Talking Shit with a Yank & a Brit - 25. Brexit Sounds Like a Biscuit

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

This week Kate shares her skincare rituals and advertises various products for no monetary gain... and we find out what's happened since Brexit?!Send in your stories, questions, dilemmas to TalkShitToUs@gmailcom (we'll keep you anonymous!) or DM us on Insta, Twitter or TikTok @TSYBPODPlease give us a rating and review, subscribe to the show and tell your friends to spread the word of our good work! Thanks for listening dear listeners!

well hello there everybody welcome back to talking shit with a yank and a brit we're here in your ear holes again. And warming up your heart holes and other holes. All the holes, baby. We like to fill in all your holes. Why do we talk? I'm sorry I talk about holes so much. Yeah, I don't know why you talk about holes so much. Because it's funny sounding to say heart hole and ear hole. It is. Yeah. It will say. How's it going? Yeah, good. I'm quite warm. Yeah, it's warmer here, but yeah, I feel you. All right, there's no need to brag. It's a competition, always. I wouldn't say it's bragging because it's not pleasant warm. You probably are pleasantly warm. Yeah.

I mean, it's always muggy here. So it's never that nice. But to be fair, I mean, give it a month and you're going to be like six foot under snow. My concern is coming back from England and snow will be on the ground, even though that's kind of early for that, but not unheard of. So that'll make me happy. I know. I might need to be, like, hospitalized if that happens. Maybe bring a woolly hat with you.

To England? Yeah, so when you get off the plane, when you get back home, at least you've got some sort of brain protection. You're right. That's important. And even like that short of time exposed to the elements could really damage my very special brain. Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. Well, you had to work today, but I had today off. So how does that make you feel? Rubbish. Why? I don't like that. I want you to feel happy for me only thinking about me Kate okay fair I'm sorry I had the day off because it's labor day which I

suppose is kind of the equivalent to whatever your end of summer bank holiday is yeah but isn't it last week right yeah it was yeah to be fair isn't it to celebrate like or give thanks to people that did labor for america creating the land of the free uh it's more just like kind of an acknowledgement for workers a day off okay than anything but this day and memorial day are kind of the respective bookends of summer too so even if they do have another meaning we're not going to give you any holiday you can't have sick pay but you can have one day at the end of summer to have a little rest yep and then everyone goes back to school though i think some kids have gone back to school already that's usually the last day of the state fair uh yeah so that's today and i labored today

boy did i boy did you labor have we already talked about this or did we just talk about it in passing that i think that we should have a six week holiday I think that was literally our last episode we recorded and I said Gemma for president which wouldn't make any sense it would have to be I guess Gemma for prime minister but I would vote for you for president too thank you so but we both agreed yes I now recall this conversation it's all coming back to me it's all coming back to me i just started watching a movie where she's celine diana's featured pretty heavily in it and i was pretty pleased about it because well she's like acting in it yeah she's got a very minor role but she's playing herself and the soundtrack includes some of her music. So I'm digging it.

It's a cheesy rom-com on Netflix. But I'm just like, oh, Celine, my queen. What's it called? Love Again. I think it's really not good. So please don't confuse me talking about it. Love Again. It's not about her.

But she gives advice to the male protagonist okay because one of those yeah like when prince was a new girl precisely that actually yes good comparison um but that was actually like a good show so not a fair comparison in terms of you know quality but yes cool well you're not well i was just gonna ask are you a rom-com gal i go through phases of liking a good rom-com it depends right like love actually is a good yeah cheesy christmas rom-com standby. Cracking. I, not recently, but I had never watched The Notebook until like a few months ago. And man, that made me cry like a baby. Did it?

Yeah. I was sobbing. I've seen it once a long time ago and I don't recall how I feel. Maybe I should give it a go again. But. The thing is, movies never used to make me cry I was you know I've always been a very cold-hearted person but for some reason age is um it's making me cry at films I think it is interesting because those types of movies

didn't make me cry like rom-coms didn't. Other things like about, like, you know, when Simba's dad dies in The Lion King. That is sad. When animals are involved, it's so much worse. Pet movies where they have to, like, lose a pet always upset me. Rom-coms and stuff. Though I can see in The Notebook because that because that's like the part you're referring to is i think when they're older right because did you ever see up pixar up yeah i have seen it

i don't think i've seen all the way through well the part i'm talking about is in the beginning like when they're growing old together. Yeah. That ripped my heart out. I had a similar thing with Finding Nemo as well. Oh, yeah. Right at the beginning when his brothers and sisters get decimated. Oh, yeah. Everyone dies. Yeah. Spoiler alert.

Everyone dies in Finding Nemo. I was like, this is a kid's movie. What the fuck? I know. But, yeah. I was like, this is a kids movie. What the fuck? I know. But yeah, so The Notebook, I think, is really popular, meant to be a tearjerker. I don't think I cried when I saw it. But, you know, judgment. No, I did feel a bit silly, but could you say it got me in the old heart hole?

And it's just getting bigger and bigger and easier to just shoot right through it's thawing like the grinch oh yeah her heart grew three times that day it did and now um it hurts all the time just hurting all the time i think you need like a zantac or like a tums for that that should help that's another part of getting older I hate to share with you. Great. Fucking brilliant. Talking about getting older.

Oh, Jinx! We are the Segway twins. Yeah, we are. Nice. Okay, go on. We've had a few requests from our dear dear listeners uh i don't know if you recall but uh we did an episode where we talked about skincare and i rudely did not ask you what your skincare routine was and people have been hitting me up and they're like what's great skincare routine because she looks like a porcelain doll

it's a secret i'm not telling oh damn it no just kidding i will um you know it's nothing crazy i can't even remember what my cleanser is but i you get wash your face ladies that's what i'll start with wash your face wear sunscreen those are probably my top two things but I just for my skin needs um I'm dry I think I said like dry as the Sahara and so I mine is kind of focused on moisturizing but I you know I'm someone who uses an eye cream and right now I'm using like CeraVe's eye cream nothing crazy I've spent yeah I've spent far more money on eye cream than I care to admit. This one seems to be fine. And it's not that expensive. I've heard good things about it.

Yeah. And I think they have a couple different kinds. Mine is the one with the purple cap. I don't remember if it's any special kind. I also have one that supposedly is a retinol one that's by CeraVe. I'm not entirely convinced it does anything though other than, you know, it's B&I cream. And then like it kind of depends after that. And this is usually my night routine. After that, I'll do either like a, I've just gotten into Tipology,

which is a French brand. Yeah. And it's just, I have like a hydrating serum from them and it's like a, I'm looking at my notes, like a firming and illuminating complex that I do at night and in the morning, actually that's both. And then I will use, this is what people want, right? They like want to know what I like the products and stuff. Yeah. Okay. And then I will often either use like a face oil to kind of top it off as like, and that's, I have a couple, I have one like by, um, I'll have to look them up in a minute, but the other one is topology or I'll use a Stratia. It's S might not, it might be Stratia. Lauren? Tratia. No, I don't know how to pronounce it. S-T-R-A-T-I-A. And it's called

liquid gold. And it's actually very satisfying to use. It comes in this, it's like this bright gold. I think they just changed it to lipid gold though. And that is like kind of my moisturizer. And then occasionally I will use my retinoid or my retinol, which is tretinoin, which is, as we've discussed, something that I'm sneaking into the country. So you don't do that every day? No, I don't. It depends. Just to give my skin a break because I don't know if you know this, but if you like wax your eyebrows when you use retinoid regularly, you will get fucked up. Really?

Yeah. So you got to take a break if you are going to do anything like that um and even though i put it on last my skin still can get a little dry with it which is like i think means it's working but it doesn't always look great when i try to put on makeup they're flaky and it's yeah i don't know about you but like if i get any bumps it's usually kind of right up here on my forehead and that's what i'll use it on and if i want to take a break from that then i will use either the blood of my enemies mask i was gonna joke that you use blood yep i call it the blood of my enemies mask which is really the ordinary's aha bha peel okay but it

looks like blood because it's red and that is very intense so anybody running out to buy it please do a patch test and don't use it like more than once a week to start because it can do a lot or i will use these like cloths. They're by Dr. Dennis Gross. And it's called like mini universal alpha beta. I'll bring some for you to try. I have a bunch if you want to. And that is gentle enough to use daily. And you can do it in the morning.

And it's just like a two-step. Like it comes in a little wet wipe thing. And you wipe it all over for two minutes. Wait two minutes. And then use the second step. And I actually think that that makes my skin look glorious if I do it consistently. It'll get rid of my bumps. And it'll just kind of like even the tone. It's really nice. And then if I feel like wearing makeup or I don't, I will at least put in on Dr. Jart's Tiger Grass Camo Drops, which has,

it's like a green tinted moisturizer that helps do redness because i have some redness too do you i do um sometimes it depends i think on the time of year because i think it's maybe triggered a little bit by allergies yeah um and it's just like i think my coloring because i'm pale and whatever you know how people are like a spring or an autumn or a fucking juju bee or something i don't know whatever i have red undertones or pink undertones um and so i use that to help and it has an spf in it which is nice so nice and that's kind of it it sounds like a fucking lot so maybe maybe it's worth it maybe it's maybelline i think just figure out what your skin needs if you're oily if you're dry and take care of that isn't it yeah and wash your face and wear sunscreen

and do you wash your face in the morning and the evening usually just the evening um because i you know i take a shower in the morning and wash it the night before. I don't really have anything to wash off again. I might do a mask in the morning though, if I have time. Fancy. Yeah. Well, there you have it, folks. Drink water, blood of your enemies. Blood of children under five.

Yep. You know, the dust of fairy pixies that you have to catch in the Amazon. Those things. And you see a dermatologist, don't you? Yeah, I do actually. Is that a regular thing? It started with, because I used to use a tanning bed pretty regularly when I was in high school. Naughty. And I remember very specifically Ben Cleveland pointed at me while we were on the track saying, you need a tan. Because I was very pale as a child and I got bullied for

it. Yeah, fucking cunt. Anyway, I got bullied for it and everyone tanned, like people into tanning beds. And so I was like, I guess I'm doing this too. And I did it a lot and I didn't look good. I was like a red tan. I looked like I was out of breath a lot. I just went for a run, but I wanted to not be pale. I did that a lot and totally fucked up my skin. My dad had some melanoma removed on his back. Whether or not that's kind of like I'm more predisposed to it because of that, I started to go get my moles checked because I have many and they just pop up. So I like to go for that. And then it's nice because I usually will have like a, you know, kind of a year check. And if I have any skin concerns about anything, I can talk to her then.

That's how I get my tretinoin. And she's talked to me about what my skin is kind of like and telling me things like, you actually don't need that. That is not what your skin is kind of like and telling me things like you actually don't need that that is not what your skin needs which was always a surprise to me right like I would mention a specific product and she's like that's not for you you don't have to use that so that's good that's been helpful yeah um trying to think of anything else I did find out that we can get tretinoin here but it has to be prescribed it's the same here then yeah I that we can get tretinoin here, but it has to be prescribed. It's the same here then. I mean, you can get probably like products like it, but the question is, is it the same? Is it pharmaceutical grade or not?

Yeah, exactly. And I imagine ours is probably less, not as strong as yours. Well, you should be able to get different levels. Mine's actually not that strong as yours well you should be able to get different levels mine's actually not that strong it's like 0.25 i think it's on the because i started at 0.05 so it's a little bit yeah it's a little bit stronger than what i started but it's not the strongest you can get i think you even said that yours was 0.5 yeah but mine's only a retinol yeah and squalene which i find is a really fun word to say squalene but i think it's probably something that kind of around our age range and i think my dermatologist

would say even younger to like do as a preventative measure it's good to have so yeah all the reviews are great for it it actually seems to do something so that's wonderful yeah um i get really bad milia oh yeah i have to big and yeah if i moisturize too quickly after cleansing and stuff. Yeah. I get a shitload of little fucking white spots that won't come out because they're little bitches. But the retinol seems to really help with that.

I was going to say, I wonder if like you would be better off using something that's more oil based then. Yeah. I have thought about that. You should try it. I should do. Because I was using quite a heavy moisturizer. And I really liked what it was doing to my skin. Aside from the milia.

Aside from the milia, yeah. So I do use a lighter one now, but it is still predominantly cream-based. Next time I go to the derm, I'll just be like i i don't have any right now or maybe i will i don't know but would you say that this condition would respond better to this or this and see what she says yes do that and then i won't have to pay and go and see one yes but i that is something because i used to really load up on moisturizer and then i'd be like what the fuck is this and i think it was lauren who's like oh yeah that's millie that's because you're using too much moisturizer yeah just clogging your pores up yeah then you can't get it out great yeah i did actually i had quite large ones on my cheek

that would not fuck off um and so i googled home extraction and I did it myself is that advised? maybe don't try this at home kids yeah don't try this at home but it was pretty simple just get a needle I disinfected it made a tiny slit it was quite a big one

because the problem is they go hard underneath it's not like a spot that you can pop. Yeah, which you shouldn't do either. No, shouldn't do that either. It turned into like a disc. So I just made a little slit, popped it out. And I was like, but I have read that if you do it wrong or you make too much of an indentation, then it will scar.

Yeah, you'll look worse. So be very careful or just don't try it. Yeah. I would have done the same thing though, I think. And I'm blessed with thankfully not having really horrible acne, but I will get one spot kind of always around my like chin area. Always around there. I think that's like a hormonal thing.

Yeah. And that sucker, every time it happens, which thankfully probably is only a few times. I haven't in a while, knock on wood, probably bitch is going to come up when I have to take pictures. Type for the wedding. So fucking painful. And it's like everything I can do to not pop it. I've even had like Nigel look at me and be like, I pop that keep your fucking hands off my face bro so hard though because like oh I'm trying to cover it up with makeup almost just makes it worse and I just might as well just be like hey this is

my friend Sally she's gonna be joining for dinner and I find as soon as you cover it up you're like okay that's fine and then 10 minutes later you look in the mirror and you're like, well, that's fucking red again. It's like almost like, hey, look. Hello. Trying to cover me up and I'm, oh my God, I'm back again. Spots. Lovely. I appreciate that people wanted to know because they think my skin is nice. I'm certainly like had a battle with it. Like I said, acne has never been a major issue for me,

but even like when I was a kid, I can't remember if I talked about this. Did I, when I was a kid, I had like the little white bumps all over. No, you didn't. Yeah. I was like sixth grade. And so my mom took me to the derm. And I think what they gave me actually was just a really strong retinoid, but my face fell off and it took like a month and a half before my skin stopped peeling. And I looked worse. And I went to school and people were like, what's wrong with your face? It was awful. But I think that honestly, like at that age, did something to my skin that made it so I didn't have that issue as much anymore. It's just frozen you in time. Oh, God, I wish.

No, I wish I didn't tan. That's like my biggest regret. I feel like if I didn't, I wouldn't have felt inclined to get Botox every so often, which is another thing that I've done. But that's really just like the wrinkles right between my eyebrows which it's helped i fully fully endorse botox if i really want it i mean that's incredible like if you could train yourself not to do that but i've tried yeah it's hard well because everything makes us miserable this world sucks and i realized that i do it all day at work if i'm reading if i'm concentrating no stop it and i got i mean i had lines there in fucking high school like i had them in high school because i walked around frowning all the goddamn time but my derm said the younger you start the you're you get used

to not being you train yourself not to do it and you're less likely to need it when you're older and by the time people are getting it when they're older it's kind of too late like yeah there's only so much it can do yeah they're not wizards come on yeah i have thought about it it's weird i go in and out of caring about it yeah sometimes i'm like oh i don't care it's just 11s whatever yeah but then other times i'm like oh i hate it like oh stop it doing it again i just say like this all the time or just like put your thumb there zoom meetings i'll just be sat like this don't mind me you could just tape i know a part of me feels a little bit ridiculous that i've done it but then and i remember thinking when i was like 26 or 27 i would be like i would never do that

and then i went to see my derm and we talked about it and i was like okay or 27, I would be like, I would never do that. And then I went to see my derm and we talked about it and I was like, okay, I'll give it a try. And I was just like, oh my God, they're fully gone. They're fully gone. Have you had any side effects from it? I haven't. I mean, she's only done a little and I only go, like, I think if I get it again, it's like once a year, you know, maybe a little bit more I had a really rough summer in a couple months so I was like oh boy I'm looking a little bit rough because even though my 11s are gone I've noticed that like I still do this a lot and so a part of me was like do I want her to do more I don't know because I also I'm like it's okay to age you know I want to make that clear that's the most

important thing girls is we are allowed to age and everyone gets wrinkles they suddenly pop up don't they you're like oh my god yeah it's that before I'm getting old yeah but again i've heard people getting getting their brow done and it can cause too many glasses off like your eyelids to droop yeah do it wrong that is a side effect even if they do it right it depends i think on how you're i have a friend that happens too it's temporary but i think it depends on kind of your brow bone, your face shape, like how your eyes are. And I've been lucky enough that probably because I have a giant forehead and I don't know, like wide set eyes or something that hasn't happened to me, but I've heard about it and

it's, it is temporary and I don't notice it on this person that when it happens to her, but I think it's just because you know your muscles are paralyzed and so it probably has to just kind of like yeah readjust for a minute so well find a good injector that's all i'm gonna say i think that's the thing yeah like i go to my doctor she's a doctor where i know you can go to like a spa and it's an esthetician and maybe they're really good but I think that's when you hear some of the horror stories too yeah sure that is someone who's like I'm practicing can I can I come do it in your basement with a bunch of your friends and then people have really jacked up faces Oh dear. What we do for skincare and beauty.

And I just talked about it all on a award-winning, critically acclaimed, internationally known podcast. I just admitted it and I think we should all feel comfortable talking about, you know, the things we do, our insecurities and stuff. Mine unfortunately is getting older older even though it's okay and i have to keep telling myself that but here i am so now everyone knows those are that's my skincare and uh but yeah back to don't tan just don't wear sunscreen wear a hat just wear a hat cover your arms jemma stop tanning i do really like a tan I'm not going to lie But you're such nice skin You don't need to be brown I look so much better when I'm brown though

I don't have to wear any makeup And I look all Mediterranean I love it I look sun kissed I mean you can still Get color even with SPF But I think that... That's it.

I still wear SPF. I still think that means your skin's getting damaged, though. Yeah. I don't know that I'm not a doctor. What the fuck do I know? It's just UV, isn't it? It fucks you. Yeah.

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It is like midnight there, sorry. That's fine, don't worry about it. So... I was hoping that you could tell me how things have been going over there since you guys decided to say deuces to the rest of Europe. Oh, you mean Brexit? Yeah. Hmm. Absolutely wonderful. Killing it.

Absolutely killing it. Can I just say to you what my understanding as an American who has a little knowledge and knows people over there and has talked about it kind of on occasion but still doesn't really know much about it just tell you what i think i understand it to be yeah first and foremost brexit to me sounds like a biscuit and i don't know why a breakfast biscuit yeah and i just recall because this was a couple years ago now right when like it first before the vote even um but it was basically some politician or group of politicians decided you know what england first we sure are tired of all of these immigrants coming over and stealing our jobs which actually was like uh you know that sounds really familiar i'm not gonna lie um and basically we're you know we need to focus more on our country keeping money here

and like our economy and like basically england wellness yay and so then there was like a good like momentum with that to the point where it eventually went to a vote and your country was like yes but maybe it was kind of a narrow margin yeah so that's pretty much what happened okay so a little bit of nationalism yeah i mean to be honest i before it really happened i hadn't heard you know anyone say we need to leave the European Union. It wasn't a conversation that I'd had with anyone. But yeah, so it came about, I think it was David Cameron, Prime Minister at the time. And enough people apparently wanted it or supported it. So we had the referendum vote in, I think it was 2016 now, which was fucking years ago. Was it?

I feel like it was a little bit later than that, but maybe... It was. It was 23rd of June, 2016. Dear God. Okay. Okay. But it didn't actually, like, finally happen until more recently, right? Okay. Okay. But it didn't actually like finally happen until more recently, right? Okay. So yeah, you're pretty much right. And it was a load of nationalists that wanted it,

obviously. A bunch of white people, white men. A bunch of white people, yeah. And so on the lead up to the vote, once it was decided that we were going to have a vote, there were obviously loads of campaigns for leave or stay. So it was kind of like, you know, an election. But it was to leave or to stay in the European Union. And that was a load of shit. And that was a load of shit. So the Leave Party wanted us to leave because they were saying that I think we paid, I can't even remember what it was. It was like 39 million a fucking day or week or something into the European Union to be part of it.

And they were like, we can save that money and we can pump it into the NHS. Also, we can control our borders and we can have a point system for immigration like Australia. So it's more difficult for people to come over to the UK, which, again, I'm like, I don't really see the problem with people coming here but okay fine um because like part of the benefit of being part of the eu was you guys also could go to those countries yeah travel stay live work very easily you. Your passport was a European Union passport, right?

That's it. We have the right to roam or freedom to roam. So yeah, we could go to any European country without visas or anything. But it was a very unknown situation. No country had ever left the European Union. So no one could actually give any definitive answers on what it meant to leave, what that would look like, how it would affect us. And this was during the lead-up to the election when people were like, what does this mean for us? We'll get back to you on that.

Yeah, we're not really sure, but it just means we can stop people coming to the country and taking our jobs, which people seem to have a real problem with. I know. Plus all this money, right? Yeah, all this money that we're going to put back into the NHS. It's going to be fine. It's going to be dandy. Yeah. know what to vote for because I had the leave side sort of making these false promises, but without any, you know, factually based evidence to back that up. And so for me, the decision to stay was, well, this is what we know works. So I'm going to stick with that. And what I did realize

we know how that works and it was very interesting on the lead up to it listening to people's opinions on it, I think it was kind of similar to like when Trump got in for you you it gave people permission to just be outwardly racist um and it was pretty disgusting to be honest there were a lot of people that I knew and like it tended to be the older generations yeah and i think the majority of the vote as well it was won by the older generations who are now mostly dead so thanks guys yeah appreciate that

but yeah anyway we had a vote it was a really close vote this is also a problem I have with it. So it was 51.89% for leave and 48.11% for remain. That is close. There was a difference of 1,269,501 votes, which is not a lot no and i think for decisions as big as this there should be like you need at least like i don't know like 70 of the vote or something yeah like that's too close it was pretty much split down the middle but do you have numbers on people who didn't vote like i'm curious because we always talk about like people simply don't vote and that's kind of why we see some of the shit we see i'm curious if like the younger generation over there if they had voted if that would have made a bigger difference and like those people might have been the people who perhaps would

have voted stay too yeah i imagine there was quite a lot of the young population that didn't um I don't have no I you guys might not track that either the same way but but I remember my partner at the time um didn't care and didn't vote and i found that incredibly annoying and upsetting because i was like this is a really fucking big decision for our country and i think everyone who can vote should vote because we all need to have an input on this um so that caught it didn't cause arguments but it it made me question yeah um common values and values yeah did he say why he didn't care or was it just like i don't give a fuck who cares kind of like that pretty much yeah i was just sick of hearing about it and i just don't care about it i don't want to talk about it and i was like but i want to talk about it it's a really big thing

that'd be yeah that'd bother me too to be honest so i've got some stats for you that was so dramatic can you put some music there so i was thinking about sort of the impact that brexit has had and in my opinion it's been a negative impact but we have also had the pandemic right which has caused you know huge inflation um and we've also obviously got the war in ukraine with russia lost the queen i don't think that matters that much. Yes, we lost the queen. I somehow suspect that Trump being president probably fucked things up a little bit too.

Probably, yeah. So it's actually only been three years since we officially left the European Union. So once the vote happened, something called Article 50 was triggered, which is like, I guess, like a sort of contract saying you're leaving, you need to set out your deals, make all the decisions, and then you're out, motherfuckers. But again, this had never happened before. Of all the countries in the European Union, no one's ever left. So this was completely unprecedented. New to everyone. New to everyone. No one knew how to deal with it.

And obviously, the European Union didn't want us to leave. We were one of the biggest contributors to the European Union. So they didn't make it easy. They weren't just going to roll over and give us all the best trade deals and right it was quite a difficult process from what i hear do you do you think they tried to incentivize like getting you guys to change your mind at all like make it painful enough that people were like we actually don't want this now because didn't even someone resigned after the vote too because like dave cameron maybe yeah like it was him so he started the movement and then he was a remainer so okay yeah when the vote lost he was like yeah

he was like you know i can't lead the country into something i don't believe in so yeah which is fair enough really you know very very very fair but i feel like that was the start of your revolving door of pms a little bit yeah a little bit no offense no i wanted the job and i don't fucking blame them to be honest me neither okay so I found um a lovely little article which just sort of sums everything up for us I love that so this is a BBC article um I read quite a few but some of them are very difficult to read because they're written by economists and it's boring um write me something that you would could see on the explain to me like i'm five exactly so essentially we pulled out of the single market so that meant we had to then we could before we left the eu we could trade freely with any countries in European Union because we were one big party.

So as the UK pulled out of the Single Market and Customs Union in 2021, companies trading in the EU faced new rules, new paperwork and new checks on some goods that prompted fears over what would happen to the 550 billion of trade between the UK and its nearest trading partner. There was an initial dip in the amount the UK exported to the UK, the EU rather.

Once teething problems were dealt with, trade volumes recovered to pre-pandemic levels, according to official figures. But it could be argued that trade might have grown more had it not been for brexit right so when the british chambers of commerce surveyed 500 firms recently more than half of them said they were still grappling with the new system the red tape may have deterred some small exporters altogether. And a study of customs classification shows the variety of goods we export has diminished. It's a very similar story for imports. economics points out that the price of food imported from the EU,

the likes of tomatoes or potatoes, rose maybe as much as 6% over 2020 and 2021. And that was before the recent jump in inflation as well. So in other words, food's really fucking expensive now. Which I always like, that was something that always kind of surprised me about England is how cheap the produce and some stuff was compared to here. So that's a bummer. Not anymore. Boo, I'm not coming.

No. Unless that potato is 2p, not setting foot in England. I mean, on the flip side, it has made it easier for domestic food producers to compete. And so there has been apparently a five billion boost in that area. So I think we're producing more of our own food now. Yeah, that makes sense. That's not a bad thing. It's pretty good.

But what about trade deals, Catherine? I hear you ask. What about trade deals, Gemma? What about trade deals, Gemma? What about trade deals? Okay, well, they could help, but it's still early days. So in total, 71 trade deals have been struck, which is swift progress. But the vast majority just replicate the deals that we had when Britain was part of the EU. just replicate the deals that we had when Britain was part of the EU. So we've since signed new deals with Australia and New Zealand, but they're only expected to provide a tiny boost to trade,

and even that will take several years to sort of come through. Plus they're a little bit controversial because some UK farmers think they'll lose out because they're talking about like importing meats and vegetables and things like that well question and you might not know the answer to this so basically the like domestic farmers produce growers and stuff have been able to kind of compete because there was a gap in time or like in the market because of basically the UK having to recreate the same contract that they had when they were with the EU is what it sounds like so basically it's like well it's just going to be the same thing but we have to start all over as a non-EU country now but it's going to be the same contract which gave them the opportunity to, I guess, fill in.

And now they're no wonder they're pissed. Yeah. There's also the problem, though, that because obviously it has restricted people coming to this country. completely fucked by yeah like the transport industry you know hospitality care even the nhs has been a bit screwed by it because a lot of our workers were from the eu and i think a lot of the eu were pretty um um what's the word uh tired ugly smelly yeah all of those no they're not i'm sorry i don't mean that i'm sorry i didn't either i was just naming adjectives or whatever that word is um they took offense to it that's what i'm trying to say so i went to because they were the reason right well yeah they just couldn't understand it i remember i went to

uh i went somewhere i can't remember germany or something yeah and um we were at a bar and like the barman said to us he was like why do you guys want to leave the eu like what have we done and i was like i don't like i i voted to stay it's not my decision um and i was like i don't know i don't know why like please don't take offense to it it doesn't mean we don't like you but i think a lot of people you know, foreign people that were working and living in this country suddenly felt like we didn't want them there. Well, I think they were told that because you talked about the people who got more vocally racist. Yeah, exactly. I suspect they probably were targets.

I mean, I heard comments from people that I was like, what? heard comments from people that I was like what so and that wasn't even about me but I heard people make comments about Polish people for example yeah like what like what do you mean so yeah jobs have been um really affected by it which is ironic considering it was all the racists that were like all the foreigners coming over and taking our jobs and it's like well now it's no one wants to work anymore no one wants to work anymore and it's like then you go work that job that you actually just like ousted people because you thought they were taking your job yeah actually no the british people don't want to do those jobs so that's why they're doing them why is our food so expensive because there's no one working at the factories to produce it now exactly so yeah and there's think tanks that think that there's um around 330 000 fewer workers in

the uk as a result of Brexit. That may be only 1% of the total workforce, but sectors such as transport, hospitality and retail have been particularly hit hard. Also, our GDP growth since Brexit has been shit. Compared to before the pandemic? has been shit compared to before the pandemic yeah so from 2019 to 2022 um for example the united states have seen growth of 4.3 percent canada three percent italy 1.8 percent france 1.1 percent united kingdom minus 0.4%. I'm sorry. I was expecting like 0.1, not like a literal negative number. Way to go, guys.

Even Italy got a percent. Nil poids. nil poix um there's also been loads of trouble with um the what's it called the northern ireland protocol have you heard about that why don't you just act like i haven't but sure so essentially for people that don't know obviously northern ireland is part of the uk it's a part of the united kingdom but the republic of, Northern Ireland is part of the UK. It's a part of the United Kingdom. But the Republic of Ireland, which is part of the same little island, is not and is independent. But obviously, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland share a border. So the Republic of Ireland technically still in the EU.

Well, they are still in the EU. technically still in the EU. Well, they are still in the EU. But because Northern Ireland now isn't in the EU, there's been a whole load of arguing about it. Fucked a load of shit up with trade and imports. What they're going to do about

the border. And obviously there's been a lot of unrest in the past between Ireland, hence the Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. What? Yeah, so that kind of took a long time to sort out. It seems like there's a new framework now involved called the Windsor Framework, which essentially it's not been put in place yet but it envisages two lanes so if imports are going out and then yeah so if it's coming from like

Scotland or England to Northern Ireland then that can be sorted out quicker and processed quicker but if it's coming from the eu then it goes in the red lane which there's more paperwork and more bullshitting around to sort it out basically so hopefully it looks like there's not going to be a a full border um okay but you said this happened and we've been in brexit mode for three years, and they're still just trying to figure that out, huh? Oh, yeah. And we've still not arranged trade deals with, like, loads of countries. Is that why you don't have any bananas? Yep.

I don't know why. I kept hearing from, like, Nigel, kind of jokingly, like, bananas. We're not going to have any bananas. We had a real shortage of peppers and tomatoes at one stage. I thought initially that was Brexit, but apparently it was just because there was really severe weather in Spain, which is where we get most of our imports from. So it wasn't actually Brexit. Maybe a little. Yeah, maybe a little bit.

But I mean, all in all, the UK is pretty fucked. Maybe a little bit. But I mean, all in all, the UK is pretty fucked. It feels like it's Brexit's fault, but there have been other contributing factors, such as the global pandemic that we had and the war in Ukraine, which has given us a huge energy crisis. So everyone... I'm just watching you stroke your mic stand. That's all.

It's nice, isn't it? I'm listening. It's like I'm just watching you stroke your mic stand. That's all. I'm listening. It's like, I'm hearing you watching that. It's like some weird audio visual ASMR. Continue. What was I saying? Yeah, we just fucked basically a little bit. Well, you're talking about the contributing factors, which I think is important. And unfortunately, like you and I aren't going to know, but I bet there is a way to untangle some of that um what specifically is can like due to Brexit what is specifically due to the pandemic and I think you can if you just look at other countries that are affected by those factors as

well and see how they're faring compared to us yeah and you could you could say like it is possible that the uk isn't recovering in the same way because of brexit and it might have like they the uk might be doing as well as or better than some of the other like pre-pandemic pre-pandemic levels that the other countries are seeing or higher but I mean the reality is like things aren't great here things aren't great in a lot of places we all know this quite a few places um maybe we should just move to Switzerland I think we had agreed one of them maybe I know that there's cons there, but I think I decided I was Finnish anyway. Oh yeah, you did, didn't you?

Yeah. So I think it's just a matter of you deciding what you are. Yeah, it's Finland. Happiest country in the world, Finland. Yeah. So we're Finnish. Okay. Have you heard from people who either were pro-Brexit or you suspect they were, who complain about things now in a way that makes you want to be like this is your fault yeah yeah yeah do you say that or do you just like die a little inside yeah I just die a little inside really and I do know people that have also changed their mind that voted leave and now regret that decision but

that also annoys me as well because i'm like yeah you should have thought of that well i remember talking about it and like it's clear that the information wasn't there and instead of saying we should investigate this further and then share it so everybody can make an informed decision. They still move forward with the referendum and people who like thought, well, money sounds good. And I do think like we've got a population problem. And so we probably should, you know, for however they justified it to themselves, voted. And then it was kind of like, I didn't know. But then it's like, then you say to your you know public servants we need more information before we can make an informed decision like no one's going to be mad and if

i remember correctly even after the vote didn't shit continue to get delayed because it was like we've never done this before we still don't know what we're doing so the date for brexit is actually going to be pushed out a little bit more yeah it, it got delayed, I think a couple of times. And there have been various instances where, as you say, like, because we're now more informed. And a lot of the information, especially on the leavers side has turned out to be a load of shit. Not accurate. Not accurate. Not accurate. And yeah, misleading information that people have said.

Holy fucking false. Yeah. Have said, you know, it was a vote based on lies. So it's not fair and we should vote again. But the problem is we can't vote again because then. What? You think the EU is going to be like oh yes welcome back exactly we missed you and we're not going to have any hard feelings about this at all no it's going to be painful

because it's not you coming home to your mom sorry mom that i sassed you that's not what's going to happen at all yeah i think you're right um so yeah it yeah it's a bit of a minefield and I think it's fucked us quite a bit but we'll see maybe in years to come we'll be a you know sovereign country

and we'll maybe you'll just come join us like a couple hundred years too late but eventually the United States and the United Kingdom will just become one again. Yeah. We'll create the AU. Okay. We'll workshop that.

AUK. I think that's Auckland, isn't it? Okay. Yeah, we'll watch a bit. The Kingdom of the united kingdoms perfect you're at it that's what we're stuck with can't change it now too late i mean you know that was interesting because like I only knew enough based on the times I was there and it was happening, listening to people talk and never really kind of explored

it further. I remember like looking at Nigel and being like, ha ha, you have to go through the same passport line as me now, you fucking jerk. And that was kind of it but I also felt bad because I knew like people that I cared about felt pretty strongly against and it was happening and like all these kind of concerns I felt concerned about what it meant for us too but Jesus Christ can you hear my cat yelling again she is loud we had to get her a buddy um anyway so i you know it sucks but what can you do we're getting fucked everywhere out of every hole in every hole and out of every hole yeah i mean it all just felt that was a crazy few years wasn't it because it was the brexit vote and i couldn't believe the result of that because i was kind of convinced that we

were gonna stay i was just like yeah why wouldn't why wouldn't you yeah why wouldn't we And I couldn't believe the result of that. Because I was kind of convinced that we were going to stay. I was just like, why wouldn't you? Yeah, why wouldn't we? And then that was shocking. And then obviously Trump got voted in over there. At the same time. At the same time. And I was like, what is happening in the world?

Because again, I was convinced that he would never in a million years win the vote even the people who voted for him i think felt that way it's just not gonna lie this world coming to yeah yeah the pendulum has seemed to have shifted to this like protector own kind of nationalism and like hatred of others kind of ego ethnocentric bullshit, which is so upsetting because like I would say on a macro and micro scale, people like do care about other people, but it seems to be this like collective nonsense of like hatred that people really can like sink their teeth into sometimes about things that actually don't affect them. Like sir, who thought we should leave because of job taking? Like you, we're never going to do that job you've never applied for that job you've never been turned down for that job but i don't know

and it should be the opposite it should be we're all connected and we should all help each other out and support each other and now what we're seeing is people you know hundreds of people dying in dinghies trying to come over to the UK because they have no other option. And these aren't as well just people wanting to come over and take our jobs. These are asylum seekers. They're people that are running away from war

and being blown up. Just as we would feel entitled to do if that were happening. Exactly. I look around and see and I'm like, you guys would do the same thing and you would feel entitled to do if that were happening. Exactly. I look around and see and I'm like, you guys would do the same thing and you would feel entitled to and you would expect those countries to welcome you with open arms and a little blanket and a little cup of tea and a little Brexit biscuit.

Brexit biscuit. It tastes just like Biscoff. Sound pretty nice. I'd eat it. But i would be sad about it good talk thank you for explaining that to me like i'm five good job you're very welcome um i also just want to preface it with i am no expert and don't really know what i'm talking about so i may have got some facts wrong there but don't bother fact checking me because unless you're Keith then it's okay all right yeah maybe I'll let you guys decide that I think the reality is though is we've made it clear we do

the barest minimum of effort and I thought that was great for little to none thank you so much seems like you did mountains of effort or just knew it because you're so smart. Yeah, I actually just recited that all off the top of my head. I saw it as you stroked your microphone stand in a non-sexual way. I just want to make that clear to everyone. Just for the listeners, I've got a new microphone stand. It's like a little sexual. She really likes it.

And it's really nice. It's got springs on it and i can move it about um up and down it's made this whole experience really enjoyable not that it wasn't before but i was sort of stuck in one position with my mic stand before and now i'm offended free to move baby i could stand up if i wanted to i you're making me want to set up mine and figure out how to fucking do it it's fun honestly look at it woo whoa like a rollercoaster

it would stop you from throwing yours across the room true yeah you're right and I could just sit it in a spot so that it could capture me as you all have noticed sometimes my voice is here and then it's all the way back here because I can't sit my ass still maybe you should just attach it to your

head and have it just going down like one of those fish well so that's why I wanted to get the arm set up for on my shelf up here but I could and then it would just be right there no matter what but i would still figure out a way to be like hey anyway it's late there you need to go to bed it is get some sleepies sleepy baby thank you baby okay baby as usual good to see you again and you and if anyone else doesn't want to get in touch reach out

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