Talking Simpsons - Talk To The Audience?!? - September 2025

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

We've reached the beginning of the month, which means it's time for another episode of our community podcast! Because Henry is on assignment/vacation in L.A./Japan for the next few weeks, Wife of the Show Nina Matsumoto joins Talk to the Audience to discuss the few scraps of news available before season 37's premiere. And, as always, we read and respond to your comments and questions from the last round of episodes. It's all happening on Talk to the Audience: one podcast you're not going to SCREW WITH!

I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, hoy, everybody, and welcome to talk to the audience where this is always death. I'm one of your host, the guy who thinks 37 seasons isn't nearly enough, Bob Mackie, and who is here with me today joining me as a special guest in the room here. It's me, Nina Mystery Men Matsumoto. That's right. We're calling her that from now on. And yes, this is Talk to the Audience. Welcome. This is our community podcast. It launches at the end of the month on Patreon at the beginning of the month on the free feed.

And on this podcast, we talk about Simpsons News. We talk about what's happening in our neck of the woods. And we answer your questions and comments from the last month's worth of episodes. And one key member is missing. You might notice, Henry Gilbert, he is on assignment this month. And by that, I mean, he's on his second Japan vacation this year. Though actually, he is in Los Angeles again right now as we record this. Yeah, Henry goes to Japan more often than my parents now, and they're from there.

Yes, we're calling Henry out, and I know he's listening in Japan. Henry, you put the podcast down, you go back to eating ramen or whatever, and you wait until you get back. He goes to L.A. so often, I'm beginning to suspect he's embroiled in some kind of, I don't know, mafia trouble. Or he has a second podcast network that we don't know about. He's infiltrating Forever Dog, perhaps. I think Earwolf is dead. Headgum. Did he kill Earwolf?

No, we're still looking for the culprit on that one. Okay. I think it was equity, private equity. He might be part of whatever podcast mafia he's part of down there. And on this podcast, we're actually going to hear a bit from Henry about his last L.A. vacation. And you might be wondering, how does a podcaster afford to take all these vacations? I say, follow the money. Who is funding this lavish lifestyle?

I need to know. Wait, I think it's our listeners. Oh, oh, well. This is what my Patreon dollars pay for. Does this mean we can also go on all these trips if we want? Well, here's the thing, folks. We're actually going to Japan about a month ourselves. True, but it won't be our second time. in a year. No, but it's for research. And we have not been to L.A. in a while.

I have not been to L.A. since I went last year and got COVID and you were there. Yes, I remember. So it's only been a scant 16 months. Well, we have a condo to pay for. That's true. We have to pay off this property that your Patreon dollars paid for. And of course, we appreciate it. So yes, Nina is here. Henry on assignment. And Henry will be back in a while. But we've recorded podcasts well in advance. I think we have finished all of our November recordings as of this. Talk to the audience recording. Except for a few movie podcasts. So don't worry, there will not be a gap in the programming schedule. So there's actually not a lot of Simpsons news this month because we're in that weird gap between

Comic-Con and the launch of the new season. And of course, this is being recorded on September 19th, and the season premiere is right around the corner, so we have not seen it yet. But I have a little bit more information about the season premiere of broadcast season 37. The title, which we didn't have last time, is called Drifty Ways to Thieve Your Mother, which is a parody of the 19thes. 1775 Paul Simon's song, 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover, Topical. I'm guessing that is the work of Alfred Jean. Probably. Very, very sweaty title, as it's a style now. I'm guessing it's a Marge episode. Yes. We covered the plot elements last time, but I think it's about Lisa kind of pilfering Marge's 90s clothing and becoming like a fashion icon, something like that. But it's on all the wikis.

It's on last month's talk to the audience. So Marge was a 90s girl now. Yes, so she mourned the loss of Tim Meadows on SNL as a teenage girl. Yeah, pretty soon she'll be wearing Y2K clothing as a teenager. She'll be wearing the t-shirt of Lisa as her made-over self from Summer 4'4.2. What was that? Who was selling that? Was that Hot Topic? I think it was Neff or something. They might do that in the show.

They like being meta now, like adding the Homer back into the bushes meme. So maybe if you're on the free feed, you have seen that episode. And all I have for you folks this week, or this month, rather, is just new information about upcoming episodes that are coming in October. So we have an episode coming up called Keep Calm and Gary On, and according to the official press release, quote, Homer gets Superintendent Chalmers a job at the power plant. There, Chalmers discovers huge mutated snails that produce valuable slime launching his new career as a manosphere guru in the all new Keep Chalm and Gary on episode of the Simpsons airing Sunday, October 5th. So the actual title, Keep Chalm and Gary on. As sweaty as thrifty ways to thieve your mother. I'm so glad they're finally covering the very topical subject of mutated snails.

Everyone's talking about them. Everyone's encountered them. It's about time. We hear about The Simpsons' humorous take on them. Yes. I mean, Lisa became a snail once in some long episode. And I guess it's all going to pay off now. And I don't know how this connects with Homer becoming a Manosphere guru, but I guess we'll find out.

And we'll see if that King of the Hill episode from this season is a better take on that. Oh, wait. So Homer is someone who becomes a guru, not Chalmers? Oh, I guess it is Chalmers. Yeah, I think it's Chalmers, which makes more sense. Because he's kind of a masculine guy. Yeah, sorry for the misinformation folks, but it is Chalmers. And then we have Yellow Mirror, which I believe is a Disney Plus exclusive.

Carolyn Amine, the writer for the Simpsons, a writer for the Simpsons, revealed this on the Writers' Hangout podcast. And in case the title didn't give it away, this will be a two-segment, horror-ish episode. But according to Amine, it's actually closer to the Twilight Zone than Black Mirror. But, of course, Black Mirror is a more current reference, and I guess they haven't explicitly done a Black Mirror thing yet, I'm not sure. Yeah, I've never watched Black Mirror and neither of you, right? No, no. Something seemed interesting, like that interactive episode that I think Netflix took away from us. Oh, why?

I don't know. I just daily list things. It was called Bander Snatch. It was sort of like a Chooseer and Adventure Dealey. Oh, I remember that, yeah. Although that could be unrelated to Black Mirror. I don't know, but I never actually interacted with it. The title, it makes sense because you can take anything with a color in the title, replace it with yellow, and turn it into a Simpsons episode.

And if I were a writer in the show, I would start with that and work backwards. I've got an idea, actually. How about Yellow Phone? Yellow Phone? Yeah. With Bart and Seychobob. If you pitch that now, it might make it into the 2027 triosophore, I think. Maybe even later in that.

By that time, Black Phone 2 will be out? Oh, yeah. I think we saw like a poster for that. What is the subtitle for that movie, like Call Waiting or something? Frozen Empire. I don't know. We've seen the trailer like twice now, I think, in theaters. Well, you're a bigger black phone head than me, right?

Don't call me that, please. That was one of the times we begged to differ on our letterbox accounts. Yeah, what, you gave it like two stars? Yeah, I wasn't a fan. I gave it like three stars just because it's so ridiculous and kind of like a goosebumps book that I kind of enjoyed it for the cornyness. It's the one horror movie I've seen that has a hint system for the protagonist. Yes, and that's a ridiculous aspect that I enjoyed about it.

Although we saw a horror movie this month that kind of felt like a video game. Maybe we'll talk about it. Oh, I'm going to bring it up. Okay, cool, cool. So stay tuned for that. Yeah, that is it for Simpsons News. We are only eight minutes into this recording and we are done. But stay tuned for next month.

I'm sure we'll have watched all the new ones, at least the three new ones, talk about those. And then, of course, we have Trioz of Horrors around the corner. It's all going to be a good time. But, again, we are in that weird gap between Comic-Con and the new season, and nothing really is happening. So now it's time to talk about our news, what's happening with us. So let's talk about the schedule. for the Talking Simpsons Network in the month of October

and I'm pretty sure Nina has just watched me from afar as I was preparing for all of these episodes especially one of them Oh yeah I like when I see what you're watching I'm like what the hell is this And asking is that good and I'm like Well it'll make a good podcast

But I wouldn't sit down to watch it Frankly and hey I'm talking about of course The What a Cartoon subject for October And that is a pup named Scooby-Doo The episode is called Now Museum Now You Don't And a pup named Scooby-Doo even though it has an age particularly well,

it's a very important piece of the puzzle of animation improving for television in the 90s because Tom Ruger was the guy who developed that show. He was poached by Warner Brothers. He developed shows like Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs. It was a vital part of that era of Warner Brothers animation. You can see a tiny bit of that spirit

in a pup named Scooby-Doo. I know nothing about this and I don't care about Scooby-Doo at all and I wasn't paying much attention when you were watching it. Is this basically Scooby-Doo? do babies? Yes, it's basically the real Ghostbusters meets Muppet babies. And if I haven't sold you then with that pitch, then you'll never buy in. So the whole crew, they knew each other as kids.

I'm sure there's no rock solid Scooby-Doo canon, but it's just a reimagining like, what if they were kids? And what if we give characters last names, which they had not given them before this iteration? Okay. That's something I learned on the podcast because Henry was the producer on that one. So they couldn't make them all the same age as a puppy do? Because otherwise, he'd have to be pretty old. Yeah, I guess he's some kind of a mortal dog creature. Or maybe, like, when scrappy ages enough, he becomes Scooby-Doo. I'm not sure what the lore is there, but we had fun with it.

And I guess part of the idea is if these are teenagers in 1960, then the show takes place in the doo-wop era, which is why all the music is very doo-wop-y. Oh, you must have enjoyed that. Oh, yeah, the intro, they got a guy who sounds like Audrey, too, from Little Shop Before. Oh, that's great. But, yes, look forward to that. We're kicking it off. It's the spooky season.

and that's really the only spooky thing we're doing because we have our regular episodes of Talking Futurama and Talking of the Hill for people on our Patreon at patreon.com slash Talking Simpson signed up for five bucks a month. You get to hear the miniseries episodes and the Talking Futurama

is all about an episode called Benderama which we recorded in June I believe so I'm a little fuzzy on the details all I know is that Bender finds a way to duplicate himself and so we eventually end up with a world of millions and billions of vendors and it's a real problem for the world of Futurama

so look forward to that in October. I guess it's kind of scary in that respect. And for our Talking of the Hell episode, we're covering the episode Hellenium, which is the obligatory Y2K episode that every sitcom had to do in late 1999. And it's basically how does the Hill family deal with the idea of a Y2K apocalypse?

And it's all very fun. So it's a good one? It's a really good one, yeah. Okay, I haven't watched a lot of King of the Hill. I mean, we're in the middle of a very good season. And of course, I think it's like just a very, very consistently great show up until maybe the end of season 8. and then I don't think it goes down in quality that much,

but four especially is a great season. And our what a cartoon movie for October? I guess it's a little for the spooky seasons. It's more autumnal than anything. We're covering West Anderson's fantastic Mr. Fox. It's about a deadbeat dad who risks it all and endangers his family for one last score. I think listeners will be terrified by your opinions.

I think so about Wes Anderson and George Clooney. Yeah, because Henry is the big West Anderson fanboy, and you have always been like not like cold on him, but sort of lukewarm, not impressed easily. I've given him on a try, and I was there in the beginning, and I was like, okay, not for me. And I keep trying to go back. I feel like I'm failing him in some way.

Maybe Henry can explain to you why this movie works so well for him. I really want to know. It's going to be a fun podcast. We already recorded the history segment. That's two hours alone, so it's going to be a very long one. In case anyone cares, I'm kind of in the middle of Bob and Henry when it comes to West Anderson opinions. Yeah, it's not going to be a West Anderson hate fest, by the way, on my.

I'm trying to meet West Anderson Halfway. It's very easy to do because things are so symmetrical. It's easy to tell where Halfway is in a West Anderson shot. There's a certain charm to his films that even you can't deny. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad he can do his own thing and he's being funded by a billionaire. Like the one good person being funded by a billionaire. And that is it for the month of October for Talking Simpsons.

Again, we have recorded all of this stuff. So I'm looking forward to all of it rolling out and getting comments on things I said months ago. So now it's time to talk about what we've been playing and watching that's not necessarily related to podcasting and as for playing, well, I've done what I normally do and I turn what I play into homework. So I played through Donkey Kong Bonanza and I played through MetalGo Solid Delta Snake Eater. And because I have recorded Retronauts about these, I will not talk about them here. You must go out and seek out those Retronauts podcast, but I had a great time with both games. And I talked a lot about them on another podcast. So check those out. Yeah, I believe

the Bonanza episode is available now and the Snake Eater one is coming soon with some great guests. So look forward to that on another podcast. So I'm not really a Donkey Kong fan, but I've been constantly hearing sounds. Ooh, banana. Yes. Sounds of Bonanza while I've been working, because Bob would have the sound on.

Now, I am a fan of Metal Gear Solid 3, but when Bob plays that, he uses his headphones, so I can't hear anything. Yeah, it's a sneaking mission, Nina. Yeah, I understand. And things can get noisy here sometimes, especially with Louie around.

But I want to hear the voice acting and some of the music. That's me encouraging you to play it for yourself. It's on your PS5. I do want to play it. You should. I think it took me 15 hours and I was being very thorough trying to get all the codec calls and everything.

You know what? I bet I could get a free code from Van Gamer. For the PC? Is there a PC version? Yeah, there is, yeah. Okay, yeah. But I own it. I own it.

True, but I can get my own copy on my own computer. You want your own Chivos. I see what this is about. No. I don't care. Nina, a frequent platinumer of games. And yeah, those are my games I've been playing. I'm looking forward to a bunch of other games

coming up in this fall. I forget what I'm playing now. I guess I'm playing the new Kirby DLC for the Switch 2, which is really great. Oh, yeah, that looks really cute. And I'm now playing through some of the Klonoa games for a future podcast, not on this network. Oh, yeah, that thing. Yes, you hate Klonoa. I've never played Klonoa, but the design bothers me.

There's just too much going on. I enjoy Kloa as an Ernest Pucci. And actually, I think, released the same year as Pucci was released into the wild. Well, today you taught me the difference between the Kloa and the first game and the Kloa and the second game. differences in their designs. And he looks much more like Sonic in the second one, which I don't like. I think they were going for that. Yeah. And they just expand the amount of friends he has, which are all like Sonic-like characters. I think both designs need to be a lot more simplified, but he does look a lot better in the first game. And now I'll talk about what I've been watching

this past month. Well, I'm glad Nina's here because Nina and I watch everything together, except for what I watch at the gym. That's when I usually watch like anime or TV shows. It's just something I can mindlessly focus on while I'm using the elliptical machine. But we usually watch like a movie every night. Occasionally I'll take a night off of watching movies to work on playing a game, especially if it's a long one. But all the choices I've chosen for this podcast, Nina has seen all of these. And one of them is one Nina made me watch. Yes. Oh, it's a good movie. Yeah, it's a good movie. Yeah, it's a good movie. The end. Moving on. No, it's a good movie that no one talks about ever. Yeah. I'm sorry, it was nominated for Best Animated Feature, right? It won. It won. It won. Oh, so it won best feature. Yeah. Okay. And that's a good movie. And that's a good movie. And that's, why it's astounding that it doesn't really come up anymore. And I guess that studio didn't really make anything. Gore Vibinsky didn't make another one of these. And maybe that's why the conversation kind of ended. Yeah, which is kind of weird, but because we watched the special features on the Blu-ray, and it seemed like he had a lot of fun working on it. As did Dan Hedder,

John Hedder's twin brother. Yeah. And then we realized, oh, it's his twin. A spinning image of me 2005, I think. Yeah, he did kind of look like you. But yeah, Rango really good. I don't have a lot to say about it. I feel like it will be a future what a cartoon movie. It's just so different. Prince. Yeah. And yeah, I really liked it. And I hope Quora Vibinsky does more because, again, I keep saying this, and I'm sure it's tedious and knowing at this point. I want the PG-13 animated movie to be a normal thing. And I think Rango is still a PG, but it is like creeping over to the 13 world. There's like alcohol, there's talk of death. The characters are not cute and cuddly. I kind of like that about that. Yeah. It's like a bunch of really like grotesque desert animals with very realistic textures. I remember when I first saw this, the theater when it came out. I was so impressed about how it looked. I was wondering like, oh, how will it hold up? And it still looks

amazing. And they're all very asymmetrical. But yeah, it looks very good and look forward to this in the future. But before we get to year 10 of what a cartoon movie, I think we'll have covered Rango. Moving on, a movie nobody wants to talk about Terminator 3, which Nina and I watched together because we just watched Terminator 2

at our local theater. Just a screening of that, nothing special about it. But I really fell back in love with that movie, and it made me think I want to watch all the other Terminator, even though I know they're all not very good. But this one did surprise me because the bar is low based on what I know about the future movies. And this one is just rehashing a lot of what we saw in Terminator 2. But it kind of grabbed me a little bit. And I was sort of impressed by a lot of things, especially the ending.

Yeah, I wasn't expecting too much going into it. As for like our history with the first two movies, like we both thought before watching Terminator 2, rewatching it, that the first one is better than the second one, right? Yes, yes. That's, I want to be a Terminator 1 snob. But whenever I rewatch Terminator 2, I'm like, I don't know. This one is kind of perfect. And they have a lot more money. And I know that doesn't make for a better movie, but he is using every dollar. Yeah, it kind of won me over more this time. So now I do think T2 is a little better than the first Terminator. And as for this one, the third one, I kind of enjoyed it in the same way we both also enjoyed Robocop 2 and 3. Yeah, yeah. I think those just get a lot of guff because you can't out do Robocop. And, of course, it's not Verhoeven making the sequels.

And it's not Cameron making this one. But they're still trying. And I think in the future, they're not going to be trying as hard. Once we go past Terminator 3, we are going to watch the other ones. I'm sorry to say this on the air. I've seen Genesis, and that was really bad. I've downloaded Salvation. Well, yeah, like, if you compare it to the first two, it's not going to hold up.

But if you understand it's its own thing, it's pretty entertaining. going into it knowing that this is not going to be Terminator 1 or 2, and you know what, it's like 90 minutes, it's fine. Yes, the ending kind of contradicts the theme of the other movies, but I still liked it. I didn't really see it coming. I really enjoyed how bleak the ending was, like, not so far after 9-11 to deliver a message that bleak that,

I guess later Terminator's might retcon, I don't know. So Terminator 3, other choice here. And then Toy Story. So, I mean, I have a lot of thoughts about Toy Story. go back to our 2019 toy story podcast and what a cartoon movie by the way we've covered all the toy stories on what a cartoon movie if you want to check that out at patreon.com slash talking simpsons ten dollar level gets you all of those and it was fun to see it in the theater because as I explained on that podcast from six years ago I was there when it was first in theaters and it was sort of a moment to be part of it was very exciting to be at the first CGI feature and realize I'm on the ground floor of something I didn't know what it was. it would eventually erase the thing I like, which is 2D animation. I was naive to assume, like, oh, this is another thing that can coexist with 2D. No, that was not the future.

But it was fun to go back to this and seeing it on a big screen. I think you agree with me, Nina. It does really hold up. They knew what they were capable of and they didn't push things too far. Oh, totally. When this movie first came out, I was kind of against seeing it ever because I don't like how it looked. I much preferred classically hand-drawn animation. I didn't like CG, I didn't like 3D.

I eventually warmed up to it and I think this was only my second time seeing it. I saw a Toy Story for the first time, I don't know, like 15 years ago. So relatively recently compared to most people because a lot of people saw it when they were a kid. But seeing on the big screen, it impressed me even more because you would think 1995 computer animation seen on a big screen

that it would just look weird in some spots, really janky noticeable repeating patterns or whatever no it looks really good yeah i can only tell a few textures are kind of low res which just shows that disney and pixar did not bother touching it up which is great although they did edit out the initial disney logo that was created for the original film which includes a piece of music that's part of the whole opening so they did edit the movie in some way but they just kind of do that with everything that eventually ends up on disney plus yeah but i don't remember that part so it didn't bother me i'm sure you noticed it right away That's why I'm keeping the Blu-Rays, because that, I mean, it's not just a logo, it's just this little ditty they wrote that I find very heartwarming and nice.

I will say, I think it's almost a perfect movie. I just hate Randy Newman's music so much. When Buzz is about to attempt flying out the window and I will go sailing no more. It just completely ruins that scene for me. That's more Louis Armstrong, but you understand. I almost started laughing in the theater when I hear that because I forgot about it. Well, you know what? I kind of like it, even though I have no Randy Newman experience.

I think that was the first time I ever heard him in my life was in Toy Story. And I thought, okay, I don't know who this guy is, but he's singing. He's somewhere. Well, you know what? Anything is better than a needle drop. Yeah, yeah. It would just be a crappy needle drop if it was made by anyone else these days. And I, like, I pointed this out on our Toy Story podcast, and it's probably annoying at this point, but I'll say it again.

I like how nasty this movie is. Yes. And as these movies go on, and I know taste change, kids want different things, they get softer and softer and softer to the point where there's not really a true villain in Toy Story for we have a whole podcast about it but I like how mean it is I like how Woody is always screaming I like how he is the villain and I like how the third act is about characters

awaiting their grizzly execution and possibly torture before that yeah Woody is such a jerk and I love him for it and yeah those are the three movies I watched this month that I wanted to talk about check out our letterboxed our letter boxes letterboxes letterboxes because Nina and I are both on there

I'm Bob Servo of course Nina can tell you her screen name on there if you want to I can say, it's space coyotol. That's my old Twitter name. So that's Space Coyote with an L at the end instead of an E. Because once again, I couldn't get Space Coyote. And as far as other stuff, well, Nina and I have been keeping busy in Vancouver, if you want to know. No, we're not going to Japan yet.

We'll be there soon. We don't have to go to Japan or L.A. We have plenty of entertainment in Vancouver. Vancouver is like a small northern L.A. slash Japan. Yeah, the entertainment comes to us. Yeah, exactly. They make all the movies here. We don't need to go to La La La Land.

But we've been really busy here, and I'm sure Nina can film. in the blanks, but some things we did, I want to talk about, number one, the Lion King Musical in Vancouver. Now, I've wanted to see this for a very long time, and I know it's kind of cheesy, but it ruled. I know you enjoyed it as well, Nina. Yeah, I saw it in Vegas in the early 2010s. It was like in the last month when it was there, I think. I was not that impressed by it when I first saw it. It just, to me, it felt like a rushed version of the Lion King. By the way, I'm not a big Lion King fan to begin with either. On Letterbox, I gave it like three out of five. I'm like, yes, it's good, but it's not like

great movie to me. Yeah, I've softened on it or hardened on it, whatever you want to say. I don't like it as much. And every time I watch it, I can see things that will later show up in Shrek, like all the pop culture things that kind of annoy me that I'm sure I loved as a kid. But I do think the songs are really great, which is why I want to see the musical version. Also, you know, people have probably seen ads for it by now, how good the costumes and the puppets are in that. So while I wasn't impressive the first time I saw it, I liked it a lot more this second time. I'm not sure why. I thought maybe it was maybe faster, like rush through more in the Vegas version. I looked into this. It seems like not much was different,

aside from maybe it being 20 minutes shorter. Some people have reported. Maybe the performers had contempt for the Las Vegas audience. Well, like I said, it was their last month there. Maybe they were all very tired. Yes. If you can see this, I mean, it's been playing for 30 years. You might have had a chance by now, but I'm a puppet fan. Nina knows this. She has to suffer through my love of puppets, and it has every kind of puppet on stage. Yes. Which one was your favorite? Well, of course, it's Zazu. Oh, yes. It's the puppet with the most articulation.

It's the stage magic thing where there is a puppeteer, and he is sort of, like, dressed in a theme to match the puppets. He's not hiding himself, but you're only looking at the puppet, and it's a very well-done puppet, and the puppet, it was right with us in the balcony at some point. Yeah, the puppeteer's outfit was cool, too, though. Yeah, yeah, it was to match the Zazoo theming. Yeah, it was like a British outfit. What did you think of the Timon and Pumba puppets? The Timon and Pumma puppets, the Puma one was nice.

I thought the Timon... Well, it was a man, right? Mm-hmm. How did this work again? It was a man, like, kind of like doing a conga line with a giant Timoan stand-up puppet. It was kind of like the OLA puppet. Right, right.

But it was like as tall as the man, or at least... It's like chest high, I think. The puppeteer was moving the arms on, like, six. And I think Timon's feet were attached to the puppeteer's feet. Yeah. Well, in that case, I thought the performance was great. I thought the performer wearing just like a pure green outfit was kind of odd. And also, the characters are very stylized, but it looked like Timon came out of the Disney store. Like, he just walked out of the Disney store.

It was like a giant plus you could buy where Pumba much more stylized. Every other character is stylized. But this is just like merchandisable Timon. I don't know. To me, it felt like they both were very much straight out of the Disney design. Like, whereas the lions are all like represented. by humans where, like, masks that don't cover up too much of their face.

And the masks are on top of their heads, right? Yes. If I recall correctly. So that's all stylized. And then all of a sudden, you see Timone and Pumba, and it kind of took me out of it for a second. Yeah.

Because they're just the Disney characters. Yeah, I guess it's like a moment of levity. So it's something, you're looking at something very bizarre after seeing, like, the kind of regal stylized versions of the other characters. But I don't know.

I don't think Timone, I don't think they pushed that far enough. I don't know if he ever had any different designed for the stage show before that. Hmm, but everything else was like super beautiful, though. Like the set designs, incredible. Yeah, and like, they don't like come into the audience and interact with you, but the entire theater is part of the performance.

It starts with the animals going down the aisles. Yeah. And then going up to the stage. Including people in giant elephant and giraffe puppets. The giraffe, I can't even call a puppet. It's like a giraffe outfit. It's like, yeah, they're on stilts, right? They're on stilts.

Like their legs and arms are on stilts. So yes, we wholeheartedly recommend the. Lion King, the most popular and successful Broadway show ever, probably. Yeah, it's bound to come somewhere near major city by you, or if you live in a major city, maybe it's already come by. Yeah, and who needs Tokyo when we can go to pickle fest in Vancouver? That's what I also wanted to talk about. So I guess it's normally a Toronto thing?

Yeah, it was like Toronto thing, and this is like the first year it came to Vancouver, I think. And I'm a man who loves a pickle. Oh, yeah. Nina, more a fan of the Asian style of pickles. Is that correct? Yeah, they're more mild. smaller portions as well. And if you go to Pickle Fest,

you will get sick of the taste of pickles. Oh, yeah. We shouldn't have gotten that, like, tall boy of pickle beer. Yeah. Now, pickle beer may sound disgusting, and in some cases it is. But that just depends on how much pickle is in the pickle beer.

The kind that we got was essentially chilled brine. Yeah, like, I've had some really good pickle beer where the pickle taste is very subtle, so it's more like a slightly salty beer. But this was just, like, sipping on pickle juice, and it made me not want to crave pickle things.

We had a number of pickle samples, but then when it came to getting ice cream, I did not want to get the pickle ice cream. At first, we were like all gung-ho for it. We were like, yeah, we got to get the pickle ice cream. And then time, we were like almost done with the tallboy of pickle beer. We were like, let's just get normal ice cream. I think I got like vanilla or something very plain like that, just to scrape the pickle off of my tongue. And speaking of the Lion King, before I move on to introduce Nina's segment here, I want to point out the fact that we are seeing another Disney musical, but not here in Vancouver. When we go to Japan, we are seeing the Aladdin musical.

We wanted to see the Back to the Future Musical. But that is sold out to Hell and Back, and it's running for what, like two years now into the future? It's running until like spring of next year. It got an extension because it's so popular. And I thought for sure we could get tickets, but it's booked for months. Yeah, like maybe April is the next time you can get tickets to see that play. And we've heard, I've seen it twice.

I've seen it on Broadway and in Seattle. Nina saw it with me in Seattle. But it's also excited to see something else. So Nina found tickets to the Aladdin musical and it's all in Japanese. I'm looking forward to seeing that and hearing all my favorite songs in Japanese. Now that you know a little bit of Japanese. It's a movie that you're so familiar with

that I'm sure, even if you don't understand what they're saying, you still know what they're saying. It's all in Japanese. Yes, and I'll be eating my Marty McFries. You can't get that because you're not going to the Back to Future Musical. I was also excited about the Back to the Future theme food. I know.

There was Marty McFries, and what was it, like, Biff's Beef? I think it was Biff. It was a play on beef? Was it like Beefsteak meatlo or something? Something like that, yeah. I think it was Biff Spaghetti. Oh, was Biff Spaghetti? Was it with meat sauce or something?

Yeah, yeah. And Lorraine's something else. There's like George's Chocolate Milk. Chocolate milk, yeah, chocolate milkshake. I guess that's from the movie. Doc brown sugar bubble tea, I think. I mean, you can't beat Marty McFries. No, that's the best pun.

So maybe there'll be some kind of like Japanese pun on any of the Aladdin character names? It's Aada Jin in Japanese, so Adagin and Tonic. Oh, yes. We can do that. Or, like, I'll have some Jafrize. I'm looking forward to that. You know, that theater, they're the same theater that puts on the Back to the Future Musical. They put on a lot of musicals, especially ones adapted from English.

In some performances, you can rent special subtitle glasses. And I really want to get those for Bob, but they don't offer English subtitles for Aladdin. Oh, I'll have it open on Disney Plus while the performance is going. Salon, I lost my place. It'll be a big scary foreigner, so they can't stop you. They can't stop me at all. But, yeah, that's what I've been doing. Now, Nina, now normally I have a share, talk to the audience document, and Henry will, like, literally type in the things he'll be talking about, but Nina chose to leave this as a surprise.

So, Nina, what have you been up to? What video games have you been playing? Well, you know me. I don't play games that often. With my heart, you do. Well, I'm busy. I'm busy designing merchandise for games. That's true. That's true. I'm trying to, I mean, Nina is a gamer, by the way. I did marry a gamer girl, but it's fallen off a bit, and I'm trying to get her back on the gaming horse. Well, there's too many good games out there. Yeah. I think my gaming style is opposite of you and Henry, because you guys play a lot of big studio titles. Yes, and I'm not saying Henry doesn't do this, but I try to play a lot of little games because that helps break up all of the AAA $80 games for me.

Well, I don't have time for those. I like to play quick little indie games. Yeah. So what I play recently is called Endless Monday Dreams and Deadlines. It's not new. It came out two years ago, and it's a visual novel where he plays a corporate artist who's stuck in the office alone working over the weekend to meet a month. Monday deadline. That's because you procrastinated too much. And you can't even remember what you're meant to draw. So you start off staring at your computer and you have several options like calling a co-worker, playing a mindless mobile game or wandering around the office trying to draw your memory. And the art style is very 90s anime, which appeals to me because I loved anime in high

school and you may have heard me talk about it in the Slayers episode. It feels very nostalgic and it's charmingly low-res. What is the game called? Endless Monday. Dreams and deadlines. So you're kind of doing a work simulator. Pretty much you're an artist so you don't have to draw the thing. That's true. I guess there is no podcasting game yet. There's also an anti-AI generate art through line which makes

it particularly relevant to modern times. And it takes about like two to three hours to beat and you can save it almost any point so I recommend it. Also I played Citizen Sleeper 2 the sequel to Citizen Sleeper which Bob has played. Yes, I love Citizen Sleeper. Actually I played that on

my last trip to San Francisco when We did our last live show there. That was like my entertainment is just playing whatever, that 10-hour game. Oh, how long ago was that? 2024. That was the January of 2024, yeah. I'm sure you already explained it back then,

but let me re-explain what kind of game this is. So it's a sci-fi RPG series where you play as an escaped android on a space station with a broken body and no memories. And you go around the station performing tasks to stay alive, make money, make friends, and try to figure out who you are exactly. And you go through several day cycles,

and it's dice-based so you start every day with five random dice and the numbers on the dice correspond with your energy so if you have to perform a task you aren't skilled at you have to spend more dice points to complete that task otherwise you risk injuring yourself or messing something up it's very addictive yeah and the dice thing it's kind of like the spoon theory which is used to describe what it's like to live with a limited amount of mental or physical energy

like you have so many spoons per day and you have to spend two spoons to do easy tasks and six spoons to do hard tasks. And this basically gamified that with dice points instead of spoons. Yeah, and I'll say if this sounds interesting to people, the first game is often on sale for five bucks. So, and again, it's like an eight to ten hour game.

So if you like that, it's easy to slide into the next one, although I have not made time for it yet. And you should play the first one before the second one, I would say, because Citizen Sleeper 2 is direct continuation of one. But in this one, you get to put together a crew and fly all around space on a little spaceship. I don't want to spoil too much, but like the Deva said, the first game is meant to convey what it's like to live with a sickness or disability,

basically like being a broken robot. And this one, the plot explores that theme even further. And I liked it more than one, because in this one, you don't have to inject yourself with stabilizers, if you remember that aspect. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so that's something you don't have to worry about anymore. You do still have to feed yourself, though, to stay alive. And in this one, if you push yourself too hard,

you can end up with glitch dice that don't work, which can really limit what you can do in a day. I think I've had glitch dice this week. This is my fourth podcast, and we also recorded the movie podcast this week, so it's been a very busy week. So if any of this sounds relatable to you, I highly recommend Citizen Sleeper 1 and 2.

Is that it for gaming then? I've got a game for you, Nina. You're going to love it. It'll last you the rest of your life if you start now with the way you play games. It's called The 100 Line Last Defense Academy. There are 100 endings, and I've gotten eight of them.

You'll see me play it up until I turn 50, I think. I think it's when I'll get the last ending. But you know how I feel about Dangan Rompah? And this looks very much like Dangan Rompah. Well, you like two of the Dangan Rampa games. Yeah, certain aspects of it. Well, I'm excited about the Dangan Rampa 2 remake. Oh, yeah.

I still can't believe that's happening. It's including an entire new scenario as long as the first game. That's an alternate scenario, I guess. Like, what if things happen differently? Listeners out there know what happened in Dangan Rompah V3? Mm-hmm. you would think what I'm thinking right now, which is how the hell do they continue the series?

Well, I think they continue the series by building off of previous games. And that is the sneaky cheat because Dagan Rampa 2x2 equals 4. That's technically, okay, they secretly made 4. Although, because of what happens in 3, they can't make any sequels

after that point in time. I will say, all of the 100 line last defense academy is alternate scenarios. Like, what if this happened instead? So I feel like that is what that creator is thinking of now. Like, oh, I can easily make

an alternate Dangan Rampa 2 or Dangan Rampa 1. I can't talk about how much I hated... This is the place to talk about Dangan Rompah. Okay. The Talking Simpsons podcast network. I'm kidding. Nobody cares about this. I just want to talk about how much I hated Dangan Rompah V3.

Just the ending. Yes, the ending bothered me so much, and you were not awake when I finished it, and I was so angry about it and wanted to vent about it to someone that I went on the Talking Simpsons Discord gaming channel to vent to people. We'll say polarizing. I say brave. Sure, brave, stupid.

Well, Nina, you're going to see me playing a lot of Kodaka games. I mean, that's fine. I like the art style. The art style is great, yeah. As long as I don't have to hear it. The music is fantastic. The music is good. Sorry, I got us on a side track here.

This is going to be a shorter episode, so I had to talk about Dangan Rampa 2x2. Well, we're able to start talking about movies, though. Yes. And Nina watches all of her movies with me, except for the ones she watches with friends, which we won't talk about on here. Because I haven't seen them. Well, I'm usually very lukewarm on those ones. That's true.

That's true. So, Nina, this is going to be surprised to me. What are the three movies that you chose that we watched together? So the first one is The Girl Who Lept Through Time. Right. And we saw that at the Cinematheque in Vancouver because they were running a series of films that the director directed. It's Kobayashi, is that the name? Nobuhiko Obayashi.

Obayashi, got it. Okay. Of house. I'm thinking of the Kobayashi maneuver. The Kobayashi Maroo. Yes, there you go. It's not a maneuver. Well, it's a Maroo.

It's a Maroo. It's a Maroover. Yeah, he's most famous for doing House Or Houseu if you want to call it that I think we just call it House now Even though there's another horror movie called House And then of course there's Dr. House And we respect him and his choices

If you say the J horror movie House People know what you're talking about So yeah, the Cinematack did a director series screening Of his 80s films And we saw this and School in the Crosshairs I wanted to talk more about this one though I've always wanted to see this one because the novel that it's based on is so famous.

There's so many adaptations out there, including the anime loose sequel by Hosoda, which I have seen. Yeah, and I don't know if it's a spoiler, but I was surprised by the plot of this film because if people bring it up, you think of, well, if you know what it is, you think, oh, it's a time loop movie, right? It's a very famous time loop movie.

Not really. Not in the same way other time loop movies execute on that idea. Yeah, I've heard people call it the first time loop movie but yeah like when she starts the same day over once she freaks out about it and then she tries to figure out a solution to her problem even though it's like her first cycle she gives up very easily yeah so there really is only one loop right yeah so could you even call it a loop it's just one cycle it's like one counts as something at least i guess i made the loop signal with my hand i wish she would would have at least gone through one more loop yeah the same day though

Yeah, I mean, I like more advanced versions of that concept. Like, was it Happy Death Day? Things like that. And Run Lola Run. Yeah, like, when we still had it reach the time-leaping premise halfway through the runtime, I was like, what is this movie? It's not what I expect at all, especially having seen the anime sequel, because that has, like, rapid fire time traveling.

I'm surprised you didn't want to talk more about school in the crosshairs because that was more of the unknown quantity. Well, we could talk a little bit about it. We have the time. Believe me, on this podcast. Well, can I finish talking about this? Please, please. So everything is shot like a dream sequence.

And when things start getting weird, the house style 80s video effects come out. And that's when things start getting exciting. Yeah. But that's like way later in the movie. And I thought there would be more of it. Yeah, the other movie had a lot more of the cheesy effects that I love. The very, very handmade effects that he's kind of famous for, at least this period of his career. It's so janky, but I love it.

It's so charming. And the ending. The ending, it's so outrageous that it made people in the theater laugh. And groan. And I guess, I mean, it was in my letterbox review. I don't consider it a spoiler because you won't understand what I mean. But it is the closest I've seen something come to, I have to go now. My planet needs me.

Out of nowhere. Well, you said that was the first time you saw that kind of ending. Right. But then in the other movie, it happens again. Yeah, in school and the crosshairs. Yeah. I got to say, though, so Nina, you and I watch a lot of movies in theaters. And I think I've talked about this before on other podcasts.

It's something that is like, water torture to me is when you get a certain vibe in the audience where everyone is just constantly snickering at everything. And I think you wear earplugs now so you can tune that out, but I don't, not yet. And School in the Cross Airs was something that I was enjoying, but people next to me were basically laughing at everything that wasn't a realistic depiction of human life. If something was the slightest bit heightened, they're like, and I cannot stand that. I'd rather have people just talking during the movie because I don't like the patronizing attitude. people have towards old movies or old ideas or old effects. It's like, yes, I realize we are living in the future and we know things and things have advanced and we have better effects, but can we just kind of meet things on the

level that they're giving us? Well, I think they're both infuriating, but I would rather take snickering over talking, depending on the movie. Like, I expected people to be laughing at this because when you go into it, it was going to be really zany. Yeah. Like when we watch Carrie, there was a lot of laughing, derisive laughter in that. That was not the appropriate movie for that.

When we saw Carrie, somebody called me a bitch. I don't think I've told the story on the pocket. I have told the story in the pockets. Okay, okay. But. You don't sound very amused by that story. No, because it upset me. Okay.

I thought it was funny. Well, you think everything is funny. It's true. It's how I survive. But you know, during the school in the crosshairs screening, I forgot about the knee slapper. Oh, yeah. Who's saying next to the literal knee slapper? This guy, I mean, it's not even just a figure of speech.

Every time something silly happened, the knee was slapped. I'm glad he was having a good time. Yeah. But that was annoying. I mean, you might have to just start clapping. And then when the movie was over, he kept slapping his knee over and over again for some reason. We're going to docks this guy. And I want our listeners to find him because he ruined.

No, it was fine. But I just, I don't know. If you're going into a movie with that attitude, I'm like, why are you here? Don't you know what this is? When he turned to his friend, he was like, oh, man, I couldn't stop laughing. Yeah. Really? I couldn't tell.

Well, it was weird because I couldn't hear his laughter, but it could hear the knee slapping. Yeah. Maybe it's because I was wearing earplugs. Just a constant loud crack every time there was something. It is the, again, I talked about this before. Although, like, I thought I was alone. I'm like, I might just joyless or persnickety, but then I saw Griffin Newman complain about the same thing from Black Check saying. He was saying something like, I was having a nervous breakdown because I was seeing a movie.

And people were laughing at it like it was a comedy. I'm like, what do you think this is? And he was just like articulating the same issue I had with people having this a patronizing stance towards a movie. There are certain screenings where it's like, this is a bad movie. We're going to laugh together. And I get that. But it's happened so much at movies I thought we were all just coming to enjoy, especially movies that are rarely screened for an audience.

Yeah, and you've brought this up before, but this happened to you during Susperia? Susperia and Vertigo as well in the Bay Area. What is so funny about Vertigo? I don't know. I mean, it's old, ha-ha. Oh, this effect is weird, ha-ha. But, yeah, Susperia was weird. And I'm glad we saw it in our city last year because I went to the first 4K screening of it in San Francisco

when that was originally going around. And people were just, like, howling at the movie. And yes, silly heightened things happen in it. But I was so worried it was going to happen again in Vancouver. And it was great. The audience was totally on board. They understood what the movie was. It's a little cheesy, but I can't think of any moment where I'd laugh at it.

Yeah. Well, now we're going to see it again. Yes, next month. We're going to see it again with the Goblin. Goblins. Well, one of the remaining goblins. The Head Goblin. The Head Goblin and his Goblin band.

Yes, Goblin did the soundtrack. And we saw them play the soundtrack live with the movie Demons in 2023. Which really enhance that. movie. It really did. If I saw that movie at home, I'd probably be like, uh,

2.5 stars. I don't think I would have liked it very much, but when the goblins are there, gobbling it up. Raise it to a whole 3.5 stars. Yeah, looking forward to that.

I forgot that's next month. That's great. Sorry, we got sidetrack. So the girl left through time and School and the Crossairs and I want to see more of his movies. We didn't even talk about

what the movie is about. Oh, School and the Crosshairs is crazy because it's about an ordinary girl who is developing psychic powers and then a Dracula-style alien? comes to a man from Venus so he is an alien

yes yeah technically he kind of reminded me of David Bowing Labyrinth a bit but like a creepy uncle version but with like party city Dracula outfit and then he tries to take over the school and the earth and he has like a little

minion who is a high school girl who turns the school into like a fascist society and then there has to be a psychic battle at the end between the protagonist and this evil girl and you said it was kind of like carry whereas I compared it to the faculty and disturbing behavior.

I think all of those comparisons are valid. But I don't know where to watch these movies. That's why, like, after we saw the girl who left through time, I thought, like, I want to see more of this guy's stuff, but it's going to be hard to find. I think I meant to go to the Torrance. I kind of wish we saw all of his movies. Yeah, yeah.

There were, like, four of them. No, not things I normally would have ever saw on my own or, like, have seen on a streaming network or anything like that. But we got to move on. What are the other movies, Nina? I want to talk about presents. Presence. Presence.

That's a new one. No, presence. But Nina, Christmas is like a month and a half away. Presents was a present because we both liked it. Stephen Soderberg. Yes. If you watch Red Letter Media, you probably know this already. I hope you didn't watch the spoiler part of that video.

Yeah, don't. We actually stopped the video and then we watched the movie and then we went back to it. But yes, it's a Steve Soderberg movie that kind of came and went and it didn't get a great reception. I think no thanks to the way it was marketed because it was marketed as a horror movie, not just a horror movie, but the scariest thing you'll ever see. and it's not a horror. I think it was marketed as something akin to paranormal activity where it's like, oh, you're going to see real ghost tricks happen on screen, folks. It is very much like ghost trick.

Yeah. It's a lot of long POV shots of a presence inside a home that's recently occupied by family, and they're going through emotional issues. Right. Like, you don't know what the presence is exactly, but the daughter can sense it and it starts affecting your life. And so a lot of people thought it was very boring because, like, as a POV, whatever it is, you're just going around the house

should I say you investigating I mean it is a POV movie yeah it's the first non-porn POV movie you are the audience you are playing well you have no control obviously it's a movie but you are

whatever entity this is in the house and it's like kind of voyeuristic in which it's kind of like moving around listening in on conversations I can say without spoilers it can have effects on things this ghost which is why it feels like a video game this feels like an unmade indie game

where you are a presence in the house and you have to prevent things from happening using whatever powers this thing has. Yeah, and that's where it's a lot like ghost trick. And it also is kind of like going home. Oh, gone home. Oh, sorry, gone home. Yeah, going home is the sequel.

Oh, okay. No, the prequel. I'm making a joke. Okay. Well, now it sounds like an idiot. I have not played gone home. Oh, well, if you got three hours, it's great. Hmm, okay.

I'm sure I could get it for like $2 nowadays. You might already have it. Oh, yeah, I might actually. That's very possible. Yeah, but so many people thought it was boring, but it really held my interest. Yeah, me too. And it is only, I think it's less than 90 minutes.

Oh yeah, like Soderberg likes to keep his movies at 90 minutes. And they get everything they can out of the concept. And I think once you see the reveal and once it's explained to you, because I didn't get it, you can then rewatch the movie and fully recontextualized everything and it's very rewarding. Yeah, the ending is super effective. Like, it kind of made the entire movie for me because, as you said, it recontextualizes everything to the point where I want to see it again. Yeah, yeah, I do want to go back to it. Maybe, like, on a flight or something, perhaps to Japan.

That'll knock out 10% of my flight. It's a pretty good flight movie, actually. Yeah, yeah. Well, actually, no. Maybe it's better watching in a room where it's very quiet. Also, creepy stuff is happening, and what if the flight attendant walks by and says, sir? What are you watching? Or, they might think you're watching, like, security camera footage or something.

Yeah. Or, like, body cam footage. It feels like an indie movie, and I mean that in the best way. It's very economical and smart. I wonder what the budget is on that thing. I mean, it's all filmed inside of one house, and there are known actors like Lucy Lou, she's in it. And Soderberg was the cinematographer for most of it, apparently. And, like, I guess he was carrying around the rig or whatever that was filming it, yeah.

He was wearing, like, special clothing that didn't make any noise. Sneaking suit. Yes, he developed a special sneaking suit just for this. So, yeah, that movie is Presence, P-R-E-N-C-E, and so we have Presence. What else? I was hoping to include more movies I had not seen before, but. I have not been, like, super impressed by some of the new movies I've seen this month. So I want to talk about sleepless in Seattle.

So it's a stone cold classic, of course, but Bob had never seen it. And had you seen it before? We watched it, okay. Yeah, like, Bob had never seen it. And I wanted Bob to see it to redeem Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan as a movie couple after You've Got Mail. Evil film. Yes. No, did you know that a lot of people prefer you've got mail to this?

That's crazy. But I guess it's because they have scenes together. Yes. I think people know. gimmick of Sleepless in Seattle and that they don't actually meet until the end. Except they kind of do. That took me out of it because I thought that was the premise of the movie and then he kind of sees her in different places.

I think people always forget that part. Yeah. I thought maybe they would catch glimpses of each other at certain points, but no, they actually lock eyes at one point and they even speak like one word to each other. I think we need the premise. Oh, do we? Does it ever know what the premise is? The average Talking Simpsons listener might not be up on their Sleepless in Seattle.

There was a critic parody of this film, but there was never a Simpsons parody of it. So a guy just lost his wife in Chicago. This opens with a very Chicago shot. Yeah, a Chicago graveyard. Yes, for some reason. Where the city rises out of the ground? Yeah, where is that cemetery located? It ends with like a shot of Star Fox 64.

So you'll have to see the entire movie to understand what I'm talking about. He has a young son and they decide to move to Seattle to start a new life because I guess it's too painful to be in Chicago. Meanwhile, Meg Ryan's character is in Maryland and she's newly engaged to a perfectly nice guy. played by Bill Pullman. From Spaceballs. Yes. That's all he's ever done. And Independence Day?

He was also in Mr. Wrong. Okay, yeah. Apparently women do not like to marry Bill Pullman because she doesn't want to marry him. Even though he's super nice, I guess because he has allergies, too many allergies. Floppy hair.

It's the floppy hair. And I guess he have too much of a bland routine together. I think is a good thing, personally. Yeah, it can't all be designing buildings and hanging out with a mop-headed sun. Yeah, Tom Hanks plays an architect, and his son really wants Tom Hanks to start dating again. The son calls the radio station saying, my dad is lonely, he needs a woman, and then Meg Ryan overhears this, and she gets the idea, what if I make this my project?

What if I follow this man to the ends of the earth? And as a ploy, she develops a picture at her newspaper job, like, what if I follow this guy? What if I tried to interview him? Because she falls in love with him based on this radio show appearance, and through a play. a number of circumstances, they end up beating at the very end of the film. Well, she doesn't just like try to stalk him out of nowhere. I think it's because other women are interested in him.

Yes. He kind of goes viral in a way. Yeah, he is like a viral celebrity of the early 90s. Even though he doesn't like keep calling back. Oh, I want to say his son makes a first call and then the radio show host makes him put his father on his line. Right, right. And then he gives this whole spiel

about how sad he is and that turns women on, I guess. Yeah. It works. You tell me. It worked on me. You tell me, I'm sad. So I like to give rom-coms a chance because I'm not made a stone, but a lot of times it involves characters acting irrationally, and it's a peep of mine, and why I am also not the biggest horror fan,

because that genre has the same problem. But I know that for romantic films, they tend to be about the power of love and how it makes characters act on intuition. Rather than reason, for example, Moon's Truck is one of my all-time favorites, and it's about how the full moon. makes Italians go crazy. And it's great.

Very romantic. And back to the future is all about the power of love. Exactly. But it's still hard to not see Meg Ryan's character as completely deranged.

Yeah. And again, Bill Pullman, he's super nice. Like, what's wrong with him? The movie never gives us a fatal flaw for his character

other than, like, he's boring, it doesn't have a good pitch. He's like, well, Tom Hanks' pitch is like, oh, I'm single dead, and I'm very successful and my wife is dead.

And Bill Pullman's just like, well, I'm just very successful. That's all I've got going for me. Oh, by the way, I'm also nice. Yeah. Now, I don't think someone has to be, like, bad in any way to be broken up with. Sometimes two people...

What are you saying, Nina? I hate to break this to you, but I've been thinking about our relationship a lot. Well, this is going live right now. We'll talk about it. Okay, fine. So, two people can be perfectly nice people and decide they're not compatible for each other and break up. Like, that's fine. And I think we do need to see more of that, especially in rom-coms.

But I also didn't get the sense that Meg Ryan's character was super bored of him or anything. Like, I think she still liked him a lot. I got the sense that she was stepping out on Bill Pullman. But also, what about Tom Hanks, like, drew her to him? Because, again, she only hears him once on the radio show. It seems like Bill Pullman's character could be considered too predictable, like too nice, not exciting. That's fair enough.

But, and clearly she likes being spontaneous because of all the things she does in the movie. But nothing about Tom Hanks screams spontaneous or thrill-seeking. Well, the solution is that she's crazy. And we have to ignore that to make it seem more romantic. Maybe she just wanted a broken man. Well, I made the joke that when they get into the elevator at the end of the movie, she does kill the dad and his son. She stabs both of them. But why?

Because she's crazy. I see. She likes a thrill, I guess. Yeah, yeah. She's like, I found you. Now no one can have you. I will say, despite. my citizen throughout parts of the film that ending still gave me the fields as they say it's a nice

ending except when we cut the star fox world that terrible cg at the end is so distracting i guess i should be thankful this was 1992 right 93 i think 93 so just two years before toy story yeah yeah he was like you're i think you were telling me he was recording toy story lines probably while he was filming this yes i want to bring up like the cg could have been better yes yeah well if they waited two more Nor Ephron didn't have the best computer. Didn't we say at the beginning of You've Got Mail, it looked like escape from New York? There was a similar sort of weird CG-Cityscape thing going on, kind of to mimic the ending of this. Okay, I don't remember that at all, but maybe they were just, like, we could make this better if we, in six years.

Let's meet up again and try to make the CityScape CGI thing work. Yeah, instead it was just kind of jarring. Yeah. I think we both laughed at the beginning of You've Got Mail. Yeah, I try to force all memories of that movie out of my head. Like, it sucks. Although I do miss the big box bookstore, which is the villain in that movie. Now, those can't even exist anymore.

So it's like, well, maybe it was better when those were driving all the small bookstores out of business. At least we had a giant bookstore. I was actually surprised you rated this higher than me on Letterbox. Well, I'm a big softie. You know me. But also, it is shot very well. Yes, it looks amazing. I mean, I love nostalgia to a certain extent.

And this, like I said, in my Letterbox review, if you want to read it, this is like a big, cozy early 90s blanket. I'm the same age as the kid in the movie. And I'm playing with Legos, too, on the floor. So it just feels like, oh, yeah, this does capture the vibe of the early 90s. It is super cozy. There's, like, lots of big sweaters, amazing coats. I love the houseboat. Is it a houseboat?

It's a houseboat. By the way, we were on a min 10 of the Sleepless in Seattle segments. One more thing. Okay. You've got males also very cozy. I see. That's one good thing about it. I guess so.

Yeah. It's like more of, like, frosted tips late 90s cozy, though. I prefer the early 90s cozy. No one's on the internet yet. I think you need to re-valuate you've got male cinematography. Okay. Seinfeld is just getting good. And you've got male, Seinfeld's off the air.

What are we talking about? Friends? That sucks. Well, those are the three movies I want to talk about. Although I did buy Mystery Amount in 4K. That's true. Spoilers, we're recording this out of order. I'm on an upcoming episode

where we've already recorded with Henry and for some reason we talk about mystery men. So stay tuned for some quick thoughts on that. You know what we did. Last Friday, we tungle up together and watch all the Mystery Men TV extras, or Blu-ray extras, which are probably from a DVD. Yes, we heard a lot from Kinka Usher, because that's the only guy they could get. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't think anyone wants to speak on the record about Mystery Men.

I will say, though, so I have a soft spot for Mystery Men. Does Mystery Men totally suck? Yes. Is Mystery Men also kind of awesome? Yes. Okay. It's a mess, and I agree with both people who hate it and love it. it. And I have so many mixed feelings about it, which is why I gave it 2.5 stars and a like on Letterbox. What am I at 1.5? Yeah, I think you gave it 1.5. Okay. Well, we talk about it on that

episode, so you can judge for yourself. Time will decide if Mystery Men is a success. But I guess it came out on 4K. Yeah. They like rescanned the film and everything. And it looks great on 4K. So those are movies, Nina. What did I forget about our exciting adventures together in Vancouver? Actually, one more quick thing about movies. And it's not about sleepless in Seattle So don't worry Can we talk about how we can't escape George Clooney Yes, let's talk about it

Well, I don't have access to your notes So you apparently have a whole spiel about what's going on here Well, we're following along with Blank Check's miniseries About the Coen brothers So we saw O Brother Where Out Thou Both were the first time Yeah, not impressed by George Clooney in that Yes, good movie, but we both agree

George Clooney was like the weakest actor And he's still pretty good in it But everyone else, it's like a case of everyone else blowing him out of the water, him not really being on their level. Yeah, exactly. And then we saw Intolerable Cruelty, which is pretty bad. And I think he's bad in that, too. He's bad in it, and Catherine Zeta Jones is a robot.

And they're usually good actors. Yeah, I think so. She won the damn Oscar for Chicago. Yeah. And then we saw Fantastic Mr. Fox, where he plays Mr. Fox. And I guess, spoiler, I think that role should have gone to someone else, but he's okay. Again, not bad, but I feel like he's out of place in a lot of these movies,

but he's necessary to sell the movie to moviegoers in this time period. Yes, and now we're kind of sick of him because, again, we don't hate George Clooney. We just think he's weak in all those movies we saw. Yeah. Like, I've liked him in other things, like Solaris and Ocean's Eleven. But last night, it was my turn to pick a movie, and I joked that it won't be a Clooney film. I chose The Limey by Stephen Soderberg, because we both really like Soderberg stuff. And in there is a scene where two characters are watching an episode of Access Hollywood, where they're talking about George Clooney, and he comes on screen.

And then they just have the camera pointed at the TV as George Clooney Like 97 era George Clooney I should have expected this because he does collaborate with Soderberg a lot The Limey was 1999 they had just done out of sight together Yeah And hey I like Solaris I like Clooney and Solaris and Ocean's 11 So this is not an anti-Cloony podcast No no

Although he could be our billion dollar patron If he plays his cards right By that I mean if he signs up He is stinking rich Yeah We are going to have to see out of sight at some point We're going to drink some Casamigos together Oh, that sounds good

I've not seen that here Although I don't think We're getting A lot of American liquor anymore No, I know I've seen it here before Somewhere They used to sell it in Trader Joe's When I would go there

When I looked at Berkeley So it is not unaffordable It is more expensive than other tequila It's tequila, right? Yeah Oh, if it's expensive in the States It's got to be like astronomical here

It's fine, it's fine We'll forego the trip to Japan And we'll buy a Casamigos bottle So we'll see out of sight I guess oceans 12 and 13 And the good German And hey, on our $10 level

at patreon.com Talking Simpsons Sleepless in Seattle nine hours on that. It's coming soon. Nina Solo podcast. That's kind of like a live action cartoon, right?

Yeah, I mean, it starts Woody, right? From Toy Story? Oh, that's true. There's a bit of a connection there. I don't think anyone else

in that cast has done a cartoon voice. Meg Ryan? Meg Ryan? Oh yeah, she was Anastasia. I love Anastasia. Bob does not like it. Terrible. I mean, it's okay.

Not great. She's not great. I disagree. Who's the male lead in that? John Cusack. John Cusack. Okay. Okay, got it.

And there's also Kelsey Grammer. Yeah. We're just talking about in Hakezeria. Yes. We were talking about Anne Kuzak. Oh, yeah, the third Kuzak. The lost Kuzak and how, I don't know when she came up. Why did she come up?

I think we saw something with John Kuzak and then something with Joan Kuzak. Oh, we saw Gross Point Blank. They're both in that. Yeah. And we were looking up the Kuzak's. And then I'm playing Medellar Sala Delta and thinking, okay, what do these voice actors do? I like them. I looked up Major Zero.

His voice actor, I think his name is Jim Paddock or Jim Piddick. He is married to Anne Kruillard. Cusack. This is a fact for no one, but I just astounded like, oh, wow, it's major zero. And Cusack is also an actor? I think so, yeah. Okay. Not as prevalent as Joan and John, but still around. Maybe not on Twitter like John Cusack is. And that is it for Nina. And yes, Henry does have a little segment here. And did you guys know? Henry went to L.A. No, not the same trip he's on right now, but a trip earlier in the month. And I remember him telling me this as if it were September 12th, 2025. So now we have gone back in time to September 12th, 2025. See, initially I was going to record this talk to the audience just with Nina, but Henry begged me. He begged me to talk about what he did last month on this podcast.

He couldn't wait until October. So Henry, this is a segment I want to call the Adventures of Hollywood Henry Gilbert, and I do have a theme song to start us off here. It is very long and I refuse to apologize. So here is the Hollywood Henry Gilbert. theme song written by me. And yes, that theme was 37 seconds long. Randy Newman loves L.A.

I heard Henry Gilbert loves L.A. He was just there. I'm giving him a run for his money, yes. That was amazing. Thank you. This was indulgent about it. I was like, well, I'm not on this podcast because I'm on another vacation. So I was like, I want to talk about that vacation, October.

I don't want to talk about the other vacation. I'm losing track of all these vacations. These podcasters aren't working hard enough. I went to Los Angeles for Labor Day weekend, and I was like, man, I really want to talk about this now. Because it was like, it was so fun, but it also happened to be like a podcaster weekend where I didn't record any podcasts. Like, I intentionally went to not record podcasts. Yes, I encouraged Henry to not work while on a trip. I hope when you're in Japan right now, you don't have a laptop.

I will not be bringing my laptop with me. I did not work, but I did net. work. Even more important. Yeah. The main reason I went was for the Evangelion Wind Symphony, which was just great. It was the first official Evangelian performance in America, or I guess the second, because it was two nights earlier. They'd done it in Texas and then came here. By here I mean Los Angeles. Henry, you do live in Seattle. You know that, right? Yes, yes. That's right. Now, to explain to our listeners, they might not know what Evangelion is. It was, and I guess still is, a very popular

anime, super influential from the 90s. And actually, it's celebrating its 30th anniversary in the month of October. That's right. Yeah. I'll be leaving Japan the day it first debuted, or the October 4th is the anniversary, and that's when I'm flying home from Japan. And I, we, you know, in our plans, we weren't planning to go to Tokyo, but there is a special. store in Tokyo at the animates in IK. Bukuro, they're having like a Kauru Nagisa dating a special store.

So I don't know. Maybe I'll head up. So how does that work? Do you get to meet him? Do you get to crush him in your hand? Well, there'll be standies, but more importantly, exclusive merchandise. And I'm sure I won't have that much merchandise bought by that point in Japan. You have to count your cowroos currently. What does your cowroo supply?

Oh, boy. I'm looking over there. I can definitely think of five right now off the top of my head. So, Maybe that's enough. Oh, wait, nope, there's one over there. They're six. Their heads are all pointed at you. Well, the important thing is they usually need to be coupled with Shinji.

Most of them are coupled with Shinji. It's important. But yes, actually, I learned that this was such a funny thing at the intro. The company, the rep who was promoting it in the U.S., at the start of the show, he's like, I want to welcome everybody to Neon Genesis Evangelion. And he's like, and that's how you're supposed to say it, everybody. And he had to stop himself a couple times from saying it the way an American would say it. I did have a nice chuckle.

He caught himself a couple times saying, Avangelian, like, you had to stop. It's not even neon. It's neon. I guess if you're pronouncing it the Japanese way, and it's a lone word, I take it. But I guess in Japanese, this is getting really dirty. It's Shinseki, Sekai. What is it? I think it's Shinseki, yeah.

It's like, yeah, I mean, neon genesis is, it's like, that's their official English localization of it from the beginning. Well, it's always, from the beginning and the opening, it's like, you'll see the Japanese words, but neon genesis is on top of it and saying, I'm going to say neon normally, but I'm just saying it how they said it. I see, I see. My guess is, yeah, you know, when I looked into it, my guess is that as a loan word, the Japanese pronunciation of nests. Neon, that we would say, is Neon. And I think that's how the Greeks would say it, which is where the word is taken from, I think. Yeah, I guess it does make sense because in the show Nadia, which is a Japanese show, they have Captain Nemo, who we know is Captain Nemo, but in Japanese they call them Nemo. Exactly. Yeah, it's a good point. That is a good point.

But yes, the Evangelion Wind Symphony was really great because Yoko Takashi was there. and I was like, oh, she'll probably sing two songs. No, she sang 10 songs the whole night. She sang Fly Me to the Moon. She sang multiple things that were like choral bits that were from the movie, the Rebuild movies, like that I

did not even remember. And it was amazing. You couldn't film anything and they were very clear on that of like the same promoter said, guys, this is a Japanese style concert. You don't polite your phone, period. I mean it. So I didn't think she was going to do Cruel Angels thesis but then bam

second encore you know it was the last song they held us hostage at the start he's like guys behave yourself because she's going to come out and she's not going to sing that song yet but it's going to happen so just wait who is this weird handler that is constantly lecturing

the audience he was the promoter of the company I think he owned the company and he was I think he was being very hands on because he was implying like well if this goes well we might to do some more Like, this seemed like it was a test case to prove to the Japanese companies that he could do like a 20 city tour. Listen up, you little freaks!

Yeah. He did hold us hostage with Cruel Angels thesis. She first did the song Souls Refrain or Tamashi Noor Fudan from the Death and Rebirth compilation movie. And if I had one complaint, it's that they didn't do any songs from End of Evangelion. I mean, I didn't expect her to sing songs she didn't sing, like in that movie from them. movie but not even orchestral there were tons of orchestral songs but none from end of evava yeah i guess there's a lot of evangelian there's a lot of music and they do have to be choosy at some point it seems and another complaint is they rarely used footage from the tv show like even

when it's like oh this is like race theme and this is from episode three but it was an image of it how it was reanimated for the first rebuild movie instead which it bugged me a slightly so they actually had visual aids yeah my husband guessed that That might have been why they were so, like, don't film anything. It wasn't even about the performance. It was about, like, these videos are proprietary, and we own them, never film them. That's probably it. They're just visualizers.

They were empty visualizers. Yeah, I mean, sometimes you'll go to concerts, nerdy concerts, and they're not there. And I always appreciate them. I saw a recent concert last year for Final Fantasy. There's a bunch of Final Fantasy music. And because there was no images, you just had to watch the performers. And I was like, wow, it's just like an olden times. Yeah, this was more likely, I forget, did we go to a time?

together. Did you go to the one of the Zelda symphony concerts that was in San Francisco? I was at the grand opening in L.A. That was one of the cooler trips I got to take in the games industry. And then somebody couldn't go in San Francisco. And then I got to go to that. But you were not at either one. Unless you were secretly in the audience, it was before I knew. It was before I knew you, though. Well, I remember going to one of them. And that had really good visuals for it at that one, for the Zelda one, as I remember, like, footage from the games. That one actually needed somebody lecture of the audience, because I had, at least for the grand opening and I understand the excitement. I had a really irritating audience and I'm thinking

everybody, I know how the Legend of Alda theme goes. There's people on stage playing it. You don't need to hum it. You don't need to cheer for things. In the mid-song. Sorry, I can't get over it. It was 14 years ago. Also, that promoter did tell us like, no, have fun. Make noise. We want them to know how much

you love this. And I'll also say the Dolby Theater. This had been my experience when I went to the Universal studios as well when they had a one-piece thing in Hollywood. These places his underestimate anime fans so much. Like, their merch line was terribly run. It was terribly run.

My husband barely was able to get a T-shirt, and he had to miss a song to get in line for it, even though he got there early and did everything they said. So you only walked out of there with one shirt? Only one T-shirt. And he bought the last T-shirt that they had. It was crazy. That is crazy.

I guess they didn't realize how ravenous fans are, even with this limited concert series. The guy was like, oh, you guys really liked it, huh? And at it, our pal's previous podcast guest, Toby Jones, Ian Jones, Chordian, Madeline Carapel. And we all had a lot of fun together. It was a good time. We also were told at the end of it, when they got to Cruel Angels thesis, she, like, wanted us to sing along. Like, she kept pausing like, come on, sing along. And I don't even, I learned it phonetically a long time ago.

And even I, and now that I know some of the words in it, I still was like, hmm, do I have the guts to sing this out? loud. And I feel like only a quarter of the audience was really singing along. It is pretty advanced Japanese compared to what we're learning currently on our different paths. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh, Bible do. That means Bible. I know that. And also, the last fun thing about it I really liked was that after they did Cruel Angels thesis, and that could be the end, they instead were like, well, no, it's not the end until you hear this. And then they played the 30-second song that's over the next time music like da-da-da-da-da. But there wouldn't be you next time because they were going back to Japan.

How cruel. I've heard of cruel angels. These angels were very cruel to us that day. But it was great. I really hope they come back. I had a great time at it. And also while I was there, it was like one of these only in Hollywood-type deals. I kept running into podcasters all the time.

Two of them I did not even plan on. I did hang out with Drew and Glenn from the latest episode ever. We met in Japan Town. I was staying, sorry, in little Tokyo, not Japan Town. and that's in San Francisco. We hung around there on a hot day in Little Tokyo and went to the Square Annex pop-up shop. Yeah, what do they have there

compared to, like, what you would find in a normal Square Innix shop in, like, Japan? Where you are? Yes, where I know. They pretty much did bring in all of the stuff that they sell at their stores in Japan, except, like, no, you can buy them here, except they had a couple exclusive, like, posters, magnets,

and I'm playing Final Fantasy 10 for the first time right now, and I bought a Yuna shirt. which I thought was pretty neat. We went to Disneyland. Oh, I'm shocked. Now, I will say, Henry, some light roasting here. You are now only three Disney trips a year

compared to the six or five you were last year. So they're reducing in volume. By next year, it'll only be two. These podcasters overpaid too many vacation days. If they can keep now, we went there. It was low on my list, but my husband was like, well, come on. You want to meet the Fantastic Four, don't you?

I was like, okay, pull my arm, why don't you? So I'll admit I had a very dorky moment of, we got our picture with the thing. I love the thing. I like getting the picture. That wasn't too dorky. But then we were like, you know what? Well, let's get a line for Reed as well. And then when we were waiting for him, then all of a sudden the thing comes back for

another photo and he is like, oh, back for more, huh? That's what the guy in the suit said to me as the thing. And I was like, I was only, I'm not trying to get 80 pictures with you. I'm not crazy. So, wait, you were just by The Thing or by Reed Richards? The Thing, the Thing. Oh, my God. Yes, it was.

You know what? That's kind of his deal, right? Yeah, maybe he was in character. And when I was there, I ran into Mike Carlson and Lindsay K-Ty. They were there on their own. I got to ride Pirates of the Caribbean with an official podcaster about rides. Wow. And I'm sure none of this was research for a future episode.

It seemed like it was just a family trip with a I also got to meet their lovely little daughter. It is something, it makes me wish I was an uncle because I did get to experience the pirates ride through an excited little girl who is just like, wow, wow, and just pointing at everything. If I had been four and rode that ride that's in the dark with things yelling at me, I wouldn't have been half as brave as she was. I am taking my unclehood for granted and I moved away as soon as I got a nephew, unrelated, but I moved 2,000 miles away. It makes me wish I could uncle it up. Force your brother. Say, you need to meet. Get on it.

Or dopped. But don't shop. No, though. That's... Oh, and then I went to the TCL Theater, the Chinese theater, the Grauman's. It has many names, but I'd never been there before. And I got to see Jaws there for its 50th anniversary, but Jaws was playing everywhere. You saw Jaws, right?

Oh, no, I just watched Jaws at home when Blank was doing it for their podcast series but I've seen Jaws playing around Vancouver and I feel like my husband really roasted me for telling me that I look like Hooper of the Richard Dreyfiz's character in it I never thought that until I grew this beard

and have wild hair and glasses I would say that's less roasting and more flattering because Richard Dreyfus is a very young man in that movie no you're right I would like to he was a sex symbol of the movie and what in the book in the book he cucks Brody he cucks Brody in the book This is what I've heard about the Benchley book There's a lot going on there.

And then when we left the theater, we're, you know, doing the dorky thing of like, okay, let's get a picture of all of the handprints. And then all of a sudden somebody says, Henry Gilbert? And I turn and it's Scott Girdner of Podcast the Ride is also there. And we just happened to run into him. You did not tag every member of Podcast the Ride so so you lost the game that they were playing with you. I know. Jason Sheridan's hiding in a flower pot nearby. As Scott joked that I would need to like go to his home.

to meet him that weekend, I think. Let's go there now. I'd say, well, if you're inviting me, Scott, and then I later found out that if I had merely gone three more blocks, 10 minutes south of L.A. or of Little Tokyo,

I would have also met Will Sloan, who was in town, I was totally kicking myself. Our pal Will Sloan, he did a, he's got a new book out about Ed Wood, and he did a conversation with Dana Gould at a bookstore or not that far from where I was.

Yes, actually, I saw that was happening, but I forgot that you were there. But yes, Edwood, Made in Hollywood, USA, that's the new Will Sloan book. And he's been doing little events with Dana Gould, at least the one. Yeah, I was so kidding. I told him later, I was like, oh, my God,

I didn't realize we were this close to each other. And by the time he had done that, he had already flown to Chicago for his next book tour spot. So he wasn't even there anymore. But Will, if I had known, I would have canceled. My lunch with Drew and Glenn and said, Guys, got to trade up to Dana Gould here. Got to get out of here.

I'm showing you the podcaster ranking ladder right now. It all checks out. The last thing I wanted to say I did in Los Angeles was I went and saw Rebecca Sugar's exhibit at Gallery Nucleus for their new album, Lonely Magic that just came out, which really is awesome. I couldn't see the concert at it because it sold out too quickly. And then Rebecca was not at the Evangelion concert. I would assume because she has been incredibly busy a lot these days. It seems like it, with the launch for a new album, and then there's music videos and the gallery and all that stuff.

The new music video is really great, too, for Ice Water is the one. It's really cool. I really like it because she mentioned that, like, Ian inspired her to, it's these three angels that represent, like, the creative process. And he said, like, well, then you need to name them, like, if they're based on, like, 90s OVAs, then they need to have pretentious names. So she's like, okay, then it's like passion, epiphany, and I think it's like sorrow or something like that. That makes sense.

That checks out. Yeah, if you haven't seen the Ice Water one, it's a really great. And they're all just on YouTube. You can, you know, music, you can buy an LP out there and is a really cool LP. They have a gallery nucleus, but I just want to say the album's really cool. I liked it a lot. Well, while Henry was tooling around L.A., I went to a pickle festival in Vancouver, but you'll hear me talk about that with Nina later, unless we already talked about it, in which case, wasn't that fun?

So thank you, Bob, for a... I'm delging me on my L.A. story here. Of course. And, hey, let's go out once again with the Hollywood Henry Gilbert theme song. I love L.A. Welcome to the Hotel, California. I'd be safe and safe and more. If I was in L.A.

If I was in L.A. Hooray for Hollywood. It's really got me. Hooray. Hooray for Hollywood. Hollywood. Yeah. And that's what Henry has been up to in recent weeks.

And Nina has not heard this segment. Although I think you've been briefed on Henry's activities in Los Angeles. Yeah, he loves L.A. Just like Randy Newman, although that's part of the Hollywood Henry Gover theme song. So you've all heard it twice by now. It will come up again on the podcast. I suggested the song California Dreamin. I guess Nina is co-author of the Hollywood Henry Gilbert theme song.

Henry is apparently constantly California Dreaming. Now, here's the thing. Henry, I apologize. I know you're listening to this. Henry is leaving from L.A. to go to Japan, which is very common. It's very cheap to flydive L.A. I didn't know he was staying there for two nights. So technically this is a Hollywood Henry vacation. And I'm not going to burden the audience with a third playing of the Hollywood Henry Gilbert theme song.

So he flew out of L.A.X. Yeah. Flew from Seattle. We are doxing Henry. We're going to give you the flight number right now. To LAX. Yeah. Because it's cheaper to fly out of LAX.

Yeah. But he's staying in Los Angeles for two nights first. Yes. So he's not saving any money. It doesn't sound like, but I think Henry can explain to us perhaps on Mike how this is a bargain. But that will be on a future podcast. Again, Henry, stop listening to this. You're on vacation.

I think it's very funny that the Hollywood Henry segment is already out of date. Yes. I didn't know. I thought this would just be like a one-night stopover and maybe he told me it wasn't. So that could be on me. Henry, I need you to like pre-record something that I can drop in here to let people know about the 48-hour L.A. trip, or perhaps it's 36 hours, to be fair. I'm just glad he's cut down the number of Disneyland trips to, I don't know, three times a year from five or six. He's already to receive the roasting on the segments.

Oh, good. And by the way, Henry did go on that trip before Disney became more evil. So Disney has become more evil in recent weeks. Although, who knows what could happen again? What day is this? Oh, September 9th. Sorry, Disney could become more or less evil in the time it takes for this to be edited and then put online. Yeah, their approval ratings are plummeting.

Yeah, I see people leaving Disney Plus, decapitating goofy workers, ripping the heads off. I heard someone saying that Disney Plus people are more worried about this backlash spilling out into the theme parks. They don't want people to stop going to the theme parks because that's where a lot of the money is. That's the sweetest plum for Disney at times. So we'll see what happens with that. Of course, like politics, things are moving so quickly. I don't want to make any definitive statements. And we've recorded things well in advance.

So those podcasts will be politically out of date. But, yeah, I can't say what is going on right now because things are crazy. If Henry is flying out of LAX, is he flying back to LAX after Japan? Don't know. And staying for another two nights? Don't know. These are questions that we can. The listeners demand answers from Henry Gilbert.

At this point, I wouldn't shock me. Will there be a second LA vacation on this trip? We want to know. The thing is, Henry loves L. A. And that's fine. At what point does it stop being a vacation and start being just going to a second home? At what point does he become a resident? We're going to find out. I think once you stay there long enough in one year, you have to pay taxes in L.A. He should just live there. I think so. That's on the listeners as well. You need to give us more money so Henry can buy a second home and live in Los Angeles for part of the year. I think that would make him very happy. Enough with the Henry roasting. Again, Henry, please, you're on vacation. You can't be listening to this anymore.

We're going to move on to questions and comments for Talking Simpsons. And the first episode we'll be talking about. about is sweet Seymour Skinner's badass song. And I'll start things off by reading Jonathan's comment. And Jonathan says, I'm sure it's been talking about to death, but that tone that Chalmers has when he says, thank the Lord is so funny to me because he's obviously disgusted at the thought. And as someone whose parents worked in public education and having worked in a little bit myself, Chalmers is 100% right. Thanking the Lord publicly should get you fire. Thank you, Jonathan. Yes, like I said on the podcast, I was in Catholic school. So the idea of an administrator being offended by hearing a prayer over the PA was crazy to me. And I understand that was not happening in

public schools. But we started the day with the morning prayer over the public address system at our school. Wow. Yeah. We said the damn our father right next to the Pledge of Allegiance. It was very confusing. So you did both. We did both. Yeah. Well, as a Canadian, I think your daily flag worshipping schools is a little strange. It's messed up. And it's only, I mean, again, we don't know if prayer is coming back to school at this point. Who knows what could happen in the next five days? I don't believe in God, but I would sooner welcome thanking the Lord than pledging allegiance to the flag in the country, because at least God looks over the entire world. It's more global thinking.

That's true. Less selfish. He's multitasking. Joe Hodgson says, This one has become one of my favorites, but at the time it aired, I was disappointed. I think Fox promoted it as an episode where Bart pulls an epic prank that gets Skinner fired when the reality is he just brings his dog to school, which indirectly gets him fired.

The following episode, The Boy Who Knew Too Much, felt like a return to form, and the ironic thing now is, When I go from this episode to that one, the tonal whiplash makes me not dislike the boy who knew too much, but it does take away from it. Yeah, Skinner is kind of back to his normal stern self in The Boy Who New Too Much.

I mean, he doesn't stray too far from where he is in the Madass song episode, but you could tell that they were trying to redefine the character. He just kind of revert immediately afterwards. But then I think as season six and seven and eight roll on, we see more of the Oakley and Weinstein Skinner that I love. Yeah, you know, I never really thought about how those two episodes are back-to-back, which is weird. Like, the boy who knew too much is so much wackier in tone.

It's, like, such a different dynamic between Bart and Skinner. Like, this episode is basically Bart and Skinner sharing lemonade with giant pupils. Yes, exactly. But, hey, it's the best version of that. I love it. So moving on, we have The Way We Weren't, and Purple Comet says, eating the same thing for dinner every night sounded a little crazy to me at first, but I can see the appeal.

Having to pick out and cook dinner every night is a pain. You can cook salmon and broccoli in like 20 minutes too My question to Bob is Are you going to the grocery store to get fresh salmon every day? I bought a package of frozen salmon And it was damn near inedible Well, thank you, Purple Comment. And of course, they were referring to me talking on that episode

About how during the weekdays, weekdays only, I normally have the same meal every night. It's normally very healthy. It's normally salmon and steamed broccoli Because it's just something I've fallen into that rut And Nina can speak to this. We have fun on the weekends. Oh, yeah.

are for the fun meals. Weekends are for drinking. There are some rules, but in a way there are no rules compared to the weekdays. And I do enjoy my joyless salmon and broccoli, but I season things. I use some great seasoning salt. It's not just like the plainest dish you've ever seen in your life. Also, I've bought frozen salmon

many times. They've always tasted great. Yeah, I had a question. I followed up with purple comment on this on the Patreon. I'm wondering, like, I'm not sure what you're doing, but sometimes I'll buy fresh salmon if I forgot to thaw salmon. I don't want to go through the process of putting it in the sink and thawing it out. But frozen salmon often tastes as good as fresh salmon depending on where you're getting

from it. And it's never gone bad for me. Maybe if you leave it for too long after it's thawed, it'll get funky, but it's important to eat it within like 48 hours of it thawing, I guess, if it's in the fridge. Well, I will point out we're in the land of salmon. Maybe our salmon quality is better. And our neighborhood that we live in, it's like a food oasis, like whatever the opposite of food desert is.

We have so many grocery stores and even a fresh seafood shop. So we could very easily get fresh salmon every day if we wanted. Yeah, yeah. And you know what? I found this out after I started my salmon and broccoli rut, but it turns out David Lynch did the same thing just to sympathize his life. Oh, nice. Exact same thing. Because he's like, I don't want to think about the things I'm eating. Well, I also like eating the same thing every day on the weekdays because it's just easier that way. It's a woman who loves her zoodles. I've been going back to zoodles lately. Can you explain what zoodles are? Zucchini noodles. Okay. I thought it was a kind of dog hybrid. No, that's another thing. Yeah, you just take like a spiralizer. and feed of zucchini through it

and you make these noodles that are made of zucchini. I don't normally like zucchini that much, but when they're in zoodle form, it's just like the texture that you get enjoyment out of. And then you can just add sauce on top of it. In this case or in my case, I've been making a lot of spaghetti zoodles. So once you smother that thing

in tomato sauce and add some parmesan, it's like... It doesn't matter what those noodles are made of. Yeah, exactly. I mean, so Vancouver, land of salmon, land of breweries, and that's where you can find my wife and myself on the weekends. And then, back to the broccoli mines. We have run into some of your fans

at some bars and breweries. I'm surprised I don't have it too often. That is true. I didn't take a swing at anyone yet. I've not gotten that drunk. People might be too intimidated to approach us. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

I guess we still have fun on the weekends, but I really can't drink as much as I used to because, I mean, I guess my liver has less resilience, but, like, after a few beers, I'm, like, kind of sleepy. Mm-hmm. So I have to pace myself a lot better now that I'm in my 40s. We usually stick to, like, a glass of beer per brewery now, and, like, a small pour, so, like, 12 ounces.

Well, I'm drinking a mango white claw. It's a special in a recording, so we're having some beverages. I'm having the Yacht Rock Summer Ale from R&B Brewing. I wanted to get rid of this from our fridge because we are getting to fall now. We've got to get the pumpkin ails. Yes, I guess we can name check our favorite brand. If you're in Vancouver or Vancouver area, this might cross the border, who knows. But the best pumpkin ale I've had in my life is called Porch Ornament, and it's from R&B Brewing.

So check that out. It's probably, it's got to be, well, I know it's on the untapped app if you want to look it up there. Yeah, try to find it. It's great. Like some pumpkin ails, too sweet. Not pumpkin-y enough? This is like a dark pumpkin ale and it's great. We always hoard like half a dozen of these. Yeah, and don't finish them until like April.

Yeah. We have another comment here for the way we weren't, Nina. Tyler Rampley says, You have to cut them a little slack on that first John Kaye couch gag. They did ask him for it in 1999, but he didn't deliver it until 2011. And yes, John Kay also created a couch gag for the 2015 Tri House of Horror. So that's probably the only thing he was working on between. the 2011 couch gag and the 2015 couch gag.

If you know, John Kay, he's famous for a lot of things, a particular interest, but he's mostly famous for how long it takes him to make anything. Yeah, even The Simpsons did a joke about it. Yeah, yeah, back in, which one was that? That was, oh, the front, it was the front. Yes. Yeah. Clip not done yet.

I thought it was weird that he did a couch gag because for the longest time, like on his blog, which I used to read just out of like pure entertainment purposes. Although he does make, like, good observations on animation sometimes. He's a broken clock. Yeah. He would, like, mock The Simpsons. It's just radio with pictures.

Yeah. So, when he did the couch gag, I thought he hated the Simpsons. Yeah, when he did the couch gag, I thought, I assume we were all on the same page about this guy and how he's a talentless hack who can't finish anything. And then when he actually finishes something, you're like, what are these shapes I'm looking at? This looks like one of those before, like, so I've seen these images in, like, medical books or whatever, where it's like, here's a person painting a picture. Here's a person painting a picture on LSD.

It looks like the LSD picture. Or like something out of Crum. Yeah. One of Crum's brothers. Yes, yes. Somebody who's living in like an SRO who has like a cup of coffee every day and no food. John Kay is a kind of guy who thinks more animation means better, which is not the case. Every character has to be moving in every frame.

Yeah, not a fan of that. I guess we'll get to that couch gag in about eight years. Oh, it's so hideous. Yeah. I don't know what they were thinking. Again, he had not really done anything for a very long time. This is not 90s, John Kay. This is not even, like, Ripping Friends, John Kay.

We didn't know how good we had it with Ripping Friends, which I guess is a very Canadian show, if you're familiar with Ripping Friends. Yeah, I saw some of that. It's not great. But now, compared to what John Kay has done for the past 25 years, I wish we had Ripping Friends again. Hmm. Yeah.

Ripping Friends, what a cartoon? I mean, it would be interesting, is all I'll say. Would it be? Yeah, it'll be interesting. So up next, we have the boy who knew too much. And Kat Hagerberg says, I honestly think, what kind of school did your parents' authority figures threaten to send you to is a great icebreaker question.

Mine was just Catholic school, but I knew my parents were too poor to afford it, but too rich to qualify for any scholarships, so I never took it seriously. Well, Kat, I was already in Catholic school, but this was the era of Catholic school in which nuns did not hit you with rulers. In fact, we didn't even have a nun. We barely had a priest. So there was like a big priest and nun shortage. I'm sure it's only gotten worse.

So Catholic school was just like a more expensive public school for me, at least, with occasional church. So there was never any threat, although I will say, my lovely mother, when the kids were driving her nuts, would threaten to send us to Belmont Pines. Belmont Pines was a mental hospital, and apparently it's still open. Like, she would say, if your kids don't settle down,

I'm taking you to Belmont Pines. So that was the threat to be institutionalized. Threatening to send your kids to some kind of other school, though, is that like a common thing? I mean, typically it was military school. Like, we just watched Bill and Ted not too long ago. The Bill and Ted's, that was a common threat for Head, I guess, to go to military school.

And it was just a very easy threat to throw out in, like, kids' media for a very long time. Okay. But now we respect the troops who go to military school. So you had no nun exposure? We had a nun in my high school. We never saw her. Technically, she was the principal, but the joke was she was always drunk.

I don't know if that was true, but she was, like, basically just this hidden figurehead in the principal, sorry, the vice principal. His name was not Clooney. It was Cooney. Okay. Yeah. I love little, like, stupid. schoolyard rumors like that about the teachers.

So if you watch an unsploitation film, you won't feel weird about it. No, I can watch Betta-da-da. That is on the Criterion channel right now, I think. Right, okay.

Is that, uh, for whoven? Yes. Okay, got it. Maybe he had a Catholic upbringing. Dennis Kaye said, granted, I haven't seen it in probably 25 years,

but I remember enjoying the last action hero, and I was the target audience at 10 years old. But I mainly enjoyed all the over-the-top movie tropes like the recast's sexy daughter and the one cartoon police officer and the payoff gag of Arnold's character being riddled with bullets in the real world, only to get back into his

movie for the wounds to become just a scrape. And we watched this together. I was not living here yet, so it's probably been like four or five years, but it was our first time seeing it at all. I think, I mean, I watched it on video and I wasn't a kid offended as a kid, but I guess my issue with the movie, I might have explained this on the podcast, but there aren't very many jokes and it over explains every joke it makes and I wish the movie was just full of jokes about the premise but it's too afraid to be a comedy so a lot of it is just straight action and weirdly enough the action in the movie is good like there are good car chases there are good shootouts but they're not funny in fact I will say the least funny part of that new naked gun movie is the intro

because it is trying to play it straight like an action movie with some jokes and I feel like it fails to be a fun spoof I mean there are jokes in that but that's the least interesting part of that movie unfortunately that was a big like early trailer is the initial action scene i enjoyed it a little bit more than you i think i agree with all the complaints you had about it i thought it was merely okay it was just way too long right it's like two hours and ten minutes and it does star what we hate movies it would call a disgusting shit boy yes get him out of there not my terminology but i approve of it and we needed better rules for the magic ticket but i'm sure yeah magic ticket my ass we're going to move on to the what a cartoon about slayers

which Nina was on and Alex actually says as a former anime industry guy I love Icatches. It made one of my old jobs much easier. I'll explain as quickly as I can. And by the way, this is Bob jumping in. An iCatch is essentially a bit of animation that intros and outro is a commercial break in anime. So moving back to Alex's comment. Add insertion points are an important aspect of all streaming media metadata. As the name suggests, these are time codes

that ads would be inserted into the video while being watched. Generally, you need three of these. One after the opening, one in the middle, one near the end. There can't be sound effects or music that go across frames, otherwise it can cause a rejection with third-party vendors, and it's just sloppy. Since my job was to enter these manually, usually with only VLC or QuickTime as my primary tool,

any shows in the I catch were much, much easier to work on and to find that middle insertion point. For shows that didn't have it, I would have to search around listening intently for audio to sharply drop out so I can find an insertion point, and as you can imagine, it was a big old pain in the ass. Older shows like Slayers, DBC, One Piece, had eyecatches and made working on them much easier than newer shows that don't have them,

which seemingly is most shows from the past 10-plus years. I don't know why, but it seems like they fell out of fashion. Yes, thank you, Alex, actually. I do watch new anime, and I have noticed that... Although the older shows, like, One Piece will have the eye catch as part of, like, the legacy. Like, of course, you're going to get a new One Piece eye catch. But with newer shows, occasionally, or more often than not, you'll see the logo, like, fade in the corner for the anime,

and then it'll fade the black, and that's all you get. Just a little sign that the act is ending, or... we're going to commercial. Yeah, but there are still modern animas that use them, right? I mean, I'm sure there are, but I can't think of any offhand. Demon Slayer. Demon Slayer? I watched that with you like five years ago, so I don't remember.

I kind of remember as thinking, or saying out loud, like, oh, this has eye catches. You haven't seen that in a long time. Yeah, so I guess some companies still do them, but I guess that's just more work. I guess so. And, you know, the eye catch is still, that's time a commercial could be occupying, so I think they look at it in that way as well. I found out that also Umamusame has eye catches. Right.

So that's an anime and a game, right? Yeah, about girls that represent horses. Race horses. Race horses. A real racehorse. Yes. Right? Yeah.

I think the horses are all mostly dead. And you can date them. Oh, you can date them too? In the game, I think. Okay. It is like a gotcha wifu game as far as I know. The person editing this, I think they have tweeted a lot about or posted about it this game. That's mostly how I know about it and what it is.

Well, I've heard that the anime has an amazing animation, so I'm kind of interested. Okay. Well, I guess we're going to become Uma, Musume? Yes. Does that mean, like, horse daughter? Well, Musume literally does mean daughter, but it can also just mean girl. Okay. Kind of like how the word for sister can be used to refer to a slightly older girl.

So unrelated to the movie horse girl, which I think you've seen. Oh, yeah. I have seen that. Not great? It's okay. Okay. Let's move on to the next comment, Nina. Count says, it's almost upsetting how much of an impact Slayers had on my younger dwee-be self.

I went by Gabrieve online, since it was like Gabrielle but cooler. A borrowed OVA VHS was a catalyst for my first two-week-long relationship. And I named the family Basset Hound Lena. Her pedigree papers even said, Lena, the Dark Sorcerous Inverse. Very nice, very geeky. Nina Inverse. Have you named anything after Slayer's character? Well, I said it in the episode, but my first live journal,

name was based on Rezo. Okay. And my first domain name was also based on Rezo. I don't think I said this on the podcast. Maybe I did, but when I'm playing a game, there's like a creative character. You know, you're not playing as a defined character. I knew we play as a woman named Ena Lindverse. Like your Final Fantasy 14 character.

Yeah. And the only time someone was upset by that was when I was playing Monster Hunter for Ultimate on my 3DS. I remember this. I was visiting home and playing it. I was playing online with someone and we're having a great time, not voice chat or whatever but we were both like you know at the same skill level and I was like oh I want to play with this guy again and he friended me and then he saw that I was a man playing as a female character

and he texted me via the game like oh I can't believe I'm playing with a fairy and I'm thinking fairies are you 65 years old yeah what the hell yeah I was more like tickled than offended you know just like I have not maybe it's because the game would censor out the real F slur that's why he ran in fairy but I was just like that deeply offended him that a man would play as a female character. I would laugh at him too. I didn't mention this on the recording, but there is a Lena in Dota in Dota, too. Her name is Lena the Slayer, and in case you think it's a coincidence, she was originally named Lena Inverse before they dropped her surname. And if you think it's still a coincidence, her abilities are called Dragon Slave and Laguna Blade. Well, that's a lawsuit

right there. Those are two of Lena's famous spells. I just think it's funny how a remnant of 90s anime fandom remains in a currently very popular game. But then they changed it to something less copyright infringy? Lean to the Slayer. Yeah, leading to the Slayer. Okay, so we're going to move on from Slayers to what a cartoon movie. The episode is all about Treasure Planet. And Dan Vincent says, please forgive my computer pedantry, but the computer alert sound is not

from Windows. It's Sosumi, pronounced Sosumi, from the classic Mac OS. The name originates from the legal battles between the Beatles Apple Core and Apple Computer in the 80s and 90s, which restricted Apple Computer's ability to ship music-related features. The short of it is that in 1990, Apple's legal department thought the name of Chime for System 7's new alert sound

was too musical and would get them in trouble with Apple core. Jim Reeks, the Apple developer who created the sound, was frustrated with back and forth and renamed it. So Sumi. He managed to get the name past Apple Legal by claiming the word was Japanese. That's on Henry. This is Henry's Callout Corner. He thought the sound, the error sound

that the Martin Short character made was the Windows error sound and not the Apple error sound. So maybe he got misinformation from someplace, but this is Dan correcting us. on that one. I like that he simply had to claim the word was Japanese, and no one looked into it.

Like, ah, that sounds Japanese enough. Go for it. Yeah, so Suimi means nothing. Yeah. It's always fun where you can turn an English phrase into a fake Japanese-sounding word, though. Yeah, I didn't know about the history with Apple Computer and Apple Core, the Beatles Music Corporation. What's the next comment, Nina?

Eric Schumann. Eric Schumann says, John Resnick and Goo Goo Goo Dolls occupy a significant place in the story of the post-grunge evolution of alternative rock as both a genre and a radio format. In the mid to late 90s, as top 40 stations moved toward team pop, rock radio latched onto bands that, on the surface, followed in its footsteps of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden, but were much more accessible to a wide audience. Goo Goo Dolls got their start in the 80s playing more punk-leaning music

before restyling themselves as heart-on-sleeve rockers after their 1995 song, Name, became a surprise hit. Fans like Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, Semi-Sonic, and even Creed, would have lots of success treading similar ground, so the Treasure Planet team had options in case Resnick said no. In 2002, the Goo Goo Dolls were in the midst of promoting their seventh album, Gutterflower, a record I've never heard of. And I think I said this on the episode, or maybe just to Nina, but if you turn on the radio in 1997 or 99,

you would either hear Gugu Dolls, what is their big song for the... Iris. Iris, thank you. So I couldn't think of that. name because the lyric i don't think is in the song no okay iris or santana smooth either one of those and i'm sick of both of them i actually like the song iris like legitimately i don't want the world to see me now see it's fun to do it karaoke yeah i like to do a good billy corgan oh yeah we both like

doing that together the verses are more crooney but then the chorus is loud and when he goes you bleed just to know you're alive everyone can join in yeah that's where you can really belt it Now, I miss doing corgone at karaoke because there were two corgans. There's like, today's the greatest. And then there's, I'm a zero. And then you can't talk for the rest of the night. Well, when we go to Japan this year, let's finally do karaoke there. God is empty just like me. I can't wait to say it.

You know, I looked up TV appearance with the Goo Goo Goo Dolls from back in 1995. And John Resnick back then looked like a Kyle Mooney character. Like seriously, he looks and sounds like Kyle Mooney. Yeah. You can picture it, right? I can picture it. I think our guests are, sorry, our listeners to look up Kyle Mooney and just, like, compare the two. But I can see it happening.

Yeah, whenever Kyle Mooney plays like a cool guy. Yes, yeah. So thank you for the John Resnick update, Eric Schumann. We're going to move on to Talking Futrama, Law and Order, or sorry, what was the name of the episode? Law and Oracle. I think that was a case of autocorrect. I'm not going to blame myself on that one. But David and Waffle says, a road trip cop slash mixtapes.

I've had to drive from Victoria, BC, to Montreal, several times, and it takes a few days. One exhausted night, I was just looking for a hotel and got pulled over by a cop in full cop gear with the reflective shades, even though it was midnight. He demanded to search my bag, which was just full of CDs, and says, I guess you're free to go. That is some gay music there. In a small Ontario town, I thought I'd be arrested just for having a bag of gay music. I'm surprised he didn't say, son, do you know how gay your music was going back there? Bob is no stranger to music as deemed gay. Your tail lights kind of gay.

Yes. You might have gotten pulled over and had your music. I was pulled over by high school students in the hallways for my very gay music. What's the hardest sounding music you like? I don't know. Andrew W.K. Okay. I guess. I'm nodding here.

Yeah. I think it's valid. I don't like it. I mean, listeners are not surprised by this. I guess not. Henry and I have similar musical tastes. Soft boys. No, no, no.

Soft boys. Hard on the inside. You're both Weezer fans, so predictable. Well, we're both Weezer fans until the Y2K comes along, and then we fall off. When I was in high school, I was listening to a lot of industrial techno music. I was listening to the Pixies. I don't think I've told this story on a podcast, maybe I have. I think I've told it to Nina, but all my friends are getting into much harder music.

And it became the teenage boy thing, where teenage boys will do this a lot. One friend would have me come over, and he would drum to rage against the machine. I'd just sit there, and I'm like, God, I wish we could play video games. And one friend would get sewn to Metallica that, I'd come over. He just wanted, well, I'd play Metallica songs for me. And I thought, okay, I want to engage with these friends on a musical level. And so I was getting into cake. And I thought, okay, we can all listen to cake together. And I put in cake. And I can't even get one song in. The friend ejects the CD and says, this is stoner music. And he rejected it on that terms. This friend later goes on to become the biggest stoner I've ever known in my life. But at the time, he was like, I'm not listening to stoner music. Did he feel like scandalized by it or something? I think he's just like, no, I'm into metal. I don't like stoner music. But isn't metal music also stoner music? I guess he didn't learn that yet.

Yeah, people can do drugs and listen to both kinds of music. Yes. But, yeah, I just remember that, and then trying to play a song from the Pixies and the car of a friend, and he shut it off, again, halfway through. Like, I cannot listen to this. Well, I don't like the pixies. Well, this is the basser, the hardest song they do. Anyway. Well, I could keep roasting you for your musical choices, but I won't.

Yeah, gay music, but I've got a wife. There we go. I was a husband. I'm side-eyeing I've got a female husband It's like a Martin Prince flub right there Yes Healthy Queen of the podcast room

Nina please continue Ryan O'Reilly says Following up on Speed Buggy There's an entire episode of the excellent Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated Where the gang goes to a convention For Mystery Solvers And run into many of the HB Scooby Ripoffs

Of the time Including Speed Buggy Captain Caveman Jabberjaw and the funky phantom. If you ever wanted to do about a cartoon on this particular Scooby show, this would be the perfect fit, as it's gloriously meta and hilarious takedown of Hannah Barbera's 70s golden period.

I had, this is me speaking now, I had absolutely zero interest in Hannah Barbera shows as a kid. I just, I mean, we will talk about it on the pop name Scooby-Doo, but this is just the thing that was on the TV, and there were no other choices. This was before the animation renaissance for TV. So there was just about six hours of old Hanover. Barbaric cartoons on and I thought, well, I like cartoons and I guess there is no other option.

So I've seen all of these. And I'm glad when 1990 rolled around, I could say goodbye to all of these forever. Yeah, like, I tried watching the Flintstones because it was always on. And I kept thinking, like, what am I missing here? Well, the Flintstones is a cut above all of these because at some point it was made for adults. But everything else is just like they knew they were making bad cartoons. Some writers were making the best of it, but they were just making an assembly line product. And I guess now people are celebrating these shows via things like Jellystone, which is recontextualizing these characters. But I liked, the Harvey Birdman take on them was my favorite because it was just like, what if these were all like broken, horrible creatures and

we make fun of their very existence. That reminds me that I got that PS2 game. Oh, right, the Ace Attorney Like. Yeah, I played through it before it's great. What can we play that on? I don't know. Do we have a PS2? I have a PS2 in my console cabinet right down there. Oh, okay. Let's plug it in. It's worth playing. It's unfortunately the Harvey Birdman attorney at law game, it's great. the animation is great the voice acting is great it is as long as one ace attorney case it's like a three to five hour game at that actually i can probably just play it on an emulator on my computer i say limited run games let's go jeremy parrish i have a disc reader you're my contact let's get this game re-released that could be fun i want to see it again so yes thank you ryan o'reilly and that is it for this episode of talk to the audience or sleepless in seattle's what could be a good sleepless in seattle podcast name speaking out about sleepless in seattle sure yeah Henry is listless in L.A.? When this goes live, he'll be jumping up and down in Japan.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Henry, I know you're listening. And, again, stop. You're on vacation. He is jubilant in Japan. He's jubilant in Japan, yes. And currently, I'm eating 1,000 pounds of broccoli to get ready for Japan while I'll be eating nothing about ramen, curry, sushi, soba noodles, all the convenience store snacks. Probably got to cut out drinking for like a month before going on a trip because we're going to be...

Can't join you there. I'm sorry. I'm going to be boozing it up also. Also boozing it up, yeah. A booze is incredible. It's so cheap. Yeah, look out liver. I'll be jaundiced in Japan, I think.

That's my goal. But yeah, thank you, Nina, for joining me on a hot Friday night in this stuffy podcast room. Oh, it's not that bad. Anything else you want to say to the listeners? No. No? But Nina, they want to hear your lovely voice. They can hear it in an upcoming episode, like I mentioned before.

Oh, yeah. And Nina, you should pluck some stuff. because you're working on things for a fan gamer, you're working on things for Rift Tracks, you're online, you're on letterboxed. You're not getting paid for this appearance? I'm not even buying Nina dinner for this. What?

Exactly. That was not part of the agreement. We're hashing it out now. Well, I'm on blue sky as spacecoyote.com. I'm also on letterbox as Space Coyoto. As I mentioned earlier, that's Space Coyote with an L instead of an E. Also on Instagram at space.coyote.art.

art you can see all the stuff we're working on my day job is working for fangamer creating video game merchandise and if you go to fangamer dot com sort by collection sort by artist click on my name you can see everything i've been working on well thank you nina for joining me and thanks to everybody for listening we'll see you again next week for another episode of talking simpsons and next month for our latest talk to the audience and we will see you then have a good october Thank you.