Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Brake My Wife, Please With Quorators

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

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This podcast is brought to you by patreon.com slash talking simpsons head there to check out exclusive podcasts like talking futurama talk king of the hill the what a cartoon movie podcast and tons more. I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, hoy, everybody, and welcome to Talking Simpsons, the podcast for jerks and lesbians. I'm one of your hosts, the editor and chimp, Bob Mackie, and this is our chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who is here with me today, as always? It's Henry Gilbert, and I can't choose between ambling or sauntering. And who are our special guests on the line? Hey, I'm Jeremy Kapkowitz, and the one who's wrong pays.

I'm Alex Patak, and there's a mouse in my purse. And this week's episode is Break My Wife, Please. Bug machine? Even I think this is crazy this week's episode originally aired on may 11 2003 and as always henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history oh my god oh boy bobby e3 2003 happens in los angeles daddy daycare can't topple X-Men 2 at the box office. And Dawson's Creek airs its final episode. Henry and I were in the games industry,

so we're sorry for boring you with this, Jeremy and Alex, but E3 was happening in May back then? Whoa. It was mid-May back in the early aughts. It moved to June later on. I don't know why, but at this one, the biggest games that made a splash were well among them half-life 2 call of duty the original call of duty and the

teaser trailer reveal of metal gear solid 3 which you remember is all the guys fighting over who gets to sit in the chair for the star well i'm glad that e3 found its spot and and is still going strong to this day i was about to say e3 2003 has got to be one of the best ones you could possibly go to of all time though not if you're a nintendo fan because i think that was the pac-man versus year the the the tragic pac-man versus year i just saw some tweets about how nintendo showing at e3 2003 was the pac-man versus thing henry like you said and also the debut of reggie fils-aimé a longtime friend slash enemy to nintendo fans right that's where he said he would kick ass and take names and uh but this this is our gamer start to the

episode here what's the pac-man thing what makes it a tragedy i don't i don't know about this it was perfectly fine the pac-man versus thing which is basically a way to play a elaborate pac-man game with your gamecube and gameboy advances but the way the industry was we wanted blood we wanted gore we wanted mature games because games have grown up and people scoffed at this new pac-man thing which was very fun i I played it with friends. Some of the fewest owners of that peripheral, we were part of them. Very much the Onimusha Blade Warriors of the Pac-Man franchise. When you said tragedy, I was nervous that someone had died playing Pac-Man at E3 or something.

I was like, what happened? No, no. It was just bad if you're a nintendo fanboy it was bad because it made it made them look too kiddy against all of these grown-up games like half-life 2 and call of duty so you guys messed up even mentioning games near jeremy because now you've just activated him into a matrix of his own design yeah with sorts of questions like what happened at that i don't know about that yeah set him up jay dog you got him where you want him and yes daddy daddy daycare a surprise franchise i had kind of forgotten about that it's so the

first one stars eddie murphy with steve zahn and jeff garland then there's daddy day camp which uh replaced eddie murphy with the disgraced uh kuba gooding jr and then i forgot there is a granddaddy daycare direct-to-video thing from 2019 i saw one of those in theaters i want to say the 2007 one but i'm sure now. I remember being mad about it at the time. At which entry did the franchise start to decline, Jeremy? Well, I was 14 when that one came out, and I remember at that time being like, I'm too old for this shit.

So it must have been around then. I'm over daddies. Daddies are over a party. I went to daddy daycare. When it was daycare, it was was cool but now that it's a camp i'm honestly surprised henry that there wasn't some eight episode peacock series from i don't know 2022 right now i well we were just seeing the the day we're recording this was i had noticed it was the amazon prime did their up fronts of announcing a ton of new shows and everything is a tie-in to every as

marge loves to say everything is something but nothing's original it's just like they like one of the things they just announced was nick cage is going to play spider-man noir in a live action movie and or tv series and then also there's going to be a prequel series for legally blonde that they're doing as well wait what is that? Is it just she's in high school? She's not a lawyer. She doesn't care about the law yet? You'll never believe this movie where a woman isn't a lawyer.

So yeah, I guess they're making the Legally Blonde prequel, but they're also seemingly making that Tracy Flick election sequel. Oh, i forgot about that one that's right yeah but one thing that's not come back ever is dawson's creek it's uh they how did this how did this series end a mass shooting you know they actually took a big swing with the ending because and i say this is somebody who watched all of dawson's creek when it was new

that the big swing with the ending was they got back the series creator, Kevin Williamson, who had quit the show for like two years, but come back to write the ending. And because he admitted, oh yeah, I haven't watched the last two years of the show. So they skip forward five years into 2008. So this 2003 finale of Dawson's Creek is set in 2008. And then he has it be a reunion of all the characters playing like adult versions of themselves.

There's a controversial death in the show. I don't know if I want to spoil it for people. It's Barack Obama. They predicted it, but they got it half wrong. Patriots were activated on Barack Obama. It does not please all fans, the finale but i i thought it was all right not joey not joey i'm just learning about the character of joey i'm assuming she died uh okay skip ahead listeners if you plan on ever watching that

no it uh michelle williams's character dies she gets gets a rare form of cancer and dies, and her death brings together... Joey ends up with Pacey instead of Dawson. Dawson is alone. And then the gay guy, Jack, he adopts Michelle Williams' daughter. A lot of fans did not like... Most fans were fine that Dawson didn't get the girl in the end, but they were mad Michelle Williams got killed off.

So if they ever did a reunion, she wouldn't be on the show. Oh. Well, it's time anyway. Bring it back. Dawson's Lake. Let's see what happens. That's money on the table. Yeah, why not?

What does Vanderbeek up to? I know he had a great return to form in that Don't Trust the B Show, but now that was probably over a decade ago. That was a while ago. I don't know what he's been up to actually yeah i i the last time i paid attention to dawson was on don't trust the b i would hope he is not appearing in uh you know god is not dead three or whatever and he's he's stayed the course as a good actor. Don't trust the bee. Don't trust the beak. Where is this guy? Leave that in. That's all. That's everything that happened the day this episode aired.

And joining us today are Jeremy Kaplowitz and Alex Patak from the Quarriors podcast. Welcome to the show, guys. Thanks for having us. Yes. Thank you for having us. You guys had us on your podcast and it was quite an experience to uh help you answer a wide range of questions that you find on on quora i'm hoping today we can address what's been going on with the number of births my teenage daughter is

having i think it was the one podcast we were asked to guest on where we didn't talk about the simpsons movie and for for that, we thank you. Hey, wow. That's really impressive. It's usually we have reviewed the Simpsons. We enjoyed it every time, but we haven't reviewed the Simpsons movie several times now. Yes. Not even on our own podcast yet.

Does it get better with time? Like a fine wine? It's more like a mediocre milk over time it turns into a bad cheese are you gonna do it on this show or are you saving it for a special day we have plans uh for for a month of simpsons movie content yeah because it would either be a 16 hour podcast or a month of uh it would be all our podcasts this month but uh on our current trajectory i would guess that that's a 2028 podcast wow yeah that's bold we're hoping quora is still exists by 2025 i know i'm so scared of that somebody people keep sending me links to this quora competitor this morning for us for people who work in finance or something and i'm like like, I don't like that. It's all finance questions.

It's you need a corporate email to be a member, but it's still people just being like, is it okay to be racist to Indian people? And then that's like the whole post. And like, that's the whole thing. So it is Quora. It's just like, it's a country club Quora. Like you have to pay to get in,

but that's a premier part of the membership. I don't know if that's eating away at the fan base it's called blind that's the name of it i mean i think your name can outlive the platform because we are all on podcasts and i don't think anyone has an ipod anymore that's a great point i didn't even realize that that's what that comes from i truly did not know until just now that it is ipodcast yeah jeremy's always saying they should call them phone casts yeah i see why isn't it android cast didn't have the heart to tell him no yeah i guess uh well the it's still the apple podcast app for now but they don't uh they they lucked into that branding apple did yeah one cheap win they're due for a comeuppance did the simpsons uh inform how you guys either give advice or write comedy yeah i like i i i like the simpsons growing up i was more of a futurama guy i think though futurama was more

more my speed i don't know if it's just an age thing i had a weird relationship with the simpsons where when i was very young, my parents were like, they were into controlling the media I was consuming. So they were like, you can't watch The Simpsons. It's too rude. We know it's America's favorite TV show, but I'm afraid if you watch it, you're going to turn into Bart and swim into a clamshell at the aquarium. So we can't allow it. And then I got to like middle school age and they

just completely gave up and we became like a family guy house which i think for a child has a lot more of an appeal to it because it's really really violent and like edgelordy uh which i think is like that's the age for that so i kind of like missed my simpsons years and i've been chasing after them my entire life. Wow. Alex, I'm a, I was a South park family. My dad and I would watch South park together. So we were on opposite ends of the cartoon wars of the 2000s. Wow.

That explains why you're so rude. We usually find that you're either allowed to watch it or you're not allowed. And the reason most kids weren't allowed, they were, the parents were actively preventing sass back because they're like, Bart's sarcastic and rude. We don't want you to be like Bart. And that was the main concern.

In their defense, he is very rude. Yeah, I would be scared that Alex is going to be like him. Family Guy is so much more rude than me. I can't believe that they preferred that to The Simpsons. I think they just gave up at a certain point. Like, I think they were just more busy at work and were like, whatever, here's the most violent thing I've ever seen.

Yeah, Family Guy's like cruel. It's not just rude, it's like mean. I started saying like all this rude stuff I shouldn't be, I kept calling my mother woman for years. Really? Did you actually? Yeah, I was like, Stewie does it. I'm going to be cool like Stewie.

I have a few years on him, but I think that he gets a lot of respect. Alex was British for a year when he was 13. I joined Her Majesty's service. Yeah, I guess if you grow up with two working parents before the V-chip, they realize the genie's out of the bottle. We either hide the television while we're gone or you just are free learn what we won't want to teach you or what the schools won't teach you you need that to raise the kids it's very important i i feel like now it's just parents and children only watch bluey all of the time that's that's the impression i get it's

a lot a lot of bluey well you gotta admit blue the joke density In bluey is insane I find it so weird that people Keep trying to like get people to watch Bluey if you don't have kids like I'm Like if you have kids it sounds like a wonderful Thing but if you don't have kids you're just like dude it's Still really good I'm like I don't Have the time I haven't been adults

You should be arrested I feel that it probably Is, you know, very clever, but also it's the parent thing where you're forced to watch so much slop that if something, like, rises above the level of mediocrity that most kids' TV rests at, you're into it. You become a super fan. Absolutely.

For our generation, it was like a real SpongeBob thing, which I think is probably... It's for an older audience than bluey so i guess there's probably more merit to that but i remember a lot of my teachers in middle school like saying to the class like hey they don't want me to say this but that spongebob show it's hilarious i've seen a lot of people compare bluey to arthur which is again like arthur great show i'm not gonna like sit sit down and watch Arthur like it's a Sunday night HBO show. Well, Henry and I grew up with the Arthur books, and when the cartoon came around, we were in our teens.

I appreciate, as a child, I liked the Arthur books because it raised awareness on glasses wearing. Not everyone can see objects far away. were you mad when the show came out were you like they ruined arthur you know if it i believe he was cast as uh with a white actor so i was totally fine with it instead of i kid i kid and i was like oh i read the manga it's way more violent so they cut all the sex stuff the hell but uh yes this this episode we we picked you guys for i i thought would be good because this does feel like a one of several questions on you'd see on quora but one of them would be like

i ran over my husband does this mean i hate him like or what where to go from there yeah i mean not to get away from quora but it is a real am i the asshole kind of uh reddit thread it is and you're you're not left knowing one way or the other and that's the hallmark of good television yeah and lisa gives that whole monologue about how everyone sucks here so i thought that was very reddity and this episode uh fulfills the predicted joke in you'll Never Stop the Simpsons, where they pitch an episode as Mo gets a cell phone and and butthead have cell phone what if ren and stimpy have cell phone what if clone high have cell phone we're doing it all because it uh it's a different world these characters now exist and i'm not against it but it is the obvious thing to do like futurama even did it when they came back to comedy central what if fry gets cell phone cell phones have like ruined movies i feel like i keep seeing movies that

are like set in the the 90s and early 2000s because I feel like writers are just too scared to think of how a cell phone ruins their story. Yeah, it pokes a lot of plot holes. It does. I think that's why all the great directors of the 90s or several of them have been making period movies the last few years.

It's why Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Holdovers and Licorice Pizza. They're all set in the 70s because they're like, well, I remember being a regular person then and I don't have to write around a cell phone. That's what I felt watching Driveway Dolls where I was like, oh, yeah, if they had a they clearly felt like if they just had a phone, it would end the movie. So they have to set it in like 1994 or whatever. One of the hallmarks of a good director now is they just artfully incorporate

a texting scene in a way that doesn't infuriate the entire audience yeah i know it's necessary but whenever they have to start putting the actual text bubbles superimposed on the scene i feel like you've lost something so as a society maybe we've lost something but that's what it's like i'm moving and i'm texting i see the bubble it's next to your head alex this this episode was written by tim long and uh it's directed by pete michaels who this is his last one on the simpsons he would leave at first i thought he left for family guy directly but actually in between he worked on the completely forgotten comedy central original animated series kid notorious about robert evans friends i've seen every episode of kid notorious and i remember none

of it except the cat was always farting is that what's going on in that one henry it sounds good that's from real life i only remember the episode where and this is not a joke that jacques charoc the then head of france kept hitting on robert evans and wanted to have sex with him and it was very strange why does it look like a fucking yahoo avatar like it looks so bad it's it's basically robert evans in the 70s look drawn to look like he's in his 40s i guess and it's about his modern uh an exaggeration of his modern life it was just you know writers loved like bob odenkirk did an entire sketch on mr show about robert evans's audiobook and how funny they thought it so all these comedy guys thought his grandiose way of speaking was so funny

and then it just followed all the way to like well then let's make him play himself in a parody of Hollywood as a cartoon on Comedy Central. Like this is Comedy Central had too much money from South Park success. That's what I really think. And Slash is in it. Slash plays himself in the show as his friend. Wow. That's so fucking weird. I forgot about that part.

Youth outreach. Slash. They got Slash. Andy west is in it he plays donald rumsfeld for some reason oh wow i don't know this episode they were inspired by just wouldn't homer be a jerk like an la jerk with a cell phone but it turns into the regular like homer does wrong by marge he needs to apologize thing like we're doing this not too long after a recent episode i watched called the telltale pants and it feels so similar you feel the same bob i was gonna say this this reminds me of an episode we just covered in which

the normal simpsons formula of this era is that homer does something awful marge is too mean to him when she's telling him how much her feelings were hurt. So Marge then has to apologize by, say, hiring Weird Al to write a song. This is that plot up to the point where Marge apologizes. This time, Homer actually apologizes, hires a different musician. Of course, I'm talking about Three Gays of the Condo. Yes, you're right. This is the inverse of Three Gays of the Condo. This is a weirdly paced one, though. I did laugh at stuff in this. I also should say i found the original script for it the full table draft dated august 22nd 2002 it's the only season 14 when i found and the episode is all is pretty similar i'll note the big changes but the really it's just the ending is definitely expanded for the happened and then kept happening and then happened some more oh it's over yes well parties in real life they can uh they can feel as

wild as your craziest gorilla chase this one it's some boomer musician who i barely know about uh makes an appearance and uh it's fairly pleasant i guess he seems so generic like of that era singer songwriter i was like 50 50 like this guy's made up i don't know i don't think yeah i wasn't sure i had to look it up well from the opening here i'll say this is where there's a better joke in the script so it's not a class field trip that brings them to the aquarium it's actually millhouse's birthday but then you find out that millhouse actually wanted to go to the antique store but got outvoted by everybody else to go to the aquarium instead that is very funny i like that also millhouse says you know it's it's my birthday shouldn't be what i pick and

then bart says it's also pat marita's birthday and you don't hear him complaining so that's how you know that millhouse's birthday had it been canonical this episode would be june 28th which was also the late pat marita's birthday you know as simpson scholars we can tell you the beginning of this episode is very similar to the short number 24 the aquarium i was gonna say it feels like a different episode this beginning bit where it's just a bunch of jokes about the aquarium even with bart's like nudity in the tank though he's not fully nude like he is in that episode. Yeah, in the Tracy Ullman short, he gets in trouble at the aquarium

and he won't leave the shark tank because his father will beat him. So he'd rather stay with the shark. Wow, and in this one, he is beaten up by the fish. But you can't top that. That's comedy. It's amazing they waited that long 14 seasons to to bring that back when they start the trip it does feel like i don't want to give them too much credit but it does feel

like how marge is taking care of skinner and all that it does feel like it would fit with the theme of marge puts everybody before her and here she's doing it again or at the very start taking care of skinner removing his kick me sign brushing his hair i did have to look up that it just sounded like i did not hear the word nurse shark i actually had to pull up the subtitles yeah i i rewinded i was confused as to what he was saying what did you hear what did you think you heard i thought it was nerf like n-e-r-f shark i think that's what i first heard i heard nurse but i didn't know what it meant i thought i thought maybe he said nerd so i rewinded and i was like no he didn't i i was so confused like i guess my stepdad was in the tropical fish for a while so i i was

fully aware of nurse sharks oh yeah no it it went over me now obviously i get once i could see it in the subtitles like oh a nurse shark it's a homophobic bullying thing he says he wants to be a nurse and that's why they run into beat oh is that all right sure yeah it's their everyday heroes all the bullies are enforcing the heteronormativity on him by beating him up there's a few cheap shots in this episode that really took me back to 2002. Then, as in our first clip here, they take a tour, and the tour guide is not up for tomfoolery. Well, it looks

like Mr. Walrus and his family are enjoying their Sunday brunch. Shut up. What am I, some sort of joke to you people? Now, over here is our newest exhibit, The Wonders of the Gulf Coast. Shut up. It's not that exciting. The Gulf is home to a breathtaking array of sea life.

But oil spills are threatening its delicate ecosystem. Hey, without oil, you wouldn't have your fancy four-wheel drives. You want to go back to two-wheel drive well do you i didn't mean to steal focus i love that rich texan can apologize that his character is so big in this scene that it kind of resets it and he's like oh i'm sorry i ruined your jokes tour guy the second he starts talking up i'm like why is the oil tycoon here yeah i guess we're seven years before the deep water horizon spill yeah it's it's right before the bp oil or seven years but why wasn't it used uh in predict simpsons predicted it articles with the with regarding the bp oil spill now we're just fueling the fire unfortunately

i think it's because they've there's been so many oil spills it would be they've predicted it 10 to 12 times since this episode came out yeah no the gulf coast drilling has had already caused a number of spills before this and they're referencing that same with like donald trump already had mold running for president way before they did a joke about him being president i think there's still time to do the simpsons predicted a thing let's go back write the article now why not we discovered it from the vault i bet if we offered it to collider they give us five dollars for updating their article for its weekly update to move back to

the seo ranks yeah as of this recording, the Simpsons predicted a discourse has ended. Now we're on the Harry Shearer is very old discourse, which will probably last only a few days. So I rewatched Spinal Tap recently and I was shocked to find out that he is 80 years old. I didn't even know there was discourse about it. People are just discovering it. We're fully aware of the fact that he turned 80 in December

and some of his character voices don't sound quite the same but uh apparently people are finding out for the first time and uh they're shocked wow i was shocked i didn't even know on on social media a clip from this most recent season of mr burns which me and bob had seen when it was new a few months ago like everybody's going now finally wow he wow, he sounds like this now. Like Mr. Burns sounds like this now. It's like,

yep, that's what Mr. Burns sounds like. It just, it's how it is. It's kind of organic. He just sounds like an actual 80 year old man. It's very real.

We're hoping he makes it to Burns's real age of 104 to see if he'll just keep doing it. It'll improve in 10 years. Burns had so much energy in season two. Like, and Bart gets hit by a car. There's some screaming he does in that that I feel like if Harry Shearer were to try that today, he would die. It would be a physical danger to him.

Not to go on too long about this, but we're aware how old he is. And just a few days before this discourse started, I saw somebody, maybe Michael McKeon, someone like that, they retweeted a picture of a child Harry Shearer at a table read for the Jack Benny program. He was a child actor on the Jack Benny TV show.

Damn. Yeah. Did he get it? He met Mel Blanc in person. When Mel Blanc had been doing Bugs Bunny's voice for like 20 years at that point. That's how old uh harry sure is the simpsons will be right back

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he could have been a recurring dude he He should have been at that party. Yeah, bring him back. Missed opportunity there. Have him say a little joke about Marge and everyone laughs, and then he gets mad again. Easy. The Simpsons should hire us. Yes, we've been saying that for years now.

They cut a joke with Captain McAllister being lost in his boat at the aquarium. But as everybody is taking a tour, we see that the other animals have been put in a storage facility. Then Lisa stumbles upon this fact, but the Simpsons are repeating themselves with this joke. I feel like they forgot that they did this joke in Bart's Comet that penguins can actually fly. Oh, okay. Is that when all the animals are acting strange because of the approaching comet? Yeah. When the comet is approaching, then the penguins look around and realize they're stranded.

So they decide now it's time to fly. It's an emergency. Let's fly like we always could as penguins. Which one was better, this one or the other one? Hard to say. I think the first one because there there is an ending to the scene here they just stop flying and continue milling about when lisa sees them they just act like nothing happens and though these penguins are

drawn with the cute rounded simpson eyes instead of the dot eyes that they normally draw penguins with so it's uh they are cuter in this one good they're evolving then they stumble upon a clam i do like skinner saying this could be a wonderful journal entry that's i think an underrated skinner line he's nice and weird here in this one and then bart is revealed to be inside of the clam and showing off his beautiful buttocks as skinner feels uh he's i nobody calls him gay in that line at least part i i'm still in shock that in the next episode bart has the line that's so gay and he just says it like so i i'm surprised they don't have that kind of line here put him through the scuba suit just yelling through the tank uh it's very funny that i mean obviously

the simpsons are yellow so the joke is so clear like what's gonna happen as soon as you see the two yellow pearls and you're like wow i wonder where this is going i might have known but i didn't how do you how do you hide inside of that clam too i wonder he held his breath for a good long time he's very impressive. I get lost on the logistics of it. And then an octopus, a sea turtle, and a hammerhead shark start beating up Bart. I do like the hammerhead is using his head as a hammer to clonk Bart on the head. That's funny.

Say what you will, that's comedy. The turtle punching him really got me. In the original script, this was a a big one which is funny because on the commentary for no reason they start talking about the phrase jump the shark they have an entire aside of al jean going like they use the term jump the shark incorrectly because you're supposed to use it after the fact you can't say when an episode's new the simpsons jumped the shark because you're only supposed to know after the fact like you judge oh two years later this was when they jumped the shark so they they have this entire aside about jumping the shark but there was a jump the shark joke in the original script okay yeah i was wondering why

they were talking about it because they they seem to be talking about it because they were mentioning the couch gag which is not the couch gag for this episode yes i had looked away when i started the commentary and didn't see what the couch gag was when they were saying it. So I was like, oh, they must've used the other jump the shark couch gag. But maybe on their version that they were synced up to did have the jump the shark in it,

but it was very strange. I mean, language changes, people will change the way phrases are used. And I think you can declare something as jump the shark when it's clear they've dug themselves into a hole that there's very little recovery from they're not getting out of that and maybe they'll surprise you down the line but i think you can declare in the moment when a shark has been jumped although nobody uses that phrase anymore really yeah it's kind of old it's about happy days right yeah i i think once henry winkler jumped over a shark on arrested development we had to

retire that phrase yeah it's like a little because then it was cool again yeah no one knew what it meant anymore because it was like well maybe it's a fun reference this this was the era of jump the shark.com which i'm sure was purchased 900 times and then shut down i wonder what it's like now i al jean yeah i think his reasoning on there is certainly a defensive one of being sick of everybody saying every back then every new episode of the simpsons he was producing was the jump the shark moment and his he's always being defensive of saying well no you can't judge that now. Like that's instead, maybe he's trying to argue an older episode, like say Principal and the Popper was often called the Jump the Shark moment. Actually, so I looked into it.

Jumptheshark.com now redirects to TV guides. So if you ever work on a website, just know all your work is just going to be put into one link that redirects to another site at some point in the future. It's kind of comforting, honestly, because I always worry like the internet's forever not that i've said anything like bad online but i'm just like i don't want like stuff i said in high school to still be on the internet in like 50 years but it won't be it'll be gone in in a few years probably it'll get shoveled into the seo machine to boost somebody else's new thing yeah good for them if you ever want to feel bad go on facebook and go back to posts you made before

people considered the internet for jobs go to like 2005 see what see how you talk sure and there's still is and everything because you had to have is at the beginning yeah yeah that was fun because you could your whole status could just be like, chilling. So in the original script, it is that Bart's injury is caused not by being beaten up by an octopus, but instead he decides he's going to jump a shark into the shark tank. And then in the script, Fonzie appears and says, don't do it. I regret it every day, and so do they. And he points behind him, and Mr. T, Maxwell Smart, and Vinnie Bobarino are also there. A little too much.

I agree, yes. They punched it up by having the shark hit him with the top of its head, I think. Instead, in that script. Bart falls into the water while jumping the shark and then the shark helps him to safety because it's a helper shark, but it still bites his leg and causes him minor harm,

which takes him to the hospital. Either way, he gets to the hospital. Does he need a nurse shark? There was a moment where he's in the tank where I'm like, so he drowns then. That's the end of the show. The issue is he died and drowned.

Is this your new Bart's always been dead theory you're throwing out here? Yeah. Yeah, us family guy fans, we've kind of been floating stuff for a while. If you play it backwards, you'll know. Brought back to video games, it does feel like in Dave the Diver,

sometimes he'll be eaten by a shark or something and then he just shows up on the boat and you're like you died i saw you die it's traumatic then we get a still very relevant joke about how horrible the u.s health care system is that they they won't treat bart until homer appears with the insurance card. And yeah, I think they have a deleted scene here. The only one, a secret deleted scene on the DVD. But the joke is, after Bart is handcuffed to the radiator, it's then revealed that Mole Man is next to him. And I have the rest of the clip here.

Now you stay shackled to that radiator until you come up with some insurance. He means business. He put my appendix back in. Homer, are you there? Sorry, Marge, he ain't. His dummy's here, though. You want to talk to him?

And then it reveals Homer's dummy, and they reuse the same fake Homer model. It's from Guess Who's Coming to Criticize Dinner when Homer goes like, I work hard for the money so hard that that fake Homer. So this was replaced by Moe just poking around the front of the bar with a broomstick. Yes. Yes. You know, I think simpler is better once again, in this case. I like the appendix joke.

It gives space for Marge to be sexually harassed by Moe also. Yeah. Give the people what they want. The fan service. Also, bart gets his arm out of that sling real quick like he's in the sling for one shot and when we come back at night is his arms out of that sling he heals very quickly are there a lot of um mo marge uh shippers out there maybe that that who liked that one joke is that a big fanfic thing the mo marge we honestly haven't dived deep enough into fan fiction to see what the shipping communities are like google image test

i have a one reddit i follow which is the simpson shitpost reddit and in there they have jokes about mo wanting to have sex with marge but they don't i don't think they want it to happen they just see it as ample ground for gross jokes. I mean, we went through a phase where there was a lot of fan art of what if the Simpsons kids were teens and all dating each other? And I think that kind of peaked. I'm looking at AO3, the archive of our own, the big fanfic community. And the top relationship is Mr. Burns and Smithers. there's 121 written things about that and then number two is homer and marge which you don't need to they already have that one

that's what are you imagining for you don't need to do that and then it's carl and lenny oh wow who's tied with smithers and mo weirdly smithers and Moe, weirdly. Smithers and Moe? What the hell? Yeah. That's a killer. What are they thinking? I found a very tasteful image of Moe and Marge where they're kind of just flirting with each other and it's very well drawn. It is well drawn. Look at that. Nice anime style.

Yeah. Good for them. It makes you wonder if maybe there was something lost there. Well, in the show, they write it that either mo is very attractive to mar attracted to marge but also keeps thinking her name is midge or some other name so he also can't remember her name hibbert meanwhile barely laughs at the third image which i think i like when they comment on their own like rule of three joke being like diminishing returns i just goes like yeah yeah i get the at the last one so then when homer finally arrives he reveals why he was late one

of the last times they could ever do a joke about him being at a video store not long after this i was working at a blockbuster video that was laid out very similar to this but but homer's trapped between the two tvs which you still could but again in 2003 you still could be but if they did this joke just two years later people would just react with but there's no video stores where would homer even be i think family video kind of hung in there until maybe 2018 inexplicably because they were the only game in town for the people who still wouldn't stream or couldn't stream perhaps as a sad state of our culture you would probably have to go to best buy to live this scene out in 2005 the other thing that's dated is editor and chimp i mean there's just no newspapers anymore

he'd be in an unemployed chimp it's all falling apart it would just be called substack chimp he's his own boss chimp the yeah though apes are bigger than ever right now in the theaters there's three there's there's uh there's also the movie monkey man which does not count with plan the apes and king kong but three movies with uh a chimp like name and a primate style name in it with that kingdom of the apes film, apes never bigger, letterbox scores never lower. I feel fair in giving it a three. I think it's just not as good as the previous trilogy,

but it's not bad. It does feel like it's cheap. I feel like there should be at least one more famous person in it. It needs a little... I've heard of nobody in this movie other than one guy. I will say i'm

disappointed with godzilla versus kong 2 you didn't like it on my birthday they didn't they didn't uphold the proud legacy they'd started versus kong 1 they give him a glove though yeah they were like they were diving too much into lore for what was happening in front of me i think i haven't seen it it seems like monkey man the superior monkey film of spring of 2024 yeah features no monkeys isn't that fucked up that's how they do as far as i know have any of us seen monkey man here i have not either there's no actual monkeys in that film okay i've seen it there are no monkeys in the film the film is almost exactly taxi driver but if the takeaway was like isn't this taxi driver cool wait isn't it like a

john wick style movie yeah he's like killing everyone up to the president essentially but it's a taxi driver where we're to nero's just beating the shit out of everybody yeah exactly all right i like that john wick just becomes synonymous with like somebody tries to do good stunts again like that's just what it yeah like what somebody tries to do good stunts again. Like that's just what it is. Like what if somebody actually did good stunts and like filmed it in a real place? That's like John Wick. It's such a silly movie. There's actually very few other films that are like John Wick where most of the plot is everyone saying one guy's name and then murdering everyone.

I mean, Bob Odenkirk even made his own john wick like with with the john wick director yeah oh my god i forgot about that nobody oh that was lodged in my brain stem oh no hours of my life not that many hours i think it's a pretty short one oh some two hours i i did watch it in early lockdown so it is kind of like in that general weird feeling to me is associated with it. Homer can't choose between a diaper full of headlines or buttercups of autumn. And so when he comes back, this is when Marge in it sells Homer he must be reachable. From now on, you need to get a cell phone so I can reach you. You just can't get a cell phone. Lindsay Nagel, Veriqual Cellular.

And I can offer you a whole range of cellular solutions. Can I get a phone that plays the Mexican hat dance? I insist on it. I dance, I dance, I dance around the Mexican hat. I dance, I dance, I dance, and that's the end of that. Or is it I guess I'll keep keep singing My cell phone appears to be ringing Hey! Barney, did you ever notice how hard it is to drive with your niece?

Why don't you get one of those hands-free phones? It's the next best thing to paying attention to the road Hands-free, eh? Then I could give the brothers the Black Power salute Black Power! Black Power! Was that Al Roker? His exuberant it's perplexing and all the the black characters in that car voiced by white guys as was the style at the time you know it did bring me back to the time in which you'd be proud of your ringtone and you would hear more ringtones now when i'm in an airport or in public i only hear the default

one and sometimes i occasionally hear the opening bars of bed to the bone i look around you can immediately spot the 60 year old getting a phone call my mother-in-law has mission impossible that's a fine one oh that's fun yeah no i i mean i have been set to silent uh if i ever hear my phone ring i like that like induces instant stress in me like i'd never i am in silent mode all of the time. Yeah. I had a friend growing up who would do the dance around the Mexican hat bit so often. And I didn't know until watching it that it was from this episode.

I just thought that was a weird thing he did. What an original hilarious bit. My friend Homer Simpson. Yeah, it was really weird. I don't know. This is my favorite part of the episode. I'll say it. This is where this all comes from is cell phones being new, new-ish.

I mean, richer people had them in the early to mid-90s, and now everyone's getting them, which means everyone is distracted while driving. And at this point in time, there aren't really any rules as to what you can do while you're driving in terms of cell phone use. And now, in most places in America, in terms of cell phone use. And now, in most places in America, talking on a cell phone or operating in any way is illegal and would be by the early 2010s. And where I live in British Columbia right now, it was illegal in 2009. But I remember those early carefree days of driving with your cell phone, driving with

friends on their cell phones, and just the immense danger we were all in, especially with some friends of mine who when texting came out, they couldn't stop. So it would be one hand on the wheel, one hand on their phone, looking down at the phone while texting the entire time. I'm surprised I'm still here. Bro, I used to have, before smartphones,

they had the alphabet where it was mapped out to the keys, where it's like ABC is one, DEF is two. And I had it memorized through my hands. And I would do text while driving just completely without looking at the phone. And that's an experience you'll never get back. No, I mean, I had a friend before the iPhone, there were other kinds of smartphones. They had the Sidekick. And they would literally write entire LiveJournal updates while driving with me in the passenger side.

The ultimate thrill. Death Journal. I never had a cell phone and a car at the same time. When I stopped driving in 2006, that's when I got a cell phone. So, yeah, I never got to experience this i looked up the like laws currently and yeah the surprisingly or unsurprisingly the most lenient ones are in in red states like uh all all but alabama and missouri make it a primary enforcement law that you can't operate a handheld device while driving

primary enforcement means if a cop sees you doing it they can pull you over and that's all they have to blame you for it can't be like oh and you were also doing this but yeah alabama missouri don't make that a technically illegal to do it's a question of freedom you could pry my phone from my cold dead hands if you if you want to live in the freest of states in america 49 states make it illegal to text and drive or it is a punishable like a finable offense except for montana if you live in montana you can text and drive freely i was was going to guess Alaska. Montana is the one state where they encourage you to do the black power salute out your window while driving. Yes, okay, we have to talk about this. This is my favorite joke in it.

I've been wanting twice to figure out why Homer was doing black power to his car. It's so funny to me. And I just gave up. It's because if he has his hands free, it's the first thing he thinks of to do. I spaced out for like half a second and Homer is doing the Black Power salute at strangers. I think it just happened to be that the four most notable black characters on The Simpsons were in a car next to him. So he assumed, well, here's what I can do now. Yeah, they caught that live.

In the script, Drederick Tatum isn't there. So that was an extra joke they added to it before it was just carl hibbert and blue in in the car sure i love it we gotta we gotta punch that but homer is supportive he's he he wishes them black power in a positive way he's he's excited to see his black friends yeah they don't even seem to mind or anything they're like that's homer well they don't even know it's him don't they not know it's homer yeah carl actually doesn't recognize his co-worker who he drinks with every day he thinks it's al roker instead maybe there's a second mysterious episode happening in this car i would like to see where all four of those guys are going like what what's there do you yeah

they should do a whole episode from their perspective where they do see homer for that one second and i think at that point simpsons twin peaks i think at that point al roker had lost weight and was still black and remains to be black to this very day it's like seeing al sharpton as well skinny it just it still doesn't compute for me in my brain it's like fat fat celebrities are always fat to me so then homer heads to a radio shack style store which still existed back then and to get his phone accessories and when they ask the question about lighters again i'm like you know these can't exist in cars anymore right not as a lighter thing i they they must just have when i looked it up it's like most new model cars or maybe all of them have just a

clear power outlet like this is the power outlet on the car you don't need to have a fake lighter uh for for power here they should bring that back yeah you can't plug your cigarettes into the usb hole i guess i haven't tried i guess you for your vape though you can't plug your cigarettes into the usb hole i guess i haven't tried i guess you for your vape though you can't plug it into the us true then so there you go it should have the vape sign on it instead of a cigarette sign now we've come full circle i guess they tried to get rid of it but you couldn't the cigarettes have adapted so homer buys a ton of crap he doesn't need as you'd expect and then he sets up all the stuff in there. And that was the opening clip of Homer saying, even I think this is too far, which is just

I think that it's a risky joke to do on a show. And people are worried it's not as good to have Homer go like, we've written me too stupid. This is this is too much. This did get me to look up the 1984 Chaka khan song i feel for you which i've seen this episode before i didn't really know the reference i've heard of shaka khan but didn't ever hear the song and it's delightful it's a fun music video too because it does it almost makes me think it's a reference it starts with a turntable like scratching the uh the the song just like homer does in the close-up shot as he's singing it i wonder if they thought

they could get emerald for this because there's not really a joke with the emerald show he's watching like emerald doesn't act or the emerald type on the cooking show doesn't act in a crazy comedic way yeah they could have fit another joke in there they have so many but throw throw one of the tv one he is doing a bunch yeah maybe emerald saw the elzar parody in futurama and said enough is enough i'm gonna be my own sitcom star right after 9-11 maybe he had sworn off tv at this point when they offered it to him like i'm done with i'm done with scripted television just back to the the powder in the kitchen they were somewhat written into a corner there because there were no other funny guys on TV at the time.

There's also a good cut joke from the script where Wiggum sees Homer driving recklessly and he says, look at that nut. And then it reveals he's talking about an actual nut in his hand that looks weird. And he says, this belongs in the Cashew hall of fame by which i mean my stomach and i that's a good i think that's a good joke i wish they'd put that in yeah i'm a fan of any by which i mean joke instruction always a hit with me that is that his stomach is the cashew hall of fame the they do have him show up though right doesn't isn't he chasing his car or is that later yeah that's it that's an act two yeah yeah he's chasing ralph there but the end of the act comes as homer doesn't realize he's driving off of a pier he tries faxing sos and says save me shaka khan which is basically like it feels too similar to me to save me jebus from when he's praying to jebus christ and then they restart act

two with just homer being pulled out of it almost instantly he did not drown from landing in the water and the coast guard has instantly saved him there was a helicopter hovering nearby big episode for characters not drowning yeah this is alex was very confused by this point because now two characters he's watched die and they're still around you have to understand I grew up by the coast ever-present concern and all the constant death on a family guy just set a precedent in your mind it's true if it wasn't that evil monkey as a guy from Massachusetts you always think of the Simpsons as sort of a cartoon Kennedy's so I can't watch another one go so after that Homer finds himself in the courtroom again which gives them

another excuse to bring back Jane Kaczmarek with her character Constance Harm who was last seen in Barting Over and because this is a one, it makes me wonder if they just did them both together. But I believe they, Malcolm in the Middle, was filming near-ish enough that they could get her not too difficultly. What does Constance Harm

have to say to Homer here? Mr. Simpson, give me your license. Burn their poop. I am so screwed. I can't drive to work. I can't drive to the store. And I certainly can't drive to the store at work. I guess I'll have to do all your driving chores.

That's what a good wife does. Picks up the slack. That reminds me. We gotta pick up my slacks at that dry cleaner in Shelbyville. Why can't you use the local dry cleaner? I didn't want them to know my size. Thanks for picking my friends up from the strip club, Marge. Can we stop for ice cream? Homer always stops for ice cream.

We'll see. That always means no. This part of the plot reminds me of season three's Homer Alone, where it's Marge having to do a ton of chores and errands completely thanklessly. But the swerve in this one is that she rightfully tries to kill Homer. In the other episode, she just goes insane and has to be not committed, but sent away to like a little facility where she can chill out and drink tequila and eat ice cream. Does Homer have a store at his job? Is that the joke there? I was so confused by that.

I think it meant like leaving work to just go to the store. Oh, okay. I got this one. I was lost on that one. Homer is a poor worker. It's hard for me to imagine. It's funny too because we also did Duffless not too long before this, the season four episode and in that

one homer also loses his license and they cut a joke where marge is having to drive him everywhere until he uh for but just for one scene and then she gets sick of it and stops and that's why he rides lisa's bike for the rest of the episode so that cut joke has now become a major plot point in this episode yeah i love that lenny and carl act like children here but it makes it even funnier because they were just picked up from the strip club so after they feel no shame that marge picked them up from the strip club and then act like little kids who who uh want her to take him out for ice cream maybe always means no then this is where homer is asked to do the thing he should do which is instead of stressing out marge take public transit he simply refuses and it says it's for jerks and lesbians which this

would solve all of the problems if he just took the boat if homer just took the bus it would solve all problems in this episode he's just too homophobic he wasn't so bothered to be in a lesbian bar once upon a time but a lesbian bus yeah taking the bus i mean that's around the same as knowing about a nurse shark as far as the sims the lesbian bus has no emergency exit. He's against it. Is there like a known public transit system in Springfield? Has that come up before?

Outside of like the monorail, I guess. That was a big part of the season nine episode Lost Our Lisa. And I remember this. I just saw this at trivia a couple weeks ago. But it's all about her riding the bus for the first time and we see just how far outside of springfield it goes yeah she gets to do it and then she has to walk all the way back i mean that is where the don't make me tap the sign uh classic oh sure no i'm racking my brain for other classic moments that

involve taking public transit i guess oh well mr bird saying like i'm riding on the bus yes jeremy and i are both coastal elitists and so it at least brought me great pleasure watching someone who lives in the suburbs have to walk a little that's right check it out it's called walking homer yeah you know you fucking bozo homer this guy's a doofus you think you're so smart so homer goes out walking instead first glumly and uh there's a cut joke there's a couple good well i don't love the i can't drive 55 gag it just it's about vw bugs being slow like it ralph driving the car i think is a little better but they cut an extremely 2003 joke which was frank goes by wearing uh riding a segway and homer rides along on the segway with him and then they do a batman 66 style joke of the segway starts going up a building and they're going sideways and then crusty sticks his head out of the window to do a one-off joke.

Missed opportunity. They'll go for the Batman 66 jokes whenever they can, this writing staff. But the entire point is Homer is finding a new lease on life through walking and then he's just standing on the Segway. Yeah. And when he gets to DeMose, which is typically not three houses away from the Simpsons, then Homer finds a new lease on life. I did it. I walked all the way to Moe's from my house.

Way to go, Dad. You know, I feel pretty good. Maybe I should just keep walking instead of going into a dark, dreary bar. Hey, get in here, boozy. You're late for your drunkening. No, from now on, walking is my beer. And feeling good is my hangover.

Hmm. Huh. Hey, maybe this is a sign. Maybe it's time for me to get out of the alcohol business. Give Barber College another try. And this time, I won't join a frat. Who the hell am I talking to? This is, uh, they were doing a recurring joke to this time, I won't join a frat. Who the hell am I talking to? They were doing a recurring joke this time of Mo realizing he's just saying lines for nobody and that he's in his show.

There's the one in I'm Spelling as Fast as I Can where he asks Lisa to spell something. And then he just quits. He's like, what am I doing here? I got a bar. I mean, so yeah, Homer discovers walking can be good for you and then 20 years later we have a pandemic everyone else is introduced to the same concept the the proposal is you know that thing you started doing when you were two what if you were doing it a little more and all the chins started being scratched at once because i grew up in the suburbs i knew what it

was like i would go to places places with friends and their parents, and we wouldn't go if there was not good enough parking. Like, if you couldn't park close enough to the Best Buy, we were not going to Best Buy that day, or the toy store, or whatever, or the mall even. Like, no, no, no. I'm not walking 500 feet to go inside the mall and walk around more. Yeah, I found that super relatable.

Just the idea of going for a short walk and being like, I'm a new man. I can do anything. I'm not an alcoholic anymore. Yeah, Homer finally decides to stop drinking in this one. Well, once I stopped driving a car, I did walk a lot more because of work and all that. But then that was how I started doing a lot more walking. But then when I started working from home, when the podcast really took off, I did walk a lot more walking but then when i started working from home but when the podcast really took

off i did walk a lot less and then even the pandemic did it for me of really rediscovering walking ever since march of 2020 i i walk like five to seven miles a day like just to get the activity in and i do it does make me feel better i feel bad if I don't walk or any time where I've like had a cold and I go and my husband says, no, seriously, skip your walk today. Like, I just feel crappy compared to it. I get used to the high of walking. Ignore the haters. Never stop. It's also like when the pandemic happened, I feel like this is such a dumb reason to go outside.

But it was like I didn't know when to listen to like podcasts and audio books anymore because I didn't commute. And I was like, I guess I'll just walk around. Yeah. Yeah. It's great for podcast listening, too. Yeah. And I think for many people, the walking outside was one of the safer things you could do. Like if you just walked around outside at a distance from everybody else, then it's fine.

And you can just at least not be inside your home anymore. I would say walking is probably like my number one. I'm visiting family and I'm about to lose my mind technique where you can be like enough of whatever you're up to. I'm going to go in a circle outside. I mean, that's it is a good like get some air is what you'd say though sometimes that's just a cover for getting high with a with a family member at a a similarly aged family sure cousin and that's how it started cousins it is the cousin's job to bring pot to family reunions

homer just uh then shows just how much active he's getting by showing that he's now thin enough to take his blood pressure he doesn't want to know what his blood pressure is and doesn't know what to call it he just calls it this thing but i and once he tries it on he then just tosses it on the floor i also like he doesn't carefully place he just goes like this thing just throws it away i like that it's the aquatine hunger he doesn't carefully place he just goes like this thing just throws it away i like that it's the aquatine hunger force gag where the object explodes once it leaves your yeah specifically because they didn't have the money to animate it still be on the floor and that's right they had the one explosion gift they could just drag and drop over anything any

item in the world brilliant and god i respect that Yeah, they did that for no residuals and the lowest pay possible at the time. Yeah. Marge comes in, and she is not feeling as excited as Homer. We don't have time for choking. Calm down, stresserella. I'm stressed because now that you've lost your license, I'm a full-time family chauffeur. Now, now, honey, we all appreciate what you do, but real chauffeurs have uniforms and licenses. You could get in a lot of trouble with the livery commission.

To hell with the livery commission! Arch, you don't know what you're saying. I like, that's my favorite line in the episode, that Homer is pedantically correcting Marge about, like, look, I know you're upset, but that's not a chauffeur actually has to have a license. You know, you're not literally one. He's aware of the livery commission and has a great deal of respect for them. She's going too far.

Tell what the livery commission was my backup line. Someone had taken this mouse purse move. I was going to say that the transportation is for jerks and lesbians one, but I was stolen. I'm sorry. I do feel like the instinct is always to make Homer dumber and dumber, but it is always funnier when he says something a little smart. It's always a better joke.

I had to look up the livery commission. That Homer knows all of the ins and outs of how chauffeurs work. Chauffeur. I always want to say it like how Burns says it in episode i'll chauffeur myself today yeah i mean it always is funny when homer has a secret knowledge you would not expect him to have delivery commission supreme court justices everything goes on his walk to work passing by everybody stuck in their cars which always is a nice feeling when you're walking if i if i see traffic jam and all the people stuck makes me feel a real sense of satisfaction we also see that skinner and edna is trying to get skinner to be uh to i

guess have a quickie in the car but instead he's going to proctor her when you really care about someone you shouted from the mountaintops so on behalf of desjardins insurance i'm standing 20 000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care and not in a sexual way that's uh not a term for something else he's he's testing her ability as a teacher not a lot of that relationship on ao3 i'll say that that one's not on there man i feel like there'd be a lot of easy sub dom stuff in there

like you could get a lot of that there's there's juicy things to work with in in ao3 edna is probably the horniest character on the show so i'm sure there are lots of edna slash other character pairings i don't see it on that the one the fucked up one that i'm realizing is actually a lot but they have it split up for some reason by accident is sideshow bob and bart which don't don't write that wow forbidden're fucking weirdos i should have known yeah homer takes a shortcut through the park and this is when he tells people playing dominoes that they should uh make a chess move and this is another like runner at this time where homer is denied something because he's wrong and then he's like like, I said, and he shakes the fist.

Like he already was shaking his fist a lot at people as a threat, but it's like, why I ought to argue little. But now it's like, I said, and then people do what Homer says because he will beat them otherwise. This is the fist shaking era of the show. I don't really know when it ends, but we're deep in it right now. That fist has two meanings sometimes it's raised for black power and sometimes it's raised for for violence then comes a joke with our old pal mr wilson which i think this shows you the timing of or i don't know if it comes down to the character designers or what here but

instead of using the mr wilson design that is reminiscent of him in the comic strip or the 50s one, instead they go with Mr. Wilson as he appeared in the 1990s version as played by Walter Matthau. And his wife is very excited to finally be offered a divorce by him, which she's waiting. She could leave when is this a no-fault divorce state for the simpsons live in henry i think we were just talking about watching old dennis the ministry runs on nickelodeon when we were kids which mr wilson did you prefer i prefer the actual old man who died during the filming of the show and they had to replace him yeah no the glasses wearing mr wilson he's i i prefer him to mustache mr wilson too but i'm also one of those i prefer the original darren i you uh there's almost no

case where i i prefer the the person who replaced the original actor yeah that had to be one of the first times on a tv show they had to address a death in in a storyline now it's that's happened in a million sitcoms but dennis the menace had to address it on a 1950s children's show. I didn't know there was an episode that addressed the death of the character. I thought he just lived on. Was it Mr. Wilson's cousin that came to live with Mrs. Wilson? I do believe it is like he's portrayed as a different Mr. Wilson, like his brother or something, I think. I could be off on this i'm gonna need to check our pal

popperina their knickknacks video on dennis the menace because i'm sure this is all illuminated there popperina does quite a lot of great work research i knew i should have brushed up on my wilson lore before i came on here i looked it up folks i know that the patrons are are their blood is boiling right now because they're all stumbling around the Mr. Wilson lore George Wilson first Mr. Wilson on the Dennis the Menace TV show replaced by his brother John Wilson okay so they didn't pretend it's the same guy it's but he still is Mr. Wilson so it does not take away Dennis's classic catchphrase and that's the guy with the documentary show on HBO. Pretty sure they're the same.

Related in some way. Well, another recent thing I was reminded of was the show Suddenly Susan had to deal with that on it, where their silly, goofy sidekick character sadly died on a weekend of partying too hard with Andy Dick. And they had to write that into the episode, into the series as well.

Damn. But on that note, Homer walks to work and Mr. Burns is so impressed, he gives him a very accurate recreation of the 1939 World's Fair ticket, at least based on the one I found on eBay that was selling for $25. Wow, that seems like a lot for a fair you missed i that was way more affordable i thought it was it makes me think it's a reproduction then if it's only 25 that's before the ticket master fees it bumps up to 40 i was actually looking at to see what was at this fair And one of the most popular exhibits was something called the Jewish Palestine Pavilion.

Very prescient. So it introduced the world to the concept of a modern Jewish state, which a decade later became Israel. So just letting people of that era know, here's what Israel is. I mean, Mr. Burns is definitely older than Israel. We know this. And I'm sure they didn't tell the people there, your grandchildren will have to take an oath to Israel no matter what job they'll have in America. So don't worry about that.

Also, it's always funny to see Mr. Burns break all of his limbs. It's happened a lot. This repeats other jokes of him breaking all his limbs. But him trying to take two steps breaking both his legs and then breaking his arms while trying to crawl pretty pretty good joke i like that bit i like that smithers has like a delayed reaction to it also just like a weird little animation quirk and so i guess mr burns will be crippled for the rest of the series after this uh speaking of uh homophobia like we were before now we find out that bart and millhouse are late for school because they touched each other's hands and

they had to wash the cooties off that was kind of an interesting line because it was like a little homophobic like a splash of it but mostly like boys are stupid this is real speaking of dennis the menace it's real dennis the menace behavior mentioning cooties having a frog in a shoebox oh yeah yeah bart should just he should still have his slingshot in his back pocket for this scene he just to make it complete if this was on family guy this is when the kids would come back and just start hitting millhouse randomly again they would just do the same animation yeah again i, Alex, you mentioned your family guy watching.

I hope you didn't have a sibling, because I would fear they'd think you'd start treating her like how everyone treats Meg in the show. I had two younger brothers, and I beat the hell out of them. The fighting frog animation is fun, too, though. If Family Guy had done this, it would have been a two-minute-long fight scene that would just take over the episode.

Yeah. Though it's fun. They start battling within Marge's hair also. That's extra fun. And so then Marge has had a very stressful day. Meanwhile, the rest of the family, they're ready for a fun evening. How about we take a family walk around the block? Yay!

I want to ambo. I want to saunter. Ambo! Saunter! Ambo! Saunter! Stop saying things! Honey, you seem frazzled.

Why don't you come with us? Hey, I'd like that. I can't. I have to go pick up Grandpa. He proposed to another hooker at the bus station. You sure love driving. And then they all party outside. Ending with first Homer carries Bart and Lisa,

and then Bart carries Homer and Lisa for a couple seconds. You mentioned the Marge quote, everything is something earlier, Henry. That's a great mid-era Marge quote. I love stop saying things just that anything is being said is driving her crazy not not what they're saying she doesn't have an opinion just stop saying I can't say enough good things about the saunter animation truly memorable stuff Homer's so mean in this one it's just he's so cruel i don't know it's

just so subtle there i know they're making him thought yeah he's he's just supposed to be written as thoughtless but when he says that she sure likes driving it's like she's made it very clear she does not like driving homer i uh though also it sounds like it's a regular occurrence that abe proposes to sex workers often at the bus station but it sounds like it's a regular occurrence that Abe proposes to sex workers often at the bus station, but it sounds like as in to be married, not proposition. Marge doesn't use the proposition term. So it made me think he's saying, will you marry me to sex workers? Or is he asking to hire them for their services?

Hmm. It's gotta be the former. Yeah. I don't think anyone uses the word propose in that way. Unless they're trying to be cute i guess which is disgusting it makes more sense that abe would be confused enough to just keep proposing marriage to random people at a bus station yeah if only we had some kind of family guy style cutaway to show exactly how the proposition is carried out we have the technology and they refuse to use it.

Family Guy would show us the wedding night the next morning. They'd burn off the rest of this entire act just focusing on that. That could be good. And this episode aired in the rare trough of no Family guy on television in the last 25 years like so they could have gotten away with bringing back their cutaways that family guy had done so much of yeah they had random celebrities appear might as well then we go to homer starting up his next song and this also shows you like an episode where they didn't want to cut a lot of stuff or that i go back to this all the time that in Reese's book, the former Simpsons executive producer, Mike Reese, where he says,

you put songs in Simpsons scripts because if they approve of the song, then when you're doing the Laborious rewrite, that's three or four pages. You don't have to cut or make any changes to because you've agreed upon the song this one is based on talk to the animals from the 1967 rex harrison dr doolittle just just so people don't think i mean the wonderful robert downey jr doolittle film yeah looking up dr doolittle i i remembered the eddie murphy one but not the on on the dawn of covid robert Downey Jr. Doolittle film. He is so lucky that COVID happened because I doubt he would have won that Oscar for Oppenheimer if people remember Doolittle.

He almost won it for Tropic Thunder too. That's right. I forgot he got nominated for that. Yeah, he lost to Heath Ledger as the Joker. He was robbed. It would have been very funny to give it to Robert Downey Jr. in blackface in a comedy over you know the dead Heath Ledger this is a final fuck you yeah and this is where Homer reveals that he well first he thinks he

has a fanny pack on but it's really just a bulge in his butt, which is a critic joke. This is Al Jean stealing from himself on the critic. Oh, I guess. So there was a fanny pack joke. It's the same fanny pack joke in the critic. Well, he says when Alice's sister says, oh, you make a lot of money. He says, well, look at the size of my wallet. And he points at his butt. And then she says, but your wallet's over there.

And he's like oh like so a lumpy ass reveal is is the general joke here it's a new it's a new spin on the lumpy ass joke 10 years later if you write some solid material that resonates with so much of america you gotta bring that back yeah i was gonna say not funny enough to do a second time that joke i like that the execution is that homer when he reveals it's not a fanny pack, he just throws the money behind him. He doesn't put the money back in his wallet. He just tosses it behind him.

This is where Homer reveals just how good he's feeling as he sings a song that I will drop in here. Morning, Homer. Looking good. Yeah, walking's made a new man out of you. It sure has. You see this bulge back here? Now it actually is a fanny pack. No, wait. It's still my ass. But your point is well taken. You see...

I like to walk down the avenue Bust a move with disco stew You shake me from my boot to my fro Yes, I strut down the boulevard Burning off my excess lard I rarely feel the need to utter dough Top of the morning, ladies! Bite us!

I can walk from Springfield to Alaska Then hobnob with the stars in Malibu. Hi, Homer. I'm actor Steve Buscemi. The guy who got fed into the wood chipper in Fargo? And when I hear, you can't walk to Turkmenistan, I say, of course I can. Screw you. Hey, would you guys like tickets to the Independent Film Awards? Would we? Oh, I love to perambulate

It's standing still I really hate So let me please reiterate I love to My feet are inside me As far as Simpsons songs go i i think it's an all right one uh you know they've had worse it's catchy enough steve buscemi really got shortchanged and he was sad after he recorded this thinking oh i was on the simpsons once and i just said hi i'm steve buscemi and one other line and i'll never get to come back they brought him back although in steve buscemi

news we've recently learned that the knockout game is real, but only character actors are being targeted because we had Rick Moranis was first to fall and then Steve Buscemi. So who will be next? M. Emmett Walsh is dead. I think he would be number three if he didn't pass away earlier this year.

Well, there was that guy. You're saying Steve Buscemi was recently knockout game? Yeah, he got punched in the face in manhattan this year yesterday yeah no one's even doing that this is such big news that my dad texted me about it for some reason be safe they got steve buscemi you know it's interesting because i feel like there was the um there was that that tiktok thing where people were warning everyone about like a guy who's going around new york punching women in the face randomly and i guess now that guy

finally got to steve buscemi for some reason like what is the connection i i think honestly alan ruck is next so keep your head on a swivel alan it's not a threat i just see it in your future well he's more famous than ever, thanks to Succession. He's a bigger target. Well, I was looking where Buscemi was at this point when the episode aired, and he was deep in the Sopranos world, and doing other stuff, too. But his big credits were he was both directing at least one episode of sopranos per season and also was his season where he appears in season five that's about to air uh after this like within a few months when was pine barons

because he directed that one right that was a one i believe uh before 9-11 the pie what a year for for buscemi he was he directed pine bars and was a firefighter at 9-11. Well, that can't compare, though, in season 19, his return to Simpsons playing Dwight Diddlehopper in I Don't Want to Know Why the Caged Bird Sings. Right, I always remember him as Dwight Diddlehopper. This is a very flattering

caricature of Steve Buscemi. There's one angle where they're trying to, you know, approximate what's going on in his mouth, but I will say they're being very kind to him here i i know going back to family guy i know there was an entire scene about like the teeth in steve buscemi's mouth and their conversations with each other and an early joke in his family guy not not as kind yeah him and penelope cruz's nose really get it over there i i like his little nod to homer when he's like you're the guy from fargo he just nods like that's right when they go to turkmenistan and pick the uh piss those guys off they then are invited to the independent film awards which i'm guessing means

the independent spirit awards which that year the winner was far from heaven the todd haynes film which is pretty good i think that's a pretty good movie all right exciting time for homer give it a watch if you haven't so homer is having fun with his song dancing with disco stew saying he rarely wants to utter dough but it is interrupted in my favorite animation in the episode like you have to you hit pause when he gets hit in the middle of that song he has such a great funny face that i made it the image for this week's episode like it's such a great picture but marge interrupts the song to smash into him and i think i would have been fine with them

ending the scene with just homer is hurt on the ground i I don't know. How do you guys feel about My Feet Are Inside Me? I don't love that line. I actually like it. It's a new kind of that's going to leave a mark style. Yeah, the worst version of that is when people go like, I'm okay off screen. It makes me so mad for some reason. Yeah, that's lazy.

My Feet Are Inside Me is extreme in a way that all of us felt after 9-11 that's right it's a new kind of injury i never thought of my feet are inside me that's like what happened to the people in that submarine last year right i'm just trying to think of a situation where your feet would be inside for about a millionth of a second yeah i think that was true yeah you're compressed into a diamond. Maybe I was unduly giving this line distaste because I associated with the many like, I am inside you, I want you inside me, blank city, I'm inside you, that run of things, which I feel like I don't see so much anymore. Yeah. The inherent eroticism of the line now if a tiny plane landed on homer's feet and someone inside said i homer's feet i am inside of you right now i would give that joke a

big thumbs down that would be a bad joke dr frank shrunk himself down just to make that joke for the now guys when we did your podcast you had among the questions there was, I believe it was something like, would you shoot to this person if they came towards your wife with a gun or whatever? But have you guys gotten anything like a running over a spouse? Like, has that popped up yet in your exploration? We had one recently that was, what would a gun owner do if I followed his wife around blowing an air horn at her all day? I don't think we've had any car-based ones yet, though. We should look for them. I'm sure many...

Which is strange, because that's what comes up the most, I think, in the real world. I have a friend who has been hit by two ex-girlfriend's cars. So, I mean, it's happening out there. You know some wonderful lovers. Were they exes at the time, or did they become exes after they hit him? so i mean it is it's happening out there you know some wonderful lovers were they were they exes at the time or did they become exes after they hit him no they were still dating at the time he's someone who always has like a new girlfriend who he's very much in love with and then uh within like a month he's like yeah she tried to kill me five times so we broke up and but this new girl we all know that guy we all have one of those

two two running overs uh shame on him that's what i say he's a regular homer simpson well hopefully your friend didn't have his crushed pelvis like homer does here he really bounces back with this crushed pelvis in act three it's incredible healing you for this episode to work you have to assume that between the first and second scene of the third act seven or eight months at least have passed or he's like bart because they both heal so fast i forgot how this this third act unfolds and i I assumed, oh, Marge is now Homer's nurse and it drives her crazier. No, not really. There's one soup feeding scene and then his pelvis is better than ever.

Well, Homer does say he would have been off worse if he wasn't carrying a Bible in his crotch, which that's a good joke. Because, of course, you know, they actually have done multiple jokes like that on the show of, oh, I had a Bible close to my heart. That's why this bullet, it stopped the bullet. But in this case, it somehow made being hit by a car hurt a little less. It's a good gag. After a quick gag about Soup gradually burning Homer quite a lot. Next scene, he's getting around fine. He's even hooling.

And Marge simply can't stand it anymore and i really think julie cavner in this little bit here does some good acting after knocking homer to the ground kicking out his cane without realizing it gee everything always works out for you oh my god let me help. Marge, you're trying to hurt me. What? That's crazy. No, it's true. The car, the soup. It's like you hate me. Your own husband. That's ridiculous. I don't like you. I mean, hate you, hate you, hate you. I hate you. I've heard that from coworkers, strangers on the street, even my own children.

But I never thought I'd hear it from you. Maybe we should see a counselor. Who's we? Got a mouse in your purse? That's good writing. I really like even my own children. I know it's meant to be sad, but it really made me laugh. That mouse in your purse

thing, is that like somebody's mom or dad said that one of these, right? It feels like such an antiquated turn of phrase. I've never heard it. It doesn't seem original to me. No, I... They say it with the confidence like, oh, we've all heard this mouse in your purse line. It's like, what?

You know what? I'm just glad a mouse didn't pop out of her purse at that moment. Because that would have been too far. What if it was itchy? It's a living. It's not in the script i was like okay what is this for is this in the script or not i my immediate thought on some of these lines is especially if it's like a passive aggressive thing people say to each other in this era i want to think it's a dana gould line because i swear i've heard him say this kind of thing before. I was guessing that too.

I can't say that for certain, though. But I did see apparently it is like an old saying. It's more when I search for it online. It's saying like, who's we got a mouse in your pocket? But purse works just the same. A purse would pretty much be a car to a mouse. A hot air balloon. Like a bicycle airship.

I think there's just a lot more space. I think it would be more comfortable. It's got room to run around. You know, I've seen it as a Twitter reply now. Like who's we, I've seen that as a good, like that's right up there with this.

You like who's, who's talking about, but people should amend it to be, who's we I've seen that as a good like that's right up there with this you like who's talking about but people should amend it to be who's this we do you have a mouse in your purse this you parentheses a mouse living inside of a purse the rest of this episode is I feel

like they couldn't find a way out of this story and we're at the end of the season by the way so there's less time and less energy put into these kind of solutions so i i don't like how this work resolves because they go to therapy the therapist says here's what you should do then he does it and then it's over there's no like twist there's no there's nothing clever about it it just it's very straightforward and the party i mean there are some jokes the party but the party is just like it's almost like we're there and the audience is there invited to appreciate mars yeah marriage is really easy it's the um internet meme right the like there's a big crazy party and everyone is

invited i think marriage is really easy if you're friends with a lot of famous musicians who are willing to just like show up at your house oh yeah well that Well, that's why there's so few divorces in celebrity relationships, right? We'll cover him, but when Marge got Weird Al to write Homer a song in Three Gays of the Condo, which we covered about a month ago,

it was pointed out that Weird Al was being paid for this song. I don't know where this guy comes from and how he ended up in springfield and what he's just kind of there yeah they didn't even bother with having a joke about paying him

to do this like they they just magically have him there it's not that nice of a gesture right because like everyone's like you should do something for her like make her dinner or something he's like i'll just get other people to do it like he doesn't even really do anything that's true he does pawn it off on others as well but i so the episode we just covered in season 14 before this was old yeller belly and in that there is a deleted scene where they go to a dog therapist and then ask the dog therapist to help with couples therapy and now i think they cut that scene because they realized the next week's episode is them going to couples therapy and it would just be too repetitive yeah that'll do it they admit on the commentary that this

satire of therapy is a little musty that this guy looks like this looks like a sketch they'd have written in the 70s i do like that when he, do you see your wife is just a doormat? He looks at her and she turns into a doormat. I thought that was a very weird on the nose joke. It's also that happens in the critic a lot. Does it? Well, then it's just that's it's a Looney Tunes joke being done, too. But it does lead to Homer calling the guy Dr. Hot Dog which so i i that gave me a chuckle it earned

a uh it's paved the way for a funny joke later in the scene and i like that the sign on the the building says the one who's wrong pays yes that the the therapist will decide who is wrong and they will be paying it feels like perhaps maybe a writer or two had been through couples therapy at this point yeah we've we've we've said this before but i think this is the most divorced or future divorced staff on the simpsons writing team pre-divorced yes pre-divorced guys well also this reminded me of something bob you've mentioned uh about the sad state of the apu character at this time because he's now trapped in the rut of why his wife hates him and these are the only jokes they do with him yeah I mean the previous jokes were Apu being very

industrious to the point where he's often ripping people off just overly eager overly helpful immigrant character and now he is the guy with the world's worst wife who physically assaults him. Beats him to the point of losing his teeth. And once he cheated on her, this is all their relationship will be from now on is her hating him and him always apologizing. Poor Appu. So they did cut one good joke in this sequence in the original script where you see the dr hot dog that's what i'm just going to call him he tells them to list who's most important in their lives we see homer's list where it's just three people who are him including commander cool which is him uh but we don't see marge's list in the script we do see marge's list and the joke is she lists a very very long list of people that includes well first homer

is number one then the kids but then it gets into lenny carl cletus she also thanks the good people at gracie films and then puts herself at the very bottom and i do think it almost is a thematic point that this episode doesn't even give marge the time to talk about herself they cut it out of the episode that's a good joke they should have kept it they act so big about it to put it back in once they reach the end of the therapy session marge storms off and i i do feel like your wife storming out of the couples therapy session that's the end like there's not you're not doing so hot yeah the first session yes then this therapist he really earns that dollar with at the same romantic dinner it's like yeah that'll fix it yeah but it costs the extra dollar to get it you're in a bad spot when

your therapist suggests getting a musical guest though also like do something nice for marge resolves it like this is like bob said this is the end of like a million episodes before this and a million episodes after this yeah i guess now you would just get your partner a cameo from a famous 70s singer-songwriter right yeah that'd be such a bummer to get after uh walking out on a therapy session. It was a fucking caveat from a musician you've never heard of. I got you, Mike the Situation, doing an original rap.

This planning of the dinner, it apparently is a reference to a Danish film called Babette's Feast, which I have not seen. Is that why they have French busboys later? Because I was so confused by that that confused me I've never seen this film and it came up on the commentary and I thought like oh I I didn't know this was an allusion to this or they were they were parroting this in particular no no me neither the no the French to get ahead of that the French busboys as far as I

can tell the original intention is the joke is that you know the French are great waiters so we imported them and then and then Homer follows that up by saying and I hired a Spanish bodybuilder to carry you to the bedroom so that's a cut joke there it's so it's different Europeans the busboy joke though well he says like oh they're French busboys I mean American which just doesn't make any sense. I think it is a Freedom Fries joke. I think that's the joke. You know, that confused me too until I remembered this is 2003, written in 2002. You couldn't even know a French waiter.

Spanish bodybuilder at best. As they are trying to plan the feast, though, Moe and Carl have some opinions. You know what Mom really loves? Julianne potatoes. And for dessert, peach crumble. You want to know how to make a peach crumble? Kick it in the groin. Anyway, what's going on? I'm going to treat Marge to a romantic dinner to make up for all my shortcomings.

Hey, Homer, if you're having a banquet for Marge, I'd like to help. Hey, me too. I can whip up my famous poulet au vin avec champignon à la carte. You can bring a bag of ice. Lousy, Homer. I'll show him. Tonight his beloved mock apple pie will have real apples okay i'm glad you kept that in henry because i really love that joke homer not only prefers mock apple pie to regular apple pie but march considers that revenge by making his apple pie better i i don't i don't know if i've ever had mock apple pie but when i looked

at i was like oh right it's it's making apple pie without all those apples in it so it's like crappier it's like it feels like depression era cooking or something it's what's in a mock apple pie is basically a cracker mush right oh i know mcdonald's has a mock apple pie. And the thing Carl is explaining apparently is chicken and mushrooms in a white wine sauce. Oh. That chef's kiss we see him do is now a super popular gift to post on Twitter and other places. I don't know. I guess maybe that was the first chef's kiss on The Simpsons, perhaps. I don't know why that particular kiss lived on in meme form.

That's huge. I can't think of other ones before this though but maybe there were but yeah that when i see if i see a chef kiss meme on twitter often it is that one though i feel like you see antonio banderas more than the chef kiss these days him him reacting to the computer but you see chef kiss a lot yeah it's funny what picks up as like a meme because that joke is kind of just nothing like it's not a big part of the episode at all it's visually good yeah i mean it's beautiful chef's kiss i think if you were working on form the one you would show a class and i i would think most people including me before doing this research would forget that this is a season 14 scene that becomes a meme most people figure if it if

something from simpsons becomes a meme it has to be in the first decade yeah i'd wonder how much these shows not necessarily the simpsons but any show like writes things thinking like oh this could end up being a reaction gif if we do it well now i think they create scenes just to be gif and just to go viral here that wasn't even a uh possibility but it seems like now they do i asked tim long on twitter if he know realizes the this scene he wrote because it's in the script so i was like okay it like he says chef kiss motion i believe is what's written in the script so yeah he hasn't replied to me yet. If he replies to me later, I might amend the podcast and let you guys know.

Well, I was thinking of a recent example is on the last episode of the Go Lives as of this airing, they brought on the comedians who did that fun Eurobeats parody from last summer. They brought them on and they basically did a new song. Kyle Gordon. And I feel like that, thanks for knowing the names i didn't know the names um i feel like that was created to be separately passed around on the internet to spread word about the simpsons and it feels like those scenes are now engineered to be viral in a way they that they couldn't have been before that that whole bit is so weird to me because i I like Kyle Gordon. I think his video is funny. But it's such a strange bit to, like, do a parody of several months later. And it's, like, about how, like, the European healthcare system is better than ours.

And then also, like, the character that they have is representation of, like, a European pop star. It's just an American doing a stereotype. Like, it's such a strange thing. The real issue you're having is it's like cultural commentary of a uh the moment that lasts six seconds yeah yeah i think i mean their attentions were good i think the issue is there is a six to nine month lead time on these shows so if they reference something that's ephemeral people are just going to be weird about it when they finally put the episode out yeah

that's true if it came out in like october i don't think it would be weird i like how mo enters the scene too with a joke and then the man wants to catch up with what is being talked about and he doesn't know but he's like what are we talking about uh oh also in that clip i kept in i think julie keavner does a very funny stealing stealing mo's catchphrase so we head into the backyard party and everybody's there rainier wolf castle is sitting at this table with patty and selma for instance and the mayor and his wife are here you know one thing i really noticed is because there's such a part of the scene with Jackson Brown. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops.

So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs weird i don't remember saying that part visit dejauden.com care and get insurance that's really big on care did i mention that we care skinner edna and chalmers are all seated together seems awkward for chalmers to be a third wheel at their table yeah i'd love to go to one of these parties though like if anyone in my neighborhood ever

has like a trying to make it up to their wife party like i'd love to just hang out and just have the free food or whatever yeah keep an eye open for who has a smashed groin on your block i will well the next door app maybe would keep you up to date on this like that's actually a good point i spotted jackson brown in a hoodie walking past my condo i called the police though ned isn't there because homer tricked him to go take a train to montana where texting is free i like that the h christ on the jesus is a parenthetical like parentheses h christ so into the original script when sea captain is serving march it's actually a fish that thanks to a chemical spill comes pre-breaded like he said that oh and thanks to

this chemical spill the this fish comes pre-breaded so it was easy to cook i like that that's funny but instead it turns into sea captain being very passive-aggressive to march tonight we're here to serve you sit back and enjoy the finest food springfield has to offer i brought you me finest catch of the day we lost a dozen good men, but it's worth it just to see you smile. That's it, eh? Twelve men. Well, I've got some families to inform. Unbelievable.

What? Nothing. Just a curse on your very soul. That has a lot of good Marge noises. Her reaction like, eh, and then, what? This episode a bit full good Marge noises. Her reaction like, and then, this episode, a bit full of Marge murmurs. She must've just been on a roll in the booth and they were like, we'll work with that.

We'll add that in. Now you've all been waiting for it. It's finally time to talk about Jackson Brown. Hold your applause, please. Until the end of this. And now Marge, I bring you the main course,

a lecture recording artist, slash a political activist, Jackson Brown. Ooh, the pretender. When Homer told me about this special night, I just had to be a part of it. I'm here to serenade you with a song. Yay!

From my latest album. Aw. Just kidding. Here's one of my many classics. That I fixed with new words. You hooked up in high school, now you've come so far. Then you started to hate him and hit him with your car So I threw you a fancy banquet And now you can't stay mad

About a makeup snuggle It would be so rad I'm really touched by how much you care I love you too So you don't want to kill me anymore? Only with kisses. Oh, don't be a wuss. When you turn out the light, I've got to hand it to me.

Looks like it's me and you again tonight, Marjorie. So, originally, this was going to be Jon Bon Jovi. It's one of those cases in which they hear a celebrity likes the show. So they write a part for them. They send them the script. The celebrity is like, what the hell is this? And they find someone else. In this case, turns out Jon Bon Jovi objected to, I guess he was going to be part of a big spaghetti platter you know i guess that was the joke reveal of him he didn't like that he was confused by that

and also they called richie sambora a giant meatball and he didn't like that so oh they he shot that down and they got jackson brown instead i only found out who he was because of this podcast when i saw the name of uh some of his hits, I was like, oh, yeah, I know that one from the radio. But I also think Bon Jovi didn't like the joke that Jackson Brown plays with Very Good, which is, I'm going to play one of my new songs and everybody is disappointed. And then they go like, I'm kidding. One of my many hits. I think I think Selman says Bon Jovi did not like a joke about his new songs being not as popular. That makes more sense than the spaghetti bit.

Probably lots of problems with it. Bon Jovi had a lot of opinions. And the song is a parody of Rosie. We get the song Marjorie, which is a parody, a loving parody, a slash tribute. So, yes, this song is about masturbation. The story of the song is somebody at a concert falls in love with a girl and the girl goes home with the drummer and he sings about Rosie, you're always there for me. Rosie is his hand that he uses to masturbate his penis with

at the end of the night. Now, here is what Jackson Brown says in a 2003 Guardian article, quote, but Rosie, now that's about masturbation you know rosie palm and her five sisters people have listened to that song and loved it for years without knowing that my mother who listens to lyrics thoughtfully said to me i finally figured out what that song's about and i'm thinking oh shit she said it's about wine isn't it rose am i right so i really appreciate that my mother didn't get all the way there imagining that. So yes, it is a very touching, sad ballad that's secretly about jerking off at the end of the night when you don't get to bring home the girl you like. Nah, I like it. This guy is insane.

Doesn't make any sense at all. It's so great it took 30 years for him to say that for real in that Guardian interview. When Al Jean says it on the commentary, I never even, like when I had not heard Rosie, it's not one of his big hits. And then Al Jean on the commentary says, this is based on Rosie, a song about masturbation. I was like, what? I was like, Marge, what? Yeah.

Let me read you the very telling lyrics. So this is the refrain. But Rosie, you the very telling lyrics. So this is the refrain. But Rosie, you're all right. You wear my ring. When you hold me tight, Rosie, that's my thing. When you turn out the light, I got to hand it to me. Looks like it's me and you again tonight, Rosie.

So, yeah. Wow. Who holds a ring but a hand? That's right, Alex. It's right there in the lyrics rosie palm and her five sisters is such like an old man like i've never that was never a a jerk off euphemism are you i only heard it on buvis and butthead in the earlier years of that show that yeah this sounds like something you'd say before you get in like a street tussle with the enemy jazz gang i got

two sisters for you right here, pal. Rosie Palm. And a second one. Fast enough. But you can imagine. You can imagine a second sister. You would not do well in that gang, Alex. They would beat your ass up.

No. You're not quick enough. There's a sister. You need to take more improv classes. So in the original script, there's no song here. So they must have, this is my guess that in that table draft script they were feeling like boy this like it's even flatter in the script if you

take out jackson brown then it's just them having a party for march and then it ends like so this is the punch up having a random celebrity sing a song. What a song it is. I also saw that in a 2010 EW interview for like, you know, a Simpsons milestone. They interviewed Matt Groening and Dan Castellaneta about the show and just in general. And this is a wide ranging interview. But they asked Castellaneta like, oh, who's like a famous person that's been impressed meeting you? And Dan says, I went to record with Jackson Brown at his recording studio when he guested on the show. I'm thinking, wow, this is cool. I'm recording with Jackson Brown.

And then Jackson Brown said, wow, this is cool. I'm recording with Homer Simpson. I couldn't believe that. That's a bad sign for the celebrity guest. Yeah, Bon Jovi would not have said that. No. And we can tell our listeners, the song you probably heard from him is running on empty rosie's on the same album as running the eponymous running on empty album which it's a fun song i like that song be a better way they could

have flipped running on empty than the the masturbation song running on homie sure there you go there you go that's off the dome maybe i would bet it's cheaper to license for parody the song rosie than running on empty though that makes sense also what is like that line from homer in the song of so now you can't stay mad i was like damn that's uh that's a little abuse crappy homer abusive relationship he's love bombing her repeats love bombing we should cancel homer what's the age gap after the song we then kind of just like kill 40 seconds until the end of the episode that they cut a line where Carl and Ralph have an unspoken feud and they're like, oh, this is why we're never in the same place.

I'm going to get you, Ralph. I was like, that is a very random joke in the original script. Yeah, it feels like the end. There's no big finish. There's nothing subversive. It's just like, how about this joke? How about that joke? And you're just like, I've i've had enough i'm going home you get the point over impressively strangles bart single-handed while holding up a wine box in his other hand yeah and it's a funny

drawing of bart we've seen a lot of bart they drew an original bart being choked drawing instead of just uh counting on the the old standby that's another one of those cartoon things where if you physically saw it it would be astounding yeah a man uh strangling his son one arm off the ground while holding something else in the arm you wouldn't call the cops because you'd be so impressed after the toast we see patty and selma smoking cigars saying that they destroyed their control top pantyhose then this is where we get the french bus boys joke which yeah i i feel like it's part of the anti-french sentiment but that's because bob mentioned it a couple episodes ago where another line was changed seemingly to reflect these bus boys wouldn't help us in afghanistan

they should have said freedom bus boys then i would have gotten it and then very abruptly for the partygoers and the viewers at home homer simply ends the party by turning on the sprinklers and telling everybody to leave and it's it's just such a flat ending i feel like if you're gonna have jackson brown song end with that you know just just end with that i gotta laugh at the sprinklers just just put in all the deleted scenes and end with now you can't stay mad and we fade to black yeah because they even bring in the orchestral or not orchestra the the instrumental version of the song comes in there which makes me think oh we're gonna hear it over the credits and no not even that though at this point they were getting cut off by the the ads for the next show so heavily that they knew why pay the licensing fee for rosie over the credits when it won't be playing until it's on dvd they should have done it they should have faded to black and then you just hear like

is that about masturbation and now end it there yeah they would have it would have given you some last joke i guess the last joke is the sprinklers and then right before that march says that she's going to like kill homer with stuggling and yeah that's uh it's it scares homer he doesn't like it rough homer homer's a light touch in the bedroom that's how i took it these are all like no that that to me these are all joke samples you know if you want to try the whole thing they'd give it to you but you're like i don't like how that tastes they can't they can't commit to one thing being the closer they have no they have no confidence in something being the closer for the joke for the episode so they just give you they give you every draft that's kind of the opening too they were really counting on bon jovi they really were derailed

by that believe it or not much bigger than jackson brown in the year 2003 i'm trying to imagine that episode ending with like living on a prayer instead and how much more fun the episode would be we could have had living on a bart that would be pretty good can't beat that yeah so this episode to me my final thoughts are that i think it it actually is kind of funny for the random ideas of aquarium plus cell phone plus homer walking but then once they have to resolve that like marge is mad at homer they don't know what to do when they in the telltale pants episode from this season they get to a better ending where homer realizes marge did something she sold his pants without telling

him and kept the money for herself and instead of even talking to her about it he on his walk up the stairs realizes oh wait i suck in Marge's right. Why even have this fight? And he just lets it go. The writers in that case go like, why are we even going to go to the apology ending? Homer should just know he's wrong. It's season 14. If you don't know by now.

Yeah, I said it before. They don't know where to go in act three there's some funny jokes before that but they don't know what to do once homer is his pelvis is healed so it just kind of peters out and in this case i would request the crazy third act rewrite where homer has to track down a diamond thief or something who knows something crazy but i feel like they didn't have the energy at the end of the season to do that so just this kind of sitting there it's pretty mediocre and i think it's a fun exploration of just how insane cell phone use was when everyone was getting them it's a fun little time capsule in that respect but not one of my favorites from this season yeah it's a bunch of there's a bunch of funny jokes in it

but it's very much just like sequential things happening like it's almost like a 20 minute sketch rather than like maybe i just haven't watched the simpsons in a while but i feel like you know if you watch a lot of like seinfeld or curb like where it's always sunny or something like usually there's you know a sitcom premise that like ironically unfolds over you know the course of the episode and this one was very much just like this happens and then this happens then this happens then it's over and it's like that's all right it was still pretty crazy no i don't mean it's not to say it's not crazy. No, it's crazy. It was very crazy. It's crazy.

Mark died. It's insane. Then Homer died. Yeah, Homer died. A lot of people died in it. And I assume this was the final episode of the show. Yeah, we have to quit our jobs after this. We're sorry, everybody.

You know what they could have done, though? They could have had them both die and then do a Fast and Furious style. Everything else is going to be a prequel because we realized we fucked up and killed our characters they'd have to unkill uh for that so jeremy and alex thank you so much for being on the show please let us know where to find you online and more about corridors you're a great podcast thanks for having us yeah um we we do a show where we we read questions from the website quora and they're all insane and we make fun of them so go check that out i think you guys this episode was a really fun one so it's a good starting spot yeah we're on youtube and podcasts if you're somebody who

works at a computer and likes to leave that stuff playing because that's a big share of the market these days yeah you can see us reacting. If listeners wondered what our home recording setup looks like, you should check out the episode we guested on. That's true. There's some cool stuff back there. I'm looking at it right now. A thousand hidden gems. It's like a Simpsons

episode looking at your wall. You can try to find something that will cancel us. Look at all the book spines. Look at all the DVD spines. Something is problematic. And we challenge you to find it. I don't know if I find any Dragon Quest stuff in Bob's room. I know what that composer said.

Yeah, it's like a fucked up Where's Waldo. We are big fans and it was so awesome to have you guys on thanks yeah thanks for having us thanks guys great seeing you guys again yeah we got to do this

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