Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Burns' Heir

Episode Date: June 28, 2017

After a brush with death, Mr. Burns decides to name an heir who isn't a girl or a geek. He ends up with Bart, who trades his family for a Bob Mackie original. Look, it'll all make sense once you listen.

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And this is the Lazer Time Podcast Network's chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who else is here with me today? A creature of pure malevolence, Henry Gilbert. And who else? Industrial chimney sweep, Chris Santista. And today's episode is Burns' Air. Wow! Bob Mackie! Hey, it's me. That's where it comes from. Yes, this episode is Burns' Air. Wow! Bob Mackie!

Hey, it's me. That's where it comes from. Yes, this episode made me famous briefly. No, I said your name. I know the kids in sixth grade were losing their shit. You stole my opening quote. I was going to do what my mom says. Oh, I'm sorry.

Yeah, you need to come prepared for two with two because I talk first. Today's episode, Burns' Air, aired on April 14th, 1994. And Chris will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history Oh my god Oh boy, Bobby, it's a big week in news, so this is going to be a little long Bridges of Madison County and Michael Crichton's Disclosure Receive some stiff competition from Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus And the bestseller list Pioneer Electronics announces a CD player exclusively for club DJs

So as to drive the death knell into the vinyl industry. The World Mourns Nirvana lead singer Kurt Cobain, Suicide, and Fox announces a high-profile, Aaron Spelling-produced, Melrose Place spinoff for the summer, Models, Inc.

Wow, it's the Greyhound's favorite cartoon of our favorite show. So many of these things will be referenced by The Simpsons in the next two years. Models, Inc., The Bridges of Madison County, Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus. These are all going to be references coming up. It's long, but I thought it was important to acknowledge Kurt Cobain. That was a very important moment in my little teenage life.

We won't have a Simpsons show that airs around Models Inc., but it is one of those jokes you'll never get. Because it was like 90210 and Melrose Place were kind of phenomenons. So they're like, Aaron Spelling, make another one. And then we'll have a marketing blitz to accompany this unlike before. And so the marketing blitz was way bigger than the show. It was. I remember seeing all the commercials and it felt like super cynically engineered. It's like sexy drama, but they're all models.

They're not just attractive people on camera. They're all models. They took out the pretense of high school in an apartment complex. I'm like, these are just all models. They're not just attractive people on camera. They're all models. They took out the pretense of high school in an apartment complex. I'm like, these are just fucking models. The primetime soap opera will take place with models. And one of the puppies thought it was one of the models, Inc. Yes. Now you know, people.

I'm catching you up. We lived through models, Inc., and we survived. I'll never mention it again. We have to in a year or so. And at 12, Kurt Cobain's death, I mean, it but i wasn't i wasn't cool i was listening to they might be giants i was not listening really i heard i obviously heard the the big hits of nevermind but honestly the in utero videos confused me it made me feel uncomfortable i was like i was very much into it and i remember it very well because i remember hearing the news but i'm still a pre-teen

caught up in my own business got somebody had one of those parties like a adult teenage party where someone hired a dj and it was at a spot there's no drinking right boys and girls were dancing and i danced with my first girl the day kurt cobain committed suicide so i wasn't thinking about it until i got home the next day and it's like mtv was just like no videos just we're talking about suicide and kurt cobain we were all told by kurt loder about it oh yeah i i just listened to this one of my favorite audiobooks again it was chuck closterman has this whole book called killing yourself to live where he goes on a road trip around america to go to all these different sites of where famous rockers died and he gets the kurt cobain one and he it's a very interesting section where he talks about how like people kind of forget who what

people felt about kurt cobain before he killed himself and that everybody's like, Nirvana sucks. Pearl Jam's where it's at. It sucks. Kurt Cobain, kind of a dick. Yeah, kind of. A bit, yeah.

He didn't have a great upbringing. But this week's episode is Burns' Heir. And this and I think Rosebud are the two greatest Mr. Burns episodes, both in the same season. And I conflate these two all the time even though they're very different because it's all about an old man reaching the end of his life and realizing he needs to do

something. Or find something or find some meaning or, you know, find some way to extend his legacy. But I love this episode. There's two great Burns-focused episodes in this season but it does feel like forever since he's been even mentioned. It felt that way. I mean, he was in Bart's Elephant. He was writing Stampy. But the last time he was in bart's elephant he was writing stampy yeah but

the last time he was a co-focus of an episode was the gambler episode he was running burns his casino but then it becomes a marge episode halfway through so burns kind of falls back but this is all i'm really happy to separate finally separate a lot of these gags and file them into the right episodes because this is not the episode where burns and smithers star in a sitcom the simpsons are watching that's right this is the episode where the simpsons star in a sitcom that burns is watching yes that's true it's very confusing i do mix these up from time to time that is that's true it is a very like changed focus once you switch the focus from homer to burns in the very opening it's like you are from burns's vision on the Simpsons,

not the other way around. Yeah, and we're both looking at it from the perspective of Burns having endless money to buy up the airways. This one opens with Homer winning something that he thinks he would want, the employee raffle, which I have to think it's all engineered by Burns because he's watching Homer as an industrial chimney sweep, so it's just to make

him suffer it's not practical it's just torture it's it's torturing an employee so burns can watch it from his bathtub with a big bag of extra fancy potato chips because it does seem too pedestrian or too low class for burns to eat potato chips so they have to be labeled as extra it's just that is literally a label they ascribe to things now extra fancy fancy ketchup is still a thing but extra fancy is something that so i think at the time that joke was it was an actual joke and i think he's wearing a top hat in the bathtub too well it's like gray poupon of chips but i think of that joke so much too when i think of bosses not working half as hard as you of when homer says the guys at the top must be working even harder and then cut to

burns in a bathtub eating fancy chips saying like well five o'clock never come i mean our guy at the top in america has had more vacation days than most of us get in a decade yep yeah yeah so there you have it so he's enjoying all those workouts he's getting on the golf course but he's gonna drain his battery okay but speaking of a rich asshole burns almost drowned yes as in blood feud he has a near-death experience he figured these they would stop having any effect on him hey this isn't such a great prize oh well this may be a dirty job but the big guys at the top work even harder. Will five o'clock never come?

Careful, Smithers. That sponge has corners, you know. I'll go find a spherical one. Help, Smithers. I'm sinking. I'm sinking. I'm sinking. Life lashing before my eyes. Is it Burns Verkoff and their craft work where we see Smithers bathing Burns and talking to him with Snappy the alligator?

He's only washing his hair. Okay. It is not as intimate. And also he is helping Burns bathe when Marge paints him. Oh, yeah, you're right. But this is him just literally in a bathtub being bathed by him. And the corners of a sponge will kill Mr. Burns. That's how fragile he is.

And we were talking the other day off mic about how Harry Shearer's, let's say, dickishness towards the Simpsons has led to... I do watch a lot of the modern day episodes, and he is incredibly diminished. Oh, yeah. He says maybe one line in an episode, there's no more Burns-focused episodes. But it also means for years, there has been no Burns is weak jokes. Those have not happened in maybe a decade. I'm speculating there, but there's not enough time to focus on him anymore. But in every episode we see now, Burns is so weak, he's brought down by paper household items.

He can't give a thumbs up, he's so weak. I'm surprised just having that top hat on his head didn't sink him underwater. Just the extra weight of the sponge. It's too heavy. I do like how he just jumps out of the water and immediately starts strangling Smithers. And the flashbacks were cute. I thought they dipped back more into the Citizen Kane-ness of his upbringing. They really didn't.

The first two are, though, him being a baby, seemingly a baby of means, of like, no, no, no. He was born in a wood shed with Bobo. So somebody should pay for that, Blender. This episode is beautiful, though. I believe David Silverman directed the first act, and he just had too much to do, and Mark Kirkland took over. But it all looks good. But if you look at the scene where Burns is firing at the man's feet,

look at the background that they drew for a five-second scene. It is so elaborate and gorgeous. I was just in awe of these brief glimpses of beauty in this episode. And then we get a Greenpeace reference, which I wonder if it was directed as Sam Simon or not, or if they were thinking like Sam Simon later in life, the late Sam Simon, who was a co-creator of the series or co-developer. I forget exactly how he's credited. He always made money off the Simpsons, even though he left in season four. But so he then gave a ton to Greenpeace.

Like they own they own ships thanks to him. Yeah. Anti-whaling ships. Yeah. greenpeace like they own they own ships thanks to him yeah anti-whaling ships yes yeah well actually the director of this episode on the commentary mark kirkland was saying i noticed we get a lot more of these hippie flavor jokes after david merkin took over david merkin is a big hippie too i mean he's the reason why we have lisa the vegetarian oh wait did we say who wrote this episode jace richdale jace richdale and which i i rarely get into this part of it and you guys

do i like that's not a name i'm familiar, and it's his sole Simpsons writing credit. Most notably, he's the creator of the Oblongs. Well, he's the TV guy they brought on to work with the Oblong guy. Yes, the co-creator of the Oblongs. The unnamed Oblong guy. Angus Oblong? Angus Oblong, who appears in public in clown makeup. Wow, I had no idea.

His Wikipedia does not say his real name. Weird, I didn't know that. Yeah, Jace Richdale's been all over TV. Even though he has one credited script on The Simpspsons he wrote a ton of jokes for two or three seasons so i mean he's all over this era mike judge is the good family as well as got nominated for a writer's guild award for an episode of dexter oh a very versatile writer i thought you know that's something we should should do a one-off of someday in the long off future the good family like i never watched it but it was supposed to be the commercials look so interesting it's the inverse of king of the hill it is the king of

the hill format except it's well actually a hyper green here it's yeah it's like what it's one of the three or four voices mike judge can do that he repurposes i mean i'm not complaining those voices are great no one hank hill is so unique yes instead of hank hill being the repurposing of the beavis but it's neighbor they rep Instead of Hank Hill being the repurposing of the Beavisbutthead's neighbor, they repurposed the teacher into being the hyper hippie dad. Mr. Van Driesen. Yes, that's right. You know, you mentioned clowns, Chris, and

they mistook Burns for a clown. Alright, we're finally going to stop those corporate pigs from dumping that nuclear waste. Oh no, our boat is sinking. It was I, you fools. I love that reading. The man you trusted isn't wavy gravy at all.

And all this time I've been smoking harmless tobacco. And Bert just swims away. Yeah. He has like some virility or like some power. It looks like some cold water. Yeah. He's like 60 there, I think. Yeah, Bats.

In case you don't know who wavy gravy i would not get this joke until this summer when they did woodstock 94 and i'm watching with my father on pay-per-view i feel old just saying that taping the whole thing only leaving to go watch the crow in theaters this was my life in 1994 uh and wavy gravy comes out to open up the show and my dad who is wavy Gravy? He's like, ugh. Okay, let me try and explain who Wavy Gravy is to a child. This will make no sense. I thought it was a Ben and Jerry's flavor.

It was. It was. That's how I knew Wavy Gravy. It was. Wavy Gravy had to be explained to all of us by our parents then. But his short version is that he was a peacenik in the 60s who was fighting for the end of the Vietnam War. But he also was a dork who liked magic. And he said that he got arrested less when he went in clown makeup.

So he became the hippie clown at protests and activist stuff. Yeah, kind of like what Homer did in the Lollapalooza episode Wavy Gravy would do for the Grateful Dead. Well, so he became the Grateful Dead's official clown. That's on his wiki page. And the official clown of the Grateful Dead. And his official website Wavy Gravy.net people, do not get it confused.

You might end up at an actual gravy store. The actual gravy distributors. And he's also like he hasn't done cartoons. Like he, on his IMDb page, he's only appeared in, like, three documentaries. So it seems like he's one of those guys, like, I'm not going to sell out on my celebrity. This is important. I really love the over-the-top hippie voices.

Oh, no, our boat is sinking. Boat is sinking. In the episode, I Married Marge, it's established that the power plant opens in 1980. But every episode conflicts with that. Like, Burns is, like, a nuclear power guy when Homer's mom is fighting him and things like that. And this conflicts with that like burns is a like a nuclear power guy when homer's mom is fighting him and things like that and this conflicts with it too i'm just thinking that bit of history just kind of goes against everything that's true well i mean monty burns back when he had the strength to do it he he just went off everywhere he's kind of like a scrooge mcduck

figure honestly like he just goes and has adventures forget what that type of character is called but when they have endless financial resources to finance globetrotting adventures everywhere. And also, speaking of things that had to be explained to me, I did not recognize a bong and didn't know that the implied joke there is that Burns made them think he was smoking weed when he was smoking tobacco. Harmless tobacco. Wonderful.

That's a perfect undercut, such a subversive joke to be like, tobacco is way worse for you than weed. That is the extra joke you get there. That's great. And they let you understand it on your own. They don't have to explain it. What I really like that comes up next, Burns is talking about he never fathered an heir because of his hectic schedule and lethargic sperm. And Smithers will be buried alive with him.

Yes. Oh, goody. Yes. I love that he made sure to be like, no, no, Smithers, the Smithers doll should be scared that he was about to be buried alive. And he's like, ah. And it was one of those rare moments that implied that Smithers was there for any reason other than just a real love for Burns.

When he goes like, mm-hmm. I mean, being buried alive, I think, supersedes his love of Burns. Oh, no, no, no. The fear of being buried alive, I think, supersedes his love of Burns. Oh, no, no, no. The fear of being buried alive. I mean that it implied that he, has he been friendly to Burns this whole time in hopes of getting his money? You know, is he always into Burns' money? I think he still is a Burns-osexual, but the money would be nice, too. But this is one of those rare things where it's just like, is he up for Burns' money?

I bet he gets paid really poorly. Yes. You've seen his apartment. It's okay. Yes. Well, then again, maybe he's just pouring all that money to his malibu stacy collection oh yeah yeah by the way i will reference that again later in here but him popping out of the water too like where'd he get this second wind from to yeah sponge is removed uh yes sponge flops off and then he has all this power to strangle strers with the strength of Homer strangling Bart.

That's great animation, too. So we have up next a scene in a movie theater. Siskel and Ebert the movie, which is an okay joke. Two thumbs up, Siskel and Ebert. I'll tell you what. When I saw Life Itself, the Ebert documentary, it had that joke on the marquee. Two thumbs up, Siskel and Ebert, underneath Life Itself. I wish it had been two thumbs down, Siskel and Ebert.

That would be a funnier joke mixed thumbs so this thx parody was reanimated into a real thx promo and when i saw when i saw a movie from like 1994 to 1997 or something i was delighted to see a little simpsons joke before the start of the movie yeah and that would happen animated it in the style of the simpsons well in widescreen yeah they did it widescreen yeah they paid for it like toons? In widescreen. Yeah, they did it widescreen. They did. They paid for it to reanimate widescreen, or to at least reformat the view on it. But in case you don't know, that is the THX Deep Note. THX was a sound system invented by Lucasfilm to better present sound on films, and the Deep Note.

And VHS. Yes. It works. Yeah, I think it's not a machine or equipment. It's a certification. Before anyone corrects us. And the first time the Deep Note showed up was at the premiere of

Return of the Jedi in 1983. I was so used to seeing the movie version of this that this one went by too quick for me. It's maybe five or seven seconds longer in the reanimated version. They let the gag sit a little bit longer, but they're all the same and they're all there. Turn it up! Turn it up!

It's crazy that they would keep in the gag that the head explodes i love that it's an on-screen death in the simpsons which feels like a line to cross but it was so fast of just like teeth shatter heads explode and it was something as a kid i didn't love that thx sound it was it was it was it was meant to be intentionally jarring as in this this can only be done with this process. Yeah, it played before the Simpsons movie. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Every time Grandpa Simpson said, turn it up, everyone in the theater laughed. Every time that promo played.

It's a great joke, though. Turn it up. I have to tell you, Tiny Toons did this joke two years earlier. Yeah, I confuse these two all the time. God damn it. Back when I first got the internet, the best thing you could do is download Simpsons waves and waves of things that you loved. And if we didn't say it, the THX is named after George Lucas' student film gone good, THX 1138. Wasn't it filmed at our local BART stations?

Yeah. Those are our train stations, by the way. It was a student film that then became a real film starring Robert Duvall. It was in the Tiny Toons direct-to-video movie, How I Spent My Summer Vacation. Oh, boy, this is good. The most gorgeous Tiny Toons has ever looked. This is like a Studio Ghibli version of Tiny Toons. Yes, and it's by TMS, their best animation team.

But this is the exact same joke two years earlier. Guy! The sound system promo! The audience is now dead. I think I had downloaded a wave that combined the two. Oh, awesome. Yeah, instead of THX, it was THUD. That's what our listeners couldn't see.

Thud, and made by Mucus Film. Oh, I get it. I get it. That's a bit spicy for my Tiny Toons movie. So we have to talk about this reference that was even lost to time in 1994. Well, all right. I didn't know this either. But so Burns is just in a field talking about his heir to everybody. And why don't we play the clip first?

Hello, I am Montgomery Burns. Now then, I'm looking for a suitable young male heir to leave my fortune to when I pass away. My vast, vast, vast fortune. Vast. Auditions will be tomorrow at my estate. And now, a feature presentation. Oh, for... Very well. be tomorrow at my estate and now a feature presentation oh for very well let's all go to the lobby let's all go to the lobby let's all go to the lobby get ourselves some snacks good dancing by burns this is this did not go over my head at the time because i was very much obsessed

with this wow this hyper obscure reference at this point yeah i mean i knew what they were referencing but i'm like wow this is like really obscure especially 18 months later after the film had bombed horribly yeah so the film is toys it was a mega bomb it's a mega passion project between robin williams and his uh frequent co-collaborator barry sonnenfeld it's a movie about a Robin Williams runs a toy factory with a robotic Joan Cusack and a militarily inclined LL Cool J. His brother ends up inheriting his toy company and turning it into something that

manufactures military video games. It is visually unforgettable. Yeah, it looks great. I saw it as a kid in theaters, but I didn't know what to think. I'll stand up for that movie forever. It seemed to understand video games a little more than most other films at the time because they clearly made an engine that made a video game. It wasn't a

cartoon showing a video game. I remember magazines like, is this a real thing? This looks like a convincing video game. At the same time, toys got a bunch of fucking video games. And they're all bad. They're all bad. So it was a very unconventional movie with a very unconventional trailer. Maybe Henry can explain what the trailer was. So just the a very unconventional movie with a very unconventional trailer. Maybe Henry can explain what the trailer was.

So just the same as Burns is standing in a field in that costume, Robin Williams in his character costume from Toys, though pretty much playing Robin Williams, is Robin Williams telling you about the movie in just a field somewhere. And it's just like, set up a camera in a field, just riff away, Robin. He's literally standing in the, I want to speculate the windows xp background because robin williams is a north bay dude and not to get we cannot get too far into this because i've done it on a bunch of other laser times but this is this movie was part of the fallout with

robin williams and disney over aladdin because he had been trying to get this movie made with barry sonnenfeld the whole time which is why this trailer is so weird and there's two of them that's just robin williams yeah riffing in a field because this was his passion project yes that to me was looked like it was shot on his home turf just him being him it's a very unconventional trailer for something he was really proud of and he had to dye his hair blonde repeatedly according to this trailer though he says he's inside a giant soundstage i don't know if that's a joke okay i couldn't tell like maybe he is let's hear some of it i don't know about you, but that last trailer.

I've seen it, you know, fast-cutting, big music. What about a different kind of trailer? I'm Robin Williams, here on the world's largest soundstage at 20th Century Fox. That's right. This entire wheat field is in one building. I'm here tonight to talk to you about an incredible movie toys toys trailer toys there'll be a big lettered thing up here above me glowing obviously some incredible special effect that'll go i mean okay i was stupid for thinking it was a fake feel.

I don't know why. I love it. Listening to our other shows where I've talked about why he was mad at Disney over Aladdin because Robin Williams for the trailers is literally standing

as himself hyping a movie. This is how much behind Toys he was and he blamed its failure on Disney marketing Aladdin as a Robin Williams movie at the exact same time. Yes.

One of the promises they promised not to do with their handshake deal where he got 75 grand to be the genie in Aladdin. And please do not market this against our Toys movie. I want this Toys movie to succeed. Though, honestly, Toys wouldn't have succeeded no matter what he did.

Either way. But it didn't help that Aladdin was the better Robin Williams film. It's an incredibly ambitious film and it's incredibly watchable too, but not what you'd call good. It's weird as hell. And this means a lot to me, this bit, because in high school i was friends with a huge simpsons nerd like i was and we would just see each other in the hallway and just say fast and that'd be it that'd be the joke yeah and then the end of the burns clip i never saw let's go to the lobby never real one but i i'd only see it later when it was parody shit and like the

Aqua Teen Hunger Force thing had a great one in it and it's in Grindhouse they basically have that we saw the fancier ones when we were kids of like no it's a polygonal popcorn exploding you're on a roller coaster of snacks all the messages were the same buy shit

go buy snacks it's awesome that yes this one has been replaced, but this still exists in every movie theater you go to. Everybody knows this song. And Burns says snacks instead of treats, but I don't know why.

Maybe they're just misremembering. Let's hear the original. Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat delicious things to eat the popcorn can't be beat the sparkling drinks are just dandy the chocolate bars and the candy so let's all go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat let's all yeah enough of that what i want to speculate is that

this lasted so long in the pop culture zeitgeist because i want to say it was played in drive-ins for much longer than it would have played in normal theater probably it was just like your stock uh go to the lobby announcement you could buy i think what killed those videos too is that like you didn't see a coca-cola yeah finance is all amcs yeah you've definitely seen it it is weird to see a refreshments commercial that isn't coca-cola you know and like the dad and it is drinking out of a nondescript cup just a cup and just like in the uh the actual source material burns is dancing with a bunch of refreshments and stuff but they're people in costumes not cartoon characters the lip sync is better yes in in the simpsons than it is in the

original one so no one knows a lot about where this animation came from other than that it was done by dave fleischer uh fleischer studios uh playing your benny boop and floppy and floppy like uh fleischer but yeah what year and where it originated is very flimsy wow interesting one last joke i liked in the trailer bit is Homer's reaction to seeing Burns. He screams like Burns just walked into the room. And he's like, ah! Also, Burns can sense that no one is reacting within the trailer. That's why he goes, fast.

Fast. Look at the wiki. There's a joke about this in the brand new Injustice 2. Oh, wow. As of right now. That's how long this joke has lasted. I mean, it's all in our brains. From 1950 to 2017. And I don't think I've ever seen this on a movie screen. Oh, wow. As of right now. That's how long this joke has lasted. From 1950 to 2017. And I don't think I've ever seen this on a movie screen.

I never have. I've seen parodies. You see this interstitials in between commercials that use stock footage. I think in Grindhouse they did put it in. In the four hour presentation of Grindhouse, it is in there. I only see old movies in theaters now since I live in the big city, but I think I've seen this spliced in for fun. Just like, here's a fun

little interstitial for you to watch. That's the only time I've city, but I think I've seen this spliced in for fun. Just like here's a fun little like, you know, interstitial for you to watch. So that's the only time I've seen it, I think. So then we go to Burns's place. And first off, it's in the Lillian Langtree Theater. I looked it up. Okay. Well, you tell us. Lillian Langtree, 1853 to 1929.

She was a starlet of the stage, and she was known for dating noblemen and close friends with Oscar Wilde. Wow. So a very famous starlet of her time of course burns would be in love with her yes it's again died in 1929 so even here to think burns is just 80 then he would have fallen in love with her when she was like when when she was 80 yes so it's a great old timey joke there i think they're subtly aging up Burns a bit. Oakley Weinstein, they are such devotees to the Simpsons canon. But when they made him 104 in Homer the Smithers, I was like, no, no, no. He'd been like 81 just a few seasons ago.

Yeah, that was revelation. But I was like, he is appropriately 104. He should be 104. I prefer 104-year-old Burns. But I'm just saying, if you care about the canon. I think if you date him from what we saw in Rosebud, he would be in his 90s, based on how old George Burns was compared to him. His taste in boxing and baseball would put him as born in the early 1800s.

He'd be 170. He was a fan of the Negro Leagues. He claims to see sporting events that were never televised. So then the kids are all auditioning, which leads to my favorite Milhouse line ever. I think this is, I've said it a number of times, half ironically. I have nothing to offer you but my love.

I specifically said no geeks. But my mom says I'm cool. Next. Give me your fortune or I'll pound your withered old face in. Oh, I like his energy. Put him on the callback list. Clang, clang, clang with the trolley.

Ring, ring, ring with the bell. Zing, zing, zing with my heartstrings. Thank you. I love the sound of the wind getting knocked out. So. We're just, thank you. Well, off, but my mom says I'm cool. I love that line. And it is, it is what a dork says that he's like, who has no friends. It's just like, but my mom says I'm cool.

Henry, once again, coming out his millhouse. I mean, I tweeted when I got to sit with the millhouse at universal Orlando and I tweeted out the picture of it. I said, our moms think we're cool and my mom took that picture this is what it's like when doves cry uh so this song obviously it is a gay joke because martin is singing a uh a show tune yeah but it is also super gay it's a show tune about falling in love with a man you see on the trolley well he got punched in the stomach before you heard if he changes the gender i bet he didn't yeah i don't think he would have but yeah but his outfit is of the of the trolley. Well, he got punched in the stomach before you heard if he changes the gender. I bet he didn't. Yeah, I don't think he would have.

But his outfit is of the trolley conductor, though the singer is a young lady who has fallen in love with a man on the way to the World's Fair, the 1904 World's Fair. It's true. This is from the musical Meet Me in St. Louis, and the movie version with a beautiful young Judy Garland before Hollywood destroyed

her. It's on its way to destroy her, but she hasn't been destroyed yet. I love this song so much. And she's probably hopped up on goofballs singing this song. Clang, clang, clang went the trolley. Ding, ding, ding went the bell. Zing, zing, zing

went my heart strings. From the moment I saw him, I fell. I want to skip that. Stop went the wheels. Stop when the wheels stop. Stop when my heart strings. As he started to go, then I started to know how it feels. All right, Henry. This is not...

When the universe freaks. Are you Milhouse or Martin Prince? Which one is it? A little common, eh? A little common. I'm both of them. That's my secret. I want to say this was like a nostalgia piece for the early 20th century.

It was made like in the 30s, like the original musical, something like that. Well, it was written for the movie. It was an original movie musical. Oh, I didn't know that. It was not based on a musical. Okay, but it's still like a nostalgia piece for that era of America. That's the second most famous song in the movie. The Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas is also in that house.

Oh, that's from Meet Me in St. Louis. Wow. Okay. I'm going to say Louis because that's how the song goes. Louis? Meet Me in St. Louis. Meet Me at the Fair. But that song was nominated for Best Song that year at the Oscars and lost to Swing

from a Star. If you like this movie, carry moonbeams home. That would be the theme for a really bad sitcom in the 80s. I love the trolley song, and this is my introduction to it. Though it's also let me know that if you're a man singing a song, you're gay and should be punched. It's a weird message to send. Well, the bullies are wrong for bullying him. You are supposed to laugh at the bullying, and it's sad that Martin gets punished.

The constant jokes are like, Martin's's gay and he's a gay kid who doesn't realize how gay he is perhaps. I think they're on Martin's side. It's like the cruel reality of life. They won't let him be gay. They won't let him be effeminate. Yeah, but can you at least take some solace in how far we've come? Because now that joke is ascribed to like if you were unironically singing a Smash Mouth song

and enjoying yourself, then you would be punched in 2017. Yes, that's true. It would not be yourself then you would be punched in 2017 yes that's true it would not be a musical that would be mocked now but uh but i mean you could not in 1994 you could not have a gayer reference than a judy garland song being sung yes i think it would change up a little more later well we do get next uh bart auditioning and i think this is homer at a stupidest where you cannot put a sentence together and he forgets his boss's name. Well, oh, the first off, Lisa says she, in our phallocentric society, and then Burns says, I don't know what phallocentric means. Miriam Webster describes it as centered on or emphasizing the masculine viewpoint. So that's what phallocentric means.

And a phallus is a dick-shaped object. That also Burns, Burns is true he did say no girls in the trailer he said male air I see he made it very clear but then okay wait no we also have to talk about Lee Majors I didn't get Lee Majors in this clip so I love that clip Marge I like that Marge

for once is like you know we should just get his money so you can go to a good school and it felt like one of the Dave Merkin is one of the rare showrunners who you can go to a good school yeah and it felt like one of the dave merkin is one of the rare showrunners who did not go to harvard that's true simpsons so when he's making fun of harvard i wonder if he's just like that's all these fucking harvard guys around me i'm sick of this shit and so the line of like went to the most expensive and therefore best school there is i feel like it's also a very naive mom viewpoint where it's like of course this is the best school

it costs the most money it's harvard and i like that marge is thirsty for lee major yes i like that that it gives her something extra instead of just being the mom who says i care about money i care about the groceries i care about my kids she's also like she's been in love with lee major since her childhood yeah and in case you're not 50 we should tell you lee majors is the six million dollar man when six million dollars was a lot of money yeah and that was a show in the 70s. And the intro will tell you what happened. Steve Austin. Astronaut.

What? A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Steve Austin will be that man. So yeah, they rebuild a broken astronaut

and that's basically it. Our tax dollars are getting wasted right there. And Marge was obsessed with Kathleen Turner's former husband. And well, that's six million dollars. That's getting wasted right there. And Marge was obsessed with Kathleen Turner's former husband. Oh, yeah. And, well, that $6 million, that's nothing in government waste. I'm not going to tell you about that. They'd buy a hammer with that money. But I love the, I also like that when they have the sound effect the second time, it's slightly quieter.

Because you're, like, hearing it out. It's so loud, you're hearing it from inside Marge's head. And it was the rare moment of people staring at Marge and them going like, what are you doing? And then just moving on, yeah. But then Homer gives Bart a script to read in his audition and it is like the stupidest Homer has been. Homer maybe has a second grade level of reading skills to write this. Marge really should have went over this card

seeing as she believed in this idea. Hello, Mr. Kearns I bad want Money now Me sick So pick please Me Mr. Burns It's Kearns stupid

No it's not Disregard It's Kearns It's more like ooh he card read good yeah i want to get my own line of the show oh all right fine well my line of the show was my mom says i'm cool but i didn't do the audio for this one but the boot kicking bart all the work needed for it and the bart would seriously just stand there still while it all happened all of all of burns's uh traps require you to be in a very specific place well and it's

a pretty i never read it as a callback until this viewing but bart being told move a little to the left to be kicked by the boot he will tell burns to do the same thing at the end of the episode that's a nice callback so it's a nice kind of revenge on bart's part though he already got his revenge yeah uh but oh actually you know what this homer's that's my line of the show yeah okay well That's a nice callback. So it's a nice kind of revenge on Bart's part, though he already got his revenge. Yeah. But, oh, actually, you know what? This Homer's lesson here. That's my line of the show. Yeah, okay.

Well, let's play that jingle again, then. That's the joke. I think of this whenever I fail. I think Bart and Lisa are feeling a little upset right now. Isn't there something you'd like to say? There sure is. Kids, you tried your best best and you failed miserably. The lesson is

never try. Never try. I revealed how I, when I was quiet for a year and sort of talked, I kind of talked like that. I need to unlearn that lesson though.

Like I took that as too seriously as a kid. I was like, well, I know Homer's bad, but maybe you should never try. What if you fail? Trying rules. I think, I mean,

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That's true. The second will be Lenny bringing up the egg thing. In Stonecutters, Homer doesn't let Lenny eat an egg egg and he tells him that cholesterol actually isn't as bad as eggs and i finally was able to finally pinpoint it so there was no egg council board in america it was the american egg aboard which invented the incredible edible egg i always think of the intentionally bad Mr. Show joke of Bob Oden here going, the incredible edible rump roast, which is not a joke, but it's funny in how it's not a joke. It's just a lame thing somebody would say at a dinner party. The Egg Council was created then because eggs were getting a bad rap lately,

because cholesterol was then the bad thing in the health craze. And it was like, well, eggs are pure cholesterol. And so as has happened with pork and beef and tons of other things, cheese, you'll get all these ads that are just like, please just buy this thing that nobody directly owns. To me, it's incredible and says something about the opulence and longevity of those industries. That milk and pork at this

period just had advertisements for nobody's product in particular just please keep doing this we have a lot of money to spend well in beefs and milk too but in beefs case case they were doing it because of the oprah mad cow stuff i was trying to find incredible edible eggs that bring up the cholesterol thing and i finally did uh most of the ones i found were for kids but this one finally addresses the the cholesterol thing 1989 government research shows eggs have 22 percent less cholesterol than we thought oh you gotta love it be incredible holy shit eggs are safe again people come back to the eggs and i found that on a great youtube video which is 30 minutes of commercials from october 28th 1993 wow you had to dig pretty deep but they're all

from local it's all from local in new york so it's national commercials and it goes to ruda giuliani is running a new campaign like it's but anyway i i could just fall down that rabbit hole like oh god watch 30 minutes of old commercial so there's one other egg council joke that they cut it was in itchy and scratchy the movie where homer is lamenting what bart will become and he says judge at a mr type buns competition the original line was on the board of the egg council and they cut the joke because it didn't read correctly people are like the egg council what's that i remember yeah that's right mr type buns competition is kind of fun it's a funnier joke i think i i don't know why

the egg council be evil but uh there you go they were just sick of the egg council in the simpsons writing room too much egg propaganda uh and i like that burns refuses to accept that that rock isn't a bird it's like well let's see what the people of the lab say about that and then bart is getting his revenge and he's having some pretty like fun dennis the menacey revenge on him it's really elaborate on the on the moment prank to spur the moment and i love him pulling the my favorite is the no solicitor sign and then the solicitors 20 of them immediately show up with like mops and briefcases that's when he decides to make bart is there there's a christmas carol joke which even as a kid i got i got that one tell what day it is

and bart concusses smithers and burns doesn't give a shit within three minutes of this episode two people collapse like a pile of bricks with amazing foley it's just great it sounds so painful and homer will do it later in this episode oh my god yeah a lot of concussions happening in this and so once burns has made it official the family is ready to celebrate just sign here and your son will stand to inherit my entire estate we're rich art get over to the mansion and open up all the windows you want to get the old people smell out before we move in dad mr burns hasn't passed away yet huh oh? Oh, right. So I guess you're in okay shape, huh? No heart problems or anything? Really? Boo!

Oh, yes! I'm okay. What a cheat that they have. Abe just said, I'm okay. Well, the funny thing is, he's standing with them when Burns leaves, like two seconds later, so he really is okay. I wonder if they had to put that in and be like, no, no, he really is okay i wonder if they had to put that in and be like no no he really is okay yeah like the that homer homer tries to kill burns like that's but

then again i mean it's burns i i don't it's okay i think for homer to do that and homer has another pusher down son like let's put let's push him down the stairs push him down the stairs though the stalking chef bear boy rd joke i think that's a little cheap it is a little cheap but i do like how homer and bret hart don't like old man stink in their homes that's true you gotta air that out of burns's mansion i agree and then but just homer's like let's push him down the stairs like he's so happy to do that so bart goes humors mr burns goes to his house and eats there and i like that burns just has a button on his chair to lock up a person who's eating with him. And then he calls himself a booger man. Booger man.

Not a boogie man. One joke I got for the first time or just noticed for the first time was like, oh, your milk is getting cold. He was drinking warm milk with his dinner. Oh, my God. I didn't get that. That is such an old man thing. It really is. It helps with your digestion.

Oh, my God. I didn't get that. That is such an old man thing. It really is. It helps with your digestion. Oh, my God. I know this because when I go home, my parents serve me milk. I drink it and then shit down my pants. Oh, yeah. Not in my pants. Down. I give up milk, too. No, I agree.

I had some milk. I had some ice cream last night and woke up with stomach issues. I was like, boy, I got to stop with this ice cream. I just kind of got to drop it. Very strange. Oh, also, this is when I found out that gelatin was made with hooves. And though it never really sunk in until I had a vegetarian friend when I was 18. And I would just say, okay, we're going to eat this.

And she would say, well, is there gelatin in it? I was like, what? Well, who cares? Like, it's gelatin. That's not animals. She's like, there's cow hooves in it. Anything with gelatin, yeah. And obviously, as a younger person, I was one of many people that question a vegetarian's choice every time they say they don't want to eat something.

And just like, all right, you're on trial right now. Like, are you sure you don't want to eat this? I think you should. I got to tell you, as a vegetarian, we love that. So you eat that, but you won't eat that? Yes, it's my decision. I know you thought this was a dinner, but this is a trial. Objection.

What about my diet bothers you so much? What I like about the Burns thing is he says it's made of hooves as if it would be more appealing to Bart. Like, oh, it's so good. It's got hooves in it. We probably should have looked up what gelatin was made of before that. Was it even grosser? He seems to think that gelatin also is like a crazy new thing like oh kids love gelatin and so then part then bart says what he would really want is when bart discovers

the benefits of being of having mr burns's bankroll if you stay you can have anything you want to eat even some sort of gelatin dish it's's made from hooves, you know. Anything, huh? Okay. I want pizza. And I want it delivered by Krusty the Clown. Hey, it's Krusty the Pizza Man. All right, where's my 400 bucks? Hey, wait.

How can you be here when your show's on live? I just threw on an old rerun. No one will know the difference. Children, remain calm. The Falkland Islands have just been invaded. I repeat, the Falklands have just been invaded. The disputed islands lie here, off the coast of Argentina. I love that Krusty. So that was April 2nd, 1982. Quite an old rerun.

I still love it because the joke's awesome, but it's not even the oldest clip of Krusty we've seen. No, no. I mean, at that time, I feel like Bozo the Clown could have also pulled up any episode from 20 years of his history. Anything in color. Yeah. Let's see what that adventure's Popeye gets into. The only difference you would have told in a Bozo

episode is just like, well, that kid's wearing a t-shirt a kid today wouldn't wear. That kid has an evil Knievel shirt, and they'd be wearing an Optimus Prime shirt. And it's funny that A, he has a map ready, but B, he's telling the children to remain calm. This would affect no one in America. It was a small-scale conflict between the United Kingdom and

Argentina over land. It was at the end of the decline of the British Empire. It's one of the few things they had left. in america it was a small scale conflict between the united kingdom and argentina over over over land it was like the at the end of the decline of the british empire it's like one of the few things they had left it was a 10-week war argentina lost and uh but it was it was a time when like small operations like that were seen as like oh that's what wars are i guess i guess this replaces world wars we're just gonna see these little things, like these smaller things, which are not deadly. People died in them. But this and Afghanistan, they were like side wars as opposed to the Iraq War, which was a war-ass war.

And will never end. Yeah, like all wars, will never end. Yes. We're still in South Korea, ain't we? Up next, we have another lost time reference, a reference to the movie Sliver from 1993 that I recall watching this. It was a very eye-opening moment for young Bob.

It was a very horny movie. Yes, I recorded it in Rewound and Fast Forward. Yeah, I mean, Sharon Stone, right after Basic Instinct, her next sexy thriller, if you will. Sliver came at the very weird... This happened several times where erotic thrillers came back into theaters this there was a thing in the 70s where there were films like emmanuel and the story of oh

there were just these like foreign films that were sexy and basically were the equivalent of skin and max film then and sliver just was skin and max with a budget and then skin and max film would just rip off all the sh Stone films and so after Basic Instinct this was her next one and it was voyeurism the movie and it was an erotic thriller of like watching people have sex or take baths and

you want to watch Alec Baldwin's brother jerk off to security camera footage set to Enigma music. Which Baldwin is this? Billy Baldwin. The worst Baldwin I'd say. The lost Baldwin, yeah. I mean, Alec's not so much better. Even if you vote closer to how I would vote. Alec's way better. You're probably thinking of Stephen.

Oh, Stephen. Stephen's pretty crap too. Who's the Biodome guy? Stephen. Okay. I get Billy and Biodome mixed up. Was it Stephen or William who was on 30 Rock playing Alec Baldwin in a movie or playing Jack Donaghy in a movie? I don't know. That could have been Danny. He looks the most like him.

But in this movie, the Baldwin in question has basically a camera in every room in this high... He's a landlord at a high-end apartment. Yeah, in New York. And he's watching Sharon Stone. And one of the things I will say about it, ladies love these movies. And this is one of those movies that had a much more famous

soundtrack and has a bunch of it looks like one of my girlfriend's playlists at this point ub40 oh wow you're right yeah enigma i wasn't joking about that that really happened i feel like showgirl this was also written by this was also written by joe oh you're right yeah it was he for a brief period was the superstar film a script writer like script writers are never famous but everybody was like it would be the story in variety they paid x millions of dollars to joe esterhouse for his next thing yeah and that eventually collapsed when they paid the most money for showgirls that's what it was a mega flop and and it was i mean showgirls also ended

these erotic thrillers that are in theaters. And I think people realize, like, the people who jerk off to this don't want to be in a regular movie theater watching this. They want to watch it on premium cable channels and jerk off at night. Or wait until it comes to HBO or whatever. I did. Exactly. That's what they were for. And you didn't need big budget things for that. And it also became a thing of, like like actresses on the level of sharon

stone they you either needed to find a famous actress who was like yeah i'll be naked for 20 minutes or you had to find act non-famous actresses who would be naked that it was it was a pointed topic at the time what's sharon stone's first movie going to be without a nude scene even when it was like dead i believe even when it was like inappropriate like the Dead I believe Even when it was like Inappropriate like We don't want to see No one wants to see Sylvester Stallone Fuck anybody I know I don't You got to see a bit

Of his penis In that other movie What was that one Specialist You're welcome That's right yes Thank you Go out and rent it today folks

For some reason I remember Stallone Being in Sliver But yeah Couched in the Sliver references Are then two other Movie references

That's true Are you talking to me There's no movie that's true are you talking to me there's no one else here you must be talking to me well that was an antique crap mo does a scene from taxi driver yes mo is very much uh in in the simpsons he is a travis bickle character a dangerous loner who hates everyone simmering madman this is the actual clip and if you'll notice like it is much more low-key than any impression of it ever is all the impressions are so we're gonna say but what i always say about edward g robinson like you never did that he was much he was much more subdued as talking to me you talking to me that's how you seen this impression done it's nothing like this is dirty grandpa himself

in 1976 you talking to me you talking to me you're talking to me you're talking to me well who the hell say you're talking talking to me well i'm the only one here who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Finally has power with that gun. Yeah. He's got guns on like drawer rollers up his sleeves that he can thrust out.

A lot of copycat criminals do that. I mean, to this day. I mean, I think the entire gun industry is based off of this attitude that everyone is after you and you must protect yourself at all costs with lethal force. Even if you have to destroy your antique mirror. Yes. Ah, crap. Ah, crap. you and you must protect yourself at all costs with lethal force even if you destroy your antique mirror yes ah crap crap this is the power that travis pickle and mo feels when they buy a gun and you know actually the reaction to taxi driver is why martin scorsese it's when he made it's why he made king of comedy because he saw that there were travis pickle imitators which he absolutely

did not want to create with taxi driver and so then he wanted to show a different type of crazy obsessive, but the biggest loser in the world who lives in his mom's basement. He's like, no, these are the people. You're not Travis Bickle. You're a dude in your basement who kidnaps Jerry Lewis. It's so great. He puts on his own fake talk shows with cardboard cutouts. Oh, man, what a great movie. That really gets overlooked. And it's also the point of it is, too, that Rupert Pupkin becomes really famous at the end.

It's more of his point, too, of like, no, you'll be super famous if you do this. Watch those together. Watch Taxi Driver and King of Comedy together. They are response films to each other. And you synthesize those two, Robert yours and you get me. Well, and when you see... This was the first time I noticed the other videos on there. Okay. Like that it's

Jacques kissing Edna Krabappel. Oh. So a return of Jacques. And then a real sellout of Lovejoy's character. Like he's just guzzling wine or something. Oh, I wasn't looking at the little monitors. I should have been, really. Well, I didn't. I wasn't looking at the little monitors. I should have been really. Well, it's right in the

center underneath Mo is Wiggum in the bathtub, which felt like a very direct. Well, it's Sharon Stone in the bathtub and sliver and this is Wiggum in the bathtub.

The sliver trailer has Sharon Stone in the bathtub and it's like in the 90s if a woman was in the bathtub, she was masturbating. I mean, we had three of those jokes in season

three of The Simpsons. A woman being in a bathtub masturbating. I feel like Duckman did of those jokes in season three of The Simpsons. A woman being in a bathtub masturbating. I feel like Duckman did that joke every other episode. But I also like that Burns directly credits Sliver. What a delightful romp. And then we get something I never even knew was a movie reference to looking this up. But it really is that Homer eating flowers was just a weird thing of like,

Homer eats so many disgusting things. His mysterious trips to Holland. His secret thing is that he eats flowers and is that a reference to something or just okay thank you uh so in the 1987 film which i've actually never seen the last emperor oh bernardo bertolucci that film is about the last emperor of china before the people's revolution the communist took over and he was the final emperor who actually got like kind of converted over to communism and it's it's an interesting film and in the film he marries the last empress in it and she's kind of ignored even at her own wedding because he's at he's with a mistress of his and so she just starts eating flowers and it's she starts eating the like flower

arrangements and it's kind of it's this thing to show her descent into madness and it's just a long shot of an actress that feels like he just told this actress eat flowers and flowers are edible i think some of them i've had them in salads and stuff like that you're not supposed to not eat flowers like they are they're just plants but they're just pretty plants that don't really have like nutritional value and they don't taste particularly great but there's nothing against it so anyway now now you know that that flower eating is directly from the last emperor which there are no clips of it i could find but also it was just like silence it's like eating flowers doesn't make much sound in the last emperor uh so then bart's bart has learned all

the benefits of being burns's heir that there's a you know for all intents and purposes bottomless pit yes and then he can fling peas at smithers all he wants and homer finally puts his foot down over not over abusing lisa but over a much more important problem oh y, yuck. Meatloaf. My most hated of all loaves. That was the end piece. That's it. Being abusive to your family is one thing, but I will not stand idly by and watch you feed a hungry dog. Go to your room. No. This family stinks. Mr. Burns

nurtures my destructive side. I'm suffocating here. All right, you listen. i'll go eat some flowers my secret chain my secret chain it's a small joke but i like lisa saying oh that was a big one when their peas are coming at her yeah like that as a big one felt kind of real the way he goes bart you listen like he's really he's actually really upset about it. That's some real anger. Good job, Dan. And that he's holding the flower when Bart walks away, too. And somehow Bart gets really ahead of Homer on his bike, even though Homer is right behind him in his car.

And I like, it felt almost like for more for the commercials where Burns is like, maybe he didn't love him. Get him off me. Get him off me. But now he's his son. And when Homer arrives, he runs over bart's bicycle like it's nothing uh and then we get to probably the biggest deleted scene in simpsons history which i did get the clip for it only because it eventually wasn't deleted yeah it got played in syndication as much as anything else and well so let's hear the clip first this is both the one that's in the episode and then

a bit of the deleted scene in case you don't know what was deleted or what you'll release the dogs or the bees or the dogs with bees in their mouth and when they bark they shoot bees at you well go ahead do your worst he locked the door do your worst my worst eh smithers release the robotic richard simmons so for the longest time i thought oh man i can't believe they didn't put that joke in but now i'm like i like the he locked the door joke better it's it's less monkey cheese uh zaniness although I like how it becomes a Terminator parody too later when they shoot a shotgun at Richard Simmons' head. Again, two references mixed together that little Chris got. Yes, I liked both of those when I finally saw that robotic Richard Simmons in the 138th episode spectacular. But that he locked the door, it feels more like what Simpsons was at that time.

Rather than, like, the Richard Simmons joke is an easy target along the line of nude pictures of Whoopi Goldberg. The kind of, I don't know, like sub-J Leno shit that doesn't hold up real well. A little mean-spirited, a little like random humor kind of stuff. It was not just the Simpsons. Richard Simmons was the easiest target you could take, which is why it feels like a bummer for The Simpsons. They should have been somebody they were personally annoyed by. And that was the feeling behind the scenes, too. Not on this commentary, but on the Oakley and Weinstein commentary for 138th episode.

They're very clear that there was a divide in the writers' room when that footage came back. Some people were like, this is really funny. This is really well animated. What a great scene. And other people were like, this is beneath the Simpsons. Richard Simmons jokes is not what we're about. And there's not really, other than him being a robot and a Terminator, it's just a joke about Richard Simmons,

which people were doing that in fucking 87. And his ass was going to explode. I don't know. And this has very little to do with now you know richard simmons withdrawing from society that he once loved so much i think he wants to be left alone yeah i i'm i don't think it's so but he but he was a hack punchline yeah i mean i think like at this point that should have been steve allen that would have been a funny joke yeah it was funny to see him go on letterman so much because he would just go on letterman to

be to be made fun of to make to make dave like nervous and so much because he would just go on Letterman to be made fun of, to make Dave nervous and annoyed. That he could do slightly effeminate jokes and that Dave could make a face at it. Easy now, Richard Simmons is not out. Richard Simmons I'm sure loves women very much. There was that podcast about him and they were like, where is Richard Simmons? He's like, I'm okay, just leave me alone.

Please leave me alone. I stopped talking to you. Alright, leave me alone. But that yeah in 1994 sweat to the oldies like it was still around but it was just kind of old and and it's not fair to the like yeah richard simmons wanted people to lose weight what a bad guy and he's he's just kind of in okay shape and he's a fitness guru who's just in okay shape oh no he was a but he's also a shameless self-promoter that the whole world was aware of him, and he's very loud and brash. Yeah.

He had to sell that fucking deal-a-meal system to people, man. I don't believe there's an anti-gay joke in here. I don't believe there's a body-shaming joke in here. I don't think so either. It's just about him being an annoying, iconic person of the late 80s. It's low-hanging fruit, I think. It is. And that's what I hate about it.

But the animation is so good in it, and it's so well done that I would have, if it had been my call, even though I think he shut the door is much funnier, I would have been like, boy, they put so much work into this. To let the world not see this would not be fair. I think that's why the 138th episode spectacular was the way it was.

They're like, we want to show you the things that we spent time and money and all these resources on that are otherwise buried because there's no dvds in 1995 they have to show them to you some way and on the commentary merkin almost has kind of like in his response to the people who wanted it deleted which obviously they won in the end that he said before 138 they took when he would go on college tours of like simpsons guy goes to your college and they'd show deleted scenes he said that one got huge reactions every time oh and one final thing on

this tangent uh richard simmons was asked to voice the robot but he didn't want to do it because it was a robot version of him and not him in the show it is really weird yeah i forgot that yeah it's a weird stipulation but yeah but i think too if they'd gotten richard simmons then it absolutely would have been in the episode. Because we recorded Richard Simmons. We're not not going to use it. So it also makes the joke weaker when it's just Dan Kessler doing a good impersonation. It's OK.

You know what? Not even good. It's average. I mean, you know who it is when you hear it, but it's just like whatever. Bart is now living with Burns. And I'm getting the clips now, but I'm continuing Chris's tradition of every Phil Hartman voice.

Thank you. We can't not do this, so this is all of the words Phil Hartman says in this episode. Damn, Clark. Well, you good folks can rest easy now because you've come to the very best in legal representation. Excuse me, is there an Orange Julius stand on this floor? I'll sell you this one. It's almost full.

Well, why don't I drink out of a toilet bowl? He'll be back. And as for your case, don't you worry. I've argued in front of every judge in the state, often as a lawyer. This court rules in favor of Montgomery Burns. I find that he is clearly the boy's biological father.

Judge, these won't be ready until Thursday. You know, we should really stop hiring him. No, never. That's the best joke where they just go like, why do we keep hiring this guy? They have to address it because they can't forget who he is unlike every other character they need to forget who they are in order for more stories to happen.

Yeah, so Lionel Hunt has taken up shoe repair. It replaces the I can't believe it's a law firm joke. It's him and shoe repair. And I love Skinner just being sternly disgusted. Why don't I drink out of a toilet bowl? And the way he straightens his tie. I like that. That little extra fidget of, why don't I just drink out of a toilet bowl?

And then a half-drunk Orange Julius, too, that he's trying to sell. He's always trying to hustle and that he's so bad he can't prove that Homer and Marge aren't Bart's parents like that's insane they should declare a bad court thingy and also I didn't get the clip for but right before this we get Wiggum refusing to help and it's the third episode in a row where Wiggum

goes I don't want to do my job. Like, can't you do this? I can't be policing the whole neighborhood. So they were like, sure, an elephant. Like, it's the same joke, but I love it. So then we come back and Bart is at the height of luxury. And it's when we get one of our Simpsons' favorite quotes. Yay. Wow, Bart.

Mr. Burns gives you everything you could ever want. My parents used that old love excuse to screw me out of toys. Well, I'm sure you'd like to be alone with your possessions. Milhouse, if you stay a little while longer, you can have this blazer. It's a Bob Mackie original. Wow, a Bob Mackie. Sorry, Bart. I'm not used to hearing

the uh in there. We always play Wow Bob Mackie. Yeah, I took the A out a long, long time ago for Wow Bob Mackie and other shows. That's my Twitter name now.

Or it has been for a year or so. Well, that's when you... I remember I got in contact with you for the first time through Twitter and I thought that was like... I really thought that was an adopted name. You came up, because I'd never heard of it anywhere but here.

Yeah. In fact, actually, so from the age of. You've been haunted your whole life by Bob Mackie. I have been. I didn't know it was a real person. So born in the early 80s, from the age of three, I knew who Bob Mackie was, because every adult would hear my name and be like, oh, like the designer. And I would be like, I guess so, because he did a lot of stuff for Cher. He just was all over the place. And I would be like, I guess so, because he did a lot of stuff for Cher. He just was all over the place.

So I've known about this guy. And when this episode aired, I think I was in sixth grade. I came to school the next day. I'm like, I'm going to hear it. Like, wow, you were on the show last night, Bob. These kids didn't know who Bob Mackie was. Yeah, it was my brief moment in the sun that the Simpsons said my name. Now, his name is spelled M-A-C-K-I-E.

I-E, right. Not like yours. Mine's E-Y, which is why everyone misspells my name when they write it down. Yeah, E-Y is the true Mackie. Don't be fooled. Well, you know, you had a choice at some point. You could have been Robert Mackie or you could be Robbie Mackie. I was Bobby for a long time.

My family still calls me that. Around this time, I did go by Bob. I put my foot down and said, no, it's Bob. You shouldn't step over the fact that you are the last American ever named Bob. That's true. And I take pride in that. I was the only guy in the games industry named Bob, as far as I know. And there were like, sorry, Chris, there were like a thousand Chris's, 1900 Ryan's, 43,000

Matt's, the only one Bob, which is why I was taken advantage of by all these fans who hate me. They can always find me. I'm the only Bob. But this set they're on, this bedroom thing, it's a direct reference to the show Silver Spoons. That's what I was going to say. Yeah.

He's got the arcade machine. He's got the train set. Yeah. I mean, I don't think they do anything more with it than that. Just a visual reference to a very shitty sitcom. Yeah. I only remember it because of the kid. The rich kid and his black friend.

Ricky Schroeder. Ricky Schroeder. Ricky Schroeder. Was Jason Bateman on that show? No, that was the Hogan. It came on somewhere in the orbit of Different Strokes, which was the only sitcom I liked. Silverspoons, Like, Punky, Brewster, and Charles in Charge were one of the first sitcoms to be canceled and then syndicated for a season. And those syndicated ones are just so much shittier. Yeah, well, you could tell they had a lot less money.

Although, I will say Mama's Family got better when it those syndicated ones are just so much shittier. Yeah, well you could tell they had a lot less money. Although I will say Mama's Family got better when it was syndicated. Would you know that Bob Mackie, his Hi Bob. He was a major fashion designer, especially in the 70s and 80s, though continuing into the 90s and even 2000s, still with us. But his biggest work in the

realm of television was on variety shows like the Sonny and Cher show, Carol Burnettett and that then transitioned to mama's family he worked on no way how weird as a costume designer and if you wonder what that bob mackie sounds like i have an interview with him here it's coincidentally enough talking about judy garland i did not review persona judy was a mess basically judy was unbelievably talented she was like she was this little fragile bird that could just tear up the stage and be so exciting. But at 22, 23, I was so idealistic.

I just thought sometimes, she's so unprofessional. Wow, throwing shade at Judy Garland. Well, if he was working with her like 10 years before her death, I bet she was pretty unprofessional. But who cares? She is a god. Judy Garland could shit on me. This is your second Judy Garland reference thrust upon the show. There's two other famous Bob Mackies I know of because it comes up when I look for things I've done.

One is a Florida basketball coach, and another one is Robert Mackey who writes for the New York Times, I think. So I can use him on my resume and lie and I'm that guy too there was another interview I found with Bob Mackey where he is talking about designing Barbie clothes with a Barbie collector and

they both seem they both seem like a Smithers type I'd say but yeah so that's now in case you ever wondered who the other Bob Mackie was. Yes. That's who it is. He has all my SEO. I need it back.

Quick tangent. I was on the streets of Berkeley waiting to have brunch with my mom on a Sunday. And a dude comes up to me who is not in the age range of podcast listeners or video game fans. And he's like, are you Henry Gilbert? How we use electricity can be smarter, cleaner, and greener. At Electric Ireland, we can help guide you there. You see, our new net zero hub has all you need to know about smart meter plans, EV tariffs, solar panels, and much more. Making your usage clearer, your trips greener, your home cozier, and your world brighter.

Find our net zero hub at electricireland.ie. Yes, I am too. Wow. Wow. What? And he was a professor at Berkeley College and telling me that i had supplanted his seo and that he was like an archaeological dude he's like i used to be the number one henry gilbert on on google and now you are and you replaced me he wasn't that angry i'm putting some anger on him

but he was pointing out to me that like he now knew who i was because i replaced him even in henry gilbert berkeley stuff and that was back then i gotta think i have even more power over He now knew who I was because I replaced him even in Henry Gilbert Berkeley stuff. And that was back then. I got to think I have even more power over archaeologist Henry Gilbert. There was a Chris Antista who had been written up in several New York newspapers about pioneering the hot dog stand. And I trounced that motherfucker. And if I see you in person, I'll fight you. I am the Chris Antista of America.

All of my SEO, if you Google my name, I think all the top hits are people writing about me on Gamergate boards. Gamergate boards and a certain YouTuber who does not like me very much. Yeah, you know, I can't get as many hits on that guy. Like, sometimes his fans reference me too, but I'm just not as famous as you. Oh, come on. Speaking of destructive assholes, Bart's given a reckless car that he almost murders people with. It's a very well animated scene and it's the introduction of Estonian Dwarf. Does he have an actual name?

I bet they named him in like season 25. According to the wiki, he's just Estonian Dwarf. They've seemingly never given him a name. So this joke was a very important turning point on the Simpsons animation team, in which they were asked to do something nightmarishly impossible. The original scene was Bart in his car versus a train and they would they would constantly miss each other through all these switchbacks or like the the train would constantly hit the car but almost not kill bart i don't know how it's even hard to describe in words well it would be a train full of animals too i

think that was a different joke yeah but it was a bart versus a train and david silverman was like it would take two weeks to even figure out how this would work. So they compromised, and they were like, let's do this instead. It's much easier to do, and it's actually a funnier joke because you're just putting the pieces together in your brain of what's happening. It's a better joke, and it had to have been a watershed moment of the animators putting their foot down with the new guy and saying, like, we can't do everything you want. I know you've worked on live action, so you think this is just magic and we draw everything. Like, no, these are human beings. It would be the same as if he had asked on his live action shows,

like on Gary Shandling, he said, so this week Gary Shandling is going to go to a factory, so can you just build a factory set in here? Like, I mean, it'll just be cool to build a factory. You build it as fast as you built the couch set. i mean they didn't really understand like anything we write you you can animate so which is why there were so many crowd scenes and things like that in merkin episodes but i feel like algin and mike reese the previous showrunners they had to learn this too and merkin had to learn it as well and this is one of the reasons that klaski chupo um basically put

their foot down and were fired because they didn't understand animation, the writers, and they kept asking for all these unreasonable things. And it's not that Gabor Chupo, sorry, I couldn't think of it for a second, it's not that he was crazy or a bad businessman, he just was like, we can't do this, we can't make all these changes. You're not paying, we don't have the budget for it,

is what I would think. And it was all on their dime, all these retakes and stuff, so that's why they got fired. In case you didn't know, Estonian Dwarf would appear, he would be beaten nearly to death by Homer Crusty all these retakes and stuff. So that's why they got fired. In case you didn't know, Estonian Dwarf would appear. He would be beaten nearly to death by Homer Crusty as the... Hamburglar did. Check my medical bracelets.

Which, stop, stop, he's already dead. Another great meme thing. I can't wait to get that episode in six months. There's a Jaws of Life in the trunk. And also Estonian Dwarf was Fall Out Boy's stuntman

in the filming of the radioactive ad. I'm only Fallout boy when it hurts it was a real celebrity focused joke about the deprogramming guy that he deprogrammed jane fonda but not peter fonda what's the joke there peter fonda just kind of disappeared after easy rider was that peter fonda is still crazy and wacky yeah that's his thing at that point peter fonda he had no about such about face he was still an icon of the 60s. Meanwhile, Jane Fonda had done fitness videos and married Ted Turner. She said she regretted some of her activism. Yeah.

And meanwhile, Paul McCartney, he didn't need to be convinced to be in Wings, but that he had to be told to get out of Wings. He's the best one. The implication that Wings was also like a cult keeping Paul McCartney there. It's funny though how all of the Fox News grandpas are still mad at Jane Fonda. Hanoi Jane. Yep, never will. And then they accidentally kidnap Hans Moleman and Hans Moleman is

convinced to be Simpsons. Named Hans Moleman for the first time. He was Ralph Mellish in his previous appearances. That's right. No wait, sorry. It was in Dufflis. I think he was named Hans. But I don't think we appearances that's right wait uh no wait sorry it was in dufflis i think he was named hans but i don't think my name is hans no they've never said correct me if i'm wrong in the comments people but i'm pretty sure they never said mole man before which was the internal joke about him that when matt graining saw him as a background

character he never wanted to see again he said it's like a mole man i mean he does look like a bit like the fantastic four villain mole man remember he is canonically 31 years old yes that's true uh and then mr burns enjoys itchy and scratchy a little too much i just love all his laughter that's when the sliver joke was funny but it it also served a plot purpose. Oh, yeah. So they could go back to the video he'll show Bart to convince him his family hates him. Just, it's, they barely even touch on it, but there is, it gives a little emotional heft to it that Bart wants to come back and let you know. But then we get the fake family, which I, much like Richard Simmons, I feel like they tried to get Michael Caine and couldn't. I have a story about that. I do not miss Bart at all.

I am glad he's gone. As am I. Poe! It's probably my imagination, but something about them didn't seem quite right. Really? Excuse me for just a moment. People, that was all wrong. Homer Simpson doesn't say bow,

he says... Go! Sorry, MP, but I'm having trouble with this character. Is he supposed to have some kind of neurological impairment, like Rain Man or Awakenings? I mean, what the hell am I doing here?

And his dialogue has none of the wit and sparkle of murphy brown hey you know we're getting into golden time yes we'll just get it right we'll all be back doing come blow your horn at the westport dinner theater all right then let's see what the old simpson family is up to now that's them all right i do not miss bart at all that was his math out voice yeah i like that too the dan went back doing a bad homer yeah so the story is uh they wanted michael cain for homer and apu he was going to be the celebrity that visited springfield not james woods was so much funny yeah i think it's better that they got james woods but he that they wanted to put him in the

show so they put him in this episode instead it's not really him but it's like you're gonna be in the show no matter what Michael Caine to make it recognizably Michael Caine they draw his glasses in the character design but he's wearing the glasses under a mask which physically doesn't work sounds painful and those are magical masks anyway they just become your skin and if you want to say Michael Caine like Michael Caine say my cocaine Michael Kane Michael Kane Steve Coogan and the other guy in that it was only 13

years it's only 13 come on it's very cross indeed yes fucking love this Steve Coogan is

a fucking great he is so wasted in those Batman movies he's just like exposition bod let me tell you what happened in the last movie

Mr. Wayne some people just want to watch the world burn well even the joke in 1994 was Michael Caine will do anything. Yeah, that's true. He'll do an Oscar-worthy performance one movie and then in the next movie.

Head in the jaws for. Yes. Hey, he was fresh off of Muppet Christmas Carol. He was. Which I love. And he did a damn good job in it. It was really good. But I also felt like that was definitely them throwing shade at people who said that Murphy Brown is a more funny show or clever show.

Who was the woman supposed to be? I don't think she was supposed to be anybody. I don't think anyone in particular. But I definitely read her smoking as like, well, Julie smokes all the time. So maybe that's what. That could be it. Yeah, I think that Wit and Sparkle was from TV Guide, that quote. It felt very, yeah, that does feel like it.

So Estonian Dwarf says golden time, which which i'm guessing i think it means golden hour or it's like some extra pay thing when golden time is uh actually referring to when you're shooting outside it's the perfect time when the sun is like in the best position possible to give you the greatest light they're not outside though so i don't know why he's saying that it feels like an ins it definitely feels like an insider term of just an actor saying you're gonna pay me more because i think you're thinking of the magic hour oh magic magic it's also called the golden hour yeah but i think it has something to do with like crew in between like crew doesn't have to go to lunch this person doesn't have to be offset it's the perfect time i could be wrong about that and

terence malik famously loves the golden hour and that's why his films take eight years to film because like we're only filming for this hour today. We're going to shoot one hour a day. We're really deconstructing this joke, but I think he's saying like we're wasting time. I think the Estonian dwarf is the guy who got the line right. Yeah. And no one else did. Who sounded exactly like Lisa too. It was a very good job by the Estonian dwarf.

But I mean, he lived, he was the one who lived the closest with Lisa. So I understand why. We missed one thing. The deprogramming company was called Conformco. Oh, that's fun. That's cute. I love the little joke of that rib always breaks just the hugging of burns breaks his rib lisa's destroying the house because they need chaos in the house when bart's gone that's when homer falls over and is clearly concussed and just like down does not move again he doesn't move after that and then things really just speed up to the ending, and so

it comes to the firings, and seemingly the death of Lenny. Okay, let's make this sporting, Leonard. If you can tell me why I shouldn't fire you without using the letter E, you can keep your job. Uh, okay. Um, I'm a good work

guy. You're fired. But I didn't say. You will. I mean, by that logic, Burns and Smithers should be dead at the end of this episode. Well, Smithers refers to it as Leonard's carcass. So it's just like, he is dead. I know it's not a direct reference, but it's wonderful connotations to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Yeah. Sweetheart. And the way she did i want it no this episode races to a close the previous scene is bart getting won over by burns then they're in this scene where he's put to the

test like the scene immediately yeah i think for one second like he might be better off here it matches up better it also makes you wonder too too, that they cut the Richard Simmons thing because that was like 30 seconds they didn't have. It was a lot of time. And speaking of time, I will always remember this episode because I flew too close to the sun as a Simpsons recorder off television. I knew there was only enough space for one more episode, but I was like, no, I'm going to get this. I want one more episode on this tape before I start a new tape. So it can be an even longer marathon. And everything's going fine.

The red button at the couch gig. And then we get to when Bart says, you're fired. And before it can reveal its burns, my tape stops. Oh, man. And so I had no more of this episode. I had to just remember it in my mind until then until the dvds really yourself henry so yeah i was so disappointed like i never did that again if it seemed like there was only 20 minutes of tape left on the vhs i was like nope starting a new tape not gonna risk it so bart is

put to the test by being ordered to kill his father yes fire him now or i'll disown you you lose everything the fabulous toys a lifetime of wealth and luxury, the gift certificate from Blockbuster Video, the freedom to do whatever you want. I'll miss you, son. I'm sorry, Dad. You're fired! What?

Fire me? That does it. You can never be my son A little to the left Huh? Oh, very well You can never be my Sir, try to land on Leonard's carcass

And they just hug after that too Smithers does not say E yet Does he go back to work the next day? Yeah, so that's what doesn't work here Even if Homer wasn't literally fired by bart how is he not fired the next day other than the only thing that would make sense is that burns is so injured that he just forgot he wanted to do that and doesn't fire homer it's true he always forgets who homer is so but that bart doesn't have the uh legal grounds to emancipate himself but so that was really a callback to earlier in the episode with the boot.

Bart tells him to move to the left and just the same as Bart Burns just complies. And Bart is welcomed back home and he meets his new older brother. Yes. Well, it felt like they were trying to tie up a loose end that they probably could have gotten away with not tying up of just them explaining to Bart,

you think you saw your fake family, but that wasn't us. And they're like, how would you saw your fake family, but that wasn't us. And they're like, how would you know that? They were complicit with the whole fake, the whole fraudulent family deal. I hope they got good money for that. Maybe they didn't know why they were being studied. I guess I'm trying to get my character down.

But yes, then the show ends with a new member joining the Simpsons family. And now I want you to meet your new brother, Hans Moleman. Cowabunga, dudes. Give it a try. It's like kissing a peanut. Homer, I want that thing out of my house.

What a weird, great joke. Homer likes kissing his dry, wrinkled, salty head. It's just he loves it so much. Meanwhile, Marge refers to Hans Mollman as a thing. Though I wonder if they considered reanimating that because his skin color becomes yellow in that scene. And Hans Mollman is always drawn with brown skin. He's a little browner, but it's weird. But he becomes yellow for this scene. I mean, there have been other episodes to this point he had always drawn with brown skin. He's a little browner, but it's weird. But he becomes yellow for this scene. I mean, there have been other episodes.

To this point, he had been drawn as brown. I know other episodes he's been colored as yellow, as traditional yellow as well. I think it was redesigned to be yellow, but not everyone got the memo. That's true. But it's just that Homer is obsessed with kissing him. It's a great, weird ending. It is a weird way to end the show, but a great one. I think this could be my favorite season five episode. It's a great weird ending. It is a weird way to end the show, but a great one. And this is like, I think this could be my favorite season five episode.

It's up there. I love Mr. Burns episodes, and this is the best one, I think, out of the entire series. I like Rosebud a little bit more. They're so close to each other, I can't decide. But what a great episode. We went long, but I think this episode really deserved us for this whole treatment. Oh, for sure, yeah. I mean, well, this comes right after Bark Gets an Elephant, which I did love that episode. Oh, that oh yeah i mean season five is really taking off it's such a strong season it's and

it's nice that it's stayed strong seemingly to the end we only have four episodes season four kind of flagged a little towards the end yeah as as we were kind of harsh to season four in the end of it of just like i think we're fair yeah yeah but well like when we got to the front we were like well i remember this being funny. But boy, this is a threadbare plot. The scales fell from our eyes. Yes, but there's still tons of great jokes. But this is definitely better than the front.

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