Talking Shit with a Yank & a Brit - 3. Wubble U's & Strawberry Creams

Episode Date: April 6, 2023

This week we deliberate over: post pandemic life, british slang, dating slang, the alphabet and strawberry creams...Subcribe & Rate so we can talk more yank and brit shit!...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello! Welcome back to Talking Shit with a Yank and a Brit. How's everyone doing? Well, I'm good. How about you? Yeah, I'm good. Well, I'm good. How about you? Yeah, I'm good. Well, I think we have some listeners because we got our first episode published. Oh yeah, we did. I'm Kate, by the way. I'm the yank of this duo.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And I am Gemma, the Brit of the duo. Hello. But back to our publication of our first episode. That is an exciting milestone we reached. And thank you to all of our 10 friends and family who've listened, reviewed, shared. How many downloads did you say we had at last glance, Gemma? I believe it was like 68. So pretty good. It's nearly 100, which is nearly a thousand. Thanks, Mom, for downloading on every device you own. Thanks, Mom, for downloading on every device you own. No, seriously, though, it was a little nerve wracking for me once it was published because I immediately thought, oh, no, it's out there. But we got some good feedback from people, didn't we? Yeah, it's been really nice, actually um obviously worried about what we talked
Starting point is 00:01:47 about because i couldn't remember but uh yeah feedback has been good um so we're going to continue talking shit until we've run out of things we die I think that just some comments that I can share everyone that I know thinks you're really funny Gemma and the feedback I got is two people said my voice sounds
Starting point is 00:02:18 sultry so thank you very much for that we'll call you sultry Kate from now on then. I think it's important to note that I'm not funny, I guess. And I think I'm fucking hilarious. So. I think you're fucking hilarious too.
Starting point is 00:02:37 So. Thank you. There's my feedback. All right. Well, this is the third episode. Oh, well, I was just going to say this is the third episode oh well i was just gonna say this is our third episode and uh since we've started doing this i haven't been up to a great deal um let's see i you know, solved world hunger. Oh, wow. And I organized my closet. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:12 How about you? Well, spring cleaning. Yeah. It doesn't feel like it, but yeah, I guess. What have I been doing? I mean, the usual work. I went to a gig on Monday actually That was really good It was the first gig I've been to in ages
Starting point is 00:03:30 One where you weren't performing? No Just went up to London and watched A wonderful artist called FKJ Oh One of my favourites And it was fucking awesome I'm not familiar with that artist.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Is it someone worth listening to? Yes, I would highly recommend. He's like a multi-talented, multi-instrumenty, if that's a term. You're the music person. I know. So he plays loads of different instruments and like builds the songs loops it up and builds the songs
Starting point is 00:04:09 it was amazing check him out it's really good well there you have it folks recommendation from Gemma FJK do it maybe we'll have him on one day maybe I mean we're getting that big so
Starting point is 00:04:27 i'm ready to quit my job so say when's that happening our listeners range from omaha nebraska shout out to cassie levi and rocco raccoon uh and some DC folks, Hi Jen and Izzy and Hanan, and my friends Allison and Ryan, who are in Texas and currently Cincinnati. How about you? I mean, most people that listened in my group were in England, which is a lot smaller, mainly located in the southeast of England, really. However, we did have one listener all the way down under in Australia. So shout out to Claire. I think we're going to get you on as a little guest one day.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And I'd like you to give me some feedback on my Australian accent. Okay? Ooh, me too. Look what I found! That's all I can do. And that is an impression of Claire's daughter who Kate has never met finding a spider
Starting point is 00:05:43 not just any spider actually, a black widow spider in the back garden when I was visiting her many years ago. It's sort of an inside joke now. I don't even know if Claire knows about that, so there you go. Oops. She's fine. Daughter's fine. Yeah, she's fine. She didn't die. Spider didn't bite her. But yeah, other than that, not really been up to much obviously we published the podcast which is really exciting
Starting point is 00:06:11 um bravo to you for doing all of the work on that well thanks very much i'm just you know multi-talented in everything i do so, really a master of all trades. Google's really helpful. And YouTube. Well, here we are on kind of a sunny, kind of warm day in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:06:42 That's exciting for you. It's been raining all day here. What? I know. Since when? Can you believe it? I think it's been raining for about three months actually. How do you keep your hair so nice?
Starting point is 00:07:04 I just don't go outside. Fair. Me neither. Stay indoors at all costs. Interesting you mentioned that. I think we're going to talk a little bit more about that later today. Yeah. Indeed we are.
Starting point is 00:07:21 So I thought I'd kick things off today. Catherine. Kathy. Yeah. Kate. Oh God, no. um so i thought i'd kick things off today katherine kathy yeah okay oh god no i think kathy's your favorite isn't it oh no okay we'll stick with it wouldn't be that bad if the intention behind it or the meaning behind it wasn't so disgusting because if i recall well if i recall spaffy kathy is how it started oh yeah thanks alex stone Thanks, Alex Stone. Baffy Caffy. Could you explain for the listening audience at home what that means?
Starting point is 00:08:12 I don't know what that means. I think it has something to do with ejaculation. Yeah, my immediate thought was spunk, to be honest. Yeah. So maybe it's just that you're a really spunky character okay we'll go with that but kathy is not a name i go by generally an offense to all the kathys of the world but uh yeah i prefer kate okay sorry kathy i'll accept a katherine but i allow some of my favorite people to refer to me as kathy sorry i've got a bit of a cough you okay baby yeah i'm okay i just had covid the other week and
Starting point is 00:09:01 it's hanging on from that story of our lives these days huh the other week and it's hanging on from that. Story of our lives these days, huh? It was horrible, to be honest. Got it real bad. This wasn't your first time, was it? It's worse than flu. No, second time. God, it's just like really fucking knocks you out i mean obviously it's different for everyone
Starting point is 00:09:27 um but yeah really knocked me on my ass and just like weird things like your eyeballs hurt like what the fuck like why do my eyeballs hurt um fuck covid man fuck covid i'm sick of you well i'm glad you're on the mend but i am sorry that there's still some lingering effects yeah it'll go eventually you can still sing right but i couldn't actually for like a couple of weeks just had nothing in me but it's kind of come back a little bit this week thank god i was like oh my god what am i me but it's kind of come back a little bit this week thank god I was like oh my god what am I going to do it's fine
Starting point is 00:10:09 do you have any gigs coming up not in the immediate future no we've got a few booked for like May and a potential festival actually on one of the Channel Islands. I want to come.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah, come. Okay. Be there tomorrow. Come to Sark. Awesome. Okay, so I thought I'd kick things off with, we talked a bit about dating on our last episode. And it made me think of when I started delving into online dating, I was coming across loads of terms and acronyms that I
Starting point is 00:10:58 had no idea what they meant. And as you've been married for approximately 35 years now uh i thought it would be funny to see if you know what these terms mean i've been married since before dating since before dating started oh yeah okay this is gonna be fun because I'm not going to know anything. Okay. So I think we spoke about one offline, which was ONS. I had no clue. I had no clue. Saw it on someone's profile. This is the problem is I have to look at people's profiles or I have to Google shit because I don't know what anything means.
Starting point is 00:11:44 ONS apparently means one night stand so okay simple to me yep new to me too but simple so i mean if we're gonna just be doing acronyms i think i could probably roll with that but i i get the feeling that uh it's not gonna be quite that simple is that no it's not going to be quite that simple, is it? No, it's never that simple. So I'll do a few acronyms first. See if you know what these mean. So there's DTF.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Okay, I do know that one. Down to fuck. Oh, yeah, boy. What do I get? You get a gold star for that one yes i love gold stars um mba which is mother bravo masters in business administration they're bragging about their degrees yeah that's what that one means no that's that's married but available oh okay okay so basically signaling that they are married but some whether this is true or not have an agreement with their spouse that they can step out. Yeah, or are just looking to cheat, I guess.
Starting point is 00:13:11 That was going to be my question, is if you saw that, would you be like, no, there isn't some sort of open agreement here between the two of you, is there? No, I mean, I have come across profiles where they're quite honest about being in an open relationship or looking, you know, for a thruple or. Okay, this might be too personal. Is that something that you would consider? I'm just curious. No. Fair enough. Nothing against it. I just think I'm too jealous of a person to do that um
Starting point is 00:13:51 which i guess is one of my flaws maybe i don't know i just don't i just don't think i could share someone like that you never know maybe I could fall in love with two people who are in a relationship I don't know it's not something I've ever done I think it's good that you have some insight into you know being kind of having some jealousy in that regard um which makes it really a strength I think you know yourself okay I'll take that i'm really good at validating oh you murdered someone they probably had it coming they had it coming oh a little little glimpse into jemma's singing there for everyone. Plus, I love Chicago. So good. I saw it, actually, for the first time.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Oh, how was it? I've seen the film loads, but I'd never seen the show. Me too. It was really good. In fact, pivot real quick. Did you guys have AOL Instant Messenger when you were younger? Okay, so this is a familiar thing for you. I saw that movie so many times in the theater that i made like my aim screen name on everybody's lips which you know
Starting point is 00:15:15 because roxy has that song the name on everybody's lips is gonna be Roxy. But as you can probably venture to guess, no one actually perceived or interpreted my screen name that way. No, to be fair. I mean, I know that film really well. But if I saw that, I'd be like, oh, all right, Kate. Someone's been hoeing about junior high or high school is really young come on oh it's even worse i know it is but i don't know you're dumb when you're young right yeah true um okay how about nsa
Starting point is 00:16:03 okay and Okay. How about NSA? Okay. Not standard apples. No. That one is no strings attached. Oh, yeah. Fuck. I knew that. Of course course but what does that mean to you if you see that like we're it's just gonna be casual no expectations yeah i guess so um they just want to hook up okay fair enough um but you don't see that one that often anymore because you can literally put on your, they have like, I don't know, basic info.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And you can put whether you're up for something casual or something serious, blah, blah, blah, blah. Does it filter people to like show you similar matches who also like put that or you can if you pay for like the premium who pays for a premium who does that um okay so obviously we spoke about ghosting we all know what ghosting is um but have you ever heard of bread crumbing my immediate thought is the story of Hansel and Gretel leaving breadcrumbs to like get back to where they came from so like kind of think linking that to the dating world might like keeping keeping like something alive, I guess, just so like just in case you want to come back to it. Does that make sense? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yeah, that's pretty much it really. It's just like keeping someone on the hook. Yeah, they're not really interested, but they're just going to keep sending you the odd message just to, you know know try and keep your interest or I guess for a bit of validation oh that's kind of manipulative yeah um I've had that but I didn't know what it was at the time you didn't think that they were you didn't know what breadcrumbing was or you just didn't quite understand that that's what they were doing? Both really. And then I read about it on the Reddit dating sites and was like, oh, that makes sense. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Bye. Boy. thank you bye boy well i feel like we're doing the world a favor by talking about this so people know people should know about this yeah we're educating people what goes on in this terrible terrible online dating world yeah it's like a public service okay so breadcrumbing kind of related to ghosting but just like still kind of there like the ghost that yeah yeah exactly and that's kind of related to orbiting as well um which is essentially where like a person will ghost you but then continue to like stalk your social media um which again is like
Starting point is 00:19:30 quite can be quite difficult to deal with because you're like they ghosted me but they're still looking at my insta stories like are they interested what's going on here and okay i was just going to ask if like these some of the dating apps that you're on does do they tell you who's checking out your profile but you said I get insta because you can see who views your stuff and obviously you have friends and if they like like your posts but on the apps can you tell if someone's still kind of like checking you out no okay no no you can't see it but this is when it's kind of bridged into your social media the person you added them or something like that yeah what often happens is you'll be talking on the
Starting point is 00:20:13 apps and then you might exchange numbers and chat off the apps and then once you've exchanged numbers obviously insta will like connect their profile oh yes yes yes yes yes yes okay it'll say you might know this person or something like that yeah um okay that's interesting um never heard of that one. Cushioning. Hmm. This sounds like a sex thing. So this is when you meet someone you really like, but they're already in a relationship. The way they flirt with you via text makes it seem like they're interested, but they make no indication that they're planning on leaving their current partner.
Starting point is 00:21:06 This is cushioning, a.k.a. the act of keeping the seat warm in case they want to use it somewhere down the line. Okay, so that's basically just a new way of saying mixed messaging. Yeah, essentially. Sort of. Hmm. I like it. Short and sweet. Still sounds like a sex thing, though.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Yeah. Much like cottaging. Ooh, is that the next one, or are you... Okay. No, do you know what cottaging is? No. I'm married for 35 years. Okay, hold on let me get the definition up
Starting point is 00:21:47 okay so it's the action of engaging in homosexual acts in a public toilet oh okay just homosexual huh that seems oddly specific yeah
Starting point is 00:22:02 why not just any sexual act no apparently you need to be homosexual for that that seems oddly specific. Yeah. Why not just any sexual act? No, apparently you need to be homosexual for that. Okay. The, I'm not, it's not quite linking for me,
Starting point is 00:22:14 but that's okay. I'm old. Basically the boomer of millennial. Well, I mean, don't blame me. It's urban Dictionary. You created this.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I know you did. I was the creator of cottaging. No, I wasn't. Okay. Oh, the slow fade. This is a common one. Is it like the opposite of breadcrumbing? Yeah, it's essentially like a slow ghost.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Okay. Yeah, I think that's maybe what I meant. So communication just starts to like slowly drop. And they just fade into the background. Okay. Okay. Situationships. This was a new one. Well, I feel like I've heard this term.
Starting point is 00:23:21 It's almost like the throwback of when Facebook let you put it's complicated up, feel like but I might be wrong so tell me so it's essentially the space between a committed relationship and something more than a friendship um so there's a situation yeah so it's like oh i don't know really how to explain it it's just basically you're pretty much in a relationship but like potentially one person doesn't actually want to commit so they have the benefit of the relationship but like oh you know don't want to make it official um oh yeah sounds complicated does sound complicated yeah uh but yeah apparently it happens a lot
Starting point is 00:24:12 have you had a situation ship no i don't think i have i feel like probably have, but it was far too long ago for us to come up with such a clever term. Yeah. Because again, married for 35 years. I know there's like, I feel like, what have I heard recently? I hear cuffing, you know, cuffing season a lot, which I kind of know what that means. And I think the thing that I always wonder is, why did we need to come up with terms for these things? And then, of course, it's just like, that's just kind of human nature and language, right?
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah. And who is successful at doing that? yeah and who is successful at doing that like it's hard enough finding a relationship in this crazy online dating world but like how do people manage like i'm just gonna find a relationship for the winter months like god well makes you wonder if because we developed this kind of term for it that became pretty regularly used that people became more open to the idea it almost gave people like permission to do so yeah i don't know but it's a good question. Yeah, apparently there's the opposite of cuffing as well. What's it called? Uncuffing?
Starting point is 00:25:52 It's like for the summer. Oyster sunscreening. That's what it's called? Really? Yeah. What? Oh, no. That sounds like a sex thing.
Starting point is 00:26:17 It does, doesn't it? Oh, no, sorry. I'm completely wrong. Oystering is a term that encourages people to celebrate their freedom and embrace being single post breakup. Oh, I've tried that a few times and was never successful Hey I did that for five years Every time I was like I'm just going to be single for once Oh will you be my boyfriend? Oh will you be my boyfriend? Please sir be my boyfriend That's all you need to do folks This is coming from a married woman so hot hot dating tips well those are good i feel like i'm curious to
Starting point is 00:26:56 kind of have an ongoing conversation about this because we know there's going to be more that come up there it's always new stuff and it it's always, you know, you youths are so smart with your new terms. I'm just so proud of you. Fangled terms. Well done, guys. But for us oldies, it's bloody confusing. All right? Can't just speak in plain English.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Well, but here's the thing. Once us olds start using it, that's when the youths are like, oh, God, now I've got to come up with something else. It's kind of like when they opened up Facebook to everybody. It's like, oh, grandma's on here now. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I better go somewhere else. What makes me feel really old is like i don't know
Starting point is 00:27:46 what it's like in america at the moment but our like 90s fashion is back like with a vengeance and like the worst of it as well to be fair i'm liking the flares i'm i dig the flares i'm fed up of skinny jeans um but yeah I went shopping the other week and was like it was like being transported back to my youth I was like what's happened I mean for me it's the same and it kind of started when we were over there for the weddings last summer and I was in I want to say it was like H&M and it was mesh and crop tops at them yeah I'm just like where I didn't wear this when I was like young enough to wear these things and where where am I do I have to like go to grandma's rs now to shop where am shop i don't know we're so old yeah so that's true here it's a lot of
Starting point is 00:28:48 i i agree with the flair is kind of the wide leg trousers i'm into them and i have been wearing them for a while but i just i haven't bought clothes that's outside of like leggings and sweatshirts for a while yeah and that's because I don't go to work in an office anymore ah and is that since the pandemic or have you always done that so um it's largely been because of the pandemic. But before the pandemic, there was an opportunity with my work to have a flexible work environment is what it's called. And, you know, depending on what you had going on for the day, you could choose to work at home or somewhere, not the office. And I was someone who opted to be at the office every day because, I don't know, I suck, I guess. But as soon as the pandemic hit and we went virtual, like exclusively, I still got up and got dressed and put on work clothes, like kind of my normal routine, just because I was like, this isn't going to last forever.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And I need to have a little structure. And three years later, almost kind of to the day, been remote. So I gave up. Time wore me down. I gave up. Now you work in your dressing gown. I mean, if I have kind of like a, I'll try to explain this in a way that makes sense. If I have a service, like a mediation with clients and attorneys, or if I, you know, something that seems a little more formal, I will try to, you know, not wear what I'm wearing right now, for example. But even then it's like, I'll just put on a shirt that doesn't look like it's too dirty or like workout gear and if I am writing all day or don't have any meetings or if I'm just meeting with a
Starting point is 00:30:56 parent for kind of an interview for an evaluation I go away casual and no one's complained so far, but I just, it's kind of like I am sitting in my house and I try to make my little office space look kind of, you know, nice and clean and stuff, but it's just like, come on, let's not have too high expectations here. And I'm not going to lie, like it's been rough. I don't love it. I would like to do a little bit more in person stuff. I would like to see my colleagues a little bit more, but I think that I'm kind of in the minority as far as that. I think my majority of my colleagues really do enjoy working from home. And I understand some of them, you know, their commutes were annoying and they have kids. Um, so I get it, but it's just like, there have been times when I don't think I've left my house for days because I know you probably think I have a roaring social life, Gemma. I don't.
Starting point is 00:31:53 What are you doing? So it's not unusual for me to only go four or five days where I haven't been in a car or, you know, left my yard. where I haven't been in a car or, you know, left my yard. And do you have the opportunity to go back to the office if you want? So that's a complicated question that is still not quite clear to myself or my colleagues. Oh, really? The authorities, the powers that be, sort of kind of shut down our space. We are still allowed to go there, but I kind of I don't really ever have a need unless I have to testify in court. And obviously I would be going to the courthouse and in person and stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:38 But that's not often. So and there's like satellite offices we could go to. but again, it's like, why am I doing this? Am I, I'm just going to, I'm just trying to get out of the house then. And then I would maybe try to coordinate with a colleague to meet them. I don't know, but it just, opportunities there, but it's kind of like, just seems kind of like a waste of effort. It just seems kind of like a waste of effort. Yeah, fair. I mean, my work were like, as soon as the restrictions were taken away, they were very much like, everyone needs to be back at the office immediately. But they have now just introduced a hybrid working scheme for office workers. But, a lot of people already contracted to work from home. Like for me, example, I've always worked from home since I started this job. So the pandemic,
Starting point is 00:33:35 to be honest, didn't feel any different to me really. Um, apart from the fact that maybe, um apart from your social life maybe yeah apart from social life um and going to the shops was a bit weirder because we all had to wear masks and stay away from everyone yeah that risk of death yeah that little cheeky little risk of death that they had going around And we could only go out for a walk once a day. I did that anyway because I've got a dog. So it genuinely didn't make any difference. I just ate a lot more takeaways. Was that monitored at all? Like, oh, I saw you twice today.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I think it was somewhere. I think certain counties were more strict than others. But I don't know, to be honest. I think a few people got in trouble for driving, you know, down to the coast or really far away from where they lived. But it's difficult to enforce that kind of rule really isn't it not unless you guys had like people posted outside everyone's doors exactly and like barriers set up at the edge of each town and that would have been a bit fucking ridiculous well and obviously we talked kind of over that time frame and I remember you and keep talking about like things that were
Starting point is 00:35:07 happening there but then also seeing like on the news there was I can't quite remember what it was but it was just like the British people refuse to not go to the pub I won't give up my pub I will not do it I'm going for a pint. Yeah, I think people took the first lockdown quite seriously. And then the second lockdown, a load of shit had come out about certain politicians breaking the rules. Obviously, I don't know if you've heard, but we've got, I think it's, what's it called? Partygate?
Starting point is 00:35:46 Where basically it's now transpired that Boris and all his little Tory minions were having parties on a Friday night when everyone was in lockdown and people weren't allowed to go and see their dying relatives. I had heard about that and was not surprised because we had some similar things here, but yeah, there's been like a big, oh yeah, the rules don't apply to us. Yeah. We're the ones that set the rules, but oh yeah. And then another politician are at the time. Um, God, I'm really hung over. So my brain's not working, but he is the... What was he? Let me Google it quickly.
Starting point is 00:36:30 He's the health secretary, Matt Hancock. Oh, the health secretary. So he was the guy that set the rules for lockdown and made us all impose these restrictions. And he was caught copping off with his secretary and made us all impose these restrictions. And he was caught copping off with his secretary and it was leaked. And at that time, you weren't allowed to see people or touch people that weren't inside your bubble.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So the guy that was making the rules was having an affair. So at that point, everyone was like, fuck off, I'm going to the pub okay so you kind of said it but copping off so they were they were cushioning they were engaged in a passionate snog um and he touched her bum in the video as well. Oh, I do feel like I heard about that. Oh boy. I think that would be like the equivalent of our Dr. Fauci, who was like the CDC kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah, I remember seeing a lot about him. yeah I remember saying about like yeah I mean I'm kind of simplifying his role but it that would have been like him being like yep we need to distance and stay home and wear masks and then basically throwing a giant frat boy kegger at his house and no one's wearing masks and everyone's making out exactly which if you google Dr. Fauci that would be quite hilarious visualization oh he looked like a lovely sweet man yeah like your grandpa it's a grandpa why are you doing this oh bless him yeah so i you know the pandemic really has changed things for me um and I'd be lying if I said if tomorrow the order was everyone go back to the office and work Monday through Friday at the office it wouldn't be like a difficult adjustment for me but I I do think that like for my work in particular
Starting point is 00:38:47 um while it can be done virtually something about staring at a screen for several hours and like talking to people about kind of serious things it's just there's like this exhaustion to it that yeah isn't quite as intense if it were in person. Plus, I feel like I miss things, you know, when I evaluate people in some of their disputes with their co-parent. Yeah, it must be. I do feel like there's something lost. You can't read body language or pick up on cues as well. Mm-hmm. Yep. And I miss seeing my colleagues.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I miss walking down the hall and just saying, oh, man, I have this case that's kind of like I'm struggling with. Can I pick your brain for a second? And it's different than having to like look and see who's green or red or yellow and who might be available to chat with. And so I miss that. Well, and what about you? Well, it didn't affect me.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I like working from home. I love it. Every now and then I have to go up to one of our offices which is fine it's nice to see people nice to have the social interaction but by the end of the day I'm ready to come back to my home office but it definitely affected um like the teams that I manage, a lot of them were office-based and their attitude to working seemed to really change. Like we'd have some people that all of a sudden were then really kicking up a fuss about their commute and,
Starting point is 00:40:19 you know, being really difficult in the working environment and it was sort of like well you you know you you are contracted to work from the office that's what you were hired to do you did that before everything but their attitude changed it was like well I worked from home during the pandemic so why can't I do that now I'm having to spend loads of money driving into the office um so yeah it's kind of difficult to deal with and it's yeah sometimes you have to be like well that was my question and like kind of being in the business of having to maybe manage people do you feel like even though you were working from home kind of before the before times um that was my question because I I took on a supervisory role for a minute, um, after the
Starting point is 00:41:06 pandemic hit and had to kind of navigate all of that along with the people that I managed just in like, how do we do this? What's best practice and stuff. And there was no good answer. And I can understand why someone who like it was in person before we had to do it remotely for a while, but now the expectation is back and it's, it's of the question's kind of like well why we already showed that it was effective you know remotely so why can't that continue and me being kind of stuck on that middle management position being like I don't know I don't have a good answer I just know that I was told I had to bring everyone back yeah that's it and the thing is as well is, you know, it comes down to an element of trust and productivity as well. There's some people on my teams that I would trust to work from home and there's others that I would not.
Starting point is 00:41:54 And I know that they're just going to log on to their PC and not actually do any fucking work. So it's tricky. Managing people is... Yeah, i don't miss it hard but there's some good things that kind of came out of it too i feel like just the way the world changed including you know the study that was in the uk about the four-day work week and you know i do think this is an interesting difference between the uk and the us just generally. Excuse me. I think I caught your cough. Oh, no. But like how the work ethic between the US and the UK and kind of expectations around work and vacation even. You guys have like so much vacation time and I think it's just kind of like a expectation and here it's like
Starting point is 00:42:48 some jobs don't even get that and like going on vacation almost just it's not worth it for people considering kind of work expectations and worth that work ethic yeah so it's not a legal requirement to have a certain amount of holiday leave for the U.S., right? Depending on the job. I mean, a lot of, I'm going to say, kind of the more, like, the retail industry, labor industry, you know, if you, like, work at a grocery store, restaurant, that sort of thing, no. It's more just, like, well, I guess I need need this day off and so then you don't have your shift scheduled that day but like in the I don't know if the right term is like white collar maybe that might not be the right term but like in my role I get a certain amount that increases the longer I But it starts at like 10 days. Really? My God.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I find that mad. Like absolutely mental. Yeah. I mean, coming to visit, you know, we try to come visit for longer than a weekend, obviously. Yeah. Because of the distance and having to take unpaid time those first few years just because I never had enough vacation. God, yeah, it's crazy to me. So assuming they aren't trialing the four-day week in America or are they?
Starting point is 00:44:17 Well, so that article came out about the study in the UK, I don't know, maybe like a couple months ago and how successful it was. And maybe there's some like businesses that were a part of the trial that are going to continue. Just looking at this article, it looks like an overwhelming majority of 61 companies that participated from June to December will keep going with the shorter hours because most employees were stressed and had a better work-life balance. And I think productivity either stayed the same or increased. What I'm not sure about is how they navigated that. Was it just, oh, we're actually going to make everyone work less hours? Are you going to do, oh yeah. So it looks like maybe it was 32 hours instead of 40, which is great because the thing that I don't think I would like is if they took away a day of work and I was
Starting point is 00:45:03 expected to work 10 hours. More hours. You know, to make up for it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I would like is if they took away a day of work and I was expected to work 10 hours. More hours, yeah. To make up for it. Yeah. I don't know if I'd like that. But following this, I did see a couple articles where it was maybe introduced in certain states or maybe even talked about federally about whether this is something worth pursuing. I just, I can't foresee it happening here I mean as I already said before
Starting point is 00:45:26 the kind of work ethic here is not really focused on work-life balance or like meeting the needs of workers so bastards well to be fair my my company would never go for it. Yeah, I was going to ask that. I'd love it. Because I've always thought it's not fair that we work five days a week and get two days off. It should be a little bit more balanced. And people would be so much happier just having that extra day. I mean, obviously, we get a lot of um what we call UK bank holidays where they're like public holidays and it's so much nicer when you just have a three-day weekend because you
Starting point is 00:46:13 you have more time to you know life admin just getting shit done um and yeah well and with the I mean I guess we have kind of like bank holidays. They're not called that, but like those days where they're holidays. And if I wanted to do like normal administrative life stuff, go to the bank or something like that, I couldn't because they're closed. Everything's shut. And so having kind of an extra day that's just like a day off, but are still running so you could do your shopping you could go to the doctor you could go to you know the bank you could have people like workers come to your house and stuff because you have to take time off for that if you need to be home and you
Starting point is 00:46:54 don't work from home um it would be a lot better it would and i mean there's a huge mental health crisis going on at the moment. Say more about that. I hadn't heard about that. No? We're not aware. No, I feel great. Despite what I just said about working from home. Never have any issues.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I'm absolutely fine. Yeah. Well, you never know. It would be nice. I'd enjoy it. I would too. Let's just go ahead and like do that for ourselves i think we can do that right yeah i mean i know people that work a four-day week but as you say they work more hours to make up for the lost day uh to be honest i i probably wouldn't be adverse to that because I kind of work long hours anyway.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Yeah, me too. It'd just be you just get an extra day off, I guess. Yeah, I suppose if it meant I had to do 10. I mean, I can think of a handful of times in the last month that I probably worked 12 hours, you know, just to get stuff done. Oh, we can but dream. Well, on that note, something a little lighthearted. Yeah. What do you got for me, Kathy? I mean, Kate? Yeah. What do you got for me, Kathy? I mean, Kate? You are one of the chosen few, I guess. But I have a feeling now I'm going to hear that more often.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Oh, sorry. Please do not comment Kathy. Don't at me. So I wanted to talk to you about, I saw this article that's kind of like the most, well, it's titled Top 100 Most Beautiful British Slang Words and Phrases. And it was kind of like, oh, I will sit tight, hold on to your pants. And I think the kind of, it was listen check what these mean they they're way better than what you know Americans say so we should adapt these kind of slang words and so I guess I want to know you can tell me what it means whether you use it um tosser yes I use tosser. Yes, I use tosser. Well, not regularly, but yeah, it's a common British slang word. Um, just means like a wanker, a prick, an idiot.
Starting point is 00:49:36 You're such a tosser. So the defined idiot is what it says. And, you know, you said wanker too, which is also on here because that's not one of these. I think it comes from like tossing someone off, you know. Oh, just like wanking, I guess, right? Yeah. So idiot. It sounds, I mean, it's obviously kind of a little more crude, but it also sounds a little bit nicer than just you're such an idiot. Yeah, I guess it does.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah. Okay. Cock up. Yep. So you cocked something up, messed something up. You made a right cock up of that. So you made a small, innocent mistake. But you can also use it in the terms of you cocked that right up so it's not a small innocent mistake it says screw up on here wow you should be fired that was a royal cock up and you said you used that when was the last time you used it uh i've been quite often when i've copped something up at work, really. So usually when you're referring to yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Bloody. All the time. Every day. It's like a... Every day. It's like a... We use it to accentuate things, I guess. I feel like the way I've heard it, like you said, it's like an emphasis.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah. So like bloody good, like very good. But what it says on here is damn. So I guess damn good. Okay. Yeah. yeah yeah i guess in that context is but you could also use it as bloody awful and yeah bloody hell is like it's weird thinking about these terms that we just use every day but seeing it from your perspective is really funny. Yeah, I guess bloody hell is probably the most famous English term, I guess, from an American's perspective.
Starting point is 00:51:55 It is. And poppet. Hello, poppet. Yeah, bloody hell is, I guess, like an exclamation of uh i guess shock or like uh it's kind of like an oh my god bloody hell like it's really hard to describe i think it kind of is multi-purpose and so it surprises me to see like on this thing which doesn't as far as i can tell should not be taken as I think it kind of is multi-purpose. And so it surprises me to see like on this thing, which doesn't, as far as I can tell,
Starting point is 00:52:26 should not be taken as, you know, the foremost expert on the meanings of these things. But damn, I just was like, Oh, that's not what I probably would have said. If someone asked me what bloody is meant to mean,
Starting point is 00:52:38 but no. Blimey. Oh, blimey governor. Yeah. That's a, uh i mean i don't use that one that often is that a little old school i think i would use that if for example i'm in a situation where like in a i don't know a client meeting or somewhere where I can't swear and someone said something, I don't know, shocking or, you know, gave us some data that was crazy. Oh, blimey. Like it's, it's kind of my polite way of being like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:53:19 So this says my goodness. So that seems to track. Yeah. Would it be kind of an alternative? Like, is bloody considered a little too aggro, or would you feel comfortable using that in a client meeting? No, I'd probably use that. It's not considered swearing here, really. Okay. Yeah, I'd say bloody. Gutted.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Gutted. gutted gutted that's I'm really sad or upset about that um devastated maybe devastated yeah um really really gutted that I let my tea go cold gutted for you, mate. So that is not, I don't think I really knew that until, you know, I met Sean and met all you. So that's not something you would use. Mm-mm. And it just like, it makes me think of kind of like a knife to the gut, I guess. Yeah. That's how it's like a punch to the gut maybe.
Starting point is 00:54:32 So I could, it works. I like it. I've always liked gutted, but yeah. Yeah. And that's how I'd use it as if something really bad happened that, you know, genuinely makes you feel that gut-wrenching feeling um that's when i think i'd use it fancy
Starting point is 00:54:53 fancy in what context oh okay yeah yeah okay yeah so is that not something you fancy a coffee no no okay or i fancy that yeah that's just not i don't think that's just probably because i think of you know on netflix every other show is you, based in Britain. And so probably hearing it may be people, but no, it's exclusively, I think. Who is it? British or England. Yeah. I did not know that. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Yeah, we do that all the time. Fancy meeting up. Sod off. Fancy a chat. Sod off. It's like, fuck off. Go away. For the listeners at home, S-O-D, sod, like the grass.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I think that's kind of, it's more of like a mum thing to say, in my opinion. I don't think sort of our generation would say it that much but yeah I can imagine a mum going sod off so I just one time one time Sean's mum called me a a daft b. A dozy bint. Is that a mum thing or was she being super aggro at me? Yeah, I think that's like a northern thing. Yeah, daft, bint. So what does it mean? Do you know? I don't really know what bint means.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Daft is obviously silly. Fucking stupid. I think it's like, you know, it's a kind like insult, if that makes sense. Endearing. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like she's also called me like a dozy cow or something like that. I'm like, you think I'm fat? Okay. Let me just look through these. I know there's some good ones on here. Okay. Zed. The fact that you guys say Zed and we say Z has always just been something that I thought was so weird and interesting and why.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, that's weird, isn't it? I don't know why. Like you have a full word for a letter. Yeah, I don't know. Who came up up with that why is it a thing um margaret thatcher i think yeah probably i saw a thing the other day actually about um how like every word for the alphabet starts with the letter. So like A, B, C, D, you know. But then you get to W. That starts with a D.
Starting point is 00:58:17 It should be wobble you. Oh my God, you're right. Never, ever once have i thought of that that is no i haven't either today i learned i'm today years old when i learned that from now on i will be using wobble you You. Wobble You. Here's, I'll just do a few more. Dodgy? Dodgy, yep. Definitely would use that. It's like, something's a bit wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:59:10 God, it's so hard to explain what these mean because I just use them as everyday language. What does it say there? Suspicious. Yeah, suspicious. Yeah, it looks like a dodgy bloke. Dodgy curry. Wouldn't go on that bridge. It looks a bit dodgy.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Yeah. You know? Yeah. Pants. What, as in like our... Okay, so pants for us is our underwear. Yep. Pants for you is your outerwear. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:42 But pants also could... Like, that's quite pants, I feel like i've heard oh yeah like that's quite that's bad lame that's pants yeah but yeah panties is what this is referring to and i it wasn't my story but it was um a story from the person who whose wedding i went to where i met sean um where it's like you know oh going to put on my Sean where it's like, you know, oh, going to put on my pants and it's like, you're not wearing any right now?
Starting point is 01:00:14 No, I'm going to go put on pants. I'm wearing, you know, whatever. It's like, thanks for sharing, I guess. What? You are going to put on pants? It's like, thanks for sharing, I guess. Yeah. What? You're wearing any pants? Yeah, I use pants all the time. And I know you guys, when you hear me say it, you know what I'm talking to.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yeah. Part of me always wonders if you guys think I'm, you just immediately think my underwear. I mean, I've learned to now know that it's you're talking about your trousers but yeah we say trousers last one and I'm only asking this because I've never once heard this and I'm just curious you have
Starting point is 01:00:57 strawberry creams strawberry creams not the chocolate no not the chocolate no not the chocolate actually I don't know what you're talking about uh breasts no
Starting point is 01:01:16 I've never heard that okay so maybe this is a little outdated I'm gonna use that from now on yeah I uh saw that and I was like hmm you know that seems like maybe it's perhaps a little old old I actually do have one more and I promise this is the last one because I like it. Chav. Oh yeah, chav's a good one. We also have pikey. Do you know what pikey is? I do, but is I don't want to offend anyone but I guess if you're offended then you know
Starting point is 01:02:16 you're a chav so I guess people wear that term proudly yeah maybe I mean for us or for me it was like um like people that wear like tracksuit bottoms and caps and but like come and i i that's how i've always kind of considered chab to be just the equivalent of what we would say in america as white trash yeah i think that's a good description but yeah we also use pikeys which is kind of like the same thing. Oh, that's a bit pikey. That's a bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:10 He's a pikey, isn't he? Can you do some accents, like chav accent, pikey accent? Please. I can try. Yeah. So like, it's funny actually, because they had like a lot of, when I was younger,
Starting point is 01:03:32 considering this is quite a kind of well-off area, southeast of England, you know, it's quite well to do. People usually talk quite posh. And I knew a couple of people when we were sort of in school and growing up that would talk as if they were from like the ends of London and use what we say, a rude boy accent. So it'd be like, oh, I'm really nervous.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I can't do it. Yes, you can. I can. So go like, all right, fam. How you doing, man? Like, where you going tonight? You gonna come around my house and, like, chill? That's the accent.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I love it. Yeah, and that's exactly what I was thinking of. Did you ever watch the show Misfits? Yes, I love M. Yeah, and that's exactly what I was thinking of. Did you ever watch the show Misfits? Yes, I love Misfits. The character Kelly, I think, was kind of the chav character, wasn't she? Yeah, so like big earrings, trackies. Hair really slicked back almost painfully. That was nicknamed a Chelsea facsea facelift oh okay because your hair back's so tight yep
Starting point is 01:04:50 and they i think they referred to her as chab a lot and at one point they were eating you know bacon sandwich which is like a thing and she they're saying she's like is this brunch or like what the fuck is brunch that was a bit northern oh yeah you're chav well and she might have been i don't know like her character might have been but it's obviously i suck at accents too that's also a weird thing isn't it that there's so many different accents in england but we're like i don't know something like half the size of texas but we have like so many different accents in such a small area yeah well and where you're from is kind of i think what you will often hear on like BBC and I think
Starting point is 01:05:49 that's what a lot of people think is like how British people sound you know and it's kind of like the non-dialect dialect I like to compare it to kind of my acts like mine is almost like the lack of accent. I know this isn't right and so don't at me. But like I don't have the lilt. I don't have the southern drawl. I might sound a little bit more northern in some things I say. But generally speaking, if you watch the news, you might hear people who sound or have an accent more like mine too.
Starting point is 01:06:22 who sound or have an accent more like mine too, especially like national news, rather than someone who's super southern or like, oh my God. Ew. So gross. Ew. Ew, David. Ew, David.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Ew. Ew. Where does Moira's voice come from? So actually know this it's not one actually from what i remember just reading about that character she um what is her name uh catherine something she blended a couple accents to make it kind of i think her goal was kind of like this transatlantic accent which was very kind of like the posh accent of I don't know like the 50s I think Catherine Hepburn when and when I think about her and so you know David David that's kind of how that's how she sounds so it's not really any one accent I think just wanted to make her sound really unique and kind of crazy yeah oh it's so good it makes me laugh so I love that show
Starting point is 01:07:31 yeah they might be bringing it back I think I'll save more of those that those lists for other shows because there's a lot of them there's just a lot and it's I just there's so many times when I would hear you say something or Sean say something and I would just say yeah I don't I go I don't know what that is you're gonna go you're gonna have to go ahead and explain that one to me please thank you what I found really interesting as well is as Sean's lived in obviously America for quite some time now, how his words change for things. Like when he started saying trash instead of rubbish. What's the other one?
Starting point is 01:08:16 Gas. Gas, yeah. So I'm going to the gas station. I was like, sorry, what? You're going to the petrol station, actually. Or bathroom, right? Yeah're going to the petrol station, actually. When did you become American? Or bathroom, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:28 That's a big one. I'm sorry. Toilet sounds like you need to, like, why do I need to tell you exactly what I'm doing in there? I'm just going to go to the bathroom and you can, we can leave it at that. Or Lou. I remember when we came over and i was in a restaurant i was like where's the loo and they looked at me like i was fucking crazy sorry was that in like sioux city iowa yeah i think so yeah yeah that doesn't surprise me then i feel like depending on where you go, people might be more familiar with it. Yeah, I just assume it's a term everyone knows, but clearly not.
Starting point is 01:09:11 I don't know what you're talking about. Nope. Tap and faucet was another fun experience for us in our household where I was cooking. And I asked Sean to turn on the faucet because I needed like I was going to carry something over to it. My hands are full. And he kind of just looks at me, looks around, reaches up and turns on the like the oven or the stove hood vent fan. And I'm like, OK, now turn on the faucet. And he's like, that's not the faucet.
Starting point is 01:09:41 The sink. He's like, oh, the tap. Oh, that's not the faucet. The sink. He's like, oh, the tap. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Good times. Good times. Good times. We live and we learn.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Mm-hmm. And, you know, we get through those awkward moments together. Exactly. Well, you want to do one more? Should we wrap up for the day? Yeah, I think we've talked about some shit, haven't we? We did talk some shit today. Some major shit, some minor shit.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Don't add us. Send in your shit-talking requests, if you want, to all of our five listeners. Boop boop. Oh, I do have a question for you. Okay. Hit me. There's been a request for you to tell us what the equivalent to camel toe is
Starting point is 01:10:37 from listeners at home, Levi and Cassie. So we call camel toe wild boar toe no we don't it's just it's just camel toe it's oh it's the same i think if people can create words like breadcrumbing, cuffing, whatever, we can change camel toe. So wild boar toe. Wild boar toe. That's it. Get it going. Let's get it on Urban Dictionary.
Starting point is 01:11:16 We're making a trend. This is a new thing. The reality is some things are the same anyway. We're all the same inside, guys. We all bleed the same blood. And with that, thank you for listening to episode three. Thank you for coming back. We're loving people actually listening to us um see you next time
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