Talking Shit with a Yank & a Brit - 10. Wannabebeh

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

This week we're talking emo phases, comparing our musical tastes and sharing which spice girl we wanted to be. We also have another listener dilemma to solve and ask once again 'Am I The Arsehole'Follow, subscribe and rate wherever you get your podcasts, and send us your questions, dilemmas or stories at [e-mail] get 12% off your new BlendJet2 and free two day shipping, visit https://zen.ai/tspod12

Well hello and welcome back to Talking Shit if you're a new listener. This is the podcast where me and Kate talk shit about stuff and share our differing or similar perspectives from our upbringings in the UK and the US. Yep. Yep. That's it. This is our 10th episode, which feels like a pretty big deal. It is a big deal. We've hit the 10, baby. I never thought we'd make it this far. But with your support. I want to thank our mums for listening. And the four friends.

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at gmail.com that's the one baby I don't know why I keep saying that I keep going alright baby baby I think that's a really good catch phrase so thank you that can be yours and I'll come it's gonna be I like eggs and I hate that

for me but I feel like that's the thing I've said most consistently since that episode. Anytime. It's relevant. So that sucks. But here we are. Now you also say

say more. Oh I do. And I'll have you know. I'll have you know I'll have you know I'm the worst say more about how I say say more oh I love it you Americans and your little sayings okay I feel like that is one thing that's true for both of our countries because you guys are like anybody up for a cuppa and all right and fancy this and fancy that and that's true but I like that I'm not I'm not talking shit about that I like it I like it too I like that we both have different sayings that we can both take the mick out of true makes it more

entertaining by the way I'm like losing my voice so if if my voice does stop working halfway through I apologize well does use sign language. Okay, that's good for a podcast. Yep, I'll translate, respond. You can do my voice and your voice. Perfect. And all the accents that you can do and I'll nail them. Okay. Well, tell me why you're losing your voice though. Let's hear it. You're losing your voice, though. Let's hear it. I just had a very busy weekend with a couple of gigs. And I sang a lot.

And then I drank a lot because it was bank holiday. And I got really excited and got too carried away. And I'm now on day two of the hangover. And my vocal cords are fried, basically. For your day two hangovers is that I wonder if it's like mine when I get those and it's less hangover hangover it's more like the psychological components and just generally feeling worn down but it's not the headache or stomach ache or just like the I can't move off the couch sort of thing? Yeah, it was just like extreme tiredness, the anxiety today worrying about what I did.

And I also woke up this morning, went into the bathroom to brush my teeth, yawned in a slightly different position apparently and something in my neck went and I can't turn my head now. That's like as far as i can go so that's what happens when you're hungover in your 30s i yawned weird and now i can't you need a heat pack and some painkiller and probably alternate with ice and you'll be right as rain tomorrow okay thank you nurse i'll try that i did try painkillers earlier did not do anything so silas yeah silas give me some advice please yes silas says please provide us with a fun fact about pain well he's a painkiller so also that you're right i forgot

silas says give us tips about improving our neck pain and sleeping better and probably better tips on how to yawn yeah if you could um how to yawn without causing neck paralysis that'd be fab cheers so okay eventful weekend as we discussed last time about kind of our respective holidays this week and i had dumbly said it's i don't't know, something about Memorial, which it is. Memorial Day is about remembering, I think, the fallen soldiers of, you know, wars. And I know that people do, like, kind of observe that in the appropriate way. We did not. We had some people over, played yard games.

It was a really horrific week, which I know you know all about. It's been a shitty month, actually. So I'll spare the details to our listeners so they don't have to listen to my snot-filled sobs. But it was nice, though. We had nice weather, and having people over was good. And I'm very good at one of my favorite yard games, Sticks and Cups, and I continue to be very good at it. Oh, I miss sticks and cups. It's so fun, isn't it?

Yeah. We'll be playing that when you come over next time. I think you guys have frisbees and sticks and cups. Yeah, I'll find some sticks, I'll find some frisbees, and I'll get some cups in, baby. I've done it again. Baby. And baby. I guess speaking of frisbees though I did get hit in the mouth with a frisbee yesterday which is the first time that's happened since but I feel like I've never gotten like truly injured

but this was just the right like velocity or speed it was kind of a heavy frisbee that I don't normally play with and it hit me I have like a cut is that why you went to the dentist this morning no i just had an appointment but they they noticed they're like oh my god what happened i was like i got hit in the face with a frisbee is my tooth okay it's primarily my lip but um yeah it it sucked and they but everything else is fine it is like wear wear a face mask i don't know yeah one of those big like helmets that they wear in american football yeah or an umpire's mask or something yeah that would help because i was terrified of the frisbee after that you've now got a complex against frisbees yeah um but you know i suppose the highlight of my past couple days was at the

dentist them being like you know looks good do you know floss more or whatever but my dentist had asked about i did a i had to do my x-rays right i know you guys have slightly different kind of like what's the word i'm looking? Your dental care is a little bit different than ours. Yeah. But I had to like do this machine where I had to like bite a thing and a thing rotated around my head. Yeah. So just a different form of x-rays. And the dentist had commented on like the jaw muscles and she's like, do you have pain up here in your temple? Because you have, you know, muscles up there and joints up there that are part of your jaw system. And I was like, no.

And she's like, well, you just have really petite ones then. And I was like, I have cute little petite muscle. What, temples or jaw muscles? Jaw, like jaw muscle joints in that area. And I was like, are you saying they're cute or what? And she's like, yeah, I guess. so there's that winner yes uh-huh yeah got cute temporalis muscles i think that's what they are i don't remember so oh what a compliment uh-huh yeah yay for you well right you want to talk some shit? Let's talk some shit.

Yeah, that's jazz. I think we've never really talked about this, I don't think, but the talking shit implication of our whole shtick and our title is not to necessarily be like, we're going to talk mad shit about this person. No. But it's more like you and I are just chatting shit, which is a pretty British phrase that kind of just means. Yeah. Talking about.

It doesn't mean we're going to be horrible. We might be though. We might. Yeah, we're just talking about lots of stuff. Some of it deep and thought-provoking and some of it literally nonsense like sandwiches and bullpoint pen reviews please do not kill me this podcast i'll try not to i um i thought it would be good though for us to i just like have some we just have some random questions that i think we've been stockpiling that we wanted to

ask each other or talk about and so we're gonna be doing some true talking shit with the ink and a brit today i feel like we can learn a little bit more about each other on the way i just this date is me getting to know you better to decide if i want to then take it to the next step of dating you and reaching 20 episodes podcast dating yeah uh one big one is let's talk about music okay you. You're really musical. You sing. You're a good singer. You're in a band. Tell me about what your musical tastes and influences were over the years, like when you were younger, why, how that shaped who you are today, if you think it had any shape on kind of like your singing performance style and what do you like to listen to now and is it different? Okay, so I grew up and I think most people do listening to the music that their parents listen

to. So my mum and dad were huge David Bowie fans. Oh, okay. I don't hate that. So I listened to a lot of that growing up. And also, which was one of my biggest influences, was Alanis Morissette and Sheryl Crow. Interesting. Just pointing out they're American. Well, Alanis is Canadian I think right she is Canadian yeah

but Sheryl Crow is American I believe so I think so I was obsessed with Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill album I knew all the words well we were going to go see her we were

well you and Charlie were yep and then no one got to go um so yeah that's where i sort of started well actually no i guess my my first influence was disney films i used to love singing along to disney films and me too particularly aladdin and little mermaid yeah they were my fave pocahontas for me oh good one and i this may come as a big surprise but anything with cats in it but like the aristocrats the aristocats oliver and company big fan of those to an alarming degree probably

yeah how long would you say you kind of hung on to disney music and maybe kind of the more of the kid friendly music before you shifted into Alanis, Sheryl Crow, stuff like that? Probably, I like remember my life through, I don't know if you noticed, but I moved quite a lot when I was younger. Like my parents loved to move house. So I remember my life and what stage I was in as to what house I was living at I do that with boyfriends I do it's true go on

so I was in Ashurst Wood so I I would have been, I guess, like eight or nine, ten maybe. Oh God, I don't know. But yeah, I remember singing Alanis. Oh, my voice is going. I remember singing Alanis a lot then. What was your favourite time? Well, it's always been always will be ironic that is my go-to song it's my karaoke song is it i didn't know that

that's an important thing for me to know yes so um but then i also as you get older and you turn into a teenager, I don't know how well you know the album, but it's a lot of it's quite angry and man-hating. I don't know. Exactly. Yeah. So they became more favorites as I turned more hormonal, really, I guess. And you had that one crush who was not who didn't like you back yeah that you dedicated okay so what about you Alanis, Sheryl Crow. This is going to be really embarrassing for me. I can already tell. I don't know why, but I was perhaps a little late in the game of moving on to kind of like

more current music because my parents did have their own music that they listened to. My dad was a big fan of the Beatles and some kind of other, I'm going to say oldies, even though I suppose, well, at the time they were the oldies too. That's what it is. But my mom, she liked Celine Dion and stuff, which I, that's my go-to karaoke. Sick. But I also didn't like, I basically, the soundtracks and music i got were kids music for many years and i didn't really encounter pop music that was perhaps a little more edgy until i was probably like junior high so i remember my friends listening to alanis morissette and

singing in the car when we're going somewhere like during a sleepover and them singing along to the radio and i was like i don't i don't know i don't know what this is i don't know this song um it seems good but oh i really i was into hansen oh my god so was i yeah i feel like that was pretty standard and they're kind of innocent too so I think my parents were okay with it. And then of course, some of the other boy bands like NSYNC and those were hard to avoid.

But I remember I got, I don't know, did you guys have those catalogs with CDs that you could order? Yeah. My parents would say you could get something out of here. And I got TLC and Paula Cole's albums because I think it was like my friends have these, I need to get these.

And both of them had the parental advisories on them and my parents took them away from me. Oh no. Yeah. So my music evolution kind of was a little bit stilted in that way. But I will say that a very important band for me was the Spice Girls. Hell yeah. Girl power. And that was one thing I wanted to talk to you about. Because I feel like most people in the UK maybe have a love or kind of like a like they can talk positively about the spice girls but you might have people who really hate like or don't care about the beatles or don't care about some of the other big uk artists of the past it's gonna live or hate you know but

spice girls feels like yeah everyone loves that fake ass girl band that didn't write their own songs or sing very well but i think you know they were they in a way were our modern day beatles they were like the most influential girl band of the 90s so i think anyone in our generation unless you've been living under a rock you've got to appreciate the spies girls and it was kind of the beginning as well of girl fucking power i was just gonna say i don't know if there's many other bands that could really pull off girl power in a non-cheesy way you know because they did it was cheesy but we loved it was yeah well and maybe that's true because i think a girl power now and it's kind of like yeah yeah but like i maybe it was just because they seemed like they meant it i don't know yeah i don't know what it was they were just they were

cool and their personas yeah they each had their own persona so everyone had the Spice Girl that they were I remember being in primary school and like at lunch times we'd all pretend to be the Spice Girls and perform on the steps out the back of the school yep we did that for a talent show and I was not included but desperately wanted to be so I got to be the manager who introduced them so that was fun but I too had like poster and the one I and I wanted like the platform shoes and all of that but I gotta ask who who was your identified Spice Girl I was Sporty Spice oh okay does that surprise you say more I don't know if it surprises me because there's only five right but I suppose yeah I don't know I guess I don't know who I would have expected

so I just want to know more why um well I don't know if you know this, but when I was a younger lass, I was quite a tomboy. I wasn't really into girly stuff. And I just identified with her the most. And she had brown hair. I mean, that's kind of what it came down to so it's either posh or sporty um and i wasn't posh so that's sporty whoh or baby well so you kind of just said it i kind of had two options here if we're gonna go based on like how i sort of looked yeah and so it was posh and i hated that i had to like, yes, because I really loved

Scary Spice. So much so that that was like my, I was a posh sun and a scary spice moon and that was a secret. But she was like the prettiest and had

the best style and was like the coolest and the funniest. And her hair was cool and I had curly hair that looked terrible, but But she was like the prettiest and had the best style and was like the coolest and the funniest. And her hair was cool. And I had curly hair that looked terrible. But I was like, maybe my hair one day could look like that. And I just thought she was a great singer. Posh, I think we can all say, was the worst singer.

And I think they said, Posh, you don't get to sing. You don't get to sing, all right. But she was pretty. But I just don't think I was a posh personality. And I wasn't sporty, really. So that didn't feel fair. And Baby was blonde and cute. And that felt like I didn't get to pick her, you know?

I mean, her personality didn't really fit mine either I think if scary kind of had that quirkiness too that I think maybe was a little more representative of me if anything gender probably would have been okay but I wasn't a redhead either so no I hadn't reached the hair dye stage yet nope not yet but favorite. But favorite song? Quick, go. Ah, Viva Forever. See, maybe not a popular choice because I guess it's probably one of their newer ones. But I just love it. I think I've mentioned to you earlier that I added it to my Spotify playlist the other week because I heard it and was like, oh, I love that song. I'm actually going to have to add it to mine, too, so I can hear it again.

Or spice up your life. Right. I mean, that one was good. I think I really liked Stop. Yeah, that's true. I mean, to be honest, they're all tunes. Yeah. Two become one.

Say you'll be there. Even Mama. Yeah, I sing that to my mom quite a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Who do you think you are? Slam it, shake it, move it, make it. Who do you think you are?

Yeah. It's an absolute tune. Yeah, they're all fucking good. But if, you know, Wannabe comes on, I'll jam. Oh, yeah. If any song of theirs comes on, really. Yeah. I'm there, baby.

That's all I'm ever going to say. Stop saying baby. Fucking hell. Every time you do it, an angel gets its wings hey guys you can play a drinking game at home every time i say bebe do a shot and every time i say say more okay so after the spice girls obviously you mentioned the boy bands ensign backstreet boys hansen they were my first love, Hanson. I was in love with Taylor so fucking hard that

I was genuinely convinced I was going to marry that guy. Unfortunately, he never came to where I lived. I mean, it's not too late. He's still alive. You're still alive. But he's married with like 10 kids now.

I mean, marriage isn't forever. True. I'll wait for that divorce. I'm in there. But then, okay, then I loved NSYNC, okay? My next love was Justin Timberlake. And to this day, I still have a really big place for him in my heart and if Jessica Bill would just fuck off then actually I went to see Justin Timberlake right

for my 16th birthday my awesome mum got us tickets for it was me and three of my friends, I think, four of my friends. And we were three rows from the front. And I am telling you, it was the justified tour. So it was incredible. And I'm telling you, Kate, he looked me dead in the fucking eye. And from that moment on, I was like, he knows. He knows about me. This is going to happen one day. day it's like you're too young now baby give me I'll give you 10 years he couldn't find me so he married the next brunette he could

find Jessica slutface bill man he I mean talk about just second rate Gemma. Really? I mean, come on. That's so funny. Yeah, I'm sure he was like that. If the internet were a thing then, like it is now, you guys would have found each other. Like Twitter would have found you in a second. All I had to do was just say, 16 say 16 year old three rows away from my concert who are you i love you

oh that was one of the best nights of my life okay so you were an n-sync fan i feel like i probably slightly preferred n-sync over backstreet Boys, but listen to them both. I mean, they both have tunes, right? Yeah. What about like, some people say I look like me dad. Hey! Oh! Better be rich.

I didn't even know bewitched were like known in America. That is, I don't know how big they are, but I think they, you know, do you remember TRL? Like the music video top 10 countdown every day after school. Did you guys get that? No. It was on MTV and it was literally just music videos, right? Oh, okay. Yeah. I used to watch MTV. I think it probably made it onto that or maybe it was in a really popular movie and they got like maybe it was a Disney movie. And I think back then they kind of did the we've got Bewitched performing the theme song to whatever. And so it kind of went that way. But I think that's like one of their only songs, really.

But I did enjoy that song. You know, that was the first song I ever sang on stage oh really yep and it was an ensemble song yeah i was in a band by yourself okay oh that's funny i think the first one i performed was leigh-Anne Rimes. Oh, fantastic. That was also an early one. Did you know the one, I'm blaming on the weatherman? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We did that one too, and we all had umbrellas on stage that we were like twirling and had a little routine with. What was this for? Like just a talent show or a showcase or something? No, I used to do like singing lessons. Oh, and then you'd have like a recital or something?

Yeah, you'd have like a show at the end for all the parents to come to. Did you guys ever have like, what's that band called? M2M. Do you remember M2M? It rings a bell. Mirror, mirror hanging on the wall sound familiar no no they're like scandinavian but i think another kind of bewitched time frame cleopatra time frame coming at you coming at you where did Destiny's Child rank for you?

Oh, they were quite high as well, actually. Yeah, that was like the first concert I saw. Was it? Yeah. In junior high, I think I had a friend who either her parents got tickets and she picked me or vice versa. I can't remember, but it was like my first concert that wasn't amazing something stupid yeah mine was all saints and it was shit they mimed the whole way through sound was terrible their dancing was awful uh and that was not a good introduction to live music quite frankly why did they come to be because i feel like that was

another probably studio effort of putting just a bunch of girls together to see if they could make a hit you know yeah i think once the Spice Girls got big they just all these fucking girl bands came out of nowhere didn't they yeah i was jealous same actually me too okay but then i feel like you and i have some similar tastes in music kind of in adolescence and into adulthood but i had the emo stage avril fallout boy like my brother's band band taste influenced me we were in a band well he was he was in a band I eventually joined that band but his taste in music also and I think my friends kind of had the similar ones so I very much fell into that I think because it was around me but yeah very very emo kid at some point like 15 16 17 today 16, 17, today. Yeah, I had a stage. Well, yeah, it moved into Avril, some 41. I guess a bit of Blink.

I'm not a huge Blink fan. I was just going to ask if you love as much as Nigel. No. No, he was a diehard Blink fan. Yeah. But yeah, that was a fun stage. I think everyone goes through that I mean I still love Paramore

yeah Paramore are good I wasn't a huge fan though to be fair of Paramore I mean I like their stuff but I just think I appreciated that there was like a girl you know instead of all the

tonight's night will fall for you. Oh, again. It's very nasally. Don't you think? Oh, yeah. Where are you?

And I'm so sorry. Yeah. No, I really loved like taking back Sunday and brand new a lot though. And Coheed and Cambria, which is kind of one of those out there ones. Really? You have. You have. I guarantee it. Oh God. Good eye sniper. I'll shoot you run. Never heard that song? You never heard that song? I don't know. They all sound the same, mate. Yeah, they kind of do.

Well, but Claudio Sanchez is, it's kind of like emo mixed with prog rock metal-ish, like metal adjacent. There's a little bit of screaming in it, but he's got this huge, huge head of hair that is so beautiful and just really good. Yep. Brilliant. That brings us to today though what would you characterize as your taste today and how much of that is influenced by the years yesteryears do you know i get this question quite a lot and i find the dating scene yeah yeah what music you into I'm like oh everything because genuinely I like a little bit of everything as long as it's good I like it and I think as well going to music college that opened my eyes up to so many different genres and all the different styles of music that you can have. So, yeah, I like a lot.

I think at the moment I'm most into probably soul, jazz, a new little thing called neo-soul, which is sort of like modern soul, I guess. And I really love artists like FKJ, Tom Misch. I don't really know what genre that is. It's kind of like chill out electronic stuff. Well, let's see what the internet says. Because I remember you mentioned FKJ kind of in one of our earlier episodes. So he

is... FKJ stands for French Kiwi Juice. Sure does. Stage persona of the French singer, producer, and multi-instrumentalist Vincent Fenton. He incorporates elements of hip- singer, producer, and multi-instrumentalist Vincent Fenton. He incorporates elements of hip-hop, funk, jazz, soul, and electronic subgenre known as New French House.

Well, there you have it. Oh, I see similar artists are Masego, who I'm kind of familiar with. And by kind of, I mean I feel like I've heard of that person. Yeah, he's great. I also just, like, love old school, like, R&B and hip hop as well. And I still listen to a lot of that. And a bit of modern hip hop as well, I guess, looking at this. Drop some artists for our listeners.

Well, I mean, I instantly saw WAP by Cardi B. I'm not familiar with that one. Could you sing it? No. I was going to, and then I know I also have a little tiny crush on

Harry Styles I do really like his album I want to show you what was just most recently playing on my Apple oh yeah see everyone loves a bit of Harry yeah he did himself a big favor

not being in one direction anymore i think he did yeah um what about you what's your current musical tastes well i do think that i probably still have a lot of the kind of emo kid in me and whatever the new aged emo kid is. I think I listened to a lot of that, but I also just looking at, I think Spotify does this too. The, you know, the replay your year in review, like your most played songs, you know? I feel like I have a pretty big mix of things and i know i'll forget things too but i'm just looking at kind of my last years and i really liked um king princess who is i don't i mean she's i think she's probably pop but um and then also jimmy world matt mason um kendrick lamar lewis capaldi tennis um secret i really like secret yeah she's good and then some old stuff like

as random as mine yeah i don't think i have a good ear for music but I do think that it's like if it sounds good to me that's good enough I don't think I really am drawn towards country that much but there are certain country songs that I like that's it I think the thing is with music it's all just how it makes you feel and how you resonate with it so So regardless of the genre, if something like hits you in the heart or gives you the feels. I completely forgot about one of my biggest influences. Christina Aguilera, motherfucker. Baby. Christina Aguilera, baby.

Okay. Okay, so out of all of the female pop stars of the 90s and early 2000s, she's the one you like the most. Yeah. She's the one I'd say helped like teach me to sing as well. Oh, okay. I just, I wanted to be her. I wanted to emulate her voice and um yeah i think she was probably the coolest one and kind of like the skanky one exactly which is yeah like britney i i feel like i listened to her mandy moore Jessica Simpson, Christina, Maya, Pink.

Pink not so much, but I really liked the ensemble from Lady Marmalade. Yeah, that was great. But yeah, I feel like Christina had the biggest range too. Yeah, she was the best singer out of all those poppy stars, I think, wasn't she? There's so many to mention. I could just reel off like i know so many this could be a very long episode if we focused on music um okay well i'll move it on then so you're kidnapped kate and you have to sing a song

without messing up to secure your freedom what is it well i'm glad you asked because in addition to celine dion another of my go-to karaoke songs is gin and juice by snoop dog and i think hands down i could perform that blindfolded tied up gun to my head no music flawlessly pretty sure i'm pretty sure i've seen you do this as well on one of our yeah i think you have i mean if i'm super wasted i might mess up a little bit laid back that's so good how about you same question mine is ironic

Alanis Morissette you sing that being hung upside down with a gun to my head no problem but you sing so many songs that I'm assuming you have to do by memory so if someone was like you can't do ironic,

I bet you would have an arsenal. Like you wouldn't, you would be escaping, whereas I might not be. I couldn't do gin and juice. They're like, no rap songs, Kate. Nope. It's gotta be something from circa 1987 to 1997. And I'd be like fuck do Disney songs count

I'm sure that was funny I won't say I'm in love from Hercules Hercules has got some absolute tunes in it to be fair you know it's those the muses are great. Yeah. Another question. Speaking of, we have to do karaoke. We have to do karaoke sometime when we're together because I think that'd be fun. What's a thing you have or a thing you can do that isn't all that common or that a lot

of other people can't do other than have a successful podcast with me well exactly yeah um so i have super flexible joints hyper extendable joints i think hyper flexion i don't know what it's called silas hit us up yep let us know silas so i can like pop my thumb in and out it's not very good for a podcast i'm showing i'm showing kate right now but i can like this will be good video content for one day when we get there got it so it's pretty gross it looks it looks like you like he's doing a little dance, your thumb. That's exactly what I said, yeah.

Yeah, just like a little hula. I only do it on one hand, though. I can't do it on the other hand. But I did discover that my cousin can do this as well. So I think it's like a Westbrook thing. I just said my surname. I think it's a family thing. my surname i think it's a family thing

uh fun fact though it is on the podcast page so yeah i know it's uploaded in my name so must be a heritable trait which i guess silas you can let us know that is true too um i also have more likely to have it like you have this as well where you have like really bendy elbows saying you can just like turn it basically all the way around yeah i can like flip my arms pretty much all the way over yeah it's real sexy too oh yeah baby oh shut up i don't know where this has come from um and i have dislocated my shoulder twice um do you know the second time i did it actually first time was in dance class and i was going from a standing position to a press-up position and it popped out fair enough wait so you were basically doing a burpee pretty much yeah but literally like okay second time i was driving just just driving just driving

so there's a car parked in front of me and i wanted to go around it and instead of using like both hands again i'm just trying to describe it i did that and pulled it all the way around my fucking shoulder popped out hurt your neck while yawning dislocated your shoulder turning your steering wheel and i wonder why i'm still single more like what a catch you got no bones i'm made of jelly. My podcast host and friend, Gemma, is a jellyfish. You all know now. Tried to keep this a secret and secrets out.

Okay. So you're kind of a bendy Wendy. In a way. Okay. I'm a bendy Wendy. Yep. I too, like you've noticed or said,

I have like the elbow thing. I also learned when I was running the marathon or training for it that I have hip dysplasia and it seems like this is something I've had my entire life. And when I had an injury and I had to do some x-rays, they're like, oh yeah, you know, you might've fractured your hip. You also have hip dysplasia. And I was like, like, like dogs. So, uh, I might be part dog while you're jellyfish i don't know

oh is that why they call you kate dog hips yeah yeah i guess i didn't know everyone else knew i didn't i think it made fun of how i walked though people said I like intentionally shook my ass when I walked and I was like I I don't I just this is how I walk and maybe that's why because I have hip dysplasia so thanks all you ableist bitches from high school and so what does that actually mean Silas I don't know they basically just said I might have to, I might accommodate probably some of my movements with it. No, I don't think a hip replacement, but, um, and it's on the left side, which is where they thought I had a fracture, but it turns out I just had bursitis, which is inflammation because my body wasn't strong enough to hold my body up when I was running.

body up when I was running. I do strength training now. So I guess that, but I also can, well, Silas, you don't need to respond to this, but I am very good at chugging beer and I've won contests. I can confirm. I have been witness to numerous chugging contests. You are quite talented. I think I've gotten, I can accept that I maybe am no longer a championship beer chugger in my old age, but I have won contests. It was a skill I didn't know I had until I had to do it. it was a skill I didn't know I had until I had to do it and it has got me nothing but hangover yeah that's the downside of it I guess yeah but I don't I think that that's something that not a lot of people want to do rightfully so um because it kind of hurts and is maybe not that classy.

Yeah, I mean, the beer can burn. A little bit. The beer can burn. A little bit, depending on the kind of beer. Yeah, I guess so. It's fizzy as well, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, there you go, guys. You learn something new every day. Our very unique traits. Skills and there you go, guys. You learn something new every day. Our very unique traits. Skills and talents. Mm-hmm. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Do-do-do-do-do-ba. Well, Kate, we've actually had an email in again we've got two fans another another a whole new

email i this is what it feels like to make it i think this feeling of getting an email from someone other than my mom and Google saying congratulations for making an email. Love your emails, mom. Send us more. Yeah, the dopamine here is good. So what does this email say? Okay, so we've got a problem to help with.

So I'll read it to you and then we'll discuss. So it reads, Hello, beautiful creatures. So I need some advice. Or perhaps just some poking fun at my future mother. Oh, sorry, future monster-in in law to help me get through my having to deal with this awful woman juicy a little backstory i am engaged and planning our wedding for next fall while working on my guest list i'm really struggling to put my partner's

stepmother on the guest list to put it nicely this woman is a horrid cunt. I'm using this in the US way. Okay. Yep. Painting a nice picture here. She has caused me to go into multiple panic attacks at family functions, specifically my partner's nieces and nephews' B-day parties, where I have to go and hide until I calm down and can be around people again. What a bitch. And she made me cry this past Christmas to the point that I hid in a basement until she left hours later. That's intense. Yeah.

Even after this, I have tried to be nice to her. You know, the whole kill her with kindness bullshit. When I showed her my engagement ring, she said in the most monotone and unimpressed voice, oh yeah, pretty. And that was literally all she said to me for the rest of the day. The only other interaction we had had that day was her making a point to move to a completely different table when i came to sit with everyone i do not want to invite this raggedy bitch with terrible hair to my wedding she's gonna ruin the pictures but it's a legitimate concern of mine my partner and my partner's siblings that if we don't invite her, their father will not attend.

They aren't helping pay for the wedding in any way, but I do want my partner's father to be there. The whole thing is stressing me out and I don't know what to do. Any thoughts? Ugh. Well, okay, so that is a dilemma. You want to go first or you want me to? I mean, if she's that much of a cunt, don't invite her. It's your day.

If it's going to ruin your day and stress you out and cause you this much stress before the wedding, don't invite her. the wedding don't invite her but i guess it also depends on how that's going to affect other people coming i know people say that weddings are sort of for everyone else but it's not it's i know i agree i say that and i also like it's for you but it is also for other people. And so first, congratulations on the engagement. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Congratulations. And wedding planning can be stressful and having kind of another person such as this

woman kind of making that more stressful really sucks. So I agree with you, Gemma, that my inclination is to say, like, don't invite her. But there was mention of your partner, partner siblings. And that tells me that there's maybe been some conversation about this person and that maybe people have seen this and, like, understand your perspective about why you wouldn't want to invite your step monster in law. And so I would wonder what they would have to say about like, if it's really important for dad to be there, and we're sure he's not going to come if we don't invite her, then is that worth the, you know, having this person there? And what kind of maybe boundaries and and guardrails can you put up so that you don't have to engage with her like can the siblings run interference

can your partner talk to his dad and say this is what we're dealing with and like can dad help with that i guess those would be questions i'd be asking. But bottom line, I think first and foremost is fuck this bitch. If she sounds like a child, first of all, and good for you for trying to kill her with kindness. But I'd say you don't have to. You don't have to engage with her at all. No, I mean, there's also the other option of just fucking confronting her. I was thinking that too. And just being like look i

know you clearly don't like me or you have some sort of problem with me um i don't even know why you want to come to my fucking wedding because you're a twat fuck off yeah i wonder if father-in-law if he were given a role even if it's a small one would he feel compelled to come even if she wasn't able or uninvited but i guess but that's going to be an awkward conversation isn't it like we want you to be there but not your wife like how how would they even approach that like well partner i i get the sense that partner is pretty supportive and partner, like, can you talk to your dad about this? Yeah. And what does he say?

Because I'm thinking about all the things that could happen and it just seems like the energy that you put into planning a wedding, the expense, all of that, to have this one person be a giant, raggedy cunt seems really unfair and like to both of you. Yeah, but equally, as you said, you don't, there's like going to be loads of people at the wedding. shove her in a shit corner yep with loads of people that yeah you know you might not necessarily like or particularly want there put them all in the corner and just don't speak to her enjoy your time with your friends and your family that you do want to have a good time with and celebrate your love for you and your fiance and she doesn't have to be in pictures and if you have bridesmaids they can run interference and also like okay maybe the conversation is dad you need to keep stepmom in check yeah she needs to you need to have a talk with her because of x y and z experiences and like if you can't do that or if you don't think she can be like that

then maybe maybe you both don't come to the wedding you know yeah I had to do that I had to tell some relatives they couldn't come for various reasons it sucked but it was it was necessary so yeah it's tricky I mean to be to be completely honest I think if I was in her shoes I'd just probably not say anything and just put up with it yeah I think I would probably that's what we do yeah I think unless there was like in a very egregious thing that could still happen so you know listener keep us updated um and we'll give feedback based on that. But as of what I've heard today, knowing that my sister and brother-in-law and my partner and probably other people all see it too and are willing to be supportive if it means getting dad at the ceremony or the wedding, which is important. Inviting her, making it clear to dad, but also, like, people need to, like, be my guardrails

so that we can have a nice wedding. That's it. Get people to rally round. Yeah. Keep that bitch away from you, girl. Yeah, that sounds like a really good job

for a maid of honor. So. Yeah. That's what they're for. We're best men. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool. Keep us posted. I'm glad we've solved your problem there obviously you know you can uh send you know monetary appreciation gifts candies chocolates to

i'll put my address in the email response to you just kidding but keep us posted and i'm sorry that's happening but congratulations exactly you'll have a fab day whatever just ignore her or don't invite her have someone play a prank where like her if she gets her hair done have it so that her hair falls out and then she won't want to come yeah or just get someone to spill red wine on her really early invite me or jemma depending on where you're at and that will be our role i will happily do that okay um i've just got one thing i want to share with you actually okay i've got an am i the asshole but this just popped up um and i saved it and i love it yes do it what's our jingle again

am i the asshole you know you are baby that was okay so quickly just before the am i the asshole so this was a thread that i found um and it was someone asking what's the most disgusting secret you're hiding right now i saw that one too i almost asked you but then i was like i don't know if i can answer it but go on okay so this is one of the top answers my wife went out drinking with co-workers and she got shit-faced I had to struggle to get inside she was blackout drunk crying puking it was a nightmare and not the first time her doing this after putting her to bed I shit on the driveway next to her car door and told her that she did it while drunk and told her that the neighbor saw her do it

she found it going to work the next day she has not gone out drinking since and this was four years ago if she does drink she's one and done like that's kind of brilliant but also so because i can only imagine if like if i were in her shoes i don't think i would want to leave the house ever again no that would be the thing that keeps me up every night for the rest i would probably have to just like go live in the woods and be a wood hermit yeah but it sounds like maybe this was a problem but i know but like evil genius yeah Oh, God. Well, now I'm going to question everything. Anytime someone says I tried to do something, I did something while I'm drunk. I'm going to be like, no, that's not true.

No, I didn't do that. You're just saying that. You need to stop being drunk. And I won't. I will never stop. Okay. Right. Am I the asshole?

You know you are, baby. See, I do it too, baby. Maybe that's where I've got it from, baby. Probably. I made it. I rubbed it onto you. All right. I've done a lot of reading in this for someone who's losing their voice.

So I do apologize to our listeners. I really appreciate how you've hung in there for us. Thank you. Thank you so much. Right. Am I the asshole for mansplaining to my girlfriend? Yep. Cool.

Yeah. Done. Okay. I personally don't think this is an issue of mansplaining, but I want to present her perspective of the issue fairly and objectively i don't want to make this story seem completely one-sided like some of the other stories i read on here i think this person's like mansplaining what this is yeah okay okay i 23 male and someone who loves fun facts i love telling my friends and family fun facts

and seeing their faces light up with the same interest as mine when I first learned the fact. I've been getting the feeling lately that my girlfriend, also 23, isn't really treating me with respect. She talks to me, sorry, when she talks to me, she acts kind of withdrawn and dismissive. And I sometimes feel like she's responding to me as though she's like a boss speaking to a subordinate. Whenever I tell her things, she may be listening or she may not be. Yesterday, I told her a fun fact about how styrofoam containers aren't actually made from styrofoam. Instead, they are made from a material known as polystyrene. She didn't even blink. She just said, okay. Today we were over at a friend's house for dinner and she let us take

some pasta home from the leftovers. And I heard my girlfriend say, hand me that styrofoam container. I got a little annoyed since this was proof that she doesn't give a shit about the things I said. So I said it in an annoyed voice. It's made of polystyrene, not styrofoam, but I guess it doesn't matter what I say since you wouldn't listen anyway. After that, all hell basically broke loose and my girlfriend is refusing to talk to me because I was rude, even though I was literally just pointing out, sorry, pointing out that she's being disengaged and respectful to me by not caring about the things that I say and making me feel kind of unimportant. Is this guy an asshole? I am going to try my hardest to be respectful here. Yep.

Because this person sounds like they might have some personality characteristics, traits that also limit their ability to pick up on social cues. Yeah. And the fun facts that this person delivers might at times be interesting and people enjoy them. And perhaps sometimes they're less so. Yeah. And, excuse me, I'm losing my voice now too. I do just want to point out, Gemma, do you think like her saying, hand me that styrofoam container in any way was disrespectful

like meant she wasn't listening she was disengaged or doesn't find him important no it could be seen that she's taking the piss out of his shit fun fact possibly but also is that what you is that what you interpreted from that well no so i i don't know because i wasn't there so i don't know how it was delivered isn't styrofoam the brand name yeah i was gonna say it's like kleenex band-aid um lucas aid paracetamol when you're like not talking about the yeah like i might just say styrofoam container still because that's what people like know it as. Exactly.

So that's how I was interpreting what was like going on here. But you're right. We weren't there. Maybe how she said it, maybe she gave him a pointed look. But based on what was written, it sounds like he overheard it. Yeah.

I get that impression. So my answer is you're not an asshole for fun facts. But I think he perhaps incorrectly assumes that people enjoy them as much as he enjoys giving them. And I do think he's the asshole for his reaction to... Agreed. Well, I mean, the majority of the comments are that he's the asshole. Oh, okay. Well, I love being right.

And in the majority. Strength in numbers. Exactly. The top one is, you're the arsehole. I wouldn't listen to you either. Yeah, fair. That's one way to put it.

I think what a lot of people are saying is that the facts aren't fun. Oh, that fact wasn't fun. Yeah, that one was not as exciting to me as what I think someone could be sharing with their friends and family and girlfriend. And I imagine like, looking at it from her perspective, she's probably just fucking sick of it. Do you know what I mean? Just stop telling me your shit facts. I don't care. Can we just have a normal conversation?

Yeah. Like, if I ask you what these containers are made out of, then that would be a thing that I would be interested in hearing perspective from you. But when I'm talking about how I got really pissed off at my sister for this thing she said, and you're like, did you know the styrofoam containers aren't really made out of styrofoam?

Then you're not listening, nor do you care about me. And I know I made up a little bit of a scenario and context there that we don't know about, but I would not be surprised if that was something that was happening. Yeah, I agree. I mean, some people have said that maybe he's got ADHD. I don't know why. See, I was thinking more like ASD. Again, don't want to just diagnose people I don't know why. See, I was thinking more like ASD.

Again, don't want to just diagnose people I don't know anything about. But the vibe I was picking up is this person struggles with some interpersonal and social cues. Yeah. Okay, here's a good one. It's just bullet pointed. It's not mansplaining. It's info dumping. Other people may appreciate it, but it sounds like your girlfriend would like it to be less,

since it appears she gets higher doses of info dumping than anyone else. Yeah. While fun facts are cool, to constantly talk about them can be exhausting. Where's your respect for your girlfriend? Do you ask her if she'd like to know a fun fact or do you assume and just tell her? Styrofoam fun fact would only be fun, would only be a fun fact to someone interested in styrofoam and how things are made. Why would you call her out in front of people? you seem to be the one that is extremely ignorant and disrespectful you're the arsehole yeah i was wondering if that was really mansplaining too

um maybe that's what she said so yeah maybe yeah but i agree with that comment pretty actually pretty like that would be if someone said pick the comment that best represents your view it would be that one well there you are you're the arsehole stop giving me fun facts

sorry mate learn to read the room fun fact we're at the end of our episode oh my god aren't we sad

well we don't have to be look Kate stop Kate-splaining. Sorry. Thank you for telling me so I can stop. No, explain away. For our 10th episode, it's going to be a marathon 24-hour podcast. Here we go, guys. Strap in.

And if you think that we are struggling to come up with content, just you wait. Just kidding. I got loads. Gemma, tell me what time you were born on what day. I'm going to read your sun, moon, rising chart. Oh my god, do my horoscope. Yep. I got tarot cards.

I've got tea leaves. I've got smoke signals. Hey, I got some crystals in the other room. Oh, me too. I have one that's shaped like a penis. Oh, cool. You want to see? Yeah.

That's from my friend Brittany. Oh, lovely. Little rose quartz penis. Perfect. Yeah. So there's that. It's giving you all the love you need, baby. Oh, I did it again.

so there's that giving you all the love you need baby oh did it again well i think we know what your catchphrase is and that's gonna it's gonna have to be that forever now okay baby okay baby that was a fun one that was that's good thank you for talking shit with me yeah thank you for talking shit with me and you know when we're not recording letting me talk all the shit at you um any time do you think that our fans will like today i hope so yeah i enjoyed it me too let us know if you didn't though and if you did i don't like bad feedback i can't take it i can but i've i think i've ended the last few episodes now of please just like us please please just like us please so rather than say what you don't like tell us what you think we should do next yeah give

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