Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - September 2021

Episode Date: October 6, 2021

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I heartily endorse this event or product. me today hey it's Henry Gilbert and I am still not exclusive to Disney platforms yet but you never know and this is our monthly community podcast that comes at the end of the month if you're on patreon the beginning of the month you're on the free feed and in this podcast we go over what's happening in the world of the Simpsons what's happening in our world and then we respond to questions and comments from our listeners from the past month's worth of episodes yeah it is our most ripped from the headline thing instead of living in the year 2001 or 1991 we're living in like a day before this post or sometimes even the same day instead of months before which is what the case for normal episodes usually is yes yeah now when you listen to this and we say like hey this person's

still alive you know it's true we're not just hoping that they're still alive unless they see our podcast post and then jump out a window but that's not on us you know yeah i forget i there definitely been some within 24 hours we've been proven wrong uh type things that happen not usually a death but uh hopefully in this case that won't happen but yeah and yes yesterday as of this recording was the premiere of simpson season. And it was a reunion of a show I've never seen before. Not for me, but I heard it's good. Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. And it was a Selman Run episode. I think Selman is devoted to screwing with the canon.

Oh, yeah. Because it was another one where the premise is, of course Marge and Homer were in high school in the late 90s or perhaps early 2000s. Yes. And that is what this episode is predicated upon. You know, I think Sel is uh falling into the drill trap of keep uh telling me you hate the changing timeline it'll only get worse yes yes uh the yeah i guess the so the writer of the episode worked on crazy ex-girlfriend was an executive producer of it and the songwriter of the songs was a crazy ex-girlfriend

songwriter as well so and the songs i thought were good i'm not into uh i guess modern musicals meaning like 25 years ago in the case of rent but i recognize a few of the parodies i've never seen wicked or uh yeah i'm not not familiar with that but i knew because march was literally green in one of the songs it was a wicked parody and one was it was one of chicago parody oh yeah no okay yeah her chicago man you bob chicago will put you in horny jail i i just saw it uh over the summer for the first time that's right yes and i just broke out of horny jail uh no on parole yeah in the in the song about how she's a big star on broadway how sasha is a star she just does like the sit in the chair and move her head. Like dancing around the chair is the Chicago dance.

Right, right. And I have some issues with how this episode was promoted because I don't know whose fault this was. I'm saying fault. But they said the first all musical episode. And I assumed, oh, is it going to be like an opera in which everyone is singing? There's no spoken dialogue. No. To date, to my knowledge, there's probably everyone is singing? There's no spoken dialogue. No. To date, to my knowledge, there's probably been more,

but there's at least two episodes that did this. There's All Singing, All Dancing, and also The President Wore Pearls, which was an Evita parody. Yeah, yeah. Where it had like four or five songs throughout. So this, whatever promotions department person was in charge of this, they're liars

and they want them fired. I would say this episode has only 10% more singing than Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious that one too yeah sorry how did i forget the one the one main one that we're all familiar with no i mean yes it's the pr team that says like oh well if you can promote that a simpsons has a first anything at this point in season 33 that gets you headlines but yeah i mean when they called it the first all musical episode i was expecting then every line of dialogue in the episode is sung and that is not the case that it not i like the music in it though it definitely uh it feels like crazy i i did see crazy ex-girlfriend and there i like the songs and dance numbers in it uh and

i think that style of humor fits well enough with the simpsons but it doesn't feel exactly like a simpson song like i'm not exactly like how jeff martin wrote a classic simpson song like like streetcar which that really is like a full musical act of simpsons not a full musical episode but yeah the i i actually did really like the episode by uh of course on the grading on a scale of Simpsons current day. But I really like there were good songs, well sung. And it also came from like a real place of being the nerdiest among the nerds. Oh, your stage friends actually got drunk and fucked around while you were the dork of the dorks in the state as the stage

manager they had a party at your house yes yeah yeah i went into this episode with a chip on my shoulder i thought i wouldn't like it but i was delighted as i was folding laundry the uh i actually legitimately laughed out loud when homer says to marge like i think this is the kind of thing that makes people not invite you to stuff. So I was like, oh, yeah. Well, because that also really spoke to me as like, oh, yeah. In the past, when I was mad, people didn't invite me to things. I then was very pissy about it. And I look back and I'm like, oh, that's probably why they don't want me to come to parties.

It made me reflect on my life and think they were right. Yeah. You know what? I was the dork. They shouldn't have invited me. But and yeah the songs the songs are great the the dance choreography animation was really good too yeah i saw i saw rough draft uh did this one uh and i don't know if they do all of them but uh i

was i was impressed i mean for the specific movements and everything they needed to count on rough draft for this kind of thing like i'm glad and and yeah variety had a whole like article on it that had some interesting facts like how they produced it pretty much all post-lockdown, which sounds like a huge pain in the ass to do with a musical where everybody has to sing at the same time. But okay, yes, I guess I am still getting used to the idea that Marge and Homer are my age. And soon they won't even be my age. I'll be older than them. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're already older than Marge and uh we're both Homer's age yeah I'll be older than Homer sooner than you and I graduated right before right after Y2K like I

graduated in 2001 uh May 2001 I believe you're a class of 2000 baby and uh that's that's how american school system works me and bob's birthdays are four months apart but i am a year later than him too young for kinder garden in 1988 i take it uh yes yeah but but so uh having them sing songs about y2k and the like they the accuracy of the late 90s party characters versions of like kirk van houten or helen yeah i was like oh yeah that's kirk van houten basically dressed like me in 1999 or whenever this took place they didn't give a year out i assume it's pre-y2k well if they're singing a song about y2k then i would assume they did it in 99 or 98 and yeah i think uh and yeah also though they we just did a podcast recording of one where homer in a flashback is bullying smithers in high school and he looks nothing

like the smithers and it's also the 70s yeah it's also because he's singing kung fu fighting so yeah you just i i guess it's happened enough now that i'm not as mad as i used to be and though of course them doing a joke that barge was in high school as they were worried about y2k when the show was almost 10 years old when they did their y2k treehouse of horrors you know makes you feel old don't think i wasn't talking i wasn't thinking about that yes yeah so yeah that season 33 has begun and let's talk about season 32 so long ago but it's now on dis on Disney+, meaning Disney Plus now has 706 episodes on display for you to watch, except for one of them that never happened.

That's right, yeah. But they make up for that with all the shorts they have on there, and there's going to be another one. Oh, well, that's getting ahead of ourselves. You know, I'd rather see the Michael Jackson episode than some of their shorts. Less disturbing. So let's talk about more news uh the fox tv president is very non-committal on the simpsons and bobs burgers and family guy staying on the network past the current revival so disney is snatching back everything they own it sounds like so well i

like this is so complicated for me uh what's the deal disney owns fox does this he on fox television or is fox television a separate entity that is a separate entity because of america's very weak monopoly laws but they do exist technically disney can't own abc and fox television broadcasting right okay they spun that off into its own company that exists separate from disney meaning disney is licensing the old fox content that it did buy to fox television interesting and yeah this uh like previously there was an interview saying the president was saying uh yeah these shows will be on the air forever and ever no end in sight but now it seems like uh he can't really say anything like that anymore so yeah now he's just like oh and a couple yeah we got him for two years we're uh you know we're really great partners for right now and and the deadline piece also had an uh you know bringing

up that seth mcfarlane who already signed a a deal with comcast a new deal with comcast not fox for more stuff that mcfarlane you know has been talking more about how like oh yeah i don't like being on the same network as techo carlson like that sucks and so uh things don't i mean there's also like two other bits of disney related news that make me go like oh the things this it won't be an overnight change but this is the slow change of the simpsons going away from fox television for sure yeah like family guy is being taken off Adult Swim. It's gone. It was, right? Yes. Okay. And they made a very cute promo about it because Family Guy and Futurama both picked up before 2003 to air on Cartoon Network.

They both made Adult Swim a big deal. Oh, yeah. And then Adult Swim, in turn, got them renewed. I know. It really was like a change in television when that happened. And Adult Swim and Family Guy were both improved for it. It's such a huge thing for them to lose Family Guy. Adult Swim lost Futurama a long time ago to Comedy Central.

Yeah, that's true. Because it was like, in the case of Family Guy, Adult Swim would get the rights to the new episodes. But then Comedy Central outbid Adult Swim to get the new Futuramas. but then comedy central like outbid adult swim to get the new futuramas so then it was uh just family guy but it'd been there for so long i they still have american dad because it's a tbs production and it's still but who knows how long until disney takes that back it really brought me back because that is now 18 years ago and i was in college and i was very cool and 21 years old and like any cool guy from that era i made hating family guy part of my personality oh yeah that makes you very likable when you want to talk to people and i was like i hate this fucking show but i'm gonna watch

it every night i can't not watch it i'll tune in every night to adult swim and just like see that you're in my bed late at night yeah now and now the it's it's gone away and they did that the yeah the little video of them all all the adult swim original characters waving goodbye to the family including some that were canceled themselves yes that's true yeah so yes goodbye to family guy on adult swim taking it back they're making it so family guy you can only watch it on hulu in the united states yeah they've got that special package uh overseas where a family guy can sneak on disney plus it's allowed to be dirty uh disney plus can be dirty outside of america apparently but not not in the united states and also simpsons episodes will not be

on city tv in canada anymore only on disney plus yes yeah the first run you apparently even last night with that season 33 premiere you weren't watching it on City TV in Canada, which I only know the logo of it because if somebody were to upload clips of, say, community or scrubs onto YouTube, usually it was taken off of City TV, and I just see the City TV bug in the corner of it. But yeah, I think it's been on that channel for a very long time, Losing the Simpsons. For Canadians, that's like the family guy leaving Adult Swim kind of thing. That's like Duckman leaving Teletoon. Yeah. Or Clone High.

Yeah, yeah. I'm joking, of course. But yeah, all these things are changing. Disney, like if you have Disney Plus in Canada, that's where the first run episodes will be. I feel like i'm pointing at a chart here uh if you have uh if you're in america the united states of america and you have because you know canada's in america bob i don't know if you know that north america sorry but if you're in the united states of america the new simpsons episodes are on your

hulu subscription if you are in canada and i believe many other territories first run simpsons episodes appear on disney plus and that's where you'll watch season 33 streaming and then of course a year from now when season 34 of the simpsons debuts assumedly season 33 will move to disney plus in the united states as well and we have emmy news so the simpsons lost uh they have plenty of emmy so don't worry about them you know what and then Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal won I will say Genndy Tartakovsky he's been around for a long time but this is a new show and it's kind of nice to see a new show win over things Emmy voters just know a 20 year old show a 10 year old show and a 30 year old show

running against a show that's just new yeah I haven't seen primal it looks cool i love gendy i wish he would do more comedy like he did in the past but i'm always for whatever he's doing next i guess you know if i'm gendy i'm thinking like everything is a comedy that looks like you know rick and morty or the simpsons so i may as well do a violent thing even alex hearse's new show yeah is a ricksburgers let's talk about inside job for just a second that and that first trailer looked fun i'll i'll watch it yeah shintake uchi i'm glad she's you know that's why it is now it's her show but it really is shintake uchi show but uh when i saw it i uh i was shocked how much it looked like rick and morty i thought yeah and and i don't blame the creators on the show.

I really do think it's in the boardroom that they're just like, well, hey, well, this doesn't look like a cartoon. Well, it should look like Rick and Morty, you know, and that's just we get approved or whatever. But I still looking forward to it. Yeah. Yeah. He's been without a cartoon for almost a decade now, seemingly. No. And she wrote some of my favorite

episodes of disenchantment so i wish her i wish takuchi well and another viral video snuck out onto the internet in which colonel homer and spider pig no one calls him harry plopper that's his name yeah introduced people to the grand old opry and they had a historic amount of performances uh this is cute it's about eight seconds long i feel like they they woke up david silverman at three in the morning and said get colonel homer on stage have him say something about the grand old opry and make it quick and they did and in case you don't know what the grand old opry was or is it's like a performance space in which uh legendary characters like mini pearl originated ask ask your grandmother or ask me. I can't hear the name Minnie Pearl without thinking of my wedding day. Because when you were there, you were my witness along with my mom and stepdad.

And my husband and I had bought top hats that we planned on returning. So we kept the tags on them and just kind of hid them. And my stepfather said, oh, you guys look like Minnie Pearl. And then said, you guys look like mini pearl and then said uh you guys never heard of that and you bob were just like no no no i know exactly i've heard at least 13 mini pearl references on mystery science theater sir i've uh yeah i actually have the clip right here this is the 4994th. Now let's hear that fiddle. That's it.

Yep, there it is. And also, Harry Plopper has a mini pearl hat on with the tag still on it, so just to make it extra clear. Yes, it's good to see Colonel Homer back. Yeah, again, I feel if he gave David Silverman a lot of time, like a good time and a good budget, he really would make that Oscar-winning thing that they want so bad,

but they just don't give him the time. Yeah, he needs time, he needs money. Let him work. Speaking of things that are making him work. Oh, boy. We all know how I feel about these, but another Disney Plus short, Simpsons short is coming on November 12th.

At least I like how they're honest in saying it'll be like a fun send up of blah blah blah. No, it says it will pay tribute. Pay tribute to a Disney Plus brand, which was the case for both the Star Wars short and the Marvel short. They're not interested in making fun of these things.

They want you to see Lenny dressed up as a thing you know about and then you clap. You clap, clap, clap. Because it was like, yeah, it technically was a Marvel short, but it really was about the loki series like it was so specifically about that i mean the other stuff that's coming out alongside it it's like uh oh yeah the disney plus original movie home sweet home alone a reimagining of a popular holiday franchise this this all makes me sad because dis Disney Plus has all of these brands that they felt were valuable.

But I'm like, did we need to renew the copyright on Turner and Hooch? Did we need to renew the copyright on Doogie Howser? I wonder what's going to come back. I bet there's going to be like the step-by-step reboot. Oh, God, you're right. All of these TGIF shows I think will be coming back in the next decade. They missed out on Fuller House, so they're going to have to do, I would guess, Step by Step by Step? Is that what you call it?

Sure, sure. Most of those people are still alive. Oh, I didn't know. Dopesick, an original series starring Michael Keaton, which will be released in international markets. Boss, I don't even get a new Michael Keaton show on it. That stinks. At least I'll get to watch Jungle Cruise. Like whoop-de-doo.

No thanks. But Shung Chi will be on there. And I did like that movie. Sure. It's good. Good for it is what I say. But yes, that's coming November 12th. We'll be complaining about it at the end of November.

So look forward to it. Or at least I will. Yes. I doubt I'll like it that much either. But hey, prove me wrong, Simpsons. Prove me wrong. And tattoo news. We have tattoo news every once in a while.

And the tattooist Jonatron on TikTok shared an unnamed person's full leg tattoo of Abe Simpson's Union Busters speech. And yes, it's the entire thing. Abe's at the top and there's like a winding ribbon going down his leg, presumably. Based on the hair, I would assume it's the leg it like it it has to be thigh man does it pass the knee ligaments it has to yeah it it seriously is every word of his long speech until it cuts off uh like we don't breast heads like we used to and instead we tell and then it's just the full line yeah just winding down his leg on this little piece of ribbon parchment or whatever it's really the full line. Yeah, just winding down his leg on this little piece of ribbon, parchment or whatever.

It's really neat. I've seen lots of great Simpsons tattoos, but that's a pretty high standard of one that I've seen. We call that committing to the bits. It is, yeah. Neither you or I have gotten Simpsons tattoos yet. It's true.

We're about to record with a person who's got a Simpsons tattooed actually. Two Simpsons tattoos. I forgot about that. Just as a wink, look forward to, you won't hear that episode till February yes we'll see you in 2022 so in Springfield Pennsylvania there is a or there was perhaps a Moe's pop-up bar you can go check it out by going to moespopup.com and it looks way cooler than the universal version of Moe's it does though they still don't have a true purple Flaming Moe at it,

at least from the menu that's on their website. But you can get level five vegan nachos and a pink frosted donut milkshake, which does look a lot of fun. And it's one of those pop-ups that's like in an empty mall. And they're like, well, you can just get like, they're giving away space in this empty mall. We can just make it a Moe's for like two weeks. Violate whatever IP you want. No one will get like they're giving away space in this empty mall we can just make it a mose for like two weeks violate whatever ip you want no one will find out no one's going in this mall but yeah it's if you live in the pennsylvania area near wherever

springfield is there check out that most pop-up i'd go if it was nearby it's really cool yes uh another springfield one of many so moving on uh portland oregon uh christens a new bridge ned flanders crossing previously it was flanders crossing it is a pedestrian bridge uh so not the biggest deal in the world but it is very cute because of course uh flanders named after a street in portland like many simpsons characters and uh portland going through a lot of shit right now and as much as i miss it uh i want things to calm down a bit before i go back yeah it's uh and to make their bridge a simpsons reference now is a snake eating its own tail kind of thing but i i like seeing that at least you know the the bridge town as portland

i believe is called now has a has a more officially simpsons named Bridge. Yes. Made to further brotherhood and peace, and it had good intentions. So hopefully people will, all the proud boys will see that and just walk into the ocean. Well, I can't cross a bridge on good intentions, Bob. Oh, that's true. Ned would not like that.

So here is more wanna feel old news. We like to do this from time to time. The first release of the complete first season of simpsons season one happened on september 25th 2001 meaning the simpsons dvds are now 20 years old yeah so there you have it folks insane but uh i was a proud buyer of that as someone who went to best buy every tuesday for some reason to see new DVDs. Good times. And without these DVDs, we would not have the knowledge base that we have today because it was not very common for every episode of a TV series to, one, be on a DVD. It was a very new idea at the time.

But two, to have a full commentary. That is still of huge rarity. But it happened on The Simpsons. It happened on Futurama. And maybe it'll happen with Disenchantment if that ever gets released. But it all started here. It happened on The Simpsons. It happened on Futurama. And maybe it'll happen with Disenchantment if that ever gets a release. But it all started here. I think, you know, it's a real commitment on Matt Groening.

I think, you know, he started that. I think it was his insistence, like, seriously, let's have a commentary for it. But then all of the guys love it. Like, I think, honestly, I think those commentaries, one of the biggest fallouts of the DVDs are that the commentaries became these networking meetings for a bunch of Simpsons producers who hadn't seen each other in a very long time. Maybe it would have happened anyway, but I feel like the Simpsons movie really only happened because these DVD commentaries brought together all the old writers. And once they're all hanging out with, you know, James L. Brooks and Gene and Groening again, they're like, we should make that movie. It's time. Let's do it. And these recordings started around the time Al Gene took over the show.

So I thought it was a good idea for Al just to sit down and watch the entire series again. And we'll see. I think like a lot of old things come back in the early Gene years. And it might be a direct result of seeing all these episodes once again i've i've always felt that too i uh shamefully i didn't buy these dvds uh when they first came out of season one i kind of skipped them uh our i guess at first i thought well i have my tapes what do i need dvds for and plus i was still in the you know very uh much lower level simpsons fanboy mindset then of like season one play i never even put those tapes in my vcr uh but by the time it it was season three

was when i bought season three and i loved the commentary so much in this pre-podcast world that then i instantly went back and bought one and two and and you have the simpsons dvds some of the highest selling dvds ever like at least of tv on dvd and it rolled out the red carpet like i i believe the chapelle show and family guy did it eat like yeah you that and made it an even bigger deal but simpsons dvds were a huge huge seller on it uh on the format and technically they've still put them out or they did two years ago i don't think disney's into it maybe but i know they've recorded commentaries for a lot more past this i really want al jean to be on the record about how many

commentaries did you record presumably they were going to be on the fx fxx fx is it fxx if it's it's fx okay it was yeah or simpsons world i think it was called yeah which like yeah why why won't disney give us our commentaries that was always the plan you know even if there weren't dvds these commentaries would be on the app but you know what they're not because the app doesn't exist and disney only has commentaries on the movie yeah uh so yeah the last dvd set to release which i think we both have is season season 19. That came out in December of 2019. Season 18, I think, came out in December of 2018. Yes.

So yeah. I missed out on that one. They did a very limited print run of it. You can pay a lot for it on eBay, which I haven't done yet. Radio silence on season 20. Season 20 is technically available on DVDd but it's just like the uh bare bones the dvd release i know actually season 18 was 2017 wow man now i uh well and i i haven't checked in on it lately but uh like six months ago i re-bought all the dvds because i had kind

of misplaced some of them uh of the first 10 seasons uh and then i saw that like i think disney was letting them go out of print i don't know if it's how it is now and i mean it's almost impossible to have something that's like saying like nintendo let super mario 3 on the nes go out of print it's like well i mean they didn't make new ones but yeah you'll never run out of copies of it everywhere and honestly it doesn't seem like disney is interested physical media, even with their big movies. Oh, yeah. Didn't they just kind of stop releasing them on Blu-ray? You know, they're very bare bones. But if you want to own Avengers Endgame on Blu-ray, you can.

Or sometimes they do license that. If it's the biggest, big thing, like they'll let, I think, Mondo make a special edition collection of it. But I don't think internally they take it as seriously as they did like you know eight years ago like the diamond collection of blu-ray well i guess blu-ray is now an old format it's like 15 years old at this point so i maybe with 4k they're just like no more no more physical media i don't see them uh moving on past that making a new version of every movie for physical media i you can get 4k blu-rays of things pretty much only if sony owns the rights to them because like sony gives a shit

about 4k blu-ray which hey they look nice i like the look of 4k blu-rays and our last bit of news it's simpsons adjacent in that the king of the hill potential spinoff live action spinoff monsignor martinez the pilot was made in 2000 we talked about it on talking to the hill but finally maybe maybe it surfaced before this i have never seen it but it's in full on youtube you can watch it i have not yet shamefully but it's there finally maybe we'll talk about it if talking to the hill comes back in 2022 i wait shay i i feel like you can bet on that uh and yeah i think the uh yeah the date on the youtube video that was shared with us for many kind folks both in the discord and on twitter thank you for alerting us to it because

we'd always said oh i'd love to watch it i i don't think it's anywhere i uh the youtube video that was shared with me was like oh it was uploaded in july so and honestly to be safe i should download it now just in case the fox lawyers get to it and july was went long after we finished our miniseries yes yes yes but uh yeah or i guess his manchini senior would say c c via condios to that pilot when someone takes it down but yeah that is all the simpsons news as for us let's talk about what's happening on our network so number one most important thing you need to know is that our new miniseries is coming on october 29th and that mini series is blabbing about batman the animated series we are going over our 10 favorite episodes of that series over the last 10 weeks of 2021 and we'll post a list of the episodes very soon probably about a week before the series goes live but all you need to know now is that it launches

on october 29th you want to be a five dollar and up patron to hear that we'll be posting some great new art from nina matsumoto oh man is that with the schedule yeah yeah guys look forward to fine you don't have to read the schedule but look at that art nina man like that deserves your eyes you don't have to read what we write but please just trust all of our choices are good uh and we will we will accept no dissent yeah look i bet there'll be some people who say like hey why isn't x there or y there it's like hey we we wanted to keep it to 10 and who knows we could do 10 more some other time you don't know this there's like 90 other episodes after we do 10 so fucking man that's not even counting like i could do a 10 favorite superman episodes or justice league episodes or

like the dcau is incredibly deep but yes october 29th be there for blabbing about batman the animated series same pat time same bat channel uh same bat rss feed yes as they would say in the future so let's talk about the what a cartoon october schedule for our sister podcast what a cartoon uh so the first week of course will be danny phantom uh finally we're covering a butch hartman show his second show that he was the creator of and the episode is mystery meet the first episode of danny phantom if you are 10 years younger than us you probably had your sexual awakening while watching that show yes yeah some of the ladies on that show make you feel a certain way or maybe danny himself i don't know yeah we had it was fun to go back to that with one of our premium patrons who chose Danny

Phantom and what a starts to an a Halloween month they yes in the next episode we're doing the third week of October is the big city greens episode Barry Kuda so the first week we have a story about a ghost the third week we have a story about a murder mystery so we're keeping with the spooky theming

it's not an accident. Believe us. This is all planned out ahead of time. Oh, sure, sure. And yes, Big City Green's a recent Disney Plus hit. It's coming back for a third season very soon. And we're covering one of the funniest episodes of the first season. So looking forward to that. It is quite a Simpsons-y looking show as well.

So I think if you're a Simpsons fan, give it a watch. A lot of yellow people running around in that show. And finally, for our what a cartoon movie for that month we'll be covering batman beyond return of the joker uh and if you're on the five dollar feed or the free feed you'll hear the extended free preview of that podcast if you want to hear the probably four plus hour podcast in full you'll have to be a ten dollar patron at patreon.com slash talking simpsons it lines up perfectly with batman uh blabbing about batman the animated series with us talking about the you know everybody's favorite batman beyond thing

there's so many great episodes of batman beyond but everybody loves return of the joker it's like the best looking batman beyond thing because it's tms at the height of their digital powers yeah and you don't have to be a batman beyond fan or i've seen a single episode to enjoy it because i walked into a blind and i loved it when i saw it like 10 years ago and it's all on hbo max if you if you got that frankly there's too many batman things on hbo max when i was scrolling through it i was like i forgot they made all of these directed dvd things in the 2010s they're all all the directed dvd things are on there. All the movies, every 17 different Batman series are on there. You are watching Batman. The HBO Max,

you could just get it to watch Batman and you'd be covered for three months at least of non-stop streaming. There's a lot of Batman out there. And also, on our schedule for $5 and up patrons, of course, there's the monthly episode of Talking Futurama. Next month's episode, October's episode, will be Where the Buggalo Roam,

a fun episode full of insane accents that are not offensive at all in 2021. No, it's aged wonderfully. Yes. But, yeah, I mean, some of my favorite zap lines are in that episode. And we had some fun. We really did. And, yes, so up next in our own news is that uh we're doing a poll as usual for the next month's what a cartoon movie that being november's what a cartoon movie episode and

we're doing a yes slash no poll for the rankin bass classic boomer special rudolph the red-nosed reiner the 1964 special the stop motion classic full of great songs and shaky morals but we'll be asking you to vote yes or no on that for our What a Cartoon movie for November. It's something that I've always wanted to do since we started this podcast network, and I think this is a great chance to do it. Yeah, it's right ahead of that holiday season. We get to go back to a thing we all watched

in our childhoods growing up. We were the last generation, or maybe the generation right after us, were the last ones as kids to get reruns of Rudolpholph because i think it's like kind of not a thing anymore not really no but uh and and also if you're somebody who's like i only like it when it's anime technically this was made in japan so it really is it's it's stop motion anime right yeah yeah and uh so yes but it's a yes or no you know if the no's win we'll do a different poll and see what what uh probably holiday themed things and rudolph will be on

there but i think we all want to hear about that uh that horrible freak that santa's right to detest and i want to hear all about silver and gold yeah so yes that is it for us uh so in personal news we usually talk about things that we're doing and playing that aren't related to the podcast and since I got back from Canada I basically hit the ground running when it comes to podcasting we just jumped right back into things with the Lion King recording and then we had to start up

Batman the animated series podcast so I've had not a lot of free time but I did finish a game I mentioned last month that is Death's Door the Zelda like starring birds. That gets my full hearty recommendation. It was really, really good. And I played it for about 15 hours.

It's great. It's a nice, tidy, little Zelda-like. And I enjoyed it very much. Extremely well made. Very challenging but fun bosses. And a fun, cool world with great music. All the other games I starred are gigantic. So I should probably...

A game like death's door would be good for me it's nice to play little games in between big ones and uh so i mentioned another game last month i started the great ace attorney collection and i am still on the first game but at the very end so i don't want to talk about it because i didn't talk about it on twitter i don't want anyone to accidentally spoil me but i'm enjoying it very very much that's a danger if you say you're playing a game that has mysteries in it like it that's the same with uh or if you ever want to like just look for a picture of a character from one of those types of games yes i made the mistake of when i played the first danganronpa and i was like oh well how do you

spell that character's name and then i i write character's name into google and then of course the next uh word after that is death. Death scene, yeah. Character name, death scene, yes. When I would recommend anyone Danganronpa, I would say never Google anything about the game. Oh, yeah. Just play through it, and then you can look up, who did this character's voice? Otherwise, you will see blank death or blank true villain or whatever. Exactly, yeah.

It's the Danger Danganronpa, a.k.a. Shooty Refutey. I like that one. That's what I like to one call it yeah uh and i also bought death loop which i'm gonna wait till i get back from canada to play more of yes i'm going to canada again i'm not gonna play the music because i'm just going for 11 days but it's happening again it's uh the thing to celebrate about it is that it is uh seemingly with i'm knocking on wood there seemingly with much more ease than your previous two times uh not but sorry i don't want

to say but it's it's a quicker turnaround i guess you're still having to do a whole lot of stuff uh you wouldn't normally have to do before and all of the uh all of the information about it is very confusing and contradictory and out of date so it makes it very fun to travel i'm not stressed out at all during this recording it's so helpful that like there's 17 different types of covid tests yeah yeah anyhow it's going to be fine but yeah i got death loop it is uh really good i played through what amounts to the tutorial and it's essentially like an immersive sim style game like dishonored but in a um in a time loop so you play through it over and over again through different areas different things happen at different times of the day and it's my shit totally my shit so i'm really getting into it that's uh the last uh bethesda game that'll ever be on a non-microsoft thing i would bet oh you're right yeah enjoy death loop for that as well yeah

yeah i totally forgot about that they bought that yeah you're right yep okay so uh one thing uh public service announcement is that delta rune Chapter 2 launched about three years after the first one. And everyone should play it. I haven't had time to play it yet. But Chapter 1 came out in 2018. Chapter 2 just came out. These are like solid four to five hour RPGs that you need to play. They are technically the sequel to Undertale.

And absolutely worth playing. And they're free. Just download them on your Switch. They're free. A free Switch game? Yes. That're free. A free Switch game? Yes. That's crazy. The gimmick is, well, Toby Fox, the creator, who basically does almost everything for the games,

he's too charitable and he's too selfless. And he should be charging at least like $5 for these, but he won't. But the gimmick is that he says he's working on chapters 3, 4, and 5, and I think he's going to release at the same time. And that's what you will pay for in the future. Okay, man, that guy deserves to be richer than that, man. Yeah. I think he realizes I have enough money on

a lot of rich people. Yeah. And for that, I say hats off to Toby Fox. Man, that's not billionaire mindset, Toby Fox. No. Come on, you're just going to be a millionaire with that attitude. He's just some lousy artist. Yeah. In terms of watching stuff, Nina and I are watching something that I don't want to talk about because it's very old. It's about a mystery that I don't want to talk about because it's very old it's about a mystery I don't want to be spoiled just like with greatest attorney

you'll find out about it when I'm done but I have been catching up with the Gretzko because I only said I only saw the first season and the Christmas special so I watched season two and you know we're on season three season four is coming out in December oh I didn i didn't see that i can't wait i uh yeah i like i'm all up to date with the gretzko i'm glad you're you're checking it out that tells me maybe in the future we'll do us in the gretzko podcast i think it's very possible uh it's still you know sometimes it's a hard show to watch just because like uh the the pain of the office life is still very fresh and even though like these the there are jokes very specifically about being like a tired millennial in a japanese office which is different than uh being one in a california

office but it's still very stressful for old agresco season three is not really about the office at all though no it's not i think they were like we kind of ran out of office ideas so but it's very fun i still like the direction it went at season three got me even more because it's like oh yeah how do you quit your office job for a side gig like kind of thing uh but yeah i i'm looking forward to that season four and in terms of movies that we saw uh for some reason on a very early 2000s kick so i saw minority report for the first time believe it or not and then we saw a memento i think it was nina's first time and it was my second time in like 20 years but yes obviously both very good movies i don't need to say any more about them i remember feeling how special well i didn't know nothing about

memento when i saw it in the theaters when it was new or the work of like christopher nolan or anything when i saw it it really was one of those like lightning bolt like strike like whoa i've never seen anything like this now now i've seen the christopher nolan puzzle box enough times that even if it's good i'm like well that's kind of what i expected yeah memento feels probably still feel special plus i mean like uh you got you got a joey pants and uh trinity reunion from the matrix in that both great in it yeah and uh yeah i remember seeing that in 2001 when it came out and a friend's dad took us because he was like oh i heard about this movie on npr let's go see it i had no idea what i was in for and i was like this is awesome on the same trip the friend's dad also took us to see pearl harbor and i i was stewing in my seat it sucked

so much it was three hours long and i couldn't leave because he drove us there and at the end of the movie i wanted to tear into it and my friend asked his dad like how'd you think of the movie dad he's like i liked it it was my friend asked his dad, like, how did you think of the movie, dad? He's like, I liked it. It was pretty fun. And I was like, I fucking hate that movie. And you paid for me to go there. You can't.

So you bit your tongue. Yeah. I still have the scars from that tongue biting. But yeah, that's why I associate Memento with also having to see Pearl Harbor on the same trip. But now today, Pearl Harbor is forgotten as the memories in Memento's head. And that's it for me. So I have a lot of secret things i'm playing and watching but i can't talk about them now uh well for me with what i played this last month i am still chipping away at bloodborne uh my husband tells me that i am in the back half of it now pretty far in it i had just killed the what the drake pearl or the pearl drake like it's

like a an electric skeleton dragon thing i killed that guy and uh things uh my husband also told me i don't want too many spoilers while i'm playing it but he said like if you want the true ending i'm gonna have to show you two videos of how to get a third of an umbilical cord or whatever yeah that is true so uh i did that i will tell you all the endings are like 15 seconds long that just like in play just like the other souls games okay but but i'm i'm really loving it it is my favorite souls game i played to date i'm and i'm hoping to beat it you know obviously before elden ring comes out in a few months so that is still coming out right it'll be it's real it'll be the first time i played a souls game where everyone's discovering the secrets together you know i think it'll be

the first souls game that is coming out that i won't have to review oh man doesn't that that'll feel great man that's that's like how it felt when i played my when i played mario odyssey for the first time i was like i can enjoy this like a normal person. Oh, how nice. And also, I'm grinding away the achievements in Hades for Xbox for the second time of my giant playthrough for Hades. Lost Judgment came out, but I played... Judgment was free for a weekend on Xbox, so I played the first chapter of that, and it's really good.

I like, after playing the RPG of Yakuza 7, to go back to a brawler on Judgment and also like just how expensive it is. It's just so fancy looking. How can that studio make all these games so quickly? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess it really is that like it's every Sega developer just all on that. Though who knows what's happened with the Like a Dragon studio because the rumor was that the guy is going to work for Tencent. Yeah, Nogoshi, right? Nogoshi, yeah.

He was gobbled up by China. Oh, man. I say China, name your price. Work for sale. Hey, I'm up for it, guys. Tencent, $2 million. That's all you need from me. And also with video games still playing ring fit

i was part of a interview piece in ign of like why are you still playing ring fit things so that was that was fun too with uh with writer rebecca valentine but you're totally right henry nintendo dropped the ball on any dlc for that but that's been true of everything for the switch so far it's it's just unbelievable to me like i know they sold that many like sell one for ten dollars you will make a lot of money and i and i want more content for that game yeah just make a sequel after like animal crossing and splatoon i have no hopes for them this jam when it comes to having you know viable dlc strategies or to keep a game active smash brother is the only one that's it that's it that's because of sakurai yeah i i think so too yeah but with

i had held up my hope uh that on the direct that just happened last week that there would be a ring fit announcement on it uh i'm still just have the teeniest amount of hope that we'll get some before the end of the year because ring fit was announced separate from a direct as well so i could just wake up one morning and i'm like ring fit 2 announced for normal people this is the thing we send to cnn or whatever not not the freak show that is the direct where everybody's like chris pratt well don't really fuck chris pratt i don't want him to be mario yeah that i'm not going to see that movie not even out of curiosity i can't i and look i'm fine with all the other casting like it's who you cast in these movies like of course jack black was going to be b and Seth Rogen was going to be Donkey Kong but they let Charles

Martinet make eye contact with Chris Pratt once it's fine or Charlie Day is Luigi like that's all fine the one that bugs me is Chris Pratt because I've now seen the Lego movie and Oddword and in both cases Chris Pratt does essentially the same voice and he i can't imagine he'll do a different voice for mario in that it's uh i mean at least it'll be not uh i guess bob hoskins running around with john leguizamo it'll still look like mario but i i don't understand like is he gonna do a voice who knows you know i still not even they didn't show us frame one of that movie that's got me thinking that because like you know if you would have thought oh the Grinch will look like the Grinch in the Illumination Grinch thing not exactly I mean he does he looks kind he looks mostly like the Grinch but it's uh yeah it's just not for me uh and also I've been on a real Matrix

kick and that got me playing Saints Row 4 which is basically Silly Matrix and that's fun uh the though don't buy it on Switch people because I tried to and uh it's like you're trying to play this off of the sd card fuck you and it just like shuts down really okay yeah so you know don't do that listeners and then finally as part of my big trip to chicago i went to the galloping ghost arcade i'd never been there before it uh is one of the best arcades in america or the that still stands that's where a lot of king of kong took place yes did you walk around announcing a kill screen i bet they think that joke is funny i should i should no but it was they had apparently just recently reopened as uh illinois you know um was allowing people to do

indoor stuff with masks on uh we were masked all whole time we were there. But yeah, it was just really cool. I was like, oh, that's a very well-maintained Spider-Man machine, Simpsons machine, pretty much every fighting game you ever heard of. See, because I've been to California Extreme, which is not a place you can go to. It's a convention that hasn't happened in two years. No, no.

But at that, the collectors at that are amazing collectors they're really great but most of them in the times i went they weren't that focused in the 90s stuff because a lot of the 90s machines were like well we just change out the carts in it or whatever so you wouldn't really see the spider-man machine or the machines i grew up with galping ghost maintains those and it was really cool to see i played through spider-man for sega all the way through if we hadn't just done the simpsons and played through it already i would have played through all of the simpsons again i i really miss going to arcades and it's so uh it's

so depressing that we're coming up on the two-year anniversary of things that we've done you know just like i haven't done that in two years and uh for retronauts i used to go to like three conventions a year almost and uh and we used to do live shows so i want to do things in 2022 maybe maybe yeah uh as for watching stuff uh like i said shang chi really good uh it's not some marvel movies have bad fights this movie could not have bad martial arts fighting in it and fortunately it didn't like it actually is very well done and uh and also like tony leung is just an amazing actor i love i love him and everything he deserves his big fat marvel paycheck i've heard good things uh in this movie is it a standalone movie or is it part of a roadmap leading to a end game style thing 10 years later well a little column a little great but uh if you watch

it it pretty much starts there's okay yes you need to have seen a couple of marvel movies to really get a couple of things that happen in it but mostly it is a fresh starting point but at the end of that fresh starting point at the end of that movie then comes the roadmap to the more movies bob so it it is a starting point but if you haven't seen i if i even named the movie it's a spoiler but if you haven't seen a lot of the old marvel movies one character will kind of be confusing to you but uh also uh we did a we're doing a full rewatch of the spidey movies and the matrix films so after after seeing that trailer for matrix uh resurrection right i was like i gotta watch all the old matrix again and now they got animatrix in 4k on hbo max so i'm gonna watch it again don't watch flight of the

osiris uh it's too horny yeah it's bad uh yeah what a bad one to end on of all the listeners can hear us talk about that on a five hour our last podcast before uh this shutdown i think it really yeah january of 2020 so i think so and uh and yes finally talk about that chicago trip i went to see all out aew's pro wrestling mega event in chicago they're not really chicago hoffman estates like it i had to when i wanted to do shit in chicago it was like all right time to just be ready for an 80 lift ride there like but whatever but the aw show all out was the best wrestling show i've ever been to like one of the greatest matches i've ever seen live and the sound of the cheering my throat i was worried i

had gotten a cold or or covid i was gonna warn you henry that's your instrument you can't waste it on screaming at wrestling but i had to scream so loud brian danielson appeared out of nowhere you never thought he'd show up and and yeah that was uh my 39th birthday trip so it was a fun little birthday trip and and of course very responsibly afterwards me and my husband got tested a couple times for covid to be sure we did not because we traveled and we were at an indoor function that technically had a mask mandate but uh i'd say 20 of the people sitting in my vision line were not wearing masks and uh nobody who worked at that place seemed to give a shit. I'm going to test it today. Good on you. In just a few hours.

I won the lottery, too. But, yeah, that is everything that's going on in our lives. Let's talk about comments for Talking Simpsons episodes. The first ones are about the Simpsons arcade game. We did a fun podcast about that with Chris Kohler before they even announced the arcade game for 1UP, right? Yes, yeah, the arcade one-up thing and before my big old trip to galloping ghosts where i could have had even more insights of having touched a classic simpsons arcade machine it's sticky uh and it also had a giant fan uh like for cooling the place balanced

on top of it which i'm like come on can't you put this on like a shittier machine it's a load-bearing arcade game uh so manic rainbow says great episode boys but i'm afraid i have to correct bob on something no uh when you said that this is the only life and hell game in the much better ds version of the 2007 simpsons game there is an even bigger reference to these characters when you are going through matt graining's crazy mansion there is an entire life and hell room where you platform on what looked to be actual graining drawings if you haven't played this version of the game i'd recommend it this is the only video game fact i can actually correct bob on and now i feel like a big man well uh yes the simpsons game is very strange in that

there is a one version that's identical for the xbox 360 and ps3 and then there is a wii version that's different uh that could be the same game as the ps2 version but then there's a psp version and a ds version so i think there might be three or four different versions of the same game that have different things in them right right and now every cover is different too and if you put them all together it's a big thing oh yeah they'll cover the cover montage was pretty good i now yeah i'm gonna have to crank bust out my 3ds and buy that i i wonder what it's going for on ebay i would like probably nothing i in uh yeah i saw us talk about things feeling old i saw a euro gamer had posted a like uh remember the simpsons game thing and the the writers were saying like remember when you were

10 and played the simpsons game i was like fuck me i was 28 uh it's like 20 bucks on ebay you could do it i might just do that you know i've got a little free time coming up soon maybe i'll bust it out but uh also on the simpsons arcade episode christmas ape wrote i love all the slightly off model touches you highlighted and the fact that those are in a product with so many specific references to the show and even the role and even the real voice cast only makes them stand out more those are the kind of creative liberties with a license that i think could only have happened at that point in the entertainment history before ip holders really started becoming obsessed with brand management the arcade game is

one of the few official simpsons things i can think of with a noticeably divergent interpretation so it remains unique in the series history yeah I when I tweeted out the promotional thing about that post and I had you know I found a good gif of Bart doing his actions I really really stared at the Bart for the first time in a while I was like his hair breaks every hair rule like yeah it's like going backwards kind of like slanted backwards and it's certainly not nine either like it's uh that the the characters can break the rules for expressiveness which uh you know in the official games even that was not allowed by like 94 you know like so it's just amazing like uh how all those crappy acclaim ones just made to like you know

hit a release date talk about off-model barts yeah off-model in a bad way uh konami actually like tried something yeah it's something that'll never happen again no that's why it's special and you can buy it for 600 yeah 800 with shipping oh geez but you get a stool you get a stool with it they don't sell their so those anywhere else do they uh anyhow we're moving on to new kids on the black and jason lu says i remember watching this episode when it first came out and originally in the burn slash smithers rickshaw scene a burn smith burn says to smithers after whipping him uh this is in quotes by the way and you call yourself a china man i believe this line got complaints and now the line was changed to what it is now.

As an Asian American, it was pretty jarring to hear a racial slur on national TV. Worst episode ever earlier in the season had Lou making cracks about Asians and Wiggum telling him, why don't you lay off the Asians, Lou? I have wondered if some of the Simpsons creators were trying to quote unquote get back at the Asian American community,

because at that time there was a lot of controversy with the Mr. Wong cartoon on icebox.com that some of the simpsons creatives were part of yeah oh man i feel bad to be even reminded of mr wong yeah that made me uh go down the wikipedia entry and i forgot there was like a movie oh mr wong movie yeah and would you believe the white creator did the voice of mr wong oh man i i'm sure very respectfully and like yeah now it was uh yeah it's kind of shocking that that was um okay then i think uh you know especially that the china man line i think too uh scully tells the story about how they do the joke with crusty doing his me so sorry routine uh as a joke about shitty old jokes about asian stereotypes but also kind of an asian stereotype and then yeah uh scully was told like

oh but you know an interviewer called in asking like hey people are offended at this and then scully replied with like me so sorry and though not sorry and then uh the reporter told scully like are you sure you want to be on the record with that he's like no you're right i take that back please i'm glad he gave him the chance to restate that uh actually we just recorded an episode in which uh there's another asian american uh joke in which they're talking about the chinese and how they're crazy for having new year's in february and homer and wigum laugh about it but then wigum goes great food though yeah great food yeah so it could be like another runner in this you know uh things that we don't know about but at the time they were getting a little backlash from some of these jokes you know seinfeld had a whole thing

about that too that i remember in among white people it was the seinfeld episode said seinfeld thought an asian girlfriend of his would be like oh, she has so much like wisdom from the Orient or whatever. And people said to him, that's that's a horrible stereotype. And he says, like, how can it be racist if it's positive is what the joke was. And I don't know when I read that joke. I feel like you're supposed to be like, that's a good observation from this observational comic. I don't feel like you're supposed to think he's stupid. Yes. Yeah, I think you're I think you are supposed to be like that's a good observation from this observational comic i don't feel like you're supposed to think he's stupid yes yeah i think you're i think you are supposed to be on

his side you're supposed to go like i know it's a joke but really he's right this the sign felt onto something as he always is uh sabrina also on the episode said this episode makes me think of the one random fact i know about jc chazay he wasennonite. I read that in an interview years ago. He mentioned that he would personally wouldn't join the military because he's a Mennonite and they are pacifists. It always stuck with me because the ending of this episode is where he's dragged away screaming after being enlisted. It seems odd to me that they would have him be the one put into the military. You know, that makes him going, no, and being dragged away funnier, I don't think intentionally on the Simpsons writer's part.

I don't think they knew. I think they thought, he hasn't said anything in a while. Yeah, or a manager said, like, each boy has to have the same number of lines, guys. Justin was the lead boy. But thank you, Sabrina. You know, that's the kind of in-sync expertise that we need from our commenters. I didn't know that about him yeah so thanks so moving on to principal

charming uh here's a fun fact from john barnes who says marge's talk of her sister celibacy is almost certainly a paraphrase of a famous quote from shakespeare's 12th night act 2 scene 5 line 125 quote some are born great some achieve greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them and that is what john barnes says and yes i bet you know james l brooks wrote that line he's very smart oh yeah learned if you will it's learned yes that's right it's pronounced learned but yeah that uh having the word thrust in there uh i feel like it is a call back to that shakes oh certainly certainly yeah it's uh and i and you know here i was on the lion king podcast showing off my hamlet knowledge and here i missed such an obvious reference to to 12th night but i'll admit i have not seen all of 12th night i have only read

i've only read up to the eighth night pretty boring uh on that same episode andrew giacchetti says i haven't made a comment on the show in quite some time but i can provide some more insight into selma's earrings i checked frinkiak to confirm and while those specific s earrings may not show back up they do make a reference to the specific sb earrings in a later simpsons episode wedding for disaster for season 20 episode 15 the gist of this episode is that reverend lovejoy actually wasn't ordained when performing margin homer's second ceremony so technically they're still divorced so they decide to do the wedding right this time what starts out as a bridezilla episode eventually devolves into a saw parody in which selma and patty torture homer in a saw room while

bart and lisa try to track down homer the clue they come across is a pair of sb earrings however this leads them to sideshow bob who turns out was watching director's commentary and spooning for warmth in a cabin with crusty they make a point to say that they were spooning for warmth but because sideshow bob is smart he tells them the earrings are actually selma's whether these earrings came back as a reference to the original s earrings or if it is a cheap pretense for a sideshow bob misdirect it's hard to say but the s earrings for selma do come back somewhat in a modern simpsons episode and yes being 12 years ago i i hate that a season 20 episode is so old now yes but yeah so i guess the earrings came back once as a mislead uh i don't know if

anyone remembered that but uh maybe that was like the the germ of the idea and then after we did that episode i learned a new mnemonic from a simpsons directors of how to tell them apart is that patty's hair is a circle like a hamburger patty unless you go to wendy's yeah and then it all goes out the window uh let's move on to what a cartoon comments. Let's talk about our what a cartoon movie for the month of August. The Lion King and Silky PJ says, I always thought the strangest logical jump in the movie is with the wildebeest. They are following realistic animal logic by having this huge stampede to be the cause of Mufasa's death.

So is that part of the circle of life? It is like the antelopes where if we give them humanity it raises too many questions and i also think it's a lost opportunity that scar doesn't use them as a scapegoat for why he should be in charge or brings the hyenas into the group it's the main gripe i've always had for this film that i think many ignore and i don't know uh you have to forget their animals sometimes yes and i will say like maybe scar violated the circle of life by provoking the stampede sure it wasn't it wasn't a natural stampede causing the stampede well and the stampede didn't kill well it did but only after scar made him fall into it one more time so but yeah i mean uh i do think for the machinations

of scar you bring in more of that but yeah it's one of those things of like well you don't want to think about the wildebeest being people because they are all about to be killed by the hyenas when the hyenas move into town and overhunt so they kill everybody if you humanize too many of them then yeah it's uh it's dark it's uh it's it's even darker we don't want to know their story nathalia also says about lion king wanted to add what the hype was like as a black teen girl during its release i was 13 and i was extremely hyped to see it both as a disney kid and because the mid 90s was an era of black centric and african aesthetic in many black communities like the malcolm x shirts on everyone a lot of black folk were excited to have a movie showcasing anything african

on the screen including languages and singers and until princess and the frog came out nala was the closest a lot of black girls had to a black disney princess i was enraptured after my first viewing and went to see it three times and kept humming songs from the movie for weeks later that summer my family went to disney world half coincidence and our first day in the magic kingdom i saw the soundtrack on tape and begged my dad to get it for me despite the disney world markup he did and it almost never left my walkman this movie became me and my dad's favorite thing together as he loved the african vibes as well and we watched it a lot on vhs together when i visited in the summer right after he passed away

i saw the musical on tour and the placement of he lives in you when mufasa tells simba about the past kings looking down from above always makes me think of my dad every time i hear any songs from this movie i'm reminded of that summer and how my black dad probably paid twice as much as he should have in the middle of a florida summer just to buy his daughter her favorite soundtrack. And I still have that tape, too. Very nice. Thank you. Yeah, that was a very sweet story. I felt like you've heard enough white guy perspectives on what a cartoon.

And this is also a pro dad perspective I agree with. Yeah. It's very sweet. Your dad sounded very, very sweet. That's a great story. I got to see Lion King's back on stage again in Broadway now. So Broadway is currently open back up. I wonder if they're going to stay open all the way through Christmas.

But Lion King plays once more. Up next, we have Mortal Kombat The Journey Begins, a fun episode with Matt McMuscles, and I think the worst thing that we've covered on this podcast network. I know. The other thing we did this month tried to be worse than it, and it couldn't pull it off. It entertained me more.

But Dylan Gallagher says, the video's intention of advertising Mortal Kombat the movie to be backfired as the previous inclusion of the shot Sub-Zero being slowly frozen by his own icicle disturbed me so much that I never saw the movie until I was in my teens, even though I'd wanted to see it and already owned the action figure of christopher lambert's ride in although i'm not so sure who they were trying to target by beginning the video with a trailer for national lampoon senior trip that was definitely my first exposure to the word virgin and i'm pretty sure my parents had to awkwardly hand wave my questions about what that word meant because of that trailer i will forever associate that song

boom shakalak by apache indian with mortal kombat so there you have it wow i haven't thought of senior trip in a long time i barely know what that movie is i think i've said this before on the show but uh my experience with asking parents what virgin meant uh it was in a movie theater i was taken to see the movie twins and danny devito finds out you're a virgin he can't believe Arnold Schwarzenegger is a virgin and I was like what's that mean and my mom I think she said he's never had a girlfriend or something like that that's funny man yeah I don't ah man I can't recall when I first the closest thing I can remember to that is when I saw Philadelphia like was my mom was watching it on TV and I asked like what wait what is AIDS like

and that was uncomfortable for her as well or also like why why is this lawyer acting weird about meeting a gay guy what is a gay guy why does he not like that uh my mom would not explain the dirty joke in Philadelphia oh yeah where how a man fakes an orgasm yes yeah and uh yeah I'm not gonna say it here you throw yogurt on the back well come on henry i just said i was gonna do it anyhow my mom would not explain that to me uh that hey look that one confused me as well as a kid uh not it it was it was years before i understood it she said she said you'll throw yogurt one day honey don't worry any yes anyway moving on uh joe hodgson says about mortal komb, you guys have covered some bad tunes, but I think this one is the only one I'd say is devoid of any value.

And the next competitor was probably Street Sharks, which Matt had the pleasure of also being a part of. This came out when Mortal Kombat was huge and kids were willing to buy essentially anything with that dragon logo on it. What a piece of shit. I am actively still mad at folks who greenlit this 40 minute commercial where almost nothing happens it doesn't even have a resolution it just ends you guys certainly covered how terrible the production is but this thing reminds me of the playstation dragon ball

z title ultimate battle 22 which had these terrible minimalist 3d backgrounds with sprites over them that operate at a terrible frame rate many of us dbz fans in the late 90s spent far too much money importing that trash but i'd much rather play that game than watch this thing again and yeah i you know we didn't import that game my brother burned it late in the 90s when we were like oh let's uh this dragon ball z thing we can play one on the playstation that game was shit and now that i think i had racked up some of the terribleness too is like oh it must be like tech problems because it's burned but then i hear from people like this like you imparted the real one it's that bad too i think i played that for the saturn i

think someone lent it to me or gave me a burn disc or something like that and it was like yeah the the appeal of having 22 playable characters is lost when you start playing the game uh it's it's unbelievable again like this was made i am certain this was made to be a commercial that would just air on tbs as like and now go watch mortal kombat and then halfway through they realized like i bet we could just sell this to kids like yeah let's sell it and i bet they i still bet they made millions and millions on this junk. Yeah. There should have been a class action lawsuit, I think.

I know. Yeah. Unfortunately, everybody quit or it just fully dissolved anyway. So you can't do it. So moving on to our final episode, we'll be talking about it's Laverne and Shirley in the army. And I'll tell you, most of the comments were, oh my God, this sucks. So I got one productive comments that had more than just

we agree with you it's bad christopher mcdougall says there's only one show that i can think of that went from normal to jump the shark crazy like happy days did family matters by season nine they would have had steve urkel clones a robot urkel and carl bruce lee's and other crazy shenanigans this made me think why didn't family matters get a bad cartoon spin-off that what a cartoon can make fun of well my prayers have been answered by reading this on the wikipedia page on september 1st 2021 it was announced an animated christmas film did i do that to the holidays a steve urkel story will air on cartoon network as part of the upcoming block acme night come on guys you gotta do an episode about this and i will say uh reginald bell johnson better be part of that. Yeah. It's a comedic duo. He's got to be there.

I know. It's like, hey, look, we all love Jaleel White, but he needs Carl to bounce off of. You know, it works. They can skip all the other living cast members. I don't care, you know, but even Laura, they could skip. I don't care. But they got to have Reginald Vell Johnson, especially like he's already associated with one of everybody's favorite movies. It happens to be a Christmas movie Bob I don't know yeah that's right it's

it's secretly you play the cop you feel bad for because he shot somebody yes yeah these poor these poor cops who have to get like you know uh their whole careers ruined because they shot a child like boy it's so hard for them and listen you don't need to go to season nine to see the thing go crazy Urkelbot appears in season three okay they had an Urkelbot by season three yeah I just looked it up in 1991 season three episode seven is called Robo Nerd

that's great in season nine it's like what if they were pirates what if they got shrunk down what if there was an evil doll it goes further but by the by 1991 they were like all right this guy this kid can transform he can make robots there's potions involved it's all over the place and a special thank you on that episode to our guest devin not just for making us do it but also uh putting it on youtube and not having it taken down because that's the only way our viewers no

one was i probably wouldn't have bought the DVD of it. But fortunately, he just uploaded it to YouTube and it's still up there. So, you know, don't tell Paramount, I guess. Paramount Plus says we don't want that. That's true, yeah. HBO Max, maybe? I don't know. Turner? I don't know.

So, definitely the Hanna-Barbera Library and Hanna-Barbera made it. That's owned by Turner and then in turn Warner. But Paramount owns Happy Days Things, which would include Laura Vernon Shirley. So, yeah, it's very complicated. I don't know. But honestly, I think both sides go like, who cares? Just take it off our hands. We don't want it.

We would never advertise it. We can't sell it. It's no good. But yes, thank you, Christopher, for alerting me to the existence of this Steve Urkel animated special. I'm sure I will watch it. Maybe it'll be one of our 2022 podcasts. Could be.

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