Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Who Will Land The Biggest Trade Deadline Targets? | 517

Episode Date: July 27, 2022

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Hello and welcome to talking baseball. The trade deadline is looming and it's all I can think about. It's all I want to talk about. So that's what we're doing. Let's do it. Welcome to talking baseball. Presented to you by Seatgee. My name is Jimmy.

That's Jake. That's Trevor. We're all wearing hats today. BPD is in the corner. Hatless. A white hats too. Did someone sneeze? in the middle of the song?

I know what you heard. Oh, was that my bat speed maybe? Yeah. Oh, maybe. Maybe it was your bat speed. Maybe. We had some topics lined up to talk about, and then we said,

let's just do trade deadline talk, because it's all I want to talk about. So Jake, looking good in your visor and your shirt. I have compared you to Paul Rudd in forgetting Sarah Marshall, and I still like that. And then I said you look like John Gruden in the coach's picture that they do during the Hawaiian Pro Bowl,

and I still like that comp. So how are you? Gruden's still canceled, so we're keeping Paul Rudd. All-time movie scene. Do less. Okay, now you're doing nothing. Yeah, you know, we were like, all right, what should we yuck about? There's stuff going on, and then we said, screw it.

Literally, we're all thinking about the deadline. We got some big fish on the pond and excited to see, what goes on, man. All of our teams are daydreaming. Trevor Plouf has sources that know where every player that's getting traded is going. So we'll reveal that towards the end of the episode.

For now, Trevor, my good man, how are you? Speaking of good, man, I gave all my sources of Jeff Passing. Yeah. When we became best friends at the draft. So just know that all of his tips came from my sources. I'm doing great. You guys know I had

an excellent morning. And I try to get this to be a labor pot. I think we'll sprinkle a little bit of labor pod before we get into the trade discussion. I know that's hot in the streets. We got one week left, less than a week. And that's it. Your roster is your roster. So a lot of good names out there. But most importantly, I need to ask one question. James O'Brien, how are you, bro? I'm good, man. We are as always crunching a ton of recording on Monday and Tuesday. Those are our, we front load our weeks.

We have a fun back of the week. We're doing some fun stuff at the warehouse. And speaking of that, today's show is brought to you by the warehouse games. The floor ball tournament has launched. Floorball is floor hockey, but it's like a legit sport. Some people thought we were just calling it floorball.

No, it's like a Swedish, Norwegian Finnish. Nordic. It's a Nordic sport. It's actually really fun. And everybody. Get cultured people. On this podcast was in the tournament. Jake and I were on Team Baggage.

We played game one. That is already out. Trev, Forgotten Rotten. They Forgotten Run won the Blitzball championship. Now they're trying to win the floor ball. He has backup quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, Ben Danucci on his team and Nikki Cass. And BBD joined.

Quarterback on the Cowboys. Let's see how it plays out with him and Dad. and everyone else in camp. I was going to say, if I'm a GM, I'm going after Big Ben and letting him do his thing. Yeah. Yeah. BPD joined We Got Ice.

They were in the first Blitzball Battle. Treb's game is coming up on Thursday. Tomorrow night as you're watching this video is Treves game. Tomorrow night. Yeah. Thursday night is Trebs game. And then is yours Monday? We got Ice's first game. On Monday.

So go check it out. It's whatever. You think of We Got Ice. You think of me. It is the biggest production. we've ever put on at John Boy Media, an incredible performance by like the whole crew to put it on. It's incredible what we did. So go check it out if that interests you at all.

Let's get into the trades. Trev, start off with the Labor Pod point that you want to make because I do think it will play a role for some players in this deadline. Like I said, we're going to sprinkle this. We're not going to go in depth. If you remember, when we signed the CBA, okay? This pod brought you through all the labor negotiations. We signed the CBA, but there's a caveat. It says, hey, we're going to get rid of the qualifying offer,

but only, only if we can come to a resolution on the international draft by July 26th. Well, that day is coming on. They did not agree to terms on the international draft because they were never going to agree to terms on the international draft. It's too polarizing. There's too many moving parts. This whole thing was a sham to get this document signed. We all know that. Okay?

How does that affect the trade deadline? There's no waiver period. I keep saying that. People remember this. There is no waiver period. So the deadline is the deadline. Now, there are some guys who would be considered rentals because of their contract situation.

There'd be free agents at the end of the year, whether they're strict free agents or they can just opt out. typically you'd say well you better go get something for those guys but we've seen now now that the qualifying offer is back i don't think i said that the qualifying offer is back for this year's free agent class now teams can say well i really like this guy we're not going to sign him back but if we trade in the fan base is going to get pissed off tray mancini is one of these guys zander bogarts is one of those guys if you remember they did this in colorado with trevor story now instead of trading them and getting back a flyer low-a high-a pitcher you can say you know what

let's offer him the qualifying offer when he turns it down we'll receive some draft pick compensation so we're going to see some of these teams who say you know what it's kind of great for us we can get a draft pick we'll pick the guy that we want uh and our fan base won't be pissed at us so we'll get something without giving anything up and i think that's gonna it might affect a few guys i mentioned a couple of them um trying to look at the list now Those are about it. Can I tell you the name, the team that jumped to my head? Fred sucks.

I love that dirty water, Trev. Because J.D. Martinez and Zander Bogatz. Yes. Now, J.D. Martinez, who's still a fantastic hitter, but D.H. only, the qualifying offer can now be used on him at the end of the year where Boston would pick up, you know, an early round draft pick. So if you're offering for J.D. Martinez, and we still don't know if Boston is truly going to sell, I think this next week of games is going to decide that you need, Boston

Red Sox would need to guarantee they get a prospect or two prospects better than that draft pick. Xander Bogart's that I think was going to be tough for their heartstrings to get rid of anyways. Yeah. Now that's multiplied. So that's the biggest one for me. Like Zander, there was, oh, maybe, because he's going to sign opt out. But now with the, with the, well, qualifying offer attached, like for me is zero chance.

Because it, it helps them out with the fans. It helps them out with Zander. It helps them out everywhere. Get out of like, you know, getting prospects. There's still a chance he gets traded. And Zander, and if you're a player, you want to get traded. But he's not accepting the qualifying.

Yeah, he's not accepting the qualifying offer. So you're going to get a prospect, a draft pick in return for him, even if you don't trade him. So you can get maybe the same value back or, you know, depending on how you draft without pissing off your fan bases. I think that really changes a lot of the rentals on teams like that for me. Even like Martin Perez, he may not want to return. turn to the Rangers, but they're going to offer them at least the qualifying, at least. So that's a very easy way out for some teams that don't want to part with guys,

even though it's, it's smarter to get prospects in return. It's leverage for the teams that have the players, basically. So like if you can now say, well, you got to kind of blow me away to get Zander. And if you do, maybe I'll let him go. It's great for Zander because now there's no qualifying offer attached to Zander, because you have to be with a team the entire year before your free agency year to have the qualifying offer put on to. So Zander's like, please. If you're going to try, if we're not going to go for

this thing and we think we're done, trade me then because then I don't have that attached to my name. I don't think it'll affect him necessarily anyway because he's going to be a top tier free agent. So usually those guys are not affected by it. But we've seen it like, you know, I'm trying to think guys. I mean, like Moose. Moose's first year comes out and gets one year six, I believe, because of the qualifying offer. So it does affect guys. And, you know, depending on, you know, which lens you're looking through right now, this is either a great deal for you or a really bad deal for you. But I definitely wanted to mention that before we got into names and destinations and all the fun stuff, Jakey boy.

Yeah, you never fully know with the qualifying offer where the final tier is going to drop. I mean, remember Michael Conforto's free agency, which got weird on a lot of levels because of the shoulder thing. Still weird. Yes, still currently active and weird. Is he going to sign? So, yeah, interested to see the number one team that jumped to my head. I love the Martine Perez example.

Like Texas is already ready to extend this guy. You can have them back in your rotation with Jack Lider next year for 18 mil, which for one year of a good starting pitcher, 18 mil, is a deal. Yeah, he's a great example. And I think the Boston Red Sox, which I, holy smokes, I know how bad it looked. And if it continues to look bad, they won last night against the Guardians. If they continue to bottom out and they win five out of six this week, I think Red Sox fans are smart enough baseball fan base

that they will understand why their team is selling. If they don't, if they win four out of six and they're a couple games above 500 and two games out of the wild card, it's not worth it to get rid of someone, Bogart's who's been a heart of the franchise and even JD who's who's been there for a while now and man talk about a weird jd martina's in the red sox the red sox fans want him to opt out and then he didn't and now is he going to get sucked into a qualifying offer and talk about a guy who might be in a weird free agency a dh only pretty much at this point of his career are you going to offer him the long contract to

lose a pick when we know teams like to use dh as like a flexible position has he not got a qualifying offer yet? I just looked into it. I don't think so because he... No, I think he signed an extension. He opted into the final year of his contract because if he opted out, he would have got the qualifying offer last year. But do they want to offer him a qualifying offer? Would he accept it? It depends how the rest of his year goes. He's still hitting, man? That guy is... Yeah, I think they offer it to him. You know, this one team now that I'm really looking at this list, who got bailed out by this, and I think most teams were expecting this to not happen basically.

The Giants and Carlos Rodon. He hasn't opted out at the end of this year. What are they going to do? Do they just let the dude walk and get absolutely nothing for him? Now, if he opts out, hey. Yeah. Slap you with the qualifying offer. Thanks for coming.

We'll get the draft pick. Right, because he didn't get it. What a weird, a weird little thing in this beautiful sport. Labor pod. It's a labor pod. Can we? So that's it. Can Trevor finally take?

Tell us every trade that's going to happen? Yeah, Trev, you're going to tell us every trade? I'm ready. I think it's going to be less than everyone thinks. Ooh, and if you're having problems with less than your loved one may expect in the bedroom, you should look into Roman swipes. Not Trev, he's got a fucking hammer that won't stop. But if you don't have that, if you're premature, Jack.

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You should be able to answer stupid questions. Is that what he said? Yeah, something like that. Okay. So let's start from the top. How about that? Let's start from the bottom. On Soto. Okay. Odts he gets... Did you do the Yankees go after him as, like, say, sorry, Judge, you're 30 years old. you're not signing back with us or it doesn't seem like you're going to hold us hostage

we're going to go at one. So there's 23 years old and take your spot. I don't think Judge has anything to do with Soto's situation at all. It's not like a Matt Olson Freddie Freeman situation. Nope.

It's like we'll make the first move. I disagree a little bit. No, because Soto, you're just getting him for this year and then two more years. And then the Yankees have... Olson was the same thing. They just went into an extension though.

Yeah. I mean, I think they won't. want to extend judge, they're able to do all of that. They have so much money coming off the books. Okay. You think both of them could be there? Yes. They can.

I do think Juan Soto would be incredible judge insurance if Uncle Stevie throws the bag at judge. I think the best insurance policy ever made would be Juan Soto. Yes. And there's so much money coming off the books for the Yankees and every team. I did this for every team that to get Soto, even if, even if you're, like, well, we're not going to be able to extend him. Who gives this shit?

You get three years of Soto on your team, 23, 24, 25 to do a playoff run. That's not going to hinder what you offer for those two and a half seasons. There's only, there's only, there's only so many teams that four years from now have so much money on the books. Yeah. That would limit you from that. Yeah. So the Yankees, by the time Soda's freedom, they have no one on the books. It's Cole, Stan, and then it would be judge.

and like DJs at the end of his contract. They have Donaldson coming off. They have Chapman coming off. They have Britain coming off. They have so much coming off that like Soto in the next two years, even when his ARB gets to 33 million, they can afford it. So I don't think Judge Effect Soto. If your question is, do I think the Yankees go after him?

Yes. I think they are, and this is also super biased, super hopeful. But it makes sense. And I'm not usually biased and hopeful when it comes to Yankees going after you guys. I'm usually very jaded. a slight, it doesn't make sense. I don't think the Yankees will do it. I really do think that they are offering Dominguez

and some of the other top prospects and are trying to compete. If he doesn't go to the Yankees, I think it's because the Nationals value the other prospect packages from whatever other team gets them more than the Yankees. And my only other sprinkle before passing you, Trev, because you're our Yankee guy. I do think the Yankees, they have some holes right now.

They're starting pitching, starting to get worn a little thin. Bullpen has gotten a lot thinner, especially with the Mike King loss. If you add Juan Soto, that sixth inning gets a little easier. You know, you're kind of, you're solving a lot of problems because you're adding one of the best players in baseball. I still, I have no idea how it ends. I know you and I talked about it on Wake and Jake a little bit today. I think someone goes for it.

If you're a GM to have the Juan Soto feather in your cap, are you kidding me? I just, I agree with you on that. Like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for a general manager, a 23 year old established superstar like Juan Soto is available. That's with, with two and a half years of control. And that's, that does not happen ever.

So these guys are definitely taking that into consideration. But like we talked about this morning. It's not even certain that Rizzo's going to pull the trade off here. He might wait till the off season. If he's not floored by a package here, just wait to the off season. People are still going to want Juan Soto, still two postseason races.

Like, I hope he gets moved because it's going to change everything and the whole landscape of baseball changes when Juan Soto moves franchise. I hope it happens sooner than later. I just think it's difficult for teams. To me, that is a completely different thing than what the trade deadline is actually about

bolstering your roster for this year and trying to go for a world. serious that to me that's what the trade deadline means like yeah control pieces are nice but really like you're trying to improve your team for this year if you're going for the trade deadline one soda is in a completely different category but you're drawing your capital from the same place yeah so it's like you can't you can't just say okay here's my guys for soto and here's the rest that i have the play with that's not the case like you have to unless your plan is completely to go after second tier trade guys and you can you can offer those B prospects and just go that way

keep all your A's, your best chips for Juan Soto. Teams might try that. But then you lose out on Wonsoto and you didn't improve your roster the way you wanted to. It's a very tricky situation right now. Yeah, I think teams are, we talk about this on talking baseball or is it another show? Just Jake brought it up. Teams are going to say, teams will have to say, hey, Nationals, here's my package. But this doesn't last until August 2nd.

Yeah, deadline. It has to. And then if you're the nationals, do you want to get put under that deadline? Because the Yankees can't say, this is our four guys. And then the nationals, we're thinking, we're thinking, we're thinking, we're thinking. And as they're thinking, Ben Intendi's out, Luis Castillo's out, Ian Haps out, all these guys are, all these guys are out. And then the nationals come back and say,

oh, never mind, we're not going to trade them. That's what I'm saying, dude. But we have seen your other point about like the deadline used to just be about rentals. We have seen teams use the trade deadline as free agency of late. The Reds did it with Trevor Bauer. They weren't even in, like they got to the playoffs, but they weren't a lock and they got Trevor Bauer for two years. The Mets did it with Stroman.

They got him for the next year. And this might pivot us a little, but I do think the Dodgers are going to attempt to do that with Castillo because they have pitchers coming off the books. Anderson's off. He's out. He and he's out. They've been using him.

and they would get Luis Castillo for this year and next instead of getting another free agent next year. So we have seen teams use free agency or use the trade deadline more like free agency than for this calendar year lately. Addressing multiple years with their moves. Yeah. At the deadline.

I think my favorite guy, besides Juan Soto, I think my favorite name at this deadline, is Wilson contraris. He's, you know, we reference how weird the catching position is all the time here. He's an elite hitter at that position. And when you're looking at your overall roster and you say, where can we add the most? Typically, it's probably going to be offense from my catcher. And Wilson can offer that.

And then you have the other caveat of, well, I value defense higher than I value offense from my catching position. So do I stick with my guy or bring Wilson? into kind of rotate in and out of the catching position, maybe go to DH. Can they try him at other positions? I think he has played, like, from his base a little bit.

Got some left field endings in him, I think. Yeah, left field, too. I need to look at where he's played this year, but I'm pretty sure I've seen him at first base a few games. Give me. Wilson Contreras to the Mets makes too much sense. It's made too much sense from the start. If he plays catcher for them,

they're also looking for a DH. They just brought in Voguey from the left side. Like Wilson Contreras was rumored there before the year. Just getting fun with it. The Mariners are not played first base this year. Mariners or the Padres are kind of the fun ones for me. Padres have needed bats all year. Wilson Contreras, I feel like he would have fun there.

Machado, Tatis, catch, DH, you figure that out. And then our Mariners, your Mariners, Trev, who are dead. That lineup on paper is pretty badass. I don't want to send shots fired at Cal Raleigh. Don't. But he's a little bit the outlier right now. I mean, fellas, look at the Fangraphs Mariners roster,

and if you put Willie Contreras at catcher, you got a name at every position. J. Rod, Thai, France, Jesse Winker, Carlos Santana, Eugenio Suarez, J.P. Crawford, Kyle Lewis, and that Adam Fraser trade we can't get out of our head. Never mind Mitch Hanager who's coming back. I'm starting to drink that Kool-Aid.

Kool-Aid drinking fool. And Wilson's not a defensive liability. I don't think. He's got a canon. I don't know how his pitch framing rates out. Bebers, maybe we can check that out for me. But I'm looking at his baseball reference page and his defensive war is right at zero. Offense, three.

Let's go. I've heard the complaints have been around his pitch calling, which between the button system we have now, and if he's open to joining a new team and understanding that he's going to need help learning these pitchers, I think we can figure that out. Is Savant bubble for framing his 32nd percentile, which is not a problem,

if anyone is, if people are, I don't know, I'm not a Cubs fan, so Cubs fans, I'm asking you. Sound off. Complaints about pitch calling has to come from a pitcher and no one else. Because you have no idea who's calling the pitches. Like, A.J. Burnett did not like the way Horat decided called a game.

We know that because A.J. Burnett let people know that. Otherwise, we'd have no idea. You'd shake him off. Garrett Cole shakes off every pitch and just tells us the catcher what he wants to call. People are like, Higgie calls such a good game behind Cole. I'm like, did you watch the game? shook off until every single time Higgie just puts down seven things and Cole calls his own game. Sometimes catchers are getting it from the dugout.

So that is a complaint that fans can't make because we don't know. But if a pitcher requests another guy or comes or is like visibly like, why did we throw that? Like that's what AJ Renette did. Then you can then you can say that. But I hate that getting pinned on catchers. Sure. I like that. I like that argument.

That's a good one. I actually saw a video of a Cubs pitcher warming up without a hat and was going viral a little bit. And I was looking and the pitching coach was like messing with his hat, like putting some shit in his head. I was like, oh my God. They're cheating. They're cheating.

And then I was like, oh, no, that's a fucking microphone in this hat, dude. Yeah. Wilson's just like back there like, not even looking at the numbers he's pressing. Can we talk about our colleague? Yes. Is he getting three? Because Jeff Passon, my friend, Trev's new friend, they hatched it out.

I'll give everyone the brief summary. They saw each other at the draft, two alpha males, two stags eyeing each other up and down. Jeff Passon lumps Trevor in with us as just a bunch of ball bag YouTubers. Yeah. But then he saw Trev getting love from the ex players, and it kind of clicked and passed and said like, oh, you're a dude. So there are buddies now. He's been on that Happer's going to go

because he's the year and a half. He's probably making 10 mil next year. Cubs figuring out whatever the hell they're going to do. All-Star year. The career stats for HAP are awesome, 800 OPS guy. Padres or Yanks, right? Let's name a team we don't want him to go to. Ooh.

The Red Sox. They already took Story, a fan of the program. Yeah. And a guy I like, can't have that happen. Because I don't want to be posting error montages and haps in there. Right. Well, his defense has been better this year, thanks to a few people. Yeah.

And then the rest of the ALE East, besides the Yankees. Okay. That's where I don't want him to go. Oh, yeah. If he was on Toronto, that would suck. It would suck. Okay. Or the race, but that's not even a possibility.

You know what? If the Orioles got him, I'd be weirded out. How about not the White Sox? You don't want them to go there? No. They would corrupt his innocent, beautiful soul. I think so. I think Ian Hap would turn into like street fight Ian Hap.

Oh, are we going Ian Hath and David Robertson? Okay. To the White Sox. Maybe throw Michael Givens in there as well. Just poaching the north side. Ross Town. Bringing them down. And then this is the Braves move for the White Sox.

they end up going back to the World Series. I look like a genius. James, you're wearing the Milwaukee Brewers hat. What about there? Ooh. Love it. Ooh. That would be interesting because we have a lot of investors and friends on the Brewers.

I could get into that. The Midwest loves the NAP. Yeah. And he fully understands why. Shows up to dinner, brings a loaf of bread, firm handshakes, good eye contact. He, yes. Can I tell you something about,

Ian Hap, that I've noticed. He's a gentleman. Yeah. A nice dude, he's always, like, dressed nice. He looks presentable. If he tells you he's going to get to a bottle of wine, he comes through. Brings that wine, dear. Yeah.

Hand delivered. I owe him a bottle of wine. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt. No doubt. No denying that. On record. I got to get that.

I got so much good wine in my house right now. I can just fucking, it would be taking a second. Come on. That's so much good. I like dragging it out. I like dragging it out. Yeah. But deep down,

Happer is a dog. Yeah. He's ruthless. He is. Pittsburgh. I think he fits in on the south side, dude. Oh.

I like that. I'm not going to say villain Ian Hap, but I'm saying villain Ian Habb. Dave Robertson, obviously he's pitched there before. it's the spark that my white socks might need. Maybe Ian Happ will go over and kick Tony the Roos on the shins and say, wake up, bro.

Glad to be on your team, Skip. I don't know if that's the gentleman in him. It's whacked of the shins. No, it's villain Ian Hap. That's what I'm saying. Oh, you're going to be villainy. I get it. I get it.

I get it. These guys could go anywhere. We're talking about this stuff and I love dreaming and trying to pick him out. But, dude, you know my team has want Ian Hap on their roster? All of them. Except the Cubs. Yeah. Another, I've heard a lot of Padres.

I would love if my Yanks punched that through for multiple reasons. Every player, it's Padres, Mets, Dodgers, Yankees, Mariners. Treb, let's be the bad guy. Who's not getting traded? Trade Mancini. Yeah. I think we all agree on that. I agree with that, too.

I agree with that. You can't. You can't. We can't. We're having fun in Baltimore. And honestly, if I am the Rangers and I have Martine Perez, I don't trade him either now. Yeah, the qualifying offer does change that a little bit.

Because you're happy if he takes it or happy if he doesn't. Or did his price just go up and teams are going to actually pay that now? Because I know not to be shots fired at Martin Perez, he's playing a little over his skis this year, that old baseball term. Jake, don't be a jerk. 19 starts a 259? Like I, if he's got more of that in the tank, that's a guy you pay for.

I'm doing research right now. Castillo's getting traded, right? The only caveat there is the Reds. The Reds operate just a little bit differently. It would be bizarre if they didn't it. Because, God, put that guy in the spotlight, man. Stud. Love to know what Treves is searching.

Oh, I just found. I was looking for, stat I wanted. It was the way I wanted it to be. Michael Givens. He used to pitch with the Orioles. Do you know who he dominates? Your best player, Aaron Judge. One for 1410Ks. He has to go to an AAL team.

He has to go presumably to the Blue Jays. Michael Gibbons to Toronto. Like, right? That's kind of how you have to look at shit like this. If you're a general manager, we have a guy that we really need to get out, like a lot of different times, and here's a guy that can get him out. It'd be pretty... Which has one homer against him.

I'm not saying this. It'd be pretty pimp if Houston got him. Exactly. I forgot about Houston. Just to throw their hog on the table. And they might be because they're looking for bullpen help anyway. And like, this could be the guy. Michael Gibbons, huh?

Michael Givens to Houston. To Houston. He's going to Hachtown Funky Town where the Purple Sprite Or Toronto Where Drake lives now Moved out of Hidden Hills That's awesome

Okay It's huge for him It's huge forgivins 10Ks dude And 14 at bats Who are we missing I know that's a tough question There's a lot of relievers

I mean Beninti I didn't talk about Benintendi He feels like he's just in this left fielder spin cycle of Is Soto going to happen is hap going to happen than benny now yeah who because benny's one of those guys that could be acquired and you're not i think he's on that kind of b tier where you're not giving up your top guys you're still in the hunt for so even if you get benny brandon drury nelson

cruz oh someone should pick up drury what team needs infield help well like hitting from the infield position the white socks need a second baseman try am i just the white socks guy now you're a white sox guy you might be a white sex guy and we'll be trade David Peralta for my snakes he might be looking for a new home I'd be bummed if

Drury doesn't get traded just to let you guys know seems like the Giants would pick him up and you'd be like what why yeah Drury who's also of Ian Hap ilk nice guy but dog Chicago him and Ian Hap come in both of them kicked Tony Roos in the shins double kick like two little twins coming up

Do they have the same facial hair? It's the, it's the, the Will Ferrell movie kicking and screaming when they just run up and kick the coach in the shins, the little kids. It happens. Kids don't get a fuck. I really like that movie. It's a good one. What?

I really likes that movie. I think Oakland's still going to go in a big way. Oakland, we've been quiet about them because, Montes got hurt. He came back. He threw 50 bullets the other day. His season stats still look good. I think that's a guy that still ends up somewhere. They have some bullpen pieces. And hey, Oakland operates a little bit differently. I still think Laser Ramon has a chance. Next year is his first year in arbitration. And Oakland doesn't like to pay guys. So I could see him get involved. The funny one I've started daydreaming is Lurion

to Houston after he tried to fight all of them. Because if they could get over that, he'd be the perfect pisser for the bottom of their lineup. I think Oakland, like Oakland will be selling anything and everything they can. We love that for them. The Nats should be, but how distracted are they going to be by Soto stuff?

I don't know. Trade Soto. Yeah, they need to get him out of the way to open everything else. Yeah, because they still got Bell. too, right? Bell. Bell is another guy who I love. He's going to go somewhere,

whether it's the brew crew. He might go to Houston. Mets. He's the Mets. He forget about the Mets. They have a lot of needs to address, but I think he's going to be one of the most impactful players this season.

Like he's a righty lefty dude, his switch hitter. There are certain teams that are really in need of offense that he can provide. I really like him. I think he's really going to, like I said, be impactful. Okay.

Going back to the Luriano, C. Rosie brought up a good point about this. Like, Dumbrowski's there. He says they're going to go for it and they're all in or whatever. They don't have a ton of like blue chip prospects to go after the top guys. So that means you either got to eat a bunch of salary and take on, you know, whoever it is that the team's trying to dump or you have to go kind of, you know, backdoor finding those guys. Luriano kind of makes some sense for the Phillies, doesn't it?

Need a center fielder, not going to cost a lot. He's a piece of the puzzle that Dombrovsky's trying to figure out. They need starting pitching still, but he can slot in there, right? I always forget about the Phillies, and they're absolutely going to pull something weird this deadline. Yeah, because it's Dave. It's the perfect storm. They have a funky team.

Oh, double Ds up there, man. They got it. I think they let Topper make the pick. Topper, who do you want? What do you want, Top? You might tell me to come back, do some crosswords. Ooh, Trevor Plouf, back to the Phillies. Rumors.

You got beef up. The twins do anything. I know you guys aren't concerned with that because you don't care, but they're in a position now where it's like they... The amount of relievers available and the amount of teams, if you look at any article about like, what does this team need? They're like, reliefers.

And the White Sox read like the best pen going into the season. I just read someone, I think he's passing his article, was like, they actually want relievers. It's like, okay. So we're going to have 20 relievers traded and change teams. It's, yeah. I mean, that's why, like, when you talk about a lot of this stuff, it's just more, you got to make it fun because none of us know what the hell is going on.

We don't, because once one piece follows, it's the butterfly effect. Isn't Ashton Coucher in that movie? he stars in it he stars in that that's what happens you know freaks me out Jake doesn't like the butterfly effect

it scares him it's how I live every day yeah there's an episode is so weird all about that back in 2002 it's a Disney channel show

came on sometimes before the jersey I'll like go to open a door to leave the house but then I'll wait five seconds right

because I know I just changed the world wow you're powerful man I was chasing a rabbit the other day and I felt powerful I didn't want to be chasing the rabbit man it was super early in the morning

it was four five o'clock in the morning I was riding my bike to the train station and is dark and his rabbit jumped down in front of me and then started running away from me because it was scared and I'm on my bike like well I don't do it I wasn't trying to chase you

but now if anyone was to hone in my life Truman style like I'm on a bike chasing a rabbit I look like a bad guy so I was pretty pissed of the rabbit it's definitely his fault I'm not trying to change in a simulation not trying to hey twins we said they had the trade Carlos Korea they're not trading Carlos Correa they can offer on the qualifying offer yada yada but they have this dude for this year like it seems to me like they're kind of the team that nobody's talking about making a big deal but they kind of have to make a big deal like they have to go get one of those top end starters like they have to go do something like that they might have to go get wilson contraris to play catcher for him like they got to make a splash i think more than any other team man like this is their window

wilson contraris and gary sanchez behind the dish for the twins it's um beautiful trade rumor nonsense to wrap up. Feels like a Jolly Olive video in the making. It does, doesn't it? That'd be fine. But though, they do have to do something, man. You guys don't even care about the twins, but they can be a force.

Put the right pieces in, get hot. I feel they're the one team that's still the most linked to Montes, which would be a twins move. Like, hey, we're going to take a chance on this guy. The rest of the league's a little nervous. You're right, because, you know, You know, I'm drinking, I'm still drinking a little bit of that White Sox Kool-Aid in the worst way and fucking motorcycle gang,

Ian Hap on the White Sox now. If the White Sox get good, then you should get White Sox fan, non-White Sox fan of the year. Okay. I don't think anyone's had more faith in the White Sox than you. There's maybe some White Sox fans and like relatives. To me or Jake? Jake.

I'm also there. I'm with them. I haven't left the train. All right. You guys both get it. Congratulations. Do you like a sunny gray, Joe Ryan,

Luis Castillo, three top starters matching up against people? That's scare you at all. I know the answer to this question already. I will root for them. I kind of like all three of those guys. But.

What's Joe Ryan look like come October? He's got a 289 through 15. starts, bro. He's sexy. Career.9 whip guy, Joe Ryan. So put some respect on his fucking name. Career. Isn't he a rookie?

He had a few starts, 2021. Five. Montas, two wild card games. You got to hit both times. Rune for your twins. Always. No, it's a team that's not getting mentioned at all. Jake.

Atlanta Braves. Ooh. One of the best teams in baseball. They made a bunch of moves at the last year's deadline that propelled them to a World Series. Their GM has to think he's pretty good at making deadline deals. They're going to do some funny business, right? Probably need some relievers.

Ian Hap, relievers, Wilson Contreras, bro. No, we need relievers. We should have one of our interns just go to every team's blog and start Ian Hap rumors. The Rangers are building something And could Ian Hap be a part of that? I will tamper with Ian Hap's re-agency. You owe him that, if not a bottle of wine.

I mean, I'm just kidding. I want to do that. I always wanted to be a, what do you mean? We're above that? I always wanted to start whisper campaigns. That's what we used to do at winter meetings. We would interview people and say, do you want us to start a whisper campaign for you?

Because that's a real place at winter meetings. Like, if you want a whisper campaign, you just get in the elevator and there's MLB executives there. If we were to stoop that low, if we were to stoop that low, we wouldn't be the first. Not by a long shot. There's a lot of whisper campaigning going on. There's a ton of whisper campaigns. And it's usually monetarily inclined, if you know what I mean. Yeah, that payola.

Hmm, what's that? Paola is how like music DJs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I've been working on a masterpiece. I've seen you doing something over there. You're always doing something in these episodes. So I put Drury and Hap's faces together. Okay.

Because Jake said he thought they looked alike with similar facial hair. Yeah. Pretty similar. Happer's just a little better looking. Yeah. That's a little more tightened up. I will say Dray looks a little tough. Haps a little more show.

Jory doesn't have as good as manners as Hap. No. Not many people do. Jerry doesn't hold a fork the right way when he eats. You know the show Billions? Do you guys ever watch that? Yeah, I've seen it. Here's the actual.

Not the faces. Yeah, I've seen the show Billions. I stopped watching it after like this second season, but I know of it. Yeah, it's okay. The lead actor, the guy. Damien Lillard. Yeah, but that's not him. whatever, what's his name in the show?

Basketball player. Cousin Greg. Ian Hat reminds me of that. Damian Lewis. That's his name. He reminds me of that character. Sergeant. Winters.

Buttoned up and, like, you can put the charm on when he needs to, but the guy is a dang killer. Oh, my God. Don't let anybody tell you anything different about Ian. The guy is. That guy based off Steve Cohen. So now.

It's loosely based, bro. Because this guy's an absolute, like, man rocket. You don't know how Steve Cohen sees himself. You don't find Steve Cohen attractive. By actions, maybe it's based on, but like the look, this is like Billy Bean getting fucking Brad Pitt to play him. My goodness, dude. Whoever did that, I hate, but the casting director of funny ball in movies.

Yeah, but it gave Billy Bean this superpower, bro. Yeah. Brad Pitt plays you in a movie. you have a superpower. Well, the real Benjamin Button, he didn't get much out of it. Treve? Who plays Treve in the movie?

Who plays... That movie fucked me up, bro. Who plays Treve in the movie? Robert De Niro? No. I think that new dude that plays Elvis. Okay. That's cool.

He's a good-looking guy. It has to be better looking than me. I can't just have some... That's true. ...d play me. Hot. Actors. Skinny.

Dude, how about a... He just played a rooster. Miles Teller. He could do it, Trev. I like that. He's a good-looking guy. I've seen him out in L.A. before. We like guys.

Ooh. I would be Melissa McCarthy. It's been silly, guys. We're getting silly. It's gotten silly. We need the trades to start happening. And they will. Let's mention two teams.

is two, three teams before we end because we're going to get commented to death. Okay. Blue Jays, who are they going after? What's, what's the deal? Relievers, relievers. We're going to do. Blue Jays needs. The comment section is crazy. I did the math today. I'm a math guy. If we gave five minutes to all 30 teams, that would be a two and a half hour episode. And five minutes isn't enough. Five minutes goes. And if we give five minutes minutes to a team, they get mad. We only got five minutes. It's nuts.

That's a great game. It's crazy. Blue Jays. They like their team. They just got rid of their manager. Yeah, they get an arm. You know what they need? They need like a Martine Perez.

Like, just get us to the postseason and through the wild card and keep us going. We don't need a postseason pitcher. We just need a guy. Your guy, Kikuchi's coming back. So in a way, he can kind of be that. Well, he hasn't been good. What are your other teams? Veterans stars.

Kentana. Don't get Kintana. Bar-da-b-b-b-b-b-bo-bo-boom. Yeah. That's so twins, don't tell Trev. That is it, yeah. Well, you know. Start the year out with that.

They don't add that to the five spot. They go, you know, that guy's going to really get better this year. Katana to the Blue Jays, locked. M to the Twins. Michael Givens. Oh, wait, we already said Michael Givens to the Blue Jays. Houston or the Jays. Yeah.

Okay, Seattle Mariners. Big on the Juan Soto deal. We didn't mention that, but they have the capital to do it. And like you said, they're Wilson Contreras away from having a freaking guide every single spot in their. Bullpen help. I don't know. They got a lot.

I like their rotation. I just fell in love with the Wilson Contreras idea. I mean, it gives them a video game lineup. I don't know if it works, but like, why not? And then who was the other team I said? Cardinals?

Oh, we haven't mentioned them. They're supposed to be the leaders in the clubhouse for Soto. I mean, dude, I think they're either like Soto or bus. Like they like their lineup. They could use pitching depth. Like they scream Martine Perez to me a little bit. Guy we said won't be traded.

They'd be the most knowledgeable baseball team offensively. I think maybe, I don't want to say ever because people get mad when you say that. Sure. But one of the greatest offensive-minded teams you'll find. Juan Soto Paul Goldschmidt and Nolan Aeronado. Not to mention a guy like Yadi, who's a catcher so he understands the offensive position from that angle. Smart team.

Unreal amount of baseball knowledge if Juan Soto comes over. They already have it in spades. So underrated aspect of teams, man. I'm telling you guys they can sit around and talk ball and be insightful on flights and in the dugout and at dinners. It's like classes in session all the time. And there are some teams that don't have that shit. and, you know, I don't want to name names, but it affects your season.

Name a name. Nope. What was I just looking at, guys? Hold on. Otani to the Twins, is that what you said? There's one team in desperate need of leadership so much so they fired their, quote-unquote, bad leader. Nelson Cruz to the Blue Jays.

Yes. I love that. I think that makes them a great team. He's managing now somewhere. Or are going to be. Didn't he just get a managing job? he seems more like a special assistant. By the way,

the amount of special assistants I met at the MLB draft, every single ex-player is a special assistant. I'm getting that job. Same. Need it. Nick Swisher is a not even, he's not even a special assistant

to the general manager. I think he's a special assistant to the owner. Swisher, Swisher actually did a, Swisher had that role with the Yankees. He might still, but he actually, because I'm so skeptical of that shit.

But he, like, would go to Scranton. He would bring all the rookies to dinner and he would just tell them about what it was like playing in front of the New York crowd, what it was like dealing with the media. So he did, a lot of guys said, like, his guidance was really nice when they had all those rookies when judge,

the baby bombers came up. So he's, well, he's in Tampa now. He goes to the facility all the time. And you know what? I'm a Nick Swisher guy declared on this show you know a good time talking to him we were going to invite him to be the third on

team baggage for a blitzball battle maybe we will in the future we do have a height restriction I don't know how tall Nick Swisher is I think he's under six isn't that the restriction it says six flat on baseball reference yeah so he's on we're trying to keep that

we're trying to keep it a little lower we're trying to keep it lower yeah oh five nine and a half isn't the same as five six. Our first thought was Padroia. Yep. Brock Holt. Padroia.

Ah, I see why you guys are asking me now. Scooter Jeanette. I got a great guy for you. Tony Kemp. Oh. I invited Jimmy Rollins. He thought it was a joke. Shane Robinson should be your guy.

I might have to clean up some tweets. Yeah, as long as he doesn't search my Twitter when he was on the Yankees for 18 days. You wouldn't care about that. He's a man's man. Okay. So are we? That's what people say about us.

Stan and Judge almost fought the Red Sox because they threw up in it on Shane Robinson. Wild. He was on team. Because he's a fucking dude. Everyone loves that guy. Get him on team baggage then. I'll just text him.

Yeah. All right. Well, not the next one. I actually don't, like that's like not good for my franchise. I might put him on team forgotten wrong. No.

You're only allowed to have 38 and older. Hmm. Hmm. You're giving me Never mind We have height rules You have age rules In good shape

Yeah Guys Wait till Longo's done Playing fucking real baseball He's coming Forgotten wrong I love Longer We're just make him hit lefty

Because I You know You just never seen a two seamer Diced Batting lefty Diced him up Ken Rosenthal What do you say

Tigers's willing to trade Tareke's scoo ball And just about everyone Is that really? That's how it reads. Yeah. Dude. Heyman wishes he could fucking do that.

Heyman would have tweeted that out. Tiger's willing to trade scuba. Scoobo. Blah. Blah. Blah blah. Blah blah. Blah blah.

And it would have been like, Heyman, this is nothing. But the way Rosenthal does it, you're like, yes, Kenny. Report that shit.

All right. Good stuff. Way to go. Kenny. I love Kenny. Yeah. Get Jeff passing. there to freaking be on your team.

I don't know to dice that fool up. Get his kid. You know how I treat my best friends. He doesn't know that. Yeah. I love Matt Carpenter, man. Did we mention all the teams that need to be mentioned? Did you mention the Dodgers barely?

I did. I did. I said they're getting Castillo. Okay, great. Anybody else? Dodgers really don't need anyone. But they will, but they will get someone because that's what good teams do.

Man, you really, I had HAP going to either coast and now that Milwaukee thing's got me spinning a little bit. I don't think they have a room in the outfield, right? Who do they move? Yeah, the Red So, Yell is. Yellow is playing left. Yelie. And that Hap's been playing left.

Taylor. And is Kutch? What's Kutch's deal? He's D.H. He's D.H. Who's playing center for them? Is it Taylor? Right now Tyrone Taylor.

So if Kutcher, Yeli could cover a couple center field innings. I don't know if they can. Yeah, I don't know. But boy, the people in Milwaukee would like some Ian Hap. I love that. He's a slice of apple pie, man. Yeah. With the crumbs.

He's not. With the crumbs. I think you guys have Ian have read so wrong. Okay. That's what he wants people to think, but inside he's a dog. That's why he's perfect for Milwaukee. Yeah. He shows up to dinner.

He wants to ring that fucking bell so bad. He wants to go down and give it a shake, man. Shakes your dad's hand. He eats every part of his meal. He has a slice of pie. And then when it gets late night, yeah, yeah, you're going to want to cover ears. Yeah. This door's rocking.

Imagine when he's so rich, the clothes he's going to wear, they're going to be ridiculous. Yeah. He's going to have like a perfectly tailored leather jacket. Yellow nose that I've failed the past couple years. So you can happen not to Milwaukee. I don't know if he fits there. Well, thanks guys for listening to. us talk.

Baseball fans are excited about the deadline. I'm excited about the deadline. Give us some news. Give us some news. Can we hear the passing from BBD during a live episode? Trev, if Kintana goes to the twins, you will... Jake sucks. Welcome him.

I'm with the opening up. Bad ass. It's very E and half of you. Two a minute, so you're just nice to everybody. The Yankee beat you, and then the Yankees get beat by the Astros. and then it's just the world works. Say la Vie. Yes.

And then the Astros get beat by the wildcard team out of the east. No one thought was going to meet the playoffs. The Cardinals, because they traded for once in a. Philly's.