Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - September 2022

Episode Date: October 5, 2022

After a month full of travel and illness, we've got a ton to discuss on our regularly scheduled community podcast. We talk about Simpsons news including new shorts and eyewitness accounts of the D23 panel. Then we go over everything we've been through in the last month, followed by us responding to some of our fave Patreon comments that may or may not be about nachos. So listen now or we'll send for Horst! Support this podcast and get over 100 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsonsand becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

I heartily endorse this event or product. that King of the Hill reboot. Who is here with me today as always? Troy McClure, action figure discoverer, Henry Gilbert. And in case you don't know, Talk to the Audience is our monthly community podcast. It launches at the end of the month on Patreon, the beginning of the month on the free feed. And what we do in this podcast is go over what's happening in the Simpsons world and what's happening in our world. And we also answer your questions and comments from the last round of episodes. And yes, welcome to October. and by the way i'm recording remotely from canada i was supposed to be here earlier but something happened we'll talk about later this is a temporary recording setup this will not be my setup when i move to canada just so you know

i have not moved yet i am here temporarily for a week to stay with my wife so that's what's happening now in my life but a lot is happening in the simpsons world more news than last month and that's because there's a new season on tv right now it just started uh yesterday as of this recording and i've got on the floor reporting on some of the news from simpsons thanks to my travels this month uh it was a mix it was a mix of like travels and uh and quarantining this month for for both of us really it was really truly the best of times and the worst of times oh yeah we both yeah or the blurst of times also the blurst of times as well uh but yes last night had the fox had the premiere of season 34 habeas tortoise in which homer uh falls for a q anon

style conspiracy unfortunately uh with my current setup here i did not i was not able to watch it but henry i know you watched uh this episode yeah the the first thing this morning on hulu i i gave it a watch and it was uh an interesting season premiere uh it was written by one of their newest writers brody gupta who's a funny twitter person who who is also like younger than us and a funny internet person but the the idea came from i believe matt selman because he talked about it at d23 and i'll get into that later but he it was inspired by q anon and similar conspiracy theories and some might not like that i think he wanted to come to it from a slightly empathetic point of like why why do people fall into q anon style conspiracy theories because people are lonely and feel stupid and and disliked in the

world and they want like some sense of community and sometimes they find it with uh you know other crazy people yes basically just uh doing a big larp with people that's essentially what q anon is so homer is looking for like this uh tortoise that vanished from the zoo and he falls into uh a online conspiracy theory group with a bunch of other people and they uh kind of all lose it i won't give away the whole thing but an interesting thing is that gil makes a love connection in the episode it's it's so funny though also this is an episode i i mean i think i say it every time i watch a new one but Gil makes a love connection in the episode. It's funny. Though also, this is an episode I, I mean, I think I say it every time I watch a new one, but Julie and Dan both, I don't know why, they sound a little older than usual, I have to say.

I think these complaints that we have are aging more than they are, though, unfortunately. Yes, yeah, it's old to say it was it was a fine little episode disney is uh i guess they they used an ai to recreate james earl jones's voice in uh whatever new star wars thing they're doing so i feel like that is the future of these voice actors they've recorded hundreds of hours of uh their voices every possible emotion every possible syllable and word uh i don't think there will be a recasting i think we're going to be dealing with ais of our favorite uh cartoon actors for the rest of our lives after they pass yeah i think we were too uh hopeful thinking that it would just be as simple as and they got a new actor like they do with you know jiminy cricket or whatever but yeah all these people have been recorded in modern times enough that they can just be re-recorded like you know

james earl jones he's 91 he's you know not has the best health and i think he just instead of recording himself even from his bed he's just like look pay me whatever it was disney paid him and i'll allow you to just have an ai copy my voice and like match up with somebody like if you watch the obi-wan show and hear some of the lines darth vader says in it uh you could probably find the flaws if you wanted to but it is pretty impressive in in a horrible horrible way uh how how much it sounds like him hey when i'm 91 i want the the ai to do the podcasting for me i'm sure we'll come up with all the same opinions and then i can just lay in my bed and uh

you know just count the ceiling tiles until it's time to check out you know 20 to 30 years from now i i guess the the tech disney has will be public and so we could we could use it ourselves instead of doing podcasts when we're in our 60s or 70s if you can spot the differences listeners uh so moving on here uh so season 33 that was the previous season of course of the simpsons arrives on disney plus and on october 5th i'm in canada it's already here folks because canada has the better disney plus because they don't have hulu so if you're in canada you have access but hey americans you're going to get the 21 new episodes on disney plus on october 5th and there are some good ones in there yeah they really are they really are like the uh compliment to our pal the real jims his video on praising the pixelated and afraid episode

was really a really great video I guess you've seen it too Bob I have not seen the video or the episode but I now now that he made the video about it I do want to watch it that should be your first one to watch when you pull up old disney plus yeah i was gonna ask you did we actually talk about the new shorts yet did that launch too late last night it came it came like literally two three days after we recorded the last one so okay yeah i have seen it i just watched it before this uh this podcast recording you probably watched it like a month ago i'm guessing i watched it live at d23 in the same room as matt graining yeah let's get to that news and then we can talk about the short because uh i guess that's where

it premiered uh it actually went up like that morning i think but yeah we were i saved it to cc in the the panel yes yeah yes henry went to d23 d stands for disney 23 uh i don't know what that means but uh like i should know do you know is it like when mickey mouse was uh conceived oh you know i think that was well because they are about to celebrate the 100th uh year of disney as a business okay it was 1923 then i guess but uh yes that's the big disney convention and that's when they announce a bunch of new stuff and there's like new merch there but henry please tell us what that was like and especially the simpsons panel yeah so i you know i haven't been to a con in a while and this is like you know comic con but just for disney

stuff and it is a mix of disney freaks you have the park freaks you have the old animation freaks you have the marvel comic freaks you have star wars freaks and you have i'd say about you know uh 4 000 uh simpsons freaks in the simpsons panel room and my husband had always wanted to go to it and you have to like buy a special pass and everything to do it we didn't buy like the super fancy pass we did pay like a couple hundred bucks i think all told for us to go there but it was a good time and the simpsons panel was fun because so yeah it was hosted by yardley smith you had matt graining al jean david silverman matt selman tim long and did you say carolina mine well so carolina mine was in the crowd and i did get to meet her they

did a bit where people in the crowd ask a cartoon version of Homer questions, and they just basically play a new clip of Homer answering a question, which was fun. That was more fun than the new short, honestly. But Carolyn Omine was one of the people asking questions, and I saw she was sitting, you know, 10 chairs away from me. So afterwards, I said, hey, it's me, Henry. I'm not a psycho. I interviewed you. We're friends. And she's like, oh, hey, nice to meet you. And I, of course, went to it wearing my Genius at Work shirt just in case I was spotted. But it was fun. You know, the funniest thing I'd say was David Silverman was drawing stuff live.

He drew a drawing of Burns hang gliding, Mr. Burns hang gliding. And then he drew a picture of Homer playing the tuba with Spider Pig in the bell of the tuba uh which were very fun drawing and shockingly uh they teased more disenchantment which uh not expecting that actually uh we could admit we'd never watched the fourth uh set of episodes whatever you want to call them i i assume there's a cliffhanger or uh it's something is unresolved uh otherwise i don't understand how there could be more but apparently a graining veryining, very busy guy, Simpsons, Disenchantment, Futurama, and a lot of new little blonde children he's raising as well. He had a good joke that we've both heard before of him saying,

like, you know, the nice thing when you have Futurama and Simpsons going on together at the same time is, if I'm at the Simpsons, I can say, oh, I'm sorry, I can't do that. I got to go to this Futurama office. And if I go to the Futurama office, I say, oh, you know, Simpsons, I got to go to their office their office i can't do it and it's an easy way to dodge work and they said and yes for people who are asking we're working on more disenchantment it's coming is is what he had to

say and uh and also yeah there was about the new short i i just had to say gene was kind of funny because he was in slightly grumpy comic book guy mode i think he actually said two times when he had a grouse he was like a comic book guy moment here but he also said that like james l brooks pitches the shorts ideas which i think maybe that's really the rotten root of the whole thing of it really i think uh yeah i guess we can uh we could talk about i mean it will shock no one that i didn't like the short i didn't really like any of them uh i i hated some more than others this one fairly inoffensive but it does feel that a lot of the joke concepts they're working with are just so old that disney has been playing with them for decades now so number one just the very idea that the disney owning the simpsons is funny

yeah that had about a week shelf life before i was done with it and that was back in 2019 and the fact that they're still doing the what if what if lisa was a disney princess and like imagine the possibilities yes they swerved and she was a villain but it's like no no it's it's actually kind of dark and tragic that disney owns the simpsons and i don't want to think about it and um the appearance of loki i was very upset by that even if they make a joke like oh disney made me appear. It's like, yes, yes. It's very funny that you're being forced to do things.

And then there's a song, which is fine. The animation is very nice. They obviously worked hard on it. And I'll say like the best thing to come out of it are those illustrations at the end, which is kind of the same with every short. It's usually my favorite part too. Yeah. Yeah.

But them doing a bit about how boring Disney princesses are. We just covered beauty and the beast a huge chunk of the movie is kind of about that yeah and uh we have the movie enchanted from 15 years ago they do an entire bit about that that's like a plot point and a lot of the jokes are about boring princes so it's like you guys you can't trot that out again i just wish again these are very old comedic ideas. And it does sound, I mean, James L. Brooks in his 80s, if he's the one pitching these things, you can't say no to him.

Maybe that's why we're seeing these. But I just, I'm sort of demanding fresher comedic ideas. But again, these are promotional shorts. They're not supposed to be like the most clever thing on the planet. They're supposed to be like a platform to advertise other characters. And in that respect, it's successful. But I don't think it's a successful comedic premise or like execution yeah no i i got a few answers to that thing from gene just talking about it and you know with what we know we can read between the lines but like there was some video before the panel about you know walt disney's

blah blah blah like all of that you know uh hero worship bullshit or cult like atmosphere. You get it at Disney thing. And then now Jean was like, you know, our Walt Disney is James L. Brooks. And he said, do a short where Lisa becomes a princess. And Jean seemed to indicate that they tried pitching that and they thought that was pretty boring. So they thought it'd be more fun if she became a villain and they did a song. And so I do think this would have been more boring if she was like hanging out with snow white and ariel perhaps but and and also i felt really in touch with al jean at that panel because i'm watching it and you know in the song the villains are singing about doing villain things and cruella deville shoots fire from her hands and burns some house or whatever and i watched it thinking like corral deville does not have magic powers she cannot shoot fire from her hands and al jean said that immediately

after it was over he's like a comic book guy corral deville does not shoot fire from her hands i was like oh see i'm at least i agree with you there but then it's like but then why is it in there then if you know it's wrong like yeah he should have been in that shorts room and and as usual i i we always have to say but i do mean this like david silverman works really hard on the with his animators i think works really hard on a thing that you know it's not his pitch and he mentioned this great thing that they've had uh we talked about her just recently on rescuers down under and other stuff kathy zalinski a very underrated animator from the renaissance era of disney who

still is working and has been animating on simpsons for years now silverman made a point to get zielinski to animate ursula because she animated the best ursula bits in poor unfortunate souls so he wanted her to be the ursula animator for this and so you know that's that's another of those things where it's like man their heart's in the right place. And I really like that. But yeah, it could have been better. It could have been better. And there's going to be more of them. But yes, they can only be less bad than some of the others.

I don't think they can ever truly be good unless they just say, hey, let's make a short not about something Disney owns, which they're not ever going to do that. That seems unlikely. I mean, we pointed out Disney does not own Billie Eilish, but she has a deal with them which is why her concert is on disney plus so this is all this these are all just commercials for things so i mean they got a bts special on disney plus i wonder if they're getting them next for the simpsons i would not be surprised i would not be surprised by that so yes that's our review of the short and uh also at D23, Henry, he broke the news about new Troy McClure Super 7 action figures. They're all of some of the best shorts within the show. So we have the Fuzzy Bunny short version of Troy from Bart's Friend Falls in Love.

We have the Troy from Meet and You Partners in Freedom from Season 7. And then we have Troy from, I believe, the final Troy McClure short, Someone's in the Kitchen with DNA. No, that's like the second to last one. It's one towards the end. And that's from Lisa Simpson, correct? Yes, yeah.

The last one is the bird one. Right. Yeah. Part the mother. And all three come with an accompanying character. Fuzzy Bunny himself with the fuzzy bunny model and then uh for you have jimmy or billy whichever one it is from from those partnered with him too and they're they're of the style of the mcbain figures so they're not as hyper articulated or

specialized as you know the really fancy ones they've done of like poochie and crusty that's coming soon but it's it's really great and honestly the the box art for it uh just look at the graphics uh they're by bill morrison and he did a very very good job as as he always does on it it looks it looks great yeah i feel like you're you're destroying the sanctity of that figure if you open the box but that's why you got to buy two of them yes and i know they're pretty expensive so if you can afford to go for it but yeah those are really cool i i think i was the first person to tweet about him i saw him on the on the display i was like wait i didn't see these announced but i'm not a mega toy guy toys get announced all the time i didn't hear of but

then i looked on twitter and i swear i was the first person to tweet about it uh if if not one of the first well as long as none of the troy mcclure figures are smoking they're completely fine uh yeah no i saw the yeah i got to see the crusties and mr teenies with smoke-free hands the the children are safe from the cigarettes yeah they'll never see a smoker now famous famous role model crusty the clown uh so moving on to more cartoon news the fox network boss says simpsons family's guy and bobs burgers renewals are underway the talks for them rather duncanville is canceled but i read it more into this article surprising surprising renewals like uh housebroken we're all watching that right uh that that is getting a season two and i feel like it's sort of a duncanville situation where

duncanville was not a hit it was not really getting a lot of buzz but they're like let's give you 13 more episodes and see what happens and i think that's what's happening with this well i think bless the hearts was kind of the same way where it's just like let's let's give you another season and see if people discover this show and i feel like that is what's going on with housebroken because i've never seen a tweet about it i've never seen um i've never talked to a person who's seen it it's never shown up in a discord anywhere so somebody has to be watching this but uh i guess fox believes in it but i did notice that like dan harman is getting his 43rd show on tv is crapopolis though or crapopopolis the the is that the nft show as well like because one was

supposed to have a matching blockchain stuff with it too i recall i think that's more of a justin roiland thing maybe dan harman's on but crapopolis is uh a greek uh animated animated comedy about ancient greece created by dan harman it's going to be the first animated show primetime show that fox fully owns fully owns wow yes uh because now i guess uh anything they own in the past is uh now disney's property so uh it's funny they have to negotiate with disney to renew family guy and the simpsons and bob's burgers but now they're developing their own things that they will wholly own uh themselves and crepopolis is the first one, apparently. So I did remember correctly, July of this year, they talked about it still, that you'll have an opportunity to purchase and collect crap chickens during the show. Great.

NFTs that unlock exclusive utility and social media clout according to the article so that that's very that's very tragic i wanted to think it was just uh justin roiland who was into that but i guess uh it's harman as well they're both tesla owners so you know he needs he needs more self-driving cars oh god man that yeah again it's like that was a fun night but i still think about like we paid money to listen to dan harman brag about his new self-driving tesla uh my love affair with dan harman is over unfortunately i you know i i feel bad about dunganville though because yeah i see they they like had five episodes that didn't even air on fox they just get burned off on hulu it's it's really too bad yeah hey that got two seasons and uh mike scully he's he's still working on the simpsons and stuff

so i think he's gonna be just fine i think i think mike scully's gonna be okay kids so moving on unfortunately i reference this up front but uh a king of the hill revival won't be happening on fox and uh i mean if it does come back it won't be on the network i'm feeling it is coming back but they said oh we want to develop new things. Of course, King of the Hill is part of our legacy. But I think it's more like they want to own the things they're making. They don't want to lease King of the Hill to put on their network. They want to fully own it.

So that's why they're not interested. I mean, it would immediately be viewed by like five times the people as any new show but i assume a new show would just be more profitable no matter what yeah i mean it's just the dollars and cents of it make you know it's like yeah do they invest millions and millions in hosting a show they don't own that didn't really you're just making a disney thing more profitable instead of a thing you own like i get that but though i would think if they partnered a king of the hill revival with a newer show maybe it could give it a boost like there'd be benefits to it but i just again this is why i keep thinking like oh is simpson's really going to get renewed for that

35th season which now we're in the talk time that's that was how i came upon the other article but you know that guy says the negotiations are going on but yeah if the fox networks is like yeah we don't want more king of the hill it does make me wonder about about simpsons too yeah i i just feel like with king of the hill it's still such a part of the cultural zeitgeist you see you still see memes about it all the time uh that was not true of beavis and butthead and that came back like there were not a lot of beavis and butthead memes but like every day on twitter i'll see someone posting a clip or someone photoshopping uh like a frame of the episode i just feel like people are still talking about it and people uh love our mini series too so you know i feel like we're all just waiting and it's been almost 13 years since this went off the air so i

think i think it's time i think so too yeah and in more news uh simpsons veteran writer tim long is going to be show running the bloom county series for fox if you don't know bloom county series if you don't know what bloom county is rather classic newspaper comic one of the best ones ever uh i was looking into the history of this because i was a bloom county fan uh and i bought the books as a kid even though i didn't get a lot of the jokes because it was about very contemporary stuff from the 80s so like bloom county ran from 80 to 89. And then it came back as a Sunday comic, I think called Outland.

Yeah, yeah, Outland, yeah. And then that went away. But then in 2015, Bloom County came back. And it's been back ever since. But it feels like an odd choice to make, an odd thing to make a show into now of all times. Yeah. But because it feels so attached to the time it was created.

But, you know, I'm kind of interested and I want to see what they do with it. into now of all times yeah but because it feels so attached to the time it was created but you know i'm kind of interested and i want to see what they do with it there was the one christmas special they made in the 90s yeah the wish for wings that work which i remember it made me like sad like uh like good christmas specials do but i was like oh this is kind of a bummer you know yeah and uh if you want to see people making fun of trump in the 80s and what they're making fun of him for he is all over the original bloom county comics of Trump in the 80s and what they're making fun of him for, he is all over the original Bloom County comics. Like all of the 80s villains. Like, hey, kids, do you want to see comics about Leona Helmsley?

Well, there's about eight weeks of them in Bloom County and like Tammy Faye Baker and things like that. That's what I associate those comics with the most. So I don't know what the show is going to be about, but they got Tim Long and he's been writing tv comedy for like 25 years so it could be good i as a kid my bloom county experience was having unironic enjoyment of bill the cat who was invented to be a joke about garfield but then it got actually popular but as a kid in the 80s i didn't see the irony of it i was like yeah it's bill the cat he's cool i mean obviously i like opus more because he is like a little tubby sad sack which i i always love those types of guys so but yes it feels 30 years uh removed from the one animated special i got it's a long time to wait to make a bloom

county series i'm just glad that uh the creator is allowed to work again after mars needs moms that that was his doing well he wrote the original storybook that disney adapt was it disney yeah disney adapted that into a terrible movie but you know don't blame that on him no no i i yeah you know i haven't thought about that movie in a long time until our our all our pals of podcast the ride run blank check talking about the the pinocchio movie and mars needs mom came up on that as well i was like oh yeah that that gigantic mess very very disgusting and in our final bit of news here uh apparently the website crack still exists yes the fool me but uh they do still exist and they published a recent uh oral history about homer's barbershop

quartet some fun facts came out of this that i don't think were on the commentary including jeff martin admitting the writer of the episode jeff martin he admitted that in high school he was in a barbershop quartet oh that's yeah he was probably too ashamed to do it uh in the in the room with his on the commentary with hank azaria is on that one he's like well i'm gonna admit in front of this movie star that i was a dork in a barbershop quartet as a kid. This guy is in Along Came Pauly in theaters this fall. Yeah, I got to give respect to Brian Van Hooker, the author of that article, the oral history on Homer's barbershop quartet.

Because, yeah, some stuff we already knew, including like I believe it was Daily Simpsons a few years ago hosted the demo tapes that the jeff martin did for the episode but this dug up one of the four dapper who sang and had jim campbell to tell his side of the story of being cast for it and all that and and apparently there was some thing of like they fired all the guys in the dapper dance around that time except for him and did like a youthful refresh of the dapper dans but apparently jim campbell still is among the dapper dans today you know the next time i go to disneyland and see the dapper dans i'm gonna uh see if it's the real jim if he's there i'll be like jim jim and obviously in the in the oral history as well he straight up says no we still don't sing baby on board it's not allowed in disneyland but he did mention disney

owns the song now so it could happen there's nothing lewd about it it's a sweet song it's a very sweet song and by the way i was not just being snarky about cracked i know a bit about cracked uh the behind the scenes because one of the original writers for the website robert evans hosts the podcast behind the bastards and he talks a lot about the plate of cracked where it was an extremely successful website but it did what every website did 10 years ago pivoted to video and destroyed it and all the original writers were fired even though it was a very successful popular website that everyone talked about and linked to it's insane to think of that like they would have when we were both in in the article writing biz you know cracked would do this big

thing of showing off on their site, like, page views. Like, this has, like, two million views, this thing. Like, they would keep their, or at least a version of their traffic public. And I knew our traffic. I was like, wow, we rarely hit the kind of numbers they hit on their regular articles. And I'm trying to write articles like them, but this, you know, I couldn't it on the their kind of view count and to know that it's such that the answer of why it's not that anymore is simply they were lied to by facebook like everybody and and a bunch of assholes like we'd make more money if on an adult playing on a two

minute video than an article and they didn't make any of that money and fired everybody it's it's terrible to know the same thing that happened to us happened to every possible kind of website we were not alone uh in that decade um but yes uh at least cracked is still out there doing some pretty good stuff so check out the oral history of homer's barbershop quartet now as for our news we have big big news to kick off our little news segment here because we're going to be announcing uh the fall 2022 miniseries right now because what we're going to be doing in the fall of 2022 is more episodes of blabbing about batman the animated series so uh the plan is we're going to announce the episodes we've chosen and we've already chosen them we're going to announce them

later this month and then they will start on november 11th and run weekly until the end of the year so there's going to be eight new episodes of blabbing about batman the animated series and we're very very excited uh like i'm the dawn of the fall season is approaching and i'm getting into a batman mood and it's never felt more right the fall is the perfect time for batman yeah you know we had we just had so much fun doing batman last year that you know and and both of us had episodes were like ah man if we have to limit it to you know the the episodes we did last year we're leaving out so many but we we had to pick and choose now we can do more of those and it was so easy for me and bob to come up with the episodes

we wanted to do like like that you know and uh we had been tinkering with other ideas uh for for the miniseries and and i know folks in the discord have been chatting about it too but like this is just such a simple direct idea and then continuation of it like it just made the most sense naturally to us too yes uh i mean we understand if you're disappointed that there won't be a vote but uh to be completely honest with everybody out there the batman miniseries was extremely popular we heard about it more than most of the other miniseries we've done that was a big influence on why we decided to do it also henry and i are doing a lot more traveling this fall uh which makes this an easier choice for us it's still going to be a lot of work to do eight episodes but we've already done the groundwork

for it so it'll be more efficient for us to do it this way and also unfortunately this year we lost about 20 days of recording time so we're not really behind on recordings but we're not as free as we normally are around this time of the year so uh these are the the main influences on this decision but i think you're going to enjoy the eight episodes that we chose for this this round of uh batman episodes yes yeah and it'll be at the just like before at the five dollar level along with we're still doing talking the hill and talking futurama to each of those in november and december as well as the weekly batmans going up that month too yeah so for eight weeks out of the year for

the final eight weeks of the year you'll get three new episodes a month uh sorry three episodes a week rather and a lot of episodes per month so that's our uh plan uh let us know if you have any questions but again um we will announce those episodes uh within the next couple of weeks probably by mid to late october you'll know before the episodes go live you'll be we'll let you know far in advance and you can start getting excited about what we're choosing and we've got some good ones, some returning villains, some new ones, some weird stories, a good mix, just like last time. So that is our big news for this. As for our regular schedule, let's talk about what's happening there.

And so our What a Cartoon episode for October is going to be Tengen Tapa Gurren Lagann. And it's going to be the episode Simon Hands Off. And that's episode 11. And this is brought to you by our um great patron devin he sponsored plenty of episodes in the past this is his newest episode and henry and i uh we love studio trigger we have established love for the series and it is like nearly a three-hour episode about this one episode of the anime because we have to talk a lot about studio gynex uh studio trigger and the series director hiroyuki imaishi who is a major massive talent that uh

we needed to devote a lot of time to uh what he's done and just how amazing he is yeah yeah we we have so much great fun talking about gurn laga and also you know i i can't not do long run on sentences about evangelion as well when talking about that so probably i inflated the the runtime of that by about 10 minutes just saying like, and you know, this compares to Evangelion like this, but it was a lot of fun. But yes, that is our October episode. It's about an anime that we really recommend

and it's viewable on almost everything except for Netflix. I mean, it's very, very easy to find and watch. And of course we have our normal episodes of Talking Futurama and Talking to the Hill. Talking Futurama is going to be about uh the 30 iron chef we have reached the end of futurama production season three folks we've made a lot of progress into the fox run and yes this is the uh iron chef parody and it's a good one it's a great one i didn't think i liked this one as much as i

ended up liking it uh this time around so we had a lot of fun with that and the talking the hill episode is going to be about peggy's turtle song a fun mother's day episode that uh it's it's more of peggy coming into her own as as the character that we love and uh guest star unexpected guest star on king of the hill annie defranco so we talk a lot about her and who she is and how she ended up on the same show that willie nelson did so yeah that is the king of the hill episode for october and guess what guys we're going to be ending the year with uh the propane boom two-parter the megalomar explosion in the fallout we didn't time it that way but that's the perfect way to end the years with part one and part two wrapping up season two starting season three of king of the hill uh and

our what a cartoon movie for october this is the month of transforming robots unfortunately we have no halloween content for you this month but we are doing two transforming robot shows so we start the month with gurren lagann we end the month with the transformers the movie from 1986 uh and this is henry's time to shine because i i've seen almost zero transformers content and i am looking forward to seeing this uh just for the sheer animation value alone. Yeah, no, I have been wanting to do this one for such a long time. We're skipping doing a regular episode about G1 Transformers. We're going straight to the main event of the movie. I have already finished all my notes on the history for it.

It is such an interesting history on how this movie was made. If you know the behind the scenes, it is a lot of complicated and bad uh business decisions some actors final movies like it's it's really really interesting and of course you know if you if you watched it as a kid uh some parts of it is stuck with you forever and uh it's it's it's it's what made you a transformers fan on some level for the rest of your life so yeah i can't can't wait to talk about that we're're going to record it soon when Bob gets back and yeah, it'll be the end of this month as the next What a Cartoon movie. And then for the What a Cartoon movie for November, we're having a yes, no vote for Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol. It is the first televised Christmas special,

and it's a great adaptation of A Christmas Carol. And if you want to hear us talk about the history of, you know, TV Christmas specials and Mr. Magoo and UPA and everything that goes into this, please vote yes. And yeah, we've covered so many notable Christmas specials so far. I feel like this, the first one is an important one to cover because Mr. Magoo is not the best one. It's still entertaining, but it was the first one. Yeah, we've covered a lot of the first,

but not the very first of the tv specials and yeah it's got so many great songs it's it's a favorite of mine too so i hope you guys uh vote yes on that poll and now it's time for us to talk about what we've been playing and watching that's not related to podcasting and uh not a whole lot because this month was busy for me for a lot of good and bad reasons so splatoon 3 3 came out, of course, and I'm loving the hell out of that. Splatfest was this weekend. I was too busy to play in it. But Splatoon 3, a very high quality game. If you like Splatoon 1 and 2, it's kind of the same thing, but better, you know, a better quality of life improvements. I just I'm really enjoying it. So Splatoon 3, not much more to say about it. Return to Monkey Island came out. There'll be a new Retronauts

about that. Me and my wife Nina will be on it together. So that's launching on Retronauts on October 3rd for patrons and a week later for people on the free feed. So yes, I'll be talking a lot about that game for 90 minutes to two hours. So I won't say anything more about it here. And I'm also playing everything I mentioned last month. And I dipped my toe into Yakuza 2 Kiwami just because I was just getting the mood for a Yakuza game and i have all of them and i still need to play most of them and um yes a very good remake i played zero i played kiwami one kiwami two is made with uh the dragon engine so it's made with the same engine as uh like a dragon and yakuza 6 so it's very very very well made and pretty but um only touch that a little

bit i'll go back to it when i have more time and uh yeah as far as watching stuff not a lot of movies i i watched uh teenage mutant ninja turtles 1990 literally the same day we recorded our last talk to the audience so i didn't talk about it at all oh okay and i think uh nerds of the time nerds our age uh might overrate the movie a bit because the bar for a good turtles movie is very low there are still some very strange choices in the movie that uh don't didn't sit right with me as a kid and don't sit right with me now like they made donatello michelangelo kind of the same guy and it's just really weird to have uh a donatello with like this skeezy cory feldman voice that's not a guy who does machines no no no uh it i i

think it's the best movie they could have made because it's essentially an indie movie that could afford to rent muppets but um as far as far as the scale of like it compared to the idea of other movies it's like a pretty average movie but it still is the best turtles movie but i it was nice to know like all the things that annoyed me as an eight year old like why did they change that why is that different still as a 40 year old i was like well yeah they didn't need to change all these things but isn't it shocking to hear wrath say damn you know what i noticed every every turtle in the movie says damn except for leonardo they're all good boy yeah they're all damning it up it's like that's the one swear word they got in the movie so they made sure every turtle says damn uh i know i can get it back then it

he's gone sorry i feel weird kevin clash uh i feel weird doing the voice kevin clash does for splinter actually it's one of those things that stuck in my mind. And I told Nina, my wife, that as I am fading away, as I die, what I'm going to hear in my brain is, four baby turtles. That line reading is insane. And I don't know why it sticks with me. I can just, if I just focus, I could just hear it echoing in my brain. Kevin Clash in that slightly offensive accent. I also saw Lady Bird for the first time have you seen this movie henry no i i actually haven't it seems good right really good uh very shortened to the point it's a 90 minute movie which i appreciate

it could have been much longer and even though lady bird is a woman obviously uh three years younger than me i i very much identified with the main character it's like a main character only one friend a weirdo living in the suburbs uh an economically uh disadvantaged family and the mother is a nurse this is like my life on the screen wow uh but it's very good it's very charming it didn't blow me away or anything but it's a very it's a very cute little movie uh and it's it's very good. It's very charming. It didn't blow me away or anything, but it's a very cute little movie. And it's like the authentic late 90s, early aughts teen experience. And you'll think about being a teen and you'll be very embarrassed about like lethal weapon uh because it's one of those things and another movie on my list is like that too where it's like well i know all the parodies i played police knots uh it's a weapon one it's it's it's good it's a good movie it didn't blow me away but uh i don't need to tell you about lethal weapon

it's it's very fun uh are we getting close to the age of murtaugh now each of us like when his is too old for this shit age? I think so. I think he's playing older in the movie. He's turning 50. But I think Danny Glover was like in his early 40s at that point. But it's funny to hear Mel Gibson fight in his Australian accent. Every inch of that movie is like a struggle against that Australian accent.

So that's fun to hear. I saw Guys and Dolls, the the musical for the first time i'm not opposed to musicals i didn't think it was very good and everyone agrees with me that marlon brando uh absolutely miscast as was uh frank sinatra they they stink up the movie especially marlon brando singing um the entire movie is a long drive to the luck be lady tonight factory and then marlon brando just pisses the song down his leg it's it's really embarrassing there's i mean the choreography is good there's some good numbers in there but overall i was like boy i i wish the movie was cast differently and it would

have been much better um you should see a stage production of guys and dolls not watch that movie now i want to now i want to also i do love the line that Marlon Brando, the only thing I remember about the movie I haven't watched in a long time is when Marlon Brando says, if somebody bets you that when they open this pack of cards that it'll spit ink in your face and you are certain that that couldn't possibly happen, don't take that bet because that guy knows more than he's letting on. I was like, you know, it's a good way of talking about

like you're about to get conned kind of thing i like that saying i mean marlon brando was good uh as an actor in the movie but when he started singing i was just like oof this is this reminds me of like a critic gag or something uh there was also one song in the movie where i was like god i know it's 1955 this song has too much innuendo in it and it's one that they added for the movie where all it's like a it's like a it's like a show girl number and all the girls are in like cat costumes and it's very embarrassing and the lyrics are like men need to treat their pussies right and give them milk and it's like all right guys i know what you're talking about all right this is really embarrassing i forgot that part it's like men need to pet their pussies it's just like okay okay let's end this song

i'm embarrassed for all of you and myself so speaking of movies that i didn't never saw that i never saw in the past um because i'm like i've seen the parodies i saw rocky for the first time uh i didn't realize how little boxing there is in the movie um much more of the movie is about feeding turtles than it is about boxing that's uh yeah did did uh did it make you want to watch more of the rockies yes i think i think nina and i are going to go through the rockies now we're going to tour the rockies and it's funny like uh so the movie starts with like a lot of uh rocky feeding his turtles and then the movie forgets about the turtles towards the end i'm like what happened to the

turtles and i looked it up and apparently those turtles have lived with sylvester stallone for the past nearly 50 years in 2019 he posted an instagram like video about them it's like oh look cuff and link are still alive and and they're they're doing great folks so amazing the turtles from rocky he he kept them and they survived so that that's what i cared about the most is like what what if what if the fate of the turtles the rocky movies i i really enjoy a lot of them. Even the Creed movies, I really enjoy because Michael B. Jordan rules. But to know that Rocky, on some level, was born out of white people hating that Muhammad Ali was so dominant, so they have to make up a fictional white guy to beat up a fictionalized version of Muhammad Ali in a movie, a bit much there.

I can see why it was so successful not just for semi-racist reasons but like every movie from that era was about like everybody's complicated even the heroes are assholes and it was just like oh what if the movie was about a guy who was nice to everybody all the time and he kind of won in his own way and i'm sure that was very refreshing in an era of like the godfather and network and things like that. And the last thing I saw for the first time, truly for the first time as an adult, is the Muppet movie, which I had never seen as an adult. Whenever these movies were on TV when I was a kid, and I mentioned this in our Muppet show podcast, I was like, oh boy, an entire movie about the Muppets? And then like 15 minutes in, I'd be like, this movie is 43 hours long and I am so bored.

And I will say as an adult, I thought with this movie, it is like a 70s movie with Muppets and that the pacing is very like swimmy and languid. And the director doesn't really understand the humor that well, because there's like so much air in all of these gags that should be a lot snappier and shot with more like quick cuts but like it just feels a bit off but the the songs in in the general filmmaking is very good and there's like four really good songs in it and especially um the gonzo song still is like a heartbreaker even though the movie absolutely does not earn it you're like okay now the chicken fucker is gonna be very wistful and you're like i moved more than than seeing a sunset the man who fucks

chickens he wants to go back there one day uh but yeah uh very very moving and like just like with the muppet show now that i'm 40 i i recognize every cameo uh i'm sure when i was a kid i was like what are these stupid humans doing get to the muppets but it's like oh bernadette peters uh and uh richard pryor's in this and um so many other people like orson wells and uh yeah it's just brooks and mel brooks yes thing i i was not expecting was basically uh no brooks playing the the dr mengela for muppets like yes playing a Nazi doctor who experiments on Muppets and only in 1979 folks. Yes. Yeah.

That's it's, it actually is pretty shocking. And then it leads to like, you know, the payoff of the movie. I've, I've seen it a lot, uh, as, as an adult, it was only a few times ago when I watched it that I really got other parts of it, which was, I had seen the Muppet movie after I'd seen, I saw Muppet Takes Manhattan first as a kid it is so much of a technical leap forward for their puppetry that I didn't realize that the Muppet movie which looks you know less technically sophisticated as Takes Manhattan Muppet movie supposed to be showing off stuff they could never do on the show like Piggy's

giant fight scene in that section for one thing you know or just seeing kermit on a bicycle once you've seen manhattan where they all ride a bicycle together like just uh just kermit on a bike you're like okay sure yeah they're all riding bikes that all their mouths are moving i noticed that you know this movie is all about showing those feet because you know if you can see a muppet foot they're working really hard to to sell the illusion so like fozzie and kermit are on stage dancing there's lots of like kermit's a freestanding kermit in scenes it's right it's very odd i don't like the lower half of fozzie's body i'd rather not see it it's very it's kind of strange oh and he shakes his hips on the stage that is it's a little upsetting yeah yeah nothing but air inside that thing. So, yeah.

Oh, oh, I forgot. I saw Repo Man as well. I didn't like it. Have you ever seen Repo Man? I saw it a while ago. I remember I loved Harry Dean Stanton in it. I really liked him, and he does a great job acting. But I didn't, like, love it.

Yeah, he's really good in it. I feel like the appeal of that movie came at a time when there weren't a lot of weird movies where people swore a lot. So it's like, oh, you got to see Repo Man. It's so fucking cool, man. But I feel like there's so many of those kind of movies now and they're so easy to access that Repo Man doesn't really stand out. You know, it was the crust punks that I knew in high school and college. They love the show, the movie, because, I mean,ilio's character is pretty much uh them or what they aspire to be yeah so i'm sorry if that uh shows you i'm a normie but not not a repo man fan

other news about me so you know i was feeling kind of bored and i love new experiences so i thought i should get covid i wonder what that's like uh so i had covid for about a little over a week uh yeah so i got covid uh i went to PAX West. We were very safe, for the most part. I did my panel fully masked, as I was supposed to. But you're around tons of people in Seattle, and people coming in from all over the place. And yes, I did get COVID. I thought it was just a regular cold, because that's happened during COVID. And I was testing frequently. In fact, I recorded the Beavis and Butthead do the universe podcast while I was feverish with COVID. And I didn't think it was. So I'm happy Henry did not get infected. I'm happy my wife didn't get infected.

But I was basically like flat on my ass for a week. And that's essentially going back to the Batman plan. We did lose about 20 days in 2022 between Henry's COVID and my COVID. So I'm part of the COVID club now and not not recommended but i will say that i had like the best possible version of covid and the best possible time because henry was on a trip there were no recordings planned for the most part i didn't get any like of the severe covid symptoms like i didn't get the brain fog or the shortness of breath or anything like that it was just like aches and fever for about a week uh that wasn't fun but i'm happy i didn't get long covid or anything like that so that was not a good time but I was very fortunate well and same with the you got to enjoy the the

wonderful taste of Pax Livid as well yeah it's like it's like walking through a fine mist of hairspray for a week just like licking it up but yeah I'm again I'm lucky enough that we can take as much time off as we need to with our self-employed job so yes I'm very fortunate in that respect but it still sucked uh but i've learned nothing so i am going to be a portland retro gaming expo uh next or this month in october so come see me and my panel you're going to hear more about it via twitter and whatnot but it's happening the saturday of portland retro gaming expo 11 a.m i'm doing a panel there uh come come there say hi, and I'll be there. But don't give me COVID. I've already had it. It's bad luck to get it twice. But yeah, that's basically it.

Yeah, COVID stunk. But I played a ton of games while just motionless on the couch. And that's the best that came out of it. It's just I got to play a lot of video games. You know, for my month, I've been playing a lot of one game, and that is yakuza zero though now i guess me and you should both start i mean the name of it is yakuza zero but from now on it's like a dragon that's the english name for it from now on that's right there was a recent announcement and then they're bringing over some of the older games or at least one of them and it's like well now it's

like a dragon so i'll get used to it you know it was yakuza you like a dragon was the name of the seventh game and then a tokyo game show this um year month they announced the remake of the one set in the the you know samurai era and then two new games and they're all called in english the title is like a dragon no more yakuza title so yeah i think ryu ga gotoku is literally like a dragon in that's what the translation is and that's what the games are always called in japan Yeah, I think Ryu Ga Gotoku is literally like a dragon. That's what the translation is. That's what the games are always called in Japan. Yeah, I know why they called them Yakuza in America,

because it is like they're trying to sell it to GTA fans. Like that was there until they finally realized we can just sell this to weebs and make a profit. We don't need to give this to GTA fans. It's funny. There's been about eight Yakuza releases between GTA games too. It's like, well, now there's a shortage of these GTA games. People need something to play.

But yeah, Yakuza 0, I'm back in the story now, but when I unlocked the Hostess Club in it, I played that to completion for eight hours. Oh, me too. Yeah, it's so good. It's so fun. And also i i played a bit of defense grid i hadn't played that in a while but i i opened up defense grid i just was looking for another thing to listen to to play while listening to podcasts and i played a bunch of old pac-man

games because they were on sale on xbox and it's like you can get a thousand achievement points from miss pac-man like it's it's amazing they actually give you that much and and of course i'm playing a ton of pikmin bloom still uh we're still uh me me you nina and our pals we're we're doing the community stuff every week together well hey they just announced pikmin 4 is literally actually that's right coming for real so I feel like there could be a slate boost in Pikmin Bloom players because of that I'm so happy they're doing I playing Pikmin 3 on the Switch version I was like god this game is really good I can't wait for more of this now I'd yeah I totally forgot that that there was a really good Nintendo Direct

this month with like a brand new I don't want to go play by play through it but that it started with a fire emblem trailer that looked like i was like is this another warriors game or is this a real one and then at about a minute in they show a grid and i was like yes all right this is a real fire emblem game uh fire emblem engage i'm looking forward to that and and of course the breath of the wild too now has a title as well the uh uh like tears of the something oh tears of the kingdom because that's why tears tears tears yes because the queen died what you know they died the day after my birthday and that's why in the uk version they didn't stream it because they worried it could be seen as as offensive to to

like who honestly like who cares i don't give a fuck about the queen i got that they're gonna have to wait until there's a new queen to release uh tears of the kingdom um because uh you know we're still waiting for that advanced wars uh the boot camp to launch yeah there's no more war on this earth then we're allowed to play it but you know there'll still be a call of duty every year no matter what no matter what's happening i i am mad at that putin for uh for canceling my advance wars that's the only only otherwise he's great but i know i i can't okay but for watching stuff bob was mr movies this month i actually i don't think i watched a full film this month i watched so much tv

pick of the month actually is cyberpunk edge runners because after we did the girl on i was like oh well the you know trigger just with him directed by imaishi just did a new special on netflix and it's 10 episodes set in the it's a spin-off to the video game a tie-in to cyberpunk 2077 it is way better i my husband i watched him play like four hours of it i was like plus i didn't give a shit about that game but the the anime is a lot of fun it reminds me of the ultra violent cyberpunk ovas of our of our youths bob it's it's a lot of fun yeah i wish it was called something else because that brand is just so such poison it just associated with so much misery like that game came out during covid wish it was called something else because that brand is just such poison. It's just associated with so much misery.

Like that game came out during COVID and it was one of the worst launches ever. It was and people killed themselves to make it too. It was so much misery went into making a bad product. Apparently now it's this anime is causing it to get popular again. Like people are a bunch of people who skipped it before. Now, honestly, honestly you know 18 months later maybe it's finally a good game you know maybe it's finally balanced and works right the most i'd ever seen of the game is people buying it like in november of 2020 and making their penis

with the character creator and that's all that's all i ever saw of the game and also all the bugs also all of the horrible bugs yeah you know you know, it's also been impressive watching Edgerunners. There is actual sex and nudity and heads exploding, just like those old extreme OVAs of the 80s and 90s. And yeah, then I watched the new special on Peacock, Would It Kill You to Laugh? The John Early Caperlant sketch thing. It's really funny if you like awkward comedy uh

between a gay guy and a woman who's half jewish as they brand themselves in the show uh it's it's really funny it's the first time i've turned on peacock in a while i've been watching as as of course i'm told to by disney a she hulk and andor uh they're both good shows they're good i mean more like uh more like blandor is what i say i haven't seen a frame of it i just thought of a fun quip it's a good you know it actually uh is good if you want a thing that actually feels like a prestige tv show and not just a bunch of like references and or is the closest to that i've seen the first three episodes no references to a thing you've seen before it feels more like

episodes of like Breaking Bad or whatever not you know it's it's not that great I'm just saying it's it's pretty good also I watched the rest of the new season of Harley Quinn also really good they do some fun stuff with Bruce Wayne in it that I did not expect and also all of Jojo part six of the new 12 episodes they dropped on Netflixflix netflix has got to go to weekly releases it is making their shows just vanish nobody talks about them like a whole new season uh jojo used to be an event on my twitter every week when it was streaming on crunchyroll now nobody talks about this part six that's on netflix yeah i agree uh i've really enjoyed uh the one the one weekly show i'm watching is the new beavis and Butthead. And it's just like, oh, it's Thursday.

I could watch a new episode of the show I really like instead of staring down the barrel of 10 new episodes and thinking like, I'll get around to this sometime. And then once you watch it all again, it's gone. You're like, all right, well, in 12 to 18 months, I'll maybe get more of this. And same with like Bee and Puppycat. There was a new Bee and Puppycat in years. And then when they finally make a new batch and puppy cat in in years and then when they finally make a new batch they just dump it all and it's really good and it also actually reminds me a bit of evangelion rebuild because it's kind of a remake of the first season and

then there's a new season and then i watched that new lord of the rings show it certainly looks expensive but it's a bit slow i gotta say i don't know anything less of Lord of the Rings uh yeah that's true it's kind of slow is what it does especially in the books uh and uh and I watched the new Rick and Morty season it is really funny you know I wish I wish Rick and Morty didn't attract bad fans because it's a very funny show I can't wait to watch there's an episode written by a Talking Simpsons guest coming soon the by by Heather Ann ann campbell oh cool i'm cool to that and uh and also did you see on heather ann campbell's instagram that she is building an old pizza hut table in her house yes i've seen her her saga of getting the classic stained glass

pizza hut uh hanging lamps uh very very interesting it's amazing to see it yes yes i mean we all have the same fondness for when when pizza hut was good dang it or at least when they pretended to be a real restaurant i don't even know what they are anymore i feel like a pizza hut just a counter now and you get your pizza and you walk away it's a counter in front of an oven and they're like all right or really it's where your you know dasher or whatever picks up your pizza but yeah it's it's like a ghost kitchen now and i finally watched a great season four on on my one of my flights this month and uh it was really good and now you know they just announced the fifth and final season's february so it's uh now that season

you know uh you've watched it bob right the fourth yeah i think i watched it last holiday season because that's when it came out and i i have mostly forgotten about it but it's a lot about uh gretzko and haida yeah yeah i do like it haida is like kind of a a real a real loser in this season who has to get his crap together but then he gets his crap together too much and and break some laws but i remember it being uh a little too cartoony towards the end that that kind of turned me off uh because it should be somewhat grounded in reality despite being about talking animals and one of them becomes an idol for a season but i hope it gets a little more down to earth in the next season but it's the last one so i can do with another season of regrets go and uh and lastly as far as my travels i avoided getting covet a second

time which i couldn't believe when when when we came back from the D 23 trip, I was just feeling kind of tired. My husband, Darren, he got, he was having a cold symptoms and I was like, all right, it's, he's got to have it. It's it's, this is just how it went last time. And we tested ourselves like for five days straight and he never got a positive mean either. And so I guess it really was one of those times was like oh was it cold we thought was covet and now i've gotten my my updated booster and all that so uh i'm feeling more coveted confident than that i had in a while but i was sure i was going to get it on our chicago trip because i wore my mask places no one else seemed to anywhere and especially when i was at the top of the Sears or

the Willis Tower uh in Chicago surrounded by tourists uh in a small you know in an enclosed space and no one's wearing masks and we're all going to the same window box to take our photos of like look how high we are I was just like god there's no way I don't get COVID here but shockingly I did not and, Chicago is a great city. I love it. The only negative I'll say about Chicago is they have such a damn chip on their shoulder. You know, nobody in New York talks about how like, hey, you know what? We're better than Chicago.

Like, they don't care. But in Chicago, they're just like, you know, we have that New York doesn't have. And did you know that technically this building is taller than the one in New York? And I was like, all right, guys. it's like a little brother syndrome or something a bit yeah we can do new york stuff i yeah i think i might even like chicago i mean i've only been to new york for a very short period of time but i've been to chicago more and i did i did really like it and i wasn't always thinking of new york yeah no they both have good good kinds of pizza there you know each city has their own thing.

Chicago, beautiful place. I went to the Willis Tower. Finally, my childhood dream of going to the Sears Tower was fulfilled. And we did a boat tour of the architecture around the Chicago River, which was really cool. And I did eat two types of deep dish pizza. I had the pizza pot pie, which was more of like a bread bowl except the bread bowl soup was cheese and and pizza filling and then the other one i had was giordano's which if you're one of those people who cares about that in in chicago i now rank it number one is

piquads number two is giordano's and number three is lumal nadis which i mentioned that to mike carlson in a over Twitter and he was he was like oh I'm a I'm a Lou Malnati's guy I'm shocked you like uh he he he didn't uh prefer uh that I liked your dynas over Lou Malnati's to doing some food tours in Portland I've not been there in three years I want to go to uh sizzle pie uh get some Pine State biscuits. Go to Apex and play pinball. Ground Control, Quarter World. Portland locals are probably like, disgusting. Why would you go there?

These are the places I like. Please leave your suggestions on Twitter or something. I don't know. I haven't been there in three years. I'd like to know where to go. But that's what's happening in our lives. Let's get the comments. Oh, anything else, Henry?

Well, and also, yes, i went to the aew wrestling show where everything imploded and i was very sad afterwards cm punk lived up to his name he was quite a punk backstage he i got to see the perhaps could be the last time cm punk wrestles so i can always say that but we'll well i guess uh we'll see but yes right now cm punk my favorite wrestler and kenny omega my other favorite wrestler, are suspended because they got in a fight right after the show I watched. A real one. A real one, not a fake one.

And I stayed up all night following the news on it. And it was a rough night coming home from Chicago. Not the happiest birthday for old Henry Gilbert when I turned 40 that I had to think about all this drama. Henry buried the lead. Henry turned 40. So now you're in the older than Homer club and we're feeling it. Yeah. So that was my month.

Let's talk about questions and comments from the last round of episodes. So first we have the Susie Dieter and Lou Morton interviews. We did a week of nonstandard programming in which we did two interviews with simpsons and futurama folks very very good we realize interviews are less popular than regular episodes we ask you to listen to them because they were great interview subjects a lot of fun info came out of them and suzy dieter was especially very candid about her experience in the animation industry as a woman so we really appreciate her telling those stories on our on our show and i hope she definitely she she listened to it and she got back to us and she was really complimentary so

we thank suzy dieter for her time especially and also lou morton but that kamarowski says thank you so much for the frank interview with a talented artist who proves once again that the golden age wasn't so golden and by the way that is talking about the suzy dieter episode that goes on to say as you move away away from the Harvard inner circle jerk and the longstanding risks still in the Simpsons' employ, you're going to find out more and more that industry vets really have come to hate this show. Not saying Susie's interview was this,

but the pendulum definitely swung with it. Someone commented on an old post here that I want to fight the whole industry. I guess someone of Dieter's stature having to peddle for work isn't an indicator as of why. Susie is credited on the disastrous Larry Doyle Looney Tunes shorts, I guess someone of Dieter's stature having to peddle for work isn't an indicator as of why. Susie is credited on the disastrous Larry Doyle Looney Tunes shorts. Understandable that blurred in her memory.

So yes, Thad pointing out that yes, the Harvard writers love working on The Simpsons despite the long hours. Animators, perhaps more of a struggle, especially for women in the 90s yeah yeah and also to hear like as he pointed out suzy dieter mentioned us that like she was looking for work for a bit of time i was like how is an artist so good as she is also like and who's been directing since her 20s like she's looking for work for that long like it seems insane to me but yeah it does feel like the same problem that happens in every industry where it's like no we want someone younger who can pay less and exploit more you uh you know what we're going to do to you and we don't want anyone with your knowledge you know how bad this is going to be so we have to make it worth we'd have to pay you for how bad it's gonna be joe hodgson also said about both interviews good interviews gentlemen

the new beavis and butthead is so good it cannot be stressed enough it's incredible how well it holds up and a pro tip for anyone looking to watch it that doesn't have paramount plus yet you get a year through t-mobile that might still be available and certainly worth checking out hopefully paramount adds more legacy content because their promise of every classic episode complete with the videos on the service has not even come remotely close to being realized that's true and yeah again another recommendation for the new series uh nina and i just watched a few of the newer ones that we had missed and then we watched some of the older ones that were still very funny but in my mind i was like you know what actually this is the one rare instance in which the new show the writing is better than the old show.

I think you're right. Yeah. Oh, and also, you know, our pal Lou Morton, he didn't even mention it in our interview. Maybe the plan hadn't fully come together yet. But based on his tweets, I think they succeeded. They, as a promotional stunt, broke the world record for largest like nacho serving or like plate of nachos ever and made it in Los Angeles. It was like something like almost 5,000 pounds of nachos ever and ate it in in los angeles it was like something like five almost five thousand pounds of nachos i believe so yeah i hope i gave those to the homeless or i

hope they were all consumed because whenever there's a food record it's like oh look at all the food that we wasted yeah i hope i would hope it uh it was eaten by somebody who would appreciate it yeah but again uh check out those interviews uh even if you're not if you don't know who suzy deeter or lou martin are you're going to learn a lot about the shows that you love and their influence on all of your favorite cartoons moving on to a burns of our coffin der kraft work and of course nina was on this thank you nina she's in the room behind me and by the way we want to point out on this episode there's like a really weird uh reuse shot when homer goes oh that's a lot of money it's just like he's in a different room his his tie his his tie is either gone or there i

forget how it works but uh as soon as we asked the question uh i believe it was uh kaylin ramos first identified uh that little shot from simpson nilayla because I think they even like mirrored the shots too. I want to say that's why I couldn't place it because I definitely looked at Simpson and Delilah and like Frinkiac along with all the other stuff. But I think because the image got reversed, I couldn't transpose it when looking at it in it. That's my excuse for missing it. Because normally me and Bob are really good

at finding reused animation sources and especially in in season three of the simpsons but they they tricked us in that one but i i appreciate kaylin ramos for figuring it out being the first two other people commented as well and thank you for that but i want to give credit to the first one to point it out in the comments uh so moving on to Aaron Hardy, who says, I know you said no football comments, but I have to point out that Brownie the Elf is having a pretty big day. First, he gets the honor of trending on Twitter due to being painted on the Browns field, which is probably the first time a lot of the NFL audience is learning he even exists. And now a Talking Simpsons mention.

I have no idea why Cleveland doesn't just license a drawing of a bulldog instead of an elf, but hey. And yeah, I saw this comment and then we were at a bar or something and the Browns game was on. And yeah, Brownie the Elf, huge in the middle of the field. So yeah, it was kind of surreal to mention. I thought it was an obscure fact that Brownie the Elf or this little Brownie character was a mascot. Now he's back, folks. Yeah, I saw Brownie the Elf trending like right around when this episode posted.

And I thought, wait, no, this can't be about us. And then I saw that the news was it got painted onto the field, which is crazy. Yeah. Also on that episode, Renardo Schlegelmilch said, great episode, guys. A few thoughts from a German who grew up

with the episode in a dubbed version the two businessmen speak with heavy accents the skinny one with a berlin accent the other one bavarian so in the scene at the bar where bern speaks german he tries to imitate the berlin accent as does smithers when he repeats the german phrases on tape overall it was weird for us as kids to see this as it was the only time our home country was referenced this heavily in american media we loved it though we felt a bit insulted as well oh and as many people uh said zwei reich typin it means two rich guys you know i used a direct translator and i feel like whoever wrote that on the check or came up with the line just did word replacement because what I fed into the translator should have given me that.

But I was going to say, Renardo Schlegelmilch is German? Yes. I really appreciate this insight from an actual German who grew up watching it in german as well like in deutsch i always wonder with the dubs like that because you know like for example i think i this was in the little mermaid one that in the french dub for little mermaid they changed the uh the frenchman to an italian chef to not insult the french watching it yes it's like who do we hate uh but go with italians sure yeah uh moving on to teen angel and again that we had a weird uh september thanks for rolling with the punches we had interviews we

had a uh podcast about a show you probably never heard of outside of our podcast and it was fun to watch it for the first time and see what a disaster it truly was and we understand why its own creators hate it and uh didn't acknowledge our podcast in any way. Yeah, yeah. You know what? Mike Reese really, he did hit like on my tweet telling people to buy his book and linking to the link of his book. Hey, he knows what's important here. But Matthew Mahoney says, episodes like this are why I subscribe.

I was deep in the TGIF fandom when Teen Angel, You Wish, and a few others premiered. It's the first time I ever remember thinking, I don't think I want to watch this. i lied to myself and came back week after week but it was clear that tgif had hit its expiration date with me but teen angel was so horrible that it stayed with me and i would happily bring it up around fellow tv nerds in college uh and there you have it yes no one was a teenager defender no comments they were either unaware of it or like yeah i watched this and i hated it yes yeah most i i saw it in the discord too a lot of comments saying like i had no memory of this

and then the first clip played and i was like oh wait a minute i remember that i remember that joke like bradford a barker said on the uh in the comments i was one of the few people who watched this show at the time i have no idea there was a simpsons connection the one joke i remember was this exchange between a young character and an old character do you like yasmin bleeth yes i do like having teeth uh which i believe i actually saw that clip that's in the first episode of the reboot uh with uh with jerry van dyke in it it sounds like a grandpa simpson joke yeah yeah really it's exactly a grandpa simpson joke yeah yeah really it's exactly a a grandpa simpson joke yeah they were writing uh mean old people jokes uh for a real old person to say yeah on their show

similar to all of their ugly woman jokes they have an actual living human woman have to embody yeah but uh what a fun set that must have been uh moving on to what a cartoon uh rescuers down under was our movie for august and i have to thank all of our listeners because it's the opposite of Teen Angel. All of our listeners love this movie and we didn't like it, me especially. And I remember before this went live, I saw people on our Discord, I think, saying, oh, they better not say anything mean about this movie. And I was like oh but everyone everyone uh understood why we didn't like it that much even though it's a it's a very interesting technical showpiece for digital animation and things like that and again it's the first fully digital movie period which is crazy uh this weird little sequel so uh harry thornton says it's funny though welcome that modern streaming versions of this film don't replace the old disney logo with the cg one because that logo is according to most online sources i found directed by mike gabriel given how long it's lasted 16 years and counting

and how many films appeared in front of it's by far the most watched piece of animation gabriel has ever directed and harry adds uh that while billy barty did not play an ewok he was in another george lucas production he played the high aldwin basically a wizard in the 1988 fantasy film willow so there you have it yeah that was good because i think i said like oh billy bardy must be at least an ewok in the star wars i was wrong but yes he was i mean if you were a little person actor when they were making willow and you weren't in it you were probably insulted you're like i thought they used all of us in this but uh you were you're one of those blacklisted uh wizard of oz little people that were like grabbing dorothy and not welcome and he said you know what willow's coming

back folks and i don't know how to feel about that because as a kid i liked willow and i remember there's one mystery science theater where like a running joke in the theater is mike saying oh this is worse than Willow. And Crow keeps going, hey, I liked Willow. So as a kid, I was also thinking, is Willow supposed to be bad? But I plan on doing a Willow episode for Retronauts about the two games and the original movie. So I want to go back into Willow. And I know one of the monsters in Willow is named after Siskel and Ebert.

Oh, I didn't know that. Yes, the Ebert Siske is the name of one of the monsters. Yeah, that's funny. I watched Willow in the theaters as a little kid and really liked it as a little kid, though. Obviously, I was like six or seven, so how much can you really appreciate a film then? But I haven't watched it since. But I will say it was really weird at the d23 panel we did get into the marvel panel and uh which is when they show all the marvel things but they also

have a star wars section too and then they showed the new willow thing i was like this is so weird who is this for like who actually remembers willow and is like wow with willow's back like yay more stories of the tales of willow yeah willow was one of the reasons why lucas had to just do another indiana jones movie because it was a bunch of things he made like labyrinth willow howard the duck weren't very popular so it's like all right back to indiana jones we got to do something and and of course you know this new willow that only has two actors from it and not mad mardigan. Like, cause you know, Val Kilmer, we, if you saw Top Gun, you know, Val Kilmer can't really star in stuff right now. It's.

Yeah. Oh, speaking of Top Gun, it was funny because on my flights, I was sitting in to the front of me, to the left, someone was watching Top Gun to the front of me, to the right. Someone was watching Top Gun Maverick. So it's like, turn to the left smooth cruise, turn to the right, craggy cruise. So it was, it was an interesting experience. gun maverick so it's like turn to the left smooth cruise turn to the right craggy cruise uh so it was it was an interesting experience uh just like turning my head left and right and seeing like the two movies running around around the same time so very very weird oh you know also d23 while i'm on

the subject i ended up going to a thing i went to a spider-man panel out of real want to go to a an amazing spider-man celebrate 60 years of Amazing Spider-Man comics panel. I was the guy who got to shout out all the trivia answers because like, all right, now where did Gwen Stacy die? And that is a classic Spider-Man trick question because it's drawn to be the Brooklyn Bridge, but they say George Washington Bridge in the comics. So you say George Washington Bridge.

But then when it was over, I found out really why the panel was packed. They were giving out exclusive comics for free there that would only be variant covers offered there that are currently worth $600 on eBay. But I haven't sold mine yet. But I was like, wow, I ended up with this collectible comic without even planning to.

And also I got to get something signed by Bill Farmer and it was really cool to meet him and I got to compliment his work on the Goofy movie, a Goofy movie, though he actually appreciated my husband's Kingdom Hearts shirts more. He was like, wow, that's a cool shirt. He's a man who has leaned into being goofy. And also on Rescuers Down Under, Thad Kamorowski joins in again and says,

most of my comments mirror both of yours. I actually cheered when Henry called Prince and the Pauper boring. The only thing that really stuck with me from a childhood viewing was the restaurant and the waiters which still remains the highlight of the film along with the albatross getting sodomized by the mercy mice i was actually startled by how little happens and how many loose ends are left loose when i re-watched it a few months ago you were right to call out medusa should have just been cruella milt call was very jealous of mark davis animating cruella and dalians. So I think the over-the-top Medusa stuff is him justifying the wrong of that earlier film. And that had a bunch of other great details on it too.

But I really like that bit of him affirming like, oh yeah, this Medusa, the worst version of Cruella in the first Rescuers was a response to of jealousy to Cruella. And yeah, Prince of the Pauper, boring. boring it's a boring movie i will not be watching it uh moving on to garfield and friends uh binky gets canceled again and then like six other things are in that episode but uh miles dx says that cgi garfield show is really not that great despite mark evanier being behind it again there are some good episodes but don't go into expecting anything close to garfield and friends one thing of note though uh june foray did finally get an emmy award due to her role in the garfield show where she voices mrs cauldron if anything look up the

multi-episode bewitched for some classic june foray witch voice acting and boy yeah like june foray was a witch uh in media for about 70 years and now i noticed oh that's tress mcneil tress mcneil is now doing every witch uh she was the wicked witch in um the the disney short the simpsons disney short that just came out yes she was yeah doing she now is that inherited all those june for a voices to think that it apparently according to this comment took i didn't know this that it took june for a into probably her early 90s to finally win a fucking Emmy Award for a performance. That's insane. That is crazy.

Romega also said about Garfield and Friends, I do remember the push to read as a kid. Parents were afraid that TV and video games would hurt literacy rates, but not playing outside for eight hours on the weekends. Even recently, I saw a meme saying, get rid of the man cave, bring back the study. I mean, what is a study but a man cave with books?

And yeah, I mean, I want to study. Ever since I heard Frasier talk about it and say, I'll be in my study. Or I feel like Beast in the X-Men had his own study as well. I was like, yeah, a place for books. Or Belle, she's got her own study or she inherits one through marriage, I guess. Yes, we were talking about the literacy conspiracy uh made us all focus on the wrong skills for the job market and uh yeah i can like i said i i think i like i ranted about that in the episode but it's like oh yeah literacy is not valued at all uh because have you ever gotten just like the worst written

email from your boss and you're like you like i'm so much smarter than you why why are you telling me what to do you can't even string a sentence together but yeah uh latter millennials early millennials and uh probably gen xers we all read too many books and we learned that nobody cared nope nobody cares as that great joke in beavis and butthead points out like nobody studies the humanities anymore yes uh so moving on to talking futururama, FutureStock, Thad Komorowski is all over this episode. And he says, having worked in government, I am totally aware of the fax being a mandatory function. Fortunately, I believe you actually can use slash send to a specific email address and it'll convert to a fax. So productive. Yeah. And faxes, let's get rid of them folks uh don't need them we can scan things we can email things uh throw them all in a dumpster it's it's incredible that we still are using fax machines in so many parts of government and even i you know that thing that mentioned that was even shot down by a irs agent uh for us who are like can can we just email this to a thing

and and it could get then be printed out and the guy's like no no it really has to be faxed right now like get on a fax number the least secure way to send anything you're just like feeding uh pictures of papers through a phone line and shooting them to another machine that anyone anyone can pick up those papers and read them uh but at least it finally worked yes yes also on future stock sarah crystal heart says men without hats albums actually completely rip so you're absolutely right to check them out pop goes the world a great album especially the track walk on water huge shock to me as a baby punk when i learned all my cool friends love the one hit wonder renfair video

band and we were also told in the comments that uh beavis and butt had absolutely watched this video and i yeah i'm not shocked i think i have memories of some of the the quips but i i believe they had some quips about the little person who's who's featured in that ren fair video i'm sure they did but it's like yeah they would always watch the most ridiculous uh videos uh moving on to king of the hill bobby saga so alex forsyth uh explained what a pace car was for several paragraphs we we appreciate that but we're not going to read it on the air check out the comment section on the patreon if you want to read more

about that but after explaining that alex went on to say oh and dale earnhardt fans hated jeff gordon then because he contributed to a crash in the 1997 daytona 500 near the end of the race that cost earnhardt a chance to win his first Daytona 500 win after 19 tries. And then Gordon went on to win the race. Earnhardt won the 1998 Daytona 500 in February, which was before the episode aired, but probably before it was written and recorded and his anger towards Gordon subsided. So this episode is a bit of a time capsule. Finally, Earnhardt crashed and died three fourths through the final lap of the race. His teammate and son were first and second and he was being very aggressive blocking the rest of the pack to let them fight it out alone for the win the race was over before anyone even knew he was hurt

i basically watched everything on tnn that wasn't country or fishing back in the day and yeah uh thank you i was only willing to do so much nascar research uh clearly not enough and then we had another comment saying that uh yes he probably would have survived if he did wear the hands safety device and that's why they made it mandatory after his death uh because he probably would be alive and uh getting ready to be on the king of the hill reboots he wanted to live free and die free and he got his wish you know that yeah but i i really appreciate alex uh also for explaining pace cars and the intricacies of those but to know why jeff gordon was especially hated by older men because he was this young upstart who stole a veteran's like big win in 97 like that's why

everybody hated this guy but he disrupted the earnhardt legacy. Exactly. When I say good on him. So thank you. Yes. Finally, our last comment of the episode, Matt LS says, Regarding tossing concessions, Roger Owens was the famous peanut man for Dodger Stadium for over 60 years since the team moved to Los Angeles, and he would throw bags of peanuts to hungry customers in the stands. Known for his behind-the-back toss, he was frequently featured in the Jumbotron however as of july 2022 the team has prohibited owens from tossing treats

a sad day for baseball no uh frankly i just want to be handed the peanuts if i if i spend money on peanuts and then they just explode all over me uh it's not a good time that's like eight dollars for a little sack of hot peanuts probably at the dodger stadium it feels like toxic masculinity being enforced upon us like come on you have to play catch right now while you're watching baseball like just hand him to me i'm probably i probably got a beer in my one hand too it's not cool uh to know that though that apparently that if you see a backhanded toss i like peanut man jokes are in so many cartoons could it all go back to this roger owens guy because he was the one doing it in los angeles meaning most if you saw it at a baseball game

and you worked in the animation industry it was probably at a dodgers game oh probably yeah i guess you could have popularized the peanut toss yeah so i hope he's still uh he's at home tossing things around just to stay you know sharp because can't do it at Dodger Stadium anymore. Like now he's an 80-year-old man who has to hand peanuts to people instead of tossing animals. Honestly, Owens needs to quit or retire after that. He's like, if you take out the toss, then you take out Owens. I'm out of here.

Retire his concession tray or something. Hang it up next to the uniforms or whatever. But yes, that's been another episode of talk to the audience thanks for listening folks uh we appreciate your support and it's going to be a fun october it's transforming robot month for some reason we're not doing any halloween content unfortunately but we've got some cool stuff like the gurren lagann episode at the beginning of the month uh transformers at the end and of course uh talking futurama talking the hill sandwich in the middle and our regular run of talking Simpsons episodes. And of course, like we said, we'll be announcing which episodes of blabbing

about Batman, the animated series will be coming to you from mid November to the end of the year. That announcement will happen towards the end of October. We don't want to do it too early. We want to do it closer to the launch of the series, but just know you're going to be getting eight new episodes of that. That will be the fall-series and that's just uh that's just what we're able to do with our travels and having lost time due to covid and stuff but it's still going to be great it's still going to be the the mini-series you love and still the same amount of time and love put into all the episodes and we've chosen some really really good ones and henry and i each chose different ones like there was no overlap in our choices so it's going to be a great assortment of episodes from all from the

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