Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - Yankees to the ALCS and HUGE Game 5s Coming Up | 905

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

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or if it got out to the West Coast yet, but the New York Yankees are going to the ALCS. I'm very happy for you guys. I told you before the show started, and I feel bad saying this because we do have a lot of Kansas City Royals fans listening. It felt like a little sad, although there were some close moments there yesterday,

a couple balls that could have gotten out of the park on a different night. It just felt inevitable that the Yankees were going to move on. You know, without, you know, big series from Bobby Witt, without a big series from Vinny, the Royals just seemed a little bit, you know, overmatch, undergun, whatever you will. So I'm happy for you guys. A little sad for the Royals,

although, dude, what a turnaround season for them. But now you have to wait to see who wins. between the Guardians and the Tigers. I don't know who you want, to be honest with you. Yankee fans, the thing I kept saying was take it to game five. Because if Scoobel and the kiddies got it done yesterday, scoble could have been lined up for 147, 157. Yeah.

And he's currently the bad man of this playoffs, and we'll find out if he still is tomorrow night. That's going to be a fun one. The people of Cleveland, you know I'm a sports guy. Ohio State, basically, with one game on their regular season. Well, one and a half games. Oregon, two verse three tomorrow, and then obviously Ohio State Michigan. And they're scheduled at the same time.

So it's 8 p.m. So all those Ohio State Guardian fans are going to be feeling, feeling all the beautiful sports emotions tomorrow. Honestly, Yankee fans are let us know who's there. And that's a little bit of a Yankees mentality. I mean, it's also lucky that Houston isn't an option because then it would be the other, whoever they were playing. But I don't know.

We've seen now in Detroit and Cleveland why both of these teams are at this point. Pretty electric little Caesar's pizza flying around yesterday. Are you going to burn this thing? Yeah, let's, uh, I'll be rude to our central. Let's, um, let's chew through Yankees Royals quick because I think there's actually more to chew through in, uh, Cleveland and Detroit. But let, let's get our yanks and royals out of the way. Oh, wait, peeps. I don't have it.

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Hit the music. Yankees trying to go to the ALCF find their $300 million a's. Eric Cole needing him to be money versus the Kansas City Royals and Michael. Waka, Waka, walka, walka. He tries to bear down versus the Yanks. Top one, SOTO Soto. He's about to make those 300 million. dollar men. Cheap RBI single in the first one nothing yanks and stay that way into the fifth

Clayburg gets icy with his RBI single it's two nothing make it three junk carlo you don't have to hit the music but he is playoff ready three nothing yanks a pasquatch siding was the only thing that got to cole seven innings pitch one earn run four case Garrett cole to clay homes to dream weaver glad we are Casey's Lord as we'll never be royal the Yanks win 3-1 and take the series 3-1 See you in the CS How was that stream last night

There was a couple of scares there Pop Sure Yeah and I know that I think what you said It's a little It's slightly dismissive Of Kansas City Because this was a

This was a pitching series Yes, it was. Outside of the, you know, even game one, I felt like there was a lot of runs that came on whatever plays. That, yeah, I mean, there is a lot of good pitching. There was some defense, but it was hard to scratch across runs that, you know, if Kansas City runs into one ball, if Kyle Isbell's ball gets out, you know, Rodon, who had the worst start in this series,

he would have been game five against Colerigan. So I understand what you're saying. Like, you know, when Detroit knocked out Houston and the Yanks were sitting here against Kansas City and, you know, not even Baltimore, who was one of the favorites coming into the year. The American League is lined up for the Yankees. And Yankee fans are horrified to say that, obviously, because that over the past 15 years, if you were to say something like that, you would have been wrong. But this was another. Garrett Cole showed why he's that guy. and enough from the Yankees lineup to get it done.

Yeah, I think Labor was a huge part of the series and then obviously a tone setter for last night's game. He starts the game off scores on Soto's single. That's awesome. And then, of course, in that top of the first, you have Aaron Judge versus Michael Walker, which is not a good matchup for Judge. He hits into a double play.

I just thought that was funny. I mean, you used to get this start. Glaver double, Soto's angle, judge double play. It's just like, there are just pitchers, man, that have your number. But yeah, I mean, enough from Stanton comes through like he always has in the postseason. And then you're right. I think, you know, Cole stepping up and putting together a really, really good start, pitching around a little bit of trouble. And then the Yankees have found their bullpen. I think the numbers end up being 15 and two thirds innings pitch nowhere in runs in the series, which is, you know, I was telling C. Rosie this, like, you know, every single postseason,

there's a bullpen that we don't consider one of the best bullpens that comes and just kind of takes over a series or takes over the postseason. And right now, I mean, we know that the guardians and the tigers have this great bullpen, but we didn't really have that for the Yankees. And they've been phenomenal. And I think they've been probably the biggest reason why we're seeing the Yankees move on to the ALCS. Yeah, Clay Holmes ends up pitching the second most innings for any Yankee in this series. It was Garrett Cole and then Clay Holmes. So Clay Holmes would have been the ire of Yankee fans.

Slash, they wanted to see him in a different role. And you saw him. He kind of was that fireman role. He went back to throwing his kind of turbo sinker as his featured pitch. And Luke Weaverman is becoming a star of these playoffs. You know, there's a lot of fan bases. I saw Mariners fans posting some Luke Weaver clips yesterday. Diamondbacks fans are like, wait, who is this cat?

Because, you know, over seven, eight seasons, he was one of the worst starting pitchers in the league. Like, just statistically based. And he has come in and he's taken over the Yankees closer job, which, you know, Treve, I'm not going to full Yankee you. and tell you that, you know, arguably the, you know, one of the best pitchers to ever play the sport came from that Yankees closer role. And a lot of Yankee fans have been spoiled by having a closer role that we've seen Araldis Chapman come through. And Yankee fans haven't like been in love with them. Even like, you know, Raphael Soriano, some of these other closers that have come in and we've been like, you know, good year. And it's like, dude, they were, they were nails.

You just can't compare him to the guy we grew up with. Luke Weaver dominant, not scary Clay Holmes, 10 pitches. Luke Weaver, nine pitches. To close out a playoff series, that's a special feat. That's an easy fan watch, especially when you've got Garrett Cole grinding through the first seven. Yeah, and it wasn't like some big league. I mean, this is a legit save opportunity for Weaver. He gets in there, middle of the lineup gets Vinny on three pitches, Sal on four pitches.

like you're right. I mean, that's when you have a guy that you really, really trust in the back end, I think it's, you know, like you just mentioned as a fan just helps you out a little bit. And who knows? I mean, do you still, do you feel now? I mean, he hasn't been in this job for that long, whatever it is. What is it, like six weeks maybe, maybe less? Do you still, do you feel like ultimately comfortable in the next series and into the world series? I feel like he's proven that, yeah, you can feel that way, right? Yeah, I mean, feel great at least going into the next series. It's a playoff, so things can happen quickly.

But no, man, he has been this guy pretty much all season long. He had one stretch there where he was giving up some homers, couple stadium jobs, couple, you know, as you know, hitters fight back that it's like, okay, so Luke Weaver's a new pitcher now. But Trevor was really impressive. He, his first couple outings, heavy fastball. and he's a fastball change-up cutter guy. And he didn't even throw his cutter in this series.

And he didn't start throwing his change-up until this series. So, you know, some of this future of baseball and something to track as series go on, and we'll talk about it a little bit with Class A and the Guardians. But, like, they planned on not showing all their tricks early, which, you know, the other side of that risk reward is if him, or Clay had got hit while they were throwing fastball only earlier in the series. You'd say, how could you, how could you only throw fastballs? How come you didn't throw your second pitch?

Every button the Yankees pressed this series ended up working out for them. John Birdie and his Waldo Cabrera playing first base. Yep. Sure. Sure. Alex Verdugo and Jason Dominguez. Alex Verdugo, he hit early on. He didn't hit late.

But his defense, what he was out there for, in a big Kaufman Stadium left field and a big Yankee stadium left field. That ended up being more important for playoff baseball that, yeah, Yankee fans, you know, there's times that we can be a little ugly. There's times you can call us out and you're like, shut up, you guys have the best record.

Why are you guys so mad about? The Yankees, they had one real defensive miss queue in game one. Otherwise, they pitched the hell out of the ball and the spin zone now that they've advanced, they did it without Aaron Judge. And he had a couple good at bats by the end of this one. And if you track playoff series, if you're a guy like him and you have a bad one,

normally the next one turns out pretty good. So Yankee fans, as you can tell, feeling pretty good. Feeling really, really good. And you should. I thought that, you know, the best inning of the game for Kansas City Royals fans was, you know, Tommy Fam gets on base. He's three for three off Garrett Cole. There's nothing, I mean, obviously a guy like Tommy Fam is going to own Garrett Cole.

I don't know what the career numbers are. I know they're pretty good. It does. It's hilarious. He gets on and then, yeah, Kyle Spel hits that ball and I didn't see the stream. So I don't know, you know, what you guys were thinking or saying, but I can tell that. that was pretty scary for you.

Sort of back at the wall and then. The stream went quiet for a second. I won't say it was a cool confidence. It was no offense to Kyle Isbell, who is a great defensive outfielder. If Pasquintino had put that swing on, I think it would have been a little scarier for a minute. But yeah, and that's, it's, I think, well,

I guess if we had lost, maybe I wouldn't say beauty of baseball. But, dude, the baseball stadiums were a huge factor in these games. Like there was a lot of warning track fly balls that were homers in 20 plus stadiums. You know, in Yankee Stadium, if you remember, this series started off with two unicorn homers. So it's one of those things that's just like this sport can be so beautifully bizarre sometimes. Hey, I'm sitting on the fun side today and Royals fans. Man, the Vinny injury and the way they came into the playoffs was pretty brutal. That game won, dude, like Jazz Chisholm scores the, what's the game-winning run on a play that he very easily could have been called out on twice.

That, yeah, I think if you're a Royals fan, you're obviously not feeling good today, you're looking at that game one like damn dude like we we were there and then these final two games they just couldn't get enough going offensively um and you know i talked about it in endearing way and Tommy fam who BBD just sent the numbers he he dominates Garrett Cole i think 11 for 29 couple homers that's a lot of at hats by the way um some some throwback nL central at bats there Pittsburgh Cole Tommy fam on what St. Louis. Yeah, hey, Kansas City is not going to take any solace in it now. I think more so they can look to next season and be like, hey, we've got a rotation in place.

They know what they need. They need more hitting. And it was good seeing Kansas City in a postseason game. I don't know. They don't want to hear any of this shit for me. So I'll stop. yeah i mean look they definitely can look how many games they win last year 56 to turn it around the way they did we talked about that all season long to turn it around play the ball that they did and obviously

they had to get off season but to go and put you know that product on the field and win those games was nothing short of you know spectacular for the city of kansas city and you're right they have rotation in place you know i think they could look back at the series and say man like vini probably wasn't really healthy i know we had a double last night but But, you know, he didn't have a great series. Bobby didn't have a good series. And, you know, I think they are just getting to the postseason was obviously a huge win for them. And then when you lose like this, dude, and you heard Bobby Witt talk about it afterwards,

like, this is all we want to do. This is what we need to be doing now. Now it's not about getting to the playoffs anymore. It's like we're in here. How far can we go? It just lights that fire, man. So I hope they're aggressive in free agency this off season. and I hope they go make a run at somebody in the outfield,

some bat that can help them out because they do have a great core in place. And we want to see Bobby in these big stages as much as possible. Yeah. Yeah, it'll be a fun conversation. And they went out and they did some work last offseason. They focused on the pitching. You got something there. Yeah, would be interested to see what they do with the hitting.

And yeah, our guy Vinnie Pee, who even if he was healthy-ish to swim, the bat. He hadn't played in games. So like, dude, it was kind of, it was kind of, he, he was pulling some balls that he was just absolutely cracking that, okay, like, you know, if it was mid-season form, Vinnie,

does he straighten one or two of those out? And he, he ends up getting the RBI double after the little kerfuffle in this game. You know, maybe Volpe with a couple too many pats on the back. Yeah, it was heavy padding, for sure. It was, heavy patting.

You know this show's about heavy petting. That was a little excessive. It was a little bit. But we will, I think we'll probably do an ALCS preview Sunday morning or something like that. We'll figure it out because we don't know who the Yankees will be playing yet, Trev, because we had a fun one in Detroit Rock City last night. It's brought to you by booking.com. This episode of Talkin Baseball is brought to you by booking.com,

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The vibe is high. Cleveland's holding on. Tanner has been there number one as it's a classic guard dogs versus cats, as the Tigers hope to win behind Reese, Matt Olson, and go on a date with the ALCS. Top one, the lane train. Thomas the tank engine tracks an RBI single, 1-0 guard. Bottom two, Trey, Sidney,

gets Detroit fans bouncing around with an RBI sack fly, but they line into a deep heat to end the inning tied at one. It stays that way into the fifth. your AL Central third baseman. Ramirez in McKinstreet. Both solo homers tied at two. Bottom six. Wenssel Perez. Hilton Gossips an RBI single. Detroit is rocking. It's three two kitties. Little Caesar's pizza for everyone. The only problem for America's team and the nation's obesity. Do you want fries with that? Pinch hit for David Frye. He gets frisky on Bo Briskey. run homer for the lead. How about

a shake and a squeeze for the insurance run? And they needed it because the cat scratched late against Emmanuel, but Class A was in session late. Guardians win. Game 4, 54 final. Did you get bouncing around and DP just

real close to each other? That's ridiculous. I didn't even put that together, you know? That's just ridiculous. Jake Rogers. That Walrus mustache. That's. It's It's ridiculous. People are talking about it.

Oh, man. Grave, where do you want to go? This is a great game. I think these two teams kind of mirror each other and what they try to do. And, you know, I think we've seen that in this series, even with, like, vote versus Hinch and the managerial decisions and all these things, you know,

two very, very similar teams, especially the way that Detroit has played the last couple months. So good baseball. I don't know, man. This is, this is kind of exactly what you wanted. I mean, you see Stephen Kwan leading things off, you know, get them on, get them over, get them in. Lane Thomas has always been the guy there in the first inning.

But then, you know, the rookie shortstop comes back and ties it in the second inning with the sack fly for the tigers. And then I thought this was interesting. in the fifth we have Holton coming in and you turn Ramirez around righty

Ramirez has owned him before that at bat where he hit the homers four for eight four doubles so now make it five for nine four doubles in a homer to put him up and you're like okay this Cleveland J. Rams here they're going to do it

but then McKinstree like you mentioned just answers back right in the bottom of the fifth which is great great baseball Tigers pull ahead. Kind of sucks for them because it looks like Carrie Carpenter is like done. If you pull a hammy, you're probably not going to be playing anymore. He's probably not going to play on Saturday.

I'd assume at least, I don't know the extent of it. But then, you know, where all this happened, top seven, pinch hit David Fry and AJ Hinch is like, gotcha, here comes Bo Briskey. And David freaking fry, man, 2-2-heater, 2-outes, down the middle, freaking hits a 2-run homer. And again, Kwan's on base to make it a go-ahead homer. And then same guy that hits that homer,

which is very improbable for being honest that he did that against Bob Risky, comes back, and Stephen Float asks him to freaking bunt first and third. He gets it down for the insurance run. And I was talking to Rosie about that, and he said that he thought that, David Frye had attempted one other bunt this season and he bunted into a double play. So this is like not a guy that, you know, necessarily handles the stick like that.

But in these situations, you just got to get the job done when, you know, these situations arise. And he did, man. And to do that, to hit a homer, Jake, to have your team go ahead. And then two innings later, lay down a bunt for another RBI. I mean, that's just all-time baseball guy guy stuff right there. Right. I mean, how many teams in baseball would even do that? Like, I think these two teams and then like the rays, like that these, yeah, that that's

who you're looking at. And, uh, dude, David Frye, it was 02 in that at bat. He fouls off a fastball away, takes a close one, spits on the slider. And then, yeah, it's, it's not an huffle pitch by brisky. it was kind of like a lefty righty swing like drops the head on it turns on it like down and in to a righty that brisky who's been great this postseason and yeah fry just epitomizes everything cleveland's about with with that i mean his whole season the fact he was an all-star into getting the squeeze bun down in a run that they ended up needing uh because the tigers

get to Class A again, which is a fun storyline for the next game, which we can get to in a little bit. If I'm a Tigers fan, I'm in a dark place today. You could say we're a pitch away from David Fry to being going to the ALCS. It's not exactly how the matchup you wanted. You got the matchup you wanted. It just doesn't work out because that is baseball, man. When you get beat on a fastball over the plate wherever it is, you go back and you think about that. And yeah, I think the other thing, man, they, they had Bybee on the ropes in that second inning. You walk on the second, yeah.

He walks Keith, Torkelson singles, walks McKinster, bass is loaded, nobody out. Sydney hits the sack fly, which again is one of those. Sydney hits, Knox went into center. It's one of those baseball things that's tough to wrap your head around a little bit because you're like, okay, you know, sack fly is good. good. That's what we got to run home, but the double play is set up. Hold on one second. Don't A. Don't A. Don't A. Rod me right now. You're saying what would you rather have had besides a side? No, no, no. I'm not. A sackfly is still better than a strikeout or an infield fly or anything like that. But, you know, it you have Rogers up, Biby's on the rope, first pitch line out to short double play. That, yeah.

Can't get doubled off. You cannot get doubled off in that situation. That is, I know you're on second base. I know you're trying to get a good secondary lead, but you just can't get doubled off. You cannot. And he did. I know, I know it's tough because that's, okay,

so it's Torkelson on second. The line drive is hit ahead of them. You're right. Like there's some base runners there that freeze and get back and we wouldn't even notice it. For me, it's, I know that speed isn't necessarily Turkleson's game. The place is also rocking that, you know. It's rocking.

There's a lot of stuff going on, but you just have to, I mean, it's, I'm not saying that, I mean, that's going to be a double play, you know, a percentage of the time. Right. Not 100%. You know what I'm saying. But you have to know where your infielers are. That's the main thing. As long as you know where you're infielders.

fielders are. That's all you have to know. Line drive right to Rochio, can't get back. That's just things like that kill you. In the fourth, another grounded double play. Like, you know, the double plays, I feel like this postseason, and obviously throughout the season too, but they just kill momentum, man. You get runners on.

They're so hard to get runners on in the postseason. And every time you get two outs with one swing, it's like, gosh, man, just absolutely slashes whatever momentum that you've created. Yeah, they, God, I mean, and this is, you know, pitching chaos, your favorite phrase. And I, you know, the guardians aren't free of it. They just say we have a good bullpen. But Holton, Gunther, Brisky, and Job, you know, the first four relievers out for Detroit, they all gave up a run. So is that seeing them more?

that the lucky day? I don't know. But yeah, and maybe that's the other thing, Tigers fans, again, it's so easy to second guess. Briskey had been fantastic. But Will Vest has kind of been the guy for them that, you know, in this pitching chaos and, you know, everyone's given a hintch all these compliments, you know, in hindsight, maybe that's the Will Vest lane to keep getting out and to get set up Briskey later. So I don't know, you can start second guessing stuff all day. This, this game kind of encompasses this series. I mean, even, you know, did that ninth inning,

the Tigers fighting against Class A again. Justin Henry Malloy down the line. Fun game. Yeah, you know, looking to game five, tigers have scoble going and have to feel comfortable. But you mentioned Cleveland getting to Detroit's bullpen and scoring some runs off, you know, off a vest, off of Briskey, off of Holton.

And, like, you know, that's, their main focus now has to just be keep it close when Scoobool is in the game. So your pitching's got to try to match up. You got to try to scrape any type of run across the board with Scoobble in. But now you feel comfortable against that bullpen. It doesn't feel like it's an insurmountable thing that pitching chaos. So it's, you know, we were talking about this. Chris and I, you know, you kind of have to get the type of game fire just because of who's on the

mound. but Cleveland is just shown to be so resilient that I still feel like eat scoves on the mound. And I'm sure a bullpen game for the guardians, I still feel like it's a toss-up. Yeah, yeah, it's funny, funny Vegas line. Detroit, the favorite on the road in a game five shows how much of the bad man's spools. Yeah, he's been dominant. But like I said, Carpenter out with the hammy. It looks like he pulled it.

If you pull your hammy, I mean, you are. or not, I mean, maybe you pinch hit. Maybe you can't run. But you can't run. Against Class A in the ninth or something? That's what I'm, you can't run. This is like Kurt Gibson like territory possibly for Carrie Carpenter because you, I mean, anyone's ever pulled a hammy.

I mean, you can do certain things, but you can't run. So, one swing in the bat and the ninth, okay. Maybe he's going to need the powers of. another carpenter to help him out, you know? She's a Phillies fan. I was talking about the big man. We're, we don't have, we'll be, we're going to be streaming the Dodgers Padres game 8 p.m. tonight.

Just a reminder, you know, America baseball, go look who's on the bump, Darvish and Yamamoto. Let's go. The international game is here. And like every other player on that field. Anyways, that's my WBC rant for another time. For Detroit and Cleveland, the over under is listed at five and a half gross scoble. The bad man of these playoffs is out there.

Cleveland's bullpen and Trev, I'll tell you what, I don't know if this is a fade to fade, but give me the over because I think we've seen these bullpens. And I listen to Chris Lowe's, ex Kevin Millar was on with my guy, Ryan Rosillo. And he, they, he was talking about, you know, them facing Mariano. And he was like, you know, this was back in the day with the more unbalanced schedule. And he was like, we, we felt more, we felt comfortable against Mo.

We saw him a bunch. He throws one pitch. Don't get me wrong. He's one of the best players to ever play this game. And he's going to get you out a lot. But we saw Mo more than most that if you're a lefty, you might get one or two that drift to the middle. If you're a righty, you might get one or two that drift out to the fat part of the bat.

That, I mean, hey, dude, the Tigers against Class A, I don't want to say it's apples and apples, but even him at this point, like, I don't think he's as bad of a man as he normally is. Yeah, as much as these bullpens have thrown, yeah, they are, seeing the advantage however slight it is I mean you start to gain more of an advantage as a hitter you're still behind the eight ball but yeah you see pitches you understand you know what you have to do what a pitcher is trying to do to you and it's just a visual aspect of it we could see some runs late here that's that's a that's a that's a prediction

for us I think school bowl is going to be nasty bro I don't care but runs late will be a lot of fun and I would like to see If I get one wish, I think I would like to see a Carrie Carpenter at bat for the Tigers. Just hobbling out there. I mean, think about that. Kurt Gibson threw out the first pitch yesterday, didn't he? Hmm. Hmm.

We're going to see it. Yeah, let's carry Carpenter pinch hit at bat would be interesting. Jose Ramirez joining the series in him hitting Wrighty versus Scoobel. They're going to need something out of him. David Frye. You know, being their verse lefty guy. It's teen up to be a fun one, man. And, you know, let's, uh, God.

I don't know. It's one game in these teams. I guess I got two games five, Pop. This is what we wanted, man. Anytime you get something like this, it's great for baseball. God, the, the baseball just like, the, the, the, what do you want to call it? Like the stamina, if it was a video game,

Terrick Scoobel's stamina meter of like, how long can this dude stay in this game? Because whoever comes out of Detroit's Penn and like Vest has been incredible and they got a bunch of guys, it doesn't matter. They're not as good as soon as you've out, as long as you've outlasted scoble,

now you have a chance to run that if they have the lead by the time they get scoble out, or if it's close, things just start tipping Cleveland's way. It's going to be a fun one tomorrow night. Didn't Scoobel tell the Cleveland fans to shut the F up too? Like, he is not bothered by pitching in that ballpark. Well, dude, again, this is where I'll anti-Yanky my stuff. Like, imagine the hubbub that would be around Terrick Scoobl if he was on the Yanks or the Dodgers or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Instead, it's in Detroit, and it's like he throws these great games, he gets a big double play and tells the stand's STFU and we're like, wait, look at this guy now. It's like, no, he's the best pitcher in the American League this year. Like, that's it. Unanimous Cy Young winner this year. He's a stud. I'm very curious to see if A.J. lets him pitch through some trouble, say it in the sixth inning. Does he let him continue to go because he's Terrick Schuble?

Or does he say, hey, look, we have this pen. we're going to deploy it. I like this matchup against this right-handed hitter better. I feel like it doesn't matter lefty-righty. Like, scoobble's your best option. It's your best option. So he's going to have to deal with those decisions, and it's going to be interesting to see when,

if he chooses to go to the pen, when it is. And, you know, it cannot feel good to take the ball out of that guy's hand. I don't care who you're giving it to. He's your guy. And Trev, I just got excited. Well, A, you know, you and I went from maybe managing bench coach for the twins. And now it's looking like we're going to be an ownership group. So let's see how that.

Let me tell you something. If you don't think I've been making calls already, you're crazy. I know it. Just get me in that action, pop. No, I got five on it. Special advisor. I guess do you have anything to say about, and I think this is a baseball conversation

that if we needed to kill an hour, we could. But for scoobal in this game, the balance between attacking early in the count, but knowing if you give this guy two seven pitch innings, you might see him until the eighth. So like, what's that balance like for a hitter? actually going into the game. I mean, in my mind,

you go attack because it doesn't matter. You try to work the count against this guy. He's just going to fill the strike zone up. And he's built up where he can go 100 plus pitches if he wants to. So what's the difference? I would still stick to my game plan. You know, some guys are going to go attack him or the other guys are going to want to see him.

I would not like to be behind the count against that guy. I don't think that matters. Just because I think he's built up and this is the time where he's going to use all of his bullets. It's not going to be, hey, we've got to save him for this. No, this is what, this is the game that you save him for. So it's, the pitch count will be whatever it needs to be for scoobs. I don't love that update for Cleveland, if I'm being honest. Don't you, don't you think?

Like, if this guy threw a complete game and threw 115 pitches, I would not be surprised. Yeah, I mean, dude, it's just, it's a mental mind F, especially. especially for fans, because, you know, especially a team like Cleveland where, you know, the bottom of the lineup hasn't exactly been killing it. Like, you know, at a certain point, does a five-pitch strikeout for someone in the bottom of the lineup go further than a two-pitch chopper to third? And I know that's not how it works, but in a way it kind of does. I wouldn't be surprised on Cleveland's side if we saw some bun tempts for a base hit

if we just tried to just get him uncomfortable get him off the mound running around. I think that's something that you have to do. You can't let him settle in. If you start to see him settle in, you've got to even if you're just going to give up an out with a bun, like make him field something, make him do something to disrupt his rhythm.

I'd assume also that we're going to be bunting guys over in these situations. not you can't you can't think you're going to string together three hits like you you if you get somebody on you got to either steal a base you got to bunt him over because you cannot string together hits against sky i would imagine bow is talking to his offense saying we're going to scratch and claw for one two runs against this guy and that's going to come you know playing small ball i mean that's you have to do that against him man in the other i guess my final thing on this you know you know, while vote is going to be handling essentially a full-blown bullpen game,

uh, and how ironic that, again, the tigers in pitching chaos, hey, get us as far as you can, dude. Uh, Hinch is going to be doing hitting chaos.

Like, they've had a lot of lefty, righty matchups. Andy Abagnas almost, uh, took the lead late with one swing and he's taking some good at bats. Um, you know,

Wensiel Perez, uh, Zach McKinstree and Matt Veerling, Justin Henry Maloy, like he's going to have some interesting buttons to press because are you going to take a guy out in the fourth or fifth inning in this game? Like, this is going to be fun, man. I'm getting jazz. Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, he did it to Stephen Vote.

What was that in game three where he made Vote pinch hit very early on and kind of backfired on vote? I wonder if votes are going to try to return the favor because he has all the options in the world out there. And it is. This is going to be, it is kind of ironic that you're right. Like the tigers who got here because they've just gone crazy with their bullpen are now saying bullpen, you guys can kind of like sit down.

We got our guy in the mound. It's a funny storyline. Hey, I know this is a little bit of Chris Rose BS. If you're the Yankees, is there a team you'd prefer to play? Like not in an obnoxious way, but just like, hey, we might match. I think you prefer to play Cleveland because of the scoble effect. I really do. Really?

Even though he'd probably be out till game four or five? I think he'd probably go like three and seven. And I think that that has to scare you. Like two games. Okay. Interesting. Okay. I mean, I don't know. Yeah.

No, again, that's not shots at any one. I was with that if Cleveland, if, or Detroit won the last game and they had scoobo lined up, one, four, seven, that's different. And all that being said, Jose Ramirez clicking in like Kwan. These guard dogs find a way. Again, we'll be streaming on J.M. Baseball tonight. Dodgers, Potters, oh my God.

One of their season ends, the other one becomes like a World Series favorite. And then we'll be streaming this one tomorrow too. So get ready for that. Enjoy the baseball, everyone. Otani Homer? Sure. It's in the script, right? Did you get that?

I think O'Tani Homer against Tanner Scott is coming. He's owned him for so long. I think Otani makes him the husband. I'm just saying he's playing the long game. Maybe. That place is going to be. A real long game. and a game