Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - January 2022

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

We made it through the first month of 2022 together, and we've got lots to talk about. There's a good deal of Simpsons news (not to mention King of the Hill), as well as some new information on upcoming podcasts and stuff going on in our lives. Then we wrap things up with comments not just on Simpsons eps, but also on Futurama as now our monthly Patreon podcasts get included in the discussion! Listen now before your squeaky shoes upset the whole church! Support this podcast and get over 100 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the new official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

I heartily endorse this event or product. awards bob mackie who is here with me today hey it's henry gilbert and i'm still waiting on my bart bart crossover bart bart as in the republic that's right that's right i just read that news item but yes welcome to talk to the audience in case you don't remember or are new to the network this is where we talk about simpsons news and our news and we answer your questions and comments from this recent round of episodes and we're in January, and now things are back to being very boring. The holidays are over. It's time for depression. A new wave of COVID is rolling in. And you know what?

Podcasts are still there for you. Still here. We're not going away. There's not a new strain of podcasts. I mean, we've had podcast fever this month in that we've produced so many podcasts, and not just for ourselves, too. But it's also, you know, a month of disappointments, too, for us personally, that we didn't get to do a live show we were really looking forward to. That definitely didn't happen.

You know, in the grand scheme of things that Omicron has cost us so far, it's not, you know, it's not much to complain about comparatively. There's a lot of bad stuff. Yeah, I'm still alive yeah you know we're back to a 9-11 every day of deaths it's time to roll up our sleeves and get back to work yep yeah but uh yeah i hope hope that put you in a good mood everybody because there's one million new cases today of this as of this recording holy crap so and if you're listening as a patreon we're recording this the day you're hearing this yes ripped from the headlines so let's move on to things that aren't depressing us right now uh so yes uh the simpsons is picking up big ratings for disney plus it's the most watched show on disney plus in 2021 i want to say it's probably because that's the most amount

of content in one uh that one show possesses on that network sure uh but also that does mean a lot so fuck off book of boba fett screw off mandalorian uh there's some other things in there turner and hooch take a hike take a take a take a walkies off a short pier you know with all the other shows they have on there because they don't have a ton of tv shows but of the tv shows they have on there it's mostly like 65 episodes of a disney afternoon thing you know like simpsons is really the only long-running sitcom they have on there because the rest are uh at least in the united states deemed too hot and put onto hulu like you know futurama family guy king of the hill american dad so simpsons is the only one so yeah maybe Simpsons ends up being the most watched

because uh compared to say Darkwing Duck that has 65 episodes or I think actually like 79 whatever the Simpsons has almost 100 times that many episodes yeah so could could be that but still I mean when I see numbers like that that you know i believe this is a third party metric this isn't disney saying the most streamed show on our chat on our service is the simpsons uh but when i see that information it's why i think like uh disney even less likely to let simpsons have a break go to like take a sabbatical no that's not it's not stopping no it will outlive us and so will disney plus oh yes uh but yeah so congrats to the simpsons uh in their extensive back catalog of which i hope writers are being paid handsome uh royalties but i guess not i probably not i would bet not i mean

they did have the the part of the digital streaming money was why they strike they did the strike in 2008 but i don't know if anything came of that but at the very least we're gonna have more plusiversaries to come i'm sure with that kind of success we'll talk about that later i swear i'm in i'm in an okay mood today so in more simpsons related news uh the wga awards the writers guild awards uh two episodes were nominated and you know what these were not my favorite ones of the season so far i wish uh quiet flanders a two-parter had been nominated it's way more ambitious but the ones that were nominated were the star of the backstage which was the season premiere and a portrait of a lackey on fire which will come up in a future news item here yeah yeah the the the first one

i mean it was a good gimmick episode that was the one that made marge our age and that she graduated high school and then they turned marge into like she was the theater nerd who wasn't invited to the parties with all the cool kids which you know i i think it fits enough for marge but again to have that it was a real you know you're old uh moment of the show saying uh marge was a senior in high school in the year 2000 like that just like me yep yeah but but not henry he's a baby i i am a class of 2001 yep yeah no bad year i think um i think i would have nominated the uh you know i really did love not just uh serious flanders but also i denominated the the hallmark christmas episode they did the the one of the Hallmark Christmas movie being filmed in Springfield.

There was a parody of Hallmark Christmas movies. You know what? I saw that with Nina. I didn't care for it, but I'm not familiar with that trash. Ah, well, see, I know it well. Our pals at Citations Needed did a couple of podcasts on the subject. It was really interesting. I did hear those.

I just said I've never watched them because I don't visit my family. See, if you visited your your parents my mom has those on uh quite a lot during the holiday season shockingly my parents are cord cutters now they just do streaming stuff that's it wow wow man that's uh meanwhile my mom and stepdad signed up for hulu live because they're like we want to keep the cord but the cord cut them like they can't get they can't get local uh news on their satellite thing and so they had to sign up for hulu live to get a little uh just go on facebook it's all true whatever you read on there i tell them of like local news every time i watch local news with them i was like this is why every old person is afraid of everything like it's awful they know

what they're doing but yeah congrats to uh the writers of those episodes and we're going to talk about two of them right now because uh two of the noms rob lezebnik and johnny lezebnik the father son duo got a new yorker profile for their episode portrait of a lackey on fire and of course uh that is the episode that's about uh smithers in a relationship, not just as a gay joke. And it's an interesting profile. You see how Johnny was like Rob's gay consultant. Like, do gay people do this? Calling his son in college.

And then he decided like, oh, my son's a writer. By the way, his parents are both writers. A TV writer and a novelist. My parents shoveled coal. I know. The Johnny Lozemny guy, he seems like he's an interesting guy in that profile. I wish him the best. And people on Twitter who I respect as comedy writers follow him, too, and I think he's friends with them.

So I just want to challenge The Simpsons to hire a gay writer who's not related to a writer from The Simpsons. That's all. Maybe give that a shot The Simpsons. That's all. Maybe give that a shot, Simpsons. That's all. That's all I'm asking. That's your 2022 challenge. Yeah, but it's a fine New Yorker profile. I mean, I'm sure it's a real treat for The Simpsons to get a New Yorker profile.

That's about as high profile as it gets. I say profile to famous podcasters that talk about The Simpsons. I agree. We have interesting lives. Oh my gosh, do we ever. But yeah, that's on the New Yorker website if you want to check it out. So moving on to more Simpsons news, there are new toys coming out by the Super 7 Company. We've got things like Bartman, Duffman, Krusty, and Hank Scorpio to follow up their last line of figures.

And like the other ones they come with really cool accessories like Duff Man comes with Suds McDuff the alter ego of Santa's Little Hope from like season 14 yeah it's super cool and Scorpio comes with his flamethrower too and multiple different heads for him so the one I would pre-order probably would be man oh and mr teeny comes with crusty that's great and the crusty screaming head and his smoking head are great but the only must pre-order for me is bart man because you know i love the bart man comics as a kid listeners will hear me talk about how much i love that bart man the only simpsons episode to feature bart man soon uh and it comes with Radioactive Man number one.

That's great. But I have to complain that it is orange shirt Bart with the Bartman head, which is technically correct for the show. Yeah. But in Bartman merch and comics, it is 99% of the times a light blue t-shirt. We know that Bartman is a merchandising character. He's not a character on the show. Yes. Yeah.

He only dressed up as bartman for that but i mean super seven they're making a great run of toys i'm pretty sure it was so long ago i can i can barely remember i'm pretty sure i pre-ordered the poochie one and i haven't got it in the mail yet but then again i'm still waiting on my neon genesis evangelion super duper fancy edition that i think is supposed to ship at the end of this month even though the regular editions came out like four months ago but i heard there's like some pandemic or something that's slowing stuff down that's just a rumor yeah i've read some things on facebook too i'd say it actually didn't happen uh so we reported last month on mike judge's new show, Praise Petey, about a small town cult. Well, it turns out this is part of a new animation enterprise between him and Greg Daniels.

They're starting their new animation company. Sorry, the article's like loading on my screen right now. Is it called Bandera? Yes, Bandera is the name of it. Yes. Yeah. And they're announcing a ton of new shows. And one of them they're really hinting at.

They're like, yeah, there's new King of the Hill coming. We can't say can't say anything yet but yes of course we're going to be making more of this so it's probably like 2023 2024 off in the distance but they said in this article on the hollywood reporter that they really wanted to start doing more together after doing a lot of uh live readings at things like sketch fest which we went to so we are partially responsible for this if we hadn't laughed as hard as we did at that show they wouldn't have had the confidence to do it but i swear listeners go back and hear me and bob talk about that in like five-year-old podcasts uh we we said you could feel it in the air that like they all seemed to the entire cast and janniels and judge were there and they all seem to have come from a

very exciting wine filled dinner right beforehand and we it was just in the air of like they are enjoying each other's company so much they gotta be ready to do more of it 100 and and yeah i it was exciting news to read about apparently it came together as well because a youtube you know i guess still has an original content arm, but they... I think it just was dismantled. They dismantled all their scripted content. Well, one of the bosses of that after he left, he's like, you know what? I'll just work with Judge and Daniels and run this thing and just get it started. Because also too, that guy and Judge and Daniels correctly identified that post pandemic or during pandemic every streamer

realized they want tons more animation and so judge and daniels are like well we can not only give you more king of the hill but also produce other people's first cartoons with our experience like another of the series they're working on uh stars two people who host a podcast together nicole byron laura lapkus which again, I'm like, Judge and Daniels, you know, we're unlike those two people. We're not improv performers, but I'm sure it's easy. Me and Bob should be the leads.

We're not spreading ourselves across all these projects. That's true, yeah. We'll be hyper-focused on your TV show if you hire us. I'm very excited for this. I'm really excited for the new Beavis and Butthead when that comes back. I mean, let's it back like every 10 or 20 years until mike judge is in the ground let the beavis and butthead need to comment on a culture every 10 years at least yeah no and i i i hope uh as we had said to him in our interview i hope wes archer is brought back

as well like they gotta have him in charge of it too if he if he's free for it i guess he's still there's a lot of ricky morty episodes to produce and he works on that so i too if he if he's free for it i guess he's still there's a lot of ricky morty episodes to produce and he works on that so i don't know if he's free after yeah hey they make 10 every like 20 months right yeah you know when they made that order of 70 at once i figured the gears wouldn't stop moving on it at that point but i basically i basically stopped watching that show i lost interest but b there was like an 18 month gap between seasons at some point there was and i was like, Rick and who? I don't know these people.

The last set of episodes were really good. They were really good. I mean, there fortunately wasn't any Elon Musk in this season, unlike the season before that one. Hey, no pickle, no sale. That's what I say. So in Simpsons-related news, Matt Groatings disenchantment is coming back for the fourth set of episodes on february 9th so i think this is the final order because they were greenlit for two 20 episode seasons which are divided into parts because streaming is weird but yeah i i

believe this will be the finale and there's been no news about it being renewed so it sounds like this will be there will be an end and we'll probably comment on it next month but yeah i'll be watching this yeah i'll be watching it too i watched the other 30 i i hope after the last season the biggest note i have is i hope that the king actually has lines again and does stuff because he really zog is like the funniest guy in the show to me and i missed him that was kind of a mistake in their third set of episodes is to make him basically shut down his quip powers yeah yeah that he just became a guy went well and also to eric andre seemed to have a lot less time for the series yeah they killed off one of his characters uh lucy was not around like well is lucy going to be in this at all i guess we'll see in like a week or so images that lucy's in heaven now

so apparently right that, that's how the third season ended. Yeah, see, I mean, I need to watch a previously on for it ahead of this on the ninth too. But I mean, you know, it's been,

Disenchantment hasn't been as great as I would like, would have liked it to be. But I've had a good time watching it when I do watch it. But I just, it's just not as memorable to me as Futurama or Simpsons.

It's a really good looking show. We talked about it a lot, but I just, it's just not as memorable to me as a drama or Simpson. It's a really good looking show. Uh, we talked about it a lot, but I feel like, uh, I wish the streaming model wasn't mandatory in terms of storytelling. I wish they could do their own thing. And I think it doesn't work that well for a show like this. No, I do think the, the linearity was too much for it. Like it needed to be more episodic, but I don't think that's how Netflix works. Netflix does. They want you to have a cliffhanger every episode. And that I think did hurt disenchantment's ability to be as funny as it could be. And I will say that a part of getting old, the depressing part of getting old is that

you hear the same conversations over and over and you're like, no, we talked about this. Where were you? And this happened again because tom hanks did a video for uh biden celebrating the you know one year anniversary so many great things have happened i mean unemployment is way down don't look into why yeah but it just unemployment just plummeted it's great uh like i hear the price of ice cream is down one percent we're living in a golden age and uh but so of course people are using the simpsons movie joke where tom hanks is using his credibility because america has none uh the thing is we did this we did this in 2021

for the inauguration uh the joke has been made and how dare you make it again literally a year to the day like when it happened i had the i think i've said this before when these viral things happen the simpsons predicted thing happens again and again and this is what I would have complained about at our live show this month that it happened. But it's like, no, you can't say again when Tom Hanks speaks for the White House that, oh, the Simpsons predicted it again. It's like, no, we already said they predicted it. When he did the inauguration video on January 21st, 2021, we already said they predicted it. We can't do that.

I guess, too, another reason I was mad at seeing The Simpsons predicted the thing about this repeat of it was that, like, Ted Cruz talked about it. And any times Ted Cruz tries to get viral with The Simpsons thing, I want to vomit. I hate it so much. But, yeah, that already happened. I'm sure it'll happen again you know tom hanks first celebrity covet survivor yeah he kind of start he started the ball rolling america i i will never forget and we're getting close to two years now from it but that i but it was march 16th where it was like nba canceled tom hanks has covet and then sarah palin saying baby got back on

the mass singer oh that ushered in a new era. The baby, the singing of baby got back. That was all in the same night. That was the last day of America. I choose to see it as that. That was a dark day. Hey,

it was a onward also signaled the end of end times. That too. Yeah. Which they still owe us money for putting me and you in that movie. We should have played those guys. We'd be way cheaper than Chris Pratt and Tom Holland. Well chris pratt has got to play everybody as we're as we're learning that's true but uh yeah one thing that did happen in the news is that uh this is a simpsons predicted dead moment even bill oakley commented on it it's like i don't have the news item in

front of me but uh a truck full of lab monkeys crashed and they all escaped and one woman got very sick by interacting with one of the monkeys so from homer uh king size homer that actually happened in real life the thing homer hears on the radio man i missed that okay and you know what homer predicted the joys of being a work from home person and seeing that news and saying like i'm glad that didn't happen to me exactly so enjoy your work crazies we were not infected by lab monkeys yeah uh so here in the bay area we've got a train system it's called bart it's the bay area rapid transit system uh back in december of 1989 uh they were offered a deal by the simpsons saying do you want to cross promote our new show the simpsons there's this crazy character named bart

and it turns out the man in charge was like this this show about a troublemaker that does not represent the bart brand this thing will never last and the guy they followed up with this guy like in 2016 and he was like uh so it goes yep so it was a real looks like it's suicide again for me comment from this guy i wonder if that's where it started their distaste for the monorails you know if they're all you got the bart turned us down fuck public transit yeah oh and so i always wanted often on this podcast when me and you reference make a local reference about like i took the bart or i did the bart here and people go like what the fuck are you talking about i don't live in your town like we i i just think i'd always thought like why didn't they ever do a thing with

bart here yeah actually like i remember reading about this like, a social studies class in sixth grade. Oh, it's like, oh, the train in San Francisco is called Bart. I'm like, that's so cool as, like, a 12-year-old. And then, you know, I'd be riding it here until 20 years later or so. Now, no way would they get it for free from the Disney company to do Bart heads with

the Simpsons. No, no. In fact, a representative of Bart over Twitter said, if we can do it over now we did handle it differently so that'd be cool yeah like brand our trains like they do in japan they put like the latest anime on the train like you can ride in the ava unit uh colored train if you want to you know i do remember at some point in the last decade uh nintendo did an ad thing with i guess it would have been the year of luigi so 2013 uh with the l train in chicago where they made one of their trains a luigi train like luigi

rides the l like that was a that's a cute thing now the year of luigi was like a decade ago yes oh god we're in the we're in the decade of waluigi now uh so yeah that is some news about uh the bart and uh in other news he never wrote for the simpsons but there was a notable death in terms of tv history and that's john bowman i think best known for uh co-creating the sitcom martin the martin lawrence sitcom but he was also on it's gary shandling show and saturday night live and the fresh prince of bel-air and every simpsons writer knew him from harvard from being like a harvard bro i uh i believe he went to school in the same class of harvard uh with mike reese aljean jeff martin and conan o'brien and uh

denise reese mike reese's wife on her youtube channel to the public she released some of the eulogies from john bowman's memorial service uh in the last month and they're really touching if you care a lot about these people like in in their history and and you get to hear like how john bowman you know touched the lives of like reese gene and martin in hot in college it's it has the kind of spirit of you know your dad's friends talking about college memories and i i don't know it feels kind of sweet like reese reese gives like a basically a roast of john bowman which is very funny uh he does a joke about saying that like john bowman was always in better shape than all us fat tv writers so let that teach you it doesn't matter wow then gene had a more like touching kind of

speech but he still put in some jokes and jeff martin i think did the lead eulogy had a lot of funny jokes and memories but also a very touching statement on them and the funniest thing in reese's though was he'll make some statement and like point at somebody like you remember and then his wife who i'm assuming is the filming it she then turns to he's pointing to and it's conan o'brien just laughing it up he's the very tall man in the back uh but uh but yeah bowman apparently touched a lot of lives and uh wrote for so many shows he uh and yeah i'd love to know what saturday night live sketches he wrote because he was from the our kid generation of watching snl so he probably wrote

some some sketches we remember and you can watch that uh eulogy on youtube right a series of eulogies uh yeah you can write uh at this point on the denise reese one and mike reese tweeted him out if you want to check his twitter but al gene did too but uh the mike reese al gene and jeff martin ones are all available right now and And they're really, they're touching. Yeah. Okay. So yes, RIP John Bowman. And we have another news item for an upcoming guest on the show,

in a previous case as well, in that our friend Luke Savage of the podcast Michael and Us, he does with our other podcast pal, Will Sloan. He wrote a great Jacobin piece about plusversary and the state of mass culture. And it is called entertainment monopolies are zombifying mass culture and it's a great read and i totally agree with him because i'm also an old man although he's like 10 years younger than me he is and uh this is really talking about what i call uh the game master anthony's birthdayification of entertainment which is uh basically if you

haven't seen the famous message board post it's a guy wishing himself a happy birthday, but he's writing a fiction like, all of my favorite characters from video games and TV and movies run into the room and they wish me a happy birthday. Every movie is like that now. Every TV show is like that now. And it's cool if you enjoy them. But I've said this before in the last podcast.

This is old man rant corner. I just want a movie to be able to exist by itself. Tell your own story without saying but look there's another one coming or remember these other movies we made all your friends are here it's your birthday neo's here other there's there's three spider-man they're dancing around for you there's a pinata it's full of your favorite candy because it's game master anthony's birthday every day in america uh well look we all need comfort bob it's a tough times here we mean and uh i mean that's why biden's president to make us all like comfortable as the end comes you know but

no i yeah he's just there to say uh sorry sorry mac oh geez i wish you know a side note i'm sorry i'm sad he apologized that steve duchy guy just call him a son of a bitch who cares man yeah but anyway that no our pal luke savage wrote a great piece on that and what you're talking about too apologize that steve duchy guy just call him a son of a bitch who cares man yeah but anyway the no our pal luke savage wrote a great piece on that and what you're talking about too uh it also reminds me of a thing i heard on our our friends that we hate movies uh and i think i heard this from others but a it will only get worse because the spider-man no way home which you know what it's been six weeks. Here's some spoilers. Every Spider-Man's in it.

You knew that already. But thanks to that now being the biggest movie of all time, literally dozens of movies now will come out after that and are like, oh, is this what you wanted? Well, we're going to make a Batman movie. Every Batman. We'll get him back, and you'll be happy again. If we dug up Adam West. So it's only going to worse i know you know thanks to thanks to that spider-man movie making

good or like same with like i mean we all also know about the the the ghost of harold ramus put into ghostbusters like yeah yeah i get by the way i turned 40 this year so this is why i'm like this now sure yes it is why we please please yell at me but but yeah i think uh it will only get worse like it will only be more things about all the all of your friends together not less of it uh video games are still pure they're still they're still a pure form of entertainment we had this like with kingdom hearts we did this like 20 years ago that's true yeah movies are just catching up to where kingdom hearts was and in 2002 and like smash brothers as well oh yep yeah exactly smash the original smash brothers i believe just turned

23 i think it did oof yeah 99 yikes uh so yeah uh pardon pardon my little rant there it's okay if you enjoyed some of those movies by the way i just listened to the we hate movies episode on the eternals that came out today and uh dear god uh over the past couple of weeks, I don't know why, but everyone I know on Twitter is watching that movie, or should I say forcing themselves through the movie. People are tweeting like, God, I made it one hour in, just two more viewings and I'm done. You don't have to watch it.

If the movie stinks, just don't go. Just don't go. We talked about that five years ago on Talking Critic. You don't have to. Watch the leaked teaser and then move on. You cannot watch it. go just don't go we talked about that five years ago on talking critic you don't have to watch the leaks us teaser and then move on you cannot watch it that movie sounds just like the most tedious thing i've ever heard it should have been eight episodes of a tv show on disney plus uh yeah that would have been a better place for i mean yeah i think especially now that it's on disney plus

just skip to that uh post credits thing no it's it felt like i didn't hate it in the movie theater but every moment just passed by me and i was like well okay and i especially like it just felt like nothing that movie and even you would think you know they put something in there for me and my particular you know identity group which is there was a you know husky gay guy in the movie who kisses his husband which you would not see in any marvel movie before that i'm hearing that is not in all versions of the movie they're marketing i mean yes yeah i've heard that too but but it was you know a thing made for me and and i really like the actor who plays him i just didn't care like i just couldn't care that movie i mean that movie like is on ambient or something it just

doesn't feel like a film it is uh is morbius uh part of this whole thing too oh you better believe it bob it's yeah i how about less bias that's what i said well unfortunately that movie's never coming out because it just keeps being delayed delayed delayed but yeah like michael keaton's in that uh and of course after no way home was a huge success there were rumors that the doctor strange movie which already was called multiverse of madness that was going to bring in you know seemingly was going to bring in a lot of crossover characters already that's sam raimi movie right it's a sam raimi that's the only reason i care the the rumor is that after no way home came out they uh very quickly did some reshoots to get even more characters you've seen in other movies into that movie so yep hey i'm still good i also it's a sam

ramey one so i you know i like to support his work we'll talk more about sam ramey later there are things that i actually like by the way oh yes uh so our last bit of news is r.i.p to betty white who passed away on december uh 31st at the age of 99. And I will say, if you voted in that Facebook poll to make her host SNL, this is your fault. She would have lived 17 more days if you didn't vote for her to just shuffle onto that stage at age 88 and suffer through bad sketch comedy. That shaved two weeks off her life, folks. It's like how hot dogs decrease your life. Yes.

If you remember Facebook when people actually used it who were our age, in 2010, every other post on Facebook was, let's make Betty White do this. Let's make her do this. Let's put her on community. Let's have her be on this. And even back then, I was like, let the woman rest. But because of you, of course, I'm being facetious. But yes, she lived an extravagant life. I just watched this video by the YouTuber Jose.

He made a Golden Girls retrospective. It's making me want to rewatch all the Golden Girls. The show I watched as a kid because I don't know why. I guess I just was like, oh, I like my grandma and these old women seem fun. Every time I revisit an episode of it, I'm like, wow, this show is so ahead of its time. And it really was unappreciated because it was the old lady show in our youth. And also, our pals at Gayest Episode Ever did a great tribute episode of her doing the AIDS episode they did with her. They've done like eight Golden Girls episodes, so they really have covered the catalog.

If you want to listen to more podcasts about Golden Girls. And yes, Betty White was on Missionary Impossible impossible and we're going to cover a season 16 episode far in our future called homerazzi she's in that one as well so yeah she uh you know i saw al jean actually or i think it was gina reese they joked about like what funny timing that the you know people magazine was like we're going to celebrate her turning 100 and they planned it a month in advance and that's when uh betty white who lived this long she's like nope i'll be gone two weeks before it so i never was 100 and it it's an out-of-date magazine but yeah i mean we we should all hope to live a life that betty white lived like it's not like this our gayest episode

ever pals mentioned this but like it saying tragedy is not like the right thing like she we we should all hope to live a life like she won yeah yeah and she that she didn't make it to 100 is sad because you know it's just fun to say like wow and she lived to 100 same i had a similar thing you know a few a couple years ago in june foray passed away it's like oh wouldn't it be great if she made it to 100 but yeah that snl i remember watching it like this is just to bring her on to be like hugged like it's just like oh thank you betty white we all love you thank you betty like it she wasn't so much in sketches who would have thought she stuck around another decade and and you know to james l Brooks, she is a very important figure.

Like, he gave her, through the Mary Tyler Moore Show, he helped reinvent her as a brand new sitcom star. That was something on the gayest episode ever they really put into focus, that she had sitcoms in the 50s and then spent, like, 20 years being professionally, I'm Betty White, I'm on game shows. And that was her job mainly and then on james l brooks's mary tyler moore show he uh on that show they're like wouldn't it be funny if betty white played against type and we have a betty white type character who's so friendly on tv and the second the camera goes off sue ann divins is like okay who the hell messed up my show like yeah so funny that's something i didn't know about her. I mean, she was always a performer, but her career was reinvented in her 50s. Yes.

When she was in her 50s. Man, what are our 50s going to be like when we reinvent our careers? We're going to be looking for clean water in our 50s. I mean, you will. Yes, yeah. I'll be living in Canada. Well, I'll be joining the war against Canada to get your water. It'll be podcaster against podcaster.

Let's move on to news about us. So this is when things get happier, except for this first news item. Yeah, actually, it's not. Let me contradict myself here. So our SketchFest live show did not happen. We apologize. But COVID, I didn't start it. Not my fault.

But we're sorry if you bought tickets. Hopefully that all got sorted out. But it's been postponed to january of next year yep and uh yeah hopefully uh we won't miss a four wait a third sketch fest year yeah because we missed 2021 and 2022 yeah so hopefully by january 25th 2023 and it is planned to be in the same venue i i mean check the website uh for yourself for this information i believe i saw that your ticket is still honored. If you got the ticket, it'll still be good until then. If you can't make it to the event, who knows where you'll be in a year.

I mean, who can predict that? I mean, it wasn't a huge loss for us because we hadn't even started planning it, really. We had a guest on board and everything. But I feel bad for the planners who have to now reorganize all of these events over the course of weeks yeah that were going to happen over the course of weeks and i mean i knew uh sketch fest didn't have much choice because too i think they had i would expect this is not from insider knowledge but i would expect that with so many famous people who fly in for the show after the big spike uh after thanksgiving it seemed very likely none of the famous people would want to risk it or also look like they are needlessly traveling

and having mass group events in a covet spike you know it's just unlikely to have happened at that point yeah like the spike literally started the day i left uh america in mid-december and as the weeks were passing while i was in canada i was thinking is this this is not going to happen right i was just waiting for that the cancellation to come down which again is really too bad because our guest matt chrisman was really looking forward to it too i i hope that we can do a live show with him sometime in the future he was he was really looking forward to it as were we but yes again apologies that it didn't happen but we you know i think you'll hear matt chrisman sooner than later on our podcast

all the same i believe that's true uh so let's talk about the what a cartoon schedule so yes we're on our 2022 schedule now so that means if you're on patreon you get a new what a cartoon on the first week first monday of the month you get a talky future i'm on the second monday of the month and you get a talking of the hill on on the second Monday of the month and you get a Talk King of the Hill on the last Friday of the month. And of course, the last Monday of the month is the preview for What a Cartoon Movie

and you get the whole thing if you're on the $10 level. But let's talk about what's going on in detail. So the first Monday of February we'll have an episode about The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, the very silly, the sillier Deke version of Sonic.

And our guest on that one is going to be Ian Jones-y creator of OK KO Let's Be Heroes and animation legend yes yeah he's he was our great guest when we covered the Sonic Saturday morning Deke cartoon that premiered at the same time and when we did that one in 2020 we're like we got to do uh when we do the other side of this equation we gotta have ian back for it and what perfect timing uh that made us do it now because february is also when discotech is putting out their uh very good uh special edition like with a ton of extras blu-ray release of every episode of the adventures of sonic the hedgehog so it's time for that we even have a couple of uh teases of cool secrets that they reveal on the commentaries for that and so uh so yes i just

also want to say you know the discotheque blu-ray looks pretty good yes but the episode zubatnik is also it's just on youtube if you just want to check that out it's it's very insane i walked away uh brief spoilers i walked away liking this a lot more than the serious sonic cartoon me too i i am completely reversed from my childhood self at this point for sure yeah so if you're on the five dollar and up level uh you will get talking futurama in the second week that episode is time keeps on slipping one of the one of the top like five futurama episodes hell yeah man uh those those globetrotters the funniest characters they they are great i'm glad they come back and the last friday of uh january or sorry february uh talking the hill

comes back for i remember mono and if you're on the patreon talking the hill is coming at the end of the week so this friday if you're listening to this on the patreon that's when we'll be listening to or you'll be hearing rather the episode about snow job yes which is a great episode time for the winter time and also to tie i hope texas doesn't have a blizzard this year like it had last year but i guess it would be opportune timing for our podcast yes that's money in the bank but but yeah i really loved those two episodes i both loved talking about yeah so our what a cartoon movie for february is going to be south park bigger longer and uncut because you voted for it and of course if you're on the five dollar level or on the free level

listening this on the free feed you'll get to hear the preview of that but if you want to hear the whole thing you'll have to sign up at the ten dollar level and of course you'll get to hear that and the rest of the what a cartoon movie catalog now for three years of podcasts it'll be the podcast will be bigger and longer and uncut if you're at the ten dollar level that's true you know i already was starting up my research on that which is also involved listening to the les mis soundtrack because uh the film takes a lot from from les mis uh trey parker really i found an interview with the co-writer of the songs on the movie but he who's like oh no trey parker wrote most of this i just helped him make it more orchestral but uh he's like, oh no, Trey Parker wrote most of this. I just helped him make it more orchestral. But he's like, Trey Parker,

the gay guy who's interviewed, he's like, Trey Parker is the biggest queen for Les Mis in the world. And I was like, oh, that's great. That's great. That was a surprising movie and I can't wait to talk about it. I don't think I've watched it in like 15 or more years,

maybe like 17 years. In full? Yeah, I don't think I've watched it that long either. Yeah. And our What a Cartoon Movie poll for March is going to beney films we're jumping all the way back in time to some of their first movies at first i was thinking let's do like disney films of the 40s but one of them is fantasia one of them is the reluctant dragon another one is one of those uh those like melody time or some shit yeah one of those package deals when they're they're running into a lot of trouble

so we're going to start at the beginning in our poll you can vote for snow white and the seven dwarves uh you can vote for dumbo bambi and pinocchio and i have seen one of these movies oh wow i've i've seen all of these uh i'm and i'd be happy to do any of them i think uh if you want to hear me cry make us vote for dumbo i suppose because that baby mind song is like uh destroys you I I mean Bambi's mom dying that's sad and all but I I feel like more so a mother hugging her child through a cage like that's that's more depressing I don't know how I feel if that wins but hey I'm not I don't want to put my thumb on the scale here uh so this month we did a lot of extra cool podcasts we're on podcast the ride i

think this week uh as of this recording and you're hearing on patreon yeah yeah and uh we're talking about the simpsons right of course with our pals on podcast the ride we've been needling them for years and finally it worked it worked it worked and there's some we've got some really cool stuff uh related to it too that we can't wait to show you right until the the podcast goes up we had we talked for two hours we could have easily gone another two hours. I think it was a little over two hours. Yeah, I think you're right. And Henry, you were on the podcast Soundtracker talking about the Mallrats soundtrack.

That's the first podcast I listened to when I got back to the States, and I liked it. And I'm glad you both think Mallrats is bad. The movie does not hold up. I had a professionally framed Mallrats poster in my bedroom for like five years i was the biggest mallrats fan i watched it again in 2009 i thought this sucks yes this movie's awful uh jeremy london uh should never act again jason lee he's fine yeah jason lee the reason he's in all of those movies after is because he can make even the worst kevin smith dialogue which is like a circuitous uh bunch of

words no person would say he can make it at least sound cool with his charisma no one else in that movie can and the only other great part about it is michael rooker because he is insane like that's why he's great but yeah the rest of the movie uh but it was fun talking about it through the lens of the soundtrack as well. I bought that soundtrack for like $18 in 1996 or 7. That's how expensive music used to be. When I pulled out the soundtrack, what hit me was like, you can't have this many clips from the movie in this. This is awful.

And some of them aren't funny. I'll share one story. The Mallrats DVD was the first DVD I bought before I had a DVD player it was one of the early dvds that had a ton of special features there's a commentary with video and of course what i wanted to see the most on that dvd that is had been talked about on the vsq website for years was like we we shot all this extra footage this extra subplot that didn't make it in finally it's available on dvd and it was one of those like homer in hell's like so you like mall rats footage eh have 20 minutes of jeremy london and it's like oh this subplot about jeremy london as like a like a revolutionary war reenactor or something yeah it's the governor's ball right rightfully they they should have burned that footage but just like i did not sign up for this

you're i was ready i remember that experience too Cause I was ready to believe like, man, the suits were wrong about this. They cut all this probably brilliant stuff. And then when I watched, I was like, they slashed this very correctly. Like they needed to also like get to the mall fast and cut down on also like Claire Filani is a much better actress than Jeremy Leonard London, but she's not trying very hard either. No, no. That accent is a creeping out every now and then too. Uh, but yeah's not trying very hard either. No, no, that accent is creeping out

every now and then too. But yeah, it was also fun to do it. Remember just like what an easy lay I was as a comic book nerd because everything now is made for me. But back then having Jay act out a berserker rage of Wolverine with his adamantium claws,

I was like, oh, finally a movie speaks to me I'm looking into a cinematic mirror I'm seeing myself now I the Soundtracker podcast was a was a whole lot of fun folks there's other great episodes with uh with other cool people on it too but that was a lot of fun and I but I really can't wait for people to hear our our podcast ride on the Simpsons ride finally look forward to it. So now it's time to talk about what we've been playing and watching unrelated to podcasts because we're not always doing podcast homework. And for me, it's not a lot because after we recorded last talk to the audience, I was

in Canada for about a week and a half. And then I came back to America and we immediately started going on podcasts after I got my negative COVID test back. So my fun extracurricular activities aren't very in-depth here. So I'm still playing Breath of the Wild. I'm planning on finishing it before Elden Ring comes out at the end of February.

And I'm 70 hours in and I should be finishing it by like hour 100. So this time I will actually finish that game. Good times. Yes. Are you going to touch any of the DLC? I never touched the DLC. I actually did

most of it already oh all right because it's a fully integrated probably better integrated than in dlc isn't a lot of souls games yes uh yeah they just put it all they populate the world with all the dlc stuff from the beginning so it's nice that it's there also i've been playing a lot of monster hunter rise because yeah it came out on switch in march of 2021 and the PC port just came out in January and you know what that Switch game very very pretty for a Switch game ran at 30 frames per second but I need that 60 I need that 60 in my life so this is the one I'm sinking a lot of time into I'm already like 10 hours in and it is I mean it's such a it's a really really good port of that excellent game the best Monster Hunter to date I think it's the best one wow maybe maybe i'll give it a shot on the pc now i i missed it on the switch but uh you know world was the only monster

hunter game i truly gave my heart to but uh i should give i should give rise a try that's the it's the samurai one right uh kind of it's more like the you're in a japanese themed area that's what i thought okay right right and i also want to give a shout out to this peripheral for the iPhone called the Backbone. Now what that is, it's a controller. You basically snap onto your iPhone and I mean, it does what it sounds like. Oh, right. I saw your picture of this. Yeah. Basically if a game supports virtual controls on a lot of iPhone games too, you can control it like just with a regular controller and it works great. And it works, it fits most iPhones. It fits mine, the iPhone 13 Pro. But what you can also do is you can stream games to it via an app for Steam and PS5.

So I can start a game remotely with my phone and stream it from my PC into my bedroom and play it handheld. So you can basically play any Steam or PS5 game handheld with the Backbone. And I didn't need a wired connection for it at all like it works perfectly fine with the wi-fi mouse it is so cool oh that's awesome man and it probably is a lot cheaper than like a steam deck i'd bet yes yeah

so you can basically download the steam app for your iphone and then just tell it like oh stream this game to my phone and you can just play it with regular controls and it's great that's cool man i'll look into this thing too that sounds fun it is it's nice it's like what if i sat in a different room and played games this is what you do in covet times like oh this other room what's going on in there uh you know yeah i'm pretty much a bedroom gamer i should but if i did it more from the couch i instead yeah yeah during covet i was like what if i put a tv in my bedroom i could be sad and bored in another room while absorbing content. But yes, the Backbone Peripheral, definitely

thumbs up for me and thanks to the Watch Out for Fireballs podcast. I just talked about it a bit. That's why I got it. And in terms of watching stuff, so my wife Nina and I had a very nice vacation in the mountains right after the last talk to the audience. We were there for like maybe I think four days, five days. Went to Whistler

in the outside of the Vancouver area of Canada. Very nice. It was a winter wonderland. It looked beautiful in photos. It was like Santa's village. And we didn't do any winter sports. We just kind of walked around in the nice snowy environment, got coffee, ate a lot of good food,

drank a lot of good beer and other drinks. So yeah, we had like a real movie mindset for the first part of our vacation. But after that, I was like, I've seen too many movies. I need to not think about movies. But since I got back, I have watched two very different movies. So I finally saw Knives Out. It was not spoiled for me and I won't spoil it for you.

That's good, man. You stayed unspoiled for that long. Yes. That's impressive. I don't know how, but I didn't know if I'd like it or not because I'm a huge mystery fan. And frankly, I saw a lot of non-mystery normies saying, Knives Out is amazing. And I think, have you ever watched a mystery?

Have you ever seen a Columbo? Have you ever read a mystery novel? But no, I had a very high standard for a mystery. And yes, I think it's half an hour too long, but it's also a very good mystery. And I enjoy the structure of the movie that I won't ruin for you. But they do some interesting things with the idea of what kind of a mystery it is also isn't it nice to watch a movie that's just like hey this sounds like our old man complaining from previous but everything special effects but this really was like the special effect of the movie is a bunch of great actors are together and they act well

and are near each other like just in the same room yes uh daniel craig that's the main guy okay there's not a lot to his character but he was still fun to watch oh i'm from the south bob what are you talking about i mean that was his quirk i guess just being from the south and being able to pull off that broad accent but they're making two uh direct to netflix sequels yes yeah just with him back i believe so yeah the further adventures of uh knifey blomquist or whatever his name uh knifey outie yeah and oh yeah speaking of netflix stuff in animation news artman just announced like all of their things including uh things that we already knew about like the chicken run sequel of course mel gibson won't be in it we all know that and the new walson

gromit movie are both going to be net, direct to Netflix movies. So that's great. That's great. Especially we didn't, we had too many things to mention last time in our what we've been watching section, but we both really enjoyed Robin Robin. That was a really good, like, it felt like an old school Christmas special that you would see on TV as a, as a youngster. And I think it's meant to feel like that for kids who grew up on like BBC Christmas specials on the other side of the Atlantic too it was very well done yeah and I also watched

for no reason the Sam Raimi movie Darkman from 1990 I haven't watched that in a very long time it is so good if you've got the Marvel blues uh check this out it sets up a universe that is never really built upon outside of those direct to of those direct to VHS movies that kind of suck. But man, it is so over the top and great. And it's like part Universal Monster movie. But what if the Universal Monster was the hero is kind of the concept. And Liam Neeson is great in it. And Francis McDormand is the love interest.

It's such a weird bit of casting. But yeah, it is great. Like, boy, it was a good time for uh that kind of a movie danny elfman is doing the score right after he does batman oh wow yeah man man i gotta check that so that was the first time elfman worked with ramey i think so yeah he was the spider-man music guy for for those movies man i gotta you're giving me a hankering to watch dark i haven't watched dark man since the 90s you know what 90 goddamn minutes you're in you're out you learn about darkman there's no like oh what is this the dark boy movie that they're teasing at the end and you don't have to wait it sounds like you don't have to wait long for darkman to become

darkman in it either uh no at the end of the movie he goes i am darkman and then he never comes back to play that role oh that's too bad isn Isn't, well, and Bruce Campbell has a cameo in that too, just like in Spider-Man, right? Yes, not to spoil the movie, but the point of Darkman is he can basically 3D print a face. He can wear to imitate his enemies and to play tricks and stuff. And he's like telling his girlfriend,

he has to leave like, you'll never know who I am. I could be any stranger in the street. And the last shot is of Bruce Campbell, like walking on the street like looking behind his back it's like that's him into the wow that's dark man and it's so distracting because at this point you know who bruce campbell is yes yeah i uh but that's why i watched dark man back then because uh my middle school pal was so into evil dead and he turned me into onto evil dead he's like well you know if you're out if you're jonesing for more bruce campbell sam raimi stuff watch dark man and you get a cameo i was like i am jonesing that hard i will watch it yes it's great so yeah that's my pick of the week

is uh dark man knives out is good too but you've seen that i think you've seen that uh and uh so what i've been playing this month is after 100 hours, I finished Shin Megami Tensei V. Only 100 hours? I thought this was a Japanese RPG. And I got the true ending, too. I true ended it. I got a regular ending based on my choices. And then after I did that, I was like, well, I want true ending time.

I, you know, sorry if that is a light spoiler, but you know shimigami tensei games they all have multiple endings oh yeah of course but most like japanese rpgs are like you've got the first ending now play for 30 more hours uh though also they smt got me with their dlc money uh trick because basically I had played for 90 hours and I wanted to do the true ending but i knew i needed to level up by about 10 levels and that was taking a very long time and then the game was like or then i looked up i could pay three dollars for dlc which which is basically just hey get free levels all the time and i was like fine here's your three dollars but uh you know not bad uh but yeah it was uh smt5 was really good i liked four more and also i've i've enjoyed you know the persona games and also tokyo mirage sessions and uh the survivor

spinoffs of recent smt games i like those more than five uh but five was good five was good and the gameplay great like now they can start working on persona six yeah i mean i think i'll have time to finish persona 5 royal before that game is announced when the ps6 is out they'll finally release persona 6 for the ps5 exactly yeah and for some reason vita it'll still be on vita uh but not pc they won't do it no yeah uh but uh but so yeah i beat that game i then then started back up after that Spider-Man movie. I was like, you know what? I should see if I can platinum Miles Morales Spidey. I haven't played that in a while.

It was just fun to like swing around the Spidey again. I haven't platinum it yet, but I did a lot of the side stuff. Played some Tetris 99 again. That game's still great. Also been going back to Judgment. That's a really fun game too. I want to play Lost Judgment, but really it's just killing time until elden ring yeah i wonder what the future is for

that uh that style of game the the yakuza style of games because uh the the leader of that group uh negoshi he has now formed a new studio under a chinese developer and i wonder if they're going to continue making that kind of game and what's going to happen with the Yakuza series going on without with a lot of their talent having left yeah because Yakuza like Noguchi has been the face of Yakuza since the series began and at the uh RGG studio the ever-changing face yeah yes yeah what are you talking about it's a normal face for a normal guy. Yeah, sure. But yeah, not only that, but like news today came out. This is gamer corner here. But news today came out like Nogoshi, new details on that new studio.

And it's like, yeah, he took a bunch of other people with him from the RGG studio. So it's like it sounds like a level of exodus that happened to Koji Pro after MGS5. And what is Yakuza left with without that guy like yeah i'd be interested to see like kojima he named the studio after himself yes yeah hey as he should yeah be the auteur you know if you're if you're gonna be be the swarthy face of of gaming but uh but yeah then elden ring but then elden ring comes out and it's like, I would have played that Final Fantasy Strangers in Paradise game. Is that actually coming out soon? It's still apparently March 18th.

Wow. But like Elden Ring's like three, four weeks before it. Like I can't play two Dark Souls-y games together. I'm getting the, I think we got the PS5 version of that. Yeah, I mean, I love how stupid it looks. Like the story of it, that a 90s Limp Bizkit kind of dude is in the world of Final Fantasy. Like that's hilarious to me. And I think intentionally so.

And lastly, I've been playing a bunch of my workout games as in I just passed a million steps in Pikmin Bloom. The thing about Pikmin Bloom is so to our listeners if you haven't played the game basically you plant seedlings and by walking around they grow and you pluck these little Pikmin creatures out of the ground and once you give them enough love they want to get a little present and they go back to where they were originally their seedling came from and for me I did a lot of that

in Canada so now like 27 Pikmin are on their way to or back from Canada so some of them it's like 18 days for normal one to walk there and back you're sending pikmin on a death march yes it's a trail of tears right now hey they're allowed across the border that's true uh yeah i i'm having a ton of fun with pikmin game and also it's fun the community aspect i'm getting into of sending postcards to you and nina and back and forth is it's cute it's fun uh and also i've been playing my new workout game on switch

is fitness boxing 2 uh which is fun it's just you know you hop back and forth punch combos uh i like it and i looked it up like oh who made this game it's the developers of quest 64 like we were still together god bless them they gotta be doing something uh and uh also i want to say what i've been listening to lately i've really getting into the city pop genre of japanese music uh which is like 70s and 80s style music of of pop from japan which was like my favorite anime openings of 80s cartoons were usually city pop style songs so when i learned there was a name for that that genre that was getting more popular in the united states as a retro genre i started looking into like channels on youtube that just like stream it and basically it's a radio channel so my new favorite one is called

new j channel which they they play a lot of cool stuff and they also have like the when they play the song they have pictures of the albums they're from so you get to see these like super fun like 80s or 70s style like photos of the the stars uh from the album covers i hate how little uh japanese music is actually on spotify yeah i don't think it's spotify's fault but still i mean it's like yes japanese music publishers are not famous for their love of streaming no so yeah and finally my watching stuff nearly done with the full rewatch of Sopranos it's the best show I love it um I watched not Scream 5 but Scream 4 which I hadn't seen and Scream 4 rules I love Scream 4 it's uh Scraform

Scraform and then Five Cream is the new one you'll hear that joke again uh next week uh also uh i watched bird cage i hadn't watched that in forever uh that film is really interesting as a uh it is so 1996 like every joke added to they adapted la cage a fois uh but then added jokes about like strom thurman in the oj trial to it yeah i don't know if i've ever seen that movie either but uh it's nathan lane and robin williams right yeah hank azaria hank azaria with a character he wouldn't play now but playing character who is uh what gay and also not white guatemalan okay yes yeah guatemalan gay man but that's like the perfect hank azaria live action role i know but but boy was he in some kind of

shape for that like he like me how but but also uh if i can suggest somebody watch something we've said it before on the satoshi gohan uh podcast about millennium actress but magnetic rose his segment of the memories movie that 40 minute film is on youtube in full in hd check it out it's all official also been catching up on tv shows dark side of the ring a bunch of depressing wrestling stuff but it's fun i was gonna say is that like a Lord of the Rings thing? But no, you explained it to me. It's pro wrestling. I watched Watching All the Detroiters.

That show's great. Such a funny show. That's where the I Think You Should Leave guy came from, right? Yes. Yeah. It's more of a sitcom, but a ridiculous sitcom. I've been watching Peacemaker and it's fun. Hey, I like obscure DC characters and I like John Cena and it's a good time.

What is that? Oh, wow. Okay. Well, it's the spinoff of The Suicide Squad. Okay. Not Suicide Squad. The Suicide Squad. You know what?

I saw an ad for that and it made me groan because they're just like, they're doing the Marvel movie joke. It's like, he's actually called that. Yeah. Is that his name? Yes. Yeah. Dr. Octopus. the marvel movie joke it's like he's actually called that yeah is that his name yes yeah dr octopus uh but hey this is our rated jokes about that bob with like butts and sex and they're like

is he really fucking called that shit yes that is what they say i'm sorry i'm sure it's fine no it's a good show with a great cast it's if like if you're not into the james gunn style then you're not gonna like this show because it is jamesn as hell. But it also just felt different to see like characters fuck in this show. You see boobs and butts in it. Like these are things and they swear

you don't see that in Marvel shows, you know, but it reminded me too of Steve Agee is a lead character in the show and it reminded me how much I love him on Sarah Silverman program.

Him and Brian Posehn's relationship was great to me as a gay relationship on a tv show that felt like me unlike every most gay characters on shows i appreciate that aspect of the show uh i i really wanted to like that show it felt like the the descendant of things like strangers with candy and like uh ucb but boy her shtick just was so dated by that time that show aired let me tell you if you watch it in 2022 it's way more dated and not good yeah and in fact bad i what if a cute girl said a naughty i can't fucking stand it man like it's so i but so it made me want to re-watch some sarah silverman

programs and in one case the tab episode which is my favorite story for the brian and steve characters that episode isn't on paramount plus and i don't know why because there's like i want nothing to do with this maybe that is it because obviously we know why one episode of the sarah silverman program is not there and by the way if you're going to watch it not only do you have to see the not funny stuff about like uh post-racism comedy of sarah silverman saying slurs and isn't it cute and blah blah blah you also have to see jay johnston playing a cop and if that makes you uncomfortable then uh i you know my he just went to one rally he didn't commit a crime no no though my husband asked me to like oh did more stuff come out about that and i said like

well the fbi would have arrested him if he did like a crime. But, uh, then I looked into it and like another show that had fire him, not Bob's burgers said, Oh yeah, I talked to him and I confirmed with him that he does believe the election is stolen. And he agrees with those people.

Like, it's not just that he was there. then we can't cast out of America and TV shows then. I mean, they don't, but anyway, you can't, I guess my point is you can't go home again with

sarah silverman program and if somebody wanted to cut together only the brian and steve storylines i'd pay him 25 for it i watch book of boba fett i've complained enough about that it's you know could be better i'm also finally watching the boys that's a good dirty superhero i've heard that's good i've heard that's good i've heard that's very good it's actually good it's an actually good show as is atlanta i'm finally watching the donald glover show atlanta it's really good too i like it there's one transphobic thing in it i wasn't a fan of but uh and uh also in movie mindset i watched uh rashomon my husband had never seen it before and and I watched it a long time.

That's not how I remember it. That's like the best joke in that episode of The Simpsons. And I also watched, for the first time ever in post-Christmas, I watched the Meet Me in St. Louis, the Judy Garland classic. Ring, ring, ring with the trolley. It is where the trolley song is from, yes. And also, Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas. Both are in that film. That song's depressing. Yes song is from, yes. And also, Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas. All right.

Both are in that film. That song's depressing. Yes, it is, yeah. But Meet Me in St. Louis, Louis, meet me at the fair. That's the title song of it. And lastly, I want to say our pals at Craig of the Creek have a brand new season of Craig of the Creek finally airing. They just got renewed for a whole other season and a movie and a spinoff uh they're doing incredibly well i think we talked to matt burnett when the show had just started airing i think the second season okay well no oh yeah we talked to him when it started

airing and then when we did the craig of the creek episode they were into the second season so yeah we've we've got to see you know him go from the show just being new to him being like one of the most you know successful showrunners of kids tv in the u.s right now i hope he remembers us i still am pushing that you know craig should hang out with some podcaster friends friendly some friendly adults with wisdom or that the elders of the creek who are the dnd playing guys they should have a couple new friends who hang out with them, you know? I'm all for this. Yes, yeah.

But yes, lots of fun stuff I watched this month. So now we're on to questions for Talking Simpsons. And first up, we have War of the Simpsons. And Joe Hodgson says, In my family, Christmas Eve was the one night per year I could basically guarantee that I'd see the adults in my life get drunk. Save for my mom, who usually had to keep it together since someone needed to drive home as a kid i just noticed it as people getting progressively louder and louder and laughing

more and good old big uncle dave crashing on the basement couch at my grandparents house they always had a party it never bothered me and i guess i'm fortunate in that i can't recall a night where i was embarrassed by someone just the few occasions where my mom would be pissed the next day like the one christmas eve my dad couldn't tell her where the presents were hidden either because he couldn't remember or he was being playful he ended up getting them out himself i think they were in his trunk and uh yeah like i mean people people in my family drank yes it was northeast in ohio you got to get through the day right but uh my grandma getting drunk was something that would happen on Christmas. Yeah.

Grandma's having more fun than usual. The oldest generation in the group, that was more of a holidays thing or a family reunion thing of like, oh, my great aunt is drunk. I never know. Or really, it's like remembering later they were drunk. I just knew she was enjoying tonic. She used the term tonic a lot. My grandma would get drunk and, like, razz the TV on Christmas. Oh, that's fun.

Doing some real quips. Well, also, just the description of Uncle Big Dave. I love that description of, like, yeah, the fun Uncle Big Dave. He's like Uncle Ted ted from uh bobby's world that yeah i the one other reclaimed childhood memory of like realizing oh my mom had a lot of fun tonight was uh it but it led to an angry argument about scrabble with a sister which oh no like it was uh or an aunt of mine that i i see now like oh this was some old tensions coming out with some beers and Scrabble. We never talked to her again.

Also on War of the Simpsons, Lucas Dooley says, something about Homer's why not I paid for it line sounds very Garfield like to me. Just hearing it in audio. Maybe that's because Homer doesn't usually use quiet sarcasm. His sarcasm is screamed. Yes, it's true. Like like i guess it is like why not appear for it like it is it is an underplayed garf style line yeah of also just saying it in a way that a person doesn't recognize it like when homer is sarcastic he wants you to hear him or doesn't care that you hear him the way homer like mumbles it it also implies that like homer

doesn't want to insult him or like yeah i care about ned's feelings which is like homer like mumbles it it also implies that like homer doesn't want to insult him or like yeah i care about ned's feelings which is like homer would never do that yeah it does imply homer's more of a realistic character and that he's just like well i can't say this out loud in season four he'd be screaming he'd be hitting that with a pipe yes yeah i guess you know like we say many times it's before a few brain injuries for homer yeah i think i think this final like drunken knight just killed enough brain cells so he didn't put on any airs anymore when it came to company he's like you know what you've all seen me in my lowest i'm not gonna hold anything back anymore yeah so up next we have uh children of a lesser clod and uh ryo geo says i can't defend nor would i want to the

carl basketball joke but i think you guys all missed the of, but the black man said joke my read on it, especially given the time period in which this was released was that it was a joke on urban cool being marketed to suburban kids. Yes, it played the stereotypes, but the whole bust a cap business, but my head candidate at the moment was that this was a capitalistic scam perpetrated by a husband and wife team to take advantage of the then current

marketing trends of monetizing black culture for profit. Am I being too generous? Is that too deep? Was it just a joke and poor taste or am i on to something and i say i agree with i like the first half of the joke where uh bart uh is is being you know led into this room and he is like uh tactless little boys like the black man told me yes because he thought he'd learn how to talk like a black man in his estimation but uh the part i don't like is like i ought to bust a cap in your ass no that joke sucks but i i think it's a good it is a good joke on marketing that that carl joke another person had a good point of like that carl joke uh was part of a bad string of jokes that like that south park would do a few years later in their christian rock episode yeah uh where cartman tells token like token you can play

you can play the keyboard you're black and then token goes like fuck you and then he actually can play it very well because he is black and i was like uh these very dated jokes about like stereotypes can be true though right like yeah i mean the old lady saying you know i ought to bust the cap on your ass is basically like i'm gonna haul ass salalapalooza just like what if the old lady saying, you know, I ought to bust a cap on your ass is basically like, I'm going to haul ass to Lollapalooza. Just like, what if the old lady said an outrageous thing? You wouldn't expect that, would you? Yeah. But no, I like the first half of the joke, and I think that was the intent.

Yeah, yeah. Also on the episode, Echo Cimarron says, I forgot I can't see through metal kint is from this episode. I've always loved that line, but working in local TV news for the past year, anytime an anchor asks a reporter in the field, or especially our helicopter pilot, something they have no way of knowing, it always pops back into my head, that line. Another thing for working from news, the bit of Arnie Pye going rogue and throwing his shoe is so funny. It's a bit less funny, funny though when your helicopter pilot goes rogue and decides live coverage of the george floyd protests is a great time to go on a weird facebook

uncle rant about antifa i must have missed this rogue helicopter pilot story i would guess it's just you know happens in local news nobody even talks about it but yeah that's so funny that i like hearing you know here there's so many local news jokes in the series and now we get to hear from a person in the field to be like oh yeah this is very much how it goes in the real world that was the the grand return of arnie pie after six years of being put on the back burner that's why it's such an amazing role yes you're not the time kent you're not the time he comes back with like an emblazing inferno of just like castellaneta reminding you like you should have been using me this whole time is arnie he's so great he's comedy

gold and so because we only do one what a cartoon episode a month uh not counting the movie one of course we're going to start reading questions and comments from both talking futurama and talking of the hill our monthly series if you're on the patreon at the five dollar level or higher so let's start with talking futurama bending in the wind uh nina matsumoto was our guest on that one thanks to you thanks to you again nina so emily m says odalay is a great anglization of odalay in the american english we use the rotic r as in red ribbon rack which is a post alveolar approximate a i.e a sound you make when the tip of your tongue approaches the alveolar ridge in your mouth. By the way, I have a minor in linguistics.

I don't, I've seen that word before, but I don't think I've ever said it out loud. Alveolar, alveolar, whatever. In Spanish, the R between vowels is an alveolar tap, i.e. the sound you make when the tip of your tongue actually makes contacts with or taps the alveolar ridge. It's very similar to the way you pronounce the American English D words like ladder, widow, and shadow. All that to say, Beck's anglization of Odile definitely suggests he grew up around a lot of Spanish speakers. And to anyone learning Spanish, try using that D in ladder sound when you see an R between vowels like cara, tero using a rotic r when

speaking spanglish as a dead giveaway that you were a uh gringo and maybe it's gringo a slur because it's gring with an ad they don't let you type gringo into patreon it could be that it would be seen as a slur yeah i understand that uh so uh emily goes on to say i learned the hard way after a bunch of costa rican school children mocked my accent in the English class I was teaching. So, yeah, instead of saying cara or perro, you say cara, perro. Perro. Yeah, that's taking me back to high school Spanish now. Yeah, I see.

Perro. Yeah, that's helpful. And in the replies to that to Nina, our Beck-spert, made it clear of like, yeah, here's a fun story of him explaining it as well. I think it was Letterman. And that Letterman was like this old man going, uh-huh. Different languages, eh? And by the way, we got a lot of comments for that episode. So people seem to like this Nina character. I think we'll keep her around. And yeah, also in there, Nina shared the link to that article of like the beginner's guide to Beck,

which is very helpful if you do not grow up listening to Beck and seeing his discography grow alongside you. Jonathan says on Bendin' in the Wind, I remember liking this episode fine, but haven't rewatched it in quite a while. I wasn't into Beck, so most of that stuff was lost on me i was however a big simon and garfunkel fan so the cylon and garfunkel joke really got me cylon's monotone metallic singing voice is just a fantastic way to send up artists known for their tight harmonies and yeah that is a good joke about how uh simon and garfunkel are known for like like being good not just well written songs but being good at singing together and having like this very high like floaty wispy

voices so to instead have a robot voice beat parsley sage rose it's it's a really good joke not just for the reference of silence i remember that from Battlestar Galactica when I was a kid. And wait a few years, they'll be more relevant than ever. Yep, yeah. So that's another episode of Talk to the Audience. Of course, we should be reading Talking to the Hill comments and questions,

but that episode isn't out yet, so we'll get to that next month in case you're wondering. And I guess we'll be doing two at once based on the timing of it. But yeah, and don't forget, you know, with all the cool stuff coming up, thanks to all of our new subscribers who have have signed up in the last you know month or so and uh

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