Talking Shit with a Yank & a Brit - 63. Kettle Chips Crunch

Episode Date: November 28, 2024

This week we're talking about the new cabinet, the tragedy of Liam Payne's death, is Taylor Swif a nice person and an AITA!Get involved and tell us your sh*t @TSYBPOD or TalkShitToUs@gmail.com...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, hello there. Welcome back to Tork and Chit with a yank and a bit. I don't know what that accent is. Yeah, it's kind of like, okay, she's doing this and oh no, that took a turn. What was that? What would you say that was? I feel like it was like Finland. Do it again or something. I don't know if I can. Talking shit.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Oh, hello. It was kind of Canadian but not. Yeah. Hello there. Anyway, hi. Anyway, hi. Canadian, but not. Yeah. Hello there. Opa-de-do-pa-de-do. Boop-a-do-boop-a-do. Anyway, hi.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Anyway, hi. This is our podcast. It's called Talking Shit with a Yank and a Brit, and you're listening to... It. It. It's called Talking Shit with a Yank and a Brit, because I'm a yank, you Gemma are a Brit.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Yes, I'm a Brit. And we talk shit, we talk about shit. We deep dive into interesting, funny, political, cultural topics. And by deep, I mean very surface level. If you dive in, you might break your neck because it's so shallow. Because we really just wanna kind of replicate
Starting point is 00:01:36 what it's like for two friends just talking about their lives and things going on in their lives in the world in a way that is not a super analytical, like, because that's not how it works in the real world, right? No. We want to feel like you're sitting at home with your friends. I can't speak. With your friends. With your friends having a nice conversation. Kind of made me think of the Prince,
Starting point is 00:02:05 I think it's the Princess Bride when it's, marriage, marriage brings us together. Did you ever see that movie? You haven't? That is such a good movie. You need to watch it. Yeah. It's old, but it's a goodie.
Starting point is 00:02:18 It's one of my favorites. Yeah. And I think just based on some of the feedback we've gotten over the time we've been doing this, like people yell at their radios or their devices. Yeah, because we are either getting something glaringly wrong or forgetting a very obvious answer or response to a thing, or people just want to contribute to our conversation, which is why we always tell you to shoot us an email at talkshittous.gmail.com. Yeah, or get on the socials at Tsybpodge to tell us that we're wrong. But you know, we're organic, we're fresh, we're keeping it real. We're not going to sit here and fact check
Starting point is 00:02:57 everything we say because we're normal people. So that's how the world works, baby. Baby. Still super windy. Yeah, I don't know if it's getting picked up on the old microphone, but it's very windy here. We've got Storm Burt. I love Burt, not the storm, but the name. And I can't hear anything for what it's worth. Best name for a storm I've heard in years. Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm impressed.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Sounds kind of like just a gentle old man, even though clearly it's not. Just makes me think of Bert and Ernie. Yeah, for sure. How have you been? Okay. Okay. Yeah, okay. You know, same shit different week, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Not much has changed. Busy. Shows. Work. Life. Shows, work, teaching, life issues. And it's been very, very cold. How cold are we talking?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Probably not as cold as you. It's not that cold here yet. So, Is it not? Okay. No, I mean, it's chilly, but it's not, I don't think it's really gotten below freezing here yet on a like consistent basis, maybe at night. But, here yet on a consistent basis, maybe at night. Yeah, we've been at like minus three. It snowed in multiple parts of the UK, not here.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Oh, it did actually here, like a spattering of snow. One day. But then randomly today it's really warm again. It's like 15 degrees now. Thanks Storm Burt. Thanks Stormbert. Bringing that heat. And climate change, cause I think 2024 is on track to be the warmest year yet.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yay. We're just gonna keep getting that way. Next year will be the even warmer one anyway. Yeah, I was gonna say, I think 2023 was like the warmest on record and now 2024 is surpassing that. Well done. Yep. We did it guys.
Starting point is 00:05:07 We did it. We ruined the earth. You know, maybe if we approach it that way, at least we won't be miserable as we die from climate crisis issues. Yeah. I mean, you know, the positive thing we've got to look at is we're all going to die, but the earth isn't. The earth will rejuvenate itself once it's got rid of the parasites that are human beings. And you know a few thousand years, million years, whatever, back to normal. And there might be another race of terrible humans to destroy that as well. Even worse than ours. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah, not a lot new for me either since you asked. Sorry. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But fine, same. Actually, I had kind of a busy week last week, which is good because it's been consistently kind of not busy and I had to to leave my house like three times. So...
Starting point is 00:06:08 Damn girl! I know. You must be exhausted. So tired. So, so tired. Yeah, there's like, I mean, and it's, you know, kind of holiday season. I know you guys don't have Thanksgiving, but I do feel like... Oh yeah, When's that?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Uh, next Thursday. Hmm. Yeah. Next Thursday? Yeah. It's always the last Thursday in November. Oh, okay. For some reason. I think we talked about this last time.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Yeah, probably. I just don't remember. Don't recall anything we talk about. That's also the beauty of this podcast, how it replicates your conversations with your friends. Every year we do the same cycle of topics. We just don't remember what we spoke about last time. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And it might be entirely different because we just are guessing at the facts, but that's what keeps it special. That's what keeps it special. That's what keeps it spicy. Yep. So Thanksgiving for us, so we'll have a couple days off and then it's kind of end of the Christmas season and that's always supposed to be a really happy time, but it never really is for anybody. Yeah, fair.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So it's just quite busy, isn't it? I don't know about you. Yeah. Because obviously my parents aren't together. So you have to see sort of both of them and you know, things as well. And then if you've got a partner, you see there some family as well.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And like me and Alan, I've got the week off and we're really looking forward to it, but it's slowly just getting filled up with activities. Yeah, I mean, I saw the group chat of the holiday plans that I won't be able to join, but you know. That down to your airline crap. Oh my God. One of the flights back was, hey, leave Gatwick to fly to Jordan and then you can fly to Istanbul and then you can fly to Iceland and then Detroit and then Minneapolis.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I was like I'll die. That's like the Oregon Trail for me. I'm gonna dive dysentery on that journey. That sounds shit. Yeah. Yeah, I don't blame you. That's fine. Well as long as you come back next year. We'll see. We'll see. As we discussed, it won't be my birthday because you're always busy on my birthday, but fine. I promise I will make it for your birthday one year. It just might not be the one that's coming. I don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Well, I promise. It'll be when we're 60. You've got at least like two more birthdays before we die. So. You don't know that. I might get one over both of you. You have at least one more after this one. True. I'll probably make it to the next one. Hopefully fingers crossed. Touch wood.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You're gonna. You're right about holidays being busy. And also my parents have, weren't together like they divorced when I was still in high school, but having to balance the different, like we're going to stop here on this day and here on this day. The way to resolve that is to have one parent pass away and then not really have a relationship with the other one, and then have your partner's parents live in a different country. That's the way to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Well you've just solved Christmas. Yeah. So go ahead and start cutting those relationships off. I do keep saying I'm just gonna go away for Christmas and then I never do because it comes around really fast and I'm like, oh I haven't booked anywhere, I never have booked. But that's the solution also. Go away. I agree. I mean that's what we were going to try to do but then it would have just been with you lot. Well I hope you have a lovely Thanksgiving. This will come out on Thanksgiving, actually. So happy Thanksgiving to one and all in America, but nowhere else, because nowhere else celebrates that. I'm sure everyone will be listening as they're sitting around the table,
Starting point is 00:10:15 having white and beige foods, not a lot of flavor, and the worst pie of all. What's the worst pie? Pumpkin. Oh that is the worst pie. I mean it's just like a pumpkin cheesecake I can get down with but I always find like pumpkin pie is just not sweet enough and it's kind of boring and yeah just have like an apple pie yeah apple and blackberry mmm that sounds good I don't like that either I don't like cooked fruit but that's a completely different I mean but there's like a French silk pie that's really good that's just chocolate and like that sounds good yeah it's amazing huh well thank you all I'm not sure what we're
Starting point is 00:11:04 doing for Thanksgiving yet the day day of, but we're going to be probably going to see my stepmom on the day after. Cool. Well, enjoy that. Thanks. And enjoy your pumpkin pie. Will do. I'll send you a picture. Please do, actually. I've never seen a pumpkin pie before. That's what you think.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And I'm not going to Google it, I'm waiting for the photo. All right, and they all look the same. I mean sometimes people put like whipped cream on it or like, but it's just pumpkin pie crust. So is there like pastry on top of it? Or it's just like tart? Yeah, I haven't seen pumpkin pie with like the crust on the top because it would be probably the driest thing known to man then. Might keep some moisture in. Yeah, get some flavour in.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Yeah, but it's more like the tart where it's like the crust and then the filling and you can kind of just see it. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, I hope you get a good pie. I think I will have an option. Maybe not just pumpkin. You'll have a pie option, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I'm itching my arm.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Stop it. I'm really itchy at the moment. You don't have to take off your whole shirt to itch your arm. No, I'm just pulling it right up. Above the elbow. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, please note that Gemma just totally disrobed
Starting point is 00:12:28 to hit her tricep. I did not. Kate's exaggerating, hey? All right. So that's about our kind of worlds, but speaking of the larger world, a lot of stuff has happened, I think even before we recorded last time,
Starting point is 00:12:52 and I know we skipped a week, but like the stuff that's going on right now is there's almost too many things to talk about, and yet we still are kind of like, what are we gonna talk about today? The one thing I wanted to hear your thoughts on was uh Liam Payne right that's his name? That's his name yeah one direction boy man I suppose he's not a boy any longer. I suppose yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I suppose yeah. Yeah I thought it was a shocker and really tragic. Actually felt really sad about it even though I'm not you know a One Direction fan. That's what I was gonna ask like were you ever I don't know what if they have a nickname like Swifties do but like... One Directioners I think they were called. But British band, they're all from England right? British band, yeah. They were obviously hugely successful, they were bigger than the Beatles which is... How do we measure that? Do we know that?
Starting point is 00:14:02 I think like record sales or something. Oh okay, okay. Sure. Do you know the mentalist thing though? One, they were put together on X Factor by Simon Cowell. Oh, that's how it started, okay, I didn't know that. They came third, but then went on to be obviously a global success. And the band was only together for five years.
Starting point is 00:14:23 That's it? Feels like that was... That was it. Huh. It's crazy, That's it? Feels like that was... That's it. It's crazy, isn't it? Yeah. But no, it wasn't really a fan. I think perhaps we were a little too old for to enjoy that kind of...
Starting point is 00:14:38 Because they were young when they started, right? Exactly. You know, we were NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, that kind of vibe. They were next generation, I think. And it's like they went on to several of them went on to have, like Harry Styles, I think is probably the one who had the most success, maybe seguing into a solo career, right? I love Harry. I actually like him as like just an artist himself. Yeah. Like genuinely enjoy his albums. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Watermelon sugar. Watermelon sugar. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I think it was really tragic. I think a few of them obviously struggled with like fame. Imagine being fucking, I think he was like 16 or 17 at school and then being catapulted into global fame
Starting point is 00:15:37 and not just like, you know, B-list fame. Like fucking everyone in the world knew who they were. So I think when they split it was quite, well it must have been so much to deal with being like a multi-millionaire so young, having everyone know who you are, touring the world for five years and then that just stopping. Yeah. So it looks like 2010 was when they kind of, so, and it's bonkers to me that this is how it happened. 2010? Yeah. So I was in law school. So full adult. They all auditioned as solo candidates for X Factor, and they all failed to progress in the boys category, if that tells you maybe how old they were that they had.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And so they failed to progress there, but put together to form a five piece boy band qualifying for groups, which is so interesting to me, because that means none of them knew each other. They all individually are like, I'm gonna be a big star solo artist, and none of them knew each other. They all individually are like, I'm gonna be a big star solo artist and none of them were good enough. And so then it's Simon Cowell slash the people at X Factor were like, I don't know, we could put these five together and see what happens. Let's make it by hand.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah. And then it says 2016 is kind of the 2010 to 2016 at Rither years active. And their first song as a group was an acoustic version of Torn. Did you know that? Was it? I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know that. Crazy. And Cowell later commented that their performance convinced him that they were a confident, fun, like a gang of friends and kind of fearless as well. Cool. I'm sure Simon Cowell just saw, chaching, chaching, chaching. Yeah. But then, yeah, and I remember being aware of them as they got famous and was kind of like,
Starting point is 00:17:43 I thought we were done with boy bands, but okay. You know, everyone was like, oh, you know, my favorite is Lewis and my favorite's Harry and my favorite's... Yeah. Which is very much how I think we approached one or NSYNC and Backstreet Boys. Yeah. We all had our favorites. Yeah. And then they broke up. They broke up. They said they were going on a hiatus. So fans have been hoping they would reunite for years. Yeah, it looks like in 2020 they posted something about 10 years of One Direction and maybe doing a 10th anniversary something or other, but maybe it didn't, like they just had maybe a video.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah, that's disappointing for the fans, isn't it? Yeah. And it looks like Zayn left in 2015. Did you know that? He left first, yeah. Yeah, okay. And then they're like, well this doesn't work anymore. I think he struggled with it the most.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Had loads of anxiety and stuff. Oh, bummer. Do you really like one of his solo songs actually called Pillow Talk? It's a cracker. Oh, I don't know if I know it. I'll have to listen to it. Pillow talk, we'll go hunting in it. Oh, maybe I have.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like, a bit of a like, yeah, R&B tune. But yeah, I think they're all kind of trying to do solo stuff. I don't know, like from what I read, I feel like Zayn has a bit of a successful solo career in America. Not seen much here from him. But from what I read, it implied that he's quite successful. Niles pretty successful here. Obviously Harry, I think he's globally successful.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I can't blame him. That charisma. And Louise released a couple of songs. I don't think they really did much. And I think Liam was also trying. And again, sort of wasn't that successful. Did have a successful hit with Rita Ora though I think. But that's all I can recall without doing any research. Something about Cheryl I just saw too. Oh yeah, he also had a relationship with Cheryl Cole who was funnily enough a judge on the X Factor when One Direction were together so she was like fully adult, they were still kids. A bit of an age gap between them and they had a relationship years later for a couple of years and had a son named Bear. Oh that is all very much news to me. Oh okay so he's like a
Starting point is 00:20:49 very much news to me. Okay, so he's like, it's hard to not think of them as boys still. Yeah, but he was full grown man and maybe had some demons a little bit going on. Right? Yeah, so I think he's spoken about his drug and alcohol issues before and was sober for a period, but it would seem that he came off the wagon again. There were reports of him being drunk drunk and disorderly in the hotel before he died and he was allegedly escorted back to his room. And then, that's it, he wanted to go in the pool apparently. They wouldn't let him go in the pool because he was too inebriated. So he was escorted back to his room and then a short time later he appears to have fallen or jumped from his balcony and there were mentions that maybe he was trying to jump into the pool from his balcony. However, since then obviously the autopsy has come out and the injuries he died from suggests
Starting point is 00:22:09 that there was no effort to, what's the word? Like defensive? Yeah, like no defensive injuries. Or like bracing. Yeah. So that would indicate that he was unconscious when he fell from the balcony. And I think that in itself raises a few questions. If he was unconscious, how did he fall from the balcony? Um.
Starting point is 00:22:46 One journalist suggested he fainted on the balcony. I mean it's a possibility. It is, but also, like, I guess. But unlikely? I guess I'd want to know how high, because there are certainly guardrails, right? Yeah. Yeah. I guess honestly he stood on the edge of the balcony and then faded. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Mm-hmm. Okay. Did not adopt a reflexive posture to protect himself. Okay. I see what you mean. Right. Mm-hmm. Because people I think naturally... You'd naturally put your arms out but I think... Arms up or I don't know curl up or something right so that's um really fucking sad um I think they they now have arrested three people one was someone at the hotel who was like I guess like chaperoning him um I think they've been charged with like failure to I think they've been charged with like failure to look after someone. Abandonment of a person followed by death. That's it. And supplying and facilitating the use of narcotics.
Starting point is 00:23:56 So the suspects were identified as a companion of pain, a hotel employee who provided cocaine to pain and a drug dealer. But they initially said, and I think they'd have bunked this, that there was a whole slew of substances in his system, but then like the toxicology report hadn't been yet completed at that point. And they didn't disclose any details, but they did find like clonazepam and whiskey in his room, along with several other medications and energy supplements. Mm. I saw the released pictures from his room and it looked like he'd been smoking crack.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Was it destroyed? What, the room? Yeah. Yeah. It had been crashed. Yeah, because I think they had called, someone had called and said this person's like losing a shit in his room. So yeah. And I think I read that like something had happened, like it'd been dropped by his label or
Starting point is 00:24:52 something like that, which may have triggered something. But I think it's really sad because he was always like the mature one of the group and the other older one possibly yeah but he was always the level-headed one that looked after them all and you know the other bandmates have said this that he was always the sensible one and it seems just yeah the world of fame had corrupted him to the point which it resulted in his tragic death basically. Yeah. It's really sad. So when I first was aware of it I think like I just happened to notice that there was trending like One Direction and I or something and I was like oh okay that's weird. Uh it was something enough to make me click on it because if it were just One Direction and I was like, oh, okay, that's weird. It was something enough to make me click on it
Starting point is 00:25:46 because if it were just One Direction and it was like, they must be getting back together, I wouldn't have cared, right? Because again, not a fan. But something made me click on it and then I saw like death and I was like, oh no, did Harry die? And then it was Liam and I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:00 I don't know enough about any of the other ones, I guess, who is this? But it looks like they were all born in 93, except for Louis, who is the oldest and born in 91, so not that much younger than us, I suppose. And then Harry is the youngest born in 94. Oh, I see. Yeah. But it is sad.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I mean, anything like that is always a little bit tragic, particularly when they're that young and we know that like being young and in the famous or kind of in the public eye can really impact people if they don't have good support to like kind of take care of them. And if they're, you know, maybe being taken advantage of in some way. And I don't necessarily mean like sexually or physically, but just like when you're in the industry, I think you get used because people are just out to make money and children, particularly,
Starting point is 00:26:56 or young adults, I think are the most susceptible. So it's not surprising that he, and maybe some of the others do have some struggles like mental health and substance use struggles because I think that's just prevalent, right? Like look at Justin Bieber and given what he might've been exposed to with Diddy, you know? Yeah, fucking hell. There's been a few like, you know, like Cheryl did a post about it and said that he was let down. Sharon Osborne said the same thing and that people need to be held accountable for this
Starting point is 00:27:32 type of thing. So it's potentially opening up that conversation. But I think it's difficult because there's a burden of care if they were still together and still touring and under management and in a record label. But once they're out of that, you know, whose responsibility is it to look after them? Really, they're adults now and I'm sure they had like individual managers and stuff, but they can't be with them all the time. So it's a difficult one companion. I think his then girl or like his current girlfriend was like traveling with him, but I don't know where she was.
Starting point is 00:28:34 She'd gone home like the day before or a couple of days before or something or left. I don't know if she got home. Yeah. And again, like I think if you're paying someone to like be your assistant or companion and stuff, they're going to do what you ask them to. And if it's get me drugs and get me alcohol, they're not going to be like, hey, maybe you shouldn't because you... Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Especially if you're a multimillionaire, do you know what I mean? Money can buy you whatever the fuck you want and you're going to get it somehow. Yeah. Money can buy you whatever the fuck you want and you're gonna get it somehow Yeah, I should think it's the saddest thing is that he's left behind his little boy Seven years old. Yeah Bloody awful, but they have been yeah, they have been I don't say conspiracies, but there's been talk online of You know, was he pushed was there a scuffle in the room? Because he was being so sort of violent and trashing
Starting point is 00:29:34 the room and stuff. And did something untoward happen? Yeah. Well, it sounds like something did, but it might not have been someone intentionally like pranking him. No, they're doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's TMC got photographs of his corpse and it's just also like gross. Yeah, why do they do that?
Starting point is 00:30:03 I guess because people will click on it. But I don't want to see that shit. No, me neither. Yikes. Sad. Thank you for telling me your perspective on that. I was curious. Just because they're Brits. You like music. Not really my bag, but I did feel genuinely sad. Just because it's like, aw, he's so young. And what a tragic way to die, do you know what I mean? It's not like it was a drug overdose or something like that.
Starting point is 00:30:36 He fell from a fucking balcony. I mean, what the fuck? Yeah. Crazy shit. Yep. Should we move on to something a little more uplifting? Yes, that's. Maybe one of those laugh so we don't cry sort of situations. Yeah, let's do that.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. As you recall, there are a lot of things happening over here politically that kind of makes it hard to be a woman in these trying times. But I came across a little listicle of 23 tweets by women that made me, a fellow woman, laugh so hard I almost forgot my rights are on the line now. That's what the author wrote, not me, but I think I could say the same, right? And then it has a little quote under it. That does make me laugh because I do like kettle chips, but kettle chips are great
Starting point is 00:31:29 because the crunch is louder than my thoughts. Need to quiet those thoughts, kettle chips. I like barbecue and salt and vinegar myself. Like the plain ones. Plain are good too to don't get me wrong. Well, you know, when you want a little spice because also you want to burn your mouth. I don't know. And this one. So this next one is kind of regarding, again, Trump and the
Starting point is 00:31:59 fact that he's now starting to point people to his cabinet, and to lead the executive branch agencies that are in charge of all the myriad different things that impact our world and it's not at all concerning at all and it's a basically it says Donald Trump has started appointing people to his cabinet and it officially starts getting dark at 4 p.m. hanging by a thread as an understatement and then it's a little watching Trump appoint his administration like, and then a meme of Tina Fey saying,
Starting point is 00:32:29 what's the committee to reinvade Vietnam? I don't know if you know this, but you know, Elon Musk and another guy, Vivek, I think is his name, I can't remember his last name, are appointed to something that the acronym spells DOGE, like DOGE coin. Oh really? Yeah, and it's like the Department of Government Efficiency or something like that.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Just a new agency, and it's just like, what the fuck? What's going on? And then, you know, Matt Gaetz, I don't know if you've heard of him, but he was a congressman who there was lots and lots of allegations about like sex trafficking and drugs and sex with minors, rape of minors. He was appointed to be attorney general, but he has since withdrew his name from that
Starting point is 00:33:23 because there was, you know, there's a background check. And I think some things came out that we already probably knew, but no one really did anything about, but it maybe revealed some things and they're like, you can't be Attorney General because we're going to have to publish this report. And like, but he withdrew or he like resigned from Congress, which is great because now he's not a congressman anymore. Oh good. Yeah. So some goods come out of it.
Starting point is 00:33:47 So that was kind of a fun little roller coaster ride, but when it was initially, I was like, oh cool, Matt Gaetz, like rapist, pedophile, drug user is going to be the attorney general of the United States. That's amazing. Wow. Shut the front door. Yeah. And then, uh, Robert Kennedy Jr., who was a third party candidate, he was the one who
Starting point is 00:34:09 said, like, I have worms in my brain and I ate a dog and I killed a bear and left it in Central Park. And I think vaccines are bad. Yeah, as we say, he's very anti-vax. Yep. And maybe like anti-sugar. I don't know. I guess I don't know much about that. But he was appointed to the Department of Health and Human Services. So that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem is appointed to the Department of Homeland Security. So that's that's great. This South Dakota governor who basically killed a dog because it didn't listen to her. That was like one of her big things that came out. No. Yeah, like in her book or something, she wrote about having a dog and trying to train it
Starting point is 00:34:57 and it was difficult to train, so she just shot it. What the fuck? Yeah. What's she doing? Homeland Security. Department of Homeland Security. Motherfucking hell. Yep. I think she also, like a lot of states are legalizing marijuana, right? And South Dakota, I think, voted to do so.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And she's just like, no, I'm not doing that. Sorry. I'm not gonna let that happen. But they voted. Yep. And also it's gonna make your state a lot of fucking money, idiot. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:35 My God, she sounds delightful. Yeah, and just so you know, Homeland Security's mission and vision is, with honor and integrity, we will safeguard the American people, our homeland and our values. So. Well her values sound like a crock of shit. Yep. So I'm angry about her killing the dog. Don't know if you can tell.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Yeah, it when that came out it was like what the fuck and then there was speculation that she could be Trump's running mate. This was a while ago. And it was like, well, hopefully that would make it so he wouldn't pick her. But of course, Trump doesn't give a fuck about that shit. So. He has no morals. Yeah. And what else?
Starting point is 00:36:19 I think there was another one too. I mean, there was talks about a Congresswoman named Lauren Boebert being in charge of the Department of Education and that woman didn't graduate high school, failed her GED three or four times. I've heard of her. Is she the blonde one? No, that's like she's her friend but the one you're thinking of is Marjorie Taylor Greene who is, they're the same person in how they act and how stupid they are. Yeah. Lauren was the one who was like caught on film
Starting point is 00:36:52 at a high school play, like jerking off the person she was with or something. What? Yeah. But a lot of the other picks, I think are people who were part of the development of Project 2025 too, if that tells you anything about whether or not he was planning on implementing those things. This is awful.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Like Trump's bad enough, but... Yeah. Wow. Okay. Another one is, if RFK bans Diet Coke, I will make January 6th look like a Girl Scout meeting. That's, I think, January 6th look like a Girl Scout meeting. That's I think something maybe he's talked about. Yeah, he did this, I saw a thing where he was talking about how like, Americans all
Starting point is 00:37:31 eat junk food and that's why everyone's so fat and he's going to make America healthy again. And then like the next day he was on a private plane with Trump, Elon. Eating a fuck ton of McDonald's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What? Yep. Trump's like, knock that shit off. I love me some McDonald's. It's all I eat. I have to wear a diaper, but it's good. It's what makes me so orange. Yep. We laughed, but female body inspector is about to be an official cabinet physician. Do you remember those shirts? You were in those shirts.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Oh my God. Yeah. They're going to come in handy now. You got one. You're automatically a part of it. Yeah. That's what gets you into government positions. Yep.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Did you ever own a putty inspection? Yep. This one really resonated with me. I feel like the day is getting away from me. I hope sitting motionless for the next five hours fixes it. Yep. Can relate to that. Another one.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Meet my alien. So this is a Bloomin' Onion from Outback Steakhouse, which you might not know, but Outback Steakhouse is a chain restaurant, right? It's like Applebee's and Chili's. And they have a Bloomin' Onion, which is, I honestly, I haven't had it in years, so I'd probably be like, this is horrible if I had it now, but I enjoyed it back in the day when I didn't have a refined palette
Starting point is 00:38:59 and there was not a lot of restaurants where I grew up. But it made me laugh because I'm thinking about, yeah, if aliens invaded and were friendly and it was kind of like, oh yeah, I'll show you around. And it's like, this is, this is where you can order from an app and get processed cheeseburgers and fries. And this is where you can, you know, this is where we store all our garbage. That, yeah, that would be mental.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Wouldn't it? These are our nuclear bunkers. We should have a conversation about aliens one day, actually. Oh, okay. Add it to our list. Hey, and it's pretty early. I've been watching loads of documentaries about abductions and stuff. You'll have to fill me in because I avoid that stuff because I don't need to add another fear to my life. No, you don't. But like add another fear to my life.
Starting point is 00:39:45 But I will talk about it with you. But write us your experiences with UFOs if you've gotten me. Yeah, let us know if you've seen it. I saw a video the other day of people in Wales, actually. A tiny little country in the UK. It's freaky as fuck. It was weird. There was something else. But below the clouds. Strange. So I do find some of those stories fascinating. And I can't remember if it was on X slash Twitter, someone talking about hearing from their father-in-law, this experience in Nebraska. I'll see if I can find it for that episode because it was bonkers.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Oh yeah, do. I'll do like two more. I like this one because this is how I feel like I've had this conversation. My boyfriend's friend trying to have a civil and intellectual conversation about the election. I found it surprising and concerning that so many women voted for him. Me after three vodkaOD caluminates, it's because a lot of illiterate bitches hate themselves for being women. Oh God. Okay, last one.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So you know Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, right? And he's a football player. Okay. People are saying things about Taylor ruining football. So you know Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, right? And he's a football player. OK. People are saying things about Taylor ruining football. So this tweet says, Taylor ruined football. Good. I hope she ruins everything men love, and I hope she burns it all to the ground.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yes, go Taylor. Yeah. Yeah. I was really hoping she would be the key in the election turning out differently because I think she got like a fuck ton of people to register to vote particularly. She like, QR codes at her concerts and I think when she kind of came out with her endorsement like there was like this huge uptick in voter registration but, meh. Do you know, I think Taylor Swift is actually a really nice person.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Everything I read about her, like she does some really fucking decent shit. I don't like her music, but she does lots of just like, and not public stuff. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, she goes under the radar and gives like a shit ton of money to people who need it. And I can't give you any examples off the top of my head because I've forgotten them all. I read things and I'm like, you know what? I think she's alright. Yeah. I feel like I've heard similar things too and I don't know if I ever thought she was like probably a shitty person but you do hear about like celebrities that actually are assholes in real life and I always question those because it's like, well, what were you doing to maybe deserve that response?
Starting point is 00:42:28 But there are people who just genuinely do suck as people. But I think for her, she, she gets a bad rap for being like this scorned woman. But I think she actually does try to like uplift people and be helpful and, and use her money and fame for good and not brag about it. You're right. So. Yeah. Talking of celebrities that aren't very nice in real life, apparently Ellen DeGeneres is moving to the UK since Trump got elected. I mean, while I can understand that, it's also like have fun with her.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I know. Yay for us, great. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if she's got, I mean, her show is no longer being filmed or aired, but I think she's sort of got... Oh, is it actually finished? Yeah, I think if you see it on TV, it's just old ones. I don't think they're making anymore, but yeah, I think she kind of got cancelled because she's a bit of a dick. Yes, I heard the rumors that were going round. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Ah. So yeah, some fun tweets by funny women about the state of affairs. And again, if you just need a little moment to yourself and you need to quiet those thoughts, kettle chips. Kettle chips are really crunchy, even more so if you pop them in the freezer. Hey, and they're so good that way.
Starting point is 00:43:45 But you're right, they have a little extra crunch. Well, I guess that takes us to an M.R.E. the Al's hole. You know we all are, baby. Yeah. Now it's the question of, did you have a good reason to be? Yeah. Now it's the question of, did you have a good reason to be? Yeah. Because sometimes you do. What are the circumstances surrounding your asshole-ishness?
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah. Yeah. Why is it, like, I don't hear from fucking anyone. Ever. As soon as we start recording, my phone is, all the group chats, like people haven't heard from for years, Facebook messenger, I'm getting text messages, what's going on? They have a sense. Oh yeah, I guess one of the group chats, yeah, I got one of those too. That'll be a lesson in you now starting to put do not disturb on, I guess, because.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I have. Oh, it's. It's not working. I don't know what's going on. This happened last time as well. Anyway. People, we're trying to create. Trying to create content.
Starting point is 00:44:59 God. Okay. I don't think do Not Disturb stops WhatsApp. We might just need to turn off the notifications. Maybe. Yeah. Annoying. Anyway. Am I the asshole telling my mum she'll never have grandkids because of how she voted? I already pepped my mind up I think so. You need to hear no more. Yep. Okay important info. My parents and I, in brackets only child,
Starting point is 00:45:38 live in a state with very restrictive reproductive health laws. restrictive reproductive health laws. In summer of 23 I, a female 30 years old, came off birth control because of some pretty bad side effects. My spouse who's 33 and male and I were having, sorry, were always ambivalent about kids. We figured if it happened it happened and if not parenthood just wasn't for us. Fast forward to the holidays of 23. While visiting my in-laws out of state, I was rushed to the ER bleeding out internally with what turned out to be a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. For fuck's sake, can't read. I underwent emergency surgery where they stopped the bleeding
Starting point is 00:46:28 but I did lose my right fallopian tube. After this, I went back on birth control and had my doctor do a full workup before my spouse and I decided next steps. The workup revealed a large benign tumor on my remaining tube as well tube, as well as significant uterine fibroids. I was told that any pregnancy I had would be high risk and that carrying to term was not as likely but also not impossible. Given the diagnosis and that my state has now caused the need for a legal team's input for providing
Starting point is 00:47:16 emergency abortions in the case of a mother's health being in jeopardy, wankers, I decided to move forward with the removal of my uterus and remaining tube instead of risk death a second time. Fair enough. The surgery occurred the day after the election and I am recovering well physically, still working on the emotional side. My mum, who really fell down the MAGA pipeline in the last two years, called me a few days ago for a monthly catch-up. I had not told her or anyone besides my best friend and spouse about the procedure
Starting point is 00:47:56 because I wanted to come to terms with my decision before having to explain it to others. Fair play. She went off on a long rant about how the new government will be great for families and when she becomes a grandma and that a national abortion ban would save so many lives of unborn babies. I completely lost it and screamed at her that she would never become a grandma and it's because of how she and those like her voted. I told her I had to have everything
Starting point is 00:48:26 removed so that I couldn't become pregnant and actually die this time. I hung up after that and had a breakdown. My dad, who is not MAGA, called me a few days ago to let me know that he was sorry that I had to make this decision and that he hoped I healed, but that I couldn't talk to my mom like that and needed to apologize. Personally, I don't want to apologize for what I said. I will apologize for how I said it but I really don't think that I'm that much of an asshole at the end of the day. So, am I the asshole? It's one of those things where, yeah, I think we could reflect on maybe conflict where, yeah, I think we could reflect on maybe conflict or conversations that deteriorate and we inescalate and recognize that we could have done things differently. But I also think that it's kind of unreasonable when the conversation, the other person kind
Starting point is 00:49:20 of either says things like that are inflammatory or ignorant or offensive and it's the reaction is understandable because I don't think it's like talking about racism for example if you're someone a person of color and you're getting you know racist efforts shouted at you like I don't expect you to be like now now let's have a reasonable conversation about this you know Shouted at you like I don't expect you to be like now now. Let's have a reasonable conversation about this, you know, yeah and To have that surgery even if you were kind of like pretty Solid on your decision to do so because of the risks or maybe you didn't want children to have someone tell you you know, basically like
Starting point is 00:50:04 You the thing that would have maybe let you die is gonna be so great. It's gonna be so great that we can't do that even though it saved your life and blah, blah, blah. Like to have a kind of an emotional response to that is understandable. And I think that's kind of, we talked about this in the last episode when people are saying things and believe things and feel like certain laws or rules
Starting point is 00:50:27 should either be put in place or withdrawn. For things that actually have no impact on them directly or for, you know, because of their gender, like men who have thoughts about this, I find really upsetting because it's like, it's not even something you have to deal with but someone you love might have to that they can't even fathom oh you know maybe if my daughter, my friend, my mother, my cousin had died because they couldn't get access to this care because of
Starting point is 00:51:02 not because they you know necessarily wanted an abortion but because they had't get access to this care because of not because they necessarily wanted an abortion, but because they had a pregnancy issue like that or a spontaneous miscarriage, which are called abortions in the medical field anyway, even if it is a miscarriage, just FYI. Really? That's the medical term for it, unfortunately. And because of that, I think that also gets a bad rap. People are like, you can't help that you're miscarrying. I forgot where I was going with this, but basically, no, I don't think this person's an asshole.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And I think it's unfortunate that her father's like, you gotta apologize to your mom because it's kinda like, sure, I could have been calmer, but I just had the surgery, I almost died. And basically what mom told me was, she's so glad that this national abortion ban is gonna happen because then, you know, had I had this issue after that, I would have died.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And she basically said she was glad, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And it just makes me, oh, I just, I just, ugh. For those people who feel that way, like. Fuck you. That, and once you have someone in your life that you care about or yourself has to experience the really horrible things that you want other people
Starting point is 00:52:20 to have to go through because you believe like something about immigration or fetuses. Like I hope you have a reckoning with your words and you know, in your beliefs. Yeah, this is what I can't get my head around is the why fetuses or unborn child's life is more important than someone who's already alive. I can't understand the reasoning with that. I can't wrap my head around why that's okay for a mother to die from a medical condition due to a complication with a pregnancy. It's so hypocritical too.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Killing the child that hasn't even taken a breath yet. That couldn't even if it was born. Exactly. Where's the logic in that? Where's the sense? I just can't. It's just fucking mental. But if we were to say that that bundle of cells should have the ability to have like its own health insurance or
Starting point is 00:53:26 you know try to give it if we're gonna say it has rights but it doesn't have the full scope of rights that's it's just very hypocritical and also once it's born no one gives a fuck about it. Exactly. You know the mum dies then we'll just pop it into care. Everyone has to pay for it. Underfunded systems. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:50 It's just, yeah, it makes no fucking sense to anyone listening who thinks it does, please explain to me how that makes any fucking sense. Yep. It doesn't. You're idiots. I agree. I don't know why there's this belief that there's people out there who just are happy to and at every chance they can go get an abortion because they love killing babies.
Starting point is 00:54:15 No one's doing that fucking willingly. No. Do you know what I mean? I don't think there's probably one woman on the planet that's happily gone to go and get an abortion and, you know, gets pregnant on purpose for the joy of getting an abortion. Or is just using it as a form of birth control. That's not a thing.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yeah, like, no. It's madness if you think that way, quite frankly. Yeah. Back to this person being an asshole, I feel like no, or fully justified in having that asshole response anyway, like I said earlier, like maybe we are all assholes, the question is whether or not
Starting point is 00:54:58 there's a legitimate reason to be. I don't know, how do you feel? Yeah, I feel the same. I don't know the tone in which it was delivered and maybe it could have been, as you said, you know, delivered in a nicer way. But why should it? Because ultimately her mum is part of the problem that has caused this to happen. She wouldn't have had that surgery had these abortion ban laws not been applied in her state or in her country. So deal with the fucking consequences of your own decision mum. Unlucky. Yeah. What are the comments like?
Starting point is 00:55:45 Similar? Yeah. Not the asshole. The mum broke it. She bought it. She owns the consequences. Yeah. Basically what you just said.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I'm child three. Child, child three. I'm on child three. I'm child free, which I thought was by choice, but I found out my uterus had been ratchet for the last decade spent in my body. Sorry, that's just a really funny way to refer to it. As someone who spent my thirties bleeding out for 10 out of every 24 days because of fibroid. I think your long-term health is grateful for the compassionate choice you made. I don't know how to word it other
Starting point is 00:56:32 than to say that I think you may have saved yourself a lot of unpleasant struggle. Being so weak as you pass out if you stand up too quickly is no way to live if you know what I mean. So many women in our era are not having babies. We're in great company. You still have the option to foster or adopt and there are fair babies too. I'm sorry the choice was removed from your control. That's always frustrating, especially when it's our bodies. I hope you find peace and have a speedy recovery too. Not the asshole. I would not apologize to my mom either. By the way, my mom also voted for Trump. She lives in Florida so I keep trolling her about NOAA getting defunded. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I also asked her if she was going to bid on any national parks when they go up for sale. Highly recommend trolling of Trump parents. Reason don't work, get your giggles or ignore entirely. Oh, it's the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. So basically like, you're fucked mom, you live in Florida and now you're not going to have hurricanes, like alerts and shit like that. So have fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Well, there we have it folks. As we said, if you know, if you did vote for Trump and have strong opinions on these laws, I genuinely would like to hear you. Let's have a debate. Let's have a conversation. Email us at Talkshit2us at gmail.com or at tsybpod. or at T-S-Y-B pod. It was good talking to you. And you. What can people look forward to next time, maybe? Well, I think next time we're gonna have a little chat about AI taking over the world.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And what that means for us. And then maybe embarrassing shit that people can't stop thinking about years later. And if you've got something that you've done that's really embarrassing, again, send it in, we'll read it out, we'll keep you anonymous. Um, but you could be on a podcast. How exciting. Maybe I'll share some of my embarrassing shit. I'll have a think about mine.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I think mine are too embarrassing for public. Yeah, probably. I'll see if I can pull another one out of the nether regions of my mind. Yeah, I'm sure that's a few more. All right, until next time. Until next time. Toodle-oo. Oh, we nearly did the same thing.
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