Talking Simpsons - Talk to the Audience?!? - September 2023

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

We're settling into fall as our monthly community podcast gets back to normal just in time for our September installment. We start by discussing the big news for Simpsons, including the favorable end to the WGA strike for the show's writers, then chat about our upcoming plans including our live show with Bill Oakley in Portland on October 14! All that, plus responses to some of the top Patreon comments on this month's episode! Support this podcast and get over 150 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

I heartily endorse this event or product. Murdoch Retirement Party attendee Bob Mackey, who is here with me today as always. Former billionaire tyrant Henry Gilbert. Hi! Yes, and in case you didn't know, this is our community podcast. It launches at the end of the month for patrons. The beginning of the month for people on the free feed. And what happens on this podcast is we talk about news in the Simpsons world, news in our world, and then we cover the questions and comments left on the last round of episodes. As the strike grounds to a halt uh we are ending our slow news months but this is a rather slow news month this month relatively yes yeah the the big news

came in at the end of this month and and also you know in our lives things have gotten more normal again after a very crazy last couple of months then again this month started pretty crazy for us as well or busier than usual but yeah i think we're we're finally getting normalizing the grind and getting used to like remote recordings i i think uh listeners have you noticed any difference or i it's felt normal to us i've listened to a few just to see if you know the sound is different if the delay is apparent and our editors do a very great job so kudos to them for making it barely noticeable but i've received no comments as to you know technical issues or you guys sound weird or anything like that so the transition has been really smooth on that end as far as far as

moving i i think there's only maybe four or five boxes i have to unpack one piece of furniture that just arrived that we have to build so we are nearly completely moved in and it's my goal to make that happen before a big trip we're taking uh next month nice nice man you know i yes i would say there are six boxes left of the things we moved with but we now have about 10 boxes of things we got to build we've also been holding off on putting up framed pictures until we have everything uh else especially our new couch built so that's why i actually did put up one picture behind me uh that bob can see and that if you're on a certain exclusive stream last week uh or you know in the third to last week of september Bill Oakley, you would have seen it too. But otherwise, all my other wonderful Simpsons cells are not unpacked as of yet.

And all of my cells have not been purchased yet. So they're with their current owners. You've got a couple. I gifted you a couple. I meant Simpsons cells. Nina and I are saving up for, how about the $10,000 cell of Barney in the hot tub with Linda Ronstadt? Who knows? It could be any of them well we need to take our big vacation my wife and i and then decide how much money we have left to play around with after that because our honeymoon has been a

long time coming if you've been listening to the podcast you know that but i think we should get the simpsons news first yes what little there is to cover and this this is more about our news and news of people adjacent to the show but But some shocking news happened, I believe. I think it was like last week. Sorry, I'm losing track of time here. But last week, Chapo Trap House co-host Matt Chrisman suffered what was called a major medical emergency. He's currently recovering. And, you know, the reports coming in, at least at this moment, say, you know, things are looking up.

It's going to be a long and slow process for him, but still making everybody laugh, and that's great. And, of course, Matt's a great friend of the show. Matt's been on the show a ton. He was at our live show. And, honestly, the Chapo folks, because of their early support, they helped us reach a much bigger audience. I don't know if we would be where we are now without them guesting so early on as we were, you know, launching new shows and launching our Patreon. So we owe a ton to them and we owe a ton to Matt. We wish him nothing but the best.

And as this is happening, because our world is nothing but chaos, his new child was born, like, within days of this emergency. So congrats to Matt and his wife Amber on the new kid. And we really hope that the recovery process goes along. And please do not podcast unless you're able to. I think he's going to be kept away from the microphone until he is able to be healthy and well again. I wish him and his wife nothing but the best in that.

And that that was on their first wedding anniversary as well, the birth of their child. Like you said, Bob, chaotic. But yeah, that was such shocking news to see. Like they missed a podcast posting last week, which they never do. Like they've been doing it for seven years and they never miss it.

Then when they put out their announcement of why they missed it, that was just so shocking to hear because we just heard him on a podcast. I was just listening to the hear because we just heard him on the podcast like the uh i was just listening to the podcast and stream he did i also just echo what bob said nothing nothing but the best good vibes and whatever you have for for matt chris big big guest for us you like 2018 like five years ago one of our first big guests i mean choppo in general all the folks from there

have been so nice to us and so helpful and have helped and we love having them on and january this year matt chrisman on his own time and we offered to pay for his airfare he's like no no don't worry don't worry like that's what an awesome guy matt chrisman is like he did us an incredible favor and he was awesome uh throughout two two live shows that same night he did too he was god he's such a great guy i yeah and when it's been very nice seeing so many other friends of his on social media just tell fun stories and and all that so yeah i just i just want to say matt chrisman he's a great guy and and yes everybody please wish him well and and here's to the speediest recovery uh mr mr kush bob so breaking news as of today the wga strike is over with a tentative agreement no details yet but writers seem happy on social media although the screen actors guild

strike is still going and it sounds like the animation guild will strike by the end of the year it's not completely settled quite yet if you don't know uh the the layers of that and i've seen i have some seen some people who don't fully understand this as there's been talk of like calling some people scabs about things that are not scab behavior or even questioning i appreciate that some listeners of ours occasionally when we have on guests who may or may not be in one of the union striking that they ask like wait is them being on this show is that going to get them in trouble or whatever and and please know that we check with all of our guests beforehand of like hey can we ask about

this or is this okay or whatever to do with your strike guidelines we always check so yes please don't worry and we trust that our guests in the industry are savvy enough to know if they're allowed to do something as well yes yeah yeah so so yeah please please don't worry. And we trust that our guests in the industry are savvy enough to know if they're allowed to do something as well. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So. So, yeah, please, please don't worry about that. Listeners, we appreciate the concern. Of course. But yeah, the WGA strike has reached a tentative deal as of this recording. Like it happened just last night and all the writers in my feed seem pretty happy about it. I can't I've seen a couple Simpsons writers joke about it but not like al gene who

has been very like he's been front line of the the strike gotta give him a lot of credit for that he was there like day one on the lines i haven't seen them say like well time to go back to work or whatever but this is a multi-layered strike even if the writers can go back into the writer's room and start producing again and editing and all that if you don't have the actors to read it you still can't you can only move so far uh with resuming production on things yeah so we'll see like we said it's very early and we don't know how good this deal is or how long the sag strike will continue so uh stay tuned for more on that i i do hope that they block their ai thing that i do hope that they got away with that that involves like the future of humanity so i really hope that uh that gets shut down so as our pal rubber cat put it breaking simpsons voice actor

steps down from role and of course rubber cat is always very clever and cute with their headlines because this is all about rupert murdoch retiring from fox and we don't need to tell you not a good guy awful awful dude one of the like worst an architect of why america is awful or the world is awful let's not just say america why the world is awful like his i mean you could name like every crime the company's committed there's been a million things with him i would suspect he'll come back anyway like these guys don't really vince mcmahon did the same thing they retire but really it's only if they are fully incapacitated or dead do they actually retire now i'll give him some credit he

is of the billionaire class that was not online so he didn't care if he was liked or not and the fact that the simpsons could put him in prison in an episode and then have him show up and call himself a billionaire tyrant at least he understood like even if i make jokes about myself i still earn like 10 million dollars per second and nothing can destroy me so i should at least look like i have a sense of humor about all this but we've talked about this before there's no way in hell anyone is insulting bob eiger on the simpsons he's not going to show up in prison with sideshow bob if bob eiger is on a thing with the simpsons the joke is they're very terrified of this powerful man who owns them and that is it that's as far as it goes because in prison with Sideshow Bob. If Bob Iger is on a thing with the Simpsons, the joke is they're very

terrified of this powerful man who owns them. And that is it. That's as far as it goes because no sense of humor there. There's another classic Rupert Murdoch joke of the telethon that Betty White hosts. And then Bart makes a donation and Rupert Murdoch says, you saved my network. And then Bart says, wouldn't be the first time. But could you imagine them doing a reverse of that joke of like that the Simpsons, the Simpsons legitimately could say, we saved your streaming platform to Bob Iger. But Bob Iger would not be cool with them doing a scene where he like is groveling to the Simpsons of like, thank you for being the most watched thing on my streamer. Thank you.

They wouldn't, he would never do that. It shows how all this consolidation is bad because we can't make fun of the boss anymore. being the most watched thing on my streamer thank you they wouldn't he would never do that it shows how all this consolidation is bad because we can't make fun of the boss anymore there's just fewer and fewer bosses and they get more and more powerful maybe too rupert murdoch was of this like aussie lad culture of like oh we all get drunk together and we all mock the boss like ha ha ha it's fun times but but i will crush you like he at the very least or if you're successful enough for him he's like you know what you earned enough money for me to make fun of me yeah maybe that too so yes rupert murdoch best wishes on your remaining few years of life because you're 92

yes and uh yeah also yeah he had a post one of his i think his farewell address also was saying something about like the elites like saying we have to watch out for the elites. Like one of the elitist elites saying, in general, I am so sick of elites saying that like, we got to watch out for these elites. Like, no, that's you. They all do it. Elon Musk does it. It's maddening.

But yeah, like Rupert Murdoch, it's going to be flags at half mass soon for that guy. So enjoy the rest of your retirement. And we have news about new Simpsons episodes. So first up, Simpsons season 35, it's premiering October 1st. It'll be on Hulu October 2nd, right after the premiere. And I watched this new trailer for season 35. Lots of teases. It's just like very quick cuts of what I'm assuming are like the first eight episodes. there is a little flash of a cape fear reference and i am preparing myself for what this could possibly be and by that i mean the classic season five production season four episode the sideshow bob there is some sort of reference going on there i don't know what it entails but it seems like

there is going to be another sideshow bob episode hey just in time for new frazier everybody yeah that's well actually it's anti-vertical integration because that's on paramount plus but yeah you're right i the scene of it did seem to be lisa watching his performance of the hms pentafore and it's like her perspective on it so you know in a very 2023 way it could be about how lisa's trauma of Sideshow Bob almost murder her brother over and over again and her dealing with that. Maybe it's a Lisa versus Bob episode. Now, I don't know if you've seen the new trailer for the Frasier series, Henry, but it's nobody you remember because they're all new characters. And yes, I know that like Jane Le and uh some of the other folks are coming

back david hyde pierce not coming back but i had a joke with my wife nina the first episode should start with him on the phone saying yes niles africa you're kidding me and you're very sick well goodbye and then just just take care of that completely he's like niles is another country another continent and he's dying and that's that's the end of niles but i wish they would just cover it right up front because david hyde pierce is not touching any frazier project with a 10-foot clown pole he's very happy doing theater for the rest of his life he's the star of frazier he's the the reason people watch frazier more than more than kelsey grammer who's great he was great he's kelsey grammer may be a crappy guy uh and have bad politics, but he was really good as

Frazier Crane. But even so, yeah, David Hyde Pierce, the show is really Niles. It's not Frazier. This is not Frazier chat, but I saw a ad on, I thought it was a joke, but it wasn't. I saw an ad on Facebook or Instagram and it was for Kelsey Grammer's faith-based beer. And you know, that's already funny, the idea of faith-based beer but he's also a recovering alcoholic so he should not be a man trying to sell you beer you're right what the hell that's that's like triple insane jesus christ that no i but that trailer was real crappy well also

all the clips of it i was like wait no frazier is famous for like some of the most intelligent comedy writing on tv at its time. Like some of like the smartest, wittiest wordplay was on that show and such clever, like the height of farce, the best episodes of Frazier were some of like the best farce on television. I just, the clips they showed, which should be their best step foot forward.

None of it felt like even on the level of like the last season of Frazier. Yeah. It just felt like, uh, I guess we have to pull the trigger now and it's going to be just kelsey and a bunch of new people and i guess his deadbeat 40 year old son yeah they just make up a son who should hate him like if you watch the show frazier he did abandon his son and never saw him right i mean the son is not made up it is a character

like an existing character on frazier well because cheers wanted him to have a son and have a baby be born in the cheers run and him end up with lilith and the baby but then when they decided on the spinoff show they're like we don't want lilith there he's got to be a single man dating and he can't have a kid so you know what screw that lilith just takes him away and you know if they have a line like that at the start of the new season of fraser at least it would match the style of the first episode of fraser where the very first scene is him on the radio saying and so yes I packed up from Boston and moved back to my hometown Seattle which I never mentioned before ever on the show with my cop father and never mentioned him either I said he was dead in the old show but anyway in a way it's clumsy but that really did sum up the transition from Boston to Seattle but

yeah this is not talking Frasier that will never happen check out our episode on brother from another series with nina matsumoto if you want to hear us talk about frazier moving on a few other uh really tangential simpsons things in that senator john fetterman uh referenced guy incognito in a very cute way because uh there's a lot of conspiracy theories about how there's many doppelgangers of John Fetterman and he referenced the classic guy incognito from Fear of Flying, correct? Yes, yeah. He mentioned the guy because basically he changed his facial hair and John Fetterman is, you know, one of the freshman Democratic senators who's whole. And I got to say, it's kind of winning me me over too, that he's just like a regular guy.

Like he's not a rich freak. Like though I'm sure he's getting rich freakified as he hangs out in the Senate, just as, you know, AOC is less than she used to be as well. But again, I like, I'm stealing something from our pal Matt Chrisman, but him pointing out how all of the regular guy acting Republicans get freaked out by the

closest thing to a normal person in the senate in john fetterman being just like a really large man who likes to wear cargo shorts yeah like uh he's he's out from the gym and ready to be on the senate basically that's that's his look yeah and bill oakley approved of the joke too our pal bill so that's also why i was like, oh, that's good. I guess he ran, he just, he did the spiral thing on Twitter where he ran the scene of Burns meeting with his political team from the Burns Runs for Governor episode. I'm not saying the entire title, by the way. And it's about his opponent. It's not about Burns.

He edited the video, or his team did, to make it look like it's about his opponent. So very cute. You know, though, the more political operatives learn about the power of sharing Simpsons memes, the worse it's going to get, I think. Well, you know, I don't think it will get worse than Ted Cruz doing his litany of Simpsons impressions to make himself seem like less of a little demon imp. Yes. Yeah. That he thinks, yeah, that was the lowest of the low. And that was pre beard Cruz before he grew a beard, his equivalent of the beard was acting like he actually liked

the Simpsons or knew what it was. It's a, I mean, he did that one recent thing, Ted Cruz, where there was some study about like, you should not have any alcoholic drinks or whatever should be like one a week and he's like you try to take this from me i'm not letting it go and it's just a bunch of larger actually masculine men behind him yes yeah uh i mean uh no judgment here but it's very funny that these guys trying to evoke masculine values have just the highest wormiest voices in the world, like him and DeSantis. Yeah, I know. And Trump is, you know, as Will Miniker often points out, the Simpsons character that Bart refers to is like, he's such a bitch.

Yeah, all they care about is the frou-frou, classy stuff. They are not regular men. Like, you know, Ted Cruz did not go to ivy league schools and strive his entire life to drink beer in a bar with normal people no no absolutely not he tried to escape being close to any of those people yeah i mean that it's such a carefully staged thing yeah that thing of saying like also no democrat would ever enforce anything ever that's also when those things are like oh even if even if there was a good study that said you should only have one beer a week or whatever the democrats would never enforce it to begin with anyway

yeah i okay we're getting off track here because there's no news to talk about but a lot of people were very upset by biden saying now listen here jack you know those convenience fees on tickets well i don't like them either and they they're going to hit the road, pal. And people are getting mad about that, like, we should prioritize this and that. But my thing is, like, don't get mad because it won't even happen. Yeah, oh no. This incremental thing that challenges huge businesses

that have a monopoly on ticket sales? Prove me wrong, class, prove me wrong. But I don't think even that incremental change will ever happen in our lifetimes and if he pulled it off then i would bet that the uh supreme court would just knock it back down anyway yes yes at least that's a fight picking a good fight like nobody likes ticket master i'll give that to biden yeah nobody likes those fees he picked the right cause but i'm also like hey man like about a ago, you said you'd give me $10,000. And I'm still waiting on that check, buddy.

I might have moved countries, but I still have a mailbox. You also got, I mean, you, I couldn't imagine going through that suffering of like getting the message of $10,000 coming your way. And then later like, whoopsie doodle did we said that a little too early you're not getting ten thousand dollars hope you didn't make plans did i say ten thousand dollars i meant ten thousand doll hairs and they're coming to you in the mail uh yes uh disappointed in everybody uh in politics except for john fetterman i will say that and i guess henry is uh it's time for henry's this really grinds my gear segment yes okay so when i search for news for these uh community podcasts i'm like okay what else i miss in simpsons news and i got

sick of those did the simpsons really predict whatever or also i i laid uh i laid off of the you know shoe brand now working with simpsons news like haven't done that in a while either. But now the new one I hate is somebody with AI art creates like live action Simpsons in an 80s movie. Live action Simpsons. Oh, I'm like, and I am just sick of them. I am so sick of those. If you are out there and see somebody share those, tell them this sucks. Stop doing this.

This isn't fun Simpsons content. I am sick of it. yeah i mean i didn't know it got worse i was just sick of every article being simpsons predicts it which is why we had did our live show with matt chrisman last year and it has not stopped no even though even though we they were so uh thoroughly spoofed by us they still haven't stopped i know we spoofed him good too but it's all now it used to be what's a podcast. But now when I say what my job is, it's not what's a podcast. It's that the Simpsons high. Isn't it crazy?

They predict everything like that literally just happened. We're hanging out with some new nice people this weekend. I hope you ended that relationship, Henry. Yeah, I was like, I got up from the table and say, like, this brunch is over. You're paying for my waffles. And I love ignorant sluts. So, Henry, we have some wrestling news here. got up from the table and say like this brunch is over you're paying for my waffles and i left ignorant sluts uh so henry we have some wrestling news here uh and i'll leave it to you because i looked this guy up i didn't know uh who he was i've never seen him before in my life but apparently

he passed away he based his persona on bart simpson in a way i had never heard of this before it only came up because the guy just passed away. He was pro wrestler Bart Sawyer. That was his name in the ring. Passed away at 57. He's most famous as the guy who The Rock first won a championship with, like, very early in his career. He's like, oh, he was The Rock's tag team partner. But I didn't know this until this week.

In 1990, they repackaged him. Whatever his name was before, they changed it to Bart Sawyer he would come out wearing Bart t-shirts that were hot at the time and his music was do the Bart man he entered to do the Bart man people would say like the Bart man is here and it's just so crazy I'd never heard of this guy before whose character was I am bart simpson and don't you kids like bar uh now this broadcast on regularly regular tv but it was not national he was i believe in the portland area which also ain't fitting too fox did not shut him down you know it was so rinky dink back in those days if you were a local promotion they just uh not unlike us say like hey you know just play it who cares

they're not what are they gonna do sue us but obviously hey you know just play it who cares they're not what are they gonna do sue us but obviously that couldn't work on national televised pro wrestling but yeah so look up some of the matches especially from like 90 and 91 if you want to see the uh the performance he was a fine pro wrestler rest in peace but uh i was just so i was like wow it's a guy coming out to do the bart man wearing a Bart t-shirt and he is supposed to have hair. Basically, he has blonde hair that's supposed to be spiky in a Bart style, though hardly does it look like Bart Simpson's hair. But, you know, you can only get so close. He tried. He tried. So RIP to Bart Sawyer.

And now it's time for news about us. So first of all, thank you to everyone who came out to the PAX show, our first live What a Cartoon show about Mortal Kombat The Journey Begins. We love seeing you there. It was a great audience. The show went off great. We sold some nice posters. And I will say, to be a bit upfront here,

some conventions pay us and some don't, and PAX does not pay us. So we do some of these shows at an expense to us, and we like doing it. And the fact that you show up means a lot. So thanks for coming out. Yes. Yeah. Thanks to everybody. There were so many cool people who stuck around after to say hi.

If you were there, we want to say it was real nice to meet you. You got to even meet our spouses of the show who are hanging out with us too. So if you ever wanted to meet my hubby, yeah, he was there as well. Also, again, Nina's art looked amazing. And if you weren't there but watched along on Twitch or watched the replay on Twitch, we really appreciate that too. So thanks a lot. And it will be posted online eventually in video form or audio form.

Actually, I have the flash drive right here that the video is on. So yes, but I will say, yes, we enjoy PAX. And now that Henry is in the Seattle area, it's much easier for both of us to go. So we could be back there next year, but I'll tell you where we will be very, very soon. So in Portland, Oregon. I think I said it right. No, sorry. No, people are going to correct me.

Portland, Oregon. That's how you're supposed to say it. Oregon. On Saturday, October 14th, we're going to be at Kelly's Olympian, the bar Kelly's Olympian. Talking Simpsons is going to be doing another live show with Simpsons writer Bill Oakley we'll be talking about two of his Treehouse of Horror episodes and if you were at the

live show in 2018 you know it was a ton of fun and if you heard the recording you know it was a ton of fun and we're going back there for the first time in five years why did we not wait this long well I think we were lazy is the real answer but there might be other extenuating circumstances I couldn't tell you we had so much fun in that 2018 portland show was one of our earlier live shows it was our first live show on the road that we did and of course it

was our first time meeting in person bill oakley and recording with him now now bill's an old friend of ours and yeah you know by the way if you're a patron of his steamed ham society you got to watch a live q a with us and him and uh it was it was a whole lot of fun bill went there with questions like i was like well okay if you want to ask us what the worst simpsons episodes were i okay we'll we'll talk about it i uh but and that's where we first announced it but yes the uh the this show on saturday october 14th at 9 p.m at kelly's olympian uh just like last time we're going to be talking about two segments that uh that bill handpicked for us to talk about from treehouse of horror two of the ones from his season i mean if you've seen uh nina matsumoto's wonderful poster art i bet you can guess which one of them is uh but yes yeah it's it's going to

be so much fun i have so many questions I want to ask Bill. I might even surprise him with a couple of video clips he's not ready for in a fun way. Not just like, this is not an ambush I'm planning on Bill. And if you're looking for tickets, of course, we have a post about it on our Patreon at patreon.com slash TalkingSimpsons. It's a public post now.

We've also tweeted about it. It's also very easy to look up, but I can't tell you the URL because it's like 9,000 characters right on but i can't tell you the url because it's like 9 000 characters right on this podcast but if you want to check out the show and buy tickets please check out our patreon at patreon.com slash talking simpsons for the ticket link and in related news there is a reason we'll be there i mean i love portland and we love hanging out with bill and podcasting with him and doing live shows with him but i'm also there for the

portland retro gaming expo and i will be doing a show that day at 5 p.m not sure which room it is and podcasting with him and doing live shows with him. But I'm also there for the Portland Retro Gaming Expo. And I will be doing a show that day at 5 p.m. Not sure which room it is in yet because the schedule is not live yet. But I know it'll be that same day. So if you're at Portland Retro Gaming Expo, check it out. If you're in Portland that weekend, you should go to the Retro Gaming Expo. It's so much fun. Huge great dealer's room. And it's in a great part of Portland.

And it's like my favorite con every day. This is like the 10th year Peretronauts has been there, my other podcast. So I'm looking forward to going back there. You might just see me at that too, listeners, if you go to that. And also, yeah, but do not sleep on these tickets. You know, we can't tell you

where the ticket sales are at at this moment, but our last show with Bill Oakley sold out pretty early. So I would move fast on these. Bill is a local celeb, and I mean, also just, he's an international celeb. I mean, since last time, he has become bigger as an online food reviewer than even as a Simpsons legend, Bill Oakley has. We've both increased in stature since the 2018 live show. So much has happened, but yes, please check it out. Again, that is uh saturday

october 14th at 9 p.m at kelly's olympian in portland oregon and i said it correctly that time so uh moving on let's so let's talk about our schedule so our what a cartoon for october is a patron pick and it's going to be the phineas and ferb episode dude we're getting the band back together and henry and i are slightly too old for phineas and ferb although it was on tv when we were watching cartoons for kids and uh yeah this was fairly new to both of us and uh we we came at it with our elder millennial opinions uh for a show made for younger millennials yeah but we it was it was interesting to engage with such a big Disney show that all of the kids who are like 23 now really loved. And that won't die.

Like it's about to have 40 new episodes in the coming years. So thank you to Toon J for picking that one. And you guys are going to enjoy that podcast, I am sure. And let's talk about our miniseries episodes. Those are only available to patrons of patreon.com slash talking simpsons so first we have talking futurama covering the sting a great latter era fox episode and we're getting into some really good ones as the fox run is wrapping up not knowing there's going to be several decades more futurama to come for these writers yeah the other

sting is is seriously one of my favorites. Like it's another like great big concept one and also a Lila focused one, which, you know, after doing the why of fry, it's nice to have a big, a big Lila episode that it also has one of my favorite, like mid act twists.

Like I, they say it on the commentary, but the sort of twist in the middle where they're like, Oh, here's the explanation of how fries and dead dead and then they they admit that like this is just crummy enough that you think viewers will accept it but it's not the real one yes I'm looking forward to that one uh so much and also talking of the hill uh we're covering three coaches and a Bobby in which Bobby uh enlists in the soccer team and Will Ferrell is the coach. This is back when Will Ferrell was just the fun SNL guy who was like Bob Oblong

and not a cinema star for 10 years, a comedy superstar. Who seemed very going through the motions in his Barbie role, by the way. He wasn't trying. I mean, he's fine. I hear he's, I mean, I haven't seen it, so this is me speaking from a point of ignorance, but that's never stopped me before. But I hear he's, I mean, I haven't seen it, so this is me speaking from a point of ignorance, but that's never stopped me before. But I hear he's the worst part of that movie. He is pretty weak, because I mean, he's just doing like, he's just 10 years older doing what he did in the Lego movie.

Okay. With a lot less energy and age. I thought you were going to say Zoolander. Oh, I mean, well, then it's even like, even doubly worse than that, because Zoolander, he is in prime Will Ferrell condition. But interested to go back to it because it was very of the 90s of kids are playing soccer. That's loser sports. Hey, it's the one sport.

I mean, I played all the sports at least for one year. That was like basically the last sport I played because I just didn't have to do anything. And I didn't like when the ball came at me at all. Not not good. It's perfect for tiring out your overactive kids. They're going to be running all day and they're not standing in place like if they're playing baseball, you know.

They just run up and down the field over and over again and your kid's exhausted by the end of it. And yes, that's the miniseries episodes for that month of October. And we also have the What a Cartoon Movie podcast available for people at the $10 level or higher at patreon.com slash TalkingSimpsons and the movie that month we're heading to Anime Town it's been a while actually I don't really understand

I don't know the last time we covered anime I think it was Tokyo Godfathers back in December yeah because this year in 2024 I do not believe we've covered it. We got a little close to Anime Town with Batman Superman World's Finest, but that still was technically an American production, even though Ghibli animated half of it. This is real anime. I forgot if I even said the name of the movie. Oh, yes. Oh, sorry. It's Project Eiko. And that's a classic 80s anime, super influential. And it is available to stream. There's a new Blu-ray out by, is it Discotech that did the Blu-ray?

Discotech did the greatest Blu-ray you'll ever see of Project Eiko. It is a remaster you never thought would exist. I was told would never exist it's a huge uh a a wonderful thing that it's finally came out in a full remastering of the tale of its remastering that's where the history segment alone if you go to most of the at least in the united states most of the free to watch channels like free v2b retro crush pluto i think even you can there is project echo on there that you can watch with ads it is not the awesome remaster but you can still appreciate it uh in in that way if you don't want to to spring for the amazing discotheque blu-ray that's out there so yeah that is our

schedule for the month of october now to talk about what we've been playing and watching that's not related to podcasting but somehow ends up being on podcasts talk about what we've been playing and watching that's not related to podcasting but somehow ends up being on podcasts. And what I've been playing is, because the demo hooked me, I'm actually playing Final Fantasy XVI. It's taken some big swings. It's a new take on the series. I don't know how popular

it is because it's only out for PS5 right now. But I am enjoying it as a fun story tunnel game where you're just shoved forward and asked to interact with a cool battle system and the story is very good so far so I unexpectedly got into that after the demo and I've been really enjoying that so far that's it's interesting that they went in the story tunnel direction you remember in Dragon Quest 11 that like it starts with a story tunnel and then once you're done with that like four hours of it they're like all right now, all right, now it's time for real Dragon Quest, and we're going to get,

it's time for big time Dragon Quest. But it sounds like, so it doesn't really have the open world like XV had? Not really. It's like nodes on a map. And honestly, I'm digging it because I played a ton of Final Fantasy XIV, and it's by the same director, the same localizer, and the same composer. So very strong Ff14 vibes but this time they can say the f word how do you feel about the platinuming of it though or as in like

the not as in getting a platinum uh trophy but how it feels like bayonetta or devil may cry oh i love that because uh the ff15 uh sorry this is so nerdy but the final Fantasy XV battle system was such like Kingdom Hearts. And I wasn't a huge fan of it. Because I learned how to really master it early on. And it was so easy to just spam and button mash and everything. But this one requires a little finesse. And I do like that. So I like that they spent time developing a battle system for the game.

That's all about switching between different movesets. Just like in Devil May may cry instead of weapons you're switching between different like uh summon spirits that give you different abilities so it's very cool and i'm looking forward to seeing how that goes now i've also been playing a monster hunter now which is the uh niantic or niantic uh monster hunter walk around game it's it's very much like pokemon go so hunter and i and my wife we all play pikmin bloom and that's like very passive you go on a walk then you check in with your pikmin and see like what they've collected what steps this one is like pokemon go where it's like you got to stop when

you're walking and like see what's around you and you know fight the monsters of course there's passive things you get just by walking around but it's really uh you engage with it a lot more but i was very impressed with this because it really nails the monster hunter cycle but in the the handheld format the like iOS format or whatever you want to call that mobile smartphone there we go searching for the right word but yeah like the the monsters their attacks are the way they should be the weapon move sets are the way they should be I am I'm not a no by no means like a monster hunter expert but i played like 500 to 600 hours of the series so far and i'm just very shocked that like it's all the way it should be and i'm sure at some point it's going to be uh begging me for money

to do basic things but so far uh really fun and i recommend it and it actually got me back into playing rise because i never finished the uh the dlc so i'm playing rise again so i'm having a monster hunter and final fantasy renaissance here as i'm mostly playing things for retronauts because i have a lot to record before a few trips coming up here so yeah with that monster hunter thing i'm interested in that too because niantic they they've put stuff in the niantic machine for a while now just like you know they just canceled a bunch of games or like oh we can do a we can do a pokemon go for basketball or for the nba or for marvel and then he just canceled that one i was uh it seemed like they were contracting but i'm glad to hear that the at least monster hunter is working out as good as pokemon and pikmin uh so far yes i recommend it it's a lot

of fun and if you're afraid of monster, it actually teaches you a lot about the basics of Monster Hunter. So you could conceivably go from this to playing the actual real, in quotes, console game. So, yeah, looking forward to that. And sorry, not looking forward to that. I'm actually I was thinking about like next year is the 20th anniversary of Monster Hunter. So there's probably going to be an announcement of a new game. And that's what I'm looking forward to. So I'm watching not a ton of things because I've mostly been doing a ton of podcasting between trips uh between packs and this upcoming trip we

have and then a vacation after that so watching all new futurama there's one episode that went live as this episode is being recorded right now that i haven't seen it's the finale of the first 10 but enjoying it so far there's only one really really bad one and it's so bad that it's captivating to think about like where this idea came from and how it actually made it to the screen so i guess kudos to them and i think everyone agrees it is the worst one of the season it is sort of a um a anthology of interest style thing or treehouse of horror style thing and i've never liked those beyond the first two because it's like well what if Fry, Leela, and Bender were this

instead of what they normally are and it's like well that's not that interesting anymore this one has a very strange framing device I don't want to go into but the three stories are like what if the entire Planet Express gang were three kinds of antiquated toys so it's like

one story is like what if they were all wind like one one story is like what if they were all wind-up toys one story is like what if they were all hot wheels and one story is like what if they were all uh weebles or rubber duckies and it's it's so it's so strange i really want to know where this came from because that's really weird it's it's inexplicable and it's also not very good but i've been impressed by the the run of the series so far and i think we should cover one of the newer ones uh for talking futurama maybe after we finish the fox run in april we can cover one of the new hulu episodes so uh other things and this is related to things henry's getting into i am now picking up one piece

again as i head back to the gym i think this is my third week back and I basically I'm on the elliptical machine for about an hour and I'm able to watch three episodes at a time so I'm nearly at episode 300 of one piece right now out of out of a thousand so I'm a third of the way there and maybe I can catch up by the end of the year or sorry a year from now so that's been a lot of fun and I think think it's uh well it's a i'm going to the gym but now everyone's talking about one piece again because of netflix and i'm like oh i need to pick up where i left off uh with the anime and the manga as well so i'll probably be reading more of the manga uh as i have less obligations uh in the future so movies everything i watched this month was mostly for a podcast so you you'll hear me talk about that or you will hear me talk about things i've seen like king kong and blade runner and and things like that um

but i think the most notable thing i did see was i went to the rio theater in vancouver i can't stop promoting them enough and i saw a screening of tank girl with the movie's director rachel tallale and this is my first viewing of tank girl. Henry, did you see Tank Girl in theaters? In theaters when it was brand new? I knew it. I did see it. I knew you saw it in theaters. My mom took me to it. Exactly.

I saw it in theaters, yes. I have not seen it since it was brand new. Maybe I've watched some clips, saw a little bit of it when it aired on TV, but no, I have not seen it since then. Not great. The studio killed it and mangled it and I don't know if it would have been good with its original vision,

but definitely worth watching for like the pure freak show quality of it because it's like it's so 90s. And yes, it's the 1995 movie, but it's like it just reeks of the 90s. But there are like these little animated scenes in the movie, maybe like two minutes of original animation, and they look like MTV eye dents basically. They're like sick and twisted and weird and cool perspectives and all that fun stuff and when I saw those I was like oh this whole thing should have just been animated but no one was going to do that in 95 in fact no one's doing that now

so we still haven't come that far to have an adult animated movie in theaters outside of like Sausage Party, South Park, Bigger Longer, and Uncut. Arguably some of the Miyazaki movies or Ghibli movies are like for adults, but kids can also watch them. But it made me kind of sad because it's like we still can't do this. I forget that the, does the animation look like the band, the Gorillas? Because, you know, the artist, the creator of Tank Girl is the Gorillas artist. So did they really went their own direction with it?

But, you know, obviously the look of the movie is very much inspired by uh his artwork so uh yeah very very weird movie uh michael uh michael mcdonald michael mcdowell there we go i think that's the name of the actor malcolm mcdowell okay three times the charm uh he was having a lot of fun the director said that he just had finished shooting Star Trek generations and he hated working with William Shatner. So he just wanted to have a good time and he did. That was great. I mean, and she was still like, yeah, being a female director of even a mid budget film

back then was an achievement in and of itself. But no, the things I remember from watching it were Ice-T as a kangaroo man, the liking the little cartoon bits. And lastly, I will say as a 13 year old, I was slightly into, I did feel somewhat activated by the opening scene where her ill-fated boyfriend and her play a little sex game. Oh, right, right. With him stripping off. As a 13 year old boy, was like hey i don't know why i like this but i it it was one of those moments of like oh i guess i like men to quote

ralph i like men now so you had your sexual awakening during tank girls what you're saying a little bit but but and i could say you know when i was in the closet i could say that to friends and not name the scene of like oh yeah sexual awakening during tank girl and people could be like oh yeah laurie petty's so hot or whatever i was like yeah i never thought i'd be talking about tank girl for this long but it is funny to go back to um uh the era of superhero movies or comic book movies in the 90s because we got a batman every few years but they would adapt nothing else except for weird indie comics and old stuff so it's like we couldn't get a Spider-Man movie in the 90s or an X-Men movie or a Superman movie,

but it's like you're going to get Tank Girl, you're going to get Mystery Men, not even the Flaming Carrot himself. A spinoff of the Flaming Carrot is going to be your next superhero movie. All these weird things. Men in Black, yeah. A Malibu comic, right?

Well, it's also nuts to think about how back then they would option these comics that were owned by the creators. They don't do that anymore creator owned things i i'm doing research on our november what a cartoon and part of it that's the interesting problem for it is that it got chosen like i it's all thanks to ninja turtles because it was a creator owned comic that then got turned into a cartoon and the guys didn't sell it so it was just standard but now if you don't sell your stuff they are like well then we're not going to make a show we don't own we're not going to pay for more of this series we if we don't own it so it's it's so the opposite from from the 90s production and one more thing about superhero movies now uh we released our corpse bride episode uh on the on

the patreon feed for what a cartoon movie and of that, I went back to the Blank Check episode about Corpse Pride. It's on their Patreon. I'm a patron of them as well. And I listened to it before, but I forgot what they said. And, you know, Blank Check loves tangents, and we do as well. I'm not throwing shade at them. But the episode begins with like a half

hour discussion of Captain Marvel. And it was a fine discussion that I wasn't into because I don't care but I also thought I am so glad this era is over I am so this reminds me of being in any group of people for like a decade and I had not I had no in in this conversation but I I feel like that era has ended and I'm so happy yeah yeah Marvel movies still feel like something but i do feel like they've gone nobody's that excited for him anymore like and i feel like it's uh yeah i don't know what they're gonna do they my husband and i joke that the last uh ace up their sleeve is x-men of them just finally going

fine we're showing you all these boring people you don't really care about you're a 90s kid you care about the x-men look here, here's a new Wolverine. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. That doing anything for you? Exactly. Yes. Yeah. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing

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big on care. Did I mention that we care? That was pretty much their Hail Mary to save the Doctor Strange movie is making like 15 minutes of it in X-Men cartoon. Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to be a little stinker. And I know you superhero fans are going to get good movies again eventually. But I'm just happy the breathless enthusiasm about like the newest phase.

I'm glad that has been tamped down a little bit. It was just like it was a trip to another time. It was just like, it was a trip to another time. It was 2019. I was like, I can't believe this is so recently, but it feels like an alien world in which there was excitement about these movies. Endgame really wrapped it up. And then on top of that,

DC is like, well, I don't really, like Flash kind of whiffed, was not even whiffed, was so bad. It just fucked everything up. Yeah, it's, superhero movies,

if they're going to make a movies if they're gonna make a comeback they gotta make a strong one but we could be about to enter some new age i don't know what's gonna replace it marvel is definitely on uh on one knee right now catching their breath it's gonna be anime adaptations we'll talk more about that later uh so other stuff going on in my life not a lot of things happening because it's mostly just planning podcasts recording podcasts posting podcasts in between trips but i did go to a david silverman speaking event in vancouver it was very great i got him to draw an original illustration of bart on the inside of my original episode guide i didn't request that i just said can you just draw whatever you want on the inside and he drew a nice little bart with david silverman written under it

so i will treasure that forever uh that that forever unfortunately remember that we interviewed him I brought it up but I think he gets interviewed so much that I before I even threw it out there I was like I know he won't remember this and I told him it's like we remembered sorry we interviewed you and you know Wes Archer and Bill Cobb he's like oh oh really when was this and I was like oh it's for a podcast he's like oh. He's like, oh, really? When was this? And I was like, oh, it's for a podcast. He's like, oh, podcast. It's like, oh, sorry. I'm drawing a blank here. So I didn't take it personally because he's 67 years old and he gets interviewed all the time. And also he's a big

attendee of Burning Man. And he just returned from Burning Man. Survived it. So yeah, I went to that. It was great. I got a nice drawing from him. I mean, the downside of is uh going to these events is as a simpsons podcaster we know every story these people are going to tell and that you know that exactly is what happened during that event uh i

knew every anecdote but i was happy to hear them come from the man himself but at this point i'm not surprised by anything although i feel that uh silverman was trying to uh not necessarily a cry for help but he was trying to let people know that like the shorts that he's making he's not given enough time for these shorts is what it sounds like and he was trying to be like oh well you know it's like oh it's got to be out by this time because the new show's coming out we're like pulling our hair out and it's it's madness you know we're never given enough time so i feel like he was trying to voice that complaint while being very very kind to his uh bosses at disney but i sensed a reason why those shorts are not our cup of tea uh he was trying to explain

why they're not uh as good as they could be uh i'm paraphrasing of course but there was this moment uh where he said, you know, oh, Disney doesn't give us notes or anything, and so they're totally hands-off. Then he talked about how for Rogue Not Quite One, that they were going to have it feature or center around an entire character from the Star Wars world, and they build out all of this, you know, storyboards for it, and they did a lot of planning, and then Disney was like, you can't use that character. So it sounds like they do get notes on these shorts and that that sounds like they're being constrained both

by disney notes and by given by being given like only a few months to really put them together so i felt bad for him that that's his uh duty now and he's not able to shine like he should it sounds like a gilded cage because i bet as a pro he's paid a whole lot for this but that sucks like yeah i mean i don't feel as bad now dissing his the work of those things because i try every time we review those shorts i do try to find like the the mastery in there of like where there's there's some amazing animators working on it i when i went to the d23 panel and he talked about how like they got the original one of the original lead animators on Ursula to draw the Ursula bits in that Lisa Disney princess thing. I was like, wow, that's that's a level of care that I expect from David Silverman.

That's awesome. But there's only so much he can do, I think, is what I'm getting a feel for that answer. Again, I'm not trying to put words in his mouth. This is the sentiment that I got. He seems like he's happy, but he also seems like he would like a lot more time for these promotional shorts and we can all agree some of them uh are not great uh and uh if you ever wonder why in that christmas short the family's just kind of standing around listening to a singer sing a song uh maybe it's because he had very little time to make a promotion for a new album or special or whatever that was promoting and uh yeah i spent some time in Seattle. I did want to give a shout out to a really cool bar we discovered that is honestly probably very popular in Seattle,

but it was my first time in there. Jupiter Bar in Seattle. Very big, very cool. Lots of cool murals on the walls. A ton of pinball, really good nachos. Enjoyed it a great deal. And also we didn't go into this bar because we didn't even know it existed, but not far from Jupiter is a bar called shorty's that's very similar so seattle is seemingly a very good pinball

town and i'm recommending that to you henry check out jupiter bar in seattle all right i'm gonna check out this jupiter place that's good i wish i wish i'd heard about that before because i we just met some friends for brunch yesterday and we went to a place that like oh this has good yelp reviews and the service was so crappy that i couldn't tell if it was crappy like on like i could tell short service uh or short-staffed bad service like that's fine but this was like uh a very unattended brunch place and they just left us in the corner we had to ask for ordering our food and for the check like they never came to us but the weirdest part was somebody came they never refilled any of our water except for at the very end one person got their water refilled like the person with the pitcher came by

refilled one thing of water and then walked away and we're just like okay that was so perfect that felt with purpose that didn't feel like like short now you have to name them henry we got to know which which which location to avoid for our seattle brunches well it's called julia's was the name of the place so you could have went to a cool dive bar with pinball next time i will remember this i i will remember this pinball place jupiter will be what i suggest but then but then i went to a cat cafe, which was very nice, with very nice attendees. And I didn't have a pumpkin spice latte. I had an apple cider cranberry latte, or no, tea, which was very tasty. It was great seeing you in town, Bob, in Seattle. You got to see my new

place. I haven't gotten to see your place yet, but you got to check out mine. We recorded an episode coming up next week. It's the Richie and Scratchy movie episode with special guest Nina. We were all there in person recording. So if you miss our in-person recordings, we've got one coming up very soon. And you got to see my Simpsons arcade machine as well. And hear all of the old clips from Simpsons bowling. Well, so for my month, what I was playing was I only played one real game this month,

which was Diablo 4 I finished Diablo 4 it was good I enjoyed Diablo 4 except the ending of it really was like I'm not gonna spoil it but it definitely was like well that's the end of Diablo until next time and I was like well this is not as satisfying in general it felt like a wait for the DLC kind of ending well I know Diablo 3 you played in basically loops is diablo 4 the same way where you finish the game you go back into it and play through it again it definitely no no it's not that well the post game does just say like well there's still there's still lots of stuff to do and you can't do like boss challenges and redo bosses on harder

difficulties and also up the difficulty and there is a ton of side missions to do but no you don't start back over from the beginning though in it i do think the uh the dlc that's currently out is a start from zero with a new re-roll a new character type thing but yeah the the ending though is such like a cliffhanger uh story ending that i was kind of dissatisfied by it but it's a fun game to play with a podcast on with my husband. We enjoyed that. Otherwise, I've just been playing apps. I've been doing a lot of Japanese Duolingo.

I'm up to 51 days straight in Duolingo. I'm trying to keep up with Nina is my only friend on Duolingo and that I got to keep up with her streak. She's at like over a 200 day streak on her program. Hey, I might be joining you folks because I'm heading to the same location very soon. No, I'm doing good on the, I'm up to Katakana lessons now.

Now I could read the word curry and I'm like, oh boy, now I'll know which places serve. I mean, the advertising on the places, you don't need to be able to read kare to know what a place serves curry. Just look for the giant picture of curry in the window. Yeah and lots of pikmin lots of marvel snap i've been playing a little pokemon sleep but honestly it's all like it's all made up sleep metric stuff yeah what the hell is

that i saw pokemon sleep and i'm like well how does this even work and apparently it records it can record you if you like make noise in your sleep and then play it back but it's just like well how will it know if it's a a siren outside or your fan or i don't know you make noise in your sleep and then play it back. But it's just like, well, how will it know if it's a siren outside or your fan or, I don't know, you farting in your sleep? Yeah, no, look, the numbers are stupid. And also, my husband, because he is a Pokemon Go addict, he already bought the Pokemon Go Plus Plus for it. Which, if you don't have one of those little toys, then the way they measure your sleep is you have to put your phone down and have it on all night. And I was like, well, I'm not doing that.

So I wouldn't suggest playing sleep without that. And also the thing is like, okay, I just woke up. Groggily, look at the Pokemon sleep stuff. But the real point of it is just like, hey, it's 1130. Time to go to bed. It's to incentivize just going to bed on time and also it incentivizes eating meals at the right times because you're like okay it's it's lunchtime i should feed myself and the snore is squirtle telling you to drink water at any point no not yet okay though there's

definitely those health uh questions there well i don't think there's not as much of the drink water for your health thing in japan i guess as opposed to sleeping and eating on schedule. But as for movies, I finally watched that Speed Racer movie. I never watched the whole thing. Oh, really? OK, I know I'm doing that. I'm surprised because I thought you would have seen it in theaters. But I only saw it for the first time last year, I think, or within the past like 18 months.

You know, my feeling was i did really like it i actually i liked it more than my husband i i like the wachowski's dumb shit but i also think that i think people push too hard in the opposite direction of this was underrated in its time people were too mean to it so then i think that there was a reflexive overrating of it and i like i gave it three and a half stars on Letterboxd. But and also, though, I totally understand being completely overwhelmed by it on the big screen as well. Yeah, I mean, I think I gave it a similar score, maybe three stars. I'm looking it up now.

But my main issue is like a movie like that should be 87 minutes with credits. And it's it's like a buck forty five or something. It's just it's too long for a speed racer movie it's two and a half it's two and a half it's two and a half hours yeah it's it's way too long oh my god sorry yeah it's two hours and uh 15 minutes i thought it was much even shorter than that but yeah this there yeah a speed racer movie should not be over two hours long that's crazy i think the wachowskis wanted too many races in it, I think. And I also think they're like, well, this is a kid's movie.

I was like, well, this kid, though, I guess it was accurate to old Speed Racer cartoons because in those I hated seeing Sprite and Chim Chim. And then when I watched this movie, I was like, God, Sprite and Chim Chim are the worst. I hate them. But, you know, you're right. Accurate. And then I've been a real uh that was my only movie though i've stepped off a little my movie miss uh though i did watch a

couple movies for a podcast but instead i've been a content man deep into season two of the boys and it's been a good show it's been a good violent show it's much better than the comics it's way better than the comic i did not i was kind of sick of garth ennis's thing i've watched that new fiona and cake show which if you're an adventure time fan uh it's especially made for if you were in your if you were in your teens when adventure time started and now you're in your late 20s it is exactly for you it is great rebecca sugar wrote a new song for it uh at least one new song i haven't finished the season yet it's it's really great though if you're gonna watch it and you haven't seen all of adventure time then you need to accept that you're gonna have the ending of adventure time spoiled for you yeah whether you want that

i have too much catching up to do on that series and by that i mean i have to watch all of it except for the one that we covered for our podcast so uh yeah probably not for me but fiona cake is adventure time uh for you know 17 year olds it's not aimed at a kid's audience and and also on that note rebecca sugar did a live concert on instagram to support the trevor project and earned like twenty thousand dollars for the charity which was great and she announced that uh she's got a new album coming out in a couple months which is great it's the first time she's released music that she didn't like right for a cartoon show. Like it's fully her music.

And it seems to be about her getting over the extreme burnout of doing Steven Universe and doing it over the last three years. So I'm really looking forward to that. I watched four seasons of Harley Quinn. It was all right. Wasn't as good as season three, but it's all right.

It was good. I had some chuckles. What We Do in in the shadows season five my favorite season of the whole series harvey guillen i love him every actor on it's great it's like one of the best casts and sitcoms today i'd say uh watch gotta get in that show yeah i think uh my wife and i i love the show but i think we stopped at season three or maybe uh we're in season four there's just a lot of moving around and uh not a lot of time to watch it so i think we have that in canada i think it's on uh crave or something similar okay don't poo poo crave actually it might be on uh our disney plus uh it's it's hulu in america so

that's i was thinking it might be canadian disney plus is like uh almost as good as socialized health care i'm telling you folks it has everything everything uh also on our podcast bros uh the blowback new season about afghanistan is great i've only listened to the first four but it's great noah and brendan do amazing work on it as usual uh check check that out it's worth the subscription to hear the full thing and all the bonus episodes now but the biggie for me this month was that i watched the one piece live action which i thought was pretty good you know i look when we're talking on scales here was a very it was a good little show know that it's an adaptation of uh an anime and it's not going to be everything it's way better than the cowboy bebop live action in my opinion but that is what finally pushed me so basically i read up to the arlong

park story in the comics and i kind of fell off it a few years ago this is what got me to be like all right okay everybody's telling me including bob one piece is great you really should read it watch it however you're gonna do it was like i only like old things what but then i finally realized one piece is old enough now to be old yeah it's uh the manga is 26 years old so welcome aboard yeah so uh yes ahoy matey i say as uh as one of the mugiwara crew but yeah no i've been reading the comic a lot i've checked in on the anime a few episodes because if i really liked a chapter in the comic i was like i want to see how they did that in the anime but mainly i've been reading the comic i am now chapter at the the time of this recording, 314.

I have finished the, well, I'm going by the Shonen Jump official translation here, the Skypiea arc. I think it's Sky Island in the anime. Yeah, I mean, hey, that's the official translation. So, I mean, that's just, yeah, they have to get, I'm sure they have to get clearance for how to translate, like, proper names and everything. So, yeah, it's Skypiea. Yeah, so I finished Skypiea. It was great, of course.

And now everybody's telling me the next section is even better. The next mega arc in the series. So the interesting thing is it's reminded me of when I was a teen and I started watching Dragon Ball and I'd heard of Super Saiyans and Broly's and all these things. And then when I finally watch it, I see like, oh,

hey, that's the thing they were talking about i've had those moments in one piece when i see a guy uh saying a big feather uh jacket and cool sunglasses i'm like oh wait a minute that's a pretty big villain i've heard uh though i don't i don't know the resolution of his storyline or whatever but so yeah recent experiences with one piece made me very happy to live in the future for as bad as the future is right now that we're living in because um hey uh you know lots of things are bad but if i open my tablet i can download a thousand episodes of one piece literally a thousand and if i open my tablet

to a different app i can uh read all the manga it It's just all there. For three bucks a month. Yeah, for three bucks a month. And this is not an ad. We're not being paid in any way, although we should be. When I moved, I brought my bootleg One Piece DVD set that I bought in 2002 because I don't think it was being fan subbed that early. And I was like, this show looks so cool. I have to see it.

So I bought a very bad Hong Kong fan sub bootleg DVD of the first 52. Everybody's name is wrong. No sentence really is intelligible. But I watched that, and that's how I got into One home, even though I don't need it as a testament to myself to remember like this is how hard it used to be to just watch a show. And for the most popular show in Japan, not like a niche show. Yes. Yeah. And then, of course, it came over to America in a few years. But in 2002, God, it was so hard to watch One Piece. I and also because we are my my husband and i are also planning a trip to tokyo by the end of the year part of it is for both of us he's been reading along too he's up to 200 about to finish alabasta uh in both of our cases we're like we're gonna go to a ton of otaku stuff there that we will appreciate a lot more if we get one piece

references when we're walking around there as well so yeah yeah i i'll be heading to japan too uh i think we're going to record another talk to the audience before that trip so i'll talk more about it then but i'm looking forward to uh going and i have a lot more one piece knowledge now too so that'll pay off and we i look forward to seeing some of our Tokyo bros soon enough but uh and broettes and broettes yes I use bro in a uh a gender neutral way uh yeah sure yeah uh we're gonna move on to talking Simpsons comments though so we have Lisa the beauty queen with Merritt Kay and first we have Dylan Batman boy 11 who says, the news bit of, quote, a new fad that's sweeping the nation, wasting food, is just 50% of TikTok trends, like the licking ice cream and then putting it back in the freezer,

or the recent Grimace Shake phenomenon, though that one is much less skeezy. So I guess that has not swept TikTok yet, but we could be close to the TikTok wasting food trend. I mean, definitely the Grimace Shake does waste food in that you buy a Grimace Shake and then make a big mess with it when you do the Grimace Shake freakout. I mean, TikTok is pure evil. I'm not just an old person. I know you're on it, Henry, but no judgment here.

But the funniest thing, and by funny I mean terrifying, is how TikTok just spawns crimes. It's like, what crime should we all commit today? And I remember, I don't want to give away his name, although I think he's said as much. It's happened to him.

But I'll just tell the story. There was a TikTok trend, and the TikTok trend in this certain part of America was like, let's, if we see a Kia, let's joyride in it, trash it, and abandon it. And that was a TikTok trend. Within hours of my friend arriving in this location,

his Kia was stolen, joyridden in, and trashed because of TikTok. And also, Henry, the place we used to see movies, Bay Street Emeryville, that outdoor shopping area, there was like a massive teenage riot. Not an Atari teenage riot, a massive teenage riot because an Atari teenage riot a massive teenage riot because of TikTok wow I hadn't heard about this yes like hundreds of teenagers showed up or just like shoplifting and causing trouble and I don't like the looks of those teenagers as Abe Simpson said but TikTok is now like the crime app if you're young and bored like what crime should

we all do today wow man see my only interactions with tiktok recently have been that rebecca sugar signed up for it so i wanted to see what she's doing and she she's doing fun stuff partially to promote her album coming out uh and and because she had also sworn off social media for a couple years so i wanted to see what she's been up to as i engage with her stuff then it's like oh hey you like steven universe stuff and then i'm instantly given like some of the rottenest content from people going like um so actually steven universe is and i'm just like no no i hate seeing because the fan theories they pull out are just like yeah i read that fucking art book too you're misquoting this to to have a i like to have a seat it drives me crazy that also i'm old my husband did this also makes my my

husband is only eight years younger than me but he does show me like no here's a funny tiktok thing here's a funny tiktok thing so i basically engage with it in him showing me a curated list of what he likes that's fun that's good yeah you need someone to intervene and just uh select the videos for you because the app is just going to lead you down a dark, dark hallway. Horrid algorithms. Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry.

Next comment. Kat Hayberg says, Henry, I had a lip licking compulsion habit when I was a kid, too. Until this episode, I've never heard anyone else say the same. My mom also put Vaseline on my lips every morning and night, but I'm pretty sure it was to keep me from getting chapped. The taste didn't bother me in the least, along with the chapstick she'd send me to school with i do remember to help me stop she bought me the berenstain bears in the bad habit in which sister bears habit was biting her nails but it backfired because as soon as she read it to me i tried biting my nails and did not enjoy it and never did it again. And she was like, what have I done? No more bears for you. And you know what I want to point out in Kat's message?

She wrote Berenstein. So she grew up in that parallel universe. That's how we know. Yeah, you know, I remember that book as a kid. I am not a nail biter. I do bite my cuticle some, so it's not like I don't have a disgusting habit uh and still to this day that nail biting one there was also the uh the the berenstain bears book that my mom read us to try to get us to eat less junk food which was about eating junk food but didn't fully work on

us either but yeah i i'm happy i'm excited to hear somebody else had this lip licking problem this time and so uh that they they went through the same thing i i'm glad that one has not popped up for me again in my life so moving on we have the great louse detective next and diamond fight says watching the episode in advance of the podcast i couldn't help but notice that the japanese subtitles purposely omit the emperor from homer's list of enemies and uh this is bob speaking i mean i can understand understand the direct reason why, but I also think it's because that episode never aired there. So they can be like, oh, we don't have to acknowledge this

because no one here ever saw it. Let's just keep that out there, though. I would guess, you know, listener, if you're a Japanese resident who even knows a little English, you're going to know if you're watching it subtitled Homer say the emperor of Japan right like one would one would think that's interesting that the localizer censored that line there or or uh left it out also on that episode Trasparenti says speaking of once famous pitchmen who are dead or in jail i was recently alerted against my will to the fact

that vince the sham wow guy has launched his own anti-woke podcast in case ever anyone could possibly care to know where the slap chop guy fell on the political spectrum yes uh you're gonna love my nuts guy is that who that was the the sham wow guy i I don't remember the next thing I just remember like people cutting together the slap chop thing into like you know songs and stuff in the like a decade ago yeah I mean I can I respect people when they're canceled and just disappear but I feel like there's not enough space for the ShamWow guy in this weird intellectual dark web uh far right podcast space I feel like he needs to bring something to the table and that's not going to be the slap chop i don't i don't think so like hey you remember the slap chop i

uh well i also think that there's too many genders now or whatever you know it's same but yeah for these guys it's really one of the few places you can go with the con because you can bring a lot of fame to a place where most people aren't famous in And on top of that, if you're, say, about to have a bunch of allegations come out against you, you're in a place where people won't believe that. I'm not saying there are allegations or anything, but with a guy like Jim Brewer, well, I didn't even say the person's name yet, but the guy like Jim Brewer, you're competing with him in this space. People remember him.

They're like, I love Goat Boy, and I love Half love half bake and i loved well his joe pesci segments but uh i also think there's only two genders so he's the guy for me but the slap shop guy yeah sure the commercials were funny but i i'm more tied to this goat boy fellow so then again he that guy must know more about how to do a scam than jim brewer does like he's ahead of him on ability to scam yeah yeah I mean I I don't want to tell so this is all alleged in my in my big quotes because I don't want to make a lot of noise typing on my mechanical keyboard what did Vince ShamWow guy do or Vince Slap Chop guy but I think he hit a sex worker or like beat up a sex worker or something allegedly I think in a video game in Minecraft uh but yes uh that's that's Vince the Slap Chop guy or was is it Vince is it Vince the Slap Chop guy

well that's what the person wrote down oh ShamWow who also okay ShamWow and Slap Chop were the same company right I guess so yes because the comment says Vince the ShamWow guy launches podcast and then if you care where the Slap Chop guy Slap Chop guy fell so I guess it could be the same guy I'm waiting to see a bunch of wrestlers just lost their jobs from WWE. And if they can't get a new gig somewhere to wrestle, I have a feeling at least one of them is going to turn to the alt-right money. I have a feeling it's going to happen. Yes, actually, I was correct. That was what happened to him in terms of getting rough with a sex worker.

But also, if you go to his Wikipedia page, there's a very long legal issues section that I'm not going to. So I didn't want to just put that out there, make those claims without substantiating them. So, yes, in case you're wondering, that is the biography of Vince the ShamWow guy. That is good practice. You're right. Yeah. And now we're moving on to Treehouse of Horror 3 and Echo Cimarron says

your comments about the promoter from King Kong not getting arrested at the end are answered in the opening scene of The Son of Kong. It picks back up a month after the first movie with Carl Denham hiding from process servers and talking about getting sued by half of New York before skipping town on the first ship that will have him.

Nina and I were looking this up after we watched King Kong. This movie came out the same year as King Kong. That quickly? And it sucks. Everybody hates it. It's bad. I mean, of course, look, lightning doesn't strike twice for most creatives. But at the very least, they had the smarts to know, like, okay,

people are going to wonder why this guy wasn't arrested at the end of the movie because he did let loose a wild monster into manhattan like he he is responsible for these deaths not king kong yeah so son of kong december 33 king kong is march of 33 my god yeah so rushed into production yeah also on that episode matt stokes says our kids today looking through netflix and getting scared by the horror movie thumbnails like henry and bob i too remember browsing the video store and being terrified by vhs boxes so i'm happy to report that in the instance of my kid at least this tradition is alive and well my kid is almost 13 and loves horror movies and will endlessly flip through all the apps looking for horror thumbnails and judging how scary they look we allow her to watch horror movies now but when she was younger she asked me to describe in detail the plot of

the shining the exorcist and any other scary thumbnail that showed up this same kid was actually deeply affected by the murderous crusty doll segment when she was four years old she was in the same room with me as I watched this episode. I didn't think it was a scary episode, but it freaked her out. And she talked about it for years afterwards. She would ask to watch The Simpsons with me, but always made sure to specify, but not the mean clown one. I felt like a terrible parent for letting that happen,

but she loves The Simpsons and horror movies now. So a happy ending. I think we talked about how in that episode, that happen but she loves the simpsons and horror movies now so a happy ending i'm glad yeah i think we talked about how on in that episode the simpsons halloween segments kind of like introduced us to horror and like awful violence but within the context of things that would return to normal and things that we liked already like the simpsons so i feel like the crusty doll thing eventually got me ready for uh watching the child's play movies that look so terrifying to me as a kid but then were actually kind of fun as an adult though the merkin season's really up to

violence i would show i'd show a kid three before i saw showed him four that's for sure so now we're going to move on to cars are what a cartoon movie for the month of august and bradford barker says wow the history segment was like going back to 2006 and summarizing how I received the release of this movie how it wrapped up the Bush era culture war context and understanding that it marked the beginning of a decline in the Pixar brand maybe cars 2 was the bigger indication but I remember there being anxiety about its sale the only two differences in my own life than the host my welcome to Berkeley Pixar movie was WALL-E and I think Life is a Highway is good. The original anyway. Thank you, Bradford.

And yeah, like when we revisited that movie, I forgot just how many bad vibes were just part of the whole car's baggage. I mean, it's so deep into the Bush era. Like it's right before the it's right before his big repudiation where it actually feels like, OK, people are sick of the Iraq war like not regular people not just you know people like us middle America was getting tired of it not just people like us who from the beginning were like this is bullshit this is to steal oil it's to murder people like all of that I also to hear that the this person Bradford they got to Berkeley

with Wally hey that's a much more, that is the opposite culturally, I would say from cars because it is anti-consumption as opposed to like, all of our car oil drinking friends are great. I think my welcome to the Bay Area Pixar movie was Brave. Wow. Yeah, so I moved in 2011.

I think that's 2012. I think so, yes. Yeah, yeah. Which, you know, Brave's all right. I didn't think it was that bad. We should reevaluate I'm saying maybe on our podcast I'll tell you what no one seems to care about corpse bride no I haven't seen a lot of comments yet I might be digging deep for those comments it's a good episode that Bob did a lot of great research for the episode is good but I think we've also we podcasted the most about corpse right compared to anyone else in the

history of humanity there's no longer podcasted the most about Corpse Bride compared to anyone else in the history of humanity. There's no longer podcast or more discussion about Corpse Bride. Absolutely. Oh, and Harry K says on Cars, love the episode, but one note about George Carlin's character. I'm sure it's shocking, but it's actually more boomer nostalgia. Carlin started out as a character comic and one of his most popular characters was al street the hippie dippy weatherman i double checked and carlin is definitely doing his al street voice so al sleet oh al sleet yes sleet al sleet yeah i never saw this bit i mean i've seen a lot of stand-up that

carlin did but it was all just his cranky regular guy persona yeah that was uh i never really saw the character comic stuff i saw him as i saw him as his grumpy old man which was my favorite version of carlin and of course if george carlin were alive today he'd agree with all my opinions um but he'd say we couldn't even do this podcast today uh but yeah i i like george carlin a lot uh old man period and then i listened to like his 80s stuff and thought like boy boy, this isn't so great comparatively. There's a lot of like corny stuff in there. But not far removed from Gallagher's stand up, actually.

But the 80s were a rough time for everybody. I don't blame it. Yeah. Moving on to what a cartoon. Our episode for August was fire or September. Sorry, it was September. Yes. Yes.

Sorry, I'm losing track of time here. But Jonathan says my sister was very into Daria and being a younger brother I ended up getting into it as well I despite being too young to be in the target audience and a lot of jokes didn't always land I do remember kind of falling off the show during the whole love triangle thing so it's nice to have an excuse to revisit it now in terms of licensed music and Daria I do remember one particular use of everybody hurts in a season one episode that just doesn't work without it similar to how gordon lightfoot sundown missing from that mission hill episode really kills the joke and this is bob speaking that use of everybody hurts was from

the episode road warrior and there's an extended parody of that music video but it's uh daria trent and jane in the van thinking you can see the subtitles on the screen. So that's completely trashed. And then Mission Hill, the real-world episode, has everyone singing Everybody Hurts. Is it the real-world episode? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I guess they could pay for just the lyrics but not the backing track. It's so weird what they did with that. We covered it like three years ago, so I forgot what they did. That was very strange. Back when they did that Daria episode they could count on like no one is going to forget the rem everybody hurts music video like it was played a million times on mtv back then you know on the boys they still everybody

hurts is a good comedy beat to put into something like it is they in season one they use it to uh comedic success uh though there's a few times honestly a little bit on the boys i'm like okay do we need a licensed song every episode that's obvious i'm thinking that about a show i'm currently watching that i can't talk about yet so we'll talk about that next month at the start of boys season two they are playing sympathy for the devil which that is like i never want to hear that song again ever uh really cheesy really cheesy uh dan carlin says about daria agreed with how well and carefully written the fashion club is throughout who would have thought that quinn would have one of the best arcs in terms of personal growth the one two punching lucky strike that was daria telling quinn in no uncertain terms that she's not dumb followed by quinn going to bat for daria and admitting to

being her sister felt so damned earned at least when i last saw it and by the way oh this is not history podcaster dan carlin different dan carlin entirely oh yeah but yeah i i came to really appreciate on this rewatch how the uh dynamics are so well written in the fashion club like everybody's position in the hierarchy is so clear in in all of the actions i i really like that rewatching daria yeah and i don't think we're done with daria uh i think i mean we always want to do a mini series i don't know if that's going to happen but they're like i was talking about on the episode itself there's at least like five episodes I can think of that are worth covering for the podcast for sure yeah and

the movies maybe someday too yeah definitely movies are great so moving on to Talking Futurama the episode where no fan has gone before with special guest Andrew Jupin Andrew was such a great guest and thank you again to Andrew for being on the show I know that We Hate Movies guys are so impossibly

busy with they put out more podcasts than us yes there are more of them but boy oh boy they do a lot on their network yes thank you so much andrew yeah for sure but harry thornton says the ship that launches out of the trek episodes and movies to omega 3 is the eagle transporter from another cult sci-fi series jerry anderson space 1999 from the uk it and anderson's other shows were never popular in america so it's a fairly deep cut by u.s nerd culture standards but they're still worth looking into if just for their influence and the stuff you two enjoy they were very popular and influential in japan and hideaki ano in particular is a huge fan of his work references are peppered all over evangelion and shows uh as shown in this great

youtube video and there's a link to that in the comment. And yes, I know one big connection between the marionette sci-fi shows and things I like is definitely Star Fox. It's basically Thunderbirds. And the one thing I know about Thunderbirds is that amazing gif of the movie of all the

villains laughing. I see that gif a lot. Not enough these days but I used to see it a lot and I think we should bring it back you know it's funny to see what what British things are big in America and not known in Japan and vice versa because yeah I think not that I've never heard anybody

in American geek culture bring up space 1999 but it is very rare but I had I really had only interface with the series in videos like that that say, you know, same with, I haven't watched a ton of Ultraman,

but I also know that's highly influential on a lot of Anno's work, but especially Evangelion. Also on that episode, Abstract Homer says, now it's Abstract Homer's time to shine. As a born and bred Welshman, seeing Wales and even hearing the Welsh language in the show in the early 2000s was wild. Also, as someone who can speak some basic Welsh, I want to specifically give Dave Herman props for his not awful pronunciation of something that probably looked like gibberish to him in the script.

He even managed to catch the ch sound in Chihui. I think it's Chwail. Chwail? Yeah. The guttural back of the throat sound. Chwee. I think it's quail. Quail? Yeah. All right. The guttural back of the throat sound. Quail. Which is the Welsh do it.

We're one of the few languages who doesn't do that noise. So yes, thank, shout out to Dave Herman who's great in the new Futurama by the way. I mean,

yes, a few of the voices have aged a bit because some of the actors are now 70 but Dave Herman still sounds exactly like Dave Herman in his great roles. That's awesome. Moving on the some of the actors are now 70 but dave herman still sounds exactly like dave herman in his great roles that's awesome moving on to uh talking to the hill to spank with love and chris dobson says wanted to share a very quick middle schoolers are monster story in eighth grade my speech teacher was an extremely young guy who was very conventionally

attractive naturally this started a rumor that he was gay. There was also a rumor that he had a side job as a male model. One day I came into class and there were probably 100 copies of a page out of the Sunday newspapers catalog with our teacher modeling winter fashions with another guy, both wearing festive sweaters all over the desks and on the whiteboard at the front of the class. The teacher had come back from lunch, saw the pages everywhere and just left and didn't come back. The next day, instead of a sub, we had the vice principal yell at our class for the whole period, and we ended up having a permanent sub for at least the last month or so of the class. Kids have nothing to do, and they have no power, so they have a lot of free time to scheme.

And that's why I'm really glad I got out of teaching just as smartphones were being adopted uh by most people in society i'm terrified to know what my students could have done and they were adults to be fair they were college kids but i'm glad that uh that was not an uh an element in my classroom uh that that thing but this is unrelated but i just that was my own experience now that story is you know i don't know the exact time frame of when that story happened but if that was even like 15 years ago they didn't the kids didn't have the internet of today to really plan all this so that took a lot of like legwork of like how do they get all the copies of that ad from the newspaper just to humiliate this person and yeah I mean it's it took a lot of planning to have this kind

of homophobic attack on this teacher. Poor man. I hope he went on to become an amazing model and left teaching behind forever. And we have one last comment for this episode. Yes. And our final comment, Shane H. says, and this was one of many spanking memories that people shared of the trauma and traumatic incidents of that. And we say spanks for the memories to those patrons.

Also, you know what i forgot to say that like when we did that episode the final episode of the series is also a to sir would love title parody that's so funny oh like to sirloin with love that's right that's right oh i i totally forgot about that thank you uh but yes shane h says the texas principal at my school had two paddles one with no holes and one with holes depending on severity of misbehavior i got johnny for not doing my homework for a month on the bright side that big piece of shit got fired for pretending to go to the iraq war as a way of getting paid vacation wow wow i mean the guts they're gonna check in on that you know i mean no homework for a month that's a big that's a big move there not do it though i know but by what guts i meant the guy faking going to war oh yes no that's that's insane to be like i'm taking a vacation what can they they can't prove

i didn't go to the iraq war like that that is a gutsy move i'm obviously beating children with paddles normal but if you disrespect the troops in texas then you're getting fired that's what does it uh but yes another great month for talking simpsons and thanks to everybody for sticking with us as we adapt to our new recording locations i think everything is going well we figured so much stuff out and i think it's going to be smooth sailing from here but in case you don't remember from the beginning of the podcast, please do not miss our live show in Portland. It's happening October 4th at 9 p.m. at Kelly's Olympian. And if you want to buy tickets, check out Patreon.com slash Talking Simpsons or just check out our social media.

We're going to be promoting it a lot before tickets sell out, which will be very, very soon. So you want to jump on that if you have any inkling about going to Portland. It's going to be a fun Halloween-themed night with one of the guys who wrote or oversaw those episodes of the show with a ton of fun insight. We had a great time five years ago. You can see that podcast is in our old free feed, but check it out for yourself if you can make it in Portland. And as well, Bob and also me will be at

the Portland Retro Gaming Expo that same weekend as well, so keep an eye out for us there and don't forget our movie this coming month is going to be Project Eiko the anime classic from 1986 and you can find that anywhere if you want to watch ahead for that one too thanks so much for listening folks we'll see you next week for a new episode of Talking Simpsons and next month for another episode of Talk to the Audience and we'll see you then. Wow. Infotainment.