Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - April 2022

Episode Date: May 4, 2022

Spring has fully sprung and we've got tons to chat about in the world of Simpsons! We chat about a couple of recent eps that changed up some history, celebrate an anniversary, eulogize Gilbert Gottfried, and lots more. Then we dig into our own fun we've had over the last month, then wrap things up by responding to many of our fave Patreon comments (including following up on Slap Discourse we missed out on). Listen now before we put the heat to the meat! Support this podcast and get over 100 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the new official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

I heartily endorse this event or product. I do not fear any other Bobs, even Bob Chapek, unlike some people. And who's here with me today? Fresh off of my 40 seconds on the Coachella stage, Henry Gilbert. And yes, in case you're new to us, welcome. This is our community podcast. It comes out once a month at the end of the month for patrons, at the beginning of the month for people on the free feed. And in this podcast, we talk about what's happening in the Simpsons world and in our world.

And then we respond to your questions and comments from the last month's worth of episodes. And it is a slightly lighter month than the last few months, but there's still plenty to talk about. And the first news item we have, I think there were like, what, three or four new episodes last time? Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, there is one more new episode this month, but we are recording this a couple days earlier than usual so just in case if any news breaks after 4 20 well guys we're we're in a 4 20 break that's that's why we're not we're recording this about a week earlier than we normally do and we'll tell you why later yes but yeah there were two new episodes so far this month as opposed to like the five new episodes we we talked about last time and the first one i believe the first one to air was uh the sound of bleeding

gums is that correct uh no pretty well okay was was the first for some reason i watched that one second i don't know why but yes let's talk about pretty little liar and it's all about uh brandine finally after 700 and uh whatever episodes there's an episode all about brandine though she has featured into a few plots yes yeah though it's funny i was so i watched that one and i kept waiting for like okay guys you've done that she is related to him either as his mother cletus's mother or sister or aunt sometimes so i was like okay how far do we in this episode where we want you to feel real emotion for brandy how far would the incest joke do you go and they go to cousins in this one yeah uh kissing cousins yes it's still

a lot of fun antiquated hee-haw jokes i wonder what a zoomer would think of these and you know what there's some really good i don't know what was going on with the animators that week but there's like sometimes when cletus is given like a speech like when he's on the thresher giving the speech to brandy i noticed yeah there's some really good animation there like he has a lot and also homer's big speech at the end too uh but it also was like i don't know it was the usual side character moves in with the simpson story and then on top of that like both the lisa and homer subplots were familiar of previous classic subplots yeah uh yeah there was a lot going on in this episode there were three plots and not one of them received enough attention and yeah they

were uh reminiscent of older plots and uh i wanted to hear more about brandy and what's her life like yeah instead it's like lisa is in a secret smart club which is not as funny as the excelsior club that bart was a member of ever so briefly and i can detect the presence of algin and my grace because this episode had a spartacus parody yeah and the next episode has a uh driving miss daisy parody which they would have done on the critic like 30 years ago yeah that's their trademark like two old movie parodies i think it's kind of cute you know and it's the gary shandling show they did a full episode parody of uh driving miss daisy really wow that was that was technically the last episode of the series yeah so no what's unfortunate with that though is like when they did that for 30 something

years ago they were doing it about recent movies and they're not really doing that about recent movies anymore it's just i mean it also was about old movies they did critic had spartacus jokes yes more than one i love you spartacus exactly oh that's right he's hopping on his crucifix yeah but uh you know it was okay but yeah this one and the second one both had a little of the gene feel to it as opposed to the selman feel which i do think i've been generally preferring the selman episodes of this new season for sure oh like uh digging up Bleeding Gums Murphy for more tears? Yeah, I just can't. Guys, come on now.

It's funny. I'm just thinking about how old the show is in that the original voice of Bleeding Gums Murphy died over 20 years ago. And canonically, he died in 1995, which is almost 30 years ago. But also, Lisa can't age. So it had to be like in the last year when he died like there's still age there are funny jokes in this that uh i don't think they're calling attention to that fact but um at one point the ghost of bleeding gums tells lisa check the phone book

and she says what's a phone book and then later she talks about a web page and he says what's a web page so like uh lisa if she if she was born in like 1980, she should know what a phone book is. But folks, she was born in let's think about it. What? Two thousand fourteen. Yeah. Late. Soon there'll be a Lisa that was never alive for the Obama administration.

Wow. That's how young she's written to be. But the one cool thing is that it was the the first deaf actor on the show. And that is John Autry, the second. And he's doing voice acting on the show. And there's a total of six deaf actor on the show, and that is John Autry II, and he's doing voice acting on the show, and there's a total of six deaf actors in the episode, and I didn't know who replaced Ron Taylor, but apparently it is Kevin Michael Richardson,

who does a very, very good imitation of Ron Taylor's original voice. Yeah, yeah. It was, he, Kevin Michael Richardson, he's, again, one of the best. Like, they're very, it's very lucky for the Simpsons that they had been using him for a while on the show and that, you know, then they were like, hey, we need about a dozen

people to have new voices on the show. All black characters. Do we have a black actor who can do a million voices? And they got Kevin Michael Richardson, who can? Yeah. And he's playing Hibbert, of course. And I detected Don Lewis on this one as well yes yeah that's right no i but he did a really good bleeding gums i i did like that lisa's dream

at the start of the episode was in the sd format and they were trying to draw it season one ish about her like memories on the bridge with bleeding gums that that was a good bit there yeah that fooled me at first i thought it was old animation until they actually cut to the close-ups and i was like oh this is digital but it did feel like they were at least using like oh let's use some of the season one mouth charts even on this shot here yeah and and now uh john autry the second like he did a very good job as a monk his uh son she didn't know about and and yeah they they cast a lot more than just him they they had incidental roles for uh deaf actors in it as well i think it was good i think too it was it did seem a little inspired by those viral videos going around of the person who hears the

first thing they've ever heard kind of thing i thought of that too yeah yeah which i mean hey rip it from the headlines instead of uh a like Spartacus from 1963 or whatever. Yeah, this is the one with the Driving Miss Daisy parody in it. I think what made it better than it could have been is that it collides with the Green Book parody, which I thought was pretty cute. You know, okay, so there, that's it making fun of only four-year-old movies? Four, I think, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, two new episodes, and guess what, folks?

There's a new short short and I was wrong. I thought it would be promoting the newest Star Wars crap they're making, but it's not. It's promoting Billie Eilish. And as I tweeted before, look at Lisa. She's Eilish. No, it's by the time this episode comes out, you'll have seen it. It's just a short, though. Yeah.

Fortunately for us, it's just a short. I saw some people. Yeah. though yeah fortunately for the for us it's just the short i saw some people uh yeah the one article i found about it was framing it as just like uh lots of fans saying oh this is just the lisa goes gaga all over again which is not a good episode at all everybody hates it but then again if you could just that was back when if lady gaga said i'll do your show they have to write a whole goddamn episode about it in this case if billy eilish is like yeah i like simpsons let me do that she can just do like a four minute thing

that doesn't have to poison an entire episode with like star worship you know yeah and the second this was announced i was like well they're promoting something and i just typed in billy eilish disney and yeah she had a a concert movie in 2021 she probably has an overall deal with Disney oh I would bet so I got no beef with Eilish her songs are fine but then I looked up her like background it's like oh she was born wealthy and didn't actually go to school and got to sit around and be creative her entire life and that's why she's an Oscar winner yeah hey you know it's uh lucky for her hey yeah pretty pretty it's funny how that keeps happening with famous people I we're about to record a podcast with Richard Gere in it today.

And I was like, oh, hey, what's the deal with that daughter he referenced? Oh, of course she's in movies now. Yeah, of course she is. Well, you know, she seems to be doing good with her privilege. I'll say that at least. I just like whenever you look up like a new famous person, you're like, well, where did they come from? It's like, oh, their mom was an opera singer. Their dad was a model.

And they met on like a movie set. And it's just like, well, of of course that's why they're famous when you have all that privilege i at least hope you help yeah other people say you know struggling podcasters you just need some exposure but i uh and you know me me and uh your your wife a vaunted simpsons artist agree that the billy eilish drawing in the ads for this does look good like it's a good caricature of her in Simpsons style. I just, I can just write this short in my head. Yes, yeah. And you know how it's going to go, too.

But you know what? It'll be less offensive than the Star Wars one or the, what was the Loki one? There's Loki and then Plusiversary, the entire umbrella of Disney+. This is at least just like, yeah, you're right. It is worshipful of one star yeah just like hey you're a celebrity let's be worshipful of you i'll take that over uh promoting marvel stuff you know brands perhaps yes yeah i i hope so too man yeah i and again it's just i feel bad like it is what David Silverman, again, just is spending his time on. It's really too bad.

I wish he did. I wish he did better than that. But so up next, we have a shocking news item. Now, one of our patrons and listeners, their hacker alias is a rubber cat and they have a great Simpsons news site. Just go to rubbercat.net slash Simpsons. And this is where you find the Simpsons news. The mainstream media won't tell you about it.

Or should I say lamestream media? Yeah, I'll say it. You should. Lamestream. You're right. And in the midst of all of this, you know, Disney versus Florida stuff, there was a little write up about it in The Hollywood Reporter. And in that article, it was said that in the simpsons offices there was like a little jokey

cartoon with bob chapek in the oscars in memoriam section a segment just like a little joke like oh his career's over yeah because he bob chapek as the head of disney has pissed off a lot of people and there's been multiple articles including that hollywood reporter one about uh how he's not doing as good as bob eiger did before him and and and also a lot of different disney employees uh taking shots at him and that right up in the hollywood reporter thing was like uh that's just the kind of ribald thing i'd expect from the simpsons it's not even that scathing it's just like oh how cheeky they drew like a funny cartoon about their uh mega billionaire boss who they don't like which you know they put rupert murdoch in the show as a prisoner yes before they've

always made fool when they were on fox when they were owned by fox they had the fox jokes were constant but uh because of this there was an official response signed off by james l brooks matt graining al jean and matt Selman saying that cartoon did not exist. Nobody tarnished the good name of Bob Chapek. So the official statement says, quote, for the sake of the simple truth, no notice concerning Bob Chapek has been on the walls of any Simpsons office. Since March 2020, all of our work has been done remotely due to COVID. Nobody has been in the offices for two years now. do miss the snack room they wrote in a joint statement and apparently uh this is unquote by the way the source who spoke to the hollywood reporter said the circulated cartoon was in fact subsequently

taken down oh man so i'm guessing maybe the writers offices aren't up and running but people are in the animation office i'm reading between the lines on that. Yeah, that the animation offices, I would guess out of Bento box is how it's been. Those in Burbank probably have opened back up again, perhaps. And that's also like that kind of notice sounds like a cartoonist drew it, not something when the writers did. I do believe the top brass when they say,

we don't even have an office. We wouldn't make fun of JPEG say we don't even have an office we didn't we wouldn't make fun of jpeg we don't even have office but the fact that they felt they had to comment on that really it sounds like somebody got a phone call yeah you know that shows how uh cowed they are and i'm kind of disappointed i mean if you're asking like why do they keep making all these shorts look how terrified they are yeah of their boss i mean disney they're just way i mean they can they could just take it back from the gracie film they want gracie i would think wants to stay good with disney uh and i'm sure they also were thinking well maybe what i'm just thinking of there there will come a day when james l brooks is no longer in charge of the simpsons like and

somebody else will be put in charge and they want to be friendly with the person who will make that decision of who stays in charge of the Simpsons after you know movie mega producer James L Brooks releases his grasp on it geez yeah I it just the days of the Simpsons being able to bite the hand that feeds them are long gone it really makes me upset and uh how who knows how long it'll be until the disney jokes are taken out of old episodes i will they be that vindictive i i feel like it could happen you know i feel like it could and then like again you think about like when dave merkin was in charge he did those he did those bits about like we can't watch fox because they own chemical plants

in syria that's right like yeah they would never I feel like they'd never do a joke like that now. Absolutely. Even in recent ones I've seen them take shots at other streaming giants that are sharp even like in the Simple Flanders one they did a big attack or they were mocking of Netflix and I thought it was funny but also netflix is like disney's greatest rival right now in the streaming so disney's probably like yeah make fun of netflix make all the netflix jokes you want yeah that in the end it helps our bottom line really yeah so i mean there was so much crap on disney plus and so much crap about disney to make fun of and it feels like they just can't do it i know and it's really too bad because like there's people who run things that are not

half as big as the simpsons like say the owl houses dana terrace or uh the matt braley the creator of amphibia they are much more open of like yeah disney sucks like or or at the very least i disagree with disney's position uh with the queer stuff and they need to get better at it well meanwhile something as big as simpsons they put out it's the i feel like that's their only statement on shake peck is just their way of saying we were not making fun of him we just need you to know this no one put out a cartoon that was not even mildly offensive that was the that was the comment there so yeah the four of these guys signed off on it come on yeah i know come on now that's the kind of state that kind of joint statement like that happens when they remove the michael jackson

cartoon yeah so do you know yeah geez but yeah thanks to rubber cat again that is uh rubbercat.net slash simpsons if you want to check out that new site and more more fun from rubber cats one of our patrons thank you more in the news dann Elfman was at Coachella. Is it Coachella or Coachella? You know, I heard Bugs Bunny say Coachella River Valley, but maybe it is Coachella. I've heard everybody else say Coachella. I've heard both. I'll stick with Coachella.

But he was at Coachella looking quite buff. He's got a lot of strange tattoos these days, too. I don't know what, you know, he's far past midlife crisis. But yeah, he's like, he's going shirtless't know what you know he's he's far past midlife crisis but yeah he's like i'm he's going shirtless showing off all his crazy tattoos his his shock of red hair still as shocking as ever yeah and he played the simpsons theme and that's uh i clicked on the tweet and it's gone now because it was removed by a copyright holder so i'll take your word for it yeah i know so uh he did he also i believe did you know, did some of his classic songs, too, but also some Nightmare Before

Christmas songs, some bits of the Pee Wee's Big Adventure theme. And then, yes, he did a about two minute long Simpsons theme rendition. It starts regular for about 30, 40 seconds, then a a rock in middle where he pulls up guitar and he's and also he has a whole like um like seven or eight ladies behind him doing the da da da da and as well saying the simpsons so yeah it was fun it was fun i mean i i he was only doing that for the richest of people who can afford that coachella every year uh i i can't do outdoor concerts anymore now i though i'll tell you i was kind of jealous that i because i would have loved to have seen danny

elfman do that live and i bet when's the next time he's going to play the simpsons theme in front of anybody but i was most jealous of all the things i saw that happened to that festival uh last week it was seeing that utada hikaru did a session in there as well. They sang a bunch of songs, including Simple and Clean, the English version, which I am hopeful that that means that Utada will do more dates in America now that things have opened back up again, perhaps. And now that Kingdom Hearts 4 was announced. That's right, Bob.

It was announced. We got to see Sora's feet. Sora's a growing boy, and he has normal feet, no more giant shoes. He's got a nice apartment. And you'll see that game in about seven years, folks. Look forward to it. But hey, at the very least, I bet it won't be a cross-gen game again. I bet it'll actually just be on the PS5 in 2028.

By that time, it'll be two years into the PS6 library. Well, yes, of course. And good luck finding one. So yeah, that happened at Coachella. And we have some sad news about animation because for some reason, beloved cartoon superstars Greg Daniels and Mike Judge, they're executive producing a lot of things, I'll say. So I don't know how much of a hand they have in this. But the famed card game exploding kittens is going to be

a netflix series and it is also being a mobile game being turned into a mobile game because netflix is getting into the mobile game space because i don't know if you saw the news henry oh yeah they lost 200 000 subscribers oh no that's right they got to start diversifying you know but i aren't they getting into podcasts wasn't that happening uh they definitely they've been hiring people for podcasts for like two years now, I think. Yeah, I haven't heard of an actual Netflix podcast. But yeah, I mean, obviously Netflix, they've... As of today's recording, thanks to that negative business news, it's like, oh no,

expansion can't happen endlessly with a business. It's all over. But yeah, I mean, greg daniels and mike judge started that new production company i expected them to do a few things but they are like this this feels like it's like not counting the rumored king of the hill return this feels like the seventh thing i've heard them sign on for yeah i i hope they're not uh overburdening themselves and also just announced the king of the hill already no i mean this is no i mean i don't want to be too negative because i've never seen this but no one's going to care about this

uh well it reminds me of like coupon the movie like you've you played the card game now watch the cartoon you know i of all of the millennial uh party games i there's worse than exploding kittens it's true i mean what's the what's the more worse one of cards against humanity that's the shit and like every variant of that we're like this is a really racist one i know it's just like come on guys here you're you're in private let's just say a dirty thing it's like at the very least with i've played a couple games of exploding kittens and it's fun to just but again it's it's also what i why you need to have a good crew for that, just like you would with, say, any of the Jackbox games. Because it so easily just falls into like, I'm sucking my dick or whatever.

It just did. You know, you got to let's play a little bit higher, guys. Well, they're going to have some top class writers on board here. So they'll be batting a much they'll be aiming for a much higher class of joke i think but again it's like yeah it's uh man it will it sounds like it'll also be like an interactive kind of thing like there's uh that they do have been doing more of that i mean that whole netflix it's been out of the other netflix stuff yeah it's like they also say rumored in that same piece about their poor financials or their worst financials was like uh they're gonna look into

an ad model with like that a lower subscription fee no and they're gonna arrest all you password sharers out there yeah i know how dare we share a password it's actually netflix for me netflix is the only one i don't share a password with almost all the others i signed in when every time i visit my mom i'm like okay are you up to date with all this stuff but they actually have netflix so i don't share a password for that one they're just netflix is flailing it whatever they can get you know and especially original things that are based on something else you know instead of because disney uh nbc all these companies took away their legacy stuff so they just have to go like, well, what else is popular? Cuphead?

We could get Cuphead. Let's do that. Will that be big? I'm reading the statement by Mike Moon, who is the head of adult animation on Netflix. And I know it's his job to be positive, but this statement sounds insane. We couldn't think of a better game to build a universe around than Exploding Kittens, one of the most inventive, iconic, and original games of the century. Netflix is the perfect place to explore this growing franchise and we are so fortunate

to be working with an incredible team. So there you have it. The words of an insane person. I can hear every exclamation point. It's full of exclamation points. I mean it's exploding kittens. Who can't be excited about that? Gonna go to hell for that one guys. Boy we're being real jerks today.

Just announce the new kick of the hill please also for daniels and judd it's like uh this all of this like shepherding of stuff from one angle it's good uh in that they are it seems like a lot of people uh who are gonna actually be the showrunners might not get a chance otherwise if they weren't being you know shepherded by judge and daniels perhaps but on the other side it's like guys don't you have enough money how many things do you have to be like executive producer on that is not probably not getting your full attention you got to find jobs for your kids too

yes they need to work too every kid is growing up it's uh it sucks man it's same with even with even with a guy like bob odenkirk who i love it's like boy really you gotta do a thing with your son nathan i'm sure he's funny but how about he how about he write a thing on his own yeah really yeah or just bask in the odenkirk riches but i will say hey exploding kittens prove us wrong yeah i dare you be hilarious yeah prove me wrong children and uh more in animation news uh this came up around the oscars because the presentation for the best animated feature the presentation for that award was very snarky uh i believe the presenters were like you know those annoying ass movies your kids won't stop watching we got to

give them award for some reason and and same with uh around that same time in the presentation co-host uh amy schumer also went like i don't know anything about incanto except my kid or my kid makes me watch it all the time or my nephew does or whatever yeah i am with phil lord and chris miller going like fuck this yeah and like this is not it's 2022 and you're still doing bits about like this dumb thing for kids cartoons i guess like it reminds me of like those awful spike tv video game awards when all the jokes were like hey losers at home in your fucking basements aren't you all a goddamn virgin you loser and it was like 2010 or something just like i'm 38 years old not me but other people

and uh i like video games what's wrong with you i've got a family why did i tune into this thing to be told yeah i think you know, Jeff Keighley, maybe that's part of his long con, though, that he let the bar be so low on shitty jokes on those game awards that when he took it off of Spike, he's like, see how prestigious this is now? Now it's just a bunch of commercials. I've had enough of that man for one lifetime.

I mean, he's so inoffensive, maybe that's the problem. And it's like, as soon as E3 was announced,. And it's like, as soon as E3 was announced, this is video game stuff, as soon as E3 was announced, he like just basically posted a picture of himself with his eyebrow raised. Like, what if I did something?

He's like, I see enough of you. Yeah, well, too bad. Go away. I think you're going to see more of him at the Summer Game Fest. What if I had best friends in the video game industry?

You know, you should have worked harder on having best friends with him, Bob. And I'm sure he's, I'm sure he's legitimately very close with, you know, Hideo Kojima and Miyazaki and all that. Yeah. They're best friends.

They're best friends. I was going to say, like, I think this attitude would not be around as much if different kinds of animated movies could be made. In America, especially. Like, I think Lord and Miller are really really branching out but everything has to be by default a family movie yes or like you make sausage party there's i'm repeating what i said on like a billion other podcasts but like make the pg-13 animated movie yes make the crime animated movie make the horror animated movie well and also like mitchell's in the machines that they did was really pushing it like i don't know if you watch but it's like it's a it's a hard pg i would say it is not as kid focused as or as appealing to the all ages audience like

incanto luca and ryan the last dragon but you know the fifth one of those that was nominated it was you know a it was adult it was called flee and it was about a about an Afghani gay man trying to leave his country. Like, it is an adult story. So to do that even on the same broadcast, like, that was gross. Yeah. Like, in America, it's not happening, obviously, but in, like, Japan and other countries. Oh, and anime never gets nominated at all on this thing. It's like, we gave you one.

Go away. You know, meanwhile, we have, like, three. Oh, Disney and Pixar at least have to be three out of five on this thing. No, I mean, that was what Lord and Miller was already like kind of beating the drum about before the award ceremony as part of the campaign for Mitchell's versus the machines was of saying like, you know, does it always have to be Disney? Does it always have to be a Disney or Pixar thing? Like you, you already let Spider-Verse win.

How about you give us another one of ours a chance? And, and I think too, that they are successful enough of film of producers now in Hollywood who have their own like factory of, of, of comedy, live action and animation that they actually can go to bat for animation. And, and also probably because they personally felt slighted but hey that's if that is the thing that drives them to yeah to do a whole article in variety about it then go right ahead i say that's it's the right thing to do that animated features category has always been dumb and i'm glad other people managed to get awards out of it but it was just created

because when beauty and the beast won the oscar the academy was like this could never happen again yeah this we have to prevent this was happening. Make the ghetto for animation. They can have their own little award. Maybe we'll even air it. Yeah. They always want to dumb down animation, take it away. I mean, too.

Yeah. It's just, I like that it started a whole new conversation on it. Because yeah, like Disney, when they make the live action versions of their animated classics, they're like, see, this is the real one. Finally, this is the prestigious version of Beauty and the Beast you should have always had in true live action when it's not even live action. No, no. What a disaster. Yeah.

But yeah, hopefully. And that was the only interesting thing that happened at the Oscars. Yes. Nothing else happened. No one was arrested or committed assaults. Moving on. We're recording it on the day, by the way. It's Tuesday, April 19th, right here. or committed assaults. Moving on, we're recording it on the day, by the way.

It's Tuesday, April 19th, right here. And this is officially the 35th anniversary of the debut of The Simpsons on television because the weird short that Troy McClure didn't like, Goodnight Simpsons, originally aired via the Tracy Ullman Show on April 19th, 1987. 35 years. Holy cow, man. It's impossible to imagine. i can't believe it like i'll tell

you 35 years before that was 1952 oh boy yeah no i i don't like hearing that but yeah i i think that i i was saying this on twitter today but i do wish that the shorts were more available i think that and in no small part thanks to one of my favorite episodes but the 139th episode spectacular i think did set kind of the tone of like yeah these suck actually or they're the show it didn't look as good so it's like uh they wanted to show you it's a curiosity at best yeah yeah one it doesn't help that like matt graining or whoever doesn't want people to see the shorts. And aside from the few bits that appear in that clip show, there's really basically none

of the shorts available anywhere officially. I mean, Disney Plus could do good for Simpsons fans for once and say, guess what, guys? We have the shorts now. They're a different category. Go watch them all. It's a part of history. I mean, it could. I said this on the bart

stahl gets an f episode but i always wonder if the situation with tracy ullman is partially to do with it that they'd have to pay tracy ullman and somebody's still mad that she sued fox for simpsons money so they don't want to pay her more money i feel like it could be just a grudge that james l brooks has or Matt Gerani has or somebody has against her saying, I don't want this woman to get a dime after what she put us through. Yeah. Or it could also be, you know, it was Klasky Chupo that animated it. They could also have a piece of it.

Nobody wants Gobbler Chupo to have some money. I mean, all their episodes are on the Disney Plus though, you know, so I don't know why they would have a special deal. Yeah. I really don't know. We've never heard enough of this. I, at the very least though i've really i i take pride that we have dug into those shorts more than most people do and that you know

i think we even unlearn some biases ourselves about those shorts because we just had fuzzy memories of them and then once you finally watch me like oh this is just like a bunch of fun cartooning is it yeah is it a perfectly written like sitcom like no it's a funny cartoon that makes you laugh it's like uh animated life in hell basically and then they look really good by the end you know and silverman it's it's just so amazing to see silverman and archer especially figure out the style like the the simpson style is very close to done by the time they get to those last shorts you know like certainly there are there's a middle ground between like basically season one kind of looks

like the shorts meets what will be their future look yeah it's funny it's like the the main artist mastered the simpsons by the end of the shorts and then there's like a giant step down whenever all these new people have to learn how to draw the show yeah in season one and to pump it out too and also like that uh one you know archer and silverman especially once it started they had to learn so much like they were poached you know a pair of stoner hippie dudes who uh well just a couple of goofballs who are amazing animators goes the burning man every year you can call me hippie dude okay yeah no i think uh archer has told stories about pot uh past as well hey it's legal now but well then you got bill cop too like there's just i just love the gonzo spirit of those original ones that i feel like you can really see

it in those first ones before all the harvard nerds kind of tamped it down a bit more you know and and i say that as somebody who dreamed of being one of those harvard nerds telling the cartoonist what to draw but i mean yeah there's something in the rawness of those original shorts i i really love them well thankfully somebody recorded them but the ones that didn't air as part of the clip show are just like the newest ones they are on comedy central 25 years ago or lifetime or whatever uh but yeah guys if you want you know if you go back through the uh the talking simpsons archives definitely look up our interviews with david silverman west archer and bill kopp all about the their work especially on those early shorts and if you're

at the ten dollar level it's far back in the archives but me and bob did do video commentary on all of the shorts all of our thoughts on them. And those are almost five years old now, or at least the first one. I think that's for $10 and up patrons. Yeah. So those are available on the Patreon. You know, after you've listened to this seven hours of Roger Rabbit,

give those a watch. If you're still alive, remember to drink lots of water while you listen. So up next, we have one bit of news and it's a sad item uh you know what we're gonna say guys gilbert godfrey at rip uh unexpected passing much like norm mcdonald's and bob saget uh yeah he passed away and we're all very sad he was never on the simpsons but he had a very very extensive voiceover career obviously iago we all know that

but if you wanted to gilbert to be in something, if you paid him, he'd show up. He loved to work. And I think when he died, he had like 200 hours of unpublished cameos. Wow. Because I was reading he made $2 million on cameo. Holy cow, man. I mean, he would say anything in that voice and be very funny with it. I love that he's like no i i will

do your cameo just let me i mean and also he is a boon to dorky researchers of things or other dorks because he his podcast was how many times do we refer to just his podcast on this of like oh well on the kilbert godfrey podcast he talked to this one old guy and he said this. And that podcast was coming out up to a week before he died. The last episode was with Karina Longworth of the podcast. You must remember this. So yeah, he was doing his podcast up until the week before he died. And he kept his illness a secret from the public. I'm sure his friends and family knew, of course, but we didn't know.

So it was like, oh, he's dead. Oh my, okay. Then you have to look into it. I was like, what was it? What was it? And yeah, it's like a very rare, I think, type we didn't know. So it was like, oh, he's dead. Oh my, okay. Then you have to look into it. I was like, what was it? What was it? And yeah, it's like a very rare, I think, type of like muscular dystrophy. It's like something I had never even heard of. It's just like a very rare condition that affects your heart and everything like that.

No, it was so, so disappointing. I mean, just for animation, he did a million great things. He had one voice, but he was always great at it and i uh you know one of my favorites uh beyond the obvious ones like listen to our aladdin podcast i talked about how much i loved yago yago was was the toy i had from aladdin as a 10 year old but but also i really loved his uh mix yes spit lick uh version that he did on the bruce timiverse uh animated series for superman like he was he was really funny in those when i think of how to properly pronounce pronounce mix yes spit lick i think of him doing it it's mixed yes spit lick

and i've heard him say it on his podcast. And by the way, he has done so much. I was a little sad that more people weren't calling out his podcast because he was doing it for eight years. It's an amazing resource of like old Hollywood, old TV and old music. And like the most like bit players you've ever heard of would come on his show and tell these amazing stories. And that's in limbo right now. His co-host, Frank Centropadre, has not said anything about the fate of the podcast.

And I think Gilbert would appreciate me making a joke about his death because I stopped listening early 2020 because I was really busy and then COVID happened. And there's that thing when you're getting into a podcast, the transition from a pre-COVID to post-COVID world on a podcast is like a roller coaster ride of emotions and i was like i don't want to hear gilbert be sad about covid one day i'll catch up guess what i can catch up now there's only so many gilbert episodes left so

boy so that's the silver lining to gilbert's death he'd appreciate a joke about his passing too so now i can catch up i mean he was he was an edgy comedian as sometimes to his detriment, actually a number of times to his detriment. But yeah, I think he'd appreciate that joke. I mean, too, like the specter of death was all over that show when they would constantly joke about that. They would often be people's final interview would be on that show. Absolutely.

And you'd often hear them more than like, oh, we should have got him. We should have got her on the show and now they're gone yeah so you know it's it's funny for the a show that was about laughing at death now he it ends earlier than you would think from the shocking passing of of gilbert himself and then like yeah 67 like uh too too young i think i i don't know before 70 i'm used to wrestlers dying in their 60s but those guys it's also like gilbert seemed to live a very boring and private life yeah not the kind that would be ended early by like drugs or or stds or the like apparently his funeral was a real blast i was seeing people tweeting from it that uh you know his famous comedy friends who were invited

and the sad i mean the sad thing is, he was a dad late in life, and his kids are, like, 12 and 14, so he left behind, like, a family, which stinks. Not good. If you haven't seen it before, do yourself a favor and watch that Gilbert documentary, Gilbert's. You know, that's another. It was great seeing people share nice things with him.

Same with his The Incredible You Fool run on, I swear, I saw that live that day. Like, I didn't always watch Hollywood Squares on syndication, but I swear, if I didn't see it live, then I saw it as a clip package on like TalkSoup or something. But what a great, that's like one, that's the only reason that show should have existed was just that one episode. And hey, if his son becomes a famous comedian, I will support will support him absolutely it's the one child of celebrities i will support or daughter who knows and i and hey with all the money he saved up from being you know famously uh tight with his money i

hope that you know it's his family is doing very well i have one regret though with gilbert is that um for my anniversary with my wife i was going to get a gilbert godfrey cameo but then i thought this is all this is mostly going to be funny to me i mean my wife nina would appreciate it but i'm kind of just doing it for me and have hear gilbert godfrey say her names so i didn't end up doing it and i'm like i should have done it and also gotten or something else too because there's only there's only there's a finite amount of gilbert cameos at there do you have one no no, no, I didn't. And I missed it.

I've only you know, the only cameo I've gotten was for my mom of Jonathan Frakes, Captain William Riker, which she really appreciate. But yeah, it's the cameos are nice. If you if I I've listened to Tom Sharpling, they put up an old clip, like a few years old clip of of Tom talking with gilbert about and he was mocking his cameos and saying like oh yeah you have i can watch 800 hours of you wishing people a happy birthday or say we had a good graduation and then gilbert started razzing him like and what do you do now you deliver pizzas what what is it you do gilbert is great and we're gonna

miss him and you know again sadly never on the simpsons oh i couldn't believe that he had a he had a recurring character on duckman that's the closest he got into the simpsons zone i think and like how do you recast his like who could play iago other than him oh geez and the disney machine must demand that somebody play a new iago but maybe uh someone was training to be the next gilbert they've been tearing their voice apart for years oh man think of how much iago he's recorded for like stuffed animals and like sing-along things and storybooks and computer games and like just things you hear at disneyland and disney when they took over the enchanted tiki room yeah and all those jokes about how the regular tiki room sucks which pissed which pissed off

all of the disney hardcores uh man i'm gonna i i'm gonna dig back through his archives too but it's been a while since i i listened to i i gotta check some out there's a ton out there so yeah r.i.p to gilbert now and happier news our news hooray let's talk about the schedule for the month of may and our what a cartoon episode for that month is going to be the uh adult swim pilot for welcome to eltingville and that's with our patron and special guest professor gas can sponsoring another great episode so we're going to talk about all the uh we're going to talk about that failed pilot it failed not on a critical level but on a ratings level i guess it was too expensive you're going to find out yeah it's uh it was a

fait accompli before the time we saw it but yeah evan dorkin we go deep into his career and how uh we all live in the world of eltingville fandom yeah the fans of eltingville one and it sucks it's fun too and terrifying to look at what nerd culture was uh 20 years ago and yeah the pilot is 20 years old yeah and you know maybe some of us have stark realities faced in them. Just like, boy, I guess I was that guy. And I hope I'm not anymore. No wonder no one came to my birthday. So what's going on behind the Patreon paywall?

I'll tell you. We have Talking Futurama and Talking the Hill, of course. For Talking Futurama, we're covering A Pharaoh to Remember. In case you don't know what that is, it's when Bender becomes a pharaoh and enslaves all of his friends yeah it's a much darker episode than i had recalled yeah a hard a tough mean episode and on the lighter side talking the hill we're covering hank's dirty laundry an episode all about porn you're gonna find out how much we know about porn yeah it could be more than you think uh we're a bit like bill in that episode of having to be like well you know someone told me porn is like this now as we say in the podcast older boys told us all of this we don't know yeah

and uh or what a cartoon movie for may if you're on the ten dollar or higher level get the whole thing if you're on a lower level you get to hear the free preview it's going to be toy story 3 it was a surprisingly close pull for a movie i thought was beloved i thought i was the only one who was just kind of you know mixed about it but it seems like uh it was very polarizing it was news to me that it was so because i i also thought that uh you were on the outside on that but i think uh the sense i was getting from a lot of the comments about why they voted no was that it has not aged great or that toy story 4 kind of makes it redundant and is a better finale

to that era of Toy Story, you know, but I still love, I mean, maybe I'll be shocked when we do it, but I still like Toy Story 3 in my memories, you know, and also though we've done one and two, we can't just skip to four. We got to do them all guys. And I've really been enjoying producing those Toy story ones so i'm looking forward to doing the next one you've already learned so much of pixar history it's a whole nother level now we get to know this is you know the first toy story we'll be talking about after disney bottom so there's there's tons of info just there there's fun there's lots of fun behind the scene stuff about that so look forward to that at the end of may and as for june uh guess

what folks because it was such a hit last summer we're kicking off another summer of the Disney Renaissance for What a Cartoon. We'll be covering, hopefully, the rest of the movies that we haven't covered. And in our poll for June, the choices will be The Little Mermaid, The Rescuers Down Under, Beauty and the Beast, and Pocahontas. So we're going to be covering a lot of these movies over the next uh three months of the summer and uh yeah it was everyone loved it last summer we got a lot of new patrons because of it and i say why should we change yeah at least until we've covered all of the biggies and yeah so we've

you know so far we've uh gone here and there chronologically through it but i figure for our first poll for the summer we did black cauldron we did great mouse detective uh and you know what screw oliver and company let's just start with little mermaids a little mermaid rescues down under a beauty and the beast and then poke all of our company's fine it's not part of the renaissance yeah yeah so but yeah it's so shocking that little mermaid and beauty and the beast never won yet i keep thinking it will and here watch pocahontas win this one or whatever but uh you know it's unpredictable sometimes i've i have thought many times that beauty and the beast is going to win or little mermaid beauty and the beast especially sometimes ends up at like fourth

and i'm like yeah does nobody like this movie but me people could just be a lot younger than us i guess so but you know if beauty and the beast to win, it does dovetail pretty well into our Roger and the Roger Rabbit talk because it was started as a Disney UK production that then got sent over to Burbank and that Disney UK group was kind of the leftovers of the Roger Rabbit group. That's right. I'm looking forward to seeing the feedback on Roger Rabbit. Oh, yes.

Yeah. Which we haven't uploaded yet. We don't yet have the full hour count. I bet it gets close to seven. I bet it does get close to seven. If not, let's go back in and add some more. You know what? I'll just add, we have so many clips in there,

but I'll just add 10 more minutes of clips just to get it to seven. Hope your podcast players don't choke on that, by the way. So yeah, that is our schedule for May. A fun little month there. And let's talk about what we've been playing and watching that is not homework for podcasts, although of it some of mine is uh so playing yes elden ring i play it i don't have a lot of time these days i play it like once a week so i will finish it uh let's say within the year you've been given you know a certain pink puff

ball has been taking your time away from elden ring which yeah i've meanwhile i feel like i'm in well you never know what is end game but it does feel like I've done quite a lot. And, uh, my husband who is being my kind of blind guy through Elden Ring, I told him like, look, I don't want to follow a guide so much, but you read ahead. And if I'm about to do a thing that will lead to an early ending, tell me don't do that. And he did that. So I got to a point where an early ending could have happened and it didn't because he told me so that gives you a sense of how far i am in the game i suppose yeah uh i'm having a lot of fun with it it's just fun to poke away at these very uh dense worlds and yeah again by the end of the year i'll hopefully i'll finish it and yeah you mentioned

kirby i played a bunch of kirby games for an upcoming retronauts in may and uh playing a bit of kirby in the forgotten world although, although I have a true gamer mindset with that game and that I have to get all the objectives. So I'm only in World 2. See, I had to let that, you know, I was doing that all through World 1. And then I think on World 2 or 2, 2-1 or 2-2, I missed one. And I had to ask myself, am I really going to just play this level again right now? Don't I want to see a new level instead?

Oh, I played levels like three or four times in a row. Yeah, I maybe I'll go back. But yeah, I can't. I can't 100% it. I should just push my way to the end and then go back and get the hidden things. But you know, I know that feeling, too, because it's like, well, I just beat the stage. I know the stage so well right now that i can get those secondary objectives so much easier than if i try to go back into it fresh i should just do it right after i beat the stage so

i i get that instinct but it's a fun little game and i'm you know playing a ton of kirby games lately i'm having real curbissance in my life i bought all the kirby amiibo i don't know why wow you're not usually an amiibo kind of guy no no uh guess what they're so expensive and hard to find now but nintendo republished some of the kirby ones for this new game that's good that's good man i just i love watching kirby sleep that's my favorite that sound creepy but as long as you're not next to his bed so yeah i finished breath of the wild uh like right after the last time we recorded talk to the audience uh it's fun the bosses aren very good. And I thought they would have a new announcement, but they didn't.

Yeah, well, their announcement was it's not happening this year. Like that was their announcement. Yeah, every announcement IGO Numa says is basically like, yeah, we'll see you again next time, folks. Yeah, sorry, guys. You thought I was here to say release date.

Nope. Like, yeah, it's, I wonder, the Switch will be six years old next year. Like, shouldn't there be a switch to at that point and then it just would be on that as well you would think so but it never stopped selling yeah insane quantities especially that uh the other consoles are still hard to eat like 18 months out from their release date they are still hard to find it's funny when i see i'm on twitter it's just like oh amazon said they have five PS fives or there's like there's like a new list for Xbox Series S or whatever it's called.

Like there's you can't just walk into a store and get one now. Still, you know, this reminds me of a funny thing I heard on a podcast recently that involves friends of our show that Nick Weiger, Matt Apodaca and Heather Ann Campbell did a podcast with scott ackerman and they you know they were talking about being gamers and gaming and scott who his story is very out of touch he's like well yeah i have like a ps5 because it got sent to me for free by a company i was like but i've never opened it and he says should i play the switch and they he ackerman tells a funny story about like matt apodaca just did a step-by-step guide of like here's how to buy a switch go here go here do that when but then i went to amazon i was like i can just in one button press get the oled version of a switch right now like i don't know why they should have just pulled

scott's phone to be like here there's your hey give me your amazon bleep bloop i ordered you one switch now yeah it's so weird not to get too to video game talk here it's so weird that like i don't think the ps4 generation will ever technically end because like elden ring we just talked about it it's a ps4 game yeah it's built for that architecture when are we gonna see like okay now everything is at the next level now like will that ever happen because like it seems that we are in the 10th year of ps4 games yeah i don't i i guess probably the pandemic didn't help no absolutely not no so probably slowed it down a bit well i mean i just want nintendo to have a system that's as good as a ps4 like physically horsepower wise which they it's easy to forget

with the switch because the switch is full of great exclusives but uh horsepower wise it cannot do what a ps4 can do, let alone a PS5. And I played that Ratchet and Clank game last year or a few months, a couple months ago, just because I wanted to go like, okay, I'm playing a real PS5 game with PS5 graphics. I'm not doing this cross-gen old BS anymore. I felt the same way about Demon's Souls remake. Yeah. It's an actual PS5 game.

Yeah. Which still barely exists. You know, there might be one. No, that New Horizon game was still cross- it was yeah come on yep yep yep oh come on guys well yeah you'll you'll get to play it on pc it'll look a lot better in a few years probably sure uh so what else did i play i i finished castlevania circle of the moon because i have that switch castlevania a game boy advanced games collection yeah I was halfway through it. That game sucks. I usually don't push myself

through games I don't like and I'm not having fun with, but for this reason, for no reason, I did. And yeah, I don't recommend it. The other two games are much, much better, but like Circle of the Moon is bad.

Even when you can see things, you're not playing it on an original Game Boy Advance screen. It's still really bad. Yeah, you know what? My brother, when it was one of the few Game Boy Advance games,

he was the one telling me like, no, no, no, it it's really great i didn't feel like squinting all the time so i never gave it a shot it's it's not good i squint enough in my real life and i've also been buying a ton of 3ds games that i probably won't ever have time to play but because the stores are closing and because at any point all of the physical physical games are going to get even more expensive i'm just buying them so if you see if you see me tweeting about this uh you probably noticed like oh yeah i'm buying like a lot of cart games for 3ds i you know i bought the digital copy of rhythm thief a long time ago but yeah i would guess i sold when i was in need of money i sold my physical copy because it already was pretty rare then for rhythm thief i actually owned two copies and i sold them both for a cool like i

think 90 bucks each but now i think they're even more rare and i say this all the time i think i said this last time we talked about 3ds games get rusty's real deal baseball yeah yeah and you have to get it now while you can still buy stuff while you can still pay that man yes yeah that that wonderful sad little dog man it's a great series of minigames i recommend it uh so watching stuff getting into westerns more now thanks to my wife we watched high plains drifter have you seen this no i haven't seen that okay it's really good uh and it is like totally a new hollywood version of westerns where it's like everybody sucks the hero sucks the first thing he doesn't when he gets to town uh Can't say it on the mic. It might make you not want to see the rest of the movie.

But I say stick with it because it's worth watching. Yeah, really, really good. And I had never seen it before. Clint Eastwood directs it and stars in it. It's like from 1973 or so. Okay, I'll give that a watch. I like that era of Clint Eastwood Westerns. So I'll check that out.

It's not as bad as, sorry, not as long as The Good, The Bad, is it uh what uh 0.75 of good the bad and the ugly like it gets pretty close to it yeah uh also because i'm doing some jurassic park podcast i watched for the second time in 25 years the lost world no one ever talks about it uh for a reason but boy that movie sucks it sucks i mean we all remember the gymnastics yeah i remember that and we remember the godzilla parody that they it felt this movie has a proper ending but forget it i want 20 minutes of a t-rex running through a city you got to have too much fun that movie had the highest opening weekend until spider-man yes yeah i and then nine other movies beat that like in succession i was at

universal studios on a family trip the weekend it came out and i remember before some ride we were doing the presenter even going like who's your song lost world biggest opening ever we're really proud of it at universal do i get anything out of this no No. You know, I got to ride that Jurassic Park ride later at that same place. Yeah, not good. At least watch the scene where the truck is going over the cliff in the rain. That set piece is kind of fun. Oh, that's a great, yes. That's like eight minutes you can just watch on YouTube and then don't think about anything else.

It has the stupidest premise of any sequel. You know, as far as like an action set piece that the hanging rv with the glass breaking like spider webbing as they're on it yeah that's a good sequence but you're right that could have been he probably maybe had that for an indiana jones he's like i'll put it in this one yeah it feels like it could have been repurposed outside of the t-rex is menacing them it could have been hey a rhino or something who knows yeah also for the first time i saw the sound of music have you ever done a full watch of this a long time ago uh i went into it thinking i'm gonna get so many more jokes and you know i kind of do but also it was fun you know it is yeah is it three hours long yes

but uh boy those songs are good there's a reason why they stuck around in pop culture for so long now you've learned how they solve a problem like maria yeah you can do the same and boy uh i went into the movie knowing well there's gonna be nazis in it takes a long time for the nazis to show up and i wonder how taken by surprise people were by that uh new threat towards the end of the movie the nazis creep up on you it's you know in cabaret they're more right in your face at the start of it as far which that that just had its 50th anniversary and boy going back to the oscars that oh that moment eliza minnelli on stage with gaga that was hard like she's lies and noise is not in good shape it was it was a bummer it was kind of sweet that she got a little moment though yes yeah no and gaga was the nicest like she she really was

like so sweet she's like i'm here for you honey i got it i was just like wow what a sweet that that uh i i think lady gaga is one of the better uh mega billionaire superstars out there we'll forgive her for uh the lisa goes gaga episode yeah it's not her fault lg made a bad episode of a show with her in it like she just showed up and read the lines and boy did she ever read them yes good good reading of lines she's an oscar winner too, right? Yes. For Stars Born? Yeah. Not for acting, but her song. She was nominated for Stars Born acting. I also saw more about musicals.

Nina saw it all, but I saw about like 70% of Oklahoma. Never saw that before either. Oh, wow. And it was much better than I thought. The songs are really good. And also it was a lot racier and sarcastic. i thought it was going to be like a very corny movie most of it is but a lot of the movie is like look at these simple people how dumb are they that that girl can't say no bob she's in a terrible fix i like that yeah and uh she's a slutty girl in the 1880s or whatever that movie promises a surrey and it delivers that surrey shows up at the end it's a it's a slutty girl in the 1880s or whatever. That movie promises a surrey and it delivers. That surrey shows up at the end.

And it's a gorgeous surrey. And the corn is as high as an elephant's eye. It really is. It does get pretty high. And there's also like a 17-minute segment of like interpretive dance through ballet. So strange. I was not expecting that kind of like high art in this corn pone musical about like simple like farm folk.

Yeah. It's more like a Gene Kelly kind of thing about like simple like farm folk yeah it's more like a gene kelly kind of thing about like no just watch dancing but i guess back then it's like you have a little bit of everything in your movie plus it has to be epically length so have a 17 that the dance sequence uh especially because it's not the same actors which is also distracting like yeah that too which was a joke in cannibal the musical as well now i have to go back to that one my favorite song in this was i forget the name of it but it's basically the hero singing a song about how the villain should kill himself oh right yes because his funeral will just

be people saying oh what a good guy he was and boy we were so mean to him so yeah i forgot that one yeah but now now that you've seen it yeah i think cannibal the musical ever uh the majority of jokes in it are about how it's like oklahoma or parodying oklahoma so i think you'd appreciate it even more now also more about movies i've been watching i watch looney tunes back in action i talk a bit about this on the who framed roger rabbit podcast uh so i'll just be brief here it's like a b minus uh i don't think jenna elfman can carry a movie uh brendan fraser needs someone better to be with they don't have any chemistry but i did enjoy a more faithful looney tunes adaptation than space jam one thing i noticed though and i talk about this on roger rabbit very little

interactions with like sets and props with the tunes because like i said on that podcast or that you'll hear in the future roger rabbit did all of that. So other movies didn't have to. Yeah, they never would do it again. It just is like, yeah, it's really hard. And yeah, you feel bad. You know, I feel a little bad for old elf man that she she wanted to prove like, hey, I'm not a popular sitcom, but I can be in a movie, too. And then, you know, the movie bombs. It's like, no, you can't.

People are rejected as a movie star. I forgot that she was like in other movies before that. She was in that mega bomb, Town and Country, this like $120 million comedy. But she was also in like Keeping the Faith. Oh, yes, the rom-com with a rabbi, a priest, and a lady. Yeah, but yeah, it was... With the fantasy of a straight priest.

Exactly, who didn't like uh well he liked adults let's say that yeah uh so yeah that movie was fine and guess what i watched the evil dead because the blank check podcast is doing a series about sam raimi most people skip the first evil dead they're like oh two was much better two is much better evil dead one still really good you know content warnings of course it's I mean, it's a horror film from 1981 or whatever. You know what? Whenever I revisit that scene, it's not as extreme as my mind remembers it. Yeah, yeah.

It's actually pretty reserved. I mean, what happens in that scene happens, but it's not like over the top and titillating or anything. It's just like one thing happens and it's very quick and then they move on quickly. Now, I mean, some future some the horror freaks who would follow an evil dead are like oh i have to top this by being much more horrible and graphic in in my depictions of of sexual assault via magic like yeah it's uh no i think i think the original especially for somebody's first movie starring his college friends yes like yeah and amazing the effects they have with like no money

just moving a camera in effective ways uh very cool uh most people skip it because evil dead 2 is so much better i love how evil dead 2 speed runs the first movie in like two minutes it also does make it a little redundant but but it's fun to see uh you know all the old big chin himself bruce campbell like that young you know i forgot how young everyone was sam ramey uh made that movie when he was 21 years old wow we are failures we are failures no no i wasn't even a podcaster at 21 because they didn't exist and i'm going on for a long time also uh i watched platinum and bad anime i wanted to watch something fluffy and better so i've been watching uh the original dragon ball uh where i picked up where we left off about two years ago when we did that Dragon Ball podcast for What a Cartoon.

And I'm in the middle of the Red Ribbon Army saga. And hey, it's so much fun. And that's a part of Dragon Ball I don't know very well. So it's all very surprising to me what happens. It's a fun, very long adventure. Yeah, I like the Red Ribbon one a lot. You know, aside from the homophobia in it. Yeah, you know, thanks, though bob you uh i i didn't

put it on my notes but i watched the mother's basement platinum in video on oh good good because uh that really did just save me a lot of trouble really and explain a lot of what's uh what sucked about it and was disappointing and said that's a great video yeah it really is too bad that it does seem like the guy the the writer of the duo doesn't think very much of women i don't know no that's been true throughout all of his work they always have to become a the best outcome for a woman and his stuff is you became a wife good for you you're someone's wife yeah he's uh he's a bit regressive in that way but yeah dragon ball original dragon ball is fun uh i'm enjoying just just the idea that this was kind of for families to watch. I'm enjoying the Master Roshi pervo jokes because by default, like 20% of anime characters were perverts for humor until like the year 2002.

So like in the section I'm watching, Master Roshi, and the show's full of gadgets too, but Master Roshi, like the martial arts master who teaches Gokuku he gets a watch that shrinks himself and he's trying to make the girls he lives with go to the bathroom so he can hide in the bathroom as a shrunken down person and watch them pee right i was like i forgot his perversions went that far he's like i can't wait to watch this teenage girl take a piss it's not you're right yeah it's not just about seeing their underpants it's also to see them defecate. Yeah. That is a lot. And I was like, was this on Cartoon Network?

Did they dub this and put this on like Adult Swim? I feel like they had to make some hard cuts to that. Not just Goku's penis, but they also had to cut a lot of those things. I'm enjoying the risque 80s content, but it's also a lot of fun. And I've watched a lot more One Piece and I'm like, oh, I can see a lot of one piece uh how this inspired one piece with this journey this battle against this like fascist group oh yeah and uh this hero who's just very stupid but on the side of good so there you have it folks uh and uh yeah i pretty much played all the same stuff bob played elden ring and the new kirby i've also still doing my fitness boxing it's's been a good time. But movies, I saw a bunch of stuff.

Let me say everything everywhere all at once is really that good. If you've been hearing from everybody, you got to see this movie. I was hearing that too. I was like, really? Can it really be that good? It really is that good. It's a great time. I don't want to spoil a single thing about it.

So I'll just say, yeah, it's really great. I don't want to know anything about it. And I think I'll see it in Vancouver when I i'm there soon but every actor in it is great it's full of amazing performances it is a great conceptually just uh and it's as long as a marvel movie but earns every minute of its 139 minute runtime yeah uh speaking of all those musicals i watched the the west side story uh spielberg one which it was uh special to watch in that only steven spielberg could get that kind of budget for a fucking musical now like that's he's the only only person who could do that and it had some really interesting

updates because you know it said at the same time it was before uh but they make these you know really interesting choices especially with the uh puerto rican cast i think somebody told him like well wait this is weird that these puerto rican people at home are speaking english to each other like they would be speaking their their first language because it's they're they're at their home so they actually have like dialogue to to get around that and it's a much more bilingual movie which is really neat but yeah i'd say i'd say it's pretty good and uh but what was really good was i finally saw the satoshi kon documentary the illusionist which was a french-made doc it's really really good just i i i think uh it didn't tell me much i didn't learn already in my research

that we did for millennium actress but uh there's a lot of great interviews in there including you know uh some french anime uh aficionados which in american anime fandom you don't hear as much about that from the french even though i just saw a an anime localizer an english localizer who works in in the anime and manga field talk about how they're like oh yeah you know the japanese publishers america is not even the second most important uh it's france and then america that makes sense yeah but but yeah you learn so much the only negative i will say is that i understand why they invited darren aronofsky he's probably the most famous mainstream person they could talk to who would talk in it but if you know the history of his relationship with

satoshi kon he will say things in this movie that will not gel with what you remember hearing about it and i feel like the film didn't want to call him a liar so they just kind of let it go but yeah and it's also if you're interested in cone's career prior to perfect blue they don't really talk a ton about that either but uh and i wish they talked to susan muhirasawa and katsuhiro otomo they're the only two though from my research that i was like i wish they talked to susan muhirasawa and katsuhiro tomo they're the only two though from my research that i was like i wish they would have talked to them they talked to everybody else uh and yeah it's it's just really great and where can i watch this uh you know this was uh well it was it was hosted for free on this like website that was official so the national

museum of asian art actually hosted it for a time as as part of a general celebration of satoshi khan and unfortunately it's not there anymore on there i had tweeted it out when it was available guys and it was free to watch but uh look it's out there you can you can find it but the illusionist uh is really really great and they don't show you much of the incomplete film that he had been making but you get to see a little bit of it but yeah it's it's really good uh also on the anime front want to say uh the mystery of mamo blu-ray that discotheque just put out really really good uh it is i've seen it called this it's not my favorite lupin film but it is very good and it is

the most lupin film ever like if you want to see the true lupin warts and all of what monkey punch dreamed of animated incredibly well that's what mystery of mammo is you know castle of cogliostro that is the nice green jacket vision of him that's not the lupin the third you see in mystery of mammo and that's like the first movie right it is the first movie yes yeah which is uh a crazy ass movie also in in many many ways part of the at the start of the movie probably because they never were allowed to show her boobs before like uh in full fujiko just takes a shower at the start of the movie of just their way of going like look here they are check out them boobs folks like meanwhile i felt like a boob for watching morbius what a terrible movie i i listened

to the we hate movies podcast about it and that's how i absorbed morbius content they were very correct about it uh morbius like just it sucks man it just sucks and it's like it's amazing and how much it sucks the venom movie's way better than it i only watched it as a spider-man mega fan and i couldn't believe i fell for it again though with sony sony always does this they put the crazy teaser that's in the movie in their goddamn trailer to trick you to think that somebody like say michael keaton is in the movie way more than they are that stinks yeah you know i i'm kind of i'm really tired of these projects that are like, can you believe they made this? And then it turns out being bad.

I'm hearing that Moon Knight show is bad as well. And I was like, this could have been a movie. You know, I like it okay. I like it all right. I'm speaking from ignorance. I'm only seeing tweets from people I respect. You know, look, hey, it's not their best show. I'm liking it all right.

It really does just hinge on Oscar Isaac. He's good. Okay, he's in it. Yeah, yeah. And speaking of streaming shows, I watched the new season of Close Enough, which, you know, Bill Oakley is executive producer on. And it's really good. It's on HBO Max.

I'd say check it out. It's very, it's a lot of funny LA specifics, which is what I like about it. And also I finished the new season of jellystone also really really good it's really grown on me quite a lot and one more thing i wanted to mention is i just started listening to it i am 70 percent of the way through it bob own kirk's new memoir called comedy comedy comedy drama it's really good especially if you're a comedy nerd it should have been called god damn it yes yeah well unfortunately bob odenkirk is cursed with success in a way that we don't like and that he is

mainstream now and so my fear was that the book would be like 40 his comedy career and then a bunch of breaking bad stuff you know but instead it's more the inverse like i'm i'm five hours into a seven hour audiobook and only now has he mentioned breaking bad and it's also great because odin kirk uh is his surliness is quieted down a little in time but in the book he's just like you know what i didn't like this i didn't think that was funny fuck like especially even naming names he does not mince words about how he felt about chris farley being treated how he was he's renews his hate of the chippendale sketch he thinks that it it did kill chris farley in a way of like it enforced all the worst things about him and all his self-hate and he just tells these yeah i mean the chris farley stuff that's amazing he also i know he doesn't like say the ucb people

are stupid but he does say that he also fell under the spell of del close early in his career but he realized del close was full of shit and or also at the very least why do improv when you could write down a sketch and make it funnier and he thinks that all his improv acolytes are crazy and a little too full of themselves it was kind of a cult yes yeah close he calls it a cult and it's like i didn't fall into the cult and so he kind of talks crap on uh he talks crap on the acolytes of del close which are the ucb like that's you know i saw a very heartwarming tweet and it was uh a picture of bob odenkirk and david cross and carol burnett what yes and uh it was a tweet i think it was from bob odenkirk or somebody that was on the

scene at the time and they were like oh uh david David Cross met Carol Burnett saying, oh, you're a huge inspiration for my comedy. I loved yourself so much. And he finds out from Carol Burnett that she just started watching Mr. Show. And she's praising Mr. Show. Mr. Show is like 30 years old. I know. Also, if you're a Mr. Show maniac, you learn some new stories in there, too. And Odenkirk is very open about his opinion

on some things and others and also how he thinks like pray he is he is very clear about how he felt about working on snl and thinking it wasn't that good for him and he's there's so many interesting stories and also it is that odin kirk is very clear like yeah i was a comedy nerd too so i'm speaking to the choir with this like it it went beyond my expectations of it i'm gonna be so disappointed when he when he starts talking about being cast on breaking bad because i was like hey at least those are shows i like although he's great on it yeah and i was saying there's no better call sol it's like i only watched the first season and i really liked it what happened i need to watch more of it you have quite a lot to catch up on as do i i i only watched

a little of the first season i watched all breaking watched a little of the first season. I watched all Breaking Bad, a little of the first season of Better Call Saul, and the El Camino movie. I still haven't seen that. I think I'm waiting for a Breaking Bad rewatch. It's a good coda to his story. I'm going to be the husband that makes the wife watch Breaking Bad. And when you watch it, you'd be like, look at Skylar. She sucks. What a bitch

she terrible he's just trying to help his family this dumb bitch ruins everything i was never like that no no no i if you find somebody who hates skylar that's uh that is their failure as a person it's a litmus test it's a litmus test but and also i watched too much wrestling it was it was a big rest i could tell by these tweets all these tweets i don't understand no and i tweeted samoa joe but look i gotta tell you samoa joe surprisingly appeared on on a tv show he hadn't been in uh in wrestling in months and now he made his surprise return i was excited to see samoa joe again good for him yeah i'm always happy to see him getting aware oh like i guess in personal news we're recording this early because uh after a two-year delay i'm finally having my uh not wedding ceremony, but a wedding celebration.

And that is basically people coming to Vancouver to celebrate me and my wife. It was supposed to happen in late April of 2020. I forget why we canceled it, but it's happening now. And I'm also going to be turning 40 on that trip as well. So it's going to be, you know, some big events in my life. So we are working way ahead and recording this way ahead of time so i can leave and henry will be there too for a bit yeah yeah i've never i was going to be my first trip to vancouver and now it's finally happening i've been looking forward to it i just feel i filled out my uh air canada or whatever

arrive can arrive can that's it yes thank you i just filled that out i i'm all ready to go and yeah i've by the time you hear this even on the patreon it will have happened so i mean look at man. That's it. Yes. Thank you. I just filled that out. I'm all ready to go. And yeah, I've, by the time you hear this, even on the Patreon, it will have happened. So, I mean, look at our Twitter. We might have some fun, fun pictures from the old BC. And you still have to wear a mask on a plane to Canada. Thank goodness, man. I, you know, we'll see if I really stick with it, but I feel like these planes are germ tubes. Like we've should all i i did feel like i was going insane watching those videos shared around on twitter of like the airline employees on a plane going like hey we just found out you can take your mask off right now do it right now while we're in here do it throw it

on the ground yeah you know uh i'm i'm gonna do it i'm gonna still wear a mask on my plane on the plane not on my plane my plane is in the shop folks that's how much i'm making on this patreon but i still like i'll get a drink on the plane i'll drink my drink i'll eat on the plane it's fine i'm not that like i'm not like putting a straw up under my mask or whatever yeah yeah no i i just wonder how long the peer pressure will take to get to me i mean i like my next trip after this trip is to las vegas for pro wrestling so in las vegas it's uh it's a tough airport full of uh guys wearing punisher shirts and thin blue line shirts well usually it's uh it's a tough airport full of uh guys wearing punisher shirts and thin blue line shirts well usually it's like if the destination is a bad place with bad people

the people on your flight are probably not going to be great yes yeah well especially they're getting they're leaving they're probably leaving oakland airport going on i'm sick of being in this bullshit place full of full of commies and black people. California. Yeah. I'm finally getting back to Las Vegas. But we'll see how that goes. But at the very least, I like that I'll be on the nicer, friendlier Air Canada skies

for my first flight after the end of the American mask mandate. You know, like I said, I'm turning 40, and this is the first time I bought a ticket in uh business class folks that's right kicking my feet up getting seated first uh i figured you deserved it yeah it'll be my first flight as a decrepit 40 year old flying back home disgusting yeah it's coming for me in a few few more months it'll happen to you yeah uh let's move on to talking simpsons comments and the first episode was homer the mo with the real life bartender It'll happen to you. Let's move on to Talkie Simpson's comments. And the first episode was Homer the Moe with the real life bartender, though much more handsome than Moe, Stuart Wellington. Yes. Yeah.

It was great to have the flop house of our first flop house guy on here. Yes. We're going to try to wrangle the other two at some point. Just you wait. So Kat Hagberg says, as I was listening to this episode last week, my HR person and boss texted to let me know I was being laid off. Hooray for corporate acquisitions of media companies. Then 10 minutes later, my husband was also fired in a similar manner. That's when I turned off the podcast so as not to taint it with that memory and to rage about capitalism while I logged into LinkedIn instead. Then I finally listened to the rest later that night and it actually made the second worst day of my life a little better.

So thank you for being there for this unemployed arena. And we're very sorry to hear that cat i i've been uh i think like every place i've worked for was bought out and it was just bad news for everyone i think i believed it the first time a boss said no actually it's good if we get bought out just means more money for all of us more freedom budget gets bigger you know we can try all these things it never means that no it means a few people get money and most other people lose their jobs and it stinks so our heart goes out to you really sad to hear that no i mean it's uh you're about to hear about more of that going on in the animation world probably because discovery and warner brothers have now merged and so a lot of redundant

jobs there as far as like these these companies don't merge together to decide we want to employ the same number of people that's that's not what they feel no dofu also said about that episode hi guys i'm a food scientist and the part about the beer made out of soy sauce always stuck out to me in this episode well actually i'm a flavor chemist someone who designs flavors for food products and no 2,4-dexapraxipyrinine does not cause monsterism alcoholic fermentation is the process of converting sugars to alcohol, and this is done by microorganisms. Essentially, anything that contains carbohydrates like rice, barley, even soybeans could be fermented to create alcohol,

so beer brewed from soy wouldn't be that far-fetched, though it would probably taste pretty gnarly, or at the very least, just taste like soy sauce. However, the super high level of salt in soy sauce would destroy the microorganisms that perform the fermentation process which is why soy sauce is shelf stable for 1 000 years don't throw out your soy sauce in the fridge people it's still good those little packets are good forever and so alcohol could not be further generated from it i get the most probably suggesting the soy sauce is used as a flavoring in the recipe for an otherwise typical lager but it felt like some needless pedantry was

in order thank you just some fun food for thought so yeah i've had a salty drink every now and then it's weird yes yeah it's uh it's a sometimes thing yeah it's uh i don't love it it's more i but of course we all know i have a real sweet tooth for alcohol i'll kind of drink any weird ass beer if it's on the menu just to try it and then sometimes regret it but still say hey you know it's still beer you know me and you went out to a bar recently i kind of regret it later i saw that they had a sake flight there i was like i should have split that instead of i mean your highball looked really good well it was well meanwhile I had some very girly drinks on my part. We deserved it after our very long Raptor Rabbit recording.

Yeah, boy, did we. So up next is When Flanders Failed with Jose, YouTube content creator. Please check out Jose's new video about Boy Meets World. Ooh, I haven't watched it yet. It's a show I watched like one and a half seasons of, but I watched Jose's entire video about it. Very interesting. I'm going to check that out. And Nina Matsumoto says, in Flanders Field was on the back of the old $10 bill, which

is purple. And yes, every single person who grew up in Canada knows this poem. And many can probably recite at least the first two lines. So there you go. See, Jose, she's clarifying some stuff. Jose had to pull out his wallet to remember what uh what in flanders field was on but we can count on nina to uh to update us on on canadian things but yeah i guess it's gone away from ten dollar bills this next generation of canadians are not gonna know

in flanders field the same i think the first time i went to canada i actually got my money exchanged the every other time it's just like well no every place takes credit yeah why do i want to bring money back here you know you gave me a pause just there of like oh no i'm gonna have to get canadian like oh wait no no i can just use my credit card the great thing about canada i think i talked about this before if you're in canada you're just like well yeah duh that's how we do it but when you're in canada it's so easy to split a check you could split it like 9 000 different ways they don't care they don't like grumble at you and say i'll see what i can do i know every waiter hates splitting checks in america even if you tell them like up front like

separate checks please please please like well i don't know i haven't yeah also on when planners failed harry thornton says as a left-handed guy myself all the jokes about left-handed things are very relatable also i think there's a subtler joke going on that it'd be easy to mistake the shop for being a store for leftists, as in politically. Later material has Flanders selling merch with the slogans like left power. Frankly, that's a funnier joke. Wish they could have leaned on it more. And as a Kiwi, the only things I know about Canadian football is through John Boyes' Tim Tebow CFL Chronicles, a surreal alternate history story where Tim Tebow drops out of the NFL to become a CFL player. Thanks to that,

I learned Canadian football was played before American football by just a few years, which I didn't know that either. They were first to all the sports, weren't they? Yeah, basketball and football, boy. But but we had baseball first that's true that's true it's long and boring one other canadian thing a tip for you honey when you go there i told my parents says when you pay for something you just you don't hand your filthy credit card to someone they're not going to touch that they give you a machine whoa and you take over wow you're in control hand me the machine yeah i'll be ready for that yeah i won't so easily reveal myself as an American visitor.

Well, I'm sure I will. The second you have to take off your cowboy hat first. Yeah, I'll be. I can't bring guns here. What the fuck? Only small pistols at best. Anything you can fire in the air to express joy. Up next, we have what a cartoon comments for Pinocchio.

That was our what a cartoon movie for the month of March. Please check it out. I had a lot of fun putting that one together. But Zaina Klein says, loved learning about the history of this classic. We appreciate all the time put in and the research done. And I'm going to grab a copy of the original story for myself, if only for the super dark illustrations. Also, not sure if you guys mentioned it, but the actress who voiced the Blue Fairy was

in a Shirley Temple movie, The Little Colonel. Hearing her voice reminded me of her in that film I watched due to my mother's love of Shirley Temple, but she really was beautiful and the spitting image of the Blue Fairy in brunette form. Finally, at the end of the movie, the choir singing When You Wish Upon a Star sounded eerily similar to the same choir slash music singing at the end of Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty and probably some others. I can't remember off the top of my head. It just made me feel as though I was watching a different Disney classic movie. Not sure if anyone else felt it, too.

And I guess that was just a style at the time, too. Like the lavish chorus coming in. They sing you out and in like, oh, yes. Yeah. That's how you know it's an important movie because of an overture like that singing you into your seats yeah and i watched a lot of old movies even as a kid but i really never watched any shirley temple movies i don't think no not me either my my uh mom i didn't have a fan in the family of it either and yeah i think uh even when we did the you know i should have

watched the little colonel before we did the uh the shirley temple episode of the simpsons as well yeah with a little last tap dance in springfield that's right yes also on that podcast alex irish says i did get to go to pleasure island a fair few times at downtown disney and orlando back in the halcyon days of 2006 however i was 18 turning 19 then so i didn't get to enjoy the pleasures of beer and spirits at the nightclubs. Anyway, I fully agree Pinocchio is a zenith of 2D animation and still holds up today on a technical level, and the Roberto Benigni live-action version is just as bad as it sounds. If you can somehow check out the 2002 Miramax dub, it is both notoriously bad and oozes

that Harvey Weinstein energy of calling in favors from his blackballed hollywood acting cabal i grew up as a wein on a consistent diet of the disney version and the 1996 jonathan taylor thomas version which uh i was not aware that there was one of those for yeah i believe martin landau is geppetto oh all right i see the vhs box in my head now i see it's uh it's like a jim henson kind of thing too yeah so wait they made him be they made jtt be huck finn and that guy i guess so boy it seemed like not a lot of work for him just just a voiceover there's so there's too much pinocchio you know what at least panini brought something new to it but yeah as as we've learned through many times harvey weinstein uh especially foreign films, just hacked the shit out of them.

Just going like, oh, forget this art of cinema. Americans don't get this bullshit. They don't need to see these comedy scenes in The Iron Monkey. And if he could have, he would have hacked to pieces Princess Mononoke. But he could not. He was wrong about mostly everything, that guy. Every single thing. Pretty bad guy. You know, we talked about this on the Roger Rabbit thing. Pretty bad. Pretty bad guy.

You know, we talked about this on the Roger Rabbit podcast. So apologies. But I want to bring it up here. Roger Rabbit, Robert Zemeckis movie. Amazing. And his next movie, Pinocchio for Disney Plus. And they released an image of the puppet. And yeah, it looks like the fucking thing in the cartoon.

Yeah. Expect a very literal interpretation of this. I wonder, you know, yeah, the Guillermo one, Del Toro's, I'm looking forward to a little more. Yeah, yeah. But I guess I'll just watch the Zemeckis one anyways. It'll just be on Disney+. It'll cost me extra.

I'm going to have some drinks and probably watch it and see Tom Hanks debase himself even further. Moving on to What a Cartoon. Saturday morning, All-star hits with special guest scott garner thanks again to scott for being on for an hour-long interview about that great show on netflix please watch if you haven't already it's great we're he uh quote tweeted our uh podcast about it or tweet about it and it's his pin tweet currently and it even got retweeted by star of the show kyle mooney i i took that as a badge of honor yes yeah i think they

really appreciated our our love of it and uh kate santee says that psa episode cracked me up because when i was a small child my parents inexplicably forbade me and my siblings from saying shut up because it was a uniquely rude phrase i guess they were also very weird about the word fart and would instead make us use the euphemism freep until we were tweens. Freep, man. Is this Farscape? Where are we? Your friends are going to make fun of you in school for that.

Yeah. When you say freep, they're like, what the fuck? This person says freep. I'm sorry if that brought back bad memories, Cade. Sorry. There was apparently enough real anti-shut up hysteria in the 90s that a writer on Angry Beavers talked about the phrase being censored from an episode because Nickelodeon's then president didn't want children to say it.

Was this just a thing with boomers who became very concerned parents? And I mean, I'm sure even parents today don't. This is me speaking, by the way. I'm sure parents today don't want their kids to be rude, but it seems like boomers were overly concerned to the point where like, that Bart Simpson, he's got a sass mouth, that little bastard. But saying just like yeah shit i remember that now from our angry beavers podcast i was like oh yeah they were told

these characters can't say shut up to you like that i think that's another of those reasons rand and stimpy felt special at the time because most cartoons weren't that cruel to one another on tv then you know well like there was a lot of curse words flying around in my house my mom my mom and stepdad swore a lot and i swore pretty casually and i knew i couldn't do that around other parents but at one point i was like in like the minivan of some other mom and i and i said geez and i got scolded for saying geez oh man wow i got you know uh i remember a teacher once was mad that I wrote Xmas for Christmas. She said I was taking the Christ out of Christmas and shamed me in school.

This was in school, by the way. Hey, just an easier way to write it. Yeah, yeah. But I was getting out of writing Christ and she was very mad. And again, this was in school. Like, this is a religious scolding I got in a classroom. In a public school. Yes. a religious scolding i got in a classroom but in a public school yes uh so also on that episode

shy ranger says to respond to bob wondering if anyone else was fooled into thinking skip and traybor were two different people it did fool me i also didn't know about kyle much so my first thought when watching was oh these guys must be actual twin brothers that's how they play off each other so well because they've done this before and drew mackie chimed in with that it's like i have no excuse i know kyle mooney's work enough that i would probably know if he had a twin and somehow for the first episode i thought kyle was skip and the other one was someone else but also i may have been two or three glasses of wine in when i came to that conclusion i see i mean i was i was watching these while having a beer in my watching my small tv from far away so that's my excuse but also kyle mooney does a

great job yes yeah you you uh and that was just two of a number of replies in there like no i i thought it was two different people as well when i watched i mean it's it's a credit to his acting it's a credit to the camera work and the special effects on it. Like, yeah, it's all some great movie magic to really make you think you're watching two twins there. God bless that motion control camera. What can't it do? Moving on to Talking Futurama, the episode of Leela of her own and Kat Hegberg is back to say, from childhood on, I identified so hard with Leela because I don't have any depth perception. Baseball and softball were such a nightmare for me in gym

class. I was otherwise a super athletic kid, but anything that involved hitting, catching, or receiving an airborne object in some manner was absolutely humiliating. Like it was always weird going from the AFAB kid pick first for every sport to the one pick last and relentlessly ridiculed when it came time for a ball sport. I remember especially feeling represented by this episode like, yes, it's okay for Lila to suck at something. It's okay for me to suck at something, too. And I will say I didn't have depth perception problems. I had fear of balls. And I think that's just as viable of an issue.

Just make me run around in circles. I don't want to get a football thrown at me. I rest my case. Yeah, I'll keep running in circles all I want. Like, please, I don't want to play. I don't want to have a kickball fly right in my face. My glasses might get broken. I got a

nice new pair of glasses by the way oh now i'm noticing them very nice also on a lee loverone scott's galleon says as a baseball enjoyer and a mets fan i appreciate all the work with the research watching this episode i couldn't help but think of mlb owner bill veek who had a propensity for carney showmanship the most infamous example is when he hired a little person named Eddie Gatel to play for the St. Louis Browns in 1951. Gatel only had one plate appearance, where he earned a walk due to having a very small strike zone. It may be apocryphal, but apparently Veek warned Gatel

that he had a sniper aimed at him, should he even attempt to swing the bat gato wore a uniform with the number one eighth on it uh veek would try other stunts throughout his career including the disastrous disco demolition night but the legend of eddie gato will likely outlive them all yeah i i'd heard of disco demolition night i had not heard of the little person made to play baseball and have a tiny strike zone i did not know about the clown player on lela's team yeah yeah and you know what like right after episode went live maybe a week after there was a recent a bit of history that was made because the san francisco giants our local team our local team yes although i don't go there well i guess actually oakland is yeah

that's true but yeah the east bay uh but yeah the giants uh their coach alissa neck and i believe n-a-k-k-e-n neck and neck and she was the first female coach to take the field in the entire history of major league baseball wow that's impressive just shows how backwards it's been yeah over 100 years of baseball but uh yeah that's cool that hey that's cool you know progress is slow but at least that's something but yeah i definitely there was some chat in the discord too about like how has there not been a female player yet and there's some interesting stuff about like well you know in america at least if you're a promising female athlete in that way you're probably directed

towards softball so you're not trained enough in baseball to graduate into college and up like it sounded it sounded like a systemic problem as well yeah and now we're on to the talking of the hill episode all about three days of the condo and joey joe joe sabadoo says about people going to mexico and going to the senior frog a few years ago i went to columbia to do a tour one of our stops was cartagena a beach town where a lot of the cruise ships come in. We got there in the middle of the week and it was not very busy. One thing I saw there was a Hard Rock Cafe. I just honestly cannot imagine going all the way to Colombia where there is so much to see and do and eat and going to Hard Rock Cafe. Then the weekend came and the

cruise ships came into port and that city changed dramatically. Every five feet you were stopped by a vendor. Everyone in the city switched from Spanish to English and all the prices went up. That just made me never want to go on a cruise ship and it made me feel awful to be the American tourist. You guys are right. People only want to see comfort in a different location with the locals being subservient to them.

Yes, yeah. It's, again, it was a real breakdown for me on family cruises. I'd never pay for a cruise myself in that way. I could see taking a cruise again someday but though in the in this post-covid world i don't know but but if it had any like stopovers like that it's just too depressing and i i'm fine with okay i'm on a boat and i'm just gonna eat and drink all i want and gamble and then walk to my room and pass out

that i'm cool with but yeah it's like oh now walk to my room and pass out. That I'm cool with. But yeah, it's like, oh, now walk off the boat and have, you know, all these subservient foreign people like do your bidding. It's hard enough to try to not ignore, but like get through all of the exploitation you see around you just in your normal life. And then it's like, well, the cruise is built on that. No, I mean, too, if you ask any person working on a cruise what their life is like, you're like, oh, this is very depressing.

You're being horribly exploited by this cruise company. You're like an indentured servant to them. This sucks. Ron Sterling says on that same episode, I'm glad you guys touched on the provenance of Hey Mickey. As a hardcore nerd and novelty music fan, it falls into one of my favorite niches. Covers you didn't know were covers slash exceeded the original. I think the exemplar in this category would be fellow 80s pop alumni

Cyndi Lauper and her hit girl power anthem, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun. Maybe not technically a cover since Robert Hazard sold his demo rather than releasing a cut. What makes that a fun one is that it was never intended to be written for a female lead the song as sung by hazard was about a lothario excusing his wanton ways to his parents by blaming the women who go out with him cindy barely changed the thing in her version but just by gender swapping the lead it became a song about a young woman breaking free of patriarchal expectation and living her expectation and living their best lives.

Great ep as always. Glad we got King of the Hill on the reg now. So, wow, I did not know that about Girls Just Want to Have Fun. I was going to ask, is there a wrestler in that video? And yeah, it's Lou Albano playing the father who wants to know, what are you going to do with your life? With no, and without that appearance, there would be no WrestleMania. Like if he didn't do the Girls Just Want to have fun music video, likely there never would

have been a WrestleMania. And of course, the Goonies song is like a mini movie about saving a wrestling based car wash. Yes. From the evil wrestlers. The evil wrestlers come to destroy the good wrestling car wash, which and then at some point she walks through a tunnel and goes on to the set of the Goonies meeting with the Goonies.

Yeah. Well, she has to cover the Goonies in some way she's obligated to and then even calls for help from one steven spielberg as we all do uh moving on because it just came out we have comments for king of the hill uh talking in the hill rather the episode traffic jam and yes folks we recorded that a few weeks before the oscars then the oscars happened and then two weeks after that or almost three weeks after that yeah this episode goes live and And you know what? It's fine that we didn't talk about it because I think like what, three days after it, weren't you sick of the discourse? Yes. Yeah. I think we all were pretty sick of it. That was our first comment actually I pulled in

there was Nina Matsumoto saying I'm sick to death of the slap discourse. So I'd say you guys recorded at the perfect time. So yeah. And look, i wasn't going to take sides like oh yeah these two multi-millionaires like having a fracas or whatever i mean obviously will smith slapped the guy that shouldn't have happened but i was reading like oh chris rock kind of sucks too i was looking into his personal life it's just as messed up as will smith's yeah yeah everybody wants to dunk on will smith for his weird marriage yeah i i mean chris rock look into his divorce and what he even just says about himself about how it all fell apart is his pornography addiction i don't think i i mean maybe i don't think that's real i think

you were a rich guy who just wanted to fuck a lot of women and you did uh come on bob don't you feel bad for him like no not really he said he had sexual autism from pornography as in it uh yes i mean that was a joke but come on dude come on but him just saying like he was so uh i mean i've heard you know to go back for pro wrestlers i i remember hearing jake the snake roberts say this about like yeah wrestling wrestling on the road when every night you can sleep with a different person and vanilla sex, especially with a long-term partner to him, at least for Jake Roberts became nothing like it was like meaningless or it's like, how do you go home to your wife after you've been with like three women in one night and you do a bunch of drugs?

Like, and it just, it for, for some folks, especially in extramarital like, and a non open relationship. So they're also doing it it involves they were doing it against the wishes their partner it becomes like a very compartmentalized thing of their guilt and so yeah i mean i could see i could see definitely his infidelity causing him to have a fucked up relationship to sex if you're living in a masturbation addiction world don't throw glass stones yeah i again i i think it also the only simpsons thing you you had a good suggestion on there was like oh mike reese

you know actually writes for the oscars and that a gi jane reference sounds stale enough to be used by him they could have made a gi jane joke in this episode of king of the hill because that movie came out in the fall of 97 yes yeah it would have been a very recent one but so i i agree with nina that ultimately i'm glad we did not record this one after it happened because it would just weigh over the whole thing of like oh we're telling a story about chris rock playing a stand-up who hurts someone's feelings and the guy gets mad at them and try to get them fired yeah like yeah yeah no my my conspiracy theory is that mike reese did write that joke i don't i don't something tells me like chris rock is not pulling out a gi jane reference out of his head you know he's old too though i guess so but that in a way that also felt like a throwback

to the mtv movie awards which this moment just felt like a throwback to the mtv music or music video awards or movie awards where you know chris rock would come on stage he'd say a somewhat mean thing to somebody in the audience and it would cause like moment but yeah it was again though that it was a weird moment to me my only tweet about it when it happened was i was trying to figure out if it was fake or not because the whole show they were trying to make up like whoa you thought it doesn't this look real kind of moment of of shocking and then that moment, for a second, you think it is supposed to be a comedy bit, you know? Yeah, yeah. You're not expecting it.

I mean, if you think it's fake, just check out Will Smith's acceptance speech that went on for a long time. Yes, yeah. And then it caused, I mean, yeah, the discourse on it is so tiresome, too, because it's like, oh, he's banned from the Oscars. Who hasn't been banned or who won an oscar and it's just a list of like uh like when people say oh will smith has to get back his oscar what about say roman polanski or harvard hey we're making discourse right now yeah see all right but you know what listeners if you wanted the slap discourse from us there there you

got it we said it um also blake r said about that episode i watched this episode with my wife and when hank was reviewing all the different defensive driving pamphlets she thought it was a little too absurd i had to tell her that i myself had a moving violation when i was 17 and had to take a course to remove it from my record i went to one in austin called funny bone defensive driving because it specifically advertised itself as comedy themed the best way to describe it is imagine a six-hour episode of full house that's entirely centered on uncle joey explaining the rules of driving while pulling out all of his terrible voices that sounds like hell i don't know when they were when blake was 17 but maybe he could have gotten a johnny hartwick talk class

maybe my theory was that uh johnny hartwick talk class maybe my theory was that uh johnny hartwick wrote the episode he was a stand-up comic in uh austin in the 90s and i assume he's taking that from his own experience or experience that of friends that he had in the stand-up comedy world so this confirms that that there are this there was this thing happening in austin this comedy traffic school thing and uh there's some other good uh it's it's relatively new but there's some other good comments on there too i do want to to say Ron Sterling had a really good one about, usually you guys should just read the whole thing. It's a long story, but about him being a biracial kid in a predominantly white world then and

surrounded by friends who also wanted to repeat Chris Rock jokes and having to deal with that in his life. It's a really interesting story. And apparently these Yo Mama jokes are called the Dirty Dozens the dozens dozens i had never heard that before but then i looked up an old and living color bit where that was like a game show and it's called the dirty dozens that's funny man you know the con i i appreciate that comment you're saying we have never sounded whiter than saying it is a yo mama joke yes yeah i will apologize hey i'm not even from california from ohio that makes me even whiter yes yeah i i'm

from the deep south well not the deepest south but not not the lightest stuff you've ever seen but yes not not very diverse for me but yeah that was an episode talk to the

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