Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - November 2022

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

Hope everyone had a happy Turkey Day, as we catch up with a whole month worth of news for both our podcast and The Simpsons. We reflect on the most recent episodes and other news, announce some upcoming podcasts (with teases of our upcoming live show!), and talk about the many cool games/films/TV we engaged with in our free time. And, as always, we respond to some of our favorite comments from the most recent podcasts. So grab your body paint and get ready to listen! Support this podcast and get over 100 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

I heartily endorse this event or product. and Joyer, Bob Mackie, who is here with me today as always. Hey, it's Henry Gilbert, and I promise this is not a long parody of When Harry Met Sally. Thank God. It's been 36 years? 34 years? A very long time. Whatever. So in case you don't know, this is our community podcast. On this podcast, it goes live at the end of the month for patrons, the beginning of the

month for the free feed people, and what we do on this podcast is talk about what's happening in the Simpsons world and in our world, and then we respond to your questions and comments from the last round of episodes and it is not a big news month uh there have been a bunch of new episodes but one piece of news happened that's not simpsons related at all but it's us related and it's probably you related because you enjoy our podcasts yes yeah yeah we there was a lot of things that happened there's uh man like it's i guess this shows you too this kind of a sad month too that like the book ended of our news document here is two deaths yes well one uh fairly untimely and of course that's kevin conroy uh you know uh we

thought about changing blab about batman to crying about conroy but you know uh that would just ruin the mood of the podcast. But yes, we talk a lot about Conroy's death on the episode. It's coming up in December, the Read My Lips episodes of Blabbing About Batman, the animated series. We recorded half of the series before his passing, which means we still have yet to get to it in our recordings, unfortunately. Yeah. But I mean, we celebrate him so much in every episode. It's not, we didn't take him for granted when he was with us. So, I mean, you can listen to many episodes where we are extremely complimentary to his talent. And yeah, now it's just, you know, it is great that he left so many performances as Batman

and other roles too. It's sad he won't be doing anymore, but he'll have such a big resume or collection of his work for us to look back on that it'll be hard to run out of things of Kevin Conroy's performances. Yeah. And I wonder if it's going to be like Gilbert Gottfried's passing in which he had 4,000 hours of recorded cameos that have not been distributed because Kevin Conroy was doing cameos. I have one one i wonder if there's like the conroy vault release the cameos we need to hear about becky's 13th birthday conroy uh did so he did a lot of cameos he really did it's i saw a video shared on twitter that was like one of perhaps the last recorded thing kevin conroy did and it was a cameo which uh i think it was at least posted within days of

his death meaning you know he was still plugging away i mean he was he was an actor who loved to work he loved he loved acting he loved the craft of acting i uh if i could point people to a really good interview of his that i think especially was a good watch after his passing because it's a happy, exciting look back at his career. And it's him having fun talking about it with somebody he respects. Listen to the I Hear Voices with Will Friedle and Christy Romano because they really get into his life and his career and his Juilliard training and all that. And because him and Will have worked together on and off for like 20 years, they have so many fun stories to tell. And there's a video version of it on YouTube too.

So it's just, you know, after the sad, unexpected passing of Conroy, it was extra comforting to watch this thing of him just like so happy and excited talking about his life story. It's really good. And of course, we're still doing the Blab about batman podcast miniseries on our patreon that will continue we're not going to stop it just because he passed away and that podcast itself is a celebration of his uh performance as the other performances on the shows as well so yes uh that is our tribute to him and i think we'll be doing more batman in the future we've only covered we'll have only

covered 20 out of the like 100 episodes by the time we're done with this season so there's a lot more to talk about yeah and plus like at least three movies left if you count Batman and Superman as a movie which I do so yeah a lot of new episodes this month of the Simpsons back to the Simpsons

unfortunately we recorded our last talk to the audience right before the Halloween episode went live so now we're in late November talking about Halloween which is fine because Paranorman is on our Patreon as the movie of the month we talk about. So it's still spooky time. And yeah, Trias of 433 went live and I mostly enjoyed this. And I will say they really nailed the look and the editing style and the music of the death note anime specifically it really feels like so they sat down and studied the death note anime and um surprising very surprising yeah yeah i think they uh the it i think it's one of the strongest overall tree houses they've done

in a while because they i've watched a lot of the last i think i've watched all the last five tree houses uh when they aired and all of them had at least one segment that made me go like you know or or just make me go like oh that's not funny like the trees one oh that was bad yeah but this one all the segments were good i felt all the segments were good i think too that you know we're seeing the positive results of having spreading around the showrunner abilities a lot more not just that selman is showrunning more episodes but his co-showrunning policy he has where a lot of episodes like treehouse are technically showrun by him but he

also kind of delegates a lot of it to uh other senior people carolyn omine in the case of treehouse 33 and i feel like that is why you get a we joked of death note a death note parody you know 16 years after after the tv show of it like almost seems too late yeah i think the uh carolyn omine on twitter shared a ton of interesting stuff about it including multiple of the storyboarders who in america you know they did it in the style and the storyboard as close they could to with the anime. But that's not really the style they're trained in for Simpsons. And then they show what their storyboards were that they sent to the Korean studio DR Movie. And then they produced it really, really well.

Like when people say like, oh, they're the Death Note animation team. It's like you pointed out, out bob that that's technically true but i think technically they've they've they're the they're the uh miyazaki people as well it's like oh they make all the ghibli movies or ghibli movies it's like well no they in between on everything that's what they do yeah yeah but the babadook one was also cute though i've never seen the babadook i have it's been a while and i was a little high when i watched it oh it was in in my 420 smoke weed every day days. But I don't know how close it was to the movie, but it was a cool Maggie versus murderous Marge story. Yeah, I like when Marge gets to be evil.

That was cute. And also that Marge, the little cheek touching thing, that that was what paid it off. I thought it was just good storytelling. And also, on the Death Note one as well well yes we we talked about it for months now but i will say uh folks should check out if they haven't been able to get their hands on on nina and ian's eisner award-winning comic the real gyms did a video comparing the two segments the bongo comic death note parody and it's really good our pal real gyms i think did a really good video uh comparing the two so i was prepared to not like the death note uh segment in this treehouse uh i did enjoy it for what it was

i think the choices that nina and ian made were better although i will say and this is a spoiler for that segment so i guess skip ahead a minute if you don't want to be spoiled i think it was all leading to the joke of l being el barto yeah uh and that was like it was just there and they grabbed it and i think it was written backwards from that. I think so too, but I did chuckle with that like, oh,

that's the only reason Bart is L and also that they explained that like, Bart's like, well, we live in the same house. That's how he figured out. It did not go against

the characterization of Bart. Like, Bart is too stupid to be L. Lisa, though Lisa also isn't L in the Bongo version either in Nina's version. And I don't want to talk about people sounding too old.

And I promise we will clamp it down. But when Burns started talking in the Death Note parody, I was like, there's something off with Harry Shearer's recording equipment. Wherever he's recording this, it just sounds like it took me a while to realize it was him. So I feel like it was like whatever remote thing he's doing, because he never records locally records locally hasn't done that for like 25 years or something i feel like there was some technical error so it just sounds off it just like was really really grating to me he should be used in the same studio as le show which i'm sure sounds great but no he'll bill them for that i also liked in the the death note parody one of my favorite bits was how they stuck in as many you know they only designed so many characters in the that style but in background jokes they're like oh you know let's have a drawing let's just

have a background drawing of Abe here to show what he looks like yeah or other characters before we move on the one big flaw I thought uh in that Death Note parody is they didn't make Ryuk the Shinigami a Simpsons character They just made him an original character. And I was like, he could have been Moe. He could have been anybody. I mean, they're probably not going to make him Krusty. Well, because they just did it. Yeah, yeah.

But I mean, it just felt weird that it was Hank Azaria, but it wasn't like any character. It just was the Steve Johnson guy. Yeah. I mean, it was a cute gag for like Steve Johnson, but you're right. Why wasn't it Moe? Or who likes apples to Moe? You know, Homer, he always wants a fresh apple and plenty of fresh apples. a cute gag for like steve johnson but you're right why wasn't it mo or or uh who like who likes apples the mo oh you know homer uh he always wants a fresh apple and plenty of fresh let's say let's say it's cletus yeah oh that'd be great i don't know uh but yes the it was it was like i

think that was better than last year's uh but yeah i was very surprised by it and i did like the puka duke as well oh and the west world parody oh yeah simpsons world that was really that was honestly my favorite i i thought death note was gonna feel like the one that was aimed most at me but no it was it was simpsons world about annoying simpsons fans that that was really cool i i like most of it the parts i don't like are just them walking by references i like the interacting with the references and playing with the references and things like that because that's what our future is going to be is uh whenever they they set fire to simpsons world one and rebuild simpsons world two it'll be like some sort of hologram experience where you can like you can like go to camp crusty and get chased by the

giant boulder and you could uh you can shoot mr burns like they talk about in this uh in this segment i how could i not feel like I'm being directly attacked when the characters are experiencing monorail again and just a character comes in and says, I call the big one bitey and just says it as Homer says it. Well, when we're all dying in our hospice beds and everything's on the metaverse now, they're going to slip the helmets over us as we're, you know,

dying of whatever horrible diseases we'll get in the future. And they'll say, Mr. Gilbert, you're in the audience of Marge versus the monorail now. You can watch the whole production. You're in the front row. Huzzah. Thank you. And instead of being surrounded by our loved ones, it will just be us experiencing Simpsons

scenes in the first person as we slip away. As we're coughing out our last words will be monorail. Yeah, that's what I want. Yeah, I thought overall a really good treehouse. Yes. And so I was very busy this month I'm giving my excuses now because I traveled a lot then when I got back I had to work on the Batman series and I was the producer of the movie this month so I missed these new episodes but I will say look at looking at the titles and I love the man and I want to talk to

him these are some Al Jean titles this is like Jean. If an episode is named after a movie before 1992, and perhaps if they already made that pun before, this is an Al Jean special. He's serving it up to you. It's the Al Jean blue plate special. So I believe only one of these was technically showrun by Al Jean, but I think he's in charge of the names. He could be in the naming room.

I think he is like, you know what? Head of the namers. Selman, I'll give up half of my power to show running but i'm gonna i still pick the names like yeah so it's a double dad special in november because uh from beer to paternity is a duff man duff man finally got his own episode bob oh i figured that would have happened i he never uh to my knowledge i knowledge, I might have missed it, but I think he's never had a fully Duffman is the A story episode, but he is here.

And it's about Homer's relationship with Lisa as it's played off against Duffman having a relationship with his estranged adult daughter who's played by Aubrey Plaza. It's kind of good. It's all right. I mean, especially I like, I think Azaria does a good job duff man with more uh nuance than he is normally tasked he said to do that with comic book guy as well i i think he does a little better with duff man uh and then step brother from the same planet is where abe remarries uh a woman uh voiced by carol kane which is her first credited

appearance in the simpsons that's right she played maggie in bart versus thanksgiving in the fantasy where bart comes back home and the uh the family goes it's all your fault it's all your fault which is funny like she didn't even go by a pseudonym in the credit she's just fully uncredited she didn't even do the sam eddick uh deal but melissa mccarthy plays the dorky new stepbrother homer has and it's all right uh but honestly though the stuff about homer homer is jealous that the news his stepbrother is treated with love by abe when abe is cruel to him all the time and uh it actually has a really good resolution for somebody who has uh father issues i thought it had a really good resolution and then

unfortunately though they set up this entire new thing where abry marries he moves in with her moves out of the retirement castle and i they got me this time i thought they really were setting up a new status quo for abe and then the post credits joke is him just unpacking his things the retirement castle going like so she met a new guy and divorced me and I moved back in here and the kids live in somewhere else too. So I'm just, I was like, man, come on, have the guts to keep this status quo with Abe. The only big changes in the show have been deaths or sobriety. Yeah. Yeah.

Man. Or I guess babies though. Yeah. Babies. Well, Apu and his babies are all in the same like nowhere zone. They're in the, we don't talk about this anymore uh space uh and then there's when nelson met lisa which honestly it it is an aljean special let me tell you bob so it is a full episode long parody of when harry met sally like from beginning to

end i feel like this uh i i'm being a jerk here but i feel like it was written in like 1991 or something. I mean, just was sitting around. It's like, now's our chance. I know. So does Lisa fake an orgasm in a restaurant? They don't do that scene, thank God. They don't do that.

Now, I'm not being blue, people. Bart faked an orgasm in Brother from the Same Planet? Yeah, Brother from the Same Planet. Yes, there was a Bart faking an orgasm joke in that. It's just him saying we on the swing the swing higher faster or faster and then daddy yeah yeah but in this case though uh they don't do that it's about lisa nelson as uh will they won't they kind of couple my biggest positive on it is i really like that they got natasha leone back to play sophie krastofsky oh

so yeah drew barrymore will talk to marge on her talk show but she can't like do five minutes of recorded audio for sophie uh you know natasha leone uh plays better i honestly she's who i would cast as the voice of crusty's daughter i like her more anyways yeah yeah and she's great she's not a lifestyle whatever i mean god bless drew mary more but that's all she's doing yes yeah i hey she's better i haven't heard any stories about her being mean like ellen she uh but uh the biggest negative i will say that really made me go like i knew instantly it was it was aljean because of all of its style but boy okay here's the worst part bob they do a joke in the future where the president in the future is a clone of Abe Lincoln and the vice president is a clone of Ronald Reagan. And Ronald Reagan does jokes about how the Republican Party is too crazy even for him now.

And so it's like literally jokes about how Ronald Reagan would be ashamed of the Republican Party. I was like, fuck. Like that made me actually like shout at the screen like, fuck this. Yeah, that's some boomer lib talk and I won't have any of it. Reagan's evil. He's in hell right now. He's hanging out with John Wayne Gacy. If he was somehow alive and cognizant when Trump came up, he would love Donald Trump.

They are the same guy. They are both famous assholes who became president, who got by on their fame and also were super racist and hateful. Like Ronald Reagan, gigantic racist. Like we knew this even before. But when that clip of him talking, calling black people monkeys, they came out like, we know this. And a homophobe. Giant homophobe, yeah.

Awful, awful man. We don't need to tell you this though. Yeah. All right. So anyway, speaking of what awful man. Oh, right. Old Muskie. He's at it again, folks.

And he's, I mean, people have said this online and I hate talking about it, but he's the worst poster. Yes. He is like, if he signed up for something awful in 2004, he'd get banned after his first post. And all of his tweets are like basically stolen 2008 Reddit memes. Like he is an old man posting on the internet. And I guess he posted

about the simpsons and that it's like his jokes are like mike huckabees you have to sit down and study them and like what did he mean by this yes where it's a picture of lisa like at a bird feeder and uh elon musk is tweeting simpsons predicts i buy twitter and then season 26 episode 12 which i'm guessing is the episode he was on yes yeah it I mean it also is just about him having been on it which is awful and I hope they atone for that someday on the show but my main point was just like okay guys Elon Musk did a Simpsons predicted a joke the joke's dead you have to stop doing it yeah if the world's unfunniest man does the joke you have to stop we can't do this anymore I mean, I've said this to you before, Henry.

I know you agree. This is not original thought either. I feel like it's cool to dunk on Elon Musk, but he is now in like the Ben Shapiro school of any attention is good attention. So I feel like he's not playing 40 chess, but he doesn't mind embarrassing himself because when he embarrasses himself, he gets attention and that attention is negative and the negative attention radicalizes his sicko followers followers so it's a horrible loop and i don't mind dunking on him but i feel like some of the things he's doing again not 4d chess but it's like i'm

gonna put something really stupid out there and then attention will come to me immediately yeah it's an easy feedback loop this is not yeah we are not saying he's smart or this is like an amazing strategy it's it's like the obvious one that made like ben shapiro a billion a millionaire a few times over because he's like yeah it's fun i'm i'm the main character of twitter for today i have no shame everyone makes fun of me and the fact that he angers liberals is his appeal like that's the whole fucking point of it yeah yeah and i mean this is why we need to abolish the billionaire class. If I had $10 million, you would never see me again. Elon Musk has like 100,000 times more money than that.

He sits down at a computer every fucking day and thinks, how can I improve this platform? Ooh, I have Zoom calls to make. That's insane. You could have any experience you want. You could have 11 more children with people with single names. You can just do whatever but you go to a job every day i mean that's why he's a billionaire because he's a sicko well and he's extremely divorced let's not forget that multiple times yeah i mean people are

joking now that like who's who has more divorced man energy ye or musk like which which one is it also just this has been a rough month of just everybody that was a dumb like five minutes where everybody was like well i guess twitter's going on tomorrow i'm gonna miss all you can find me here here here and here yeah and make sure you go here now i did the same thing i signed up for yeah i did i did a co-host account i did a hive account and bob server on each and i post on either one absolutely not and uh i am going to steal from a friend of the show matt chrisman uh My own thoughts are Twitter's not going anywhere and neither are you. That's as simple as it is. There was like a weekend where we're all saying our farewells and

some people were like nuking their accounts and everything. But at least from my own perspective, nothing has changed outside of people making fun of Elon Musk now. He is the main character right now. Yeah, which is not fun. I don't like him being the main character but yeah and also I mean it's undeniable he has brought back some accounts that were bad and should have been banned like it's not good yes uh I mean in some instances it has gotten worse but it's not like the building's on fire things can't be posted uh the service is slow or whatever and I feel like Twitter never made money no and it never will it was always a failing company so Elon Musk being there is just like oh here's a different way to fail and and most of the stories you read about him like running the company that everybody's like oh my god i can't

believe this like they're all the things every billionaire asshole does when they buy a tech company they are bad things but they're not uniquely bad to me like what was the story like oh he showed up and laid off a ton of people and then told everybody else they're not uniquely bad to me like what was the story like oh he showed up and laid off a ton of people and then told everybody else they're gonna have to work weekends it's like that literally happened to me and you in in the first month of a new boss at our last job yeah new boss with with he's another white guy with an accent that was our new boss yeah with another name that's like oh you're weird like yes i don't like but uh yeah so anyway i guess that's our general musk corner and i i do hope the show apologizes the simpsons somehow apologizes for elon musk i oh and there was one

other simpsons predicted thing i hate to talk about these but there was one of like because trump announced his 2024 campaign somebody brought up like did the simpsons predict it because in a 2015 episode there was a trump 2024 sign gag it's like come on guys this is not a simpsons predict it because in a 2015 episode there was a trump 2024 sign gag it's like come on guys this is not a simpsons we all knew he was gonna run again the joke i would guess in 2015 was trump will lose yeah in 2016 and he'll keep running until 2024 yes uh unfortunately a bad timeline uh one last thing and i'm sorry to talk about these guys but the trump thing as well i think it was very funny that elon uh was just like should we bring this guy back and people voted on it's like the people have spoken trump is back on twitter and he has he wants nothing to

do with twitter and elon is posting like the thirstiest memes like oh trump put it in me big daddy jam your account in me sweetie uh you know i hope i hope trump doesn't do it i hope that he the very least knows it's a petty power move if he comes back to twitter because elon did it then he uh you know in old 80s jerk of the way of thinking he owes musk and he doesn't want to owe musk like and honestly twitter is still just i fucking know every time trump does anything on truth social because somebody screen caps it and tweets about it on Twitter. So blech. Yeah, yeah.

Blech is right. Yes. And I guess we're gonna talk about asses now because Lizzo and Cardi B dressed as Marge for Halloween. Cardi B showing lots of, as Marge would call it, tushy. I don't think Marge would approve of this low-cut ass cleavage. Which then apparently

got an artist just threatening to sue Cardi B over. So yeah, both Lizzo and Cardi B both dressed as Marge. So Lizzo's Marge, both of them painted themselves yellow and the dress and everything. Lizzo's I really like because she is a real shit poster in that she dressed up as Marge and then one of her TikToks was posting her

in her Marge costume, reenacting a newly viral on TikTok family guy meme of Lois screaming PETA PETA yes that one I do like that one which I was like oh that's I thought that was pretty awesome that Lizzo did it that way meanwhile Cardi B's outfit uh she reenacted a photograph by Italian artist, Alexandro Palombo, who the picture is a woman with a, in a fancy dress, but with the butt cut out of it.

So your butt's hanging out. And then Cardi B did the same costume, but with her Marge outfit. I do feel like Hank Hill because I do appreciate a butt now and then, but this dress reminds me of uh coveralls that don't quite cover all it's true yes it is it is a real like uh prospector uh long johns it's like sexy prospector dress and of course it's a big yellow butt as well like she yeah though I hope uh you know I don't know for sure I talked talked before about body paint versus touch-ups or whatever.

I hope she actually put yellow paint on her butt instead of just having a, you know, someone in Photoshop changing it later. How far does that paint go in? Let's find out. And yes, I mentioned it up front, but there's a real Battle of the Bobs going on at Disney because Chapek out, Iger in. And I mean, they're both awful, terrible executives and I don't really like either one, but I don't like seeing Chapek. He's like an awful skin golem.

So the less I have to see him, the better. So as long as it's Bob, he looks like a kind of a normal man. Yeah, yeah. He is the most average looking of any exec we've ever seen. I mean, yeah, our pals over at Podcast the Ride did a really great emergency podcast about this

but mainly talking about it from the park's vision though pretty much most Disney freaks will agree that you know Iger was seemingly better than Chapek like Iger's era was better than Chapek's Chapek seems like he is a guy who tries to cut cost doesn't give a shit about creatives uh constantly puts his foot in his mouth i mean it was under him that the whole uh well yeah we we give money to the guys who sponsor the quote-unquote don't say gay bill but that's fine we would love to give voice to our gay artists over here or whatever and uh you know he had the problem with scarlett johansson threatening to sue the company that's right his fault too

yeah now I'm stealing opinions from podcast the right and I think blank check too but uh I feel like a lot of these streaming companies including Disney are going to start pulling back on the catalogs because they assumed wrongfully that oh yeah there will never be a limit to the amount of subscribers but they kind of hit that yeah and they don't know what to do I mean what they're doing is just earning tons and tons of money but it's not exponential growth so they're like fuck that may as well be lost money if you don't have exponential growth in american capitalism so the prediction is things will be in theaters now movies will be available for rent not necessarily on uh you know a streaming network on podcast the ride they were talking about this. And I've noticed this as well as someone who watches a lot of movies on the weekends.

A lot of movies, like very popular movies, are not on streaming services. You have to rent them on like Amazon, iTunes, Apple, whatever, YouTube. You can't just go and find like E.T. somewhere. You have to rent it. Man. Yeah. Like big, big movies. Maybe I forget if E.T. you can actually watch that stream, but you'd be surprised what is

not streaming. Like, no, Universal owns this movie. Why isn't it on Peacock or Hulu? No, $3.99 on Amazon, rent it. And that's it. Yeah. You know, we thought HBO Max was going to be like, oh, it's the bad one now. But I think you're right that it's going to be most streaming groups are going to end

up doing this of just like, we gave away too much we you know things are going back in the disney vault soon i bet too like they it's not though i guess all the classics are worth less now worth space less now uh because they you know they're not the princess factory anymore they're the star wars and marvel factory so you don't have to keep Snow White behind the vault anymore. It feels like less of these big companies are going to be putting movies direct to streaming. I think they want to make money in theaters first. And then after a few months, put them on streaming. Like how it used to work.

Because I'm seeing a lot of these movies where there are places for them to go. There aren't really family movies in theaters anymore. Outside the big tentpole pixar disney dreamwork stuff and then a lot of them like a hocus pocus 2 and the uh disenchanted yes uh they go right to disney plus as do like a lot of the the pixar movies and i feel like theaters didn't die they were weakened but that is still like a valuable source of revenue instead of just sending them out on streaming platforms that have a limited reach in terms of the amount of subscribers they can have at once i thought that strange world movie was uh had to be a disney plus original because i saw so few ads for it and you know meanwhile like turning red should have been in theaters but they they dumped it on disney plus that strange worlds movie ate a big heaping helping of thanksgiving dinner shit yes yeah and according to folks in our discord i

didn't see the movie but it's oh it's okay it's not it's not like a fantastic movie but it also was like under marketed and apparently the bobs burgers movie made more money in its first weekend than the strange worlds movie did oh oh boy that's that's a bad sign that's not good uh yeah i think i could be in back now you know what could this mean for the simpsons i guess to center this on our favorite family all right that's our podcast i i don't see the simpsons when we talk about disney plus maybe scaling back stuff i don't see the simpsons going away because i think it still is like the most consistently watched thing on disney plus like month to month people pay for disney plus just to have access to all the simpsons all of the time so yeah it's a

good value proposition i i don't feel i don't think anything will happen are we on the cusp of another renewal or what uh oh yes it's got to be by february they haven't had another renewal yet you're right so i guess the future will be determined within the next like three months of our existence here i guess it's a better position for the simpsons people that assumedly because eiger is not perceived as as much of a cheapskate as chapek is like uh which most people i mean too like the chapek hosted d23 um the the park section was just like crappy like it was just like oh what are you guys doing nothing new no rides yeah hey there's a hulk here hulk who's not even like you see his little face and it's just like a giant that sucks that that whole yeah not to go on too long about this but i'm not going back to the parks until they figure things out i refuse to go back i

don't want the the magic key system i don't want i want a streamlined way i don't want reservations i feel like eiger might simplify things because i feel like chapek's uh greedy ways really ruin the parks for a lot of people uh and these are people that i've heard they've went since the pandemic and they've they've talked about their experiences including you yeah they've been worse it has been worse when we went i uh you know chapek as well i was seeing a lot of animation people celebrating him leaving uh not as much just you know oh boy bob eiger's back though i they i definitely got the feel they prefer eiger to chapek because chapek just a little bit before

this unceremonious ousting by eiger he was did some interview and the clip was floating around him saying like you know i think we've seen animation really just is for kids. Pretty much is what he says. Adults don't want to come home and watch a cartoon. So, you know, that is offensive to people like us. He's not paying attention to the last 20 years of animation or like maybe even 30 years. Yeah. Again, The Simpsons is why people own Disney Plus, Bob J. Peck. But so yeah, I guess it'll be an interesting factor perhaps in The Simpsons renewal or not,

or if it stays on Fox or who knows. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. And our last bit of news, we have one Simpsons related death, and that is the death of David Davis, a very cool name. Yeah, it's fun. But he passed away earlymber at the age of 86 he was julie kavner's partner for a very long time since 1976 and david davis was the co-creator of the bob newhart show co-created with garfield himself lorenzo music and he's also the co-creator

of taxi with james l brooks uh stan daniels and ed Weinberger. So yeah, a Brooks friend. Long time Brooks friend, like for almost as long as my parents have been alive, I think. Yes. And yeah, just a legend of like 70s and 80s television. And yeah, he met Julie Kavner on the set of Rhoda. And it's weird to think Julie Kavner's husband was almost 90, but he was 15 years older than her julie kavner just turned like she's in her early 70s right now yeah yeah and they uh he's i i you know certainly feel uh condolences to uh friends and family especially kavner and brooks like it's it had to be a rough time you know he never appeared on the show but the from beer to eternity was dedicated to him and he had a simpsons caricature drawn for his photo as well which was very nice he he lived a long life he created a lot of great stuff i the bob newhart

shows are really funny show it's it's full of it has a simpson style to it of wacky characters it's also where marcia wallace got her big break is as well so there's a lot of simpsons connections that's where he's the therapist right yes okay yeah new heart is the uh airbnb no sorry not airbnb b&b yes they didn't develop the technology yet which is also related to simpsons and that it was where dave merkin first show ran a show i don't know would we have lorenzo music as garfield if uh if they didn't work together on stuff like rhoda and he was the voice of of Carlton the Doorman, would we have had that? I don't think so. You know, I was looking up to see, like, did he do anything recently?

And based on his IMDb, he was kind of out by the mid-80s and just, like, being a consultant or an advisor to things. So maybe that's how lucrative the world of 70s television was. And also his wife is Julie Kavner and she's doing well. Yeah, yeah. I think that was in his New York Times obituary I read where his friends were saying like, yeah, this guy just, he just got to stop in the 80s. He just wanted to stop like this. You know, talking about that with Elon Musk, it's like Dave Davis hit the jackpot like three times and he is already quite rich.

He didn't even know he had Simpsons millions coming through through Kavner in the future. I think that's also why sam simon got to be a showrunner because dave davis retired then it was like this kid can take over so like at like 48 he retired it's sort of like the mike reese story although mike reese he got bored and decided to come back once a week to the simpsons but i mean i would take that contract for sure mike reese kind of was done as a regular everyday tv writer by 38 yes yeah yeah i so but uh you know as i examined dave davis's career even though he technically didn't work for the simpsons he created a lot of pathways that lead to the simpsons being what we know it as

so uh yeah rest in peace and then again condolences to especially, you know, Julie Kavner and Jim Brooks. And moving on to news about us. Some big news up front is that our 2021 Sketchfest show is finally happening in 2023 because obviously COVID delayed a few things. And this is supposed to happen last year, but it's going to be our Simpsons Predicted panel with special guest Matt Crispin from Chapo Trap House. It's happening Wednesday, January 25th at Piano Fight in San Francisco. You just have to Google Talking Simpsons Sketch Fest. You'll find it. I'm not sure.

I forget if tickets were actually sold last year, but I don't know if those will be honored. I don't know what's happening there. Yeah, I wish I had an answer for you guys but they tickets were definitely sold last year we yeah i remember telling people buying but i think i cannot recall if people got refunds or if their tickets were still good yes uh we you uh we aren't we don't have the answers for you but uh i'm sure there are answers because they're they're very good at working with the people at sketch fest so yeah but i can't tell you wednesday night january 25th a piano piano fight in San Francisco on, I think, their main stage. We will be talking about, finally, Simpsons predicted it, which now we have even more

things to talk about, especially because Simpsons literally did a whole joke about it. And Matt Chrisman, we're so excited he was able to come back and visit us. He's a busy man. He's living it up in Los angeles doing all this uh great work and that's why you should buy tickets immediately because uh let's let's face facts chapo trap house is roughly like 50 times bigger than our podcast yes uh and people they're going to enjoy us but a lot of people will be there for matt chrisman so if you have any inkling if you want to go i would i would get your ticket because that stage probably has like enough room for like 200 people maybe oh yes yeah

or less yeah honestly we should be asking for a bigger place but we didn't know if uh chrisman would be able to make it or not yeah so and i've been training i've been doing live shows i've been strength training my uh my reaction brain i still haven't done a live show since january 2020 it's uh yeah but i mean get your tickets now we're telling you guys early i mean the tickets are on sale it's uh we're on the sketch fest schedule as well uh we're one of the last weeks of it you know what the the new boosters out there i have a feeling it won't be canceled this year also because nobody cared like nobody cared even in the bay area pretty much nobody even bothers anymore yeah it's true it's true i think i think we've given up yeah or we just learn to live with it we have adapted so yes please check it out we're really

excited to perform again for the first time in uh three years yeah yeah three whole years gosh uh moving on talking about our schedule so the what a cartoon december episode will be all about the fox kids saturday morning cartoon The Adventures of Sam and Max Freelance Police. And we're talking about the segments Christmas, Bloody Christmas, and Bad Day on the Moon. And yes, we love Sam and Max here. Obviously, this is Max Gilbert sitting across from me, his alias for his criminal activities. Yeah, they made a Saturday morning cartoon based on the comic characters. You might know them more for the video games.

We talk about the entire history of Sam and Max, all the adaptations, and this very funny cartoon. It's like a three-hour podcast. We've recorded it already. Yeah, yeah. Bob did a ton of great research and was able to build upon the research he'd done for his great Sam & Max video game, Retro Knots episode, which folks should look up that one, too. It's a great companion to that upcoming one, a cartoon, which also is our Christmas one as well. Yes, we did too much Christmas last year. So you get a little dash of Christmas.

Moving on to our patron podcast. So for $5 and up patrons, we have Talking Futurama, of course, where we'll be talking about Leela's home world. The episode where Leela discovers her parents are mutants. Big episode. Spoilers. And also we'll be doing Talking of the Hill, the second part of the Propane Boom two-parter, the beginning of season three of King of the Hill, a fantastic season of that show. Yeah, and an amazing opener and directed by a person we've interviewed, Lauren McMullen.

Yes, one of her few episodes from this series. It's a really good looking one too. Yeah, she even told us a fun story about a special animation in that episode, too. It will remind you of Avatar The Last Airbender. Oh, that's right, yeah. Because it's a very different art style. So moving on, our What a Cartoon Movie for December will be Tokyo Godfathers, the Satoshi Kon classic from, I believe, 2002.

Three. Three, okay. Yes. It was both hit and Millenniumium actress were released at the same time in 2003 because dreamworks sat on millennium actress for two whole years right no wonder i was confused but uh this is my favorite of his movies i've seen it like six times i'm really excited to talk about it and uh there's a new dub out there too yes yeah the the first official american english dub it ever got uh which has a fun story behind it too. I've, I've already been

doing the research on it. Uh, you know, last year we were already fully committed to Millennium Actress, but then in December, Keiko Nobomoto, the, uh, writer, co-writer of the film and amazing writer, uh, she wrote, you know, she was the head writer on cowboy bebop uh for example among many things she passed away and a year ago we were like man i kind of wish we did tokyo godfathers instead now we're finally doing it and it also is a christmas movie a new year's movie like it is a really uh sweet film with uh and yeah i'm really looking forward to the new localization fixing uh maybe one of the the biggest problems with the old localization with it. Yes, definitely.

With how the character of Hana is treated. We've all evolved since then. So now we know how to handle certain things since 2003. Although, I forget when the original DVD release of it was published. It was like 2006 or something. It came out so late on DVD. Oh, I guess it was 2004, but it was hard to find. Oh, it was probably like 2006 or something it came out like so late on DVD oh I guess it was 2004 but it was hard to find yeah

we're all so mistreated in their in their day yeah it was really yeah well we'll get into it yes yeah so look forward to that at the right around the holiday season up next is the poll for January it's not going to happen because we have destroyed democracy we're ahead

of the game here it's going to be gone in america in about a decade so get used to it here because we'll be deciding what the movie is for january but you won't find out until the next talk to the audience i think it's a much better system because it's not us telling you what the movie might be two months from now it's it's us telling you what the movie will be in about three weeks so yeah yeah and you'll still be able to prepare for it then but it'll be we you know we got a big january uh ahead of us with our live show and everything we oh and also too you know we are gonna uh take a little break uh like we did the last few years over the holidays uh you guys will still get podcasts weekly or in their normal slots though it'll be though a uh what a cartoon podcast uh what a cartoon movie podcast on the simpsons

feed uh and a uh another patreon exclusive on the what a cartoon feed yeah and uh that will be the first week of the month for patrons and the second week of the month for people on the free feed and patrons uh unfortunately there are no podcasts that week but if you're on the free feed you get to hear some of our patron uh selections. Yeah, yeah. So please look forward to that as we have happy holidays ahead of us. And we set it up for just a reminder that our Blabin' About Batman, the animated series, season two podcast miniseries is going strong for the rest of the year for $5 and up patrons. Of course, if you sign up for the $5 level, if you're not a patron yet, you can hear all of season one, what we've done so far of season two, and then the rest of season two as it rolls out throughout the rest of the year and of course

the 100 plus miniseries podcast on top of that that i won't mention but we've done a lot in the past nearly six years of the patreon so if you're interested it's happening right now new episodes are rolling out currently to the end of 2022 yeah i'm uh we're about to record the the remaining three pretty soon and i'm really looking forward to to all of them because they all are interesting celebrations of the building Batman mythos over time. So now it's time to talk about what we've been playing and watching that isn't related to the episodes or the podcast series or anything like that. And as for me, I made a big, big purchase in November and I bought a Steam Deck. Wow. And I've become a Steam Deck. Wow. And I've become a Steam Deck sicko.

This is the first time I've been excited about a new console since the Switch. It is fantastic. And I feel like from now on, I am going to be PC and Nintendo console only because it's so nice on Steam where it just retains all of your purchases since you started using the platform there's no cutoffs between generations and it's so i mean not everything works on the steam deck currently there are fixes for a lot of things but it's just so nice to see like i have 600 games i can play on this and download whenever i want and they run great like it basically is a little ps4 pro in your hands essentially uh i i saw our uh pal kat bailey uh who you know

works at ign uh she talks about that the she is warmed up to the steam deck she said at first she thought it was a little rough on things or got a little too hot but it sounds like they've already smoothed out a lot of the problems with it yes they're very good at supporting the platform and it's an amazing little piece of hardware you can do so many things with it you it's basically just like a little linux handheld and uh the emulation capabilities are amazing i'm going to start messing around with that soon because i bought the steam deck dock so you can treat it just like a switch wow yes good i yeah the uh i've uh you know my husband uh don't tell him guys i it that my he might be getting one uh for the holiday season

they're very they're very very available and they didn't used to be like whenever i have to stand in line for anything or get on a list for anything i just forget about it but as soon as i saw shipping in one to two weeks on my on the steam platform i'm like yes order click click click well like you said too this is this interesting shift with nintendo's competitors of sony and microsoft especially both of them just like kind of threw up their hands are like fuck it we'll sell these on pc too like we things will be timed exclusive uh like the new god of war you can't ragnarok you can't just play it on pc now but in a year from now you probably will play it on pc like oh yeah put on there yeah all the old sony stuff from the past a couple

years is on steam now and it works great on deck like the miles morales game the first god of war the first horizon zero dawn like sony is not shy about selling a five million more copies of games they already sold and xbox is kind of just dropping everything on pc at the same time especially with uh their now live anywhere thing which i tried out on my like computer that's how i played that that transformers uh game but uh but i'm excited to hear how good the steam deck is from you bob yeah i bought an irresponsible amount of games during the steam sale including a lot of things i was like i'm not playing this on switch yuck disgusting and i also bought like persona 5 again and this time i will play it because i mean i could

have bought the switch version but hey i think it runs better on the uh on the steam deck yeah even though it's a seven-year-old game well you know what i could play it on game passing and achievements though so steam has achievements too henry but they're not the achievements i've been earning for 15 years well i barely played steam they will let you into heaven with all those points that's good so save them up i want to be buried with my points. And I was also very busy outside of messing around with like just downloading things to Steam Deck and seeing how they work. I did finish a few games because I'm not bringing my Switch to Vancouver when I go for the holidays. I'm bringing my Steam Deck.

So I want to finish Switch stuff. And I did finish a few games. The first one, Bayonetta 3. It sold fairly well. But I feel like no one's talking about it. And man, oh man, I love this game so, so much. And I've been going back and playing the older ones now just because there's nothing else like them and they're so good. Yeah, I saw on Discord like, wait, Bob's playing Bayonetta 1 now?

Like, which I bought, I actually bought that as, I bought this, the Xbox, the remake of it or not remake, but like re-release of it because it came with vanquish because i was like man i should play vanquish again it's great but yeah no i've played a bit of bayonetta uh three as well i haven't beat it yet you know at first i didn't like the i didn't like the the big monster uh addition to the action thing because i thought it made these areas too like wide and empty feeling But pretty soon I got used to it. Yeah, it takes a bit of getting used to. And I feel like over time the games have gotten a lot more friendly

and less adversarial because I was doing well at Bayonetta 3 on Normal Difficulty. I was getting gold and platinum trophies for every battle. And I was like, I'm good at Bayonetta. I'm going to go back to Bayonetta 1. It's like, no, that game is so punishing. You have to grind for healing items. Every fight I'm in I'm good at Bayonetta. I'm going to go back to Bayonetta 1. It's like, no, that game is so punishing. You have to like grind for healing items. Every fight I'm in, I'm like getting silvers and bronzes

and sometimes stone. The first game is so rough in terms of how it treats you, but it's also very well made. And what I love about Bayonetta 3, like all of the games, especially 2 and 3, I love what they do. And it always makes me laugh because it's like, you're playing normal Bayonetta

and now the game's like, okay, now you're doing this. Yes, yes, you're doing this. laugh because it's like you're playing normal Bayonetta and now the game's like okay now you're doing this yes yes you're doing this go do it and you're like what what what the situation is it's so insane what do you mean I'm doing this it's like you're doing it go and they do that like every hour there's a new you're doing this now kind of like setup and they're all like so uniquely crafted this game must have taken a long time to make and it's about 20 20 hours long. It's not a short game either. They're amazing set pieces. They build into it every time. It's something that when I played other games made by Platinum, I'm thinking about, I just played, I was turning it back on.

I didn't beat it or anything, but I was playing in their Transformers game and I was like, oh, right, that's what's missing. The Transformers game can't afford the, it doesn't have the budget for a giant set piece every couple of stages, but Bayonetta can pull that off. And I'm really happy that Bayonetta 3 gets to exist and that we got to play it. It was too bad that I think, I think another reason you don't hear about it was that it had a lot of discourse unrelated to playing the game out there that kind of complicated matters. It's true, but I think it's really worth playing. And, you know, I know God of War and God of Ragnarok are very good, but when I was playing this game and thinking, like,

the choices it makes that no other game makes, this is not a spoiler, but in the ending, there are, like, three choreographed dance sequences with all the characters, and then throughout the entire game, the theme is Moonlight Serenade because they always choose a song, a grandma song with Moon in the title as their main theme and it's the most popular version is by frank sinatra and i'm like yeah yeah moonlight serenade they did their own version of it whatever and then at a certain point during the credits they play the sinatra version that's great they actually

license the sinatra version i know that old man is screaming in hell right now when he finds out what the japanese did to him man compare that to like you know evangelion wouldn't pay for fly me to the moon internationally but they paid for this in bandana 3 yeah it's impressive it's crazy uh the other game i finished finally was kirby in the forgotten land because i stopped playing it when all the ring came out yeah and then i stopped playing elden ring so i went back to this and uh it's great it's worth playing through it's like a 10-hour game and like with all kirby games worth playing through. It's like a 10-hour game. And like with all Kirby games, once you finish it, there's like a second way to play through it.

And like with all Kirby games, the last hour is Evangelion crap. Where it's like a lot of dialogue, a lot of psychological implications, a lot of very weird and ethereal things are happening. It's a great game. If you missed it, I'm sure it'll be on sale. Oh, no't be it's a nintendo it'll be 42 dollars next year not this christmas i feel like forgotten land has been sadly forgotten on all these like best of lists i'm already seeing coming out it's like it's a good it was a really good game i i mean elden ring is still my game of the year at this point but uh though it's not like i play everything like i used to for stuff anyway but yeah i did roll the credits on elden ring i put i put in the time in that one

in terms of scope uh i guess elden ring probably my game of the year but in terms of the fun time i had i think it may be bane out of three whoa and this could be recency bias but i really really like this game a lot you know isn't it nice that we don't have to even think about a Call of Duty or whatever in conversations about Game of the Year? Isn't that great? Yeah, I don't want to play your CIA-funded game. Like, literally. Yeah.

Like, yeah. Read, look it up, guys. It's literally, the Department of Defense is very involved in it. Yes, I'm not surprised at all. In terms of watching stuff, I haven't had a lot of time to watch stuff because of various trips and working on podcasts and stuff. But I did watch War Games for the first time as an adult.

Not the pro wrestling event War Games that happened this month, right? Absolutely not. No, the movie with Matthew Broderick. And I had different memories of this movie. I remember seeing parts of it on TV as a kid. And part of me assumed that the entire movie was like

Matthew Broderick on his computer playing this game and then things happening in the Pentagon and both sides didn't know what the other side was doing Matthew Broderick thinks he's playing a game the people on the other side think it's you know the Russians or whatever no the movie 10 minutes of the movie is

that a lot of the movie is like Hitchcock stuff where he's like on the run he's he's being captured by the army he's got to like figure out how this supercomputer works it's there's a lot going on in this movie wow man yeah you know i feel like i've only ever watched it like in clip packages or yeah flipping to the channel on on tbs or something wow i didn't know i didn't know it was like a big chase movie instead yeah it's uh it's a little too long but it's a very fun little time capsule just showing people of 1983 look what a computer can do a computer can use the phone hackers are dangerous yes good launch nuclear weapons yes yeah and i watched it for a

reason i'll talk about uh very soon oh um josie and the pussycat saw that for the first time people have been talking it up for 20 years, so it did disappoint me a little. But I did like it. It reminded me about how much I had a crush on Rachel Lee Cook, of course. Of course. All the ladies are cute in it. Yes, yes. I have my own preferences, Henry.

Come on. And yeah, it's fun. It's not quite as clever as I was led to believe it would be, but it was much better than it had any right to be. And I like that they don't really care about the canon of the comic. Yeah, yeah. They have a joke of a character saying, why am I even here? Because you were in the comic.

Yeah. I mean, the stars of the show are Alan Cumming and Parker Posey as the villains. They're amazing. They're so much fun. I don't know what they're doing in this movie, but they're very funny in it. They're such a wonderful mega camp duo.

They're just so funny together i love i i love them in it and and yeah it feels like the most like uh it's like august 2001 is the energy of it it's just so like pre-911 yeah opulence of uh meant to be incredibly dated the second they put it out it's meant to be extremely dated it is like they play dreamcasts in it the planes are heading to new york as this movie is being filmed uh look out josie it's happening yeah it made me a little sad because i was like this is the the kind of like snarky but optimistic future that we lost because this is april of 2001 and then it's all like hell from there for the next couple of years yes and. And I also saw because Blank Check is doing a Henry Selick series. And I've seen Nightmare Before Christmas a lot. We did a whole podcast about it just two years ago?

Three. Three? 2019. Holy cow. Yeah. But I had not seen James and the Giant Peach since I was a 14 year old. And I saw it like on pay-per-view. And I watched it again.

And it is an okay movie. And I remember watching it for the first time thinking like did they lie to me because the first 20 minutes are live action the last 10 minutes are live action and there is a 45 minute stop motion special crammed in between these bookends right have you seen this movie I saw it in theaters as a kid but haven't seen it again since it's uh it's it's kind of good but there's some weird tonal stuff in that it kind of nails like the mean-spirited cold-hearted role doll sense of humor i remember that but then there's these folksy randy newman songs in it oh i don't remember that

yes and like i'm sure i didn't know who randy newman was when i saw this originally but when his name popped up i'm like music by randy new. And boy, these are some Randy Newman-ass songs. The Cruel Parental Figurine, and I remember being the blonde from Ab Fab, which I liked at the time. There are two of them. And yes, you do watch about 20 minutes of child abuse before he goes to Fun Peach World. You know, what's funny too is my mom read us James and the Giants Peach when we were uh when i was younger like years before uh the movie came out and i'm actually more attached to that i just when she was reading about like living what stuck out to me wasn't the bug friends it was just like wow you lived inside a peach and then you just eat the wall for dinner boy giant peach i love peaches you get sick

of that peach after a while i'm sure. Well, and being surrounded by sticky peach every side of you. Yeah, yeah. I never read the book as a kid because I was like, a giant peach? Who cares? I loved The Witches so much, and I loved Matilda so much, but I never read the peach book. See, I was more of a Waka and Peach Boy. That was my side of things. And I also saw, because Henry and I are seeing the title of the movie, it's Evangelion 3.0

plus 1.0, Thrice Upon a Time. I hate that subtitle. It sounds like a Shrek ripoff or something. Yes. Look, it wouldn't be Evangelion if it didn't have a stupid name and title. I also love how it breaks the naming convention that they've been using the entire Rebuild series. It's like, you could not advance, you could not return, you could not advance you could not return you could not blank and then thrice upon a time well you know he had 10 whole years to think about it well eight years

to think about it so it was i think uh hideaki ano thought of that on the train rides tsukara when he was like we need a name today uh you'll a once you see the the four uh 3.0 plus 1.0 then you can watch the two hour long documentary on the making of it and you'll see his choices and reasonings for all that stuff now uh i because i were seeing that soon uh in theaters i have not seen any of the rebuild ones outside of the first one so i've been re-watching them first movie absolutely inessential the the least the movie that deserves to exist the least yep yep it's uh just like a clip show package where they reanimate all the clips and then with five percent new footage at the end movie two they kind of do that but then they like shuffle a lot

of things around for the sake of telling a new story like i don't think that was their vision all along it's like let's randomize the story and see where that takes us now i thought like 25 years later they would be a little more sober about the storytelling and like, you know, I'm Anno, I'm in my 50s now. No, he is, if not as horny, more horny than before. Because the first thing you see is a new character talking about like, oh, movie Mari, is like, okay, you know, if you're not horny for Rey or Asuka or Misato, one thing we haven't done is huge titties and glasses. Well, here's the huge titties and glasses character. And she's a coming and she goes sicko mode on some angels. And it's like, gentlemen, start your jerking because that is what this character is all about.

And she is like kind of like a poochie style character. Her pose when falling on top of uh shinji and when they first meet also yes yeah yeah uh though i i'd say the most blatant fan service is asuka talking about her new costume as well yes yes it's like i mean i i mean guys i understand this and i i enjoy i enjoy the female figure but it's like the some of the appeal of this movie is like we can draw nipples on the 14 year olds now you're going to see them that is true

you like these movies yes hey Marie's big introduction is also a cool action scene but yeah one of her first lines is talking about her big titties and she'll keep talking about it let me tell you you're going talking about her big titties and she'll keep talking about it. Let me tell you, like, you're going to hear about these titties a lot.

I bet it's like I was very, I mean, I could smell the model kits flying off the shelves. Yes, smell. But I do like just the novelty of seeing these elements arranged in different ways. And then the ending is a complete curveball where you're like, what's going to happen next? And so I'm excited to watch the third one after this recording. Oh, yeah. Because it's like they basically speed run to the end of the series suddenly, very suddenly in the second movie. They get straight up to episode 19 and the breaching of the front.

And yeah, I really love the remixing of it. Like that was my favorite part of watching it the first time. And my rewatch of 2.22 was that Asuka has a new last name. You know, she comes in earlier. They're like, oh, you hear about this character? Like, I just love that that starts with them seemingly driving to like, well, we're driving to the episode. We're going to remake it when you first meet Asuka. And then Asuka just jumps in. She's like i'm here now fuck you like yeah it is surprising and one thing that surprised me i was watching this uh dubbed i kind of do dubs with anime movies now

just to get all the spectacle i'm not distracted by the words on the screen and i was like oh wow tiffany grant is back as asuka it's cool they got her i didn't realize they got everyone else because their voices have changed a bit over time so So yeah, it's the same voice actors for Misato, Shinji, and Rei. And maybe one other character from the 1997 or whatever ADV dub. So that was really fun to see. Yeah, it's a tale of a lot of dubs because the dubs that are on amazon are brand new dubs these are not them reusing the funimation dubs that had a lot of the same actors in it but i also thought they were going to get the the like oh they can recast everybody for netflix so they'll get them to

do rebuild but instead rebuild brings back all the old people yeah or some old people i think i do like the netflix shinji more than uh spike spencer but it's getting old he's getting old but his voice he still has that voice and he's in his probably 50s right now so yeah his you know he's more of a dweebazoid than a soft boy like the the netflix american shinji uh yeah i mean i i think he that was the one that disappointed me the most i i thought the netflix cast was really great and I was fine with hearing them again. But also the point of them redoing Rebuild and not using the previous Funimation dubs was that the behind the scenes scuttlebutt was that Kara did not like the American dubs and thought for Rebuild the first time and thought they took too many liberties. So these are much more tamped down.

But yeah, I'm really looking forward to hearing your thoughts on 3.0 and i can't wait to see for 3.0 plus 1.0 i gotta do math to see this movie i can't wait to see it at imax i i've already i watched it when it debuted in america but i'm really looking forward to seeing it at imax haven't seen it yet and other things just to speed run through my month i took two big big trips because I left for Tucson immediately after recording the last talk to the audience because my wife, Nina Matsumoto, works for Fangamer. They're located in Tucson. So I got to visit a city I'd never been to before and to see where the company my wife works for. A fantastic company.

Please check out all of their stuff they've got for the end of the year. She's working on a lot of great stuff there. But yeah, Tucson was great. I loved going there. I had lived in the American Southwest for like a summer. So I had not been there since then. So yes, Tucson, it was really good. And also, instead of going to Disney,

we put off a Disney trip for a long time, but then we decided, let's go to some place we've never been before. And that place was Denver. I had never been to Denver. So one big thing we happened to do in Denverver was see we hate movies live it was interesting timing that was fun yes it worked out perfectly and uh this is a bit of my star snoop column i hung out with all the we hate movies guys and they're a class act we hang out and we drank for

about three hours at a bar yeah by my uh by our hotel great guys it was finally great to meet all of them and talk to them and uh the show was hilarious see them live if you can it was great uh they did their they did their episode about war games and i'm sure that will be on their feed probably this summer if you want to hear it yeah yeah man that's uh i'm so jealous i hope they can come back to california soon yeah i really hope so too i also saw other things in denver like the meow wolf installation the big sort of like not quite uh a museum not quite like environmental storytelling just these spaces you walk through with like different like storytelling elements throughout you can piece them together how you want to i think most people in there were high

but they do take your drugs away at the door by the way so really don't bring your own drugs in i didn't learn that the hard way but i've heard some people have learned that the hard way man well i i hadn't even heard of this meow wolf thing before yes check this out uh there's one in santa fe i think there's one in vegas but it is just like a fun space with lots of arts and even like npcs walking around whoa yeah wow that's uh that's interesting and i got to go to mile high comics i've always dreamed to go in there i if reading comics as a kid mile high comics always had ads in in the books of like we've got all the comics biggest comic book store i was like man i wish i could go there i thought as a 10 year old and now you've finally been there it's it's cavernous it looks so nondescript from the

outside it looks like a warehouse once you walk in it's just the biggest comic store you've ever been in in your life they have everything up front they have like all of the most valuable comics that they have behind glass it's sealed in lucite all of the five or six figure prices for all of these i think i sent you one of them yeah no you showed me the amazing fantasy which was like over a hundred thousand or something yeah which yeah uh but yeah a ton of great stuff there uh they've got like a giant like trade paperback uh warehouse in the back you can ask to see if they have certain things it's cool it's an amazing place i think it would destroy you though yeah it would you would have to bring like a third suitcase and take out a loan yeah it's like well can you guys just ship this to me

uh look i bought all this i'll pay the 20 bucks or whatever to ship it my one last thing i want to mention is uh denver is a very very good beer city i was not disappointed we did a lot of beer drinking a lot of brewery hopping denver if you want to drink great beer it's happening in denver although i will say uh nina and i went to uh tucson and denver both very dry climates we were mummies at the end of each trip oh god like when i looked down at my hands when i got back from denver i'm like i'm an old man uh and then the moisture returned to my body like we are spoiled from living in the pacific northwest where we're just like like soaking in it all day but once you go to a like a high climate or a desert climate you realize like i need moisture man i guess next next trip uh you invest in moisturizer yes did you feel any of the thin air?

You and Nina are both very healthy, so I wouldn't think you're gasping for air all the time. No, you know what? Not really, although I would go up a big flight of stairs and think, why am I out of breath? This is really weird. Then I would go, oh, the air is thin here. That's the only time. I'm like, am I out of shape again? No, it's the air.

I swear to God, it's the air. But yeah, I'm sorry. I want to apologize to my wife. I might have forgotten some of the things we've done. It's been a whirlwind month of travel. You guys did so, so much. I loved all your photos from them, too. They were lots of fun.

Oh, and your costumes, too. Your Halloween costumes. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I was Prappa the Rapper, and my wife Nina was Umjama Lammy. And finally, I got a partner to dress up as Lammy. It's an adorable costume pair. Yes. It was really cute.

And she worked a lot harder on her costume because Lammy has a lot more accessories. She's got a wig. I got the Parappa hat I bought in 2001, and I bought a tank top. And to be fair, I bought a tank top, I bought red shoes, and I bought baggy jeans. But Nina had to do a lot more with her. It's her vintage hat thanks that's something yeah nina i had nina with the guitar too which i don't know if she owned was that her personal guitar did she have to get a guitar she got like a rock band guitar from a

the canada's equivalent of goodwill i see yeah that's that's that's a smart way to do it well so for my month i also played a bit of bane 03 uh i also still playing a lot of mario uh rabbits too it's it is a lot of fun it's a lot of fun i i like it startup uh pokemon scarlet though my husband is much farther in it than me and uh and fuikoko's my my boy i love that guy the cute little cute little pepper gator oh i'm the i like the penguin man but uh i don't think i'll play the game oh look quacksley's great. They're all good, but I usually go with the fire type, especially if it's a lizard. I like that.

And lastly, I cannot stop playing Marvel Snap. I just can't. It's such a fun game, and it also is gambling. It's about, oh, I better draw this card. So much is luck-based. How much of this is about you giving them money? I'm concerned. You can play it a lot for free, but I do pay for the season pass each month,

which is about $15. So $15 a month. That's like an MMO cost. Yeah, and I play it a lot. As for watching, well, I watched all the things Disney told me to this month. Why did they get rid of chapek he's doing his job but i did watch all of andor it's a good show it was if you watch one star

wars show and you don't like star wars or are sick of star wars and or is that show to watch it's uh it actually feels like i'm not saying it's as good as breaking bad or sopranos or whatever but it is that type of show and good at it uh and it's full of great actors doing good acting this was my favorite thing about endor it brought back britishness to star wars star wars the original has a certain feel to it because they filmed it in freaking england and their their biggest stars they flew over to england to film it but they can't cast everybody in america and fly into england so most of the supporting players even in the original star wars are british uh actors going like oh i don't think so and that's what andor is full of

and i love that well you know i have not engaged with any star trek content since episode nine star wars oh sorry whatever star whatever whatever nerd sorry star wars i've not engaged in any star trek content since episode nine star wars oh sorry whatever star whatever whatever nerd sorry star wars i've not engaged in any star wars stuff since episode nine if i ever do it'll probably be this but i i i don't know i have a lot of things i want to see i and it's 12 episodes so yeah not not six like obi-wan was uh i watch wakanda forever it is really good it was the i don't uh yeah i'd say it's probably the best of this phase of phase four it's some people have brought up it's a little too complicated i kind of agree i think they handled though the passing of their lead character uh about as well as they could with being thrown that kind of curveball in production i love namor namor i've

been waiting to see namor forever in a marvel movie and uh huerta i believe is the actor's last name he is great great great great as him and yeah i mean just the acting in it is really good too it's uh it's a it's a lot of fun and it has an ending that jerks some tears out of you and also this month i've been re-watching all of mr show with my husband uh he'd never seen it i talk about mr show all the time and so he's like you know what let's let's watch it finally but he he insisted on seeing it all and me and you both agree that when you introduce someone to mr show you don't show them the first season yeah you save that for afterwards uh because i mean i didn't see it on tv uh i i saw it for the first time when the dvd

started coming out in the early aughts and when i started watching i'm like this isn't that good what were people talking about but then season two starts and you're like okay it's good yeah no i that's it's like there's two good sketches in season one like pit pat and uh i'm sure one other but but yeah then when season two started i was like okay here's some of the feel but then the first episode of season three i was like right okay this this is still genius i do still love this okay good and and he's enjoying it too and now he's getting all my jokes one like i say like you see this is why i say i ain't afraid of no roller coaster that's why I say that.

How many references? I mean, your husband is a bit younger. How many references do you have to explain? I've had to explain a few. Like, this is what Oasis was. So, of course, this is after the OJ. No, he got the OJ Simpson one, but I couldn't believe they did an OJ car chase bit in it, honestly. None of us.

We were all weak to that. Yeah. Oh, no. Heaven's Chimney. I did have to go like, OK, so Heaven's Chimney's uh heaven's gay or yeah the last tv thing i want to talk about is or streaming thing is i wanted to watch disenchanted because a friend of the show griffin newman is is in it uh he is the the cute little sidekick pip and he is really great at it and he actually he is the narrator of the movie like the first voice you hear in Disenchanted is his voice.

Oh, wow. I've actually not seen Griffin act before. I'm a podcast fan. I did not engage with the other stuff. So I feel like it'll be so distracting to hear like, is Blank Check starting? It might be. Is a chipmunk hosting this podcast? But I hope this leads him on to bigger and better things.

So that'll mean he'll be too busy for our podcast that's true uh but i had never seen the action i'd never actually seen enchanted before i'd only watched the opening cartoon because it is james baxter mega cartoon it's an amazing first 10 minutes i will say one thing if you watch them back to back as i did and obviously the movies were made like 15 years apart is that enchanted wants to give you a big budget feel of like we filmed this all over new york city we're walking through times square we're walking through central park this feels like new york doesn't it like this doesn't feel fake at the very start of disenchanted they're like well it's time to move out of our new york apartment we're gonna be living in a nondescript suburbs that can be filmed anywhere oh boo yeah it's i i did like this i i saw enchanted for the first time and

maybe i talked about it on one of these podcasts and i feel like it's a movie that i appreciate and did have fun with but i feel like it wants to be so much meaner but it's not allowed to be yeah and they you can feel them push up against that too and disenchanted i i don't want to spoil too much of it but there is some fun stuff and there's some other things where you go like oh this was a budget thing or i bet they wanted to do more than this but they filmed during covid or whatever though i also want to say that one of the best things about disenchanted other than of course our friend downtown griffin nooms who's so great but also the first movie has adina menzel in it and they don't ever sing they make up for that mistake in this movie big time okay that's right also uh enchanted the first

movie directed by kevin lima director of the goofy movie the goofy movie man himself i'm just learning this now i didn't know he was married to he's been married to brenda chapman for like 40 years yeah they're they're a real powerhouse animation couple they really are yeah i uh yeah i learned that i think when i started following lima on twitter he was one of the guys talking about how uh brenda deserves a bit more recognition than she usually gets in uh histories of disney renaissance especially uh and lastly you know mainly i've just been uh pre-preparing stuff for the seattle move gonna gonna start packing up some things though we don't have like a target date yet but uh certainly in the first half of the year but my my husband you know i miss him he's having a good time in his new job we i can at least you like watch like watch mr

show with him over over zoom yes uh the pandemic taught us all different ways to communicate with each other and spend time with each other uh though i'm looking forward to seeing him for the holidays he's he's coming here and then i'm going up with him we're actually doing like a double trip basically like he's flying down here and then we're gonna spend the holidays with my my mom and stepdad and then for new year's weekend i'm flying back with him to seattle because there's pro wrestling uh on the the 5th of january or the 4th of january that i'm gonna see there so my holiday plans i mean you'll hear about this next month i guess is i'm going to vancouver of course uh get away from my family spend some more time with the matsumotos see what they're up to

it'll be nice they do buy me a lot of sushi dinners oh boy it's hard to say no to that man yeah i oh actually yeah i'm gonna bring up my what are my holiday plans is sponsored by bob mackie because oh what's this well there's some very there's some very nice frozen steaks in my freezer that i'm saving to bring up to my mom and stepdads so my stepdad could make the steaks uh because he knows how to cook steaks better than me yeah i'm gonna be like wow look at these and these are all free from bob who doesn't eat meat i guess i can reveal my steak fraud in that uh retronauts we're doing at new ads now and uh we omaha steaks is one of our sponsors and uh jeremy my podcasting partner there said yeah i'll do the ads for these bob's vegetarian don't send him anything uh i'll handle these

they sent me a box of steaks while i was gone and uh i said henry have at it although i did keep the uh scalloped potatoes and apple tarts that were in the box so it's like yes i was sent meat but it was against my will i didn't take anything i swear but but here's my ad omaha steaks please partake of their delicious steaks my mom loves omaha steaks oh that's i uh yeah i got so far had the hot dogs and the burgers and they're both real good the hot dogs uh were quality hot dogs i haven't had the chicken yet or the uh bacon wrapped filet mignon uh things which cert that's that's the thing i'm saving for christmas to surprise my my stepdad with you can taste the nebraska flavor in every bite it's frozen in it uh moving on to comments for talking simpsons the first episode we're talking about right now is Radio Bart.

And Samwise says, as a seven to eight year old living in the early 2000s, I actually got a Mr. Microphone for Christmas after seeing it advertised on TV. So maybe it was one of those cyclical things that they try to sell a new generation of kids on every decade or so. It never worked properly and was always a mess of feedback. You know, Bob speaking Marge experience. Going back to the comment so i definitely felt validated when i eventually saw this episode and realized they were making fun of it at least for the first part also there were eventually chucky cheeses in canada by the time i was growing up though like most things in life they never came to quebec and i only got to go and visiting my cousins in toronto so you had to go to the big city

to get big city toronto to see the the go to the big city to get city toronto to see the the charles entertainment cheese that to know that they were still selling mr microphones in the early aughts i guess i guess it makes sense you need stuff like that probably still lives in the bad dad impulse gift uh a thing of a cvs uh yeah they'll check out at the liquor store oh shit it's Christmas. This says it comes with 200 games, Tommy. Here you go. One of these is Mario.

Yeah, I didn't know they were selling Mr. Microphones in the 2000s. I didn't know about the cheese invasion of Canada. Yes, yeah. I wonder if those ones in Toronto are full munch or not, to take the phrasing from our pals at podcasts right i also wonder how uh the the growth and the popularity of five nights at freddy's has uh affected how children view chucky cheese although that game is a parody of like the pre-1990 chucky cheese experience yeah yeah and you know does pewdiepie playing it make those kids want to play it more or less i mean i i told you my shocking experience, and this was like five years ago, going to

a Target and seeing children's Five Nights at Freddy's clothes and going like, what the hell? And then realizing like, oh, right. It's because PewDiePie, all these kids watch PewDiePie play these games. And like Markiplier, a funny side story here. I was curious about these games and I kind of dabbled in them when they were like really new but they're not for me but you know i've got time and it's like i'll kind of have a four hour five nights at freddy's lore video on in the background why not and it's hosted by an adult man with facial hair this will pay off in a second and he's talking about the

lore and he's he's very informative and entertaining and he's like then he's like oh yeah and actually i did a video about five nights at Freddy's, uh, you know, when it was new and then it cuts to a video of him as a child. Oh my God. So this, this guy's like, this guy's like 21 right now. And it's like,

yes, I was a YouTuber when I was 13. Here's a clip. And it's like him as a child talking about the first five nights at Freddy's. It's just like, I, I, uh,

I died on the spot. Yeah. And I was resurrected. I'm not ready for children YouTubers to be adult YouTubers, to age into adult YouTubers, but I guess that's how time works. And it's really interesting where we internalize all this TV stuff and all the quotes from The Simpsons and stuff. These guys internalized all of the Let's Play videos.

On the spot, he was like, I memorized Markiplier's video about the first game. And then he does it off the top of his head, all the markiplier stuff from the let's play video of that this is what kids who are now uh 20 to 25 grew up with that's wild yeah i mean and we're the guys who repeated msd3k lines all the time so it's not like we're that different but it does feel different doesn't it we're also the guys who are like, these streamers, they're less important than us journalists. Yeah, well, they don't even have the standards we hold ourselves to. Yeah. So also on that episode, Joe Hodgson says, my Chuck E. Cheese memories are all from the late 80s. My grandmother would sometimes drive my great grandparents up to visit my family.

And it was my great grandparents that always wanted to take us out to lunch at chucky cheeses they would not entertain anything else because it's what we liked and they just like seeing us have fun when we visited them it was always mcdonald's we always ate our pizza in the birthday room because my sister was terrified of the animatronic elvis impersonator in the regular room which i believe was a lion that pizza was terrible but we didn't care since we got to play in the ball pit and so forth there was also a toys r us next door which was some fantastic placement later on i think in 1992 i would go to my last chucky cheese birthday party for a friend and it's a memorable one because we pumped tokens into the simpsons arcade game until finally beating it i was the last to arrive so i had to play as marge but the joke's on all the rest because marge's

vacuum rocks it's great a lot of reach on that she's the donatello she is the i never considered that she is a donatello maybe maybe i talked about this on the episode but yeah i do remember the elvis impersonator lion or panther or whatever and he was basically in his own dark room with with not a lot of room for people you just kind of like go in there and push a button he comes to life and does his thing and it was very creepy i mean that's where all the five nights at freddy stuff comes from just like the robots are creepy and they always have been and the simpsons drilled into that in 1992 or 91 or whenever yeah showbiz pizza had the same thing of like there was like the one room i i see it now as

you know laying out your restaurant of like well you know we can't have all the kids in one room if we want a private room we can't put the full band in here we can just put one animatronic that's like where you get your lap dance it is a champagne room yeah of chucky's yeah i no i mean look i never loved the the solo acts as much as the full band but as i've said before i'm more of a showbiz boy which uh i i'm just like rich evans dick the birthday boy right oh great great new video on that yeah by the way that was great then learning the history of dick the birthday boy i love hearing that so up next we have uh tales from the public domain uh and rose says i know it's pathetically misogynistic in the context of the episode, but I love the Patty and Salma siren scene so much that I have a custom made poster of the two of them above my desk in my home office.

It makes me chuckle and also gives me something to aspire to. Can't wait to be hairy, chubby babe lying in a beach instead of working. Not what the writers were going for, I suppose. But that was always my reading of the two of them in this episode. i hope i've given this moment the simpsons a new feminist life i i love it being an aspirational thing like we we've said it many times before we're actually about to record a another patty and selma uh side plot episode about the jokes are that they're disgusting but i think mean we haven't talked about it yet but i think it reads more like proud women who don't worry about what society thinks they should be yeah yeah it's like we have six months of

maternity leave we're never going to use yeah yeah uh i think yeah i mean the ob the miss the patty salmo started off as misogynistic characters it's like look at these lazy hairy women who are rude and sarcastic but now they rule and we love how comfortable they are being themselves yeah and i love that the way they're drawn is the sirens uh the looks on their face are just like yeah we're proud and sexy we don't care yeah uh joe hodgson again uh on this one had a good point i should have thought of i have to believe that the writers intended to use come sail away for the river segment but someone reminded the staff that south park had already used the song in a prominent way a few years earlier so they went with the lady mr roboto

is too specific a song for the segment in my opinion as it's easy go-to for generic robot jokes as we saw recently with futurama i don't particularly like this one it just feels half-assed a lot of the jokes are easy and very little is brought for the stories by the show an altogether forgettable episode of the simpsons and come sail away makes so much sense he's literally sailing on the well you're not sailing but he's on a boat in it yeah they did use it in south park but they didn't play the song it was like carmen sings yeah he had to sing the whole thing i think it was in the the halloween episode i've seen the first eight episodes a billion times because that's all there were for about six months if he hears the start of the song he has to see the whole thing and i remember laughing the most at him kind of singing it to himself just to get through like but then on the

i think it was the chef aid soundtrack he sings the full thing in character like the long way they needed a lot of material for that album i definitely think it was probably come sail away that they either couldn't get or decided south park made it too famous and i kept looking for it i thought it was in the comments on the episode but it must have been somebody on twitter the discord who said it to me apologies for me forgetting but people pointed out that the scene in the episode where lisa finds the true dauphin uh that was in the joan of arc recent then recent joan of arc movie the messenger that so it was a direct parody of uh the that luke masson film and the messenger of finding the true dauphin it's a flew over my head i don't know if i'll go back to another luke masson movie probably not probably not up next we have lisa the greek and i will say that we put it out

there to our listeners uh hey let us know what the spread means. Let us know what the sports gambling thing means. And boy, oh boy, did they deliver to the point where they gave us so much information we can't read it on this podcast. But I did read it, and part of me went, duh. But the other part of me was like, okay, this makes sense. done this uh chapo trap house has talked a lot about gambling and its place in society and how they're just gambling everywhere and it was i wish i had heard that before we did this but there's a lot of like gambling on college campuses now because it's like they can't sign everyone up for credit cards anymore so now they're getting kids involved in gambling it's uh it's crazy i think you use the term in with that recording the last ten dollars uh style of advertising these days like everybody just wants to get your last bucks yeah a special shout out to patreon subscriber mitt zula uh who from the perspective of an official vegas odds maker i explained it to us in in great detail but also too long of detail to reread here but go go on the patreon read for

yourself if you also have questions but i think somebody explained it best is like sure you know team x can beat team y but how much can they beat them by that's where the gambling comes in but anywho yes but we appreciate it i read it all but there's a lot of info there so if you're a patron jump on the patron comments for that episode check it out they did a lot of work detailing it for us. Dumb Dumbs when it comes to gambling. Moving on, Nathaniel Lockhart says, just a heads up, the guest stated the Bills lost three Super Bowls in a row, but it was actually four. I'm a native of Western slash upstate New York by way of Rochester,

and yes, a Bills fan. My dad actually went to the first Bills Super Bowl with Norwood kicking the field goal attempt wide right on the final play of the game to lose 20-19. Was that the Ace Ventura movie plot? No, that was a different, that was the Dolphins. Laces out. Yeah, laces out.

That's all I knew. And also transphobia. He later said he knew he would miss it and as apparently Norwood wasn't looking great in the pregame warmups. Needless to say, the pain runs very, very deep and was even worse during the bill's record 18 years without a single playoff appearance yeah that's rough but then again but you know bob's from the land of the browns where they never they they still haven't won a bunch of big losers in that area but hey the calves oh the calves do great they took it home i got king james yeah uh also on that episode some bloke says i am not a football fan but i am a soccer fan so i guess i am a football fan who lived in the czech

republic for several years no matter how ubiquitous people think ads for sports betting have become in the u.s and it's definitely noticeable don't get me wrong it's insignificant compared to the deluge of ads we would get during matches over there the czech national league is literally sponsored by a gambling app company this is not exactly uncommon as for example the english lower division is also sponsored by a betting company so their ads and names are everywhere and commercial breaks for every league are nothing but gambling apps some not even sports-related. Meanwhile, no one is allowed to advertise alcoholic beverages on TV,

presumably to protect the children. It's a mind-boggling thing to behold as an expat. This is all a long way of saying that Moe handling all the booking is the really weird part of this premise these days, no matter where you live. Yeah, I miss the days of the small town bookie now it's just like these mega corpse uh getting you to destroy your life on their apps i guess that's the way of everything isn't it all the small even small business bookies

are getting uh destroyed by the big the big apps now uh i also yeah that's such a funny hypocrisy that uh legally you can't advertise alcohol on tv because that would corrupt children but if they see gambling that's fine yes stardom young up next we have uh blame it on lisa and locurus has two comments we rarely do this it's unprecedented but locurus you're the commenter of the month they're both great comments yeah and locurus says uh so the bit about the phone company reminds me of when i used to work at a call center for a cellular company, which may or may not still exist. When I worked there, Singular got bought by AT&T and rebranded and then unbranded back to Singular. And let me tell you, the people who phoned us to make sure they were getting their 10% company discount were not very understanding.

And we had to port them back and forth between the different customer service portals. Ooh, that sounds like hell. Yeah, both on your side, but also like a Kafka-esque nightmare for somebody else. Like, I need help with my singular thing. Well, AT&T bought that part of it. Let me send you to their call center. And then I go, no, it sounds, honestly, it's like Nick with his bowling balls. I haven't flushed a phone in years.

It's singular. I know I mostly had AT&T, but I think my first phone was a Nokia. with his bowling balls i i haven't flushed a phone in years it's singular i just i know like i mostly had at&t but i think my first phone was a nokia i don't know what happened to that company uh yeah they uh they made a video game machine didn't they that's the the uh what the hell was that engage yeah yeah i felt like nokia's like me and a lot of my friends have because they're like the cheapest like bargain basement cell phones now what's the and then it became boost mobile there's a new phone thing that's like i know it's cheap because it gets advertised on pro wrestling which is usually the cheaper demographic is it the jitterbug yeah it's it is a green thing it's like a green little fuzzy monsters. Cricket.

I don't know. It is Cricket Wire. It's Cricket? Wow. And Lockeris also said, Frankie Muniz actually does remember making Malcolm in the Middle. While he has like nine concussions and severe migraines, which no doubt contributed,

he also says some of that lack of specific memory comes from filming a ton of that show, and it all blurs. he talks more about it on his podcast he did with steve-o and how frankie muniz can't remember malcolm is kind of an invention of his season on dancing with the stars and lockers then linked to it which i don't agree with muniz politically but i kind of want to pull up that podcast because steve-o and him are both uh heavy concussion sufferers so i think it'd actually be kind of an interesting conversation that's a lot of concussions yeah yeah is that all from racing uh i think so okay well after one i'd be out not to victim blame or

anything yeah the brain is a funny thing i have had no concussions but we were doing the salmon max podcast and during that research process i was like uh looking at random sam and max things and i was like oh oh no in 2014 they had an exhibit at the cartoon museum here in sf why didn't i go and then i dig into it further oh i did go and here's a picture so the brain is odd the brain is odd isn't helped by concussion no i mean look concussions are horrible i wish i know too much about them because I love pro wrestling. And that happens to a lot of pro wrestlers, sometimes with a lot of tragedy. The things your brain catalogs are very strange because this is going to sound very random,

but my wife just watched the Denzel Washington movie Virtuosity. Okay. And I was like, oh, We Hate Movies has a great episode about that. It's an early one. And she dug it up and she was listening to it. And I was like, actually, I remember listening to this while i was walking to the dentist oh that's so funny yeah my brain remembers that and there are so many important things that i forget but i remember like yes you were walking to the dentist while listening to this and i

remember like the jokes from that walk yeah wow that's so funny i yes i've had that too where i listen to an old podcast and think about like oh oh, this, I listened to this when I was on the train to this place, or I listened to the, a big one for me is there's a specific episode of the best show podcast. I listened to the, the one Tom Sharpling's that was on my first plane ride to Japan. And I listened to it actually like twice because the flight was so long and i was trying to sleep but couldn't and so yeah every time i listen to it i am instantly teleported back to sitting in that dark plane for uh 10 hours on on my flight all of our memories are podcast based well it used to be simpsons based now it's podcast yeah and so um we're moving on to what a cartoon comments transformers the movie

uh i'm glad everyone wasn't mad at me they enjoyed how upset i was getting about this movie there was uh i i remember seeing a couple compliments from people i know who are bigger transformers fans than me uh who complimented especially you bob for you know they've heard every riff they thought they could hear about jokes that you can make about the transformers movie but you made some new ones and so they got to hear some fresh content about it i really hate going into a thing with like this thing sucks you're gonna hear about it uh because that's just a very played out kind of uh online personality but i i like to try to articulate myself better and i'm glad people think i did yeah uh so moving on david thompson says i'm on

bob's side for this one by the way i didn't select these these comments no i did i did yeah uh my childhood cartoon obsessions went he-man thundercats ghostbusters ninja turtles so transformers just seemed to miss me although i knew it existed and got a few toys as gifts for relatives who didn't really know me i remember watching this first when i was 17 with friends who had nostalgia but i didn't and thought it was the most complex basic movie i'd seen and i still feel that way after re-watching in anticipation for this podcast great soundtrack though yeah um i mean my thoughts are immortalized now in that in that five hour long mp3 but i totally agree it missed me and i still don't get it, but it is fascinating, but unpleasant.

I like David's description of the most complex basic movie because it technically is basic and for children, but because it doesn't care about you knowing any of these characters, it's just like, they just throw dozens of names at you over and over and over again, which obviously if you're playing with the toys you're like yeah sound wave star scream laser beak we know them all but my butt my buddy cup but if the characters are saying it and then everybody's saying it through a voice filter the entire time probably is hard to follow for for new people uh sean ryan also says on transformers the movie it is a catalyst for something that literally changed my life when generation 2 hit my nostalgia for the original series began to swell i was desperate to find copies of the movie soundtrack the 1993 marvel

comic book tie-ins were currently running so i wrote into their letter page to ask if they knew where to find it they printed my letter in issue 11 including my full home address which seems irresponsible of marvel since i was only 16 a minor i was soon contacted by other fans all over the globe some of which i'm still friends with to this day i got into the world of anime tape trading for japanese transformer shows and i even took part in a fanzine one person straight up sent me a cassette of the soundtrack which i cherished until someone helped me find the cd oh that's very sweet yeah i like it it connected people it's it's very odd and dangerous if you think about it but so many of those fan magazines pre-internet were about you writing and saying oh i i love vampyra and i'm collecting pictures print my address send me

things so like a ton of fan magazines are just like names and addresses like of like-minded nerds because you could not just go to a message board you could not go to your local uh whatever you might not even have a comic book store to hang out and so it's like somebody talked to me about this weird thing i'm into yeah it doesn't feel crazy now in the world we live in to talk about how the search for like-minded interested people and nerdy niche things you like like now thanks to the internet and also that all movies are marvel movies now too you or transformers movies that now you're exposed to that niche interest all the time but i just want time to myself now i love that this that sean was able to connect to use this to connect with other

transformers fans and get him into this world of transformers deeper into the world of transformers and anime thanks to simply his love of the soundtrack of transformers it's a good soundtrack i'll say that moving on to kim possible kimitation nation was the episode selected by our patron and doc baghead says since it comes up in this episode i refuse to believe that taco bell's crunch wrap supreme isn't some attempt that created an actual knocko whether a taco bell product tester was watching can possible and realize that was something they could make or if post 9-11 the idea of a hurting country needed more food stuffed into other foods

to heal with just in the air if that's not not just inside a taco i don't know what would satisfy your insane demands. I know some people would say a Crunchwrap, a specialty food made by the chef Christopher, is more of a burrito than a taco, but so is the nacho. Ron folds up a soft-shell taco like a disgusting little diaper to cram it into his mouth

every time, and those internet weirdos who cook stuff from TV shows dumping movie theater nachos into a hardcore taco shell are missing the point entirely. The naco is a burrito and Ron should have called it a buraco. And that's my naco truth or rant. Thank you.

Thank you. I think I only briefly touched on the naco, which is something the fans really love about Kim Possible. But yeah, I think looking at the animation for it, I think the writers, they wrote the idea of a naco, but the animators realized like, no, this needs to be a soft tortilla. And this is really a, yeah, I think it is a crunch wrap supreme for sure.

I know I'm hungry. I'm getting hungry for Taco Bell. We started recording at nine and it's 2pm and with no lunch break. So we're both very hungry right now. You know, we'll head up to the Taco Bell Cantina just up the street. I've been so tempted to order Taco Bell, but because there is a Mexican restaurant so close to me that is a million times better, I could not live with myself

if I was eating Taco Bell while thinking about the Mexican restaurant so close to me. If you got delivered Taco Bell and then you see so nearby a taco, you're a really great Mexican place, you'd feel intense guilt. Yes.

Yes. And also I've resisted this. I did a retronauts live show about food games and I had to do a lot of McDonald's research and it was making me very hungry for McDonald's. But I fought my programming. Yes. And I have not had McDonald's in years and I'm trying to not have it. It's like, oh, I really want a Filet-O-Fish.

No, no, I can't. It's just, yeah, they got they got you by the balls there. I'm impressed with your ability not have it. I was like, oh, I really want a Filet-O-Fish. No, no, I can't. It's just, yeah, they got you by the balls there. I'm impressed with your ability to resist it. Yes, I'm trying to fight the programming. The brain chemicals, they want. They want because of my childhood, I was exposed to it. Moving on. Harry Thornton also said about Kim Possible,

the full story of Pixar's views on Buzz Lightyear's Star Command cartoon is complicated. John Lasseter is said to have hated it though for unclear reasons tad stone speculated in an interview that since john envisioned buzz as having the tone of a more serious gi joe style action cartoon the series comedic tone might have turned him off but lightyear director angus mclean did acknowledge the series on twitter when in his view it's a spin-off cartoon of this film akin to what real Ghostbusters is to Lightyear's Ghostbusters there's a further Batman Beyond connection as well to Kim Possible where they essentially remake the show's premise with the episode The Fearless Ferret Adam West guest stars as an old Batman-like superhero who trains Ron to

become his successor and of course twists and hijinks ensue as ron is no terry mcginnis and you know i remember watching that episode because i did want to see adam west on the show it did not hit me like how obvious it is that it's a parody of batman beyond because it's batman training yes terry ron voice guy yeah it's crazy but i gotta i'm pulling up that one on disney plus after this you know what it's good that speaking of john lester and buzz lightyear uh nobody is talking about the lightyear movie anymore it had its moment and uh i assume it's on disney plus now i assume i can watch it if i wanted to i'm not gonna do that no no way no i'll wait for the strange world or

something i don't know you know i'm gonna watch elvis soon i meant to watch based on how it's doing in theaters you won't have to wait long for strange world or something. I don't know. You know, I'm going to watch Elvis soon. I meant to watch it based on how it's doing in theaters. You won't have to wait long for strange world. Christmas day release strange. Honestly, two weeks from now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, moving on to talking Futurama, Kif gets knocked up a notch and Hey, Nina Matsumoto says correction deployed as requested. You are wrong. This is, this is, I do this on podcast all the time.

I think my wife said this and she's like, actually, I didn't say that. Nina says, uh, I like Bashir. wrong this is this is i do this on podcast all the time i think my wife said this and she's like actually i didn't say that um nina says i like bashir the character i absolutely hate is the fake recurring holodeck lounge singer vic fontaine screw that character he made this show way worse in the final season and i hate holodeck episodes in general all across tng and ds9 and voyager the only good one is the one that introduces reginald barclay because it's about what a loser he is for being hooked on it i like that character just wanted to add quote but nina what about unquote no it's okay to not like things shout out to other holodeck haters yes it's fine to hate holodecks i like the holodeck episodes but nina shared a previous

tweet she'd done on this subject that really sums up her feelings which are holodeck episodes to her are martin playing the loot and she's bart running away from him playing the loot but meanwhile i like that loot play i want hey give me more of that loot playing but thank you nina for the the clarification uh also jason lu said on this episode star trek lower decks provided a canon explanation for how holodecks are cleaned on starships the job is a menial chore that typically goes to lower ranked officers on the ship the bio filters are apparently located in a panel behind a wall which must be collected into a cart and transported elsewhere to be perhaps reconstituted in some way and yes the joke is that most of the time crew members use the holodeck in

such a way that it would fill up these bio filters so uh wow that lower decks goes there with the cum jokes i guess i only watched the first episode i should i should watch it more it's probably i've heard it gets better uh i've heard the early episodes would lead on i've heard it's better than most of the things that look like Rick and Morty written by some people who worked on Rick and Morty shows. And I love the cast. It's probably better than Solar Opposites. Yeah, and you know what?

I've heard people say Solar Opposites gets better too. I'll tell you what wasn't great that I think I forgot to mention last time. I watched that Halloween special that was curated by Justin Roiland and the not Australianralian guy from uh smiling friends from smiling friends from smiling friends yeah which well so he's working with the non-australian guy now i thought he was working with the australian guy he works with both of

those guys but so the two of them together did like basically an anthology special full of like fucked up cartoons that are uh hosted by their characters their characters are all right but the cartoons most of them aren't that great so there's no okay there's an okay couple but some are like oh this is just a new ground sketch that is the punchline is obvious from the second it starts and they don't uh uh they don't surprise you is it justin roland kind of doing his two characters he does those two characters i mean they're funny voices yeah one hey brad whatever the the not australian guy he's also only doing he's doing his voice too i don't think it's possible for him to do another voice he's got a great voice i love his voice yeah uh moving on now we're talking about talking to the

hill the episode was propane boom and uh andrew bouvier says uh regarding whether propane boom and Andrew Bouvier says regarding whether propane is liquid or gas the answer is yes it's commonly referred to as LP which stands for liquid propane when it's stored in tanks the big tanks in Strickland the trucks or the small ones used for grilling the pressure keeps it in a liquid state when it's released from a tank and hits atmospheric pressure it reverts back to a gas so that it can be then fed through a pipe to be in your grill stove water heater etc and be ignited now this is bob speaking i didn't remember this at the time but i do remember the episode in which peggy is tutoring david kalaliki i think that's how you say his name right um and she's coming up with mnemonic devices to teach him about propane it's like her but not her mnemonic device or propane is like think of it like gatorade it's

a liquid but when you dump it on your coach it's a gas right right right man and i forget that that's how i remember uh that's uh oh yeah that character's voiced by brennan fraser yeah yeah about to hit a new uh new level of fame he could be an oscar winner by next year who knows right what's the name of the movie the whale okay yes i haven't seen it but uh i'm looking forward to seeing it oh it probably will make me sad there's there's a new gay it's it's uh i believe his character is uh queer in it there's a new gay love movie uh that's out about like it's called spoiler alert because it's about one partner in a gay relation it's based on real life and one partner in a gay relationship gets terminal illness and dies. And so I was like, you know, I don't think I want to watch this.

It looks like good acting and stuff, but it seems like a bummer. But anyway. Yeah, good vibes only. And finally, our last comment is from Matt Quintalia, who says, The whole King of the Hollywood Hills promotional stunt reminds me of an expanded version of the promos mike judge did for the final episode of beavis and butthead's original run in the weeks leading up to the mtv finale they ran promos where judge played a redneck hunter who would brandish a knife and talk about how he was going to put beavis and butthead down like they were diseased livestock and yeah when i

read that comment it was all flooding back to me. Like, yeah, I see it right there. In fact, I just sent you the clip if you want to play it. Oh, sure. Mike Judge, creator of Beavis and Butthead. It was about five years ago when I first made that Beavis and Butthead. And boy, them boys ain't caused me nothing but worry. That little old Beavis, he ain't got a good mind. And I'm tired. And it's time to take them out yeah oh beavis and butthead are dead the final episode what a great fake out yeah i

love how that uh the whole promotional campaign for that i mean judge very funny basically playing a king of the hill character like one of dale's friends but also the entire thing is making you think they're going to kill beavis and butthead in that episode but actually principal mcvicker is the one who dies and everyone just assumes he was a butthead because they forget to go to school right they don't go to school for so long that they all assume they're dead and they celebrate that they're dead. Like, yeah, it's so,

and just an excuse for Beavis and butthead to watch clips of watching TV shows for the whole episode. I, I also was reminded of their finale too, because people were resharing on Thanksgiving stuff from the, the Thanksgiving they did with Kurt Loder. Yeah. The clip of Kurt Loder,

uh, like them saying like, you know, you watch TV and it sucks. It sucks. And he, but you keep watching it there's something good that's going to come on and Loder says like oh that's like life right it's like we're talking about TV like I don't know

come on Loder open your ears I remember watching that live and recording it that's good time that aired right before the end there but yes thank you Matt for sharing that it is very similar production of tricking people through ads that a creator of the show will kill a character, not that the show will kill a character.

It's much more meta. I like it. So that's it for this episode of Talk to the Audience. Thanks for listening. And, you know, there's a lot going on right now at Talking Simpsons, especially on the Patreon, because, again, like normally we're doing Talking to the Hill and Talking Futurama, especially on the Patreon, because again, like normally we're doing Talking of the Hill and Talking Futurama, but currently we are doing our limited miniseries, which means eight new episodes of Blab and Bat Batman.

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one of the best Christmas animated films there ever has been. And, oh, and I mean, also the Batman stuff. I can't wait to talk about Legend of the Dark Knight, especially. I'm really looking forward to it. Me too. So again, thanks again for listening, folks. We'll see you again next time for another episode of Talk to the Audience. Take care.

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