Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - December 2022

Episode Date: January 4, 2023

We've reached the end of the month, which means it's once again time for another installment of our community podcast. Join us as we discuss this month's new Simpsons episodes (and the new short), bra...nd-new interviews with Simpsons veterans, and the Balenciaga brand getting into hot water. And, as always, we read and respond to your questions and comments from the most recent round of episodes. Thanks so much for giving us a great 2022; we'll see you next year! Support this podcast and get over 100 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, ahoy everybody and welcome to Talk to the Audience where this is always death. I am one of your hosts, the TGI McScratchies patron Bob Mackie, who is here with me today as always. Hey, there's nothing better at Christmas than listening to Italians sing a Spanish song. It's Henry Gilbert. Hello. Italian family, perhaps. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:32 And yes, this is Talk to the Audience. It hits at the end of the month for patrons, the beginning of the month for people on the free feed. And what we do in this podcast is talk about what's happening in the Simpsons world and in our world. And we also answer your questions and comments from the last rounds of episodes that have been posted to the patreon account and it is a slow news month and we're also recording this episode a week early because Henry and I are both going on respective trips to different places this is our last talking Simpsons of the year that we're recording in person so yeah it's or no that we're recording period period yeah the next time you hear something we've recorded, it will have been recorded in January.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Old Man 2022 will be dead. How do you like it down there, boy? I'm going to hold that new baby when it hits 2023. Yeah, boy, that new baby has a lot of stuff in store for us, I think. Yes. Hopefully not another global pandemic is what I'm referring to, but us moving places. Yes, yes. I don't think uh
Starting point is 00:01:26 the code it's fine yeah i mean well everybody's accepted it's fine and we're just all gonna get it don't don't look at numbers yeah especially if you're traveling but uh yes there were some new episodes this uh month and i was only able to watch one of them because the first one on our list was not on hulu oh really is that the most recent one uh you mean top goon or the oh game done changed oh i i watched it on hulu okay weird i've i have signed into hulu before and not seen episodes on it but yeah this is the uh roblox or bow blocks episode and uh bow blocks sorry roblox is uh the thing to confuse you if you are only old enough to know about Minecraft. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Or so old that you only know about Minecraft, rather. It's so, like, I hate that Minecraft is a retro thing now and that Roblox is the new thing for kids. And honestly, the fact that The Simpsons is parodying it means that it's like five years out of being the top hot thing now honestly i i knew about uh roblox because at our old job we had a co-worker who was also a roblox streamer that was the first time i heard about it he was streaming exclusively to children because there's a child audience and he was afraid they would find his gay furry account that was a danger for him yes i hope i hope it all worked out for him but yeah i remember he also talked about of like uh people would come on the twitch and complain like why are you talking about your husband or whatever it's just like
Starting point is 00:02:49 well i'm not gonna suck his dick on the stream like i'm just mentioning i have a husband he's homophobic children yeah uh but yeah i mean the game doesn't change it's a barton skinner episode they do a they do a scam at bow blocks uh and it's all right they i mean their animation style done in that 3d style was interesting to see uh that they act out a ton of stuff in the world there have been many better bart befriends skinner ones uh though i i do think it's kind of interesting that the way they do it is skinner wants to get all that money to build a stage to have amazing performances on so it can be a a performing arts school and uh he sings and you know harry sheer didn't phone it in i'll say i think uh he didn't try his hardest but he did
Starting point is 00:03:38 good i just want to be in the heads of uh both 60 year old nancy cartwright and 80 year old harry sheer when they get a roblox based parody sent to them that's a good point yeah and then oh and the rest of the family also gets obsessed with it too and and then there's a wire parody which i'm like it's 20 years old now guys but okay now it's a classic and i did watch this other one it was good it was like uh not quite a christmas episode but it was a winter season episode called uh top goon which was a top gun parody about uh mo and nelson bonding and it taught me a lot about what a goon is yeah oh yeah i learned that i didn't watch the movie but there was a movie of over a decade ago called i think just goon starring um sean williams scott williams scott thank you bob yes uh i only know this because scott ackerman would call it go on oh right yes that's right uh but yeah i i knew that then
Starting point is 00:04:31 obviously we don't really watch hockey and know what a goon is but this explained it pretty well it does seem to be from written by people who love hockey and uh and mo and nelson are a fun combo they're both pig-nosed ugly jerks they're both hideous and hateful and they find a good bond together and i also like that now when an episode like that cincinnati episode though this isn't as extreme of excluding the family they're still a big part of it uh but it the opening is mo sizzleck to let you know it's a mo episode uh and it's funny too that in this episode that where it's about homer being a bad dad it's just that he does all the things with bart and openly hates it
Starting point is 00:05:12 instead of just not doing it at all yeah this is really anti-child sports in that i could tell this comes from a lot of dads who were forced to attend a lot of games and practices and i think my parents they don't know the blessing i gave them by not being into sports oh yeah man and well the parents who had to go through before having a a phone to stare at like uh i i like the joke of homer saying i'm gonna he's gonna stare at his phone all the way on the drive there i'm gonna stare at my phone the entire time i'm in the stands and then we're both gonna stare at our phones on the way back like somebody i think before that the parents would just drink at the games and then get into fights maybe the iphones have made it harder for people to get as drunk and get in fights at
Starting point is 00:05:53 kid games i hope so now when i watched this uh king toot appeared very unceremoniously played by will forte and i was thinking you can't just drop a character named king toot in my lab but it turns out he has played this character twice before so this is not the introduction of King Toot he was in like a season 24 episode in a season 30 episode both of which I have not seen yeah I when I went to the page to have like wait this can't be the first time but like even on the wiki page I should watch those episodes but on the wiki page they note of yeah, the old owner of King Toots, who was seen in multiple episodes, has been dropped. And now it's retconned that King Toot owns it. I happen to be that moron.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I guess, you know, but Will Forte, very funny. Yes. He's great. And there were three guys in it who the second they talked, I was like, well, these have to be real guys because they're bad actors uh it's stew grimson dave schultz and tiger williams which uh are apparently famous goons from the world of hockey and they if it if that made you excited to see him then good on you yeah drawn with all their teeth and i wonder if that's this case in real life if they actually have all their teeth you know they're successful enough they can get new teeth or the very least dentures. Yeah. Yeah. And I also like to, I wish they'd have referenced like, Hey Lisa, why don't you play hockey?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Like you're, you were pretty good at hockey too. Remember? Uh, but at least it doesn't end. There's a slight spoilers, but I'm glad it does not end in a championship hockey game, but in an entirely unexpected third act, which I, I approve of. Yes. It was a good episode. And of course there was a new
Starting point is 00:07:25 shorts this month and we all love these shorts don't we every time there's a new one on disney plus i'm like oh boy each one is shorter and selling more things to you yes yeah the simpsons me to the bachelis in feliz navidad yes uh well you know you're like homer we're all like homer in this one i only know andrea bocelli because he has his song time to say goodbye or conte to parade well time to say goodbye it is featured prominently in a couple episodes of sopranos for plot purposes okay so i knew it from that and i actually was so into sopranos that i did put it on like a mix cd just to listen to sometimes i'm not saying i listen to it a million times but i was not aware that the uh visually impaired beloved italian tenor had two children
Starting point is 00:08:17 and that he wants to sing with them now but boy did he i think you're allowed to say blind oh sure i think that's just the word for it which is surprising to me yeah it does well like it's not like sightless or visually impaired you can say blind it's okay i wasn't i was scared to say it i don't know it's the woke it's the woke scolds out there they're after you virus has infected so many of myself no okay but yes it's uh it was the typical fawning over a famous person he does the thing he's most famous for which is sing a song bart sings along with it i do like the joke that homer says hey this isn't valentine's day like sing a christmas song yeah it's mostly just the singing of songs without a lot of gags and it's so slight it's hard to get mad about it but it's just it's a nothing it's built to sell
Starting point is 00:09:02 his uh christmas cd which is not a disney label but it's like universal. It's built to sell his Christmas CD, which is not a Disney label, but it's like Universal Music Group has a deal with Disney. I think that's why they were commissioned to do this. Yeah, it was funny to read the next bit of news we have. In the interview, Al Jean says, you know, they came to us. It's like, well, that's one way to say it, I'm sure. Yeah, but clearly I didn't need to read Al Jean to answer this,
Starting point is 00:09:27 but Andrea Bocelli wanted to impress his kids by having them become Simpsons characters and meet the Simpsons, and so he got his wish, and they did meet the Simpsons. That reminds me of an interview I was reading about the show Wednesday on Netflix. It was about Tim Burton, and the person representing the show was like, well, you know, Tim usually does movies, but something about this project really spoke to him. And it's just like, yes, I can see the dump truck of money being backed up and emptied into his driveway.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And he's like, but I just have to like be in two meetings. All right. Yeah. He directed half of those episodes. Oh, did he? Yeah. Oh, OK. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:03 He really worked. All right. Well, i also think he uh took on that dump truck of money because uh it was covet time and he didn't have a probably a couple projects doll yeah just like all the other disney plus shorts the best funniest stuff is just the slideshow at the end of good drawings yeah hey make a short of those i know they're the pitches for the uh i really hated it than when i went to the disney plus page for it the image up top is that one of homer in the santa suit with huey doing
Starting point is 00:10:32 louie on his lap i should have known it wasn't a real thing in the episode yeah but that's a lie on disney's part to put that at the top it's a mislead and speaking of that there are a few disney jokes and i just i want them to stop because they're so toothless and they just irritate me. And it feels like just like patting Disney on the back for for buying them, essentially. Yeah. Like, hey, we're good sport. Yeah. Just it doesn't feel the same as the Rupert Murdoch jokes.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I just can't. Yeah. I mean, there's the bit of Mickey saying like, hey, you can't do that or whatever. And it but it's also like i don't know get it also just feels weird like get the real voices like i mean dan doesn't okay goofy and nancy any nancy's a all right mickey but it's like just get the real voices then it'll actually feel real i was surprised this was so short because we'll talk about balenciaga at the end of this new segment but i was like how long was was that? That's 10 minutes long.
Starting point is 00:11:25 But I think that was funded through the Disney Plus Cameo account where you give them $50 million and they make you a Simpsons shirt. I think this came from internally within Disney because they wanted to promote something. The budget was totally different between this and the other. I mean, both come from Italian sources, but Balenciaga had a different scale of money. Though I also think probably Silverman uh david silverman had fewer had less time to it's like the entire thing is set in the
Starting point is 00:11:55 living room in front of the tree and it's but i mean it wouldn't be simpsons without something christmassy so i guess on a certain level i'm glad they had a Christmassy thing. But yeah, it's just like... It is just the one living room. And when the characters are singing, it's not like you're shown a sequence that represents the song. You're just looking at the characters singing. Yeah, there's one time, especially when they're singing Feliz Navidad, which they sing fine. They're very good singers. But I was just like, okay, what's going to be an embellishment for this of just them standing there singing and like andrea baccelli moves his shoulders like like to beat him like that's it that's that's the embellishment yeah again it's
Starting point is 00:12:36 it's a trifle it's not worth getting upset about but i i i never like these uh there's worse commercials they've done yeah the star wars one is way worse than this one by far i'm glad they're out of the star wars oh they'll be back uh and there is a new al jean interview about the shorts uh that involves uh him talking about the writing process apparently like with a lot of writers rooms they're just zoom only yeah it's it's it's interesting to hear how remote they are now that was something carolyn omine mentioned a little bit too when i asked about the uh you know you heard that she told us about the crows uh at the writer's room i'm like oh do you guys still see him or are you guys still remote she's like no we're we're still remote in
Starting point is 00:13:15 the writer's room and so it was interesting and my favorite part of the interview is hearing aljean talk about how like yeah we have people in like europe sometimes or people who are working from hawaii so i wonder if that was amina working from hawaii she yeah i wonder uh where she at where she at now but yeah it's i mean for gene's uh purposes it's funny that like he used to he destroyed his own life as well as others his own personal life while working 80-hour weeks, 100-hour weeks on The Simpsons. Now, for 30-ish years later, he can do it remotely and be able to just like, oh, I don't even have to drive to work anymore. Also, obviously, no in-person table reads, which means he went to one of the last ones. Yeah, so sweet, man.
Starting point is 00:14:01 We'll never, you know, now we just got to get to go to the next season premiere party i'm i'm cashing in favors next year i'm gonna say like hey uh let's let's do this you can get on that simpsons ride it'll be dimmer than ever but uh matt selman might be next to you uh he'd uh and he'll be happy to sit next to me yeah i and yeah also aljean pitched what every one of these interviews ends with like, well, what's the next Disney short? And man, his pitch was very Al Jean at the end of it. Yes. Can I say what it is?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yes. Yeah. It's a Sunset Boulevard parody starring Maggie. Yes. Yeah. Which, hey, it could be funny, could not be, but it is referencing a movie from over 70 years ago. Yeah. And also me and Bob love Sunset Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Oh, it's great. It's a great film. I love it it but maybe not appropriate for the maggie shorts let's not have any more maggie shorts i think after you didn't win the oscar uh i would just give up on those yeah and again i was like if you guys want to win the oscar for this short let david silverman actually just fucking do shit and you guys don't write anything i also don't want to see a short about a baby going on a date yeah how. How about we stop with that shit? Yeah. Rugrats is over, guys. Ended a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:15:11 There was a recent GQ video also, another interview style thing. It was with Matt Selman, executive producer, and David Silverman. He's been with the show for a very, very long time since the very beginning. And it's them going over a lot of trivia and facts about the show. I guess one new thing came out, but I had the captions on and I was just paging through the interview by reading it. And it's just like, well, these are things for normies.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And if you listen to our podcast and have heard all the commentaries, these are all stories you've heard before, which is impossible to come up with new stories in these interviews because these people have been talking about the show over and over again. Yeah, they did have like two things
Starting point is 00:15:42 that I was like, okay, that's like 5% more of a story i didn't know but uh i mean it was just neat to see silverman and selman palling around and like uh i think it was funny that aljean in his interview he got a couple questions like boy i think the season's really on a roll this year and he's got to get these questions of like aljean knows it's because he's not working as much as a show runner and silverman even goes like he like hugs selman and goes like this guy's really pushing us into new places it's like yeah this uh if i was algae and i'd be a little grumpy about it but they're also right selman is making the show better this young 51 year old i was looking up
Starting point is 00:16:20 the the writer of the top goon episode i was like, he's a new name to me. How old is he? 45. Youngest writer on The Simpsons ever. But yeah, the most interesting thing to me was one, they talk about a deleted scene of the directors that I've mentioned before from the front where it is, they put a stick of dynamite in a cat's mouth and they're surrounded by artists who are like using it for visual reference for Agent Scratchy. right that's on the dvd right it's on the dvd and they have it on the gq thing and i've talked about it because it feels like the only time i ever saw
Starting point is 00:16:54 carlos paeza draw himself into the show oh really okay and uh he's he's the one guy in the group i'm like well this is all the directors that um more tan individual among them the only not white guy among them he uh he has to be carlos paeza uh and silverman said it got cut because the censors didn't like the the animal violence sure kill kill as many birds as you want on the show and i felt bad for silverman because it's like oh one of his rare appearances of the artists on the show and cameo like the writers all get a big cameo but in that episode a real self-aggrandizing one but the artists no no way nope not gonna happen and yeah that was a fun interview but again if you listen to our podcast listen to commentaries you might have heard all of these stories before i did like selman admitting that he said like on writing the movie he said for a crazy weekend in the script hank
Starting point is 00:17:49 scorpio was the villain and then it was albert brooks who said he didn't want to do hank scorpio again and he made up russ cargill so instead he did just the same voice again and they drew him differently yeah yeah i mean you know albert bro, he is a genius. He's made lots of great movies. He's great in every episode he's in on The Simpsons. He made, I'm going to just say, he made the wrong call there. Yeah, and they were wrong to listen to him. Yeah, but I guess for them it's like, well, if Albert doesn't want to do it, we're not going to make him do Hank Scorpio.
Starting point is 00:18:19 But absolutely the wrong call. And this last news item is barely Sim simpsons related but we need news and this is a big thing that happened that has really died down in the past month because it just happened like in late november where balenciaga the italian fashion brand you know you can buy an 800 t-shirt that looks like you bought it at target and that's the joke yeah that's what they do it's ridiculous but they thought it'd be fun to like prod all the q anon psychos out there by putting basically what amounts to child sex trafficking Easter eggs in their new campaign. Because I can see, I mean, I believe that they're sickos, but I don't think that they're pedophiles, even though the sexual abuse in the fashion industry are like the bedfellows, basically.
Starting point is 00:18:58 No pun intended. Oh, God. Yeah, I'd say they're right behind the catholic church probably in like most abusive uh collective of people but i could see some rich art sicko going wouldn't it be devilish if we prodded culture a bit uh yeah i figure they thought they thought like oh we've done this all the time commenting on popular culture this is just another one of those things yeah but and then yes this is what gets people shot this is what causes mass shootings let's fucking stop it i mean this this is stupid as hell don't do this uh bob who are you to censor
Starting point is 00:19:30 their art you know like no no this is ridiculous it's also i was just thinking about it because i was re-watching all of mr show and it reminds me of the the sketch of the fashion designers who have visions of the apocalypse and they just want like a baby's head on a spike is the design for it. It's such like first draft edgelord shit. Like what if a teddy bear had a dominatrix outfit on? Oh, how devilish.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Could you imagine innocence and sexuality? You know, Italians have no sense of humor. That's what I'm going to say. Yeah. They are not funny. I stick to plumbing and pasta. And you even found, I forgot where it was, but a changed line in a recent Simpsons that they didn't change in the subtitles or the closed captions.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yes, yes. Somebody on our Discord pointed that out where at the last minute they changed the Balenciaga line where Skinner is talking about confiscating a kid's's balenciaga fanny pack they changed it to something else so it was such a hot button issue at that moment that they changed the line in the episode i guess if you're talking about a child wearing balenciaga it's like yeah we're they're they're pretty scared of that yeah they they all have their uh assassination coordinates known yes is that even a joke when you guys are hearing this now? This will go live in about a week and a half, so who knows?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah. But yes, a bad thing to do. And I was surprised that all throughout this, the short never went down, but that's because it is not hosted on Disney+. It is hosted on Balenciaga's YouTube page. So I believe if this was hosted on Disney+, it would be taken down, but it was not. I bet you're right, man. Boy, that they get to host it just on their YouTube page was hosted on Disney+, it would be taken down, but it was not. I bet you're right, man. Boy, that they get to host it just on their YouTube page and not on Disney+. Like they must have really paid a lot of money for that thing.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Like I said, it's their Disney Plus cameo. Yeah, if you're a billion dollar brand, you can definitely make the Simpsons do whatever you want now. Yes, hopefully we'll get that rich one day. I hope so too. Yeah. With your help, we can. So here is some news about us. Let's talk about what's happening in our world, our schedule, and all that good stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:32 So what is happening in January? Well, your favorite podcasters are getting a little lazy because just like last year, and I believe the year before, maybe not, we are taking the first week of January off on the Patreon and the second week of January off on the free feed because our schedule is staggered. Of course, the Patreon people get stuff first. The free feed people wait a week. So that's how it's working out for us. So there will be no new What a Cartoon episode in January as it was last week.
Starting point is 00:21:57 But you will get some bonuses that if you are not on the Patreon at a certain level, you might not have had access to in the past. So there will be something posted for you, but no quote-unquote new content because we need to take a little time off. It's been a busy year. Yeah, it has. It's been a real busy year, a productive year, and a very successful year for us on the Patreon. Thanks to all of you new and old supporters for signing up.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But yes, December, pretty much from thanksgiving until today has been a very very busy uh few weeks yes incredibly busy and i believe there will be another week in the year where we will take that off because we noticed like podcasters can take a week off what no one told me yeah our pals at podcasts arrived and uh and the dill boys they they're leading the way in that yeah hey last podcast on the left uh i think we hate movies are the only people that uh never take the week off we need to tell them like hey you guys can't take a week off it's it's okay but yeah i would so but it's not that you're getting nothing on those weeks off though no sirree yeah like i said you'll get some content that you might not have had access to if you're not a $5 and up patron or even a $10 and up patron.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah, you will have hours of stuff to listen to that might not be new to you. Yes, but hey, we're taking some time off. It's the holidays. Hug your family. Yeah, hug your family. Listen to these old things with them. Tell them like, hey, here's how funny these guys are. Grab their phones.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Download the Patreon app. Sign up. Get get their credit cards we're asking you this uh boy i side note uh there was a very nice person on twitter who let us know that like their child was quoting like oh boy bobby and ahoy we swear a lot yes i you know the new year i'm going i got invited to a royal rumble viewing party at a pal's house and people are bringing their kids there to it who like are like eight uh like seven and ten now wrestling's not for children well i'm just thinking like i am just so used to saying swears whenever i feel like it and i simply can't and when i get into the excitement of wrestling i do like ah fuck he didn't get it now i'm gonna have to like self-censor and be like no no no little kids right here well recently you're posting about your role models as a teen and
Starting point is 00:24:15 young adult and they were all like foul mouth gen x video store clerks yes yeah it's uh it's a problem it's a problem knowledgeable yet prick a problem. Knowledgeable yet prickly, foul-mouthed video store clerks. Those who I grew, wanted to be when I grew up. And for a brief time, I was. Bad influences all around. Like, if I had to pick one to be, it wouldn't be Randall. I had to include Randall because he is the video store clerk. I am Dante.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I am not Randall. Like, if I'm part of that dyad, I am Dante. Well, that makes me Randall. I guess it does, yeah. Well, in body types, I am Dante Fisher. Well, that makes me Randall. I guess it does. Yeah. Well, in body types, we're more,
Starting point is 00:24:48 I'd say that's where we sit. You know what your problem is, Henry? I'm not even supposed to be on this podcast today. Yes, you are. It's scheduled. And that's what's happening in the first week on the Patreon and the second week on the free feed.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Yes, we know it's complicated, but that's how we like to do things here. Let's talk about our schedule for our min series episode so for five dollar and up patrons we have a new talking futurama all about love and rocket it is the episode in which bender dates the ship who is voiced by sigourney weaver yeah we just recorded that one it's a lot of fun it's we're getting into love stuff a month early uh for valentine's day yeah these two valentine's episodes synced up because the next
Starting point is 00:25:25 one we're doing in january is the talking of the hill episode all about and they call it bobby love both are about breakups and and they call it bobby love is the sole episode to win the emmy for best animated show beat the simpsons that year yeah it's uh it is a really great episode that also has a dorky lead character well i guess bobby's dorky bender's a jerk not dorky but dating a character played by a gorgeous movie star in their competing time slot yeah hey that's right sarah michelle galar uh it's i can't wait to do that so we haven't recorded yet but i i also really like that one it it does remind one of being the dorky guy in middle school who might get attention from someone and then wondering if it's real or not. I could talk about all my terrible breakups and how this episode is too accurate.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Oh, boy. I can't wait. Well, you didn't eat a giant steak, though, did you? Look, I'll say I'll find out when we record it. I didn't eat a giant steak steak but i did throw up uh so coming up next in january or what a cartoon movie for january is gonna be dumbo uh the classic it's gonna be let's just say in january we're gonna get ready to dumbo uh like they say in the famous trailer let's get ready to dumbo all right oh god were you alive in 2019 what's going on and that i i wanted to erase from my memory
Starting point is 00:26:46 that was it was the michael buffer dude saying it wasn't it might have been let's get ready for dumbo i don't know but hey we're gonna go back to the feel-good days of 1940 or 41 i forget uh and boy i guess we're gonna have to uh pull out the blu-rays for it because i think the version on disney plus is a little shorter of dumbo it just hit me they don't have whoopi goldberg telling you it's okay i don't think they do i think i think the birds aren't in it really not at all uh i remember hearing that when it first started i mean i guess i got my phone right here i can just pull up disney plus and take a look we of course talking about uh the character james. Beloved. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 You know, I liked that song a lot as a youth. I won't lie. Well, we'll get into it. Yes, we're going back to classic Disney. We had taken a little time off from Disney. But it is a perfect one to follow up Pinocchio. We went from their lavish, gigantic budget to a bit lower budget. in the compromise and the war is about to start and things are tough for old uh for old walton company you know i'm looking at it now and the running time on wikipedia is the same as the running time on disney plus well hey look at that
Starting point is 00:27:57 it comes it even comes with the warning all right i i could be wrong but i swear when disney plus launched i was reading stories that the crows were not on Disney Plus. But I know where the crows are at here. Oh, yep, there they are. Yeah, okay. Oh, you even heard it play. I thought I turned down the volume. You need them in the movie.
Starting point is 00:28:15 They serve a vital role. And yes, of course, the 2019 remake is twice as long because it needs to be. Of course it is. Yeah, that's the Tim Burton touch. He makes it greater. They paint spirals on things. They make it too long. So that's the Tim Burton touch. He makes it greater. They paint spirals on things. They make it too long. So that's what's happening in January.
Starting point is 00:28:28 As for our live show, if you want to go, well, I hope you bought tickets because as of this recording, the current venue that we are in has sold out very quickly. So that's happening Wednesday, January 25th. But we hope to see you there. We got the choppo bump from our pal Matt Chrisman. Yeah, absolutely. And Chris Wade, too. we hope to see you there we got the choppo bump from our pal matt chrisman yeah absolutely and chris wade too thank you to both of them for uh helping promote the show and instantly selling it out as soon as you guys promoted it turns out when a podcast with 200 000 listeners gets a plug
Starting point is 00:28:54 for your live show uh it sells out very quickly uh so yeah we we can't wait to do it uh we have had to wait an entire extra year to do it. Our last live show together, Bob has done a couple of retronauts live since then, but I haven't done a live show since the 2020 Piano Fight show we did for Sketch Fest. So literally three years. It will be three years between our live shows. The one with Jordan Morris, right?
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah, that was great too. And I have been saving a pair of mr plow shoes to wear to that event for three years now yeah yeah i guess it was summer 2020 those release but yes uh it will be available on the podcast feed we will release the live show on the podcast feed if you if you can't make it uh that's the best way to listen to it yeah and you know what uh if you can't be there you can at least be there in spirit because uh the awesome nina matsumoto designed a new shirt inspired by the subject of simpsons predicted it that is on sale at our t public store look for talking simpsons podcast on t public or we did a post for it on the patreon as well uh it is a great great new
Starting point is 00:30:02 t-shirt to join all her other great t-shirts on there. Yes, and just like the other ones, it is based on our current panel. That's right, yes. And you can get it in regular T-version. You can get it in hoodie version. There's so many different ways to get it. There's also always a sale on T-Public, too. So, look, check for yourself. And like all of our shirts, it's legally distinct enough that we're allowed to sell it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Oh, yes. Hey, that could be any kid's bottom of his head. Just because it looks like it could be Bart's head doesn't mean it is. It's not Bart's. You thinking it is is copyright infringement. So, yes, that's what's happening. More scheduling stuff. We're thinking about 2023, what that will hold.
Starting point is 00:30:37 We want to scale back a little bit and work smarter, not harder, but in the real way, not in the way your boss tells you where he really means work harder and shut up. And because of that, so our current schedule, the way it works out is, you know, most Mondays of the month are full. But if there is a month with five Mondays, well, one of those Mondays is blank. And there are four of those five Monday months in the year just because of how the Roman calendar works. Well, we decided to fill those Mondays. So there will be a bonus episode every week on the Talking Simpsons Network. And what we're going to fill those four slots with
Starting point is 00:31:10 is episodes of Blimey About Batman, the animated series. So it'll be four new episodes of that in the new year, throughout the year, in those months with five Mondays. And then we were thinking about our annual miniseries. We don't know what we want to do yet, but we will probably do a month-long miniseries in December of next year to close out the year, just because we've come to the realization that it's very hard to do an 8-13 episode miniseries on top of everything else we're doing,
Starting point is 00:31:36 and for me, on top of Retronauts, and I'm also finishing a book I'm writing. Yes, yeah, and especially the... An extra thing that adds crunch to the end of the year is that we're having to prepare like, well, all right, we're both about to take off a week to two weeks of not recording. We have so much we have to prepare for, and so then it's like, oh, also, let's record eight episodes or even 13 episodes of a miniseries on top of that. It adds a bit. It adds a bit it adds a bit so yeah I'm not making any promises for next year but we'll have a lot more
Starting point is 00:32:08 time to work when we're in our new living situations Henry and I and I think a month long miniseries could justify something of limited appeal like Daria or Duckman things that never win polls I think we can justify doing a month of episodes of shows like that not
Starting point is 00:32:23 necessarily like 10 or 13 or 8 or 6 but I think we can justify doing a month of episodes of shows like that. Not necessarily like 10 or 13 or eight or six, but I think like four or five, that could be a good way to end the year. And on our end, it can retain patrons. Yes. Yeah. Also,
Starting point is 00:32:33 it'll, it'll help everybody in the X-Men spirit. I, I'm up for that. So yeah, to reiterate, uh, again,
Starting point is 00:32:40 uh, in our 2023 schedule, uh, every week we'll have a bonus piece of content for patrons and that means the four Mondays that previously were not full of any content will now have a Batman episode in them and again we will choose the
Starting point is 00:32:54 episodes as we normally do it'll be the same series it'll just be happening I guess quarterly so a little extra bonus for all of you and then probably in December or towards the end of next year we will do a shorter annual min-series uh of a show that's uh probably been on polls for a while but never has won yeah and futurama king of the hill still sticking to their monthly schedule yes yeah and uh yeah i mean uh the i guess the last thing i i wanted to talk about in our general uh news
Starting point is 00:33:21 section was like uh you know just reflecting on the year year. It's been an interesting year for both of us. You know, turns out I'm going to be moving to Seattle. That came out of nowhere in October, but it was a very, very happy surprise. But I just, you know, I look back at the list of all the stuff we've done this year, and I'm really proud of everything we've done. I think we've produced, when I look at it all, I'm like, wow, we really did all the stuff we've done this year and i'm uh i'm really proud of everything we've done i i think we've produced when i look at it all i'm like wow we really did all that stuff like it feels like so much i can't believe it i can't believe it either uh there's been so many podcasts so many big ones too uh i mean this is uh you're a big first for us the first time we turned 40
Starting point is 00:33:59 uh the first time we got covid and uh, after five years, the network turned five, too. Yeah, yeah. And then after five years of the network, we finally did a Roger Rabbit episode, and it was seven hours long. Yeah. And if you combine it with the sequels chat episode, we did 10 hours just on Roger Rabbit this year. Like, yeah, that we did that, that we did. We had so many great guests. I don't want to, if I just name them all,
Starting point is 00:34:29 we had every guest was great. There was no bad guest this year. There was one, but I won't say who it is. But yeah, I mean, that we started the year with, you know, I love that we did the Saturday morning's all-star hits that we had on Scott Gairner, you know, to talk about his work on it. Like, that was so great. I loved getting to interview Susie Dieter and Lou Morton
Starting point is 00:34:49 like I think uh please listen if you still haven't listened to those please do like Susie Dieter especially she she gets real with us guys and you need to listen to that like yeah I mean we did scale back on interviews because uh people don't care that much about them compared to other podcasts but there's a lot of valuable information and those were great chats we had with both of We did scale back on interviews because people don't care that much about them compared to other podcasts, but there's a lot of valuable information, and those were great chats we had with both of those great artists and writers. Yeah, and we finally got – we had several guests we'd been trying to get for a while, and we finally got them this year. And, yeah, it was – again, I don't want to name everybody.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It was great. And then, yeah, looking back at, like, especially – like especially just to know how much like research we put into every especially what a cartoon all year long and like looking at the movies like all the work like like the toy story i think was story story three i think our second longest one of the year after uh roger rabbit yeah i'm looking at all of the episodes now just as a reminder and yeah toy story, that was a really great one for me to do. And I'm looking forward. I suspect maybe four will come in the new year because why not close out the Tetralogy, whatever made up word you want to use.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Quadrilogy, I don't know. Yeah, we did so many great ones and it's easy to forget. It's hard to wallow in your own crapulence about it because for you for us it is like you know well all right we recorded that one we got another thing to record now like move on to the next thing to research and and you can't look back as much so yeah it's been it's been nice to reflect uh just this last year and how much we did yes thanks for supporting us throughout 2022 and we hope you stick around for 2023 and i will also say say that we scaled back last year to make only one What a Cartoon episode per month.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And that has made all those episodes so much better, I think. And I really appreciate having more time. With a few of mine, I was able to watch the entire series before doing an episode, which could have never happened in the past when it was a weekly show. So yeah, I appreciate having that much more time
Starting point is 00:36:43 to work on these episodes to make them better and also much, much oh yes yeah yeah the uh we couldn't do if we were doing two even two a month we could not talk about uh sam and max for the three hours it deserves to be talked about yeah i don't know how we did them weekly and with a movie and with weekly talking simpsons every week and not and note in the community podcast in addition to it not uh as a one of the weeks yes we had something to prove and then we did we proved it and now we can just relax a little bit more so uh let's talk about what we've been playing and watching that's not necessarily related to the shows that we talk about as for me in terms of playing stuff i've basically just been playing the
Starting point is 00:37:25 uh the newer hitman trilogy i got into the first game uh because i was previewing at the time and i reviewed a lot of the episodes the second game came out when i had just met my future wife so i was very busy with uh dating and traveling and everything and then the third game came out in 2021 so i completely missed it but uh i am so getting back into these games and if you miss metal gear this is like the next evolution of that kind of stealth uh gameplay but uh that is not punishing at all and it's so much fun to play it's it always i should play it more i've only played it a teeny bit in my life but it's such an interesting playground to mess around in yeah the levels are incredibly dense and they'll start you
Starting point is 00:38:05 off with just basically like okay these are your two targets do whatever you need to do in this world disguise yourself as whoever you need to disguise yourself as there's like little stories there's things you can miss you have to eavesdrop on people it's kind of intimidating at first but uh and i just trying to think of a way to tweet this without getting banned but in today's day and age it's a fun experience to play a game where you're primarily killing rich sickos that uh yeah boy you really can't say that if you if you if that got popular it could kill the hitman franchise in general yes it might get to stop being made the entire game is about killing awful rich people to the point where in 2016 like the first mission you play, now that I realize this,
Starting point is 00:38:46 it's kind of weird. The woman you have to kill is basically like Ghislaine Maxwell. Oh, oh, wow. I didn't know that. Yes. I mean, it totally makes sense. Boy, that's like Hitman
Starting point is 00:38:55 gets grandfathered in kind of. You could never pitch this game as a AAA game now. No, that'd be like, oh, killing rich people, we don't know about that. But there's also like a lot of like inherent classism in the game that is commenting upon because the people the powerful people you have to kill have so many people under them and you can disguise yourself as any of them
Starting point is 00:39:13 because they don't know their faces or names right yes yeah you can be an invisible servant or whatever it it's actually similar to that bit in uh tokyo godfather yes exactly but yeah hitman uh they always go on sale at At least play the first one. But boy, I'm having so much fun. I've only been playing that since November. And what, the developers own the IP now, right? They bought it back from Square Enix a while ago. It seemed like Square
Starting point is 00:39:36 Enix didn't know what the hell they were doing with Hitman. Yeah, it was like these games are so good and they just didn't know what to do with them. But yeah, please play them. They're super great. As for watching, I've been watching some anime and some stop motion anime so i don't know why i decided to watch it but i heard good things about it when it was new and i watched the anime odd taxi it's a very good so i thought it was like kind of like a boring slice of life meeting everyday people in their everyday lives kind of anime i think that's how somebody had
Starting point is 00:40:03 talked about it maybe they didn't watch the whole thing because odd taxi is like a david lynchian mystery oh really uh where there are so many ongoing stories and they all like converge at the end in a very satisfying way so i can't say much about it but without spoiling anything but it's a very good series uh that really uh tells a mystery well i think how many episodes is uh 13 oh a nice nice digestible 13 what's uh netflix or crunchy roll crunchy roll yeah and there is a dub too um i found that out too late but uh it's really really good and i don't want to spoil anything also it's an older show although there's a newer season of it out uh with my wife i've been watching uh real akuma and kauru. This came out around the same time as
Starting point is 00:40:45 Aggretsuko and they're both Sanrio productions and I think this got shat on a bit because Aggretsuko was the immediately funny, zany, wacky, colorful and this one is very slow paced and melancholy but I might be enjoying this a little more than Aggretsuko.
Starting point is 00:41:01 I watched it when it first came out the first like four episodes and i fell off it too i think uh well it was also like my husband in his old job was not having the best time there and so he wasn't having a lot of fun watching another show about malaise at a job i think a lot of it is about being a sad adult. A lot of it is about having creepy bear roommates that have no explanation about why they're there or why they wear costumes. It's adorable character like stop motion in it. And also it reminded me of like, all right, Kauru. I the only Kauru I know is the character in Evangelion who's a man.
Starting point is 00:41:41 But part of the thing with that character having that name is that or i should say a teen boy not a man though really he's an ageless angel when you think he's really a thousand years old so we can draw him naked yeah but anyway it just reminded me like oh caru is a girl's name too and that uh but yeah it didn't gretzko when both of them came out together i was like how did san rio identify that they have such an audience? Like, well, if you like Sanrio stuff as an adult, you're probably like upset at your job and feel like you wasted your life. And lonely. Also very lonely woman.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Yes. And other people are more successful than you and you're kind of quietly resentful about it. But yeah, if you didn't give it a chance back in 2019, check it out. I didn't even realize it was stop motion because I don't think I had seen enough of it. I thought it was like CG faking stop motion but no it's real stop motion and Rilakkuma is a cute bear I like him in general the all Rilakkuma family
Starting point is 00:42:31 I wondered if now I want to give a shot to the new Gudetama now has a Sanrio Netflix show as well that's true it's about a baby and an abortion having fun that's how my wife put it, I think. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But yes, that's what I've been watching. As for movies, I saw all the Evangelion movies. We'll talk about those in a bit. I also saw, have you heard of Irma Vep? I have not seen this movie. Irma Vep. I know it as a name, but I don't know the movie now. It's a French movie uh from 96
Starting point is 00:43:07 i want to say uh it stars maggie chung and she placed herself uh going to france to be in a remake of a french silent movie and it's a sort of fly on the wall perspective of uh like a movie production falling apart with also the perspective of a foreigner being in Japan who does not sorry a foreigner being in France who does not speak French oh interesting yes well and I love Maggie Chung she's a great actress oh every letterboxd review was like Maggie Chung in a cat suit
Starting point is 00:43:36 that's it that's the review okay and I like her no matter what she wears yes yes very attractive in the movie but it's also a good movie outside of that. And yeah, it was just fun to watch a non-Hollywood, non-formulaic movie with a lot of loose ends that aren't tied up, just like in life. Man, that's, have you, yeah, I guess Maggie Chung stars in a lot of movies like that,
Starting point is 00:43:57 I think. Yeah. And she hasn't starred in a movie in like 20 years, though. She's out of the biz. Well, hey, good for her. And I saw the movie everyone's been watching in she's out of the biz now hey good for her and i saw the movie everyone's been watching in the past couple of weeks monkey bone this summer get boned you uh is as part of i haven't watched yet as part of the blank check uh thing i i only recently put
Starting point is 00:44:16 on in the background james and the giant peach just to like while listening to their podcast on that one well it's i'd never seen it before because it came out when I was 19 and I thought, absolutely no way am I ever seeing this. But then a podcast did an episode about it, so I thought, okay, give this a chance. There's some interesting production design in this movie. Henry Salk does not know how to tell a story worth a damn. In the next movie I'll talk about, he got a little better. But yeah, Monkeybone, a lot of interesting ideas. It feels like, and they said this on Blank Check, it feels like this movie came out in 2001 it is the most like 90s ass vibe movie it feels
Starting point is 00:44:49 like it'd be more at home in like the indie comic world of 1994 and i think the comic it's based on is from like 92 or something i i had heard that this uh i heard bob odenkirk describe it as like selleck's dream movie like it was his blank check like this was going to be him proving he's not tim burton's boy anymore i again i watched it on comedy central with commercials once and i remember thinking bob odenkirk and dave foley and uh and chris katan were funny i remember that i mean it may be hard to imagine anyone saying this in 2022 but the arrival of chris katan is a blessing in this movie uh because god love and brendan frazier i don't frazier i don't think he's a good comedic lead uh because he's like too real of an actor i think
Starting point is 00:45:37 and i think that's being proved in his recent uh movies as well yeah but uh he can't carry this movie he can't carry looney tunes back in action but then in the in the third act when uh bob odenkirk and chris katana appear you're like oh these are people that know what comedy is and know how to do it uh you know i remember liking him all right in uh george of the jungle but he has to play it much broader and stupider and it's a kid's movie it's it's not it's not on the level that monkey bone's trying to perform at yeah at a certain point in the movie like for about 20 minutes he's playing a monkey the spirit of monkey bone inhabiting his body and he's got to act like a monkey and it's i think uh i think my wife said this or maybe griffin newman i get them confused
Starting point is 00:46:19 all the time uh it's like you have a guy inhabited by a monkey and Chris Kattan is not playing him it does seem like miscasting doesn't it yeah but it's like they weren't going to make a 80 million dollar Chris Kattan movie in 2001 I mean I was also watching George of the Jungle to like ogle uh Brendan Fraser like he looks uh he is probably at the peak of his body at that time and I I still find him attractive now don't get me wrong but yes and i also saw coralline again more blank check watch alongs uh then never saw it before uh once again henry sallock bad at storytelling which is i hear the same with wendell and while which i'm gonna see at some point soon but uh yeah i i can see why people like this movie there's a
Starting point is 00:47:01 lot of cool set pieces and uh it's a little rougher than Paranorman in ways I like and ways I don't like. You can tell that they're not using the same techniques that they would use in Paranorman, like CGI molding every face and expression. So it feels more like stop motion in a weird way than Paranorman did,
Starting point is 00:47:18 even though it's not technically as sound as that movie. Well, it's good after doing Paranorman, now you've seen laika's first movie too yeah and that it does i i've been listening to a couple of them and they definitely seem to identify the like you know maybe selleck's not the easiest to work with too perhaps but uh that that coralline too he had a good book to uh to adapt as well and withmare Before Christmas, it's like they handed him the opera he was going to film.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And there was no deviating from that. So yeah, those are the movies I saw. I think that's it. And also, I'll let you talk about Beetlejuice because we saw that together, the musical. And I want to introduce a thing I want to call Bob's Book Corner. Where our brains are growing large because we're reading every day. It's been a
Starting point is 00:48:04 stressful couple of months. So my new routine has been after I tuck Louie in and before dinner, I'll read for about an hour, an hour and a half. And I've read like five books this month. Holy cow. And I used to read like 30 to 40 books a year. And then the Patreon started. And then I had no time, which I'm not complaining, but it's just like running a business does take a lot of your free time so I read of notes I read the Kiki's Delivery
Starting point is 00:48:27 Service novel which came out for the first time in 2020 in English wow how you would sell so many of those books I can't believe it took him that long to localize it like I wonder if the author just held out for a while like but that's crazy
Starting point is 00:48:43 it took that long I don't know why it took this long. Apparently, there were four other books in the series in Japan. Oh, neat. Written after the movie became popular, of course. Like Roger Rabbit. Yes, exactly. Hopefully, they're better than those books. But I was surprised by how much was the same.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Obviously, in the movie, the blimp scene at the end comes out of nowhere. That was fully invented just to give it an exciting ending. Well we know how Miyazaki feels about aircraft. Right. But in the book Tombo is a much lesser character but he is in an aviation club. Okay. But what I like about the book slightly more even though I love the movie. I'd rather watch the movie than read
Starting point is 00:49:18 the book even though I enjoyed the book. Is that the kids in the book act like actual bratty kids instead of Miyazaki's idealized children. It's just like the hard worker who gets down sometimes but never gives up, and they've got such great spirit. No, Kiki is a little brat sometimes, and she pushes back against rude customers.
Starting point is 00:49:37 And we meet Tombo because he steals her broom because he wants to use it to fly. Damn, man. That is more realistic, but you're right. Miyazaki, he wouldn't want to have a bad kid acting bad on screen because that might uh he would think it would worsen the children of today yes it's all about imparting those values but it was like uh it's like a two-hour read and it's fun you can see what they change the finale in the book this is not a spoiler it's just like
Starting point is 00:50:01 a bunch of adventures with Kiki the finale of the book is like the musicians want to put on a concert but their instruments are on a train that's going away from the town she's got to basically like do a train robbery and string all the instruments behind her and fly them back to the musicians it's not as exciting as like a blimp accident but it's the big set piece that ends the book that's that's a fun ending okay now i know it's a quick read maybe i'll give it a read because you know i love kiki too yes i was happy i finally get to read it's a quick read. Maybe I'll give it a read because you know I love Kiki, too. Yes, I was happy I finally get to read it. And also, I read for the first time A Christmas Carol. Never read the original text in my life before. And I read the Penguin version with lots of footnotes so you can get all the current day references Dickens was throwing in there.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Oh, nice. Oh, I want to check that out. I read it once in high school just to read it. And I don't know if you had the same problem I had then, which was the Muppet Christmas Carol is so memorable to me that when the lines that were said directly by Gonzo in the movie are written on the page, I'm like, I just hear Gonzo's voice in my head. Yeah, including Tiny Tim who did not die. That's in the text. I know. When I would read it, I heard gonzo's big like who did not die it's so great and having read this i now think the muppet version is definitive because
Starting point is 00:51:12 in this uh story the narrator makes his presence known he's not like walking around with the characters but he's got a point of view he's ruminating on things he's like a character in the novel and that is removed from every adaptation because like how are you going to do that have a narrator walk around well that's what the muppet version did that's how you have a fucking muppet like the muppets you're right okay thank you bob this finally forever confirms that the muppet christmas carol is the best christmas carol and i mean the narrator talks a lot because dickens is getting paid by the word so he's like marley was as dead as a doornail but why is a doornail the deadest kind of nail I would think a coffin nail would be the deadest kind of nail and he goes on and on
Starting point is 00:51:47 and on about three pages he's like you gotta know how dead this guy was because if you don't know how dead he is you're not going to buy anything that happens next okay he's so dead that's why that's why Godzilla the movie keeps hitting it I was like and you gotta know the Marley's were dead okay yeah hey there's only one Marley in the book
Starting point is 00:52:03 yeah well see that's that's the biggest change they made other than adding Muppets is that they have to have two. You got to have Statler and Waldorf, so you need two Marley's. And not to go on too long about this, but the book is very funny because when he goes with the Ghost of Christmas Future, he is in such deep denial that it takes him forever to understand what's going on. He's like, this person who died, boy, boy he was a bad guy show me more about him he's certainly not me this bad businessman who died and not until he sees the grave does he realize it takes so so long it's it's part of the fun that he's so in denial i think that he's i think i i forget if it's in the muppets or a different adaptation one of the times I've seen it where Scrooge, because we're both Carol heads, but where Scrooge goes like, oh, I get why you're showing me this.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I could end up like this guy, right? This guy's a jerk and you don't want me to be like him. Which also, you know, if you're seeing your own death in front of you, you probably would be in extreme denial too. Like it's easy to be on the outside and be like stupid old scrooge it's you it's it is so funny though because it's like okay the past guy showed me me in the past present guy showed me me in the present future guy showed me some other person for no reason and i also read uh i've never read any of this world books before but i read the first one apparently it's not even a good one but i really enjoyed it and as soon as i put i read one on twitter i got a billion replies of very excited disc world fans you'll open up yeah i i've read a lot of this in the
Starting point is 00:53:30 past i read a bit of disc world i'll say five books i read five books in disc world but the dangerous thing with disc world is like then people tell you well because it he didn't write the first book uh the late great terry pratchett didn't write the first book for it to be a whole universe. So there's stuff that doesn't make sense in future things. Yeah. And if you Google, like, which order do I read these in, it shows you, like, well, these books are about these characters and these are about these and so on and so on. And there's like 41 books. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:00 The ones I read the most of, I did like his young adult one about a girl witch that was, I think, done in response to Harry Potter. And I also really love his police procedural ones with the Night Watch, I believe they're called. Oh, yeah, yeah. I always recommended that one as well. Thud is a really good one. I like because it is about how cops are racist, but they're racist against werewolves. Fair enough. but they're racist against werewolves uh and also there's a great i mean also terry pratchett is more of an sjw in his writing for stuff than even uh this was a point made in that uh that great
Starting point is 00:54:32 youtuber with the skull sean uh when he was talking about harry potter and reviewing those books for being bad he's like uh wow terry pratchett is writing in the same style 100 times better in the same kind of subject yes i recommend them and leave your discord recommendations below i'm sure that's what all the comments will be because of our audience and i i read terry i got introduced by terry pratchett by reading good omens because i was a big sandman fan was reading neil gaiman and so yeah yeah but yeah that's that's it for me uh read a book folks you can't click on it. Don't try.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Well, another book talk. Video games. I played a few. So I have been playing a bit of the Marvel Midnight Suns game, which is by Firaxis, the XCOM people. Though it's not really an XCOM game. They certainly dumbed down the X. Well, that sounds pejorative, but it is a simplified x-com style it is turn-based you do move people around but no grids not as punishing so there's that there's the new mario and rabbits game there's tactics ogre there's another one there's so many tactics games there's
Starting point is 00:55:37 a front mission mission remake yeah and there's like six turn-based tactics games and in a month fire emblem engage comes out too engage yeah there's there are too many tactics games and in a month fire emblem engage comes out too engage yeah there's there are too many tactics games and i cannot play all of them i have to i would in a quieter year and this i didn't even have advanced wars this year to play thanks to vladimir putin yeah what the yeah that's that's true we did an episode about that for retronauts in march when it was supposed to come out yeah yeah and it still has no release date. But yeah, Call of Duty comes out every year. I know.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Well, Nintendo has a little more shame, I guess. But so Midnight Suns is fun because it's, I like playing with all my favorite Marvel pals, but also you get to basically have the hangout sections of Mass Effect, but with all these marvel characters though of course they can't have sex because they're marvel characters but uh and then i played a little more bayonetta 3 i'm in chapter 7 now uh i'm still a bit but i haven't finished it yet like you have did you get to viola yet i don't think i have well you would know because
Starting point is 00:56:41 it's a good new character the controls the jean stage, the first Jean stage was like, whoa, look at that. So that was really interesting. Not to spoil anyone because I'm replaying the first game and I won't spoil you on the end of the third game, although people have wrote about the ending a lot when it came out. If you played the first game, you should know what the twist is the second you start playing the third game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:02 It's all on the page in a very explicit way. And and i was like why did nobody saw this ending coming in the third game it's all like foreshadowed in the first game the first game has always had well i mean the first game has extreme foreshadowing they're like oh who could this little girl be i don't know she sounds like bayonetta doesn't she like yeah Like, yeah. Yeah. They're always very obvious. Yeah. I mean, I will say in the first game, I'm just saying this directly, no commentary. Bayonetta and I believe his name is Luca.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yeah, yeah. They are both like a mother and father figure to a little girl who has a little cat named Cheshire. Think about it. Oh, well, yes. I am not sure what you're talking about. No, no. Don't think about it. Actually, don't think about it. well yes but i i'm not sure what you're talking about no no don't think about it actually don't think about it don't have fun playing the best action game of the year like it it totally deserved that and i'm so happy because i feel i mean i'm sure it's sold well
Starting point is 00:57:55 i've complained about this last time but it's so good and i can't wait to play through it again yeah i was very happy it won at the game Awards. Not that the Game Awards fucking matters at all. It's bullshit. But when something I like wins, then it's good. Yes, exactly. I thought the whole time, I haven't touched God of War Ragnarok. I'm sure it's good. They make good AAA games.
Starting point is 00:58:19 The Sony game machine is great at making that type of game. I was so worried, though, that it was going to beat Elden Ring for game of the year because it was winning a lot of awards early in that show but fortunately elden ring won game of the year and i was satisfied i was a bit worried too even though i know it's a well-made game uh i think elden ring is superior yes absolutely well and we say that without having played it so so there but i've heard enough about it yeah uh no i also they made all the announcements i really like the hades 2 announcement that was the one that excited me the most at all the announcements but uh and i played a bit more of the rabbits game as well as tons of marvel snap i cannot stop playing that snap i just how much money have you spent can you
Starting point is 00:58:58 admit uh let's say if no let's say a, wow. This is how they make their money. Well, so look, I... Henry, you're what they call a whale. No, I'm not a whale. I don't. Look, it's the season pass. I was going to say $50. I spent $50 on in-game currency. And I was like, yeah, that's all I spent.
Starting point is 00:59:18 But it's like, no, you have a month pass every month. You spend $15 on if you want some nice variants. But, man, you should see that. I got such a cool Venom variant and a She-Hulk variant and Spider-Man variant. have a month pass every month you spend 15 bucks on if you want some nice variants but man you should see that i got such a cool venom variant and she hulk variant and spider-man well i i spent 15 bucks a month on an mmo i haven't played in a year so we're even yeah it's not so bad and actually you know what i just bought a bunch of uh amazon gift card or on amazon i bought a couple apple gift cards for a 10 discount so really it's not even $100. It's like $90. And so, you know, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It's fine. But it is, if it wasn't for Elden Ring, I would actually say my game of the year is Marvel Snap because I have played it so much I cannot stop playing it. I think my game of the year is Bane out of three. Whoa, over Elden Ring? Man, that's crazy. But Elden Ring's a solid number two.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I will write my game of the year list at the end of the year. look out for it okay i'll i now i i will i will meet you on that challenge and also yes we've both been playing a lot of pikmin uh we've we've destroyed some uh some uh mushrooms together recently in their new improved mushroom setup i i like the new mushroom uh revisions i guess you want to call it at first i didn't like it but now i do like it i like that it takes a couple days for a big one and you actually get to destroy mushrooms with like five people instead of just by yourself for 20 minutes yeah all right uh watching stuff though i'm in season four of the mr show rewatch it's a great show the only thing that's weird is occasionally a character will say a word or or someone will play race they're not and i'm like yeah this was 1997 or you'll see jay johnston being arrested or something and you're like well this feels weird do we know if he was ever arrested no i don't think he was uh but uh and
Starting point is 01:00:56 yes i also watched uh with bob in the movie theater on imax evangelion 3.0 plus 1.0, thrice upon a time. I kind of wish it was good seeing it subtitled to hear the Japanese voices, but they have a deluge of information there. It's probably better you have a dub for. They mostly stuck the landing. I watched all of these, I think
Starting point is 01:01:20 after the last talk to the audience. I can't remember. I think so. I think so. I think that third one is just terrible. This one i i thought it was the stuff that they always tease you about in the um they always tease in the show and in the movie sometimes where it's like you get a little taste of what the what's happening in the world outside of this conflict but that's all you get i my favorite part of this movie was like the 45 minutes in which let's just chill out in the world and see how people are adapting and i wish the entire movie was that but then it's an insane set piece at the end where there's like five different kinds of apocalypses you have to figure
Starting point is 01:01:53 out which one is the right one and uh everything yeah there's a ton of metatextual stuff happening all at once too but i still was immensely satisfied with it by watching the end of it. Like the thematic conclusions. Now, look, if I have to, it would be another five-hour podcast, probably longer than our end of Evangelion one, to try to even figure out exactly what happens at the end of that movie. But thematically and symbolically what happens at the end is very satisfying to me, personally, as somebody who has lived my entire adult life projecting emotions onto the Evangelion series.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Well, no, you have to fight your dad. I will have to fight him someday. And also a good combo with all that Eva stuff is I want to tell people to watch this YouTube video on Hideaki Anno's career. It's called The Hideaki Anno Problem. The account is steven uh it's it's steven but with an m at the end of it he's uh it's a British guy he's done a lot of uh videos on anime but this is for real three hours and three dense hours about the entire career of Anno with a ton of quotes like sourced from Japanese interviews
Starting point is 01:03:04 with a lot of even some stuff I didn't know and we've done literally four podcasts on on uh Hideo Akiyano's work so it's uh it's really good the second I watched it I sent it to Bob I sent it to Ian Jones Cordy I sent it to Toby Jones I was telling him this is you guys got to watch this like this is great very well researched uh i have to finish watching it but it's very dense it goes over the entire like career from the very beginning and uh and yeah the only christmasy thing i have watched is the muppet christmas carol we were just talking about because you got to go to the extras page on disney plus but you can watch Muppet Christmas Carol with when love is gone restored to its proper place in the film so you don't watch it as a separate deleted scenes though you could do that but it
Starting point is 01:03:53 is now the restored full cut of the movie that's great it's a great song and after you watch the song you realize how often they play it in the movie or they play bits of it that fucking Jeffrey Katzenberg man he ruined it he ruined it and then speaking of musicals me and bob porter partaked in a musical together yes beetlejuice the musical we can't say it two more times it's uh it's a show about death it's uh it was fun i i've seen i saw a different musical this year hadestown which i thought was better as a musical but beetlejuice was a lot of fun i enjoyed seeing it and saw a different musical this year hadestown which i thought was better as a musical but beetlejuice was a lot of fun i enjoyed seeing it and i'm glad you gave me a free expensive
Starting point is 01:04:30 tickets yeah my my husband could not make it and uh we were like oh let's let's uh take bob to it and yeah it was downtown san francisco at uh at the theater it's uh for the whole of the year it was a lot of fun uh the only jeers i would give was to the people sitting behind us during the show yes they had a real uh bachelorette party at a stand-up show vibe to them and i think you know what that means when i say it's they showed up 30 minutes late and then talked through the whole goddamn thing thinking that them realizing getting obvious jokes in the show that are shouted at you they're like oh that's what the joke is like yeah we fuck oh are they teasing a harry belafonte song yeah we
Starting point is 01:05:12 all seen the fucking movie we know what song they're teasing yeah it was uh they almost got i mean you don't know what people are going to do in public there was no metal detector there they could have pulled a gun on me if i yelled at them so yeah i i did flip them off once during the thing i don't know if they saw it or not but they they didn't stop talking that's for sure no they didn't i guess i guess the one thing i would say about it it was fun but i feel like they were advised to steer very far away from anything elfman-y at all because they don't reinterpret any of the elfman songs into uh musical songs and they don't actually stick to the vibe of his music it's like a wholly different vibe to the point where Lydia has like her own like let it go
Starting point is 01:05:50 ballad yeah yeah they were fine songs that I did none of them stuck with me but I was expecting like them to turn the Beetlejuice theme into a song which yes it's obvious but you're also seeing the Beetlejuice musical yes we're having Beetlejuice yell at you the whole time like yeah I know the beetlejuice musical yes we're having beetlejuice yell at you
Starting point is 01:06:05 the whole time like yeah i know i'm in a musical and we're gonna have a lot of fun so shut the fuck up like i loved where he said like fuck brigadoon that was a fun one uh and also he does a lot of coke during the show and but yeah it's uh it was a lot of it was a good time and i haven't seen much else i have big plans with the family over the holidays as well with my husband when he comes into town i'll report back for stuff i'm gonna see that new avatar i'm gonna see far too many movies i'm gonna be in vancouver for two and a half weeks with my sweet sweet wife you're gonna be mr movies uh yeah and also i'm gonna watch the new last bit of the new season of jojo's bizarre adventure finally so that's that's in the plans but we've created our own respective lists nina and i have the things you want to watch you gotta plan it out you know yes i agree
Starting point is 01:06:48 and i'll watch a few things with my mom uh and stepdad too i'm bringing bringing my dvd copy of the three godfathers with me uh which i didn't list because i watched it for the tokyo godfathers podcast but i'm bringing it with me i'm sure my stepdad will love watching a john wayne movie set on christmas during my my Christmas trip there. So now we're going to move on to questions and comments for Talking Simpsons and other podcasts. And a note about these, because of the holidays, we're recording this a week earlier than we normally would. And because of that, there will be fewer questions than normal, but we'll get to the ones that we missed next time. So let's start off here with Homer Alone.
Starting point is 01:07:24 And Matt says, on the history of morning show shock jock hoaxes i think the bill and marty joke in this episode may be a reference to a bit from a pair of la morning show hosts that was very infamous during this era back in 1990 long time k-rock morning jocks kevin and bean had a buddy call in for a segment called confess your crime to make a fake murder confession about killing his girlfriend. The gag went way over the line. The L.A. Sheriff's opened an investigation, and it was even featured on Unsolved Mysteries.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Through it all, Kevin and Bean played it all like it was genuine. The denouement came 10 months later when they were caught discussing the hoax on an internal phone call monitored by the radio station. The end result was that the sham was revealed, Kevin and bean had to perform 150 hours of community service and k-rock was reprimanded by the fcc the lightest penalty the fcc could issue i'm sure shock jock expert and friend of the show murder brian probably knows even more about this case remarkably kevin and bean continued to host the same show for decades i know ke Kevin and Bean is like a name of people in LA listen to. To know that they created like a hoax
Starting point is 01:08:30 that would piss off like the... Cops do not like having their time wasted on a fake murder. That I am shocked they got... I am shocked by these jocks that they got to stay on the air after that for so long. And I'm glad Matt mentioned Murder Brian, quinnby uh because his patreon show uh shocktober on the street fight uh patreon
Starting point is 01:08:51 is very good and it lets you know how many of these uh ancient shock jocks built their career off of fake prank calls especially don imus god all these lying fake prank callers don imus became famous because he had a frank prank call he had a fake prank phone call, I said it, where he called McDonald's in quotes and said, I want 10,000 cheeseburgers. Can I order 10,000 cheeseburgers?
Starting point is 01:09:11 And that was essentially the bit. You're right to look confused. Boy, I guess prank phone calls got better after that, I suppose. It's not even an impressive prank. Well, I'd like to get, if I could,
Starting point is 01:09:23 1,200 hamburgers. 12? Pardon me, sir? 1,200 hamb prank. Well, I'd like to get, if I could, 1,200 hamburgers. 12? Pardon me, sir? 1,200 hamburgers is what we'd like to get. We've got a troop movement scheduled, one with the local colleges, and I'd like to get some lunches to go. Just a moment. I'm going to have to ask my – could you hold on for just a moment, sir?
Starting point is 01:09:42 There's a guy here who's a sergeant with the National Guard, and he wants 1,200 hamburgers. Well, Brian has done a lot of the gut shot now of him talking about the Greg Gutfeld show. And yeah, guys, listen to me on Street Fight this month if you haven't yet. It was a great, fun appearance on there. Sorry, it was 1,200 hamburgers. Oh, 1,200. It was him asking a man for too many hamburgers, and that's how he became famous it wasn't even a real mcdonald's employee that he was talking to that it was all fake i'm pretty sure it was and yes you can buy a record of this oh man that sucks yeah uh you
Starting point is 01:10:15 that guy sucks in so many ways andrew says about the same episode love to talk about the maternity paternity leave something many don't realize about this is that for many jobs paternal leave is just a promise that you won't be fired for taking time off to care for your newborn most jobs won't pay you for that time unless you have other leave accrued also they don't even have to give you parental leave if you've worked there for less than a year yeah it's uh pretty awful i even uh middle of the road democrats are starting to at least talk about paid family leave as a thing that needs to happen it'd be made a law in this country we're just we're just coming off a major labor dispute in america where railroad workers wanted a week of sick time and thankfully uh thanks to a bipartisan effort we made their strike illegal oh god that
Starting point is 01:11:04 pissed me off yeah you know brandon's on thin ice with me first he says my student loan debt has been relieved then he says that was a mistake and now this and what a fun email to get the like you're actually not getting thousands of dollars back we were wrong and it was like uh uh they didn't say we messed up it's like due to a vendor issue or something it's just like hey the email it's it's the email's problem not ours it's a it is protecting them from any legal liability that's yeah brandon man we know you we promised you hope but uh yeah they took away the hope after the midterms that's uh yeah you know what it's funny that vendor mistake came after the they
Starting point is 01:11:40 want or the did better in the midterms than expected like the democrats uh yeah but also the paternal leave thing i have my own paternal leave regrets i i was never a person who thought that a maternity leave was wrong but i in the past had a dumb thought of like uh paternity leave the guy's just taking it easy i think i base that on my own father being uh helping not at all with newborns and thinking like oh if i you know if the father takes off time he's probably not doing anything that's not the case with people but i there was a dude at a job a long time ago who i didn't like who he was gone for like three months on paternity leave as he should have been but i was like god this guy sucks and now he he this guy's terrible at working with me and he got three months off for free with
Starting point is 01:12:31 his fucking kid like this guy sucks it sounds generous and for most places it is but it is funny like you get three months to love your child then abandon that child or it's up to you like don't don't parent him anymore i again though this guy also he owns a house in this city that he like inherited from parents and he had a blessed he's that guy sucked but even people who suck deserve a paternity that's our parental leave that's our stance yes uh so up next we have weekend at burnsies and riley says i work at a pot shop in washington state we're the furthest shop east of Seattle before you cross the mountains. This means most people heading to the biggest concert venue in central Washington, the gorge stop at our store on the way. One week there is the annual Dave
Starting point is 01:13:13 Matthews concert. This has me explaining the difference between THC and CBD to middle-aged gen Xers who work for Microsoft. The next week is the fish concert. We always stock up on Febreze for that one. There's also a lot of crossover in the event diagram for those two and yes the dave matthews band doesn't rock damn so those feelings you have when you are drunk are not true that's so funny the to know that like they work right like the the last stuckies or whatever except for pot on the way to the gorge and that they have people who probably get high once a year when they go to Dave Matthews band and they have to be like their, their guide to it.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Like, all right, here's how you get high. Here's what you want. Don't take too much. Now, Dave Matthews band, Nina and I worked out a dichotomy between,
Starting point is 01:14:01 uh, different kinds of music. So Dave Matthews is what we call the hibbity. He, uh, right. And then, uh, Creed is here, but who, out a dichotomy between different kinds of music. So Dave Matthews is what we call the hibbity he. Hibbity he. And then Creed is hibbity who. So you have your hibbity he bands and your hibbity who bands. And he's in the hibbity he brackets.
Starting point is 01:14:15 If I have to pick one, I guess I'd go more hibbity he. Me too. I would go to a Phish concert before Dave Matthews concert, I think. I think I would too. Also on that episode, Stupid Seencer flanders says negligee reminds me of nick lachey which reminds me of that balloon-headed freak also ties into ohio and pot voting a bill was voted on in ohio to legalize pot but unfortunately that bill was sponsored by rich assholes who wanted to mine who wanted to monopolize it like 98 degrees his own nick lachey
Starting point is 01:14:46 so even pot smokers voted against it still waiting on a new better bill it might pass next time that freak lives in uh ohio he must sort of live in ohio he must like have a house in ohio it's like you know technically actually i think dave chapelle more more lives in Ohio than Nick Lachey does, I would bet. But yeah, I did not know any of this about the Ohio pot voting stuff. Yeah, I didn't either. And that it didn't get legalized. I'm glad that a bad bill to legalize it in a vote because enough people who grew up smoking weed vote now. And they know they didn't murder anyone.
Starting point is 01:15:33 They know it's meaningless. All of the pot stuff is like even even ancient confused old men like Joe Biden have finally learned. They're like, oh, it's not a gateway drug. We were wrong. I think it's either that or they realized like more profit can be gained by taxing this than by arresting people for using it. They've already stocked up our prison slave population enough with the horrible mandatory minimum sentencing. Now it's time to profit off of the white people who they won't arrest for it. This country. It stinks. Moving on to what a cartoon movie paranorman what a fun episode that was a great movie uh
Starting point is 01:16:10 silky pj says i am really happy that the what a cartoon poll helped bob and henry discover a modern classic that they truly loved and opened up about i was never the biggest paranorman fan because the first half felt a lot like the typical tim burton s movie about ostracizing weird people but in talking simpsons fashion the research really opened my eyes to all the detail put into the movie from the characters to the jokes and i appreciated that on rewatch there was so much foreshadowing and extra details to catch if we have to continue having a billionaire class the least they can do is dump their money into passion art projects like like uh that's true exactly yeah if all the evil money from nike can go to place, if it can at least make this stuff exist,
Starting point is 01:16:46 like, obviously, we'd all love to get rid of the billionaire class in general, but if they must keep existing, I would wish they would put money into this instead of, like, dumb rockets that don't work. Or, like, buying Twitter. Buying Twitter, yeah. Or VR that is basically just, like, worse than the Miiverse is basically just like worse than the me verse like far worse than the me verse uh i it's i i think they're trying to sell to get i'm seeing them slash
Starting point is 01:17:12 prices on i wonder how long until they're gonna mark down everything and just uh the the way google did with when they gave up on stadia oh you mean for the the oculus or meta or whatever yeah i think i even saw john karmack like was talking shit on the meta he left the project that's good that's a you know what if you lose john karmack just just close up shop he was he was the only reason i gave a crap about meta it's like oh they hired john karmack okay this this guy uh knows how to make a video game he's a cool weirdo i want to know where he's going our next set of comments are on the talking futurama episode lila's home world the the big mutant revelation episode uh hampus bystrom says it's hard not to get a little bitter in the entertainment industry i'm a writer
Starting point is 01:17:57 and at least want to be director and i work in sweden so i can only imagine how it is in hollywood and usa every goddamn producer I've ever worked with is a child of the media or cultural aristocracy here. It's insane. It never fails. And I'm not even saying they've been bad producers. It's just that every chair of institutional cultural media, i.e. where the money is,
Starting point is 01:18:19 has the ass of a scion of the insular cultural elite in Sweden in it. It's almost laughable i've worked with four producers now and it never fails just google their names and find out that their father was like the boss of the swedish film institute or something since there's so little money in swedish art and entertainment a small language with little international distribution it's hard not to get bitter and i have a related note here based on this comment the guardian just the amount of musicians, writers, and artists with working class backgrounds has shrunk by half since the 1970s. And you can rest assured that Henry and I come from the dirt. Me more than Henry.
Starting point is 01:18:56 A little more, yes. With your two-parent household. Yes, I did have a two-parent household. But neither of our parents have wiki pages. That's true. That's for darn sure. Yeah, it's funny when you're like, well, where did this actor come from and you google them and it's like well their dad was a director their mom is an opera singer or something like that yeah every every time it's like oh how
Starting point is 01:19:12 did this person get their start in them or they're even with somebody like lena dunham whose parents weren't like actors but they're like new york art people who like oh then that's why you hire her like that's why you get listen to her dumb crap or what look this is not a judgment on all of her work but I'm saying people get opportunities that other people don't get because you don't want to fire the daughter of a guy who has power or the son of a woman who has power any of that stuff it's yeah that Guardian article was was very interesting timing this also came up because me and you were were chatting with uh with drew mackie about um about some actors and actresses i i was mentioning amanda peete and i was like wait who's amanda peete married to
Starting point is 01:19:56 benny off of the benny off and weiss uh combo that uh fucked up game of thrones and i was like well wait what's that bennyff guy do oh he's the son of the former ceo of goldman sachs like yeah uh so isn't it surprising then that the game of thrones ends with the whole thing about how the kings should exist and how the commoners can't deal with it i'm always i'm always sickened when there's like a gorgeous talented actress it's like who's she married to oh just some boring real estate guy. It's like, there can't be any love there. You got to think not. No, I wouldn't think so either.
Starting point is 01:20:31 But yeah, it's just every time. That was just one of eight million reminders of like, oh yeah, every, most people who have one are able to move upwards in entertainment have a lot of help in that regard so don't you know what if you're not reaching that height yet in your career you probably didn't have a famous parent yeah yeah you need to get a time machine fix that as as i said to mike hanford on our first one of like you need to write for the simpsons just first have your dad go to harvard and he's he said i'm working on it i'm helping him apply to harvard he have your dad go to harvard and he's he's that i'm working i'm working on it i'm helping him apply to harvard he's got to go to harvard and also write for the simpsons
Starting point is 01:21:08 30 years ago and then you got a slut mike hamford will finally get that writing and put there's writers for simpsons who didn't yeah but come on guys yeah we're saying uh a pox upon kristin gore hey it sounded as we said in that episode it sounded like she at least chose to not uh participate in hollywood as much anymore yeah up that space she could have been you know show running by now or creating stuff by now but uh she's quiet and rich and happy and good for her as she should be yes moving on matt ls says thank you for another great talky futurama on the topic of hooded freaks well while it could definitely be an Omega Man reference, I think based on precedent, it may be more connected to the 1970 follow-up to Planet of the Apes, Beneath the Planet of the Apes. In the second season episode, I second that emotion when we are introduced to these sewer mutants.
Starting point is 01:21:59 We learn that they worship an unexploded nuclear warhead, but mostly just for the holidays. Definitely an allusion to Beneath the Planet of the Apes. In that entry, we learn about a telepathic race of subterranean humans who are the mutated descendants of the survivors of an earlier nuclear war. They also wear cloaks and hide their faces. I think that, for whatever reason, the 1970s was just a golden age for hooded mutants as a symbol for Cold War anxieties.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Very good point. Yeah, I think it is still a little Omega Man, but yeah, I totally forgot that the first time we talked about the mutants on the podcast, we brought up that like, yeah, this is a Planet of the Apes 2 reference, which is a very forgettable Planet of the Apes, if you ask me.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I prefer the ones of Caesar basically having a war against, also talk about politics, like having a war against uh also talk about politics like having a war against the ruling class and killing them all i i kind of prefer that i mostly was made aware of this in the worshiping of a bomb thing through like the first half of the eighth season of mystery science theater where all of the host segments were basically a planet of the apes parody which is where professor bobo comes from that from. Don't you feel bad for Kevin Murphy that by doing that joke that was supposed to just be for a few episodes,
Starting point is 01:23:09 he is damned for the next three years of the show to have to wear the monkey suit the whole time? That poor guy, yeah, yeah. I totally forgot that Bobo just sticks with them and he's got to put on the damn monkey makeup for every host segment he's in. I mean, for Brain Guy, probably all that white powder
Starting point is 01:23:23 isn't fun to put on your face either, but it's not a giant monkey mask the entire time that episode also taught me about the song 25 25 which oh me too is man still alive yes yes did a woman survive yeah uh so up next we have talking to the hill death of a propane salesman has not gone live as of this recording so we'll get to it next time again Again, we're recording this really early. We hope you feel so good when you listen to it. And I get the next one here. Oh, sure. The What a Cartoon episode this month was all about the
Starting point is 01:23:53 Adventures of Sam and Max Freelance Police. We did two segments from that great series. And Devin Hoffarth says, Fun fact, Bill Farmer voices Detective Date in the dub of the original Yakuza game for the ps2 and he just uses the sam voice it was surreal listening to him while playing that game and wondering where the hell i had heard that voice before i realized it was sam for my hitting the
Starting point is 01:24:14 road days won't spoil too much either but bill farmer does return to the yakuza series at some point and it was a treat hearing him again even if it wasn't that many lines man you know i never play yakuza in the dub form, so I'm missing out on this kind of fun callback treat. It's just, I really do love the Japanese voice, especially Kiryu and Majima. I really love their Japanese voice actors. I mean, how can you not hear like, Kiryu-chan?
Starting point is 01:24:40 Like, it's just so fun that, but I mean, I know on the Yakuza 7 Like a Dragon dub that like our friend Sungwon Cho did very good acting in it. I wanted to listen to it, but I just love the Japanese so much. Well, I'm going to DM him right now and let him know you're too good for the dub. Well, we already talked about how we're not playing the God of War game that he's a part of, too. Oh, no. Oh, no. No, I played Yaksa 7 uh with
Starting point is 01:25:05 the dub uh and it was good very very good his character's great he does he does a great job i wish he was in it more honestly uh and finally our last comment we'll be reading for the year of 2022 isn't it crazy to think that this is over it still feels like 2020 yeah when i schedule things for the new year and i drop down the menu to 2023 and i think that that can't be right it can't be 2023 it's not it's not happening it's not that it feels like it's still like 2013 or something but it does feel like it's still 2020 uh but anyway so our final comment is from joe hodgson about salmon max saying i will also add that i have the newish salmon max Max action figures from Boss Fight Studios,
Starting point is 01:25:47 local to me in Massachusetts. They're pretty fun, though the joints on one is very stiff, to the point where Sam's leg snapped at the knee when I tried to bend them. The company that makes them sent me replacement legs for free, no questions asked, so it wasn't a big deal. They may have done another production run at this point these came out in december of 2020 that fixed that issue swapping their expressions was also harder than it should be but i like sam's big dopey grin so that was good enough they have
Starting point is 01:26:16 some fun stuff like a paper bag hand puppet of max and the rotary phone and can probably be found for cheaper now too i think they were 40 each when they came out so that's good to know there's uh i hope i hope they have fixed those leg problems getting replacement legs is a funny term too my replacement leg showed up today i say i can bend his knee i successfully resisted the urge to buy these and i was on the store page a lot but i have uh i have shut down the buying of any new items before I move. In fact, I'm getting things out of my apartment. I have some toys that were wonderful gifts from my husband that I haven't taken out of the box yet because I was like,
Starting point is 01:26:53 God, we're going to have to move though in a few months. I can't take this extremely great Dragon Quest 8, sorry, Dragon Quest 11 figure out of its thing of Sylvando, which looks awesome, but I'm like, I'm just going to have to pack it away again. Sorry, Dragon Quest XI figure out of its thing of Silvando, which looks awesome. But I'm like, I'm just going to have to pack it away again. But you'll appreciate. I'll point at Silvando when, Bob, you come over to my new place in the future and I finally unpacked all those toys.
Starting point is 01:27:16 We see the Silvando room. Yeah. He's, you know, I wish I could have him in more places. But at least on my PlayStation account, Silvando is my avatar on playstation yeah but but yes thank you uh joe for letting us know that uh how good or not those sam max action figures were their quality sculpts i can tell you that this is reminding me i pre-ordered that crusty figure a long time ago when the when the hell does that show up i don't know i you know quality takes time i'm not saying hurry it up, pointing at my watch. Hurry it up, Super 7.
Starting point is 01:27:47 But come on, guys. But yes, this is the final episode of Talk to the Audience for 2022. We want to thank everyone out there for supporting us and letting us have a week off after this because we all need to relax. And we have several thousand hours of content waiting for you. You've probably forgotten about some of it. Yeah, I hope you guys enjoy the free version of the what a cartoon movie you'll be getting this week uh as well as the uh king of the hill two that you'll be getting and also you know if you haven't uh signed up at the ten dollar
Starting point is 01:28:15 level for it yet if you're looking for a good holiday listening and it leads into new year's our tokyo godfather's podcast is really really good i i we're really proud of that one and it's great for the season too yeah and the film is has there been more available or watchable because there's a very good dub yes yeah please please check out the movie and in our podcast on it too it's a perfect way to close out the year and also don't forget new t-shirt on t public from nina matsumoto it is great we love it and you should you should get it as uh well i guess a late christmas gift yourself a new year's gift perhaps yeah and also follow the instagram account talk simpsons pod and also the twitter
Starting point is 01:28:56 account if you haven't yet we appreciate any follows there uh who knows what's happening with twitter it's falling apart as we are recording this right now we can't it's now illegal to post links to websites. So I guess you'll have to go to Instagram on your own. Yeah, we can't. We can't lead you there anymore. We're sorry. Yes, but thanks for listening, folks. We'll see you again in 2023 for another new episode
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