Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - June 2021

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

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I heartily endorse this event or product. with me today as always hey it's henry gilbert and i am ready to make space for an arcade machine oh no it's actually happening we'll talk about this very soon but yes so this is talk to the audience our community podcast that posts on the last week of the month for people on patreon and the first week of the month for people on the free feed and in this podcast we talk about the simpsons news and our news and we also respond to what's happening on the comment section for the most recent episodes that we posted and yes welcome to the month of uh july i guess or it's about to be july yes june is over hey say goodbye to june we had we had time to welcome it last time yeah we're just one month into the summer now it's uh boy this june it's been a weird june but yes good good stuff good things are opening

up I believe the state of emergency is over in uh in California California yeah yeah apologies to everyone else because we we not not Henry and I but our country is hoarding all the vaccines and now lots of people don't even want them anymore so we're just sending them away yeah and then we get to look cool by doing it like see aren't we nice we're sending them away we're helping we're helping these people because alabama couldn't help themselves damn it yeah but yeah we had uh we've had a fun month and a lot to uh to talk about as well and they're uh you know not as much simpsons news this much month as usual but there were some cool stuff out there no and we are recording this a bit earlier than we normally record talk

to the audience so no nothing better happen yeah nothing better happen and if it does we'll just drop it in right here so hopefully nothing happens uh let's go over simpsons news so yeah not a lot happened except uh we'll lead off here with uh one news item and that is uh david silverman and aljean did a new interview with insider talking about the show's changing animation styles and uh basically commenting on what people say about the opening where it looks kind of stiff and we find out why and the answer is simply aljean saying they didn't give us any money yeah and we were also knew it using these tools so that is why the opening for the past uh let's say uh nine 18 19 years has it been that long uh what was it 14 it's 14 because it's right after the

movie so we're like 13 or 14 yeah i've lost all track of time but yeah it's that simple and i mean these are all facts that i already know but they explain like well here's the what traditional animation is here's what digital is i wish they would have went into more detail about the hd era and what that entailed in terms of the tools they're using and how much of it is hand-drawn. But that is like super nerdo information that they're not willing to talk about in this article. You know, when I saw this video in my feed at first, it didn't show that Silverman and Gene were interviewed for it. So I thought it was just another like the publication was insider.

And I thought it was just another video. I was like, look how The Simpsons looks different now. But then I was impressed that they actually reached out to Silverman and Gene, two top-level people who would have answers about this. And it was really interesting because they did directly mention, you know, the Marge's head turn thing and how that had become a viral post in the last couple months of just talking about, like, oh, look how Marge's head used to do a really cool bit of animation in the old opening and now it just moves slightly yeah and i feel like now that they're with disney they should just reanimate

that opening because it was such a missed opportunity it's one of the most iconic pieces of tv animation if not the most that's ever been created yeah to recreate it in a lesser way always felt like a missed opportunity to me so i say like at least or just kickstart it i'll pay you five bucks to recreate the end the opening in a very nice way spend like you know a hundred million dollars on it get to make it be a forever kind of opening yeah what i feel for silverman because like he you know he wants it to look better like he talks about how in the movie uh which we talked a bit about on the we hate movies about it he is trying to get the expressiveness back in there you know he had left and when he came back he's he sees all these new tools and different practices he's like please guys let's get some more expressiveness and creative uh posing

in it and they do when they can but it also is they just have no money like it's just well not no money i'm sure i'm sure most animated series would kill for the simpsons budget but the animation team is not getting as much money as let's say writers voice actors executives things like that which like they're all getting paid i think the voice actors are getting paid uh underpaid as well based on how much money fox and now disney is made off it but their extreme pay uh their pay looks extreme compared to what we know the animators are getting yeah much less yeah i won also i was interested to the aljean mentions how you know one bit of crunch i never considered was that they were so used to reusing backgrounds or settings and

all that that when they went to hd they're like oh crap no widescreen they're like yeah we can't use any of these anymore we got to redo everything yeah even for reference well it's like well what's on the left and right of you know the androids dungeon or mose or whatever because now there's a lot more space to fill so so it's an interesting video. Folks should look that one up on insider.com. And our next news item, Mike Reese is saying some very obvious things, at least to me. But I'm glad they're in print because he's doing a new interview for his podcast, What Am I Doing Here? Which is him and his wife bragging about all the places they go to.

Well, from Reese's perspective, if you read his Twitter, it's him saying, My wife drags me everywhere and I hate it. So'm just gonna make jokes about it while she is uh you know commenting on the culture of the places that's funny uh so uh reese says quote the show could run forever and even if the simpsons hits canceled five years later it'll get rebooted or spinoffs certainly there would be another movie we haven't even had a chance to go and come back again so yeah i mean as we get older at a certain point in my life maybe even in the past five years i thought well yeah like if dan castellanetta dies and the simpsons is over but it's like no you dummy like pinto kolvig died in like 1965 goofy

still dancing around on the screen this because and because it's owned by disney it will outlive all of us and our children yeah you know i didn't think the old fox management would let it lie fallow either but it might even be that they won't even take a break like in i could have seen like fox goes oh all right you know what simpsons canceled we'll put it on ice for a few years and then boom a new movie and we'll bring it back but i i think with reese he's got a real good point of like we never even had a chance to go and be welcome back like family guy got to go away and then everybody got to be like whoa hey it's back or the flintstones or rocky and bullwinkle simpsons

has never gone away it's always been there and i really honestly think uh this is a cynical thought of mine but disney has to be saying a lot of these people that are on the show are in their 70s or approaching their 70s. We need to figure out who's going to be the next Marge. We need to figure out who's going to play Burns. Like, we need to figure out this because Disney does that for all of their characters. And these are now Disney characters. They've got a list. Yeah, for sure.

They've got a list. I mean, when Lucy Taylor died, her understudy was waiting in the wings yeah to play mini mouse though that also makes you know that was uh it's great griffin doing it and she's she's great but she is just you know she's not famous she's um she's a great voice actor but do you think that you know when the time comes how much say does you know aljean or brooks or graining get over the new homer and how much input does disney give on like well the new homer has to be this level of famous they have to be like nick offerman or some bullshit they have to cost this much exactly yeah yeah i really i mean we're gonna see it in our lifetimes probably within the next 10 years someone will step down or pass away unfortunately just how

time works time works i i just feeling today we're recording this on the 30th anniversary of sonic and i just thought like oh the the 20th anniversary was was just yesterday wasn't it i mean this is not me like putting a curse on him but harry shearer was a child actor on the jack benny show okay yeah he is uh approaching 80 and you know uh he might not want to be burns in his 90s if he can live that long. Yeah, I mean, the last, well, you know, the current deal is still going. So I think they're going to, he quit once before. I would bet after the next, when it comes to the next negotiation time, he might just go like, that's, I'm good. Yeah, 40 years is good enough for me.

But then again, if somebody does say to you, two hours a week 10 weeks a year do it from your home do it from your home we will give you five million dollars like because that's ultimately what their per episode rate works out to i probably would still do it even if i hated the thing i'd be like boy five million dollars that sounds pretty nice i guess you could never have too much money once you get enough of it just like yeah, yeah, add more to the pile. Well, because he's not going to get posthumous residuals from the job. So you got to make that pile as big as possible for your, you know, descendants. You need the fanciest tomb there is to prove that you truly live.

So yes, check that out. Something that made me laugh is that I have not heard Mike Reese's podcast yet, but I like this little tag at the end. What am I doing here with Mike Reese is available on the Believe Podcast Network now. What? So people, just please stop making podcast networks. Have a Patreon. Have a Patreon, guys. Yes, it's that easy. You can buy your own mics, especially if you're Mike Reese, you can buy your own mics.

Your name is Mike. It's self-explanatory. Just find a guy on Fiverr who's like, or ask us, Mike Reese. I'll tell you what to buy. When we had Mike Reese on, he praised how professional we sounded. And there weren't barking dogs in the background. That was nice. One of the best compliments I've ever received.

A lack of barking dogs. And yes, the Simpsons Arcade, we mentioned it up front, but the Simpsons Arcade from 1991 made by Konami is getting its own arcade one-up cabinet this year it's six hundred dollars and pre-orders start on july 15th along with turtles in time and x-men and what was buried in the lead here or the lead was buried in that simpsons bowling is also on this will be on there which is why there's a trackball in case you're wondering why is there a trackball that's why that's another i think it's konami that made it in the late 90s yeah i i published it i think that shows the only people they uh worked with on this was konami for for more of it yeah well i guess that they'd have to get some ea permission because the a still has the rights to it which

is why it's 600 yes yeah it's the sweetest plum you know there's arcade one-up recreations uh i now bob i know also i know this opinion already because, spoilers, you might hear a podcast about Simpsons Arcade in the future. Am I on it? Yeah. But so I know your opinion on these is just buy a MAME machine and have your play Simpsons on there for the five minutes. For far less money. Yes. But I like that it looks like the old thing it's a fun recreation i heard there it's fun

that it like clicks and clacks around i won't have to worry about a crt tv anymore at least hack it so it plays more than two games i know it to yourself i might do that but yes i am seriously considering buying it but where are you gonna put it is that my question okay where it's playable so uh this is the other plan that basically it's gonna go out of print i won't be able to just buy it whenever i feel like it so if i'm gonna buy it i gotta buy it now so my plan is uh you know i'm gonna have a little free time myself in the coming month where i just throw away things i boxes i have not opened since i moved i would have space for a big box of that arcade in my closet in the bedroom and so i am going to clean out that closet and make space for my simpsons arcade i'm

going to say you have to you have to clear out the amount of matter that that machine would take up yes well and then the plan is you know someday i'm going to move to a bigger place and then take the box and have a proper space for it. So you're going to hide it from me in the closet. Yes, it's the closet case of a Simpsons arcade machine. I'll probably not even unpack it, but it's just, again, it's like this is going to go out of print. If I really want it, I kind of got to buy it now. Well, I'm no fun about these things.

I think you should just build a main cabinet or have somebody build one for you i don't like video game music on vinyl it's cool if you buy it but i just like to have get it on spotify or youtube i don't want things taking up space i'm about to do a huge move so that's why i'm thinking about this so sorry for being a buzz kill if also i wasn't going to buy the simpsons Arcade one, I would buy the X-Men one. Because that was my second favorite Konami machine. And is that extra big, too? Well, so Arcade 1-Up had never... They'd only done two-player up to this point.

This is their first four-player run. That's why it's Turtles in Time and X-Men. They did not make a six-player version of X-Men. It's only four-player. Right. So that's another knock against... I think there was an alternate version of that in arcades like there was a one monitor version of the x-men game but

they but at that point it's like ah come on i never touched one of those because i was spoiled by the the two monitors and one looking slightly worse one is actually a mirror reflecting the monitor that's uh pointed up but uh but yeah so july 15th that's the pre-orders uh i wonder how many of our listeners are are i saw in the discord some other folks were like i'll pay 600 for this i'm just glad it's going to be playable uh for a select few yes it's a good game let's just put it on put it on like marketplaces again too i mean come on if they got a new deal to put it on an arcade machine, I would hope that the door is open potentially for another deal, like to get it back on a marketplace for some reason. Yes. And in other news, we have some potential cease and desist action is happening here.

At least I hope not. I hope not. But in Dallas, Texas, there's been some pop up shops shops based on Moe's and Krusty Burger. And if I was in Texas, which I won't be going to because they changed their gun laws in ways that frighten me, I would check them out. Yeah, no, they do look pretty cool. But this is the Wild West of themed entertainment these days. There's the ones out there that work with the people and actually do it. Like there was the, just saw kevin smith touring america with like hey it's a movies pop-up and i'm here meet me but he owns movies at least

i think he does i believe he does yeah so he can do that but but then there's other ones that are like i think there was it was in the news a few years ago about a rick and morty themed place that then adult swim shut down right like you can't just do a pickle rick place and now there is um the rick and morty wendy's as of this recording that's right which i've seen uh people in la have been tweeting about it too so it works no i mean hey would you would i if i could have just walked into it and seen it would i have gone to the max if i lived in la like probably this all this is related this all reminds me of the website we used to work for and then i thought i was being hired to write about video games for a video game

website that was not the case i'd be pulled into meetings and you would be too like we're gonna have a game of thrones uh booth at this convention what kind of food should we serve yeah it's like how does this make money yeah and then do anything as soon as we left that place uh the next comic-Con happened, and I saw them tweet, like, we've got Pickle Rick soda. Just like, is there some ad deal happening behind the scenes? Like, I thought this was a website. And every time it was a food truck.

Like, we'd go into those meetings, and they'd be like, all right, guys, think outside the box. What are we going to do? Let's hear some crazy ideas. And then by the end of the meeting, they're like, so we can get another food truck and just and there's nothing against giving away food yeah that uh like if you charge for it they might have trouble but they can just give away steven universe or regular show food and it's fine it's just i don't know how it ever made money

i mean it didn't that's why it was just it was all It was all just a fake setup to sell to somebody else. We were there. We were part of the scam, unknowingly. We were a real website. We made soda. But that Butterfinger shot, I'd try that. When I saw that at the fake Moe's in Dallas, Texas. And they better have a purple alcoholic flaming mose there you know i i would

be tempted to go there just to just to go to a dank mose not the not the too bright with children inside universal mose i can't even stand to walk in it now i'm just like because well also i know a duff is a sam adams they just put it on the thing like it's not even a micro brew at the very least i you know at disney they can fake it like they don't tell you well this is just a beer brand you know what it is like they can at least go like no we made our own beer you can see the tap that says sam adams yes yeah and sam adams is great but it should be a shittier beer if you're uh you know trying to replicate duff yeah it is like swill to us make it make it a schlitz or a straw or one of those midwestern brands perhaps

perhaps is the the king of crappy beers takate get takate takate is the is the western king of crappy beers yeah well i guess that really should be we're there to be a king of the hill themed one that's what alamo should be is takate so that's true yeah disney get on that uh so yes they own that too right they? They do, yeah. If you're in Dallas, Texas, check it out. Maybe send us some pictures. I want to see the inside of Moe's. We're on to more Simpsons shoes. Can you believe it was, I think,

last July that was it the Vans people? It was the Vans people. We got our free Simpsons shoes. I have not worn them yet because there's no reason to, but I will have a reason soon. I'll get to that. These are by Adidas. the uh the link you sent me henry there's one based on albarto but a real problem with the font they chose is it's a lowercase a in a graffiti font so it looks like it says alborto oh that's great i didn't that didn't even hit me because

well it has to be lowercase a for the Adidas logo. Yeah, I think so. But you know what? I don't think it's intentional. I don't think they're going for a Bort reference. I think it's just like, well, that's hard to read. You're right. It does look like a Borto. Yeah.

Not, not Bart's best spray paint. My graffiti tagging son is also named Borto. But I mean, it looks like a nice pair of shoes. And also, definitely cheaper than the Vans shoes were. Like those, I think it's like, I know it's a $65 shoe because I bought them. But I needed a new pair of Adidas. Okay. I wanted, I was like, you know what, I'm getting that. I wouldn't pay $130 for the squishy or Flaming Mo branded ones that had come out before and there's uh the elusive

crusty burger sneaks oh yes yeah those those are the ones the hunters are going for apparently the albarto's nobody the people don't care enough you know no i mean white shoes you're asking for trouble that's that's my opinion as a practical man that's true look yeah and design wise the vans are better like all the all the vans they had, not just the super fancy ones like the Mr. Plow ones, but even just the slip-on ones that are blue and orange. I love those ones so much. I just bought a new pair of just that style of shoes. Oh, I was going to say, are they still in print?

No, those shoes are out of print. I was like, oh, I like that just slip-on style of Vans. That's why I wore it at Disney because, well, that story's coming later. They just slip on and off super easy. And we have news about sports. How did this end up in the podcast? Well, it's because our friend James L. Brooks, who we met, he was very nice to us and he smelled nice.

He is rooting for the LA Clippers, who up until recent history, I believe, have been notoriously huge losers. And this is a story on Heavy.com about his history with the team in that he was in L.A., he moved there when he was 25, he followed the Lakers, but he hated them. And then this new team called the Clippers showed up, and he was always there. He said you could hear the balls, echoes,

rebounding off the 300 people in the audience, basically. Like nobody cared about the Clippers. And now suddenly people care because apparently they're winning i like that brooks has been the only famous fan for the longest time and now he's like oh finally jumping on the bandwagon yeah we've uh we've already recorded tennis the menace which that has a joke of calling the simpsons the la clippers of tennis and referring to the simpsons they're Clippers of tennis. Referring to the Simpsons, they're easy beatability. Sorry, I stumbled on that. Well, so on that podcast, I say,

well, the Clippers have never won an NBA championship. And from what I've seen, most of the odds makers still don't think they're going to. But I do feel like we are cursed to be proven wrong on a thing once we've recorded it. So I think they might just win. And James L. Brooks should thank us for that. We've cemented it.

So hats off to you, James L. Brooks. Hope it happens for you, buddy. They better invite him to the parade. You've been the only famous fan for such a long time. He should be like the drum marshal leading the parade down the street. This 80-year-old man, 80-year-old billionaire. So let's move on to the final news item in saturn news uh but i think it's uh actually it's happy i think that

conan o'brien is ending his late night show this week and i'm happy that i at least got to go to one conan taping it wasn't the hour-long show that i liked as a kid and as a teen and in a person in the early 20s but yes the tbs show correct the half hour show is ending and you know what i think conan uh has evolved beyond that format and i never liked that format i only like the people that managed to break it and that's why i like conan and letterman and people like that like he does not belong there anymore i miss i also miss when he used to wear suits when he went to 30 minutes he was like i'm wearing a leather jacket now like fuck this i was like okay leather jacket we got to see it we got to meet conan backstage it was very nice that was an amazing gift for my husband yes to all of us thanks again to him

yeah for that amazing one-of-a-time experience there there's been some fun well it's this it's been this weird mix the last couple weeks where conan and other people have gotten to have back uh their audiences for their late night shows in person so you have all this energy of like yay audiences are back and then it's feeling of like well not for much longer in a week i'm done and then i go to hbo max at some indeterminate time yeah i wonder what he's gonna do but i'm sure it'll be fun it's some sort of variety show, yes. I'm just going to tell him, stay out of podcasting, buddy. No, he's one of the most successful now.

It's very unfortunate. It's just that easy. No, I know. It's fine. It's fine. Conan is allowed to be successful wherever he goes. And he is a good interviewer. Like, it's funny to listen to.

It's not like he is one of those low-effort celeb podcasts. What I'm saying is it's unfair that he's that talented and funny. It's not fair that one man was given all that talent. He's already tall. Yes. What more do you want? There have been some fun final bits on Conan. Andy Daly did a really good one, if I direct people to it.

We haven't seen the final episode at the time we're recording this, but this week they had on the final appearance of Paul Rudd. And it's What You Think. Yes. It is worth watching. Excellent. Yes, I did see a clip of that. So yes, hats off to Conan as well. Lots of hats are coming off this episode.

Hello, everybody. We're talking to you from after the original talk to the audience recording because we care. Yes. Yeah. Hello everybody, we're talking to you from after the original talk to the audience recording because we care. Yes, yeah, and we have now seen the final episode of Conan on TBS and because there's no way we could have this go out with us saying like, well, I guess it was like, you know, the last episode of Conan we haven't seen yet when The Simpsons is a key part of the last episode of Conan. And in that last episode, there was a two-minute segment with Homer basically giving Conan his exit interview, and they make the references you think they would make. Yeah, it's really cute. It sounded like it came in, you know, David Silverman storyboarded it and directed it. I would bet Al Jean had a hand in writing it because I know Al Jean on Twitter had said that he was at the

audience for the final episode as well so i have a feeling he did it you know it's a favor to his old to his old keg meister you know yeah and uh one thing is that they did change the caricature because the last time he was on the show was 1993 nearly 30 years ago yeah so he does look a little different i i wish they would have made his head bigger because you need a big fat irish head for conan which he references that and his freckles but they're not on the character design no i was really a little disappointed that he had no freckles on his character design and same with uh you know he describes that he jokingly describes his head now as a rotting pumpkin so his head and yet his cartoon head is

shrunk since 1995 and apparently this was all done very quickly by uh david silverman i mean not the whole thing of course but he was the guy who boarded and directed this little segment yeah i saw gene thank uh at tubatron on twitter saying like uh fantastic animation in an incredibly limited time to get it ready for the final episode like I would bet I would bet they had under a month for that honestly and Homer does sound a little old I will say he will forever yeah but I do like that Homer points out like oh this is your third show yeah so I mean when Conan says goodbye on HBO Max and he's like 70 i don't even know if i'm gonna tune in my time he's like all right this is number four conan please retire i did have a good laugh at homer going like of your third show and also the the goofy i was waiting for something to the monorail episode if you're gonna mention any

conan episode i also liked afterwards conan said you know i want to give a leg up to these guys and this is show simpsons you maybe haven't heard of it uh i mean he probably was having a pretty good laugh at that despite having a 28 year career in late night the simpsons was there when he started and it still is going and will go on for years every person asked him about it including us when we met him no i i joked on twitter that now conan can go back to writing every single episode of the simpsons from now on but uh but yes so we just wanted to get in a little a little brief review of the new simpsons animation they did for conan as part of his lovable farewell.

So now on to news about us. Before we talk about our big month of July, it's going to be fun. I have personal news about me. Something is finally happening. And Henry, I'll have to ask you in the edit to drop in a certain song here. I'll drop in O Canada in the mix because I am heading to Canada, friends, for an entire

month because I've been separated because of border things from my wife for six months. Previously, it had been nine months before I got to see her. So hopefully after this, things will be much smoother. But yes, because I am an immediate family member, we are married. I can get into Canada with a COVID test that's negative taken in the last 72 hours. I don't have to quarantine when I get there. Yes.

And I've been here in America since January 6th. That's when I flew back on the most memorable day in US history. Yeah, what a wonderful... Your plane took off as people were storming the Capitol. People were like, good luck coming home, buddy. Yeah. I already feel bad enough. But yes, I did want to say this because I

did want to thank all of our patrons and people that support us because without your support, we could not have these weird schedules where we can work months in advance and buy me a whole month to just do nothing. Because we have so many. We've been recording things for like September. I think one thing for October. And we've got like I think almost all of August done. Like we are so far ahead and we're going to be spending the next few weeks before I leave for a month to wrap up some things that we'll be posting while I'm gone.

But you will not miss any podcast because i'm gone and i'm sure i'll be tweeting a lot from canada and hanging out a lot with nina and we're gonna be having lots of fun and uh yeah i cannot wait for that so it's finally happening yeah i'm very excited i thought it would never happen it only happened a few days ago because it was like yes the 20th every week or every month they would just say nope not opening it and and even at first like when i saw the news i was like oh wait it says it's still closed that's when i saw the exceptions and was and was so happy for you guys so not everybody i think it's immediate family members with a test but previously if you didn't hear the past podcast when i went there i had to

quarantine for 14 days in a small apartment and we famously got along. There were no fights or tension or anything, but I never want to do that again. I did it once and I never want to do it again. So now as soon as I get there, I'm free and we're both free to have fun in the summertime. So it's going to be great. Well, and then when you went, that was right before they changed the rule of life. Now you have to do it alone in a hotel room that you pay for. Yeah.

They like literally in the last week that I was there, I believe, they're like, here are all these new restrictions. We let Bob Mackie in. This cannot happen again. No, I just want to say I'm really happy for you guys. It's finally opened back up to a degree. And also, you and I have been now in the fully, we can't be more vaccinated currently.

And we've been that way for over a month now. So it's really great. I think today I've been fully vaccinated for an entire month. Not just fully vaccinated, but like the vaccine did its two week course. And then I'm Superman. Indestructible. Yeah. May 1st was it for me.

And so it's been really nice again to like buy movie tickets yeah and i reinstalled the fandango app and i felt a certain way i was like oh this this feels nice i hate this i hate that reinstalling fandango made me feel good i can't wait to use this shitty app all over again but yeah i'm saying i'm right now i'm buckling down on you know all of the podcasting i've been doing and uh saving all my outside fun for when i go to canada and going to like bars and drinking and you know restaurants you know outside people aren't as vaccinated in canada of course we'll have to be a little more careful uh my wife is not fully vaccinated yet that might change before i go who knows but yes it's going to be lots of fun and thanks to everyone

for supporting the podcast network this is our full-time job if it wasn't we couldn't work that far ahead and because it is we can work way into the future until the point where lots of things you say on podcasts are proven wrong yes yeah people die uh we we haven't had a death yet no no we'll uh or i mean recently we haven't had one uh with this we everybody knows we had a real spade of them there but yeah so yes on to the what a cartoon schedule for july now we announced this i believe in the end of april but this is going to be the first month of our new what a cartoon schedule in which there will be uh two new what a cartoon episodes every month and also the movie episode along with that and because of that uh we can go

over the schedule now and the first episode we'll be doing is we'll be hitting future boy conan and we're kicking off our new schedule with some great guests so yes go ahead henry oh yes yeah so uh we have back on ian jones cordy and rebecca sugar the creator of steven universe and the creator of Steven Universe and the creator of OKKO we haven't had Rebecca Sugar on since 2018 when we did Poochie in person yeah great great times and you know Rebecca doesn't do a lot of podcasts but doing Future Boy Conan was so important to her like it is you've got to hear it already bob just how much ian and rebecca love that series and it's one of the most important japanese animated series ever but is virtually unknown to most americans like i didn't watch it until uh ian jones cordy told me himself watch it but uh yeah so we're doing the second episode it's called the journey

and look sometimes it's on youtube if you search for episode two sometimes it's in other places uh or you could buy the 400 blu-ray from japan you know but if it means you won't be a patron anymore don't do that yeah don't don't do that but yes uh that's gonna be the first episode to kick off our new schedule and then the second episode of What a Cartoon for the month of July is going to be the Gumby short moon trip. That was a patron request, but the episode was chosen by me because it's weird as hell. Early Gumby is so weird. We go into the history of Gumby, the very strange history of its creator.

And it was a very, very fun episode to do. Oh yeah. Gumby is one of the weirdest things ever but also like corny as hell yeah it's such a it's corny and also nightmarish at the same time yeah and Art Clokey lived such an interesting life like I could not believe it yes uh it's going to be a fun one to listen to and also finally the movie for July is going to be a Bob Mackie favorite, The Hunchback of Notre Dame. So we're in the history. Sorry, we're in the summer of the Disney Renaissance.

So we previously we did Hercules and now we're moving on to Hunchback of Notre Dame. We had a yes, no vote. You guys voted yes. And it is the 25th anniversary of this film, the dark Disney Renaissance movie that frankly could be darker. But I like how far it goes. Yeah. Some people will complain about the gargoyles you know but uh yeah one of them is basically duck man what are you talking about

he just is duck man who who but i think his want to have sex with goats is equal to duck man oh that's true he is a pervert too yeah the i was just re-watching it on a on a trip and i was like wow man all these songs are great like this it's better than hercules yes for sure we hated hercules but i think it blows hercules out of the water yes i also enjoyed hercules to a point which you'll hear all about the end of this month but yes that's the hunchback of notre dame uh not the blunchback of bloat your blame no we're not the critic uh parody hunch yes yeah which i feel like they knew this cartoon was that movie was coming and they were mocking their fellow disney people there's a joke

on the commentary that somebody got designs from disney because they knew an animator so they were kind of ripping off disney stuff in production at the time that's funny now you listeners are probably saying out there hey guys there are four mondays in uh july you name three podcasts well this is part of our new schedule too the second monday of every month is going to be where talking futurama goes now previously it was the last i believe friday of the month and now it's going to be the second monday of every month from now until the end of time so yes you will get a talking futurama on that monday in that monday what a cartoon slot if you are a five dollar and up patron we are still going through season three and we are having a lot

of fun doing it and yeah i uh we had said it before but i you know it was really jamming up uh three times during the mini series where it's like oh we have a king of the hill and then the very next day futurama i was like how many people can listen to that in you know 24 hour time span yeah i think in one like one span of one week it's like talking simpsons what a cartoon talking of the hill talking futurama and then the movie because it was at the end of the month yes yep yeah in a seven day span i think it was like uh 13 14 hours of audio brand new which hey you get your money's worth here, guys. But yeah.

Yeah. From now on, again, it'll be two other cartoons a month and also the movie on top of that. And Talking Futurama, if you're a $5 and up patron, that is what's going in all those Monday slots. And I do think that lighter schedule, slightly lighter schedule for it, gave us opportunities to really focus on on working around big guests we have other guests coming in the future too like i i hope you guys enjoy the future boy conan one with with ian and rebecca because it's uh it shows you like we were going

to be working still yeah big time on on what a cartoon yeah i was actually looking at old notes and it did strike me these are the notes of someone who was making too many podcasts because now my notes are much longer yeah some of my old notes are kind of rushed because it's like i have to i have three podcasts to record and four more to prep for so now we can focus more on individual podcasts it's been a lot of fun for us and very rewarding too so we have another poll coming up for the august what a cartoon movie again this is part of the disney renaissance summer this is the final month of the summer series of podcasts about disney movies from the 90s and we've got some big ones that surprisingly our audience has not voted for yet yeah i am so confused i think it just proves that people are maybe four to eight years younger than us usually on the whole yeah yeah but these movies are going

to be uh the little mermaid beauty and the beast Lion King, and Pocahontas. And yes, you will have your choice of those to vote for if you are a $5 and up patron. And that will be our subject matter for the month of August, closing out our Disney Renaissance Summer for What a Cartoon Movie. Yeah, the reason we picked those is because they are, if you were to go in chronological order, of the official Disney renaissance that begins with The Little Mermaid. Those are the first four. We've already covered Aladdin, so that's why we are skipping that one and putting Pocahontas at the end. And yeah, I mean, you pick any of them, it's a great list. I'm not the biggest fan of Pocahontas, but I also haven't watched it in full since I saw it in theaters when I was 13

I think it was on tape for me the first and only time I saw it but yeah I think when we started what a cartoon movie we're like let's not do the easy choices but now I really want to do these because like I haven't seriously re-evaluated these since I was like a teen or a kid oh man and watching like uh Hercules and a Hunchback now i'm just so appreciating the character animation on a whole new level like we we were just so spoiled by it like oh i guess these are like good animators at disney when it's like no these are like master classes in character animation nobody can do this ever again oh just the way the the way quasimodo moves, like his little stutter step is so amazing. It's so subtle.

Incredibly difficult character to animate. And I can't wait to talk about that movie. But yes, that is it for news about the network. As for news about us, we usually talk in the section about the media we've been engaging with that we necessarily aren't podcasting about, except we're doing it now. And in terms of games, last month I finished the Dragon Quest XI epilogues, making it that I played 150 hours of Dragon Quest. This month I finished Yakuza Like a Dragon at 100 hours.

And I was ready to step away, even though the game was like, there's a new dungeon for you. And I'm like, delete, delete, delete. Yeah, yeah no that i mean that new dungeon is crazy huge and it's also well i think i was tempted because i was so close to platinuming it or getting all 1000 achievements i should say but that final dungeon's like you have to be 99 to get yeah i was like well i am not doing i ended at 70 and i was like i've had enough leveling it's good it's a good podcast uh fodder you know just to level up in that game go through the dungeons in the uh the arena of stuff how much did you play

like the mini games like the kart racer and the gambling stuff i mainly stuck to the kart racer i never engaged with the property sim oh man i played the crap i just was so bad at it at first and i didn't want to invest the time in getting good at it or learning how it worked now mahjong didn't touch that didn't uh well one of these days maybe i'll learn and same with the hanafuda game it's just like i i don't know how to play these and the game is not good at teaching you how to play it's like well you're japanese right you shouldn't know how to play this like no and so the like the localizers i feel for those localizers they have to just throw like five walls of text in front of you like well you clicked on somebody who plays hana plays hanafuda so all right here's

how you do it here's that is like well okay no thank you it is like the troy mcclure tape and how to fix your drywall yes happy my patching travel boy other things i've been playing uh i replayed ace attorney 3 for the first time uh i played it way back when it came out uh spoilers i'm doing an ace attorney podcast for retronauts that's the best game in the series very happy to replay very rewarding and also i'm getting ready for the english release of the great ace attorney games coming out on switch ps4 and pc uh in mid or late july so we're looking for a lot of shows yeah no i i'm i can't again i can't believe those are coming out i think in a world without a pandemic shutting down new game development for that long i wonder

if it ever if it would have but i think it was an easy choice because it's like we can localize a game instead of making a new one uh go go go do it oh man though i read uh a polygon interview with one of the localizer translators for the the great ace attorney and previous ace attorneys it's amazing like you i learned so much of like no this is how do you take a thing that's all in japanese that has many japanese cultural specifics and like puns and all this then change it but still keep the core mechanics the same while also being funny they do a lot of work yeah it's like every character's name is a joke now translate the joke and also make it a real name can you do that also uh i think it was

for post e3 stuff but the switch had a ton of games on sale oh yeah a lot of first party games which never go on sale or rarely go on sale so frankly i bought too many games and then i found out i was going to canada so i was like aha i bought these for a reason because nina still has to do some work while i'm there so last time i was there i just played like 60 hours of dark souls this time i'll play a game i haven't played before as a fun change as as nina's drawing away you're picking away at uh pikmin yes uh i got pikmin 3 and also pre-ordering Mario Golf, which comes out on the 25th, which is already out by the time you listen to this,

and I can't wait to play more Mario Golf. And last time it came out, I think I reviewed it for the 3DS. Yeah, I am tempted to get it. I've skipped the last couple golf games because they didn't have RPG elements. They never will. This one sort of does it's not

like a story mode it's going to be disappointing that's all i'm gonna say that's just my prediction but i do want to put a golf game for my switch that's not golf story which i've already played too much oh yeah yeah well yeah i i played so much golf story and what the golf which isn't really a golf game that's a really good game yeah it is great and so yeah lots of switch stuff uh for the future here and because i just played like two 100 hour games back to back i started playing hyper light drifter from like five years ago it's a tidy like eight to ten hours and i'm having fun like i can actually progress in a game i can sit down with the game and not and beat more than one percent of it so it's very satisfying so as for watching stuff this is very

brief uh finished castlevania season four i'm way behind everybody on this i know but yes good i'm glad there will be more of it i'm glad that perva will not be associated with it anymore interested to see where it's going from here because they did wrap up the story right yeah i uh man i didn't i didn't watch season three i i only watched one and two i i'm behind on people don't like three i like three and four is also good i think that's why i didn't watch three when three because two has a two feels like the end yeah so it made and then when i heard three wasn't as good from from some folks not from you i was like ah maybe i don't make time for it yeah it's good i i recommend it also uh nina and i are watching continuing to watch The Parasite,

Parasite with a Y, anime series based on the manga from the late 80s, early 90s. They make some changes, but I do like it. I recommend it. It's on Netflix in America and Canada. And also, I joined the gym again because the gym opened at the end of May, I believe. And yeah, so now I'm going to the gym three days a week and because of that I am back on my one piece horse watching two episodes every time I go to the gym and I'm just cruising through it because

I mean there are like 800 episodes now and I'm only on like episode 180 but still I can get through six weeks of one piece in a week of working out so I recommend like very slow paced shonen anime shows when you're working out because uh nothing happens and you don't miss anything but you can't go anywhere so it's it's not it's not

a problem and it's all about working towards a goal very gradually just like uh being in the gym yeah uh so every week i watch a movie with nina i can go over the movies i watch real quick here even though this is not a movie podcast so yes, yes, I finally have seen Speed Racer, the Wachowski Speed Racer. It is good. It's very fun to watch. I will say it's also 40 minutes too long. Oh, yes. But they are being very self-indulgent, and it's fun.

So it should be like an 86-minute movie, but it's an hour and 40, I think. I'm glad for them that they can be that self-indulgent and ridiculous. Especially after the two matrix uh sequels that everybody hated that they're still like nah you make something silly like uh i don't like uh spridle in the movie but i don't think anyone's ever supposed to like spridle in any form you're never supposed to whoever likes spridle i think it's child abuse to make a child play spridle oh yeah can you play the hated child the hated little fat child who eats candy all the time? If they ever do another one, Spritele is just CGI.

Or an adult who gets shrunk down. So for the first time since I watched it on tape as a kid, I watched Thelma and Louise because our wedding rings have the phrase good waffles on them which is a reference to the Simpsons parody of Thelma and Louise. So I was like, you know

I haven't seen Thelma and Louise since I was a kid, and I wonder if it's good. Now, it is good. Like, every 15 years, Ridley Scott makes a good movie. That was one of them. And, yeah, so it's worth watching. I will say the Simpsons parody, they parody the beginning and the ending. There is no scene like the Goodwaffle scene in the entire movie.

Nobody watched the middle of that movie, I guess. Well, there's no Brad Pitt equivalent in that episode is there no they don't meet uh unless it's like the weird david merkenstein no way that's the parody of the beginning of the movie when with that dirtbag so yes there's no brad pitt style man that they meet in the simpsons uh parody i think it must hit some sort of anniversary because i've seen susan sarandon tweet out like pictures of her with gina davis like celebrating it's the 30th anniversary of film on the news right right also watched the classic japanese movie about ramen tempopo which was very good i will say a slight trigger warning for animal cruelty or abuse in that uh it's a movie about you know

making food they do slaughter an animal on the screen oh that is used in the making of certain ramen dishes the second it shows up you know that animal is going to be killed oh i just don't like to see an animal being killed so yeah um it's pretty rare to see it in a movie i mean even um for all the uh wild stuff you see in the movie old boy i did get on most uncomfortable watching him eat that octopus because like well, that's a real octopus. Which is like, I don't know. If he ate a dead octopus, like I've done more than once, it's like that wouldn't have bothered me for some reason.

But watching him eat a live one. The thing they killed, I hope they at least cooked it. It wasn't just killed. Like, let's get footage of an animal being slaughtered. So, yes, I know things are slaughtered to make food. I'm a huge baby, but I didn't want to see it. But it was a good movie outside of that. I just am touchy about that and finally i i uh doing research about ace attorney i learned a lot of it is inspired by colombo the colombo series of you know movies and tv specials so finally i watched a colombo made for tv movie i was recommended to

watch the second tv movie first which is called ransom for a dead man and i loved it i think i'll watch more colombo nina wasn't as hot on it as i was because with colombo they show you the murderer up front that's what the cold open is like here's what here's the murderer here's what they're doing the rest of it is him wheedling them away taking away their alibis and being very you know nonchalant about that's the fun of it i did enjoy that part of it and it's a fun character to watch so for whatever reason during quarantine during lockdown people were getting into colombo i didn't know why there was a big return to colombo yes yeah i mean i've been seeing ever uh like for years now it and murder she wrote people talk up a lot of like oh boy that's now on netflix i'm gonna just watch this

all day and it is it is tv comfort food it's funny that it both those shows have so much more um staying power than like magnum pi or beguiver or whatever like shows that were on at the same time as that i meanwhile i'd watch every episode of original law and order if i could and then peacock only has like it starts at season 14 which it's good, it's still a good show even there. But like, give me the original season. Why would they not? Why would they hold back? I don't know.

I've, I looked, I haven't looked in a while, but I remember looking on Reddit forums of like trying to figure out how, why it's so unavailable. That's weird. Yeah. But yeah, that's it for me in terms of entertainment. And believe me, I'll be watching lots of movies and TV shows and playing lots of games when I go to Canada. You'll be hearing about that on the next talk to the audience, which I will be recording from Canada. You'll see if you guys can notice Bob has like 5% more of an accent, Vancouver accent. I'll be dubbing some anime very cheaply along there.

Sorry, I'm so late. No, okay. Hey, for me uh let's start with what i've been playing uh so i have been playing that mass effect trilogy i uh so i have something to admit i never really played mass effect when i was in the games press because in my office everybody played mass effect i would have just been part of the crowd and oppositely i could play the games no one else was playing and develop a niche and uh which was more helpful to me professionally and also i didn't like playing a game everybody else was playing if you if enough

people tell me no seriously it's the greatest game it makes me less likely to touch it i'm a jerk like that too yeah i know i but i But I did play Mass Effect 1 and 2. By the time I got to 3, I was like, I've had enough. It's fine. Well, that was... So I did play number one in 07 before I got into the game press. But I only played like seven hours of it. And then I was like, I don't want it.

I just bounced off it. Did you ever get out of the Citadel? No. Once I finished the Citadel, I was like, eh. Because the Citadel is no that once i finished the citadel i was like because the citadel is the best part yeah yeah yeah it's the most rpg shooting yeah it's true that the shooting mechanic it just wasn't for me oh and it crashed on me that was another thing that happens a lot uh so now i just sped through one and then me and my husband are playing two together and i really loved it i was like oh i get why everybody loves this game there's great i still don't care for how it plays because i'm like if i if i want to play a good

cover-based shooter i'll play a gears game this is not anywhere close to as good as that but the characters and the dialogue and the choices and all that like i hate to sound so predictable like what everybody's been saying for over a decade now but it's true except for mass effect 3 so i am in the first active mass effect 3 still i am and i am enjoying it but i also because i was in the games press when it happened i know everything that the ending is and why people hate it yeah like when i first got to the bay area to work at one up it was around the time that game was coming out maybe a year later and i was part i was part of the conversation about should people get a good ending for their money? Does it matter?

Et cetera, et cetera. So I was part of that. But I've been enjoying it so far, playing that legendary edition of the Mass Effect trilogy and getting achievements. The achievement bug is back for me. I dropped it entirely for the Xbox One generation. But this time I'm like uh when i got an achievement in yaksa like a dragon uh the first time i was like oh okay i'm back on this

i'm i'm only playing sony exclusives on my ps5 i'm not touching it for any other reason so you have two games to play three three there's three now there's returnal there's demon souls and ratchet and clank uh also the spot oh wait that's not exclusive that's on ps4 okay well then yes yeah so i've beaten only one of those uh and i haven't touched ratchet and clank yet i've heard good things me too me too i heard the plants don't move when you walk past them man why even bother you're on the ps5 and you have the plants but what i did play on the ps5 this month was final fantasy origin demos paradise paradise of strangers. I got to try that. I know those guys, they really don't like chaos.

That man, they, I killed chaos. I played it until I could finally kill chaos. It's a pretty good souls game. Oh, it's a souls game. It is a souls game.

Team Ninja. It's team ninjas making the souls game, which I guess they did Neo, right? So this is like, I think so. This is the Neo team making a final fantasy one except uh you have two ai compatriots with you and it's a bit nicer in general but and then at the end of it you fight

um the villain of final fantasy one and it's sort of kind of remake of the warriors of light final fantasy one but it was a good little demo uh and it extremely no more uh as well yes they gotta do something with that guy and i've barely touched it so far but i did really enjoy the first dungeon of shimekami tensei nocturne featuring dante from devil may cry featuring dante from the cry series okay uh now with funky mode uh yeah it's uh i mean it's fun uh to hear the full voice acting in it but all right but there are bits in it and i can't bring myself to go to the new casual mode i'm like no i have to play this in the old difficulty and i i know i'm gonna regret it i know but the message board joke from 2003 was yes i played until the first boss killed me and then

i turned it off forever the matador i even know his name it's funny too because mass effect 3 i seriously don't give a crap about shooting anybody and i put it on narrative difficulty because i'm like i don't care about the shooting i just want the story but meanwhile i am forcing myself with smt3 i'm like, I have to play the real difficulty. And yeah, also E3 happened. We're games men. So it was fun watching all the E3 stuff. Though E3 was happening as I did another thing.

But I did watch the Nintendo one fully. And that was, Xbox's was actually pretty good. Nintendo one, I was like folding laundry and it's like i don't need to look at the tv that much for this one yeah well there was some good stuff in there i mean especially advanced wars yeah i'm very excited about that and i'm not a metroid guy but i am i think dread looks neat and uh it was better than uh uh that agl numa thing from the last nintendo direct it's like now now, normally we wouldn't show you Zelda footage, and this day will be no different.

I felt like at the end of this one he posed it similarly. Like, yep, I'm here to not show you. Like, I'm just kidding. But it's still just called the sequel to Breath of the Wild. Yeah, they said that revealing the title would reveal too much about the game and the premise. Yeah, they like thinking like that. I think spring 2022. It's going to be on the fifth anniversary of the Switch coming out. Oh, yeah, that'd be good. the title would reveal too much about the game and the premise so uh they like thinking i think

spring 2022 it's going to be on the fifth anniversary of the switch coming out oh yeah that'd be good holy crap man and and that elden ring looked pretty sweet it did yeah but that i'll play it but it's not it's not even a next gen game that's true while nothing is no no nobody can buy a ps5 so why would you make an exclusive exclusive PS5 game? Yeah. And a shout out to our pals like Alex Navarro at his new place, Nextlander, as well as Matt McMuscles, because I really enjoyed both of their Watch E3 With Them coverages. Those were a lot of fun. Nextlander really exploded upon hitting Patreon. How long ago was that?

It was the week before E3 like days before e3 what a great patreon launch as somebody who has been on patreon for a long time now i think seven years whenever someone screws up it hurts because i think you could have asked me you could have asked anybody but that they didn't screw anything up it's great and they have so much experience i didn't expect it of course but i'm glad to see it went off without a hitch oh yeah they are they they are close to the highest games patreon now i think or uh well there might be some people i've never heard of that they are not ahead of but they're over 12 000 uh patrons uh but yes uh and then as for movies and tv shows uh well so i have been streaming it up a lot on Paramount+. I've been watching all Moonbeam City, Scott Gairdner's show. It's fun.

I'm glad it's somewhere. Finally, people can watch it. It was too good for this world. I feel very bad for Scott Gairdner that a show that funny got advertised in a way that everybody thought it was just an Archer ripoff and nobody watched it. It's way, way funnier than that uh and also watching the show detroiters because you know i want to be done with it before i think you should leave season two starts which is really soon that's uh robinson was there after snl right tim robinson uh yeah and sam richardson uh both of them are just so funny together on Detroiters. I prefer his sketch show because it's just like Detroiters still is a pretend sitcom,

even though it's ridiculous. I think you should leave is just like, like, here is the funniest thing we can do with this in a three minute sketch. And just like smash, smash is funny. I can't wait for that. And I've also almost done with season one of Invincible. The 44, it's eight episodes but they're double length there it's a 44 minute show and that was like a robert kirkman comic book

right yeah which that's the interesting thing for it because i read all of that comic the comic ended a few years ago and i read it in its entirety but i don't have it like fully memorized so when i'm watching it with my husband, he's like, was this a comic story? I was like, yeah, but they kind of changed it or this happened in issue 40, but this is happening right after a thing that happened in issue like eight.

But I really like it. It's very well animated. And now, you know, all the memes, it's getting memed enough. That's how I know it's popular. Yeah, I've seen the memes and that made me think should i watch this so maybe maybe it's pretty good it's pretty good i like it more than uh than the walking dead i i always have well that's a low bar yeah uh and uh also uh as far as movies go has been re-watching the original spider-man movies with

my husband the garfield ones the guy well we'll get to garfield you're getting to those well oh yeah we want to watch them all because at the end of this year is the spider-man team-up movie that's all all been said to be that so uh that's kind of it and and america's going back to the movies so i'm i'm very excited that like uh this friday i'm we're seeing fast nine we're seeing it been the right down the street at the uh the ugly ass movie theater so it didn't close forever it's reopened believe it or not bob yeah no i think all the berkeley ones are are back open or that well what two of the three but yeah and then a couple weeks after that we've already bought our tickets for black widow as our Marvel assignment.

Your Marvel prescription just came in. Same with, you know, I'm watching that Loki show. It's actually been my favorite of the three Disney Plus shows. It's funny and it has like comedy people like three episodes in a row. I've gone, hey, I've heard that person on a podcast over and over again. I get that from watching disney cartoons yes yeah no i that's something invincible as well jason manzoukas is a major voice in it and every time i hear it i'm like man is he just he's just fully stealing everybody's voice roles

jason manzoukas just his voice is too funny it's. Like, well, this is bonkers. And finally, I do want to say that me and my husband did an early birthday trip for him to Disneyland. We flew down to Anaheim. We were there for the final two days of masks and social distance and uh that had its pros and cons which is in 96 degree heat wearing a mask is not very fun i felt the same way when i joined the gym for the first two weeks of june it was masks on in the gym and i was like i like i like working out but it feels like i'm being waterboarded at the same time just like having a wet piece of fabric as your like heart rate is pounding and it also just it was this annoying feeling of like

tomorrow everyone will have to will can just take their masks off like disneyland's rule which i know why they have this rule it's to stop people from like shooting an employee there yeah but the rule is everyone you can only be unmasked if you're vaccinated but you don't have to prove you're vaccinated so you can just be unvaccinated and lie and there's no disneyland's like oh that's cool come on in which is insanity to me like that's that just shows you for so many businesses like the mask and social distancing it's just theater yeah it's nothing but uh so heat sucked but when i got to sit in the front of the indiana jones ride with my husband and nobody else and not having to shove in with anybody, that was pretty great. Same with a whole road to ourselves on Pirates.

I'm into that. Although by the time I go, it'll be, I think Nina and I want to go next winter. Yeah. Hopefully everything will be back to normal, like in America at least. No, that, yeah. Unfortunately, that stuff's over now so you can't uh but it the reason we went was that we did want to experience the avengers campus and i even got a ticket with spider-man on it i was so happy how about the test kitchen uh yes the tent we went to pim's test

kitchen and pim's tasting lab is pim uh i'm giving this off a podcast the right i don't know nothing about these movies is he michael douglas that is michael douglas okay okay it's michael douglas's restaurant it really should be scott lang's but it's the pim test tasting kitchen and test lab uh we ate the big chicken sandwich which really is just a chicken katsu with a tiny burger crust on it and i hear they're good about like uh vegan and fake meat stuff oh obscenely good yeah no it's you can pretty much uh count on a vegan option at every restaurant you go to like the uh yeah the favorite foods we had were the that chicken sandwich the not so little chicken sandwich i I believe is the official name. Trademark. Yeah. We, we really love the chicken and, and,

and fake meat and breakfast shawarma. All three of those were like, great. The shawarma was great. It's just a very tasty food. Like it's, I know it ties into an Avengers movie joke, but it's also the Mediterranean food,

which is just really great that Americans never bothered to try try before you have to go to disneyland for that some americans uh and and also uh the spider-man ride look it's a is it a seven out of ten yes yes it is but it's i learned that uh well i'm sorry please continue i don't want to spoil anything okay well the the spider-man ride they were very up front in like promoting it saying we wanted a spider-man ride the whole family could enjoy which means like this is a ride for five-year-olds but also won't insult you if you're not five but yeah that's that's what it is now you may want to cut this out i don't know but are you going to talk about the web shooters well yes you because my question up front is i didn't know this when you

showed them to me but i found out later is that dlc for the ride it is paid dlc okay okay yes i'm not trying to shame you i just want to know how it works well so there's a paid dlc plastic toy one but i got the not compatible with the game but fancier 70 dollar ones that look like spider-man's actual web shooters in the mcu so they don't work on the ride no but you can wear them on the ride and still like point and flip around and and i seriously i was like a kid with a fidget spinner just pressing it over and over like oh it's whip whip but the ride is a game yes it's uh i i don't want to spoil the ride too much right right but if you've written toy Mania, it is in that genre. Toy Story Mania was fun for the first nine rooms,

but it was like, my finger hurts from yanking on this string. Well, Spider-Man will hurt your arms in different ways. Yay, tendon damage. But the theming of it is really great. I like seeing Spider-Man. Spider-Man's my favorite character. I was very dorky when the guy in the spider-man costume came out i was like photo with spider-man right now was he allowed to talk he was okay he

was and he was very good at doing the uh excited tom holland voice hey guys oh i'm so happy to see you hashtag spider-man put it on instagram they have those spider droids you could buy too yes yeah i wasn't gonna buy those how much were those uh also 70 dollars wow only 70 okay i thought they'd be more uh and also i got to see the giant spider-man well the life-size spider-man animatronic that jumps through the air that was really cool uh and yeah it's uh now avengers campus is fully open but we were able you can only ride the spider-man ride if you get the morning pass. So it is like the lottery.

You have two lottos to enter when you hit the parks. It was kind of hanging over us the night before. We're like, if we can't get into Spider-Man either day, this trip will feel like a waste. But fortunately, first thing, morning of day one, we got it. So yeah, it was a whole lot of fun. And it was just also awesome to go back to eat that ronto roaster that is one of my favorite foods in disney now yeah hearing about that on podcast the right too i do want to try it the impossible sausage one or whatever that

is yeah and the breakfast ronto was not on sale then i hope it's back soon there was so much that wasn't happening at disney but again it was nice to get a seat all to myself on pretty much or with my husband on pretty much every row we got in that was good we were i was trying to make it a tradition to go once a year that obviously covid got in the way of that so hopefully this coming february i will be there and well as as it has been said on twitter you have a marvel wife so you have to experience marvel marvel wife uh let's move on to talking simpsons comments uh so yeah let's talk about comments for skinner's sense of snow and this is from mr neal who says the christmas that almost wasn't but then was has some serious

babes in toyland slash marked of the wooden soldiers vibes to it it's a laurel and hardy vehicle where they're toy makers contracted by s Claus. In between some very funny slapstick are some really excruciating songs by Tom the Piper's son singing to Little Bo Peep. The overarching threat are a bunch of badly costumed boogeymen who thankfully don't dance like those in the Simpsons version. Not parodied are the genuinely nightmare inducing Mickey Mouse puppet. Producer Hal Roach was good friends with Walt Disney and the three little pigs whose costumes that look like they're melting it's in the public domain so babes in toyland

always got a lot of play on tv and cheap vhs tapes and i will say i think i might have seen it on a very dreary saturday afternoon as a kid yeah i feel like i've flipped to a channel and seen a terribly colorized version of it or something and i think my reaction was like why is mickey mouse a mickey mouse puppet why is he here i definitely would have hit the channel change button when the singing would start that's for sure yeah so i i think he's definitely right that it's a babes in toyland uh homage in particular especially in how musty and boring it is yet would be called children's entertainment in george myyer's childhood and that's why he would have been forced to watch that poor man uh so also on that episode batman boy 11 said

ontario in checking in here i've lived in ottawa all my life and for my entire grade school high school career i was specifically out in the countryside in peak winter let's say those days from december to february we'd often get a big downpour of snow every so often which would wreak havoc on the roads however since the school boards who determined when they'd cancel school buses and enact a snow day was downtown they would always have much better road conditions than out in more rural and suburban areas and there were far too many times where they'd say it was safe enough for a regular school day only for snow or freezing rain to make it so that we would be anywhere from one to two hours late on top of in a being in an already

minus 50 bus ride when we actually did get snow days they were always a blessing and i'm glad i finished high school long before the days of zoom so yeah it sounds like uh rough time in the canadian uh wilderness for that guy i don't know even where i don't know where this was but i remember uh you know as a kid watching the school closings i remember like one school system always closed down that was beaver township and i was like those fuckers from beaver they never go to school mom can we move to beaver township and i was like those fuckers from beaver they never go to school mom can we move to beaver i think beaver is like in southern ohio i don't know why we're getting their uh updates but yeah beaver you're on my shit list i guess they probably didn't uh we're such a small town they

didn't have any local news and so they're like well then we have to cover it for beaver on this channel too yes beaver tune in for your updates uh let's move on to itchy and scratchy and marge and joe moore says rather than taking a side on these issues i think the show's writers wanted to avoid standard story cliches about learning lessons and decided to reset to the status quo with a quote what can you do sort of shrug which reminds me of their response to criticisms about in a more recent episode i don't know why marge just gives up on marvin monroe confronts her though it's a classic false equivalency. Violence and natural depictions of nudity

are two entirely different things. Why does Marge seem to agree that both things must either be right or wrong together? It's a weird turn to say the least. I suppose the end message for both episodes seems to be fight for what you believe in, but don't always expect to win. Or maybe it was just a bunch of stuff that happened.

I think it ultimately becomes a bunch of stuff that happened i think it ultimately becomes a bunch of stuff that happened i definitely could see for the 1990 writers they're like uh all these shows learn a lesson like every crappy sitcom as the characters at the end go like yeah well we learned a lesson today so i i can see that's why they so actively choose to not take a side and just go like, you're fucked either way. And it's like, well, we're having this conversation. So isn't that fun? But I think the,

the cable one, which we recorded recently, but it hasn't gone out yet. The, the Lisa versus Homer and the eighth commandment. That's a similar story in which it's like, it's a conversation about a topic. Ultimately it's a bit muddy.

What the resolution is and what the, what the message is. But at least though, at the end of it, Lisa doesn't have to apologize. Yeah. I'm'm sorry i tried to do something like poor marge asked one put up with a very false equivalency and just agree to it of like i'm sorry i tried to change anything i give up you get what you want poor husband was hungry yeah that uh he was starving poor what do you expect him to do uh also on that episode some bloke says i never realized

this until i heard the audio clip in this very podcast episode but regarding the slightly too subtle satire of the pastoral sequence i think there's a bit of a joke with lisa's bird watching in certain parts of the u.s including where i grew up grackles are everywhere it's like being excited you saw a pigeon and yeah where i grew up there uh in atlanta or in the suburb of atlanta marietta we had grackles everywhere i was sick of seeing grackles you know what i did not grow up around grackles there are no grackles here but when i went to texas to see epic mickey 2 the power of two i'm sorry i think it's disney epic mickey 2 the power of two that's right the game that closed down that studio uh i was in texas austin for the first and only time in my life and i saw

lots of grackles and i was excited about grackles i'm like what are these amazing black birds i love them then i found out like oh those are trash birds like no they're so cute we look down on grackles here yeah no in the in the south well because i remember the first time as a kid i said oh it's a crow and my mom's like, no, that's a grackle. They beat your eyes. You know what? I like seeing pigeons. They're cute.

People will give them a hard time. Yeah, no, I'm actually kind of glad, though, how few pigeons I see now. I remember I would stay, I would be picked up every morning for the work shuttle at the old job I had 10 years ago. And there would be BART station pigeons there all the time. And I would just get sad of like, oh, that one ain't got a foot or that one is clearly in pain. They can get by with only one foot. I've seen lots of peg-legged pigeons walking around.

They seem to be fine. You're right. Yeah. Up next we have Homer, season 12, Homer, H-O-M-R. And Brian Field says, ask for dr joyce brothers i think the joke might have been that psychologists of her day did not like the idea of pop psychology dr brothers made psychology mainstream for much of america but the profession had mixed opinions on this change so homer saying that her credentials are highly suspect is him taking the side of

academic psychologists like an over-educated blowhard might in a conversation. Her degrees were from Cornell and Columbia, so I don't know what else he wants. And Lisa, this is Bob speaking, and Lisa is also guilty. Yeah. He's right. Yeah, she shouldn't have agreed with that. Yeah, that shows Lisa is too into credentialism, which like, yeah, Cornell and Columbia,

that's, yeah, I don't get that. I mean, well, that also goes back to the issue of that episode of like so wait is homer perfect by being smarter is he a smug asshole yeah no more people should have said to homer like lisa's excitement at his brains she should have said at some point like well also dad a danger of being smart is that you become a smug dick like don't be well if they had time to explore that plot for more than eight minutes, then they might have done more with it. And then what, are they going to not have the Animotion side plot

for all of Act 1? So, also on Homer, Purple Comet says, I worked at Sears after college for a year in the early aughts, and they pushed the extended warranties hard. We earned a higher commission off of sales when customers bought an extended warranty eight percent versus one to five depending on the item these sales were heavily tracked and if you weren't hitting your goals it was a conversation if i couldn't sell an extended warranty my manager instructed me to

call him over and he would try to sell to them until the customer gave him a hard no or they looked like they were on the verge of leaving without buying anything uh that's the worst i mean this is why the i don't think sears is dead but this is why these places died like this money grubbingness of it and the commission thing it was rare when i was a working young adult like in the early 2000s it can't exist anymore because um when i worked at a video game store uh commissions did exist a few years before i worked there but now at that point my boss was like your commission is you get to keep your job it's like oh wow 525 an hour thank you sir uh well you know commissions i guess exists for affiliate links in uh podcasts i suppose but yeah it's uh yeah you know i didn guess exist for affiliate links in a podcast i suppose but yeah

it's uh yeah you know i didn't work at a job that had commissions like that but when i worked at a blockbuster video it was one of those things of uh hey did you sign somebody up for the game pass or try to upsell them this you can never don't just let someone leave with a video and as we're losing money over here, I know. Well, I mean, they were, but I could have sold 8 million of those and that company would still be in the ground today. So I mean that also, you know, I have a lot of, especially men, anxiety of talking to strangers.

And I really just wanted to stick to selling them movies because that's why I worked at a blockbuster and just the pressure from my bosses of like no talk to uh the worst days i had to like put on an apron and walk around the store and talk to people like so you know this game pass is pretty great like i'm hearing good things about it i hated that so much because like you're walking up to somebody who's like i know i don't want to do this i know you don't want to hear this but yeah well it was that was like the uh the pivot to video for retail brick and mortar retail the early 2000s where i remember um going to like best buy or suncoast and i knew people who worked there and like they had to push like entertainment weekly subscriptions it was so demeaning it's like i'm coming here to like buy like uh mystery science theater dvd i don't want to buy a sports

illustrated subscription that's hard to cancel fuck you and you have to tell them like no seriously and they're like well it's like okay guy like i can admit i'm okay with after one no you drop it but like if i have to say no five times like i'm not coming back like nobody ever thinks about uh it never seemed like the managers ever thought about people who don't like being hard sold to don't come back to stores i can tell when i'm at one of those stores and i'm talking to a manager and not like a lowly employee because a manager will be much harder on you like i went to a game stop when there was one nearby and it's like okay when you go to a game stop at that point in history i don't know if they exist anymore but it's like yes they're going to offer you the strategy guide they're going to offer you to pre-order something that's similar they're gonna

offer you the scratch card all this stuff and the guy was like he was up front about offering all that stuff and i was like hey listen i used to work at one of these no and he still kept pushing it i was like you have to be a manager he's like i'm gonna break this guy no i've uh especially once you've been on the other side of being like a retail cashier you know that manager energy yeah the manager is like i'm gonna show them how it's done like that oh they look guys watch the manager is on the cash register right now you're gonna learn a thing or two he said i couldn't sell him anything but yeah i'm glad uh i'm glad that part of my life is over and i have some sympathy for people who are forced into those positions because I had to do that. So, so

much sympathy, yes, yeah. Moving on to Barkets Hit by a Car, David Giza says, and I clipped his comment a little bit but I did leave in the last half which I want to read, but up front, David is a real-life lawyer, so this is real-life lawyer advice based on this episode.

So David goes on to say, I think Hudson could object on competency grounds. So David goes on to say, I think Hudson could object on competency grounds. Is Marge qualified to opine on the quality of Dr. Nick's knowledge, testimony, or opinion? I would argue no. She's a lay person and what does she know about medicine? Burns could call his own medical expert to impugn Nick's testimony, but I'm not convinced Marge's comments about Nick's character could get at the quality of his statements or opinion. Now, could her testimony be used to impugn Nick's credibility not sure courts don't like it when parties call character witnesses to say he gives off an untrustworthy vibe that just opens the door

to a lot of he said she said bickering but maybe this would hold up in some as we knew from the outset hutz is a bad lawyer he probably could have made some colorful argument that marge's testimony be stricken or ignored yes yeah good good point from giza there but though also it's like well i nick riviera will if if marge didn't say it they just call it an expert written witness to be like nick riviera is a liar yeah and you're the case falls apart at that point anyway uh but yes thank you to david for the actual lawyer advice i really appreciated that real life lawyer insights uh also on that episode joe hodgson says i think the writers just found the easiest way out of giving the simpsons too much money i think if this story were tackled

in later seasons maybe they would win and the final act is in the smarmy makeup junk with Homer and Marge and instead we see how quickly Homer manages to piss all away and in an amusing manner this ending instead feels very season one-ish and almost ruins the episode this is one I always enjoy right up until the last act I guess we need to see Homer deal with the real feelings he'd have over his wife costing him a million bucks since he isn't written stupid enough at this point to get over it easily with a big sandwich or case of beer if they had just shown homer being angry and left it at that it probably would have been fine and my note on this was i thought of a similar style of uh problem for homer in a similar kind of ending which went a different direction in which

he loses a lot of money and there's a big tortured scene about you know marge do i love her she cost me all this money i was thinking of the episode the old man and lisa when lisa tears up burns his check and homer falls over cut to the hospital where he finds out how much money she actually tore up and then he has a heart attack and it's over see it's code blue homer is dead like yeah i that's uh that's a better gag of just homer you know it's not about emotions it's just about shock like it's shock value yeah i i just listening back to that i really love chrisman's point of homer he's like well no homer's just drunk he's just like drunk enough now to go like i love you baby my love for you will never die beer that's really what happens i yeah they brooks really wanted to just deal with you know the too much reality in it you know he was just like no let's let's

see what would really happen to a marriage if this happens like we don't have time yeah we don't have animation for this yeah and also lionel hutz is funny you're taking words out of lionel hutz's mouth with this with this uh lovey-dovey stuff enough screen time for him uh moving on to comments for what a cartoon yes we're talking about cool world i thought i was done with it oh god i've been talking about cool world since april but we have to talk about comments from cool world of the podcast about it so chris dobson says i think y'all are referring to the son of sam laws when you're talking about gabriel byrne making money while in prison he clearly still has a job and has been putting out these comics son of sam laws

just keep you from profiting off your crime not any income at all as prisoners do earn income below minimum wage if they work at the prison also shortly before the movie came out son of sam laws were found unconstitutional uh and the big case was the autobiography goodfellas was based on but there are still modified versions that require notifying the victim's family in most states. No rule stops you from writing bizarre comics about a horny cartoon character while in prison, though, at least not yet. I still don't think he'd be. No prison in America would let him have a drawing table in his jail cell. In a sharp pen.

Yeah, in a sharp pen. Also by himself. Like he just has an apartment in his jail in a sharp pen yeah and a sharp pen also by himself like he just has an apartment in the in the jail cell it's too nice and this is for a murderer like a killer like who got 10 years it definitely is a very uh different view of uh crime and the criminal justice it goes very unexplained yeah any part of his life like most things as we found out uh also boyd atkins the force says about that episode every time you guys mention holly dancing on screen i just hear the sea captain going yarr she'll be dancing for hours it's true and i wish i thought of that joke boyd while watching it because the amount of time she just appeared on the screen dancing like stop dance dance her little stupid conga line yeah i'm so done i'm so glad to be done with this movie i feel it was a real accomplishment that we did a huge podcast in the movie i read like the comic book to see

how it was different nobody put this much work into a cool world podcast nobody cared that much nobody would read the comics to tell you that like well here's what she we hear you can map out what the original script was based on this comic i will pat myself on the back for that podcast as annoyingly as it makes it to you and you you had to see all that horny holly stuff too much horniness for one man it stunk it stunk uh so up next we have der fuhrer's face the classic donald duck propaganda cartoon and a grant baxter says I thought a lot about how decades of pop culture we've had Nazis as these Saturday morning style cartoon supervillains like Indiana Jones are casually being the butt of jokes like in Family Guy, like you guys mentioned. And I think

it's really a key part of desensitizing the general public into not recognizing actual modern day Nazis and fascists because so many pop culture depictions of Nazis are so cartoonish. When you make jokes about fascists that aren't about their ideology and could just be substituted with an attempt at a comedic insult that can be attributed to anyone like their physical appearance or making up silly things they can do it might make people lose sight of why that person is actually awful to begin with and can be used as referenced by obnoxious centrists who you claim you're just making fun of them because you don't like them it's why i absolutely loathe things like all the snl trump stuff because it really felt like it led people taking trump less seriously as a threat oh yeah yes and that's true because um anecdotal evidence i know it's true but

when i was teaching um writing classes uh that is when tina fey was playing sarah palin on snl right and it was a very funny character but like when i would talk to my students about it they didn't really understand the fact that like no she's making fun of sarah palin like these were most some of the kids were bright this is a mostly bright class but they didn't know that it's like oh yeah sarah palin's a fun character and i think and i think it wasn't his fault it's not he wasn't setting out to do this but i think will ferrell humanized george w bush in a huge way like absolutely he's a fun character and i want to see more of him that's exactly what happened he wasn't setting out to do this but i think will ferrell humanized george w bush in a huge way like absolutely he's a fun character and i want to see more of him that's exactly what happened to trump

except they just had trump on the show the official george w bush podcast is called strategery it was like it was i mean yeah they uh and i i do think will ferrell is at least you know or easily he was uh friends and co-producers on things with adam mckay and i do think he realized like shit i made him look too nice or i made him the fun drunk idiot instead of like this you know war criminal monster and it's how that is how well america wants to forgive every president anyway no matter what and so we all could have predicted w would be dancing with ellen yeah but just to see it happen that fast part of it is like the defanging of him but but yeah when it comes to nazis like for our generation they were just like i probably saw my first nazi in indiana

jones and yeah not that indiana jones make nazis look you know good or anything but but they are just like this is a costume they are equal to stormtroopers i don't know their ideology they're just they're the bad guys and indiana jones is a good guy and in video games i remember it was like a common thing to say about uh first person shooters in the 2000s like oh another nazi shooter game i'm so sick of these now when you see a swastika it is genuinely shocking and they used to be like all over every video game where you killed nazis oh god there were so many toys like because uh as a kid growing up reading marvel comics like the red skull is uh right he's a nazi and he would just walk around with like a giant swastika on

his chest and it would be in in the comics in the cartoons like that's uh how settled nazism felt in our childhoods as well uh which less so now and i do think that part of it unintentionally from all these media makers did defang it a lot like it makes it independent from what the ideology was yeah i mean it's our next uh episode in the comment section but capital critters had a swastika in the episode they watched it's like what the hell also on that episode of what a cartoon lauren burnson says so the u.s fought against nazi germany so its citizens wouldn't have to work themselves to death slavishly salute a flag or deal with obsessive members of an insane cult gee i'm so glad none of those awful things are happening out here in 2021 absolutely not

yeah no i look don't think about it too much guys i yeah i uh well i i saw some other folks say like yeah well how harsh do you want this to be like it's it was for a mainstream audience and it's uh it was about our enemies in war and it didn't make them look good. And part of the point of it for Disney was to mock a scary enemy and to make them seem less scary. It did have some bias. Oh, sure. Yes. Yeah. Well, you know, for most Americans back then, too, I think it was harder for them to justify mentally fighting a white enemy as opposed to the Japanese.

Much easier to turn into like creatures when you're making a cartoon uh but but in general i really liked all those comments it was uh you know it was such a touchy subject dealing with world war ii it's also why like i just uh making about 15 minutes of that just the timeline of the world war ii in the simplest of ways just because i didn't want to miss anything or leave out context but i'm glad folks enjoyed that one uh so moving on to capital critters hat and mouse like cool world this uh made me upset it kind of made me a little sick at least it was shorter at least yeah and it wasn't horny i say never release it on any format just leave an incredible

youtube rips for the rest of time it's what it deserves yeah uh kaiser beam says returning this a few days ago was a frustrating experience the dissonance between the pretty good animation and the c-tier sitcom jokes made this a chore to sit through mixing some of the standard end of history politics that could have come out of rich white hollywood centrist boomers in the 90s and you got yourself a series that only gets more rotten with age and yet part of me feels like the show was made now would be 10 times worse it would be louder uglier crasser more stiffly drawn and animated it would just replace the 90s centrism with seth mcfarland style liberal posturing about how offensive jokes are actually progressive i mean yeah if catalogue critics happen now it would just look like the 800 shows that either look like a Seth MacFarlane show, Justin Roiland show, or a Bob's Burgers show.

It would look like one of those three things. And characters would say, so that happened. Is this like one of those things from that? And I mean, I don't like how Capital Cruise looked, but I like how it looks different than other 90s cartoons. It looks incredibly dated. Would you rather watch another episode of Capital Critters or Lil Bush? Oh, God. I honestly think Lil Bush might have better writing.

It has a Simpsons writer as the creator. Yeah, I think it actually does have better writing. But it's still not something I ever want to see. But put up against Capital Critters, Lil Bush by far. You know, I realize I'm talking ourselves into against Capitol Critters, Little Bush by far. You know, I realize I'm talking ourselves into being forced to do a Little Bush episode now, but yeah. What a great time to make a Bush cartoon in like 2007 or whatever. So Christmas Ape, also on Capitol Critters, said,

The thing I find most fascinating about these early attempts to ape the Simpsons is how no one seemed to understand what made that show work. Both Capitol Critters and Fish Police relied on high concepts and references to adult subject matter, but couldn't be bothered to write real jokes or come up with likable characters. Had these shows just been the product of Saturday morning cartoon lifers who were out of their element, that would be somewhat understandable. But as you pointed out, there are veteran TV people behind capital capital critters which makes it even more embarrassing yeah you do feel how patronizing the show is and that these people these tv veterans like how hard can this be i know that simpsons crap is a fluke i could write three

jokes and rub them together and make these dumb mice dance around dumb kids just like a drawing they don't care yeah no i mean well i i bitched about it so much on the podcast but nat malden comes off so bad in those interviews from 1992 like he comes off as a real jerk complaining about all the realities of making a cartoon show when he really should just be you know respectful and saying oh i don't know how to do this yes i'm out of my element not like you do what i say even though I know nothing about this medium. All of you ruined this for me. It was also funny to see from so many people on Twitter

when we tweeted out promotion for that episode of people saying like, this show is real? What is this? If you didn't live through 92 and the marketing blitz that briefly happened for Capital Critters, you would never believe it existed yeah it's just that lame i i hope you guys also on that episode really appreciate it

i pulled up the the clip of all of the abc stars having to promote the show like oh there's a mouse in the house ego it's the mice are here look balky that show's gonna kill us the last scene of it was tony danza saying to camera i'll show that mouse who's boss like so we found out who the boss was it was the damn capital critters i don't like that ending for who's the boss moving on to our final set of comments for sailor moon r mirror mirror we talked about the very canadian deke dub that we all fell in love with in the 90s and batman boy 11 says it's strange how unavailable this show is in canada anyway since there's no legal way to rent or stream this episode dubbed or subbed i'd be curious to check out more of it after these two what a cartoon episodes but

with hulu unavailable here i guess i'd have to hunt down some discs and i only included this comment to let batman boy 11 know and all of our listeners in canada know it's available on crave crave yes the streaming network crave you know when i go to canada i have to kiss a lot of my streaming networks goodbye no hulu no hbo max neen is worth it some women would not be well this sounds like the start of an ad for a vpn service all right nord where are you uh yeah it's you know that makes it kind of impressive that disney plus uh through the power of how much money disney has they're like nope all uh all borders are meaningless to us we'll just put it on everything yeah disney's like uh crunchyroll and funimation they're like uh we're we're a global

audience and i wonder what's gonna happen with crunchyroll they just got bought by sony who bought funimation so it's like well i know they spent a ton of money on an animation studio which made nothing yeah that just came out i just read a whole thing about how like wait they never put these out and then uh god there's there's that one show that the angry anime fans pre-canceled and it's like crunchyroll was like oh people people hate that this is an sjw show so we're not gonna put it out which like that seems pretty shitty to do real real real brave of you guys crunchyroll like then don't fucking okay a show yeah how far along does it have to go before you shut it down jonathan also says about sailor moon i have a real soft spot for the geek adaptation

of sailor moon it's a show that i enjoyed mostly in isolation as i had only one other friend who i knew watched it though i bet more did did that wouldn't admit it considering the severe time constraints i think the actors did a very admirable job some lines come out pretty silly or with a strange delivery but it's remarkably cohesive yeah you're telling me their timeline it's like i. I'm surprised it's as good as it is. No, to learn that from that guy's book about how the main reason the original Sailor Moon left was she was taking too long to do multiple takes to do it right. And he's like, no, you get two takes. Let's get done with this.

And I also like seeing all the comments of people uh multiple canadians weighing in of like what just sounds normal to me like you guys what do you mean about this story yes and i don't think my wife has a canadian accent somebody said that in the comments that was surprising to see i don't think she does at least not the toronto accent or whatever the hell they're doing in sailor moon sure yes yeah that's uh we're so used to that's what also is so interesting to me that it is the toronto accents not the vancouver accents we're used to in all of the ocean dubs we watched in our childhood not the alberta accents those are happening somewhere uh one thing i want to mention that i totally forgot about i did not include in these notes is that one thing happened this month a surprising find happened in that sammy has been recovered oh

yes that did happen the david spade animated sitcom sammy from the year 2000s two episode aired two are now available on youtube somebody some some magical wizard put them online you know what i still have not seen them but i'm just happy that that can now like reproduce everyone can just grab the sammy's online while they can. Sammy is not lost. That's so great that somebody got it on there. I watched like a minute or two of each one. It's just like David Spade is doing the same voice for two of these characters. That's weird.

Master of voice is David Spade. Yeah. But once you see those two, then it'll just make you more frustrated of like, there's 11 others that aren't there. Like, you know they produced 13. I mean, I don't know this for a fact, but the order would have, for a network order, would have been 13 episodes. If we're ever in LA, which will happen again in the future, and we're in David Spade's neck of the woods, if we see him coming out of a bar, just scream like, Sammy!

Sammy! Where's Sammy? You know, he probably wouldn't talk to us because we're not women it's true if we had a we need to have one female friend with us under 30 yeah under 30 yeah like okay talk to david spade and then we and say hey do you have that show sammy and then run away and run away once he hands you the tapes get the hell out of there uh but yes wow maybe someday we'll talk about old sam it could be someone could pay us to do it uh out of curiosity maybe i'll be desperate enough to watch sammy but who knows but yes that's been another episode of talk to the audience remember

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