Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - July 2022

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

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I heartily endorse this event or product. every day of my life who is here with me today as always. Hey, it's Henry Gilbert. Still sad that there were no DVD or game or movie announcements this weekend. I'm also sad about a few of those things. But yes, welcome to our community podcast. If you're listening on the Patreon, this hits at the end of the month. If you're on the free feed, this hits at the beginning of the month. What we do on this podcast is talk about Simpsons news and also what's happening in our neck of the woods. And also we respond to questions and comments left on our Patreon.

And this has been a fairly uneventful month uh there's but we did a bit of traveling in june and may but i think july all of july was just us podcasting nothing exciting happened i didn't get covet again this month no double covet no i mean i did i did have a slight little cough that has mostly gone away now but uh i'm feeling good folks i'm feeling all right yeah it's been a month of recovery and uh and healing yeah well and soon next month uh i'll be doing all the things i this was just a lot of uh a lot of podcasts recording this month so like next week i'm getting a haircut next week i'm gonna uh go see a show uh well actually we did a bit of that yes we'll talk about it but yeah the traveling will be happening next month, possibly, Pax.

We have nothing to announce yet. Nope. But fingers crossed on that. Tell Pax to get on emailing people now. It's a month away, the dang show is. Man. So let's talk about Simpsons news. So Emmy nominations happened.

And when Billy met Lisa, the Simpsons short got an Emmy nomination for best short and I will say it's a good looking short it's also a commercial and I say not deserved that's my opinion you can be nice but it's kind of lackluster I mean it's fine for what it is but I don't think it deserves an Emmy

what if it's better than all the other shorts that were commercials it might be the only short that is a commercial that was uh nominated yeah yeah no I think it's I mean I know David Silverman directed it he's great but we love him yeah we have to say that every time just to be clear but yeah I I wouldn't have thought uh I mean I guess how many short subjects are there on TV or uh well now that it's streaming i guess there's many short subjects all around but and you know whatever yeah i i would bet it won't win i uh then again what if what if simpson steamrolls the competition like they do every like you know three out of one out every three emmys it seems like yeah so they've they've got plenty of emmys they're not

hurting for emmy so i don't think i'm being mean by saying this doesn't deserve an Emmy even though while I'm looking for that pixelated and afraid one that I'd say that that's a better episode of the Simpsons than Billy Met Lisa is as a short of the Simpsons though I'd still say that like I didn't see what else it was up

against but in the animated category I would bet there's some better stuff yeah yeah but yeah that's what's happening in emmy news uh billy met lisa and pixelated and afraid also out of comic-con there was some news about new episodes that i found particularly interesting uh yes yeah so uh yes they're going to be two treehouse of horror episodes this year possibly correcting the flaw that the number of the treehouse is always one number behind the season yeah so i think um that's not the reason they're doing it but it's interesting that maybe that will correct that uh perceived flaw i wonder i wonder if the the the one that

is a full episode parody will just be presented as a full episode or it's called treehouse of horror special the subject instead of calling it, you know, 34. Because yes, this is Treehouse 33 that they announced, but then also there will be a second one as well. They better give it a number. So yeah, there will be a full-length Treehouse of Horror episode based on it. Yes, Krusty is it.

They joked that they had saw a number of people who get tattoos as crusty as penny wise the clown from it and so now they are doing a full parody you know this i i think selman was coming out swinging in his uh in his promotion of this i saw yeah he's like we're doing tons of stuff we're not going to just be sitting on our laurels like we i think he's feeling refreshed he's feeling powerful uh and just him but i think with a hit parody it lets him have two both sides of things they get to do what al jean does which is parody something that's like four decades old yeah but also something

that's kind of recent because he just had the recent uh duo of films that's right uh so that's what's happening with the full-length episode they're also doing a traditional episode one of the parodies they're doing is of the anime death notes yes which is interesting because you know they released a promotional image and i was like this looks familiar where have i seen this before but uh better oh right my wife uh drew the bongo comic the award-winning comic eisner winning winning comic in 2008 with writer ian boothby i mean uh they did it first they did it when death note was actually relevant i know there's going to be another death note movie coming uh but yeah it seems very odd to me that uh not just any bongo comic but one that won an eisner did this first and they're not acknowledging it uh nina or ian

neither one are involved they found out when we found out yes i believe yeah and i say i think i saw ian reply to nina's tweet so i first saw it in our uh on twitter and my instant thought was like wait nina did that didn't she and before i added nina saying like hey you seen this because i am certain she has seen that this yes uh i then go to her twitter feed and see she tweeted about it and then ian boothby is like one of the first replies like they did what yeah i'm not trying to speak for nina if you want to know what she thinks about the situation go to her twitter at space coyote but yeah i i don't like that they're doing this without uh any mention of what had come before yes, if you want to be a stinker, Bongo owns that property.

Bongo owns that story and the art and everything. And they're not even legally obligated to acknowledge that it happened before. But it would be nice if you're going to do your way too late parody to actually acknowledge the one that did it first and totally did it in a cool art style. And again, one in Eisner. Yes, yeah i i think it's kind of lame they're not doing that but i mean we've we've talked about this as an overall thing an issue with there definitely seems to be at least with the simpsons writing producers a feeling of the simpsons comics aren't good or they don't care about them or sometimes publicly on commentaries they make fun of them which we thought was bad and sucked

like so yeah i could i could totally see that this could have come up at some point and it's beginning they're like oh death node uh well what if we parodied that though it seems so random of all anime yeah well i guess i mean it's a scary uh comic and animation series which makes it fit more for treehouse than like it would make sense to do a treehouse of say dragon ball or one piece you know but they could do one of a genji ito uh comic they can do that it's just i mean i guess it's a death note is now a classic even though it's barely 20 years old and the anime is like i think like 15 years old at this point maybe even yeah i think it's like 15 years old but it feels like a little late to the party with this and then you know not acknowledging the original story i i'm repeating myself but it sucks and i don't like i don't like the situation and you can check out what nina has

to say on her twitter account again i'm not speaking for these are my own thoughts but it it stinks yeah i don't particularly like it i mean they could uh be easy to we're we're too close to this story perhaps but i think so yeah but i i do think you know it's this i would think what way to do this that before it comes out they could talk about this. Like maybe Selman could get aware of this. Like I mean, though, it does strike me that like, OK, a producer. Again, we don't know. And this I'm also not speaking for me or Ian, but you would.

OK, I could totally see producers, high level producers. They don't know. Yeah, of course not. But when you go down all these levels, nobody in the animation studio knew about the Eisner-winning comic of it. Really? The design style of it is also, of the one screenshot they showed of it, of the animation version of it, it does look good, though I thought Mina's looked better like

also yes she captures that art style uh perfectly because nina is an incredibly talented artist and i i love that she revealed or that extra detail she revealed in in some of her tweets about it was that like the extra handicap of that she had to perfectly capture that style like not just how the artist draws death note but also like angles on it character designs like lisa looks just like l but then she revealed like oh and i also still had to style follow the house rule style of overbite which is unnatural for the art style she was mimicking i don't even think i noticed until she pointed out that's how subtle it is. But, uh, yes. But again,

uh, that's my thoughts on it. Maybe you could nicely tweet at Matt Salmon or LG and say, Hey, uh, do you plan on acknowledging the original story that went in Eisner? Or how about get, uh,

Nina and Ian involved in some way, or at least give them some credit or a shout out or something. You know what? I, I would feel like if they just hired Nina to do an official, like a promotional poster of the episode, I bet could do that yes and i bet and we know she has reasonable rates yes like she's not hurting for work but she i think she would love the opportunity yeah i but again we're speaking for her here that's not fair it's not our job it's

not our job to speak for women no i i know but uh but we're not inviting women on this no no no um but it's not as bad as burying the ener Award winning work of a woman, I would say. No, I would agree. I would agree. But yeah, it was. And again, that it happened the same week as the Eisners. Yeah, that's right. Like on the anniversary of it winning the big award, which gave so much prestige to Bongo.

Okay. But the other interesting bit about it i i am curious about is they're going to hire an outside studio they didn't say who oh i missed that detail yeah i uh they they say it's just not one of their standard studios to animate that segment uh and they didn't say what the other segments are going to be though matt selman in an interview did say uh one of the segments they do more than four now even they do like you know 90 second segments or whatever he says one will break some rules quote break some of the rules we've never broken before which what could that be substance porn yeah

they're making it legal they're making it uh or i mean i would say one of the clear rules is homer can't be violent to lisa Are we going to see that? I don't want to see that. Or will they say shit? Will they get away? You know, even in the movie, they didn't say shit. You can get away with one shit on TV now. On Disney Plus, though?

Can you? Dare you? I don't know. Well, you know, Deadpool's on Disney Plus now. Oh, really? Wow. I guess I had to sign that waiver when they added all the 14 plus content. If you went to Disney Plus this weekend, you'd see Deadpool stretched out over the top of it.

Yes. So more, less angering, season 34 news. Melissa McCarthy will be a guest playing the son of Abe's new girlfriend. And Krusty will become an Ellen-style talk show host. Though it seems like they're playing on the... Ellen is mean stories. Yes. Based on the description, it seemed like they were playing on the the ellen is mean stories yes based on the description it seemed like they were playing on the like crusty can't handle being nice i think that's like the the pitch of the story but maybe they're playing off the ellen is mean i did like based on the pitch i read in articles it didn't seem like they were underlining the

ellen sucks to work for part you know a little bit it definitely though i mean maybe it is a crusty it's about crusty can't be nice all the time on television, like for the morning show. But I, well, I mean, it's right there on a silver platter. Like, this isn't even like hushed tones you can talk about. Like, hey, nobody talks about it, but Ellen's not very nice. Like, no, this was front page headlines and she quit her show over it. That's true. Yeah, I feel like they could.

And it's so easy. Krustyy being an he already is an asshole boss he was a joke about being an asshole uh to johnny carson style that's true yeah i'm sure they all acknowledge i just want to see how it'll how it'll pan out but yeah no other big news no no games no new movies no new dvds uh alex hirsch hosted the panel i saw the image that david silverman drew of homer fighting shrek yes i also saw one that he drew of like skinner and chalmers watching the aurora borealis together so it was all very fun but not very fluffy nothing nothing big no giant news no like simpsons hit and run remastered no no season 20 actual season 20 dvds with commentaries nothing like that yeah when when 11 30 came around when also because this was the first real comic con since 2019 this was not a streamed panel like the last two years have been because they were stay-at-home panels this was a

real panel uh so the news of it all dropped like variety and entertainment weekly just hit publish like while the uh panel was going on or maybe right after and when i went into the variety article it said you know describe those upcoming episodes and then it said now don't expect anything about dvds or movies or video games and i was like oh well it really is deflating yeah just i mean at least uh they you're not gonna be set up for disappointment i guess so it's just you know you'll be disappointed it sucks how much they uh disney disney doesn't want to do the dvds anymore that's pretty clear now but i at least gravity falls creator alex hirsch had some fun making david silverman draw a couple silly things yeah

yeah and there are also more action figures on the way uh there's a wave three of the super seven figures and that's going to be kang kodos with maggie burns and ralph and these are all very cool uh i haven't gotten one of these yet i might want to get the burns one i'm thinking about it hey if you pre-order now you'll get it in 2024 oh jesus no i mean i'm still suez canal is still blocked up i ordered that uh crusty and i haven't even gotten like the the first hint of when it'll be coming out they have to open every package and remove the cigarette first disney but yeah no the uh the kang and kodos uh are great i mean it's the accessories that really make the difference and yeah all very very easy to lose

it looks like yes yeah that's why you're not supposed to take him out of the box or you buy two like yeah that i think my favorite is that kang comes with a earth capital sign i think that's my favorite though burns does come with a bobo uh and a blinky served on a platter and perfectly steepleable fingers oh nice yeah the the sculpts are very good on those. Or at least the theoretical sculpts. These are all like, you know, the... Prototypes? Prototypes, yeah.

Super 7 hasn't failed yet. I've never heard people say, oh, they all suck. They never turn out how they look. I'm impressed by them so far. So there's going to be a new documentary on The Simpsons, a six-part doc by the show Icons Unearthed. And yes, it's from the director of the toys in the movies that made us, so I won't be watching.

But I'm sure a lot of good interviews will come out of it, though I imagine 90% of them will be left on the cutting room floor to make room for record scratch sound effects and wacky video transitions and narrators talking over people that are supposedly boring. But our bro Bill Oakley's in it. You know, I'm really, I'm rooting for it. Yeah, listeners, especially if you talk to the audience, know that when we get into like what we watch things, I both hate but also have watched most of the docs from the series of the toys that made us or the movies that made us

or also the same group of people did, now I can't remember the name of the toys that made us. Or the movies that made us. Or also the same group of people did. Now I can't remember the name of it. But it was about the Disney attractions as well. And all of them are so frustrating. Because they actually do great, great interviews. Or they find the people that like. If you gave me a list of. Here's the people you should talk to.

And they'll dish the dirt on all these things. They pretty much get all of them. Like it's like oh well they couldn't get james cameron for aliens but they got the writer and the executive producer and like the the guy who did all the special effects but and this like of the list of there's also some people who are just like oh that's the funny here's a comedian just to say stuff and i left that bullshit out of there but uh by list of guests but they have bill oakley rich moore john vini mimi pond i mean that's that's some dirt there todd mcfarland who you know among all those other great things he did he made all those great simpsons toys

and phil roman who i don't think i've i've seen a couple phil roman interviews he talks more about garfield than simpsons in most of them. He rarely talks about working on Simpsons. That's how he made his first castle. It's built out of Garfield gold. I mean, but yeah, so these are all, we know the stories that these people could tell. And I feel like if they want to find dirt for it, Bill Oakley can certainly talk about the critic thing. Or that he's not been invited back to the party.

Mimi Pond, we did a whole interview with her. She's told her story. John Vitti knows where the bodies are buried, but I wonder how angry or not he'll make people in that. Well, you know, James L. Brooks, he has the iron curtain he throws down. I know, yeah. Because when that unauthorized oral history came out, it was basically all hands on deck with him saying, do not talk to this person. Yes. Yeah. I mean, that shows you that VD is not a part of that group no more, but yeah, it seems like a lot of the other classics ain't in there. Like no David Silverman.

No, uh, they, these people should get Wes Archer. He seems pretty open talk but uh yeah I I mean I'll check it out six parts too it's like wow they're really going deep in this thing I'm sure it'll be better than the other like fawning like there's that BBC doc from like 20 years ago that I thought was like me kind of I've never seen a good Simpsons documentary because we make the best Simpsons uh documentary content yeah I mean also I'm mad at at the, maybe it's because I've shit all over his work on these things, but Icons on Earth, you can't talk to us. You can't work with

the Talking Simpsons guys. Yeah, the number one Simpsons podcaster? What's going on here? And if Allie and Julie are in this, I'm going to be extra jealous. But yes, look forward to it next year. Icons on Earth, season two on Vice TV. and our final bit of news do i hear wedding bells no i haven't gone crazy because yardley smith got married

for the third time to dan grice they met eight years ago at a simpsons fan event in springfield oregon yes and he was working security so he later became a co-host on her podcast small town dicks and then they fell in love yeah he's detective dan as she referred tohost on her podcast, Small Town Dicks, and then they fell in love. Yeah, he's Detective Dan. She referred to him on that podcast. And yeah, they've known each other for eight years. And finally, I think it was, you know, they went, they got a post-COVID wedding. They can finally have their wedding post-COVID. Some of us had to do that.

Yeah. You know, John Cena just got married in Vancouver. I shared with you, I was like, hey, look, you and John Cena, you both got for regular married during the pandemic and then had your actual like party and stuff in Vancouver. My wife and I have a number of different wedding anniversaries. You can listen to us fall in love on our podcast. Listen to Summer of 4'2". That's Nina's first guest appearance in person. You can hear the hearts floating above my head.

But, you know, Yardley smith she seems like a real sweetheart yeah she was quite nice to us for the you know uh 30 seconds we spent around her she was very nice she definitely humored us and i appreciate that i wish her and detective day and nothing but the wedded bliss especially because they're a podcasting couple like isn't that also beautiful too couples who podcast together uh i need a rhyme i'll get back to you well i mean well together rhymes with together but a podcast listeners you figure it out it's a contest it's early in the morning here where our brain we're not as snappy as usual it's true i don't even have coffee with me for once oh man i have water yuck uh so let's move on to talk about what's happening in our world our our schedule. Let's talk about that. So our What a Cartoon episode for August will be the Smiling Friends episode, Enchanted Forest.

Yes, we're covering a fairly new show, a show from 2022, and it's a new Adult Swim hit. It's very, very funny. And this is brought to us by one of our patrons, Professor Gaskin. And we really excited to talk about this actually recorded it like over two months ago yes yeah maybe two months ago but yeah very funny series and if you guessed it when bob was tweeting that he had watched the rankin bass hobbit movie you were right yes that was the tip off and it's a very very good parody of that so yes kicking off august with a look at a new series it's a lot of fun and the australian guy from smiling friends he is on the he's got a rocket strapped to him by the adult swim factory because he at comic-con he just announced a new show oh really koala man show oh yeah which he's making with justin roiland so i was gonna say he's this decade's justin roiland and it's uh it seems like most of his stuff aggressively

uzi as well. I love it. I love it. So for patrons in August, as usual, we have our Patreon-exclusive miniseries. The first one, Talking Futurama, will be covering the episode Godfellas, a parody of a classic Twilight Zone, kind of, but it's also asking a lot of questions about, is God real? Is he a giant robot that we live on? Things like that.

It's a gorgeous gorgeous episode too yes and also on talking in the hill we'll be covering junkie business possibly the first bad episode that still has funny parts but it's very wrong-headed you'll hear us complain about it plenty on that episode we just recorded it recently it's so fresh in my mind yeah we have a lot of grousing about the libertarian uh bs of it which is uh which time history has proven these were very unfounded worries yes the episode had about the ada absolutely we dig deep into it small businesses are fine ours is doing well yeah uh and yeah that's for five dollar patrons at patreon.com talking simpsons and the entire back catalog is there as well and for a movie for august or what

a cartoon movie we're covering uh the rescuers down under down under down under to uh end our disney renaissance summer so yes so far this summer we've done little mermaid beauty and the beast and now we're closing it out with the rescuers down under filling that important gap between little mermaid and beauty and the beast boy it's a real it's 89 90 91 we are filling out that whole time, but I guess we went 89-91-90. Yes, we're mixing it up here. It's a crazy summer. Yes, yeah.

I mean, it's the odd one out in that it's not a musical, that it's a sequel to a 1977 film, and Disney would be totally done with this type of movie after this movie. But it also is a hugely important moment for technologically for Disney. Plus, you know all those great animators we talked about who worked on Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast? They also worked on Rescuers Down Under,

but nobody really talks about the animation in it. That's why it looks so good. I have not seen it yet, but I'm looking forward to watching it. And again, if you want to listen to that, that's at the $10 level, but you can hear the extended free preview on the free feed or on the $5 level a week early and then for September our what a cartoon movie poll will be a yes no vote on Beavis and Butthead to the universe because

we want to wash that Disney taste out of our mouth with our favorite rude teenagers who are going to be on Paramount Plus very very soon with new episodes a whole new season yeah yeah and i saw a clip of them watching tiktok videos and it's it's the same thing it's like they didn't lose anything that despite the media changing the comments are still the same and it's still funny it's so yeah i've watched that same way it's the guy with the tattoo video yeah like showing you to do like prison hacks yes it's like uh you burned up my t-box Why did you burn up my... God, I love that. I love that guy. They are...

Though it is a funny change in the dynamic, though. Instead of mocking very powerful rock and roll stars, they are mocking a TikTok influencer, which some of those people are rich, but other people just have a TikTok. But yeah, they put out a whole... Basically a full short as well like eight minute shorts i was tempted i didn't i'm waiting for the series to go live but it's

about a beavis like talking to a dumpster fire it's good yeah i watched the whole thing it was really good but yeah you know we've we have had a disney-fied year so far and it's time to get a little dirty again it was like april roger abbott and then may toy story then three more months of disney yeah now let's just i think the rest of the year no disney or pixar that's correct yeah yeah we've got uh i mean we did have the filth of south park but even that was yeah done in parody of disney it was basically parodying the movies we then spend all summer doing that's true it was a good way to kick things off plus you know here we've been all this nostalgic and shit

and not that we won't be nostalgic about Beavis and Butthead, but this is a 2022 ass movie, Do the Universe. And we already both like it. Yes, yeah.

And we might have something cool in relation to Beavis and Butthead Do the Universe this month too. That's right. We can't commit to it yet.

You don't know, but maybe, maybe. No promises't know but maybe maybe no promises kids yeah no promise but yes that's all on the patreon at patreon.com slash talking simpsons now as for what we've been doing you know uh extracurricular activities not for podcasting i don't have a lot going on i fell into a real monster hunter hole because the expansion just came out i'm playing monster hunter a lot monster hunter rise it's really good and i can mention a game that no one has heard of and no one has played uh world's end club yeah i had i saw your tweet about it i was like wait what exactly yeah if you like danganronpa and uh you know virtue's last reward and 999 don't

play this because it's like a bad version of that made by the same people not very good i regret the time i spent on it that's too bad but yeah i actually took a weekend off which i never do and i finished up a bunch of games i had like uh almost finished so i also finished kirby squeak squad and castlevania harmony of dissonance so just finishing up some old portable games that were you know 80 done cool cool man yeah no it seemed like monster hunter rise is your big one because uh often i would go on the discord uh and see like oh bob's playing this now he's like okay wow he's really doing monster huntering it up this month i'm close to 100 hours but that's not really anything for monster hunter you know uh so as for watching i am watching more one piece at the gym uh i'm in the water seminar it's getting really good i'm enjoying one piece

i'm watching like eight episodes a week so conceivably i could catch up i'm only in episode like 280 we'll see where i end up and you're gonna be jacked by the time you get to the end i am skipping the filler arc so okay you can just you can cut out like 200 episodes before we get to a thousand uh i saw cabaret for the first time uh because of the blank check podcast mini series on bob fossey i gotta support our fellow entertainment bobs oh yes yeah and uh yes very very good i don't need to tell you that it's great yeah i i watched it too this month and it was um you know me and you watched about half of the same movie it's true but yeah i uh though boy what a time to watch cabaret a film about uh the rise of fascism as people like you know just have fun around it and don't

yeah don't take it seriously if you're at a picnic and someone starts singing a song uh get out get out of there get the hell out of there especially when everybody else speaks german most of the time and he sings it in english like yeah now that uh but you know what i am uh that that song is entrancing the uh the tomorrow belongs to me it is. It's a well-written Nazi anthem. That's why it's so evil. But yeah. Oh, and it's got an abortion in it too, just to make it all timely. And bisexuality.

Yeah, yeah. It's got all this stuff in it. So also, I'll mention these, although you'll hear us talk about these on something else. So I won't say anything more. I saw a new animated movie, so did Henry. Mad God and the Spine of Night. They're fun mad god is very disgusting but it's a one insane man's passion project that he got finished so kudos to him and uh we'll talk more about those on something else you'll hear it at some point in the future we'll share with you when you hear about b i was it was certainly

a change of pace and we talk about all that disney stuff we're living on oh boy we haven't watched these uh unrated would likely be nc-17 were they to be rated movies yes absolutely both on shutter if you want to watch it there yeah and i also saw uh indiana jones in the last crusade because i'm doing a podcast about the adventure game and i have only seen this one once on dvd like in 2007 so i haven't seen it in like 15 years. And I was like, oh, man, this movie is so good. And it's almost perfect except for that kind of cringy beginning. It's so good. And this is like the tackiest thing to say because everyone has said it.

But it's funny to think that Sean Connery is 59 in that movie. And Harrison Ford will be 80 in the new movie coming out next year. So fucking old. He's so fucking old. I think he's only like 12 years older than Harrison Ford. So the father-son thing doesn't really work if you think about it. Well, because he's younger than he's playing. Exactly, yeah. I guess that's technically what Indy is doing in the new movie. But yeah, it's like, I don't know.

But yeah, the opening, it's really just like isn't river phoenix awesome he's gonna be the star of the 90s guys like that's what what it was about i did it's like well that's the origin of that it's like i didn't need to know how he got harrison ford scar on his chin i assumed it was a carpentry accident well and you know it's the pilot for the young indiana jones chronicles that's what it's really about and that wasn't even successful. No, no. And then Henry and I in theaters. Oh, boy.

What a day. At the Castro Theater, they decided, let's show a movie. Why not? We're Castro Theater. Crazy. We don't really do that anymore since we have evil new owners. So Henry and I saw a double feature of Gremlins and Gremlins to the New Batch with Joe Dante. And also the writer of the New Batch was there for the second part of the uh yeah of the show uh yeah and these were uh preview cuts shown to audiences before the

final cut so there's different footage unfortunately i don't know these movies well enough to tell you what's different but it was a treat i can tell a couple of the biggies from from gremlins uh one which was uh the big one was and i never noticed it was like a hanging thread in the original version but like judge ryan holds a dick the whole movie right the whole start of the movie and he's like you should be brave like me i'm a badass like you need to be really go for it billy and then when all the shit goes down they go to the uh the vault at the bank you know which is where she tells her story about santa claus yeah and her father uh but they in the scene that's not in the theatrical release and i'd never seen before or heard about before though i'm also not like a gremlin scholar

was they open up the vault and they're like oh oh, hey, you're in here. He's like, yeah, everything went bad. And they also murdered the bank manager, which they don't. I think it was to keep the body count lower. Okay. Okay. And so Judge Reinhold's like, so I'm staying safe in here. You guys deal with it. And he's like this sad, pitiful guy.

And the other big change was the Wicked Witch character, the awful lady. Yeah. They give her a couple moments at home where she's sad about her dead husband right okay yeah i think dante mentioned that in like the post movie interview yeah he's like oh yeah she's too well because he's like oh that made her too sympathetic so we we want you to not feel too bad when she's dead those were the i think the two biggies he he pointed out afterwards because yeah there were honestly like yeah i didn't have as much knowledge of it either going like wait what's new in this but yeah i also feel i felt a little bad for joe dante that

the i felt that interviewer was a little too leading with him and saying like aren't these really political he's like yeah i guess yeah you know and then he's like you know guys joe dante is 76 he's like why do you think i'm gonna feel good about being 76 why tell and then after joe dante's gone the host is like guys joe dante's not gonna live forever it's like why be so fucking morbid we're here to have a nice time yeah yeah i'm sure he knows that too you know yeah no it was a weird note to uh to drop on us there i i thought that guy was too much uh also it's like well he is he is the the guy who made that his thing yeah yeah the movie yeah i'm sorry it's a midnight for maniacs now yeah well now it's called movies for maniacs

we're all getting too old they don't go after midnight anymore now i mean i think dante was a little like uh i got the sense dante didn't love him interviewing him but it was you know then an addendum to that was after we went to the castro that's when i became aware of the save the castro conservancy movement which just a quick lip service to that is that the castro theater which i love my husband bob loves to my husband proposed to me officially in front of that theater uh we saw many great movies there it got bought by a new company that's based out of Berkeley called Another Planet Entertainment, Ape, and who ran the event. And the host gave it so much lip service.

Like, it was like, let's thank Ape for our partners. But what I learned from Save Castro Conservancy, which is not the, it is a group of fans. They are going to change the inside of it and get rid of the theater seating. It will not be a sloped seat. It will not be a sloped thing down to it. It'll be a group of fans. They are going to change the inside of it and get rid of the theater seating. It will not be a sloped seat. It will not be a sloped thing down to it. It'll be a flattened thing. It also will be where they can move in seats but also move them out and have an open floor thing to do lots of events there. That is bullshit.

Yeah, I don't like that. The Castro needs to stay the same. The point of having the Castro, there are a million places in san francisco you can go to with an open dance floor like the castro is the castro and i learned about it because the owners of the castro are being very defensive about it like we need to modernize like it's not gonna be bad like people are being unfair yeah well i think the castro is even more special this is local news by the way yeah the castro is even more special because and i'm sure this could be happening in your neck of the woods listener uh all of our local theaters are closing there were

three in downtown berkeley now there's a hundred year old one gone yeah uh older than that yeah it's actually older the castro turned 100 that one was like 112 or something or 110 the california theater so yeah i mean it sucks and we're anti we're anti-ape here on the podcast yeah i know it's just like uh every but everything's getting more corporate it sucks yeah but about gremlins yes i'm not a gremlin super fan and i realize that's because the effects are fun and i love it and it's a fun ride but it's so bad at telling a story which is why the second movie is just a bunch of sketches yes the first movie i'm like wasn't there something in here about a land developer they completely lose that it's like what was going on and the movie made me really truly appreciate michael j fox if i'm watching it again because zach gallagher is a dead-eyed nobody zero

charisma that's why he didn't have much success after exactly hired because he's cute but it makes you realize like billy is as much of a character as marty he is he is like a nothing yeah and michael j fox's manic performance made marty mcfly into a fun character to watch yeah and to and to root for billy is a nobody yeah and i i can't stand billy which is why he's barely in the sequel and there's like will billy sell out oh no and i'm like i don't care he sucks yeah phoebe kate's axe rings around him yeah she's so funny in it too and yeah yeah, I forgot seeing it. I'd never seen Gremlins 2 since childhood in a theater. I had seen Gremlins 1 in the Castro before actually. But just when she, to see them back to back.

One, to see her big speech about Santa Claus. Yeah, yeah. And the reaction face on Gizmo of like, oh my God. The whole audience just explodes at that and then to see him back to back when she does the same speech about why she doesn't like lincoln's birthday they're like we don't have time for this so they just cut it off god so good gremlins do a lot of fun and we got to see the crappy uh not the full version thank god but the boy chuck jones shouldn't have been uh directing that thing.

It was a nice favor from Dante. I asked a nice question about his friendship with Chuck Jones, which Joe Dante was happy to answer. The first time I noticed Chuck Jones in the first movie at the bar. Yep. Yeah. He's complimenting Billy's work, which he's like, that's good drawing. And I should know. Thanks, Mr. Jones.

Oh, he calls him Mr. Jones? I think he doesones i think he does i think he does uh so yeah that was a lot of fun yeah uh and finally just a few days ago i finally got around to watching uh romey and michelle's high school reunion have never seen it and i've always wanted to see it because david merkin from the simpsons wrote and directed it sorry directed it but it is such his movie uh spoilers for me and michelle by the way skip forward a minute if you don't want to hear this what i love most about it has one of the best david murkin screw the audience jokes where they go to the reunion and 20 minutes of of

activity happens and you're like things are getting a bit heightened but maybe that's where this movie is going then it's revealed that uh lisa kudrow's character was asleep in the car and they had just shown up so david murkin waste your time david merkin waste your time for 20 minutes in that movie and no apologies and i was like this is the perfect david merkin joke to do this for a paying audience this is what his entire career was leading up to yeah it's uh man i haven't seen that in a few years in some years i i love that movie too and before i i knew david merkin as the simpsons man i i i just liked it because you know lisa kudrow i love her and stuff like but yeah i i gotta watch that again soon i'm glad you finally seen it it wasn't like fall down on the floor funny but it was a very sweet yeah and i like the characters and they're not as dumb as

you might think they are going to the movie and Kudrow had been playing that character for years and years. Like it's her bringing a character she like invented to the big screen. I think it was a play in like 1988. Yeah, yeah. It's a Groundlings thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was a bunch of movies I saw this month. And also we went to some live shows.

Henry, you can talk more about that when we get to what he's been up to. I went to Minneapolis for a week. I love Minneapolis love Minneapolis have not been there in three years because of COVID ostensibly I was there for SGDQ although I was only there for one day on the premises it was really an excuse to eat and drink in Minneapolis with friends and it was great and that was the first like actual real trip to a non-location where my wife lives in a long time. That's nice. Because all of our trips would be me flying to her or her flying to me because travel elsewhere, forbidden. Yes.

So it was nice to go somewhere else. Must be. Although I love Vancouver, but it was like a Midwestern summer. I haven't felt this in years. It was great. It was great. That's awesome, man. Yeah. midwestern summer i haven't felt this in years and it was great it was great oh that's awesome man yeah uh so uh as for my month uh with games played a bit more of ff14 because they had like

a free week or thing at the end of june uh which had a good time with that i played a lot of tmnt shredder's revenge i've nearly beaten me and my husband playing together i'm uh leo he's donnie that's uh normally who we're playing as though we haven't unlocked uh casey jones yet i kind of want to play as him a bit in april it'd be fun to play as april but since you level up and stuff in it i kind of just want to stick with leo but yeah it's gorgeous oh my god it's so beautiful like games need to look like this more often it's i'm waiting for a sale but i do want to play through it so you don't have game pass that's how i've been playing i don't have game pass because uh the amount of games i own is anxiety inducing i get it i get it yeah well and uh speaking of uh free games

included with subscriptions i've also been playing stray on the ps5 uh it's a lot of fun it's just a nice uh puzzle platformer with a cool gimmick to it that you are just like a cute kitty cat. I have seen some people complaining that it has a bit of techno-orientalism, which it is. French developers, they sometimes can fall into that. I don't think it's not wrong, but I will reserve judgment until I finish the game. And then i went to me and bob both play pickman bloom all the time i went to we were lucky there were three cities in the u.s one in texas one in new york and then oakland california take that flyover states it had

pickman bloom community day where if you go to the jack london this is over now if you go to the Jack London, this is over now, if you went to Jack London Square in Oakland by the docks, you could prove to them, like, here, I've taken 5,000 steps today, and I've taken far more than that. And they're like, all right, here's your free T-shirt. They got me a free T-shirt and a Pikmin hat, like a little paper hat. But the T-shirt is an actual, like, good T-shirt. It's one of the t-shirts you can wear in games so it's i did see it it's a nice it's a nice fit so it was and it was cool to be at

pikmin bloom community day it was also like a pokemon community day and it was basically like there were 12 pokemon fans for every one pikmin fan there but we were important we matter you know we were i think the pikmin fans were about five to ten years older than the Pokemon fans there. But it was a good time. Well, the last new game was like nine years ago. Yes, yeah. If you don't count the Switch we released. And that one was after like 12 years with no new, or ten years.

Another nine years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, yeah. 2004 and then 2013, I think. And in 2032, I look forward to another one uh but so yes as for watching i saw many of the same things bob did but what other than that i saw i watched all that new stranger things season i think it was the best season yet how much stranger things are there because i think every month for the past three months this has been a an item well basically in may they released a uh most of the new season but not the last two

episodes and then over july fourth weekend they released the last two episodes of the season and it was really good there are too many characters and it's too long but i really liked it and they are also as the algorithm told them to they're upping the gay quotient in it too which is positive for me yeah no it's it's a good show it's fun sometimes it's fun to watch the zeitgeisty thing and this uh i've seen crappier seasons in stranger things this one was really good is that why you watch the next thing yes i mean i watch the next episode of marvel the tv show in theaters or love and thunder so a comic-con just happened as a marvel fan when you see that giant wall of logos do you just want to like throw up you know it's starting to feel like too much even for me like this is your assignment it is i mean look i i've said it before but this is exactly what i

wanted like this is a wish come true with ironic genie the monkey paw curled a finger in it is i read every marvel comic all the time and i thought i want an interconnected it wouldn't be great if there were an interconnected universe like that obviously that will never happen because if they have a spider-man movie it's just spider-man he's not going to meet other characters now every movie has every character in it from everything and everything's a crossover so much so to the fact that their new thing they reveal at the comic-con is it's the multiverse saga and i fully expect the film that caps it off avengers secret war secret wars which the comic that is based on is about multiple universes intersecting i think they're gonna when they get to the firework factory that

it will have every actor who's been in any marvel movie ever all together at once everybody that they can get i think well all film separately yes oh well then composite it together yeah but but yeah thor love and thunder as a film by itself uh it's it's all right it's all right not half as good as ragnarok ragnarok and i mean certainly i was feeling the covid blues of it like boy this just looks kind of crappy in pop arts like everything's just very disconnected and the special effects don't look particularly good enough i just uh taika wait wait tt uh don't waste your time on this dude do your own thing yeah i like his other stuff but uh including what we do in shadow what we do in the shadows the new season

which i've been watching this month really really great but yeah thor love and thunder man but i'm looking for it i know bob i'm just watching all my assignments i watched all this marvel this month too and it was all right it was good it's good it's good uh they don't make her half as muslim as i want her to be though like they i mean she's not like she's not a Muslim in it but she in the first comics they worked hard to have her like quote the Quran and actually have it like at least to my outsider's ears it sounded like boy that sounds like a deep cut for the Quran I don't know but but at least she is like one of Muhammad's b-sides but but she is a practicing Muslim in the in the show but uh but the next month uh in august that's the one i've been

waiting forever for she hulk i love she hulk she's one of my favorite characters i've been reading she all comics since i was like fucking eight i love she hulk i've been waiting for this designed to make uh men horny though oh yeah she's look yeah but but hey there's a lot of elvira style sex symbol ladies that also have gay followings. Straight guys like her for horny reasons, and then gay guys like her for... There was a really good Pride comic Marvel put out this last month full of short story collections of classic Marvel characters and some newer ones, too.

And they introduced a trans character who loves She-Hulk, and she grew up dreaming of being a woman in part because She-Hulk inspired her with her version of femininity. It was a really good story. But anyway, yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. Also, Tatiana Maslany, she's a good actress. But okay, enough Marvel talk. Yes, that roadmap does seem like a whole lot of work.

There's too many movies in one year. That's really the problem. These phases used to last four years. The phase is now 18 months, I think, of movies. And now Star Wars is a TV show, right? Yeah, no Star Wars movies getting announced anytime soon. They're all TV shows. That kind of surprised me, but i guess it shouldn't uh other stuff i watched uh this month was uh that

new nathan fielder show the rehearsal it's great it is great if you want the peak of cringe reality show comedy stuff like it is it it is it is uh like a wonder to behold i i don't want to even spoil it it's just amazing. If you got HBO Max, watch it. I've been watching that Bird Girl show. It's all right. It's good. It's growing on me.

It is just like a BoJack workplace comedy kind of thing, though. It gets in that zone. Is it in the Harvey Birdman universe? Yes, but they're not allowed to have any H&B characters. It's all originals. You know, I never went back to see that Harvey Birdman movie they made or that special they made. I heard it was less good. And now if you watch it, it's all about the Trump era, which it'll seem dated as fuck.

Yeah. But the Bird Girl show, it's Bird Girl, Mentok's daughter, and then just original characters everywhere else. Like, yeah. But it's good. And Padgett Brewster rules. I i love her i've always loved her uh i watched all the new season of the iron chef on netflix and then watching old iron chef on peacock great time and i see it is uh preparing me for the eventual uh 30 33 iron chef uh futurama will be doing soon that's the season three closer that's i think in uh september or october it's october yeah uh then uh also i uh watched some of the new 4k version of panda go

panda the which the g kids put out they're putting out new versions all the uh miyazaki stuff uh and the last thing i want to talk about other than the live show we both went to was i went to hadestown i had not seen hadestown before didn't know any of the songs from it it was really really really really good i saw the the traveling group in san francisco it's like you know a jazzy rock uh musical like hate is down this is reminding me of the uh musical they did in home movies bye-bye greasy yeah but no no it's uh if i described it it would sound kind of lame but i promise you i swear i didn't think it was lame but but it was. Guess what, Bob? It's the future. It's climate problems have caused people to go underground.

The haves and the have-nots. It's a class struggle, but also it's a retelling of the story of Hades and Eurydice. Eurydice? I think Eurydice. Yeah, but there's some really great songs, especially Wait For Me is my favorite song. But anywho, that was great to see live at the Orpheheum and then me and you saw quite a fun live thing too yeah we saw tim heidecker on his new tour where he's doing some of his uh you know fun stand-up comedy character and also his sincere and also funny songs uh and it was a great show i'm not very

familiar with his musical output but I enjoyed what I heard and he played a very very funny song from Bob Dylan that Bob Dylan I'm sure thought was a very good song so he's probably doing it on his tour but he plays the song Lenny and it's real it's a real song and he stops to

comment on the lyrics as he plays it because I'm like wow I had to look it up on YouTube when I got home this can't because he he prefaces with i know you guys are gonna think i'm faking this because i do this a lot i'm tim heidecker i know but seriously look it up for yourself it's from these bad forgotten bob dill stuff yeah i i loved his new songs like and that he ended with my favorite of his real songs work from home like i love that song and he uh and also i didn't know vick burger was such a great musician he was great i thought he was just the the meme video guy he's multi-talented he was doing keyboards yeah

that night it was so good and yeah his stand-up was the funny thing too with his um anti-woke comedy stand-up character uh is that to do the character correctly he has to scream but then when he comes out back as himself he's like the horse voice little horse you know i gotta scream is that guy and we were like the second show of his tour in san francisco so i hope he's he's hanging in there seems like a lot a lot of energy you got to expel immediately on that show. I get tired from doing a one-hour live show where I sit and talk. Yeah.

Though, you know what? Tim Heidecker, he's in good shape. Yeah, yeah. He's in great looking shape. And also, I got to give it to him too that he had a hole at his merch stand. One, they're like, okay, you're buying our $40 t-shirt. Do you also want to give some money to an abortion fund? It's like, oh, yeah. I'm being very selfish buying this $40 t-shirt. Yes also want to give some money to an abortion fund it's like oh yeah i i'm being very selfish buying this 40 t-shirt yes i give 10 bucks that's a great place to ask for more money

and there's also a dsa sign up table there too so tim's a good dude yes that was a great a fun night of comedy i've always loved tim heidecker yeah we had a nice time though though you mentioned there were i didn't notice the people sitting next to you were not there for the music no i i don't know why they were there it was like three uh tech bros uh i assume they were tech bros i guess what status thing perhaps yeah or it's like they they knew about like awesome show or whatever but i just remember um the one of the guys telling the other guys like oh man you gotta come to my bachelor party it's gonna be a complete banger and i'm like what are these guys doing at a tim heidecker show and it seems like they didn't enjoy And one of the guys telling the other guys, like, oh, man, you got to come to my bachelor party. It's going to be a complete banger. And I'm like, what are these guys doing at a Tim Heidecker show?

And it seems like they didn't enjoy anything. When everyone stood up for parts of the show, they sat down and just talked amongst themselves. I'm like, why did they stay? Why did they stay? Get out of here. Yeah, man. But it was also fun. Like, I actually had been to the Palace of Fine Arts before, but I didn didn't realize that i had forgotten because i didn't explore the pretty parts of it uh but the palace of fine arts or

place of fine arts as tim kept calling it uh we've seen it in a lot of movies yes yeah it was uh for instance if you've seen the rock uh that's where after the big car chase in the start of the movie uh that's where sean connery and and Nicholas Cage kind of talk to each other. Yeah. So people are always doing photo shoots there because it's very pretty. Yeah. We, we walked by multiple photo shoots for like,

I would, I think they were for, uh, for weddings. I think it seemed like it. Yeah. Let's move on to comments for talking Simpsons. The first episode tree house of horror too.

And Joe Hodgson says candy necklaces are a thing that still exists despite being pretty terrible candy i can't recall seeing any in my kids halloween hauls but they definitely show up at birthday parties there are also bracelet varieties candy cigarettes still exist too as do bubblegum cigars i had to get my kids passports last year and was slightly taken aback when the postal employee taking care of us offered my kids a bubble gum cigar it just struck me as an oddly specific thing to decide to have on hand to gift to kids who are getting their first passport that is crazy i feel like you have to special order bubble gum cigars like you can't buy them at like a sam's club or whatever the safe way i feel like only one probably only one

company makes them now yeah and probably they somebody who does it out of political intent of like the woke scolds don't want us to give kids bubblegum cigars anymore but i'll be damned if i'm gonna give into them i assume that like there was a tradition of when because i saw it in old cartoons of course like when your wife has a baby you pass out cigars yeah yeah or maybe other good events in your life happen i i bought candy cigarettes as a kid but they weren't good candy they suck and i bought them again in college because i was like oh candy cigarettes that's fun and i was like this is just like eating chalk yeah the uh you know the uh the detail that the uh the candy

bracelets and necklaces are at kids birthday parties that really struck a chord with me it was like oh yeah your gift bag or the you know the birthday bags you hand out to all the kids at a big birthday party. With the cheap rotten candy. I mean, it doesn't seem to get much cheaper than that terrible candy. Man, remember that great birthday boy show we went to where one of their bits was just throwing shitty grandma candy into the audience? It was like, here's some Necco wafers and just tossed them in there. I didn't get any crappy candy.

Not one bit of honey for me. James Babbo also said about that episode, every time I've watched that third segment, I was reminded of the 1958 Hammer film, The Revenge of Frankenstein. When Burns tells Smithers he's going to die and he tells him what to do, it's exactly the end of the film where Frankenstein,

where Dr. Frankenstein, played by peter cushing is dying and tells his assistant you know what to do the flunky then puts the doctor's brain into a new body that coincidentally looks exactly like his old body considering this is a kind of frankenstein parody it cannot be coincidence that the endings are similar and i'm sure the writer's room were hammer fans it's possible i agree i think that's possible i mean they would have said it on the commentary i feel like i i think so uh the john swartzwater write that one that that uh sketch i forget i think it was vd okay it was but i mean because the the writer i mean this is easily looked at you might be right swartzwelder but

the i mean the only credit i remember them doling out was that on the commentary that it was Jake Hogan who did the Davy Crockett. Oh, yeah, Davy Crockett. Yes, I mean, you know what to do is a pretty bland generic line, but it could also come from the movie. Somebody could have been a stinker and snuck that in as like a reference i mean these hardcore uh if you were a nerd of of that age in the early 90s you probably did growing up did watch a lot of those hammer horror films growing up yeah i mean that's why peter cushing's in star wars because it was a hammer films nerd uh george lucas casting the movie and also being filmed in england yeah also that makes it easier yeah that's true let's move on to sweets and sour marge so boyd atkins the fourth says libby is correct and they did change the recipe to butterfinger when nestle sold the candy bar to ferraro in 2018 as a person

whose favorite candy bar was butterfinger i can tell you the new recipe is so different that they could have changed the name and made it completely separate if you're curious and want to know if it'll take you back to your childhood the answer is no it's a stark reminder that everything Damn, man, boy, you know what? They shouldn't be bringing back the old slogan then in that Butterfinger Cops commercial stuff. Because it's so different now. The thing is, after doing this podcast and reading this comment i was like i want to find a butterfinger but in this area no matter where i go nobody has a butterfinger wow all the fingers have been laid on the butterfingers and you know what i'm filing that into the better off that didn't happen department because i have not had a candy

bar in over a decade i don't want to start eating candy bars in my 40s it seems a little late for that yeah boy not even like uh just a miniature from the free bowl somewhere maybe like a fun size but i have not like purchased a candy bar at a at a store oh man we we live different lives no i know i haven't bought you know i haven't bought a full-size candy bar in a while i bought i i've purchased sweets don't get me wrong but uh yeah just like what oh a twix i'll get that in the uh at checkout like no i i don't do that yeah the sweets i do purchase now are are high quality i buy c's chocolates at the airport oh sure yeah if you want a 60 box of chocolates they've got they've got them uh you know twix my number one candy bar that's uh butterfingers slow but far to the bottom it's crazy nestle can just sell off one candy bar they're like not the whole

business just just butterfinger yes we don't want it anymore it's got the simpsons stink on it you know what when i go to target and other stores i see what looks like a butterfinger but it's some reese's thing oh it's some reese's product yeah it's like Reese's yeah they Reese's peanut butter cups now are just like oh it's also just like a Reese's bar like the Reese's like yeah they've Reese's can be anything it's it's really uh expanded I have not bought a candy bar in over a decade but occasionally I will buy a little bag of the uh dark thin Reese cups and I'll put them in the freezer uh That's good. It's good to have like one with coffee.

I prefer those thin ones to the like the bell shaped ones because I prefer the spread out peanut butter than it's all just in one like hunk. Ron Sterling says about that episode my wife's grandmother was at the time

of her graduation the tallest woman to ever matric wife's grandmother was at the time of her graduation the tallest woman to ever matriculate her high school at the statuesque 5'9". The tallest man? It was indeed Robert Wadlow, who graduated two years earlier in 1936 from their tiny school near St. Louis, Missouri. She described the sound of his footsteps

as seeming like thunderclaps. She died two years ago at the age of 100 sadly robert would only survive to 22 i don't know if she still holds a record for the tallest woman at alton high but i was always more of an uncle john's bathroom reader than a guinness world records guy yep it's always gonna be wadlow you can't beat that guy no i mean in pot i uh i suppose if somebody wanted to to uh experiment with enough growth hormones, but I feel like then Guinness wouldn't honor that. No, no. He was cheating. He was a pure, pure blood freak.

Though I guess, you know, certainly there's been taller people than 5'9". I would think just in St. Louis, taller women than 5'9". Like with all the shit and food today, people are growing taller. It's true. Actually, when I was in Japan, I was surprised that people aren't as short as I was told they would be. There's some short people. I think it's because of the addition to milk to diets in Japan. One of my favorite videos of our pal Steve Yurko was when he was last in japan

and he's like you know six six he's a tall guy yeah uh just him walking down the street in japan and like people just stop him like hey oh my god look at you and like i think a group of uh drunk businessmen uh who seemed younger than him were like we want to lift you up like it's you know at a high school pep rally or whatever and just throw them in the air because they were so impressed at his height yeah i i was usually the tallest person on a train unfortunately my wife does fit the stereotype she's very small i was i was you i was often the taller a taller person on the train too when i've been there i'll i'll scope out my height comparatively the next time i'm there which hopefully you know eventually it'll happen i need to take my honeymoon there one of these days uh let's move on to lisa's

pony uh joe hodgson says this is an episode that if i watch it with my kids makes me look like a bad dad because when homer shamefully realizes he doesn't have a picture of lisa in his wallet my kids ask why i don't have pictures of them in my wallet the answer is obvious because my cell phone is loaded with them, but it reminds me that the wallet photo is kind of dead at this point, and yet you still get a bunch if you order school pictures that just accumulate in a drawer somewhere. That's wasteful.

And I think the wallet photo is now your lock screen. Yeah. That's why my wife is on my lock screen. Man, you're making me look bad that my husband is in my lock screen. What do you have, Spider-Man? It is Spider-Man. Oh my gosh, Henry, come on. Well, you've seen it, but I figured you just knew that from the...

I know it was Spider-Man. It's Spidey with his cup of coffee from Spider-Verse. Let's just marry Spider-Man. No, no, I love my husband. Even if Spider-Man was real, I wouldn't... He can be your wallpaper. Let's have a compromise. Your husband can be your wallpaper, and Spider-Man can be your lock screen your lock screen yeah no it's the same spider-man picture as wall screen

and lock paper but it's the it's a reverse version of it it's him upside down but look I have photos I got multiple photos of him behind you on the wall uh on the shelf there behind you Bob we have photos I'm just saying I don't feel bad it's but i think that is the the wallet picture is now your lock screen and then also the thousands of photos you have on your phone yeah yeah i mean too it's like uh if you're a dad it's uh you have to have that thing on the back of your van of like the stick figure favorite every member of it you know that that's the wallet photo i like the one that's two uh adult stick figures and a pile of money. Oh, I've not seen that one. It's part of the child-free lifestyle.

Also on Lisa's Pony, Patrick Howell says, as not only a band director, but also someone who plays a reeded instrument, the clarinet, the fact that Lisa is eight and plays with a Barry sax with a size four and a half reed has to be a joke. The thickest size I've played on is a four and most days even that is like trying to make sound on a block of wood so a four and a half reed i didn't realize how uh how thick a four is and then four and a half for an eight-year-old girl to

use for a giant saxophone yeah it's pretty funny yeah i think like uh mike reese or aljean one of their brothers played the sax but i guess he played yeah a different kind of sax than what lisa has yeah it's funny to hear uh i i wonder if they're closer or not now but he uh he joked about how like oh yeah my brother's i think he oh yeah he when he talks about the cape fear soundtrack and he says like oh yeah listen to the uh the violins there oh i guess it's brass i should know that my brother all right is a musician i was like oh yeah this guy i hope him and his brother have reconnected more but uh i appreciate having a real band director and uh reeded instrument player patrick way in there we'll send our complaints to algae to my crease uh

jaws wire shutters up next and sean riley says great episode dudes with regards to modern movie trailer parody discussion i think that the spooky version of an old rock song would be done in an updated 2022 joke they even did it for the recent season of stranger things with the separate ways by journey yes and i feel bad that i didn't think of that like what is what do they do with songs and trailers now they do this to the point where I've been in theaters. When it happens, people laugh. Yeah, yeah. They're like, oh, come on. Or the people just scoff. Like, this does not work anymore.

You know, with Stranger Things, I'll give them credit, too, because it was a remix of the Journey song. They didn't get a cover of it. They'd be like, the real Journey song. Someday love will find you. Boom, boom, boom. And then, you know, some dramatic music would cut in and then it was like they had the acapella version of it and then they cut in their own music to it and and it also is not i'm not gonna there's not a super spoiler for stranger things finale but

it did the anime thing of they're playing the trailer song separate ways is coming now in the actual episode this is serious oh that is an anime thing yes yeah uh and you know in that very good trailer for uh wakanda forever the next black panther movie it also does this it's the no woman no cry it's a cover of it uh you think that's uh i don't know people are allowed to feel ways about this thing but it feels like this isn't like a little disrespectful to chadwick boseman if it's just like he's actually dead give us your money yeah well i mean i know they're also paying tribute to a great man who lost very early but also feels like a corporation is puppeting his corpse around a little bit it's really complicated yeah i mean yeah it's very it's very tricky i'm not trying to be disrespectful myself i just i felt a little icky about it the cast and creators of it seem

very invested in it wanting it to be a tribute to chadwick and it would certainly his estate what you would think wouldn't want to be involved in it if they or would have prevented it yeah i mean yeah it's it all sounds very complicated but also also, yes, it is. I do feel like Marvel is trying to present it to you just like, no, this isn't disrespectful. See how respectful everybody else is here? Anyway, you know, you'd be really insulting Chadwick if you didn't show up to the movie. If you didn't show up in theaters. Chadwick wants you to buy that steel box. No, it's very, I mean, it's also super sad because like Black Panther really was this huge thing.

It made a trillion dollars without being a giant crossover because there had never really been a black superhero film to that size in America that was presented that way. And, you know, for a whole generation, like this was their superhero. And then he's taken away by fate. He's taken away from you right when you meet him. And some fans have said they should recast. Some said they shouldn't. But it's now just so depressing. And I guess the point of the movie will be to get over that depression

and there's going to be a new Black Panther. But some fans have said they should recast because it's like t'challa is bigger than this guy or bigger than even chadwick poseman and that they shouldn't take away t'challa from fans just because the actor died they've recast other people in roles but yeah it seems like they're not doing that yeah yeah it's a very tricky situation yeah but hey i'm also excited that Namor's in it, man. I love Namor. He's so great.

He's Imperius Rex, the ridiculous... Is Namor some kind of sea man? Yeah, he's the Sub-Mariner, Bob. Okay, sorry. And he predates Aquaman, even though Aquaman's more famous. He's the Sub-Mariner. He's got wings on his feet. He can fly.

And also, they have now he'd always been drawn as a white man uh up to this point but uh the actor playing him i believe is mexican uh and they are changing things up a bit with the people of atlantis which is totally fine by yeah yeah go for it so uh it but yeah that movie has to it has to make a new black panther be a tribute to chadwick boseman and introduce all of Atlantis and Namor. And probably there's some multiverse bullshit in there. It's going to be three and a half hours long. Yeah. Okay.

November. Can't wait for it. I believe in Ryan Coogler. I think he's great. Sorry. All this Marvel talk. Also on that episode, Harry Thornton says soccer mummy being Mummy being both an adult gross-out comedy and a kid's film didn't seem that weird to me because,

and I say this as someone who grew up watching them, there was this weird streak in the early aughts of just having very mature parental bonus jokes in family films. You guys already talked about Shrek on another podcast, but another great example is the 2002 Scooby-Doo movie. One James Gunn wrote, it was going to be either PG-13 or R, but Warner Brothers got cold feet

and re-edited it to be more family friendly. Despite that, it's still filled to the brim with sex and drug references. And they even have a digitally, they even had to digitally remove cleavage from some of the female characters. Yes, yeah. I think James Gunn wanted to go much dirtier in his version of

scooby-doo and they were going to be like post-modern and meta and like this is for the american pie generation but as it got closer to release they're like we don't want to be that dirty and now there's going to be a new velma show it's a little like tits and blood and shit in it man this is why elder millennials uh are more loose and free. The true millennials, they had the cleavage erased. Yeah, yeah. They didn't get the sea breasts. You know, also Soccer Mummy, in his reference to that, it also reminded me of, and I know this not because I watched it,

but because I cleaned the theaters of it at AMC Theaters, Kangaroo Jack, because that was a raunchy sex adventure comedy full of, like, dirty jokes jokes but they then have like one fantasy sequence where the kangaroo who is not anthropomorphic for the whole movie he has a dream sequence jerry o'connell's character gets knocked out as a dream sequence right where he raps and dances and once they got that footage they're like we're marketing this to kids but it's like no this is a fucking boner PG-13 comedy. Like, yeah. I'd rather see Cherokee Jack.

I'm Cherokee Jack. But yes, the dirty family friendly. Now it just seems very sectioned off of like, you get your R-rated Batmans or like, yeah, there's the R-rated Harley Quinn cartoon at the same time as they're making that Batwheels show that is just like Pixar's Cars for Batman. Jesus. Yep. Yeah. They're doing it all.els show that is just like Pixar's Cars for Batman. Jesus. Yep. Yeah.

They're doing it all. Please stop. Let's move on to what a cartoon comments. Little Mermaid's up first. And Drew Mackey, friend of the show, says the fear of liking a girls movie was real. I like this movie in private and got picked on in my own home for wanting the VHS. But unlike Gem, which I secretly wanted to watch watch even though it was pretty clearly written for girls this was the first instance i can remember of understanding that female protagonist does not equal things for girls explicitly not that it was an argument i was

brave enough to make on the playground yes drew feels my pain yeah see i mean oh also i've i i know uh drew mentioned this to me before too that like he had a similar thing with wrestling that like he was scared to want to watch wrestling because you were accused of being gay if you wanted to watch that too that's uh yeah i uh you know i guess i feel lucky my mom did not um i put that on my brother and i i mean this is not put me on me by my mom by the way this is everybody around me except for my parents i didn't notice it with the other people around me too i mean i did later my dad didn't like that i watched ronma one half that it was full of like girls and flowers and stuff hey it's full of girls i know well and not in a not in a objectifying enough way for well

when he walked by seeing the opening if i could have showed him like no look they're objectifying these women there's boobs there you know look at all these bath scenes yeah but uh you know by the way drew mackie just put out a really cool video folks should check out on the history of blanca and why blanca is the character in street fighter's name even though he is green and that's right like verde so i did not know that uh he really dug deep in some history stuff and i believe paid a translator multiple translators to translate japanese only interviews and he dug really deep in it watch watch his video on youtube uh go to his feed and you'll find it there too and he it's part of a series of uh written blog posts he's done on some

very deep dives into video game history those are really good yeah i'm happy i'm always happy to see new blog material yeah no one's blogging anymore uh also on little mermaid matt says christopher daniel barnes was also greg brady in the 90s brady bunch movies he's way more hilarious and entertaining in that role than is eric and yeah he i didn't know that yes yeah he's he's the eldest brady boy in it yeah i i forget that too he's uh it's uh you know talk about that brady bunch movie that's another one of those you know, talk about that Brady Bunch movie. That's another one of those, like the Scooby-Doo movie would have been. Like, it has some dirtier jokes in that Brady Bunch movie.

But still PG-13. Yes, yeah. He's got the lesbian, there's the closet lesbian girl who's into Marsha. There's also, like, the joke of the horny next-door neighbor who keeps hitting on Mr. Brady. And Sam the Butcher talking about his meat. Yes, yeah, yeah. There's some dirty stuff in there, man. Worth revisiting.

And Christopher Daniel Barnes, though, I'll always remember him as the best Spider-Man voice. Or one of the best Spider-Man voice actors. He surely really talked fast in those episodes. Yes, yeah. Let's move on to Talking Futurama. Roswell the Denswell is up first. really talked fast in those episodes yes yeah let's move on to talking futurama roswell that ends well is up first and some bloke says i have to respectfully disagree with henry's new timeline theory in the day the earth stood stupid from slightly earlier in the same production season

probably because they knew this was coming it was established that fry singularly lacks a delta brain wave which is later established as being the product of his temporal paradox descent this suggests the closed timeline in which fry was always going to become his own grandfather, which he already was. This is also consistent with later time travel episodes that also feature closed loops. And of course, in one later episode, we find out the entire universe resets, meaning time itself is one big loop. I think the writers favored this version of time travel because it's screwier to get your head around initially,

but has certain mathematical logic to it similar to cyclic structures. Cyclic structures? I guess cyclic. Cyclic structures. Thank you. Thank you, Sunbloke. Yeah, thank you, Sunbloke. You know what? I can't disagree with that.

I still like to think about it creating new timelines, but you're right with the later the delta brainwave thing predates this episode and certainly implies they already knew the timeline stuff and nibbler and his relationship to fry uh but also uh you know it fits with later time travel episodes including my favorite comedy central era episode the late mr philip j fry which shows that time is just a repeating loop and that you can just basically go around to the bend again and get like, OK, no, we're back here. It's the same. I think they do a lot of laps in that episode. It's really good. It's an Emmy winner.

Meaning that they can't, you know, that then time traveling doesn't change it. So, yeah, I agree with you, Sunbloke. I agree with your endorsement there uh andrew bouvier also said about the episode i can't be 100 sure but i think enos's order of a pie with a fried egg on it is a slight reference to how in northern new england especially vermont it's actually tradition to serve warm apple pie with a slice of cheddar cheese on it. There's even some silly superfluous state laws about it. And then he has links to the laws on it. I looked up this state of Vermont apple pie law.

The state pie shall be an apple pie. So number one. Yes. Section two, serving apple pie. When serving apple pie in Vermont, a good faith effort shall be made to meet one or more of the following conditions. A, with a glass of cold milk. B, with a slice of cheddar cheese weighing a minimum of one half

ounce. Or C, with a large scoop of vanilla ice cream. You must make a good faith effort to provide one of those items with the pie. This was approved on May 10th, 1999. Man, you know what? Bernie Sanders has some blame on that.

Where was he? Just a fat cat up in the Senate, I guess. In one of his many houses. You know, if that's the law, then I guess I'll just have to go with the ice cream scoop thing. Even though I prefer an unadorned apple pie slice. When I've had Alamo, look look i'm not saying it's bad but there's something to the speed at which you must eat it because the hot apple pie meets the cold

scoop of ice cream that's good for like three bites but eventually they just meet in the middle as like the same temperature and goopy i like ice cream next to the pie oh sure sure yeah it's better that way well i guess also it's up up to the apple pie to have the correct structural density to hold up that scoop. It's all very complicated. Yeah, but I mean, I love apple pie, but I've never had it with a slice of cheese on top. Sounds wrong to me. I don't know. I was thinking about it.

You know, pastries do have cheese in and on them. It's not that crazy. But apple with cheese, man, I i try and remember if i've had much of that i've had i've had like if you're if you're making like a charcuterie board uh you can have like a cracker with like a slice of apple and a slice of cheese on it pop it in your mouth i keep that separate on the it's either the cheese on it or the apple on it mix them up put a little hot mustard on there buddy well now i want to try a fried egg on it you know i don't want to try that moving on to anthology of interest too because we forgot

or i forgot to include comments on this one last time so i apologize for that uh shy ranger says been waiting for this episode so i could tell a fun story when i played the game super scribble knots for the ds for those who don't know it's a game where you type nouns to make any object appear one of the game's puzzles involved being the wizard and helping scarecrow tin man and lion for the lion you were asked to give him something to make him have courage and i jokingly remembered who needs courage when you have a gun and i gave him a gun and it worked wow oh that's so cool those games were so neat and i think we just forgot about them yeah they made too many of them too yes i mean warner dumped him out really fast but yeah they were always a fun they were at least fun

for a few hours and i think my favorite as a dorko was that they did a dc one that included like you could put in pretty much any up to that point existing obscure dc character or item and they would appear and it would solve dc related problems too yeah they did everything with that license but that's so funny that a gun like yep gun gave him courage like they i i mean how do they make it all work it's like amazing that that all that stuff works i wouldn't be surprised if some nerd made that like into the game like made that reference like let's make sure this works i i would not be shocked yeah uh also on anth Anthology of Interest, Kaiserbeam says, and by the way, Kaiserbeam also did another great YouTube video I want to point people to. I just watched Kaiserbeam's Kyoto video for Arcadia of My Youth, the Captain Harlock movie. Really good video and tribute to a great, great film.

Yes, I love Kaiserbeam's videos on YouTube. Most of the things I haven't seen. Yeah, no, it's like half and half of stuff on youtube uh most things i haven't seen yeah no it's like half and half of stuff i've seen stuff i haven't yeah but the kaiser beam says when i was a teenage nerd when given the choice between weezer and rush i would rush all the way not just because i was also a huge music nerd who dug the shit out of neil pertz complex drum solos alec leafson's catchy riffs and getty lee's sick bait slick bass licks i also played bass at the time but also because at the time weezer was in their beverly hills era

and having that stupid song play every hour on the radio soured me on them for a while and while i can appreciate weezer now the best song on Pinkerton doesn't hold a candle to the entirety of Signal's My Favorite Rush album. I'll take your word for it. Yeah. Boy, bringing up Beverly Hills, we talked a lot with Matt Apodaca on our Simpsons podcast. Yeah, it became a Weezer podcast for about 15 minutes. And then he had to go, so we wasted a lot of his time. But Beverly Hills, I can't believe that rancid song became a hit.

Yeah, big hit. And it feels like you wrote a bad pop song on purpose to make it successful. Yeah, and then it worked. Yeah, bad influence. The success of that song was a bad influence on Weezer. But I also can see that neither of us are musicians. If you love the complexity of a Rush song, I mean, Weezer songs are not as complexly written,

I would bet, comparatively. No, they're just all short pop songs. Yeah, with power chords and all that stuff. And then especially after Matt Sharp left the band, it's not half as complex as that. We all know how it goes. 1997 was a bad time for Weezer. Check out Kaiser Beam's great videos on YouTube,

as always, guys. Yes, please do. And then wrapping things up, Talking of the Hill, up first is the final Shinsalt and joe hodgson is back and he says my dmv or rmv in the state i live has basically been the opposite of what you guys have experienced growing up in new hampshire getting my first license sucked and took forever worst of all my dad thought we could just skate through without having my birth certificate, so we had to do it twice. Oof.

Yes. Whereas, when I moved to Boston later in life and had to get a Massachusetts ID, the process was pretty quick because they were prepared for a lot of people. It was like the deli counter at a supermarket. You just take a number and have a seat. I just had to get my license renewed in person this year in my new suburban town, and it was okay, better than four years ago or whatever it was when I last did it. I was probably in and out within half an hour, and now I don't have to do it again for nearly a decade, so my next one can be done online.

Oh, man, do it online. That's nice. Yes, you can, in California, you can renew online. Okay. You don't have to go in anymore. Oh, see, the last time I was in there was to get the real ID version of it. Yes, you had to go in there to prove you're not a terrorist. So hopefully next time I can still prove you're not A terrorist so hopefully next time

I can still prove I'm not a terrorist While getting it renewed online I Just I hate for all the things That prove your identity I hate that you also have to have your Birth certificate sometimes because We lost my original one And I have one that I got like Officially official copy of it

Notarized in the year 2000 so it's already A 22 year old photocopy that I have to hold on to. And then some people raise an eyebrow like, I don't have a 22-year-old piece of paper. I don't have a 40-year-old piece of paper, okay? They think you're trying to do the Polly Old Rusty Shackleford. Exactly. It's like, here's my passport. Here's my

Nexus card. Here's my ID. It's like, oh, you need a birth certificate. It's like, you think all three of these things were faked? If that's so, then I think they should still just let you through because you successfully faked those three major things i blame joe brandon and his patriot act yeah that's true it's uh it's making all our lives so much more painful every day every day yeah it's like i i'm stealing this from a tweet i saw but it was like uh we're all afraid of being shot all the time not of shoe bombs like let us keep our fucking shoes on in the airport now you know i i don't care about

a shoe bomb yes i'm gonna be uh everybody in america is terrified about the sound of a gunshot they're not afraid of shoe bombs all right and finally from uh our last comment is from leanne's saga episode of king of the hill because we did two this month uh catching up icy wiener says one joke that i love from the scene where peggy talks about the fork to the back was like a knife through the heart was that luanne says her mom isn't like that anymore she doesn't drink and doesn't even eat with a fork i believe luanne's line is a joke as of course her mom doesn't drink or eat with a fork she's in prison like yeah yes yes that was a fork i believe luanne's line is a joke as of course her mom doesn't drink or eat with a fork she's in prison like yeah yes yes that was a joke i missed because the character says it's

so matter of fact but yeah when she says when the mom has changed she doesn't eat with a fork anymore and she stopped drinking yes because she's in prison she's in prison yeah she uh it'd be very hard to get her hands on a fork or alcohol in prison i'm glad i see wiener caught a hidden joke yes the show is full of them. It's too well written. It's too well written, too full of good jokes, and also written in a way that people underestimate it at all times.

And even us, who are trying to read it at maximum level, even we can miss some ultra-subtle jokes sometimes. That's why you patrons save the day. Yes, thank you so much. And thanks as always, really. Yes, thank you for listening everybody again it's gonna be a fun august wrapping up the disney renaissance summer covering things like us on top

of that smiling friends uh new talkie futurama just talking in the hill some big fun guests coming up on talking simpsons it's gonna be great yeah oh man yeah this last month we had some great big guys we finally had mike mitchell uh that was that was some ups and downs and trying to get it but he was it's because he's a very busy man he was he was like in between filming twisted metal when he recorded with that's true that's true so we got it we got him on the rise hope he doesn't forget about us uh and yeah we don't know if we're going to pax yet uh we're waiting on the approval as soon as we know you will know to check our Twitter account at TalkSimpsonsPod, or you can follow me and Henry. I'm at Bob Servo, and you're at H-E-N-E-R-E-Y-G.

That's right. I know it. I can do it now. And thanks for listening. We'll see you again next time for another episode. Take care. Wow. Infotainment.