Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - June 2023

Episode Date: July 5, 2023

We've reached the end of the month, which means it's once again time for another installment of our community podcast! Join us as we discuss dangerous Simpsons-adjacent submarine voyages, the continued adventures of the WGA strike, new comic collections that happen to feature our Wife of the Show, the slightly-altered July podcast schedule, and more! And, as always, we read and respond to your questions and comments from the most recent round of episodes. So join us for the last Talk to the Audience of our soon-to-be-fabled "Berkeley Era!" Support this podcast and get over 150 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, hoy, everybody, and welcome to Talk to the Audience, where this is always death. I am one of your hosts, Bob Mackie, saying bye-bye to Berkeley, and who is here with me today, as always? Soon-to-be resident of Mission Hill Henry Gilbert Hello, and in case you didn't know this is our community podcast at the end of the month on the patreon at the beginning Of the month on the free feed we go over what happened in the Simpsons world and in our world And then we respond to your questions and comments from the last round of episodes And yes, this is the final talk to the audience of what I'm calling the Berkeley era of talking Simpsons

A one chapter ends, another begins. Yeah, for the last five years, every podcast has been recorded in Berkeley, unless we were on assignment in Los Angeles or on a live show in Portland, perhaps. But other than that, and especially during the lockdown, everything has been in this one room in my Berkeleykeley apartment and i think you're going to hear at least two months worth of episodes in the berkeley apartment but after that it'll be the pacific northwest remote studios and then occasionally in person yes yeah we've uh we're we're going to be working all that out over time but this is the last community podcast here and i

guess you can look forward to in August at some point, I guess probably the last one in August, I'm guessing, will be the last podcast we record in this Berkeley studio. But that remains to be seen. We're still scheduling it out up until the end here. But the notices have been put in. We're leaving. But the movers have been booked. Down payments have been made. the uh we're leaving but the movers have been booked down payments have been made yes yeah apartment contracts have been signed with new old evil landlords have given

way to new evil landlords it's uh it's a fun time yeah but a busy time to also be recording two months worth of podcasts in a month yes uh but thankfully this is kind of a light month for talk to the audience i think most of the news is about us and uh changes that will be happening and things i'll be remaining the same just to update our listeners we'll get to that in a bit let's go over simpsons news the writers guild strike is still going on and recently there was a gathering of many simpsons all-stars from matt Groening to James L. Brooks to Conan O'Brien, Al Jean, Josh Weinstein, Dana Gould, and Matt Selman. And even friends of friends were there.

So, you know, even if they're not on the show, they're supporting the Guild and the Simpsons writers. So it was fun to see them all out there. And I would have liked to be there, but I feel like they wouldn't have wanted a fan in their midst. I wonder, you know, we would have had Julia be there but i feel like they wouldn't have wanted a fan in their midst i i wonder you know we would have had uh julia prescott was their previous guest on talking simpson slash writer of a simpsons episode that's the one thing we haven't done yet yeah that's an important stipulation maybe julia could you know if we were there like hey can we be your friends and carry a sign here but i you know i wondered like the more the merrier they'd maybe want us but yes they probably want to focus on their bat their totally reasonable battle for their demands of

the strike and they don't want friends gawking at that or fanboys gawking at them and saying like i'm at grading will you draw on my side i want to keep this forever yeah i mean they're caring about uh you know health care for their children yes yeah and if their jobs can continue to exist in a livable way and not be replaced by ai uh yeah no uh the the coolest thing is getting ahead of a future story on this podcast but uh josh weinstein was there and uh he said that he met guys that he hadn't seen in like 20 years uh at it who i i would assume that includes conan o'brien who we've we've heard from josh tell the story of how it was you know bill josh conan and dan mcgrath for like a month at the simpsons offices. It sounded fun.

I was thinking this could be dangerous for us because all of these writers gathering, sharing old stories. What if one of them thinks, hey, guys, we need to start a podcast? Oh, man, and they've got all this free time being on the picket line. Those office ladies are cleaning up. Yeah, I mean, they are. They're doing pretty good. Now, I hope Dana Gould doesn't think to do such a thing.

You know, he can barely get out one podcast a month if if i were to think julia prescott her being there especially if she could just talk all the simpsons writers into being on with her i think but it's just that monthly week that weekly commitment i don't think they could do it no no yeah they weren't they weren't raised in the podcast ecosystem they don't know what it's like. Also, they know the comfort of being millionaires or, in Berks' case, billionaires, I'd say, or close to it, I'd say. Well, yes.

We wish them luck. We support the writers and everyone who's unionized in the industry and people who haven't, who aren't allowed. There were tons of cool pics from it. Look them up. The Deadline has a good collection of them from all the fun that was happening there.

And Conan O'Brien had some funny stuff to say and seeing even james l brooks on the picket line was was really interesting to see and yeah oh and matt selman wore a bootleg bart shirt to it which was extra funny that's great oh and friend of friend uh and and voice of julio on the show tony rodriguez was there too taking pics that was really neat to see so so a lot of people have emailed me about this a lot of people have dm me about this and now i have to say to all of you listeners henry pack your bags we're starting a new podcast under the sea um also five people died uh one of them wasn't mike reese yes he's a survivor yes he's a survivor. Yes. He's a survivor of it. I'm sorry, that wasn't bad taste.

Yes, for about three or four days, there was a sub disaster in which the Ocean Gate sub went down to see old Mr. Titanic, but it was a garbage tin can made by an idiot. And a lot of people... Innovator, Bob. Well, I use a different synonym. And, you know, a lot of people uh well i i use a different synonym and uh you know a lot of people died i only feel bad for the kid really but um the the sheer hubris it almost 100 years sorry no more than 100 years later the titanic claimed more victims yeah i i'm stealing this from james cameron in the many interviews he did but he pointed out the like titanic the titanic is sunk because of extreme hubris and now a group of people die because they're like nah we don't need to take all the safety precautions we can do this and uh i mean yeah you know i also the name of it being ocean

gate makes it like it's already a a uh the news titles there already. They were anticipating a scandal. Yeah. And it turns out because, you know, Mike Reese has been famous amongst his peers and recently amongst podcast listeners for traveling around the world with his wife, doing things he mostly doesn't want to do. But he took four trips in one of these Ocean Gate things, once to the Titanic. And he claims that every time he went under, there were serious communication issues. How I don't understand why he did this more than once. When I saw the inside of that thing, after the news broke,

I had a panic attack just thinking of getting on that thing while it was not submerged. It's like the size of a minivan. There are no seats. You're just squatting on the floor. And there's like a little porthole in front of you that's maybe like 10 inch circumference i guess to that you look out for just a second like hey there it is that's the titanic or whatever yeah it turns out we have robots that we can send down there and uh they can take better pictures it it seems insane it i

mean it was insane like there's a reason people don't do that and like it was it was a gamble with his life every time he did it i mean there's there's a not too far off universe where mike reese is one of the sad lost passengers on this thing and forever we'd be like oh yeah remember that you know tragedy of the ocean gate well that's where one of the like most important simpsons writers ever died because because what he had to spend two hundred thousand dollars to go on this thing i mean 250k 250 yeah it's nuts man i i mean yeah it's uh and so this is how it came into our world i've had this conversation a few times with uh with with friends recently of saying like, yeah, we

barely want to know. All of them agree of like, I don't want to know. I'm tired of hearing about this fucking thing. It's sad. But like five people die every second in America for lots of reasons. Yeah. And then I was like, well, I have to know because Mike Reese says a ton of stories about it.

I mean, I really don't understand. Who are these Titanic freaks? Only one man deserves to have that title and it's James Cameron because he made of stories about it. I mean, I really don't understand. Who are these Titanic freaks? Only one man deserves to have that title, and it's James Cameron, because he made the movie about it. You find out there are these independent Titanic freaks who are still obsessed with that disaster. And it turns out, like, three of the people on that ship, or four of them, were Titanic freaks. I'm shocked that there are such freaks for the Titanic who then want the cheap version of what James Cameron does and lives with his life. He spent millions of dollars on getting a good thing that can actually go that low. And he's a weird nutcase in a fun way.

Yeah. So I have a USA Today quote from Mike Reese about the Ocean Gate thing. Mike Reese says, quote, It's always in the back of your head that this is dangerous and any small problem will turn into a major catastrophe, Reese said, adding that all four of his Ocean Gate trips had communication issues. Quote, That seems to be just something baked into the system, he continued. I don't blame Ocean Gate. I blame the deep water for that uh continuing reese also recalled that passengers set to embark on an ocean gate voyage had to sign a waiver mentioning the possibility of death three times on the first page to quote reese sometimes you do things knowing these risks and hoping for the best he said now i feel like mr reese has a bit of money poisoning because he uh i don't feel like he's taking this as seriously as he should but maybe he's thinking like with the hindsight of oh that could have been me yeah um but i also feel like from personal experience the less money i have the fewer risks i take so maybe once you

reach the stature of mike reese jet setting all around the country you don't consider this to be a major risk i mean he has done other risks like you saw that uh there was that video of him like on a waterfall and uh like right up to the edge like he it's i mean it's funny that he's an extremely rich guy and his wife kind of pressure or seems to the comedic ideas that his wife makes him go to all these places yeah i mean i think he does like it the podcast is called i think how did i end end up here yeah it's called yeah and he's but he's doing and hey talk about podcaster spirit the second the news broke before he was getting on all the interviews and stuff he tweeted i went on this thing last year here's my podcast about it that's what a podcaster does absolutely yeah cash in on death it's like hey whatever's in the news even some

people uh well he was in that magic uh time of like they might not be dead so it's not too ghoulish to promote on this thing i did read that like the way they died would have been like it is these is an implosion that they wouldn't have a second to even feel the pain. Yeah, you're just torn apart by the heat of a thousand suns the second that pressure can reach your body, and that's it. Yeah, you wouldn't have, your brain couldn't move fast enough to feel that in time. So, yeah, I do wonder if this will make Mike Reese reconsider or not the other dangerous things he does around the world.

But, you know, too, he's's not him and his wife they're a very childless rich couple like they probably are like we're not gonna leave like orphans like what do we care like let's just have fun this this really struck me I could only laugh at it not out of cruelty but one of my greatest fears is dying in a very stupid way and

unfortunately all of these people did and their deaths will just be jokes they died saying that thing will never kill me here i go into that thing goodbye everybody and then they're just going to be a footnote on a wikipedia page for the rest of their lives it sucks but it's just so dark you can only just it's all you can do is laugh it'll be we've recorded it already but it'll be like how this segway company owner died on a segway and it's all you'll ever know about him. Yeah. I mean, yeah, for the grieving family members of these people who passed away, it probably will be an extra annoyance that for the rest of their lives they're going to say like, oh, well, my uncle, father, whatever, died.

And they'll say, well, how did they die? And they have to go like, remember when you heard about that stupid sub that imploded well well uh that's i think the stepson of that billionaire is going to try to get laid based off of this event it definitely seems like there is some uh yeah that somebody related to a billionaire on there was definitely trying to get uh clout like social media clout out of it. But which is all we have. Like even the rich want the clout. And yes, because something in the news happened and there was something kind of similar to it on The Simpsons, we had a whole new slate of Simpsons predicted articles.

And yes, it was similar in the way that Homer was trapped in a submarine once but none of the details were the same technically I predicted it because I played steel diver for the 3ds in 2011 okay uh yeah no I mean there's they're not they're also like not in a tin can like like the Batman the animated series predicted it because in one early episode Batman gets sealed up in a steel drum and dropped in water like yeah but if like Mr. Burns had a undersea submarine tour that was shoddily built

and Homer went on it and you know it was all the other hubristic issues that were involved with Ocean Gate maybe it would be slightly convincing but in this case it's like no Homer and some other guy had independent submarines that were well built. But Homer got pinned down under some crap in the Titanic, right? Yeah.

Was it the Titanic? Actually, it wasn't even the Titanic. It was just on a coral reef. Like, yeah, it was just it was him and his. It's the episode where he thinks he has a real dad who's not Abe. Abe but the one that made me like right shut the fuck up media about this was the extra level was the New York Post which obviously like technically a major newspaper but also like shit is that

they not only had the predicted headline taken from that season 17 episode but they also conflate it with Simpson Tide in the article because they can say and the guy it was written by the guy who was on the titanic thing later and they say like of course homer gets trapped

underwater after getting the sub that he's part of the naval reserves and it like my blood was boiling and i won my husband goes on tiktok much more than me and that is filled with even more than twitter will show you people going like they predicted it i have to stay off the tiktok much more than me and that is filled with even more than twitter will show you people going like they predicted it i have to stay off the tiktok it just would piss me off too much but yeah um they didn't predict this because everyone on that episode lived yes also more important it's the more important thing right no it's uh god but it happens every time. I mean, the same day, like, David Merkin retweeted another article of, like, Simpsons predicted it, collective things. And every time I'm like, guys, this is the, like, I know that the way that the SEO system works is every outlet that is a website has to have an article called Simpsons predicted it. Like, I know that, but still,

give it a rest. I mean, I guess I want to believe better, but I couldn't believe that there are still new 30 ways Simpsons predicted the future. New articles, new ones, and they're just people rewriting, or maybe it's just AI rewriting

the same articles over and over. Probably, that's more likely, I'm guessing. Yeah, more likely. Now, but bob had the best who predicted it tweet out there for sure oh yeah and i can't believe it took me um two days into the disaster to realize this the get a life episode neptune 2000 features the main character chris peterson and his dad inside of a sub that he builds himself and they nearly die because they go in the shower to have fun as a father and son and

then they almost run out of oxygen they are trapped in there and nearly suffocate in the shower yeah but despite me tweeting about that nobody cares about get a life so they receive no traction but i feel like more people need to know if anything predicted the disaster to the point where a sitcom can predict anything it was that episode of get a life it's really too bad people did not bother to watch get a life on the dvd that it finally released and we and we need to direct more people you listen to her out there if you haven't heard our get a life episode that we did two years ago you have to listen to it because also it is do you like seasons five and six of the simpsons that's what david murkin was doing right before that and it is a clear line of that show from uh to the simpsons season c dead yes please

check it out and get a life uh other things that are happening that don't make us mad are uh well there's uh they've been re-releasing a lot of the treehouse of horror comic series via these hard covers the second one is coming out august 1st and uh wife of the show n of Horror comic series via these hardcovers. The second one is coming out August 1st and Wife of the Show, Nina Matsumoto's stories will be in it. Yes, yeah, it's coming out August 1st, the Treehouse of Horror Omnibus Volume 2. Finally, getting back in print,

these Bongo books for, Bongo was put on ice for a little bit, but now at least the archives are being exploited. Yes, yeah. Will the writers and artists receive royalties from these reprints no no they won't uh but hey at least at least more people will be able to see nina's uh images out there yeah i agree i don't know if those are even available digitally or not the her old stories i think they were for a time but not anymore i mean yeah you just have to you gotta well soon you'll be able to actually pay money for them but yes i uh i heard though you know uh i i think i had

heard that bongo did a better page rate than a lot of places back then uh but not that that gives you um this uh the sweetest plum of uh of royalties from stuff. Well, I don't want to speak for my wife, but I will. And she did enjoy working for them. No, it sounded like a good time. Check that out August 1st. And in other news, our friends at the Hard Drive website recently ranked every Simpsons game. Wrestling was worst.

Hit and Run was the best. Arcade was number three. And the 2007 game was number two and hey i totally agree with this and i'm glad that someone else finally wrote about every game i don't want to be the only one credited on wikipedia for these citations anymore finally someone else will be uh next to you on it they they definitely were on your side of like you know what camp deadly is not as bad as the other uh of that era yeah i haven't played wrestling and i honestly really want to say that uh bartman meets radioactive

man might be the worst but wrestling has to be pretty bad wrestling seems more broken than yeah radio versus radio or meets beta radio active man i i mean it shows my age too that i'm like no arcade's always going to be number one it's like well yeah because you were an adult when hit and run came out and you don't care as much like but like hit and run's probably better and they even another thing they gave i'll give pluses to hard drive was they actually gave a real review to tapped out in there they're like look there's a reason it's this successful it is actually it is actually fun to play it though it's a money eating machine really yeah yeah uh i i i tapped out on that game very early once i realized it was frankie acupay for that was even before frankie ac no yeah i never i've fallen for several um scam apps that have taken my money but not

tapped out that's and matt solman recently did an interview with Cracked and it's about being a modern writer and I guess semi-showrunner of the Simpsons and it was an interesting perspective because yes he joined in season 10 and even way the hell back then the thought about the Simpsons was a it's still on and b oh it's gotten so bad and I'm sure Simpsons podcasters we have to hear it but as a showrunner and writer he's got to hear it even more like at parties his friends his family members I'm sure they're like you're still writing for that that's just a lot yeah you're up for Seinfeld you're still writing for the Simpsons Matt Selman's like you're you're in the house the Simpsons built right now yeah I it was funny to read it and that yes that he is kind of the majority showrunner of the show right now which is is pretty interesting

that he's there and i i'm reminded too of when he did when he did doughboys they did a trivia contest uh a simpsons trivia contest of mitch versus him why you're asking the questions and they said these questions are limited to subjects from seasons one through ten and then someone's like oh good another thing that drives home that everybody thinks every season i worked on sucks i mean i will admit that a few things someone does uh it winds me up a little bit like the disrespect for canon but people are very roots him online and they do cover the that in this interview where i mentioned it before but matt sellman will be tweeting about an episode people will respond not knowing who he is saying oh that show's awful cancel it already and he's the guy who ran that episode so if you like look at his replies look at the people the

tactless people just saying oh fuck the Simpsons it's been awful for 25 years that does sound pretty horrible yeah uh through Julia Prescott we got to see a tiny bit of that of a uh a well-meaning fan added all of us and said hey what'd you think of that new treehouse i thought it was all right and it was the one she fucking wrote i was like don't add and she of course humorously responded with something like oh you know i thought it was okay but the new writer doesn't really know what they're doing like oh but i, something like that. I had a very, very slightly similar thing as a podcaster. And this happened maybe like last summer where someone introduced themselves and I was like,

oh, it's a fan. Cool. But they introduced themselves as, oh, I used to listen to your show all the time and I didn't know what to do with that information. Yeah. What the hell? Yeah. Like, yeah, you know what?

Just lie to me and say you still listen.'s like oh i used to love your show and i'm like yeah i'm still doing it used to like oh i used to be a patron like thanks okay i don't need to know that information is what i'm saying you can choose to listen or not just the weird thing i need to respond to yes yeah i guess but that's that's how social media has trained a lot of people i guess and uh henry wrote something about ai in the notes there's a bunch of simpsons irl as conceived by ai i mean ai it's making simpsons it's writing and directing flash movies what can't it do it's making opening credits for marvel series oh that's the worst that's the worst that's the new low but yes there was i i just wanted to say I'm sick of seeing these stories.

When I go to Google, quote, the Simpsons, unquote, and then the news tab, when the top seven are like, check out Simpsons IRL for my AI site. And it's, you know, some AI artist says they made, like, here's what the Simpsons look like in real life. And it's the shit you've seen eight trillion times, just a new version of it. I don't give a shit anymore. Yeah, I'd rather see that old CGI render of Homer from maybe like 2012 where it's like, what if Homer was realistic? Because an artist actually made that image. Exactly. Yes.

Yeah. A real person made it. And that was probably an image that got fed into that fucking machine that spits out this shit like no i i am sick of ai art to the extreme yes and i mean we mentioned the strike earlier we're also this is a month of bad news for animation shows are getting thrown in the fire they're being renewed but uh their first season's being taken off the air it's it's a really bad time pixar's failing yeah oh god it was a bad month for pixar and also even the movie that was

like good and you just want to say like oh but animation is still good of across the spiderverse then yesterday at the time of this recording their vulture has a story talking to animators who really like a hundred animators quit that thing because uh they mainly were saying phil lord's way of producing it made them waste a lot of time and man hours on things uh thanks to his indecision do you think being named lord gave him a god complex i think the oscar gave him a god complex i mean success makes you think that your way of doing things is the way to do it and that that article is filled with, they didn't get a quote from Lorde, but they did get Amy Pascal. She's produced Spider-Man movies since the 2002 Spider-Man movie.

And her feeling was a little bit like, welcome to Hollywood. And that's just what we hear with games of like, hey, Cots and Crunch is the only way to make a good game. It's not called friend business i just hate that that like oh no this if if it worked for the success and it sucks because i love phil lord's work i think i'm in in both are having uh in both of our what we've been watching i think we're going to talk a lot about a phil lord show we enjoy this month like i think he's still great he plays a super villain and he is one in real life apparently yes and also it's disappointing to learn that like they talk about the three directors of it but from the uh vulture article of the people uh using pseudonyms to describe it

it sounded like phil lord constantly overwrote any of the things of the directors and the directors were not it is phil lord's movie in all the calls he could make and just throwing out the practice of not knowing what you want until fully finished animation is made instead of like storyboards or even layouts that wastes like literally thousands of hours of people's lives and and it's not very fair to the people you're working with especially non-union vancouver based people sony pictures this was also i learned sony pictures animation based in america that's union but the real grunt work of animating across the spider verse was done in the vancouver based non-union sony pic no sony pictures image works that's the name of it well you know i'm probably

going to see it in vancouver and there's going to be a real stink on that movie i think by the time i get around to seeing it yeah it's true yeah but uh but yeah anyway i'm sick of ai stories and and i hope the sag might be striking soon too so if there's a duo strike of sag and wga i hope that turns up the pressure on those fat cats in hollywood yeah there's lots of video games to play lately we can just keep ourselves busy with those for the next 10 years two fucking many why no video games for three years and now every video game comes out this year it's uh boy we're being punished uh so yeah there's just a little bit of simpsons news this month but most of the news is about us. Yeah. But first, our schedule for July.

And of course, What a Cartoon comes first. And with What a Cartoon, we're returning to the world of Duckman and checking out the episode The Once and Future Duck. It is like everything, everywhere, all at once, but it stars Duckman. And I say that's an improvement. Take that. I love that movie movie by the way yeah no it's it is uh just like how that film was a tour de force for michelle yo uh that this is for jason alexander it's a great great episode of the show and it's just sitting on youtube for you to watch no no you don't have

to buy the dvds though hey the dvds are, and they're $20 or something. It's really cheap. Yeah, $20 for like 70 episodes of Duckman. I would totally take advantage of that. Yeah, the Once and Future Duck for Duckman is our What a Cartoon episode. And then we have our miniseries episodes if you're on the Patreon at patreon.com slash TalkingSimpsons at the $5 level. We have Talking Futurama, the episode Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles, one of the greatest Futurama episode title names ever. It's about the crew aging backwards. And we also have for Talking to the Hill

Pretty Pretty Dresses, the Christmas episode that's also about suicide. But it does a really good job with both issues. Yeah, I totally understand if some people are sensitive to self harm stories like this, maybe don't want to go into it, but i think we do uh i have a whole lot of fun talking about it and of course we

are mental health professionals so we're great at talking about i did one better help ad that qualifies me i it's but yes i i really enjoy teenage mutant leo's hurdles but pretty pretty dresses is one of my all-time favorite King of the Hill episodes I can't wait for it and yeah we're working way ahead because of our moves and

by the time this episode goes live you're listening to we'll have August a miniseries episodes already recorded that's right yeah we're getting way ahead yeah so we're not

you're not gonna hear us talk about the new episodes of Futurama until like the September September yeah Futurama maybe that'll be a new episode we'll cover. Oh I like that idea. So yeah and our What a Cartoon movie for July is going to be A Bug's Life. We decided for the rest of the summer of Pixar to do a few of what we see as the lesser but still interesting movies for a very good reason and we'll talk about that as soon as we go over our revised schedule for July.

So yes, in July, we're going to be going a little bit lighter on content because obviously Henry and I need time to move. In my case, it's an international move that involves a lot of other work that's more complicated than just moving to a new state. And if we lighten up on podcasts, that's less edits to pay for. And of course, Henry and I need to set up in new locations and buy new equipment and stuff. So there's a cost issue and there's a time issue.

And because of that, we're just going to be cutting back on a very few things. So let me go over how July will be different. So in terms of episodes that will be cut, there'll be no Talking Simpsons for the first week of July. That's the second week if you're on the free feed. And there will be no Talk to the for the first week of July. That's the second week if you're on the free feed. And there will be no Talk to the Audience the last week of July. That's the first week of August on

the free feed. Now, we really can't record a Talk to the Audience. That's most of the reason, but it also gives us one fewer thing to do before the move. But we'll both be in disarray by the time it's time to record the next Talk to the Audience. So there just won't be one in july for the first time but then in august we're going to double up on questions and news and everything so you'll be treated to a bigger episode then i can't imagine on july 23rd being able to do anything but uh moving stuff yeah yeah i guess i could record a live one from like hey the movers are walking in and out of here, Bob. But what did you watch this month? They're telling me to shut up and get out of the way. And yeah, I mean, we're also going to take off the,

you know, it is July 4th. So, and we're nothing if not patriotic. We love America. Yeah. So yes, no Talking Simpsons the first week of July. No Talk to the Audience the last week of July. And then you probably didn't know it was coming, but there was going to be a Blabin' About Batman in July

that's going to be moved to later in the fall but we're still going to be doing four episodes this year and we're having a slight change to what a cartoon movie for our ten dollar patrons uh we're still doing episodes uh i can actually spoil the august episode if you don't mind henry oh no let's say it yeah it's cars yes yeah so uh basically what we're going to do with what a cartoon movie is we're going to still do our full history segment but instead of doing a four to five hour movie segment with clips we're going to be doing

syncable commentaries just for those two months because that will save us a lot of time and productivity but you'll still get the podcast you're paying for it'll be a new and hopefully novel experience for you Henry and I have done about four or five commentaries for Retronauts, and they've been a lot of fun, so we've been training for this moment.

Yeah, we like the more relaxed air of it, but I mean, too, I like that we're doing it with Cars and Bugs Life because those are lighter ones as well. I mean, I could easily talk for four hours about bugs life if you challenge me too i'm sure but we'll we'll have a lot of fun and it cuts down on just how long we're gonna have to talk about say kevin spacey or whoever yes exactly yeah so uh yeah uh we're gonna be cutting back on a few episodes in july and then in july and august the what a cartoons will be a little different but you're still going to be getting what you're paying for

a fully research history segment and a very informed commentary for both A Bug's Life and Cars and then back to the normal format in September and then one final thing if you're listening on the free feed we still value you which is why on those days in which there are no Talking Simpsons

in July and August there will be miniseries episodes from both Talking Futurama and Talking of the Hill. So if you haven't checked out the miniseries waiting for you at patreon.com slash Talking Simpsons, you'll get a sample of both of those the second week of July and the first week of August

when you won't be getting the Talking Simpsons episodes you expect. So for the Free Feed folks, no interruptions. If you're on the patreon there'll be a few brief interruptions but we really hope you understand uh we have a lot going on right now we want to get back on our feet as soon as we get moved in yes yeah and i can't i can't wait till we're all settled in when you guys hear the talk to the audience at the end of august uh hopefully me and bob are both just like boy what isn't this a great new setup? It sure is.

Yes, I've never had a comfortable place to record from home in my entire 12 years as a podcaster. And I can't wait to have a dedicated podcasting room where I can have all my favorite knickknacks and pictures of my Simpson cells behind me. I mean, you guys have seen, i know on our instagram uh the last time nina was here for instance though they shared a picture she shared a picture of uh what our recording setup is which is basically in a dining table in my living room and so having a dedicated podcast room for both of us is going to be a big big upgrade and i've been in my current apartment for nine years and i've never decorated it because i always thought i was leaving i honestly do live in a men really live like this apartment no i have a couch i don't have a folding chair in front of a tv playing bloodborne

you don't sleep on a pile of clothes no no i do i have a bed frame and i have a bed and a mattress too so yeah no that's uh that's a step up from when i first moved my original uh single man way of living was like hey i bought a box spring i can just be on the floor like i don't need more than that i was actually thinking about my lot in life and how things are moving up for the for the mackeys uh when i first moved to california i didn't have a bed for four years four years i did not sleep on a bed for four years wow oh these you had a futon, was it? I had a piece of foam on the floor, and then I had a couch.

Wow. Yeah. And when I got a bed in 2013, oh my God, no, 2014, Jesus Christ. I felt like my life had changed. Man, how, and that's what it cost to be a games journalist back then, folks. That was the price paid. we couldn't afford beds we were when we were reviewing video games we were doing it from pieces piles of foam on the floor and they were like we don't pay you anything why don't you buy your own consoles oh right yes yeah you

want us to buy you the console those are expensive yeah anyways yes uh things are are doing well for us things are looking up for us they were never looking down really but i'm saying here we we appreciate your support and we couldn't be going to uh great new cities without all of our great listeners and uh thanks for keeping us going yeah we can't wait we just passed you know a six year milestone we can't wait to do a whole nother six years plus from our new era of Talking Simpsons that's one thing I forgot yeah six years and on our Patreon you can

see the amount of times things have been tagged with a certain tag and I'm waiting for the podcast tag to hit a thousand it won't be too long honestly yeah right now it's like at 846 or something wow so that means soon we will have posted a thousand audio files to the patreon and i hope the back end can support us yeah they bet the patreon better

keep upgrading things that yeah they they when we first started on patreon i think it was like what 120 was the limit it was definitely under it was definitely under 300 megabytes of of size for an audio now it's under 500 i think i think so yeah we had to uh some of our there were a couple movies where the length of our movies got so long that they had to be two parts uploaded and then fortunately not long after that they upgraded and you could upload something to like 500 megs or something once they realized like oh this is really just for podcasts they want it to be for we're banning all the porn oh yes yeah i was gonna say well it's for porn but no it's less so for porn now you know only fans they really saw an opportunity and god bless them yeah good good on them yeah yeah so now it's

time to talk about what we've been playing and watching not related to the podcast and yes of course i'm playing tears of the kingdom although uh i don't want to complain like oh i'm so tired up for my podcasting job but i've been doing a lot of podcasting and a lot of errands and honestly a breath of the wild no sorry tears of the kingdom is like the object rotating game and i can barely rotate an object in my head at the end of the day so i've been taking it very easy on that game i've mostly been playing uh i finished it last night actually the uh the visual novel mystery game paranormal site it's this really cool horror mystery game that square enix released in the spring it's about 12 hours long it's really cool and it does some interesting things with a low budget uh presentation that i thought like oh this should be the standard for all of these kind of

games for the future that's cool i you know i've barely touched tears though i've been quite a gamer this month but tears you just put it together so well why i think i've had trouble because the brain power for other games is different for like for tears the kingdom to glue together all these things it was like just turning the board at the start of the game in a circle and gluing a thing to the side it was like just turning the board at the start of the game in a circle and gluing a thing to the side it was like oh wow man this this seems like a lot and then of course you feel i feel a certain like i'll never be good enough to build a gundam or whatever that you see online of some of the shit people have built the good thing about that game is that you can

really brute force your way through uh situations it's also the oh my god i can't believe that work game yeah which uh i definitely felt that at breath of the wild so i i want to continue that i i'll i'll make time for tears though then again when will i with all these games coming out uh well you have to finish your old games i've seen how many hours henry has on Breath of the Wild, and I'm ashamed of you, Henry. I know, I know. Look, stuff happens. You've got to keep those numbers secret. I should have switched on to that, yes.

If you could see my hour count on Marvel Snap, you'd be impressed with that. I'm saying there's 100 hours of Breath of the Wild waiting for you if you ever want to go back. All right, I should finish that first and then tears. We're also about halfway through our lives if we're lucky so you have to really figure out what what you need to prioritize here that's true yeah unless we get into any subs that's right no i intend to live forever bob oh yeah so i i don't need to make choices i need to figure that

out for myself uh so yeah not a lot of gaming this month i've been watching uh still going through better call saul i think i can finish it by the end of the week because I'm at the middle point of season six, which is the last season. You're really zooming through it. I've been watching like one episode a day with dinner. It is such a slow burn, but it really pays off. Like everything really pays off by the end of season six.

I'm really enjoying it. Well, now you're really be ready for Incredibles 2, which features Bob Odenkirk and jonathan banks in in big roles i i now i really want to see that movie so yes i've been going through the rocky sequels as well and i saw rocky three and i didn't like it very much um it reminded me of creed three did i talk about this last month i can't remember we talked about this in person but i don't think so it's it's like uh it's really weird in that um creed 3 had the issue that i had with this movie and that rocky's about rooting for the underdog but now they want you to root against the underdog

and the way they make up for it is making him a cartoon character well i mean mr t is good at that yeah yes but it's like you learn nothing about him. Clubber Lang emerges from Toontown to kill Rocky. Well, and also like it's the start of the practice in Rocky of killing off supporting characters from previous movies to give Rocky something to fight for. You know, they kill off his trainer. And then basically he has to be trained to fight like an African-American. Yes, that's exactly what I was going to say.

Uncomfortable racial element to this movie where it's like, I must fight like the black man. So he has to go to an inner city gym in LA. And it's the only black people you ever see in the movie outside of Clubber Lang. Yeah, it's a bit much. And they're like, yeah yeah we'll help you so now that you've seen this movie well i guess you got to see four to know the other side of it but in the first creed movie they tell you who wins the fight that ends the third rocky movie oh okay because remember they have their rematch ding ding and then they start the fight and then they never say who wins but then in the creed movie rocky tells donnie creed uh who who won the fight but it's

yeah it's funny you're going kind of backwards uh from seeing the creed movies and then seeing the original rockies you know there's this amazing line that mickey says in rocky 3 that i never hear anyone quote in my life and it's mickey he says you ever fight a dinosaur kid they can cause a variety of damage what yes he says you ever fight a dinosaur kid that can cause a variety of damage because he's like he's a dinosaur he's calling calling the other boxer like a terrific beast. I see. I mean, Rocky III is a favorite of boxing fans because it is the story of the champ gets soft and then has to find his fire again,

which is also the plot of Creed III as well. But Creed III, that's on pause talking about that one right now. Yes, it is. Yeah. And I saw Palm Springs for the first time. Not knowing what it was about, I'm not going to tell you folks out there what it's about. It's a 90-minute movie. It's a good comedy.

It came out during the worst time a movie like this could ever come out. Because let's just say it's about kind of being stuck in a rut. And a lot of us were when it came out in spring of 2020 and every letterboxd review reflects that yeah I was a lockdown watcher of it and it was a bit much so I I am jealous of your fresh eyes seeing Palm Springs

outside in a free world yeah I at first I was skeptical because I was like oh this I've seen this premise before but they find new things to do with it. And I was impressed by that. But again, I don't want to give away what it's about. And a great cast.

Yeah, very good cast. So Palm Springs recommended. I also saw Mona Lisa because Henry and I just saw Roger Rabbit in theaters. I'll let you talk about that, Henry. I'll let you. You can talk about that during your segment, Henry. And I was like, you know what? I've seen Bob Hoskins in Super Mario Brothers and in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

I should see a movie where he talks like a regular man, where he talks with his accent. So I saw Mona Lisa. I do recommend it. The ending's a little weird, a little kind of a tonal clash. But it's a mostly lighthearted crime story where Bob Hoskins, he was sent down the river by a crime boss. Basically they pin the blame on him easily. He gets out of jail looking for work. He ends up being the driver for a sex worker and they have a,

a rocky relationship that develops over the course of the movie and he's great in it. Man, I, that's a Neil Jordan one, right? Yes, it is.

Yeah. See, I've seen the, the crying game, but I haven't seen Mona Lisa. I should see that one. There's also The Long Good Friday. I don't think it's Neil Jordan, but it's another Bob Hoskins criminal movie.

Have you seen Brazil? Yes, and I forgot he's in that, right? Yeah, that's the only other pre-Roger Rabbit Bob Hoskins movie I could think of. Also, a post-later career one. Boy, this is another one where it's like oh yeah it's luke basson's involved another horrible monster but so i feel we're complimenting it too much but uh i prefer its international title and i'm gonna call it that because i forget the oh yeah i believe it is called unleashed everywhere else it's jet lee movie but i prefer danny the dog it has its name and it's where jet lee is like you know this

this kill uh he's a assassin for um for a crime boss played by him about played by bob hoskins except he is a uh a an abused man who is treated like a dog by him and and it's about him finding his humanity and fighting and the so the evil crime boss is bob hoskins okay he's really good at it he plays uh a lovable sweetheart in this movie and i did like him in it he's uh i mean i just want to give him a hug uh i will say i i was surprised he he's remarkably handsome and i'm used to seeing him playing like rumpled guys like yeah, not Danny DeVito, like Mario and Eddie Valiant, but it's like, oh, he's really put together.

Like, he's a good-looking guy. Maybe when you see him in the context of just only other British people, you're like, what a handsome man. That could be it. That could be it. His teeth looking good. Looking good, Bob Hoskins, RIP.

And I also saw the kid detective it's another 2020 movie that came out during a nightmare time so no one really remembers it but it's a very canadian movie uh starring adam brody and based on the premise i thought it was going to be like that movie uh mystery team do you recall this movie henry no no i don't remember it's the derrick comedy movie with um okay now i remember yes danny glover no sorry donald there you go yeah and it's like oh the kid detectives are now in high school and it's like kind of a spoof on the genre or whatever right okay yeah i remember that um and i think it's like the other derrick comedy guys were like workaholics writers yeah no it's dc pearson and

dominic durkis who i've been on podcasts with and we're nice guys. I thought it was going to be like that, but it's not. In fact, it's like a much more realistic take on that premise in which Adam Brody was like an Encyclopedia Brown style kid detective. And that's clearly where he peaked in his life. And the rest of the movie is a meditation on his failure as an adult as he tries to solve a murder. Oh, so it's a gifted kid syndrome movie yes okay i like this uh and surprisingly dark surprisingly dark but uh i think it was totally a surprising movie and i didn't know about it until nina wanted to watch it i'll give you know i'll add that to the list though mona of all the ones you watch this month that i haven't seen mona lisa should be my top one for sure it's

definitely recommended also more new Beavis and Butthead still really good and I finally got around to watching new Clone High yes it's still very good one thing I'm not seeing anyone talk about is how good the show looks because it doesn't look like any other adult sitcom that's animated on TV right now and that is uh refreshing but it's also executed very well in that style. I don't see anyone talking about how great the animation is, and it's disappointing. It's really too bad, yeah. I mean, I haven't tweeted all that much about it because I don't want to spoil jokes in it because there's so many funny jokes.

But yeah, you're right. It doesn't feel... I've watched... There were two episodes that dropped this week that are the end of the season. I haven't seen that yet. Also, what's with these two episode a week drops? Stretch it out. Make it a week at a time.

Yeah. But this is fucking Max, so, you know. Yeah, I thought, like, when did it start? There's suddenly 10 episodes. But then, yeah, I realized it was two a week. Paramount's one a week with Beavis and Butthead. But, yeah, I follow several artists who work on it on Twitter. And they're younger people who take a lot of pride of like,

when we design these new characters, we wanted them to feel a little newer, but still definitely within the same UPA-ish style of it. And they said, too, that they barely redesigned Cleo, Joan, and Abe, and that JFK had no redesign except for his collar this collar is the only thing that got redesigned from it so he's exactly the same but yeah i love the new season there is a bit of these people have smartphones now comedy but it's handled better than i've seen pretty much any of these uh reboot cool seasons have it it makes you think wow 2003 was a very long time ago and i was an adult then i hate that yes i hate that i mean we're as old as scudsworth is

in the show now with his with his little streak of gray and i mean and credit to lord and miller as voice actors too that scudsworth still sounds like scudsworth i feel i feel bad for now a 50 year old man having to scream as scudsworth all the time and hey will forte in his 50s having to scream as abe and he he sounds slightly older to me i feel but he's still great of course he's great n Sullivan has stayed she stayed a little more youthful though even though she is like I listened for when we covered Kim Possible she talked about how like she surprised her voice sounds the same for when she played Chigo then because she doesn't smoke all the cigarettes she used to smoke back then when she was doing Chigo or doing uh Joan of Arc yeah I really missed hearing her voice and she's great too

so yeah i really recommend it i'm really happy it looks good it's as funny as it used to be and the voices are good and i like the new characters frida kahlo and harriet tubman just like how all the other characters their designs are immediately funny they nailed it with those characters too yes oh and and confucius he's oh he grows on me oh too. Oh, yeah, and Topher Buss. Topher Buss, yeah, they're great. And I like how they wrote off problematic characters in a funny way. Not just Gandhi, which is dealt with in the first three minutes of the episode, but also Toots. Toots as well.

And the clone teacher, the clone sheep teacher played by Andy Dick. Oh, yes, he's in the canceled corner. Yeah. Now, oh, and I like how they recast Cleo, who the actress for her is great. And then the original Cleo voice actress gets a brand new major character who's important to the series. Oh, I didn't see this yet. Yeah.

Yeah. That's cool. Cleo is not the woman from the Drew Carey show, whose name I forget, the lead actress on that show, but who's also married to Bill Lawrencerence the co-executive producer of the show but yeah no it feels it feels for real to me oh and uh the last thing i'll say about the new clone high that i love is that we've seen the other shows that when they get into the streaming age with these things they have to reshape the show to make it work in streaming with constant cliffhangers clone high already did that so it is still just them continuing with overarching stories of love

and stuff like it doesn't feel unnatural it actually is incredibly natural and one thing i noticed is that it's not designed to be aired on tv every episode is about 26 minutes long so that's nice it doesn't feel like they're taking too long to tell their stories, but when I watch Beavis and Butthead, it's like 19 minutes long because it's designed to be put on TV later. And there's 10 minutes of commercials now. Oh, man. That is sick.

If it's on cable, that's terrible. But yeah, I'm glad we're both loving the new Clone High, though you're going to have to sneak them into Canada to finish watching the series. Oh, don't worry. They're on a a hard drive as far as other things no no i have been uh doing nothing but podcasting and not seeing my wife for six weeks but i'm actually heading to vancouver a few days after this goes live to get the keys and then close on our condo and uh i'm very excited about that uh it feels such like an abstract thing right now,

but soon there will be a space that will be mine. It'll zoom out and this is all just a fever dream from April 2020 and we're still trapped in the- No. That would be a terrible twist ending to our podcast. And I have a very big patio and you're all invited. Oh boy. I think I can hold everyone.

BBQ at bob's yeah i don't i've never had a patio i don't know what i'm gonna do with it the extra b is for bob it's not a typo uh well so my month uh i've been it's been a big old gamer month for me because i got uh a a friendly pal gave me a copy of diablo 4, and so I have been, you know, I mostly come off as a Nintendo fanboy weeb, not the type to be a Diablo player, but I actually played the crap out of Diablo 1 and 2, skipped 3, played a little games like Torchlight that were Diablo-esque by some former Diablo people, and then Diablo 4 is coming out, and I'm hearing, well, I play the beta, and I'm like, oh, shit,

this is getting its hooks in me. And especially it works great in a long-distance relationship where we can just open up FaceTime and then be playing Diablo cross-console like he's in PlayStation, I'm on Xbox. Oh, that's nice. And we're playing Diablo 4 with each other. And I, of course uh as the the beast guys the the big hairy the big hairy boys that's who i wanted to be as yeah all i can

add is that i worked in a game store when diablo 2 was big and i heard i've heard the word diablo pronounced about seven different ways diablo i think dabolo is my favorite and uh but that was just one of the huge games that coming out this month because street fighter 6 came out my husband is big into the fighting game community i have never and i played a lot of 2d and 3d fighting games with the pals back in high school and college but haven't really given much time to it and definitely not in the modern age of fighting games post street Fighter 4. I just felt like I'll never be able to be as good as somebody online.

Why bother? But he has been coaching me. I have been learning a lot. Also, Street Fighter 6 has modern controls now, which is made for Smash Brothers people like myself. You mean aging people? Yes. With our old joints. Like, you want me to do a quarter

circle not anymore in this economy yeah instead it's button plus direction just like in smash brothers and and real pros play modern as well they actually like it like it i so that way i can just focus on strategy and he has been coaching me enough that I actually have had a few ranked matches where I see through the matrix, like the field. Well, not exactly, but it's like this feeling of, wait a sec. He did a combo and now he has run out of frames so I can punish back with a combo. Oh, and now I did anti-air. I'm doing the things that they say on the street.

Henry Gilbert playing competitive games online? Yes. Has the world gone topsy-turvy? It has gone topsy-turvy. My husband is very happy I'm playing Street Fighter. I'm really enjoying the game so far, playing it a little here and there online. And it's single-player mode that rips off Yakuza actually pretty good. Oh, wow.

Yeah. You know, the reason I know it's out is because lots of very horny art of Cammy and Chun-Li has been popping up on Twitter. And I'm like, what is this? Why is all this fan art popping up? Oh, it's not fan art. It's in the game. Oh, yes.

And I'm not complaining. No. And, well, and i like that it plays fair with the sexiness of all of the characters oh absolutely yeah i mean i've seen a new influx for sure of of of ones for zangief as well and also uh though my favorite to play as of the new oh and ihonda look if i were to date one of the street fighter characters i'd want it to be ihonda he owns a business and he's a sexy big boy but my favorite character to play as in the new game is marissa the big uh step on me mommy of the game

who everybody loves but like the giant super buff uh gladiator lady well uh my wife is a kickboxer so in a way i'm actually dating a street fighter character you've got a chunley at home yeah now or well no uh sagat that's the style she does muay thai so it'd be sagat you've got but so that's i've been playing i did tears uh talked about that i played the final fantasy 16 demo and i did like it i actually was like oh this is good but i will say the reviews that say that it falls apart like in the last act like final fantasy games tend to do every final fantasy game yeah i guess that means that it is a real numbered final fantasy but yeah and though also i it's not even that i'm a big game of thrones fans but i know

game of thrones and at the start of it I'm just like almost like one-to-one characters from Game of Thrones here like yeah I think well I don't have time for this uh so I'm gonna wait for it but uh I've been hearing things like the PS5 version it's exclusive right now it's a PS5 exclusive I'm hearing there are a lot of frame rate issues with this game and that's inexcusable if it's an exclusive for a console that's almost been out for three years I mean what are you doing yeah I inexcusable if it's an exclusive for a console that's almost been out for three years i mean what are you doing yeah i this you're right it's been out for three years this thing needs to be settled but at the very least it's it's got good combat i do good combat yeah

i do want to play the demo before i pack up my ps5 but uh yeah well i can't even play the ps5 is in seattle so i played the demo i haven't started up yet and I've been playing a whole lot of Marvel Snap it's spider verse month in it so there's a ton of new spider cards that I've been uh purchasing and uh and lastly in two days comes out the game I've been waiting a long time for and it I hope it's good the AEW pro wrestling game that is that uh is supposed to hearken back to the days of the aki wrestling games like no mercy and virtual pro wrestling that were my favorite wrestling games growing up the it's supposed to feel like it it has been their intention they've been working on it for four years and it's finally coming out and i really hope it's not a piece of crap four years wow wow

yeah they they announced it too soon quite honestly is what they did but it was like i am part of the problem of them having to announce it so soon because eight years ago i interviewed kenny omega and asked him about how much he loved the hockey games and how it inspired him as a game as as a wrestler and then he said i want to make this game i wanted to make this game forever so as soon as they got aw existed and he worked there he had to go like yeah i would like to make a game and then it's like he said it enough that people believed it so like we gotta announce it early but but anyway so those are the games oh wait i have one game I want to plug, actually. Upcoming games. I'm excited about this. I'm going to plug a game called Master Detective Archives Rain Code.

It's by the guy who made Danganronpa, and it's the first game he's really made by himself. Well, not by himself. It's the first game he's directed on his own in about six years, and I've been really looking forward to this. The last game he made was with a bunch of other people. It wasn't that good. This time it looks like he's been given a real budget,

and it's out on the Switch on the 30th of june i'm very excited about it that's awesome yeah i didn't know i because yeah when you said it's his first game in six years i i haven't touched a game of his since the dongarapa series but i i vaguely remembered advertisements of the next game from the dongarpa guy but now now i see that it's sort of not true yes this this one is from him and it's called rain code and it has the same artist and the same uh musician so well there you go i'm very excited about it and uh for watching stuff i saw shin common writer in the theater as part of its one night only thing um it it was no shin godzilla but also i don't have a love of shin of common writer that i do for godzilla so i understand that but it was really good and it was extremely hideaki ano like uh you believe you me was there a big titty character talking about her

boobs yeah but she is not on screen long oh but what are we doing yeah there there is a big titty character yes yeah but um uh and i also saw across the spider verse sorry talked about that but it's really good it it broke the backs of all those vancouver animators but hey you can't uh you can't argue with quality um and then on the other side of the coin of superhero movies i watched watched The Flash because... Okay, let's hear it. I only wanted to get away from The Flash. When I saw this on Letterboxd, Henry, I thought, Henry, how could you?

I gave it one. You supported Ezra Miller's crime spree. Look, here's what happened. I was in town for one weekend only with my husband. We wanted to see a brand new movie, and he's like, let's just's just do it well there's only one movie you could ever see in theaters we wanted to see the hot new movie while it was out it's it's a hot it's a hot movie now no it's it's trash it's it's bad i regret it i especially because i did not know the end of the movie is a insult to life itself and and truly a horrible thing to do i didn't know about the end of the

movie and i guess we won't spoil it until uh i heard the recent chapeau trap house about the movie and i thought like why was this not publicized more it's a crime it's literally a crime like it is it is digging up corpses level it's exhuming bodies for horrible yeah there's but there's like 20 minutes in it i'm like okay but obviously of course ezra miller is like i how did this movie even get released it's insane they got released it is it's the end that it is less successful than black adam like that's also funny like this everything's falling apart in the dc universe it's terrible and also it's like oh it's a flash movie what's terrible. And also it's like, oh, it's a Flash movie. What are you watching for? Well, there's like three different Batman in it,

and you're going to like that. Hey, there's two Flashes. Yeah, there's two. That they were like, we need to have two Ezra Millers on screen all the time. People love this person. Yeah. But to end on a quality note here,

we did get to see who framed Roger Rabbit for its 35th anniversary in the Castro Theater. And it wasn't just any old screening. They got, and I don't know how they did it, out of Disney, the original archival 35 millimeter print. We were watching the same prints that were being watched back in 1988 in a theater the way it was meant to be seen at the Castro Theater. Well, I don't want to blow up anybody's spot here, but it was heavily implied that somebody from Pixar was responsible. They just said local animation studio. That could be anything. Oh, the one that is still here?

Well, especially because that was just the start of it. Also, Charles Fleischer was there, and he was in total Charles fleischer form of barely answering questions and being all over the place and he only did one voice that made you go like oh oh charles it's not 1988 anymore it's it was a real rob williams kind of maneuver there i mean he's from the same generation of comics and i'm pointing to my nose for some reason yes uh but he but yes the then the real treat of the night was that a certain unnamed person at some animation studio in san francisco or the bay area had the original prints of the first three of all three roger rabbit shorts we got to watch them in eight millimeter on the big screen uncensored like unlike you'll see on disney plus

and i i also think it's probably pixar because caps worked on the third one oh yeah yeah it wasn't in campaign so but yes i mean will that ever happen again will they ever like those shorts will they ever be screened again in 35 millimeter anywhere i officially i bet no i would bet against it it was an incredible experience i mean uh seeing the theater a but seeing a film print b then seeing the shorts c uh it just all came together and yes i saw roger abbott in the theater but i was six so this was the first time in 35 years that i've sat down in a theater to see a film of it being shown to me and yeah i i saw dick tracy and honey i shrunk the kids so i saw the first two shorts in theaters but i never saw

a far-off place in theaters because who would so this is the first time i saw a trail mix-up in theaters me too yeah no i didn't see uh yeah i did see the other two but not trail mix-up i it was it was great it was such a great night and you know the castor theater is going through some stuff but it was really great to get to see something one more time there and it was pride month we were surrounded by happy homosexuals everywhere which was great as ed and did my husband came to town and we the next weekend this weekend and we we had some more pride fun which was good to do. And lastly, speaking of things I did with my husband, if you were at the Seattle Mission Hill show, thanks for saying hi to me at it. It was a lot of fun.

And if you weren't there, see the Mission Hill live show when Bill and Josh come to your town to show it. I believe they haven't announced dates yet, but they gave the impression that there are more shows coming. This was just their spring tour wrapping up at the very end of the spring and they did two shows it was their first night of doing two shows back to back ever they did basically from 7 p.m to midnight so they were they were uh showing stuff and they showed six episodes we watched six episodes together and then they told some fun yeah That's like half the series. It was really fun. Bill and Josh were telling some fun stories, a couple we hadn't heard before. And I didn't win either trivia contest in it because their last questions on each of them were questions about the unfinished episodes so they're like in the uh in this unbroadcast episode what was the food that

jim really wanted to get when they're in the uh the car ride together like he's like guys i just got to go here and get food and i couldn't remember the name of the food item either i think we're the only people in history to have done podcasts about those lost episodes i felt embarrassed that i i could tell him, like, I forgot it was chicken dipsies was the answer. Hey, but we won the trivia contest at Roger Rabbit together. We did, we did. Yeah, it was.

And it was a team effort. It really was, yeah. But yeah, they showed the things. It was great to see Bill and Josh. I think they loved hearing people laugh at the show together and they they also signed my original script of I married a gay man from outer space which they were they were like how

did you get this like how could these possibly be available anywhere and Josh Weinstein was like I could have just given you one he did tell me that like you know I've got more of these in my my garage he should loan us all of his table read scripts so we can just scan them and send them back just for the sake of history. All right.

We're going to fly down to Burbank. Next Burbank flight. No, I guess Santa Monica. We can just pay him for shipping. How about that? Oh, sure. Okay, fine. So anyway, yes, that was my month.

Okay. We're going to move on to Talking Simpsons comments. The first set of comments are from the Look Well pilot. In Dilly, Dylan says, For the record, Look Well wasn't the first TV show to star the Adam West we know today. In 1989, Nick at Night aired a pilot called Cartoon Lost and Found, which, like Look Well, only aired once. West played an older version of himself working at a secluded office, reminiscing and showing off the classic cartoons from his childhood. The pilot was thought to be lost lost but resurfaced back in 2020 a fun simpsons connection is that this was the first

writing credit for spike ferriston who later wrote sideshow bob's last gleaming in season seven he was also a writer on seinfeld space ghost coast to coast and letterman just like conan he was the host of his own late night show fox's talk show with spike ferriston and this is bob speaking we we covered all of that in our writer's corner for him i believe in that episode yeah that was a bit ago yeah that was like three or four years ago though i had not heard of this cartoon lost and found that yeah it's that does predate the look well thing but it does it being 89 it does line up too with what conan was talking about in his interviews of saying like there was a real thanks to batman 89 with michael keaton uh being such a success that adam west like got brought back like people like wait

he was great let's remember that and to doing that in 89 also speaking of things that are an insult to life in itself what poor michael keaton i mean no he shouldn't no he took the job he got paid i shouldn't say it wasn't forced upon they all go to movie jail now i mean uh george clooney michael keaton uh well the only thing that saved val kilmer was uh being near death god that's a sad way to put it but yes the machine couldn't claim him he'd have been in this and oh you're not marketable sorry and you're not dead yet, so he can't get your, you know. Blue ghost to show up. Your likeness allowed in this thing.

God, no. Also, I have a feeling Michael Keaton agreed to be in that movie when the ending was a very different movie, and then he'd be in another movie after. And then by the time the actual movie, The Flash, came out, everything changed about what his character was going to do in it. But it's, yeah, that movie sucks. Damn shame. Yeah, if you want to see Cartoon Lost and Found, it's on archive.org.

I did watch a bit of it. It's just basically him doing bumpers. He's not quite as deranged as he is on The Simpsons or Family Guy or Look Well, but they're having fun with him playing an eccentric. I guess then it's like the Turkey Day things he hosted back in the day, too. Yeah, yeah, good comparison. Yeah, check out those bumpers from like the 93 or 94 Turkey Day when they stopped writing 50 sketches and just said, just get Mamie Van Doren or Adam West to host.

We're not going to write a bunch of sketches for a thing that's aired once. Yeah, although those were all recovered and you can watch those still. Yes, thanks, Shout Factory. Yeah. I think even back in the old, like, Rhino days. Oh, yeah. They were putting those on discs and stuff. So also on that episode, Matt Quintanilla says,

I wonder if the pilot had gone to series and somehow lasted long enough, if it would have stumbled onto a formula of shows like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and Aqua Teen Hunger Force where the protagonists are completely unsympathetic and nothing is ever resolved as is everybody seems to think lookwell's not worth bothering with and the sooner they get him to leave the less damage he'll do he's a celebrity and a kind of cop so i could see society letting him get away with a lot yeah i i am curious you know had it actually gone even to a second season like what does the thing even morph into i can see it being like get a life in that and get a life originally chris peterson is the crazy character and everyone else is a

straight man but then everyone else had just become crazier to make the show more interesting so i think look well would have um encountered other silly characters other than i mean people wouldn't just been like what's this guy talking about no get out of here he would have had other silly characters to run across i don't think they'd have to do the uh get a life thing of killing him every episode no no i think that i i was wondering that too when i saw mission hill again uh this weekend or last weekend was thinking like boy there'd been a season two of mission hill uh when it was new like in the year 2000 what would have changed like what would have been the you know the season one uh simpsons characters that then like who's the jay lauren prior of the first season of mission

hill who would fall back in season two probably the neighbors with the baby just because they're like not crazy enough though they did get a lot of cheers at the show like the the with the baby, just because they're not crazy enough. Though they did get a lot of cheers at the show. The character, the Jewish wife who's very anti-capitalist, she got the most cheers in the Seattle audience. That was the funniest thing seeing it with a crowd who were just like, her character who was supposed to be this extreme anti-capitalist, everybody's like, yeah, woo. And then when the jokes are like the hot

pants the spicy pants aren't gay they're not gay it was like no they this everybody agrees with them now like yeah no it's homophobic to say that those spicy pants are gay and now we're on to how i spent my summer vacation and darren says chris is right they did do a joke with this ghost's family being different genres of music in season 32 in the episode where homer worked at a chucky cheese style place as a teenager in the 90s his parents were duop steve and public domain debbie um sure i watched that episode and forgot that joke but that is so we talked earlier about matt selman facing all of this stuff that that was another episode where

he executive produced it and said ahead of time i know this is going to piss people off because we make homer a teenager in the 90s who likes hip-hop oh that's the one yeah okay that's the one so that's where for an episode he uh and of course that then graduates into when the flashbacks over jj abrams is making a movie based on the chucky cheese style pizza place and then homer becomes a hater online who says that jj abrams is destroying his child oh yeah a part of the episode is a field trip to the bad robot studios yep yeah it's uh it's a real uh a real jerk sesh for for.J. Abrams in that one. Blake R. says about that episode, I know most Simpsons fans have dismissed the unauthorized oral history of the Simpsons book from 2009,

but it did have some fun guest star gossip. Like for this one, apparently Hank Azaria and Mick Jagger didn't get along after Mick brushed him off when Hank tried to introduce himself. Good to hear they apparently had fun in the recording booth, though, and I can't imagine anything sadder than going to a rock and roll fantasy camp because you saw Homer Simpson go to one. Like, oh yeah, I'm like Homer Simpson. I should go to this and be sad, too.

He's the man to emulate. Yeah, I forgot about that story. That book is mostly bad, but it has about 10 new anecdotes that are unreported elsewhere so i really want to get a cheap copy of it and like just look up those 10 again i have a kindle version still all saved up and yeah that was the last time i looked in it was when we were talking about the rarely discussed richard sakai when we did the the sushi episode oh right and how he is kind of like Smithers, right? Yeah, he seems like a bit of a Smithers. There's definitely unauthorized oral history paints him as the hatchet man for James L. Brooks,

who's like, you know, James L. Brooks is good cop, Richard Sakai bad cop. But it also did sound like I still had sympathy for him being the only Japanese guy there who says like hey it's kind of racist towards japanese people i think he actually listened they listened to him rather yeah well because they had to because he's a high level boss otherwise they wouldn't have moving on to camp crusty uh miles galasca says the section of the episode where crusty is with the queen at wimbledon isn't quite as strange as it first appears. At Wimbledon Center Court, the best seats in the house are the Royal Box, which as the name implies, is reserved for the royal family and their guests.

You frequently see celebrities there during the tournament alongside establishment grandees and members of the royal family. The episode takes a bit of a liberty having the actual Queen there, as Lizzie too didn't care for tennis and rarely took advantage of the royal box herself in fact she only went four times in 1957 1962 1977 in 2010 her appearances were so infrequent that not only did she not watch lendl play becker there the gap between her last two appearances included the entirety of both their careers so not not a tennis fan it's one of the lower class of sports uh not when tennis isn't fancy enough for you that's when you're one of the fanciest people in the world the kind of sports royalty enjoys is let's all get on horses and chase a fox until it dies of a heart attack right now that's sports now that sport we get to see the fox suffer where ripped and then ripped to shreds after it's had that heart attack man i didn't know about uh i i giggle each time i hear the royal royal box yes

but that's where prince charles came from who who that guy uh but yeah nine only doing it uh four times that's uh a surprise as well i did not know this so that makes it even sillier that the one time she would be in the royal box in the 1990s would be a fictional time with crusty the clown as her guest uh rob mcbride says about camp crusty very interesting the scrapped mr burns relation to mr black everything below his nose is a similar design to mr burns as you know in addition to camp deadly bart versus the world also featured a rogues gallery of Burns relatives. Have there been any

canonical Burns relatives in the show? I'm drawing a blank. I can remember Burns' parents and son featured at least once, and the mysterious Kaiser at his wedding to Miss Bouvier Sr. The non-canon video game relatives are almost Kang variant-like. I think that boat

in Rumble was some sort of hovercraft great shows as usual y'all so thanks and that's Rumble in the Bronx he's talking oh okay that was a hovercraft not a hydrofoil I suppose yeah I mean all the bosses in Bart versus the world for the Nintendo the

1992 video game we have the now cancelled Fu Manchu Burns so I guess burns has like a uh mongolian uh chinese sure whatever uh they weren't thinking that much about it uh the abominable snow burns uh ramses burns and eric von berms a reference to eric von stroheim the famous director oh wow man the kids love that it has been a long time since I even thought about that game I the only other Burns relative other than the of course parents and Larry Burns that we know about in the show that I can think of is also spongy canonicity and I'm

sure there were some in comic books as well but I count the early stuff a little more in canon uh the in the simpsons uncensored family album in the family tree they show how burns is somehow long-term connected to the simpsons family like way way off and along a family tree and they make up some family members in there too though of course that's where um mona simpson has a different name her original i believe was maggie simpson okay no not it was her name is a margaret and that's where they got maggie from but she it's not muddy may suggins but it's the other one in her fake names or martha stewart but they they changed that to mona simpson as a tribute to a man soon to be xy yeah yeah i think usually with burns the joke is he outlived all of his family members and only secretly had one son. So there's just nobody left except for that Kaiser guy.

That is. Yeah. You know what? That's why he's trying to adopt an heir. So our next set of comments is from what a cartoon movie. The episode Toy Story 4 and Yancey Senior says a little pet peeve of mine concerning the rhetoric around Potato Head in this movie. There's a screenshot of a paragraph that seems to go viral every couple of months about how Disney worked so hard going through, quote,

30 years of an extended media catalog with outtakes, video games, and cut lines from Don Rickles for Potato Head in this movie. And reading the paragraph, you think, yeah, they did an amazing job. But then you watch the movie, and I think he says like three or four lines. The best one is, hey, watch it, buddy, which I think they get from Toy Story 1 anyway and yeah I agree like I said uh Toy Story 4

is missing that potato head spice everyone is just getting along a little too much even the villain yeah you really need him there to shake it up but and and also yeah they brag that they're like oh we got so much I even after seeing it the first time, in my memory, I was like, yeah, I guess he did say a few lines. I didn't even notice it. Now watching it very closely, I'm like, yeah, he doesn't say anything in this movie at all. And, you know, now I'm thinking about it more. They immediately replaced Jim Varney. That is kind of cruel, honestly.

Yeah. They didn't have any. I mean, i guess the movie barely had the prestige like so he if he had been in a second one maybe they'd have felt bad to replace him in 2010 and just gotten rid of old slink though i mean i i love the old guy who does slinky still yeah who's rapidly aging as well but arguably potato head is more important to the stories and the movies are telling i really feel like i don't know maybe it was too soon but uh we need a new potato head

no you you definitely need another one like you you need somebody to tell them like i'm gonna kill you like i'm gonna like you're dead you're murdering dog so uh oh and i looked it up in the uncensored family album her name is Penelope Olsen. That was the original name given. And they did include that in Mother Simpson too. Yes. Yeah. But yeah.

So also on Toy Story 4, the Important Cinema Club says Duke Caboom is also based on Canadian stuntman Ken Carter. The subject of the NFB documentary, The Devil at Your Heels, 1981, in which the entire thing is building up to him doing a jaw-dropping dirt bike jump without any planning at all. Hence the joke of Kaboom being very good at crashing.

Yeah, did not know that. So they didn't just make up a Canadian Evel Knievel. There was a Canadian E evil kenevil equivalent named ken carter and all of the crashing now i do believe like not that not that evil kenevil didn't crash but this all this crashing and doing things very quickly with no planning that sounds a little more like the ken carter i'm hearing described here but he had great health care unlike evil kenevil he could sir yeah you're right he didn't have to suck uh he didn't have to take on as many debts afterwards from his injuries one thing i do know the important cinema club is uh will sloan's other

podcast michael and us is will sloan oh wow so if that was you will sloan hey thanks thanks that's uh and if it was the co-host no thanks stop commenting Stop commenting. No, we like you too. But NFB, is that the PBS? National Film Board. Oh, right. I know them from all of the shorts I watched as a kid. They got shown for free on American television. The Cat Came Back? Yes, that was my favorite as a kid.

Loved it. Watched it 8 million times to the point that it drove my mom crazy. You had no choice. It aired every commercial break on Nickelodeon because they couldn't sell enough commercials and i loved it every time i wanted it i wanted it more more more of that than the dentist cartoon i didn't want that i forgot about that one moving on to our what a cartoon episode about teenage mutant ninja turtles and joe hodgson says april was always envisioned as a white individual by eastman and laird the confusion The confusion stems from Eastman being married to a woman named April at the time, who was mixed race, and obviously that's where the name came from.

She also gets a new hairstyle during the early part of the Mirage run, which was a perm, not an uncommon style at the time. And Eastman is on the record as saying he used his wife's hair as a model of sorts, and I think that's where most of the confusion stems from. It's not really important, but it basically came about over the past few years as a gotcha to shout down racist assholes who were upset that april was made a black woman for the latest show rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles i see okay so it's not exactly i i understand now i'm totally fine with april being black and in the majority of stuff now it seems like like that that's her in the

new series as well or the movie yeah yeah oh I didn't know that okay in Mutant Mayhem yeah yeah and so well it's also like I've noticed that um coming soon in the next month and I'm looking forward to it originally a max original but now it's on Adult Swim instead um My Adventures with Superman the new anime-esque looking oh yeah series I saw that and it's like two episodes well they're just dropping two episodes and then it's going to be weekly on Adult Swim but uh yeah in it I believe it's another one of the things I've seen where Lois Lane is Asian American of of some uh. I'm not exactly in another thing. I've seen recently a new one with, with Lois. She has a Chinese mother and I believe she's mixed race with a,

with a Caucasian father. But the point is that I think they, they're also, I'm totally fine with, with her being Asian as well. Like that's, that's fine fine and like lois lane being white is not truly key to her character so long as her dad is still a racist evil general oh that's how it works yeah her dad is a an evil general in the military who hates superman not one of the handsome generals not one of those wonderful handsome generals no uh and christmas ape actually on the on this lois and clark show they did a plot with that character where her dad built a robot clone of a woman to be his new wife and brought her to christmas and oh so he like basically brought a sex doll to christmas yes yeah okay yeah anyway christmas ape said your takeaway at the end of the podcast is mine as well it's really nice to see at least one mega popular franchise where the original creators

didn't get screwed over, even after selling to a massive media conglomerate. It seems to be one of the better managed nostalgia franchises too, because every time I check in to see what they're doing in the comics or the cartoons, they always sound at least somewhat interesting and they don't usually come off as desperately pandering how many people in the late 80s and early 90s would have expected that the ninja turtles of all things would still be doing perfectly okay over 30 years later and uh in a world where we're seeing what the flash is now i really think yes turtles is lives their lives with so much more dignity than so many of the things that were popular at the same time they really lucked out i mean michael keaton

is sold out everything for his character to be in that movie it's so bad because he didn't win an oscar or did he win an oscar he did not win okay so he's like fuck it yeah he's he's like i'm sick of trying i said no to this for 20 years, but fine. I'll be fucking Batman. You want me to say the line? And then if they hadn't shown in every trailer him saying the lines that you knew he would say in the movie. Let's get nuts. And he says, I'm Batman.

He does all of it. It's like, save that for the movie so I at least have something to see. No, they're trying to get you in the door with those lines you put up with the flash. But the promises of like, well, if they do that, then they must have something else to show you. No, they don't. Unless you count seeing a CGI model fly around and you have a complete disconnect of like, I know Michael Keaton can't do that. Why are you doing this? He couldn't do this when he was 30 that's upsetting yes uh moving on to crimes of the hot talking futurama eric schumann

says enjoy this episode in the buster poindexter sidebar at the end back in 2006 the reunited new york dolls played my radio station's music festival the only original members were david johansson who as you pointed out is still with us in 2023 and guitarist sylvain sylvain who sadly is not i remember david being very interested in learning about the various ships docked along the waterfront and that the power went out during their set but they kept going like it was nothing the dolls had the mercer art center collapse around them in 1973 after all there's a picture of me with david somewhere but let's just say we both look a lot better now than we did 17 years ago and good for both you guys yeah and uh eric i would have just asked him like man was bill murray a dick i hear he's a dick he's a dick

especially on that set i hear he's a real dick yeah that's great to get to see to get to see the reunited new york dolls live and yeah how punk rock the power goes out and they're like now we're not stopping we're not taking a pause that's great uh blake r says it's still bonkers to me that the environmental protection agency was put into place by nixon of all presidents nowadays it would be wild for even the sitting democratic president like biden to create something like that versus the modern well we'll try to have this sorted by let's say 2050 approach i always i was always a little surprised the nixon connection never came into play in his role in the simpsons movie maybe graining just had his fill of the tricky dick yeah no i i always forget that about the epa thing and the and the nixon goes to china thing like he actually did he accomplished some things old tricky dick uh compared to

compared to say joseph robinette biden perhaps yeah and i i assume if we ask kamala harris about that she would say it is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day i had to look it up because it makes no sense as a sentence. That is a wonderful, horrible sentence of a person who doesn't know what they're... I mean, man, things ain't looking great for Dems right now, guys. I got to say, we got a really unpopular president and the vice president. I don't think can handle it, guys. I'm sorry.

I know we all wanted her to really really succeed but my I said prove us wrong Kamala prove us wrong but her time as vice president I do feel like has been classic vice president though then again hey I said Joe Biden is such a boring lame old vice president he'll never be president either and yet here we are so the she might prove us all wrong anyway my advice is do not come do not come now we're going to move on to talking in the hill the episode was good hill hunting and maverick says there's a lot to say about the myth of quote hunting for conservation so i will try to keep it brief number one hunting is necessary for population control this is the

main defense of hunting from the hunting establishment that the public has come to widely believe. But look beyond the false narrative and you will find over 350 officially registered deer breeding farms in Wisconsin alone. Why are they increasing the deer population all over the country? The answer, to keep up with the demand for animals to hunt. This is why the population control argument is a false one. These populations are artificially created for the sole purpose of hunting and killing them to the 10 largest non-profit conservation organizations contribute 2.5 billion annually to habitat and wildlife conservation of this only 12.3 percent comes from hunters at 87.7 percent comes from the non-hunting public so what maverick is saying is that hunting for conservation is bullshit it's all uh i should have figured it was hunter

propaganda but i mean the popular population control thing that's funny to learn that there i should have realized there's deer breeding i mean in the episode at lagrunta they are by they must be buying those deer from a breeding place but yeah if you if deer population is so bad and they need to be killed off, why are we making more deer in breeding farms for, like, for profit? Then clearly there aren't enough deer. They are needing to make more deer to then have the two men, oh, there's too many deer, you got to shoot them kind of bullshit. I feel like if you've got a gun, you can find something to kill in America.

There's no shortage. Yeah, yeah. Or, I mean, you can find something to kill in America. There's no shortage. Yeah, yeah. Or, I mean, just do target practice or skeet shooting. Become a cop. You can shoot every dog you see. It's great. Yeah, see, I mean, well, see, they're just not enough of a psychopath to want to be a cop, I guess. They can, killing one deer a year uh that's enough but uh one deer

a month that's a deer or beer a month but thanks for the hunting information maverick i will keep it with me at all times yes yeah uh but yeah this has been another episode of talk to the audience again folks we're gonna have a little bit of a later july because henry and i are making some big moves and setting up in our new location we need a little bit of time uh to do that but we appreciate you uh suffering through a few of the uh later weeks but that's all going to make up for it in the future because we'll be able to record more we'll be able to be more productive and we'll be able to spend um save money on edits that month and then put that towards new equipment and building new studios and stuff plus we'll be have we'll both be happier and healthier in our more balanced lives living with our spouses full time yes i think husbands should live with their wives i'm shouted out in public no i've uh i've

had only six months of this long distance thing that you you've gone through much longer than that bob and it it's not fun i don't like it. That will be rectified soon. Yes, on both our sakes. So, yes, look forward to all the cool stuff we got, the Bugs Life. Give that a watch if you want to be ready ahead of time. And I hope you guys have a happy, well, if you get into the time off and you don't got to celebrate America, but have a happy july 4th either way yeah it's a day it's a day fourth of july day have a good day or a bastille day if that's what

you celebrate instead who knows whatever thanks for listening everybody we'll see you again next time for another episode of talk to the audience take care Wow, infotainment I'm gonna miss Springfield This town's been awfully good to us No it hasn't, Dad That's why we're leaving Oh yeah, so long, stink town This town's been awfully good to us. No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving. Oh, yeah. So long, stink town.