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Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball.
We're less than two weeks from the trade deadline.
We're going through a bunch of potential deals.
Maybe we'll find something along the way.
Let's talk ball.
Aaron Seeley.
Aaron Judge.
I was trying to do this thing.
Oh, got a lead with the knob.
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I'm Jake Storeeally. That is Trevor Plouffe.
Dahlon Feeley's in studio today, getting the sheet together.
He's been on the road saving the Diamondback season.
Sorry about that.
Rob Chiracco is producing.
We got a lot of thoughts from a lot of people.
We got a ton of calls from people coming in with some different trades.
And we'll sort through it all between the starting pitching.
There's catchers.
If you've ever wanted a catcher, it feels like there's four guys.
good ones available, which I didn't, I've never seen that before.
There's shortstop talk and Yankee calls and I'm hoping we don't get to.
All of that and much more with the king.
You're having a hell of a 48 hours coach, Treve, a little beach, a little
Odyssey, a little God.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
I'm actually in this.
I'm in the Odyssey hole right now because if if you're out of the loop, it was filmed on a
special film.
Right.
meant for theaters that there's only 40 of them in the world.
Right.
Like 70 millimeter IMAX?
Yeah.
Nice.
So you just can't get tickets to it anywhere.
They're reselling for a thousand bucks in New York.
Can't get tickets to it, dude.
Go look.
Trevor Ploof.
That's how it works.
There's nobody like handling tickets.
It's like through Fandango.
Sheesh, bro.
Anyways, I'm going tonight.
So somehow.
you got tickets.
I got tickets to a regular 70 millimeter theater.
Because I thought that was the whole thing.
Oh, so it's not IMAX.
It's not IMAX.
I didn't know, dude.
I don't, you know, I like movies, but I don't know.
Apparently there's a Dolby version.
There's a laser.
I'm like, I don't know, man.
I thought I was getting the good ticket.
I was like, this is sweet.
Turns out I really wasn't, but it'll still be fun.
catchers.
Right.
Before we get into it.
Are there any catchers actually available?
Yes.
Or are they just good catchers who are like,
oh, that would be awesome on my team.
And if people are making this shit up.
Because your twins are a fool if they don't actually listen to Jeffers.
Okay.
So let's just call him.
Yeah.
He's a trade.
One.
Didn't the Orioles come out and say Adley,
they're listening on Adley or they're not like close to it?
1.4.
Then we say Gabriel Moreno.
We say Shailangelo.
I know you're the one that said,
you're the one that said Gabriel Moreno.
I do not have him on the table.
How is he any different than Hunter Goodman or Shailangeloers?
Like same thing.
I mean, the athletics came out and said that like Langleyers wasn't talking extension
at all saying they're a bad team that I think he is on the table.
Yeah, and he's a Boris guy.
And then Hunter Goodman.
I think he's the other one that's genuinely in the mix.
I think how good he is performing with his road numbers.
And the Rockies not having a timeline.
I think there's smoke there.
I just thought of something.
I just thought of something.
Everybody relax.
This is just fan fiction.
I like to do this from time to time if you don't know about this show.
We'll get into what we're supposed to talk about soon.
Don't worry about it.
Maybe.
Maybe.
pinstripes
what are they
what are pinstripes when you wear them
what do they do to your appearance
they lengthen your appearance
they slim you out a little bit right
you don't like a guy like me can't wear
horizontal stripes you go north and south
I gotta go north and south
congrats on your viral video by the way
thank you yeah I didn't know if I was turning my back
on the short king community
I consider myself a tiny staple
of that community that
Yeah, one of the most viral videos of the company this here, so whatever.
Whoops.
Whoopsy daisies.
Back to the fan fiction.
Yeah.
Out of the dugout walks this big figure and playing a long time.
Elongated by the pinstripes.
He wears an old school catcher's mask.
He's a statue guy.
Yeah.
His name is Sal Perez, to the Yanks.
It's not happening.
They just might name them Royals manager and just keep rolling the thing out there.
Sorry to Royals fans that had to hear that.
You know what?
Let's get into it.
We had a bunch of people call in and actually let's not get into it.
Because, Rob, can you show Chris Rose partying in Alaska?
Because we've set a tone for this episode.
There's the H is flying around.
There's a little F and F.
Chris Rose, wedding in Alaska on a Tuesday
and just letting it eat on the dance floor.
Phone out.
Beautiful wife, Michelle.
Looks like Chris Rose and a bunch of women.
Shocker.
Shocker.
Make sure you go follow him.
I texted our social team.
I want a Joe's McFly reaction video to that.
so hope Chris Rose is having fun in the Great North
and then I think he's straight from the Alaska wedding
I believe he's going to call the flag football national championship
or world championship because he's Chris fucking Rose
all right now that all that's out of our system
did you just see what he posted the day before I thought you were going for that
coach I heard about it I haven't seen it but I
he's too pure to understand understand the bowels of this
internet that we live on wild he posted feet right just his shoe which was ridiculous and then
michel's foot for the entire internet to have not to completely derail this before we get into the
first one because there's a lot of feet people out there and trev i i hate to turn the spotlight on
you but i believe there's been a couple times in this show's history where you've said you're not a
foot guy, but you're not, not a foot guy. I'm really not a foot guy. Like, there's no part of me
that's like, oh yeah, look at that foot. But like, if a nice foot is there, I don't know.
Sometimes a nice foot. Let's do some baseball. I'm married, dude. Yeah, that's great.
You can a feet for free. No, don't. Oh, look at those hooves. Oh, bottom's a little dirty.
Are they? It's a little bit. You walk around your, I've been walking around outside.
Oh, yeah.
It's grounding.
Touch grass one time.
Rob, play anything.
What up, y'all.
My name's Zach, first time, long time.
As an Atlanta Braves fans, it'd be very short and sweet.
We have to go get, like, a big name starting picture.
Like, I'm not one of these doom and gloom Atlanta fans.
Like, they're out there.
But for me, you got to go get a starting picture.
You got to, like, I'm not saying it has to be scoble
because I think that's just, like, asking AA for way too much.
But, like, these little value,
contracts and these like working with what you got in the minor leagues is not going to
get us there like the bats are doing well but like good lord we we you got to give the fans
one big name at this point so that's what i got got to go after starting 15 you got to get a
big name like high leverage someone to replace strider you know what i'm saying anyways
love it all the best coach treff the alana brave so i feel like we we didn't
get them well in our trade draft.
I mean, A, there's a lot of stuff going on.
And as I talk about Chris Rose and him letting it eat on Instagram,
just maybe an all-time performance at this company during our trade draft.
But the Atlanta Braves, they're definitely going to be in the mix.
I guess where I get thrown off with Atlanta is, like,
I'm going through some of their injuries right now.
And like, are they going to get any starting pitchers back?
I'm not seeing a ton of help.
on the way. Like Martin Perez, your guy is rehabbing. I guess do you think they need like the high
level playoff guy? Do you think they need innings? Like what do you see? Yeah, look, I don't think we talk
a lot about this core and kind of it aging out because they are still pretty young, but they do
have a, you know, the position player core that you want to capitalize on essentially. We've got
2021. That was a beautiful thing. I share that with Braves fans.
almost every single day.
Yeah.
And I'm lucky for that.
I'm, yeah, I mean, I get it.
Do I think they have to have a starter?
I'm not so sure they have to have one.
Rinaldo Lopez back in the starting rotation.
That obviously helps.
Cookie Carasco, just bring up from Gwinnett a few different times.
But if they really want to make a deep player, I'm with this guy.
Yeah.
What was his name?
Zach.
Zach, I'm with you, Zach.
I think there's actually going to be
maybe more starting pitching out there than we think
and I know that the Mets and Mets fans
are saying we need to extend this guy
but a Clay Holmes would look real, real nice
down there in Atlanta.
So I could see something like that happening
because there are a lot of the pitchers available
are rentals.
So they're not going to cost a ton.
And maybe that's not what AAA wants.
Maybe he wants a controllable guy.
But if you wanted to go out and get a guy that's a rental,
you got options, man.
You got Kevin Gospin.
How about you return him?
You're a brave again.
The Blue Jays, have you looked at their record?
Have you seen where they're at?
Have you seen what their offense looks like?
I think he is on the block.
He's a rental.
You got Casey Mize, depending on what the Tigers end of.
of doing. He's a rental.
And then like I said, I think Clay Holmes is a really, really good option for them,
a guy who I think is a good playoff pitcher because of the fact he keeps the ball on the
ground. Now, he's coming off. I think he broke his ankle, right? So he's making one rehab start
and then coming back to the big league. So you're just expecting him to kind of pick up where he
left off. But I think he fits really well.
if not him, somebody, I do agree with Zach.
Yeah, the Braves, Braves have had a weird kind of leading up to the All-Star break.
I think if you start on June 9th, they were losing a lot of baseball games from 45 and 22 to 54 and 40.
That was a lot of losing in Atlanta.
They've come out of the break decent.
And I guess I kind of didn't have them in this book, book boat.
They need playoff in it.
Like if you look at like, okay, how are they going to navigate two, three rounds or a whole series?
I guess mentally I didn't have them in that lane.
And I think you're right.
And I know we mentioned a couple nice Southern boys there.
I think Dalt just threw some redetmers in the sheet.
That's a guy that we've talked about.
The angels don't trade anybody.
I know.
I know.
But maybe they do.
They just got a new front office.
But I'd, yeah, I guess interesting.
that the Braves are going to make an impact move.
And I think it probably starts with starter.
Yeah, I think I think that's where they go.
Again, you got to find a match.
You got to compete with other teams because everyone's looking for starting pitching.
I do think that if I'm the Seattle Mariners,
I look to swap out one of my starting pitchers for some offensive help.
So I think they're in the mix too,
and I don't know if a lot of people have them doing that.
I think they're another team that will be willing to give up
one of their major league starters ready to go for a major league bat.
And those are the trades I love.
I hate prospect trades.
Give me the freaking your best or your strength for my strength.
That's what I want.
There was a,
I was going through some different trade articles.
I believe it was Jim Bowden of,
the athletic and had a George Kirby for Casey Schmidt deal that Schmit's got more years.
Kirby, I would be a little surprised if that's how the Mariners traded away their starting pitching value.
I mean, Casey doesn't necessarily do it.
But if he has fully broken out into this, it would be interesting.
But for me, that I feel if I'm a Mariners fan in this starting pitch,
depth we've ranted and raved about for years.
If that's how we're cashing in a chip, I don't know.
I think they'd want more than that.
Well, they have like two of the top prospects in the game that are just right there.
I'd ever really thought about Casey Schmidt to the Mariners.
How old is Casey Smith?
It's like 26, 27?
27, I believe.
I don't hate it for them.
Who's starting every day at third base for them?
JP, our guy?
So JP has slid over.
I know Emerson's been around.
I mean, they traded for Donovan, but he's been heard.
And that's what in the article, they were saying,
the other thing is Schmidt plays all over that he can, you know,
they've had some first base struggles.
They've had a lot that, and they've been looking for righty pop.
So many teams looking for righty pop that I don't, I don't know,
the Giants are trying to move a lot.
We're getting derailed a little bit.
Good.
But they've been watching the Mariners last couple of nights.
Cal Raleigh, obviously Big Homer.
Yeah.
Right in Caleb Ferguson's face.
Well, that's, that's karma, man.
You say those things about Bill Miller.
You know what?
Well, that was after.
He said that after.
He was mad about giving the homer up.
Naylor had three hits last night.
So like this, like I want this freaking, I want those two guys to get going.
Cal, I texted the group chat last night.
I was watching Cal with a really, really good at bat, worked the count bat.
I don't, whatever.
We're getting sidebarred.
The Mariners do need offensive help.
And I don't mind that trade.
I don't know how we got there.
but Dalton what did I just see you do?
Did you just mix two energy drinks?
Yes.
This is what I was hoping for.
Cheese and biscuits.
Dalton, get on the mic real quick.
Get Dalcam going.
We need Dalcam.
I sent you those Instagram for reasons.
Oh, that's right.
I need you to start posting videos of you making the working man's
cocktail. So what we have here is a watermelon cream soda energy drink. That's all I got for you.
No protein. You mixed cream soda and watermelon together. Oh no. It's a cream soda energy drink and a
watermelon energy drink. And you mixed them. What inspired this? Uh, the dirty soda fad. I feel like
it's getting back. I was like, oh, we could try this with energy drinks. We just, now you need some
like electrolytes in there too. Okay. We got electrolytes. We got everything. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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Braves, need impact pitching.
I'm sure we're going to talk about some more impact pitchers.
We've got a couple of twins ones on here.
I guess let's do it.
Hey, so this is Tratton from Iowa.
I'm a twins fan.
Especially after the loss today, Cleveland,
I feel like that the twins should either sell
or they should try to build for next year.
One point of emphasis is should they keep Joel Ryan?
I think they should, especially for Pablo Lopez coming back next year.
I think that's going to add some death to that rotation.
Ryan Jeffers, more than likely going to be traded.
I could be fine with him getting traded.
But yeah, just try to build for next year is what I would like to see the twins do,
especially adding some arms in the bullpen for next year
and a couple arms in the rotation as well.
Treb, these are your boys.
Look, it's just, we're in such a weird spot as a franchise.
I've mentioned this plenty of times throughout our show this year.
Like, Tom Polet taking over, wanting to earn the fans' trust back,
really, you know, makes this trade deadline different.
If this was Tom's third or fourth year in control and he had the trust of,
the Polet family had the trust of the people,
I think they do approach this different.
I think for sure Jeffers is traded.
I think they heavily consider trading Joe Ryan.
But unless this team continues what they've done after the break,
which is just lose.
They won the first game out
and they lost four in a row.
And if they end up
in the next two weeks
just playing abysmally,
then I can see it working out differently.
But if they're in the hunt whatsoever,
two games back of a wild card,
they're not going to be trading
because he doesn't want to lose more fans.
He's trying to gain them back.
Now, the only one I will say
that I continue to flip-flop on
is Ryan Jeffers.
They drafted two catchers.
with their first two picks this year.
Von Lacky, who's, you know,
they think is
a couple years away.
Right.
Like they, if you're drafting,
with where the MLB drafts gone,
if you draft a kid like that
with the third pick,
you expect to see him in about two years,
which is nuts,
but good.
You know, so I think that
Jeffers is an interesting candidate.
He's a Boris guy.
I don't know what kind of extension
he's looking for or like,
what his deal in free agency would be
because I do think if they twins could sign
it'd be a smart sign
bridge that gap
you know if it's a if it's a three year deal
two year deal whatever it would be I think he's
gonna look for more than that and free agency
though I don't know if I don't know the catcher
market enough to really
settle down and say
hey twins offer him this and he'll accept it
again Boris guy I just
I don't think that's going to happen I think we're
too far away from that
so he's the one guy I could see
happening. The rest of them, you know,
Dalt's got Josh Bell on her sheet right now.
He's just,
they won't do it because the return won't be good
enough to replace kind of like what
he's done for the clubhouse.
All they talk about is Josh Bell
and how good he's been for everybody,
but specifically Byron Buxton.
So I don't think he's going anywhere. I don't think Joe
Ryan's going anywhere with a caveat
of if they just lose.
Right. Then
maybe it changes.
And then the fan base is like, okay, this is the right
thing to do. But if they're in contention whatsoever, I think Jeffers is pretty much the only guy
who they would consider trading. Yeah, I think you got to cash in that chip, man. I think the Jeffers,
like, you bring up his page. And again, it's, it's impressive in a way, but it's also like there's
a little bit of a head tilt. Because if you do the last four years, I mean, he's done kind of
nothing but produce, uh, but there's some limited action in there. Well, yeah, they were, they were
platooning him.
Right.
I don't know why.
And actually, like, dude, every catcher, like, if you play 120 games as a catcher, you're,
that's kind of today's everyday catcher outside of Cal Raleigh last year and Salvi.
But in the way he's playing right now, man, that I realize prospects are suspects,
uh, that's, I don't know if that's a Joe's Mcfly original.
I believe in it.
But also, I mean, dude, there's so many times, like we, Fernando Tatees,
show hey not being traded.
Like, if you're the twins and you can get a guy, which I think you can,
like for the way Ryan Jeffers is producing right now, like 941 OPS, again,
that's not his player card.
But also we see a lot of catchers.
Sometimes it takes a couple years for the light bulb to go on.
And if you look at Jeffers, and I don't know if that's managing the pitching staff,
along with all your other responsibilities, dude, he's a guy that is going to be taken care of.
with his next contract, whether that's the twins or free agency,
because he's putting up numbers that I think if you do that daydream of like,
if this guy lands on the right team in the right environment, he can produce.
I think they're going to get offers that I think you can get like a real prospect
and then probably like a relief pitcher prospect, which Trev,
when you've talked about the twins this year, some of the guys coming out of that bullpen
because they traded away a whole complete bullpen.
Like, I just don't know if the twins have a 500-ish second half.
I don't know how many fans that's retaining or not offending.
Like, I think the real Minnesota Twins fans, you know, my tribe,
they want to see the team win.
And I, this year's team doesn't reek of that.
It has, though.
I mean, they've been within a playoff spot almost the entire.
entire year. The offense has been really, really good for them. You know, I think we never got
the full run of this team. Pablo Lopez going out. That really hurts. Love him. I think they're
going to give it a go again next year with these guys. We have a couple, we have a couple of bats
at the AAA level that are supposed to be incredible. Walker Jenkins is a guy who are like, people,
people are comparing him to like a Joe Maurer S. Kidder.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
He saved a kid's life on the field or something like that.
In a AAA game, that's a true story.
Okay.
I'm just telling you what I have seen and heard around the twins.
I'm an expert, people.
I think Jeffers is the one guy that they are looking,
they would consider moving.
It has any sort of like real.
like value to the franchise.
Juice.
Juice.
Juice is a good word.
Okay.
Let's keep it cooking.
Hey, big Brewers fan talking baseball
and I want to see
the Brewers add some
bat to the lineup.
I'm thinking maybe a Taylor Ward,
maybe an ESSach Paredes.
Is Mickey Moniac
available? I know this is in division
but Matt Shaw, we look
really good in a brewer's uniform.
And then I'd like to see some pitching.
Casey Mize would be fantastic.
Maybe a bullpen arm.
I don't think the Brewers will get any of them because that's not the way we do business.
But it's sure, any one of those guys would make me a very happy Brewers fan.
And we've got a lot to deal.
Andrew Vaughn can go.
Logan Henderson can go.
I don't know. Don't want to get swept in the NLCS.
Bye-bye. Thank you talking baseball.
Thank you. Thank you.
Our brewers, Trev, I feel like we've gotten ourselves excited in a lot of previous years,
and we daydream of that middle of the lineup bat.
I don't know how much we need to daydream, because before last night's games,
they had the best record in baseball, and we've talked about them trending up.
I mean, one, I think they're always looking for pitching.
I mean, Lance McCullors currently listed in that bullpen.
Let's see what goes on there.
That if they think they can find someone they can tap into,
I think that's just the brewers doing business,
whether it's the trade deadline or not.
The bat, I don't know.
You and I both did kind of that Esauk Paredes head tilt.
Like, he's got a little brewers in them, like straight pull power.
He could play a few positions.
Like, we could, could he be in,
somewhat impactful. I just don't think the Brewers think that way. I think they're rolling
that I like our caller ended the question. I just don't, I don't see it like that.
It's interesting. I like the offensive ad more than anything else for the Brewers.
I think that, you know, I'd be okay with going to the playoffs with their pitching staff the way it is.
Taylor Ward's an interesting one for me because I haven't really thought about him going to the Brewer.
Freelick got some shoulder stuff. They ended up putting him on the IL. So there's your right
field replacement right there. Or you move to Urio over to right field and put Taylor Warden left,
whatever you want to do. I could see that happening. Rental wouldn't cost a ton. There is
going to be competition for this guy. But that's that's an interesting one to me. And I guess,
again, I never really had gotten into it just because, you know, I know, I know Sal hasn't done a
great this year offensively,
but he's just kind of been
one of their guys. But with him
hurt now, it opens up the potential
for this. So the Taylor Ward one made me kind of like
head tilt a little bit. Issaq Paredes
swapping out what, Joey Ortiz
for him?
Yeah, I mean, Ortiz. Actually, I don't, I don't mind
either of those, if we're being honest.
I would
think if you are the Brewers Front
Office and you're saying, how do we
improve this? You look
at everything. They're starting pitching his first
in ERA, their bullpen numbers are good.
Their offensive numbers are good. You need homers, coach.
They're last in home runs.
You know, every year, I mean, the brewers who are one of, if not recognized as the
smartest team in baseball these days for the way they're performing, they have to be
looking at that and being a little worried because every year we get to the postseason
and the postseason home run stats come out. And if you out home or your team in the
postseason, you win 90% of the games or whatever it is that the brewers have to be looking
at that with a little bit of how are we going to do this?
I would think they're sourcing some power bats, whether that's Perretta's,
whether a guy like Joe Adele, if we're looking in the outfield.
I wonder who else is a...
Casey Schmidt's got some brewers to him if he's available.
Gosh, that's such a brewer.
Casey Schmidt's got a lot of beer in him.
He can play third. He can play left.
I don't know. I guess pitching-wise, I almost shrug like I did to
start. If the brewers trade for a pitcher, just watch, watch out.
But yeah.
What about Casey Smith's arch rival?
My good friend, Matthew Chapman.
It's a lot of, there's some money tied to that.
There's some money, but I think the giants are looking to get rid of like a lot of money,
dude.
I think they're trying to get out of everything.
Money talks.
So if the giants are willing to dance a little bit with that, because I don't, I don't think.
It's not that much, dude.
it's 25
It isn't it isn't man
I mean think about the CBA
and the Milwaukee conversations
We're gonna have coming up
Like think about
Think about what they think they can get
From Joey Ortiz
At no money
Compared to Matthew Chapman
At a lot of money
That I don't
Say they get it down to 15 a year
I'd answer the call
Elite Defender still
Still
Righty pop
Dirty Pop
I like the Casey Schmidt.
I like it all.
I like it all.
I want the Brewers to add, I guess, is the whole gist of it.
Like, come on.
And we do this every year.
And then the deadline happens and we're like, oh, well.
It's not true.
They got Andrew Vaughn.
Was that a waiver claim last year?
That was, I think that was the, that was early.
I think that was the White Sox offering like a peace offering, like teach us something.
And we'll give you Andrew Vaughn.
Yeah, no, they were done with them.
I want to look up exactly one.
That happened.
June 13th for Savali and cash considerations.
Oh my gosh.
What a fucking,
what a fucking deal.
Savale's on the Cubs.
I don't see the Matt Shaw Cubs spruers trade happening.
Although I would love, again,
to be a fly on the wall of like these real actual GM conversations.
Like, do the Brewers and Cubs even talk?
Hey, hey, Matt Shaw for Bobby Gasser, huh?
What do you think?
Royce Lewis to the Brewers.
doors. Okay. He already looks like Ryan Braun in the box. Next call. Ryan Braun. How's
Hey guys. How's it going? Tyler Ross, big Texas Rangers fan here. We need to bring Shea Langaleers back to Texas.
The boys from, you know, went to Waco, had some time with the Baylor Bears. He's a Texas native.
I know he's got some ties to to the Mets because his name is Shea and Shea Stadium.
But at the end of the day, we need young and consistent at the Rangers right now.
And he checks both of those boxes for us.
I love Kyle Higashiyoka.
I love Elias.
I even have a soft spot for Danny Jansen.
But at the end of the day, we need young and consistent.
And I think Shay checks both of those boxes for us.
Thanks for your time.
Travis, A, I love a local connection.
I was going to say something with the Braves before because all those Southern.
pitchers they got thrown out. Clay Holmes, Casey Mize, getting them in that with those Atlanta Braves,
pitch a little, go hunting. Shea Lang Lears, I'm laughing internally because my Yankees have been
struggling with the catcher position this year, that the Texas Rangers were one of the teams we've
been looking at because when their guys are healthy, they have Higashioka, who still plays a
role in this league. Danny Jansen, who's a pretty solid baseball page when you bring it up.
especially thinking about the catcher position,
and Elias Diaz, who had some stretches this year,
I know the Yankees were looking at their catchers being like,
we want those guys.
So I like that Texas Ranger fans are like,
if someone like Langaleers is available, bring him to us,
now we can flip those other guys over to the Yanks.
That's where your head goes.
My head goes to, I don't know if that's what you need, Pop.
I'm looking at these box scores over the last few games.
since the break
they've given up 15 runs
six runs
eight runs and 10 runs
you're going to come over
you're going to try to out
outbang everybody else
bangaliers on everybody else
I don't know if that's what we need
I think
pay a little respect to the
nice sure but we can't be giving up runs
like this
the first place Texas Rangers
they are in first place
by a half of game
I believe over the Mariners
yeah that's an interesting
one to me. I'd go elsewhere
if I was the Rangers. Some
run prevention would be nice. Let me
get up on the season. I actually haven't
even looked at this. Most teams I know kind of
off the top of my head where they're at. The Rangers
I don't know.
Run prevention.
Decent OAA.
It looks like DRS isn't the biggest fan.
Middle of the packish. I was just
going more like runs
for, you know, given up as
a team. It's been
tough for them as of late.
I have questions for Jimmy Norp after this.
I'm doing baseball today with him.
And one of the questions I have, Dahl, you'll love this,
is Texas Rangers snakes, who you got rest of the season,
if you had to pick one team.
There are two teams.
I can't figure out.
I watched them play.
I called games for both of these teams.
They're flawed in a lot of different ways,
but they can also go on runs.
Like, you know, look, the Rangers need Corey Seeger.
No doubt about that.
sometimes their offense looks great
sometimes it goes completely silent
sometimes their pitching looks great
sometimes it doesn't it's like
they just
I think he even said
the consistency of this team is just
I believe they've only had
one winning month out of the year
the Texas Rangers
and they're sitting one game of a 500
it's an interesting thing I don't know
I can't put my finger on the Rangers
in exactly what they need
I would say some bullpen help
would probably be the number one thing
I would start with and a healthy Corey Seeger?
Their health has been off all year.
Yeah, their first place in the West.
So do with that what you want.
I think they're going to be involved heavily.
I don't think it's a catcher.
There's also aside to this,
there's some baseball people that are like,
you don't trade for a catcher,
mid-year. Like between working with the pitchers and, like, just messing with that side of the
ball, they say it's really hard on the catcher, it's really hard on the pitcher.
But I think if you're the Texas Rangers, I think you're right. I think there's a lot of
other stuff going on that...
Give me a right-hand right out of the pen. Sure.
All-star, Jacob Lats. Put some respect on his name.
You looked good on the red carpet.
Handsome. He is a handsome guy.
A handsome guy.
Fucker.
Sorry, that's, I didn't mean to say that.
Whoa.
That was a lot.
Whoa.
Okay.
You see what White Langford's been doing, though?
See what my guy, Jack Peterson's doing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thickles, there's such a, there's, answer the question.
Snakes or Rangers?
Yeah.
Texas.
You've been a Rangers guy.
I've always thought they've been dangerous.
If they hit the playoffs healthy and you're, you're staring down to Grom of
all the Gour and.
and they're throwing the pill well.
Like, how about those young guys?
We talk about starters kicking to the bullpen.
Like, could a Kumar or Jack Lider find it for a month
in a two-winning roll or stuff?
Look at Roki last year, dude.
Rokey was a horrible starter.
He went to the pen.
Apparently, that guy's adrenaline glands are fucked
because he threw every pitch at 105 against the Yankees.
He's like, chill out, Rokey.
It's a regular season game, dog.
He hates the Yankees.
He hates the Yankees.
Just like a good American should.
Yeah.
Hey, listen.
Right.
What was I going to say?
What were you going to say?
Texas.
Oh, if I told you this.
Okay.
Think about the 2024 Rangers.
Not 2023.
Not 2023.
2024.
Yeah.
Okay.
Remember what happened.
If I was going to say, hey, one team this year that reminds you of the 2024 Rangers,
this is an easy one.
The 24 Rangers?
Like the underachieving horrific offense?
Dalt says he's got it
It's easy
The Toronto Blue Jays
Yes
Okay
World Series
Coming off the World Series
Yeah
I like that
I mean they won the World Series
Good for the Rangers
But sorry Dalt
To bring that one up
But
Offense
Well there
I mean I don't
Their offense is not as bad as the Blue Jays
I say you would
I think there's going to be a bidding war
Between
the Texas Rangers
and the Tampa Bay Devil Rays for Luis Arise.
Because right now I'm seeing Nikki Lopez picking it at second for Texas,
and no offense to Nikki Lopez.
But either the Texas Rangers having the start of-
Put some respect on Foskew's name.
You know, I love Foskew and forget you too, dude.
But, like, Luisa Rize in the top of that Texas lineup or Tampa,
dude, if Tampa opens up a game going,
You got a rise and a randa from the left side.
You get Yondi and Cominero from the right side.
He's a ray.
That's gnarly.
That's gnarly.
Arise is a ray.
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Hello, Jacob and Trevathy. I'm going to talk about what I want the Dodgers to do.
I know some fans are shouting chair school from soapboxes, but I would argue that those fans
are not real ball knowers. And real ball knowers want one player, one pitcher specifically,
and that pitcher is Joe Ryan. Sorry about it. But if we're moving on for my dream,
they need catching help because Dalton rushing
can't be the primary catcher.
I think they will get starting help.
Probably not Joe Ryan,
and they will need a catcher
to split the responsibilities with rush.
Maybe Ryan Jeffers
to ruin Yankees' fans' dreams.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
Wow. Okay.
That was a lot to both of us.
I'll let you go for it.
There's some theatrics involved there.
So, yeah, I mean,
they moved Will Smith to the 60-day,
I.
What does that mean?
He's got the neck injury.
He's been on the IL since June 8th.
So I don't think that's that big of a deal that they moved into the 60 day because he's already like, so he can return the 7th, August 7th.
Yeah.
And I mean, a lot of teams, you can juggle 40 man space that way.
Sure.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He wasn't going to come back before the 7th anyway.
So I don't think this is huge news that they moved into the 60 day.
I don't think he's had a setback.
but it has been a slow to progress, I guess is a way to put it.
Do they need catching help?
I mean, I personally don't see that.
I mean, I think the Dodgers are playing for one thing.
It's October.
I think Will Smith is still hoping to come back in August
that Will Smith and Dalton rushing would probably be the top catching unit in baseball
that I don't think you just add another catcher to that mix
when both of those guys can be there however long they want to be there.
Again, the Dodgers can do whatever they want,
but I don't think it starts there at all.
Alfonso last night not hustling around the bases.
I don't know if you saw that.
I have not.
He's another one of their catchers.
Right.
510-155 listed.
That's like a high school kid.
There's no way that's true.
That feels old.
Yeah.
he show it's a ball kind of in the gap
Derek Hill obviously out there and
center field for Philly's making fucking plays
here it is
show hey probably I don't know if he needs to go to second here
but look at this he's jogging in
they initially call him safe
but he's out and then Alfonso does not
score before that Dodgers win anyway
on this one but
anyway so I don't know why I'm talking about that
We're talking about backup catchers here a little bit.
He slipped, but that doesn't mean anything.
He wasn't running hard.
Catching help, don't know if that's exactly what they need.
Do I think they're going to be in on starting pitching?
I do.
Is that like a necessary thing for the Dodgers?
No, because, you know, we're going to get a glass now.
We're going to get a snellback at some point.
I'm still assuming that.
But they're the one team you got to look out for.
They can go land scoobble, man.
There's a chance they're just quiet.
Like I know we've...
No, no, that's not how they do business.
No, I think they're going to make a huge play for Scoobel
because the tigers, I think, would let him go
if they got another start, a controllable starter back,
a big league starter.
She and her Robleski, I feel like those are the two.
Yes, plus some prospects, which the Dodgers have a zillion.
They're outfield prospects.
They think they're the most dangerous team
Two-land scoobble, right now.
Which is, you know,
I don't know if I want that for the state of the game.
It would be interesting.
The Dodgers need to kind of maybe need to lay on their sword
for the good of the game.
No.
Fuck that.
I'll stand up for my Dodger brother and that do not want me.
I'm just, guys, I'm kidding.
You can get scoble.
I don't know if Detroit's selling.
Like, I, yeah.
They could do that thing, Jake.
could do that thing. It's true. If they get a major league starter back, they can very easily
tell their fan base, like, hey, he wasn't coming back. We still got a chance this season.
Yeah, I mean, the Dodgers, you have to figure they're going to throw the kitchen sink at
Scoobble because they can. Yeah, it's going to be a lot of eyes on Detroit. And will the Braves get
involved? Like, well, like the sick-o-filly's, Dumbrowski, snake in the grass. They don't have,
they don't have it.
Dude, if they could open up a playoff series,
Sanchez, Scubel, Wheeler?
They don't have the chips.
Baby Jesus Lizard.
They don't have the chips to go get them.
Take Justin Crawford, take Aiden Miller,
take Andrew Painter.
Fuck it, we ball, bro.
I don't think that's enough.
I think that's enough.
My front office.
Maybe I just don't even know
what those guys really mean.
Let's do more.
Let's do more.
Joe, oh, actually.
I'm a Cleveland.
I was going to talk about Joe Ryan, but that's kind of, we can't lose the final 20 minutes to that.
He's handsome.
He's good.
I'm a Cleveland Indian fan or Cleveland Guardian fan.
And so I know that we aren't really likely to get anybody big, like Jordan Alvarez or anything,
but we really do need to get both right-handed power, and we either need to fix up the first base position and also get another outfielder.
Those are our biggest two holes.
So I think that those can be best filled by getting Taylor Ward, who is a rental on the Orioles.
So that should not be too terribly difficult.
Or Elliot Ramos or Spencer Speer.
Both of those, I believe, would be more difficult because they're not pre-agents until 2030, I believe.
And they at least still have some club control for a couple years on them.
But I think that they would serve better if we were able to get either of those two as well.
So I would like to see Taylor Ward and either Spencer Steer or Elliot Ramos.
I just had a really funny thought.
Please.
And what if the Guardians trader for Luis Arise and just start?
They just collect small left-handed hitters.
It's Chris Rose's.
That's Chris Rose's thing, right?
It's a different battle to get through if Kwan is back and arise.
I mean, obviously.
I deal a lot.
They're in my division.
I have to listen to Chris Rose
talk about them a lot.
They've been searching for a right-handed
outfield bat for,
I don't know,
a decade,
essentially.
We interviewed Roger Davis,
famous 2016 Homer against Rallis Chapman.
And I said,
I said,
Roger,
you'd like the last good,
right-handed hitter that the guardians have had.
And Chris Rose laughed.
He's like,
shit, maybe,
maybe that might be right.
So Taylor Ward makes sense,
but again,
I think there's going to be a lot of suiters.
for this guy.
Under the radar
candidates,
I think you steer.
The reds are going to trade.
He's kind of having a little bit of a resurgent year.
He's a guy that can kind of play
everywhere if you need him to as well.
So versatility is there.
Right-handed bat.
Under control for a couple more years, I believe.
So it's not just this year.
It's like 27, 28 under control.
He can play first.
He can kind of play the outfield if you need him to.
There's all sorts of things he can do.
I think that's an interesting kind of target for them.
Yeah, I'm, I don't know.
I just, if I'm the Guardians,
I don't know what Spencer Steer does for me.
The splits are big.
Like lefties, he maulsed.
He won dots against lefties,
but that means he's a 657 OPS versus righties.
So, like, depending their potential playoff matchup,
Hey, the Guardians do operate this way, and it's part of what frustrates Chris Rose.
And it's kind of a part of baseball that's getting thrown out.
Like, a lot of these smaller market teams are like, why don't I get,
if I can have two guys on my roster, one platoons against lefties,
one platoons against righties, like that's how we could stack our lineup.
You could pinch hit later.
I just, for the Guardians, I don't know what this is.
Honestly, as I'm looking at his profile, I mean, this is almost,
this is like Casey Schmidt Light.
that like if I was the Mariners
and I'm looking for someone to add to our mix
that can change our versus lefties stuff
maybe it's someone like that
but Spencer Steer
I don't
I don't know what it changes
I mean
it's
it helps them against lefties
yeah and the problem is
the problem truly is
is that every single team
is looking for a guy that
hits lefties or is a right-handed bat
Yeah. I've got a three, actually four Spencer Steer Fun Facts.
Interesting.
Last one that just snuck in. Middle name Gordon.
Okay. That's fine.
I know a guy named Spencer Gordon.
Look at that. Five fun facts.
From Long Beach, California.
Milliken High, yeah.
That's just normal, normal stuff.
University of Oregon go ducks. Didn't have that for Spencer.
Thanks.
Spencer Steer height.
5-11.
5-9.
Oh.
Yeah.
He's in the club.
Give me some Spencer Steer, baby.
Does he tippy-toe?
Baseball spikes.
Picture next to Ellie.
I think you're tippy-toeing.
I think you're tippy-toeing.
I don't know, Guardians.
I'm sorry.
Reply to Chris Rose's Insta story.
Former twin, Spencer Steer?
Yeah.
What else we got Bob Opeek?
Hey guys, this is Jacob.
I'm only called Jake by my best friend, born and primarily raised in the San Francisco Bay Area.
I'm a lifetime Giants fan.
It's been a brutal year and pretty much every way you can think of for the G-Men.
What I want from Buster Posey is, well, primarily a smart deadline.
Be bold, but be smart.
Trade Luis Sorias, Robbie Ray, Harrison, Bader, and Tyler, and Tyler Moll.
at a minimum and probably shot Matt Chapman,
Elliot Ramos, and John Hulay.
We drafted a lot of pitching this year,
but that's still a pretty big need for the organization.
So get some more pitching with above-average fastballs.
What are your thoughts?
I hope to see Trev coaching the French national baseball team
at the next World Baseball Classic.
And as always, Jake sucks.
Wow.
A lot of touch points right at the end.
Yeah.
You know, there was a French,
Canadian TV show called Le Plu.
Do the French respect you?
Dude, I gotta go back and look
exactly how French I am.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did the 23 of me.
I thought I was French.
Turns out more Scottish,
which is weird to me.
Whoa.
I have some Northern European,
which would be of France.
Yeah.
We'll see. I don't know.
There it is.
There's the...
It's plu.
Yeah.
One, Tyler Maley, let's just go back to Texas where you were awesome last year.
I think both teams just shake.
Here's a 17-year-old that throws hard, move on.
So the question was like all these guys are leaving.
Where should they go?
I think it was more so just as a Giants fan.
They sneaky have rental guys between a rise, between Bader.
between
Maylee,
between Eric Miller and the pen,
Robbie Ray,
who I put on Toronto in the trade draft,
which I'm regretting,
that I guess we've been caught up
looking at their big ticket guys
because there was rumors early this year
they want to get off money,
which is so funny,
because we spent the past four years
trying to get them on money.
They've been spending money, dude.
They've been spending money.
They brought in a lot with Devers.
That I,
I guess, yeah, I guess that was kind of a Giants fan saying, at a minimum, we got to move the rental guys.
Like, we can't, you can't be a Giants fan on August 4th and have a handful of those guys still on the roster.
Agreed. I don't know what else they're, they're dead in the water.
They have to figure out exactly what the direction of this team is.
Do you kind of stand pat with all these guys that you have locked up for a while and just try to kind of
add around them or do you try to get out of some of these contracts and and be a little bit more
nimble right now they don't have a lot of room to operate because they are you know they do have
some some big time money and some of these free agents they brought in so yeah it's they have to
make decisions and to me I don't think you can just run it back with these guys I think we've
made some mistakes maybe and you try to get out of some of this money and then kind of
go. The whole Devers thing, I don't think you try to like trade him and eat the money. I think
you got to work it out. Like he can be, he can be the bat that you need there. I think he just needs
to feel loved, appreciated, comfortable. And maybe he will never get there. I don't know. But I don't
think that it's going to be easy. Number one, to get out of the contract. Number two, I think he is the
type of bat that you need there if all things go well.
But around him, I don't know.
I could see some major, major shakeups of this roster, if not at the deadline in the
off season.
Man, I know OPS Plus is a stat.
I reference a decent amount because it tries to bring in the ballpark factor.
And sometimes I think it gets overcooked.
San Francisco, not an easy place to hit, especially if you're in kind of an inside
out lefty power hitter, which that's Devers at his best.
And there's a giant wall in right field, by the way.
Devers with his 784 OPS is a 120 OPS plus.
He's a career 128 OPS plus.
And his career OPS is 850.
So that's one of those things, man.
I do wonder something about him has been sad.
I know this is going to sound a little dumb at its core.
Rafi Devers at a hitter's park.
Like, dude, if Rafi Devers was a fifth,
Philadelphia, Philly? Like, what do you think his season stats would look like?
A lot better. A lot better. Which makes you a lot happier.
It makes you a lot happier.
It does. And also being on like a winning baseball team. So I'm not, I'm not throwing out. He's got 20.
He's got 20 jacks. Like, he's got a path to 30 here. And, you know, we know about the 30 homers in San
Francisco. Again, I think he's a guy that you look and say, look, okay, Bryce
Eldridge, go play first base, and then sorry, like, nobody else is going to
DH. It's those two guys, essentially. Or Devers, you're just going to have to
dege for the foreseeable future. He's signed through 33. I know. I know. And that was the whole
thing when this trade went down. They were like, the fact the Red Sox got anything back, blah, blah,
I realized they kind of don't anymore from that trade. But, um, God, he's making so much money,
Jake, 33 a year, and then at the end, 31 a year for the last three.
122 already.
225 still coming his way.
That's good for around 350 mil.
But this is my thing.
And I guess I can add this to my like Pete Alonzo-ish theory or whatever it is.
Rafi Devers got paid that money, one, because the Padres were thrown out a ton of money.
And Zander Bogart's got signed to San Diego.
which that that's part of just the truth of it.
The other thing is, dude,
Rafi was one of the steadiest,
most consistent hitters in baseball
from 2021 through 2025.
These are the OPSs by year, Coach Trev.
890, 879, 851, 871.
Last year he landed at 851.
It's really hard to be that good of a hitter
every year that I don't know, man.
You wonder if there's a GM out there that's like,
if we can get him out of San Francisco and they could eat $5 million a year,
$8 million a year, something like that.
Like, this dude, we've seen him when he's right,
and he's just, he's elite.
He can, there can be the best pitcher on the world on the mound in front of him,
and he can still win that battle.
And there's not that many guys in baseball you can truly say that about.
that I would love if a chain of scenery happens,
but man, dude,
some of the nasty phone calls
they must have taken on Devers.
It's like, yeah, if you eat 10 mil a year,
we'll take them for free and you're like,
fuck, man.
Like, that's, you can't do that.
I'm hanging on to this guy.
Walk rates down a little bit this year.
That's why the OPS is down.
I think that that's something that will come back
and normalize, in my opinion,
especially with a guy of his talent,
as he continues to get more and more kind of comfortable in his environment.
I think he keep him, man.
I do.
I think he is the bat that you can kind of rally around.
Him and Eldridge, like two big fucking lefties.
I love that.
I know.
I'm just, I'm going around,
I'm basically going around hitter ballparks right now.
And every time I'm like, damn, Rafi.
Again, this Dalt's right here and this isn't real,
but like him as an Arizona Diamondback
My God
Dude will you stop
My God
Like I realize there's no reality there
But it's where I like to live sometimes
Trade them to the Nats
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So up guys, big fan of the show.
So I'm a big Yankees fan,
and you guys know the issue we have a catcher.
at third base.
I want to get Cincinnati Reds on a call
and get Tyler Stevenson and Spencer Steer.
I don't know if you can put steer at second
and put Chisholm at third possibly.
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What was that?
He dropped a goal on us?
Oh, the Chris Rose goal.
Oh, jeez.
Signature.
I like that.
Okay.
I'll hit you with some yanks quick.
They need to get a catcher where I started the episode talking about with Stevenson.
What the hell happened to Austin Wells?
I don't know, man.
I think with him and Volpe, the Yanx-
Too many TikTok dances.
No, not enough.
Oh, maybe more.
Yes.
I think the Yankees didn't treat them fairly.
I think they should have just treated them like normal young ballplayers.
And, hey, maybe you got to ride the bus.
Maybe you got to work on things and said the Yankees kind of did toxic positivity with them.
Austin's also had some weird injuries.
He's got a hand thing that, like, will never be fixed.
And that goes back to last year.
He also had some, like, bad cervical headaches, which were a scary read that, I don't know.
Maybe it's just a really tough sport, too.
They're going to be in on a catcher.
Third base, maybe I'm flying a little blind here.
my guy Ryan McMahon last 35 games OPS is in the eights
that I think the Yankees have bigger needs at catcher
and some pitching needs than third base
but you do have to answer the call if it's there
and now that I know Spencer Steers 5-9
oddly more in.
Brewer's going to go get Spencer Steer
Tyler Stevenson's interesting
yeah throw his name in the hat for catchers
the reds are going to sell
he's a rental
last 28 days since you like to break it up into that.
360 407, 560.
So he's 3.45 in it for the 967.
So he's up this trade value.
Okay.
Overall numbers on the year are just are fine.
He's actually crushed, not crushed.
He's hit right-handers much better than lefties this year,
which is pretty interesting.
747 OPS against right-handers to a 583 against left-hand.
What are they doing to you, Tyler?
change pieces on the outside corner or what?
This is a kind of a big baseball question that's been on my mind lately that I've wanted to ask you.
For guys that you see, there's a year where they're hitting righties or they're hitting lefties
and maybe it switches from their career numbers.
Do you think it's, do you think that's small data samples?
Do you think your swing, like, can change year over year that maybe where it lands that season?
you do better versus lefties or you do better
versus righties.
Like I guess what goes into the hitter math on that?
Yeah, I mean, for his career,
so we're talking to Tyler Stevenson right now,
789 against lefties and 746 against righties.
Okay, much better hitter than I, like, gave him credit for.
Interesting, he's had a lot of injury stuff.
Career 758 OPS from the catcher's position, okay?
Big boy, 6, 3, 2, 25.
year to year
it could just be like
the lefties
you're facing that year
you might just face
like good lefties
so like who's in his division
you know
Kyle Harrison's in his division
I guess I'm
blank on
yeah there's not a ton of lefties
in his division
Matt Boyd
yeah he's got Ladolo
on his team
and there's not a lot of lefties
no lefties on the pirates
whatsoever so yeah
honestly
it could be some mechanical adjustment
it could be
smaller sample size
and just hey
haven't really hit my homers against them or something like that.
But unless you're, yeah, I mean, those are the two things it could be.
Like something mechanically where maybe you're trying to pull more and that's been your goal.
And really, like, you shouldn't be trying to pull lefties.
If you're right-handed hitter, you got to be thinking about big part of the field against lefties.
If in your mind, hey, I'm trying to lift the ball in the air to the pull side more, that could expose you against some lefties.
or like I said, the other reason would be I'm facing different guys
who I just haven't had success against.
Yeah, I guess I was going through Ahmed Rosario's numbers
and he's been hitting Ritey's and not lefties recently,
which his career is the opposite of that.
But he was also, the Ritees he's been facing
have been like kind of reverse split or bullpen,
like in blowout games that has cooked the books a little bit.
But I don't know.
I feel like you see that every year,
and I wonder,
Okay, what's that smile?
I just brought me to something because you're talking about like, I don't know.
I don't know why I thought of this.
A couple guys who I respect both these guys.
I want that on the record here.
Rick Honeycutt, who I met in L.A. for like the draft when I did that.
All time baseball name.
This guy like brought me in like I was his son, dude.
He's like, get over here.
One of those guys.
He bought me a beer and just like.
Love that.
I couldn't believe how nice he was.
He was on the Cubs,
the other night listening and they have and I don't want to mess his name up it's Lance
Brzeowski he's on tough name you can be fair about that he's great I like following him
very very knowledgeable he's a new age uh pitching guy which you see a lot of those right
brosdowski like Lance bro that's I'm calling you Lance bro uh again phenomenal
both of these guys. But it was really funny. They were talking about the same pitchers like Holloway,
I believe is his name on the on the Cubs, low arm angle guy. So Lance is just talking about, well,
you know, like when you get down here, like the induced vert and it goes over all the technical
terms and basically explaining, you know, like what he does and why it's nasty and just keeps going
about all that. The spin, the arm angle. He's comparing him to another pitcher that was way up top
and just talking about all these things. And Rick Honeycutt comes on. He's like, yeah, the deception
is really what gets him going here. I'm like, that's two ways to say the exact same thing.
It was like this crazy technical layout about the spin and the low arm angle and how the induced
fur and all the stuff. And Honeycutt's like, yeah, he's deceptive. And it means the same thing.
Yeah.
And I think that's where we're at as a baseball society.
It's like, we're saying the same thing.
But one group's just like, all right, like there's just, you don't need to really,
really go into it.
And one group's like, no, you really do need to go into it.
And that's going to make you better.
And I think both sides are right.
Yeah.
It's just we're able to put numbers on a fastball having ride now.
Like, that's what scouts used to look for.
I remember, know who is a sneaky fast pitcher when I was learning baseball?
Ted Lilly.
Ted Lilly.
Invisible.
That was the name for it.
Ted Lilly threw 92, but guys were always laid on his fastball
because he kind of short...
I think his release was a little weird, and he had good ride.
Like, now we know how to measure that
between the way the ball spins and...
Okay, so we landed here.
Do you think there's anything else we need, Bobo?
No. Okay. Good.
I mean, what do we got? July 22nd.
Trade deadlines on a Monday.
I guess future.
future stuff that we figured out.
We're gonna go live for it again.
Do you know where I'll be
live for the trade deadline?
I don't, but I saw in our group chat
you processing that, oh, fuck,
the deadlines on a Monday.
Where are you gonna be?
I will be.
Last year, I think I was in New York
at City Field, right?
Ooh.
Is that last year?
Maybe.
One of the years for sure.
No, I think I was here last year
the year before that I was in
because I was wearing my tux shirt last year
when you guys got Camillo DeVal.
Right.
That's the...
Thank God.
I see that clip all the time.
People like that.
I get it.
I get it.
I'm going to be in Joe Mower's office.
Wow.
That is Lakehouse.
Hear that people?
Joe Mowers Lakehouse.
And some people are calling him.
Who's that twins prospect you compare to?
Walker Jenkins.
Some are calling him an old Walker Jenkins.
Go look at Walker Jenkins numbers.
That's great.
Get him up real quick.
Put him on the sheets so we can read him as we get out of here.
What happened to the Minnesota moose this year?
He got banged up?
He reverted.
He made changes in the off season,
lowering his leg kick.
Didn't have initial success with it when he got into spring training.
There's Walker.
He's raking at AAA.
but kind of reverted back to his ways.
What stadium is this?
St. Paul St. Paul.
Most homers in all of minor league baseball at that stadium,
which is weird because the PCL exists,
but Minnesota Moose is, it hasn't gone great for him this year.
It's a tough game.
Well, people, comment below.
Let us know what other trades your team has.
Thank you guys for everyone who did call in.
And if you got any more for us, let us know.
but because it is the midweek, it's time to look at some future baseball markets presented by fanatic markets.
Trev, we got a couple for the people tonight.
And of course, if we have an opportunity to talk some Cater Montero and the Tigers as they take on Colin Ray and the Cubbies.
A couple, little Centrale matchup tonight, Coach Trev.
I keep thinking the Tigers have a better record than they do.
Yeah.
Right now, sitting seven games under 500.
Five games back in the wild card.
I do love Cater on the mound.
And also, yeah, Colin Ray, two legendary talking baseball names.
This series has been interesting.
Cubs had a chance first game.
Didn't happen.
Then they steamrolled in the second game and a four-game set.
So we will see what happens tonight.
But I do like the pitching matchup.
Man, Detroit needs to play well next week and a half.
They have been, but they were so bad.
They were so bad.
win 14 a row. It's worked for Boston.
The final one we're looking at tonight, it's my Marlins, your Astros.
Sandy Alcantara, Marlins have lost eight straight since I said I was confident they'll make the postseason.
So that's tough on me.
They are going against Houston and Peter Lambert, who's been fantastic this year?
Sandy on the bump for the Marlins
and he leads all of baseball and innings pitch
is what he does and for a long time
it was hey no we're keeping Sandy
this eight game losing streak does that change things
I don't really know
and yeah Peter Lambert he has been
the most consistent starting pitcher on the Astros
and if you had that coming into the season raise your hand
and I'll call you a liar
unless you're Peter Lambert
Unless you're Peter Lamber.
He knew.
Or his mom or something like that.
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Thank you, Coach Trev.
Thank you, Bobby.
Sirotry. Dalton Feeley, the
Drinkmaster.
We'll be back on Friday.
I got to catch up
on Ball, seeing that
Shohei highlight?
Jake sucks. I've been all
over, Ball. You have been. You're
locked right now. Yeah, I am locked.
Peker Armstrong
Stud made a great catch
the other night. Was it last night? Was it last night?
I've been all over the Mariners. I've been watching the Mariners
Red Sears.
Yeah.
Yeah
Chase Burns
The Gino-Swarres ball
Homers
Last night
Chase Byrne got paid
