Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Bart On The Road With Matthew Jay

Episode Date: June 6, 2018

SPRING BREAK! We get rowdy on this week's podcast with a road trip thanks to a fake ID. Matthew Jay of Cartoons 101 is here to chat with us on the Simpsons ride to Knoxville all while Lisa bonds with Homer and Marge gets lonely. So whether you're on vacation or just learning about owls, enjoy this week's episode of Talking Simpsons!! This podcast is brought to you by VRV, the streaming network full of cartoons, anime and more. sign up for a free 30-day trial at VRV.co/WAC and help support Talking Simpsons! Support this podcast at Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons!

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I'm your host, Dorkus Malorkus Bob Mackie, and this is a chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who else is here with me today? Henry Gilbert and I just had a sinful shopping spree in Wii World. And who else? I'm Matthew J., and my dad says Talking Simpsons is like Everything's Coming Up Simpsons if it were run by Ned Flanders. That's possibly true, and today's episode is Bart on the Road. Spring break! Yeah! Well, when are we going to get rowdy? Today's episode aired on March 31st, 1996. And as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history.

Oh my God! Oh boy, Bobby! Georgia beats Tennessee to win the NCAA Women's Basketball Tournament. Celine Dion's Because You Loved Me is top of the charts. And All Dogs Go to Heaven 2 flops at the box office. Back into hell. It recast everybody. It's got no one back. It was not done by John Bluth.

They couldn't get Dom DeLuise? Oh, he did come back. He's the one. It actually starts with Itchy dead. Like, Itchy is in heaven, and he's like, oh, I guess I died finally. But no Burt Reynolds. No, Charlie Sheen recasts as Burt Reynolds. The Burt Reynolds of the 90s plays Burt Reynolds.

It took over. Itchy's a jerk. I've never seen either of those movies. I haven't either. Really? I've never seen. I've missed most of the Don Bluth. I kind of have too.

We were like, it was just, I guess it was because we were at Disney Home. But when I was like paying attention to the new movies that were coming out, it was in Don Bluth was in like his downslide. So I saw like his good movies from early on. But when like Pebble and the Penguin was coming out, I was like, I uninterested. Like Hercules is in theaters right now. Let's go see that. Well, I'm surprised Bob hadn't seen itcules is in theaters right now. Let's go see that. Well,

I'm surprised Bob hadn't seen it because for our generation, pre-Disney Renaissance, those Don Bluth movies were the good movies. Like, before The Little Mermaid came out, Spielberg was making

the good Disney movies with all the ex-Disney folks that Don Bluth was in charge of. Then he started his own studio and he fucked up that reputation real hard in like a year. Yeah. Yeah.

He had three movies that all flopped. Like Pebble and the Penguin, Troll in Central Park, and- Anastasia. No, I mean Spielberg. Spielberg- Oh, I thought you were talking about Don Bluth. Spielberg made- We're Back?

Amblemation. Yeah. Yes, which had We're Back, it had the Fievel sequel, and- Oh. Fievel Goes West. Yeah, and another one that just, they all did poorly, and it was within like a couple years, and they just closed right away. Yeah.

They were like, no, that was a mistake. It was just like Warner Brothers when they were like, no, we made two movies that just died. I interviewed Don Bluth not too long ago with Gary Goldman, his animation partner. It was a fun interview. Oh, cool. And he's still hanging in there in his 80s, I think. He's 80 years old. Wow.

And I don't know if that Dragon's Lair cartoon or movie you wanted to make ever got funded. That was what the interview was for. The Kickstarter fail-by made an Indiegogo, which has reached like 200% funding or something. But I don't think it'll come out. I just feel bad at the idea of forcing an 80-year-old man to animate now. It's like in that Kickstarter video, he's like, I direct regional plays now. I don't draw things. And then the big promise of the Kickstarter, I think, included, like,

we're going to get sexier with these drawings of the girls from Dragon's Lair. It's like, I guess that's who you're going for. It's smart audience. Those videos are real. The videos of him and Gary Goldman sitting there dressed like knights of Templar. It's real.

I looked into those again because I'm making a video about Raph Bakshi that hopefully is out by the time you hear this. The state of 2D animation of the guys that want to bring it back is a real shame. I could be wrong about this, but I believe that Kickstarter for the Dragon's Lair movie was to fund a pilot

reel or like a pitch reel so they could shop it around. And I'm like, you have two pitch reels. It's called Dragon's Lair 1 and Dragon's Lair 2. Those are your pitch reels for the movie. That was a long time ago. But it's still, it's like this is what you're going to get in a movie of Dragon Slayer. It's not going to be any different. Sorry. Not the TV show, though. Don't

look at that. Or the NES game. In fact, he disavowed any relationship with that TV show during our interview. He was like, I didn't do anything with that. That was not me. I mean, the Dragon Slayer's game show that you can animate that well for like four minutes of animation and call it a video game, but that's

different from making a film, or even just a short film of Dragon's Lair, which I feel would be pretty boring. They're not interesting characters in Dragon's Lair, they're just archetypes animated well. I'd rather have a Space Ace movie. Definitely! And you could still get Don Bluth

boobies in that instead. And she's a redhead. Yeah. Better. Sorry, everyone.uth boobies in that instead. And she's a redhead. Yeah. Better. Sorry, everyone. Sorry for Blonde in the audience. I don't know why that happened with All Dogs Go to Heaven 2, meanwhile, Don Bluth. Not at all involved in.

Really surprised that went to the movie theater. Yeah. It was just a weird time where people, there was a gold rush at that point. That was after Disney had started making money again and people wanted to make 2D movies again. Same thing with the final sequel he had nothing to do with. was spielberg produced and that came out and tanked even though it's cooler yeah for some reason i like it it's a western but it's just like it's odd nobody asked for that yeah it's a jewish western though which we don't

have many as as we learned uh from dustin hoffman on the simpsons there were a few jewish cowboys and they spent freely and they were they had a good aim, I think, too. This episode, let's get into it. So it's a spring break episode, which The Simpsons had not done. In their search for episode ideas, Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein and the team were like, we've never done a spring break episode. Where could they go?

And I believe they were going to send The Simpsons to Fort Lauderdale originally, but they decided to take them to a more interesting place in terms of comedy writing. Yeah, it takes spring break to your road trip angle which i definitely like how much more like unique and down-to-earth this is compared to seasons 11 kill the alligator and run yep the uh famous kid rock joe c rip uh guest appearance the people who hate on principle of the pauper i'm like come on kill the alligator and run that's when the show fucking lost it well when we get president kid rock in about nine years

we'll say that's a great episode they have a fan boat chase and it's when burt reynolds was like all over television for me which was weird like they're like he was in it was a little bit before my name is earl but like i remember burt reynolds popping up on a lot of like hey old people watch tv and they didn't get him like come on if you, if you're going to have a gator chase. They went with Diedrich Bader, the more attainable. I forgot he was in that. Wow.

Yeah. Diedrich Bader is underrated. He's good, but he does shit. Like, he's a good actor. He's got to work. I know, but like, he didn't fucking meet the Spartans. It's like, how?

He was a great Jethro in the Beverly Hillbillies movie. That movie, that movie should be seen the way like the Addams Family movie is seen. It's like, watch it again. This movie's got some funny stuff in it. Yeah, it's not fair how people look down on that. Lily Tomlin,

that was perfect casting. They reunite the cast of 9 to 5. Wow. But about this, yeah, this was a fun one to go on spring break with. I forgot how many jokes are in this or how many plot lines I'd completely misremembered i like yeah it's part of the car that's all that happens in this one right i completely forgot about all the marge stuff too which is like the uh 30 second

b plot in this episode marge is lonely everyone's ignoring marge and uh i know she gets a little something in the end but that's basically i guess a little bit actually yeah that was the marge thing really got me in watching this like oh this is depressing for march and nothing really she doesn't get fixed i guess when the family gets back together at the end it's like that's why she's she is happy again yeah her story is like that she's blissfully unaware of the horrible shit that all the men in her family get up yeah exactly uh but also another thing i love about this episode that it is so 1996. Oh, yeah. So specifically dated, not in ways they couldn't help like pre-911 airlines, but also just that they say there's 1982.

And that was 14 years ago. They say that out loud, which I really like as well. And apparently children could rent cars in 1996. I feel like even in 1996, you had to put down a credit card to rent a car yeah i would have liked to see that scene and i feel like it wasn't an earlier version of them trying to rent a car and getting away with it they only have like one scene of a character shrugging their shoulders like well for plot purposes i have to accept this is yes it's proof enough for me yeah this episode begins with uh a wonderful principal skinner scene which i'd also forgot me too

uh spring break in hong kong custom-made suits at slave labor prices good lord they've got this all wrong yes this is principal seymour skinner how can i help you principal i'm afraid there's some problems with my tickets i asked for a center seat, not an aisle seat. I specifically requested not to have the kosher meal. And I booked the flight leaving Saturday morning, not Friday morning. Okay, I've gone ahead and made those changes. And with the one-day advance purchase price, it's just an extra $7,830. GM Chrysler, I can't afford that. But I can't close the school a day early just to suit my vacation or can i think seymour

think go to work with your parents day yes go to work with your parents day tomorrow you will learn by doing and apply your knowledge of fractions and gym to real world situations what if i were to disguise my vacation as a school holiday? Oh, delightfully devilish, Seymour. This is one episode before the steamed hams. But man, a center seat on an international flight. He's like a masochist. I mean, he's a former POW. That's true.

He wore that iron mask. But I have to tell you. And all the men who were captured. Oh, man. Let's not get into that. But I just was on an international flight and i figured out the ideal place to sit and in that most international flights have three rows of uh seats i find that the center row of seats and the aisle is ideal because you are just king of that king of that realm it's like i can get up whenever i want people probably won't climb over me because there's another way out and it's

usually you're with people who are together so So if you're flying alone, center row aisle seat, and it's good. Nice. I always go for the aisle seat. I've been flying a lot recently, both cross-country and also within this enormous state. And I always go for the aisle seat, and I recently – I was on a flight recently, and I just want to tell everyone, don't put your fucking seat back. Yes. That's the shittiest thing in the world, and they shouldn't even do that. That's an act of war.

And get nothing out of it, like, comfort-wise. It adds nothing to your flight experience to be tilted back, like, one inch. Yeah, I'm a tall man, and I don't even put the seat back, because I know it just, like, it doesn't do anything. It just inconveniences the person behind you. I have recently, I've discovered, so some, this is a weird tangent, some planes have more legroom than others, of course.

My knees touch the back of a lot of seats on planes i got long legs and i've realized that i can tell when someone's about to move their seat back as you move forward a little bit and i just took my knee right there and they just think it's broken i've done that several times recently nice that's awesome i'm more of a window seat guy because i can hold i can hold my uh bladder pretty well for a full flight even a an eight-hour cross-country one. Wow. I need two bathroom breaks just to not die of a blood clot, which my mom feared would happen. Matthew, have you gotten this?

Because both of our moms told us before a Japan flight, like, better stand up. You're going to get a blood clot in one of your legs, and then that goes to your heart, and your heart stops, and you're dead. I come from a poor family and we don't fly. I've only recently been flying a lot because I moved across the country. My mom doesn't fly. My mom hates it. I get no advice about flights. But she read stories I think at one time of like one person

ever who got a blood clot from sitting too long on a long flight. Richard Nixon. Miflobitis. Yeah, I think it's, I mean, I love my mom, but it is the mom thing like what's the worst thing that could possibly happen oh that's gonna happen to you and i need to warn you it is a very you know it's you're right a very mom explained so much about you that's uh it really does that airline skinner is flying with uh sky ameri westica is a parody of a budget airline a

real budget airline i forget the actual name of it, but it really puts Skinner's economic situation into the light of day. He's very poor. This is his one trip of the year, and he's got to fly on this rinky-dink airline to go to Hong Kong to get cheap suits. To get cheap suits. Yeah. Paying his mom back for all the food she's ever given him. That's right. Well, I also love the line of slave labor suits, like slave labor prices.

That's, well, now we all have that in America. We've got access to that now. I did want to go into Go to Work with Your Parents Day, which is a, I guess, parody or a mirroring of the Take Our Daughters to Work Day, which was a fairly recent thing in history at this point. It started in 1992. So it was started by a feminist organization called the Ms. Foundation for Women. And it was a way to show little girls like, hey, like you can do more than be a housewife or a mommy or whatever. Like go to your work with

your parents and see what jobs are like because it was still, this is still in relatively recent history where it was like, women in the workplace, I don't know about this. Yeah, unlike now, which now we just have people saying like, I just don't know. You have to test it out. Why are they wearing lipstick?

What does lipstick say? This is Jordan Peterson, by the way, not Yoda. But, of course, because men saw this and were like, hey, wait a minute. We're being excluded from something. I want a part of this. So it was changed to take our daughters and sons to work day in 2003 although boys were never excluded from it but we we needed a piece of that pie man i'm going to work with my mom i remember that change happened because as a kid i remember noticing because i never did it i never did it but i remember like

one year it being like hey wait i thought it was just girls i also don't care and it didn't like raise a stink about it i would have liked to not be in school a day and go with my parents to work but i feel like i would have just seen... I did visit my mom's workplace a few times, never my dad's. It was a running joke for my dad to never tell me what he did. I'd say, man, what do you do? And he would joke and say, I'd just make up a title and not say what it was. I now think it was just the usual office drudgery that makes all people hate themselves.

It could have been like in the Wonder Years when you would go to visit your dad at work and, you know, in the end, my dad was just a regular guy. And then the turtles would play in the background. Turn, turn, sir. In the end, my dad was the older guy in the office that everybody hates and eventually an HR violation will get him fired. But I think that's who my dad is. My dad is actually a monster.

My dad got me too. Oh, no, no. That think that's who my dad my dad is actually a monster my dad got me too no no that didn't happen to my dad he just was an asshole to people uh but it's also weird that skinner specifically doesn't want a kosher meal like yeah that's he's got some strange opinions about uh about women too about uh housewives too we find out later yeah a lot of strong opinions that come out of nowhere yeah i i also love the uh the spring break time frame of this episode that he yeah it makes it clear like he gets that tickets in the mail it starts on thursday but he's like go to work with your parents day is tomorrow so i have off friday starts on friday by the end of the episode, Bart is home by Friday of the next week.

Going back into this, I just remembered, yeah, Bart is in a car and they're going places. It's like this is very well plotted in terms of figuring out the mechanics of having all these things happen within this time frame. It's very well done. Skinner sees it that the school can't possibly function unless he's there. He needs to be there at all times, even though we've seen him not at work sometimes. Like in the last episode, I talked to him with you guys where where he's at the court case during the middle of the day. He goes to a lot of famous cartoon court cases too. I bet he made up another holiday for that.

And I did love that gag about how the things you learn in school are useless and would have no effect on real life. One of the most useful classes I ever took was the one, at least in my generation, they still made fun of men for taking, which was home ec. act which is like this taught me how to cook basic things and boil water and also how to write a check and return addresses these are the shit they don't tell you in useless classes that just are about passing a test yeah I mean they really should teach more life skills I was I was upset that like I never learned about like here's what interest is and here's how credit works and here's like all this stuff you need to know to function in society but it's like no no trigonometry learn that i wish i learned i wish i took like how to fill out a check class or how to balance

your checkbook class how to do your taxes oh my god how could they not have a do your taxes class like because they don't care because it's all built on things from a hundred years ago it's the school to prison system you're not doing taxes in jail yeah you're either gonna go to a prison of a workplace or the actual prison either way oh there's a recent episode of atlanta that takes place in a like middle school and it just gave me like vietnam flashbacks because they have those yellow brick walls and like this fluorescent lights with no windows and i would remember like i would get like weirdly like claustrophobic sometimes they'd be like i can't breathe right now because there's no new air coming into this room. I don't like that.

This takes me back. But it's better when you can learn at home like Bart. I can't help it if Mom's workplace contains our TV. I'm honored, Bart. And Lisa, you'll have a fine time at the plant with Dad. You've been interested in nuclear power for years. I've signed numerous petitions to shut down that plant. Well, there you go. Mom, you're blocking the TV. If you need something to do, you can fill out my form. Here. I've been interested in nuclear power for years. I've signed numerous petitions to shut down that plant.

Well, there you go. Mom, you're blocking the TV. If you need something to do, you can fill out my form. Here. Parents' occupation. Please note, homemaker is not allowed as it is not real work. That's why you don't get paid for it. Bart can take my place at the plant. But he so wanted to see women in the workplace.

Well, how about Aunt Patty and Aunt Selma at the plant. But he so wanted to see women in the workplace. How about Aunt Patty and Aunt Summer at the DMV? Of course, of course. I would never, ever have thought of that. Kind of like Marge's very, very sweet faith in Bart throughout this entire episode. She never loses her faith or questions anything he's doing and believes him. She should have learned something from Christmas.

She should have learned not to trust him. I just love that she's innocently honored by it. questions anything he's doing and believes him something from christmas yeah like she should learn not to trust him i just love that she's innocently honored by it yeah it's like i'm so honored like though it is still my dream day off to just sit in my around in my pjs and watching cartoons i never tried pouring the entire thing of milk into the cereal box like bart does it's a great it's a great payoff when it all falls out at the end for for emphasis on the the fate that you know awaits him yeah it's a good just like plop just a well timed plop of that and marge is cleaning that up yeah if my mom saw me do that in the living room that would be the topic of conversation yeah you can't pour milk into the cereal box even even if well if it was insulated with the plastic inside the cereal box, maybe the milk wouldn't go anywhere.

Yeah. Those bags leak, though. Yeah. But I'd want to eat it out of the bowl because that's how the commercials told me it's supposed to be eaten. With a full carafe of orange juice and like five toasts. Half a grapefruit. A steak. Everything in that complete breakfast.

A rack of lamb. And also, I love that she emphasizes that she would have never, ever thought of the Marty and Selma thing without Lisa saying it. That's great. And Marge is just condescending, almost like, there you go. I like how quickly that plan comes together, too. She immediately, I guess, throws him in that station wagon and drives him to the DMV. Yeah. Because this is all one day.

I mean, Marge wasn't wrong. Lisa has always been interested in nuclear power. That's why she protested it. Except when she is working for the labor union's rights and playing songs to make it feel better. It's more about the workers. Yeah. It's about labor solidarity for Lisa when she plays classical gas for them. These scenes like this always made me fear the dmv as a kid too like

there's two scenes in this that made me fear adulthood and it was thought of like i'll be trapped in a line at a dmv forever and that just fills me with anxiety and then the idea of changing a flight ticket and being charged an insane amount uh for having to change the day like those both fill me with like anxiety and dread these are definitely I think rooted in people who grew up in like LA and New York or living in LA like the writers because I didn't really get these DMV jokes until I had to go to the DMV in Southern California

where in my small town it's like you go to the DMV you're one of two people there and you're there for like 10 minutes at most when you go to the DMV in California it's a day like bring a book bring a lunch you're there all day and now I get online on a lot of them now. Now, I just get my fucking license renewed via mail because I'm not going to the

DMV. I had to take a day off of work to get my California license when I moved out here. A day off of work. Yeah, I had to do that too. And I had to take a fucking test. I had a written test. I still haven't switched over. Oh my god. I've been here almost a year. I put it off for a very long time too. That's illegal. We can't harbor Matthew. Is it illegal? It is if you're driving. Well uh i put it off for a very long time that's illegal we can't

harbor matthew is it illegal it is if you're driving well okay i've been driving regularly as long as it's a legal license no you need to get it i mean this is not legal chat but you need to get it fixed within like a month or two i learned the hard way when i got pulled over i just kept feeling like this isn't gonna last i i won't be here long i still feel that way you don't feel like a california resident nah i still feel like i'm gonna be back in jersey any moment just make sure you say hella every day you'll you'll feel more at home the more you say hella i actually did have this recently where i had to change a flight to an extra day and they said like all right that's uh three hundred dollars and then a two hundred dollar fee i'm like and that was one of those gotcha moments where they

can finally say like well remember when you could have paid 20 bucks to protect this flight and you didn't well well well fuck you i do that sometimes but not always i i'm pretty good at buying plane tickets like i i've last time i flew across the country it was like 200 bucks it was an extra 100 because i had a cat with me but you know whatever you that's how much it always costs. And I just flew back and forth to LA for like $100 and rented a car for like $200. So I spent a week in LA for like $300 because I also stayed on Jose's couch. What's up, Jose? We'll be there soon. Maybe not at Jose's house, though.

No. Let's check with this Jose guy. Then we get a follow-up on the big wheel at the Cracker Factory. Well, at least I'm not stuck at the Cracker Factory like Milhouse. Wow! Did I ever wonder how crackers get salted? Have I?

Wow! Crackers! I never knew cracker production could be so exciting. But where do they make those crackers with that peanut butter already inside? Put this on and come with me, son. That's the one bit of dignity and joy that Kirk has ever afforded is this amazing cracker job that he loses next year. He's a big wheel there. Yeah.

He'll lose that very soon. It's a family company. I'm surprised they can still afford all that stuff when they're losing to amalgamated biscuit. Allied biscuit. Allied biscuit. And table time. Table time. That's such a Bill Oakley, Josh Weinstein joke.

I don't know why, but it is. I love jokes about fake cracker companies. Oh, I had a thing about Bill. I recently talked to Bill Oakley. He's very nice. He is now a famous Instagram food reviewer. I like how he pivoted to that. I mean, he's working on Disenchantment but he's also a now like a food

tuber yeah and i also i also took one of his recommendations when i was in la i went to hiho burger in uh santa monica it's wonderful i recommend that to everyone and get the pickles good side uh but i like that he the character he's playing these in these uh reviews is basically skinner i feel like he's he's very much playing a skinner-esque character i could see that because he's very much like yes i enjoyed the burger and i bit into the toothpick my favorite was uh that made me want to try it was that portland airport pancake oh man the portland airport is like has an amazing food court yeah it's fantastic he still lives out there he's in portland i just love

while he's in la to work on disenchantment he is now also filming while he's missing his family he's filming these food reviews another thing i had forgotten in this episode was that just not only do they have the bat pulls but they play batman 66 oh yeah meanwhile lisa is with homer and it's much more of the reality of what you imagine. Like, oh, my parents' job is boring, and they do nothing. This is all just a lie. There is a return of the Homer-defined donut with the purple stuff inside, though. Oh, yeah, that's true.

Purple stuff. Purple is a fruit. Actually, yeah, we get a taste of Lisa and Martin with their dads. Oh, this is a map of nuclear sites around the country. As a safety inspector, I am responsible for changing most of these lifeboats. Why are there so many burnt out ones? Because they won't hire an assistant. Martin, here's ten dollars to invest in the futures market.

Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Martin, you're up $1 million. Yes! And now you've lost all but $600. You got greedy, Martin. There's new meaning in 2018 to a very feminine boy going, Soy! Soy! Soy! That's the first thing I thought of.

I don't believe that, by the way, but I've been called Soy. People have just replied with the word Soy to me. Soy Billy is the new one. Oh, I saw Soylo just last night. Oh, God. I've seen that film called that. I'll tell you what. I like almond milk. I like seitan.

I like tempeh. I'm not a big soy fan, so fuck off. I've got to go between almond and soy milk, though. That's the most. I also eat red meat like a man. Oh, man. I'm a man. Not going to turn my frogs gay.

You just can't eat dairy because of your tummy. Yes, I do. My tum-tum. My tum-tum. No, I always loved it when Oakley and Weinstein remember that Homer is a nuclear safety technician. It's something that, like, other, I don't think Dave Merkin really gave a shit. The don't forget you're here forever plaque is missing, though. That is true.

In his office. One thing I do like about this we rarely hear martin's dad but i always love when the the father the mother has the same voice as the kids like you got grady's son martin yeah that is the same voice he had in camp crusty when he's like promised you wouldn't make a scene that's right wow yeah we never we never hear martin's mom have anything to say though she does make an appearance and she's kind of odd looking i god i love martin in this like this is just he's so great yeah and all of, I love Martin in this. Like, this is just, he's so great. Yeah.

In all of it. And in later scenes, they will talk about how he has a different nerd energy than Milhouse. That's true. And that they mix together well. They do a really good job of, like, rounding out that team. This is basically the squad from the Shelbyville episode minus Database and Todd. You're right. Yeah.

And they work so well together. And one thing I learned from the commentary is, and I forgot about this. The Shelbyville episode minus Database and Todd. You're right. Yeah. And they work so well together. And one thing I learned from the commentary is, and I forgot about this. I've heard this commentary before, but sometimes they don't get Roosie Taylor to play Martin. Pamela Hayden can do Martin sometimes. And now I want to go back and listen to all the Martins and find out which one is Pamela Hayden. But for this one, it's four little boys, and we want to make sure their voices are all distinct. And Milhouse, and Nancy's already playing two of them. So they wanted to make sure they got Roosie to play Martin in this one.

So I had no idea. Pamela Hayden who plays millhouse sometimes does a Martin. Yeah. Well, I mean, Roosie is, I would doubt she's super expensive, but she is Minnie mouse.

So, you know, you gotta maybe put a little extra effort into getting her perhaps. Simpsons probably even for the lower tier voices probably pays like, I don't know about Disney prices, but they probably pay real well after all the threats to leave the show i think they pay well the main cast makes what like a couple million an episode now or something i think they walked that back to keep the show on the air i think they took pay cuts or something like that friends ended it was a huge deal that they were all making a million an episode and now

like they make more than that on the simpsons and much more than that on the... I think the Big Bang Theory guys get paid more than The Simpsons actors. The Simpsons did have to get it down to hundreds of thousands an episode. That's why Harry Schur was about to quit. But it was... And that's...

The shitty thing for Harry Schur was that I think the choice he was left with was you either take a pay cut or everybody on the show loses their job. Like, what are you going to do? Yeah, because they're not going to replace just one person yeah so they're gonna replace that cast they're gonna go whole hog with how much is young sheldon pulling down these days probably too much for a child that was a nightmare on my flight like i'll turn on the little tv oh yeah what's on it's like

15 little icons of young sheldon like no no tv off it's the first thing you see on a virgin flight now yeah the same thing that's why i read an entire book on my flight. They got Riverdale, though. Okay. Throw in some of that Riverdale. I watch a regular show on all three episodes of OK Go they had on there. This is why when I fly to Japan, I go on JAV, Japan Airlines. J-A-L. JAV is something else, Henry.

Sorry. I mean, I don't get that. JAL, don't Google that, folks. I'm deleting my search history right now. JAL is my favorite airline to go to Tokyo for one reason. They bankrolled Porco Rosso to be on their flights, and it will always be on their flights in the video thing. They were one of the multiple airlines that paid for that movie,

which is why in the film Porco Ros rosso you never see a plane crash on screen wow plane does crash but it is in the in a forested area so you don't see it interesting i didn't know that that was a rule from the airlines are like in general a rule for airline flights is they do not want to show movies where a plane crashes in them for obvious reasons. I found this out. This is a real divergence here. It's just like the World Trade Center. You never see the planes go in. Have you ever noticed that?

There's no footage of it. All the movies Homer got for Marge and Fear of Flying will not be on your plane. I found out this rule when I was on a cruise, but they had the airline versions of movies, and they had Almost Famous in there. And if you remember, there's a scene in it that is pivotal to the plot the airline versions of movies and they had Almost Famous in there. And if you remember, there's a scene in it that is pivotal to the plot

where they think a plane is going to crash and they are all like telling their truths to one another and like saying what the hell they've been lying and finally being honest the whole time. That is not in the movie at all in the airline version. Yeah, I was watching The Nice Guys

on one of my planes recently and it was like heavily edited and I was like, I was watching The Nice Guys on one of my planes recently, and it was heavily edited, and I was like, I'm wearing headphones and watching this myself. Why are you taking the swear words out? Meanwhile, unedited Game of Thrones just plays on every screen. I did see a lot of that. The Simpsons will be right back.

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so arbitrary things don't it's like there's no meaning tied to it buy buy sell buy buy sell but it determines how much money we make for some reason yeah and then like donald trump tweets a number and i'm supposed to know what that number is it's like the dow is at 7 000 uh okay uh sure good good if he's tweeting about yeah yeah when i watch things about the stock market and like movies or tv shows it's the same as when you see like a very tense scene of people playing poker and you're like you just wrote that that guy would get that hand like that's not exciting like i mean again in solo they play sabacc uh which is a canon star wars thing and it's like oh this is this is even less sensical than a poker scene because you made all this shit up. They'll throw a hand down.

Everyone goes, ooh. And I'm like, oh, what? They just make up a new rule. At the very least, in James Bond, when they play Baccarat, you're like, I guess this has to be a rule, right? Yeah. Except in Casino Royale, where they update it to Texasas hold them to remind you that movie came out in 2006 and i also think martin's rise and fall really presages the dot-com bubble oh then there's the scene of homer and lisa having fun together which there's an apollo 13 reference at which had only come out nine months before this episode so this is a really recent reference

for this era of simpson i do really enjoy them getting along we see that in lisa the iconoclast as well it's nice to see them not at odds with each other yeah lisa and homer just normally fun it's something i really it's something i really hate about kill the alligator run which beyond it having kid rock and an ending that makes no sense it truly doesn't an alligator just shows up alive when he was dead 10 minutes earlier for no reason the real thing i hate about it is is that it recasts homer is like a frat party dude it's like that's not homer homer is not that guy he does have a transformation when he finds out how old he is or what is his lifespan or something like that homer's not a dude who like has to see your boobs yeah it's true i saw so many boobs like homer doesn't give a shit about i hate that

there's a cute little running joke where homer calls lisa like a guy or a man oh yeah throughout this season it's like i always stick up for the little guy and you're the littlest guy i know and this one it's like you're a two this is a two-man operation i don't know it's just like a weird form of bond he's like i don't see you as a little girl you're my buddy or something like that yeah when i was growing up and getting into the simpsons and like catching up on the episodes that aired when i was either too young or like not alive i uh i remember because this is kind of a little bit after this is the era where i was like watching new ones so watching it every week and i didn't really see them as like a family unit in that era of the simpsons like it like i i feel like the show would forget that homer is their father and they they do see them they do see him as their father

and respect him as their father they just know he's kind of an idiot yeah but like i don't like when lisa and bard don't see homer as a father figure i feel like they always should and i like that oakley and weinstein had that in mind more than some of the other showrunners yeah their their relationships are more uh important yeah although that bill oakley told tells us and everyone else like we want to make about the family family until we run out of ideas but it's about Mo let's say Mo then we go back to the DMV Cletus is literally slacked

on as this photo is taken like there's no animation to that noise at all just he makes a when they take the photo real banjo kazooie noise just when the flash happens, he has to go, I can't move. Yeah, it's hard to make that noise without moving your jaw. It's kind of off-model, but I do like that drawing of Cletus.

And that now he can finally drive a car instead of sitting in the dirt at the drive-in. Sit on the ground at the drive-in. He's a little more of his, like, he's got that feminine, like, I cut myself on the screen door again. I like the more effeminate it's yeah it's funnier

for some reason they mention in the commentary that like he gets less like a yokel later on like they're really leaning into it there and later on

he's just kind of like a guy he has like three brain cells in this woman a more discriminating taste we'll hear that

in the next episode but then we get some nice front facing Bart as he gets his own fake ID. 25 years old? You're not 25 years old. This ID is completely fake. Yes, you're right, Milhouse. It is a fake,

which makes it a fake ID. A fake ID? Cool! It's our ticket to the best spring break of our lives. One adult and two children, please. I can think of at least two things wrong with that title. Twenty-five? Whoa! Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. S, but you know, I gotta check everybody.

What, are you kidding? I take it as a compliment. Three beers, please. Hey, join the party! That fake ID exchange between Bart and Milhouse really reminds me of a Futurama-style joke. Just the rapid-fire back-and-forth character will just do a complete 180 for no reason. I was like, did Ken Keeler or David S. Cohen write that? It really feels like a Futurama joke. just the rapid fire back and forth now character will just do a complete 180 for no reason i was like the ken killer or david s cohen right that it really feels like a futurama joke it is great that millhouse refutes it like that's not true you're not that's like that is correct it's not

true like cool so that's the naked lunch thing yeah it's also basically a joke that they've done before which is uh barton fink. Barton Fink. I would think they would enjoy Barton Fink more than Naked Lunch, though. Yeah. Barton Fink's more of a movie than Naked Lunch. Yeah. You guys see Naked Lunch? No.

It's a weird movie. It's about William Burroughs. Wait, who's it about? Yeah, it's about Burroughs. Burroughs. Not William Burroughs, though. No, William is Burroughs. That's his name.

Oh, okay. The beat poet slash wife murderer. Yeah, it's not really an adaptation. It was a goof, guys. Yeah, it was just a fun game. How will you tell? It's a weird, if you like Cronenberg's business, you'd like it. Well, yeah, that's why you're not going to be titillated by a Cronenberg film ever,

let alone his weird takeoff of a Burroughs novel, which from what I read, it also just combines a lot of other books he did as well into it so it's not even a telling of that specifically and then when i looked at a parental advisory thing for that it had some of the weirdest it actually made me want to watch the film more it's just like a giant bug appears and he has a huge penis and then his penis fucks this guy i was like seen it yeah so that's what bart and millhouse and nelson got to enjoy when they saw naked lunch which that's another thing that just dates this of just like bart the bart of now can see porn whenever he feels like true and no problem and naked lunch i mean

it's a funny joke but naked lunch came out like five years earlier so uh it wasn't a like a relevant movie in 96 but it was a good jokeaked Lunch is also a key work in American history just for its being attacked by obscenity laws at the time. It was one of the most banned books in America at the time and would lead to important free speech laws, which back when free speech defended, you know, different voices, not Nazis. Things have changed. Yeah yeah things have changed a bit i also wonder what that scene with them starting with a fake id in front of the quickie mart if there was going to be a scene where they do they try to use it at the quickie mart and up who is there should have been a scene where up who was like i know your children yeah they're

kind of in front of the quickie mart for no reason. What would you need to fake any, I guess, porn? Cigarettes. Yeah, cigarettes. Porn, cigarettes, beer. They could do all those things. And I also, it is a great scared straight moment of Barney like, join the party. They've never looked more pathetic. Yeah. It's also great that it's framed those three guys and then back to the kids as three.

And though anytime you have Barney and Nelson share a scene, you're just like, are you his dad you've read too many buzzfeed articles well hey okay let me tell you my theory oh no it has been established that barney is a big time sperm donor in the city of springfield yeah that's right and nelson's mom we have seen nelson's dad before but who are we to say that nelson's mom did not get artificially intimidated or just sleep with Barney? In the 10 years of the show I missed, they probably made a joke about that or reference it in some way. I heard that Homer's in a coma and he's imagining all these things.

He actually died at the end of Lisa and the Old Man and the Sea. Jesus. Oh, by the way, I saw for some reason on the plane that I was watching The Simpsons and I saw they had a second Pin Pals episode. It's bad. Don't watch it. It doesn't really know what it's about and it's not good. It's not even the original Pin Pals. This last season has like eight of those. They keep just being like,

remember this episode? Remember this episode? If you're going to do a sequel, fucking do it. Watch the episode. Instead of the original Pin Pals, it was Homer, Moe, Lenny, and Carl. It's like, just watch the episode i feel yeah it's instead of the original pin pals it was homer mo lenny and carl it's like just watch the episode again they retconned the end of the camp crusty episode they never went to tj we screamed a lot about that previously i complained quite a lot although i did i think i'm the only person who feels this way but the uh the new updates of

young homer and marge like they're like where they lived in the un-gentrified downtown area which was very reminiscent of our downtown area and other cities like your Bosnians and Chicagos and New Yorks and it's very Brooklyn-y. I liked that episode. I thought that was fun and I thought it was warm and I enjoyed it. I haven't seen it because it implies that

they were born in 1980. Well, that's just kind of what a floating timeline. I hate it too but it's what the floating timeline does to you. I was more annoyed that they had Kr in 1980. Well, that's just kind of what a floating timeline. I hate it too, but it's what the floating timeline does too. I was more annoyed that they had Krusty take off his makeup when this ain't makeup.

That episode was awful. I watched that one. That's the next one. I was like, you know what? All right, Simpsons, you won me back a little bit. Let's keep going. I'll watch the rest of the season

and the next week, I was like, well, fuck this show. I did like when Marjorie came here though. That was a fun episode. I didn't see that one. I watched that one week I was like well fuck this show I did like when Marjorie came out that was a fun episode I didn't see that one I'll watch that one I wish

Dan Greeney that episode he pitched of like a making a murderer type show for to do a sequel to Who Shot Mr. Burns that sounded like

a great idea whoa that sounds cool James L. Brooks shot it down yeah I do like it hey he made Spanglish oof despite the fact

that I am 35 now I have never rented a carpet shampoo or i'm not taking advantage of this boy i think i did once when i was like moving out of an apartment just to make it extra clean i just throw out the carpet i live in places without pre-installed carpet and when it's time to leave i'm like that carpet is gone set it on fire throw it out the window i just ran a black light for my own reasons. Then they meet up with Martin and they figure out what they're really going to do with their trip. And I just love Milhouse saying, like, that's been taken. It's like, I'm the nerd here.

Nerding it up. The only reason they have Martin there is that Martin has the money. They are just literally stealing his money from him. What was Martin's role in the Shelbyville episode? They all had, like, different roles, and, like, Todd was the guy who's going to go insane. The Christian guy who's going to go insane. Man, I forget.

I don't think Martin was assigned a job. Okay. But he definitely was the bosom chum of Nelson. That was his job. We don't see that relationship renewed. I wish they would have dove more into that. That is true. Team Discovery Channel.

This episode does, there's a lot of characters in this episode, and they all get stuff to do. And we learn things about, I think, every character, I feel. I feel like we learn more about Marge and her place in the family, and we learn more about Homer via his relationship with Lisa, and the same with her. We learn a lot about Nelson's inner life that we didn't know about yeah we learned that like nelson loves show tunes and making georgia bam second encore but i also love that uh millhouse and martin as nerds they do show

different sides of being a nerd sometimes nerds are just like dweebs like millhouse who just always like oh come on and then others are effeminate, well-meaning children like Martin who's just like, why trust all of you? You're my good buddies. He's drawing attention from my shirt. Yeah, I'm not a nerd. Nerds are smart. That also very succinctly puts that together.

That is perfect. That's how I felt as a kid. I was like, why don't people, because people would just assume I was like, I think it was them actually reading clues of me being a precocious little child. But I would always be like, people are putting so much pressure on me to be smarter than I am. When really it was they were trying to help me not fuck up in school.

But I would always see it as like, no, I hate myself. Do you not understand this? I'm bad at everything. I was being told I was a computer expert. Yeah. I was like, I'm really not. All the time I would hear that stuff because I owned a computer and played City of Heroes. And that made people think that I was like some genius because i knew how to install world of

warcraft yeah i know how to clear a cache of porn like yeah but uh because i put our modem together you think that's why i'm a genius i don't know how to use it i also was like martin a lot as a kid i've said this many times on the show but i i especially identify with him narrating adventures to his toys like oh boy oh boy, Flipsy. I definitely did that with my stuff. I was like, oh boy, Garfield, this is going to be a fun vacation. He's talking to Garfield again. And great sound mixing on the ha-ha when Flipsy is crushed.

I do love that. And Wii World, man, that's a great... I want to imagine... Wii World is like a more fey Toys R Us. That's what I imagine. Right next to Wii Monsieur. But Bart has a cunning plan for what they're going to do. I've been selected to represent the school at the National Grammar Rodeo at the Sheraton Hotel in Canada. I've been selected to represent the school at the National Grammar Rodeo at the Sheraton Hotel in Canada.

I'm going away for a week. See ya! The National Grammar Rodeo? I wish I were going. Oh, wait, wait. I mean, I wish I was going. Is that right, Bart? It's not fair. I'm the best student in school. How come I never heard about this competition? Maybe because you are, as we say in Latin, a Dorcas Malorcas. That's not Latin. Mom, Bart's faking it. Honey, you've had your glory.

Now it's Bart's turn. Sweet trusting Bart. I love Dorcas Malorcas. I definitely called my brother that or friends in childhood. I just love it. This is the first that we see of Nelson's shitty home life. This is the first time we've seen his house, yeah. Previously, he had a dad.

He was the soccer coach. Thanks, dad. Played by Phil Hartman. Yeah, it was so many dates. Lisa, you get to see a lot more. I feel like that's the first time you really like, you get to see his room and the way he, how he's kind of like a latchkey kid. kid yeah we see like just the corner of the outside of his house which indicates like not a great place to be yeah i feel like after they saw this anime they're like

let's go inside this house let's see let's see that nuke the whales poster i'm looking forward to that episode kind of knew something yeah something got new something yeah i i also just love bart's little finger motions on Dorcas Malorcas. And for some reason, Lisa was like, that's not Latin. Really hitting those Ts. They just let it go. I also love that Milhouse's parents just believe him when he's reading it off of a paper in front of them. And as we'll find out later, Martin is saying this to his family believing it's true

yeah that's right this is like well that's obviously what's happening right well they are stealing from him so that makes sense that they would actually trick him so when they hit the road we get an amazing shot assisted with computers of the the camera like tracking around the car it's it's very well done they they didn't computer animated they use computers to keep track of the geometry of the car. As they moved the quote unquote camera around it. So I guess they were using an Amiga. Or some early 3D rendering program.

To figure out how to move the camera around in that space. And it looks really good. Terry, Swinton, Scott and David still remember talking a lot about. How difficult this episode was. Because Road Trip already. They're going to a new place. Animating a car. Not easy. They're having to draw a lot of new stuff. trip already they're going to a new place animating a car not easy they're having to draw a lot of new stuff and then then they're like oh no we want a

filmic major tracking shot that shows 360 degrees around the car just could you do that they could on a cheaper show with less time and less money and people who are not as into making great scenes like that they could have they could have cheated it. They could have done a pan, a cut, a pan, a cut, and a pan and a cut. But man, it's always impressive to me seeing this, even now. That's a common animation thing that people don't realize is that budgets are very real in animation. Sending somebody to a new place is just like sending them to a new place on a live action show. You still got to design it all and draw it all. They talk about that a lot in Venture Brothers where people think our show is expensive but like notice that they never leave the compounds

in this season like notice these things about it then notice these backgrounds that have been the same for three seasons because we have to reuse them because painting is expensive and takes a long time and at this point in time like nine million people were watching the show every week so they had money to spend on on that on stuff like this they got butterfinger money yeah i mean while all they keep doing is cutting the budget on the show is current i i remember hearing on one of the commentaries i i always think back to how the simpsons used the writers used to view the animators that al jean said their original thing he was like well yeah we write this scene and then the elves do it yeah make it up wizard just like wave your arm that's the same thing every like couple years uh a fucking like medium.com article or whatever

comes out with like a gif of 101 dalmatians next to a gif of robin hood next to give sleep beauty is like they reused animation those lazy pieces of shit and it's like no it's because disney movies didn't make money until 1989 so for a long time they had a lot of trouble making those movies and their budgets would get slashed because walt disney died and nobody was there to tell executives to keep that entire wing open they shut down their fucking studio i mean blue was not that popular they didn't put him in movies because he was popular they put him in movies because they drew him before this is when they shut down their beautiful burbank studio and put him in a fucking airplane hangar that smelled

like garbage and had no air conditioning that's what don bluth left yeah that's what he was fed up with that's what brad bird got fired from because he was like uh i thought we were gonna make disney movies here how come you're having me how come you're telling me to be worse and that's why he made the incredibles oh that's that's beautiful i love that story so this was the first time i actually looked up what the name of that song is i just heard it all the time it's one of those things you can't not hear on a classic rock station but i did not know the name of the song was radar love radar love i did not know that the rock band was dutch and called gold i didn't know they were dutch but yeah and that they've had like 30 top hits in the dutch in in europe not so much in america but they did have more than one hit and i have to say i salute their staying power that they had this song, Radar Love, as a hit overseas in America in 1973.

And then nine years later, they have another hit with this song. phone my beatdowns can't move under moon and star boy if i had to pick a song to roller skate to uh that'd be my top three i was gonna say uh in a queue at epcot yeah that's what we feel like yeah i just i forgot that song has bullet hit the bone in it also i'd never watched the music video for it until this research and there's like naked ladies in it that they have to put black bars over because this was how it aired in mtv like i guess in the dutch airing nobody gave a shit it was after what 5 30 so there was it was okay yeah these boobs kids can they'll be fine i don't know i just i was shocked that they had been relevant for so long you feel like i would have figured they were 70s one-hit wonder and i also love the full rotate around the car that you get a shot of each kid too like they make sure to pause and show you what each of them is doing martin is sleeping a lot in

this episode what's his problem i don't know he's not used to all this excitement i guess so yeah also i just love bart's non-committal like he sure did that's one of the my top 10 simpsons lines ever and that's another you know i bring this up a lot in these shows because i was of age at this time but that's another like my friends and i would do something really horrible to each other and then someone someone would be like, did you see that? Yeah, he sure did. It works very well in toxic male friend groups of just like, oh, do you want me to enforce order here? No, fuck you. You got bullied.

And if I try to defend you, I might get bullied too. So instead, he sure did. You're bottom rung here, not me. That's what you say. That's what you say that's what you're really saying and it's a fun parallel to that dad fucking screaming at his kids that nelson smacked the back of his head back to winnipeg oh boy well i want to talk about lisa for a minute folks um on one of my top underrated lisa lines uh next to we've got beats is i'm learning about owls uh so yeah i just wanted

to let everyone know that. She goes to bird camp. We also learned that about her. Yeah, I have that clip here. Diablo Canyon 2. Why can't you be more like Diablo Canyon 1? Hmm. Hello?

Ooh, honey, hello. I can't remember the last time you called me from work. You want to speak to Lisa? Hi, Lisa. How's your spring break going? I'm learning about owls. Oh, owls, eh? So you probably wouldn't want to spend another day at work with me.

Sure I would. I can always learn about owls this summer at bird camp. So many phone calls Marge gets that aren't for her. She's so lonely. Sure I would. I can always learn about owls this summer at bird camp. So many phone calls Marge gets that aren't for her. She's so lonely. So hurtful. Actually, I want to hear that line one more time. Not the full thing, just that learning about owls. I'm learning about owls.

Hi Lisa. How's your spring break going? I'm learning about owls. We got beats. Yeah, again again bird camp There's a weird Lisa bird thing happening In this season too where in Summer of 4'2 She's scared by a bird And she's like you don't control the birds

You will someday but not now That's why she's boning up on birds so much Oh yeah next season she'll get a German language wheel of Bird names Oh you're right wow There's a little bird thing going on with lisa i can relate i try to control the birds i can control at least one sometimes

you're a bird lover you have a bird i i really i really love birds i feel like i i think it's it's almost a life hack to just just think pigeons are adorable and it's like seeing dogs all the time like if you if you live in a city and you're walking down the street you're like oh look at that pigeon he's so fat oh he's so cute'm going to say move over cat videos and GIFs. Bird videos and GIFs are going to kick your ass in the next decade. Oh, I can't wait. That's my prediction. They're much better.

Birds can do way cooler things than just fall off of refrigerators and couches. Come on. In Diablo Canyon, there still are two nuclear power plants at Diablo Canyon. They might get shut down in 2025 if PG&E can't renew their license. Apparently that map is incredibly accurate. Yeah, they bought an atlas to make that map. It is shocking they worked so hard for that. Then, yeah, poor Marge.

She just gets sadder in every scene. And it's a funny joke that no one notices or cares. Not even Lisa, who you think would care. But there's no payoff to it. It's just that Marge isn't happy that's like a really dark i think that's a precursor to like your ricks and mortys and such like i feel like because that's such a common thing now is like every tv character is sad because that's how you feel smart when you watch tv if everyone's too smart and sad i think the pay we'll get to it at the end but the payoff

for marge is that she actually believes bart did something worth being proud of him for and so there's like a little smile from her at the end and a little like happy music like a second of happy music that shows like oh marge got something out of this she by believing the lie marge feels better about bart and her family at least they're furious yeah this this episode i've said many times this episode dispelled uh myths i had as a child and another one was i was sure cruise control was the robot driving your car uh yeah it's not that you can just take your foot off the gas pedal it's that a robot controls your car and drives it it is still a lifesaver i've done like cross-country trips and long road trips i use it all the time i used it rarely but i'm like what is this doing for me i'm just nervous that i won't be able to take control again if i need to you know so i what

if this car has a random stop in front of me and I can't hit turn off cruise control fast enough? Oh, and I did want to ask for this episode to go on another tangent. Are you guys fans of road trips? I'm a big road tripper. I've been on several recently. We even did this.

We recently twice just rented a car and we're like, let's go north or let's go south. We went to see the Redwoods and saw a bunch of stuff. Not really. I'm a killjoy but i only went on road trips because i couldn't afford to fly if i could have flown i would have until until fairly recently in my adult life flying was like i can never afford to fly anywhere i love driving and i know that's weird especially here in the bay area but like i on road trips i do like when we drove across country it was like six days of driving i did like five and a half of those

days because I just like when I was in Los Angeles all week everyone's like how's the traffic I'm like great yeah I just love driving around fucking hate driving in Southern California and when you rent a car you get to rent like a nicer car than I'll ever own like I've driven so many Priuses and Chevy Volts and things that like I'm never gonna be able to afford myself that part is nice I like

nice rental cars I hate driving but I did love the couple of road trips i went on they were they were fun uh though my experience with the road trip was me and my friend being too cheap to want to rent hotels on our drives we can just drive from florida to california and just take one night off and just drive the rest of the way and you make this agreement of uh you drive in the daytime then you go to sleep at night and i'll drive at night and then you drive in the daytime and i'll go to sleep but then at the end of the first fucking day the the guy when i drove all day i was like well i'm gonna try to go to sleep he's like no i'm getting sleepy on the road i need someone to talk to i'm like this wasn't the fucking deal that's some sitcom painting a line down your apartment shit like

that you're asking for trouble there yeah i know it was it was one of those things you got to learn at 23 of just like why did i trust my friend don't trust anyone don't trust anyone your friends are lying to you they're just trying to rip you off to use your car well also that friend ripped me off in that he was like oh you know my dad works at this car place. He should probably check your car before we go. And then the guy was like, oh, you shouldn't drive with two of these tires. You need new tires. I'll take your money.

At the time, I trusted him. And I look back, and I'm like, that fucker stole money from me. He made me buy new tires. Oh, your Rogue Raider flap is real worn down. Take my word for it. It's the worst I've seen in years. That old guy's family. Fuck that, man.

But if you're old friends with me, you know'm talking about him fuck that guy but uh i but i also was like martin in that i was very trusting of people and as a dumb kid and that's why i got taken advantage of by jerks like this guy we've arrived in the vast cornfields of Canada. How much farther to the Grammar Rodeo? Grammar Rodeo? We're going to a Grammar Rodeo? We're not going to a Grammar Rodeo. That was just an alibi, Milton. Martin. Martin.

Fellows? What? Where are we going? Well, I realize it's trite, but we could tour the bridges of Madison County. Hey, who has better vacation ideas than AAA? According to the publisher of this AAA guidebook, no one. I've always wanted to see Macon, Georgia. Wait, how about a fair?

Not just a county fair, not just a Europe fair, but a world's fair. The world's fair in Knoxville, Tennessee. Keep reading. The Hungarians have built a giant motorized Rubik's cube. And the fair's symbol is the sun sphere, which sits atop a 266-foot-tall steel shaft. What's inside? An information desk!

Cool! So, it's a choice between Disney World and Knoxville. Knoxville! Knoxville! Knoxville! Knoxville! I concur. They're off to Knoxville. Let's talk about World's Fairs for a second here. They used to be a huge fucking deal. They would have one every year.

They don't do that so much in the past 20 years. In fact, it's called the World Expo now, and the last one was in Kazakhstan. Oh. Yes. Real cheap real estate there, I bet. These are very expensive things. It bankrupted the city of Knoxville. It cost them $46 million. They didn't make a profit

from this, which is why anytime any city gambles for a big event like the Olympics, it fucks them. Their city is destroyed. They owe money to everybody. It's never a good thing. That's what Akira's about. Yeah, that's true, and it's going to happen in real life soon. It's never a good thing. That's what Akira is about. Yeah, yeah, that's true. And it's going to happen in real life soon.

Yeah. It's coming soon, the 2020 Olympics. Now, yeah, there's a podcast me and Bob are fans of called Citations Needed. They did a whole two-part episode on the lotteryism and about how sports and events like the World's Fair hold cities hostage. They're just like, no, we want the Olympics here. It would be a big deal for us like what it what it like you're kind of fucked afterwards you build all these things only for this like these stadiums only for that yeah but before like the internet and massive globalization um this was a way to be like i can go to it's sort of like a like an epcot center thing I can go see Japanese people do Japanese things

and German people do German things Epcot sort of is a World's Fair in a way right? That's exactly what it was Walt Disney got a lot of his stuff made because he sort of tricked the World's Fair into doing it a lot of the original Disney rides including It's a Small World and stuff were

World's Fair call them like dioramas attractions. You can watch Edison kill an elephant yeah that was that was uh surprising to me to find out i just did my first trip to disneyland this year and going to the lincoln theater and mostly it's just about how they built that animatronic and how it was for a world's fair yeah it was they he he borrowed all these things i think that's also i wonder if that's an intentional joke that they choose this world's fair over the disney world which would have epcot yeah killed world's fairs they even like the yeah he got them to build stuff like it's a small world and was like all right see ya and just took it like he like the it's a small world you ride in

uh in disneyland it's like what people rode then i'm sure it's been i'm sure it's that like well if you replace every part of a boat every 10 years is it the same boat like i'm sure it's that that point that they've refurbished enough that it's not but you are basically sitting in the thing people sat in there they didn't see woody and stitch when they went through it but you know as we do now but yeah uh they would often show off like inventions at the world's fair i think maybe even like television was shown off in like the 1930 something world's fair as like a farnsworth box something like that uh but yeah so i have a commercial for this for this event i wanted to play in full a lot of it is visual i urge you to look it up uh it's on youtube but it's it's great and what i love about ads from this era is that

we are not in like the 90s irony zone so it is the most sincere, heartfelt ballad about the World's Fair, and I want to go to it now. From the red earth of Mexico, it's coming. From China, a piece of the Great War, it's coming. It's coming. From every corner of the earth, it's coming. And it's coming soon. You've got to be there.

Point me in the right direction, I'll be there. The 1982 world's there. You've got to be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there.

If you want to see how history is being made in Tennessee, you've got to be there. Columbia, you have okay to land in Knoxville. Roger, Houston, we'll be there. The 1982 words that you've got to be there. Sun Sphere's there, yeah. This commercial should end with people jumping in the air and it freezing. But I love the narration, like, it's coming, and you better fucking go there, because you're going to miss all this cool shit. You better be dead or in jail, motherfucker.

That also, like, speaking of all that Disney stuff, like, that is the same tone as, like, watching old Disney Park specials, which I watch all the time from the 70s and 80s. That looks like a good time. I want to see history being made in Tennessee. Yeah, I want to see that part of the Great Wall and meet that cop and meet that astronaut. If I lived in the South, I would think, oh, it's a fun time. Sure.

At least from an American perspective, you imagine a World's Fair in a major coastal city or perhaps like chicago not the shit on all our knoxville listeners yeah no offense to knoxville yeah it happened in 1982 and uh it was sort of a failure it cost the city again 46 million dollars in the 1980s and the only two remaining uh things from that world's fair are the sun sphere which, which was renovated in the aughts. As of 2007, you can now go back up there to the Sky Deck and everything and see the information booth. It's not full of wigs. It's not full of wigs, unfortunately.

But I bet a ton of Simpsons fans just go there and annoy the people that work there. If I were on a road trip, I'm stopping in Knoxville to check out that Sun Sphere, now that I know it exists. The other thing that exists now is this amphitheater they built for the World's Fair, which is like one of the biggest blanks and blankety blankets. It's at some

record, but it's that and the sun sphere, but the sun sphere still exists. Nelson did not destroy it with a stone. The sun sphere cannot compare to Osaka's Tower of the Sun from the 1970 World's Fair, which I only know about it because it is a major plot point

in the very great manga 20th Century Boys. That is a fantastic comic. I recommend anybody read that book. But yes, they did their research on this, and the Sun Sphere is real, this World's Fair is real, and its relation to a nearby nuclear

facility is also real. They did their fucking homework, and that's why these shows are so great. And though when I first watched this, I did not know that 1982 World's Fair was a real thing. I was born in 1982. Me too. So I didn't know it happened. And I like to imagine my parents who are watching it, that when they hear a millhouse say Knoxville World's Fair, they get a little giggle of like, oh, come on. That's 14 years ago.

I mean, well, I'm just going like, huh, all right. They're going to have fun. That sounds fun. One, I love Nelson's. He forgot about the grammar rodeo. He's like, grammar rodeo. They say the phrase grammar rodeo a lot in that scene. That's why I love it.

We're not going to a grammar rodeo. Grammar rodeo. I assume he never looked at that paper he just said i'm going somewhere and he threw it on the ground he did throw the paper away it's like i knew never knew that lie at all i don't need an alibi i also love that millhouse is kind of like secretorial with bard of like milton mill martin martin it's so great they disrespect him so much they don't even know his name and also the martin even martin knows it's trite to make a bridges of madison county joke but still they're still gonna do it i think like being outside of the school has really uh like freed nelson from his identity as a bully he's like he's getting emotional he wants to go see macon georgia for

the first time he's sharing his dream yeah i feel like at least once or twice on a trip pre-internet pre-smartphones that i would get a book like a triple a guide to book or just like one of those coupon giant coupon books you'd get at a hotel lobby and just like pour over like oh did you see this did you see this i would do that too like i didn't travel a lot as a kid and that's why i do it i kind of do it as much as i can now because i didn't and that's why i love like I love tourist traps I love seeing I love chain restaurants that I don't have because I want to see all that stuff I didn't get to experience as a poor dumb child who had it was unworldly as you can possibly be I am like Homer I want to have a hoagie a hero a 10-foot sub a hero all the different grinder yeah right I went to Del Taco for the first time when I was in LA

last week and you know it's pretty good are you on Weigey's side? no he's insane did they give you french fries with your tacos there? that's fucked up I ordered them I also got a California burrito with fries in it I don't get that either listen to the podcast doughboys he's insane to think it's better than Taco Bell

but it's very good just them not going to Disney World is a great little joke one there many like hates on Disney which i don't know soon enough well actually we may never see the simpsons at disney world if they signed a long enough deal with universal but i doubt that yeah i don't think in my lifetime i will see the simpsons at a disney park yeah we're gonna have that i don't know i think we're gonna have that dumb boring ride forever uh it's not so bad it's the it's the worst part of going to Springfield at Universal though. You can hear our definitive take on that after we go to LA.

Yeah, Bobby and me are booking our flight soon. Going to go to LA. Going to see lots of cool people. We cannot wait. I did not go to Universal Studios on my LA trip, but I did go to Universal CityWalk because I'm a boring idiot. Did you run into, what's his name? Fred Stoller?

No, is Dizzy Hanger there? Apparently he's always there. Oh my God, I would love to name, Fred Stoller? No, is Dizzy Hanger there? Apparently he's always there. Oh my God, I would love to run into Fred Stoller. I just wanted to get a coffee. You ever go to Boba Gump Shrimp? It's pretty good. But okay, so then Lisa goes back to Homer's work, and I love her thing of security guards.

There really should be some of the nuclear plants i bet the patriot actually turned that around for them we're putting all these sanctions on iran but not on the springfield what the fuck and i uh then there's just such a cute scene with homer lisa and candy it's just like this is just pure adorable the way i figure it if the candy stays in the machine for more than a year, it's up for grabs. Why do you need me? Well, it's a two-man operation, and you're the only man here I trust. Ready?

Ready. Woo-hoo! Simpson, what in God's name are you? Zagnut Bar, Mr. Smithers, Razzles, Skittles, Whatchamacallit, Twizzlers. They all have hilarious names and are delicious. Well, I am partial to Dolly Ranchers. Good work, Simpsons. Simpsons?

Boy, Lisa, with you here, this hardly seems like work at all. I don't know how I'm going to make it through my night shift without you. We could have a slumber party. Oh, that'd be great! Sleeping bags on the floor a roaring fire it'll be just like the time they kicked me out of the sporting goods store i i do i have to question smithers just like his teeth must be made of diamonds to immediately start chewing on jolly rancher jolly ranchers are good i feel like they're much bigger in the 90s they're good but

once you get to a certain point with a jolly rancher it's like a dangerous piece of shrapnel in your mouth it's just like glass like chewing on glass it's horrible I'm a big fan of the whatchamacallit which got it are those still around yes maybe is this the only pop culture shout out to the whatchamacallit like I'm sure it's been referenced on a TV show but that's I feel like growing up no one ever talked about

or cared about it but me I remember the ads for it they had like pop art Roy Lichtenstein rip off kind of stuff. Oh, I don't think I was old enough to see those. Well, I hate you. I don't really eat candy bars anymore, but I'm kind of a take five man. Yeah, I'm more of a take five man.

It's got all the shit in there. I enjoy the take. It's got the salty. It's got the sweet. It's got everything. Caramel is a key component to me for a candy bar, a good candy bar. That's why when I'd have a Three Musketeers, I'm like, this is one part bar a good candy bar uh that's why like when i'd have a three musketeers i'm like this is one part of it we filled your your bar with foam enjoy i guess it would sound

as like the the less calorie option but i mean look if you're eating candy candy bar go for it yeah like come on you fat piece of you're not fooling anybody. I ate so many fun-sized Three Musketeers at jobs I wasn't happy about because they at least had a candy bowl. And instead of taking a smoke break to walk around, I was like, well, I could walk to the candy bowl and back. I'll kill myself in a different way. Just throw it on the ground. Here you go, you losers.

At least my lungs will be okay. There's your 401K. I love when Lisa and Homer woohoo together It's just so cute And also I love Smithers correcting himself to Simpsons Even though he really should know They're stealing

He sees them in front of that machine With all the candy They bribed him He's just so partial to Jolly Ranchers Which is a gay joke It's been read as a gay joke i guess a rancher is a man a rancher is a male job and you don't want a jolly one yeah it's putting his mouth yeah i i mean it's a it's a lame candy to like and he's a lame dude yeah

and i mean what okay let's punch up this joke what's a gay or candy for him to like uh zag nut i don't know but you don't get pixie sticks in the machine that'd be dangerous they Let's punch up this joke. What's a gayer candy for him to like? Zagnut? I don't know, but you don't get pixie sticks in a machine. That'd be dangerous. They'd just be spraying everywhere. I feel like a couple years later they'd throw some sort of diss on the Butterfinger brand in there. Yeah, they would. The classic, even the fire doesn't want it

is a great late Simpsons joke and by late I mean season 14. That was 16 years ago. That was a Butterfinger bb's diss wasn't it extra deep it was when they banned sugar in the city and so they're throwing candy in there including just a regular like photo referenced butterfinger bar into fire and then the bar jumps out and then wig and picks it up like and just holds it to camera like it's a commercial it's like even the fire does we'll see you in three years for sweets holds it to camera like it's a commercial. He's like, even the fire doesn't want it.

We'll see you in three years for sweets and sour marge. Maybe it was behind the laughter. There's some episode where they're like, we can't get rid of these. And they have a million Butterfinger BBs. That was a problem in their office. I think they all gained like 40 pounds just eating Butterfinger BBs. And Conan was a Butterfinger BB salesman. That's right.

I've heard that story so many goddamn times. And what did he throw at the ceiling? A pizza pizza they say it's a caramel we talked to bill oakley about the caramel and he's like the rumors of that have been greatly exaggerated he was not a pro caramel ceiling yeah i think he i wonder if i'm not gonna put words in his mouth i look at it as like that is a jocular freddy type thing that i want I would think that Bill Oakley was trying to do less of in his time running the show. Yeah, and when they started, they were writing in David Merkin's office. They weren't writing in that stinky writer's room. And they had to de-louse the writer's room to go write in it again.

So I think the next line here, we've talked about it before. I think it's the line of the show, the back to Winnipeg bits. I love it. In fact, that's a line I want to say out loud but no one will get when i have to like turn around for something or like if i forget something back to winnipeg there's some fantastic dan yelling in this oh yeah that's the joke you kids can't keep your heads to yourself. I'm going to turn this car around and there'll be no Cape Canaveral for anybody. That's it. Back to Winnipeg.

Bart, can we stop for ice cream? Yes. Bart, can we weigh the car at that weigh station? Yeah. Bart, can we pick up that hitchhiker? I don't see why not. Bart, can we stop for ice cream? Yes.

Well, I didn't think I was rehabilitated, but I guess they needed the extra bed. Great drawing and great reading from Hank on that. But by the way, driving from Winnipeg to Cape Canaveral is a 30-hour drive. No wonder that dad was so pissed off. Yeah, it makes it even better to imagine they're canadian i don't know why yeah if he had said like back to maine or whatever back to kennebunkport i don't know a funny name for winnipeg is funny i would have assumed it was more to the north but it's kind of like close to the u.s border i would assume they would have chosen even even further town but it's still fun it's still a 30-hour drive to the to america's wang it's a

fun thing to say yeah they're almost there too winnipeg and you can hear like that's the thing that comes up on the show a lot like that you can hear the shape of the recording room yeah and then it drops out totally so i feel like it might be two takes put together or he just realized oh i'm screaming that could have been it but i think it comes back oh yeah you're right it's not as it's not as troubling as some of the ones where it's like well this part of the sentence was like in a different room over the phone but I think in this episode it implies that they are the Simpsons live in the western part of America because they hit Branson Missouri on their way to Tennessee yeah so I I don't know if anyone's put together theories. There is no consistent theory, but they're clearly driving eastward. Yeah, I also

just love the Cape Canaveral. Why does this Canadian dad love Cape Canaveral so much? What's his story? Out of all places to go. That was before Obama defunded NASA. He forgot about some stuff he did. We need that money for a bomb. Hey, comments. One bomb.

One bomb. Shouldn't have it at One bomb In a plane that can't fly Also this gave me many road trip dreams That I have not fulfilled Not picking up a hitchhiker I would not do that But no offense hitchhikers out there I'm sure you're nice Movies have made you look

Texas Chainsaw Massacre has defamed hitchhiking so much in this country And the hitcher And all kinds of stuff Whenever I talkamed hitchhiking so much in this country and the hitcher and uh all kinds of i listen this whenever i talk about hitchhikers it reminds me of i listened to one of those liberal uh npr interviews with this guy who like wrote a book on like my life as a hitchhiker what a fun time it's been boy i listened to a lot of true crime podcasts you know what really stopped hitchhiking serial killers yeah like jeffrey dahmer's first kill was a hitchhiker you learned about it's like wow it's just so easy to kill people in the 70s they're just standing right there and they get in your car no one knows where

they are nobody knows who they are yeah it's just nothing it's mostly sex workers and hitchhikers and there's sometimes they can be both and this guy well the guy talked about how he hitchhiked and it was fine and everything was fine and then this dude calls in to be like oh yeah i pick up hitchhikers all the time because i am a minister and i had uh talk about jesus to them for eight hours it's like oh god no thanks throw me out of this car i'll walk i think every time i drive by a way station i want to drive my little like my honda civic onto it and see what they do or see if they i wonder i don't know i don't know if it costs money or not but i also drove cross-country in a honda civic as well i wondered how much what does they're good cars they hold they hold up for a long time i don't want to do an advertisement

for honda but if i ever buy another car it will be hot yeah but uh speaking of true crime podcast and road trips on my again on my la trip where i was driving a lot i was listening to uh the manson series if you must remember this and also the series great series yeah and also the one they did on uh on uh last podcast on the left and man that that makes an la trip exciting to be like i'm driving past the thing right now where they killed somebody all the famous murder uh we do get a brief scene again that just is uh hammering home how marge is being neglected where does marge get a phone call from Homer and it's to, to get Lisa to the plant.

We just heard that clip, right? Yeah. That was before. This is her just alone. Yeah. We see her bother Maggie. I just,

that's actually later. My note is Lisa runs out on Marge again and that's just like a 15 second scene. Yeah. Yeah. And the way Lisa slams the door on her after packing, she's like, I was like,

ouch. Yeah. So I guess we're in Branson missouri now yes uh there's a sign for learnly lumpkin in the background yes and pip diddler who was the guy from yahoo the hee haw parody so dig in deep you can barely see the signs but i have all the signs here uh waylon jennings and madam that's a take on waylon flowers and his horny old lady puppet madam and waylon smith Smithers is named after Waylon Flowers, so there you go. Up with white people. Really, really bad joke, which I just noticed upon this viewing.

Minnie Pearl Jam, as in Minnie Pearl, the character from the Grand Ole Opry. I stunned Henry's parents by telling them I knew who Minnie Pearl was. It's not my fault I'm broken. Phantom of the Opry, Ferrell Dixon in the second Helping Boys Which I think that came up in our interview with Mike Scully Did he write that joke? Yeah I think so Or no that was Grainy

Oh Grainy okay And then again Lurly Lumpkin and Pip Diddler They broke off and I'm glad she's doing well And Alabama Mania I love that one Alabama Mania That would make more sense When I was typing it out I was like it, Alabama-mania. Alabama-mania? That would make more sense. When I was typing it out, I was like, it's Alabama-mania.

And a friend of the show, Brett Elston, he grew up in that area. This is in Missouri, in the Ozarks, Missouri. But if you're in rural Illinois, it's a close enough place to visit. And it is a fancy, family-friendly place where you get the glitz, but none of the swears. I've always wanted to go. I want to make a trip out there someday. Why? I don't know.

It's just because I love tourist traps. It seems like a fun tourist trap so long as you are not different in any way from normal. I'll do fine. They kicked me out for my haircut, I think. They call you the deviant. A lot of words. Yeah. But I think the clock is really running out on Branson. The people that are attracted to

Branson and Yakov Smirnoff and the TV stars of the 70s and stuff, they're all dying. They're dead. They're dying. Yeah. My grandma was a Branson fan. She went several times towards the end of her life and she loved it. One time she brought back a t-shirt where she didn't understand the meaning of it. She had a different interpretation and she brought back a t-shirt uh where she didn't understand the

meaning of it she thought she had a different interpretation and the text on the t-shirt was why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly and as a smoker she was like yes i approve of this shirt she didn't smoke weed though she smoked cigarettes so we all had a good laugh at that and she took it in in good humor my grandma was cool i'll just go to dollywood then yeah go to dollywood dolly parton is at least a friend of the gays despite being a big time Christian. I am pro Dolly Parton.

Me too. And there's a better take on Branson in the episode, I believe, The Old Man and the Key. Yes. Where they do an entire song and I think Ray J. Johnson is even there. Bill Saluga from Youngstown, like me.

Great people came from there. The guy Krusty the Clown said was funny for three seconds. They then got him back. He made a living off of the Ray J. Johnson bit. And the greatest line from the song about Branson is, what if they took Nick at night and made it a town? Also on their way to that, they stop in Bronson, Missouri, full of all Bronson people. That's a great joke. My favorite jokes in Simpsons. I still say, hey ma, how about some cookies? Like all the time.

We'll talk later. The real king of Bronson, Missouri is Look Magazine's favorite, Andy Williams. Andy Williams! We don't need to stop here. Yes, we do! Ha! I didn't think he was going to do Moon River, but then, bam, second encore. So the whole Look magazine thing saying, wow, he still got it.

Look ended in 1972. So that's a very old quote. I love that line. Now that I know more about Andy Williams, I do think it's funny that Nelson didn't think he was going to do Moon River. And the fact that they're beyond the second encore. They're about to hit the third encore probably, everyone is so bored but I just was like I didn't think he'd do it but then bam I I love that too I didn't know the name of the theater is the Moon River Theater yes that's right so if you're seeing Andy Williams you buy tickets to him

and it's in the Moon River Theater and he makes you wait to the second encore to hear moon river like that's cruel it really is some of his audience is gonna die while they're waiting to hear that and he is dead now by the way he died in 2012 uh and uh he was not a fan of obama's marxist uh theology trying to cause america to fail as he put it damn cultural marxism look he was an 80 year old man i would have expected nothing less from him to say that as he put it. Damn cultural Marxism. Look, he was an 80-year-old man. I would have expected nothing less from him to say that, but he was a good singer. I will still listen to his Christmas music at Christmastime because

it's just like, it's the most wonderful. It's just so aggressive. Get happy, damn it! And Moon River made famous and won an Oscar for Henry Mancini in 1962 for Breakfast at Tiffany's. It's like the theme song of Bayonetta 2.

That is the weirdest fucking thing. I mean, the first one had Fly Me to the Moon, right? Yeah. Which is like, you can't do that. Ava did that. It's their song. You can't take it back. But Moon River is better, but still inexplicable in the sexy hair lady game.

Well, so Bayonetta is a witch, and she's powered by the moon. True. So he wants a popular, the creator of the game, the video game Bayonetta is a witch and she's powered by the moon so he wants a popular the creator of the game the video game beta which fucking rules uh but they want a song a famous song that is moon themed so then they do the craziest thing is in both one and two they pick one song that's moon themed and then do a anime j poppy remix of it which they do for moon river which is great but then over the credits in both they played the mastered version of the original like they sprung for it so over the credits of bayonetta 2 they played this the clip they had on the simpsons they played that version

the famous version as bayonetta pole dances. Yeah, you're right. Boy, someone needs to make a Simpsons shit post of Nelson going, Andy Williams while playing Bayonetta 2. But I mean, his version is the most famous one. Moon River is a beautiful one, though I do want to treat people. If you never, you shouldn't watch the Tiffany's because it is aged terribly. But Audrey Hepburn's singing of Moon River is quite beautiful. Moon River, wider than a mile. I'm crossing you in style someday

I feel like I do, Audrey Hepburn obviously very talented. I've kind of grown annoyed with her sainthood and how she is every guy's manic pixie dream girl or whatever. But Paul Tompkins had this hilarious tweet that made me, it was just like a gut punch. It was like, it was him retweeting. It's like Audrey Hepburn in her pet deer in 1956 deer 1956 and his comment is like she must have been intolerable yeah yeah i would guess i saw so many so many art school dorm rooms had posters of her in them

every person i knew i mean she was a beautiful glamorous woman and all that like and and also she she kind of retired early from acting and also died relatively early so she got sainted as a cultural icon in ways that say you know others of her generation like doris day didn't on that same level i would say i you know you're better off not watching breakfast at tiffany's you're fine yeah rough now skip it she did give uh give way to two of my favorites animated series jokes which is uh on archer when he's pulling that boat and he's like when andre and then they then uh lana stares at him he goes whichever hepburn and keeps pulling the boat and then uh on clerks when they're driving past her i think it's her it could have

been the other hepburn and then he just yells screw you miss hepburn and throws a soda at her i think it was the old hepburn was it yeah oh he i also just i do love nelson's earnest love of it he's in tears at hearing moon river live his hands are like clasped together i like it's great when they explore that side of nelson yeah he's the that's the kid who loves huckleberries. That's the Nelson we all know and love. Confectioner sugar. So then we get a fun return of the prank call, which they only work when you got,

it can't just be Bart calling Moe anymore. Yeah, I mean, they ended that in season four. So I like how they find new ways to do it. We saw it in Homer the Smithers, and now we're seeing it with Homer in this one. Hello. I'd like to speak with a Mr. Snotball. First name Yura. Yura Snotball?

What? How dare you? If I find out who this is, I'll staple a flag to your butt and mail you to Iran. Okay, your turn. Truth. Do you have a crush on anyone? Dad. I won't tell anybody. Dad, you tell everybody everything. Even Mo knew when I threw up on the dentist. Mo thinks he knows a lot more than Mo knows. Just give me another chance and I'll prove I can keep your secret. Okay. I like... Langdon Auger.

I have no idea who that is. Nobody does. He's very quiet and enjoys puzzles. But that still doesn't mean you can tell anyone. I've already forgotten his name. It was Larsen something, right? Thanks, Dad. Oh, this has been the best spring break ever.

Aw, Langdon Alger. I like that name. There's a lot behind that name. There is. It's actually a friend of Rich Appel, the writer of this episode, from elementary school. And Langdon Alger saw this episode, and he called the show. And Rich Appel talks about it on the commentary. He's like, Bill Oakley played a voicemail

for him over the phone. He's like, hi, this is Langdon Auger. Apparently I was on The Simpsons last night. And I guess he had a nice call with Langdon and he was okay with it. I like to think I am some lucky lady's Langdon Auger. I'm very quiet and I enjoy puzzles. I mean, that

guy on the voicemail sounds like he's quiet and enjoys puzzles. Yeah, he did an impression of Langdon Auger and we'll see another pull from a real life person's name with Armin Tamzarian pretty soon that Langdon Auger thing it does remind you it's just cute of how when you were a kid you would have a crush for like

a week and then you'd forget like who him? I don't care it's very fleeting I thought Homer's fishing was wondering if she had a crush on like a famous person Elijah Wood I believe

Langdon Auger shows up in a comic book or something I think he eventually I think he eventually gets a semi-canon design and I hope the real life Langdon Auger gets some

money from that some kickbacks no way just like the real life Steve Urkel's life was ruined. Oh, the poor, the poor. It's like, oh, my friend's getting named Steve Urkel. I'll just write him in as this one-time character. Oh, fuck.

Oh, no. His life is over. Larson something is such a great Homer misremembering something. And the line, I love the line, Mo thinks he knows a lot more than Mo knows. Very sinister. Homer's got some plans for old Mo. He's going to fix him good. Or he's just bitter about something.

Maybe Mo's too high and mighty sometimes. Mo will later point shotguns at Homer's face and not even care. I rob now. We get a scene now. This is the scene where Marge is at her most lonely. No one is there. It's very sad that she has to just wake up Maggie to mother someone she has to create a problem I'm glad it doesn't

go beyond this this is like we're getting into Munchausen by proxy syndrome or something it is a bit I do love the line of why waste your hypnotic powers on neighbors and co-workers yes corner the real estate market through hypnosis I mean yeah I it's a little too real of the scene but i i like that it adds that to it to marge it kind of reminds me of um scenes from the class struggle of springfield it's marge seeing how unhappy she is with her regular day-to-day life at times and how it comes through and she's like at first she's like well i'll just cough to wake up Maggie. That's not bad. She's like, nope. I have to shake her. Pokes her hard.

Never shake a Maggie. There's a sound with that. The sound she makes like, of when you poke wakes her up. I'm like, damn. Okay, so Langdon Auger does appear in a comic book. He asked Lisa out to make Janie jealous and ends up getting what this article says,

punch dumped on his head. I don't know what that means. Getting a punch bowl. Oh, getting punched. I was thinking of punch dumped as like a word. That's when you shit on your hand and then punch someone with it. That's a good made up term. Also in the game Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey, which is a game of which I am a fan,

some of the official screenshots in the manual that came with it used the name Langdon Alger and Lance Murdoch and many other characters from The Simpsons as the protagonist's name. They just recently remade that game. You can keep it. You can keep it. It's too fucking hard. It is. It's hard and the dungeon design is kind of rough,

but the story is really cool. I mean, it's the story of the movie Annihilation, too. I'll play Etrine Odyssey. Thank you. Well, I mean, Bob, you were in the localization field that's true and i did put i did put simpsons references in my uh games that no one played uh so if you like free mmos from a decade ago check them out pandora saga you'll find references to the simpsons and the grandma's virginity podcast and both in in that game Are people pigs in that game? Pigs are people. Cool. Pigs are people. Then, meanwhile, the kids arrive

in Knoxville. It's very well observed of what an abandoned theme park looks like, or just an abandoned, formerly big structure. It's just very beautiful. The Wadfur. The Wadfur? Is this the World's Fair Visitor Center?

Used to be. Back in 1982. You're 14 years too late. But there's another World's Fair coming soon. Right? Before Friday? What about the Sun Sphere? You mean the Wigs Fair.

You're welcome to go out there if you want to see 16,000 boxes of unsold wigs. Now, you gentlemen going to buy some wigs or ain't you? Well, I guess fate was against us. It's really nobody's fault, right? Right? Well, we've still got a car and a wad of cash. Uh, no, we don't. I must have spent our last ten dollars on this Al Gordom.

You are hearing me talk. I hate this place. We've got no car. We've got no money. And no one knows we're here. We're stranded. But on the plus side, I knocked over the sun sphere. So each act ends with Nelson destroying something so far.

That's true. Yeah, so Al Gore is from Tennessee, by the way. And also, this is like more wig-based humor from The Simpsons. Free wig with purchase of large wig. And a soiled wig. Soiled wig. And Bart wearing the wig and dancing in the bedroom and a soiled wig soiled wig and Bart wearing the wig and dancing in the bedroom and Homer being upset wigs are funny

wig is a funny word and then there's the idea of like fake hair that you'd put on a man especially the boy the smash cut of like you know buy a wig or ain't ya and then them all wearing wigs is pretty they somehow had enough money for wigs I don't think those wigs were moving very fast so wig technology has come a long way recently i don't know if you guys know

this but in between both guardians of the galaxy movies there was like huge wig technology jumps which uh allowed them to not shave karen gillen's head oh that's good yeah that reminds me of how in the first the first x-men movie they insisted for Rebecca Romijn, they're like, no, you got to wear these contacts. It's just not going to look good, like digitally effects wise. And she's like, they were killing her eyes, but she did it. Then they had to like reshoot one scene and then they just color corrected her eyes and like, oh, that was really easy. But they couldn't get rid of a fucking mustache for some reason. You know, that gets into uncanny valley territory

coloring eyes people are used to like well i can be a different color but i take great pride uh as matt corley says and in my wig dar i like when i'm watching a movie i'm like that's a wig that's a wig that's not a wig that's a wig in this scene it's a wig in that scene it's not a wig that it reshoots i don't have great wig dar unless it is the most obscenely obvious wig of all time like in the kate mara fantastic four wig like that was an insane way i've still never sat through that movie i don't think i ever will uh yeah if they ever release like i want a giant oral history expose on that like i will pay i'll give 20 to a20 to a Kickstarter that tells the truth of what happened on that movie. I will never watch it again.

I only watched it for podcast content. The only reason. The worst reason to do anything. That's why I live my life right now. I live my life one podcast at a time. Hell yeah, baby. I can't pod 55.

I'm staying out of this. I do love that Al Gore impression you are hearing me sorry South Park just ripped him off yeah Al Gore who is a frequent guest on this show

on Futurama what a dumbass for believing in global warming am I right those South Park guys really got it figured out man bear pig am I right

he made a whole documentary about this yeah why are you wasting your time like i think i feel like time has shown who is correct on the global warming thing yeah that's true he did that he made his first documentary too early because not enough people believed in uh climate change or global warming and then the second one he made was like the paris accords are going to be a big

deal and then it came out right before fucking we all decided global warming wasn't real like before all our world governments decided it wasn't real at least he broke up with tipper what a buzzkill uh so now they're fucked they got no they got no money no way to get home and i love they go to the pawn shop which is hawksville hawksville i love it and i also watching the scene it made me thankful that as a young child with thick glasses, I grew up with childhood peers who did not, they drank Coke out of cans. There were no Coke bottles, so I did not have to hear Coke bottle glasses things. That's true.

You talk about wig technology, glasses technology has improved so much. I have very bad eyesight, guys. And before glasses compression really improved, when I was like 10 I had very thick glasses which the thicker the glasses the more obvious a target you are to be bullied. So I was at least happy to never have been told about Coke bottle glasses. I do like the verb

re-bottom. Re-bottom. Yeah he's a bad antiquesman because you're not supposed to refurbish certain things. Yeah, also don't stack your precious glass bottles out in the open. They set that up so hard. You're just like, all right, when are they going to break?

Come on. But yes, it is a pretty funny scene, though. Well, of course I'll accept. Bart, I've missed you so much. I want to speak to Lisa. So how's the National Grammar Rodeo, Bart? Lisa, I really need your help, so I'm going to let you in on a secret. There's no such thing.

I knew it. I knew it, because why would they have our National Grammar Rodeo in another nation? Bart, you're going to be in so much trouble. I'm in trouble already here's what happened so you've got to think of a way i can come home for free hmm you could travel for free if you were a stewardess well how badly do you want to get home all right all right how about a courier they travel for free too no that's a terrier they're dogs i don't know what bart thought lisa was implying yeah like you want me to become a dog like it's better than a stewardess i guess but i also love the right before the scene i forgot the little oh yeah them throwing their luggage onto the train

and immediately pulling away like a very very cute little joke of nelson still running he runs longer than the rest of them before turning around he still thinks he can make it he's like i know i can make it they just lose everything over and over it's such a great such a great fu and i i also love the way lisa listened to her story she has to point out like of course it's like this doesn't matter right now lisa's so proud of herself for seeing through bart's obvious lie like i knew it it, everybody knew it. Marge just wanted to believe him. And, uh, yeah, so this made me want to get a career job briefly as a kid, though now I see

this is, like, no fun at all, and it's all just spent sitting on planes getting blood clots! Bart's in so much danger! You're like George Clooney. Well, you sure don't look 25, but your unlaminated, out-of-state driver's license has proven enough for me.

Here's your first assignment. Not nitty-none. Ah, go inside. What the... Can we call our parents yet, Bart? Lisa, this isn't working. I've got to courier something to Springfield, and it's got to be big enough to fit Milhouse, Martin, and Nelson inside.

Bart, that'll cost a fortune. Simpson, how'd you like to escort 500 Big Macs to Marlon Brando's island? No, I can't take much more of this. I'm counting on you, Lise. There have been some bad Marlon Brando fat jokes, but I like that one. Because he did have a private island he lived on. Yeah, though it reminds me of the critic having a Marlon Brando fat island joke. There's like eight of those on the critic.

Well, if you're like a big fat maniac who has his own island, there are good jokes that come out of that. I miss when private island ownership was to eccentric actors, not like the... Sex criminals? Yeah. Well, I was going to say like the Elon Musks of the world. Oh, yeah. He can stay in space. I'm glad we all know what a dork he is now.

I am so mad now. But he's got a cool girlfriend. All the people who defended him when I would make fun of Elon Musk were like, he's actually trying to do something. He's a good rich guy. I was like, fuck you. He shot a car into space. Money poisons everyone.

Flint doesn't have water. I was at a party recently, and someone was really talking up Elon Musk, and I was just like, I'm going to just sever my tongue. I can't be this person at this party. I can't be the buzzkill. So I wasn't. I just felt bad about myself.

But he's got to know that Big Macs don't keep. We all know that, right? Wait, wait wait wait uh what about all the preservatives i guess but that sauce is on there i would never microwave a big mac after we talked about an extra bread in the middle we talked about it on another podcast where mcdonald's food has about a five minute window in which it's delicious and after that it just turns into like a puddle of slime i don't even i live less than a mile from m McDonald's, which I visit frequently, and I don't even like going and getting it and carrying it home because by the time I get home,

I'm like, oh, no. You just have a wet bag. Yeah, it's the magical spell that's around a McDonald's. You walk outside of that area and you're like, oh, I've lost. You're not tricking me with your glamour spell anymore. No, especially in San Francisco. I don't want to walk down the street

with a McDonald's bag. I'm just like, look, for all the McDonald's, it's like we're in a crack house. We all agree we're here. We're not going to talk about this after we're out of here. No eye contact. Eat silently. My McDonald's has a little bar you sit at

by the window, and that is the prime homeless spot in midtown San Franciscoisco so like you're eating disgusting food that you paid uh not a lot of money but too much money for and you're always looking at the people you're like i should you i feel like elon musk i feel like i'm shooting a car into space when i should be giving you food yeah our mcdonald's and berkeley is sort of like a hobo camp i like they have to have that line there they they only had one line of a character just saying i have to accept this driver's license to move forward but yeah unlaminated out of state

proof enough for me and uh based on my tiny amount of research that is correct cantonese there excellent so goi sai is a version of thank you in Cantonese. And at the very least, aes and non are the same. But I would love to hear from an actual speaker of the language to correct me on this. I'm glad they did that research instead of just having gibberish. I think they're far beyond having just a poo scream gibberish. They do say in the commentary they also hired a real Chinese guy to the guy that he's talking to. They did the dialogue. Yeah, that's not

that's not hank or someone you know so the liberals don't pretend to get offended as mac reigning says we didn't talk about uh fake ids and i i kind of want to go back to that a little bit because um when i was growing up that was like the plot point in every high school thing like we got fake ids like saved by the bell so many movies and tv shows but it's like lovin mclovin was that even, was that in Superbad? Listen, I was a fucking adult when that movie came out, Matthew. I'm talking about my childhood. I was still, I was like 18.

I was still like just past the window where that would be a hugely influential movie to me. But I still think it's really funny. I never encountered fake IDs. They were never on the table. And like the best people would do, they would have like their older brother's ID to buy beer with or their older sister, depending on like what they were. were yeah i never had a fake id situation in my life either i think it was that in my you always count on a 22 year old dirtbag older friend of someone underage of just like if you wanted beer or porn they'll just get this or actually with porn

it was that one of my friends as i would come come to learn later, his dad was just like, he was a porn collector. Nice. He had so much that a son stealing 20 of his magazines was nothing to him. He was like Paul Rubens? Yeah. I just have so much porn. I don't know what's in there. How am I to know?

And by the time I was that age, IDs had like holograms and shit on them. Yeah. All that stuff. The California one is nuts. There's like secret maps and like holograms and waldo's in there and there's like a bear made out of like little pinpricks it's it's bizarre i do like the freaks and geeks episode about fake ids that was a really fun one too i looked that up to see what it was like back in 1981 right as they were getting ready for the knoxville world's

fair they had world's fair mania that show was all about it that's why i got canceled uh but i also again with the timeline bart lost they they arrive at the wig sphere with four days left they've now lost like two they lose a day trying before they call lisa then he loses at least a day with the courier thing he's like i have to get home soon lisa. I can't keep wasting time. Flying from Knoxville to Hong Kong and back, that's a lot of lost time. 36 hours. Yeah, yeah. And to imagine that Milhouse Nelson,

the guy who runs the courier service too, is just like, well, these three children. They must be sleeping on the sidewalk outside or something. It's kind of fucked up when you have... All their luggage is gone. All their clothing is gone. Oh, God. So Lisa is left with no other choice but to tell Homer.

I love this. What's wrong, honey? There's something troubling me, Dad. I don't think I can tell you because it's a secret. Well, you don't have to tell me, but I thought we trusted each other with our secrets now. I mean, I haven't told a soul about your new boyfriend. Langdon Auger?

Oh, I don't like him anymore. Okay, but you gotta promise you won't get mad or tell anyone, especially Bart. I promise. Bart rented a car with a phony driver's license and drove Milhouse, Nelson, and Martin to a wig outlet in Knoxville and the car got crushed and they're out of money

and they can't get home and Bart's working as a courier and just came back from Hong Kong. Yes. That's a real pickle. Would you excuse me for a moment? No! No!

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So they normally, like, Mac or Annie would shoot down Homer turning a different color, but that was perfect. Just him, all of it sinking in. And I love how great Yardley Smith's delivery is. All the things she has to hit. This episode is so long, it goes over the credits. There's, like, content over the credits,

and has the shortest intro, like, the shorter intro that they use. So there's just so much happening in this episode. There's content over the credits and has the shortest intro. The shorter intro that they use. There's just so much happening in this episode. There's like 90 seconds left at this point. When I rewatched this, I was like, wow, it's at over 19 minutes. This is a new plot point right here. It's crazily paced, but I do love

that, Homer, I feel like you would in real life. That's not a cartoonish thing in real life you can see someone gets so mad their face immediately just turns red and the way it's like the the parts of his face that turn red it's even funny with the territory of his face that it covers like it's this perfect oval that you like it stops at the top of his forehead it stops at the side of his cheeks stops the bottom of his. When it could have just been from the neck up just red. That could have been the easier way to do it. But they instead made an artful, funny design decision to also add to the joke.

It looks great. And I do love the suit fogging up as he's screaming horrible curse words. I know I've had that thought of when I've been so angry and I want to try to mask it and handle it better. I'm just like, that's a real pickle. It's the way of talking, of holding in your rage. And then I will murder him. Especially if you're at a job

and your boss tells you something like, hey, you're not getting paid for the previous month of work you did. And you're just like, hmm. That's interesting. And I think murder is legal. I say go for it. Let the courts figure it out. But I also kind of love Homer's maturity here of saying, well, you don't have to tell me. Bad Homer, jerk-ass Homer parent would have said,

you're going to tell me right now or so help me. But Homer has evolved in this episode. At least with Lisa, he's like, well, you don't have to tell me. They're really keeping all this a secret to keep Marge out of it, right? Is this who they're protecting the entire time? Yeah. I mean, I feel like they wouldn't make any sense. Well, then Homer can't punish Bart, which is what Homer wants to do all the time.

In this case, Homer can't do it because he's not supposed to know. It's a real good mix of things there. Also, right after that, when Homer announces his plan, he then has to go like, okay, knoxville like homer an adult in america probably know where knoxville is i don't know homer finally figures out a plan hello oakridge this is springfield nuclear we need to order a uh t437 safety command console uh springfield my computer shows your t437 Safety Command Console. Uh, Springfield, my computer shows your T-437 is fully operational. I suggest you... Oh, my God! Oh, God, no! This can't be happening!

You're operating that on T-437, Springfield? Oh, sweet mother of mercy, I mean... I mean, my God! And have it sent to the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant. Care of Homer J... No j don't use your real name or bart will know forget the name homer simpson have it sent care of langdon auger where they order that that uh console oak ridge it is actually it is indeed the birthplace of the atomic bomb like lisa says wow and it's 18 miles west of knoxville Wow. So again, they're doing their research. This all works out.

In a season 10 episode, they wouldn't care. No offense to the people who worked on season 10. Who we've all talked to by now. Yeah, but they wouldn't have cared about that placement. They would have just said, whatever. And I really enjoy Hank Azaria's reading from boring monotone guy like, Oh, dear Lord, no. Replacing that has to be hundreds of thousands of dollars

at least. And just the dead-eyed look as Homer calmly pours it over. He even puts his finger inside and sprays it a little bit. It's great. They say in the commentary, they say it was very specifically noted. The director was like, straight out arm, don't bend his elbow. That's so

much funnier than just like staring off into the distance yeah i'll fix this it's such a great mix with hank is there he just screamed like i mean my god and homer's just like because he's like the safety inspector we forget that like that i mean at one point he hit a wrong button and almost caused a meltdown like so many things have happened because of that console that totally destroying it could probably destroy everybody in springfield yeah without that monitor but then again homer never looks at his monitor anyway so if it's broken or not does it doesn't really make a difference i also just love his commandment of like forget the name homer j simpson

and i i also love in the delivery how needlessly cruel bart is to the other boys. He gives them one air hole, and otherwise he tells them to just be silent for a long airplane ride. Like three unwashed boys who have changed their clothes. It must be terrible in there. Just shoved in a box. But they make it home,

and yeah, that is why, when they make it home, this is at best the Marge resolution. She's happy again that the whole family is back together. They'll be going back to school on Monday and everything will be normal again. But I don't think I'd go back again next year.

It's getting too commercial. They've forgotten it's supposed to be about the grammar. That's all Marge gets. It's that music sting. Hello? Oh, hello, Principal Skinner. No, Bart has never been to Hong Kong. Good night.

Hello? Tennessee State Police? No, my son's car was not crushed in Knoxville. I don't know where to begin telling you what's wrong with that. Hello? No, Bart is not available tomorrow to deliver a human kidney to Amsterdam. Homer, are you laughing at me? So this episode, the way it ends, I guess Richard Powell said it was a lot of episodes of Newhart would end this way,

of like a phone call in bed over the credits of like sort of summing up what happened in the show or like making jokes about what happened in the episode that was before that so yeah that's why he wakes up in the other show right when they find out the other it's Newhart and Newhart they wake up in the bed from the Bob Newhart show yeah

but that that was the bed they'd have those phone calls or summing it up conversation yeah makes me think like a lot of the a lot of the Homer and Marge in bed talking about stuff must have been like but that that was the bed they'd have those phone calls or summing it up conversations yeah makes me think like a lot of the a lot of the homer margin bed talking about stuff must have been like inspired by new heart if that was like a common scene in uh in that show and they're all inspired by new heart was that a brook show or was it the other guy uh well david merkin worked on it he worked on new heart not yeah not the bob new heart show new heart's the one that people like the most though right i think so yeah that was the hotel one i think with sitcom fans they they like both of

them but new heart is the wackier and crazier spin he's a psychologist in that one or something psychiatrist in both he's a psychiatrist okay yeah well no he runs a hotel in new heart new heart he had a background of previously being and he's just he just wants to have a normal hotel but he's surrounded by insane uh locals which is the one that destroyed all those people's kidneys with the high bob drinking game are you aware of this at all and i think that's also new heart as well yeah there's one i think it's new heart where the the recurring thing is some people always say hi bob to him when they when they show up so people would play a drinking game where they drink and bob newhart had to be like don't do that because that's bad and there's even uh when he hosted snl in like the late 80s the

cast was like playing it with him like while he was just standing there so they he was like no and he had to tell like the cameras like no one should play this game i think it was i think vitamin farley like it was somebody who like yeah somebody who like we shouldn't have been making jokes about bob newhart killed chris farley wow which I gotta say I'm probably jinxing it but we're weeks after that episode Bob Newhart's still with us at Simpsons Cars yeah yep uh I'm just for more Bob's in entertainment I mean he's the only one I'm aware of that's still working are there any other Bob's am I am I just all rest upon my shoulders yeah that's true okay so I'm next in the line succession after Bob Odenkirk dies

it's me it's my turn Bobby Cannavale does he count Bobby Moynihan Bobby Moynihan let's not forget Bob Balaban Bob Balaban yes these are all old Bob's I still got it you're the new Bob yeah I hate to think of Bob Odenkirk as an old Bob but I think

he's like 50 he's in his 50s yeah but the last thing I like about this episode is how the principal Skinner thing, which starts the episode so early you completely forget he went to Hong Kong. So when he shows back up in the last couple minutes to see Bart in Hong Kong, it's just such a great like, oh, yeah. You don't even need to have him there to see Bart. He could just exist on the phone call at the end because we know he went to Hong Kong, but I love that they took the time to show him there.

Yeah. It's great. And that he's, out of all the places he could be eating Chinese food in Hong Kong, he's eating at the Hong Kong airport. Yes. Probably found a good deal there. That's some real pre-9-11 flight in this episode, too. So, yes, thanks for listening, folks.

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at patreon.com slash TalkingSimpsons, you get every episode of TalkingSimpsons a week ahead of time and ad-free. You get every episode of What a Cartoon, our other animation podcast weekly, a week ahead of time and ad-free. That's what we do. We take the TalkingSimpsons approach, but with different episodes of different cartoons so there you go you also get all of talking critic 23 episodes of talking critic you also get all of talking futurama 13 episodes of

that all of our end of season wrap-ups all of our interviews with people like david silverman mike scully bill oakley dan grainy mimi pond and so many more to come what am i missing there's more there's more stuff going on in that $5 level, right? There's the entire first season of Talking Simpsons. That's right. If you've gone back through all the episodes that are on the free feed, and you're like, hey, they didn't do the first 13 episodes. They're all there on our Patreon as well.

That's in the archives, as well as the deleted scenes for seasons five and six, and soon to be deleted scenes for season seven. Not to mention our premium videos for folks who pledge ten dollars a month or more they get access to one video a month where me and bob go through some classic simpsons content like the original simpsons shorts and the deleted scenes in video form as well tons of cool stuff that's on there oh and our monthly community podcast talk Talk to the Audience. It's a lot of fun.

And if you give it that $5 level, you will get an RSS code that can plug into any player you use to listen to podcasts. And it works just like your regular podcast. It will download everything we do automatically or however you want. So it's very easy to set up via Patreon. Again, patreon.com slash TalkingSimpsons. As for me, I've been Bob Mackie. That'll keep happening in the future. You can find me on Twitter as Bob Servo

and check out my other podcast Retro Knots go to retronauts.com or look for Retro Knots in your podcast machine or directory or whatever you use it's a classic gaming podcast

I think you know it by now but if not check it out I think you'll have a lot of fun with it Henry where can we find you? I am at H-E-N-E-R-E-Y-G on Twitter and you'll find updates

about this show and all of our goings on on there if you follow me plus angry thoughts of mine. But yeah, that's it. So follow those cool things that I do. And definitely, if you're still not listening to What a Cartoon, give it a shot, folks.

We go through so many different shows. We just did a Cowboy Bebop one and a Space Ghost one, which I think are totally worth your time. Thanks for joining us, everyone. We'll see you next week with 22 short films about Springfield. Wow. Infotainment.