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Episode Date: September 29, 2023

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. It is the last episode of the regular season. It's going to be a big weekend. Let's get it. Hot in the streets. It is. Ooh, doggie. The boys are running hot.

The last talking baseball episode of the regular season. I'm losing sleep because I'm watching left coast games. because you got to. You got to. The atmospheres are unreal. Out in Seattle, my goodness. And just a heads up to everyone, we're running hot this morning. Trev, coming live from my Denver.

I am soaking wet. Soaking wet. New York City is underwater. Like, check in on your loved ones. I had to take a subway to an Uber, to my walking feet. The city's a disaster. Ask Marlins and Mets What's going on with that?

And that might dictate some of the playoffs. Trevor, how are you? Kim Ang was ready to fight somebody last night on that field. Her and Skip Schumacher versus the grounds group might be the fight that saves the world. I'd tune in for that. I really would.

I'm doing great. Denver is a beautiful beautiful city. And I'm enjoying it so far. I've got three games to call for the twins. These really don't mean anything. So it's kind of like getting ready for the playoffs. We're going to be watching to see who the twins end up getting in the first round, whether it's Houston, whether it's the Blue Jays, whether it's the Mariners. A lot of good things happening, man.

I'm excited to talk ball with you. This is like the funnest part of the season. I mean, we don't know what's going to happen. There's a lot of tight scenarios going on. And then the playoffs come. Man, I am excited. I am running hot today. This is going to be a good up.

It's going to be a good up. It's not going to be a traditional ep. We're focusing on what matters. And it's some of the same stories, but it's actually, like, it's happening. Like the A.L. West that we've now talked about, you know, since whenever Seattle got hot, kind of. Or even, you know, going back before that,

the Rangers announcing themselves in the season. The NL Wildcard is a mess. Houston is not going to win the A.L. West, people. Think about that. Yeah. Like we had Houston winning it pretty much the entire season. Texas has come on now. They've been a streaky team and they got hot and here they are.

They're about to clinch the A.L. West, man. They're about to clinch a first round by. It's awesome. That's the more interesting thing to me. This Texas Rangers team that as a two weeks ago, I think people were like, oh, well, they've got a good chance to be the team to miss the postseason, it's now looking like they'll be the two-seat in the American League.

The N.O. Wildcard continues to be as messy as it gets, and the Northeast weather added to that. And it's just exciting, man. You're also getting some end-of-season achievements like Garrett Cole, complete game shutout that looks like it locked up the Cy Young for him. That's pretty cool. Ronald Cunia, obviously, 40-70. even Mickey Cabs with one more Apo Taco Homer. You know, Trev, you're always saying you remember your first, but you remember your last too, right? Last official was against Kika Hernandez.

Last unofficial Mark Latter Jr. spring training, Philadelphia at Dunedin. Yes, I remember everything about a two-one count. They asked me to be more aggressive than two-one count. So I did. So he did, people. Let's get aggressive on this episode. My feet are soaking wet. God, New York City.

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I think that's one of those... That seems like a bad strategy. No, when you see a video of pitchers doing like the old whirly bird wind up, I think that's kind of boxing's version of that. What were people thinking back in the day, Jake? That's my question to you. What were they thinking? I think they were thinking you had a better angle at like punching their face if you were

coming like that? I have no clue. Quickest way to somewhere's a straight line. I mean, those guys would beat me up. There's no doubt about it. Well, that's not the question. I don't know. Like, you versus a 1920s boxer whose diet was like sardines and whiskey? Like, I think you have

a pretty good chance, man. They were small too back in the day. Okay, okay. You know what? Thanks, Jake. You know what? I'd like to see the side by side, but if you're same size in them. And just a reminder, size doesn't matter and girls don't care about height. Trev, let's talk some baseball.

Again, a little unorthodox episode. I think, again, the highlight starts out for me, Seattle and Houston. In Seattle, the big bad wolf comes into town. We've talked about this a few times now. Justin Verlander, he drops eight shut piece on him that first game, because, of course, he does. That's all he does. good on Seattle and George Kirby, and we talked about that a little bit.

I mean, he's getting balls thrown at him by the fans. Every time George Kirby is pitched in a game that matters, he puts a zero on the board, climbing the ladder of, like, dudes you want pitching in a big game. And then it all comes down to game three, which truly dictates a lot of this because Houston needed this game more than Seattle, because they lose almost every tiebreaker to Seattle and Toronto. And it's a sloppy game.

Framber and Bryce Miller both get hit a little bit. Neither pitcher goes more than four innings. And the Mighty, Mighty Astros put together a rally, put a crooked number on the board. They end up winning that game, 8 to 3. So in the wild card, Houston is your last wild card team. They are a game behind Toronto. Toronto has the tiebreaker over them.

Seattle is a game behind Houston. Seattle has the tiebreaker over them. So basically what we have going on here, as Seattle plays Texas, by the way, and we'll get there. So if Seattle pulls out like a four-game sweep of Texas, which, spoiler, they did win game one last night, our guy J.P. Crawford, there's still room for a little bonus chaos,

but you'd like to think Texas is going to. going to win one and be locked. It's just a matter. Is Houston going to win out? And if they don't do that, Seattle... I don't know, Trev. I think right before we hopped on the mics, we were like Houston's still at a disadvantage.

But I don't... They control their own destiny. And like Seattle almost can't lose a game. And if that's true, and they sweep Texas, then I think they can still like win the West. I don't know. Yeah, there's a chance that Texas can...

the AOS tonight, which again is crazy to think about because, yeah, a couple of weeks ago, you know, everyone was talking about the bullpen and how they have more blown saves than saves and it was going to be a problem. It was going to be their demise. And I quickly reminded people that things can turn around in the bullpen rather quickly. Guys can get hot. You can just kind of get through their good stretches. It's the offense for me in Texas that will carry this team. They've been showing up now, like I said, on the precipice of winning the AAL West, getting that two seed in the AL, which means you get the buy. And then, yes, you got Seattle and Houston basically, you know, fighting for the last spot. You know, Toronto's there as well.

They're a game up on Houston, so there's still some action there. But reminder, guys, we've got three games left. Like, this is a crunch time here. Seattle, Houston, both been playing poorly, like leading up into the last series. but it doesn't matter. Like a walk-up win last night. Seattle was done. If they lose that game last night,

the season is over. And they almost did. And here comes, Chapman gets in trouble in the last inning. I think he loaded the bases. There's nobody out. Bochie says, enough. You can't even throw a strike.

They get two outs. And our guy, J.P. Crawford, comes up and just puts a beautiful swing on the ball to keep Seattle season alive. I mean, the games are, the games are incredible right now. So, you know, just a couple really, really big series

in the AOL going on this weekend, but it's all eyes on it. And yes, you gave the tiebreaker disclaimer. Houston does not have the tiebreaker on either Toronto or Seattle because of the head-to-head record. There's no interdivision record going on there. That's just straight up head-to-head. Trev, I want to unravel things even more

because, you know, the playoff odds sometimes we somewhat joke during the year because it's, you know, it is a computer algorithm that doesn't read necessarily what's going on with the teams or whatever. But here, with three games left, I think these statistics are pretty close. The Texas Rangers, 97.3% chance to make the playoffs. They need, I'll win, or I think they need, you know, Houston to lose, and they're basically locked in. The Astros are at 76%

And Seattle is at 33%. And Trev, I didn't do this math yet Because if you're listening to this show, you know my brain operates a little differently. Seattle has three more games left. Houston has three more games left. Seattle would need to win, you know, three of three or two of three.

and that would mean Houston has to drop one game. But if Seattle's going to win that amount of games, like they're almost coming for Texas. Like tonight's game, a Valdi versus my guy Brian Wu. Let's say Seattle wins tonight. Okay? That would have them two games back of Texas.

Yep. And depending what Houston does. Then you have Luis Kast. on the bump. And then it would be George Kirby on Sunday. Seattle, in a way, is lined up. This is where it gets a little interesting. Yeah, they have to sweep the Rangers

and then they would possibly have a chance to win the A.O. West, yes. Although, do they have the tiebreaker? No, but I think Texas has the tiebreaker over them because Texas has dominated them. So Texas can't lose the West unless it's to Houston. Yes. Okay. This is what I'm talking about, guys.

People are mad at me because they're like, what does the tiebreakers even matter if none of it? No one's tied? I'm like, you're right. But I think someone will be tied at the end of the season. And I also, you know, part of our job is to inform people on scenarios that could happen. And it's just, it's made it difficult.

It's not a big deal. We're going to get through it, though, people. Because Trev, what would be the sneaky, most brutal thing to happen if Seattle sweeps Texas, backs against the wall, their pitching's lined up, in Seattle, that place is going nuts, right? If Houston wins out, they would still win the West

and then Seattle would miss the dance, pending what Toronto does. But that's if everyone wins out. And Houston, by the way, does not have it, easy. They are facing the snakes who they have a one-game magic number. So they just need to win a game or they need one of the NL teams to lose a game. But they have Gallin and Kelly lined up these first two games. And they're going to throw them because that still lines them up for the wild card series.

So Houston is up against it in Arizona. I don't know, man. Like it feels like the AL West is going to. going to come down to one or two swings. And then another team, their season instead of playing for the World Series is going to be like, wait, we're one of the best teams in baseball and we're not going to the playoffs? We haven't even got to the NL yet. I think we'll stay on the AL just a little bit longer.

I think for Seattle, you know, if they do push Texas and Houston to the last day and they do, you know, go Castillo Kirby, Saturday. Saturday, Sunday, you have the off day, then you don't have them for the first two games of your wild card round, which, you know, might make it better for your divisional round. There's so many things. I love it, dude. I love thinking about all the scenarios and kind of what's going to happen. But essentially, we just got to watch ball this weekend.

Yeah. I mean, we don't know what's going to happen. The most likely scenario is, yeah, Texas wins a game. and their AOS champs, which to me is still crazy to think about it because Houston was up in that division for how long? Like almost all year? Am I crazy about that? It was Texas.

It felt like it was Texas the first two-thirds of the season. Then they fell apart. Seattle got crazy hot and it felt like they were there for three days. Oh, you're totally right. I'm looking right now. And then Houston got it and we all kind of shrugged and we're like, oh, with three weeks left, Houston just has it right now? Never felt like they even got hot and they were on top of the West. You're totally right. They got into first place or tied for first August 29th.

And then they've either been like one game back tied this whole month until Friday, September 22nd. So I'm totally wrong there. For some reason, I thought Houston was in charge of that division, but they have no. not been. Can I ask you, I know you talked about it on baseball today with Chris Rose. The Nairus Julio situation, I think a lot of baseball fans probably saw this. You know, in a big series, that Seattle-Huston series, that it was essentially playoff baseball. And if Seattle wins that last game instead of Houston, I think their playoff odds are flipped right now, difference between 75% and 33% math. Um, Naris punches out Julio.

Julio had a couple big at bats with runners on base. Uh, Narris gets him with a, his gross little split change pitch he throws. Um, and then he, you know, kind of runs up to him a little bit, strikeout energy, a little, uh, a couple Dominican guys. Nerris has now come out with a statement, you know, me and Julio go back to 2020, and that's when we became friends and blah, blah, blah. Um, I guess, you know, a couple days removed. now? Have any of your feelings changed? Are you kind of still in the in the same boat?

Probably in the same boat. I said from the get-go, I thought it was silly what Hector did. I mean, I get it, man. These are pressure-packed games, and you have to have the emotion, and you got to be able to, you got to be able to wield it the right way. And I think it just got away from Hector a little bit there. He was very fired up, and he started going at him. I think it was kind of like raw emotion. He wasn't planning on doing that. But, you know, you just can't do that. It is disrespectful, man. It doesn't matter how much time Hector has and how much time Julio has.

I mean, obviously, Julio is one of the faces of the game. He's got a bag, so you got to put some respect on his name. But it doesn't matter who's at the plate. You don't do that. And I think Hector releasing his statement saying that he's embarrassed and he's, you know, apologizes to Julio. I think, you know, obviously that's the right thing to do. Julio afterwards came on and said, I'll never talk to him again, which is interesting.

But, you know, time heals all wounds. I think, I think you guys will be okay. You might shake hands in the offseason or something like that. They do share an agent. And they're, they're obviously familiar with each other. So I thought the situation just kind of, it looked bad for Hector, especially because when Julio kind of like turned around, you know, classic baseball brawl, the guy starts going the other way. And it's like, you never really wanted to fight anybody. I don't really know what you were doing there. So the other aspect of it, and we'll get into it because it's part of the stories, Eugenio Suarez said that he used some derogatory language, like a homophobic slur. Hector's denied that. And our Joe's McFly has been all over trying to lip read. And

I think I've seen a couple different people now on X talking about, you know, what Hector said. and both said, you know, like, hit it, hit it, you can't hit it. Like, I win or something like that. So I'm hoping there wasn't anything like that because you never want to use that type of language, especially, you know, in front of thousands of people watching the game. It's just you don't, you just don't do that. You know, I don't condone that behavior whatsoever. And if Major League Baseball does find that he did use a derogatory slur, a homophobic slur,

he's going to get suspended. And he should get suspended. And he should get suspended. I mean, Kevin Pilar is an example of that. That happened. I think Yulea had it on his eye black, got suspended for that. Like, it's just, I don't know, Hector's denied it. I need to make sure I said it.

He's denied that he said anything like that. So we'll just kind of let the investigation play out. But it was silly, man. There was no reason to do it. You know, I'll accept the raw emotion aspect of it. But if you do something, you got to own up to it. and I think Hector did. Trev, this, you know, talking baseball's been at it three or four years now.

John Boy Media, five or six years. I've seen some of our people go on heaters. Like, you know, I've been on an internet heater. I've seen you on an internet heater. I mean, you know, the original Braves prediction. You know, I've seen BVD go on heaters. Joe's McFly, you know, three months where people are drinking in Joe's McFly. Chris Rose is in the middle of 57-game hit streak type heater.

He's calling games for his Cleveland Browns, which is literally his childhood dream. Like, that's basically one-one for Chris Rose. Tito retires, and Chris Rose, he's obviously all over that. Loves Cleveland Sports, loves Tito. He's killing it there. He's calling out the ejection on Jake Burger. online saying we can't do this in playoff baseball going viral on the narris i mean chris rose with a 5,000 liker hello um what wait what what uh tweet got that he retweets the hector

narris video and he says if you're going to go that direction hector don't stop on the front porch walk in the house and put your feet on the table. And then he's just running hot right now. And this is even before floorball where I think people, this is obviously closer to our world, but people are going to see a Chris Rose and floorball that's just like unstoppable. The guy is undefeated.

That comes out mid-October. Even late night Chris Rose, 139 a.m. I guess that's Eastern time. He says, Ryder Cup starting, at least the Mets ground crew and MLB can't screw this up. He's hot.

It's third quarter clay. Oh, boy. All his worlds are coming together right now. It's running hot. It's a perfect time of year for Chris Rose. It is. End of September is great for him. And yes, he's very opinionated. And I love that about it.

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products at Scots.com when you use code Johnboy. Trev, you mentioned your National League cluster. For those that don't know, Philly, they're good. And actually, we should probably lay this out, just closing off the AL. Right now, the one seat is done. Your Baltimore Orioles, 100-win season. I mean, awesome.

Unbelievable. All the videos of them celebrating, Gibby getting freaking doused. Oh, my goodness. Start to finish. I think they've been the best team in the American League. And I think people thought, you know, we could maybe like this Orioles team and they'd be fun

and maybe they sneak into this expanded wild card. They've been the best team in the AL all year. Birds, we're going to taste you more. Except for the undefeated April of the Tampa Bay Race. Baltimore, we're going to taste you upcoming on our Monday. Well, actually, probably not our wild card preview because you're not going to be there. And that's a good thing.

It's a good thing. Thursday or something. Yeah, we'll see you then. The Tampa Bay Rays are locked into the four seed, so they will be hosting in the playoffs, whoever falls into that five, whether it's one of the West teams or Toronto or someone else. Twins are locked into three.

Twins are locked into three, so they will be hosting. One of the West teams are Toronto as well. In the National League, my goodness. Atlanta is locked. How's your 103 with a weekend to play? they will have home field the entirety of the playoffs. I think Matt Olson just hit 54,

and Ronald Cooney Jr. just did something that's never happened on these fields. So they're ready. The Dodgers are locked in the two. The Brewers are locked in the three. So Braves Dodgers, we'll see you guys in a little under a week. Brewers will be hosting a playoff series, and so will the Philadelphia Phillies

as they are locked into that four spot. who they will be playing right now, the Arizona Diamondbacks, you know, of my two baseball teams who had the snakes in the dance this year and not the Yankees. Snakes right now are one and a half games above Miami. They would be going to Philly. Right now the last wildcarts spot is the Miami Marlins, who they're dealing with weather chaos, and we might still get like a fake 163 truck. Yes. The Cubbies are a half game out.

Losers of three in a row at the wrong, wrong time. The Reds, one and a half out with an outside chance. And boy, oh, boy, wherever the Padres land is going to seem so ridiculous because they're technically three and a half out. I think they need, with a loss for them or a win by any other team, it's over. And last night, they survived one of those rounds. So Trev, where do you want to go? I think it's the Cubs because I think they've put themselves in the worst position.

Yeah, they just haven't played good baseball at all. You know, we've seen some errors from them. You know, everyone saw the Say Suzuki era that kind of cost them the game. The following day, you know, was the Bronner de Konya Jr. Stop five-minute montage in the top of the – or bottom of the 10th, excuse me, or bottom of the 11th. it's been a rough go for them, man. And this is a team. I think that everybody's really rooting for the Cups.

I know I am. They decided not to sell at the deadline. They have a fun group of guys on that team. Obviously, we're close to Ian Hap, but other than, like, besides him, like, it's a fun group of baseball players to watch. And uncharacteristically, defensively, they would pretty poor against the Braves in that series.

I believe they made four errors and the cost them a bunch of runs. And right now, you know, they're on the outside looking in. They have the tiebreaker against nobody. So that means they have to go out and overperform and hope some other teams, you know, lose some games. But it'd be a shame, man.

It'd be a shame if they end up, you know, a tide or, you know, a game out and they're looking in because I, they went for it and they've done it kind of the right way. And I don't even know what that means, but I just really enjoy watching them. And I want to see them have a chance in the postseason. But guess what? That's just not how it works, man. Even with the expanded playoffs, somebody's going to be left out. And right now it looks like it's going to be them and it's

going to be the Reds. And, you know, Arizona and Miami as your last two wild card teams, I don't think a lot of people had that in their preseason predictions, Jake. You know who did, though? And I got this up right now. I took a screenshot. I went back into my text. went back into my text. This is before the year. I'm talking to a good buddy of mine. I won John Jay, first base coach of the Miami Marlins. And I said, what a perfect fit for you.

Hometown with the boys, how far is your place from the yard? He goes, it's amazing. And what are the chances? Skip gets the job. It's crazy. Obviously, they know each other from the Cardinals. He says, it's around 15 minutes from his house. He said, incredible, good for you.

I'm excited to try it out. We're going to surprise people this year. I can't wait. I think this coaching staff can you. Then I said, I said so much pitching a trade here and there. That's going to be a tough division though. And he says it is.

But I think our coaching staff can use that to our advantage, getting the guys to buy in. It's crazy. The majority of our staff played in the show, and we have real feel. Spot the lie in that conversation. Everything's come to fruition. I mean, Chris Rose mentioned it the other day.

we haven't talked about Skip Schumacher as a manager of the year. We haven't really talked about what they've been able to do there. And you got to mention Kim Eng in there too, making the right moves at the deadline and, you know, getting that pitching going. And really, they've been without Sandy, like kind of like being himself all year too, which is another shocking thing. But this is another crazy weekend for the last few spots in the end of Wildcar, man. I'm excited. Yes, the snakes. So, T's did a little bit before.

Their playoff percentage is 97.8. They need to win a game or any of the other teams. Lose a game. They're golden. So kudos to them. I knock on all sorts of wood, and I know snakes fans are because they are hosting Houston. But like I said, Gallen Kelly,

starting off that series. Man, those are going to be some interesting baseball games. And a little final snaps to them, man. I know you just said it. Snakes and Marlins, not a lot of people had them. I didn't. I thought this was going to be a big growth year, and we were going to be excited for next year's snakes.

And I thought when you started reading a text message, I thought it was going to be from Evan Longoria at first. Because he, you know, we almost... I probably do have one from him as well. because he said the same thing, man. He's like, these guys, there's something going on here. We almost called bullshit on him. We're like, I don't know, dude.

Seems like you kind of just want to live near your home and all that. We did call bullshit. And incredible, incredible stuff for them. Let's get snaps tory Lavello and Skip Schumacher. Are those the two teams that, like, sneaky love us the most? I do the Marlins even love us? I don't know. John Jay loves.

you. Pepe loves. Snakes love you, that's for sure. Pipe loves me. He's snakes to Marlins. So basically what's going on this weekend is, and this is crazy. You know, we had, you talk about the rain. My gosh, guys, guess what?

It's raining in New York, everybody. Everyone sends thoughts and prayers. It's raining there. But it has been raining for a while. And apparently, the ground screw of the New York Metz didn't put the tarp on in time. I don't think they were playing while the rain first started, and they just didn't put the tarp on.

So when they got the tarp on, the water underneath was there. It didn't drain very well, because apparently there's no drains in New York. So the field has become a mess, and it became unplayable after playing through some more rain. And on their last game of that series, Mets Marlins, which every single game means. a lot right now. Marlins take

the lead. I believe it was Jazz Chishol ties the game up with a double off the wall. Gurriel comes up and puts him ahead, brings Chisholm in to score the go-ahead run and then all of a sudden boom, we get freaking postponed and now the game's

suspended going to be played on Monday as the Marlins are up two to one, but it's still not a complete game yet, if necessary. So right now I believe what it is is well if Miami and Chicago

play the exact same through this weekend then they don't need to go make it up but if Miami takes let's say they take two out of three and Chicago sweeps this weekend then Miami will have to travel to New York

after playing the Pirates in Pittsburgh to play finish the top half the ninth and then get three outs. And if they do that and they win that, then they'll go into the playoffs because they hold the tiebreaker. It's nutty, bro. It's a nutty situation going on right now.

I hope that we do get that where they have to travel back to New York and get those last three outs because, like you said, Jake, it's a semblance of a 163. We're going to get a half an inning of a 163. I can't wait for that. I mean, imagine, imagine that. because I think it's currently scheduled for 1.10 p.m.

on that Monday. So, yeah, you know, Monday, fire it up for four outs up in city where the Mets, their season's very much over. I hope we don't get there because as silly as that would be. Oh, I want it. What do you mean you don't want it? It's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous.

that if you're a Marlins... Can you imagine being... I mean, they're going to have to have someone close that game out with their entire season on the line. That's what you want. That's what you want. If we do get there,

okay, so I'm starting to talk myself into it because the way you just phrase that, Trev, in theory, couldn't you throw anyone? Anybody. Like, you know. Anybody. If you think... Bullpen day, you're right.

You think Lazzardo? the best guy to get those last three outs, fire him up. Like you can, I kind of like that side of it. And, you know, I see J.T. Shagawa in that bullpen ready to go. Okay, so Marlins, they got to handle some business with Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's thrown Quinn Priester,

Andre Jackson, is Valdo Bito. So, like, no Keller. The pirates are clearly, they're moving on to next year. Let's see what that series looks. like proud team, proud city though. Never rule out Pittsburgh. The Cubbies are at Milwaukee, and now Milwaukee's clinch. So I actually have to walk back some stuff because I thought they were going to be lining up.

You know, I think if Burns starts today, I think he's lined up for the wild card, et cetera, et cetera. It says they're throwing Colin Rea, Jansen Junk, and Adrian Houser. so the clinch brewers may not be, I want to say quote unquote emptying the tank, but with how teams use bullpen and stuff and with the gap between the wild card game, like, you know, outside a Sunday's game,

you're still going to see very real Brewers pitching and you're going to get real at bats. Like these guys, you know, baseball players hate sitting and not playing, that they're going to compete. It's to what level. and that's a different level of focus, a different level of everything. Obviously you want to keep your body ready to go for the playoffs

and finish strong because your numbers still matter. In the end, you still got to make some money and how much money you make depends on your numbers. So, like, yeah, you're not going to give away a bats, but the intensity is not going to be the same between the Brewers and the Cubs. Maybe you get a guy in the brewers with a chip on his shoulder saying, like, F these kids, you know,

and like, that's ruin their dream. It seems like there's that, there's that aspect of it. Obviously, because it's inner division, you can feel that too. But there's not going to be the same level of effort, which is tough, but there's nothing you can really do about that. Once we get down to this part of the season, a team has clinched. I mean, we're talking about Atlanta is going to be hosting fake simulated games with, I guess I don't need to say fake and simulated.

Those are the same thing, I think. Yeah. With fans. Right. it's a nutty time. Hey, Sinti, I know you're playing three versus St. Louis. You're one and a half back. If you want to be some chaos, win all three,

and maybe we'll see you guys towards the finish line. They're at 7% or, excuse me, 7.9. So I'll call that 8% chance of making the dance. What's the Marlins chance? They have to be super high. Marlins are at 68.7. Wow. 68.7.

Okay. That would just, oh my gosh, imagine that. If they have to play baseball Monday at City Field, I just don't know. I mean, Mets players, did they have flights out for Monday? Like, what are the rules? Like, if the Mets season was going to end on Sunday, like, do you think there were final team meetings Monday and then you were clear to leave or it's like deuses?

No, they've been having those meetings already, bro. They've been out. They've been out. I mean, you can, it depends. It depends what you want to do. 100% you could be out on Monday. Especially if you've been out of the race, you're starting to pack up.

And that's the saddest thing, dude. The last week or so, like put stuff away and these big brown boxes to be shipped home and you're like we still got a week in the season left oh yeah it doesn't matter doesn't matter it's tough it's real tough it's real tough god a couple teams are going to be feeling it a couple teams are going to be feeling it and a couple teams are going to feel some sort of hope that they haven't felt in a long time a three game wild card to move on to a next step of the playoffs that hasn't even existed for some of these teams.

Hey, what was your preseason World Series? I don't know. Is there a way to find it? In my head... Somebody's got that. We did a social clip on it, but we also, I'm pretty sure, have some sort of... I recall you mentioned. You at least had the Braves in there.

I'd like to think I was on the Braves. I want to say you had Braves Houston. Is that true? Potentially. My most Phillies beating the Yankees, so I'm out on that one. I still like the Phillies. a lot. When the fills start to tango,

they can go with anyone. Actually, let's talk to Bryce a little bit, because that was an electric moment from yesterday. And as you guys know, talking baseball and essentially Jake Storelli is brought to you by Blue Moon. The playoff lights are coming. I am here, by the way, the home of Blue Moon.

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Yep. With just... This was a breakdown on a T for all... Yes, this was if we told AI, hey, give us a breakdown. And they go, okay. Break down from something that happened. Angel Hernandez at third.

Yes, yes. Harper's up. It's a check swing. It's perfect. Powder blues. Huh. Hmm. I think they were in the powder blues, what they?

I have to double check. I don't know. Two identical check swings. One earlier in the bat is a no swing. The second one is a swing. And Bryce Harper loses his mind. similar you know what I got to give a shout up to Bryce

because he didn't turn around like Hector did he just kept going at Angel walked all the way past the third baseman past third base and got in his face dude you know he's been thrown out more than anybody

I think since his debut I believe he has 14 career ejections if I saw that correctly on some sports center show last night I don't know if it was sports center but I saw 14 career ejections Beaver's Can you look that up? It's a lot.

That's a lot, dude. Most guys have like two or three, max. I hate Angel Hernandez. I do. Him just standing there, almost excited when Bryce is marching towards him. Like, that's what he likes. I don't think he's excited.

I don't think you're, I think people misread it. I don't think he wants that. Is he bad at his job? Yes. There's no doubt about it. but he's got job security He wants the spotlight

He's just bad at it I don't think he wants the confrontation I don't He wants it He wants it He thinks he wrung up Bryce On purpose there to get the confrontation I don't think so dude

I think he's just bad of this job It's not his fault That there's no repercussions For being bad at his job That's just the way it is I think there was a little part of him That was about it I'm defending Angel

Hernandez. How about that? Bryce is marching towards him and he takes kind of like a power stance and he's like, wait, just like ready for him to come. Like, yeah, this is awesome. I'm on TV. I think you're projecting a little bit right there. I think if you were in that position, you might, you and Bryce tussling, that's, I've got another

cold take. This is kind of off the board. Do you see you're a sports guy. Travis Hunter, the stud from Colorado, that got knocked out by the Colorado State kid and people were doing dirty, and all that. They just did a video.

He invited the kid from Colorado State. They went bowling. And part of me loves that. And part of me is like, wow. Like, sports have changed so much. What do you want them to do? No, like, in a way, it's beautiful, right? Like, in a way of us, as a society, we've evolved.

But there's also a part of old sports that used to be like, I don't know, you'd want those guys to, like, meet up and fight somewhere. And I don't know. It's like good and just new. I'm out on that. You know, what's also changed in the modern era is the internet. This guy was getting death threats and all sorts of stuff. So I think, you know, Travis Hunter did a really nice thing, basically putting his arm around the guy and saying like, hey, guys.

Like, if we're good, then that means you guys should be good. Collective internet who is all over him. So I liked it. I think it's the right thing to do. Pop Culture Show. the internet is crazy dude people doesn't matter what

opinion gets posted if I get put on talking baseball social or you know baseball today or whatever someone's always going to be mad at me no matter what dude no matter what and I suck and this and that and it's like

all right guys like they almost people almost I'm going off on a tangent I'm sorry people almost like they don't think of like you and I and Beaver's here we're just like on the screen whatever we're not real people no and that's not for everybody I'm not saying

everybody treats us like that but for honestly a lot of people we're just those guys on the internet and they can say whatever they want to us at any given moment and just kind of like get it off their chest so that's how I like compartmentalize it if I'm getting just roasted on the internet,

I'm like, well, they're not really roasting me the person. They're roasting like that guy that's on their screen who like is saying something that they don't like. Because nobody would ever talk to somebody like that face to face. It just doesn't happen. That's just not how society works.

Right. So that's how I try to deal with it. But sometimes it's hard to do that, man. Weird world. Weird world. Trevor, What else do you got, man? I mean, we can tell you some standouts.

We could do some Fuego. We could give an award. Or what else? I guess baseball-wise, pure baseball. I think there's a few things, yeah, we need to get through. Tito, I think, deserves a mention on this show. He had his last game in Cleveland. His last managerial stint is this weekend.

He's going to be done after this. I don't know. I played against Tito a lot. you know, Red Sox into Cleveland. And one thing that I always noticed about him was just how even killed he was. And really how happy he was on a day and a day on a basis. It's not like he's going around like chipper like smiling and being like really outwardly, you know, happy.

But whenever you talk to him, he was in a good mood. And he just loved the game of baseball. And he was such a good people person, even to guys on the opposing teams. Like, you know, you talked to him at batting practice. And he'd send you a compliment, dude. And you just don't get that from everyone. He was really aware of that. And I think he became aware of kind of like the influence that he would have

or the importance that his words carried because he's become, you know, he's a Hall of Fame manager. He's become like a figure in baseball that's almost, you know, he's beloved. and everybody respects him. And I think he realized that and kind of began to give out just more and more respect and praise to, you know, people he came across because he knew it meant something. And honestly, that to me says a lot about his character. He's just a good dude who loves baseball and loves to fire people up. Like he's so, he's such a good motivator, dude.

I'm going to miss him. I'm going to miss seeing him out on the field for sure, because he's one of the good guys. Yeah, I mean, you, you know, I'm sure we have a lot of young listeners. We do a lot of YouTube and podcast stuff that, you know, there's still, I made some jokes before the episode. I hopped in an Uber today, talk some sports with a guy, and he's a guy that's not going to seek out YouTube and podcast. You have to understand, 2004, I am a, I'm a, I'm a. young Yankees fan. I am 13, 14 years old. I fight with my buddies at the lunch table. Yankees Red Sox every day. They get this manager, Terry Tito Francona. I'm like, I don't know.

Who, you know, screw you guys, screw the Red Sox. 04 championship, 07 championship. And any time you got a press conference, like, I never had an ounce of hate for Terry Francona. I, you know, I, you know, Even Pedy Padroia, like, you know, a short king, a guy that I should have pictures on my wall if he was on any other team. There was times I hated Padroa. Like, are you kidding me? This fucking guy?

Tito, for whatever reason. He, like, embodies baseball, man. It's like, it's fun loving. It's competitive. And even seeing that crowd go nuts and, like, you know, Jose Ramirez, this 5-8 all-world player from the DR and how much he loves this guy. Even in that one screenshot, it was like Jose Ramirez, it's, it's, it's people from all over the world because that's what this game is.

And Tito's just like, I mean, one of, like, beloved baseball figures is all time. Yeah. Altuva Venezuelan. Just want to make sure we do some house cleaning right there. Okay. Not talking about altouvae, so that's the good news. Didn't you say Altuva? Jose Ramirez, 5-8.

You said Jose Ramirez. Yep, because he's on Tito Francona's team. Good, good call. That's a little brain laps there. Let's go through all the short athletes. Jose's that are five-year-old. And you know what, Trev, I think there's two other players I want to taste real quick, and maybe it's a form of awards.

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That's where I was last night Oh boy Trev the two players that jump to mind One I've heard you talk about As well as anybody about And you know I don't compliment you Unless I have to Miguel Cabrera

He gives us maybe one more opposite field Home Run swing And people were also saying Like wow it might be a fun Hall of Fame In five years It might be Miggy Cabs and Tito Hey can we take the five years off for managers.

Like, Tito's. I don't know if we need to... What's five years mean? What is that? What is that? It's a great point. Oh, yeah. Miguel Cabrero, we're going to wait. Let's wait five.

Let's wait five. And I do think, and Braves fans wanted to hear us a little more. And hey, Braves fans get rowdy because we're about to talk about them a lot in October. Ronald Cunia, I mean, it just deserves to be said more. There's a lot of Internet hubbub. about it and, you know, well, 70 this year, is that really? Doesn't fucking matter. Who says that?

I hate that person if you're saying that. 40, 70. So, I mean, I wanted to tee you up because, hey, I've heard you talk about Miguel Cabrero so beautifully before. So this is our little Venezuelan finale for Miggie Cabs and what Ronald Cunia Jr. is done this here. I don't know what else there's a say about Miggie Cabs that I haven't already said on this show. Another guy that was open and willing to help other players around the league, even guys that were on his team. Let's start just on his team. If you played with Micky Cabs, you know, from 2010 to 2017-18 with the Tigers, like you became an unbelievable hitter under his tutelage.

I mean, just think about the guys that he's worked with and who he's helped change their careers. You know, Nick Castellanos, one of them right there, who's turned into, you know, one of the better hitters in the league because, well, he was around Mickey Cabs. What about J.D. Martinez? Around Mickey Cabs, learning from him, you know, him and, it's just, you'd get around the cage and he would talk to you about hitting the greatest,

one of the greatest right-handed hitters we've ever seen in this game. would sit around and just talk hitting with the opposing team. Obviously with guys on the team sitting in the cage with them doing it. But to be able to do that with the opposing team as well, I thought was nuts. And I've mentioned it before and I'll say it again because I think it is crazy that this, it just doesn't happen.

There's a couple guys. Mickey Cabs and Shohei Otani are the only guys that I know. Maybe a little John Carlos Stanton here and there. where guys would make it a point to go out and watch him hit batting practice. Now, Shohei doesn't hit batting practice a lot, so when he does, I understand that you'd want to go watch him do it. McGee Capps hit batting practice every single day on the field, and you would make it a point to get your ass out there and watch it.

And it wasn't just the young guys, it was everybody. We'll just go watch him hit BP. That's how impressive it was. You know, you would learn so much just by watching what he did. He wasn't trying to hit home runs all over the place. He was spraying balls. And then in the last round, he would just go right field, right center, center field, left center. He would do around the world with homers.

And he wouldn't even have to have like an extra swing. It was just so impressed at the back control, the power, the consistency of his swing, the adjustments he would make when he needed to, when his body was feeling off. You know, if you watched him hit, he'd have a leg kick. Then he wouldn't have a leg kick. He'd just go up on his toe like Albert Poo holes did. Everything was calculated. It was perfect. When you watched his swing, it was the swing you were trying to get.

The emotions you were trying to make. McGee just did him naturally and he worked at it. Like it's shout out, Mickey, dude. I don't know. There's nothing more I can say. The guy was class act and watching him was a fucking privilege, man. Yeah, as someone who, you know, someone who, Whether it was fantasy baseball or now looking at baseball reference

and now getting to talk about baseball. I always... And now that I'm getting older and I actually am starting to feel what it's like to have a 34-year-old body in a couple weeks, wink, wink. Miguel Cabrera for 13 seasons, which I want to hit on that quick. Because, Trev, every time a player hits 10 years, that's a massive. of accomplishment. That's something Jimmy always brings up, since we've gotten closer to the game,

we realize how much that means to guys. Like, there's so few that makes it to that 10-year mark. I was happy the other day. Dallas Keiko, coming out of the- Saw him last night. Coming out of the Twins pen, fighting for the end of his career. A guy that's won Cy Young's, multiple gold gloves, all-star games, he just hit that 10-year mark that, like, wow, dude.

You know, that guy's an elite, elite ball player. and he just hit 10 years. So, moving from that, Miguel Cabrera for 13 years, averaged 155 games a season. He hit 323, 402, a 566 slugging for a 968 OPS. For 13 years.

That's what he rolled out and did. So there's some of you who, you know, I'll be honest, since 2017, he hasn't really been the same cat because Father Time catches up with literally everyone. So if you have that Miguel Cabrera in your head, know that there's a Miguel Cabrera. Is there anyone that's doing 323?

You want the triple crown, bro. Back-to-back MVP's like, I don't even, I was going to give a comparison, like who's putting up the 323-402-566 slugging? Maybe like a cuneo without the speed? like that's kind of what he did for 13 years. I'm looking at his stat page now, and I have one question. Sure.

First of all, we're on Miguel Cabrera OPS 900 watch because he's currently right now at 900 on the dot for his career. Do you just sit him out the last three games? We don't want to see that thing getting the eights. You're not an eight guy. You need the nerds to crunch the numbers there. Yeah, let's let's fudge some stuff. How far can we push that? another thing I saw that was interesting

I've never seen this maybe I haven't looked hard enough 2003's rookie year he plays 87 games he gets MVP 27 okay yeah that's one of those riders

I love it because that means he got MVP votes from 2003 all the way through 2016 every single year he got an MVP vote which dude if I got one MVP vote

MVP vote, I would jump for freaking joy, even if it was MVP 27. That's really incredible. And I'm looking at that right now. I wonder how many players have gotten MVP votes in 13 or more seasons in a row. I'm sure there are some, but not many. If we're Cleveland, let's, you know, don't be shy to throw a couple fastballs down Maine. Just one, just one more. Homer and then just he's golden.

Man. And yeah, I guess anything else to add about Ronnie? I know it sounds ridiculous to say we're adding about it, but 4070. 4070's nuts. He just knew, like, I mean, in the game when he did it, and I guess I don't know. Have we talked about that whole scenario on, I keep saying that fucking word. I feel like every episode, there's a word I say too many times. and today it's that word.

Have we talked about, like, the montage during the game on this show yet? Or did we miss that? I don't think so. In that game, I mean, I guess it's in any game. You just know he's going to steal. Everybody in the whole park knows he's going to steal, and he just goes and swipes it back. It's like so easy for him.

What do you think about the montage and all that? What's your stance? I gave mine. I don't know. I don't have, like, a hard take on it. Like, you're watching baseball history, so, like, that deserves to be enjoyed, but also if you're the opposing broadcast, like, I don't know, it shouldn't be hype about it. Maybe you should be.

It was playing the entire time, unfortunate timing for it to happen. Yeah. And I totally understand the Cubs side of it, but I do lean Braves. And I'm like, you know, it's not the bravest fault that you're in a do-or-die situation right now. Or maybe it is. Maybe it is. Maybe it is. All right, T. Payne.

I mean, we're here, baby. We are here. We're actually here. Some games. Who gets left out in the AO and then we're done? Who gets left out in the American League? If I had to bet today, and I hate to say this, but I would bet Seattle.

Is it snakes and marlins in New York? the NL? Are you leaving things as is right now? I think I am. I think I'm leaving it. Yeah. I would kind of love to see Houston jump Toronto. Toronto, I guess if I had to pick an area of chaos, I'd say Toronto and Houston.

I don't know whether the rays put Toronto in the torture chamber, because I've seen them do that in games that do not matter to them. They did it to the Yankees. they're still going to raise like they're still going to they're still going to pitch a ton they're going to do their thing they're still going to play their matchups like the raise

can raise you um in Houston i don't know in this bizarre Houston year where it's never felt fully game on like gallon and kelly could punch them in the mouth like i wouldn't be surprised at all but actually wrapping my random

around what seattle has to do to Texas while need that extra help. Do you think J.P. Crawford sparked it, though, last night? Like, that is the type of situation that happens, and then they just go on this run and they sweep the whole thing. Holy, they're two and eight. And then they're red hot into the playoffs.

I want Seattle to know I'm rooting for them, because tonight's game is massive. Brian Wu versus Avaldi. If you take down Nate and the Rangers tonight, you have Castillo and Kirby lined up. Let's go. Ladies and germs. enjoy the weekend.

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