Talking Shit with a Yank & a Brit - 27. UFO's of the Sea

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

This week we're talking conspiracy theories, we touch on the war on drugs, Nigel gives some notes and a juicy AITA with a questionable irish accent 👀Send in your stories, voicenotes, questions and dilemmas to [e-mail] or on socials @TSYBPOD

Hello! Welcome to Talking Shit with a Yank and a Brit. I'm Kate. And I'm Gemma. Welcome back. Thank you for joining us again on our wonderful Talking Shit podcast where we touch on various subjects such as... What have we talked about? Oh God, I don't know. Everything and anything. Mm-hmm.

Pens. Pens. I was looking at pens and then we also have talked about pens. We've talked about dating we have talked about gun control in america which is we didn't solve that one because that's still a problem no i think there is a solution to it as we you know if you listen to that episode you'll find our opinions and everything yeah i take that back. We did solve it. It's not our fault no one listened to us. Yeah, actually.

I think we also talked about fashion, the 90s. Oh, yeah, throwbacks. Yep, and we've done games, music. We always decide whether someone's an asshole or not and you know occasionally you will hear my cat or you might hear jemma's dog i've also someone spoke to me about our 90s episode um was like i can't believe you didn't bring up lava lamps. Oh, fuck. That was a very good point. Yeah, we fucked up.

Yeah. A few weeks ago, I saw a thing about lava lamps. I was like, oh my God, I love a lava lamp. Another thing that we didn't talk about that just occurred to me that you and I have off air talked about are what we call cootie catchers and what you guys call fortune tellers right like the little yeah like origami triangular things that predict your future with incredible accuracy yep yep we those were big I don't know why we didn't discuss those because I feel like we probably did those in the 90s at that age and then you know maybe digest why why we call them cootie catchers here yeah why I don't understand that I don't have the answer for you but I bet

one of our listeners at home does let us know then email us or get in touch on social meds uh i'm abbreviating everything now these days that's how i roll don't spit your coffee now that's gonna end up so poorly but yes i want you to try that also did you do the mash thing yes you did like mansion yeah attic uh shed house oh yeah apartment yeah mansion apartment shack ah we had shed and again right i think i was going to live in a shed with Justin Timberlake, I think with seven children. What was the other option? Jobs. I can't remember the job one.

I think I kept doing it until I got Justin Timberlake. I was just going to say, who cares if you live in a shed? You live in a shed with Justin Timberlake and your seven kids, all named JT. JT Jr. JT Jr. Jr. Nice. We've also got a little correction.

We're going to call this one nigel's notes uh last week we spoke about well we just you know casually mentioned that kate is now finnish because we're going to move to finland because it's happy there and there don't seem to be many troubles that modern people have to worry about um And we referred to it as Flemish, which apparently is a Dutch dialect. Yes, Nigel notes. I appreciate the correction. It was pointed out by a few other people as well.

We apologized. I think we caveated last episode with how tired we are and how limited our brain functioning is. So, you know, thank you for approaching it with kindness instead of ridicule and shame. Yeah, we appreciate that. We're just doing our best, people. That's all we can do. I, unfortunately, am still in probably that same headspace. So forgive me. Well, just come along for the ride, Cathy. I'll take you

on a journey of wonder and interest. All you need to do is react. Okay. I've got my coffee here from Kitty Town Coffee. Gonna do a little plug for no reason, because they're not our sponsor. Did you make it with a gendblut?

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Okay, I'll stop now. If you do want to sponsor us, then just get in touch at TalkShitToUsAtGmail.com. Thanks. Right, this week I thought we could talk about conspiracy theories. I love it.

Is this going to be the episode though where I find out that you believe some conspiracy theories and you find out and then we actually fall out now can't be friends anymore? Yep. What do you mean that the moon landing didn't happen, Gemma? The earth is flat. OK, Kate. Oh, no, I'm telling you i agree okay good with you there fine oh boy yeah okay tell me what you got i gotta hear these well i do although i don't believe

them necessarily i do find them really interesting and i love going down a conspiracy rabbit hole. Me too. I get really into it. It's kind of akin to true crime kind of obsession a little bit, I feel like. Yeah, I think you're right. It's just like, I got to hear this madness and talk about why it's plausible and not really and why people would believe such a thing or maybe I can understand it, you know. That's it.

So there's obviously a lot out there the most modern modern most recent one I guess is the is it the QAnon QAnon yeah that you yeah some of you Americans started off with like the worst one. Yep. Okay. Let's talk about it. QAnon. So it's like, interestingly, QAnon is like a collective, but also I think a conspiracy in and of itself. I don't know. It's just like this really big, dumb thing.

So is it just about COVID, QAnon? Or is it about loads of shit i'm not really sure because i started getting annoyed when i was reading about it i don't blame you okay so q anon is a decentralized far-right political movement rooted in a baseless conspiracy theory that the world is controlled by the deep state a cabal of satan worshiping pedophiles and that former president donald trump is the only person who can defeat it oh wow and i read that off the internet i didn't just pull that out of my ass so so it's basically a donald trump fan club really yeah and it started in 2017 which is why it's not just covid based but like covid i think

gave a gave it a lot of fire or fuel yeah so did donald trump start it i mean he's actually q i'm sure he is no i i don't think he did but he fucking loves it He loves anything that makes him seem like a really cool guy. Yeah, that's batshit. So did you know that it kind of started on 4chan and it's with this person or persons called Q who would post these predictions, theories, and it would be, for example, just like, wait until this day, because Trump's going to do a thing and he's going to send a message. And then like, it would be something like, you know, how a psychic can say, you're going to be really hungry in two days, you know, and it's like, oh my god, I was really hungry. It's like really vague stuff that can be very easily kind of like, oh, look, there it is.

Like he smiled at the camera during one of his speeches and they're like, that's the sign. CQ was right. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And I think it's where Pizzagate came from, which was. Yes, it is. OK. I think it was Hillary Clinton, theintons and a bunch of like celebrities

left-wing liberal people who i got really do you know what i'm talking about in yeah in a a fucking long rabbit hole and it it was also connected to justin bieber's song um the yummy one I didn't know that tell me so this is how I fell down the hole was so he released that song yummy and then he released the video to it and the video is of him like sort of playing a younger version of himself and going to like these celebrity parties where there's important people and it seems as though in the video he is implying that he was potentially sort of passed around as like yeah exploited and yeah a bit of abuse okay yeah and so I went down this rabbit hole and then yeah it started going into the whole pizza gate thing and how um they kill children and drink their blood and it was wild honestly yeah it that's crazy i didn't know that and the fact that the video actually

implies that actually kind of just makes me feel a little a little sad yeah it made me feel because that probably did happen we know people in positions of power abuse vulnerable people and kids stars in particular exactly so there's loads of little things in the video like there's like an image on a plate and if you look into it it's mad like that people are connecting every single thing in the video to like other stuff and yeah it's crazy shit makes me wonder if bieber is maybe of the q anon fan club maybe wouldn't surprise me he's probably quite traumatized from being a child star so and that's like one of their big things is like they are all save the children left-wing celebrities people in power love sex trafficking kids that sort of thing in that movie did you guys get it over there it's

called like it's very new and it's about like sex trafficking i don't know you I'm talking about? No. Hold on. It's super new. Okay, Sound of Freedom. And it's about like a real life person who may be like in the FBI or something who like helped like save some kids and take down a sex trafficking ring. I don't know. I don't want to see it

because it's actually funded by people who love Trump and QAnon and it's a bunch of, it's like a propaganda too. And I'm just like, I refuse. But here's the thing. It's like, it's really hard to argue with people who are like sex trafficking kids are bad.

Because yes, it is. It's very bad. We don't want that. No one's saying that. It's just some of the other wild shit. Yes. Because there was this website, there's a website called Wayfair.

There's this whole thing about how they're sex trafficking kids. And you would go look at like a product. And it's got like a cabinet that's called Jewels. And it's worth. You have to pay like four grand for it. And it's because you buy it. There's like a kid in it. What?

Yeah. Exactly. It's ridiculous. I think that's probably enough on q anon other than one thing that there's been like news article news reports about family members who've been like i feel like i've like my daughter my mother is dead because they are like so far deep into this like q anon conspiracy that i don't have a relationship with them anymore. Really? I think Anderson Cooper was like, it's a traumatic experience to lose a family member to QAnon.

Yeah, it's like they've joined a cult, really. Yeah, very much. I don't mean to laugh. It's so ridiculous that I can't help but laugh. It's just, it's so ridiculous that I can't help but laugh. Because, yes, it's like a cold. I guess a lot of it is also fueled by, like, Fox News and all this fake news that comes out. Like, there was a recent study, I can't remember who did it, but they spoke to a load of people. And basically they said that if it's said on these particular news channels, they believe it without question.

Yeah. And a similar thing is happening with our younger generation. So anything they read on Facebook or Instagram, TikTok, they believe. They don't fact check anything. People aren't questioning whether it's true anymore. They just take it for face value, which is really fucking dangerous. This is a message to all of the youth out there who do that.

And the elder generation. Well, I was... Do you really want to be lumped in with the boomers and the elder generation? Because if i recall correctly anytime there is a similarity or an interest shared by those groups we immediately move on to the next thing oh parents and grandparents are using facebook we're gonna to like Instagram now. Oh, they're using Instagram. We're going to TikTok. Yep. So it's just a really bad idea, first and foremost, to not fact check and to basically

engage in confirmation bias, which is seeking out information that confirms your already well-ingrained beliefs and not hearing other counter-narratives and being open to it. And also, you just seem really dumb. So don't do that. Stop. Stop it. Stop it. Go in with a curious mind. Don't accept everything at face value

and do your own research. Come to your own conclusions. Okay. PSA. Okay, so on to some more fun ones then. Mermaids. I didn't realise this was a thing until today. But apparently there's a lot of people.

I don't know what you mean. Well, there's loads of people that think that mermaids are real. Gemma, they are real. I don't know what you're talking about. People they're not real is that what you mean have you seen there's people out there do you think have you seen the netflix series mermaids they're real they are real well okay so this is um a conspiracy theory that's actually been going on for thousands of years. So the idea that mermaids swam through the vast oceans has been alive and well for thousands of years. In fact, the conspiracy theory that mermaids are real and world governments know about them but are keeping their existence a secret still persists today.

Always goes back to the government, doesn it um ufos of the sea so in 2012 the discovery channel released a mockumentary called mermaids the body found that set off like a social media frenzy um is that the one where they had like a skeleton it was fake yeah okay um i thought it was real though yeah people confused about how real it was and people went mental but actually it was all just fake and it was a mockumentary and again question what you watch guys come on i wonder if the makers of that mockumentary were like we should have maybe put a disclaimer at the top because we thought it was clear we thought it was clear it wasn't is that what makes some of those things so good uh it was some i think it was like a scary

movie or something and at the beginning of it they say this is based on a true story and it was like really fucking scary and i was like oh my god i can't believe that's true and then i googled it afterwards and they were like no it's not actually true they just put that in to make it more scary and you know it worked yeah so well and i think the thing about mermaids is interesting because it really does come from i think the lore of ancient times and sirens and stuff like that and sailors so like really that just i think carried, carried through just like, you know, like I said, UFOs and Loch Ness Monster and all of that. Like people see shit. Sir, that's just actually a walrus on a rock. But yeah, mermaid, whatever.

Let's go with that. It's funner that way. I like it. But with UFOs, the U.S. government have been releasing a lot of recent stuff. Yeah. On, what are they called now? UAPs? I don't know why they need to change the name, but whatever. And that, to be honest, my little conspiracy mind does think,

what are they trying to hide? Why are they coming out now and releasing all this stuff about UFOs when they've denied and denied and denied and denied it for decades what are they doing behind the surface I actually think that's a really maybe less conspiracy theory but it's good to wonder if this is excuse me if this is something meant to distract from some other news right because i think we've seen something will happen and then it's like oh well you know they're able to kind of like do this thing in congress and no one's talking about it um but then i'm also like well we can talk about it though like you just

said it now i want to talk about it but i think that's a good question okay so uap stands for unidentified anomalous phenomena that is actually like a really complicated phrase to say anomalous phenomena nothing phenomenon oh it's a catch-all term to describe objects detected in the air sea and space they just wanted to make one term for all of the areas that we don't know anything about. So a mermaid would be a UAP too. To be fair, I'm not saying that we have had UFOs here, UAPs,

but we do believe aliens exist because I think it's mental to think how vast this universe is i think one arrogant thing to think that we are the only intelligent life form within that like yeah that's crazy but i'm also like why why are they coming here or if if like why haven't they come and been more like explicit like hey yeah because i think we would do that honestly if we were finding them would you because it'd be terrifying like if you went to a world full of like eight billion other creatures to land and be like hey we've kind of done that i mean we've risked it by going to

the moon and like sending i mean i think we would have to scope it out first right yeah maybe that's what they're doing they're coming here scoping us out who knows but how long do they need it's we're only getting dumber true it's not like we're getting more advanced and dangerous we're just getting dumber and dangerous have you seen the bob lazar documentary no watch that so bob lazar is a a so he's a i think he's an engineer in the late 80s, he claims that he worked at Area 51 and was hired to reverse engineer extraterrestrial technology. Oh, okay.

And he, at the time, spoke out about it and spoke about all these things and showed people drawings and stuff like that. And no one fucking believed him just thought he was a nut yeah um and there's there's some claims that he made back then which have since been proven to be true so now his claims are sort of being taken as more credible um and there's a there's a netflix documentary it. And honestly, watch it. It's fascinating. And there's like crazy shit because he starts obviously making the documentary, but he's convinced that he's like being surveyed. And then lo and behold, like the next day, the FBI come in and like raid his property or the CIA or something like that and then that makes you think okay why if what he's

saying is bollocks and he's just a crazy conspiracy theorist why are they raiding his home well I'll tell you because he was arrested for aiding and abetting a prostitution ring and he was ultimately charged with felony pandering and he was he and his wife were charged with violating the federal hazardous substance act by shipping i mean those could be reasons why oh yeah that might that might do it not that that means his other stuff but you know that could be a reason yeah i mean that i think the documentary was made quite recently and those charges were in 2006 but maybe yeah but yeah watch it it was really interesting and by the end you're like fuck yeah I think whether or not we get to this today but as we're talking off air I think

you know just as there's always like a really convenient excuse about things like, oh, they're doing this to me. You know, big media, big pharma wants to make me look bad. It could very easily be, you know, the same as you're just a crazy person. Here's some charges too, though, to make you even look further not credible. Because governments are fucked up. They shady shit i know this like we know this is true so i mean i can't remember like after world war ii i think it was operation paperclip where the u.s government basically was like it'd be a shame for all these really smart um you know high high up in the nazi regime people to just like put them in jail they're

so smart we should have them come over here and make shit for us and we'll just give them new identities that's fucked up yep those people were war criminals evil and you're like oh but you're you did the thing you did the really smart thing that we yeah so I know that there's things like that that happen but I also just I guess I take everything with a grain of salt too so yeah that's it it's um it's weighing the crazy up I guess isn't it yeah how cool is the name laser though I just want to say I think it's laz. Oh, is it? Okay. Bummer. So you've heard of the Illuminati, right?

Oh, you haven't? Oh, this is exciting. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. I actually really loved the Dan Brown books. Thanks. So for anyone that doesn't know, the Illuminati is basically the conspiracy theory that the world is run by like a secret power called the Illuminati.

And they've got like a little triangular symbol with an eye in as their symbol. And then it just goes wilder and wilder. And they think that like certain celebrities are involved. Like they think Beyonce is in the Illuminati and that's why she's so successful. She's also in Pizzagate, you know, so. She's a busy lady. So this one is that Denver Airport is a hub for the Illuminati. Have you been there?

No. Tell me, I'll tell you if you have some examples, I'll tell you if I've seen it, what they're talking about. Okay, so they believe that Denver Airport is a hub for the Illuminati and the New World Order. It also acts as a gateway to hell. Who knew? Yeah, oh, I've totally been to hell from there.

They have great fries. Great fries there. So they think it's a hub for the lizard people who run the government and much of the world. Some believe that DIA is the home base of the Illuminati, while others believe it's actually a portal to hell. believe it's actually a portal to hell with blucifer which is the giant blue horse sculpture which killed the artist who made it with demonic glowing red eyes guarding the gateway so that's how you get in so there is a horse it is huge it did kill its creator and it does have glowing eyes it's actually very weird statue but whatever so apparently there are also weird murals on the wall depicting nazi imagery and a commemoratorium capstone plaque that mentions the new world airport commission

an organization that does not exist but between that the gargoyles in the jeppesen turmoil terminal rather and the interactive gargoyle that welcomes travellers to the Illuminati headquarters before correcting himself and welcoming the masses to Denver International Airport something weird seems to be going on here. DIA is either poking fun at all the conspiracy theories surrounding

the facility or they're hiding something in plain sight okay so it's definitely the first and i haven't i've always wanted to like go find that gargoyle because it's just a staff person who occasionally like well it's a robot like you know kind of some of those kiddie places that have the animatronic things and there's someone just speaking in a microphone somewhere that's what it is but of course he was gonna poke fun at all these theories why wouldn't you i would fuck it bring some tourists yeah no kidding um i haven't spent enough time to like walk around and look at all of the like different

symbols that people point to. But I've known about that. And some of like the people talk about kind of like, oh, and this, you know, at the Denver airport, this weird shit happens. And it's like, OK, yeah, probably some weird shit happened at the Denver airport. But I bet it also happens all over the place. They're playing on it. Yeah. What are your thoughts on Bigfoot Sasquatch? You know,

I don't know if I really have any. But you don't lay in bed and think about it? And how big his feet are? And how he's probably just really misunderstood. Yeah. Poor guy. He's been on his own for fucking years out there freezing his ass off yeah and he's just big and hairy like come on everyone leave him alone i think it's interesting that different cultures have different versions of it

like yeti sasquatch um bigfoot i'm sure there's other ones too. And I think, you know, people talk about these sightings and sure, you probably did see something. Was it just a big ass bear? Probably. Yeah. Maybe not. I don't know. What are your thoughts? Yeah. Right. I think, you know, it's possible that there is a big old animal out there. Yeah. But I just think with, like, all the technology we have and the amount of people that go out there hunting and whatnot, like, no one's ever managed to get a decent picture of it. It's always blurry and, like, fucking miles away. Just as he's walking behind a tree, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Every time. It just seems a bit you know okay well we've got good cameras now guys same with um the Loch Ness monster yeah like I do I like the idea of having like a big dinosaur in that one and only lock of all the locks in Scotland um but again no one can get a decent picture of it. They've even done like proper research.

Deep dive. Yeah, deep dive investigations. They haven't found anything. Although I think recently there's been more activity and they've, I don't know, got a new picture or they have a picture of some large creature from a satellite photo or drone or something i i like the idea too particularly if it's just this like gentle dinosaur but it's like this lake can't be that deep it's not the

ocean right it unless there's like a cavern somewhere that it just goes into oh they're coming i'm gonna go hide well like theories are that they because they've mapped the underwater area now and they think there are channels to the sea so they think it might just be like some sort of whale or a big ass whale or dolphin or something that comes in occasionally yeah something like that i just i just saw a picture of, it's obviously fake, but it's Loch Ness Monster sighted. And it's just like this big ass thing. And it's like, just smiling at the camera. And it makes me wonder if people saw this again, like we're talking about earlier, where people are like, oh my God, it's real.

If people saw this, again, like we're talking about earlier, where people are like, oh my god, it's real. I mean, to be fair, this is on National Geographic. I suppose they probably need to be like, this is not real, by the way. FYI. Disclaimer. It's for some sort of educational thing for grades five through eight. So I think it's just probably a creative writing prompt for kids. But the picture is so stupid jungle walruses is a quote in here oh as like maybe a possible an explanation but they talk

about other cryptids such as chupacabra you know yeah're kind of mythical creature. And a part of me is like. They've also become kind of a. Like a like a fable or there's like a moral to it, like, ah, Santa Claus says you need to be good in order to get presents kind of like that. Right. You know, like don't go outside at night and, you know, drink and do bad things because Bigfoot will get you. Yeah. The boogeyman's coming. Right. Right.

So this is another one. Which, to be honest, I think could be true. That we're living in a matrix. And this is all a hallucination, not hallucination, what do you call it? A hologram. Virtual simulation where we're all just hooked up to something in a coma. Yeah. Or I don't think literally, but a lot of very clever people have come out and said there's a very high probability that we are living in some sort of matrix or AI created world.

Which I guess makes it feel more credible. They might be fucking with us. Who knows? But looking for the answers of why are we here? Where do we come from? That seems like a credible or more, what's the word? Plausible? credible or more um what's the word plausible plausible explanation basically well let's walk down that path for a second shall we um i think one could even kind of say well sure because if we're looking at it from a purely religious perspective you could say

that you know if we are created by god and like kind of everything's based on his will his design and stuff that could arguably be said like we're all kind of in this kind of simulation virtual yes similar simulation of god right and that's why um it's like a not a test but just like a you know a simulation that is designed for there to be good things bad things you know people always talk about like why why would god do this if that was real well turns out maybe god's not just like this really kind of benevolent being. It's literally like we're here to kind of experience the ups and downs of life. And, you know, either we do it right or we do it wrong. And then there's heaven or hell.

It's all simulation. He's just playing a huge fucking game of The Sims. Yeah. I mean, I think that people could get really upset about kind of boiling it down to that. But I think in essence, that could be one theory. The second thing I would point out, though, is if we are in some sort of matrix and there's we're not supposed to know that. Then there it seems unlikely to me that people would be able to somehow figure it out, like the glitch in the matrix. be able to somehow figure it out, like the glitch in the matrix, right? Like if that happened,

whoever's controlling the simulation would fix it, be able to erase our memory, take out people who figured it out in some way so that they're not walking around talking about it. But I guess then the other question would be like, well, no one is really like believing it and like changing their behavior to address it so maybe it's not a huge risk right it all goes back to like if if there's a being or something behind it controlling it would they allow that to happen you know what i mean yeah i also read that there's conspiracy theories theorists that believe that we're like an experiment of aliens and so that's why they come and visit us because they put this little world on their little little project to see how how we are seeing if we destroyed each other with nuclear energy yet still dumb yep it's like oh

they they have the tech that we placed out there for them to find, but they're using it for really dumb shit. They created TikTok. That's not what we gave it to them for. No, God, they're so dumb. I honestly can roll with that one because it's kind of amusing. But, yeah. Yeah. But there are some conspiracy theories that turned out to be true, Catherine.

So there was one, which we probably haven't heard of, called the Dead Baby Project. Oh, God. No, I don't think I have, but it sounds horrible. So the conspiracy was, so it was after the, in the wake of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the US government commenced a major study to measure the effects of the nuclear fallout on the human body. So the conspiracy was that the government was stealing dead bodies to do radioactive testing. Turned out, was kind of true. The government was stealing parts of dead bodies because they needed young tissue and they recruited a worldwide network of agents to find

recently deceased babies and children and then take samples and even limbs each collected without notification or permission of the 1500,500 grieving families. Gross. Yeah. So that's pretty fucked. Well done, government. Well, and we know about the project, the Tuskegee, Tuskegee. Sorry, my brain. I'm not going to pronounce it right.

But basically, the US government gave a bunch of black people a vaccine to add syphilis in it just to like test the effects because yeah oh yeah because our government hates um you know black and brown people and that eventually came out that they did that um and basically told them they're giving them a vaccine and really infected them and then just kind of studied the effects of it without, you know, so fucked up. And, you know, now I don't blame people for not trusting the vaccine. I blame people who have no reason to not trust the vaccine, aka white people. You can't co-op their trauma, so stop. But I totally get why there's this distrust of, you know, that sort of

thing over here because our government actually fucking did shit to people yeah so and again this is another one so the government mind control conspiracy theories that the cia was testing lsd and other hallucinogenic drugs on americans in a top secret experiment on behavior modification and that turned out to be true it was known as mk ultra where they started using volunteers um to test lsd and hallucinogenics um but they soon started people volunteer to do anything just say we want to do this who's up that's it yeah people be like yeah i'll do some drugs cool but the thing, is they started dosing people without their knowledge as well to test it. And then that ended up in a load of people becoming mentally disabled because they took too much LSD, baby. Yeah.

What else? Dead babies, syphilis, LSD. These are all very government related, actually. Maybe some people have a point. I'm saying I get it in some ways. In other ways, I don't. But I think with all of those, like there was evidence. Some things, there's like no evidence.

It's all like, oh, see the image on the plate like yeah okay i've come up with this crazy theory and now i'm going to tell everyone about it they're all going to believe it and then we're going to run wild with it yep um okay so another one was that john lennon was under government surveillance. So at the time... It was because of his anti-war sentiment, right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, his anti-war songs didn't exactly endear

former Beatle John Lennon to the Nixon administration. Fuck Nixon, to be honest. In 1971, the FBI put Lennon under surveillance and the Immigration and naturalization service tried to deport him a year later well you know go back to england that's anytime like there was the the red scare when everyone was like you're a commie. And the government tracked people that they thought were, you know, anti-American commies who were, you know, and celebrities got impacted. Like, I think a lot of governments do that. You know, if we were in England saying we're being really vocal about stuff and they were considered us a threat, then, you know, we'd probably be like on a watch list, too.

You know, and it's just some of it it's like well i mean john lennon was a singer and vocal about being anti-war and i guess they justified it by thinking he has a large fan base that he could influence i don't know but it was also fucking john lennon like what's he's he going to do? You know, people recognize him everywhere. He's not going to get away with planting a bomb somewhere. You know, the same thing happened with, you know, like Woodstock and the whole free love movement and the drug movement in the 60s. That's when they banned LSD, mushrooms, you know, any hallucinogenic drug that actually opens your mind to feeling more connected with other people, they decided to ban it. And then they're like, oh, it turns out it actually makes people, you know, they think

they have really good ideas. But then when they come out of it, it's like, oh, that was actually really this art I painted that I thought was beautiful is actually really bad. But they were doing studies into it at the time, which were finding really interesting findings, which have now recently been taken back up because the laws have been relaxed and they actually want to know what's happening. And it's looking like, you know, lsd mdma psilocybin can have dramatic effects on depression it tends it's looking like it's working better than antidepressants and it actually resets something in your brain so people that have been suffering from severe anxiety depression you know

severe mental illnesses for decades turns out we need to do is take a few fucking mushrooms. And you're all good. Well, yes, I think we're talking about the really chronic cases, right? That aren't, you know, situational nature, don't respond to therapy or regular medication. I mean, ketamine therapy is a thing that's been pretty used pretty frequently now. And you have to wonder about it. And same when people talk about like the use of marijuana and helping with, you know, depression and anxiety too. You have to wonder though, because maybe it's more natural. Maybe it's because of some of the psychotropic effects they have. And I think the other key is like microdosing too because we also i was just reading a reddit article about a guy who took 200 hits of acid because he thought he

was getting pulled over and his friend was like he was never the same again i can imagine yeah in a way that like he's okay but he's weird so another dimension motherfucking hell yeah but you know it's it's just too bad that people don't want to consider those things um because it can be helpful to people who really the normal treatments don't work you know just like with cancer and pain relief yeah and ptsd things like that there's a really great bbc documentary because they're doing loads of studies in london now and have been for a few years and they follow some of those studies where they go into the hospital and they are dosed with whatever they're taking and you know they're sat in a really calming environment and they're with a therapist so it's not just like they give you the drug and off you

pot have fun have fun kid like it's a treatment we set up a rave in the basement if you're interested. But yeah, it was great. And they spoke to the people afterwards. It was really interesting. Some people weren't affected by it at all. And just were like, I don't feel any different. Researching it. But I had a great trip though.

I had a wonderful time. But other people had like really profound experiences on it. And, you know, said that they hadn't felt depressed for a month, whereas they'd been depressed for 20 years before that. And it's something we need to look into, guys, because nature has got a cure for everything, I believe. Except for, you know know being a dick there's no cure for asshole well just stop right yeah take a look in the mirror yeah yeah anyway that was kind of a i know that was a rabbit hole of our own i don't i wouldn't say that like drug you like drug treatment for chronic health and mental health issues is so

much a conspiracy but people just seem to have a problem with it right like well i think the conspiracy was created around it with the whole nixon thing it was him that oh right created it the whole war on drugs which ultimately has failed and will never work right no the war on drugs actually did far more harm than good than drugs actually cause you know yeah exactly same with like no child left behind and you know tough on crime it's it but you know it's all political bullshit because no one's going to win an election saying i'm going to be soft on crime right like so it's just like they don't consider the actual implications of some of the things that they you know say they just know it's what the masses want to hear right because again no one's going to be like you know what sex trafficking of kids isn't that big of a deal so like calm down

yeah we don't mind that it's fine um yeah it's it's because in portugal they've decriminalized all drugs now all of them um yeah and created like centers for like heroin addicts to go and safely do heroin and things like that needles have their drugs tested yeah i think that's really important and like i think the thing that people forget or automatically assume, like you can go get some needles and have your drugs tested. Oh, great. Well, let's just make it so easy for them to use drugs. No, they also actually have people there to provide resources and information for people who maybe do want to get clean and sober, you know, medical really kind of to help it's not just like it's with Planned Parenthood people are like oh just it's you go get your abortions there no

actually it has family planning and other services to actually limit the possibility of needing an abortion too so exactly fucking idiots exactly? Conspiracy theory is that the government is spying on you. With the advances in technology, the government is using its vast resources to track citizens. for user data to Facebook, 27,000 to Google, and 9,000 to Apple, according to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, EFF, a major non-profit organisation that defends civil liberties in the digital world and advises the public on matters of internet privacy. You've probably also heard that your computer camera could be used to spy on you.

Now, this is something I know about from my line of work because we often do like… You spy on people with their webcams? No. No, we have to learn like… What do you think I do all night? I'm watching you. Aww. I just like it.

I feel close. I just like it. I feel close. But no, like obviously we do training on like cyber security and what hackers can do. And man, they are terrifying. So, for example, they could hack into your phone, your iPhone and say it's on the side of your coffee table and you've got some bank documents, something like that, they can take a 3D image of your room and put together and read any documentation you've got lying around with all your personal information, social security, bank details, things like that.

Well, and I do love leaving those just out in the open. Yeah, who doesn't? I'm just lying around in my house. Yeah, and I put my phone right next to it all the time um yeah i i well just like you said like there's advances in technology that are really great but also can be used for bad things right but i do want to just the thing about the u.s government anyways it there's this thing called the Patriot Act. And basically, it says that the FBI can basically secretly and without warrant conduct a wiretap or search of any American citizen,

however they want, without probable cause. And our Constitution actually says that you have to have no unlawful search and seizure. You have to have a warrant probable cause. But actually, we can just make laws that say no. just write it it's fine uh you know under exceptional circumstances which we're going to also describe as literally anything we want it to be uh and then you know it's up to you know states or people to basically say that's not constitutional and then depending on what the supreme court looks like at the time they're going to be like nah it's fine so i mean it's we have laws that basically say that they're allowed to do this this should not be a surprise to anybody yeah it shouldn't uh i mean i've had weird things where like i've been on my laptop and then i've seen my webcam

come on a little light come on and i'm like uh what the fuck's happening like shut it do you have like a little flap on yours? We have, my work one at least has a little like slide cover. So sometimes I'll just, just in case I'll just close it. You should. Because it could just be a perf trying to check you out. Well, I'm less concerned about my work laptop, my personal one, which arguably has less security on it.

The one I'm talking to you on right now. I mean, it has plenty. It's very,'s very very secure you know who could be listening the little lights on right now oh my god oh it's just us because we're all welcome yeah yeah i don't know i think just kind of assuming that it's probably happening at all times and just whether you care or not or accept that risk or can at least take some modicum of like safety measures to like don't keep all your personal documents out in the open. Yeah, don't open dodgy looking links on emails. If there's spelling mistakes in emails, don't click on them. Like it's crazy how many people do that genuinely even we've had you know things happen at work where i'm like you work in investigation how are you not

looking at that email and your name wrong they spelled their name wrong it said you know am ozone yeah we have to do trainings for that at work and they also will send us little test ones to see if we fall for it yeah so fun cheeky buggers what do you want to do am i the the asshole? You know you are, baby. You know I do. Am I the asshole for admitting in front of all of my husband's friends that I've never had an orgasm? Juicy. Okay, what accent should I do? Let's do it.

I'm going to do a southern accent, okay? Perfect. Recently was my husband's friend's birthday party. And it was a bigger party and all my... I can't do it. You started just skewing to straight American, which is fine. Do... Can you do like a...

Maybe Irish? Can you think you can hold an Irish accent Oh I'll say okay Irish right okay Tirty turt So recently It was my husband's friend's birthday party It was a bigger party

And all my husband's friends and their wives were there No kids One woman that I'm friendly with was annoyed with her husband and joked, Men, if they didn't get us off, why would we keep them? And she laughed. I awkwardly laughed, but I guess I looked uncomfortable

and she asked me what was up. And she pointed out that I made a weird face. I said, I've never had an orgasm before, so I guess I couldn't relate. Almost a dozen people looked at me, and when I said that, it was super awkward. The wife then awkwardly asked,

is everything okay down there? And I said, yeah, I've just never had anyone try, I guess. For the next ten minutes, all of my husband's friends took turns insulting him in various ways. Many women talked about how they'd never be married to someone who couldn't get the job done. My husband made us leave early and when he got home, he lectured me about how I humiliated him. I pointed out that she had asked and I have a tendency to be honest. He's been really upset over the last couple of days and he keeps trying to say that we can't talk to his friends now because they think badly of him.

Am I the arsehole for being honest here? Okay, nice job, first of all. I actually thought that was really perfect because that feels like a conversation that two Irish lasses would have. It does, doesn't it? Yeah. Not the asshole. I've got an edit. Sorry. Okay.

Sorry. So you also guys want to say I've brought up the issue on countless times in the past and he tells me it's not important slash not a big deal that he doesn't get me off. Since it's not that important I don't see why I have to hide it like I'm some kind of dirty secret. Fuck that guy.

Now, I was going to say it would be probably more assholey behavior if she did it with the intention to humiliate, shame, embarrass him in front of people. Right. Like if they were having a fight and she's like well you've never made me come so fuck you you know right but she couldn't she couldn't like fake that because she also can't fake an orgasm i guess um but when like when that woman made the comment she couldn't be like oh yeah totally yeah and poor her because I feel like if she knew like how to address this in a way that was like well she's trying if her husband knew how to respond in a way that was um you know sensitive and caring and actually like it seemed to you know prioritize her in some way then you know maybe she would have been a little

more discreet about it but as she like she said he said it wasn't a big deal so I guess I just thought it wasn't a big deal I mean what I would say to the husband is well if it's not a big deal then every time time we have sex, I'll just stop just before you come, mate. Yeah. Whether or not you do, when I'm ready to be done, I'm just going to be done. Yeah, I don't really care. Yeah. I'm just going to stop because what I'd say to her is there are plenty of help you can get.

There's toys. There's, you know, sex therapists that you could talk to. Yeah. Your husband sounds like a douchebag because everybody should enjoy sexual activity yeah i can i can sort of see why he's pissed off because he's probably embarrassed but that's his fucking fault for not trying well yeah and the fact that his friend fact that his friends are making fun of him i think should make him feel like oh maybe i should actually care about this you know oh everyone else is doing it well and the fact that i haven't is like a me problem rather than a her problem how did our ages on that like does it say I, whatever, female? No.

I'm sad for her because of the nature of the relationship, too, among also the fact that that's not an experience she's ever had. But if she's older, too, there could actually be some sort of medical issue going on. Yeah. Or she's just had very poor lovers. That, too. I mean, we're making some assumptions assumptions here but let's just say she's you know in her 20s whatever and he's like the only person she's been with right then maybe he's just really bad and doesn't care and she's not unfortunately had the opportunity to like kind of experiment i guess and also the female orgasm is a lot more complicated than the male orgasm

like yeah men see and get turned on whereas we often need to feel secure um able to be vulnerable safe um and it it takes a lot more to prime that pump a little more. Exactly. You've got to warm up that oven before you stick in the turkey, guys. Mm-hmm. Yep. What other euphemisms can we talk about? I'm sure there's lots. up the whole experience as um you know um uh a tolerable event some women just have sex because

they feel like they should it shouldn't be like that everyone needs to enjoy what they're doing he does sounds like he doesn't give a fuck so yeah to the extent that they have, you know, the frequency in which they have intercourse, I my guess is it's he doesn't really worry about where she's at. Nope. At the time. And like how much how much effort he needs to put into, you know, really butter her bread, so to speak. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And fun fact for you that 80% of women cannot orgasm from penetrative sex. So guys, you really need to be focusing on the foreplay. It's the best bit for women. So just saying. Yep. And it's, you know, like we're, our vaginas are delicate little flowers that have lots

of different, you know, nerve endings in different spots. And, you know, it's not just a hole. It's other things. That's it. I think it's like 8,000 nerve endings on the outer areas of our flower. So just pay that a bit of attention and you'll… And that's just the start.

That's just the start, baby. There's loads of resources online don't look at porn though not very good uh it's not realistic guys for the younger generation specifically designed to be focused on the woman then maybe and be educational yep well not the asshole he's kind of the asshole the fact that he after that shaming he has not been like genuinely like trying to have a conversation about it just shuts it down and he's like can't see my mates anymore it dude i don't i don't want to say leave him because i feel like i've done that in a lot but like i that just sounds like a really unsatisfying

relationship that your partner really doesn't have any desire to make better. Exactly. Fuck that. Get out. Yeah. Well. Well, on that note. From conspiracy theories to the female orgasm, we really ran the gamut there.

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