Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - October 2020

Episode Date: November 3, 2020

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I heartily endorse this event or product. one uh bernie baby bob mackie and who else is here with me today henry gilbert on the road to cincinnati right now not really i'm not traveling very very soon uh cincinnati you got to try that skyline chili everybody but yes in case you're new to the network welcome and thank you yes welcome uh in case you don't know this is what we do at the end of every month for patreon at the beginning of every month for the free feed we uh talk about news in the simpsons world news in our world and then we go over questions and comments from the last round of episodes for both talking simpsons and what a cartoon and this is uh we're square in the middle of month eight of quarantine oh yeah i uh bring up the death toll weather guy i wonder what it sounds like to go back to our march one like our end of march one

yeah just was beginning i've been listening during this uh last month i got into a couple new podcasts and i went back to their start of the quarantine ones and i think like oh you fools you poor fools but i probably sound exactly the same everybody sounds different yeah everyone sounds like they have hope in their voices i don't think we've lost it completely but i think we've all aged about five years since the days of March, the heady days of March. Even though we've all, like, should be taking better care of ourselves than ever. Yes, I'm healthier than ever, and I hate it. But, yeah, welcome all our new listeners and all the regulars here.

And it was a fun month of good stuff. And, boy, a big month coming forward here too for you guys in november oh yeah and uh boy uh most months have gone by very fast like a gray blur but i think it's just because we are one month before the election and something new and crazy is happening every day like the month kicked off with the president getting covid yes and then it's just been like a new notable crazy thing every day since then so uh frankly this month uh hasn't ended for me i know it's never ending september august just like that gone in a snap and october every day has felt like two through five days like every single day

uh i'll tell you listeners i really really was hoping we would get to we'd be forced to record new openings to many of our pre-recorded podcasts to be like obviously recorded this before president Trump uh xyz we didn't get our COVID Christmas it sucks it sucks I mean look hey he's got a lot of comorbidities and uh who knows who knows what the next like year will be I hear his body is being very unfair to him. Yeah. The likes of which you've never seen. God. But yeah, this October is so much politics.

I hope it's over soon. Each debate killed me to watch every single one of them. This will be launching for Free Feed people after the election? Or like the night? On election night. Wow. Maybe I should even just send this like the morning of the day instead so yeah you'll be here hopefully you'll hear this on election morning while you go out to vote on the free and we'll be celebrating

the success of mumbly joe yeah old mumbly here's open i guess yeah let's uh let's get the simpsons news uh so uh they were going to celebrate the 30th anniversary of trias of horror on halloween yep but that failed because of our old buddy baseball ruining sunday night programming since fox got their hands on it like 20 years ago right uh yeah i guess it has been like 26 years of it now or something of all the preemptions i'm just used to like football and baseball like just shoving just shoving around futurama and king of the hill like they're little nerds uh it's uh it's a very retro move to have treehouse of horror once more happen in november it's but it hasn't been

oh it hasn't happened in a while i was extra sad about it not just because it like looks good and also friend of the show julia prescott wrote one of the segments yeah uh but also i was looking forward to it because by being the 31st it now means there are as many tree houses as there are days in october that's gonna be my next october uh thing i think because like we can watch a new one every day every day on disney plus bob and you know what so treehouse of horror 11 is the next one we'll be doing in season 12 of talking simpsons that was the first one to air in uh november and they would air yeah that started the tradition of airing in november years it's been going on and then it wouldn't be until let's see uh treehouse of horror 22 that'd be the first

one to actually air properly in october holy shit and since then they've aired in october except for uh this one man so they've had a good streak for almost 10 years of okay let's go back to october it was it was stupid in fact there's like a sketch in one of the shows about like why is the halloween show airing in november i i guess this is the first time in a while the world series has gone long enough to do it. Also, I think the World Series probably got COVID delayed on some level. When this started, I thought, oh, baseball's just not happening. But some semblance of all the major sports is happening right now. And even seeing a number of people in the stands, I guess, you know, you hear it's easier outdoors, but it's better for outdoors than indoors for COVID.

But it's still crazy to see actual people in the stands for these World Series games. I think sports should be the reward for having a functioning society. And you don't get them yet. No, just play your video games until this is all over. But people just couldn't wait. Find something else to gamble on, I say. It's just too bad. I wanted to talk about the new gamble on, I say. It's just too bad. I wanted to talk about the new Treehouse on the podcast.

It's always fun to talk about the new episodes, but no, no doing. No, we did see a clip of it that came out. Oh, that's right. Yes. Yes. It looks like it's going to be cool. There's like a CGI bit too. That looks really good, honestly.

It looks better than that damn ride. Yes. Yeah. Well, I mean, it has been 12 years in between so they could improve it so other news that happened is uh the simpsons did another political short uh where homer uh i guess it's inferred that he votes against trump and uh you know what i never like these and uh it's just because uh al jean is a showrunner his politics are far different than mine we'll get into that later in this podcast. Yeah.

But in this little sketch, you can watch it online. Homer's in the voting booth, and he's deciding who to vote for. Do we even see the name Trump? You know, I don't know. I'm going to have to pull that up, but I don't think they actually say Trump. This is a clip from the Treehouse of Horror. Oh, this is the clip. Okay, sorry.

I thought this was made independently. So that's what you're referencing earlier. Yeah, they would have done it, but it's like, let's see here. Let's see. I know I won for all the judges and propositions, but president, that's a stumper. Can I write in Judge Judy? You're hesitating over president? Dad, by all that's decent, how could you forget everything that's happened the last four years?

Oh, not sure what you're talking about. Yeah, there's. Yeah, you're right. It doesn't literally say Trump did these things. It's all like nameless. It's like made it okay to shoot hibernating bears. That's what makes it even more toothless. Like, just say it i mean you're this is what you're telling people don't be like well you should vote wink wink don't do that and i also so i don't want to be i don't

want to get too cranky because the reasons that they are giving you to not vote for trump are all like valid but they're equating certain things like called mexicans rapist and uh grab them by the pussies like uh the president is a rapist too yeah that is put next to called meryl streep overrated called tim cook tim apple these are not on the same level they should not be part of the same list i think they're just trying to get to a list of 50 things and also maybe they're trying it's an attempted comedy i guess but it's like well, I feel like Al Jean is a genius. And I think he literally went to Harvard at 16. He's certifiably a genius.

And a comedy legend. All those things. I think being in his 60s and being rich and famous for the last 40 years, or at the very least working in Hollywood and making for the last 40 years has, or at the very least working in Hollywood and making good money for 40 years, probably dissociate you from reality a bit. And I think he's just kind of a normal Libby dude. Like that's all like, he's not, he's not conservative at least, but yeah. Yeah.

He's as conservative as a liberal millionaire can be, but like all of these things, uh, I mean, again, a lot of them are valid, but a lot of these things are like the things the Simpsons do. These violations of like decorum, like called Meryl Streep overrated. How many celebrities have this, has the Simpsons made fun of called Baltimore? Disgusting rat, rodent infested mess.

How many towns has the show made fun of? Like just East St. Louis. Exactly. Just like you should take these things off of your list. I guess they wanted to get to. Yeah. That's it. to. Yeah.

God. Yeah. I mean, well, also that you can't if they got too politically specific, that gets too close to ideology or a real opinion. If they said, you know, lower taxes on blank people, like maybe that's too, too, too negative towards people who think taxes are bad or whatever. Like there's it's I think just an attempt to be too centrist it is a centrist pitch to vote against donald trump and i guess too it's about they imagine homer as middle america dude who often votes republican how do you convince him to vote for joe biden which is the exact like al jean type dudes that is who they think about they think about

the fictional character homer simpson and who he'd vote for in the flyover states that they would never visit but it's also like this is working under the idea that like oh if we present this information to you you'll be reasonable you don't have any like deep-seated prejudices or you know beliefs that we can't shake you from i know it's like well to a degree i think there are the homer simpsons of the world some can be convinced but others are like okay i guess you're right those are bad things trump did hey what does this person stand for oh abortion no yeah exactly oh well actually i was told they're gonna take away my gun so i don't care like that yes they're stupid but they do believe in things and if you try to say well don't you care about

this it's like they believe in stuff more than that they have other like you you kind of have to meet them there they care about like destroying reproductive rights more than what the president said about meryl streep yeah which is like that's bad and fuck them but i feel like the simpsons uh this this sketches in the right their hearts are in the right place. But also this information is not going to convince anybody, I think. I don't think so. That's why it's like, I would rather you just do something funny. Like there was like a funnier bit for the 2008 election where I believe Homer was trying to vote for Obama, but the machine kept saying like McCain and then the machine ate him.

The voting machine ate him. Yeah, that was fun. And it felt more partisan. Maybe I'm projecting obama thing on it because i just remember it being that way i don't know if that's the truth but it felt like it had more of an edge to it i guess i should be thankful there's no like shirtless vat on mir putin in this one like they did with the homer goes to the polls bit in 2016 a compliment i'll give to this though is the work they put in of like they'd apparently animated it with people not wearing masks obviously and then they're like we need a retake and everyone needs to wear masks except for homer because homer wouldn't wear a mask which i believe to be true yeah oh actually

so i looked this up and uh to go back to what you said henry that's a lot of extra work to put on a director like put masks on all of them yes but uh so it's funny that like back in 2008 when i think things were less uh insane and less like politically uh turbulent uh in the opening scene homer tries to vote for barack obama however the voting machine is rigged to register his vote for john mccain after six attempts to vote homer heads out to report the mishap but the machine sucks him in and kills him to hide the truth and shoots his body out of the voting booth that is so much more politically pointed than this thing that won't even mention the name trump that's crazy it's uh i mean uh well to take a page from our friends at the michael and us podcast like in the in the aughts you know they talk about that uh robin williams is the

president movie man of the year or was it or whatever yeah man of the year yeah in that movie their biggest concern is like it's radical centrism and then it's also like oh it was a hacking of voting machines and blah blah blah like that was the big fear like not not ideological things not stances on things not the the supreme court none of that stuff it was just like oh but what if the machinery of this is taking advantage of like it's all just i mean also it's like it's all just about the referee and like talking about the rules and it's like can't you just have a fucking vision on stuff but i i would tell them to not do politics stuff at all if they're gonna just do like snl light stuff you know yeah and if they're doing like voting right like the 2008 ones was like a voting

right sketch almost because it's like yeah the the machines are right it'd be funnier if like burns was the one destroying like ballot boxes or something that'd be a funnier sketch to do because voting rights have only gotten worse in the past 12 years and uh you know there's an argument to be made in the classic years of simpsons i mean it's definitely i would call simpsons a liberal show and a left-leaning show but like presidentially, they shit on Clinton way harder than they did H.W. Bush, who actually directly attacked him. And this is just talking about the 90s. On top of that, like they were harsher to Jimmy Carter than they ever were to Reagan.

Like they let Reagan off the hook compared to Jimmy Carter. I think rapping Ronnie Reagan was the worst he got. And that was the Merkin years. And I feel like Merkin was more to the left oh for sure yeah he was the one that said republicans were just plain evil well and he also could take the shot of the democrats of like we can't govern we hate life and ourselves uh and our bros bill and josh they're definitely left-wing guys oh yeah for sure but they also did express like well they don't like dole or clinton they're both kind of crappy and same with.

But when it was time to do their Watergate episode, Republicans are evil monsters. Like they took that stance. But anyway, look, yes, don't vote for Trump there. Yes. You got it. I can tell you I already voted for Biden. Yeah. I don't like him, but it doesn't matter because we're in California. California doesn't matter.

We could have written it. We could have voted for the green candidate or whatever. It doesn't matter. We're in California. In California, it doesn't matter. We could have written it. We could have voted for the green candidate or whatever. It doesn't matter. We voted for Biden so we can argue online later. Yep. That gives us our rights. Honestly, that's why I purchased it. And also, I voted on get informed about the propositions in your areas, folks.

Definitely, yeah. But I guess, well, speaking of bad politics of LG. Oh, boy. I'm sorry to start this episode off with all this left left crankiness. But yes, so there was a little a bit of Bernie bashing from a joke that was probably written a year ago. Yes.

Before Super Tuesday, before COVID. And do we have a clip of this joke? I'll pull it up. OK. Yeah, it's it was on the most recent new episode. Yes, we hate the capitalists. Right now, a young socialist is being born who will take them down. Mr. Bernie Sanders.

I hope he's quick about it. Getting a cootie shot should not cost your lunch money. And if you don't listen to me, listen to the Bernie babies. What? Everybody's got goons. I disavow that and welcome it. Yeah. So, you know what?

Maybe I wouldn't have liked this if we weren't living in a pandemic, but maybe don't punch down at someone who wants to give people free health care and make that your joke during a pandemic when like 200,000 people, Americans have died so far and more worldwide, of course. And then it ascribes to the Bernie br Bros thing, which they were doing back with Obama. Look up Obama Bros. That was the same thing. It was. It was.

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Obama Bros won't leave Hillary fans alone. Oh, God. Yeah, it's bad. Even though, like, the K-Hive is as bad as any person on the internet. But that Sanders joke is, like, from five years ago. It's just ancient. And, yeah, to complain, it it's like it frames it as a guy who's wants oh no he wants health care how dare he and then on top of that the whole bernie

bros thing to still do it and and have it be like i condemn it and welcome it it's like god what shitty and you know what i this is the joke where the satire actually is like i agree with it where it's just like well yeah if people want want me to die sure beat them up yeah i do agree with them against me i guess see we're being bernie bros right now bob i guess also i will say another reason i didn't like it was when aljean shared it he framed it as like for those who say we only take one side which is like no you are still taking the same side this is the anti-trump anti-bernie side you've always had like this is the exact side of left punching you that is associated also with hating trump in the way you hate trump like it's just annoying to me because these are all writers that are part of

a union and have very good health care and it just feels so uh just it really bad taste again we again pre-pandemic i would have been just rolled my eyes a post-pandemic i'm just like read the room everybody yeah i i do also uh want to note that high-level simpsons writer carolyn omine she's still really cool i agree with her politics she i don't know if it was in response to it but like a day later after the episode aired she did a tweet of like she she had a very nice bernie that's good. So not everyone agreed in the writer's room. Yes. Yeah. Yes.

So we have finally on to happier news. Yes. So the episode that we saw at the table read last November, Road to Cincinnati, is going to air this month and perhaps we'll do a podcast about it. I think we just might. Yeah. Sadly, it had been lined up to air a year to the day almost. I think maybe one day off, a year to the day of when we got to do that table read.

And unfortunately, the knock-on effect of delaying Treehouse delayed it by like a week or two, I think. But I do believe, though, who knows if like, say, news were to preempt Simpsons airings again. Seemingly, Road toati will air this month and you guys can well watch what we heard and i i look forward to pulling out my table read script and comparing line by line like what was changed what wasn't we can go deep behind the scenes yeah it's so when you see a road to Cincinnati uh I I think now we can at least uh acknowledge that the blurb about the episode promoting it is about how it's a Skinner and Chalmers episode so if you remember hearing in the last year like oh there's a steamed ham sequel episode well that's the one that people were saying that about I wouldn't call it a steamed

ham sequel not really what we saw at the table read. But it was great. It was great. I can't believe that was a year ago. A year ago, yes. Yeah. But what a day that was, though. Fantastic.

Yeah. Yeah. So there is a new ad campaign that Disney Plus has launched called Simpsons Forever just to promote the fact that there are now 31 episodes of the show on Disney Plus. 31 seasons. 31 seasons. Sorry. Sorry. You only chose 31 episodes of the show on disney plus 31 seasons 31 seasons sorry sorry only the only chose 31 episodes there yeah no i uh i keep reading how it's the top thing on

disney plus it has been some real pandemic viewing so i i wonder whether that's changing or not in the disney offices about whatever their plans for the simpsons are you know it's the i say i say this every time we do the simpsons news section on these but the countdown clock is too early next year when it's 33 right you renew for 33 or you do something else like do will they do a broadcast 33 or won't they that's i'm uh disney is holding back their choice on that one and uh we have some more news here about uh the next rios of horror which will contain a Parasite parody. I'm looking forward to that.

Who's going to be living under whose house? Who knows? Yeah, man. Well, if I were to pitch Simpsons Parasite parody, I'd say Homer lives in Mr. Burns' house. I could see that happening. That's exactly what I see. Though, I don't know. Burns isn't bourgeois in that same way.

It should be like flanders's fancy house i could see that yeah but i uh two years later sure a parasite parody i i mean animation takes a long time it's also just uh after all we just said about aljean's politics i wonder what their view on parasites a very um i would say, anti-capitalist at the very least, Phil. No, you feel bad for the poor rich people. I know. They get victimized by those. The parasites are the people who live in the house, and they're actually trying to destroy

these nice rich people who just work so hard. I choose to take that movie title literally. And maybe those poor people smell bad, and that's why they hold their nose. Maybe they should be working harder to not smell bad. One of the last movies I saw in a theater. you know mine was onward to see that simpson short it was uh parasite and then jojo rabbit so i went out pretty high yeah movies end at this point i i think i came out pretty good my last one was sonic and then onward so not not a good pair it was a good it was a good pick for me because i said this before but uh i saw that parasite the week before oscars the weekend before oscars or oscar weekend i saw no other oscar movie

that won all the oscars so i saved so much time you really saved a lot of time there man what if it had been joker and you'd have to watch the joke oh boy uh on hbo max bob you don't even have to pay extra it's like i'm getting it for free but jokers are in my house for free but there's a variety article now about peter frampton's new autobiography and it talks a bit about his time on the simpsons and i'm still i'm wondering if he's still uh feuding with sonic youth uh it was funny to read his uh so it's a selection of stories from his biography his autobiography he also talks about working on almost famous and family guy and he said like bonnie patella the casting person for simpsons that had contacted him and said have you heard of the

simpsons like i love the simpsons and he said as she described the part he was going to play he's like oh so i'm like the old rocker who shouldn't be here and is out of touch and they're like yeah yeah and they kept in some of his muttering as an ad lib like the 25 years in the business i've never seen anything like this yeah that was all him so it's it was an interesting i i bet there's two pages about the simpsons total and peter frampton's biography autobiography but hey you know he's still with us he's still uh it reminded me that in family guy they had a joke where he's visited by Peter who becomes death as we all remember in that classic season two episode. First played by Norm MacDonald and then played by Adam Carolla that death character. But yeah he visits Peter Frampton and Peter Frampton says like

no you must mean to be at Keith Richards house and they're both still alive 20 years later. Knocking on wood there. and finally in simpsons news there was a pretty neat article about uh virtual springfield the making of it how it barely got made how it like got transferred to another studio and just uh what the game is and how it plays and how there's original nor not norm mcdonald sorry phil hartman dialogue in it and yeah uh very interesting although there's a massive error and that it says this game shipped when the simpsons was in his sixth season i say no to you sir it was in season eight fire that man you know well i do believe the writer uh jack yarwood is a british person so he was watching on the telly on sky yeah he i he could be living in the past of like well it

was season six then when we got it or whatever. But, you know, I'm bros with some folks who worked at PC Gamer. I mean, they're old colleagues, though. I never worked with Jackie Arwood. I don't know the British side of it, but it was a really good article. Like, just, I mean, I respect him as a writer just because the idea of, I could write, I'd be given three days to write about virtual springfield and why it's good but i would never be given the chance to call people or get new interviews or

any of that stuff so to actually do the to be given the time to do the journalistic reporting of talking to people that i really somehow pc gamer uh is still around and still able to do this i don't know how, but hats off to them. I will tell you, as a former Future employee, the media company that owns PC Gamer, it is not for lack of trying to fuck up PC Gamer that PC Gamer is still around. To me, it always felt like Future lucked into having

an awesome staff and popular brand. Despite trying to kill it at every turn, they still have ended up with it. So now we are on to Talking Simpsons news, and we have a big announcement. Big, big, big. Huge. You might want to pull over to the side of the road if you're driving. No, it's not that dramatic. Get the kids out of the room.

It's going to get a little blue. So a big announcement for us is that we're going to have a poll coming up soon to decide upon which season of The simpsons we're covering next season 2 or season 12 yes we could be doing a redo of season 2 in the way that we did it with season 1 with you know uh new guests and uh basically an even more in-depth look at these episodes because i went back to original season 2 and they're all between a half hour to 45 minutes yeah and i can't believe uh how did we maybe it's because we were recording like a bunch of ones and doing it after a bad job but we did not do those episodes justice the first time around and i think we can do so much more of them this time as we did with season one when i

think about what we did for like the first tree house or three men in a comic book like i would love to revisit them especially with we have so many great guests we want to chat to about that and so yeah basically uh production wise to give you a window into it despite the fact that there are two months left of podcast you're going to be listening to a season 11 me and bob finished season 11 two weeks ago yeah that's old news buddy where are you but uh so again if you hear us talking about like, well, who knows what happened in the election? That's why.

So now we're left with how do we move forward with recording new stuff? And until we decide, or by we, I mean all of you listeners, whether it'll be season two or 12 next that we do, then we can't start recording stuff. So yeah, I mean, I thought our season one redo was really great. Yeah, it's so much fun and i actually i didn't think it would be i thought it'd be oh this will be easy actually was a lot of work to go back into those but i appreciate it because like now we finally have like really good season one episodes that are super long super in depth and do and do more uh justice to the animation

as well as the writing i think totally totally we um you know on our first run of it we also we hadn't done the podcast before and it's the same for season two as well yeah season season two was how this uh the podcast debuted for free listeners of it so it was still very new when we did season two uh so i think we have a million new things that not to mention that we have like interviewed dozens of people who worked on it at this point and have so much more to say so i guess the choice will be vote on season two or season 12 but whichever doesn't win we will like we're going to do season 12 eventually we're not stopping with season two we're like oh if we do season two then straight on to three no we'll do 12 after that and i think people uh have confidence in us by now i don't think anyone's saying well i knew it i knew they weren't going to keep going.

No, I want to do season 12. I think it's actually better than 11, and I can't wait to go beyond that. But I also think because of the state of the world right now, who knows what it will be a week from now. But I am kind of in the mood to go back to the cozier days of 1990 and put off 2000 and 2001 just for a little bit. Because the season two shows have the James Earl Brooks schmaltziness that's just like a warm blanket. And I think for these times, that would be so nice to dive right into those

more emotional, more heartfelt episodes in the pandemic that seemingly won't end anytime soon. And plus, you know, it still would line up with the 30th anniversary because the second half of season two is in the start of 1991 so if we do it at the start of 2021 then we're still celebrating the 30th anniversary of season two so uh but yes the poll will be on the patreon anyone who's a patreon supporter even the one dollar folks will be able to vote on it it'll be up for a week so uh starting the day you're hearing this on the patreon but it'll still be up for a little bit on the free day too but so really make your voices

heard vote season 2 or season 12 which would you like to hear us do moving forward but and but we're not stopping the forward motion on simpsons we're not just going to redo everything after season 11 we're yeah maude's death didn't kill us. We're not getting killed by that. This is our job and we're doing it forever. We're not going to stop. So, yes, we're just excited to revisit those episodes. And if you couldn't talk about Simpsons things twice, then we would just be lost in this world, wouldn't we?

If we can only reference something once. Yeah, that's right. Yes. Don't put that on us. But, yeah, so I'm excited to either do season 2 or season 12. But it's up to you guys out there to decide which is what we do next. And so in big news that is coming up next, we have Futurama season two, part two.

As of this launch on Patreon, it'll be up on Friday. But if you're listening to this on the free feed, episode one is already there. Yes, that's right. Yeah, it'll be out this friday the october 30th you can hear the uh how hermes requisitioned his groove back the start of our second half of futurama season two part two chosen in a poll a few months ago and uh i think i might just listen to him because yes me too it's like eight weeks ago i it's they'll be new to me

as well like i really don't remember anything i said we recorded all of those like in the in the back half of september like between september 10th and september like 28th or something so uh i don't remember anything but yeah those are all recorded so those are all going to roll out every friday until the end of the year and if you're on the patreon at the five dollar level you can access all of those as they release and then also access the previous episodes of talking futurama and all the other mini series and everything we've done for the past three and a half years it's all waiting there for you but yeah new mini series launching now our second quarantine mini series hopefully there won't be a third quarantine mini series

hopefully the third mini series we do since quarantine started will be will be free yes yeah in in march of next year we can only hope i and And I want to say, too, you know, as long as we're talking about production stuff, we are very far ahead. We have recorded a couple 2021 podcasts. Did we record a February one? I think we have. Yeah, we did that last week. But, you know, we've been able to produce so much

and get so much ready ahead of time. And we also couldn't do it without the help of unsung heroes of this podcast many of our freelance editors who have been helping a lot with this uh folks like alan alex jess and momoka you've all been oh and ray so many great editors thank you very much for your help uh to get getting all these out they're no superman but they do a great job uh but yeah i mean we couldn't do this without them and that's how we're able to record so much and then offload the time intensive editing to other people now because of the support of all you listeners out there it's great to have that taken care of i love editing personally you want to get a chance to do it but it does take a

lot of time that could be used for doing research or recording so i'm happy that in the past year and a half i think we were finally able to offload some of that yes so much so yeah it's uh and hopefully you guys have uh have enjoyed it too yeah so henry and i so far have done uh early voting in our area yeah we voted a while ago you don't want to vote shame us i probably voted before most people can because we're lucky yes it's fun like i just never thought about of course i know that people are getting their voting rights taken away everywhere and people are making it harder and harder to vote but i just had to walk up to a ballot boxes on the way to your place and drop it in other people have to line up for that privilege some people don't even have that

it's in it's so sad to hear yeah we in berkeley california where we live we're really lucky that there's just there's city hall and it's all within walking distance of where we live we're really lucky that there's just there's City Hall and it's all within walking distance of where we live and you can just slip it in the ballot box and you're done like you're not even uh put it in the mail you just can drop it off yourself at the polling place and California has a system that's like your ballot is on the way your ballot has been received your ballot has been counted so you can keep track of that online yeah it's it's pretty great I I wish it was that way in all the rest of the world or america but then you you see the stories about like even in new york city of like these lines to line up to do any early voting like

the the turnout of early voting seems very promising because the as you may know like usually a more the more people vote the less conservative the uh the winners are it's true uh but yeah i i also just want to say like you know obviously you should do what me and bob would both advocate that do not vote for donald trump and vote for joe biden that feels worse to say but definitely don't vote for donald trump uh but it's not just about national races that's a very important thing to know in voting stuff. Pay attention, statewide and local stuff, very important. One thing that is very important to me is if you live in California, you got to vote no on Prop 22.

There's lots of important ballot measures and look into those. But if you have to remember one, it's vote no on Prop 22, which the the lyft and uber and doordash one that wants to just destroy labor regulation and it's the commercials i've seen for it or something like the most evil don't you want these i've ever seen don't you want these workers to keep their independence i love my independence to be like it's seeing it's it's horrible to see the the people they get those videos to be like actually i love to drive these things like the diverse casting they have for it it's just so yeah sinister i was never an uber driver but i got dicked over for like the last 10 years of my life on every job that i had

because no one would ever hire me it's like well you're a contractor and you get so screwed over and i hated it that's why i'm doing this because i could never actually just get hired there was always some weird loophole and they want to make it even worse yes yeah that just to protect their business which is like all the uber lift their whole business is to lose money until they're the they monopolize the space and then they make money that's the entire point of it and when they say like well if we have to make these people full-time employees we'll lose so much money they are spending hundreds of millions of dollars on this like it's not about money it's about uh fucking over workers like yeah so please i i i get scared seeing how much money uber is spending on this and lyft and doordash and all

the others i and it scares me to think they really can just buy this thing like so and they and if you hear them say oh well they're gonna leave the state they will not leave California yeah the most populous state with the most money in it they're gonna stop operating here like no let's call their bluff uh now if you can't afford to run your business then you shouldn't have a business yeah maybe maybe yeah uh so per a deep personal news if you want to get in on my life because this involves a friend of the show and frequent guest and uh one of our artists nina matsumoto my fiance i haven't seen her since march 5th and finally on october 8th canada was like hey if you are a partner in a long-term relationship for more than a year and you've actually seen each other

in person we could give you written authorization to enter the country. Here's a very slapdash process to do that. And so far they got back to me within two weeks with a frustratingly vague, give us more information kind of statement. So I did that and I'm currently waiting for a reply. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to, hopefully I won't look back on this podcast and laugh like I thought I was going to go to Canada this year. I was such an idiot, but hopefully I will be there in three weeks in November, just in canada two weeks in quarantine one week of having fun in in quarantine uh times you know just outside of the house yeah it's uh everybody do the spirit bomb technique for goku put your hands up and give your energy to bob in

the hopes that he can go to canada and i will say, I know people mean well, but I don't think a lot of people out there understand, a lot of you people understand. It's actually very, very hard to get into Canada and to move there. It was just funny to me that the second I announced, over a year ago, at some point I'll be moving to Canada, everyone I saw in person was like,

so you in Canada yet? You moved to Canada? I bet you're all packed up. I'm like, no. They mean well. Yes, exactly. But I I saw in person was like, so you in Canada yet? You moved to Canada? I bet you're all packed up. I'm like, no, it takes, yes, exactly. But I just want to let everyone know it is very hard. It's very hard to just even, uh, just a visit now. So, uh, yeah, everyone's being very helpful, but, uh, yeah, I'm just putting that out there. I know we know everything. We have a lawyer that's helping us and we're doing everything we can right now to get me there just for three weeks you know even in the before times it was really like uh not easy but all of our all of our millennial generation like and i i'm probably guilty of it too that we all said things like well if blank doesn't happen i'm moving to canada or whatever because just the

i think it comes from a very entitled american way of thinking of like people have to work hard to come into here but if i as an american want to move somewhere else i instantly am allowed to because i am an american yeah and and things are things are much more difficult for someone who is not a white cis male to get into canada absolutely but looking over the regulations uh that it's it's it's still really hard for me to get in where it's just like oh you have a master's degree? What do you have a master's degree in? Oh, English?

Yeah, points off to that. It's just like, you're given your economic viability score. Like, how much money can you make this country? I mean, America is much worse in that respect. It's like, well, how are you going to contribute to America? But it's just like, I'm not like a STEM major who makes six figures, so they don't immediately want me in. But prayers up for Bob to Canada.

And thanks for everyone who's being very nice to us online uh and being supportive i it's it's really hard to not see your partner for eight months it sucks it sounds pretty crappy i hate it every day but uh i love podcasting because uh it helps time go by faster and i have something to work on i'm so grateful for being able to do this let's talk about about our schedule for What a Cartoon. So the first week, actually the first two weeks are kind of like sister shows from the same era. Yeah. It's a lot of, actually this is a month of patron picks as well. Our top level patrons, because a lot of them hit at the same time.

But they're all great picks. But yeah, the first two are a combo of Cartoon Network classics. And the last two are a combo too, like British stop motion. So first week is going to be Ed, Edd n Eddy. The two cartoons are Brother, Can You Spare an Ed? and The Day the Ed Stood Still. So late 90s Cartoon Network hit alongside the next week's pick, Courage the Cowardly Dog. The cartoons are Everyone everyone wants to direct and

remembrance of courage past yes so those are some uh some pre-adult swim cartoons on cartoon network yeah now unfortunately for some reason ed ed and eddie is less available than it should be it should just be on hbo max but that specific combo of episodes in the United States is available for purchase on Prime Video. While Courage, that's also on Prime Video, but it's also on like Verve slash Boomerang. So that's where I can direct you to for those episodes. And third week of November. I forgot there are five Mondays in November. So third week is going to be the classic British stop motion series, The Wind in the Willows.

The episode is going to be piper at the gates of dawn a fairly trippy uh adventure with these tea sipping rodents yeah it i had such a good time doing that one portly portly it's just it's such a wonderful uh stop motion throwback to the 80s uh the bbc series well i say if it was a british series i just say it's a bbc series even if it didn't air on bbc but i believe these did it was a british series i just say it's a bbc series even if it didn't air on bbc but i believe these did but uh that's in the united states just on youtube you can watch it fairly easily so after that we have returned to bubblegum crisis with the first episode tinsel city rhapsody and that was recorded i think like in september yes. A long time ago. Yeah. Lots of fun there. Seminal anime show for anyone in the States.

Very much so. Yeah. And it's also, it's on like every streaming service, I think like Retro Crush and Verve and High Dive. And also I think you can just watch the classic dub on YouTube, like unedited. That's the way to go in my opinion. And then to close out the month we have uh our movie of course it's going to be walson gromit and the curse of the were-rabbit that's what won the poll

for that month if you're a five dollar patron or on the free feed you can hear our extended preview of that if you're on the ten dollar feed on the patreon at patreon.com talking simpsons you can hear the whole thing when it goes live and we are going to record that in a few days as of this recording so looking forward to that i just watched it on friday it's great so great yeah and uh you're gonna have a lot of fun as we talk about uh all the cheese and delicious vegetables and fruit in that movie it's the movie made me hungry yeah it's uh it's our first dreamworks film as well can you believe it we haven't done a dreamworks film okay so we talk about yep the quibi master himself uh and then let's talk about our december movie poll so we're doing uh yet another poll about film versions of shows that we've

covered in the past and those are going to be aquatine hunger for uh aquatine hunger force movie film film for theaters is that what it's called yeah it's the whole name for yeah movie film for theaters uh they were doing the borat thing right after borat uh and also we have uh batman and superman world's finest yeah that's the three episode combo of superman and batman episodes that was released as its own film and honestly it's just like a direct-to-video movie and we also have the 2000 movie an extremely goofy movie you've never seen goofy hornier than an extremely goofy movie that's right uh and then of course we have end of evangelion the uh the 1997 movie yes yeah a real trip we're gonna have some things to talk about if we get that one but uh i mean i'm excited to do any of these four like they're they're all awesome two of them are officially anime because that Batman Superman thing is a TMS production.

But yeah, End of Ava, extremely goofy movie. Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie, colon movie film for theaters. And Batman Superman, world's finest. I'm looking forward to any of those. All great choices. And now we talk about what we've been up to lately, non-podcasting viewing and playing.

So for me, I haven't actually been doing too much uh watching and playing compared to last month uh so most of this month i've been playing luigi's mansion 3 it came out on halloween of last year and i've been playing it all of october it's really fun it might be going on a bit too long uh but uh most games do most games are about 40 too long uh but man every world is great there's only a there's only a couple floors where i'm like i don't need to backtrack and suck up all this sand do i oh i do a like yeah but if you space it out all of that all that sucking action is so therapeutic i just like sucking everything up uh sucking in the blow it's so great yeah no i mean just the honestly the

the walking into a room and interacting with every item in it is uh is just fantastic so much fun so yeah and also nina and i are wrapping up final fantasy 14 shadowbringers i keep saying that but it's a very long expansion damn and after alongside that i've been doing lots of stuff for retronauts because we recorded a few episodes earlier this month so i i replayed wario land one i played a bit of virtual boy wario land for the first time and uh we also this is a super preview for i believe january so me and henry and ian jones cordy the ok ko let's be heroes creator sat down and recorded a podcast all about looney tunes games so i was doing a lot of research yeah except the games aren't very fun no no no but i mean also

like uh you know you did a ton of great research and and ian is such a gamer slash looney tunes fan that he brought so many great insights to it i can't wait for that one to go live that'll be on the patreon for retronauts in january and as far as watching goes uh not a whole lot just kind of keeping up with the series i was watching last month so uh i wish i could have done this before but we have one episode to go in avatar i am enjoying it although i don't like the third book as much as the others i think if i was a kid i would have liked it more i would like oh this is so dark but i mean if you're an adult you're like it's not really that dark i've seen actual dark yeah uh but it's fine i mean i mean i i dislike

it more than the other books but it's still a very fun show that i'm enjoying and we just finished the anime demon slayer henry you got to watch it it's great it's uh super popular in fact the movie just came out in theaters in japan and it broke like every opening day record whoa damn i didn't know demon slayer was that big i gotta all right because well because i did my hero academia and i after 70 episodes it finally hit me like this is getting kind of, it was just falling too much into the rut of Shonen show stuff. So I fell off it, but I would like to watch something that is the popular thing. It is fun to be in the zeitgeist for sure.

It's a really cool animation, really fun stories, really creative fights. The hero is very interesting. And the movie that I talked about just came out in Japan. I think the record it shattered was the previous opening day record in Japan was The Matrix Reloaded or The Third Matrix. Wow, wow, wow. One of those.

That's crazy. And they did a smart thing with this movie. So you know how every movie is like, we're going to go to Filler Island and meet a best friend we'll never see again. This one is just like, no, we're going to keep adapting the manga except this is going to be a movie.

Wow. And then the next season we'll be picking up after the movie. is so smart wow man i mean that is that's a gutsy decision sir hats off to that because you know you always want the movie the movie is like a different group of dudes doing it or it's like you're the movie team we're the tv team and you don't work on a thing that's from the manga but to like there are definitely arcs in comics where when they get adapted into the anime tv series i'm like boy i wish they'd had a bigger budget and more time for this like the movie budget going to a big section of the story that's really great

i guess too a reason they don't do that is because, well, then you already are having to, like, say, My Hero Academia, you're having to stretch a little bit to fill some time. A movie, if it was more adaptation, then you're taking away more episodes you can do on the TV show. The benefit, not to go too far into Demon Slayer, although we probably will cover it on What a Cartoon, the manga's already finished. So they don't have to stretch or anything like that. Oh, that's great. Oh, man, you're really getting me into this now. tune yeah the manga's already finished so they don't have to stretch or anything like that yeah man you're you're really getting me into this now to know it was a limited well not limited but like like mha is still going so yeah all right i'm gonna watch it i'm gonna watch it you've sold

me on it and then we've been watching a bunch of movies nina and i uh throughout the month uh so we started off the month with singing in the rain which i've never seen which was a lot of fun a lot of fun dancing. We reference, we talk about it a bit in Last Tap Dance in Springfield coming up later this year. And then watching a bunch of fun Halloween movies. So we watched The Addams Family. I have not seen that since it came out on VHS in like 1992. It rules.

It still holds up. People say the sequel is like way better and maybe it is, but the first one is still fantastic. Yeah, I just watched it on your recommendation to i mean re-watched it i saw it as a child but i don't think i've watched it in full since i saw it and then and it's man is it good like every everything's funny in it everything's great i the only thing i noticed now was uh while we were watching it uh my husband darren shared with me the trivia oh you know they they recut the ending a bit to make it clearer that fester is yeah at the insistence of like christina reachy and angelica houston to see that now i'm like oh yeah i can see where they made cuts or this is like a character off screen says well it's a good thing lightning struck his head because

then it gave him back all his memories and he definitely was like i was okay like but man yeah everyone's great in it but especially like ral julian angelica houston like those perfect perfection yeah it's just a bunch of fun sketches with the uh weird story about a fake fester who turns out to be real yes but so good christopher lloyd amazing like that he was on like uh that was the height of his powers really like post back to the future pre camp nowhere or whatever. God. Yeah. Uh, also a movie I didn't quite like it's, it's called circle. It's a high concept movie about like a,

a death game where the whole entire movie is like 50 people in a circle in one room. Oh, and, uh, they're killed as part of this death game. And, the rules are kind of fuzzy,

but, uh, I wouldn't recommend it. But, uh, what I would recommend is, um, a Japanese zombie movie called one cut of the dead

and uh i will say to everybody and this is what everyone told me before watching it is like i'm going to recommend this but i can't tell you anything about it well because it does some really cool stuff that you will not expect at all including playing with uh okay i won't even i wouldn't go that far and say that i wouldn't go far, but it makes some wild turns, and it's 90 minutes, and you can just get it on, run it on Amazon or see it on Shudder. It is so cool, and if you're worried, like, oh, it will be gory, it's not gory. Don't worry about it. All right. Well, it looks like I'm going to watch that this week then while it's still Halloween time.

Especially if you want to get ahead of the spoilers. I mean, it's been out in the states for maybe uh close to a year but uh you don't want to be spoiled on this movie it's really really good and i was so surprised by it and i was so satisfied watching it last night you said the same about sorry to bother you before you watched that before me and i was very glad i didn't have anything about that spoiled oh yes yes uh i will say in terms of just unexpected things uh it goes beyond that well well yes all right so that i guess i guess i had a lot to talk about so there you have it yeah i uh other than the stuff i watched that

bob uh introduced me to during this last month i was enjoying watching a bunch of animes interrelated to things that are coming in the future but not exactly a thing we're doing like i i watched the film summer wars for the first time i never seen that i i didn't know enough about uh the director mamoru hosoda uh i hadn't seen enough of his stuff i am fixing that now he's uh he's a really great obviously you probably listeners you probably seen a lot of his stuff but he's really something else uh and also i've been watching last airbender but uh at a slower pace i am nearing the end of book one but i've been really enjoying it it's like oh damn this is great there's always at least one great fight scene each episode even if in even if in season

one there are definitely like very kiddie moments of like well we all learned the lesson today type thing it's still it's still a lot of fun. Another animated series I've been enjoying is Craig the Creek. There were a bunch of new episodes, including a really great Halloween episode. Where do you watch those? Well, you got to get the Cartoon Network app. It only works with Xbox One. Well, fortunately, I do have a smart TV

that has the Cartoon Network app on it as well. I wonder like with PS5 and Xbox, wait a minute, what's the new xbox called oh shit there we go series x it's a bad idea terrible name i wonder which ones are gonna be like well we'll have netflix eventually or are they all gonna roll out with every app i can tell you on the playstation 5 they are rolling out with some apps okay not all of them like they had a list of them that they definitely start with netflix and um i believe disney plus but at hbo max but i think there's like i do believe hulu is not a day one thing on it like there's uh i guess there's a lot

of uh behind the scenes paperwork you gotta sign on that i think i hope at the very least xbox one sucked as a machine uh games were good on it but as a machine it sucked on day one. But they at least were like, no, we have to have every video app on here. So I'm hoping that rolls over onto the Series X at least. I think they were slightly ahead of the curve, but then everybody eventually just got a smart TV, and smart TVs have all that stuff without you having to turn on a giant box. Yeah, yeah.

Often now that I have this uh thing that plays everything other than apple tv um i i'm like no don't turn on the ps4 to watch netflix we'll just put it on the tv on the tv app like that that oh i do remember ps5 is getting apple tv plus which i am accidentally a member too from just we bought a new imac and that came with an apple tv plus subscription so so you can access all those episodes of Snoopy in space and I can't yes I'm sorry you better pirate those for me you can watch the show about Jason Momoa being blind and it's it's Game of Thrones but what if everyone was blind but also this month I was watching tons more old Venture Brothers because I bought all of the Blu-ray

versions. I was fearing they were going to go out of print. And God, the commentaries are the greatest. They're just podcasts. They're not. They barely talk about what's on screen. That's why I want a gray market for pirated commentaries. Sometimes people put them on YouTube.

Sometimes. And I want that for everyone because eventually all those discs aren't going to work anymore. And I just love that. I mean, pre pre-podcast i was like commentary boy like i'm gonna throw in a commentary while i play a video game or something like that yeah though this month uh i actually bought a lot more discs than i normally do of things i'm looking at blu-ray mountain over here uh there was a lot of sale but it's because thanks to the venture brothers things it made me once again appreciate like the DVD extra as a thing like when I pull up all these uh like Roger Rabbit on the uh Disney Plus I'm just thinking boy it'd be nice to hear

that commentary that's with it or to see the 30th anniversary behind the scenes or all these things that they just they don't give you on Disney Plus like I think because that integrating those things are just for the biggest dorks in the world. They're not for the billion people they want to have sign up for Disney+. So instead, I've just been spending like, I buy these discs really just for the extras. I'm like, I can stream this movie whenever I want, but can I hear the commentary? No. Also this month, a couple other things I want to mention was

there is a great new song by john daly that i've been rocking out to uh john daly the comedian who did the uh yes abracadabra california song abracadabra california whatever uh he has done a new song that is sort of a parody of the monster mash about the 2017 film the snowman okay and it is stuck in my head i'm not gonna play it because it would get stuck in everybody's head on the way home so you mentioned apple tv before and i was like what is on apple tv while we were talking and apparently in may there was a new fraggle rock that was like a zoom based fraggle rock show what filmed in the homes of the performers that called fraggle rock colon rock on what the hell wow I had not heard about that at all.

Apple has all of the money in the world. They're not advertising this in a way I've heard about it. Like, Apple TV is goddamn lucky Quibi existed this year, or else they'd be the joke of streaming. It is true. And lastly, video games I play this month, not as much as Bob, other than Hades, which I seriously put 30 hours into. Everybody is bullying me with their good opinions about Hades.

And it's like, I bought so many games this year, I still need to play. I'm finishing an unprecedented amount of games, but still, I don't want to add a new one. But I might have to because everyone is saying, like, I can't stop playing Hades. I really can't stop playing Hades. And I think Supergiant games are good normally, the developers of it. I really enjoyed their previous ones. But this was the first one that truly grabbed me because the gameplay is a ton of fun. And I always shit on isometric games.

But the gameplay is so much fun. And it really is just every night I go like, well, I can just do a couple runs in Hades. And I'll just put on a podcast. It's perfect podcasting stuff, too. And the constant replayability is integrated into the story of the game so well in very unexpected ways. And, yeah, I just love it. And also I played a bunch of Mario 35, which is good. It's disappearing before the end of the fiscal year.

You better hurry. All of these Nintendo things are like for a limited time, and it's just like as the fiscal year comes to a close, including this, which is free. Why would they stop this? I played a little bit of this. I want to play more, but I feel like I am just stomping all of the children

who did not grow up with this game. Just like I'm too good at Mario 35. See, I can never, I still haven't gotten first place in it. I can usually get in the top 10, but I've never gotten first place in it i i can usually get in the top 10 but i've never gotten first place in it and uh yeah i and of course me and bob being such gamers we've got new systems coming this month well me it's because of henry's like uh buying uh tricks and tips yes uh it's the same reason i got a snes classic uh oh that's right because because in order to get a ps5 or an xbox one you have to order nine of them and hope one of them comes through.

I believe we're getting an extra one, and I'm going to pay you behind the scenes, under the table. Yes, yes. Yeah, well, I really credit to my husband, Darren. Oh, for sure. He works hard on keeping... We were usually doing it together, but he, even more than me, has been like, no, no, no. They just went on sale at Best Buy. I'm just going to pre-order it.

So, yeah, I mean, we're each... I'm buying the PS5. He's buying the Xbox Series X, and we're just going to... been like no no they just went on sale at best buy i'm just gonna pre-order it so uh yeah i mean we're each i'm buying the ps5 he's buying the xbox series x and we're just gonna get along i mean i cannot wait to play to me xbox series x is the yakuza 7 machine like that's what i'm using my pc is my yakuza 7 machine fine fine fine but i i don't uh you know i don't understand why people even play pcs it's like they don't work all the time i gotta buy a new video card every day i'm playing the part of a guy who doesn't like pcs but no i pc gaming's fine it's just i i feel like i can't learn it now i just like having i like having my fun game a box and i and my pc is my machine for doing the stuff if

they made a switch that just played steam games i'd be in heaven like i could play my entire steam library on a portable thing that would rule uh but uh yeah i'm looking forward to yakuza like a dragon and uh the demon souls i i think you know i've never really played a souls game before bob i'm gonna start with this demon it might not be the best place to start but uh i don't know but i mean you might enjoy it i that's where i started because it was the only one out when i when i started the game it's gonna be funny too because i've played all of the games that are so influenced by demon souls since then but never a true souls game and call me a fake gamer i know

you want to say that listeners out there but uh and the miles morales spider-man game looking forward to that too so what a gaming oh the pikmin re-release oh yeah three i i play that demo it's a ton of fun if i end up going to canada i might buy it just to replay it again because i had a lot of fun with that back in 2013 nobody touched it on the wii u yeah no but uh anywho so now on to comments and questions for talking simpsons the first episode alone again, naturally. That was what we did with Chapo Trap House's Matt Chrisman and Virgil Texas. And we got a lot of new signups from that episode, as they always bring us new signups and new people. So welcome aboard if you're new to the podcast and thank you for signing up.

Yeah, we recorded that one so long ago that Virgil didn't even promote his brand new podcast. Yes. Bad Faith Podcast is great. I've been listening to it. I need to join the Patreon, but I've been really having a lot of fun with him and Brianna. What's her name? Brianna Joy Gray. Exactly. Yes.

They're both great together. Yeah. So Nina Matsumoto says, regarding Ned's massive dong. And this is Bob speaking. I got to put my fiance Nina Matsumoto on blast for this one. But she says says i've always interpreted the joke as homer having edited the footage to make it look like ned has a super long dick not that he actually has one hence why it's comically unrealistically long i still stand by

my interpretation and i have to say oh nina you sweet summer child you you you innocent you uh i i think you said it best henry like the joke is and it's like a heightening of the joke from a streetcar named marge where ned pulls his sweater off and he's like ripped yeah this is like oh the meek man he's not only ripped he also has a gigantic penis yes yeah an impossibly long penis that it's just it's the topper on that joke like in in the past it would have just been to show him scrubbing his hard body would be enough of a joke but i thought they had to hide it now like i i like i want to live in the world of nina's joke where it is that homer was just trying to uh make ned even more impressive

to potential daters on the video by making his penis look bigger but i really feel like it's just a classic 1999 gigantic penis yes and i don't think homer's star white machine has like cgi dick making technology and i will say because i was posting that clip a lot when i was running the episode because it's very funny like not meant to be seen on sd tv but you can see like the definition not to get too disgusting here, but the definition of the head of Ned's penis is drawn. So they drew a realistic penis before covering it up. Homer does not have this technology.

You know, now we got to really interview Mike Scully again to be like, seriously, this was fully drawn uncensored, wasn't it? Did you have the footage? You know, you would think if there's a sellout there of it like did you have the footage you know you would think if there's a sellout there of it that we'd have seen it by now so everyone let nina know how wrong she is but also i'm sorry sweetie i like i i like nina's view on it but i wish i could live in her in her cotton candy world that's what you get when you live in canada everything is just flowers and sunshine and giant dicks don't exist uh But also on that very controversial episode of Loading and Natural Diddly,

Mikey Cox says, May be controversial to say, but this episode is always a bright spot for me during this mediocre era. In uni, a group of us always gathered to watch every Sunday, and someone would always bring up how Simpsons wasn't as good anymore. This episode by far got the most laughs out of us for this season and I remember repeating not unlike when Homer sees the pig flying through the sky see it can still be good. Seeing it again now I agree that the writers are far too cruel to mod and it's rather distasteful how they treat her. Saying that it was refreshing

to see some emotional magnitude as crass as it was in a time when the stories were getting odder and more unbalanced and many of the jokes land superbly and anyone who disagrees i challenge to a rock fight this was an interesting take i did enjoy this yeah there were there were a lot of interesting takes you know of like oh are we too harsh on it were we too too negative on it and like what like i i gotta say different than i expected for the years i was thinking of us doing this episode of what i thought our listeners would react to it with and i think all of our listeners like there's quite a few humps to get over in our exploration but i think this is the last big one for us like how are we going to handle it will it defeat us

and the answer of course is no and i think we handled it very well but it was interesting to see everyone's take on this one this the most infamous episode for sure yeah so up next we're on to a missionary impossible on our old buddy thad kamarowski says a few thoughts uh bob saying season 12 was overall better gave me pause and looking at the episode again i think he's right but it didn't matter i kind of relate this dynamic to the office season 8 and season 9 the latter season was a demonstrable improvement but the previous season was so bad after an already considerable decline with toby as the showrunner that it scared everyone away and that holds true for the simpsons unfortunately in their case everyone wasn't shamed into shutting the production down and admitting they fucked up royal um and he also

says henry needs to check out the bc strip from the 50s and 60s when it was anything but passive cynical and violent as hell before johnny hart found jesus and yes that is talking about the famous caveman comic about christianity and golf yeah i apparently it was good in the 50s and 60s i it isn't that always the way when a creator finds jesus they just the show gets worse and speaking of jesus uh that says save me gibbous is the only saving grace this episode blows and that ends his uh comment with you can give due praise to scully and mcfarland for all the union stuff but no amount of unionization changes the fact that everyone names a scully episode as the one that made them stop watching

or that family guy ruined primetime cartoons and uh sure i'll give you that. I would assume it was likely a Scully. If you ask somebody when they stopped watching The Simpsons, it was probably a Scully run episode. For me, it was a Gene. It was into 13A. Yeah, it was like season 19. I just couldn't do it anymore. But I'm looking forward to going past that

because I have not seen now like 12 years of The Simpsons. There was a lot of pro-Jeebus talk in this, which was in our comments, which is funny because, you know, Connor was like, Connor Lestoga, our great guest, he was not a believer in Jeebus, not the biggest fan. I don't think I've ever heard Jeebus in a Riff Trax. Also on Missionary Impossible, frequent commenter Joey Jojo Shabadoo says, I still watch, donate, and volunteer for my local PBS station. It has so much quality television. To answer Bob's question, yes, the PBS Passport application has a lot of great free content. However, some things are only available if you donate to your local station. Henry, they still play the Les Miserables anniversary concert at Pledge Drives.

I watched it a month or two ago. Those British comedies have been replaced by the Downton Abbeys and other British crime dramas. But their nature documentaries, cooking shows, and the soothing balm of the Great British Bake Off slash baking show are just a wonderful use of your taxed money and donation. PBS, I wonder if our British listeners know that PBS is really just the British channel. And when we got bbc america it kind of took away a lot of that stuff from the pbs that's how i found all the british programming as a kid it's like they make british shows uh but but i love knowing that

the 10th anniversary concert of les mis is still playing endlessly on local pbs stations i'll watch it a million times like i i love les mis unironically after me and the husband watch cats to uh the live action film cats to just gawp at it and i told them like well you haven't seen the guys les mis movie either but we're not going to watch that i'm just going to show you clips from the anniversary concerts i've seen enough parodies get the gist of it oh yeah i'll watch the rita and runt parody i mean uh but the cats movie that's on hbo max it does have to be seen to be believed it's incredible and up next we have uh pig molian and sarah gray says up first uh by the way as a recipient of lots of plastic surgery not dissimilar to mose i can assure you that the surgeon looking at your junk isn't high on the list of concerns. There's already a lot of trust built into a situation like that.

Yeah, that's true. Somebody cutting open your face, I guess that is. That's more intimacy than just seeing your genitals. I guess also, this is Bob speaking, as I've gotten older, I'm more okay with medical nudity. Where it's just like like here it is do you need to see this it's right here go for it when before i was a teen i'm like i gotta take my pants off i don't like this yeah i guess i guess you're more as you get older you are more used to being seen naked by someone in a private situation yeah yeah but uh but i appreciated sarah

giving us some insight as as an actual person who has had plastic surgery which you know we uh we were all coming at it from an outsider's perspective and uh fiance of the show nina matamoros said that uh we should we should have been calling it cosmetic surgery even though i think they in the show call it plastic surgery that is an outdated term okay that's good good to know too i'll i will uh try to recall remember that uh also on pygmalion angel young says since i'm a soap opera fan i'm going to hold my tongue on a lot of facts however here are two that might interest you the show of the devil position was days of our lives i think all my children was incorrectly mentioned this marked an important

pivot towards shows trying out supernatural storylines because that story aired during the oj simpson trial and was the only show to see its ratings rise the writer for that storyline was given a deal from nbc to work on his own soap opera which became passions the other fact is most soaps had to stop producing during covet 19 when the shows ran on episodes, they held back a few episodes to air when restrictions lifted for continuity and scheduling purposes and aired classic episodes. The only soap opera to have new episodes during that time was Days of Our Lives because of an erratic schedule for budgetary reasons. This led to them having six months of episodes to burn off. They are only recently airing post covid episodes so wow that's uh i i feel like the way angel young came at it from the beginning

there like i'm gonna hold my tongue on facts feels like when i am involved in a thing where wrestling comes up and i'm like look i could talk to you for an hour about wrestling but here's one key fact you should know about the world of professional wrestling. Like that was, oh, I should have promoted it more. If you guys haven't watched it yet, I did. Our friends found footage fest. Right. They did their shatter day morning cartoons where I watched an episode of the rock and roll.

Hulk Hogan's rock and wrestling Saturday morning cartoon with them was a lot of fun. But to make sure it was under an hour, I was like, okay, here's a limited number of pro wrestling facts, guys. I feel that way when it comes to old video games or Simpsons, where it's just like, how irritating can I be? The first time I remember having that feeling was when I realized I was being irritating because I always was like, oh, here's every fact. Let me tell you every fact about everything. That's the child I was growing up with. Oh, oh me too that's why we're all podcasters but the first time i realized it could annoy people uh was after seeing the first spider

man movie in 2002 i was some dude said like oh so in the next movie i bet harry osborn is going to become the hobgoblin and i was just like deep breath like the hobgoblins and then i realized like oh wait no this person doesn't want to hear this it grinds all conversation to a halt i'd be alienated so many people in my youth but i was correct about facts which is more important than alienation and friendship yeah uh so up next we have what a cartoon and let's start with the movie the return of jafar what a fun uh fun Iago-style adventure. Oh, yeah. And Alex Irish kicks off these comments to say, Back when Return of Jafar was newly released, my dad took my sister and I to procure it

from a video store. In the same visit, six-year-old me inadvertently walked out of the store with an unpaid copy of Batman Mask of the Phantasm. I didn't know I had shoplifted by accident. I was over eagerly hoping to persuade my dad to get both videos. He got neither. And we went back to his apartment and his punishment.

We had to watch 1993's Dennis the Menace because that did have a thief in it. And I guess he was trying to get a scared straight tactic on us. And my sister and I ultimately did get the Aladdin sequel. And of course, we watched a bunch. In fact, that and King of Thieves were only disney dtv movies i saw in their original release it makes sense seeing as we were the right age and they were the first in an empire of sequels yeah if you were the right age for the aladdin sequels you would have eaten them all up but then felt like oh the other ones are trash though these are just cash in sequels i really want to know like the context of his punishment viewing of uh dennis the menace like it was his dad just having his arms filled like do you want to be like christopher lloyd do you

want to be like that man i guess dennis learns a lesson in there too i suppose that was christopher lloyd right as the bumbling thief the weird like uh near drifter kind of murderer character yeah he's he was like a lesser version of uh Richards in Problem Child. Yeah, yeah. It's aligned with that stuff. The wet bandits in Home Alone walk that line the best. Why were there so many hilarious crooks in the early 90s? I think it really was like Home Alone showed you it made a billion dollars on weird dude criminals beaten by a little boy. And so every movie had to have that kind of violence in it

also about return to far brian horton says i forgot how much this is iago's movie the under new management re-theming of tiki room is what actually got me to go inside and watch the show for the first time as a kid so i have fond memories of it i'm in the minority of actually liking that version i guess like yeah i think i've only seen of theme park fans negativity towards underdue management i want to go back to disneyland we who'd have thought two years ago who'd have thought we'd be such uh disneyland lovers i got i got into it too yeah she was like disneyland once a year i'm like wait you're gonna love it and i probably would have bought her tickets again by this time of the year just to go again in the winter as a california now i really am just of the mood of like once a year is not enough for disneyland no way it's

gotta be twice i am happy it's still closed and the people who are protesting that are psychotic you are crazy yeah let's how about people don't need to die? And that includes the workers at Disneyland. So up next, we have comments for Back to the Future. And I will say there is a Back to the Future episode of Retronauts coming up, another one. So there'll be a Back to the Future 2 episode at the beginning of the month for patrons. And I think it's a free one, but I can't remember. But we're doing that for Retronauts. And these comments are about the cartoon that we did for What a Cartoon, though.

And Harry Thornton says, I've never seen back to the future series but this episode is perfectly timed after having recently gotten two unofficial back to the future guidebooks written by rich handley that list respectively both everything in the universe and every event on a massive timeline and yes bob gale did enjoy the books the animated series is extensively included in both books thanks to its length, and that's been where I've gotten most of the context for this episode. One of the books even notes another Simpsons connection, Bart Simpson is mentioned in episode 21, as a possible other name for Doc's son Vern,

since he's embarrassed and bullied because of his current name. Ah, that's cute. And the Bob Gale mentions are fun, but funnily enough, Zemeckis has done his own weird thing with Back to the Future recently, where a model De delorean was featured as a plot point in the film welcome to marwin oh i didn't know that i'm not gonna i'm not gonna see that movie i'm sorry it seems a little weird you think with the gay stuff in it i'd be up for it but uh but that's one of those things where it's like i felt they were uh they love the story but they're like oh

i guess it's about a gay guy all All right. I guess his character's gay. Sure. It's only when history forces gayness. I really want to get these Back to the Future guidebooks. They sound awesome. I bet they incorporate the Telltale stuff too if they incorporate the cartoon series. Oh, for sure. Yeah.

I heard somebody else mentioned that in the Telltale games Beauregard of Tannen is mentioned as well. That's true. And also like talking about that retronauts we watch back to the future too again and when we watched it in 2016 we were like well yeah of course biff tannin is trump but getting to know trump even more intimately over the past four years you don't realize how trumpian he is until you watch that movie again like they got everything about him in like circa 1988 every single thing he does is like no that's trump that's trump and that includes like vindictively even though he could have uh his pick of ladies vindictively forcing his high

school sweetheart to marry him after murdering his his opponent yeah it's uh it's it was really incredible to go back to and that uh dave runs on that one too so yeah right back to the future guest on that and also on the back of future animated series kate hayberg says i remember the show a little bit and love this episode of the podcast but most of all i remember the associated happy meal toys the little cars that would charge then let go marty was on a skateboard with bubbles for some reason i believe there was a verne toy but no jewels poor jewels even the dog got a toy they were so much fun to race top tier as far as happy meal toys go and this did unlock a memory for me the only one i had was marty on the skateboard though i had that that's the best one

yeah i think i included the commercial for that in the podcast oh we gotta get to mcdonald's marty great scott they've got these great new Happy Meals. That's great. So up next, we have Aqua Teen Hunger Force, The Shaving. And Shy Ranger says, I agree with you guys that bleep swears are funnier. In fact, this episode has one of my favorite. That is the stupid way TV decided to censor asshole as ass bleep. When I first saw this episode as a dumb preteen, I literally thought Carl was saying, I live here, ass fuck. And to this day, that misunderstanding cracks me up yeah for some reason you could say ass and whole but just the combination yeah it's too filthy just like god and damn it saying god damn

it was like oh that is beyond the pale i i think they did i remember this sketch of ben stiller on like mtv award or whatever where they do he do a lot of sketches in the 90s and one of them was about how they could they could stay ass in the song nookie the did it all for the nookie song you could say shove it up your and you could say ass separate from that but if you said shove it up your ass then ass must be bleeped if it is so there has to be like a perceptible pause between your and ass ass yes apparently you if it is a descriptor of actually doing a thing into or out of an ass uh that is uh too filthy but the word ass is not too filthy but yeah just carl's delivery of like i live here ass boop like it's 10 times funnier than if he just said asshole. Also, Joe Hodgson on Aqua Teen said,

Aqua Teen is the most recent thing I have nostalgia for. I remember watching season one a lot when I was in college, and I even utilized the bonus voicemail messages on the DVDs for my campus phone. There were a few of them, and I went with a really obnoxious one, read by Shake that had a lot of pauses in it as he kept typing the coming beep to leave a message. Only, my college's recording service was apparently more sophisticated than I thought and it auto-removed the silences in the message,

so it was a string of poorly recorded nonsense. I just remember returning a call my dad left for me and him asking, what the hell was that? In hindsight, the people that ever called my phone were my parents so i don't know what i was thinking actually using one of those messages i also find it interesting that this went up after maude death episode of talking simpsons aqua teen is a mean and cynical program that manages to be funny whereas the simpsons in season 11 is struggling to integrate that kind of style of humor

into its programming without being off-putting there's something to be said for making your cast mostly unlikable and only exposing them to 11 minutes that probably helps this show remain as funny as it is yeah i totally agree and also this show this episode launched and we talked about yeah trump is master shake not to get too trumpy in this episode but, this episode launched, and we talked about, yeah, Trump is Master Shake. Not to get too Trumpy in this episode, but after this episode launched, there was so much Trump Master Shake stuff on Twitter, especially the insane steroid-fueled comments he was making as he got out of the hospital. Just like, I've never felt better, and I'm incredibly young. People were syncing that up to Master Shake and putting it on Twitter. It was perfect timing as an ad for our podcast.

Yeah. And I also, it was honestly so long and in-depth that it's worth reading, but hard to do on the podcast. But if you're on the Patreon, please check out the comments made by Rod Sterling, user Rod Sterling on that episode. He has a lot of insight into the episode shake like me and other episodes like it that i think is really helpful so folks should uh just read that one oh definitely yes i gave that i gave that a like yes i did enjoy that comment uh up next we have scooby doo uh jeeper it's the creeper is it it's the key it's the creeper yeah jeepers it's the creeper uh thanks to chris dobbins for being on that I'm sure they will be back on our show.

What a great guest. Yeah, they were great. And so first, Devin Hoffarth says, so here's a fun thing I didn't realize until well after high school. The entire Western mystery genre is completely or partially reliant on the notion of something being supernatural and then revealing it to be mundane. This goes all the way back to Sherlock Holmes.

A good amount of Sherlock stories relied on hinting at something supernatural and then revealing the more scientific truth afterward i'm thinking of the hound of the baskervilles an adventure of the speckled band specifically this was enthralling to a society where science as we know it was just starting to come into being and people could still realistically believe in things like demons or ghosts so in a way scooby-doo is just carrying on the tradition of the 1800s and when i read that comment i was like oh my god duh absolutely it makes so much sense i am thank you devon that was such a like light switching on thing because i didn't think you know scooby-doo obviously i didn't think they pioneered that but i didn't realize it was it's such an obvious connection to all of the sherlock holmes things of just like

hound of the baskerville is probably the most famous one. Where everyone's like, oh, it's a scary thing. It's like, no, no, no. Elementary, my dear idiots. It's actually this or whatever. Yeah. To have, I guess Velma is the Sherlock of it all since she has all the explanations. And the opium addiction.

That's off screen. That's implied. And also a homosexual like I assume sherlock holmes is as well it's been speculated upon uh but all right sure also our final comment on that scooby-doo where are you episode uh because uh no no zombie island comments that'll be next month because it just came out we we we want to give folks time to comment but on scooby-doo where are you? Wongavu T. Dimps says, I've been watching a ton of Where Are You in quarantine for Halloween, and while it's certainly aged in many regards,

there's something so inherently charming about the mystery-solving antics of Scooby and the gang. Honestly, I'm most impressed with the atmosphere of these old shows. The dark blue painterly backgrounds matched with a vibrantly colored cast is just inherently pleasing to me cheap animation at all i don't know maybe i'm just a weirdo but i love the grungy look of this old show yeah i really uh that was kind of how i felt watching too much scooby-doo the month we did that podcast and it also zombie island was there's tons of bad scooby-doo and i'll tell you what i didn't watch was anything from

scooby-doo in the late 70s and early 80s because those i think are just straight up bad yeah where are you has real charm to it i really do the backgrounds are nice because it's halloween people have been posting like a link to like a tumblr or something that just has the scooby-doo background art on it and it's very well done even though they're just like firing them out like as fast as possible there's a lot of craft to them and i really appreciated that same with like uh iwo takamoto's art like takamoto is such a great character designer but he also was just from from reading his biography so many stories of oh and then over the weekend i was told design an entire tv show cast of characters the idea is

beverly hillbillies but bears okay and they just tossed it off i think that maybe if he repeats some tropes or or overuses some design choices it's because joe barbara gave him literally no time to do anything he was just on the assembly line working very fast but i think he is seriously one of the best like animation artists of his generation and takamoto is he's worth celebrating if i know but for some people scooby-doo is like the curse on animation right uh yeah but jimmy carter is smarter it's been true uh yeah so thanks for joining us for another episode of talk to the audience it's been a long weird month as every month has been during quarantine but uh we are going to have a fun rest

of the year uh talking futurama is either coming out on friday for you on the patreon or it's out if you're listening this on the free feed so please go to patreon.com talking simpsons sign up there to hear it as it goes live every friday and uh yeah hopefully i'll be in canada next month yeah just for a little taste of canadian freedom uh well no will november finally be a month where good things happen in this month uh this year i'm hoping november is early christmas for me yeah it's uh what i hope you know uh if you're gonna be celebrating thanksgiving i hope it's as good as can be and uh i mean i guess uh the last instructive i'll say to all you guys is vote which not just vote period that's the tweet no no no vote period is for losers yeah

do not vote for trump but absolutely not don't do that if you're i can't imagine you'd be listening if you would do that but you should vote not just in your local elections and all that but also on the patreon because oh that's the most important vote of all yes yes so uh choose if we're going to do next season 2 or season 12 for Talking Simpsons. Please vote on that. That should be live at the time you're listening to this. And you should also please vote in the movie poll for December of Aqua Teen, the movie, Batman and Superman, the movie,

End of Evangelion, the film, or The Inextremely Goofy Movie. One of those four, vote on those. So keep an eye out for both of those polls as voting season is beginning. So that is it for us for this episode of talk to the ions we'll see you again at the end of november or the beginning of december goodbye Wow. Infotainment.