Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Who Your Team Should Target At The Deadline!

Episode Date: July 22, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. We're less than two weeks from the trade deadline. We're going through a bunch of potential deals. Maybe we'll find something along the way. Let's talk ball. Aaron Seeley. Aaron Judge. I was trying to do this thing.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Oh, got a lead with the knob. Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball presented by Fanatics Markets. We're fans trade on sports. Fanatics Markets available now on the app stores. I'm Jake Storeeally. That is Trevor Plouffe. Dahlon Feeley's in studio today, getting the sheet together. He's been on the road saving the Diamondback season. Sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Rob Chiracco is producing. We got a lot of thoughts from a lot of people. We got a ton of calls from people coming in with some different trades. And we'll sort through it all between the starting pitching. There's catchers. If you've ever wanted a catcher, it feels like there's four guys. good ones available, which I didn't, I've never seen that before. There's shortstop talk and Yankee calls and I'm hoping we don't get to.
Starting point is 00:01:17 All of that and much more with the king. You're having a hell of a 48 hours coach, Treve, a little beach, a little Odyssey, a little God. How are you? I'm doing well. I'm actually in this. I'm in the Odyssey hole right now because if if you're out of the loop, it was filmed on a special film.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Right. meant for theaters that there's only 40 of them in the world. Right. Like 70 millimeter IMAX? Yeah. Nice. So you just can't get tickets to it anywhere. They're reselling for a thousand bucks in New York.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Can't get tickets to it, dude. Go look. Trevor Ploof. That's how it works. There's nobody like handling tickets. It's like through Fandango. Sheesh, bro. Anyways, I'm going tonight.
Starting point is 00:02:07 So somehow. you got tickets. I got tickets to a regular 70 millimeter theater. Because I thought that was the whole thing. Oh, so it's not IMAX. It's not IMAX. I didn't know, dude. I don't, you know, I like movies, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Apparently there's a Dolby version. There's a laser. I'm like, I don't know, man. I thought I was getting the good ticket. I was like, this is sweet. Turns out I really wasn't, but it'll still be fun. catchers. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Before we get into it. Are there any catchers actually available? Yes. Or are they just good catchers who are like, oh, that would be awesome on my team. And if people are making this shit up. Because your twins are a fool if they don't actually listen to Jeffers. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So let's just call him. Yeah. He's a trade. One. Didn't the Orioles come out and say Adley, they're listening on Adley or they're not like close to it? 1.4. Then we say Gabriel Moreno.
Starting point is 00:03:12 We say Shailangelo. I know you're the one that said, you're the one that said Gabriel Moreno. I do not have him on the table. How is he any different than Hunter Goodman or Shailangeloers? Like same thing. I mean, the athletics came out and said that like Langleyers wasn't talking extension at all saying they're a bad team that I think he is on the table.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah, and he's a Boris guy. And then Hunter Goodman. I think he's the other one that's genuinely in the mix. I think how good he is performing with his road numbers. And the Rockies not having a timeline. I think there's smoke there. I just thought of something. I just thought of something.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Everybody relax. This is just fan fiction. I like to do this from time to time if you don't know about this show. We'll get into what we're supposed to talk about soon. Don't worry about it. Maybe. Maybe. pinstripes
Starting point is 00:04:08 what are they what are pinstripes when you wear them what do they do to your appearance they lengthen your appearance they slim you out a little bit right you don't like a guy like me can't wear horizontal stripes you go north and south I gotta go north and south
Starting point is 00:04:24 congrats on your viral video by the way thank you yeah I didn't know if I was turning my back on the short king community I consider myself a tiny staple of that community that Yeah, one of the most viral videos of the company this here, so whatever. Whoops. Whoopsy daisies.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Back to the fan fiction. Yeah. Out of the dugout walks this big figure and playing a long time. Elongated by the pinstripes. He wears an old school catcher's mask. He's a statue guy. Yeah. His name is Sal Perez, to the Yanks.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It's not happening. They just might name them Royals manager and just keep rolling the thing out there. Sorry to Royals fans that had to hear that. You know what? Let's get into it. We had a bunch of people call in and actually let's not get into it. Because, Rob, can you show Chris Rose partying in Alaska? Because we've set a tone for this episode.
Starting point is 00:05:33 There's the H is flying around. There's a little F and F. Chris Rose, wedding in Alaska on a Tuesday and just letting it eat on the dance floor. Phone out. Beautiful wife, Michelle. Looks like Chris Rose and a bunch of women. Shocker.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Shocker. Make sure you go follow him. I texted our social team. I want a Joe's McFly reaction video to that. so hope Chris Rose is having fun in the Great North and then I think he's straight from the Alaska wedding I believe he's going to call the flag football national championship or world championship because he's Chris fucking Rose
Starting point is 00:06:17 all right now that all that's out of our system did you just see what he posted the day before I thought you were going for that coach I heard about it I haven't seen it but I he's too pure to understand understand the bowels of this internet that we live on wild he posted feet right just his shoe which was ridiculous and then michel's foot for the entire internet to have not to completely derail this before we get into the first one because there's a lot of feet people out there and trev i i hate to turn the spotlight on you but i believe there's been a couple times in this show's history where you've said you're not a
Starting point is 00:07:01 foot guy, but you're not, not a foot guy. I'm really not a foot guy. Like, there's no part of me that's like, oh yeah, look at that foot. But like, if a nice foot is there, I don't know. Sometimes a nice foot. Let's do some baseball. I'm married, dude. Yeah, that's great. You can a feet for free. No, don't. Oh, look at those hooves. Oh, bottom's a little dirty. Are they? It's a little bit. You walk around your, I've been walking around outside. Oh, yeah. It's grounding. Touch grass one time.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Rob, play anything. What up, y'all. My name's Zach, first time, long time. As an Atlanta Braves fans, it'd be very short and sweet. We have to go get, like, a big name starting picture. Like, I'm not one of these doom and gloom Atlanta fans. Like, they're out there. But for me, you got to go get a starting picture.
Starting point is 00:07:53 You got to, like, I'm not saying it has to be scoble because I think that's just, like, asking AA for way too much. But, like, these little value, contracts and these like working with what you got in the minor leagues is not going to get us there like the bats are doing well but like good lord we we you got to give the fans one big name at this point so that's what i got got to go after starting 15 you got to get a big name like high leverage someone to replace strider you know what i'm saying anyways love it all the best coach treff the alana brave so i feel like we we didn't
Starting point is 00:08:31 get them well in our trade draft. I mean, A, there's a lot of stuff going on. And as I talk about Chris Rose and him letting it eat on Instagram, just maybe an all-time performance at this company during our trade draft. But the Atlanta Braves, they're definitely going to be in the mix. I guess where I get thrown off with Atlanta is, like, I'm going through some of their injuries right now. And like, are they going to get any starting pitchers back?
Starting point is 00:08:59 I'm not seeing a ton of help. on the way. Like Martin Perez, your guy is rehabbing. I guess do you think they need like the high level playoff guy? Do you think they need innings? Like what do you see? Yeah, look, I don't think we talk a lot about this core and kind of it aging out because they are still pretty young, but they do have a, you know, the position player core that you want to capitalize on essentially. We've got 2021. That was a beautiful thing. I share that with Braves fans. almost every single day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And I'm lucky for that. I'm, yeah, I mean, I get it. Do I think they have to have a starter? I'm not so sure they have to have one. Rinaldo Lopez back in the starting rotation. That obviously helps. Cookie Carasco, just bring up from Gwinnett a few different times. But if they really want to make a deep player, I'm with this guy.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah. What was his name? Zach. Zach, I'm with you, Zach. I think there's actually going to be maybe more starting pitching out there than we think and I know that the Mets and Mets fans are saying we need to extend this guy
Starting point is 00:10:16 but a Clay Holmes would look real, real nice down there in Atlanta. So I could see something like that happening because there are a lot of the pitchers available are rentals. So they're not going to cost a ton. And maybe that's not what AAA wants. Maybe he wants a controllable guy.
Starting point is 00:10:36 But if you wanted to go out and get a guy that's a rental, you got options, man. You got Kevin Gospin. How about you return him? You're a brave again. The Blue Jays, have you looked at their record? Have you seen where they're at? Have you seen what their offense looks like?
Starting point is 00:10:50 I think he is on the block. He's a rental. You got Casey Mize, depending on what the Tigers end of. of doing. He's a rental. And then like I said, I think Clay Holmes is a really, really good option for them, a guy who I think is a good playoff pitcher because of the fact he keeps the ball on the ground. Now, he's coming off. I think he broke his ankle, right? So he's making one rehab start and then coming back to the big league. So you're just expecting him to kind of pick up where he
Starting point is 00:11:23 left off. But I think he fits really well. if not him, somebody, I do agree with Zach. Yeah, the Braves, Braves have had a weird kind of leading up to the All-Star break. I think if you start on June 9th, they were losing a lot of baseball games from 45 and 22 to 54 and 40. That was a lot of losing in Atlanta. They've come out of the break decent. And I guess I kind of didn't have them in this book, book boat. They need playoff in it.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Like if you look at like, okay, how are they going to navigate two, three rounds or a whole series? I guess mentally I didn't have them in that lane. And I think you're right. And I know we mentioned a couple nice Southern boys there. I think Dalt just threw some redetmers in the sheet. That's a guy that we've talked about. The angels don't trade anybody. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I know. But maybe they do. They just got a new front office. But I'd, yeah, I guess interesting. that the Braves are going to make an impact move. And I think it probably starts with starter. Yeah, I think I think that's where they go. Again, you got to find a match.
Starting point is 00:12:38 You got to compete with other teams because everyone's looking for starting pitching. I do think that if I'm the Seattle Mariners, I look to swap out one of my starting pitchers for some offensive help. So I think they're in the mix too, and I don't know if a lot of people have them doing that. I think they're another team that will be willing to give up one of their major league starters ready to go for a major league bat. And those are the trades I love.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I hate prospect trades. Give me the freaking your best or your strength for my strength. That's what I want. There was a, I was going through some different trade articles. I believe it was Jim Bowden of, the athletic and had a George Kirby for Casey Schmidt deal that Schmit's got more years. Kirby, I would be a little surprised if that's how the Mariners traded away their starting pitching value.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I mean, Casey doesn't necessarily do it. But if he has fully broken out into this, it would be interesting. But for me, that I feel if I'm a Mariners fan in this starting pitch, depth we've ranted and raved about for years. If that's how we're cashing in a chip, I don't know. I think they'd want more than that. Well, they have like two of the top prospects in the game that are just right there. I'd ever really thought about Casey Schmidt to the Mariners.
Starting point is 00:14:10 How old is Casey Smith? It's like 26, 27? 27, I believe. I don't hate it for them. Who's starting every day at third base for them? JP, our guy? So JP has slid over. I know Emerson's been around.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I mean, they traded for Donovan, but he's been heard. And that's what in the article, they were saying, the other thing is Schmidt plays all over that he can, you know, they've had some first base struggles. They've had a lot that, and they've been looking for righty pop. So many teams looking for righty pop that I don't, I don't know, the Giants are trying to move a lot. We're getting derailed a little bit.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Good. But they've been watching the Mariners last couple of nights. Cal Raleigh, obviously Big Homer. Yeah. Right in Caleb Ferguson's face. Well, that's, that's karma, man. You say those things about Bill Miller. You know what?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Well, that was after. He said that after. He was mad about giving the homer up. Naylor had three hits last night. So like this, like I want this freaking, I want those two guys to get going. Cal, I texted the group chat last night. I was watching Cal with a really, really good at bat, worked the count bat. I don't, whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:17 We're getting sidebarred. The Mariners do need offensive help. And I don't mind that trade. I don't know how we got there. but Dalton what did I just see you do? Did you just mix two energy drinks? Yes. This is what I was hoping for.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Cheese and biscuits. Dalton, get on the mic real quick. Get Dalcam going. We need Dalcam. I sent you those Instagram for reasons. Oh, that's right. I need you to start posting videos of you making the working man's cocktail. So what we have here is a watermelon cream soda energy drink. That's all I got for you.
Starting point is 00:16:01 No protein. You mixed cream soda and watermelon together. Oh no. It's a cream soda energy drink and a watermelon energy drink. And you mixed them. What inspired this? Uh, the dirty soda fad. I feel like it's getting back. I was like, oh, we could try this with energy drinks. We just, now you need some like electrolytes in there too. Okay. We got electrolytes. We got everything. Okay. Okay. Okay. I've covered. Thanks, Dahl. But we need, I need some posts. That's all I'm saying. I need Dalton-Filly posts about his working on Talk Tales. Thank you. Yes. Yes. I agree with that. Okay. This episode is brought to you by ethos. Let me tell you something about being a father. It's never about you. It's just not about you anymore. The moment, first, when you get married and then especially when you have kids, you're last and you want to be last. You want to protect those in your family. And that's exactly what life insurance does. it kind of takes, you know, all the pressure off. And I know it's not something you always want to talk about, like your mortality, but it's the truth.
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Starting point is 00:18:01 I'm sure we're going to talk about some more impact pitchers. We've got a couple of twins ones on here. I guess let's do it. Hey, so this is Tratton from Iowa. I'm a twins fan. Especially after the loss today, Cleveland, I feel like that the twins should either sell or they should try to build for next year.
Starting point is 00:18:24 One point of emphasis is should they keep Joel Ryan? I think they should, especially for Pablo Lopez coming back next year. I think that's going to add some death to that rotation. Ryan Jeffers, more than likely going to be traded. I could be fine with him getting traded. But yeah, just try to build for next year is what I would like to see the twins do, especially adding some arms in the bullpen for next year and a couple arms in the rotation as well.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Treb, these are your boys. Look, it's just, we're in such a weird spot as a franchise. I've mentioned this plenty of times throughout our show this year. Like, Tom Polet taking over, wanting to earn the fans' trust back, really, you know, makes this trade deadline different. If this was Tom's third or fourth year in control and he had the trust of, the Polet family had the trust of the people, I think they do approach this different.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I think for sure Jeffers is traded. I think they heavily consider trading Joe Ryan. But unless this team continues what they've done after the break, which is just lose. They won the first game out and they lost four in a row. And if they end up in the next two weeks
Starting point is 00:19:59 just playing abysmally, then I can see it working out differently. But if they're in the hunt whatsoever, two games back of a wild card, they're not going to be trading because he doesn't want to lose more fans. He's trying to gain them back. Now, the only one I will say
Starting point is 00:20:15 that I continue to flip-flop on is Ryan Jeffers. They drafted two catchers. with their first two picks this year. Von Lacky, who's, you know, they think is a couple years away. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Like they, if you're drafting, with where the MLB drafts gone, if you draft a kid like that with the third pick, you expect to see him in about two years, which is nuts, but good. You know, so I think that
Starting point is 00:20:43 Jeffers is an interesting candidate. He's a Boris guy. I don't know what kind of extension he's looking for or like, what his deal in free agency would be because I do think if they twins could sign it'd be a smart sign bridge that gap
Starting point is 00:20:58 you know if it's a if it's a three year deal two year deal whatever it would be I think he's gonna look for more than that and free agency though I don't know if I don't know the catcher market enough to really settle down and say hey twins offer him this and he'll accept it again Boris guy I just
Starting point is 00:21:14 I don't think that's going to happen I think we're too far away from that so he's the one guy I could see happening. The rest of them, you know, Dalt's got Josh Bell on her sheet right now. He's just, they won't do it because the return won't be good enough to replace kind of like what
Starting point is 00:21:31 he's done for the clubhouse. All they talk about is Josh Bell and how good he's been for everybody, but specifically Byron Buxton. So I don't think he's going anywhere. I don't think Joe Ryan's going anywhere with a caveat of if they just lose. Right. Then
Starting point is 00:21:48 maybe it changes. And then the fan base is like, okay, this is the right thing to do. But if they're in contention whatsoever, I think Jeffers is pretty much the only guy who they would consider trading. Yeah, I think you got to cash in that chip, man. I think the Jeffers, like, you bring up his page. And again, it's, it's impressive in a way, but it's also like there's a little bit of a head tilt. Because if you do the last four years, I mean, he's done kind of nothing but produce, uh, but there's some limited action in there. Well, yeah, they were, they were platooning him.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Right. I don't know why. And actually, like, dude, every catcher, like, if you play 120 games as a catcher, you're, that's kind of today's everyday catcher outside of Cal Raleigh last year and Salvi. But in the way he's playing right now, man, that I realize prospects are suspects, uh, that's, I don't know if that's a Joe's Mcfly original. I believe in it. But also, I mean, dude, there's so many times, like we, Fernando Tatees,
Starting point is 00:22:51 show hey not being traded. Like, if you're the twins and you can get a guy, which I think you can, like for the way Ryan Jeffers is producing right now, like 941 OPS, again, that's not his player card. But also we see a lot of catchers. Sometimes it takes a couple years for the light bulb to go on. And if you look at Jeffers, and I don't know if that's managing the pitching staff, along with all your other responsibilities, dude, he's a guy that is going to be taken care of.
Starting point is 00:23:21 with his next contract, whether that's the twins or free agency, because he's putting up numbers that I think if you do that daydream of like, if this guy lands on the right team in the right environment, he can produce. I think they're going to get offers that I think you can get like a real prospect and then probably like a relief pitcher prospect, which Trev, when you've talked about the twins this year, some of the guys coming out of that bullpen because they traded away a whole complete bullpen. Like, I just don't know if the twins have a 500-ish second half.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I don't know how many fans that's retaining or not offending. Like, I think the real Minnesota Twins fans, you know, my tribe, they want to see the team win. And I, this year's team doesn't reek of that. It has, though. I mean, they've been within a playoff spot almost the entire. entire year. The offense has been really, really good for them. You know, I think we never got the full run of this team. Pablo Lopez going out. That really hurts. Love him. I think they're
Starting point is 00:24:32 going to give it a go again next year with these guys. We have a couple, we have a couple of bats at the AAA level that are supposed to be incredible. Walker Jenkins is a guy who are like, people, people are comparing him to like a Joe Maurer S. Kidder. Oh, boy. Yeah. Oh, boy. He saved a kid's life on the field or something like that. In a AAA game, that's a true story.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Okay. I'm just telling you what I have seen and heard around the twins. I'm an expert, people. I think Jeffers is the one guy that they are looking, they would consider moving. It has any sort of like real. like value to the franchise. Juice.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Juice. Juice is a good word. Okay. Let's keep it cooking. Hey, big Brewers fan talking baseball and I want to see the Brewers add some bat to the lineup.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I'm thinking maybe a Taylor Ward, maybe an ESSach Paredes. Is Mickey Moniac available? I know this is in division but Matt Shaw, we look really good in a brewer's uniform. And then I'd like to see some pitching. Casey Mize would be fantastic.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Maybe a bullpen arm. I don't think the Brewers will get any of them because that's not the way we do business. But it's sure, any one of those guys would make me a very happy Brewers fan. And we've got a lot to deal. Andrew Vaughn can go. Logan Henderson can go. I don't know. Don't want to get swept in the NLCS. Bye-bye. Thank you talking baseball.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Thank you. Thank you. Our brewers, Trev, I feel like we've gotten ourselves excited in a lot of previous years, and we daydream of that middle of the lineup bat. I don't know how much we need to daydream, because before last night's games, they had the best record in baseball, and we've talked about them trending up. I mean, one, I think they're always looking for pitching. I mean, Lance McCullors currently listed in that bullpen. Let's see what goes on there.
Starting point is 00:26:54 That if they think they can find someone they can tap into, I think that's just the brewers doing business, whether it's the trade deadline or not. The bat, I don't know. You and I both did kind of that Esauk Paredes head tilt. Like, he's got a little brewers in them, like straight pull power. He could play a few positions. Like, we could, could he be in,
Starting point is 00:27:14 somewhat impactful. I just don't think the Brewers think that way. I think they're rolling that I like our caller ended the question. I just don't, I don't see it like that. It's interesting. I like the offensive ad more than anything else for the Brewers. I think that, you know, I'd be okay with going to the playoffs with their pitching staff the way it is. Taylor Ward's an interesting one for me because I haven't really thought about him going to the Brewer. Freelick got some shoulder stuff. They ended up putting him on the IL. So there's your right field replacement right there. Or you move to Urio over to right field and put Taylor Warden left, whatever you want to do. I could see that happening. Rental wouldn't cost a ton. There is
Starting point is 00:28:03 going to be competition for this guy. But that's that's an interesting one to me. And I guess, again, I never really had gotten into it just because, you know, I know, I know Sal hasn't done a great this year offensively, but he's just kind of been one of their guys. But with him hurt now, it opens up the potential for this. So the Taylor Ward one made me kind of like head tilt a little bit. Issaq Paredes
Starting point is 00:28:26 swapping out what, Joey Ortiz for him? Yeah, I mean, Ortiz. Actually, I don't, I don't mind either of those, if we're being honest. I would think if you are the Brewers Front Office and you're saying, how do we improve this? You look
Starting point is 00:28:43 at everything. They're starting pitching his first in ERA, their bullpen numbers are good. Their offensive numbers are good. You need homers, coach. They're last in home runs. You know, every year, I mean, the brewers who are one of, if not recognized as the smartest team in baseball these days for the way they're performing, they have to be looking at that and being a little worried because every year we get to the postseason and the postseason home run stats come out. And if you out home or your team in the
Starting point is 00:29:09 postseason, you win 90% of the games or whatever it is that the brewers have to be looking at that with a little bit of how are we going to do this? I would think they're sourcing some power bats, whether that's Perretta's, whether a guy like Joe Adele, if we're looking in the outfield. I wonder who else is a... Casey Schmidt's got some brewers to him if he's available. Gosh, that's such a brewer. Casey Schmidt's got a lot of beer in him.
Starting point is 00:29:38 He can play third. He can play left. I don't know. I guess pitching-wise, I almost shrug like I did to start. If the brewers trade for a pitcher, just watch, watch out. But yeah. What about Casey Smith's arch rival? My good friend, Matthew Chapman. It's a lot of, there's some money tied to that. There's some money, but I think the giants are looking to get rid of like a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:30:03 dude. I think they're trying to get out of everything. Money talks. So if the giants are willing to dance a little bit with that, because I don't, I don't think. It's not that much, dude. it's 25 It isn't it isn't man I mean think about the CBA
Starting point is 00:30:20 and the Milwaukee conversations We're gonna have coming up Like think about Think about what they think they can get From Joey Ortiz At no money Compared to Matthew Chapman At a lot of money
Starting point is 00:30:31 That I don't Say they get it down to 15 a year I'd answer the call Elite Defender still Still Righty pop Dirty Pop I like the Casey Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I like it all. I like it all. I want the Brewers to add, I guess, is the whole gist of it. Like, come on. And we do this every year. And then the deadline happens and we're like, oh, well. It's not true. They got Andrew Vaughn.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Was that a waiver claim last year? That was, I think that was the, that was early. I think that was the White Sox offering like a peace offering, like teach us something. And we'll give you Andrew Vaughn. Yeah, no, they were done with them. I want to look up exactly one. That happened. June 13th for Savali and cash considerations.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Oh my gosh. What a fucking, what a fucking deal. Savale's on the Cubs. I don't see the Matt Shaw Cubs spruers trade happening. Although I would love, again, to be a fly on the wall of like these real actual GM conversations. Like, do the Brewers and Cubs even talk?
Starting point is 00:31:40 Hey, hey, Matt Shaw for Bobby Gasser, huh? What do you think? Royce Lewis to the Brewers. doors. Okay. He already looks like Ryan Braun in the box. Next call. Ryan Braun. How's Hey guys. How's it going? Tyler Ross, big Texas Rangers fan here. We need to bring Shea Langaleers back to Texas. The boys from, you know, went to Waco, had some time with the Baylor Bears. He's a Texas native. I know he's got some ties to to the Mets because his name is Shea and Shea Stadium. But at the end of the day, we need young and consistent at the Rangers right now.
Starting point is 00:32:20 And he checks both of those boxes for us. I love Kyle Higashiyoka. I love Elias. I even have a soft spot for Danny Jansen. But at the end of the day, we need young and consistent. And I think Shay checks both of those boxes for us. Thanks for your time. Travis, A, I love a local connection.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I was going to say something with the Braves before because all those Southern. pitchers they got thrown out. Clay Holmes, Casey Mize, getting them in that with those Atlanta Braves, pitch a little, go hunting. Shea Lang Lears, I'm laughing internally because my Yankees have been struggling with the catcher position this year, that the Texas Rangers were one of the teams we've been looking at because when their guys are healthy, they have Higashioka, who still plays a role in this league. Danny Jansen, who's a pretty solid baseball page when you bring it up. especially thinking about the catcher position, and Elias Diaz, who had some stretches this year,
Starting point is 00:33:20 I know the Yankees were looking at their catchers being like, we want those guys. So I like that Texas Ranger fans are like, if someone like Langaleers is available, bring him to us, now we can flip those other guys over to the Yanks. That's where your head goes. My head goes to, I don't know if that's what you need, Pop. I'm looking at these box scores over the last few games.
Starting point is 00:33:41 since the break they've given up 15 runs six runs eight runs and 10 runs you're going to come over you're going to try to out outbang everybody else bangaliers on everybody else
Starting point is 00:33:55 I don't know if that's what we need I think pay a little respect to the nice sure but we can't be giving up runs like this the first place Texas Rangers they are in first place by a half of game
Starting point is 00:34:08 I believe over the Mariners yeah that's an interesting one to me. I'd go elsewhere if I was the Rangers. Some run prevention would be nice. Let me get up on the season. I actually haven't even looked at this. Most teams I know kind of off the top of my head where they're at. The Rangers
Starting point is 00:34:23 I don't know. Run prevention. Decent OAA. It looks like DRS isn't the biggest fan. Middle of the packish. I was just going more like runs for, you know, given up as a team. It's been
Starting point is 00:34:39 tough for them as of late. I have questions for Jimmy Norp after this. I'm doing baseball today with him. And one of the questions I have, Dahl, you'll love this, is Texas Rangers snakes, who you got rest of the season, if you had to pick one team. There are two teams. I can't figure out.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I watched them play. I called games for both of these teams. They're flawed in a lot of different ways, but they can also go on runs. Like, you know, look, the Rangers need Corey Seeger. No doubt about that. sometimes their offense looks great sometimes it goes completely silent
Starting point is 00:35:15 sometimes their pitching looks great sometimes it doesn't it's like they just I think he even said the consistency of this team is just I believe they've only had one winning month out of the year the Texas Rangers
Starting point is 00:35:30 and they're sitting one game of a 500 it's an interesting thing I don't know I can't put my finger on the Rangers in exactly what they need I would say some bullpen help would probably be the number one thing I would start with and a healthy Corey Seeger? Their health has been off all year.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah, their first place in the West. So do with that what you want. I think they're going to be involved heavily. I don't think it's a catcher. There's also aside to this, there's some baseball people that are like, you don't trade for a catcher, mid-year. Like between working with the pitchers and, like, just messing with that side of the
Starting point is 00:36:15 ball, they say it's really hard on the catcher, it's really hard on the pitcher. But I think if you're the Texas Rangers, I think you're right. I think there's a lot of other stuff going on that... Give me a right-hand right out of the pen. Sure. All-star, Jacob Lats. Put some respect on his name. You looked good on the red carpet. Handsome. He is a handsome guy. A handsome guy.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Fucker. Sorry, that's, I didn't mean to say that. Whoa. That was a lot. Whoa. Okay. You see what White Langford's been doing, though? See what my guy, Jack Peterson's doing?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah. Yeah. Thickles, there's such a, there's, answer the question. Snakes or Rangers? Yeah. Texas. You've been a Rangers guy. I've always thought they've been dangerous.
Starting point is 00:37:01 If they hit the playoffs healthy and you're, you're staring down to Grom of all the Gour and. and they're throwing the pill well. Like, how about those young guys? We talk about starters kicking to the bullpen. Like, could a Kumar or Jack Lider find it for a month in a two-winning roll or stuff? Look at Roki last year, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Rokey was a horrible starter. He went to the pen. Apparently, that guy's adrenaline glands are fucked because he threw every pitch at 105 against the Yankees. He's like, chill out, Rokey. It's a regular season game, dog. He hates the Yankees. He hates the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Just like a good American should. Yeah. Hey, listen. Right. What was I going to say? What were you going to say? Texas. Oh, if I told you this.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Okay. Think about the 2024 Rangers. Not 2023. Not 2023. 2024. Yeah. Okay. Remember what happened.
Starting point is 00:37:53 If I was going to say, hey, one team this year that reminds you of the 2024 Rangers, this is an easy one. The 24 Rangers? Like the underachieving horrific offense? Dalt says he's got it It's easy The Toronto Blue Jays Yes
Starting point is 00:38:14 Okay World Series Coming off the World Series Yeah I like that I mean they won the World Series Good for the Rangers But sorry Dalt
Starting point is 00:38:23 To bring that one up But Offense Well there I mean I don't Their offense is not as bad as the Blue Jays I say you would I think there's going to be a bidding war
Starting point is 00:38:35 Between the Texas Rangers and the Tampa Bay Devil Rays for Luis Arise. Because right now I'm seeing Nikki Lopez picking it at second for Texas, and no offense to Nikki Lopez. But either the Texas Rangers having the start of- Put some respect on Foskew's name. You know, I love Foskew and forget you too, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:59 But, like, Luisa Rize in the top of that Texas lineup or Tampa, dude, if Tampa opens up a game going, You got a rise and a randa from the left side. You get Yondi and Cominero from the right side. He's a ray. That's gnarly. That's gnarly. Arise is a ray.
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Starting point is 00:40:15 Hello, Jacob and Trevathy. I'm going to talk about what I want the Dodgers to do. I know some fans are shouting chair school from soapboxes, but I would argue that those fans are not real ball knowers. And real ball knowers want one player, one pitcher specifically, and that pitcher is Joe Ryan. Sorry about it. But if we're moving on for my dream, they need catching help because Dalton rushing can't be the primary catcher. I think they will get starting help. Probably not Joe Ryan,
Starting point is 00:40:49 and they will need a catcher to split the responsibilities with rush. Maybe Ryan Jeffers to ruin Yankees' fans' dreams. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Wow. Okay. That was a lot to both of us. I'll let you go for it.
Starting point is 00:41:06 There's some theatrics involved there. So, yeah, I mean, they moved Will Smith to the 60-day, I. What does that mean? He's got the neck injury. He's been on the IL since June 8th. So I don't think that's that big of a deal that they moved into the 60 day because he's already like, so he can return the 7th, August 7th.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. And I mean, a lot of teams, you can juggle 40 man space that way. Sure. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He wasn't going to come back before the 7th anyway. So I don't think this is huge news that they moved into the 60 day. I don't think he's had a setback. but it has been a slow to progress, I guess is a way to put it.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Do they need catching help? I mean, I personally don't see that. I mean, I think the Dodgers are playing for one thing. It's October. I think Will Smith is still hoping to come back in August that Will Smith and Dalton rushing would probably be the top catching unit in baseball that I don't think you just add another catcher to that mix when both of those guys can be there however long they want to be there.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Again, the Dodgers can do whatever they want, but I don't think it starts there at all. Alfonso last night not hustling around the bases. I don't know if you saw that. I have not. He's another one of their catchers. Right. 510-155 listed.
Starting point is 00:42:33 That's like a high school kid. There's no way that's true. That feels old. Yeah. he show it's a ball kind of in the gap Derek Hill obviously out there and center field for Philly's making fucking plays here it is
Starting point is 00:42:50 show hey probably I don't know if he needs to go to second here but look at this he's jogging in they initially call him safe but he's out and then Alfonso does not score before that Dodgers win anyway on this one but anyway so I don't know why I'm talking about that We're talking about backup catchers here a little bit.
Starting point is 00:43:12 He slipped, but that doesn't mean anything. He wasn't running hard. Catching help, don't know if that's exactly what they need. Do I think they're going to be in on starting pitching? I do. Is that like a necessary thing for the Dodgers? No, because, you know, we're going to get a glass now. We're going to get a snellback at some point.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I'm still assuming that. But they're the one team you got to look out for. They can go land scoobble, man. There's a chance they're just quiet. Like I know we've... No, no, that's not how they do business. No, I think they're going to make a huge play for Scoobel because the tigers, I think, would let him go
Starting point is 00:43:56 if they got another start, a controllable starter back, a big league starter. She and her Robleski, I feel like those are the two. Yes, plus some prospects, which the Dodgers have a zillion. They're outfield prospects. They think they're the most dangerous team Two-land scoobble, right now. Which is, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:15 I don't know if I want that for the state of the game. It would be interesting. The Dodgers need to kind of maybe need to lay on their sword for the good of the game. No. Fuck that. I'll stand up for my Dodger brother and that do not want me. I'm just, guys, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:44:31 You can get scoble. I don't know if Detroit's selling. Like, I, yeah. They could do that thing, Jake. could do that thing. It's true. If they get a major league starter back, they can very easily tell their fan base, like, hey, he wasn't coming back. We still got a chance this season. Yeah, I mean, the Dodgers, you have to figure they're going to throw the kitchen sink at Scoobble because they can. Yeah, it's going to be a lot of eyes on Detroit. And will the Braves get
Starting point is 00:45:05 involved? Like, well, like the sick-o-filly's, Dumbrowski, snake in the grass. They don't have, they don't have it. Dude, if they could open up a playoff series, Sanchez, Scubel, Wheeler? They don't have the chips. Baby Jesus Lizard. They don't have the chips to go get them. Take Justin Crawford, take Aiden Miller,
Starting point is 00:45:26 take Andrew Painter. Fuck it, we ball, bro. I don't think that's enough. I think that's enough. My front office. Maybe I just don't even know what those guys really mean. Let's do more.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Let's do more. Joe, oh, actually. I'm a Cleveland. I was going to talk about Joe Ryan, but that's kind of, we can't lose the final 20 minutes to that. He's handsome. He's good. I'm a Cleveland Indian fan or Cleveland Guardian fan. And so I know that we aren't really likely to get anybody big, like Jordan Alvarez or anything,
Starting point is 00:46:05 but we really do need to get both right-handed power, and we either need to fix up the first base position and also get another outfielder. Those are our biggest two holes. So I think that those can be best filled by getting Taylor Ward, who is a rental on the Orioles. So that should not be too terribly difficult. Or Elliot Ramos or Spencer Speer. Both of those, I believe, would be more difficult because they're not pre-agents until 2030, I believe. And they at least still have some club control for a couple years on them. But I think that they would serve better if we were able to get either of those two as well.
Starting point is 00:46:41 So I would like to see Taylor Ward and either Spencer Steer or Elliot Ramos. I just had a really funny thought. Please. And what if the Guardians trader for Luis Arise and just start? They just collect small left-handed hitters. It's Chris Rose's. That's Chris Rose's thing, right? It's a different battle to get through if Kwan is back and arise.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I mean, obviously. I deal a lot. They're in my division. I have to listen to Chris Rose talk about them a lot. They've been searching for a right-handed outfield bat for, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:47:24 a decade, essentially. We interviewed Roger Davis, famous 2016 Homer against Rallis Chapman. And I said, I said, Roger, you'd like the last good,
Starting point is 00:47:33 right-handed hitter that the guardians have had. And Chris Rose laughed. He's like, shit, maybe, maybe that might be right. So Taylor Ward makes sense, but again, I think there's going to be a lot of suiters.
Starting point is 00:47:44 for this guy. Under the radar candidates, I think you steer. The reds are going to trade. He's kind of having a little bit of a resurgent year. He's a guy that can kind of play everywhere if you need him to as well.
Starting point is 00:48:01 So versatility is there. Right-handed bat. Under control for a couple more years, I believe. So it's not just this year. It's like 27, 28 under control. He can play first. He can kind of play the outfield if you need him to. There's all sorts of things he can do.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I think that's an interesting kind of target for them. Yeah, I'm, I don't know. I just, if I'm the Guardians, I don't know what Spencer Steer does for me. The splits are big. Like lefties, he maulsed. He won dots against lefties, but that means he's a 657 OPS versus righties.
Starting point is 00:48:41 So, like, depending their potential playoff matchup, Hey, the Guardians do operate this way, and it's part of what frustrates Chris Rose. And it's kind of a part of baseball that's getting thrown out. Like, a lot of these smaller market teams are like, why don't I get, if I can have two guys on my roster, one platoons against lefties, one platoons against righties, like that's how we could stack our lineup. You could pinch hit later. I just, for the Guardians, I don't know what this is.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Honestly, as I'm looking at his profile, I mean, this is almost, this is like Casey Schmidt Light. that like if I was the Mariners and I'm looking for someone to add to our mix that can change our versus lefties stuff maybe it's someone like that but Spencer Steer I don't
Starting point is 00:49:22 I don't know what it changes I mean it's it helps them against lefties yeah and the problem is the problem truly is is that every single team is looking for a guy that
Starting point is 00:49:39 hits lefties or is a right-handed bat Yeah. I've got a three, actually four Spencer Steer Fun Facts. Interesting. Last one that just snuck in. Middle name Gordon. Okay. That's fine. I know a guy named Spencer Gordon. Look at that. Five fun facts. From Long Beach, California.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Milliken High, yeah. That's just normal, normal stuff. University of Oregon go ducks. Didn't have that for Spencer. Thanks. Spencer Steer height. 5-11. 5-9. Oh.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Yeah. He's in the club. Give me some Spencer Steer, baby. Does he tippy-toe? Baseball spikes. Picture next to Ellie. I think you're tippy-toeing. I think you're tippy-toeing.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I don't know, Guardians. I'm sorry. Reply to Chris Rose's Insta story. Former twin, Spencer Steer? Yeah. What else we got Bob Opeek? Hey guys, this is Jacob. I'm only called Jake by my best friend, born and primarily raised in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I'm a lifetime Giants fan. It's been a brutal year and pretty much every way you can think of for the G-Men. What I want from Buster Posey is, well, primarily a smart deadline. Be bold, but be smart. Trade Luis Sorias, Robbie Ray, Harrison, Bader, and Tyler, and Tyler Moll. at a minimum and probably shot Matt Chapman, Elliot Ramos, and John Hulay. We drafted a lot of pitching this year,
Starting point is 00:51:17 but that's still a pretty big need for the organization. So get some more pitching with above-average fastballs. What are your thoughts? I hope to see Trev coaching the French national baseball team at the next World Baseball Classic. And as always, Jake sucks. Wow. A lot of touch points right at the end.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah. You know, there was a French, Canadian TV show called Le Plu. Do the French respect you? Dude, I gotta go back and look exactly how French I am. Yeah. Yeah, I did the 23 of me.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I thought I was French. Turns out more Scottish, which is weird to me. Whoa. I have some Northern European, which would be of France. Yeah. We'll see. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:06 There it is. There's the... It's plu. Yeah. One, Tyler Maley, let's just go back to Texas where you were awesome last year. I think both teams just shake. Here's a 17-year-old that throws hard, move on. So the question was like all these guys are leaving.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Where should they go? I think it was more so just as a Giants fan. They sneaky have rental guys between a rise, between Bader. between Maylee, between Eric Miller and the pen, Robbie Ray, who I put on Toronto in the trade draft,
Starting point is 00:52:48 which I'm regretting, that I guess we've been caught up looking at their big ticket guys because there was rumors early this year they want to get off money, which is so funny, because we spent the past four years trying to get them on money.
Starting point is 00:53:02 They've been spending money, dude. They've been spending money. They brought in a lot with Devers. That I, I guess, yeah, I guess that was kind of a Giants fan saying, at a minimum, we got to move the rental guys. Like, we can't, you can't be a Giants fan on August 4th and have a handful of those guys still on the roster. Agreed. I don't know what else they're, they're dead in the water. They have to figure out exactly what the direction of this team is.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Do you kind of stand pat with all these guys that you have locked up for a while and just try to kind of add around them or do you try to get out of some of these contracts and and be a little bit more nimble right now they don't have a lot of room to operate because they are you know they do have some some big time money and some of these free agents they brought in so yeah it's they have to make decisions and to me I don't think you can just run it back with these guys I think we've made some mistakes maybe and you try to get out of some of this money and then kind of go. The whole Devers thing, I don't think you try to like trade him and eat the money. I think you got to work it out. Like he can be, he can be the bat that you need there. I think he just needs
Starting point is 00:54:23 to feel loved, appreciated, comfortable. And maybe he will never get there. I don't know. But I don't think that it's going to be easy. Number one, to get out of the contract. Number two, I think he is the type of bat that you need there if all things go well. But around him, I don't know. I could see some major, major shakeups of this roster, if not at the deadline in the off season. Man, I know OPS Plus is a stat. I reference a decent amount because it tries to bring in the ballpark factor.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And sometimes I think it gets overcooked. San Francisco, not an easy place to hit, especially if you're in kind of an inside out lefty power hitter, which that's Devers at his best. And there's a giant wall in right field, by the way. Devers with his 784 OPS is a 120 OPS plus. He's a career 128 OPS plus. And his career OPS is 850. So that's one of those things, man.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I do wonder something about him has been sad. I know this is going to sound a little dumb at its core. Rafi Devers at a hitter's park. Like, dude, if Rafi Devers was a fifth, Philadelphia, Philly? Like, what do you think his season stats would look like? A lot better. A lot better. Which makes you a lot happier. It makes you a lot happier. It does. And also being on like a winning baseball team. So I'm not, I'm not throwing out. He's got 20.
Starting point is 00:55:52 He's got 20 jacks. Like, he's got a path to 30 here. And, you know, we know about the 30 homers in San Francisco. Again, I think he's a guy that you look and say, look, okay, Bryce Eldridge, go play first base, and then sorry, like, nobody else is going to DH. It's those two guys, essentially. Or Devers, you're just going to have to dege for the foreseeable future. He's signed through 33. I know. I know. And that was the whole thing when this trade went down. They were like, the fact the Red Sox got anything back, blah, blah, I realized they kind of don't anymore from that trade. But, um, God, he's making so much money, Jake, 33 a year, and then at the end, 31 a year for the last three.
Starting point is 00:56:36 122 already. 225 still coming his way. That's good for around 350 mil. But this is my thing. And I guess I can add this to my like Pete Alonzo-ish theory or whatever it is. Rafi Devers got paid that money, one, because the Padres were thrown out a ton of money. And Zander Bogart's got signed to San Diego. which that that's part of just the truth of it.
Starting point is 00:57:02 The other thing is, dude, Rafi was one of the steadiest, most consistent hitters in baseball from 2021 through 2025. These are the OPSs by year, Coach Trev. 890, 879, 851, 871. Last year he landed at 851. It's really hard to be that good of a hitter
Starting point is 00:57:25 every year that I don't know, man. You wonder if there's a GM out there that's like, if we can get him out of San Francisco and they could eat $5 million a year, $8 million a year, something like that. Like, this dude, we've seen him when he's right, and he's just, he's elite. He can, there can be the best pitcher on the world on the mound in front of him, and he can still win that battle.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And there's not that many guys in baseball you can truly say that about. that I would love if a chain of scenery happens, but man, dude, some of the nasty phone calls they must have taken on Devers. It's like, yeah, if you eat 10 mil a year, we'll take them for free and you're like, fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Like, that's, you can't do that. I'm hanging on to this guy. Walk rates down a little bit this year. That's why the OPS is down. I think that that's something that will come back and normalize, in my opinion, especially with a guy of his talent, as he continues to get more and more kind of comfortable in his environment.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I think he keep him, man. I do. I think he is the bat that you can kind of rally around. Him and Eldridge, like two big fucking lefties. I love that. I know. I'm just, I'm going around, I'm basically going around hitter ballparks right now.
Starting point is 00:58:47 And every time I'm like, damn, Rafi. Again, this Dalt's right here and this isn't real, but like him as an Arizona Diamondback My God Dude will you stop My God Like I realize there's no reality there But it's where I like to live sometimes
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Starting point is 01:00:21 So I'm a big Yankees fan, and you guys know the issue we have a catcher. at third base. I want to get Cincinnati Reds on a call and get Tyler Stevenson and Spencer Steer. I don't know if you can put steer at second and put Chisholm at third possibly. But I love your show, guys.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Go! What was that? He dropped a goal on us? Oh, the Chris Rose goal. Oh, jeez. Signature. I like that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I'll hit you with some yanks quick. They need to get a catcher where I started the episode talking about with Stevenson. What the hell happened to Austin Wells? I don't know, man. I think with him and Volpe, the Yanx- Too many TikTok dances. No, not enough. Oh, maybe more.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yes. I think the Yankees didn't treat them fairly. I think they should have just treated them like normal young ballplayers. And, hey, maybe you got to ride the bus. Maybe you got to work on things and said the Yankees kind of did toxic positivity with them. Austin's also had some weird injuries. He's got a hand thing that, like, will never be fixed. And that goes back to last year.
Starting point is 01:01:39 He also had some, like, bad cervical headaches, which were a scary read that, I don't know. Maybe it's just a really tough sport, too. They're going to be in on a catcher. Third base, maybe I'm flying a little blind here. my guy Ryan McMahon last 35 games OPS is in the eights that I think the Yankees have bigger needs at catcher and some pitching needs than third base but you do have to answer the call if it's there
Starting point is 01:02:07 and now that I know Spencer Steers 5-9 oddly more in. Brewer's going to go get Spencer Steer Tyler Stevenson's interesting yeah throw his name in the hat for catchers the reds are going to sell he's a rental last 28 days since you like to break it up into that.
Starting point is 01:02:28 360 407, 560. So he's 3.45 in it for the 967. So he's up this trade value. Okay. Overall numbers on the year are just are fine. He's actually crushed, not crushed. He's hit right-handers much better than lefties this year, which is pretty interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:47 747 OPS against right-handers to a 583 against left-hand. What are they doing to you, Tyler? change pieces on the outside corner or what? This is a kind of a big baseball question that's been on my mind lately that I've wanted to ask you. For guys that you see, there's a year where they're hitting righties or they're hitting lefties and maybe it switches from their career numbers. Do you think it's, do you think that's small data samples? Do you think your swing, like, can change year over year that maybe where it lands that season?
Starting point is 01:03:23 you do better versus lefties or you do better versus righties. Like I guess what goes into the hitter math on that? Yeah, I mean, for his career, so we're talking to Tyler Stevenson right now, 789 against lefties and 746 against righties. Okay, much better hitter than I, like, gave him credit for. Interesting, he's had a lot of injury stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Career 758 OPS from the catcher's position, okay? Big boy, 6, 3, 2, 25. year to year it could just be like the lefties you're facing that year you might just face like good lefties
Starting point is 01:03:56 so like who's in his division you know Kyle Harrison's in his division I guess I'm blank on yeah there's not a ton of lefties in his division Matt Boyd
Starting point is 01:04:07 yeah he's got Ladolo on his team and there's not a lot of lefties no lefties on the pirates whatsoever so yeah honestly it could be some mechanical adjustment it could be
Starting point is 01:04:18 smaller sample size and just hey haven't really hit my homers against them or something like that. But unless you're, yeah, I mean, those are the two things it could be. Like something mechanically where maybe you're trying to pull more and that's been your goal. And really, like, you shouldn't be trying to pull lefties. If you're right-handed hitter, you got to be thinking about big part of the field against lefties. If in your mind, hey, I'm trying to lift the ball in the air to the pull side more, that could expose you against some lefties.
Starting point is 01:04:49 or like I said, the other reason would be I'm facing different guys who I just haven't had success against. Yeah, I guess I was going through Ahmed Rosario's numbers and he's been hitting Ritey's and not lefties recently, which his career is the opposite of that. But he was also, the Ritees he's been facing have been like kind of reverse split or bullpen, like in blowout games that has cooked the books a little bit.
Starting point is 01:05:15 But I don't know. I feel like you see that every year, and I wonder, Okay, what's that smile? I just brought me to something because you're talking about like, I don't know. I don't know why I thought of this. A couple guys who I respect both these guys. I want that on the record here.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Rick Honeycutt, who I met in L.A. for like the draft when I did that. All time baseball name. This guy like brought me in like I was his son, dude. He's like, get over here. One of those guys. He bought me a beer and just like. Love that. I couldn't believe how nice he was.
Starting point is 01:05:47 He was on the Cubs, the other night listening and they have and I don't want to mess his name up it's Lance Brzeowski he's on tough name you can be fair about that he's great I like following him very very knowledgeable he's a new age uh pitching guy which you see a lot of those right brosdowski like Lance bro that's I'm calling you Lance bro uh again phenomenal both of these guys. But it was really funny. They were talking about the same pitchers like Holloway, I believe is his name on the on the Cubs, low arm angle guy. So Lance is just talking about, well, you know, like when you get down here, like the induced vert and it goes over all the technical
Starting point is 01:06:40 terms and basically explaining, you know, like what he does and why it's nasty and just keeps going about all that. The spin, the arm angle. He's comparing him to another pitcher that was way up top and just talking about all these things. And Rick Honeycutt comes on. He's like, yeah, the deception is really what gets him going here. I'm like, that's two ways to say the exact same thing. It was like this crazy technical layout about the spin and the low arm angle and how the induced fur and all the stuff. And Honeycutt's like, yeah, he's deceptive. And it means the same thing. Yeah. And I think that's where we're at as a baseball society.
Starting point is 01:07:19 It's like, we're saying the same thing. But one group's just like, all right, like there's just, you don't need to really, really go into it. And one group's like, no, you really do need to go into it. And that's going to make you better. And I think both sides are right. Yeah. It's just we're able to put numbers on a fastball having ride now.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Like, that's what scouts used to look for. I remember, know who is a sneaky fast pitcher when I was learning baseball? Ted Lilly. Ted Lilly. Invisible. That was the name for it. Ted Lilly threw 92, but guys were always laid on his fastball because he kind of short...
Starting point is 01:07:51 I think his release was a little weird, and he had good ride. Like, now we know how to measure that between the way the ball spins and... Okay, so we landed here. Do you think there's anything else we need, Bobo? No. Okay. Good. I mean, what do we got? July 22nd. Trade deadlines on a Monday.
Starting point is 01:08:14 I guess future. future stuff that we figured out. We're gonna go live for it again. Do you know where I'll be live for the trade deadline? I don't, but I saw in our group chat you processing that, oh, fuck, the deadlines on a Monday.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Where are you gonna be? I will be. Last year, I think I was in New York at City Field, right? Ooh. Is that last year? Maybe. One of the years for sure.
Starting point is 01:08:42 No, I think I was here last year the year before that I was in because I was wearing my tux shirt last year when you guys got Camillo DeVal. Right. That's the... Thank God. I see that clip all the time.
Starting point is 01:08:53 People like that. I get it. I get it. I'm going to be in Joe Mower's office. Wow. That is Lakehouse. Hear that people? Joe Mowers Lakehouse.
Starting point is 01:09:12 And some people are calling him. Who's that twins prospect you compare to? Walker Jenkins. Some are calling him an old Walker Jenkins. Go look at Walker Jenkins numbers. That's great. Get him up real quick. Put him on the sheets so we can read him as we get out of here.
Starting point is 01:09:27 What happened to the Minnesota moose this year? He got banged up? He reverted. He made changes in the off season, lowering his leg kick. Didn't have initial success with it when he got into spring training. There's Walker. He's raking at AAA.
Starting point is 01:09:48 but kind of reverted back to his ways. What stadium is this? St. Paul St. Paul. Most homers in all of minor league baseball at that stadium, which is weird because the PCL exists, but Minnesota Moose is, it hasn't gone great for him this year. It's a tough game. Well, people, comment below.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Let us know what other trades your team has. Thank you guys for everyone who did call in. And if you got any more for us, let us know. but because it is the midweek, it's time to look at some future baseball markets presented by fanatic markets. Trev, we got a couple for the people tonight. And of course, if we have an opportunity to talk some Cater Montero and the Tigers as they take on Colin Ray and the Cubbies. A couple, little Centrale matchup tonight, Coach Trev. I keep thinking the Tigers have a better record than they do.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yeah. Right now, sitting seven games under 500. Five games back in the wild card. I do love Cater on the mound. And also, yeah, Colin Ray, two legendary talking baseball names. This series has been interesting. Cubs had a chance first game. Didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Then they steamrolled in the second game and a four-game set. So we will see what happens tonight. But I do like the pitching matchup. Man, Detroit needs to play well next week and a half. They have been, but they were so bad. They were so bad. win 14 a row. It's worked for Boston. The final one we're looking at tonight, it's my Marlins, your Astros.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Sandy Alcantara, Marlins have lost eight straight since I said I was confident they'll make the postseason. So that's tough on me. They are going against Houston and Peter Lambert, who's been fantastic this year? Sandy on the bump for the Marlins and he leads all of baseball and innings pitch is what he does and for a long time it was hey no we're keeping Sandy this eight game losing streak does that change things
Starting point is 01:11:58 I don't really know and yeah Peter Lambert he has been the most consistent starting pitcher on the Astros and if you had that coming into the season raise your hand and I'll call you a liar unless you're Peter Lambert Unless you're Peter Lamber. He knew.
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