Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Yankees Perfect Game & Cleveland Takes Over the Central! | 682

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to Talking Baseball. Perfect game. Number 24 in baseball history. New leaders in the Central. Oh boy. Thursday talking baseball? What? Oh. He'll get your hands in. Just got to get the barrel on it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Present to you by Seekkeek, the geeks of seats. You guys. no seat geek code talking 20 dollars off your first purchase download the app code talking 20 off it's so easy to use it j can use it and you never know what you might see at a baseball game trev that's kind of the the beauty of this sport you might buy a ticket off seat geek you know could be anywhere in the ballpark in oakland and you could slide your seat up because there's not a lot of people there There's a lot of dogs in the stand Tuesday night.
Starting point is 00:01:13 And then there was a dog on the mound last night. So make sure you get your tickets through Seeky because you might see history, Trev. Counterpoint, if you go to a baseball game, you know you're going to see baseball. Oh, yes. So there's that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Well, sometimes you get there and it gets rained out before it even starts. Oh, don't say that. That's a good point. That's a good point. But they'll probably show some baseball in the video while that happens. You get that blooper reel
Starting point is 00:01:40 the Sorda falls over at the All-Star game. Trev, how are you? You know I'm good and you know why I'm good. I had a great morning this morning. Special edition, talking baseball Thursday. You're so famous
Starting point is 00:01:58 that we had to mix the schedule around. I'm okay with it. I'm flexible. Yeah. Flexible, man. Although I realized yesterday, I put some golf yesterday. And I think that's my main problem.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I got to get more like fully rotational with it. Like I got, it's a whole different thing with golf. Yes. And, you know, I'm no Nicki Cass. I don't suck like that, but I like to get better. I'm playing a lot more lately. Tennis has been given my legs fit, so I'm trying to figure out what to do now with my competitiveness.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Golf never has been that for me. I'm a leisurely golfer. I don't even put my scores in because I don't play any tournaments. I don't even, I rarely play for money. If I do, I don't care. I won't even take any strokes when I probably should take strokes. Right. I don't know how we got here.
Starting point is 00:02:48 You and me aren't take strokes, guys. I don't care that you're better than me at golf. Like, let's fucking do this. We'll figure it out. Okay. That's exactly how I feel like. I'll Venmo you that money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I realize I'm going to lose. Trev, yeah, I don't know why we ended up there at all because it was a big night in baseball, a new leader in the AL Central. We're going to talk about that. And yeah, we were planning on moving up this episode anyways, because you're right. I am heading out to NASCAR, Chicago.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Whoops. And yeah, let's just do it. And it's going to be a little bit of a funky, shorter ep because a lot of the series aren't done yet. But, man, Trev, I looked at the standouts. and what do you do I got mine what do you do
Starting point is 00:03:42 I loved your pick I loved your pick because it's a team you've been hot on that's called a teaser in the industry I mean let's just get into it and see where we land right aim for the moon and land in the stars isn't that what you're always saying
Starting point is 00:03:56 I kind of like that saying I don't like the whatever yeah I like that saying do we just do the perfect game now Like people are here for that, right? Like we're making content. I don't know. Poppy, you got the freaking jersey on.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Let's just do the perfect game. Your team desperately needed something fun to happen. And it happened. You know what? I mentioned this too. So yeah, let's just do it. Let's do the perfect game. And the perfect game is brought to you by NASCAR.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I mentioned it's the reason why we originally moved up this app. I'm flying out tomorrow. Shy City. Do you think about me now and then going out for a NASCAR again. Oh, good music out of Chicago, do pimp. Po pampin? Do or die? We're going to be at the first ever NASCAR through the streets of Chicago. Joe's McFly snaked his way in there. Canobio, sure. The talking giants guys, I know. It's going to be a ruckus one. We've got, I think there's some interviews with some racers. coming up, which that should be very interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It's like a three-day weekend event. It's through the streets of Chicago. We might be sneaking over to the Cubby's game Saturday. We'll see. But this race is going to be awesome. It's the first one. July 2nd, 530 Eastern NBC. Again, it's not your traditional race.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It's literally through the streets. It's the first time they're doing it. We're going to be there. If you're around in the area, come through. They've got concerts going on and stuff. It's going to be an awesome weekend. end event. And if you can't and you're not out there, watch it again, July 2nd, 530 Eastern NBC. All right. So, Trev, let me paint a picture for you because I'm going to tell this story
Starting point is 00:05:50 probably three times today. And then I'll probably tell it a lot of times later in life and I'll forget all of the details. So last night, Wednesday night, Yankees coming off their worst loss of the season, by the way, to the Oakland days. Offense, still not working. Still don't have real judge updates. Tough. Domingo Hermann comes out. His past two starts have been brutal.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Okay, Yankees' offense puts up a couple runs. You look at the scoreboard, there's zeros on it. My night, stayed late at the office. You know me. Jess had dinner plans. I said, okay, you know what I'm craving right now? I want a marg and some MF and tacos. Because the New York City sneaky, not good at that.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Having lived in Dallas, and you know, you're a West Coast guy, the Mexican food in New York City, it's not like top notch. We're not, it's not king of Mexican food. It's kind of like yuppie Mexican food. Well, okay. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:58 As a Mexican food officiato, right. You got to, I mean, here's a little secret. You got to find, like, the Mexican people. That's, you're absolutely right. And that's, no, when I, when I lived in Dallas, like, best, best food you got. That in the city, like, I think if you go in the suburbs, I think if you go to Queens and some, like, I think you can find the good stuff. But I'm in the city.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I hunt out a place with a good, a good outdoor bar kind of area, Mark. It's got top gun on with subtitles. We've been a big top gun. Original one. Which, original? Oh, geez. So I'm at the bar, Marg, a couple tacos. Wait, wait, wait, whoa, tacos.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Marg, Topkin, Yankees, baseball? Yeah. Did you die yesterday? I might have. So. Are we both dead? Game starts. I had a great morning.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You had a great night. I had a great night. So it starts at 940. Bless you, B, BD. I'm walking the streets. I see a brother and sister from my hometown I grew up with, hadn't seen them forever, have another drink with them. Head back for the game.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Okay, Yanks, we're operating. Jess comes back. We kiss each other gently. Tune back into the game. Yanks are up six, seven, nothing. And then I'm like, all right, should I, like, tune this out? Like, you know, should I get a good night's rest? I've got a big weekend coming up.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I see all the zeros across the scoreboard, and I go, oh boy. Domingo Hermann, the curve ball was curving. I think he got 21 of the 27 batters out with the curveball. which that's one of the crazy stats that comes with it. And then, man, I'll say this. And I think, you know, in a second we'll talk about, you know, the figure that is Domingo Hermann and how to process that. Haven't felt, because perfect games and no-hitters are different, man,
Starting point is 00:08:52 and we've had a couple no-hitters. We haven't had a perfect game since, what was it, 2012? And those in between... King Felix, yeah. Those in-between innings going from the seventh to the eighth to the ninth. And shout out to the yes broadcasts, and, you know, we're affiliated with them. But this isn't sucking up. They canceled.
Starting point is 00:09:14 They didn't go to commercials. Top nine into bottom nine. They stayed on the broadcast, which I thought that was really cool. They set up the situation. And, yeah, Domingo keeps slinging it. You know, everyone looks for the one play. Rizzo had a nice diving stop. and the fifth. It wasn't out of control. Like, oh, my God, how did this happen? It was a nice play.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And then there was, I think there was a 3-0 or a 3-1 count that was like, oh, shoot. Like, if we get the walk here, again, you go from perfect game to no-no. Domingo locked in and threw a couple good ones. And yeah, the 24th perfect game in baseball history, fourth in Yankees history, Larson, Cohn, and Wells. So, Trev, that was my painting the full picture of it. what a what do you got for me 52% curveball so yes the curve ball was curve and I think he I'm looking right now he had 12 swings and misses on it that's what you want to see you know in watching I didn't watch the whole game but now I've watched all the outs and stuff like that as the highlights
Starting point is 00:10:22 have come out he just wasn't in the middle of the zone at all man if you're not in the middle of the zone and you can kind of throw your pitches where you want him strikes when you want to present them as strikes and let them fall out of the zone as balls when you want to. Chances are the contact isn't going to be hard. So when you got weak contact and you got some swings and misses, I mean, this is kind of how this builds up. And yeah, like you mentioned, there wasn't exactly the spectacular play that you come to expect
Starting point is 00:10:53 in situations like that. But it's impressive. And I know people are going to say, oh, it was against the A's man. and it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to be that locked in. And it was only 99 total pitches. Yeah. To throw a freaking perfect game.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I think that's one of the more impressive things. How many strikeouts? Was it nine strikeouts, I believe? Yeah, there was nines all over the board because it was what, nine innings, nine strikeouts, 99 pitches. That's one of the things that'll be remembered with it. And then, yeah, to get the support of his team, get that the lead. And then cushion, it really allows a pitcher to,
Starting point is 00:11:31 settle in and kind of say, okay, well, I don't have to be perfect. So I can be perfect. It's kind of where I landed on it. Like I said, you guys really needed that. Something to lift Yankee fans spirits up because the night before we had Joe's McFly posting pictures of the 98 team saying, pop, this is the this is the Yankees. I'm like, bro, you're down bad if you're putting up Glory Day pictures right now. and so are we going to like look at this and say this is the turning point in the Yankee season they're going to go probably not to be honest with you because they still need that guy Aaron Judge
Starting point is 00:12:09 but you know anytime you can see something like this it's it's it's pretty special and I keep watching it I have the highlights running right here it's everything is I mean they're chasing and he's just on the peripheral of the strike zone in a lot of weak context so snaps to Domingo Hermann I mean that was uh it's obviously impressive 24 that that's that always shocks me that there's only been 24 right a lot of a lot of no hitters ton of no hitters uh and yeah i kind of explain into jess because jess was like hey you're up kind of late last night i was like well it was perfect game like you know only 24 ever like everybody out she was like ooh she was in on it she really liked the phrase perfect game so that was so you threw your perfect game and then domingo finished off sure did. Domingo Hermon's first complete game in the majors.
Starting point is 00:13:04 He had won in AA in 2017. And yeah, it's, I think the other thing, Trev, because we've had to address this on the nose for four years now, so I'll say what I've said. Domingo Hermon did have a domestic violence situation in 2019, and he was suspended. I think it was, what was it, 81 games?
Starting point is 00:13:30 It was like the biggest suspension. It got crossed up with the COVID year two, so I don't know how many games he literally missed, but, and yeah, we were super tied to it. I mean, going back, that was when it was talking Yanks only.
Starting point is 00:13:44 So me, Jimmy and Beaves, me and Jimmy were at the, it was C.C.'s gala. It was the first thing we got invited to is media. So we were like, kind of in it, but not really.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Technically, you were there. Yeah, and then it all, came out and the thing where we landed on, because you guys know me pretty well by now, being the serious guy isn't necessarily what I'm good at, but I like to think I'm good at being real. And basically where I've landed on that situation is however you want to feel about it, you can feel that way. If you don't, you know, if you thought Domingo Hermann should have been
Starting point is 00:14:19 suspended from baseball for life, if you want to feel that way, I, you know, I can't change how you think if you're a person that believes in second chances, third chances, fourth chances, you can live there. MLB in the New York Yankees have allowed him to play and keep playing. And the glass half full is, hey, maybe believe in second chances and believe in getting older and believe in maturing and learning from your mistakes and being a better person. And maybe this is this is the next step in Domingo.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Hermann growing from that and becoming better and maybe he can hopefully bring light to that in I don't want to say a positive way but in an awareness way going forward and hopefully hopefully it can be a good step for him as a person and that's kind of where you want to land and you hope that he's just not an awful dude and got better. But I don't know, Trev. Again, not my best lane, but it's a part of the conversation. Yeah, this is not really the show for that. I will say that accountability is at an all-time high, I would say, like in the world. And he was held accountable. And I hope he continues to be held accountable and learns and grows and never has it happen again, because that's
Starting point is 00:15:49 probably the worst thing that you could do in my in my book or one of the worst things that you could do um i'll leave it at that yeah uh yeah the yankee side of this is also interesting trev worst loss of the season perfect game uh you want to talk about an afternoon game in oakland that sneaky matters massive today if the yankees the yggies lose that like it's all pop the balloon it's out the window um if it doesn't you know you You've won the series. You're going on to face the Cardinals who have been sinking in swimming. We're heading towards the all-star break, which any momentum any team can get is good.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And I, uh, the other part of this that David Cohn said this colleague. Yeah, I love David Cohn, man. I miss him. I feel like I haven't, you know, been around him. Yeah, he's been doing a lot. I mean, he does a lot, man. He's, you know, doing the ESPN broadcasts on Sundays and a lot of yes. David Wells threw his Yankees' perfect game,
Starting point is 00:16:53 and he was kind of a polarizing figure for a lot of people and that kind of, again, polarizing for different reasons, but that kind of, I don't know, sent him on like a better path for baseball and person, David Wells, that maybe it could be that for Domingo Hermann. And maybe for the Yankees, it can be people love pointing at stuff. And if you can point at it and say, to go from the worst loss of the year
Starting point is 00:17:19 at a perfect game and then if the Yankees head into the break and win, I don't know, 9 of 11 or something like that, people love believing in shit. So I don't know, a little bit of a wild ride last night, late on the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Are you going to do a burn through the American League or what are we doing here? Because I feel like we're, you just, the structure of the show, you just kicked it over. I just hammered it.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, you did. I think we throw it out I think we go where we want to go because we do have some big topics man you're your AL Central there's a now you just got to gush over your yanks now you want me to talk about what happened in Atlanta with my Twinkie
Starting point is 00:18:06 Hey we can table it We can talk We can talk Mets and Steve Cohen throwing press cards This has been our biggest topics up in a while And I think that's why we're flipping the script. So if you're ready for some Twinkies, we can. Or I got other stuff for us, too.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, I mean, I definitely want to hit a few of the series because I feel like there are some big ones going out there, like some really, like fun, awesome baseball being played, specifically D-BACs race. Yeah. First of all, aesthetically pleasing is all hell. I didn't think that was going to be the case. But like the white D-BACs uni's with like, that little bit of like I'm kind of
Starting point is 00:18:49 colorblind when it comes. It's like I think it's like a teal blue on the letters. Yeah. Hot. Yeah. And the rays with the baby blue and Siri with the dreadlocks, hot. Siri. But if you want me to just go talk about how my twins are two games under
Starting point is 00:19:05 500, out of first place since God knows when the Guardian's picking up steam, sure, let's do it, dude. So you don't want to talk deep ass race. because he just guided it. The twins go down to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Okay, here we go. And they get swept. In the end, they shut. I mean, this is where, like, it gets a little murky for me because, like, I'm not the biggest fan of players-only meetings. Like, I, like, called one once. I got in trouble for it.
Starting point is 00:19:39 That's a famous Bob Melvin and me story. So, like, they don't, I don't know what they do. because you can talk about everything that you want to talk about. Sometimes there are issues maybe, like if there's something going on in the club out or, you know, like the Wander Franco situation, something was going on there. If you want to have a meeting about that, someone's not trying hard or doing that, then, okay, let's have a closed doors meeting. Let's hash it out.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You got something to say to me? Let's just sit now, bro. I've had that happen and those are good ones. Sometimes you need that sort of closed door meeting. When you're just getting your butt kicked and I don't think they had a hit with runners and scoring position the entire series. Oh for 23. You score three runs.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Like that's not a, what are you going to do in the closed door meeting? And I don't mean like, look, they got guys there. The clubhouse is fine. I know that for a fact. Like, nobody's fighting in there. Like, everyone's working hard. I've seen it up close and personal, man. And the guys in there, like, they're good.
Starting point is 00:20:41 So I don't know what you can say other than like, hey, let's just move on and keep going. we got 80 games left let's go be the best team that we can be let's continue on this path let's try to get some fucking knocks i don't know you hold the braves the best offensive team in the big leagues to 13 runs over four games it's just over four runs per game you think you could sneak out a w but when your offense is as cold as the twins is it's it's difficult that first game great i mean the pitching matchups were electric here i mean sunny gray versus spencer strider amazing. Sunny Gray ends up kind of, I guess, staying in a little bit too long, gives up the home or two
Starting point is 00:21:19 Azuna. I mean, it's a two to one game at that point. They tack on a few extra runs there. Twins weren't hitting. And Strider was absolutely filthy. He struck out 10 dudes. I still can't believe how big his feet are. Yeah. It doesn't seem that big to me, but his feet look like fucking boat paddles or skis, I guess you could say. Second game, they jump. So this is when I gave Peter Moylan the scouting report on Joe Ryan. I was like, yeah, man, I gave all the stuff. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Homer after Homer after Homer.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And like, dude, I mean, they, the twins, when they got down five nothing or whatever it was, like they just weren't going to come back from that, man. Bryce Elder did a good job. Bullpen came in and did a thing. And then, you know, what I've been, I guess the one takeaway. And like I apologize for not giving the Braves all the love. I'm just talking about the twin sorrows, but that's just kind of what I know here. Kentsa Maita with another, like, decent start.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I think that's like a really positive thing you could take from this series. That Splitter's still working really well. He goes five with two earn runs after I think going five shuddy against the Tigers in his last start. So you're going 10 innings with two earned runs over your first two starts back. That's nice for the twins. But it's the hitting, man. It's always been the offense for the twins this year. Go look at the starting pitching staff.
Starting point is 00:22:40 The bullpen's good enough, but the twins just. haven't been able to hit, may have not got hot, and the Braves are a fucking wagon, dude. Like, they don't stop. Trevor, I'm glad you covered the twins because you do, A, and B, it does stop there because they're not the problem in this series. The Braves, hey, is your team having a good month?
Starting point is 00:23:09 The Guardians who just jumped the twins, and 10. That's a pretty good baseball month, right? The Braves are 20 and 4 this month. 20 and 4. They're nuts. They basically had an undefeated raise April. By the way, they are tied with the raise for the best record in all of baseball. The race team that was off to the historic start.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Well, you know, can anyone ever catch them? Braves, 20 and 4 this month. I mean, we've got Kirby Yates. Haven't talked about him in a while. He comes in for a save. Why not? Matt Olson hits another Homer, dating my daughter. Michael Harris had one of the slowest starts to the season.
Starting point is 00:23:55 He's going now. You know, Ronald Acuna Jr.'s on pace for what? A 30-80 season? I don't know, man. they're a problem and we knew they'd be a problem and think about all the time we checked in on them and it's like they kind of don't have any starting pitching right now it's like oh there's you know Max Freed is hurt
Starting point is 00:24:20 you know Soroka's trying to fight back Elder and Strider have been incredible and now they're getting they're starting to pull stuff out of their buck Kobe Allard and they fully expect to have these guys back freed and Wright and Strider and Elder and like they're like they're going to get healthy and it really doesn't matter like you hope that comes to fruition and they have those guys
Starting point is 00:24:51 doing it if you're a Braves fan but right now you can win games in so many other ways like that's the thing dude about the big leagues is if you're a team that's set up and it's like dude we're we're pitching we play defense and they we're going to score some runs but offense isn't our calling card. Well, guess what? Like, when you're pitching goes cold, you're not going to win any games. Like, this team,
Starting point is 00:25:16 if the pitching isn't there, I mean, they can score runs with the best of them. If they're hitting isn't there, they can shut you out. Like, they have that capability. They can play D. Like, they run the bases. Like, something is going to be going well for them
Starting point is 00:25:32 at any time. And when they all line up, like, In June, you go 20 and 4. It's the best roster in baseball. I said this on baseball today. I said they're the class of the NL. Dodgers,
Starting point is 00:25:52 Diamondbacks, Giants. Who else is there that I have to give like a lot to you right now? Treb, that's the whole point of this. You start getting into like Reds and Marlins, which going back to your twins, you know, the twins are in. that boat on a good day the Braves are in a
Starting point is 00:26:14 I don't know if I don't Here's the thing I don't know if the twins I love the twins I love covering them I don't have them in the tier With the Diamondbacks The Giants and the Dodgers I was saying I was saying maybe Reds and Marlins Not the other
Starting point is 00:26:31 Teesh I don't know man Right now no right now I do not have them in that tier They just haven't been consistent Offensively enough and like here we are. I mean, it's almost July, dude. There's three teams right now. It's Braves, Tampa, and Texas Rangers.
Starting point is 00:26:48 They are in a class clearly by their own. Yes. You don't think Baltimore's in that tier? Hmm. It's an interesting question. I do. They're close. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Like, I love Baltimore. You've heard me, Gush, since the second week of the season. I said I was, wrong about Baltimore. That team is nasty. I just, Corbyn Burns was in here, hopped on Wake and Jake. I asked him what was, you know, when ball players talk, they'll talk differently about teams. I was like, who's the team you guys played this year and you walked away and you were like, how many, you know, that team's got a lot of dudes.
Starting point is 00:27:29 He said the Orioles. So you might be right, and I love the Orioles. I guess when I compare them in the Braves, I still see two different things. It's, it's, they're hitting, bro. I guess, and I guess to walk all over myself, Texas Rangers and Orioles, I don't necessarily see two things that are too far apart. I think, I guess Tampa and Atlanta, I can't lump the Orioles with them yet. I'd love to. Sure, I, I think it's, I think it's, uh, I think Atlanta is the best team in baseball right now.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I do. Yes, same. And then right below them, I would. that's when I go Tampa, that's when I go D-Bex, that's when I go Dodgers and Giants. I'm trying to think about like another ALT. I think I guess I put the Orioles in that tier
Starting point is 00:28:20 and the Rangers and then there's another tier and then probably the twins are on the tier. Yeah, it might be. It's tough for me to say, but that's, it's the truth, bro. Like the starting pitching has been they're under 500. Great for them.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Two games under 500. I want to, I got one thing and then I want to, I think we talk a little race, snakes. quick. Treve, you were talking about the all-around aspect of Atlanta, and I've tried to think about the right way to put this because we get so mad when front offices say the playoffs are a crapshoot
Starting point is 00:28:55 because they're wrong, but they're kind of right, right? Like, you know, you play three games in baseball, like shit can happen. But the way I've started phrasing it is lottery tickets. but I'll start phrasing it as maybe like the ping pong lottery for the NBA draft or whatever it is. With speed, defense, starting pitching, relief pitching, contact hitting, power hitting. Basically, if you have all of those as attributes, and this is going in my analytics binder, that gives you more ping pong balls. So yes, there's a luck aspect to baseball, but you can also create your own luck by the more talent and speed and everything that
Starting point is 00:29:41 helps you on a baseball field, gives you a chance to win. And that's what you're saying with the bridge. Right now, they have the most ping pong balls. Yeah, 100%. I think people started to say that because it's like, you want to take it one step at a time as a player. You want to start winning series, and then you want to start thinking as it gets to it, let's win the division. And then if you're not in that position, let's win the wild card. And it will see what happens. But I do agree with you. there are teams that are much better suited to win playoff series than other teams. And that's kind of the whole, like, that's why we play the game. Two teams that you already, you talked about without talking about,
Starting point is 00:30:26 because it's very high-level baseball in this second game that went down, my goodness. Snakes and rays have currently split there too. You know, the offense going off early in that first game, Gallin and Bradley, although Gallin does lock in and give a Zach Allen start. Corbyn Carroll, your boy Longo, who we might discuss later. And then that second game last night, I mean, you know, top of the ninth. One big suing by Josh Lowe. And it changes the whole course of the game and, you know, talk about lottery tickets.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Josh Lowe, there's not much he can't do on a field. But like you said, you know, if there's a second tier of baseball teams, If it's Braves and if it's only Braves and Rays at the top, you know, my snakes, snakes would be in that second tier and there's some good baseball played out West. There's a lot coming on, one of the snakes players later on in the show. But yeah, I mean, that first game, like, you just see why both these teams are so good. Carol, three run home at a dead center.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Like, this dude has sneaky, like sneaky crazy pop. He is, I went into a card shop yesterday. before we had a team party for my snakes at the bowling. I got some card packs on the open. And then I made a challenge. I said, okay, whoever has the most strikes wins.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And I bought a Corby and Carroll rookie card. So that was a fun. But I touched the guy in the card shop. I said, give me like, who's selling right now? Who's like hot? Who are people coming in to get?
Starting point is 00:32:01 He's like, well, Shohay has like consistently been like our guy. He's like, but then now it's Corby and Carol. Like the kids are coming in. They want Corbyn Carroll stuff. They're seeing what he can do on the field.
Starting point is 00:32:12 He's just electric, dude. So three run home for him, back to back with our guy. Hot boy Christian. I think I'm starting the Christian Walker as a hot. Yeah, you're in on that. Interesting. He bangs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Like, not like traditionally handsome, I don't think. Never been on the bald thing, but like him and Longgo are kind of like the ball bros. Hmm. Doing it there. 5-0 lead against Gallin or excuse me they have a 5-0 lead
Starting point is 00:32:46 with Galen on it Yeah and the race fight back And they fight back Well they scored two on wild pitches Like identical wild pitches Zack Galen like change up down in the dirt Which is like that doesn't seem like it's
Starting point is 00:32:59 Zach Gallin thing And then our boy Jose Siri Dreadlocks He just decided to go John Joso on us How about we mentioned John Joso on us How about we mentioned John John Joso a lot on this pot.
Starting point is 00:33:10 You bring up John Joso a lot. He's got... He likes John Jayso a lot, huh? There's a little island in your head that's J-So island. It's like his life is Robinson Crusoe. Like, what are we doing here? Like maybe I'm a little jealous of the freedom that this guy has on
Starting point is 00:33:25 the open seas. What the fuck? I don't know. I don't have that freedom. He's... Gets him within... Well, he... Siri gets him within one. Homer. But then our guy Longgo comes. Extends the lead. They extend the lead even more.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And then they win that game. Then the race, yeah, the race is a second game. Great. That's a 2-1 game. Top of the ninth. Rayleigh with the single to tie it. Low with the double to put him ahead. Fairbanks in to shut the door.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I mean, this is, this, I don't know how Major League Baseball would feel about this being the World Series. But, like, it'd be an amazing series, baseball-wise. You know, all of the ratings, they might not be hype type, but they would be hyped because you know what they could play?
Starting point is 00:34:18 The 1998 expansion team angle. Both of these teams were 98. I think that's in the notes there, yeah. When did the Rockies come in? They were 94. I think that was their first year. Played a year at mile high. Who did they come in with?
Starting point is 00:34:40 It's baseball trivia now Where's Chris Roswin? We'll get a producer. Bebele's, look up what the... I was expanded in 97. Where's our... Where's our... He's like, I don't even
Starting point is 00:34:52 fucking know what you're talking about. He wasn't alive for the Rockies. A note on... Matté had a great series. People are like, you know, we need to keep mentioning this... We do. What's that?
Starting point is 00:35:04 903 is their first year. 93-94. They played at Mile High. And they've been a close- Were they like a solo expansion team? Was there an uneven amount of teams at that point or something? Big Rockies episode. Geez, okay. BPD, I've got another question for you.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Jose Siri, who we've talked about in a fun way on this broadcast. I mean, double lollipops in the hair. Now he pops on the dreads. He's got necklaces for days. He's dancing on your team. He's staring at his homers. Marlins joined with the Rockies. That's my bad.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Jose Siri, 15 homers this year in 50 games. Seven stolen bases. He has an 836 OPS, a 128 OPS plus. BPD, if Jose Siri was on the Yankees, where would he be batting in their lineup right now? With what he does. The Yankees have kind of been missing a lead-off hitter. He wouldn't be allowed to play the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:36:07 He's got two personality. Right. He'd be hitting top three. Jose Siri has pretty much, he's mostly batted ninth for the race. You know, some seven and eight in there too. But that just shows what they've got going on. And, yeah, also snakes were a pitch away. Scott McClough, I don't know how to say his last name.
Starting point is 00:36:31 22 and two-thirds scoreless or something like that. And he's one pitch away, and we'd be talking about how the snakes are nasty. It's a six sport. But like I mentioned with those lottery balls, balls. The rays have almost as many as the Braves and they had one more lottery ball in the chamber and it hit. I didn't know that Jose series on base percentage is so bad, but it makes, it's like on brand. It's on brand. It's on brand. Like, oh, walks, no, I'm here to hit the ball and swing. Whatever happens, happens. Okay, that makes sense. All right. So we hit those.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Speaking of ping pong balls, where are we going? We're playing Plinko on this episode. I love this. What's next, bro? I think what's next. Flinko is the goaded game on Prices Right. Everyone knows that. There's a team that has jumped into first place for the first time this year
Starting point is 00:37:25 that is an extension of our twins' conversation. The Cleveland Guardians game on Price is Right. Guessing the value of the car, we have to move the numbers back and forth. So we just did a little Price's Right popped up in the weekly dumb this week. episode. Go check that out. I kind of had one of those moments that I haven't watched it in forever because when you're a kid,
Starting point is 00:37:50 you have a snow day or something or you're with a relative during a weekday that that's what's on. Haven't watched it in forever. I always like the yodeler hiker game. Yoddler's awesome. What about the putting putting people like in an athletic competition just really quickly out of nowhere? Like what? Some of these people never held a freaking putter in their life
Starting point is 00:38:15 And they're playing for a freaking microwave They're so stoked about it I can If I hit this putt I can win a microwave And then I can win a jet ski And a vacation to Belgium I wanted
Starting point is 00:38:28 We need to do some like docs on like people that actually went on the vacations Tell us how they were Where this did you show up like oh Oh wow Come here Are they hooked up? Are they sending bad prices right vacations They can't be like five-star stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:38:44 I mean, that Price is right, didn't do five-star stuff. That's not the point of it. No, but I mean, you know, you could probably get some fours that, you know, some advertising. I think you could make it work. You can get some deals. Trev, the Cleveland Guardians, Chris Rose will tell you in a little bit. They're in first place. They've taken two from the Royals, which a lot of teams have.
Starting point is 00:39:07 But two things jump out. Gavin Williams, top prospect. He was one of those guys that could have easily gotten standout. Seven innings pitch, one hit, one walk, six Ks. More importantly, and I think Guardian fans have felt this, and we felt it in our Josh Naylor. All-Star call yesterday. They put up 14 yesterday.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Jose Ramirez, he's being Jose Ramirez again. Josh Naylor has been really good. Josh Bell with a big game. They put up 14 runs. A team that's felt missing from two and a half months of this season, essentially. They are now the first place, Cleveland Guardians, a game below 500, but trending the right way. Great bullpen.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Talk about Gavin Williams. I mean, he was top of the zone heaters, nasty, just blowing it by people. interesting couple plays there in that first game. Stefan throws the ball away. He's been really good for them. He throws the ball away like on a comeback. Or Chris Rose did not like that at all.
Starting point is 00:40:23 But then Will Brandon double down the right field line and they're able to take that game. And then he mentioned the offensive explosion in game two, position players pitching for the Royals. Yes, they're in first place. now. And I, like, the twins are looking up at them, like, as a team. They're, they're kind of similarly constructed, although I think like the twins should
Starting point is 00:40:53 have a better offense, but the guys that they're paying to have the years aren't having the years. Jose Ramirez, he's going to have his year at the end of the season. His numbers are going to look great. Right now, the twins, Correa hasn't gotten it done. Buckson hasn't gotten it done. Gallo hasn't gotten it done. Guys they were kind of relying on at the top of their lineup
Starting point is 00:41:15 to produce aren't producing. Essentially, that's just like that is the problem for the twins and the guys that the guardians are paying to produce are producing and starting to produce. Even Josh Fells numbers are going up. Naylor's, you know, very much so been productive, especially in the RBI category. So you start to get these pitches.
Starting point is 00:41:39 the pitching down and you start to score some runs, yeah, they're going to flip-flop. And they're only at what, 500? Or are they under 500? They're a game under. So it's like they're not going bananas, but they're just playing good enough ball to be ahead of the twins.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I think it's going to be a dog fight between these two teams as a season goes on. The guardians, I don't think, will run away with it because of, I mean, there's a lot of holes in that lineup. There's a lot of outs in that lineup. You could probably say the same thing about the twins. So they're, they're just, to be able to go on the seven, eight game heaters
Starting point is 00:42:15 that, you know, good teams can go on, I don't see that happening for either of these teams. I'm not countering anything you said. I, you know, Will Brennan's been going nuts. I do think you mentioned, you know, the guys for the twins that when you look at that offense have to go and be that guy, et cetera, et cetera. Carlos Correa is really good, a really good hitter. What makes him special is the way he can play shortstop, the toughest position to play on the field. You know, he's a career 825 OPS, which again, really good.
Starting point is 00:42:49 What makes him special is the way he can play the shortstop position. Jose Ramirez as a hitter, man. I mean, he provides something different. He's a switch hitter. The past, the past, the past, four seasons. He's been above 140 OPS plus. Like, that's the difference. He's, he's been top six in the MVP the last three years. Like, he is special. I know we all, you do the, is he talked about enough. I think so.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I think everyone who follows baseball knows that he's that guy now. But man, he, he is a difference maker. And while they were waiting for, for some of the young kids to click, whether it's Brennan or any, which I pick your nailer. Now that they're starting to go, Jose Ramirez is Jose Ramirez. He's led to,
Starting point is 00:43:47 Treve, do what you want with this. He's led the league in intentional walks now the past two seasons. Well. Yeah. No, he's a stud. And he's consistently a stud.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Like, that's, man, like you give that guy the money because you know he's going to be money every single year. It's incredible what he's turned into. It really, really is. It's consistently a top, what, five-hitter in baseball? That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Right. To be able to be in that conversation is nuts because there are some incredible players right now in this game and hitters. Go around the league, check it out, man. But he's always up there. I agree. I mean, look, the twins have a lot of,
Starting point is 00:44:39 a lot of their faith in Buck and Correa to be that like superstar one two punch and Korea just hasn't hasn't gotten there he's kind of just whether you know he was struggling with the fastball early on this season made a little bit of an adjustment on that we started the season walks and thought that was going to happen started the season hits the opposite field and he started pulling some balls are okay it's all going to come together. And like I believe he's one of those players like the numbers will be there. So if I'm saying that, that indicates he's going to have a big second half. For the twin's sake, I really hope he does. You know, Buck's been kind of more of a mixed bag throughout his career. Like there are times
Starting point is 00:45:24 where this guy is, he could be in that conversation for, you know, one of the top hitters in the game. But it's been streaky. It's been inconsistent. And right now, I mean, if you're looking at their team. There's not one person besides Ryan Jeffers who splits time and Royce Lewis, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:45:47 who is just, yeah, we love Royce Lewis. He's been incredible. Royce Lewis is just getting you know, his feet wet in the big, in the big leagues. He has an 825 OPS
Starting point is 00:45:57 and Jeffers is an 804 OPS. Everybody else under, under 800. And there's only a few guys are the seven. So it's like, yeah, it's just not,
Starting point is 00:46:06 going to get it done. Trev, this bop around episode, it's a great time to remind people we will be bopping around Seattle. If you're going to be out there for All-Star Week, look at BVD with the graphic. Shout out to our guys, Matt, Blake, Sarah, Gavin, that help with our graphics and our t-shirts and everything. Sick, Sick All-Star Game shirts coming, by the way. We will be out there Tuesday, July 11th. We are hosting an event at Optimism Brewing, company in Seattle. We had VIP tickets sold out because everyone wants to see Chris Rose and Trevor Plouffe and Jolly Olive and BBD, I guess myself. But there are still tickets. We're doing a live talking baseball. We're doing a live ref guest. It'll be some John Boy media content. So, hey,
Starting point is 00:46:59 you know, if you think this is your audition, that's a scary thought process. So probably don't come in with that mindset. But it's going to be a ton of fun. We've done this the past few years. now third year in a row there's a link in the description come on through we've had a blast every year it's such a good community of baseball fans and we'd love to see if you're out there so come on through trab i think we do a final kind of whip around there's one series of good baseball that i feel like we haven't touched and that's uh reds orioles hello uh the other thing that I just think needs to be noted before we do a more traditional second half of the show. Trev, some teams are digging holes right now, like the final holes. Padres lost two to the pirates.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Mets are Cohen's hosting pressers. Who was the other day? Mariners have lost their series to the nationals. Like, we're in full-blown, like everything we kind of said in a good way about the guardians like, hey, we've kind of missed you this year. And you guys have landed in a good spot. And I hope that keeps going. These other teams we've kind of missed you this year because we've been waiting for the go switch. And I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Like, it's almost Trevor Plouf announces you dead time. I mean, gosh, every franchise wants us to pronounce them dead. I don't know if we like, the guardians, they've landed in a good spot because of the division. Right. You're still under five hundred. It's true. You can't, like, sing the praises of the twins or the guardians if you're sitting at under 500. I mean, like, get over 500, guys.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Like, that's, makes me mad, to be honest with you. Yes, there are holes being dug. Seattle with the All-Star game there this year, like, the high hopes that they had. I mean, that just hasn't come to fruition at all. And, like, it's been consistently bad. I want to see what their record is, month to month. I'm going to get it up right now. Get it up. I got it right here.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Got a little something in my throat. Yeah, you're okay. That a boy. One in one in March, tight. 11 and 15 in April. So you dig yourself a little hole, but then you get out of it in May. You go 17 and 11. Things are looking good. Hey, we can do this. 9 and 14 in June. Yeah. Is there a run of baseball still left in the Seattle team? Gosh, it's If I'm a betting, man, I say yes, there's still a run of baseball in this Seattle team.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Okay. Do you not, I mean, I know that Mariners fans don't feel it that way. Let me rephrase it a little bit. Padres, Mets, Mariners. If you had to pick one of them that you're in on, like, I think they turn this around, they go, they figure it out. Oh, my gosh. Crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:50:08 I don't think I'm in. I don't think I'm in. on the Mets in that equation. Okay. Which, by the way, if you told us that before the season, that's crazy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I agree. And I'm like, do I have, do I have like a great reason for that? Not really. They just, I probably have a great reason for feeling like one of these other two teams
Starting point is 00:50:35 is going to go on a run. I would say I would, the Mariners. Okay. You know I'm an old school guy back in my day pitching. They're first in whip in the big leagues from their starters. Okay. It means something, dude.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah. They don't walk anybody, anybody. The bullpen's fine. Fourth and bullpen ERA, the whips up there a little bit. That doesn't mean, I mean, bullpen to me is, they got guys in the back end of the bullpen. I think I'm going Mariners in that scenario. I mean, it's tough for me to not say the Padres, too, just because of the name brands on the team.
Starting point is 00:51:18 But if you're asking me and I'm coming up with an answer on the spot, I think I think the Mariners still have a run in them. But dang, they got a tough division and they're, they haven't really shown that fight yet. If you asked me two days ago, I would have said the Padres and they just lost two to the pirates who are coming off one of the, one of the worst months of baseball. I don't know, man. All of these teams, it's tough to fight. find it, but you know in the story of baseball that, like, one of them probably should.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Like, we'll be talking about one of these teams as the, wow, that awful first half, but look how good they were in the second half. In my head, it was the Padres because they still, they've been missing offense. Like, the defense and pitching has been good, and their team strength should be offense. But it's hard to buy into any of those three, man. Seattle hasn't hit Julio hasn't been what they need him to be
Starting point is 00:52:20 on that offense and then I just looked at their schedule they got the rays coming to town before going to visit the Giants some big boy baseball needs to be played so you know
Starting point is 00:52:34 get your big boy pants and go do it I guess right doing some digging if last year on this day. The Mariners were 20 and 28 and 6.5 out of a wild card spot. They're technically is this when I pronounce them dead now? When did Trev pronounce them dead last year? When did Mike trout drive the zombie stake through the Mariners that started their season? Beams, you can go
Starting point is 00:53:05 look that up. I'm looking. I'm looking. It wasn't June. I know that. June. I know sometime June. they lost two out of three. It was just over a year ago, I believe. June 19th was the end of the series where they got swept. So from June 21st on, you have the craziest look in your eye right now. There were 10 games for 500.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I've seen that look a couple times. I don't know. A lot of teams are asking me to do it. The Mets fans have been, the most vocal in my timeline about asking me to pronounce them dead. Yes, the Padres fans after losing two to the national... Oh, wait, who's playing the nationals right now? The Mariners.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Oh, okay, so that's been recently in my timeline a lot. Hey, you got to do it now. I don't know, man. I don't have the same feeling. Okay. I don't have the same feeling. I actually kind of believe in this team. It's crazy that they hate hearing that.
Starting point is 00:54:13 People are mad that we were talking about the Braves and how good they are. They're like, oh, I can't believe the national media now is talking about it. It's like, shut up, dude. Do you think I'm national media? Like, yeah, are we the best show in the history of baseball? Yes, they don't call me national media. I don't associate with national media. I don't.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Sorry. We're not. And when you say shit like that, it makes me mad. Trev, my final notes in this area before we go to the next part of the show. Phillies have won their two games against the Cubbies. By the way, Cubbies, be careful. Don't lose your guy's momentum. Marlins took two from the Red Sox, by the way.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Phillies have been, I think, the second hottest team in baseball, depending how you knife it up. But they've lost ground on the Braves because that's the division. But they've fully turned their season around. They deserve some love. And then like I said to you before, you know, a series that could have rivaled for best series and two teams that I think are shadowing each other.
Starting point is 00:55:20 The Reds and the Orioles comes down to extra innings on the final day. And dude, there is just young talent all over the field. Orioles fans were mad. We didn't talk about Austin Hayes more and our semi-deserving All-Stars. He was the next, when we cut one at the end real quick, he's the one that got cut. Ain't that it?
Starting point is 00:55:38 Our guy Will Benson is. like having big days at the office. Andrew Abbott drops it again. They're starting to add Will Benson and all to the promos about the young guys coming up and doing it. The McLean's in the steers. Like he's now being put into that group,
Starting point is 00:55:57 which is awesome, dude. Abbott with another great start. They hold the Orioles in that game to one run. A day after the Orioles put up a freaking 10 spot on him. So hey, Abbott, you're the stopper. Hunter Green, I think, is just, they just announced he's going to be out until August. So he'll be fresh. He'll be fresh then.
Starting point is 00:56:19 They got to figure that out. I'm sorry, dude. I keep saying that about them. But then they fight back. Get that last game. And that's kind of like, dude, when you're hot, you win games like that. Oh, shout out the Reds, man. Sorry, Gibby.
Starting point is 00:56:37 That was not a great start. Four and two-thirds, six earnies, but you're facing one of the hotter offenses in baseball. They were 26 and 33, and now they're 43 and 38. So are they 17 and 5? I mean, with the expanded wild card and that division,
Starting point is 00:56:56 that's enough. And the other guy that we kind of leave him out every time, and by war, he's been their best player, T.J. Friedel. And I don't know. You started not in a lot. Yeah, people are mad that we, you know, everyone's talking about Elie de la Cruz. And yeah, he's got all these, you know, tools and he produces the highlight plays.
Starting point is 00:57:20 He's like, there's more to this lineup than just Elie DeL the Cruz. Like, yeah, everyone knows, dude. You guys are, you know, a wagon up and down right now. It's been your calling car. Like, the offense has been absolutely electric. It's been great. And it's been led by a bunch of different guys. So I'm glad you mentioned him.
Starting point is 00:57:35 T.J. Friedel, 320, 388, 885 OPS, 14 steel. Will Benson now 848 OPS. These guys, bang, dude. Matt McLean's in the nine's OPS-wise. Like, Stork King, Matt McClain. Jonathan India date your daughter? You know what? I'd be happy for my daughter.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I'd be happy for it's a nice pull. I'd get it. There'd be some weird stuff on the boat, but... Jake Fraley, you get mentioned on the show too. Love you, bro. Like, there's guys doing it up and down the lineup. We get it. You get it.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Your boy, Jordan Westberg shows up in this series for the Orioles. It's going to be a fun second half, Trev. And it's going to be a fun second half of this show. No ad. Buy a shirt. Boom. Next. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Standout performances. Standout performances. The standout that I am going with, and now I've got to get down there. Love this for you, Trev. You talk about my team, the Marlins, and we know what their calling card is. They twirl the pill. They got a few guys that can bang the ball around,
Starting point is 00:58:56 but they've been missing probably, you know, one of their, not probably, one of their offensive cogs in the lineup has been out since for like 38 days, over a month he's been gone, and he comes back in his retirement. turn goes three for four with a double three RBIs, two runs, and a hit by a pitch, and it is Jazz Chisholm, Jr, baby. I mean, look, I think they're probably the most unsung team of the year.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Like, we give all these other teams so much love, and we're talking about this team, talk about that thing, we're talking about the Phillies playing great ball. We're talking about Baltimore. Oh my gosh, they're like in that second tier. Dude, Miami is, what, like one and a half game is back of Baltimore? They're 47. and 34 right now. Like they're putting a hurry on these, on these teams. They're winning series, dude. They win one-run games.
Starting point is 00:59:51 They do it, man. They're six to a half back in the division only because Atlanta is absolutely crushing. I think they'd be ahead in every other division. They'd be one game back of the West. So right now they have the third best record in the National League. And like the fifth or sixth best record in all of it. baseball. And now they're getting back an important offensive piece to their team. And they have a guy
Starting point is 01:00:19 named Joey. Joey, Joey Wendell. Yeah, he's on the team too. So, I mean, it's exciting, dude. I hope that they continue on this run and they make us national media members talk about them because they deserve to be talked about. Jazz Chisholm back. You're my standout. That's, third best record in the National League. Wow. Jazz is different, man. Different maker. Add in him where they're at in the standings.
Starting point is 01:00:56 That's one of those. Tilt your head moments. 24th and runs right now. Let's check back of that in a month. Man. Joey Wendell a little four for four the other day. Whoops. Whoops.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Sorry about you. Trev, if you want to get Chris Rose all sorts of baseball horny in a little bit, what if I told you what Shohay did on Tuesday might be more impressive than what Domingo Hermann did last night? We talk about Shohay quite a bit. Honestly, we can stand to do it some more. Chris, Chris Rose, you know, he starts talking Shohay, Michelle Rose, watch out. Oh, my God. Shohei Otani on Tuesday night,
Starting point is 01:01:48 6.1 innings pitched, one earned run, 10 strikeouts. He also hits three for three with two homers in a game that he had the fortitude to win 4 to 2. Shohei Mania for this season, fully left the station with this start because what he's doing is insanity, and we say that as many times as we can,
Starting point is 01:02:17 and sometimes he still don't drive it home enough. He's on pace for a 12.2 war season. June Lee said he's doing, he's currently doing what Max Scherzer did last year and what Manny Machado did last year, if you combined him. Mani Machado was second in the MVP by himself. it's unreal trev and i i now talk myself in circles about you saying that he should be the MVP every year
Starting point is 01:02:51 because in a way you're not wrong i i still think judge should have been it last year but it's hard to refute that show hey shouldn't be it so like uh it's unreal and even tyler glasnow on the chris rose rotation this week who's you know a freak show in it his own right. On his best day, he's one of the 10 people in the world that can be Show Hey, Otani pitching wise. He told Chris Rose, like, I, you know, people ask me if I believe in aliens. I tell him I've seen one. It's Shohei. What he's doing, I don't know, man. I mean, I don't know how many times we said this on this show, but if you can go watch Show Hey, go watch. Like, if he comes to your city, just go watch. Even if he's not pitching. It's great if you can
Starting point is 01:03:41 catch him starting and hitting at the same time. times. I think that's obviously where the mystique comes from, but just go watch this guy because he is, he's going to be talked about forever in baseball. And like, there's good players, like,
Starting point is 01:03:56 but they don't get talked about forever. There's great players. They don't get talked about forever. Shohei Otani will be talked about forever. As long as there's baseball being played in the world, people will talk about Shohei Otani. You have to realize that, so go see this guy play.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Buy some of his baseball cards. Seriously. Like, holy. I'm glad he brought him up. That was a great series. You know, before he hits the two homers. Or did he... The second game, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah, the second game. So the first game hits a homer off a cease that was loud as can be. Him and Lubbob kind of... Sorry, Lubbob. Go back and forth with the homers. That was the walk-off well pitch. Moose is there. They stole two bases.
Starting point is 01:04:39 How about that for show? Hey, him and Mike Trout, double steel. to set up the winning run. Love that. So they went two of those games. The narrative has changed in Anahearns in Anaheim for the LA Angels. They're keeping Shohei. Like there's no doubt about it.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Like they're going to go for it. I'm curious what moves they're going to make. Like they have a good squad. If they can get their pitching like synced up, like, Detmer's just fucking nasty, dude. That first game was fun, dude. Detmer's and Seesko and toe to toe and your homers. Your home runs in that game, Lubbob, Otani and Trout.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Like, yeah. Yeah. And then even in that second game, like, the White Sox made it a game. Estavis gets to double play with the bases loaded up two in the ninth. Like, good baseball being played. Like, they need Netto back, in my opinion. I think he's kind of like, makes them go a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:05:44 But yeah, good standout. I'll give you a little Jakey shower thoughts. Trout is one of the most unique dudes of all time. He was like consensus best baseball player for a decade. There's an argument. You know, he's one of the best baseball players of all time, depending how this winds down for him. And by the way, when I say winds down for him,
Starting point is 01:06:09 I think he's currently, you know, 849 OPS. I think that's come down a little bit recently. But he's still Mike Trout. He's still balling out. Kind of going back to, you know, Japanese players batting stance and they win the WBC and, you know, how do we teach the game and play the game, right?
Starting point is 01:06:29 I think there's going to be a funny moment, like 30 years from now, maybe 10 years from now, maybe a week from now, where we're like, yeah, you know, Mike Trout was the best player for a decade. and then, you know, Otani came over. And they were like, well, was he, was he faster than Otani? Uh, not, not really.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Otani, you know, straight line speed. I think Otani, Antony had a beat. He's like, well, he had more power than Otani, right? No, no. No. And so, wait, Otani pitched two? Yeah. It's just when you, when you actually think of it, like,
Starting point is 01:07:09 that it's uh it's fun and i i think i'm going full chris rose if there's an otani start i'm watching because it's it's that special it's that special um man trev a lot of patrick corbin made the potential standout performance list yes he did holy smokes kershaw every start gavin williams can you tell me who's been uh Nasty's on Fuego That means I'm on fire, baby Like Waco Damn chalk
Starting point is 01:07:46 Oh, we didn't even do a series We're just because a series are over Yeah For the week of June 22nd Through June 28th Our guy Louis Robert Jr. 9 for 26 5 homers he liked hitting in Anaheim
Starting point is 01:08:07 7 RBI 6 runs for a 1.0.1.6 runs for a 1.2. How about Ronald Acuna Jr.? A lot of juniors doing it. 11 for 29. 2 doubles, four homers, five ribbies, eight runs, three walks, five stolen bases. He passed Freddie Freeman for the most
Starting point is 01:08:24 regular season home runs at Truis Park was 72. Garrett Cooper, speaking of Miami in their offense, 11 for 23. That's a 4.78 average. Two doubles, two homers, six ribbies. Brandon Marsh, who's kind of been going all season long? Like, is he the guy
Starting point is 01:08:40 that nobody talks about enough? Kind of not. Nine for 16, two doubles, two homers, five ribbies for a 1.6. So he batted 186 with a homer in 48Ks and a 500 OPS in 118 played appearances from May 10th through June 18th. Not good.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Since then, since June 18th, he's got back on the wagon. He's batting 600 with two homers and only 2Ks for a 1.6. What's his overall? numbers. Can you check that out right now? I guess I can get to that. Who do you want? I got it right here, guys. Brandon Marsh.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Yeah, 834 OPS, 365 OBP. Solid, solid player right there. He's on the Enflago list. And then a starting pitcher for the Seattle Mariners, who I said, can go on a run. Brian, Woo! Yeah. He's got nice heater, man. Two games. Two games started. 10 and the third
Starting point is 01:09:37 innings pitched. Only one earned run. 12K. doing it. For two weeks, and this is the list you want to be on people, I'm telling you. My birthday, June 15th, how about that? Did you wish me a happy birthday? If you didn't, you better do it right now in the comment section. Through June 28th, Shohay Otani, we mentioned him a lot. 17 for 47, seven homers in those two weeks, man.
Starting point is 01:10:00 He also pitched. Yeah. He went two and one, 19 in the third innings pitched with only four in runs. That's a 1.86 ERA. I'm going to say that again. He hit 362 in these two weeks with seven homers. And then he pitched in three games. 19 and a third innings pitched.
Starting point is 01:10:19 And only four runs for a 186 ERA. If you think he's not the MVP, you are an imbecile. Sorry. How about Zeke Duran though for Texas? 19 for 45 in this time. Four doubles, three homers, five ribbies, a stolen base. He became the first Texas battered to Homer on the 12th or higher pitch of an abat since Adrian Belchray did it in 2011 against the Angels.
Starting point is 01:10:41 I like that. Long at Bats ending in a homer, the most satisfying thing you can have as a baseball player, as a hitter. Just talked about this guy. Reed Detmer's of the Los Angeles Angels. Two games started in that time. He's gone 14 innings pitch. Divide that and half, Jake.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Go. Not a math. Seven. Not a math guy. Yeah, it's seven. 14 divided by two is seven. You weren't listening to me. That's why I gave you that.
Starting point is 01:11:07 18Ks for a 0.6. Only one run in those 14-nings pitch for a 0.64 and a 0.5 whip over his past four starts. Detmer's has a 105 ERA with 34 strikeouts. He struck out eight or higher in all four of those games. And then to end off in Fuego, how about the closer, Devin Williams, for your, our Milwaukee Brewers. In six games, he's got five saves. He's pitched six innings, only one hit seven Ks. that came after I saw him get beat up by our twins.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Lockdown ever since then. Shout out Devin Williams. Shout out all the guys that are in Fuego. Trev, I did zone out for a minute, and I'm sorry, but I'll explain why. A couple notes. Brandon Marsh, you know, been around the league a little while. Brandon Marsh is 25 years old.
Starting point is 01:12:03 25 years old. He might just be breaking out and being good. Uh, reedembers. Read Detmers came to the office, lefty, getting hot. 23. Yes, yeah, young guy. And to cap it all off, Brian Wu, who gets a shout out there.
Starting point is 01:12:27 A, I'm going to invest in this a little bit. I won't be surprised if he ends up on one of your hot boy lists in a year or two. Good looking young fella, he's 23. I think those two years of Major League ruggedness will put them in a real good place. And I'm going to make a push. I did this on Talking Yanks. Brian Wu,
Starting point is 01:12:53 950 Twitter followers. Let's get Woo Woo Woo Bear over a thousand. All right, I'm going to go follow it. Let's get Woo Woo Bear over a thousand. Because he's... And I need to see more pictures of him, but I can see he's got the... is this really him though?
Starting point is 01:13:13 That's really him, man. All right. He's followed by a guy that I know following. 98052. Hey, I missed a few things, and then I have to give my award because Chris Rose has a something happening that I have to get to baseball today.
Starting point is 01:13:29 So I missed that there is a month long in Fuego. There are guys that we want to talk about. Donnie added that this week because we had to negate the series. And maybe if we're into the month thing, kind of a rolling player of the month. I don't know. Kind of love it.
Starting point is 01:13:43 So the hitter is Shohei Otani. He went 39 for 99 this month. Okay. That's a 394 average. He hit 13 homers this month. Had driven, drove in 26 runs. Not to mention what he does on the hill, people. Go see Shohei play.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I can't stress that enough. As a starter, I'm going to let you pick real quick. Blake Snell. Blake Snell, five games. 31 innings pitch, three earned runs. 0.87 ERA, 53Ks in those innings in 31. Or Yuri Perez, also five games started, 28 innings pitched, only one earned run in 35Ks for a 0.32 ERA.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Who are you picking? I love Snell. Snell got my award a couple weeks ago. I'll go Yuri Perez, dude. The kid, I just mentioned a couple of age. He's 20, right? So. 20.
Starting point is 01:14:42 He's 20. That's a problem. That's a problem. And then this one is the winner of the reliever of the month. Sure. Is Emmanuel Clause. He's got seven saves, 11 and a third innings pitched in those saves. Zero earned runs for a zero ERA, 15Ks.
Starting point is 01:15:03 He is filthy. And a big reason why the Guardians flopped. Mike Vince. I'm going to put something into the ether. I don't believe or know if it's going to happen. You know, some playoffs would have to take place. What about a little Braves Marlins playoff series this year? Love it.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Yuri Perez, Sandy, and then, you know, pick your poison between Cabrera, Braxton, Garrett. It probably won't line up that way. Lizarro. Because they're going to have to go through a wild card and then play the Braves who have had a buy. Why not go through the wild card? Why not? um um bebes hit it do you if you're a coach do you put the pencil here or are you behind the ear guy i'm a behind the ear me too this is not it that's not the look no it's not it's try hard
Starting point is 01:16:01 all right guys i'm giving um your favorite players favorite player award um this is a guy who if you know the show you probably already know who i'm going to talk about because he is like my idol on the baseball field. I've had plenty of mentors. Justin Orneau, big factor in my career. Joe Mower, big factor in my career. Josh Willingham, huge factor in my career, guys that I leaned on that I played with. But if there was one guy that I looked around the league and just wanted to be like, and I still like want to be like this guy. And I don't envy a lot of people, dude. I don't. I love my life. I'm happy, man.
Starting point is 01:16:45 But, like, I, like, want to follow this guy's model. It's Evan Longoria. Like, the consistency that he's had playing ball. Like, he can still play a great third base. He's hitting the ball really well this year. Right now, he's got the 871 OPS. Bro, he's slugging 569. long ago doing it
Starting point is 01:17:11 and he's not a young inn no he's how are you only 260 days older than me oh my gosh I thought you were way older than that 37 years old right now still doing it this is why I envy him he's in great shape
Starting point is 01:17:27 he did something when he homered against the rays that put him in a category only 70 people ever to play the game have homered against all the other teams in the league. He accomplished that.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Now, I don't know another guy that's more universally liked around baseball than Longo. Like, talk to anybody, like, yes, Longo was guy, guy, great teammate, has been doing it for so long. He's in the Rays Hall of Fame, no doubt, like, statue guy type player
Starting point is 01:18:03 for the Rays. I'm going to throw out there, like, he's like close to the Hall of Fame. And in my Hall of Fame, he's in. Like he's 59 career war right now. Go check out guys like Harold Baines who I don't,
Starting point is 01:18:19 he's in the Hall of Fame because of longevity. He played a long time. I think he's got like a career 39 career war or something like that. Longo has that working for him. 342 homers. He's almost at 2,000 hits. Like I know those numbers aren't like
Starting point is 01:18:36 the traditional Hall of Fame numbers. But again, I'll keep saying, we need to stop thinking about the Hall of Fame like that because it's just not how it goes anymore. Like the specialty pitching is different now. Like, you know, guys have shorter careers because of the way front offices think about dollars and where they can find the values. Like, it just doesn't happen. Longgo's been able to have a long career. But like, he's on the cusp of the Hall of Fame. He's one of my favorite players. And yesterday to top it all off not only to become the 70th player to hit a home run against all the teams which i think is just like awesome um he sent our team the snakes who won the championship
Starting point is 01:19:18 a video saying congratulations and we played it for the boys and they were so fired up dude like big leaguer evan longoria and i've been like telling him like this isn't my guy so they were so fired up sent a great video and i just like man like there's just no any better than him i love him wanted to give my award. Your favorite player's favorite player award goes to you, Evan Long Gore, you freaking beautiful stud. He's handsome too. He's been on my hot boy list. Yeah. Snakes on snakes on snakes. Trev, I thought it was 69 players. In fact, it's 70s still cool. You know, put that one in your pipe and smoke it. We've been saying that a lot recently. And yeah, man, Tread, there's something to getting old that I'm starting to appreciate a little bit
Starting point is 01:20:02 that Evan Longoria style too Like everything this guy does Is legit He's a fan of our content too He's come to the content house He's commenting on everything Sometimes it's mean
Starting point is 01:20:13 He likes Joe's He doesn't care Yeah He loves Joe's He lets it fly on social media That's great dude I'm telling you You know he
Starting point is 01:20:23 You turn 30 in sports And once you turn 30 You realize a little bit What that means And you know Those 30 31 34. He's like a league average player, which what you're saying, you know, before 30, this guy is a
Starting point is 01:20:38 Hall of Fame, perennial All-Star candidate kind of player. The last three years, whatever was in the water in San Francisco, whether it's rest or taking care of your body or whatever it is, the last three years, he's been an 813 OPS hitter. He's got 871 OPS this year, leading the baby snakes around the fucking snake charmer Evan Longoria He is I guarantee you talk to people
Starting point is 01:21:08 In that clubhouse And they'll say he's a massive reason Why they're where they're at Like the prep work that he does The leadership that he has Just the demeanor that he has Sometimes I'm gonna tell people on our show To go root for certain players
Starting point is 01:21:25 Because I just know they're good people And do things the right way this is the guy you root for. I mean, he looks so good in that uni, too. It's a good-looking guy. If you're a ball player, model yourself after Evan Longoria. That's the bottom line. Trev, I'll go quick.
Starting point is 01:21:44 I know Chris Rose needs you, but you're going to like this fun fact real quick because we miss this series. We miss this team, and this is a team that we're not always the most popular with. But I'm going to give out not your ball player's favorite ball player, but a favorite ball player to a lot.
Starting point is 01:22:08 I think we've got some content coming out soon, and this was from a fanatics list, and we think it's right, and there's no reason to really think it's wrong. Number one selling jersey in baseball is Shohei Otani, and that adds up for a lot of different reasons. Any guess who's number number two? Any guess who's been number two?
Starting point is 01:22:30 I think this is from the start of 2022. Start of 2022. I believe. I believe. This was, we got ice got involved, so sometimes the sources aren't great, but I believe in them.
Starting point is 01:22:42 I think they did good. Eish. Yeah. Tough question, right? My guess would have been judged, but I don't think we're talking about it. It is not judge.
Starting point is 01:22:53 No, no, no. It's not jazz, although I thought maybe that could be him. Not a coverable. Hit me, bro. Wander Franco. Sometimes we get, sometimes in baseball we can get bored of...
Starting point is 01:23:09 That's a stupid guess. That's a stupid guess. Sometimes we get bored of... Sometimes we get bored of the same stuff. This guy had, you know, one of his top two or three seasons last year. This guy won the World Series. This guy had a nice night the other night
Starting point is 01:23:25 beaten down the St. Louis Cardinals. Jose Al Tuve. Jose Altuve. He gave us a little hint there. I should have got that. Sometimes, man, we get caught up in the new pretty thing and this, this, that, and the other. Altuve 846 OPS this year since he's been back. And, you know, winning the World Series helps sling some jerseys and stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Wasn't a big Astros episode? My short king, Altuva, slinging jerseys, by the way, there might be another astro on that list. We've got a video coming out on it soon. But we didn't cover that series. Al Tuve had a big game the other day. He's back. And it's been the lurking monster all year, right? Are they, when's Yordan coming back?
Starting point is 01:24:14 When's Houston going to join the party? They will. And Altuve will be there right in the thick of it. And he's doing it again. So, hey, a little bit of a funky episode. Thursday, bouncing around the room. Big NASCAR weekend. Go check out Trevor.
Starting point is 01:24:32 and Chris Rose on baseball today, Trev, have a good weekend. Trick sucks. I love you. I love you like Longo. I love you like Longo. Man, if the three of us ever went out together, look out. Keep your girl close.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Not going to do anything. We're all happily married. That's another thing I love about him. Happily married. You got kids. He loves his kids. Brings him to the park. Adam LaRoche

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