Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Bart vs. Lisa vs. the Third Grade

Episode Date: July 19, 2023

This week we're reaching the end of production season 13/starting broadcast season 14 with a tale spurred on by hate of reality TV (not to be confused with the three other eps just like it). This time Bart loses his mind from TV  overload and gets sent to third grade to join the advancing Lisa. Turns out they adjust to it differently in a plot that brings us back to Capital City with some returning season 2 stars. All that, plus robot history, googling Japanese pronunciation, and a couple of fart jokes in a weird episode! Support this podcast and get over 150 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

This podcast is brought to you by patreon.com slash talking simpsons head there to check out exclusive podcasts like talking futurama talk king of the hill the what a cartoon movie podcast and tons more. I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, hoy, everybody, and welcome to Talking Simpsons, where dogs eat barf solely on Wednesday. I'm one of your hosts, the emperor of last year, Bob Mackie, and this is our chronological exploration of The Simpsons, who is here with me today, always. The world I grew up in is gone, it's Henry Gilbert. And this week's episode is Bart vs. Lisa vs. the Third Grade. And the Lord said, let there be crap. This episode originally aired on November 17th, 2002, and as always, Henry will tell

us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh my god oh boy bobby un weapons inspectors return to iraq for the first time in almost four years michael jackson dangles his son blanket over a balcony and matching the theme of the first act of this episode the season two finale of the bachelor gets more than double the ratings of this episode of the simpsons you know henry you're the history of this episode of The Simpsons. Henry, you're the history monger of these podcasts. I'm going to request no more Iraq war or Afghanistan war updates because there's one every episode for at least like three years now, right?

There could be. Yes. Yeah. Okay. It's not your fault. It's America's fault for doing this, but I have nothing left to say. Once the invasion happens. Well, I'll also say I dug a little deeper on this one

because if you're a patron, you've heard our Futurama on Jurassic Bark. This aired the same night as it, and I was trying not to repeat any stuff from that. But yes, the march to war is continuing. I want people to know, obviously it's hard to forget, but yes, the Michael Jackson,

when he was alive and had a baby this was obviously we all thought he was a freak at this point but him dangling the baby over the balcony in an extremely dangerous way like the baby's head was covered up yes yeah and he was doing it for his fans and then it was extreme child endangerment obviously michael jackson child endangerment uh people have those thoughts a lot i think and so soon after this i think this would lead to the bad pr that would make him do that bbc documentary with martin beshear that then led to more lawsuits the one where he's like that's ignorant that's ignorant that's all i remember because of south park and

there was and it also featured i believe one of his friends who's a little boy that would go on to sue him right civil court this is why we can't see stark raving dad anymore yep something i'm fine with by the way it's easily available if you know where to look listen to our podcast that replaces the thing of it but yeah and that i barely think about the major moments in reality shows that were happening at this time because I was so firmly against watching any of these. But yes, season two of The Bachelor, the finale ends. I looked up what happened to The Bachelor and his chosen fiance at the end of it. Though they didn't even get married and broke up three months afterwards.

They only did it for TV. I don't know how many bachelors end up happily married. The only other time I know anything about a bachelor lately is one of the early bachelors end up happily married the the only other time i know anything about a bachelor lately is one of the early bachelors came out as gay and said that obviously when he was on the bachelor he was supposed to marry a woman so it was part of this coming out process and this bachelor was some banker it turns out banker whenever whenever i see that an attractive celebrity uh female celebrity is married i always check because it's either another attractive man or some finance guy somebody extremely rich yeah you know that bachelor show i hear i hear people joke about it sometimes i always wonder how close do they get to the edge of how filthy is it now i

wonder because i remember when it was new it would be implied that like oh yeah we had a date and she slept over a kind of thing like how much more explicit do they go like look these reality contestants on this dating show they're fucking off screen i remember when on south park when they actually killed kenny for a while and they did a bachelor parody episode in which they were looking for the new friend and handing out roses and things like things they do on the bachelor while watching it i had no idea it was a bachelor parody the girl i was ending at the time had to tell me like this is a bachelor parody you know that right i've i've never seen this in my life that was still funny it was still funny at the time that

was the start of us wanting to be outside of what was entirely popular in pop culture and wanting to be ignorant in on some level now i had seen enough maury povich to understand when karma was like i do what i want i knew what that was from. Oh, for sure. That was back when the Maury shows weren't just paternity tests. Yes, there was more than just paternity tests followed by dancing. The one side or the other is going to dance in those paternity tests. And Blanket Jackson is actually Prince Michael Jackson II and BB. There's a bunch of names this guy has, but they're apparently a YouTuber filmmaker now.

I think they're 21 now. Really? Yeah. Wow. Well, I guess I should have figured they'd be doing something. I guess if they were a baby 21 years ago in this air, then they would be an adult man. And I think it's next year on The Simpsons that they do a joke where Homer is dangling like baby Bart out of a window or something.

Right. Man. See, that's another one I wanted to wipe out of my brain. So you might notice that there is no guests on this episode. And no, you're not not hearing things. We're not having a guest on this one because we're trying to record a few episodes a little quicker because Henry and I are in the midst of a big move. Me to Canada, him to Seattle.

We need time to move there and of course, set up our respective recording locations and all that other stuff. So for a few of these Season 14 ones, it'll just be me and Henry. But if you've listened to our miniseries ones before, you know that we do a good job just on our own. Yeah, we love having guests on the show. And you'll see we air another one for our Season 4 episode this month. But it can be kind of tough. And when we're to schedule guests all the time and when we need to get a bunch of stuff banked before a pig move

uh sometimes it's easier just to not have a guest on and i'm sure no one is thinking who are these creeps yeah i think i think you're pretty used to us here but it's been eight years come on uh but i mean this you know i i don't feel too bad saving a a guest from this isn't like a terrible episode but it's not like great. You know what? I kind of like this one. Yeah. I really feels like Al Jean, we're feeling the effects of him sitting down to do commentaries and we're

seeing the return of so many elements, especially in season 14. I feel like this is the direct echo of him doing a lot of commentaries. I totally agree with that. Yeah. Well, I guess then really my biggest negative is on the first act. Cause I,

especially the reality show stuff, but also the the watching tv stuff i'm just so al jean he just loves tv jokes so much everybody watches tv so much in his season it is a hallmark of his episode writing but i i will say that in i believe it Wired Shut, they did a what are the movies like today kind of sketch in which what is going to the movies like they did that back in Colonel Homer. Now, in 10 years later, after Lisa, Homer versus Lisa and the Eighth Commandment, they're doing what is cable like now? I feel like they're doing updates to these old ideas.

And I like that. It's like, I'm sure they've done. I think I've even seen like, what are streaming networks now? Jokes on The Simpsons. They've done a few of those. It was definitely part of the joke in that Sirius Flanders episode from a couple years ago. And I like, it's like, let's update our satire for modern times. Because they've been on this long, so things have changed in 10 years.

And in 2002, I guess, DirecTV or whatever they're parodying, that is modern times. But it's funny, if you go on a walk, look at how many houses just have those like barnacles that aren't functioning anymore. There's still areas, numerous areas in America where it's preferable to the satellite dish to cable because it reaches out farther into more rural areas. But it's also is one of those moments where it feels like they have to make an excuse

for the Simpsons to own a thing they shouldn't afford. But because they're like, well, I'm trying to go from my experience as a highly paid comedy writer so the characters just magically need to be able to afford this but yeah I absolutely agree with you Bob that this feels like Al Jean he's now doing season two commentaries and in fact there's a moment in this episode that I was like oh oh, wait a minute. This episode was worked on during a commentary they did in season three. And I'll call back to it when we get to the moment. But it's like, yeah, if you listen to the season three commentaries, you can hear them working on this episode that they then do commentary for in like 2010 or 2011.

Yeah. It was fun to actually get to the episodes they mentioned in the commentary that were in the works but this this does have a little bit of the stuff that modern simpsons i think has kind of a problem with too with like they watch the classic episodes but they don't want to be exact like a character will return by name but then you're like wait no no that's not exactly right with somebody well i know you're waiting for it, folks. It's the return of Mary Bailey. If you listen to the commentary on the first Mary Bailey episode from season two, Jean will say, and we're bringing her back.

We just wrote a new episode with Mary Bailey. So I appreciate that Jean is now in season 14 getting into the history of the Simpsons. But when they lean on it a little bit as a mega nerd, you're like, well, then why don't you get everything right is how you end up thinking. But you're right. There is a lot of TV watching because we start with watching regular cable. And then once they get the satellite dish, we see what's going on there. And I will say to people that I kind of stopped being a regular cable TV viewer in 2007 when

I went to grad school because I just didn't have access to that anymore. So I totally miss like digital cable and satellite dishes and TiVos and DVRs, that entire thing. I like, I have no cultural touch point for any of that stuff. And when I go home to visit my parents, they used to have digital cable. And my one takeaway with that is like, oh, every channel takes three seconds to load and I can't deal with this. Oh man, that would drive me nuts. I can feel myself dying. Like what's on Comedy Central? Oh, it's South Park.

If you have enough time to think about that, then you're thinking about your imminent death. Yeah. It's like, I could be looking at tweets right now. This kind of stuff I was never a part of. And then when I met my parents, it's like, oh, there's like 40 ESPNs and so many things they can't access. It's a weird world for me. No, i am not in over the i cut the cord a long time ago too i only experienced it visiting my mom and they also pay for it but they were their cable they

they live in one of those more rural areas where they have like satellite cable or satellite internet and so they do hulu live which is basically like sling that's offered to me whenever i try to watch something that is not offered on regular hulu and i'm like who would do this but i guess some people need to well their reasoning for it honestly is nuts to me well one i totally get that they want to watch live television which like that's how they prefer tv but another thing is they want to watch their local news. And I just want to shake them of like, you gain nothing by watching news, local news, except fear.

That's all you get from it. There's no reason to watch local news. Read your local news online, maybe. They're living in a fairly new area to them. These local newscasters aren't familiar, right? It's not like, I got to see what Jim Johnson is doing. I just think it is, you know, an older consistency thing of like well we're going to bed but we got to see the local news what happened like let's stay informed but when i've watched it

with them every time they're like horrible car accident police arrest this man here's a video of a shooting and it's just in general i think it made to make you incredibly scared to never leave your home if you live in suburban america well the one thing i will say is that uh with local news when i was growing up the anchors were very much the kent brockman of their time in fact one of them uh was named tom holden a very kent brockman style name he was actually my announcing class professor at college he did that on the side and i'm making the drink drinking motion because he needed his booze money he was a big alcoholic like miss hoover yes implied to be in this episode but now when i go home and i on a whim i'll turn on local tv and i'll see like oh my god these people are like in their late 20s maybe at the most i don't like when they're young

to me now no i don't like that either i and i know in youngstown ohio they're making 12 an hour to be filmed doing the news and they hope to graduate out of this to any other market probably pretty quickly yes uh no the the only time i interface with regular television with commercials is when i watch pro wrestling on tv and that is when i see the lowest of the low commercials like but this is just and this is stuff that's on tbs and tnt this is not cash for gold commercials that you get on like fox news or whatever where no other people advertise like this is supposed to be cream of the crop and i'm getting ads of like the cheapest type of car insurance you can get or something that seems like a scam of like we erase your bad reviews off of google like it's so corny yeah no no no my restaurant was poisoning people i was actually trying to google the name of a mover recently to check reviews they must have hired one of these

services because the like first page is sponsored or other bullshit but like they must have paid somebody to scrub their google results and move stuff down we're on a lot of tangents right now i have one memory though when i worked at one up.com the video game website no one remembers anymore we were under ign they took away all of our resources we had no community manager no one to do any tech stuff and i was kind of on point sometimes to do community management we would get dms from all of these people that were like i started my blog there when i was a kid and i need you to take it down because i'm applying for jobs you need to take this down and i had no powers but my inbox was full of messages saying please take down my blog page i can't let employers see this it's like well your avatar is mario butt fucking princess peach you can change that just sign in

and change that they want it all scrubbed away oh that's actually i think like 20 of the avatars on one up were the animated gif of mario like paper mario humping peach and the one up thing coming out of her butt. I remember that vividly. Yeah. I saw that around a lot. You know, gamer culture at the time. God.

How did we... This is why they were so resistant to even just a moderate feminist showing up to be like, guys, let's think about how women are treated a little bit. They're like, fuck you. Killer. I'm going gonna send a bomb to you god uh yeah that all those kids i hope they got jobs because i i had no control over taking their blog page from 2002 where they put the words gay and the r slur a bunch we are lucky

to not have lived through that yeah we were right before it i mean we did put things online as well that could come back to haunt us or we regret but we i'm too powerful now but not when we were 16 we don't have things from when we were 16 yes i've seen this said a few times on twitter but often it's this general feeling of hey everybody let's get mad about like this what this 16 year old said it's like honestly that's so engaging in quote tweet dunks it's just like this is probably just like a stupid fucking teenager. Like they don't know what they're saying. Yeah. There's one YouTube channel I watch where they kind of riff on like terrible YouTubers.

And the one thing they've said is we always check to make sure they can at least drive a car. So we know that they're not children. That is an important bar to clear. Yeah. Yeah. That's just internet responsibility. But yeah, i guess the other bit with this episode is like this is tim long sneaks in a lot of canadian stuff but this

mainly seems like a bunch of nerds bragging about how they got to skip a grade yeah mr l gene who got out of high school at 16 to go to harvard whoop-dee-doo i mean yeah i wish i skipped a grade i think we both had talked about it we both had the opportunity didn't we i know i did well this is one of these things that still haunts me a little bit but just as a kid i do first grade we moved to atlanta i'm gonna go into second grade but because the age cutoff is different in the new state than it was before i'm gonna be the youngest kid in the class instead of in the same age group and so my mom and i think dad too agreed like out of fear that i would be bullied for being too young they wanted me to repeat the first grade oh really and i didn't need to at all i was excited oh wait you did this i had to do it

well i i if it had been my choice as an eight- old, I would not have done this. I cried and cried. I told my mom how much I didn't want to do this. Didn't matter. It happened like it wasn't my call. I don't think I knew this about you. It's you could be graduating class of 2000 along with me. I would have been in the same. And most of my friends as I grew up were a class ahead of me because I felt more in touch

with them. But yeah, it upset me quite a lot for a very long time. I totally get where my mom was coming from. I was a weird little kid who got bullied and I can understand that she would be worried as a weird kid who's just coming in and being the youngest kid in the class. She's worried I'd be bullied even more. Like I get it. And maybe if I could talk to, we just did a duck man episode all about this, but if I could talk to the other version of myself who experienced second grade as the youngest kid in class, he would tell me, I wish I lived your life because that haunts me even more. But at the time it really upset me.

I did not like it. I'm pretty sure I could have just started in third grade, but there was the fear. Well, you're a five-year-old or a six-year-old. This is, this is too much for you. So we're just going to start you off where it's age appropriate so as a result everything was very easy and i never learned to study until it was too late which is the gifted kid curse that is exactly what happened to because i got to repeat the first grade like bart in this episode a similar i knew a lot more things i got to relearn the things the second time it probably i think i would have been

gotten and gifted anyway but it did give me like an extra year of studying and to be ahead. And yes, it, it, that also made me kind of a lazy student as well. And to be honest, the bullying and alienation and ostracization didn't really start for me until high school. I was a pretty funny loved kid in grade school, so it wouldn't have mattered. Not me. Not me.

It was tough. I think you had, you definitely had a worse high school than me, but grade school for me was a tough one. Yeah. But look, this isn't about comparing battle scars, but it's funny that Gene says, oh yeah, this was like me and my sister, except I was Lisa and she was mean to me, even though I was the older brother, even. But it's because he was a big Dorkenheimer.

He's like, I want to read my comic books uh daljean has a nerdy voice unlike my voice uh same here hey he's out there in the picket line doesn't have to be that uh we're recording this right after they had the big simpsons picket line meetup of like a lot of people were there even james l brooks i don't think he was marching for a long time. He's very old. He shouldn't march all that time. But Conan O'Brien was there and I saw people who were there that said he was really there for the whole time. He didn't just show up for the photos.

You can see what being out in the sun for more than a minute does to his skin. He was just beet red in the photos I watched. It's dangerous for him. He's going to get a melanoma. But you know what? He's worth probably at least $100 million. He can afford it. But this episode begins, though, with a couch gag of get smart a long one i did know get smart

as a as a teen because i watched all the reruns on nick at night yeah and i wish i was a bit older when it came on nick at night because i don't think i was ready for that kind of humor it like very deadpan rapid fire i feel like it's a smarter version of batman yeah yeah it's cut from the same cloth but a little smarter it was nighttime batman instead of the kids afternoon batman i still liked it as a kid i mean also because the second i watched i was like that's inspector gadget is is what my thought was i think i had like oh that's his voice and this is where it came from right i did find the thing that Gene references on the commentary. He mentions that in a then recent TV Guide Top 10,

Get Smart was ranked right below The Simpsons as the best TV openings of all time. Just let you know the top 10 of this 2010 one was Simpsons, Get Smart, Mary Tyler Moore Show, Hawaii Five-0, True Blood, The Big Bang Theory, Dexter, The Brady Bunch, Mad Men, and Sopranos. mary tyler moore show hawaii 50 true blood the big bang theory dexter the brady bunch mad men and sopranos just let you know where uh where people were feeling about best openings back in 2010 it's a real mix of like there's nothing in between it's either like in the last decade or 1990 or earlier openings i don't know true blood seems like recency bias. It was such a new show.

And I mean, Dexter's opening is fine, at least visually. I can't remember the tune of it, but it's a series of honestly, Simpson style jokes of misdirection. Dexter's opening is the only part of Dexter that holds up. That's true. It's so well done. But Mad Men and Sopranos, obviously, I remember those were great. Hawaii Five-0 has a great song uh though i tried to look

like okay that's what they were saying in 2010 uh tv guide doesn't no longer exists um but not really uh but paste magazine did a similar list like this in 2017 number one still was the simpsons on their list and i'm not going to read you the full 75 they have hey we have time but number two is fresh prince of bel-air hey yeah that shows you younger people writing this pace list than that tv guide list that's a great premise explaining theme song it's a great theme song and meanwhile get smart not even on that list so no boomer was present for the writing of that list but yeah after that animal survivor yeah well to go from a couch gag that's a long tv parody to then straight to

another tv parody and man survivor if you're gonna come at survivor i need a little something better you best not miss this is so lame yeah actually i felt the same way because i recently watched run ronnie run and that has a survivor parody which i guess has a little more bite to it but still i don't like seeing these they're not really making fun of the concept but just like what if something fucked up happened on survivor and that's kind of the joke it's not a mean thing about how like survivor you know is bad or is boring or contrived or whatever it's just a joke about like well we heard about this premise what if this and it's one of these things there's several times this episode where i'm like this is them intentionally trying to write like a season four style episode but the problem is family guy bit that style so

hard that when they do cutaways to tv parodies like this it feels like a lesser family guy joke it feels like well family guy would have had a little more like bite to it yeah it would have been a lot meaner yeah although i do like touch the stove that's my favorite yeah i do like touch the stove that feels more like a just randomness of simpsons i think simpsons way better with making up a new low for television instead of a parody of a tv show i don't think fear factor was on tv quite yet but it feels like a premonition of what that kind of reality show would be where it's like you hurt yourself or do something disgusting in order to be famous on tv touch the stove has been far outlapped by reality television now though i will credit the act uh the animators that when they are showing the animal

acting it follows the graining rule of realistic animal acting oh fear factor was on tv oh okay like i probably checked it out at least a couple times to see what my favorite guy joe rogan from news radio was up it was great when he was just the fear factor guy and also uh he was the enemy of carlos mencia that was a good time that was a good time and we we empowered him too much by raising up all like yeah you'd tell it like it is to carlos mencia now he can't stop telling it like it is now touch the stove made me think that there is a or was a netflix reality show more like a game show in which you were electrocuted it was called flinch holy crap yes yes or slapped you can be electrocuted or slapped

uh well see i know that the ufc president dana white he started a new thing called the slap fight league i think people are deeply concerned about how they're going to be murders slap fight murders if you let someone slap you as hard as they can in the face like you're gonna die also in horrific timing right before the premiere of slap fight dana white was filmed at a nightclub hitting his wife into the face like he his defense was well he said obviously it's wrong it's bad he did not resign he did not quit any job he's like yeah it looks pretty bad it's bad anyway i gotta promote slap fight this is the one time he could have done the we were rehearsing a play thing it's like we were rehearsing slap fight she asked me if what

would it be like to be on slapap Fight. So I showed her. It's the only time it would have worked. It's horrible. It's horrible. But yeah, and I said this to you before we recorded, Bob, but like in six episodes, they do four reality show parodies. They are so annoying. And I get why they're annoyed at reality shows.

That's why Homer like looks at the camera and explains it to us. But I get it. You guys are sick of reality shows. Yeah. It's like, what was the fear they it'll be too expensive to make the simpsons anymore 20 years ago like just the last episode of season 14 production season 13 was from our vacation which starts with the same deal with taxi cab confessions oh yeah it's conversations in the parody yeah but in that they say much cheaper

to produce tv show and they just explain like oh yeah this lisa basically does the same speech she does on this one and then i believe the last cell animated show to air is helter shelter which is a reality show the simpsons are on that's like a plot reality show instead of just like watching 17 reality shows like but like simpsons has always commented on tv and it was what was the biggest thing of the early 2000s? It was the explosion of reality shows, starting with Survivor and followed by Bachelor. And soon The Apprentice will be entering our television homes as well. I think people understand now that the reality shows are like wrestling, because it was sort of that like gotcha when people would say, you know, reality show is a misnomer.

It's actually scripted, blah, blah, blah. You know you know that that gotcha well i think people watching the shows totally understand that now and they're fine with it i would think most people watching reality shows it is like how i watch uh wrestling of saying like well obviously i know this is fake but i also know there's a kernel of truth to what this character said about this person so oh i'm invested now oh boy the last reality show i actually watched a lot was tricksy motel about tricksy motel the drag queen and oh i get it and her partner basically renovating a motel in in palm springs my favorite bit in it was at the end they go like well time to go on tour and tricksy stands up from their confessional spot and the camera just

follows her to show you the complete artifice of everything they were filming but at least for the confessionals to this camera I honestly think the real world that tv show taught producers of this kind of content you need to make things happen for the people on the show or else nothing will happen because so much of the real world was just people sitting around doing nothing and there was one season where the premise was, you guys are going to start a business. And that actually never happened throughout the course of the season. They had conversations, what is it going to be?

But the gist of the show is you're going to see them running a business by the end, but it never happened. I remember when they did the Vegas season, they regretted it. The producers are like, we went to Vegas and they just partied and got drunk and fucked every night. It was too much of a good thing. We thought we wanted this and they did it all of the time. The Simpsons will be right back. Watch out.

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A year ago, you said they were the greatest thing that ever happened to us. I've grown, you haven't. And now we're back to Touch the Stove. So, Kevin, I hear you collect amusing postcards. Yeah, it all started when... Touch the stove! I can't take any more of these shows. If I wanted reality, I'd finally have this lump looked at.

Networks love reality shows because they don't have to pay writers or actors. Stupid writers and actors priced yourselves right out of the business. Nice going, geniuses. Hey, let's get one of those home satellite dishes. Then we can stop suckling on the six-network teat. Get back, honky-cat. Those systems are too expensive. Marge, we can't pinch pennies on the machine that's going to be raising our children.

Come on, kids. Daddy knows a way to get the money with no risk. And the one of our nose is no risk. You know, it is very fun to make Marge say crazy things. We learned that when we just covered her saying, Violet diarrhea. Yes. But you can go too far, and this is the case of it.

Get back, honky. And when she said that, I was like i was like wait yeah what song is that and i remembered marge is referencing a song of the man that homer kidnapped on valentine's day oh is that elton john it's elton john okay i had no i had no clue about that it's uh one of his earlier ones you can see why that and like crocodile rock made him first not seem like a rock star but almost like a novelty act with uh with that kind of stuff so the i showed you before and bob the secret deleted scene on the dvd and it's all because they fucked up the animation honestly it's not like a big loss i would say as a joke what was it called like i'm telling mom or something we're gonna tell your mom okay and it's like a camera pushing into a house and a lady's making out with another teen on the couch

and she's caught and she says when's this gonna be on tv yeah because she wants to have a big party yeah she signs the release and everything but it was a complicated camera move and they forgot to give her a lip sync so i assume it's just like well this is not funny enough to pay for a retake so yeah so i'm glad they at least included it on the thing in a secret instead of in the regular deleted scenes so if you guys pull this one up on the youtube video of all the deleted scenes it's not on there because this person just filmed what was on the dvd in the complete set not getting the secret ones and we're in the middle of the wga strike right now as of this recording and i'm seeing a lot of funny simpsons references on the uh the sign boards someone should put that homer quote on one of them with homer saying it good yeah that you've priced yourself geniuses like

and he's even complaining about the actors and sag well who knows when you're listening to this but it's looking possible that sag will also go on strike meaning no actors as well as writers which that really does halt production on any guild tv show out there i like that march points out the inconsistency because homer is the type of swine who should love reality shows but for the point of this episode he needs to hate reality shows and be sick of them for no reason he just he flip-flops and touch the stove i love that the payoff is that oh no it's not a challenge to touch the stove we're going to grab your hand and force it on the stove like this is torturing

you you don't even have a choice in it also that complaint about the reality killing tv thing i swear dana gould had this exact routine on stage yeah yeah i mean i understand why creatives were upset by this but now the new wave affecting uh these kind of jobs is ai which i think is much more dangerous than other kinds of shows coexisting alongside yours yeah reality really did get to coexist a lot more than i think people feared though they were right to fear it if their their ultimate fear was executives are going to try to fuck us with some new thing which is correct to believe yeah and because of the writers guild strike we're seeing a lot of reality shows being greenlit for the next season because they're going

to be running out of writing soon though uh danny gould's routine i remember he summed it up really well just like reality shows aren't real because the people on it know they're being filmed and so they act a certain way to create situations and so you're watching actors who can't act try to script moments with no script it's like then just watch a scripted television show instead uh but that's uh it's really all comes down to the editing, which also like reality producers and editors. They aren't writers like anybody else, really, because they have to take hundreds of hours of footage and find a story to cut around in it.

And most of the fun of reality shows are just hating people you see on the screen. I mean, whenever I find myself watching one, I'm like, God, I hate everyone and I want to see them fail. And then you see a character say another person on the show like man i hate this person like yeah i agree with you man i gotta watch more of this person i hate the other person but yeah they also have to have this i love that no risk is a way to say they're going to be gambling but they have to do this because for the simpsons to live in a way that is recognizable to the writers they have to hand them a magic pile of money

because the Simpsons really shouldn't be a satellite dish family in 2002. Yeah, I forgot they built in this joke that explains why they get the money for a satellite dish. I think now they just would get one and there would be no concern over the finances. I think even Scully would probably give them a dish. But I think Al Jean's thinking, okay, let's think back to Simpsons and their limited economy. Let's actually try to justify this i mean they didn't want to give the family a laptop for so long but now all the family members all have every tablet or smartphone you could have there's no thought of like well no they can't 30 years ago they would have said bart

couldn't afford the fanciest cell phone but now it's like you cannot imagine a child not having a smart device in their hands. He just wouldn't be a believable child. So the installation joke, that one, I like that it is about how long it takes. But now I just had to set up cable at our place in Seattle. You don't even wait for a person to come anymore. It's just self-install. I think it's been like that for me for at least a decade or more. It's just the the

modem shows up in the mail and you have the means to plug it in in your own apartment i'm glad we've been liberated from waiting for a man to show up and you know get behind your tv and all that crap and it is very simple now though on that self-install it just wouldn't do it and i was on the phone with a person who was trying to be helpful, but I was trying to, there was just no way to do it to tell them like, no, seriously, I'm not an 80 year old person. I know how to turn on a modem, but they had to do the whole checklist of like, okay, now isn't turned on. Now is it plugged in? Now what's the light? The second time when I set it up and had to get a new one and go back to the store and get a new one, that time I got got a person who is sounded like they were 10 years younger than me and they were like oh okay i understand you know what a modem is and

it was much easier to communicate that's good they also understood we we knew we were on the right track because for some reason we referenced devil may cry with them and then they're like oh devil may cry i love that game i was like okay all right anyway after waiting all june and september homer gets the new satellite dish installed yeah we see september on the screen ned is just has a bunch of sparkling word play which uh feels just like some filler but it's cute and all this is when they finally get it all set up homer realizes red goes to red which seems crazy to him that's where we get the opening line of bart saying the lord said let there be crap uh we then have a fun little 2001-ish reference of a bunch of monkeys in the satellite though it does feel very family guy too i just i'm very tired of the space odyssey references

even 20 years ago i just thought we spent the whole 90s doing this guys in 2001 a bunch of monkeys not as fresh as a bunch of monkeys at typewriters in 1993 in last exit to springfield but this is when just like in the cable one it's we watch a bunch of television and what's on there and that starts off with the time code news feed version which this feels almost libelous to say that tom brokaw has an eating disorder it's starkly funny in a joke they wouldn't do today i appreciate the realistic foley on the puking because it's in this episode wait which episode is it in is it large march where millhouse pukes in the next episode yeah but they don't have the puke sounds but here it's visceral the puking i wonder what what made them take it away the second time it was the flag

we were right after 9-11 you can't hear the splash on the flag yeah and one other thing when we did the uh i think it was called worst episode ever whatever episode it was when comic book guy got a heart attack and bart had to take over yeah it was set on that commentary that harry shearer is actually a collector of found footage and he was the one who let them know like oh if you watch the satellite dish feed of news networks you can see what's happening between commercial breaks. And so often very funny things happen when networks found out that was possible. They shut that down.

Wow. OK, so that you're right. I remember that. It was like Ken Brockman picking his nose or something. He's picking his nose. Yeah, that's what Bill has. Yeah. I like the time code on it.

It's very realistic i mean this is also how a couple years after this is in fahrenheit 9-11 where they show the news feed footage of the white house announcement of the invasion that is the stuff you're not supposed to see yeah getting ready for it uh which yeah they they knew that people were watching and they broke it down which is too bad with pro wrestling aw dynamite if you watch it in england they don't have commercials so the the feed where they go to commercial, the announcers have to talk, but they know they're not on TV in America. So they act much wackier and they're having a little, they're a lot looser, let's say. And then speaking of jokes they wouldn't do now. Yeah.

Hey, Lise, want to try some satellite TV? We've got Japanese friends. Do you like my new shirt? It says Reggae Hairstyle Rock and Roll. Could I be more Japanese? You are the emperor of last year. Your comeback

shames me. How about the clock channel? Coming up on the clock channel. Six o'clock. Wait a minute. I saw this one. Bart, I have to study for the elementary school achievement test, and so do you. Hey, I don't have to study on the weekend. It's Wednesday night. Kids, kids, you're both right. We're back with who wants to marry an internet billionaire?

Ah, no, millionaire. Well, now he's broke. Oh, boy. That's a lame ADRr joke i wouldn't add to that one so japanese friends uh it's it's 2002 what's going on here it's honestly like a step back from mr sparkle like this feels like a mad tv sketch or something that is so true god yeah i mean i was just thinking of Mr. Sparkle. In that podcast, Nina Matsumoto, she helpfully explains the dialogue and how they translate and everything, but they actually went to real trouble of getting people who speak Japanese to record the dialogue and do it. I feel this would be at least a little funnier if it was at least less offensive to me if they

did that again and hired Japanese actors to deliver these lines. And with subtitles. Actually, it would have been not the most inventive joke, but it would have been funnier if the authenticity was there. But instead, it's like, oh, Tress McDowell doing an Asian voice. Very broad Chandler, Asian Chandler, Japanese Chandler. Yeah, I mean, could I be any more Japanese? That's also funny because Hank Azaria is friends with Matt Perry. Yeah, and the joke about, you know, mangled English on a Japanese shirt.

They did it already. You shirt, they did it already. You know, they did it with, in the Mr. Sparkle episode, when the guy answers the phone, he's got like rock and roll something something on his shirt. Yeah, which I mean, when I first went to Tokyo, it's not like you don't see those shirts, but literally anytime I saw English words anywhere when I was in Tokyo, it is more memorable to me because i couldn't read the japanese text on things so any place i i think it's more memorable to americans than it is as a fashion choice in japan and though also now i do know enough katakana to know they at least according to google they goofed on this or this was a real like replacement thing so friends they wrote it like fu ren su fu ren su but the proper way according to google is food and zoo zoo okay should have the two markers on it to make it zoo not it should be tomodachi or nakama japanese french should be nakama it's too they just did

a replacement for it but yeah i mean it's okay to do the same joke, but you have to actually do better. And in season eight, Mr. Sparkle, the guy answering the phone when Homer calls the Mr. Sparkle Corporation, he's wearing a shirt that says, champions of winning, superb. And what they don't do is pause on it

and have the guy say it out loud. Yeah, that could I be more Japanese thing also sounds like ADR to me, where it's like there was nothing here so could we just do japanese chandler i can see a simpsons producer in the editing bay saying i don't know if people can read that zoom in on it and then we'll have him say can i be any more japanese i'm surprised that when they do a give me shame joke they didn't also do like a seppuku joke or something there too i'm sure i'm sure it was pitched i oh man and i would bet the pitches they did in the room were even funnier

than what were in this like oh boy oh the accents they were throwing around but oh yeah this was another thought i had our phones today just are the clock channel like you can have the clock channel on your phone at any time it's true there used to be a number you called to give you the time. The internet apps have replaced everything in this episode. But same with watching news feeds. Same deal. But I like that Homer is correct. Lisa is right that it's Wednesday.

But Bart is correct that he shouldn't have to study on the weekend. Both things can be true. You know, I'm thinking of all of the ideas Al Jean is dusting off. You know, i'm not saying that in a negative way it's getting cable what is that like it's also doing standardized tests from season three like we're going and then mary bailey comes back of course and now we'll see it soon they're calling their shots for at least two more episodes in this episode oh really yes and i'll point it out well you can see them discovering ideas that they will use

later can be fun to see that sometimes. We were just seeing that in King of the Hill. We're like, oh, wait, they're talking about a dolphin encounter at La Granta, you know, five episodes or ten episodes before they do it. So then they cut to Bart and Homer being lazy. Good visual gag of Bart having Homer's beard line because he's covered in disgusting chocolate. It's a five o'clock shadow of chocolate.

And Marge tries to entice homer away from the tv with pie but instead he just wants it shoved into his mouth but he doesn't want ice cream to me not pig he draws the line at having ice cream shoved in his mouth that would be too far also talk about how they had jokes in season two for the cable episode this is the next level they had the joke that homer left a huge indentation of his body in the couch this time instead homer is simply passed out and bart is squished into homer's gut and using it as an account it's a nice reveal you think he's on a pillow at first but it's actually homer's gut the indentation he leaves when he gets up is very funny too and robot rumble these robots are so futurama looking i'm sure it felt like a little nod even though futurama hasn't been canceled yet i feel like they're trying to uh just show people some fun robots this made me remember how much i found battle bots boring

they pointed out on the commentary they're totally right the best robots are the wedge shaped ones that just flip over the other robots you're not going to see like bullets and razor blades and buzz saws it's all about flipping a robot over and then you win it was so boring yeah when my friend pointed that out as a as a youth when we'd see it i was like oh yeah this you'd see cool guys were like oh this has a buzz saw on it this has whatever it's like no the way you win is flipping over a robot so it can't move anymore so you need to be the best wedge to get under the other robot and flip it over oh and speaking of cheap reality tv replacing shows i liked i remember i loved comedy central in the late 90s of course we all watched it at mystery science theater and dr cats and strangers with candy

yes upright citizens brigade and i knew we were in trouble when i'm watching a new episode of upright citizens brigade and there's a commercial for an upcoming show and it's battle bots and i thought oh no yeah i know these sketch shows that are filmed are very expensive and i was right uh the writing was on the wall it's something i actually said to mad bester to his face in an interview that will never be released oh right right god that's really too bad i mean battle bots so much cheaper easier to produce you uh you just go to an arena and film for like you know a month maybe tops and then you have 60 episodes and then it came back recently and went away again i think it's back again now yeah i first i wrote down in my notes that battle bots was like a ripoff of a uk show

called robot wars but that's not entirely true so robot wars did come first it was hosted by the guy who played lister on red dwarf at least in the the first season okay and craig charles yeah craig charles yeah yeah and uh and so robot wars was a hit in the uk first when they came to bring it to america there it's like a split ownership of it like robot wars was the name of this event that a guy started in america and then this uk tv show filmed it and then the guy wanted to sell it as a show in america but i believe the uk side was like no no we own the name robot wars now so then the guy who invented it had to change the name to battle bots to make it a u.s show but i just

remember when battle bots was big and i was hardly a regular watcher of it then i would see another network on cable license the slightly older like three years older uk robot wars okay oh wait which ripped off for which i thought yeah i think i just generally assume we ripped off the uk show and i mean we kind of did obviously we wouldn't have battle bots if robot wars wasn't big there first but at the very least it has some weird shared ownership someday when we do our battle bots history podcast oh god i'm looking at the history of battle bots it was only on comedy central for i guess three years 2000 2002 so they're getting the parody and as the show is being taken off the air and i was reading what the president of programming for comedy central was saying like why did we air this well it's a parody of sports without being a parody so they

at least felt some responsibility to stick to the premise of their channel in the year 2000 now it doesn't matter yeah tv shows are everything is on everything but that's that's funny that he has to put this has to set up like oh it's a parody yeah it's not just reality show and then it came back on abc in 2015 for about a year and then it's been on the discovery channel since 2018 oh so it's part of the it must be on max as you pull up my max app and see discovery channel isn't that uh oh that is max yeah it's warner discovery look i don't blame you for not knowing all the ones i i i barely remember i that's the kind of this is the reason why they own everything.

It's because they made BattleBots for like a dollar an episode, right? Yeah, yep. It's Discovery 1. It's very sad. It's fun to see the robots seem to agree to kill all the humans, but instead the other robot turns on him and slices him half down the middle. Good animation on that too. They're calling their shots here. Not really, but they do a similar idea this next season because the episode i do bot features bart entering a battle bots competition

with uh he doesn't know this but homer is inside of the robots i remember that now and that's how they bond right man homer getting like beat to shit inside the robot now yeah that was a good one or yeah well maybe it's good you'll be held accountable for whatever you say. Don't remember this in 18 months from now when we cover it or whenever. Yeah, then they, again, like you said, they go back to separate vocations of, it's time for the test. Lisa's been warning about it. Her using the word Fortnite like that, obviously kids know what Fortnite is now.

It's a video game. But I was surprised when I first started working with British people. They use Fortnite unironically. Like, it's just a regular word for them. Do you really need to refer to that much time that often? And why just say two weeks? Just say, oh, I need this two weeks from now. Like, I need this in a Fortnite.

It's just, I don't know. To me, the word Fortnite just has always sounded like Shakespeare talk. Like, not something a modern day person would say but brits were very confused i say like like i believe it was we were editing some article and i was like fortnight why are we putting this as in this is before the video game existed it's sort of like four score and seven years ago uh we're not saying score anymore to refer to 20 years right maybe british people still are i don't know but like how they still use stone to refer to weight yeah what the fuck man henry has a real bone to pick with british people i'm sorry british listeners i love you guys but it's just my old employer this is really what it's about i just have a tiny clip here but i felt marcia wallace sounded very tired this day. No pressure, children,

but these test results will follow you for the rest of your life and beyond the grave. I also think it's ADR because the mouth motions are all off. Yeah, maybe it's a last minute thing she was called in. She was already recording like special Edna this year and they got her for this. But she sounds just tired.

I don't know. And though maybe it too is just unnerving to hear a dead woman say beyond the grave maybe maybe it's unnerving in that way and this is where bart goes insane i do like this uh this clown and you know what uh a few people have said that we refer to dana gould too much but i i hear dana gould's voice in so many of these jokes incredible scene where this clown says it's finally happened you've finally gone insane i could see dana gould pitching so much of this stuff it's hard not to it's how you hear like

oh that feels like a conan or a george meyer thing just said in it like it is about entertaining the people dana gould's becoming that guy on the commentaries like that however he commentary during the conan era or about the conan era is telling like oh conan did this funny thing doing this funny thing it's not on this one but in the large march commentary they're telling a story of like here's a funny thing dana gould would do in the room like yeah but in this case i love the triumphant music where the hobo clown says to him that you've lost your mind and then you think it's gonna be troubled but instead it's like this like duh duh duh and just a turnaround on bart and it's going to be troubled, but instead it's like this like, duh, duh, duh, and just a turnaround on Bart. And it's also a lot of fun to see Bender and Pikachu hanging out.

Yeah, like literally Bender on model, but then their parody version of Pikachu. And the Bender too, this has to be the only time he was animated on cells, right? Oh yeah, yeah, that's totally right. He might've been in missionary impossible in the the pledge drive scene with like hank hill right but yeah one of like two times i'm guessing this has to be the only other time then because the only other pre-digital simpsons appearance of anything with futurama was a couch gag where fry drops in from the shoot but no bender in that one yeah i think that missionary impossible scene is the only time peter griffin was ever on cells too yeah yeah because uh the the cruel appearance of him in

the three outs of horror was of course digital but this little dance sequence is fun the bard is bar mitzvahed by bender pikachu tom brokaw and the japanese friends and all the japanese friends that's a lot of characters to move around in this scene uh and also though for me as a kid in class remembering tv in class was something i would do if i finished uh if i finished the test early i would challenge myself like can i remember this entire simpsons episode from beginning to end and then they just shrug at you in your dream cloud like i don't know and then i get ha ha that as well but this was i did good enough on tests i did not stay up for a fortnight like bart did

which that explains why he's insane i understand i always finish tests early to the point where i annoy teachers and they often took my reading material away from me i have to stare at the wall and run out the clock or imagine simpsons episodes as i close my eyes i've probably simpsons episodes taught us to do that by that scene of bart saying, like, I'll make up my own fun and just imagines the box factory or fails to imagine a new episode of Itchy and Scratchy. We then get a quick little bit of MC Safety in his full song here. I'll just drop it in. Now, I thought this was really funny as someone who had to sit through a lot of these assemblies and even at the time, not being cool as a child, but knowing this is so lame. And they think they're being cool to you like staying in school and by 2002 making fun of 80s rap was also i mean i love jokes about how innocent and slower paced 80s rap was like

and then we go to a place and we do this and we like to sing and hip and hop announcing who you are often explaining what even hip-hop is like well hip hop it's so much train tracks being laid down to explain what you're even listening to because it was so you have to prepare yourself like uh debbie harry with rapture she had to sing for about two minutes to get you ready for the rap he's like well now that you've listened to my great singing so far i you're ready for my even better rapping oh boy that rap part of that song i'm glad it's usually cut out in the radio versions yeah i i do guys from mars they're eating cars they're driving cars and eating mars bars it's not much better than that that's right yeah uh and uh well on gene i do like al gene even he's remembering like you know on elf we wrote this same joke about a corny rapper.

Like that's how old corny rapper jokes were. I want to hear more stories from Elf. I'll be on some Elf commentaries. And this is the second episode in a row in which the word diarrhea is shouted by a character. I honestly didn't like that. I don't like this. I liked it more with Marge because it wasn't about public humiliation. It was about Homer.

Well, it was about humiliating Homer, but he came home drunk and he shat all over the closet. Marge is just telling the truth. Yeah. She's not doing it to hurt him. But, oh, and MC Safety does return his MC birthday in season 15's The Arty That Came to Dinner. Whatever.

The Zip That Came to Dinner. The Zip That Came to Dinner. Thank you. Skinner comes out and says, look out beatles which or watch out beatles a good old man line this does feel a little like less mean than old simpsons because everybody's celebrating lisa like in the merkin years a similar moment like this happens to humiliate lisa in front of everybody as was the intention of skinner instead skinner is trying to build up lisa and it's bart that tears her down

yeah that's true lisa has a moment here and i think the mercenary would rob her of that yeah well i mean the mercenary wants to humiliate most characters a lot more though also this uh i'll i think the gene era is lightening up too on the i feel fewer reasons to play the lisa's beliefs jingle dot mp3 we're gonna we're gonna play that on large march though don't worry all right yep we sure are bart learns a lesson himself when trying to humiliate lisa lisa because of your outstanding score on yesterday's big test you're being immediately moved up to the third grade. She's not so great.

She got diarrhea when we went to Carl's Bad Caverns. Okay, Bart, since you like attention so much, I have a second announcement. I was going to tell you this privately, but because of your incredibly low test score, we're sending you back to third grade. What? I gotta be in the same class as her? What? I gotta be in the same class as him? They're gonna be in the same class as each other? An old army buddy is visiting manix i'm gonna say dana gould once again that any reference to manix feels like it must be a dana gould thing anything from 70s television yeah i we're giving

maybe we're overly crediting dana gould for all these things we're gonna keep doing it yeah homer was watching school span that's uh that's because there's so many dang channels. They even have the local school on it. Dana Gould, you know, he was also at that big picket line in front of Fox, which was cool to see. If we, man, you know, if we weren't in the middle of moving, I'd have considered buying the cheapest flight possible down to Burbank to see if I could. I'm sure.

Let me hold up a sign. I'm in the WGA. I'm sure when they're fighting for their rights to survive as writers they want to meet fans maybe well hey you know what I didn't spend money on any funds but I bought a ticket to see you you know our actual colleague Julia Prescott was there too maybe she could have vouched for us well she wrote an episode she deserves to be there maybe if we saw her there she we'd see uh she would pretend not to know us and she'd be right to do

so if we were there for autograph we need more imdb credits all minor for podcasts yeah she's got a speed on that as a simpsons podcaster who also wrote an episode of the show and not we haven't written one yet but yeah everybody's shocked even mc safety and uh so then after that uh that dangerous commercial break uh we head to the third grade class which i do like tim long identified correctly like oh what's the thing we haven't done yet in 13 years on the show seen the third grade class basically i mean there are one-off references to you know third grade or like i think uh if i were to get a frinky act right now yeah like bart says i heard that story in the third grade and like a treehouse of horror or whatever okay or in the great money caper bart says my bike was stolen in the third grade but you've never seen

the third grade class up to this point and of course we got mrs mcconnell named after a teacher tim long had a crush on as a kid he tells a funny story about just thinking she was incredibly hot and being a little kid he followed her home and she very confusingly served him dinner like why are you here well i guess you can have dinner with me so that's the hospitality you get in canada when you uh stalk your teacher i know i guess it's cute when it's like a uh uh, I'm assuming an, an 11 year old stalker instead of a, an adult man, someone before the teenage age. Now I was looking, Mrs. McConnell, she's kind of got a personality.

I like her. It's Tress McNeil just doing a standard voice. Uh, I was like, did she come back? She becomes an extra in the background because you know, she enters the cycle of being an extra and she did come back in the episode. It's called stealing first base. And we recently talked about this one because it's the episode that they wrote as a gift to Michelle Obama, who did not show up.

I remember those two things independent of each other because I remember the kind of like uncomfortable. It definitely feels like a parent's thing of like, oh, is it innocent if a little boy kisses a little girl or something? Or is it not that kind of thing that I storyline just just made me like i don't want to know these questions the the writing a gift for obama and having her not even be on the episode was very embarrassing and there's a joke in there that they definitely wouldn't do today that this writing staff wouldn't do today where michelle obama not played by michelle obama is meeting everybody in springfield and she meets abe who starts like ranting wildly and she's like

we've got somebody like that his name is joe biden so it's just like they would not make a joke about him being a ranting old man today that is great that 14 years ago or 13 years ago the joke was oh yeah this guy's a crazy old man yeah hey they've made more jokes about bernie sanders than joe biden so i think it's safe to say that they probably wouldn't go there don't go there yeah they would say don't go that would be right there we see that mcconnell there's a reason she doesn't hang out with the other teachers we see up until this point it's because she hates them she lets all the kids know that miss hoover is a drunk and the miss mrs krabapple is a slut we see the return of the drinky drinky motion i love the drink motion it's fine i mean she does have a drinking problem like she's uh always with her

drambu and drambu is tasty you have to mix it with things though right yeah you know straight drambu i i ain't saying no to that over rice what do you mix it with coffee you put it in coffee uh yes you can also make i believe it's called a rusty nail of just it with more straight whiskey so uh like half and half i think it's also in the godfather too i know all of this from the sloppy boys cocktail podcast okay our pals the sloppy boys see them on tour no wait what's their fourth album coming out soon don't see them on tour it's impossible they had to cancel a tour that's why oh that's what happened yeah they uh for innocent reasons mike hanford admitted into rehab what am i reading no mike hanford hired to write on a tv show that's a kind of rehab the kids they're getting used to the class this is

when like okay so lisa is too smart like she should be in college this has been established in this production season and yet here is it the pressure of second grade that makes her lesser than bard what's what's going on here i think's the pressure, and she's overthinking all of these things. When they're designed for someone below her intellect, she thinks she's got to try a lot harder. And because of that, she misses the point. This reminds me of one of those exercises you would get in grade school, where it would be like an entire list of instructions of what to do for something. And it would say, make sure you read all of these instructions before you start and it'd be like one do this two do this the last instruction says ignore everything else and just write your name on this and turn it in and it was a big trick to

see if you were actually reading instructions i think i think i had a teacher get pull that on us too this happened to me at least twice the second time i knew like it's a trick just read the last thing you wanted to stand up and be like don't waste your time kids fellow children but this this feels like one of those tricks like were you listening we said a rooster lisa you were overthinking yeah i guess it's one of these things like oh lisa's too smart for this but uh then bart meanwhile has a great memory from being in the third grade which when i did have to repeat the the first grade not for any grade related reasons but i'll admit it was easier oh i bet though what i had to learn in the suburb of atlanta was different than what i had to learn in the suburb of little rock this is not like southern jokes of like uh

gorsh like but it was kind of like they taught you you had to wear shoes to school though it wasn't that atlanta suburban class that's where i got my first like ultra conservative teacher that i've told this story before where on something as a kid i wrote xmas instead of christmas and the teacher got really mad at me like she gave me a talking to over that i think you still say xmas to hold your grudge don't you absolutely yes we did a recent king of the hill podcast and you had to say christmasy but you stumbled on your like x i guess i have to say christmasy yes it's it's fun to say x-mas also as a kid i also went by the name max and x is in max so i i always felt more like the x-men yeah yeah it's the x uh i was having an x before the x-men

were cool obviously the x-men are 20 years older than me, so it's not like I predated. And this also, speaking of them bringing back old jokes, when their desks are clamped together in a funny bit of animation, Nelson has back his magical teleportation powers. It's been a little while. Yeah, I like these. One of them is so funny, it's even an act break. He just shows up to laugh at jerks. Laughing at jerks?

So this is when they're learning geography and Bart shows that he has a canny ability with mnemonics. Quiet nerds burp only near school. Bart, I'm doing my geography homework. I know, that's how you remember the four original provinces of Canada. Quebec, New Brunswick, Ontario, Nova Scotia. Quiet nerds burp only near school. And here's how you remember their principal exports. Dogs eat barf solely on Wednesday, Mabel. Stop! I want to learn on my own! Canada's Governor's General. Clowns love haircuts, so should Lee Marvin's valet.

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there's a very canada focused class because tim long is writing this i wonder how much this is that it's like it's tim long bringing up his canadian stuff or also that because everybody was making fun of each other all the time in the writer's room like uh hey mr canada why don't you put in all the stuff about the original provinces of Canada? The Canadian, the Governor General of Canada, which I just went to sleep reading it on the Wikipedia. It's like the officer of the monarch, I guess. It is the federal vice regal representative of the Canadian monarch, who is currently

King Charles III. Oh, really? Yes. Okay. Now, Tim Long, though, he moved from canada to america big mistake uh when i married backwards yeah when i married my canadian wife they thought she was moving here and we were both like no no no no i wouldn't do that to her i would not do that to her and so far how many times you've had to clarify the like what she would never live in america like no way but you know tim long he had

hollywood dreams also dogs eat barf solely on wednesday mabel that's another good one though of course so this is the one that i was like wait i gotta double check this this is on the commentary on homer defined because in that one they talk about how they had a red fox joke they had to change because he died and at the last minute and they mentioned on it that they just did an episode where they had to change out james coburn for lee marvin oh okay this is that this is it okay wow james coburn died the week this aired uh lee marvin had been dead for a while though right so that way they could just be like well we're not offending anybody else now we we can mock lee marvin james coburn is an equal pull compared to lee marvin in terms of pop culture yeah they're pretty much the same guy they have ease in big famous westerns they'd be guys fighting john wayne or clint eastwood but though of course lee

marvin sings along with killing eastwood instead in paint your wagon and what a voice he has so two whole notes so then we have a quick joke about these kids today what crazy names they have tyler and dakota and ashley ashley i think it's more like the all the white kids have the same names and i'll tell you what i taught classes at a college about look close to the end of this decade the the 2000s and i swear to god there were eight ashleys spread out throughout my classes. Ashley was a very popular name given to children born in the early 90s. Why so popular?

I don't know. Well, now we're in the era of like Kaylee and Braylee and Mason and all those. I looked up. So I was like, okay, if you're in the third grade now, let's say you're eight to 10. And I was like, okay, what were the most popular baby names of kids 10 years ago to see what this joke would be that now and it'd be noah liam jacob sophia emma and olivia those were the apparently the hottest baby names both male and female back in 2013 2013 okay i noted that they're handing back math tests and when bart has a better grade than lisa he lists all

the answers he memorized. But the final one is Williams Jenning Bryan, which should not be on a math test, which it makes it even funnier. It could be extra credit. You never know. Williams Jenning Bryan, of course, I believe is the major party presidential candidate to have lost the most times. He was the Democratic nominee three times and lost, which I feel like you only get one

chance these days unless you're perhaps donald trump i guess we'll see will he be in prison when this goes live he could run from prison though yeah yeah and then uh i would guess probably pardon himself he'll run and he'll win i mean honestly stealing this from felix biederman on the choppa dropout podcast but you're usually better off guessing on the funniest outcome and Trump winning while also being under federal investigation. It would be pretty silly. Also, I mean, horrible, horrible for America. But what are we acting like we have any prestige left as a country anyway? Could we be more of a joke? Could we be more?

To quote Chandler. And I, you you know at first i thought it was over the top and i was like i think the teacher being this mean to lisa is realistic there are mean teachers out there who just have it out for some kids i think the bar was set low for me because my sister is three years older than me and let's just say she was not a good as of a student as i was and so i think they're like mackie huh well let's see what you got and I sailed over the bar that's nice yeah oh man you know in a way she did you a favor here sister there I would hear like when I would get the same teachers as her she'd be like oh mrs whatever she's a total bitch and then I'd have the class I was like you know she was quite pleasant maybe you should try harder you feel so bad for Lisa in this moment but I do love sobbing only pushes Bart's grade higher yes

this at least sets up why lisa makes the choice at the end of the episode because if she wasn't having a horrible time it would make no sense for lisa to want to regress back to the second grade like she would want to get school over with sooner and be in the third grade i mean now when i think about how i got held back i do see it as like i lost a year of my life to extra school i never think i should have thought of it in those terms you had to go through 13 years of primary schooling yeah it sucked it sucked i yeah that was a fear my mom now it's fine i mean i didn't know any kids that happened to but it was like oh my god if you get held back you'd only live so many years of your

life so every year was more precious and you think wow an entire year doing the same thing that sounds like hell. Yeah, and you'll graduate and you'll lose all your friends. I already did the reset of friends because I was moving anyway. But I should say in my mom's defense, I'm blaming her. It sounds like I'm putting all the blame on her. I think it is because she was the bearer of bad news on this. And I think it was just as much my dad wanting me this

to happen killing the messenger i think i think i am but again hey i love my mom everything's fine speaking of moms marge is a very mom mom here with her fanny packs kids look what i got you for your third grade field trip matching fanny packs now your fannies match oh hey get away from me get out quit it ow let go stop you'll crush your juice boxes all right everybody choose a buddy for the field trip. I'll take Coyle. I'll take Ashley. Saying your buddy's name out loud is a security risk.

I'll just put you two together. This also sounds like parents criticizing the police state of modern schooling. Modern at the time, you know. Yeah. With all the safety concerns, I'm sure post Columbine as well. Yeah, you know know at first i thought it was a post 9-11 joke about security risk but you're right it's it's columbine this is about the extra restrictiveness in schools at the time but yeah the buddy system i mean south

park a little after this had their own buddy system episode where carmen and butters had to hold hands the entire time i never buddies We never did this in my schooling. There was never like field trip buddies or whatever. No way, me neither. It's like, no, you just do roll call when you get on and off the bus and all the kids have to be there. Yeah, it was as simple as that.

Though also we never did overnight trips ever. Not in any grade I had. Yeah, which also is like expensive. I think Tim Long said he was inspired by whatever Mark Charlie Brown movie that involved him going on the spelling bee. I had. Yeah. Which also is like expensive. I think Tim Long said he was inspired by whatever Mark Charlie Brown movie that involved him going on the spelling bee. I think that's the first theatrical one. I think so. He thought it was a TV movie, but that was in theaters. And he thought the idea of a kid getting to stay in a hotel room

by themselves was just like amazing to him as a kid. And that's what he was trying to capture here. I mean, for me as a kid too, when I saw that, saw that i was like wow that i didn't know you could do that as a kid by by yourself in a hotel room it looks so fancy and though also it made me fear spelling bees because charlie brown is so shattered by misspelling beagle he's so stupid yeah you blockhead it's a boy named charlie brown 1969 that's the name of the movie but also i love now your fannies match which to british people that sounds as crazy as this fortnight sounds to me you know i'll drop the subject after this but my mom knew my sister and i did not get along so she did she knew to keep us apart she would not have made you wear matching fanny packs no not at all i do like bart's sister lisa's brother it's

it's it is unintentional parental cuteness. Speaking of things that make it seem like Al Jean just rewatched a bunch of episodes, this whole Capitol City thing. And how many seconds of this song do we even hear? I think it's just like, oh, we own this song. Let's drop it in. And you don't get to put Tony Bennett's name in the credits, right? I mean, he's not really doing a voice.

This is just archive material though when they did archival footage of gregory peck from the kill a mockingbird he did get credited in the show you're right i mean i guess they're obligated to but it feels like a cheat like he didn't come back yeah it's reusing the lie on on steven universe they had a good meta joke about it where there was a character who in one episode appeared and was voiced by Nicki Minaj and then they played a clip of it again for the character to reference it and a character who has meta powers of knowing they're in a TV show said we don't have to pay her again for that do we well we do well fair play okay she earned it this is one of those cases like with uh with

Camp Crustier and those other sequel episodes where they only really touch upon the superficial stuff. I feel like they should have reexamined that Capital City montage and said, hey, let's have Bart and Lisa go to a few of these locations so they knew that we paid attention and cared. Because we just go to the Capitol building and then the woods. And that's it. No 4th Street and D. Yeah, they don't have any of the references to the buildings that make it cool or make it like

manhattan it does seem that they just had in the script they go to the capital and then al jean because he had just watched the season two episode for commentary he's like capital city right hey let's put in the song let's bring back the goofball and mary bailey well we'll do all the capital city things i lightly remember there are so many callbacks in this episode it's uh more than normal for this era of the show it feels like season 34 simpsons with a number of callbacks yeah uh i don't like that lisa's reading a kid's version of love in the time of cholera i don't like that punch buggies i do like this in spirit because we learned some kid traditions from the simpsons like

i i didn't know the batman jingle bells song until that episode yeah i wonder if this taught punch buggies to a bunch of kids the thing is when we were kids beetles are really not on the road they're very rare by the time i was like 16 or 17 the volkswagen beetle the new beetle was out but i was too old to play punch buggy so i never got to experience this you know in the late teens i still had some friends who's like hey punch bug is like come on we're adults now or nearly but they still were committed to the punch buggy we see even auto is playing though when he goes two for flinching that's great two for flinching that's his extra punishment but yeah this is back i guess when this episode aired, new buggies, aka, you know, Volkswagen Beetles were all the rage.

They had made their big comeback by 2002. That's why in Fight Club, when Tyler Durden and let's call him Jack are hanging out and they start trashing cars, the Volkswagen, the new Beetle is one of the first ones hits with a bat because it was the new Beetle. Right, right. That's such a cool moment. That's a great guy and i learned a lot of things from tyler everything says it's true yeah but seriously folks

they then arrive at capital city where basically the archie gang and archie's jalopy drive up and make fun of them yeah i like how it's an old-timey car i think i missed that until they returned i was like oh they're in an old-timey car at a certain point in the archie comics in the 90s when i read them they had to just give him a different old crappy car because even in the 90s it's like archie should not be riding in like a 1938 jalopy there there's old cars and then there's he still have a raccoon tail hanging off the antenna only with the aerial you know actually i think he did he should look i love archie i wish there would be a real archie show that riverdale show is about not being archie that's its whole thing i need an animated series where jughead is the real jughead my favorite character he needs to

be asexual and only want to eat burgers like that's what i want out of jughead but in uh but then we head into the capitol building we learn about i would guess this is not a real bird the pot-bellied sparrow but it's adorable i love this absurdist joke where it's it's a mural of the state bird eating the state pasta bowtie bowtie well i know my my bird loves pasta but most wild birds don't eat it oh that's i didn't even think of that because it looks like prepared pasta there but yes i've yes, when feeding your wonderful little birdie, he loves crunching down on uncooked pasta. He loves cooked pasta too, but he doesn't get that that often. Oh, okay. That's cute.

It's all the same to him. But in general, wild birds should not be eating grains, which is why they're so fat in this little illustration. Oh, that's why it's a pop belly. I get it now. Don't feed wild birds bread, everyone. You got to feed them dried peas or wet peas. You're going against the spirit of that Barry Poppins song, Bob. Oh, she's killing those birds. Well, seeing this city hall too, it reminded me, or the Capitol building, it reminds me how much I loved San Francisco city hall. I got married in

it even though. It was also making me think like, you know what? I've been to Sacramento several times, but never been to the actual Californiaifornia capitol building that's located there i i intend to visit sacramento one more time before i move well make sure you watch ladybird first oh crap i gotta do that right right well then it's about how sacramento is just a nothing city and everyone wants to leave it so after i watch it then i'll go back to sacramento and visit the capitol building to see where old gruesome Gavin lives. You'll be like, here? Really?

Actually, Gavin Newsom probably spends very little time in Sacramento. No, he's hanging out here. He could be around anywhere. He's right behind the door. Look for a greasy head glinting in the sun. This made me mad on first watching it back in 2002. I didn't like it because I knew it was wrong. I knew it wasn't his right coloring. They messed it up. Oh, the coloring made you mad. I thought the joke was really funny. I't like it because i really well because i knew it was wrong i knew it wasn't his right coloring they messed up the coloring made you mad i thought the joke was really funny i do

like look i like the joke but yes uh also tom poston was alive aljean said he was dead when they recorded this he died in 2007 and he was still acting so i guess he wasn't available or they didn't think they assumed he was dead i know it's very dark aljean's like oh he probably died before and so i don't think he said probably. I think he said, oh, he had passed away. That's right. Yeah. Which he was like on a King of the Hill a year after this.

So it's not like he was not doing it. He was playing the ventriloquist, right? Right, right, right. But yes, instead, which is really too bad. I wish this was Tom Poston, but this is a good little joke here. I just wish his colors were correct. Now, children, if you look up at the Capitol Dome, you'll see a mural of our state bird, the pot-bellied sparrow,

eating our state pasta, bow tie. Order, order, order. The chair recognizes the esteemed representative from Capital City. The Capital City goofball? That's right. To win, he spent $80 million from his own pocket. Mr. Speaker, the time has come to redesign our state flag. This Confederate symbol is an embarrassment, particularly as we are a northern state. This lively debate has given me an idea.

Tonight, each buddy team is going to design a new state flag. Homework on a field trip? What have you been huffing? Oof. That feels like an actual bad sitcom joke. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. That does.

What are you smoking? Yeah. I guess it's an upgrade to what are you smoking, but I don't like it. Not upgrade enough. Second pass needed aljean yeah do love the fact that their state flag is the confederate flag but they're a northern state so it makes no sense it is a great gag it is all about how obviously it had been talked about beforehand but definitely in the year 2000 people were talking about how south carolina in particular

still had a confederate flag flying over its Capitol building. And many other Southern states incorporated the Confederate flag into their state flag. And again, in most cases, it was not that they'd had these things up since the 1800s, which would also be horrible too. But the added awfulness of celebrating the slave states was that they in most cases were put up in the 60s as an fu to brown versus board of education and desegregation and it made northern kids like me think oh that's just the fun south flag doesn't mean anything else and i did until i was like a teenager and read more and learned more there were wrestlers who used to come out with a confederate

flag all the time who were then later banned from television because they're like, oh, you guys, they were mostly, some were just racist, but others were, guys are like, no, I'm a Southern wrestler and this is what you bring to the ring. But yeah, South Carolina especially got spotlight for this because they didn't even have like an altered inspired version of it. It just was the confederate flag above the capitol yeah this is like a confederate flag above you like seawater or something and like the sun is shining behind it it looks beautiful and uh south carolina they wouldn't take it down until 2015 and even that was after a lot of bad stuff happened mississippi didn't change their flag they were the last holdout of confederate flag state flags uh they didn't change it until 2020 and of course

that fixed racism forever and everything's fine and it finally again it's like i'm glad these things changed but the root cause of police brutality never gets addressed in these things or i was like well we'll change a flag we'll do that we'll take down confederate monuments i looked up the south park episode about the confederate flag and it's from the year 2000 so they hit it a lot earlier than the simpsons did well that tells you it was in the news in 2000 and south park did it when it was fresh and it took 18 months for it to get onto the simpsons uh they had more time to think about the issue instead of having a terrible message simpsons uh has a real right that south park ends with them deciding uh actually kids didn't see it as racist so we should keep it like yeah whatever could you believe they

got that wrong on south park in the year 2000 absolutely not now also the joke that the capital city goofball like paid off spend all that money is like uh vanity celeb campaigns completely outpaced by reality now i guess are they making fun of like jesse ventura or i guess i mean arnold is getting into politics in 2002 arnold's coming soon when this airs yeah he'll be elected in 2003 yes yeah yeah so this definitely i would guess yeah i think you're right for the time frame jesse ventura is the assumption i'd make there too yeah but obviously now 80 million actually that 80 million is a mistake on goofball's part as we learned that as donald trump showed you don't spend your own money you use it to fundraise more money for yourself and spend other people's yeah just have a go fund me saying yeah i'm gonna

build a wall and then you just pocket it all it doesn't matter that was his next upgrade from all the other rich guys like he didn't even have to spend his own money like it made him money but yes it's time for the kids to design a new flag which yeah when i first watched this i definitely thought south park did it which is a fun reverse of simpsons did it that haunted south park around the same time but it was like simpsons was trying so hard to do South Park type things like this is the kids redesign the flag yeah yeah and I guess they're also getting a little naughtier because we had a diarrhea joke earlier and they're about to make a flag with a butt farting on it right another bit

that does seem a little like Dana Gould to me but in general it's just a funny bit that Marge hearing that there's that Lisa's like bragging about a free USA Today and Marge was like, it's just a funny bit that Marge hearing that Lisa's bragging about a free USA Today, and Marge was like, no, it's not free. Don't you touch it. She's like, okay, I won't touch it. You better not. No, she says, well, make sure you don't. A really misguided mother.

It's the- Overprotective. We've seen that with our own parents after we moved to the big city, that you tell them about a thing you understand is like, well, no, this is just normal in the big city. But because they're scared of stuff in the big city, they're like, no, no, no. This has to have like a secret charge to it. Or if you take that USA Today, they're going to charge you like $50. Don't do it.

Or like you're going to get murdered if you use any mass trains. Like, oh, you know, I'm about to take the train to go somewhere. It's like, well, you be careful. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the maximum amount of care whenever I'm out in public so it doesn't matter i think this is over now but when i first told my mom about taking an uber or a lift she's like oh she could not believe it i think uh my mom wasn't worried she just thought it was a weird idea but then she learned that she could do

it and she got taken around with ubers and she likes it now that sounds like where where my mom lives they well also they take a lot of pride in driving themselves places well i'm making the drinky drinky motion for my parents because they love having a good time and they learn they don't have to drive home or find a ride home anymore is that awesome yeah yeah so yes lisa she badmouths bart behind his back which justifies his actions i guess it's a nice little buried joke that he's listening on the phone in the bathroom next to the toilet. Al Jean brings up like nobody actually bites their fist in anger like that. Lisa writes it as two fraternal love, which is just inviting Bart to do one is classic rearranging of words to comedic effect. And he says that when he's done with it, it's going to

be a Bart mangled banner, which is the name of an episode in season 15. Bart mangled banner. Well, man, they really are just they're calling a lot of shots here. banner which is the name of an episode in season 15 bart mangled banner well man that's they they really are just they're calling a lot of shots here it's like it's a good little pun i do like it and so we head over to the governor which this is her design i love this weird ass season two person among the season 14 people i think it's great like her weird walleye her strange face i do like seeing this old design they didn't really update it all of her uh wrinkles going into her neckline too yeah yeah and i'm wondering with the goofball you're talking about the coloring is wrong i'm thinking they wrote this in 2001 i wonder how easy it was to

find a picture of the goofball the season two dvds weren't out when they were making it and i wonder if you could just look up the goofball on the internet and find an image with the direct colors so it was either that or annavision or Acom messed up the color. It's possible they had the character model design pack, you know, that they could pull out of the archives. But as we've seen, a lot of those are in black and white. So maybe they lost the color guide for it. Yeah, that too.

That too. But yes, it is. They brought back Mary Bailey. At first, when I watched it the first time as a youth as a and by that i mean 20 years old i thought oh she's acting so crazy now she was supposed to be the grounded person now when i think about aging politicians who lose their minds this actually feels very real this is like ty and feinstein that was my first thought yeah and you know maggie roswell did the voice originally and she is not back until production season 14 starts so we're still in

production season 13 which is why maggie is not doing her voice here i kind of wish she was though i'll admit the sounds tress makes are really funny the fact that they repeat it three times i'm sad they didn't do it a fourth time they actually put in a new cry to end the scene. Yes, here in the clip, listen in how many times they just replay the same wailing sound here. So, I understand you children have some state flags for me.

Who would like to go first? We would, Governor Bailey. Team Simpson. I spearheaded this one. I'll just unfurl this. Da! Da. Da! Da! Da! Oh!

That was my worst unfurling ever! Lisa, how could you? The governor is crying. Da! Da! Oh! Ha-ha! You weren't on this field trip.

How did you get here? Biked? Boy, yeah, I really wish for that fourth cry they would have included the, I want it here one more time. And it was Tress basically doing Lucy, like Lucille Ball. She's great at Lucy.

Now here's my thing. I always thought this. The butt looks like the head of a penis. Yeah, that's true. It looks like a dick that's coming up. I mean, this. The butt looks like the head of a penis. Yeah, that's true. It looks like a dick that's coming up. I mean, you didn't think this? It looks like a dick. No, no. You're right. You're right. Do I need to show this to you again?

No, no. I mean, it does look like a yellow butt as well. The line should be all the way down. Instead, yes, it does look like a pee hole. It looks like the urethra. Yeah, I should have said that. Yes, the pee hole. I sound like a pee hole the urethra yeah that's i should have said yes the pee hole i i sound like a 10 year old you're right yeah actually i i see it more as the head of a yellow penis yes you're correct and just shooting cum everywhere

but it's learned hey there's no guests i can say this you're right yeah we only say come when the dill boys are guests on the show that's true To fraternal love does use a lot of the letters as learn to fart. Basically, Bart just had to, I think, erase a couple letters from it from fraternal love to learn to fart. Actually, at least one O is lost in learn to fart from fraternal love. I'm showing you this now. I mean, come on. Okay.

Yes. Yeah. That is entirely the head of a penis. Yeah. The line should be a little longer if it's going to be a farting butt. Yeah, you're right. Thank you. Thank you.

The way, again, she knows she's, the character knows she's a comedy character that has to react big. So she goes, and then turns it around so everyone can see it just to extra react to it. They said the staging was really hard to figure out because she's got to see it without no one else seeing it. And then she's got to show it to they said the staging was really uh hard to figure out because she's got to see it without no one else seeing it and then she's got to show it to everybody else in like one move i mean acting it out with my hands just now i was like wait how would you do that and then to think about drawing that that does seem really hard i also love that was my worst unfurling ever and i wish we saw more of her in this episode but uh yeah i remember

aljean saying on that commentary, bringing her back. And I'm wondering, what is it going to be? The Mary Bailey running against Burns again? But no, it's a one minute scene with her. And that she's crying. She's that broken. And it's not like she was even a character in that episode. I think there was one soundbite she even said in the whole thing.

Yeah, yeah. She is just a nemesis for Burns. They don't even do a debate or anything. But yeah, the next time she'll return, she is used sparingly since then, but she will appear in season 16's The Seven Beer Snitch, another Homer Goes to Prison episode of the show.

And so we go to commercial with another magic appearance of Nelson. Like he said, it's strong enough to go out on the joke with. Like that's an act closing joke. And so, yes, we then see Bart and Lisa. Bart nudges Lisa one last time, puts her over the edge. It's the drawing of her saying, I think it looks something like this. And just her thought balloon of, I am a loser, is really good.

It looks like her unflattering caricature from lisa the beauty queen oh that's why it hits even harder for lisa so they tumble off the road this is another where they really have to cheat a bit because for this to work the capital city building has to be the capital building in their state has to be at the top of a mountain right next to a giant wilderness yeah it's it's i mean we only see one building in Capital City, but it is very odd that the capital just ends there. There's no other city beyond it. It's just wilderness and dangerous hillbillies in a forest.

Which I don't think that's how it is in most capital cities in the United States. I mean, in Berkeley, I mean, most capital cities, most city halls, everything is built out from that if it's an old enough town that's how it's usually planned out they tumble down lisa is strangling bart underwater meanwhile they get lost because uh the teacher thinks that the buddy system is foolproof because well nobody's missing their buddy so gotta be fine drives off florid auto florid yes yeah she is sick of this so they have some little trees in the background as you see auto drive away but the kids are basically in a completely different space than i mean i know they're supposed to be downhill

but still these these locations are not related to one another yeah i mean i do like this episode a bit but this third act is weird and it has a weird complication that's immediately resolved. This, like we say on so many of these, it definitely feels like a heavy third act rewrite, for sure.

Yeah, it's like, I think, I want to say, they didn't say this in the commentary, but it feels like there was something more complicated going on, but there was nowhere

more exciting to take it than dangerous hillbillies in the woods i think their adventures with the hillbillies went longer yeah they mentioned they mentioned something about how lisa and bart wrote a song about how they tricked the hillbillies with by getting them drunk on their own moonshine so i guess that was part of it instead of finding out the hillbillies are actually urbane and they want to go into town to buy spy magazine right the uh the line is we tricked our mountain captors with their own illegal booze to the tune of hokey pokey that was it and i think in the writer's room that phrase we tricked our

our what captors our our mountain captors yeah we tricked our mountain captors with their own illegal booze that became a mantra in the writing room they just would repeat that over and over selman mentions he heard somebody just alone saying it to himself. So I guess this hokey pokey parody was pretty deep in the show until they did a rewrite. Though one thing I won't complain about in this third act is I like that they tried to add some heart to it. I think the show loses a lot of heart this deep into it, but they actually do care about Bart and Lisa's relationship as siblings. Yeah, I do like that. And this is is what people thought Algy would bring back to the show in season 13 I think it's missing season 13 is crazy it's uneven I really feel like it is coming back in 14 season 13 he had to get

all the sillies out have to be like guys fine we can have this screw you that Homer isn't going to be electrocuted we can have a woman being drugged and tricked into having sex with Abe. We can do all these things. Now that that's out of our system, how about we get a little more hard in here, guys? A very Schwarzwalder joke that Bart instantly circles the entire forest.

And though it's not Schwarzwalder-y to reference Blair Witch Project. Yeah, but I like Bart saying, I must be getting close. I recognize that girl. And it's Lisa. Also that he wants to do like the Blair Witch Kids. Yeah, but I like Bart saying, I must be getting close. I recognize that girl, and it's Lisa. Also that he wants to do like the Blair Witch Kids who famously get lost, and he wants to do like they did.

So we have a quick cutaway of the forest gets more and more cluttered. We have a joke that Bart seems like he's referencing the Bible, but it's actually a book called Lisa's Stupid, which leads Lisa a new level of violence from Lisa saying, you die now, and new level of violence from Lisa, saying, you die now,

and then garroting Bart with her pearls. They were previously strangling each other underwater when they rolled down the hill, so lots of brother-on-sister violence. There's also, Bart got strangled in the same way by Homer with a cable that they were attached to each other with. That also happened in season 11, late production. It was late 12. It was late 12. It was late 12, sorry.

Early Broadway, this is very important, early broadcast 13. Yes. Mike Scully's last before Storm of Vacation? Yeah, with George Meyer. Yeah, yeah. So, but yes, Bart and Lisa are lost. We then cut back to McConnell. She is being comforted instead of being fired for losing two children.

And the buddy system has failed. She doesn't know what to believe in anymore. Tress McNeil has to sob as two different characters in this episode. That's a lot. I kept expecting another Uter is dead joke in these jokes about lost school children. This feels more like, I think it was, maybe it was Wacking Day. Whatever episode it was where they tricked Bart and the bullies into the basement with the promise of free mountain bikes. It's an unrelated B-plot, which is why I forget which episode it was where they tricks bart and the bullies into the basement with the promise of free mountain bikes it's an unrelated b plot which is why i forget which episode it's in but

that's where they think they lost the children right right oh yeah that's whacking day yeah yeah oh that is whacking day yeah yeah okay well it's because he forgets that he left the other bullies in the skinner forgets that he left the bullies in the basement the whole time and he's like and then what if they're dead sir then we ride we ride this tractor to Mexico and freedom, Willie. Freedom. I'll turn you in at the first toll booth. I can't believe, yeah, that's so unrelated to Wacking Day, but it's in there. But instead this time, Skinner and Willie are working together and asking Willie to

put down the names in their parody of the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C. And Willie swigs his booze and is like, why is it always the children with the long names? But then we see him chiseling in the word Bart, which is four letters. I thought that was a very understated joke. Yeah, that is a long name to Willie, apparently. So this is when Skinner shares the bad news with the parents. Hello, Principal Skinner.

A parent who waves a right to sue says what? What? Got it. Hey, you can't fool us. We're from the learn to fart state. Bart and Lisa are lost in Capital City and presumed crying. My poor babies. I'm so sorry.

Lisa's a very special little girl and we'll spare no expense in finding her. What about Bart? We're looking. But in the meantime, the class clown pro tem will take his place. Cowabunga! Referencing the commentary again, this might have been before or after

they realized that Bart said cowabunga. Yeah, there's so many commentaries where Al Jean will say in the early years, you know, we wrote him to say cowabunga is like a joke because they only put that on t-shirts. And then they watch Bart gets an F and Bart unironically says cowabunga. And I think when we revisited season one in the Telltale Head, there's a bunch of ADR lines from Bart as he's skateboarding through town. And one of them is cowabunga yeah he said it twice for real but it's fun that millhouse is like oh i'm gonna be bart now cowabunga right which when bart even even when bart said it earnestly in those episodes he's only saying it because michelangelo from ninja turtles did it yeah it's what kids were

saying we all learned the word cowabunga. We say it all the time. I'm looking at all the uses of cowabunga on the show, and it's all making fun of the idea that Bart would say that. I mean, it was pretty corny for him to say it. Now, you know, for kids 10 years younger than us, or no, 15 years younger than us, their Michelangelo saying was booyakasha. They replaced cowabunga with that.

Like, is Cowabunga offensive? What's the etymology? I don't... I don't... Well, I don't know. It doesn't... Is it like Geronimo where it's actually deeply offensive? Ooh, man. I hope not.

I always thought it was like caveman talk, right? Like, Oonga... Ooh, wait. Oonga Bunga's not good. Hmm. Boy, I'm in a tough zone here. We're going to get our top linguist to look into this. I like that in all the jokes they have here, there actually is a moment for Bart and Elise

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Oh. Bart, you're my big brother. You should act like it more often. You know, protect me from the bad things in the world. Well, as far as nerdy little sisters go, you're the coolest. Thanks, Bart. And I'm sorry I sabotaged your flag. I'm sorry I got us lost out here.

Oh, and I'm sorry I sawed the heads off your Malibu Stacy dolls. Okay, you go. I don't think I've done anything else. Okay, I'll go again. Remember when your bike was mangled by gypsies? Yes. Yeah, funny story. One day I was really bored, and Dad left

a steamroller idling in the driveway. That sounds like something that would have happened in season 11 of the show. A discarded pitch or something, maybe? Yeah, and of course Homer rents a steamroller. That'll fill an act. Now, I looked up Cowabunga. The source is unknown, but it was popularized by a character called Chief Thunderthud on Howdy Doody.

It's something he would say. So I guess it was popularized by making fun of Native American languages. But then the kids who grew up watching Howdy Doody became surfers, and they used that as surfing lingo. And then Michelangelo took it, and then so on and so on so i see yeah all right so i i guess i should have figured like all american things it has some root in uh horrible racism yeah mocking other cultures but i thank those first surfers for helping us transit it like make it not have that anymore make us forget about it but yeah it's uh well speaking of canceled bart's canceled for using that term for money people yeah yeah but i like that lisa also she only has one thing to apologize for she's run out of like i have nothing else to say

and i like nancy's delivery of uh okay that now you go now you go nancy does a really good job in this episode i don't compliment her performance enough as part but she actually has a lot to do with part here we have a quick cut to marge and homer looking for them marge identifies the end of bart's shoelaces correctly by the way it's called an aglet aglet yeah and i feel like i never remember that i it's because it's such a weird word i'm going to try to remember aglet how many shoes do you have that actually have laces though i have several shoes that are always tied and i still just shove my feet into them. Okay. I wasn't sure.

Henry loves his slip-ons. I do. I love my slip-ons. He's a comfortable man. I love my Vans, my slip-ons though, of course. With Vans, I do for foot comfort, buy inserts that give me extra support, but that way I can have the best of both worlds. My slip-ons, actually, we're about to go see a movie.

I'm going to put on my pride slip-ons. Oh, okay. I okay i have special pride van my shoes are full of hate i'm sorry you have two hateful of shoes but meaning to talk to you about that but i'm sorry speaking of hateful things a bunch of mountain folk show up and no cletus in this group because these are capital city hillbillies i feel like cletus should show up if you can't create an original group of hillbillies we already have our clan you know like he could just be like traveling with them or something cletus and his characters have been set up so much i mean perhaps they will not function as threats if you see cletus at this point because like cletus is too familiar though i'd totally accept cletus pointing a shotgun at the kids i'd be like yeah cletus would do that sure this little sketch is such a pointless diversion, but I just like how crazy it is.

It does feel like they're trying to emulate Schwarzwalder, but I do like some of these jokes. The last bit of the old man talking to his wife, I feel like Dana Gould pitched this. I feel him pitching it. Say your prayers. Oh, Lord, please strike these mountain folk dead Bart! Listen, we're really sorry We got lost on a field trip from Springfield Elementary

Lost on a field trip? Heck, why'd you say so? That's how Grandpappy wound up in these parts They was taking us to Capital City To see the Nutcracker And I wandered away from the group, married a bear, and I started up a family. I told you I ain't a bear!

Roar, roar, roar! No one understands you, she-bear! Thanks for driving us back to town. No problem. We were going there anyway to pick up the new Spy Magazine. I'm sorry. They don't publish that anymore. The world I grew up in is gone. Whatever Hank Azaria is doing is so funny.

I like how his voice is rising with every new description. It's like, we were doing this, and then this happened, and then I married a bear. That was a bit that felt very Dane-y-wilt to rawr no one understands you she bear and spy magazine is treasured by writers of this age and era as like a very good satire magazine back when you could actually publish something like that with lots of funny stuff in it like i think bill oakley and josh weinstein submitted essays to it that were published like lots of writers were in love with this magazine though even it ended in 1998 yeah even that couldn't last that long but yeah in my magazine buying days i would see it and think like this is for

adults i can't read this too uh grown up for me yeah tim long wrote for two i my only teen years exposure to spy magazine was a friend had it because al jean talks about it a little on the commentary because they did it on in national lampoon as well spy magazine would have a sex issue every now and then which would have actual naked ladies in it my friend prized this because he's like really because somebody he was able to confiscate from a place that didn't know that this had nudity in it but it was a spy magazine about how i believe now that the satire was that it's like a report on how famous people famous women are now doing more nude scenes these days but then it's just a collection of like photographs like here's cindy crawford naked for this ad campaign or whatever wow yeah

my friend enjoyed it for the boobage, not for any commentary. Salacious. I'm going to tell you this, Henry spy magazine was co-founded by Graydon Carter, who we now know for his bad food restaurants and his Oscar parties that are no longer hot. Oh, so that's,

they bring up Trump on this. Yes. Yes. Uh, Trump. That's the only reason I know about Graydon Carter is because of a very funny Trump tweet about this magazine co-founder who is also behind Vanity Fair. That's right.

Okay. That was the entire other side thing I looked up with Spy. Also because on this 2010-ish commentary, when Donald Trump is just a silly man on television, they are talking about how they love that Spy magazine pissed off donald trump by calling him a short-fingered vulgarian so i feel like if we can blame anybody for shorthand's orange man comedy yeah it's because spy popularized it first and everybody else is copying i find that deeply embarrassing but i guess it was 25 years ago maybe so apparently it was that in 1980 in the late 80s there was some back and forth with

them trying to interview him. And then he turned it down. And there was a series of very funny letters back and forth from his management and them. And they definitely just read like Trump tweets now. But I can see why it was funny back in 89. So it started a long feud with them to the point where so this was the craziest bit I found out so 2015 early 2015 when the idea of trump being a politician was still funny is that when funny or die they were

writing that movie for johnny depp yes yeah so this is also when that horrific shooting at charlie hebdo happened oh okay so this is what trump tweeted right after it happened. Charlie Hebdo reminds me of that satirical rag magazine spy that was very dishonest and nasty and went bankrupt. Charlie was also broke. If the morons who killed all those people at Charlie Hebdo would have just waited, the magazine would have folded. No money, no success. So to take a terrorist mass murder and turn it into a story of like, this reminds me of how a spy was mean to me and failed.

You know, those artists would have been murdered financially. They should have just waited. Well, they did have French health care systems and unemployment, though. Oh, that is true. No, Donald Trump said, this is the tweet from him that everyone makes fun of. Sissy Graydon Carter of failing Vanity fair magazine and owner of bad food restaurants has a problem his vf oscar party is no longer hot and this is a this is a tweet that chapo trap house brings up a lot because the the phrase bad food restaurants really it's just no one else's brain

works like this talking about this is making me now feel nostalgic for when we can laugh at these things with the idea of donald trump will never be for when we can laugh at these things with the idea of Donald Trump will never be president. So let's laugh at these things. But now when I read that article explaining his comparing the murders of Charlie Hebdo to Spy Magazine, it was a 2015. Actually, no, it was a 2019 article bringing it back up again. But I was just like, God, this is why this guy ended up as president. Everybody talked about every tweet he did like uh it's it's nuts but he still won't come back to twitter i hope he holds out on me too me too elon musk thinks he can force him back on there but

yeah so after the spy magazine thing which totally sidesteps the hokey pokey thing of them explaining how they escaped their mountain captors though i do love that when bart is told to say his prayers he prays that god kills them it is a good joke it is just like such a diversion because they're like say your prayers and then like a minute later oh we're going there too come on and then they're right there at the end for the happy reunion here which uh yes in our final clip the status quo is maintained oh Oh, my special little guys. You're okay. You're okay. And Maggie, you no longer have to live with the burden of replacing Bart and Lisa.

Well, if this episode has taught us anything, it's that nothing works better than the status quo. Bart, you're promoted back to the fourth grade. Yay! And Lisa, you have a choice. You may continue to be challenged in third grade or return to second grade and be merely a big fish in a small pond. Big fish! Big fish! Aw! The status quo.

The status quo? My carumba! That's just sad it's a real deflating ending there just be like that joke sucks it starts with let the crap begin or whatever or what is it called and let there be crap and then like well that's just sad

yeah it feels like the original idea was to be instead of having Bart and Lisa just apologize they have to work together to outwit the mountain folk and that's how they you know end up on the same, on good terms. But it feels like they needed something a little faster than that. And I prefer the sweetness of just a little testimonial between them. Also, I think this is the first time Marge always calls Bart my special little guy.

But here she's using it to cover both of them. Like my special little guys. Yeah, I totally identified that it's like lisa is being uh lifted to the same position as barks or lowered perhaps yeah depending on now you look at i also like how maggie tosses away that skateboard and saxophone it's good fully something is breaking and yes skitter gets so meta that he even calls it an episode like if this episode has taught us anything obviously it can work in real life of saying this episode it works there too but lisa should want it's it's depressing to me that lisa

wants to go back to being a big fish she should it's almost to take that lisa's beliefs where lisa thought she wanted to be challenged in the third grade but instead she's like you know what no i want to go back to the second grade like a challenge i can do that that's the challenge she wants which hey i get that is consistent for lisa and one that is a gifted kid totally can identify with we want to succeed at things and be told we're smart to not be challenged and told we're not so that's scary and it makes us feel bad uh just as bad as millhouse feels uh when nobody laughs at his icarumba Even the mountain folk who have no knowledge of what this Icarumba thing even means, they are just like, that sucks. Like, they're just shaking their heads at him.

I really feel like, where was the article Industrial Compacts in 2002? Because now we're writing articles today about, you know, the Simpsons are bringing back old characters and old ideas and they're referencing all this stuff. We weren't there yet because I feel like this would be written about today because it brings back, there's at least five big callbacks to old ideas or characters or scenes. Nobody who memorized season two was getting to write at those websites. That's, you're told, yeah, that's it. They were all in college like me. Yeah.

You were hoping to someday work on a website and have that be a real job. Like one day I'll write for Slate. These people at Slate don't know anything about Simpsons, but someday. And then I did that for about a short time. Not for Slate. But now every website has to have at least once a month Simpsons article about the future of Simpsons or this episode of Simpsons finally answered this question or whatever.

Yeah, I mean, there was no social media when this aired, so there was no need to feed that beast. The Facebook hadn't started just yet. Yeah. And even if they had, how would we have screen capped anything from this episode to mention it? Yeah. I guess get your digital camera out, take a picture, hook it up to your tower desktop

PC. Clear out some files on your desktop because it's going to take up a lot of space, that photo of your TV. You know, this was a very tame episode, but in that way way it was not offensive to me i think i did like this one i like the callbacks and like i said earlier it does feel like gene is remembering oh this is what made the show good i feel like in season 13 he was really getting his sea legs is that we want to call it yeah and i feel like he is now getting into understanding what the Simpsons is as season 13 production ends. Yes.

As they're about to start production 14. I think Gene has a better idea of what he wants it to be, what he wants the status quo to be, as they say in this episode. And yeah, I mean, there's going to be trip ups after this, but this does feel like them finding more of the emotional core and that they want to deal with more earnestly like this isn't a big treacle cutter like it i and yeah bob i agree this is this is better than i uh i i did pick that let there be crap because i at first felt very disappointed it really just is that open in reality shows thing is just so lame to me well i did prep for a large marge and you can save your let there be crap for that episode. Yeah.

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