Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - October 2022

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

We've reached the end of the month, which means it's once again time for another installment of our community podcast. Join us as we discuss the newest episodes of season 34, a fully playable version of the Waterworld parody seen in The Springfield Files, Vice's new documentary on The Simpsons, and Vulture's new ranking of every Treehouse of Horror segment to date. And, as always, we read and respond to your questions and comments from the most recent round of episodes. We swear on Ray Jay Johnson's grave that you'll enjoy this episode! Support this podcast and get over 100 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

I heartily endorse this event or product. magazines man of the year who is here with me today as always hey it's henry gilbert and don't worry this won't have a fan art contest attached to it and if it did we would pay you money yes yeah or give you a subscription or something it's something some sort of uh compensation but yes this is the community podcast on this podcast it launches at the end of the month for patrons on the beginning of the month for people on the free feed and what we do in this podcast is we talk about what's happening in the simpsons world and in our world. And we also respond to your questions and comments from the last month's worth of episodes. And it's been a pretty eventful month,

much more than last month. We're both busy in our personal lives, rather. And the Simpsons world is very busy, too. And we have announcements to make and all kinds of fun things to talk about. So it's going to be a fun episode of Talk to the Audience. It's been a good kind of busy month, but busy hectic month uh all for good reasons no no covid anybody this month

no covid for anybody wow this is a rare a rare month where neither of us are talking about recovering from covid and i've traveled yeah me too yeah and still still states uh covid you know maybe that bivalent booster is doing its thing. I didn't get one. Oh, no. Still doing the research on it. No. I got COVID, so I have to wait until, like, December to get it, unfortunately. By that time, it'll be a trivalent booster or something. I can't wait. I got my flu

shot, though, so any disease may assault me at will. I can fend it off. But as for the Simpsons news, let's talk about that. So, yes, season 34 is rolling on and i've watched a few of these there's been four new episodes to talk about by the way since the last talk to the audience went live this is one i missed uh it's called one angry lisa it features the return of jane kasmerik as a constance harm uh she has not been back since

season 21 all the way back in 2010 so this character returning for the first time in 13 years yeah that was that was a lot of fun uh seeing it's it's an average-ish episode uh all things considered like marge homer buys marge a peloton and she or a parody version of it one of the better jokes in the episode is going like uh uh uh he says the he says peloton and he goes like oh i mean the fake name okay but so it's sort of like uh lego land blocker land kind of thing yeah uh and then lisa gets sent a jury duty notice and it's just jokes about her being on the jury uh and that kind of ends in a cul-de-sac but the biggest surprise for me was yes that out walks judge constant harm and i was like well did they really get jane kismet and then it was

her talking i was like well all right well she's not too busy lately i guess not yeah and well you know what as as we have seen through doing um zoom based podcast or long distance remote podcast recording i think a lot of people over the uh the pandemic learned that they could do voice acting remotely very easily for a good uh good paycheck anyone can be a substance guest star yeah even us we know people are listening man you know al jean is wishing they could have done that back when they did you know the softball episode they had to wait for teams to come into town and all that they didn't have to be frightened by jose canseco bullied more like i think so uh yeah and it was funny because at the beginning of the month we had the return of constance harm and then towards the end of the month we had uh basically to spoil

the end of the uh crusty episode he becomes a judge judy style character and they basically just do the same jokes they did for constance harm in season 12 yeah the exact same jokes yeah you're right it's like tortured metaphors to yell at poor people though that episode also uh had their return of a guest star who had forsaken their previous character and given it up to natasha leone and drew drew bar Barrymore appears to play herself. Meanwhile, she had turned down returning, or she did, I guess I can't say that for sure. She did not return to play Krusty's daughter.

Sophie. Sophie. Boring character. Yes, yeah. But yeah, actually, now that you mentioned it, I didn't even think of that. Sophie should have showed up. Yeah, yeah.

If Drew Barrymore was in the room or remote or whatever, or in her cavernous talk show studio or whatever. I don't know. But she's a nice one. But that's getting ahead of ourselves. Yeah. Anyway, Lisa, when angry, Lisa, you would think that that's not the B story based on that being the title.

But, of course, it was an aljean controlled episode a showrun episode so of course the title of it had to be a very old movie yeah speaking of old movie references uh lisa the boy scout of course uh spoilers the title of this episode does not indicate what it's about uh because it is just a series of like robot chicken style sketches with a not very funny framing device that i didn't care for very much i like the little clips uh i wish that they had stuck to a theme or played around more with the past of the simpsons uh some of them were very funny some of them were like okay al gene approved this field of dreams parody yeah that's the yes there's a few

and some were like when was this written because there's like one little clip of lisa in a restaurant ordering veal i'm like okay i'm rolling i'm rolling my eyes so hard it's just like the most obvious vegan joke they secretly like me and everybody yeah yeah yeah especially the veal jokes are actually in that blame it on lisa episode i was just preparing for they already have a joke about that of like come on lisa it's vacation have meats you're on vacation uh but i uh it was written by uh a previous uh interviewee dan graney yeah it's good to see him back i think he's a consulting producer now yeah i believe mike mitchell tipped us off that there was a little paring down of the executive producers by disney

yeah that's what it seemed like well there were 64 executive producers on the show it was quite a lot i could see that being a problem but yeah the i i okay i liked it other than yes the anonymous people and not so funny uh but i did like that it was titled lisa boy scout that it starts with what seems like a bad corny episode of the Simpsons Lisa wants to be a Boy Scout and she's better at it than Bart and then they slash right through to like no no we're not doing a bad episode and the my favorite stuff honestly this is going to sound like an old man who loves his old Simpsons I'm going there too but it's when they could prove that they could animate how it used to look like, and it looked good. Yes.

That's what I want. They did a scene where Bart goes back to the past, to like season one, but it looked more like season three. But yeah, my own thoughts were you can make the show look like this. Yeah, do this all the time. The colors were the way the colors used to be, not their flatter colors now. The lines were darker they even i i gotta give the animators big credit they had like cell shadows replicated yeah and there weren't the awkward like just overly elaborate lighting schemes in every room

where you can see like shadows cast upon walls and every detail in every spine of every book it just was the way this old man likes the simpsons and they even had the mouth charts were like how they used to be of going past where their muzzles were and and also when they did the uh dealing with the all of the fan theories including homer's been in a coma since he fell in the gorge one and when he woke up from that they animated that to look just like the episode they even had so great in the middle bart is just doing a front facing awkward positioning in it to make it look like the old stuff and i say guys do a whole stunt episode that's animated like that go nuts man yeah i feel like the clips were i wish they had some common theme. I mean, the framing device was, we're going to show you all of these cut scenes from The Simpsons to destroy Disney.

And number one, stop mentioning Disney. I'm sick of it. We know you're owned by Disney. I just don't want to hear about it anymore. It's not funny. I feel like per capita they mentioned being owned by Fox less than they did with Disney. I think so. It's been three years.

And the jokes about Disney are not nearly as scathing. It's more like we're terrified of this huge company that owns us aren't they great the joke is that they're scared not that they spit in the eye of them or say they own chemical weapons plants yes yeah they never do that or that like Bob uh sorry JPEG is in jail yes they yeah could you imagine that one they wouldn't do that no no yeah i just uh i mean points for trying i wish they played more with the past of the show i wish there was cohesive theme to the clips but i was entertained by it and you know what even though it was very dry and dusty and was covered

in cobwebs they found a new spin on a field of dreams parody although yeah the critic one was much funnier where all the baseball players they summon act like they would have in the 40s and 30s. And they're all like racist and drunks. That was a better one, though. Yeah, we just talked about them shitting all over the Canadian Football League as well in season two. So 32 years later. Another reference to Rouges. That's right. In this episode.

You know, the two other things I want to say about was i love that the one they treated as it was such a great inside joke that the one they treated as the ultimate this will destroy the show is santa's little helper coming in and talking and acting like a person because that is like i think rule number one against it for matt graining that's matt graining's nightmare and but then they later they show actual clips of the show. Yes. Including the jockey elves scene. I think there's some guts in the show with the Maude death scene.

You know. Yeah. It's like the jockey elves scene it's fine now. That didn't ruin the show. Maude dying did. Though I mean when they showed Burns with his eyeballs I was like wait yeah that did happen. Yeah. I think i might have seen that one uh with nina in which they take this like happiness medication but it makes their eyes

fall out right boy that's very weird that's a weird one yeah it uh but yeah i i like them taking chances that's what's fun and and sadly uh whenever we do that live show we have planned we're going to have to talk about it as well because they do an entire joke about predicting the future. Hey, we predicted that episode by planning our live show first. That's true. Oh, and last thing I'll say, though, too, is I actually a 34 year old man doing, I guess, a undercover thing at the school. And so Matt Selman quote tweets it like, I can't believe the show. This ruined the show.

This is all out of continuity thing. And he got so many replies of like, you ruined the of like who didn't get the joke but that also happened to definitely to christine angle and brody gupta two of the newer writers in the show who are also women uh which might explain why they got a ton of shit is like you were ruining the simpsons you don't even know what you're talking about when they were joking about how they wrote a joke on the show that they thought would never get in it because uh it was too ridiculous and then it was put in that episode and yeah people are very rude to matt salman on twitter not knowing who he is when he tweets about the show people will respond like why is this even on it sucks so much and uh i i mean i bet they look back to the no homers club days of like well

that was you know uh heaven yes people can't directly come up to my doorstep and say i suck and i'm bad at my job i have to go to a forum to see them complain about me it's true yeah it used to used to be uh much more uh sequestered from from their eyes yeah they could only what was that story bill oakley told that he said that he like asked for printouts of what they were saying on some forum one day and then he threw it in the trash at the end of the day like there were no more printouts brought in of news groups right right uh and then there's another weird episode this month that uh we were talking before the show it was sort of like a in defense of ellen a little bit uh because crusty uh it's also like my wife watches these shows and i hate her so much. It is a little of that.

It feels like the parodies of the view we recently talked about on the show, just like husband's mad that their wives are watching these daytime talk shows. Although they're nice to Drew Barrymore, but it's like Krusty, the clown shows are out. Harmless daytime talk shows are in where you're dancing and, you know, playing fun games with guests.

Yeah. You drink for, you dance for drinking wine moms. That's what you dance for. And it also, I mean, I think it is perfectly cast that Lindsay Nagel would be the evil producer of this show. And it's not a terrible like Marge gets a job thing because, sure, Marge would come up with the kind of like wacky ideas that would be on one of those shows. Like, you know, instagram dog reviews or whatever but yeah the it's clearly pulled from the real headlines of ellen degeneres her show ending

because during the pandemic it came out that she is actually quite mean and also has some very had some very mean producers who would pretty much torture uh interns all day long but this episode does make crusty look exactly like ellen but then say that like oh actually crusty's just incredibly checked out and doesn't know anything that is going on here which kind of absolves him of sin a bit too much he even says on the show this is the only workplace i haven't been problematic in yes yeah there is no miss no means no on the sets for him oh yeah yeah but but yes and then drew barrymore appears that was one of those ones where it felt like classic simpsons advertising to me where i saw her cameo in my twitter feed before i watched the episode and i thought like oh okay so she must be featured somewhere in the middle, right?

And it's like, no, it's the post-credits. They just put the post-credits gag on Twitter to promote the episode, even though it's, like, the end of the episode. You know, I don't think that was on the Hulu version I watched. Oh, really? The post-credits scene. I don't think so. Oh, wow.

There was a post-credits scene with Lindsay Nagel, but there was no Drew Barrymore Marge scene after the credits. Oh, really? Why did I say after? After the credits after the credits excuse me okay well i i definitely saw it oh no i saw the lindsey nagel in the see that's where there was an ellen is mean joke about the the torture daytime producers and and then i found out that on the drew barrymore show show marge simpson called in to promote the episode as well which was mainly just uh julie cavner recorded a bunch of like tonight show style jokes about and i'm on drew barrymore because this blah blah and it's and of course you get to see drew barrymore has to react in the biggest like if you think people on youtube who overreact to things are hamming it up too

much drew barrymore doesn't i know it's her job but she was like she was also crying a lot online recently i forget what that was about yeah she cries i feel like there's at least one crying segment per episode though if i'm one of those producers i feel like from what i've seen in the first year or whatever of her production i have seen a charlie's angels reunion i've seen a scream reunion and i man i think there was some level of et reunion it's like you're gonna run out of drew barrymore reunions eventually you know there's there's only so many movies how about a mad love reunion oh Ooh, yeah. Or the boys on the side reunion, at the very least with Whoopi. Riding in cars with girls? Is she in that one?

I was dating a Drew Barrymore fan in the early aughts. Oh, I see. Hey, Drew. Riding in cars with boys. That's the one. She was the girl. I saw Boys on the Side in theaters, and I learned the word cunt from that movie. And you said, more boys, please.

Yes, yeah. Make that the main dish. You know, Whoopi's gay. It's gay-ish and AIDS-y-ish because it was made in the mid-90s. Okay. So, you know, it's all those things. Not to spoil too much of the plot of Boys on the Side. Watch it yourself.

If you want to see Drew Barrymore topless, also, you can watch it for that. That's what Mr. Skin is for. I guess that'll save you cut out the movie Middleman yeah this episode The King of Nice is actually the Plot is Marge becomes a segment producer It feels very Scully-esque And it's that it's the problem of somebody like deep

Within the Hollywood system it's like The life of a segment producer can she make it It's like nobody can connect with that at all Yeah same with our weird Jobs it's like how can I produce all these podcasts in time? How can I get them all out? There's no show about that. The Marin Show was canceled, folks.

Yes, nobody wanted it. The Zach Braff Podcaster Show. Not on TV anymore. Did you know Zach Braff does a Scrubs show that's our show? Yes. We need to find a way to take these guys down. I feel like it's just a matter of time before somebody gets Nancy Cartwright to do one of these for us. I think we're lucky in that they're all too old.

Yeah, yeah. They probably, they're not. Although this is a challenge to them. Sorry, go ahead. No, no. You know, also the last thing I want to say on King of Nice is that they had, Marge did a scream reaction. I screenshotted it and tweeted it. Marge did a scream reaction. I screenshotted it and tweeted it. Marge did a scream reaction to Bart,

and she was given the wiggly worm tongue. And I feel like, I mean, I haven't been on the lookout for it all the time, but that felt special to me. I do feel like some of the animators are picking up the old styles and sticking it in where they can. Maybe it's not as consistent as it used to be.

Yeah, maybe. So Hot Off the presses the halloween episode one of them one of two not it's aired last night uh i didn't watch it i didn't have time henry did watch it and uh i'm only annoyed by it because there was a fan art contest where the grand prize was exposure yes and that's it uh exposure on a part of the episode most people skip so yeah that really annoyed me uh because when i saw matt selman like retweeting the contest and i was like okay something's up with this i'm not blaming matt selman but let's investigate further i click on the contest rules like search for any sort of compensation search for anything you get nothing sir nothing i just give us some prizes yeah like a jacket a year of disney plus like disney only makes like exponentially

more money every year if you're going to use people's work in your show give them something even uh just something that doesn't cost you any money something you can write off just to not insult them and i know people are excited that their art is on the show, but I feel like they're taking advantage of people who value that more over their own dignity. It's like, wow, a break. But you're not going to get any breaks from that, I don't think. No, I mean, I get from some people why they think it's, you know, hey, got my thing on the show. Exposure is good for me. I was seen by like millions of people which sure but also when i watched it on the show some people did you know have a clear signature uh that you could see but it didn't say like art by this person like it was uncredited arts or at least

if it if there were credits in there i didn't see we're not easy to see yeah but the the episode itself uh it's a fine little parody look it parodies are back because you because there was a recent duo uh it films from the last like five six years uh which you know honestly all of my it knowledge i never read the book was from the tv miniseries with Tim Curry, It. I did see that, yeah. But though it's like, I mean, it's really just a bunch of Stephen King parodies shoved together. But I will say, after watching other treehouses where they have to speed everything up so fast and you're watching, you know, a six-minute version of a two hour movie this was more like a 22 minute version of two two hour movies so paced a bit better i think they don't really do that enough uh i mean like

things like cape fear were in a way beat for beat parodies of the movie but they don't really do it that often even something like um itchy and scratch Scratchy Land, it's part Westworld, part Jurassic Park. Yeah, yeah. And that's only for the last two acts of the episode. I think this one might end up being successful enough. I'll say it's a weird line they have in it because Krusty sometimes is funny and other times he just is gross and creepy.

It is a gross and creepy episode. And they have a joke about how ooder isn't around anymore and also he's he's one of the missing kids it's it's all right it's it's all right i found out uh based on someone who works on the show that this is also a bongo did it first idea oh really i think uh in 2017 uh correct me if i'm wrong, listeners, but they did a Treehouse of Horror comic chapter called It Happens. Oh, that's a good name, too. So they did both this and Death Notes in Bongo Comics first. Although I know the content is different.

They're not adapting the comic, of course, but I'm conflicted, especially when it comes to the next episode we'll talk about uh next month yes unfortunately if you're hearing this on the free feed this is after the actual treehouse afar 33 airs on october 30th but we're recording this before that of course so you'll have to hear us talk about it then uh but you know those bongo comics some of them are back in print now i actually just got at the ominous omnibus of a bunch of classic treehouse comics from there but where the hell where's the nina matsumoto content in there you have to wait say that's uh come on aren't there gonna be three of them i guess so she was writing uh sorry she was illustrating towards the end of the run so she'll probably be in like uh back of two or volume three i'm guessing but they should put in the award-winning ones first i I just want the Nina section chopped out.

I mean, honestly, I think Nina's famous enough now to get her own collection of Simpsons ones. She should. Yeah. And if you are familiar with the very dated parody of Kevin Costner's Waterworld from the Springfield Files, there is a full playable freeware version developed by the indie game developer Macaw45. And it's pretty in-depth. It's very impressive. You can play it for can play for free and hey way to go i want to see a version of this for every simpsons video game parody yes yeah larry the looter next that's the you know no i think we said when we play when we

watched it i think escape from grandma's house would be a perfect like one screen kind of game easy easy to copy and make yeah yeah i guess the older the parody is the easier it is to make but i i really like that it uh i watched a let's play of it i didn't play it myself but that they do make you put in the 40 quarters one by one the first time and then after you've got the joke you're like okay i'll we'll let you put this in five at a time or whatever the next time it would be a great troll if it was sort of like a desert bus style experience and that it was just the tedium of entering quarters for every five steps he takes.

But it actually turns into a real game after the first joke. Yeah. Which is pretty neat. Yes, so if you've got a computer, you must have a computer. I'm guessing if you're listening to this or maybe you just have a phone.

I don't know. Find a computer. This is not my responsibility, but play the game. It looks really cool. Your local library. I don't know. Find a computer. This is not my responsibility, but play the game. It looks really cool. Your local library. Fill it with that. Yes.

Tell people, get away from people looking at porn and just play the game and then leave. So in other news, there is a new documentary about the Simpsons made by the criminals and villains

from the toys slash movies that made us. The unwatchable, just awful documentaries uh you've heard us complain about these a billion times check off your bingo cards probably why we're not invited on these shows no i i i fully agree with bob i said it too i've watched i just because i've watched more of them doesn't mean i don't dislike them as well but yeah and friends of the show ellie and julia were on this uh and you know uh that's good i'm glad they got uh simpsons podcasters on yeah yeah not just writers and of course they're getting la

locals so i get that too yeah yeah but no i mean the icons on earth they did the vice did a season of this the year before now they're doing is a season about the simpsons i only watch the first episode because i don't subscribe to vice tv and they put only the first episode for free on YouTube. And my thoughts are the same that I have about all of their documentaries. And this goes the same also for they did a documentary series on Disney theme park rides. And it's the same every single time. They actually like there are great producers on this who talk to the real people who I would say oh man you got to talk to this person if you can and then they do and then those good interviews that actually get some interesting new stuff

goes through the editing machine that is just like just sound bullshit and cuts everywhere like watching it with my husband i said all right how long until the first record scratch and it's within five minutes is is when it oh my god yeah i just i feel like the editing ruins all the material that they uh research for these these documentaries yeah it's uh i i haven't watched uh past the first episode only covers the shorts the creation to the sign off on season one. Based on the commercials, I am certain they're going to talk. They do talk to Mimi Pond, and I bet she tells them some of the stuff we heard in our own interview. They also do talk to Bill Kopp saying exactly the stuff we said,

though ours was much better and not full of stupid editing. We can add record scratches if you want. Maybe we'll be more popular if we had like clown horns, record scratches, the sounds of like car accidents in the background. It keeps people engaged. And the other good, bad thing about it is they do interview people, two guys who I've never heard talked to before. No, three guys. Because they're all executives.

Two of them are fox executives and one is an ep who worked on the tracy allman show who clearly is not friends with james l brooks anymore because if he was he wouldn't be allowed to do we've been asked to not do this yeah i'm sure a memo went out from the brooks office saying do not contribute to this please john vd didn't get that memo or he ignored it hey he's retired right he's retired uh but he but yes so they talked to two fox executives so you really just hear a lot of the inside tales of and here's how i sold it to barry diller and i talked to him it's like and i you know executives giving green lights to shows is how shows are made in america so i get it but i'm also like can we hear more from people who fucking drew or wrote this thing like i don't want to just hear from all the rich executives going like, and then I talked to Barry Diller and he is a master at bullshit detection.

Let me tell you. I saw Wes Archer was on the show. Yes, yeah. They talked to Wes and they talked to Bill Kopp. And I don't know how many other animators. They're the only two animators in the first one but i guess they would be the only ones because if they couldn't get david silverman and well it's only an hour long right is it only an hour 40 ish minutes hour with commercials yeah i mean

and they do actually find the woman who worked at klasky chupo and uh made tell told them to make the skin yellow oh georgie palouse georgie palouse who now it's like uh she's she's hyphenated i believe she's uh you know she's gotten married and has a second name so but yeah georgie palouse and uh they get into the controversy like did she really or didn't she and it's uh so look that's the that's the frustrating thing you do learn a couple things that i actually bothered to find some people but it is heavily skewed towards executives and full of incredibly frustrating editing so yes i i don't if it's all just dumped on hulu eventually i'll probably end

up watching it all at some point it's not for a podcast listening audience not even for like a youtube essay uh watching audience oh no no no no yeah unlike i mean yeah our pal real jims puts out better stuff than that all of the time yes yeah so moving on guess what guys there's new uh simpson shoes can you believe it although i think the design of these is incorrect because it's marge uh like the body and face of marge emerging from the blue fuzzy material of the shoe. It would make more sense if it was Homer backing into the hedges, right? Yeah, it should have been the hedge thing. Yeah.

Or Marge's face should be at the bottom of the shoe and then the rest of the shoe going up is her hair. Yeah, like her face could be at the toes of the shoe or whatever. Yeah. Instead it's her face on the side. Yeah. I went to this shoe news site. Sorry, sneaker news yes one of

the uh verticals is uh yeezy release dates i say guys you got to get rid of that vertical oh yes like this new shoe has a swastika on it well that's a bold design folks he's becoming a nazi and it's not fun to watch it's uh unchecked mental illness isn't uh hilarious yeah no especially as he gets closer and closer to being president i I'd say. It's even worse. Adidas, though, I preferred their Snowball 2 shoes that look like they killed Snowball, to be honest. But yes, that's the Simpsons that made us, or whatever the hell it's called. Oh, sorry, we're on the shoes. Yes, yeah.

I mean, they're probably going to be $80 shoes. I'm not getting those shoes. You've got a lot of Simpsons shoes, Henry. I already have Simpsons shoes. Intervention time. I'm saving them for special occasions. I wore mine for the first time this summer. I wore some Simpsons shoes to D23, the ones with all the people on them, the slip-on version of the vans with all the characters on it.

I wore that to D23 when i went to that one so that was and i'm saving though the mr plow shoes for our first live show whenever that happens hopefully january of next year hopefully no new variants please uh and in final our final bit of news here uh vulture ranked every treehouse segment to date and uh this article was originally written 11 years ago but they keep updating it over time so I don't think the original writer has anything to do with it anymore yeah normally I write down like written by blank but it's like no I don't think so but yeah this is the update I mean when there's new tree houses they updated with new tree houses but though I think number 98 and number one have not

changed which is diving bell in the butterball at 98 which i think most people agree is the worst one i think i watched that uh with nina my wife and uh it's about homer farting to communicate with lisa it's a lot of farting it was i could not imagine like i never thought when the simpsons first air there'd be this much farting on the show and the shitting is number one on their list i'm i'm still. I've read this list before, but I'm still upset every time that, to me, at the very least in top five should be Homer Sells a Soul. That one should be it. The Devil and Homer Simpson, right?

Thank you, yes. And we were, okay, the article's old. This is the important part. Yeah, who cares about the article? It's old. It's old news. What's new news is in this new version, they mentioned us simpsons yeah in the entry for dead ringer quote one of the best simpsons podcasts around talking simpsons plays a take that lisa's belief soundbite whenever

someone mocks lisa for her determination dead ringer is one long take that lisa's beliefs so there you have it thank you thank you writer who yes whoever put in that new entry in there and probably not is the credited writer. I've been through this on my own listicles have been updated by people who aren't me and have my name on it still. So I feel, yeah. They just delete the websites I used to work on. So I don't have that problem. Mine is still, it's true. Yeah.

Which is more painful, I wonder. They're both pretty bad. They're both pretty, yes. But what's not bad is finally being recognized as one of the best simpsons podcasts around by vulture thank you so name the others we'll take them down yeah we one of the best uh we have an enemies list now you guys are we but uh but hey what you know link to us next time but hey we're open for if you need a simpsons uh commentary or source for a simpsons article you know where our email's right hey we're open for if you need a simpsons uh commentary or source for a simpsons article

you know where our email's right there we're easy to find yeah easy to find moving on to news about us uh let's talk about our schedule for november our what a cartoon episode for november will be the kim possible episode kimitation nation yes we're jumping back to the feel good days of 2002 get out your striped sweaters your cargo shorts your large Nokia phones oh god yeah your candy colored IMAX as well yeah yeah

we're talking about Kim Possible this is a patron pick and it's something we've been thinking about doing so I'm glad our patron chose this because you know it's a respectable show and it shows Disney moving in a different direction than they did in the 90s and before. Yeah, it's our first Disney Channel original. So there's a lot of history to go into there as well. And it's I think it's the first Disney Channel original cartoon, right?

Proud Family. Proud Family. Then Kim Possible. Right. Right. Yeah. But hey, we'll make a cover of Proud Family at some point. I'd like to.

It's back. It's back. Oh, yeah. They did an actual. I remember when Proud Family came back and they actually did an episode about gay parents being a hot button issue at their school or something. And then it came out the week Disney was getting shamed for their participation in the Don't Say Gay Bill.

That's what I remember. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully it did well. I like Bruce. Bruce Smith? yeah bruce w smith w smith yeah let's let's say what his name is in sag afro otherwise it doesn't count yeah uh moving on uh so for five dollar and up patrons we have of course our monthly episodes of talking futurama and talking of the hill for talking futurama we're starting with uh the beginning of season four, and that's Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch. If it's not clear from the title, it's where Kif is impregnated by Amy slash Alila, and a lot of gross body things happen to him. And it's very heartwarming.

I didn't like it before, but now I kind of like it. Yes. Hey, as adults now, we appreciate it much better than as teens, as surly teens. Also, after we recorded it, don't give us crap about, like, hey, you didn't mention how in Picard they brought back Moriarty. We recorded it before that trailer came out. But, yes, we do talk about holodeck Moriarty a bit anyway. Oh, they're bringing him back?

Yes, yeah. It's the big oh man bob the season three and hopefully last season they announced it of picard trailer they have all of their like look all your favorites are back kind of thing and so you're left thinking man who's left to bring back for the big shocking like end of the reveal trailer uh and it's the same actor holodeck moriarty is back nice what about genghis khan is he back uh no he's not unfortunately that's too bad so yeah uh talky futurama will be covering kiff gets knocked up a notch and then on talking of the hill we'll be covering uh propane boom the season two finale and big cliffhanger it's a great

episode we have so much fun talking about that one. Yes. And moving on our What a Cartoon Movie for November was going to be a Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol but it won the poll and people were like, I don't like this. I'll kill that old man. So we decided we want to make the patrons happy and we launched

a second poll featuring all three kids horror movies from 2012. It was a weird year the fall of 2012 had paranormal frank and weenie and hotel transylvania and paranormal one i was not expecting that yeah i expected hotel transylvania me too but our first like a film it won our halloween hangover poll and if you're listening to this on the patreon the transformers movie podcast is coming if you're listening to this on the free feed, it's already there at the $10 level. So sign up for the Patreon at patreon.com

slash TalkingSimpsons. Yeah, over four hours of toy talk. And wait till you hear how mad I get at the stupid Transformers. Who's your favorite Transformer, Bob? Gleep Glop. Whatever his name is. The one who dies.

Optimus Prime? A lot of them die. Yeah, actually many, many die die yes uh so you might be asking yourselves you know hey goober where's the poll for december because we normally talk about upcoming polls on these podcasts well we decided to make an executive decision because for four years of what a cartoon movie we've been kept under the tyranny of democracy by by letting all of our listeners vote and we. And we're resolving this by selecting movies ourselves

for most of the year. This means polls are going away outside of two listener request months for the year. Those months will probably be April and September. But we have a lot of reasons for this choice.

The major reason is less than a fourth of our patrons actually vote in these polls. Less than a fourth of eligible patrons, I should say, which means a very small minority of subscribers are actually deciding the content. And we don't think that's very fair, but we appreciate the voters. We just want everyone to vote. Yeah, we open it up to $5 voters as well. Not just the $10 folks who can hear it, but usually on online good to turn out it is like

at best a third i think is the most we've ever gotten in one but and we appreciate all those votes but yeah it kind of uh slowed down a bit and as you guys have seen uh we've already done a few yes or no because sometimes we really want to do just shrek you know yes or no was a big cheat for us by the way because it was always yes yes yeah because well because you knew it's what we wanted and you want to make us happy and we appreciate yeah I think polls would be more fun on Patreon if you didn't see the results before you voted I think because my theory is one thing gets an early lead and then everyone votes for that because they don't want to vote for the loser they don't want to throw their vote away

exactly so yeah I wish they would address that on Patreon. I'm sure it's not one of their priorities. At least let it be a setting. You can pick like hidden results. Yeah. Like on Twitter. Like you vote for a thing on Twitter and then you see the results. You don't see the results ahead of time.

So yeah, that's one reason we're getting rid of polls. Another reason is lots of life changes are happening for Henry and I. We'll talk about those soon. And we're also getting busier as the world opens up. I've been to two conventions to do panels in the past couple of months. So, you know, time is very tight and we need to work ahead as much as possible. And not having polls means we can work ahead even more than we normally do. Yeah, we could record like three months of movies ahead of time that's when we decide what they are yeah so yeah that's uh the other reason so yeah reason number one no one was voting reason

number two we need more time and i think at this point after four years of what a cartoon movie and uh almost i don't know eight years of podcasts between me and henry we you can trust us by now yeah i think yeah you you guys have enjoyed when we do the executive decision ones. You're like, you, you like them. It's, it's a lot of fun and we, we keep them pretty varied.

And also, you know, another thing I noticed was when we started, it's like, Oh, we have, you know, dozens and dozens of movies that are easy to put into like a genre pick of

four commonalities. But now it's like, okay, we'll, we were thinking of like two anime things can we do we have three and four that we'd add to it and so yeah yeah it's just easy to pick so uh and of course you already know what our december one is if you're hardcore but i think we called it last year for a millennium actress we're like you know what we should do tokyo godfathers yes december one

so that that's going to be the December one. It is a very holidays movie as well. It's a New Year's and a Christmas movie. Yeah, yeah. So it's very good. And yeah, I hope you guys out there understand our decision. And everything's going to be fine. Don't worry about that.

And yeah, now we're like heading towards our 50th episode. So I'm very happy this project has been successful. Even though it's very, very very time intensive it really does a lot for us and I'm sure everyone out there enjoys it as well so moving on another big announcement in case you missed the schedule post on the Patreon Blabbing About Batman the animated series is coming back for

season 2 on November 11th 8 new episodes for $5 and up patrons they will launch every Thursday night slash Friday it's like Thursday 9pm you know how we do things here it's like we do it 9 p.m uh pacific time the day before so it's like midnight eastern so that's how it works so you can all wake up like it's christmas morning to get your new podcast in the next morning but you you'll know what all of them are because the schedule has been posted yes yeah so it's like you peeked in the closet, me and Bob, I guess don't read the schedule if you want to be surprised.

But yeah, me, me and Bob each picked four and there's, there's just so many great episodes of Batman. We could easily do another season of this and not pick the same episodes again, just like we did this time. Yes. Even though these are our second favorites, a lot of them almost made the cut the first time. But yes, please look forward to that that i'm getting started on producing those and again it starts

november 11th for five dollar and up patrons and the entire schedule of what episodes we'll be covering is going to be available or sorry is available on our patreon as a public post so look for it there if you're not even a patron you can see it yourself so let's move on to what we've been playing and watching that's not related to the show well you know it's travel time for me uh last month i went to pax this month i went to portland retro gaming expo i'm leaving for tucson soon to visit fangamer for the first time and then i'm going to be going to denver for a fun birthday trip with my wife so a lot of travel a lot of working between trips not a lot of time for games a little more splatoon 3 and mostly outside of that uh lots of games for retronauts episodes so

in case you're not paying attention to retronauts i've been doing a starfox two-part series i've been playing every starfox game yeah and that's been the extent of my gaming october that is incredible dedication like there's so many people i feel like there's some jerks out there who might assume like bob's just reading from a wiki page or whatever like i've seen those jerky comments but you you played starfox zero you bought and turned on your wii u and played starfox zero i mean it's not hard because it's still hooked up yeah i'm the one freak left but i did buy a new copy of Star Fox Zero. And spoilers, I kind of like it.

I am shocked to hear that. I kind of like it a little bit. And some of those later ones aren't so bad. So that's what I've been doing. I wanted to play a short spooky game. So I played this game called Stories Untold. It's on Steam. It's probably very cheap by now. All I'll say about it, I don't want to spoil anything.

It's like a spooky take on text adventures. And it's over in like three hours. So if you've got an afternoon, you can play through it. I thought it was a lot of fun. And as for watching stuff, just a few movies because, you know, very, very busy. But the first movie I saw, I believe I saw the day we recorded the last talk to the audience. So that movie is Barbarian, a very spooky movie. Now, my wife Nina and I disagree on this.

I think you should not know anything about the movie before going in. She doesn't think that's necessary. In general, I think if you go into anything blind, you might have a better time. With this one, maybe not, but I feel like the less you know, the more surprised you'll be.

Interesting. Yeah, I mean, mainly what I've been hearing from everybody who's seen it is like Nina Nina is the outsider and that most people I've heard say you should know nothing know nothing just go go watch it it's not like the matrix or anything like that I don't think so I mean ultimately the premise is very simple but going into it not knowing because the title is so vague going into it not knowing what's going to happen. You're just like, all right, I'm ready.

I'm ready to be surprised by this. But yeah, it was very good. Directed by and written by, sorry, Zach Krager from The Way's Kids You Know. Oh, wow. The handsome one. Yes, the cute one who stars in movies. The co-star of Miss March. Right, yeah.

With Trevor Moore. R.I.P. Yes march right yeah with trevor moore yeah r.i.p yes but uh yeah he he's not in the movie i mean he plays a part he plays like a voice on a phone he's kind of in it but like i feel like sketch comedians are becoming our new good horror directors you're right man you know i guess it's all built around a similar idea of misdirect and surprise uh except in a sketch it's like actually he farted or whatever that's the misdirect and a lot of uh sketch comedy is horror like i'm going to be murdered but it's funny you know or i'm in a horrible situation and the sketch ends with like they're gonna die certainly after uh get out more people were discovering like oh yeah a lot of

these uh key and peel sketches like they're kind of just a a horror film as well with just like three extra jokes than a regular horror film would have so i recommend barbarian especially during the halloween season but even after it's just a little fun uh very tight horror movie that uh i think is great i think it's really really good i also saw uh cats for the first time. Wow. Because Nina did the cover art for the riff tracks of it. And I was like, what's this about? And she wanted to show me. My main thoughts of watching the movie is I feel bad that people had to do this.

It's deeply embarrassing. All the Cats jokes have been made. I won't belabor the point. But boy, oh boy. It's like, I'm just embarrassed by watching it well have you ever have you seen the musical live ever in in life i haven't but after watching the movie i watched the lindsey ellis video about cats and i was like oh i kind of would want to see the musical more than i would want to see the movie it makes sense more in that context than in this CGI monstrosity context.

Well, when you're in a theater, the review style of it makes a lot more sense. Like when it's live people dancing around you, but oppositely when you have to film people and then there's the entire special effects bullshit of it too. And also just a general critique i have of theatrically released musical adaptations is often they are like well it has to be a movie star starring in this but today's movie stars unlike judy garland who was tortured to be a movie star and be able to sing

and dance and do everything i love it yourself but he can't sing no no yeah everybody loves dame judy dench she can't sing you know who can sing though james corden yeah god god i don't want to see that guy asshole and i mean taylor swift can sing but she can't act and they're going to zoom in on her and then it's also like even the covers suck like the only good singing in it is jennifer hudson and in that case they just want to show you every rivulet of snot yeah it's not as put sick a one-piece panel or something just not as pouring out of her nose but I mean she sings memory very well that yeah that is actually fine in the movie but yeah deeply embarrassing and I

feel bad for everyone in it and I hope the director has been put in movie jail the king's speech was a fluke everyone yeah I mean the more we watch it i know the queen just died but so it's a mean time to say but that movie ain't so special yeah it's like oh man isn't it great that this the king gave a speech that really helped beat the nazis like yeah sure but the riff tracks was funny of uh cats i will say that oh i'm sure it was i would not want to watch it without the riff tracks i mean no amount of drugs uh would make it more enjoyable i don't think no way uh moving on for the first time i saw donnie darko you know wow i see i just did this snap reaction you've never seen donnie darko that's that's a common reaction on this podcast yeah i'm sorry hey i play more video games than you it's true it's true uh donnie darko yes i would have enjoyed

it but if i had seen it at 19 or 20. Of course. I feel like everybody in college told me, this movie's so fucked up, man. And I thought it was perfectly enjoyable. I feel like Jake Gyllenhaal doesn't know what movie he's in. And at times it feels like he's playing the SNL sketch character version of Donnie Darko. Like if SNL did a Donnie Darko sketch, Jake Gyllenhaal is doing that performance. Wow, that's a good point. But I won't hold it against the director.

I thought it was perfectly fine. A lot of the movie is hard to make out because there's an extended cut that explains all of the lore and the science behind what's happening in this time travel story. But yeah, I could honestly tell it was written by a 22-year-old. Because it was like, if I was in high school, I'd be doing this kick-ass shit. You know, when that guy came in, he was given an assembly he's spewing bullshit i stood up and was like fuck you you're a liar yes yeah yeah and then everybody clapped for me and everybody clapped yeah there are lots of scenes like that the bullies would feel bad when they killed my girlfriend they'd regret what they did yeah it does feel like it was written by a very young and immature man but you know the most i identify with donnie darko in that movie is when he's arguing with

them about smurfs when he's like because they're going but they're all fucking smurfette he's like smurfette was created by gargamel and she fell in love with him smurfette that's why smurfs there's only one girl because he's the creation of gargamel i was like yes he's correcting them with the lore maybe i would have enjoyed that in 2001, but every podcast is that kind of discussion. Sure, sure. And I feel like people saw Clerks and was like, they were like, what if we talked about like cereal and stuff

or Star Wars or we can just have, we can, you know, the conversation we're having now, it's funny. This could be a movie. You know, I think Venture Brothers had the best Smurf joke about like, they're mammals. He has a fucking beard. Yeah, that's much better. That's the best smurf joke about like they're mammals he has a fucking beard yeah that's much better that's much better but yes uh yeah donnie darko it's fine uh i'm glad i finally got to i got to see it though it's like an early aughts uh college classic you know the

other problem with donnie darko is it breaks that msd3k rule of don't show me a better movie in your movie yes now this is how i mean uh it's the guy takes his girlfriend to the first evil dead yes yeah you could tell a 24 year old wrote this movie it's like i took my girlfriend evil dead and it wasn't even evil that too was evil dead one that was a test if your girlfriend stays with you that then she's an awesome girlfriend yeah but she fell asleep and i'd kill myself for her man i would i'd let a thing drop on me uh yeah like i said it was a dorm room like boondock saints fight club style experience but uh better than boondock saints for sure but now you get all those references to cellar doors and sparkle motion hey cellar door

was around before donnie darko okay well that's where i learned about it from drew barrymore yeah just talking about who plays a teacher in that movie she's like 25 in that movie she looks too young also i had never heard that tears for fear song before i hadn't either no uh wait no i hadn't i think it was in mad world i hadn't heard that before either but yeah that song right right the amazing opening which uh i feel like is more on the cinematographer than the director. I don't know. I don't want to take too much away from it. Up next, Southland Tales. Oh, God, yes. I've got to see that eventually. But yeah, enough talking about movies.

One last movie. I watched Transformers as a movie. You'll hear about that if you pay me money. Oh, yes. And I also saw the vampire movie Near Dark. Have you seen or heard of Near Dark? No, I have not heard of this. Directed by Catherine Bigelow. Oh, cool. Who was formerly the partner of James Cameron which is why everyone from Aliens is in this movie oh awesome oh wow it's very good I will

say the third act the movie falls apart but the first two acts are very good it's the non-romantic view of what being a vampire in then modern America was in that it sucks you're nomads and you're just living a desperate life. And I would recommend it. Just know that the movie, the end will not satisfy you in any way. Oh, well, okay. I'll still give that a watch, though.

That sounds awesome. I didn't know Bigelow had a new thing. It's from 87. Oh, okay. All right, then I hadn't heard of this Bigelow film. This was before she was making torture movies. Oh, okay, right. Zero Dark Thirty, is that her?

Yeah, it's her. Okay. But yeah, 87, Catherine Bigelow. She made Point Break, too, right? Oh, yes, yes. She that her? Yeah, it's her. Okay. But yeah, 87, Catherine Bigelow. She made Point Break too, right? Oh, yes. Yeah, she's great. Yeah, but good movie. It's also very hard to find.

I had to pirate it. Really? Yes, I couldn't rent it digitally anywhere. Interesting. Yeah, but that's it for me. Okay. Well, you know, stuff, I'll talk about the, play it and watching before the big stuff. But so I beat Yakuza 0.

I had a lot of fun with it. I especially love when I can spot like, oh, in the Yakuza version of morale, in this series version of morality, this character did wrong and must die. Oh, but this character doesn't get to die. When I finished Yakuza 0, I played 120 hours and it was like congratulations 27% of the game is complete now oh my god yeah now play every dice game yeah there's I accidentally started

up a shogi game once I was like oh wait no I can't learn how to play this actually I did that with I started up Yaxa 2 Kiwami when I had COVID like let's give this a shot and then I was like you know maybe I'll try the shogi game and see if it can teach me. And then there were 30 pages of instructions. Yes.

Oh, God. Yeah. Same with Koi Koi, which, hey, I'm, though, honestly, it's not like they make it so you can't progress in the story without playing it. It's just like, hey, we didn't cut a minigame. We kept a minigame in. And if you want to play it, there it hey we we didn't cut a mini game we kept a mini game in and if you want to play it there it is you don't have to but yeah it's a it was a it was a good game a real good game and i got but i did walk away with eight 78 hours on my play clock and 25 percent of the achievement that sounds about right which is you know they fixed that in they changed the

balance of or whatever with yakuza 7 like a dragon because in that game i played it 100 hours and i actually was it i had 900 of a thousand achievement points for once what i like about the game near automata is you can um towards the end of the game you can buy achievements with the in-game currency you can just buy all the achievements you couldn't get more people need to rip that out yeah and i started up rabbits 2 mario rabbits 2 uh the only spark of life yeah the spark of all you're right yes uh and you know i at first thought i wouldn't like that they got rid of the grid but uh for the first few hours i like the feel of it without the grid it actually is it makes it a more active uh less locked down thing you know i love my grids you know i love my grids bob but

i it actually plays pretty well and shockingly because i never ever play app games i never ever ever play card games but my husband showed me the new one marvel snap and i instantly enjoyed it like it is the new marvel card game that is hyper simplistic it is it is an easy to get into uh so it's like a collectible card game a hearthstone uh if you will like one of those yeah yeah with like uh you know it's three zones and it absolutely got me with like, oh, I have Spider-Man now, but I don't have that Spider-Man. Battle Damaged Spider-Man. Exactly. You know, they have a Todd McFarlane variant that I'm chasing right now.

And I paid for the season pass. It's like, you know what? I've had $15 of fun with this game. I'll pay for that. But as for watching, I only saw one movie this month, and that was when I went to see Clerks 3 with a Kevin Smith Q&A afterwards. I'll say this about Clerks 3. I know it's bad. It is actually not a good movie. It's poorly made. But darn it, that guy does have my emotional investment in the world of Clerks enough that he can pull on my heartstrings.

You get me? Because having Jeff Anderson and Brian Halloran on screen again as Dante and Randall, I'm just like, shit, he's the guys. And they're talking about being old and they are old. And I watched some old clips from Clerks 2 where they're saying like man i'm not even in my 20s anymore and then i'm watching this movie like fuck this time just smacks you in the face and and yes it is all about his heart attack we yeah yeah i this is the last time kevin smith gets to make a heart attack movie i swear to god but and it's shot very poorly too but i have enough nostalgia to want to see it uh i won't guarantee that i'll like it check my letterbox later in the year maybe it's better than jay and silent bob reboot which i also saw i can't go near

that i'm sorry clerks three actually has a story to tell it's not just a series of cameos yes yeah though there are there are a series of cameos i'm, I'm sure there are. And there was a Q&A afterwards, and Kevin Smith, honestly, I'm glad because there were... The film might leave you with wanting to ask Kevin Smith questions, and he was able to answer some of those there. But I'm not going to spoil the movie for you. But I will say, if you go to a Kevin Smith Q&A, do not ask him how to become a filmmaker. He has talked about this for 30 fucking years yes and he also became a filmmaker in 1993 yes what basically is someone's asked like oh how do you do a pitch meeting and he's like honestly i've pitched like four times ever i just say like uh i want to make

another movie give me money or don't and then they do or they don't well kevin smith's story is well first harvey weinstein has to see your movie, and then you become famous. He did talk a little about Harvey and how he's sad about that. To be fair, he does give his Weinstein money away at this point. No, and it's funny, too, hearing him talk about how basically he's just like, well, my tip is win the lottery. 30 years ago, not now. And though he did have a funny story that the reason clerks three even got to be made is jane solid bob reboot barely made money in theaters but lions gate had the physical release which they thought wouldn't make a lot of money and it sold crazy well and so they said we'll get if you want to make clerks three we'll give you seven million dollars

right now and he's like shit okay let's do this so uh so yeah clerks three if you have a lot of investment emotionally in the viewsk universe even if you hate his movies now or think they're very bad i'd still say watch it um and andor tv show watched it it's good star wars it's it's what if bob what if star wars was like breaking bad or something you know i kind of just want to rewatch Breaking Bad. But I'm glad that they're doing different stuff. I have no interest in this, but I hear that it is actually good. It is. Not in the way that people wanted Boba Fett to be good or Obi-Wan to be good.

This might actually be good. Yeah, it's full of great actors doing good stuff. And it's filmed in England, so many of the actors have british accents like classic star wars uh though i still i've complained about it before here and i completely understand why you do this in casting but i still feel like the personally i feel like the empire should only be a bunch of evil white dudes because it is a white supremacist organization and when they have a bunch of uh a multicultural collective in the empire i feel it defeats the thematic purpose of the empire i i think the rebellion should be full of uh people uh so many different looking people but the whole

point of the empire is they're fascists they don't want to have a bunch of non-white people around them. That was the whole point of them before. I agree with that, yeah. Yeah, but I finished watching She-Hulk. It was a nice show. It was good. It wasn't great. It was good.

The Daredevil episode's the best episode. And I don't just say that because I got a follow back from the writer of that episode who's a very funny guy, Cody Ziegler. Okay. Was that the same Daredevil that was in one of that new- Charlie Cox, yes. Spider-Man's movies? Yes.

Yeah. He's the Matt Murdock who catches the book that's thrown at Spider-Man. And Bob, in the audience, you're supposed to go, gasp, Daredevil's in this. I thought he just had a Netflix show. He hasn't been gone for that long, has he? Well, see, the gasp is because the Netflix shows weren't recognized by the films, but then they were. And that moment was the Netflix shows being recognized. It became MCU canon.

It was an important moment. That's why you're supposed to gasp and be excited. I watched more episodes of the new Rick and Morty. Also really great, including the episode written by a friend of the show, Heather Ann Campbell. It was a very, very good episode. And also, just the only anime I've watched this month is the new Urusai Atsura. Really great.

Really, really great. It is full of city pop feel and, like, 80s style. It's crazy that they are more directly adapting the comics than the original one did. And the second chapter that they adapt is one about calling a girl on the telephone and fighting over your dad's phone your parents phone which definitely was ripped from the headlines of like 1980 in japanese society but i'm like wait this is sort of characters have smartphones in

this show so why are they fighting over their their giant phone okay i was gonna ask what was a period piece based on the time it's being made now it's period when it wants to be and then it isn't when it isn't uh and and also i love that uh multiple of the original voice actors are back playing like the parents of the characters they used to play which is also fun so new lum new ataru yes yeah every all All the regular voices are new, but like Ataru's dad is played by the former Ataru, who's one of my favorite voice actors. And also my husband and I saw Elton John live in his Farewell Yellow Brick Road tour. I saw a new hoodie. Yes, I did. Where's your Elton John hoodie? Are be wearing it now i just washed it uh but uh yeah it was a nice time uh at

the i ended up seeing it in the same place as chris kohler i didn't realize that until after we came home uh from it was where the 49ers play uh it was it was nice we got to see he uh he's finished his songs and was like yep this is our uh you know our 80 our like 100th show out of 300 of my farewell tour. And then I'll never tour again, which I'll, I mean, he is 75. And unfortunately for him, he's, he mainly has to sit down. So, you know, it's not too hard for him. Can you play the piano laying down? It might come to that.

He had a lot of energy. I give it to Elton. He's still, you know, hearing him sing Tiny Dancer was a lot of fun. No Eldorado songs no no he didn't even play yeah he didn't even play the lion king song oh yeah okay yeah but uh though for simpsons fans during his uh i'm still standing the video was a montage of him appearing in tons of cartoons or just his cameos across his 50 years of his career simpsons was up there so i cheered like simpsons straight to south park and you just go like oh yeah i guess elton john is a

huge part of uh of modern culture yeah like 50 years of pop culture at this point yeah uh but of course the big big news okay we've been talking around it. Now we're into the show. I'll reveal it now, listeners. Big life-changing news for Henry. In the new year, I'm going to be moving to... Seattle! Stop it! You're killing me! Seattle! Yes, Henry, congratulations. Of course, the network is over over now we'll refund all of your money no

no no nothing will be happening yes network wise network wise yes yeah so uh short version is my husband uh just got a new job it is in the seattle area and so uh and he needs to start asap so this month uh while bob was out of town me and my husband actually had another trip planned the to coincide with it that we had to cancel and get all our refunds for because we were then going to have to start going to seattle to plan things my husband uh put in his two weeks and then i scoped out a while i scoped out apartments i flew up to the area uh looked for some apartments we found one it worked out it was a it was a tense uh week or so of apartment hunting uh but so what's going to happen is that he's going to move up next month while i stay here uh in berkeley uh with bob as well he's my husband will get settled in and around the same time we

haven't fully fleshed it out but around the same time bob is going to be moving i will likely then be moving to seattle as well which is better anyway because i'll be a lot close to vancouver seattle pretty close to vancouver and my move has been uh in the works for uh since before covet actually there were there were plans to move up there. COVID happened. I became a permanent resident, et cetera, et cetera. But Henry and I will be living 100 miles apart, a train ride apart, a very quick plane ride apart. It'll be very easy for us to podcast together, but it'll be very easy for us to podcast remotely, too.

So nothing will change in terms of how we're running the network or anything like that. We are just going to be moving and we are preparing in advance for being unavailable to record by working ahead. Yes. Because moving is a pain, especially moving to another state or moving out of the country. Yeah. Moving to another country. Pretty big stuff. Yeah. And so I'm also going to be in the long distance relationship situation for a little bit as well, though. Hopefully a pandemic won't happen in the middle of my long distance relationship and they'll let you into seattle yeah also yeah i don't have a border preventing me from visiting either so now no one no i don't think anyone will say this but people might say seattle good luck with that economy buddy we have to remind people we live in the bay area we are currently playing the dante

must die mode of the economy by moving to Vancouver and Seattle we're bumping it down to very hard yes yeah bumping the difficulty down a little bit it's crazy when they were when I was getting a tour of a couple apartments they're like well now you know it does cost this and I was like I then I told them my rent is on a one bedroom in Berkeley and they're like oh oh well okay then we don't have to give you these warnings she was sipping her coffee just sprayed it all over the floor uh my wonderful leasing agent lori yeah she would never do anything like that uh but yeah i mean the place we're looking at too i i hope works out and we get a two bedroom in it and it's got like basically its own we work in it which is pretty

nice as well so like kind of a workstation which uh it with its own printer so i won't need to buy a printer that's nice yeah we're looking forward to both of us to moving uh having more space to record not necessarily having to uh commute all the time to record uh and you know just being in better places yeah dedicated podcast room as well for all all my things in my living room could just be a living room again that'd be crazy i can finally have my own podcast space which i don't have oh yeah i have to come here to record all the time which i don't mind but it'd be nice to go to a separate room and uh record and then you know move on with my life it's not a man cave it's my recording space recording cavern

but yeah so uh that's the news folks uh You get to hear it first as a patron. I'll mention it on Twitter, too. But yes, my husband is moving to Seattle first. I'm going to help him with the move up for one weekend. But then pretty much I'm going to be in Berkeley. Me and Bob are going to be smashing out those podcasts hardcore. And then some point, probably, I would definitely think in the first half of next year,'ll be moving to seattle as well so that's uh that's in the plans now but nothing hopefully you listeners won't even notice the difference uh on the podcast uh if me and bob are doing our jobs right yeah i think so and uh i guess one thing i forgot to mention is i think i brought it up but i was at

portland retro gaming expo oh yeah yeah and that was a lot of fun. And thank you for coming to my panel. I will say, this is me being candid, I went to PAX and I did a panel. And PAX was a lot of money because they don't pay for a room for you. They don't pay for your travel. I think they should. They're very big.

And when I did my panel, there were maybe like 20 to 30 people in the room. And I was like, oh, I know they had fun, but I thought there'd be more people. Does anyone care anymore? When I did my panel at Portlandland the entire room was full oh that's awesome and portland did pay for my lodging so thank you man yes boy at portland it was also funny that yeah you you were in port you flew to portland like the same day i flew to seattle i was like oh we're both headed up to the pacific northwest today both are nice cities and i will say i'm not a collector of

games although i I do try to buy the things I want to play while they're still cheap. And I will say I've been doing this for the past decade, so it's going to change soon, but at the moment, DS and 3DS games are still relatively reasonably priced. Okay, so this is like your insider trading kind of tip.

Yes. I'm an outsider to this world, but yes. Retro games are too expensive in the way that like you see a shrink wrap Mario Kart 64 that's $30,000. You're like, there's no way this is worth that much money. But I do think, you know, time is going on. These pieces of plastic were not made to last forever. So it does make sense.

Yes, the Super Nintendo was 30 years ago. A 30 year old piece of plastic meant to entertain an eight year old for like a few months. That's going to be a lot of money now. so I don't complain about the prices that much but for things like this is a sealed and graded Mario 64 for a million dollars that I complain about but I kind of understand why things are getting more expensive I think we don't want to admit that because we're getting old you're like no the N64 was just 20 years ago oh my god yeah or I remember like no I just went to GameStop the other day, and it was like five bucks

for a Genesis game. And then you realize like, you know, you went to GameStop in 2005, and it was that cheap. And that was a long time ago now. Yeah. Time sucks, man. It's no fun. So I bought Star Fox Command. I bought Final Fantasy Tactics A2.

And I bought Phantom Hourglass. Wow, man. All for like $40 or under. That's pretty good. Yeah, each, each, by the way. That's good. You know, the last time I interacted with my 3DS was to just buy games on the shop. Because I was like, well is i better just buy dragon

quest 8 i bet i wish i did in the future oh yeah that's all that's also worth a lot of money physically and it's something i've never even opened is dragon quest 8 i guess my physical aid is probably over there with my other 3ds a lot of the latter 3ds games are worth a ton of money because they weren't printed in great quantity so they're worth like dragon quest yeah i saw a box copy of that for $200. So, yes. So if you're moving,

you might want to have a fire sale. That's true. And you can sell things directly to people on discord. Oh boy. I really like that. Henry's having a savings event. You know, yeah,

man. No, I've thought about that before, like selling stuff on eBay or stuff. I got, it's like giving yourself another job as well. But there would be ways to throw some of this stuff away or give it to half-priced books for a nickel. We're privileged enough, if you have a Twitter following or a Discord where people know who you are, sell it to them.

Just say, hey, I'm selling these things. Here's my PayPal. First come, first serve. There's your business tip. Get yourself a dedicated group of fans and they'll sell to them on a discord yes uh step number one is the most important let's move on to questions and comments for this recent round of episodes the first episode is the lastest gun in the west and brian benelli says a slight correction wyatt erp meets the mummy is most

likely a reference to an infamously bad and really cheap film called Billy the Kid vs. Dracula. Star John Carradine would later go on to say, I have worked in a dozen of the greatest and I have worked in a dozen of the worst. I only regret Billy the Kid vs. Dracula. Otherwise, I regret nothing. Wow. And this is Bob speaking. He probably forgot about Red Zone Cuba.

I mean, he's not even really in that movie. No. He probably, Coleman Francis probably told him like, you know, we're filming another movie and just like, all the way to hell. Like there. Yeah. With a penny and a broken cigarette. That's right.

You got to do the whole line, Henry. I'm sorry. And then he sings Night Train to Mundo Fiende. That's true. So you know what? He knew what he was in. Night Train. God love it. Red Zone Cuba, one of the he was in. Night Train. God, love it.

Red Zone Cuba, one of the all-time best. Although not- Edited correctly as well. Yes. Not for first-time Mistys. No, no. It's a slog. If you're not used to that form of comedy, it's like a gray movie where nothing happens,

but the jokes are very funny. It is like the escargot of MST3K. You don't want to start a person off with that for the series yeah but i know nothing about the this movie no me neither i know that uh based on riff tracks movies when john carradine was in his last years they would just like wheel him onto the set of a horror movie and he'd be in it like remotely for about five minutes boy it's you know with bruce willis today they eventually call it elder abuse and they stopped doing that but for john carradine back then no such protections or societal norms keeping him safe there also on the episode ron sterling says all right i know you said no cast iron talk but i gotta dispel the myth they're really not that fussy you can wash them with soap and water you

don't have to re-season them constantly just rub them down with vegetable oil after cleaning as for scrubbing i've got one word for you guys just one word deglazing uh also too complicated i don't like having to feed the pan after i've done cleaning it uh feed the pan not feed me feed the pan uh yeah by the way i've been showing my husband mr show for the first time and we're we i was like all right we gotta start with season one and i tell him like look there's three good sketches in season one season one people don't talk about don't start with season one that's my advice to all of you out there there's no chronology it's like it it's pretty rough there's too much ronnie dobbs and it's a lot of it's really tied to events of the time

yeah yeah that they're so and most of the good cast isn't there yet like even well he's not look we all know jay johnston not good now but when he appears for his one scene in season one i was like god where's this fucking guy the rest of the time he's so funny back then in the 90s his his new comedy character is not so funny these days no no i assume it's a character but yeah the super pan sketch yes yeah but uh but my husband was like no let's start from the beginning let's do it for right and i'm like okay but it's not gonna be good uh but anyway look ron i trust you but i hear this from every like look it's not that hard you just gotta do this and you do this and then of course you gotta do this like i like washing my instant pot with soap and water and calling it a day uh and also again my my arms are too weak for a big heavy pan no i they are

heavy yeah they are real heavy pans yeah i'll tell you what what's not moving in seattle that cast iron pan i haven't used at all uh that's uh that's gonna be given away i think melt it down give it to the city they can make a statue out of it. Did you buy a cast iron pan? I bought one during the pandemic. I was like, you know what? I'm going to be one of these cast iron pan people. I haven't,

I used it once. I was like, God, this is fucking heavy. And now I gotta, I gotta put more oil on it. Forget this. We all just need bigger sinks or a kitchen Island.

Perhaps, you know, it's one of those plans you have during a pandemic. You're like, Oh, you know what? I'll be a cast iron pan guy. I'll make pancakes in here.

And it's not worth it. I became slightly a Lego guy during a pandemic. But I only built one set. Hey, that's more than you built before the pandemic. That's true. Moving on to I Married Marge. Alex McG says, hearing Lisa suggest naming the new girl Ariel reminded me of my own family and how my sister

was named after a cartoon character while I was named after my mom's two grandfathers first and middle name my sister was given the name Ariel by my father however she was born the year before Disney's a little mermaid premiered my dad actually got the name from princess Ariel of Thundar the barbarian whoa yeah that's uhlex that's amazing and now you're why aren't you thundar mcg yeah i guess you know the grandparents got their shout out instead of thundar or ukla the mock uh but yeah that's pretty great that it's not she's walking around school every kid thinks she's named after the disney movie and it's like no no thundar the barbarian the incredibly forgotten thing uh that was one of my that was one of the most fun weird ones we ever did

there was a lot of screaming in that show yes yeah especially of ukla because it's fred flintstone going like especially when he's like tired he goes and And he's just a big furry monster? I mean, he's Chewbacca. Okay, I thought so. He's a big Chewbacca ripoff, yeah. It's basically like, what if Conan had a lightsaber and hung out with Chewbacca? And it was the future. And yes, but like the Planet of the Apes future. The bad future, yeah.

Hey, check out our water cartoon about that. Also, when I married Marge, Kat Hayberg says, My husband and I have some practical, yes, let's get married at some point discussions. And I told him I would only say yes if he proposed with an onion ring, mostly just reiterate that I didn't want an engagement ring. I always thought he'd arranged to do it at the Simpsons trivia show we use to attend monthly Stonecutters LA, but the pandemic happened and IRL trivia events stopped happening. And I forgot about it that year for my birthday we went hiking in Topanga Canyon because it was August 2020 and there was nothing else to do then in one of the world's least likely places to find an onion ring

the top of a mountain in a part of LA where there's basically nothing open ever regardless of pandemic he proposed with a felt onion ring he ordered from Etsy. That's sweet. He should have added burning oil to it before you put it on your finger. He should have at least made it very hot to hurt you. Yes. Yeah. It's part of the experience.

But that's so sweet. And sadly, like, yes, a Simpsons trivia night is a perfect place to be proposed to with an onion ring. But unfortunately, the pandemic got in the way of of so many plans just like that one but i can't remember onion ring that's so cute that's very sweet uh i appreciate the little touch of uh making your own ring out of felt yes yeah or sorry sorry having one get made for you uh still still very sweet i forgot if i mentioned that we went to simpsons trivia and we won oh yes you did do that and i don't think i have heard it on a talk to the audience okay well thatvia and we won? Oh yes, you did do that and I don't think I've heard it on a talk to the audience.

Okay, well that happened and we won first place. You ringers took it again. First prize, first prize. That's so great. Yeah, you know what? I don't think we ever won before. Okay. No, wait, we won the last time. Yeah, that's what I thought. Before that, we lost like a billion times in a row and we only

won by one point. Wow, it was a squeaker, man. I don't think I we only won by one point wow it was a squeaker man i don't think i talked about it because uh one of the answers was wrong oh oh really and we had to be we had to become the like trivia like pet pedants basically because it was the name of um the proprietor of the springfield antiquarian society and i know his name is hollis hurlbutt but it was spelled incorrectly as the answer and i was just having like a panic attack it's like no I know his name uh and then we're like going over the answers I'm like I'm googling it like showing the trivia people and I think they're just kind of like all right calm down yeah like we gotta move on this is really just a we're hoping you guys buy mozzarella sticks

yeah an expensive cocktail I don't think spelling mattered but I wanted them to know if you're gonna run a trivia show you have to know the name of hollis hurlbutt both names are actually dormitories at harvard by the way oh wow that's what i just named after well i did not know yes sorry sorry to interrupt this but yeah i don't think i ever talked about it maybe it happened while i was still there i don't remember uh while i was before talk to the audience oh you did record the talk to the audience while you were in vancouver yeah yeah i think it might have i think we might've even recorded the day you did it or maybe like the day or two before. Yeah, it was, yeah.

So that happened. Okay, sorry. Moving on everybody to the old man in the key and all the trophy says, well, first they begin their statement by talking about having grown up, visiting Branson on vacation as a child. They were nearby Branson.

I cut out that part of the comment, but I included the next part which says of course most of this was through the lens of a child and it's much easier now for me to see its outside image and how it's steeped not just a certain musty nostalgia but also an attempt to embody the south itself multiple times he went to the stampede

Henry mentions which at the time was called Dolly Parton's Dixie Stampede and for those unfamiliar it was basically medieval times but for the Civil War obviously the name has changed to distance itself from that image though I'm not aware whether or not the north versus south aspect of production has changed at all man to get to be like well you're seated in the south side so you'd have to root for slavery to continue that's also funny that that's in like uh again Branson Missouri which is you know it was a uh important part of slavery or not they being a free state or not being a free state uh back

then so why that it is the staging ground for a Dixie Stampede which I believe it was in another comment that mentioned that um Dolly parton herself in like i think 2018 chose to take dixie out of it and made it now dolly parton's stampede uh no use the word dixie but i did not realize it was medieval times for the civil war so it's just like you're eating a civil war meal while a battle is happening in front of you or something you know i bet you it's still like something they wouldn't eat it like actual like hard fried uh yeah chicken fried steak or whatever and uh you better get some biscuits with that that's like i'm sure they have these uh jack daniel's chicken wings during the civil war in general the a lot of the stories of people who went to branson remind me of like oh

yeah i like this as an innocent child who grew up in the south or it feels quaintly nostalgic to you and then when you go there as an adult you're like was everybody always this racist oh they were i just didn't know that as a little kid this this sucks now that's uh and and let alone visiting with your husband i don't plan on doing that in my future no there will be no talking simpsons branson show uh joe hodgson also says on the episode, The XFL was Vince McMahon at the height of his hubris. He thought he could take what worked for him on Raw's War and apply it to football and take over the sport.

Boy, was he ever wrong. The product was terrible, but my friends and I did watch it, knowing it was terrible as sort of a running joke. We arbitrarily picked a favorite team since there was no local one to New Hampshire and basically acted like we lived and died with the sport because I guess we had nothing better to do. I have no direct memories of the games, and my strongest is just one of my friends, who chose the Demons,

creating his own fight song that was just him grunting, priests can't stop the demons over and over i have absolutely zero confidence in another version of xfl actually working hey third time's the charm for starting a football league i guess it'll be the first one without vince mcmahon involved in it so maybe that and i don't think the rock will be as obsessed about it being the anti-woke uh football league that vince mcmahon made uh in 2020 yeah it was entirely about so i said on the episode but it was mainly started as an attack on colin capernick no one's gonna kneel here uh here's here's an extra funny detail for the xfl second generation that didn't uh that came up through a lawsuit because basically he tried

to fire a coach who said you can't fire me you owe me 20 million dollars when he was on the stand vincent again was asked about how one of his rules was he wouldn't hire anybody who had a previous criminal conviction like a a criminal history and they asked him hey weren't you like tried for uh steroid crimes in the 90s and he's like and i was found innocent he's like but would you get to play and they kept asking like but you couldn't play for your own league could you and he's like he really didn't want to admit it but eventually he was forced to admit yes fine i couldn't play for my own league you got me but then he was still very rich after that quite rich yes yeah even i mean he just got revealed to be a big old sex criminal yeah yeah within the past couple months i think yes yeah which uh if you're a wrestling super fan you probably knew it already

but it hit the wall street journal and that's when you don't get to stay employed at a company at least for a year i still wouldn't be surprised if at 79 he comes back to his old job i think by making himself a character he's just insinuated himself too much into the world of wwe right yeah yeah i think uh it's crazy look i could go this could be a five-hour podcast if i talked about finn moving on to what a cartoon movie comments for beavis and butthead do the universe and alex irish says i watched this yesterday evening for the podcast and it was really funny i then watched the spongebob movie sponge on the run right after that it gave me almost no laughs and is the worst spongebob movie of the three despite the cg animation being a spectacular translation of

the original 2d art it felt like the characters were just going through the motions conversely beavis and butthead has less spectacular animation but feels fresh and true to the voice of the characters i'm guaranteed they made me laugh long and hard and yeah the new iteration is so great i mean we don't need to talk about it anymore but god the new show is so funny and i still have to watch the last two of this season yeah i haven't finished the season yet either maybe i'll watch them on the plane uh but yeah i i love this new season a ton and that's a great comparison to the spongebob movie because uh you know i haven't heard how good or not that camp spongebob thing is but the spongebob babies the patrick show i've seen uh casey green talk

that up on twitter okay so maybe that's the good one maybe that's where the good work is happening but that's funny to hear about that movie too because i like to imagine that alex watched it on paramount plus right after finishing uh do the universe he's like oh you know as long as i'm on paramount plus i'll watch the spongebob movie number three played next i will say about that patrick star show uh bob camp worked on it too oh really yeah i'm his friend on facebook and he tweeted about or Facebooked about it and said they treated me so well on that show I recommend it apparently they treat their workers well on the Patrick Starr show whatever it's called

Patrick's house I don't know I guess you know Spongebob does have a lot of Ren and Stimpy DNA and some long time guys there yeah yeah yeah also on the Do The Universe movie Pumpkin Bob says glad to have an excuse to revisit this movie so soon it was better than i expected honestly and i really love mike judge stuff while we're

on the topic of mike judge stuff you guys reference tales from the tour bus as the mike judge country show at the start of the episode while this isn't exactly false it is only half true season one of that show was country and season two was all funk unfortunately there wasn't a season three and we never got to see what genre he would tackle next so yeah it's another on my list honestly mike judge is too prolific of shows that are good yeah he's i i i probably will watch tales from the tour bus before i watch uh silicon valley i think yeah yeah one one features tj miller and one doesn't maybe he is on that show i try i try We'll watch Tales from the Chorbus before I watch Silicon Valley, I think. Yeah, yeah. One features T.J. Miller and one doesn't.

Maybe he is on that show. I tried looking this up. Like, how do I watch this? It's one of those tricks where you just type in show blah, blah, blah streaming and you click, you know, Google. And then it shows you like it's streaming on Hulu. And you're like, OK, cool. You click on Hulu and it's like you need the Showtime add-on. In this case, it's a Cinemax show.

Cinemax, man. Who is subscribing to Cinemax in this day and age? Yeah, I guess. I guess, do you even get the soft core porn if you sign up for it now? Have they stripped that away? Do you need it in this internet world of ours? I'm just saying, like, it would be a value add. If they didn't have that, it's like, then why am I even signing up for Cinemax?

I don't know if Emmanuel is on it. but uh emmanuel in space it's the next generation all the red shoe diaries but yeah it's a cinemax show okay i think you can buy it a la carte somewhere else but i i'm always annoyed when you search something that's streaming and it's like you need to subscribe to showtime or cinemax or like not discovery but something else like there i didn't know there were all of these like separate platforms that yeah exist outside ofulu, but they connect to Hulu. All these upcharges, yeah. You know, I had a similar thing, actually, with Paramount+. I forget the movie, but I was looking up a movie,

and I was like, oh, okay, we're doing the thing we all have to fucking do now of Googling movie name streaming. And yeah, it took me to a page like oh it's on paramount plus because paramount plus does just have straight up movies on there but then i clicked on it on my phone it opened up the paramount plus app and it said like it was a manual of like three steps on how to upgrade your account to watch showtime stuff on here because they can't even do it in the fucking app because then they'd have to give Apple or yeah they have to give Apple money so then I have to

go to a website on my just black why is it so complicated yeah I know it sucks man yeah does Netflix even still send out blu-rays if I wanted to try to do that I think they do I think there's still a service that does that okay yeah I don't know if I would do

that you know they just up their fucking price on that too i tell you and disney plus raised their prices oh and youtube premium yeah family plan just went up five bucks i don't know why they're all raising at the same time uh because they got us by the balls man no one is having worse problems than us by the way yes yeah uh let's move on uh so there were no uh comments for tengan tapa garan lagan the episode of what a cartoon outside of like people excited that we were doing it so i'm not including any but thanks again to devin for the great pick i enjoyed watching the entire series again and i think the episode came out really well hell yeah uh moving on to the 30 iron chef the talking futurama episode

nina matsumoto has a bunch of thoughts as she writes about the episode and i broke this down the bullet points i think she did actually horse sashimi or basashi is delicious but i understand if others are turned off by the idea it's definitely more accepted in japan uh number two uh yellow bell peppers have a mild sweetness and i enjoy them raw along with red and orange number three in japan it used to be that red and yellow and orange bell peppers were not commonly found in stores. But the Iron Chef opening helped make them more mainstream and stores began stocking them as a result. Number four. Yes, L.A. is pronounced L.A. The E-Z is always pronounced A-Y in French like in Chez and Voulez-Vous.

And don't pronounce the Z at the end of Vou unless the next word starts with a vowel. All right. I fucked up there. That's on me. Number five, I believe. If my memory serves me correctly, both the chef and challenger are shown a small list of possible items before the competition so that they have some idea of what might come. But the final ingredient choice is a surprise item to them when it's revealed.

Number six, Iron Chef Italian, the youngest of the chefs, sadly died in 2019 at the age of 49 from a fatal fall in one of his restaurants. I think we're on seven now. I've lost track. The next one. In the show's fictional lore, the new chairman is Chairman Kaga's nephew. And the last one is Kaga was Game Center CX's first pick to host the show, but his agent turned them down. And I think choosing Arno was a better one.

I don't think Kaga would have stayed with the show for 20 years. No way. Oh, man. He wouldn't fly to America to film it yeah he's I mean he already stopped being the chairman after like five years which is a perfectly normal amount of time for a major actor to give to a reality show but uh you know the only I thank Nina for all of that information I'm sad to learn about the Iron Chef Italy uh but that or. But yes, you know that I'll amend what I said. The thing I heard about

how they refilm stuff or all that, that wasn't a tell-all article about Iron Chef America. Okay, okay. That it sounds like it was more reality showy and fake. At least the judgments are real, but it's just like, okay, they finished

cooking a dish, but this isn't the dish they're going to serve to people like they they're going to cook it again so it's fresh for the judgment so but that was a ton of great info uh that that it was spreading the love of bell peppers to the japanese society they are delicious i'm glad they found out about them no opinion on horse meat mara the demon says spargle is wolfgang puck his restaurant is spago and dave herman's voice is totally an impression of him and bob had also another reference here oh yeah other point people in the comments pointed out that spargel is german for asparagus and spargel sounds like spago uh so people are pointing that out but yes we just did the episode where he was like i like your ice crispy treats that's right and he sounds just like that and uh i'm good friends with james l brooks and that's how you get to be on the show

be a celebrity chef who's good and he goes like to the puck mobile or something i forget right right with the pizza on it which seemed random until we learned that like no pizza was how he got famous it's a salmon pizza i wanted smoked salmon pizza don't knock it folks fish is good on pizza i better have vancouver smoked that's shipped without any packaging on it. Now you'll be closer than ever to smoked salmon. Oh, boy. Yeah, I can't wait. You just dip your hand in the ocean.

Comes out pre-smoked. We got to hurry up through these last ones, folks, because we're recording something else really soon. So, Talking of the Hill, Peggy's Turtle Song is up next. First of all, lots of ADHD chat on the comments in the discord i'm happy that people were not upset by anything we said because on brother's little helper we didn't do a lot of research i don't think we said anything that we thought was definitive but now that we have more time to record stuff um we were able to look more into it and i'm glad people were happy with what we said but lots of people's experiences about with adhd uh you can see those all on the uh the

patreon comics and on the discord so thank you for sharing yes and i'm glad we didn't make anyone mad yeah uh but andrew diacetti says the fact of the matter is that despite being an incredibly common disorder adhd is still extremely under diagnosed because of the stigma being carried over from the 90s and it remains the most common diagnosis for people in the prison system most of whom do not discover that they have it until they're already incarcerated. Effectively, ADHD and some other related disorders have really set people up to fail, and an unspoken part of that history is that before it was ADHD, it was just a criminal personality like sociopathy, and that's how it was treated. And a lot of that remains in the

modern day, despite what people tell you. We can talk all day about how things get better in terms of words, but the fact remains that a lot of us get shipped off to prison and never had a chance i've had many encounters with police myself that could have gone badly and if i wasn't white passing they probably would have so thank you andrew uh that was just one of set like a dozen comments i chose about adhd and i read them all i really enjoyed reading about your experiences yes there there were so many great ones man that's just so depressingly american that like well the answer is put him in jail. Yeah. Yeah, jail will deal with it.

Put him in a box. Problem solved. Such a cruel and punitive system we have. And I'm talking like I just listened to them say that on an episode of Citations Needed. And I did. That's what I'm bringing up from. And finally, Drew Mackey said on the episode, I had never heard every good boy deserves fudge my piano teacher gave it to me as every good boy does fine which is worse because fudge is inherently funny but thinking about this

i also remember that the mnemonic device i learned from bass for the bass clef was girls buy dolls from america and i am just now realizing how sexist that is boys do well girls just buy dolls boys buy dolls but they're from like japan yes well they're action figures yeah but i had never heard of well i mean you know that the one mnemonic is much more common than a bass clef mnemonic for people who don't play the bass i i never heard of girls buy dolls from america why america i don't know i yeah i knew i i was also every good boy does fine but i don't know what the gbda uh mnemonic device was in my music schooling but the word fudge is just such a funny word i mean that's why it was outlawed the word in my catholic school oh right yeah that makes sense before the jokes

you're making uh but thank you drew for the uh the insight into the the another of america's many sexist things just uh that's all part of the air supply part of the language yes yeah but thanks for joining us folks uh just to wrap up here again uh what a cartoon movie is changing no more polls except for two months out of the year we are also launching a blab about batman the animated series a new season of that launches on november 11th and i believe that's the biggest news but yeah nothing is changing in terms of how the podcasts are rolling out even though henry is going to be moving soon and i'll be moving soon so don't worry about that and we've worked pretty far ahead so we're prepared for any big changes to come but that is basically it am i covering everything here yeah

yeah oh and i guess you know the next movie is Paranorman, and the movie after that is going to be Tokyo Godfathers, just if you want to pre-watch stuff to get ready. And yes, thanks for joining us, folks. We'll see you again for another episode of Talk to the Audience. See you later. wow infotainment