Talking Shit with a Yank & a Brit - 57. I'm Clenched

Episode Date: August 22, 2024

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Look at it. Straight. I mean, it has a nice little bend to it and it's shiny. Didn't, it stayed for a day this week

and then fucked off. Anyway, welcome to We're not doing that today. Shit. I want to talk about our hair some more that is the content people want actually you know i got a diffuser okay and well didn't work very well what do you mean initially but it dropped out really quickly i don't think i put enough product in oh you do need a lot of product like a concerning amount and maybe you don't need

as much because you're not doing like you don't have as tight of curls as i do but like you still do need a fuck ton right like it needs to look like garbage when it's dry and you scrunch that shit out like i haven't gotten all my mouth my very crispy still what have you been up to then anyway okay refresh so talking shit yanking a grit yes this is a podcast thanks for listening god this is a terrible intro, isn't it? It's a podcast where we actually are just chatting with each other about our days and shit going on in our lives and things that grind our buttholes and things that make us happy. And we decided to publish it to the world. So welcome to our conversation. If you haven't worked it out yet i am the yank and she is the

brit sure am yep um so obviously we come from different parts of the world and that's why we thought it would be cool to talk about shit and give our perspective we're actually siblings though we're we haven't we had a parent trap situation where we got separated when did you find out um I was keeping that secret I just found out and I was actually really hoping to have it out with you today I'm mad I just feel like you manipulated me no I just didn't tell you the full truth well and silver lining is is I I think I actually have a mom who likes me now that's the real story your mom I think she likes me so she loves you she fan girls man oh yay finally um yeah we still need to do that some maybe maybe december hope that you know the celebration tomorrow is fun to meet the mum oh should i just come over

for that should i just okay i'm gonna i'm gonna head to the airport but i'll put this on my phone and we'll just carry on that way okay cool cool cool I don't think the phone will be too loud no that'll be fine yeah fine um anyway so yes we talk about things that we want to talk about and we always welcome suggestions and so if you you know if there's something you're curious about hearing our perspectives on because I know we're very interesting and influential you know we'll let you know where you can send that in too but moving forward how was your week my week was fine and dandy um yankee doodle yankee doodle for the for so for life update for the listeners that don't know I have been made redundant from my nine to five

office job fucking rude made redundant is such a weird way to it's like i hate it yeah it's weird can they use another word laid off we got laid off if you google what redundant means it's just the worst thing ever it's just like you are a piece of shit on the bottom of my shoe i hate you you're worthless you are no absolutely not meant for this world fuck off that's how they do it here so thanks yeah but you call it laid off but you guys get way better personal isn't it yes but i think you get more like we could get laid off and it's just like well you don't you also don't get anything so good luck oh really i mean sometimes we can get like

fired and let go but you won't get anything but with redundancy there are they have to if you've been with the company for more than two years then you get yeah severance or redundancy pay as it's called here you're so shit i'm gonna give you a bit of money yeah god sorry go on um so yeah that, that's been a period of transition and transformation, I guess I can say. It's been really stressful. It's obviously been going on for a couple of months now because the way it works in England

is they start a redundancy consultation period where the company gives you like a month or lets you know that the consultation has begun and what they're meant to do is find you other work within the business if they can try and you know keep you if they can who knows if they do that? I don't know. And then at the end of that consultation period, they either tell you whether you're no longer at risk or they give you notice. So they gave me notice. I worked my notice. And my last day was, uh, last Monday, I guess, when this comes out. It was Monday before the one just gone. So, yeah, it's been, it's actually been quite enlightening. I didn't realise how stressed and anxious I have been

constantly for the past six years. And having now not having a job like honestly I feel so happy man I'm like I feel like a weight has been lifted I'm just like I feel like a free bird I don't feel scared I don't feel anxious I don't feel like I've got a million things to do and I'm just like it's great it's fucking brilliant so jealous so jealous but I mean I know and it's it's scary it's frustrating it's annoying it probably also makes you feel like like a piece of shit like redundant does but I think as we were talking about the other day like kind of the silver lining you know and I think it really you can kind of reflect and be

like oh you know what like this probably was not overall the worst thing that's ever happened to me yeah initially it felt like it was but I've worked through that now um and just kind of feel like the world's my oyster now i can do whatever whatever i want coming out of my cage i have to do it just fine but yeah i can you know i've got time to actually sit down and consider what i'm gonna do and it's very nice very freeing i like it very much yes please well i'm happy to hear that. I'm not happy that you had to go through that experience, but I'm happy that like where you're at now is where you're at.

And I'm looking forward to kind of peering and watching and supporting you and what you do next. You know, on this podcast and off, I'm your your biggest fan and I will fight anyone who says they're your biggest fan oh you hear that mom you don't have many to fight I'm just kidding but um no I mean yeah I we've obviously kind of been talking about this since you learned about this and um it sucks but i think hey their loss yeah well obviously that but i also think you know you've been talking about things you've been wanting to do kind of with your life and career goals and stuff and now's the time now's the time the universe has given me a big old kick up the butt

so what did you do this week then nothing yes right you gotta take that time too well i did like i did a load of cleaning yesterday which was fine um i went and spoke to a potential well like a drama club about teaching there nice went and saw their little performance last night for the end of their summer club so yeah I'm sort of making moves but also doing fuck all at the same time you know it's nice just going with the flow no pressure

no pressure just hang with me and my weather what have you been doing well same old same I, you know, as you have experience with me, I'm usually like nothing. I worked and sat on my couch and thought about my shitty life. No, just kidding. But you know, I am, I don't do a ton all the time, but this past week actually did a little bit more than usual, which was kind of exciting. I ended up going to a TEDx talk. I mean, I think people know what a TED talk is, but they also have like TEDx and like TED conference. There's like a lot of different

sub genres. This one was TEDx here in town, and it was called Confluence Where Ideas Meet Action and it was my first one it was really interesting um not what I envisioned but overall I really enjoyed it I'd like to go to more but it had like one two three four six different speakers about like a variety of topics there was not like a single theme okay um and a couple performances and it was just pretty interesting um and seeing being in person and seeing kind of like the whole we're filming it someone might need to come out and do it another bit again or they if they want to take another bit again they'll just stop and kind of repeat it and oh so you saw behind the curtain yeah yeah and it was more scripted than I thought it would be.

But I guess having watched some clips of TED Talks, like I suppose those are scripted too, right? Like people know what they're going to say. But some of it I was like, this literally feels like it's someone on stage reading from like, like doing a reading of a play they're going to be in, you know? And not a big deal because it was still interesting, but I just was surprised about that. Um, but that was fun. And

then, you know, this, we've talked about the state fair here, um, and that is coming up soon. Yep. And so we got, my friend and I got invited to the taste of the fair which is like a pre-fair fundraiser where people can go and it's like all-inclusive food and drink and you can try some of the new fair food because that's always a good deal some of the staples there's like an auction there's music um you get to go into the fairgrounds it's only like a specific section but and it was interesting because the only time I've ever been to the fair was when there's like millions and millions the whole world's there so um being there when there's maybe like 200 people there was quite a bit different yeah so this was like a fair hors d'oeuvre yes um it was great though I got to see a live auction where people spent

like eleven thousand dollars on a, just an old fair bench. All right. And the group, they do the whole. Yep. And it's just like, that's cool. But also there's starving kids out there. So, but it was for like, it was for a fundraiser too. So it's like, I was, people were, I think, just in the spirit of like, well, I'm going to donate and I guess I get a thing. So like some of the other stuff was. A really premium parking spot that I think went for three thousand dollars and going down the slide with Fairbairn and Fairchild, which are these two mascot like chipmunk guys. All right. That one went for, I think, $3,000. Some camping spots between $2,000 and $4,000, you know. And I just was like, oh, my God.

What did you bid on? Nothing. Because there was no way I would have been like $20 for this. And people are going to be like $7 million. But tried some interesting food let's see i had like a focaccia potato chip ice cream sandwich which actually was really good uh cheese curd taco um just a lot of good stuff it It was good. I had fun. Yeah. Great. That was my week. After a bit of a technical difficulty, we're back.

Anyway, that was my week. And we're back. Well, that's lovely for you. And I hope the, when is the actual fair? Plug it. I think it starts on Thursday this coming week. The day we air. The day this episode should air

is when the fair starts. Great. And it goes through Labor Day. When the fuck's Labor Day? September 2nd. Fucking hell, that's a long fair. Yeah, two weeks. I mean, it's a big fucking deal.

Man, we have fairs here and there a day. Yeah, I'd say like some fairs generally like are a day or like a weekend. But like the state fair versus just a fun little pop-up fair versus a county fair, you know, it's all different. Like the Iowa State Fair, I think, is just wrapping. It tries to be like Minnesota, but it can't quite get there. But I think it's getting better or bigger.

I don't know. But yeah, it's a big deal. It's a great Minnesota get-together. It's a pretty big deal. Yeah. And one day you will come with me and be shocked and amazed. Just my mind blown. Like, this is not a little village fair that we have in our little English villagers.

Nope. Which I think you'd be shocked at how shit they are. villagers nope which i think you'd be shocked at how shit they are i think it's probably just differences in how we define fairs right i suppose so i mean we also have like the other kind of fair which is like the it's like a theme park that comes on the backup truck and they set up for a couple of weeks and then fuck off again. I think people probably can refer to those as fairs, but I think we would call those carnivals. Two.

And we call carnivals more of like a street party. You know? See, still learning things about each other. On that subject, I've got some names, which I think, well, they're American names that wouldn't be seen dead here. Okay. Yeah. Not in a horrible way. Just I've never met or heard of any british person being called these names okay i think we should discuss first one chad oh absolutely no that is not only

full-on an american name but it also is like um kind of like karen but for douchey men. Oh, is it? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Like, stop being such a fucking Chad. I do. I have met a couple Chads, and I can't say all of them were nice. Some of them are lovely people, but yes.

It gives me the impression of, like, jock arsehole yeah yeah you know like really good looking absolute cock yep yeah cool that's that i'd say that's right on not that every chat is like that but yeah i'm sure then i'm sure there is a nice chat but if you've got that name sorry yeah um britney obviously we know britney spears and my friend britney and your friend britney but i've never heard of anyone in england being called britney it that is a very american name and i think it's a very kind of 80s 90s name there's not a lot of young britneys anymore that i can recall britney no no it's yeah um i would agree that is a that is an american name okay next one is payton okay and now we're starting entering the territory of the uh i would want to say like the late 2000s genre of payton's

want to say like the late 2000s genre of Peyton's, Layton, Jaden, Brayden, Caden. Yeah, I was going to say Clayton, Brayden. Yeah. I also can't say, you can't say Peyton with an English accent. Peyton. Just sounds terrible. So it sounds nicer. It sounds nicer when you say it like that, but when people are like Peyton. Peyton, Peyton.

Fetch my shotgun. Yeah. Tucker. My cousin's name is Tucker. Okay. I won't say what I was going to say then. I don't think he listens. If he is.

Hi, buddy. But yeah, he's like one of the only tuckers that i've i know i think there's been like tuckers i think i've met a dog named tucker it does sound like a dog name a book tuck everlasting i don't know if his name was yeah but yep that is has the unfortunate relationship of rhyming with fucker, too. It does, yeah. Yeah. Tucker the fucker. Yeah.

That's unfortunate, isn't it? It just makes me think of like a feral child running around in dungarees. You know, Tucker, again, if you're listening, is that a fair characterization of you as a kid? I mean, I also feel like I was probably a feral child for a little while so no hate there but yes i see what you mean like cletus names his child tucker exactly yeah cletus um this one to be fair i do know someone with this name but i do think it's in the main. Virginia. Yeah, I mean, Virginia, name of a state.

Yes, Virginia. Does that come from like Virgin Mary? Is that where it derived? Or like was someone's wife named Virginia? I mean, the first person had to be named Virginia somehow. It's very close to vagina. Yeah. Was there like a Queen Virginia? I don't think so.

We got Victoria. I don't know. I mean, maybe like France. Oh yeah. Yeah, maybe European. I feel like it's related to Virgin Mary or virginal though. Probably, yeah. It's Christian origin, I would assume. Yeah, for sure.

Hunter. Yep. You know know i've never i don't know if i know any hunters i think i like i've always appreciated that name particularly when it's a girl that's kind of cool but also hunter wellington boots which comes from england that's true yeah that's why we don't call childs. Yeah, we don't name children after our boots. Anderson. That's a last name. That is, I've never heard of of no one with a first name okay no

if but yeah i could see clearly but i can't give you an example i mean because it kind of is derived from like you know how it's like anders son thor's son john son so someone named anders which which I think is Scandinavian. And I think there's an actor named Anders who was on like that show about like co-workers. I can't, it's not Office Space, but, or The Office, but something in its comedy. Anyway, but yeah, I've never met anyone or heard of anyone with the first name Anderson. Scrap that one then. No, it's still legitimate just because I don't know someone

doesn't mean they don't exist. You know everyone in America. It's true I do. Yeah. You're right. I always said that about you. Braxton. Oh. I just threw up in her mouth a little bit there. It's fine. It's just still evoking like

Brayden. like the x names when people started using x and like jackson and paxton and i i there's someone from my hometown with that name and so i don't want to be too mean about it but yeah it's not it's an american name i actually quite like the name jackson i don't think with an x no not with an x no Jackson's a fine name but like when I started seeing people the ck names is being replaced with an x I don't like it when people do that like just start spelling normal names weirdly there's no need for it you know yeah what are you doing just trying to give your child trauma? Yeah. Have them constantly have to, I mean, you know what, do what you want.

But also it's like kids don't get to pick their names. So maybe just like consider that a little bit, you know. I saw a thing the other day that was like, what's like a word that isn't a name, but could be a really nice name. And they were like, I think chlamydia. Yeah, it's from waiting. And it's like chlamydia. I think I would name my really nice name. And they were like, I think chlamydia. Yeah, it's from waiting. And it's like chlamydia. I think I would name my daughter that name. Yep.

Okay, a couple more for you. Hank. Hank Hill. Hank Hill. I actually do know someone called Hank. I know a dog named Hankank i think that is a cool dog name actually yeah speaking of speaking of the dog has just joined us hello hi is that eric that's eric yeah eric hi eric um i know someone whose name is actually henry but goes by hank

now that i think about it yeah maybe it's the same for this person as well. Don't know, to be honest. I'll find out then. Okay, final American name is Colt. Colt 45. Yep. We love people who know, again,

if people are listening, who I think might be listening who know people or are related to people with names people yeah i mean no offense weston remington colt i just western it's very it's very it evokes country it evokes hillbilly it evokes conservative but yeah yeah so uh we would not name our children those names here um and i just think what are some british names fat jemma has come over here i know but I think that's a very British name. I've made it across the pond. Yeah. What about like, there's classic British names, which aren't really used anymore, which I bet no one in America has.

Let me have a look. I mean I think if someone uses it as because they're like a they're a big British fan they just aren't obsessed with England or a book with that person's name in it yeah so like Edith yeah I mean old lady name

like I don't think I've met anyone named Edith in my life but if they were if I did it's gonna be an old lady I saw a really good list the other day I don't know that's gone Clementine yeah I think some of the older names like that are coming back like Eleanor Gertrude Gertrude, Edmund Oh yeah Nope, don't know any Edmunds Edwin Edgar I do like the name Edgar actually Yeah, that's quite nice actually

Fabian Okay Fabian okay Tabitha quite a few no I don't it was a cat too yeah there's loads

that's a real British name and i don't know if i've come across any american pipas doesn't mean they don't exist but when i hear the name pipa poppy i immediately think brits what about archibald i mean yeah archibald nestingworth Coxwold the third You know Geneva You know what I wouldn't have thought of that As being traditionally British But sure

I just think the Geneva convention though Oh yeah Well it's Geneva Geneva There's an R in there Are you trying to say Guinevere Well, it's Genevra. Genevra. There's an R in there? Yeah. Are you trying to say Guinevere?

No. Genevra? It's G-U-I-N-E-V-E-R-E. Spell that again. G-U-I-N-E-V-E-R-E Spell that again G-U-I-N E-V-E-R-E E-V-E-R-E Guinevere I feel like that is

Okay so maybe you just pronounce it Differently to us then G-U-I-N-E-V-e-r-e that's fucking guinevere gemma as in guinevere of the knights of the round table to be fair i can't be trusted because when i read harry potter before the films came out i thought hermione was like himeone yeah i get it you don't hear a name pronounced or a word pronounced you figure it out and then you learn you're wrong and it's embarrassing but I'm pretty sure that's Guinevere fine Guinevere it is you can cut this out the shame shame shame yeah that's a very old school name

I don't think people are using Guinevere anymore because it's like kind of a big like Shame. Shame. Yeah, that's a very old school name. I don't think people are using Guinevere anymore because it's like kind of a big, like, what are you trying to say? Way to make me live up to a name I can't live up to. Come on. Just call me fucking princess. Banana hammock. Butt Worthington. Did you say banana hammock okay we've both talked about being child free and that will be true for our entire lives but

if you were to have a child what are some of your favorite names i always said before i made the decision not to have kids that if I had a boy, I would call it Ted. As in Theodore? No, just Ted. It'd just be Ted? Because my grandad was called Ted, but I never met him. He was Edward, but everyone called him Ted.

So I thought it'd be nice to name a child that name because he died when my dad was four it's a good name and I like the different iterations of it Teddy I always quite liked Bobby as well

and that could be for a girl or a boy. Yeah. I think that's cute. Yeah. I can't really think of any girls' names. I always like the kind of boy-girl names like Taylor. Yeah. That sort of thing.

Yeah. That's cool. And I know there's names that I was like, oh, I would totally name my kid that. And I can't think of any right now. So I'll have to share that on another episode when it occurs to me. Stay tuned. Yep. Yeah.

I know someone called Jamie, a girl called Jamie. Yes. And I was like, oh, that's a cool name. Yeah. Yeah. It's when you start getting into the weird different spellings again, though. Like when there's Ashley, A-S-H-l-e-i-g-h yeah or a-s-h-l-e-e ashley ashley just making sure that everyone knows how to pronounce it yeah let's make it

vitally clear yeah well you know bring bring it names back bring the weird ones back like um there's i'm looking at because i looked up guinevere there's one like one fat and it looks very welsh it's like g-w-e-n-h-y-f-a-c-h that's just fuck some people up when they see names the ones that fuck me up are the irish names like neve how do you spell that well that's a good question fuck no uh there's one that always and i think it's pronounced siobhan but the spelling is very yes or the actress sirsha how she's how it's actually spelled is very confusing i couldn't say that out loud no i had to wait until someone told me what it was yes um so neve is n-i-a-m-h

n-i-o so niyama oh yes i. Okay. And what about this other one that's like A-O-I-F-E? And I had to look that one up when I came across it for the first time. It's pronounced Aoife. Aoife. But it's A-O-I-F-E. Aoife. It's like Aoife O'Sullivan. Yes. it's like it's like keifer o'sullivan yes here's one that's c-a-o-i-m-h-e how do you think that's pronounced so what was it again c-a-o yep i-m-h-e

well if it's anything like neve, it would be like Keeve. Kweeva. Kweeva. Yeah. Isn't it love? Yep. Yep. Just made me think of queefing.

Yep. You know, Gaelic is such a beautiful language. It is, yeah. Sorry, we have the brains of 14-year- 14 year old boys sorry we are so uncultured okay I think we can move on from this topic before we offend our listeners in some way

if any of you do have those names they are beautiful and you are a wonderful person we are just horrible yep what else were we going to talk about today i don't know if we're going um oh i came across onto the upsetting and infuriating portion oh yeah uh um or a podcast i came across there someone sent me just a Instagram post that the question was

asked, if you used to be anti-abortion and now you're in favor of reproductive freedom, what changed your mind? And I looked at the comments and some things I just, it was, first of all, I was happy to hear that like there are people out there whose minds can be changed. Yeah, that's nice to know. As we've talked about in the past, that is very rare anymore. And some people talked about, just being in labor and delivery or nurses and seeing how abortion healthcare isn't just about quote unquote killing babies. It's about of our like people who are alive in the world right um and one was kind of a point i've tried to make to people when talking about either

this issue or the differences between you know government and and republicans and liberals is this person wrote i'm pro-life but but vote pro-choice because the government has no business telling victims what they should do with their bodies. And too many legislatures have proven that they don't know when an abortion is medically necessary to save the mother's life. And you might not know this because some of it's kind of nuanced, but a big feature of conservatism and republicanism is small government, right? Like government shouldn't be able to like kind of make all these decisions and laws and stuff that impact people's lives. But when they say government, they mean the feds. So then it's kind of like, well, then it should be up to the states, which is still

government. And that's why it's so frustrating to me because this issue of Roe v. Wade and then when they overturned it is, as we talked about before, it's now leaving it up to the states to make laws about it. Roe v. Wade made it so that there could be no laws that restricted abortion, right? So in a way, it was doing what generally conservatives think about government being involved in people's lives, but they also are pro-life. So therefore, their opinions matter more. And I just like that this person kind of was saying, I believe in, you know, life begins at conception, but I'm not a hypocrite. Yeah.

at conception, but I'm not a hypocrite. Yeah. And then also this other one before I kind of segue into our next topic is the idea that you can't ethically compel someone to donate an organ. You can't ethically compel someone to save someone's life using their body. So even if fetuses are people, you can't ethically compel someone to carry one. Yeah. That's a great way of looking at it. And really, anti-abortion is anti-woman. Yep. In an essence, yeah. Yeah. So I thought it would be fun to talk about the Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974. Just briefly. Okay. Strap in, guys. Yeah. I'm not going to actually go into great detail about it, but this is a BuzzFeed post titled 23 Shocking Stories and Confessions About What American Women's Lives Were Like Before the Women's Rights Movement, which I think kind of kicked off with the Equal Credit Act of 1974.

Just 50 years ago, women gained the right to open credit cards in their own names thanks to the equal credit opportunity. That's mad, isn't it? I know. 74. That's 13 years before I was born. It's crazy. So a lot of the posts are about my mom was a single mother and had enough money to buy her own house and no bank would give her a loan and her dad needed to co-sign. And my mom needed a hysterectomy and the doctor faked permission from her estranged husband who was an alcoholic abusive asshole so that she could get it. Because even still today, doctors will say, you can't get your tubes tied. You can't get a hysterectomy unless your husband consents. And even if you have a consenting husband, some doctors will say, but what about your hypothetical potential future husbands?

Because this might not last forever or he might die. And then when you get remarried, that husband might have some feelings about this. So they just make up people who have more autonomy over a woman. Over your own body. Yes. That's infuriating. Another post was, my husband and I bought our first house in 72, but my income couldn't be included on the mortgage application in 71 because I could horror get pregnant wow yep yep wow wow wow okay surely it still counts like I mean because it's like well

if she gets pregnant she's not going to work anymore and then that income isn't going to exist so we can't give you a loan based on that dual income because you might not have it. And it's also like, well, we already know I can't get pregnant. So you can. So dumb. My mother, 47 at the time, got breast cancer in the late 1960s. At that time, it was required that my father had to sign off on any surgery she needed her doctors wanted to do a procedure to see if the cancer had spread he said no what he had been a manipulative mean nasty drunk for many years that was the last straw for my mother she filed for divorce and then he committed suicide so like really kind of some trauma there with that family

but he also was like nah you can't you can't help with her cancer sorry that's mad also it would be even harder back then like now we have mobile phones and easy ways of communicating but then you'd have to walk all the way home go to a pay phone call them at work or at home and hope they're in and get them to come down and sign some papers. Like. I actually wonder if perhaps husbands were attending those appointments with the wives. They probably had to be chaperoned. Yeah. Well,

they had to drive them there. Yeah. That's true. Good. Yeah. Okay. One more. Let me find a good one.

Hmm. Hmm. Hmm good one. Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. I don't, I mean, all of these really suck and they're horrible. Okay, just a simple one. I had to have a mail cosigner just for a checking account pre-1974. Ridiculous. Utter madness. I remember my nan telling me stuff as well. It was like

just stuff like that. My grandad had to co-sign everything and you don't know anything on your own. And if you didn't have a husband then it had to be your dad. Or maybe your brother. God. Yeah. I've just started watching Handmaid's Tale again actually. And then it had to be your dad or maybe your brother.

Yeah. I've just started watching Handmaid's Tale again, actually. I just wanted a reminder of what we're hurtling for as a society. Well, Alan hasn't seen it. So I was like, oh, you've got to watch it. You need to see what we're heading towards. I suppose it's like a good way to prep yeah exactly this is what i need to do yeah if this is this is how we end up you need to be like this lone man and save me please you'd get me out just studying yeah but man it's heavy shit i've forgotten how um

how much of a tough watch it is. Like it's just constant sort of tension and anxiety the whole way through and just like, oh my God, this is so fucking awful. I hate it. I've never, have you ever tried to read the book or have you read the book? No, I haven't actually. Me neither. I wonder if it's better or equally as intense. See, like I always envisioned it being kind of dry,

but I also didn't know much about it until the show came out. So maybe I should read it. Yeah. I mean, often the books are better than TV shows or films. So I often don't feel that way. Really? I mean, there are certain things like if I'm really into the book. Yes.

But there are certain things where I'm just like I'm just happy to be here watching it visualized I get really annoyed as you know with Harry Potter we discuss that but you loved Harry Potter the books right yeah and so I get that seeing in film can be a simultaneously really exciting but also frustrating thing given how much they change um but i mean if it was just a book you read that you were kind of like yeah it was fine book and now they made a new movie it's kind of like oh cool you know like i i think it depends on how much of an attachment you have to the book right it just annoys me when they make like little changes like um is it the girl on the train is that what it's called yeah there is a book called that great book and it's set in london

is that the one with emily yeah blunt yeah okay and so this is just like a a creative decision i don't know why they did it because the book is set in london and the whole point is she's on a train and like you'll know when you go into london on the train you go past all the terrace houses and you can look in the windows. That's what it is. So they cast a British actress, but then decided to just set it in America. And I was like, what? Why?

And it wasn't a very, like, kind of countryside-y to a point. It was like, she's not seen in anybody's house. No. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, I just thought, what a weird decision to make like obviously just trying to appeal to the american market i guess but americans love british exactly why did they decide that i don't know yeah twilight as well this this does grind my butthole actually a lot i'm clenched um twilight as well i loved the books and i know

they're a bit gay you loved the books love the books they're literally the worst i was so invested in edward and bella's love okay and you know who recommended me to read them my granddad he was like these are great books and i used usually read them he didn't sound like that i don't know i'm doing that voice um that's actually kind of cute yeah i got really into them and then like i really liked bella as a character and then kristen stewart just came and shat all over it and i was just like what are you doing so you read the books before the movies came out okay i read them i think the third one had gotten out oh really and it was like i read them almost as a joke yeah me and lauren were like let's read these books and circle all of the shitty writing and typos and like inconsistencies so you were

probably a bit older as well then yes i was in college yeah yeah but we also enjoyed the movies because like they're just they're so bad they're good you know and it also automatically depict the cool shit that like vampires can do yeah i was like i so want to be a vampire and then in the books they're just in the films rather it's just like these are just people with whiter skin. Sparkly white skin. Yeah. I, and I think because of how I did it, I inserted how Kristen Stewart portrayed Bella. Yeah. That's how I saw it in the books instead of the other way around. And I wonder if I would have felt differently if I'd switched it.

That's the big thing with it, isn't it? If you've read a book prior to the film or show coming out you build a picture of what that character looks like the mannerisms and then an actress could come along and be completely the opposite of what you've imagined yeah agreed yep i'm trying to think if I so loved a book that it was in the movie or tv show just fucking ruined it and I can't think of one but one of my favorite books which is also a movie is Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil and it is kind of an old book but it's it's like non-fiction um but they made the movie was not like a documentary it had like kevin spacey john cusack um some other kind of semi-famous people but i thought the movie was fucking great but i also

was like horny for john cusack so yeah yeah yeah yeah but um good good book um yeah i mean sometimes they do it like gone girl was good the movie yeah i thought that was very similar to the book yes did you see any of the other movies by that author like sharp objects or whatever no i haven't actually have i and i think um amy adams is it might be sharp objects i don't remember but i liked those books and i thought you know the thing with thrillers too though is it's kind of like they're never going to be award-winning whatever that's it i think it's different to like fantasy and stuff isn't it yeah um one of my favorite books is shantaram yeah you told me that and i keep meaning to read it it's

really good did you like the show? I haven't watched it you refuse I'm nervous and it's also on Apple TV and who the fuck has Apple TV not me well we tried oh we did try that yeah yeah yeah you need to get a VPN so you can use my login don't say that they'll hear us

cut it out but no I was going to sign up for a free trial just so I could binge it. But I still haven't done it and I keep forgetting about it. But to be honest, the reviews weren't great. So I was like, maybe I shouldn't. I'll watch it. Yeah. And let you know.

Okay. But you've not read the book. I'll read the book. I'll read the book first and then watch the show. Let me know what you think. I can't believe that it's been out long enough. I can't believe it's not on some other platform by now. I know.

Do you hear that? Apple, get, get it together. Put it on Netflix. Yeah, I've got that. I've got all the others.

Actually got all the others. I've got prime. I've got now I've got Netflix. Put it on one of them yeah disney yeah come on um would you like to discuss whether someone is an arsehole you know i would baby I'm I have to say when you said you're clenched earlier when referring to being I loved

it and I think that's our new catchphrase anytime we're I'm clenched and it could be referring to either part of our nether regions yeah one of them is clenched right now this episode is called the clenching the clenched right now. This episode is called The Clenching.

The Clenching. The Clenching. Right. Am I the arsehole for asking someone to stop coming to my house uninvited? No. No. Okay. Good to see you. Good tovited. No.

Okay. Good to see you. Good to see you. Bye. See you next week. Not even a... Okay. Sorry.

I'll let you finish. Could you please? But seriously. Right. My wife gave her brother a key to our house. Oh, no. Okay. Now it just muddied the waters.

I routinely go to my house on my lunch break and many times have found my brother-in-law at my house uninvited. No one else is home, but he comes to my house and eats my food for lunch. A couple of weeks ago, I had a 14-hour day at work. A Thursday, and I had to be in the field for a construction project. On Friday, I was struggling at the office and decided to call it a day so I could go home and rest. When I arrived home, there was my brother-in-law. I was exhausted and really not in the mood for a guest.

Later that day, I texted and told him that I wasn't comfortable with his unannounced visits and asked him not to do it anymore. I told him he was welcome at my house, but I just wanted to know when he would be there, as I need, and that I need boundaries. He seemed cordial with his text response, but I have caused a civil war. My wife is mad at me,

and so is her other siblings and parents. They said that I'm weird and I don't understand how siblings work. In my opinion, it's weird and rude to act like one has carte carte blanche carte blanche yeah just like unfettered access yeah uh carte blanche to someone else's house and food so am i the arsehole okay like that's what i meant by muddying the waters though because the issue here is we have

two people who equally like have this house and kind of are allowed to have the house the way they want but you have to consider the other person do you remember the one where the girl got the dog and her boyfriend's like i don't fucking want a dog yeah like it's not just your place you know and so giving your brother a key is fine but if your partner is like okay you know I'm fine with that but I've noticed that I will come home and no one's here and he's just here eating our food and like I I guess I'm curious when you gave your brother the key was it to just give him carte blanche access to her house? Because I actually don't know how I feel about that. Personally, I think he probably should have talked to his wife first

and it should have been maybe her responsibility to talk to the brother and set that boundary because she's the one who gave him the key. But no, I think the fact that the family thinks he's weird and don't know how siblings work. No, that's your family and the lack of boundaries there. and don't know how siblings work um no that's your family and the lack of boundaries there that doesn't mean that's everyone's family now my brother lives forever away he's not going to just show up but if he lived in the same town as me and i gave him a key and sean wasn't cool with him just showing up whenever he wanted whether we're

home then that would be but i also don't know if my brother would necessarily do that and if he did like i'd also just be like you can come over but like if you're gonna maybe shoot us a text i don't know like i think it's fucking weird bang out of order you give someone a key for like emergencies you know it's it's not just an open door policy it's rude you don't just show up at people's houses unannounced unless everyone is truly like come over whenever, don't care if you want to come over when we're not home it's fine

help yourself that has to be clearly stated I would be fuming if I come back from work or on a lunch break and there was just someone in my house even if it was my my own brother or whatever i'd just be like you couldn't let me know i mean like yeah just yeah as you say a text would be fine but don't show up unannounced no it has to be specifically stated

further to be that it can't just be assumed. Like, it's not a given that way. What the given is is that you have a key, which means that if we need you to come over and do a thing, you don't have to – we don't have to leave a key out. But, like, the expectation that you still are letting us know when you're coming over or knocking on the door when you arrive, like, is there. It's not your house, mate. Fuck off. Correct. Yes. Not the asshole.

What did the comments say? Not the asshole. This person said, if someone was coming into my house when I wasn't home, they would 100% lose their key privileges. Absolutely no way I would tolerate that. The first time I came home and found he'd let himself in without asking i would have gone ballistic and taken the key off him next person said i agree a key isn't an open invitation to use your house as your own it's a they trust you if you were ever to need it yep um yeah much much the same don't you think with this family though based on their reaction

that is not what a key means to them a key means you get carte blanche access to our house it would seem so yeah yes but then i guess some families are like that because you get like you hear about people's parents just showing up unannounced for dinner and stuff like that would also fuck me off i'd be like why are you here yeah but if it's just you then fine right yeah but it's not no exactly but maybe his wife has also said to him here's a key come over whenever you want that's what i mean is like that is kind of the family because if the parents and other siblings think he's weird for putting setting that limitation that makes me think that this is something that family does but

they are the weird ones yeah also people say that but they don't mean it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's just polite to be like, yeah, come over whenever you want, but don't actually come over whenever you want. But let us know and make it when we're here. Yeah. Or I'll turn the lights off. This key is in case we need you. Yes. Like the key is for go check on our pets or can you go pick up their package that's outside you know or can

you make sure our house isn't on fire exactly all right let's see if there's any controversial ones i'm clenched i'm just so clenched. No, I mean, even these ones are just... Yeah, everyone's just like, no. You did say it was pretty clear cut. This isn't how siblings work. See? Weird.

They're weird. You're weird. Bye. Assholes. Wow. On that note I'm just coming around is that alright?

I wasn't going to tell you but now that we're here he's outside under the rock don't tell people that just put it under a different rock it's fine no we just leave the door unlocked so come on in come on down I'm going to let your cats out as well great No, we just leave the door unlocked. So come on in. Come on down. Yep.

Cool. I'm going to let your cats out as well. Just if you want to go outside. Lucy will flourish. She's screaming her head off right now. And I just know it's because she wants to go outside and fall down the steps. That's what she wants. She told me actually last time I was over. She was like, look, I just I know I'm going to fall down the stairs, but I need to be free.

I need to fly. Even though I'm a literal potato with arthritis and I'm not flying anywhere, nor is any big bird picking me up because I'm so big. And then she was like, oh, my banana toy. Yep, let me lick it until it disintegrates. I got her a new one, too. Well, that was fun. Good talk today. Good chat.

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