Talking Shit with a Yank & a Brit - 61. Diddy Do It?

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

We took a break but we're baaaaaack!! This week we're talking about the Diddy debacle, Amendments to the Constitution that didnt pass and a sort of AITA.Get in touch with us at @TSYBPOD on social or email in your stories, questions or dilemmas to [e-mail]

it's been a while i just checked it's been since september 11th was our last episode that was published which means that we recorded sometime before that. Wow, yeah. That's been a while. It's been a month plus a few. I forgot what you look like and smell like. I forgot what you look like. I look the same. So do I. so do i you look right now like someone who does spoken word poetry at a coffee shop

and like snaps to clap like very beatnik cool it's the glasses and blackish turtleneck yeah yeah it is it is a black towel it's quite itchy actually unacceptable it is what it is i'm so uncomfortable it is what it is there's nothing i can do about it i can't change i can't not wear itchy clothes i have to suffer yes exactly I definitely don't have a wardrobe full of clothes over there that's it that's all you wear

well for the listeners out there apologies for the little break that we had I am recording I am coming to you from a new property, a new location me too

looks the same to me I just took this one room out of my house and put it somewhere else like in The Sims where you can just copy a room and drop it yeah, I'm in The Sims apparently we all are we're in a simulation absolutely, this is Matrix and drop it. Yeah. Yep, I'm in The Sims.

Apparently we all are. We're in a simulation. Absolutely, this is Matrix. I believe it. Well, yeah, so as you were saying, it's been a minute. You're in a new property. You've had a lot of change and busyness going on,

been really kind of hustling. And I think if anything, this break from each other has shown what a real piece of shit I am and what a hard worker you are. Why? Because as we said before we started recording, it's like, I haven't done anything today for this. And you're like, well, I've got my paper here of all all of the content i've developed which i've put together laminated and uh put in alphabetical order no i haven't done that i saved a couple of shit that we might talk about and i'm like oh i just wanted to play video games in my basement and i'm very busy socially.

So sorry. That's fine. Don't you worry. No dramas. And it's good to be back talking shit with you. Likewise. And boy, do we have some stuff to talk shit about today. Oh boy, we are going to talk some shit about all kinds of shit.

Stuff and things that really is shit worthy. Really is. I mean, coming up, we're going to touch on what's going on with Diddy. I've got an interesting story for you about... God, I've forgotten already. Hold on. Other things. We have got other things. We've got other things we're going to talk about and it's going to be really fun. It's going to be

a journey and you're going to be like, oh my god, I missed listening to that yank and that Brit talking shit. Which is what our podcast is, by the way. That's our podcast. That's what we do. We pick up a subject and we talk about it. Very accurately and matter-of-factly. We talk about it.

Very accurately and matter-of-factly. Highly researched, highly produced, put together. We're just the ultimate professionals in this. Yeah, it's true. That's how we roll. Girl bossing the podcast world. You could say. Way to bring that back. I haven't heard that in a while. Why can't it just be bossing?

Why does it have to be girlbossing? I think because boss often connotes men. Yeah, that is often the case. As we all know yeah so i am just like right off the bat moving into the substance of today like what is your understanding about what's going on with Diddy, a.k.a. Puff Daddy, a.k.a. P. Diddy, a.k.a.

Duddy, f.k.a. Sean Combs. The man of many names. There seems to be a reason for it. Indeed. I've known him for a very long Indeed. So, I mean, obviously I've seen a lot about what's happening, but equally at the same time, haven't bothered to really read anything in much detail. But But what I know is that he's been arrested and charged for alleged rape, sex trafficking and domestic violence.

I saw a video of him abusing his ex, Cassie, who was, I think, the first woman to come forward and um make these claims against him and have you seen it it's like in a hotel hallway and she's clearly trying to leave and he just like fucking punches her to the floor and then like throws her across the room and oh my god it's horrible too it's like horrible. And I remember seeing that and thinking like the arrogance of that man doing that in a public building in a space where there's obviously going to be cameras and appearing to not give a fuck. Yeah. And how long ago was that? And it only came to light now because probably he's got a lot of money and power. Uh-huh. Exactly.

Well, this is the whole thing isn't it it's so since her lawsuit seven more women have come forward and two more men have sued as well accusing him of sexual harassment non-consensual pornography, sex trafficking and rape. According to this article I was just looking at that came out like last week, there was a press conference that has that reported an additional 120 accusers. Woo!

Yeah. So, safe to say that he, and I only need to say this for legal reasons, is allegedly a piece of shit. So, all this is happening. He's been arrested. He's not been granted bail.

But there's also, like, other shit. So, he used to have these parties, basically. Yeah. like other so he used to have these parties basically yeah and at the end of the party he's famous for the white parties right like that was him yeah that was him and at the end of the party things would get a little bit

sordid from what I can work out um so he what I can work out. So, he, in March this year, all his homes got raided by the FBI. He was then arrested. There's an unsealed indictment that alleges that he abused, threatened and coerced women and others and led to a racketeering Jesus.

So it's not just like he's a piece of shit towards women. I think he's just a piece of shit all round. I think he's just a piece of shit all round. Allegedly. Allegedly a piece of shit. So yeah, I've sort of seen little bits about it. And then the other day, my friend Nat, hi Nat, sent me a lengthy voice note. sent me a lengthy voice note um she's gone down a huge rabbit hole on like tiktok and stuff and it's like there's these wild conspiracy theories so from what i can remember because there was a lot so this isn't just diddy it's apparently also linked to jay-z and beyonce so they're somehow connected to this as well i can't remember how sorry about the lack

of information. But so what I can remember about these two is that it's like kind of this like power ring of rappers. And so, right. So there's this theory that if people don't thank Beyonce when they receive awards, they get killed. So, like, you'll notice, like, when Adele won her Grammys, like, all she did was thank Beyonce. She broke her award in half and said this half of this belongs to Beyonce. Wouldn't be here where I am. People are saying that, you know know the time Kanye West jumped on stage

and interrupted Taylor Swift apparently he saved her life that night because that brought attention back to Jay-Z and Beyonce yeah there's all this shit and there's also like links to so some people are saying

that he, that Diddy killed Tupac and Biggie. Because he didn't thank Beyonce. I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh. Okay. That is crazy. That's crazy shit, right? But there's like other rappers that have died that apparently is linked to like it seems like he's some sort of well gangster boss yeah mob boss yeah that is just like

fucking knocking people off if they disrespect him and stuff um there's also rumors that he is responsible for Michael Jackson's death. And he was the one who. What about Prince? Do you think Prince too? Maybe. Who knows? But with the Michael Jackson stuff. So obviously Michael Jackson was accused of like pedophilia and stuff. Um, and that was all like done by Diddy to take the spotlight off him for the shit he was actually doing.

Because people were getting too close. Okay. Yeah. And they lived like four doors away from each other. And there's apparently like tunnels from Diddy's house to Michael Jackson's old house. Oh, I was going to say like, why Michael Jackson, but that makes sense then. I was going to say like why Michael Jackson, but that makes sense then. Mm hmm. There's obviously. Justin Bieber has come out and sort of alluded to the amount of abuse he received at the beginning of his career. Mm hmm. And obviously he was.

Sort of. I guess mentored by Usher. and obviously he was sort of I guess mentored by Usher and Usher was very in with Diddy at the time and took Justin Bieber to these parties so it would seem that he was passed around at these parties potentially

a lot of crazy stuff I also read a thing the other day about how there was an incident, I think back in the early 2000s or 90s when J-Lo was with Diddy and they went to a club, Diddy brought a gun, but apparently J-Lo had the gun or like took the gun in for him. And some kerfuffle happened and the gun got shot and some, I don't know, woman like scraped her face and could have potentially killed her. And she was like made to be silenced and stuff. But has since come out and said like all this stuff and it was diddy starting like a gun war and shit i don't know yeah a lot of crazy shit going down man yeah i'm looking at this new york times article because they kind of have the here's

the latest here's what we know and it says like the federal indictment does not provide details of the arson accusation but other in other court papers prosecutors describe a sequence of events similar to those in a lawsuit that said mr combs orchestrated the fire bombing of the car owned by kid cootie ah yep that's one of them and And. The freak offs, which is the. Either post white party or in addition to white party parties, that was like basically. The hotel really like deviant and like dangerous and nonconsensual like sex parties that were called freak offs. dangerous and non-consensual like sex parties that were called freak offs um highly orchestrated performances of sexual activity in hotels and other locations that were fueled by drugs and could last for days at these events the government says women were applied with drugs to keep them

obedient and coursed into participate in sex with male prostitutes, and that law enforcement received various freak off supplies, including narcotics and more than 1000 bottles of baby oil and lubricant, which is would explain why I kept seeing stuff about baby oil on Twitter. That explains that. Yeah. I didn't know what that was really about. I thought I think maybe I thought it was related to Diddy, but it's also like, okay. What else? Yeah, the lawsuit with Cassie Ventura. She accuses of him rape, physical abuse abuse and forced sex with prostitutes and then the footage that was published by cnn and then i think maybe even

the defense team for diddy like sued because they thought it was like leaked or inappropriately released and it's like well you don't really get a right to privacy when you're in a hotel room and yeah it kind of goes back makes me think of there's probably non-disclosure agreements kind of like what we heard about when the reckoning with me too and like harvey weinstein and like the courts were like yeah you know what non-disclosure agreements are actually not enforceable in the way that these are even so even if they sign and get paid they can still talk about like the crimes that they you know were victims of yeah i think if you're being you know abused coerced raped held against your will then you've got a right to release evidence that proves it did he also apologized for his behavior on the video with Cassie.

So, like, they, I think he got, you know, charged. There's a civil lawsuit, but I think his attorneys probably tried to, like, get it taken down. But then he said something about, like, I hit rock bottom. My behavior in that video is inexcusable and I take responsibility for my actions. He seems to be too bad. Well, not fast enough for it to be available elsewhere he's currently denying the other he says let me be absolutely clear i did not do any of the awful things being alleged and this article was published September 25th.

The one I was looking at earlier from the 4th is I think now starting to pivot to, well, I got names of other people if this is the way it's going to go. And I think that's what I've seen a lot of on Twitter was like, we're going to release these names of these other people who are complicit. And it's like speculation about who it is, like including Jay-Z and Beyonce. Do you think that's true? Like, and how is that going to impact you if it turns out that like they are somehow implicated in this? I mean, not that fussed about Jay-Z. Like, I think we've spoken before about how their relationship could have been seen as a bit questionable

because he was, like, nearly 30 when they got together and she was, like, 19 or something like that. But, yeah, I will be upset if she's been involved in, like, murdering people and these weird fucking parties. Because you just assume that Beyonce is squeaky queen, queen bee, you know? Yeah, I'm interested to hear these names because that's going to be interesting. Apparently J. Cole's song She Knows links combs to the infamous celebrity deaths like alaya's too oh yes alia that was another one

um there are a few others i can't remember i should have taken notes when i listened to the but yeah it's really fucked I mean Eminem and 50 Cent have been trying to tell people for years yeah lyrics so it's obviously known in the industry because I've also seen other videos of like people on podcasts and interviews where you know they say they will not work with Diddy because they don't want to lose their like arse virginity and stuff like that like it's clearly known in the industry that this goes on yeah I mean there's some things that I have no doubt are true, particularly like even certain aspects of these like freak offs. I mean, I think men in particular and play them with drugs and alcohol and engage in, you know, sex and consent becomes questionable in those instances or, like, way too young of women in relationships and stuff like that. So some of that is really not all that surprising. I think the fact that this is, like, some sort of, like, criminal enterprise involving kind of, like, a lot of really big names is surprising.

Along with, you know, like, I mean, we know about kind of what Michael Jackson was accused of with younger boys and, like, Justin Bieber being really young, like, and there's all these kind of conspiracies about famous liberals who have like child sex trafficking rings. That's like one of the things that QAnon and like a lot of really kind of extreme right wing people kind of say about, like, do you remember when that furniture company Wayfair became like, apparently like the transportation for children who are are being sex traffic like some of the things it's kind of like okay if this are really happening and like this is being publicized as a thing now like someone's gonna look into it and like they're gonna get caught right like with the things people are posting as evidence it's like if that's real then that's going to be uncovered unless it like

goes straight to the top you know the government doesn't care i don't know but the fact that the government is federally charging him with these things makes me wonder how long they've been looking into it and just like yeah gathering evidence and not saying anything which is concerning because it's like how long did it go on for then when there was, like, probably known that this was happening? That's it. And the fact that they raided all of his homes at the same time, that's a very organized operation. Yeah. And clearly an attempt to stop him from fleeing anywhere.

Yeah, because wasn't he trying to, like, go to the Bahamas or something? I don't know what extradition laws are like there but I suspect probably pretty pretty strict but then like you were saying it's sort of about the other stuff and all the other sort of sex trafficking rings you know the Epstein stuff that was all going to come to light and then all of a sudden he allegedly kills himself in prison right when he was going to release all these names so when there's potentially really powerful people involved do we get all the truth will we ever find out exactly what happened or is this just going to be buried like all the other cases that come to light. Yeah, I mean, this thing from, it's kind of like, it's called The Root, and apparently they've published a lot of the conspiracies out there, but Diddy's former bodyguard said politicians participated in the mogul's famous freak-off sessions, and Deal, who worked for Combs in the 90s, stated that the producer's indictment may expose high-profile officials this is all bigger than diddy but like i as far as i can tell the indictment

hasn't right no i mean all we can hope for is that the trial is televised. Great. One, that would be so juicy to watch. And two, nothing could be twisted that way. Nothing can be hidden. I think they should do that. I agree. Do you remember when the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial was going on? Yeah.

I mean, that was fascinating in a way for a couple different reasons for me, the celebrity aspect of it. Yeah. Each person was being conveyed and we don't have to necessarily go into all of that today and my thoughts on that, but like it. It really highlighted, I think, some of the things that are maybe kind of troublesome about society and like what we care about, you know? Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I just. So Tony Busby, who's advocating for 120 individuals who've come forward with allegations, and he also says that the arrest and indictment gave people a little more comfort that they can safely come forward, which is good, and why it's important sometimes for, I think, people to, you know, vocalize stuff so it can give, you know, other

people, you know, kind of the confidence to come forward about things because that's a problem in sex abuse cases. But Khloe Kardashian, Megan Fox, Pink, Usher, those are all some, like, people who've kind of scrubbed ties. Leonardoardo dicaprio ashton kutcher uh mila kunis um they're all listed i mean the thing is like if say if you're new to this industry or you know you're just gaining traction with your career and you get invited to diddy's house for a party you don't necessarily know about this shit yeah you're gonna go like I'm sure loads of people are implicated in these parties it's I guess trying to work out who was engaging in illegal activities yeah or if they were victimized

right yeah or if they were victimized yeah like it sounds like with bieber he probably was a victim but it also probably if it's true helped maybe with some of his fame or kind of ascent to fame and then did he also become kind of like a perpetrator at some point who knows he definitely like these days kind of looks like someone who's maybe experienced some trauma yeah yeah for sure yeah i mean i saw something that said like usher brought him to the party as a gift oh god yeah which is a weird way of introducing a protege like that you're trying to help with their career i mean i'm sure if that's actually true and that was the motivation behind it that was it was oh no people are gonna love you yeah oh gosh but it's really difficult because like

all these are well a lot of these artists are people that I enjoy listening to their music. Not necessarily Diddy. I've not really been a huge fan of Diddy. But, like, Usher, I really enjoyed his albums. And he's got, like, a resurgence, you know? Yeah. So maybe I should just listen to all the music I liked as a teenager now. And get it out of the way before it comes to light that yeah it's like um did you ever like Lost Prophets um not like a super big fan but

you know of course there were like I think some of the singles that were really popular that I probably sang along to but it's so funny. I just mentioned them the other day. Cause I was listening to brand new and brand new has got its own problematic. And I really love that band. Right. Um,

and I was like, well, you know, it's not lost profits level of like disgusting, abusive deviancy. I mean, he like child predator to the max. Right.

And it was like the stuff when that came out, it was so, so horrifying. Yes. Yes. And I don't think I've listened to them since that came out, right? I can't. I won't. No. And, like, we've talked, maybe you and I have talked about it offline.

I can't remember. But, like, R. Kelly, you know, I learned recently when I was in Maine that proceeds from his songs now go to victims. So like, I really that the joke was we can listen to R. Kelly again. Now, you know, whether I really only liked Remix to Ignition, I don't think I listened to anything else by him. But it was like, because I had said we can't listen to that. And then someone was like, no, his proceeds go to victims now. So I was like, oh, OK, cool. And that should probably be what happens because I think people, if they care about this, like they have a hard time reconciling their strong feelings about the music and separating the

music from the artist, right? And I get it. same with Michael Jackson. I think for me, even not that I'm a huge fan, like R Kelly was an easy line to draw. Lost profits was an easy line to draw, but even like Michael Jackson or Prince, Prince had some kind of stuff that I didn't love. Um, like I think he like punched Sinead O'Connor or something like that. Did he? Yeah. Yeah. And she was just like,

I think kind of being an advocate or standing up for herself or someone. And he like, I think he slapped her or punched her and was kind of has had his own anger issues and other things, but people like really lionize him. But I don't think that having a standard of perfection is necessary, but I do have a problem with lost profits, capitalizing on their fame to engage in this behavior.

I kind of feel sorry for the rest of the band. I'm like, you guys didn't do anything wrong, but I can't listen was it just the singer monster yeah yeah yeah it's weird though because i've never i've always been in the michael jackson's innocent camp and i'm not really sure why. I just... I don't think... I think he was civilly sued, but I don't know if he lost that lawsuit or not. No, I think he might have paid them off. Which in any normal sort of circumstances,

that would make me think, well, they're guilty. But I don't know. There's just something about the Michaelael jackson thing that he was so sort of abused by his father and was a child star and the way he i've watched a lot of documentaries about it and the the way he is with kids isn't in a predatory nature it's that he is trying to be a kid because he never had a childhood and i don't know why that indicates why that makes me i think you're thinking about the intent behind it yeah the intent is somehow less it's more innocent yeah it's more innocent than r kelly p diddy but i think we could probably

also say that maybe those men experience some trauma or difficulties in their childhood too you know well yeah trauma you know abuse stems from trauma doesn't it and yeah i mean and being black in america it has its own generational trauma that gets passed down too but so sure i think you can probably look at culpability and intent behind actions and like whether michaels was somehow less predatory or based on power and more about kind of developmentally but he also had the ability to get access in a way that he wouldn't have if he wasn't a famous person and i think he knew that but and I think it's because with him it was always the parents that were suing but the children he spent time with always said

he never did anything we just had fun and played around sure maybe there were some blurred boundaries but nothing he was acquitted in the civil case too in 2005 so but that also to me doesn't necessarily it just means there was no evidence that's why we say we don't say innocent we say not guilty or acquitted right yeah i said well i guess we'll never know now r.i.p yeah maybe that was diddy's fault. Well, yeah. That was on my birthday too. It was like, come on. I just wanted to have this one day to myself.

Thanks, Diddy. Fucking ruining my birthday. Mm-hmm. Well, stay tuned on this. I think we'll probably continue to explore this topic and watch for bombshells and talk about it more because I am curious to see if it's gonna roll out the way that we're seeing online and kind of on TikTok which I'm not saying is the most reliable news source but if we start seeing other people

implicated I think that's gonna have people are gonna have a hard time with that yeah stay tuned folks well should we um jump to something a little a little less deep maybe a little less deep, maybe. A little less... Why not? You know, heavy. So I came across this list of proposed amendments to your constitution. Oh, God. Okay. That didn't pass. Mm-hmm. And I thought we could run through them

and just get your thoughts on whether you think that was a good idea or a bad idea. Yeah, okay. Okay, so. In 1876, there was an attempt to abolish the United States Senate. Just the Senate, not the House, huh?

Or all of it, you know? Okay. Do you have any more context about that? No. That's all I got. Well, it didn't pass because, interestingly... Okay, so amendments need to pass with states. Do you have anything on there about what exactly is needed for an amendment to pass, or do I have to look it up because I can't remember?

You've got to look that up. Okay, so an amendment may be proposed by two-thirds vote of both houses of Congress, and if two-thirds of the states request one by convention called for that purpose, the amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of state legislatures or three-fourths of conventions called so basically the states ultimately have to like yeah um right and so there's a proposal and ratification process but it's interesting that it says both houses of congress i assume they mean the house and the senate so like the senate had to vote maybe on whether it should be abolished yeah they're gonna be like maybe some people are like yeah yeah actually i don't want a job i'm ready to retire okay also in 1876 um they wanted to pass the amendment um for the forbidding of religious leaders from

occupying a government off a governmental office or receiving federal funding interesting okay so basically if you're a pastor you can't be can't be in government can't be in government federal government anyways um i mean i don't hate that idea if i really thought about it i might i think i might have some thoughts but i especially nowadays when i've seen things about Christian nationalists trying to get into government to make our government more aligned with Christianity. And probably get rid of separation of church and state or whatever because they think that that somehow is the reason why things are the way they are. that somehow is the reason why things are the way they are. I don't hate that idea, but I suspect it was probably offered for reasons that I would be curious about and question. Now, getting money is interesting because I think the feds give money to states in a variety of things because of different programs and laws that allow them to do so.

And there's usually strings attached. One of the things I remember from law school was like, oh, the purse strings. And that was one of the things that stuck out to me was the drinking age. And states can set their own drinking age, right? But the feds made it so if you want to get federal money from us, then you should set your drinking age right but the feds made it so like if you if you want to get federal money from us then you should set your drinking age to 21 otherwise you're not going to get these funds for roads or something yeah so isn't it in america as well that churches or religious groups are tax exempt yeah they have to like qualify

for a certain classification. Like you can't just be like, well, I'm a church. Like I couldn't just say I'm a church now. So I'd have to like apply for a status in order to, but yes, that is true, I believe. Oh, here's a cracker. In 1893, they proposed renaming this nation the united states of the earth that is so egotistical like as if we're the only country on Earth, so therefore we'd...

Oh, my God. People have... And apparently as part of the same proposal, there was also a suggestion to abolish the United States Army and Navy. So rename to United States of the Earth and no longer have any military i mean you know what that sounds kind of like hippie to peepees and love it does yeah kind of like no more war yeah i mean that's honestly not really what would happen but when was that proposed 1893 okay so it's not like as a result of. They were ahead of their time.

Yeah. Like the hippie movement when they were like protesting the wars. Okay. Interesting. The United States of the Earth. Would we just be short? Would we just shorten it to Earth? Like we call it America?

Yeah. So, oh yeah. I'm from Earth. I'm from Earth. What the fuck? I'm renaming America that now, okay? Oh yeah, my Earthican mate, Kate. Talking shit with an Earthican and a Brit.

Woo! Okay, in 1894, they proposed acknowledging that the constitution recognized god and jesus christ as the supreme authorities in human affairs oh okay you know it's weird how like separation from church and state blah blah blah but how much religion and god does appear in kind of the founding you know concepts of our nation and in a lot of ways isn't like separated like the pledge of allegiance all of that so yeah it's surprising it's still there to this day yeah you know yep so they someone basically is like let's just be honest about what we're doing here

this one you'll love is it about cats no i'm being sarcastic in 1912 they wanted to make marriage between races illegal oh yeah we had to have a whole supreme court case about that wow called virginia vila yeah i mean i'm not surprised that someone actually tried to like explicitly ban it because that's the whole purpose of the supreme court isn't interpreting the constitution like the the constitution doesn't say a lot of specific things about like what we can or cannot do right like it doesn't say anything about abortion specifically the supreme court justices have had to use like the right to privacy due

process clause a lot of things like that to interpret like laws about inconstitutionality of things and so i think because it wasn't specific it doesn't surprise me that someone or a group of someones were like we should just be really specific about interracial marriage. Fuck. In 1914, they wanted to make divorce illegal. Of course they did, because that's against God's will. It's not in the Bible. We shouldn't be able to allow it, you know?

Just like Project 2025 wants to, like, kind of bring back fault find it fought fault-based divorces but also get rid of the whole hey do you reckon they looked at this list and were just like absolutely they did i'm sure they're like hey i'm sure they did good idea yeah we need to bring back some of these amendments proposals in 1916 they proposed that now i quite agree with this one that all acts of war should be put to a national vote and anyone voting yes has to register as a volunteer for service in the united states army it's an interesting idea for sure um i think there's probably a couple things that might be a challenge, which is like voting is private, who you vote for is private, and so are what you vote for is private. So like by voting yes, requiring people to register is, I don't know how...

I guess it just wouldn't be anonymous in that. It just wouldn't be anonymous in that. Yeah. Or it's like, if yes, then also select yes for registering for, I don't know. But I think it's interesting. I don't think it's a bad idea. No. And I think I get that motivation behind it.

Because as of right now, I believe the president has like exclusive authority to declare war. Or does Congress contribute? i think congress can too but i think it's like part of the executive function to also do that no i'm gonna check myself on that one like there's a lot of things in like uk government and UK law that are just voted for internally within the government and I'm like why aren't these things put to the public especially when they're you know important

laws that are going to affect citizens of this country like imagine if Brexit wasn't put to a vote to Like, imagine if Brexit wasn't put to a vote to the people, though. Which I'm glad it was, because I think that's a thing. But also, had it not been,

I wonder what would have happened because of all of probably the lack of information around voting. I'm going to correct myself, too, because I'm going to feel like an idiot. And I do. It's Congress. Constitution grants Congress

the exclusive authority to declare. Right. But I think there are certain things that the president can do because he's the commander-in-chief or she is the commander-in-chief technically. Yeah. That's short of declaring war and then after war is declared

they can do a lot of things. So. Right. Don't flame me for being dumb folks okay? I only can remember so much you're cancelled but yeah i uh back to what you just said which now i can't remember putting it to the vote of the people yeah so that was in 1916 and then they tried again in 1936 an attempt to allow the american people to vote on whether or not the United States should go to war. So someone clearly wanted this to happen. voting for our president and our representatives and our senators we vote for people who support what we support and so then they're supposed to vote for their constituents but there's a disconnect between what the what congress ends up passing and proposing and i think their constituents

you know yeah i think that's the problem with our so-called democracy at the moment, isn't it? Yeah. In 1933, there was an attempt to limit personal wealth to $1 million. How much is that in today's money? That's a good question. Oh. $1 million. In 1933.

Would be $24,253,923.08. I'd be okay with that. Yeah. Do you need more than that? I don't think so. I don't know. And I guess this isn't saying everyone gets a million dollars it's but I wonder what happened like so you have to just for like forfeit the rest that you earn there there'd be a chilling effect I think on like entrepreneurial thinking if that were to be the case but I get it and I think probably

there is a way to kind of achieve whatever that was oh like pay taxes based on how much money you earn there's an idea yeah I had this thing the other day which blew my mind let me just look it up.

So, right. If you had a billion dollars, which, you know, there are a lot of people... Who do, right? Who do. And you spent $1 thousand dollars a day how long do you think you would be spending that money for how long would it last my whole life 2740 years yeah you wouldn't there's no way you would be able to spend it. So that means also you could spend $10,000 a day and still not run out of money.

No. So you don't need that much fucking money. Give it to poor people. But what if I want to buy a million dollar thing one day? Then I can't spend any more money for the rest of the next year. Okay, Elon Musk. I think you're stupid. You don't need that much money. Capitalism is stupid. Yeah. Okay. In

1938, they proposed the forbidding of drunkenness in the United States and all of its territories. Oh, was that prohibition? Is that too late for prohibition? I don't know. Is the booze okay? You just can't get drunk.

Yeah, you get allowed to drink, but you're not allowed to be drunk, people. When was prohibition? Prohibition was 1920 to 1933 so we had prohibition and then five years after it was repealed someone's like okay we gotta rethink this we had that catching up few years Few years. Yeah. Prohibition is a really good example of like not having enough understanding about what you're doing and the consequences of that meant for black and brown people in society and all of that. Because like no one in leadership cares to be like, what could this mean for the people that it's affecting? Yeah. I don't want to think about that, Kate. I wonder if the people who wanted to like effectively, well, we're not talking about getting rid of booze, just drunkenness. There is a difference.

You can still drink, but like you have to limit it. And I'm sorry. That's just going to disproportionately affect women because we're of like such a gentle, delicate nature that we get drunk way faster. Exactly. nature that we get drunk way faster exactly and you know we tend to drink wine which is actually a lot more alcoholic than beer like a whole bottle of wine each each glass is, you know, 11%. 46 beers. 46 beers a glass. Exactly. So it's not fair.

Nope. Whoever did that hated, whoever proposed that hates women. Yep. In 1947, they proposed that the income tax maximum for an individual should not exceed 25%. And that didn't pass? What is there right now? Oh, why would you know? I'm sorry, I don't know why I would ask you that. In England, it's, well, it depends on what you earn,

but below the upper threshold, it's 20%. And then it goes up to 40 40 and then 50, I think. Okay, income tax rates. It appears to stop at 9.85%. What? You lucky bastards. Yeah. I don't know.

Taxes hurt my brain. Yeah. So I could be looking at the wrong thing. Oh, this is from Minnesota. I need the feds. Okay. 10%, 12%, 22%, 24, 32, 35, and 37. Okay. So they wanted to cap it at 25, but it goes up to 37. Depending on what you earn. Yes. Because you fall into a bracket based on your annual income and that's how much you're taxed, right? But I think there's something about it's only the amount over that

rather than the whole amount. So if I'm in one bracket and I earn, yeah. So our tax system is very confusing and fucked up too. But I also just like, our tax system is very confusing and fucked up, too. But I also just, like, if I earn, if I'm Jeff Bezos, like, 37% is probably, like, a couple weeks worth of earnings, profit. Like, fucking calm down. Tax the fucking rich. Right. And this is spoken like a poor person i get it

yes i agree no i think it's you know like one the amount of money that governments could earn from these super rich people would help especially in england you know the struggling infrastructures public services that are on their knees all you need to do is and i'm not talking about just you know people that are in earning a decent wage you know 100 grand or whatever you're fine i'm talking about multi-million billion obscene obscene unheard of just like incomprehensible amounts of money like you as we've just proven you cannot spend that money in your lifetime it would probably take a good fucking 10 generations for your family to spend that amount of wealth and that's assuming they didn't add to it or do something to it to like continue it to grow exactly and the more money you just sat in your

closet yeah in a shoebox yeah yeah text the rich motherfuckers um okay final one then in 1971 so not that long ago. Hmm. I quite like this one. They proposed that American citizens should have the alienable right to an environment free from pollution. Would it be inalienable? It says alienable. I feel like alienable is the opposite. Yeah, able to be transferred to new ownership. So I can...

Well, that sentence no longer makes sense. But because inalienable, right, means like there's nothing that can be done to like negate it, right? Right. So I think maybe it's just a tip. It's what they're saying, get rid of all of all pollution i mean i kind of like it too i feel like especially since we know like poor communities that aren't like majority white get the factories that pollute get the the things that truly impact yeah their quality of life um so i i don't i mean i think for that to pass as an amendment and be in the constitution um it would like let's say

that happened today or even in 71 because i'm sure the issue still existed then too, but maybe not on the scale that it is now. It would take so many years to actually achieve that, that there'd be so many lawsuits, I bet, saying unconstitutional. Which probably is what is necessary, but it just... Knowing what I know now about the government and people who don't believe in climate change. Well, exactly. I think if that had happened in the the 70s then we might be in a very different place right now we might not be having these fucking huge hurricanes that are destroying florida yeah in north carolina or south carolina one of the carolinas oh carolina Carolina. Sweet Caroline. Well, that was a roller coaster. My favorite one.

I didn't know a lot of those. The United States of the Earth. Henceforth shall be known as the United States of armpits and butts. That is my proposal. I like it. Thank you.

Someone commented, the first step towards super-earth. That's probably their plan. Yeah. Weird. Make earth great again. That would be the slogan I love it well there we have it

yeah some of them should have passed some of them definitely shouldn't have I just feel like it's like got a bad idea think about making it a proposal as an amendment to the constitution why not let's do it

I like it okay now I usually end with am I the arsehole but we're not today baby well it kind of is. But it just wasn't on.

Okay. I'm on the other side. You know, anything can be an asshole if you try hard enough. That's true. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I, 23 female, won $10,000 in cash.

Nice. My boyfriend, who is 24 and male, of four years and I have been having a childish fight and I did something I can't undo. What was it? What level of pettiness are we about to hear? You shall see. He's a full-time student who works part-time in the summer. I have a full-time and part-time job. In brackets, he studies a lot. We live together and mostly live off my pay while he stretches what he makes in the summer. Neither of us have ever owned a car because it isn't necessary where we live. We both walk or take public transport everywhere to save money. In the morning, we stop at a corner shop shortly before splitting up for the day. He buys cigarettes and coffee. I buy fruit for my lunch and on the weekend, lotto tickets. He always makes fun of me for paying the stupid tax, but I figure my indulgence is cheaper and doesn't come with

lung cancer, something I jokingly tell him not to expect a penny when I win. The day I won, he answered me with, fine, keep it all. It's not like I'm crying over a penny or nothing over here. Alright, mate. I showed him that I'd won, and he stared for a bit

and then dismissively told me I'd probably spent more than that on tickets in response I asked what I should blow his half on for myself I was honestly joking at the time but he suddenly became angrier than I've ever seen him

and I didn't want to admit i'd been kidding because he he was so pissed off it pissed me off fair enough tell these people young um he wants a car and i don't he keeps trying to steamroller me so i'm refusing to share the money in all honesty i'm willing to spend or save the money for us, but I don't want a car. I won't use a car and it will keep costing us money in parking and maintenance. There. Yeah. After weeks of him sulking and lecturing me about his, in quotes, entitlement to the money,

he took me to a car lot and tried to embarrass me into going along with him in front of a salesman i threw a tantrum after we left without buying anything and i went to my mum's and paid our rent up front to the end of the year and donated the rest to charity he doesn't know i fucked up and i don't know how to come clean, what do I do? Oh, disagree. You didn't fuck up. He fucked up. It's your money. It's your money.

He also sounds like a fucking dick. As soon as you get money, that's what he's going to act like. Dump his ass. That's my perspective. I agree. They're not married. He's not entitled to it. It sounds like she was also open to,

you know, I always lose when I gamble. I don't really do that. I get mad when I put like 20 bucks in a slot or on roulette and lose because I'm like, well, 20 bucks I could have had. But you have to pay to win. You have to play to win too. So like she won. Good for her. Sounds like she wasn't going to be a dick about it until he was first and like like take putting her in a position where she would have been like i'm so embarrassed or like ashamed that i guess i will just buy this car that i'm not going to use is so fucked up like that's so manipulative i'm glad she stood her ground there and you know what good for her for like basically covering an expense for a while that would allow her to save and donating it to charity. Good for her. I wouldn't have necessarily donated at all. I would have donated some. Maybe all. I don't know. Maybe if I were in her shoes, I would have. But she did something that benefited them both, would give him an opportunity to save some money if they split the rent and he could buy his own goddamn car then.

if they split the rent and he could buy his own goddamn car then um and yeah so i guess i don't think she fucked up i don't think she has to come clean about anything if she doesn't want to but she you know if she wants to be like oh yeah i paid up our rent for the year and gave the rest of charity so stop nagging me about it you asshole yeah i mean it's it's like you've read all the comments for this um i didn't one person said i don't think you fucked up at all another one me neither you spent your money buying the tickets except technically you're winning money it's not like you're married that'd be different he's just mad that he didn't support your buying the tickets in the first place and now he looks entitled i think you spent the money very wisely and plus that he didn't support your buying the tickets in the first place and now he looks entitled I think you spent the money very wisely

and plus now he doesn't have to worry about the rent he better not complain someone else agreed the only way this would be a fuck up is if OP had a tax bill due and now has no funds to pay it anymore and that would be her problem that would be her problem yeah and now has no funds to pay it anymore. And that would be her problem.

That would be her problem, yeah. All in all, OP, you sound like a very level-headed person. Your boyfriend, on the other hand, sounds like a huge jerk. Why are you with someone who treats you like that? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Someone else said, you paid the rent up front for both of you or just yourself and she said it's my place from before dating him i never ask him for rent because it costs me the same either way okay well so then i guess he doesn't have that savings now but she does. And she can kick him out

and not have to worry about his deadbeat ass. Exactly. Metrometric said, I think you should seriously consider everyone's responses. Your boyfriend does not sound like he's respectful or appreciative of the effort you put into the relationship. That said, do you mean that your dad

gave you money when you turned eight? This must have been a previous comment. Do you mean that your dad gave you money when you turned 18 then this must have been a previous comment do you mean that your dad gave you oh i've lost my spot fucking hell my eyes aren't working that said do you mean that your dad gave you money when you turned 18 so that you could get yourself out of an abusive situation if you had to because that's the first i've heard of a parent doing that but that's a seriously awesome idea I know a few women who keep saving specifically because they want to have in quotes insurance in case of a bad situation but never a parent initiating that sort of savings if I ever have children I'm totally stealing that idea it's a good idea she said yeah my dad sat me down and gave me the grown-up talk about verbal and physical abuse

and consent how to recognize it what to do how not to be abusive um and he then gave me this money and explained how to use it he did this for all his kids boy or girl i hate to quote john mayer because he's kind of a dick but uh i think that's what the song Fathers Be Good To Your Daughters is getting at. Yep. I agree. Oh, there's an update. Right, okay, here we go. Long story short, a couple of months before I won,

my boyfriend had secretly dropped out of school to join a Christian rock band. Oh my God. Oh my God. friend had secretly dropped out of school to join a christian rock band oh my god in uh in brackets he's not christian anybody can be christian if they try hard enough sorry go on he secretly dropped out of school to join a Christian rock band and bartend to cover his new coke habit, which explains so much. He took me winning as a sign that they were about to make it and should go on tour. That's why he wanted the car so damn much.

Obviously, we had a huge fight. I sacrificed a lot because he told me that he'd never be happy without that degree. And he, I told him, cause he told me that he'd never be happy with that degree. And he threw it away to play rockstar while I ground myself down at dead end jobs.

I told him I agreed to support him through one dream. And if he was done with it, I was going to chase after my dreams. Now he's made all kinds of promises to me about how he'll take care of me when he gets famous. But I told him the only promises I cared about were the ones he made to me when I agreed to help him through school. He broke up with me until I, in quotes, come to your senses. As far as I'm concerned, that's already happened. So I had his brother pick up his stuff. He tried to cause problems about me, in quotes,

illegally evicting him. But I reminded him that I had some text conversations where he said, your apartment, your problem, and I don't live there anymore, so you deal with it. I have no idea if that's legally enforceable, but neither does he. My lease is up in three months and I won't have to worry about it after that. It's been really rough accepting that he's not the guy I fell in love with anymore, but the way he's been acting has made it a lot easier. I'm mostly angry angry i sunk so much of my time and money and compromised my future for him but i guess it's better that i found out now instead of later i got tested in case he cheated or was doing other drugs and so far so good i'm also 9 000 percent sure my ex staged the three break-ins we had in our apartment after one of his friends told me around that time that my then boyfriend was trying to sell my prescriptions and his laptop

that i ended up replacing for fuck's sake oh my god um that were supposedly stolen i told the cops and his friend agreed to make a statement, but I don't know what's happening with that yet. Other than that, I'm happy to report that I'm only working one job now and that's actually something I want to do and pays way more. My apartment is much nicer without his junk and now the toilet is never unflushed and the seat is always down

so I've got that going for me too. With all my free time, I've rescued a kitty and I'm learning to knit. I was planning on becoming an old cat lady, but I also went on my second first date ever. It was with another woman, which was kind of a surprise, but also somehow not. We've got a second date planned and I'm incredibly giddy with anticipation, which is really nice. Oh, and I told my dad how much you liked his dump him fund consent conversation.

And he said his grandma gave him one when he decided to get married at 18. So he can't take the credit for that. Thanks for the well wishes, everyone. Good for her. She lost 180 plus pounds of dead weight and i'm super happy for her yeah that's really nice happy ending in the end and you gotta get it is there something about christian rock band and drug habit that don't seem to align are we sure it's just not a regular rock band?

Maybe the Christians are super coke heads. We don't know. I'm not saying that you can't be spiritual or religious and have a drug problem. It just seems to me like those two things don't really align. Maybe because he's the non-Christian one. He's like, well, I'm just in a rock band, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to do all the coke I can.

Yeah, and I'll cheer with my bandmates. Oh, what the fuck? Fuck that guy. Good for her. Yeah. Well, this is a fun kind of restart episode for us. We're back, baby baby we are back back in this joint we're never gonna leave your ear holes ever we might take breaks we might tell you we're gonna take breaks we might not but uh we're never leaving we're never leaving

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I do too um but until next time it was good good talking to you oh i was lovely chatting shit with you my dear have a good rest of the day and that's not a question that's a command i know it did i'm sorry i meant it genuinely and you i hope, I hope the rest of your day is wonderful and enlightening and refreshing. I'm going to go get vaccinated. What for? COVID, the flu, you know, usual stuff. Everything? Yeah.

All of them? Mm-hmm. Just give me everything you got. You still got some of that polio vaccine? i want a big chunk of my skin taken out that's what i'm gonna say i'm gonna go right now and say that wish me luck you spend a lot of time on boats yeah all right we'll see you next time. Bye. you