Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk With Nina Matsumoto

Episode Date: September 21, 2022

We're joined again by the fantastic artist Nina Matsumoto as we dive deep into a true classic! Not only do we get to see Burns' retirement after selling out to the very friendly Germans, but we also take a trip to the land of chocolate. Learn all about that plus the Cleveland Browns, how much $100 million is worth now, stock market tips, and tons more. Listen now to a podcast that *is* all smiles and sunshine! Support this podcast and get dozens of bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

This podcast is brought to you by patreon.com slash talking Simpsons. Head there to check out exclusive podcasts like Talking Futurama, Talking of the Hill, the What a Cartoon Movie podcast, and tons more. I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, hoy, everybody, and welcome to Talking Simpsons, the podcast known for causing the mirthless laugh of the damned. I'm your host, the Lando Chocolate Cop Troller, Bob Mackie, and this is our chronological exploration of The Simpsons, who is here with me today, as always. It's Henry L. Gilbert's Private Reserve, a podcast.

And who do we have on the line? Hi, Tina Matsumoto. Bob and Henry have elected me to guest on this episode because I am the most non-threatening. It's true. And this week's episode is Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk. And you know what? I bet he wouldn't sell a plant for a hundred million dollars. Ooh, that's a lot of money.

Don't! Uh, Mr. Smithers, do you have change for a dollar? Good, good. Try to eat something. This week's episode originally aired on December 5th, 1991, and as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh my God. Oh, boy, Bobby. A 10-year-old Britney Spears makes her national television debut on Star Search.

Star Trek VI Undiscovered Country is number one at the box office. And LucasArts releases Monkey Island 2 LeChuck's Revenge on PC. This is perfect news. Never heard of it. What is that? LeChuck's what? I curated. This is perfect news. Never heard of it. What is that? LeChuck's what? I curated this specifically. Sounds like some nerd shit.

Resurrection? Yeah. Not interested. So Britney Spears on Star Search in 1991. That was back when she was a baby demon ending to be hit one more time. And her parents were arrested for abuse. It's the story of Britney Spears, everybody. She's on Star Search. Well, it's cute in a vacuum for its time but basically she's like the uh the kid

star and they're making two kids battle over like who's gonna be the best singer and she actually loses to this 12 year old boy who i'll admit has a little more energy than her on the on the screen maybe but only recently saw a clip of it in that Britney Spears doc about the Free Britney movement from New York Times. And it's really gross now to look at it of like, it's this 10-year-old little girl and Ed McMahon asked her like, do you have a boyfriend? In that creepy old man way of asking a child that.

I could just hear him saying, Britney Spears! Yes. I used to watch star search a lot when i was little i've not seen the britney spears clip though is it like michelle and full house losing to that yankee doodle kid it's actually very similar yeah actually okay that's so funny you bring that up that kid actually the kid she loses to has real yankee doodle kid energy from that scene yeah but did he go on to do anything else or was that his only thing? I looked it up and that's the only thing

that guy's famous for is that he defeated the 10-year-old Britney Spears in 1992, or late 91 on Star Search. That's what he says at the bar every night. He's at the bar every night. You know, I beat Britney Spears.

Sure you did, buddy. We all did. Another round. Star Trek VI, The Undiscovered Country. No idea what that is. A better Star Trek movie coming off one of the more infamously bad ones. It's a great finale.

So Nina, you haven't seen all the original series movies? I haven't seen any of the original series movies because I'm not an original series watcher. I'm more to TNG and beyond. Well, I guess technically Generations is 7. The way at least Paramount Plus. Oh, that was good.

I have a lot of problems with that streaming service. That was surprisingly good. That was good, but when you just type in Star Trek, it's just a bunch of images and you can't read any of the text. You're just like, I'm just going to feel around in the dark until I find the search for Spock. It's the search for Spock. Yes.

Star Trek 6, that was the only one of the original series ones I saw in theaters as a kid. You know, everybody's old, and that's what leads to very mean-spirited jokes like, so very tired in the next season of Simpsons. And now all movies are that. All movies are so very tired. Those guys were only in their 60s. Well, and now old people don't admit they're old like tom cruise doesn't look as old as the 60 year old william shatner did e2 well six though so after five was

so crap they then decided like we have to do a last one this can't be the last one they get everybody back together for a real last one shatner's not directing right no they bring back nicholas meyer the director of ratha khan okay who's the best part of the series or the of the original series movies and it's actually really really good and it also works as a handoff to next generation which was already years into production at that point but the big handoff is at the end of the movie where it's also about the end of communism and the fall of ussr and all that but at the end of the movie, where it's also about the end of communism and the fall of USSR and all that. But at the end of the movie, Shatner says he's about to do his whole line to boldly go where no man has ever gone before.

And then he catches himself and corrects it to where no, I believe it's no person has ever gone before is what they say in the opening. No one. No one. Right. So he changes it to that at the end of six so it makes it canonically kirk's choice that picard says where no one has ever gone before in the woke opening to tng yeah was there any outrage over that i think there must have been a little bit if if they're having shatner if they're having uh william shatner address it in character i'm sure if you

pull up like a 1991 Rush Limbaugh broadcast, folks, they took away the man. It's happening in the American household. If they do that now, though, God. Yes. Where no they them have ever gone before. But yes, I'm just kidding, by the way. And I don't think they would be gathered the entire cast again

until like a CD-ROM adventure game that has the entire cast. That's right. And then Futurama, but Scotty is gone because he's on his way out. entire cast again until like a cd-rom adventure game that has the entire cast and then futurama but scotty is gone because he's he's on his way out and he's not accepting a lot of gigs that's right baby that's led to the creation of welshie yeah old welshie uh monkey island 2 like we said up front nina and i did an entire podcast about that for retronauts but we're both excitedly anticipating the next real monkey island game, Return to Monkey Island. Maybe it'll be out by the time this podcast is out.

Probably not. But it marks the first return of the creator to the series officially since this game, since Monkey Island 2, because he left Lucasfilm Games or LucasArts after this game to make his own kids' edutainment brand. Yeah. And LeChuck's Revenge is my favorite video game of all time with Monkey Island series being my favorite video game series of all time.

And even though they've made sequels to this game without Ron Gilbert, now this is going to be an actual sequel to the second game because the original creator is on it now. And I'm really excited for it. So it better be good. I think it'll be good. I wish nothing but success to a fellow Gilbert. That's true. You can hit him up for money

if it does well. But yes, today we're talking about Burns Verkaufender Kraftwerk. It's improperly conjugated because I assume it's supposed to be I think it's Burns Verkauf das Kraftwerk. So John V did not

conjugate the verb and he had Kraftwerk the wrong gender so shame on you he said that's his biggest title regret but joining us is Nina Matsumoto and Nina this is one of your requests you wanted to be on for this episode why Nina? This could be in my top 10 favorite episodes

and I was shocked when I found out that you guys hadn't set up a guest on yet like you hadn't found anyone to be on this episode and was like hell i'll do this because i love this episode it's just so like so much good burn stuff uh to be uh to be fair nina i think you're editorializing i said you should be on it and you said oh i don't know maybe other people could be on it and then i said you're on it you've got the goods kid prefer my version where i'm a spunky and and full of confidence and i strong-armed you we can't lie to our audience uh but yeah there's like lots of lots of good burn stuff and like

homer is just lovably stupid without being too mean or too wacky and it just focuses on one plot line from start to finish which is pretty rare i think and it's some of the like uh another quality for this one i think is like it's some of the best animation they of the whole season i think too like every design is so funny looking there's so many drawings of homer that just make me laugh and and of course there's an entire uh long uh a bit of great animation that's a bit of a uh it's an off-ramp into away from the story but it's really great animation and i think maybe one of the first, if not the first, Naked Marge, thanks to Mark Kirkland. Well, she was nude in bed when they were getting it on when he thought he was going to die in that one. Oh, you're right.

Did he direct that one, too? Yeah, he did. Okay, wow. They had scheduled themselves to have snuggle times then. This is just her being naked for no good reason. That's true. It's just casual in-bed nudity, which, hey. Just casual nudity, yep. Yeah.

Non-sexual nudity. Marge likes to sleep naked, yeah. There is a lot of great visual stuff here, like obviously the Land of Chocolate scene. But for the most part, I think it's just really clever writing and lots of good character dialogue and lots of good Harry Shearer performances. Oh, yes.

And Phil Hartman in like a secret role here not being troy mcclure yeah we did this we recorded this and radio bart back to back both john vd and i'm starting to think john vd is like the mvp of this era in terms of his his episodes how they turn out yeah it's uh you know the everybody it usually goes to like is it swartzwalder who's the best is Is it, as far as singular writers, George Meyer, everybody in the staff loves George Meyer, but his batting average of John Vitti, especially when he tells stories that involve him going, like, I like how modest he is, honestly. And he's like, oh, I'm not that good. Or these good lines, they were all somebody else

or whatever. Like, I mean, I think on the Mr. Plow one one he's very quick to go like no no no that joke was conan or this joke was whoever he's uh yeah i think he is maybe the best maybe he's the best single writer on the series he doesn't get enough credit honestly not many people would bring him up i think he's got uh bart the lover coming up another really good one yeah yeah yeah yeah he was he was too modest even to us when we interviewed him and yes check the bingo card i mentioned an old interview we did but you guys should listen to it oh it's great yeah he was very friendly to us yes he was i i think another thing i loved about this episode as a kid was uh and now as an adult is that it did show me that what wealth is and why what's most important to wealthy people

is like torturing and controlling people not just enjoying their wealth like that is a an important lesson i learned as a kid yeah re-watching it as an adult uh it really taught me this is why rich people never log off when they should like burns left twitter he's like i'm gonna be rich it's like no i have to post i must post yeah when i was younger i just enjoyed like the funny line readings the funny scenes and now as an as an adult i can appreciate it on a greater level because i understand like the adult talk they're they're doing here like stuff about stocks and stuff i didn't know any about that stuff when i was little i had no idea what was about that i just knew homer did something bad and my stepdad was in a blue collar job like this and he did get laid off a few times and he was in a union so i was like wow

just like on tv oh christmas is gonna be different this year all right yeah i meanwhile my dad played the stocks a lot because it's gambling it just is gambling so this as a kid it explained it a little to me as i've also said before my dad i understood the stock market to be that my dad invested in marvel comics or marvel entertainment stock uh in the early 90s marvel was was a hot stock, very briefly, fully exploited by guys who bought it to just build it up as a bubble. And then that bubble burst. Lots of people lost their jobs.

Marvel almost shuttered as a company. No deal, Gilbert. That Marvel money is mine. And I think this goes live on our Patreon around the time when the Futurama episode, Future Stock, will go live on our Patreon. And they're both about stocks. That's right, man.

What timing. I wish we got to see a stockbroker die in this. We see a near-death stockbroker in this, but we don't see a stockbroker die. He ain't coming back. Also, on the behind-the-scenes thing, to know that I am so happy to know that they originally wrote this as the very cliche thing of the japanese by the plant which was all like every single show did that back then and by that you mean james l brooks because this is his pitch yeah yeah exactly it'd be funnier if he if they were not japanese

and i think they did the same swerve well i mean to be fair uh albert books the the similar swerve with like what if this this guy was French instead of this Bjorn fellow. Yeah, that's right. So by giving it like an unlikely ethnicity, they can have more fun with it and it's less problematic in retrospect. Yeah, that was a good decision. As much as I would have liked to have seen more

Japanese characters on the show as a kid. Yeah, in hindsight, this is a smarter choice and especially knowing now how people were so paranoid about the japanese taking over back then which i didn't know about and it's still that still kind of prevails in like uh cyberpunk with the asian aesthetic trope and people put that in there without knowing where it came from this is such weird timing because as of this recording like a few days ago the embracer group just consumed a lot of businesses across the

world and they're dutch so i was like wow very similar here yeah yeah they're swedish okay oh they're right they're getting revenge on us for mocking them with that puppet for 50 years yeah hergen blergen guess what your business is mine i haven't seen any of the folks who are so scared of ten cents they're not i haven't seen those same people on twitter complaining like oh the embracer group is buying all these companies like i don't i don't see as much the fear of japanese buying companies nowadays uh chinese companies instead oh yeah definitely japan's kind of losing power globally i think like look how weak the yen is and we can't even go go take advantage of it because our country's closed still.

That's true. Yeah, they got to open those borders back up. Yeah, I mean, like I've been seeing, for example, when Nogoshi, the director of the Yakuza series of games, got hired away from Sega to work at a Chinese-owned company. I was seeing the same thing of like oh the Chinese are even buying away our Japanese game developers now like that's the the race we're in at the moment when I was hanging out with you guys in Vancouver I had Nina and Nod heard the about how the the Seattle Mariners got bought by Nintendo and how that was a huge controversy in the U.S. at the time the that nintendo was buying an american pastime

of baseball yeah when was that again uh early 90s i think it was i want to say because that was around when they whenever they started putting out the ken griffey baseball games that was when they bought the seattle mariners because he was on the seattle mariners so i think think 93 94 i want to say and they just sold it off. Now it is not owned by Nintendo anymore. Something like that. But it did remind me of that recent news, this episode, because these German guys are just going on a shopping spree. And it's the same with that group. It's like, we'll just buy whatever's for sale.

It could be like a game publisher, a Lord of the Rings, the idea of Lord of the Rings. We own that now. They'll just do anything. I can't believe they bought Lord of the Rings and own that now like they'll just do anything i can't believe they bought lord of the rings and the hobbit that's a lot of money like it was a decade ago but star wars was four billion dollars like to buy all of the lord of the rings and hobbit now uh it's got to be more than four billion wouldn't you think like do they have to disclose how much they bought the company or ip for apparently not i guess it

was uh i i figure it'll get out at some point but maybe it's different you know because it's maybe swedish disclosure laws of sales like that are different than in america i don't know but yeah i've not heard what the number was for it but you would think it's in the billions and in that way i'm like how do these people get it and not you know amazon or or one of our american billionaires you know especially because amazon's got that lord of the rings show that's about to start too yeah that's right yeah well i guess uh this episode by the way uh there's the chalkboard gag is about the christmas pageant bart saying that it's the the christmas pageant does not stink uh the chalkboard gag and this is the last episode to air in 91 before christmas there will the next episode is on the 26th and so

i i looked into it and it is two weeks after this on the 19th they do air roasting on an open fire as as the christmas special again and what's it partnered with? Beverly Hills 90210 A Walsh Family Christmas. Oh my god, we just watched that. And you know what? That was a very special episode because it was 90 minutes long and it's excruciating. I didn't realize it was that long when we were watching it. Actually, the Melrose to a No episode of it

just dropped today as we're recording. Yeah, as it's recording. If you're interested in what that is, check out the We Hate Movies side project Melrose to a No. project, Melrose 210. They cover Melrose Place and 90210 in one podcast, and it's great. Boy, you know, when I wrote down in my notes that there was a special 90210 with this, I didn't know I'd hit the jackpot conversationally mentioning that to you guys. Yeah, it was a two-hour block.

You start with The Simpsons at 8, and that leads you into the 90-minute episode of A Walsh Family Christmas. I'm sure I was there. Oh, yeah, and Santa's little helper, he looks so mean in that couch gag. the 90 minute episode of uh of a walsh family christmas i'm sure i was there oh yeah and santa's little helper he looks so mean in that couch gag like i've never drawn him that mean before like a great animation i love how they just slowly back away from him out of the frame they're they're they're troubled by him i uh nina have you would you ever draw uh slh that angry or that mean looking in in your time with simps's art i've never got to um i've gotten to draw him a few times but never showing much emotion honestly just him looking dumb and

happy he's usually pretty blank in emotion yeah but so the when the the episode though begins with burns and smithers hanging out together it's funny they say on the commentary like this was supposed to be longer and they thought oh we can't have this much burns like they'd they'd learn that they they easily can't have this much burns i confuse this opening with the opening to burns's air because it's a similar bathing burn scene except in that one he almost dies because burns puts the sponge on top of his top hat or his head right yeah i love the bathing bathing burnsy scenes like smithers taking care of him though the level of intimacy is not the same burns is it has his clothes on for this bathing like that's oh it's just his hair right yeah it's i'll play the clip

but it's it feels to me like smithers is explaining shampoo as a concept to burns like he's never heard of shampoo before it's a breakthrough product sir scientifically formulated to rinse clean with no oily deposits hot dog and it's mild enough to use every day isn't life grand what's wrong sir did i get some in your eyes the shampoo specifically said no more tears lovely promise but one beyond the powers of a mere shampoo. Sir, I feel there's something you're not telling me. Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable talking to Snappy the alligator. Maybe.

Hello, Mr. Burns. Snappy, you know, it's hard to imagine, but I was once a barefoot boy with cheek of tan. I dreamed of Grand Slam home runs and wiping out nations with the stroke of a pen. Well, there's still time for all those things, sir. Is there? Controlled nuclear fission is a demanding mistress, Snappy. So you feel resentful towards the plague? Yes. Yes, exactly. You know,

maybe it's time I sold the old girl. A reaction from Smithers and Snappy. I love Snappy. I think once he got Bobo back, Snappy. I love Snappy. Yeah, I wanted to come back. I think once he got Bobo back, Snappy just got incinerated. If they make a Smithers set, you know, the part of the really cool sets.

Oh, Super 7. Super 7, yeah, yeah. They should have Snappy the alligator. That's a deep cut. Yeah, an interchangeable hand that has Snappy on it. Yeah, I love that. Just like when he says, well, what about Snappy? Like the implication that Smithers has been using Snappy for a long time to talk to Burns

more candidly, just through Snappy. I also love the way Shearer says it and the way it's animated, like Burns being like a coy child of like maybe maybe he just turns away he knows what he wants it's it's adorable i guess it's part of the game for them too of him saying like maybe but is it a joke too that when smithers says no more tears that it means he's using baby shampoo on burns yes yeah i feel like he's running out of things to talk about because birds is so sullen so he's just giving him talking points from the shampoo bottle it's like oh it's a breakthrough formula sir snappy is uh finding out that burns just feels so empty at his job i guess this this is

just about burns finding excitement and energy in his job once more that he's realizing i guess really burns is just realizing like he's he's getting older and can't do these it's like a midlife crisis at like well he's 87 or 82 like 82 at this point at this point he's 82 yes and burns is referencing the uh poem the barefoot boy by poet john greenleaf whittier oh wow from 1885 with the line barefoot boy of cheek of tan uh which uh now as i describe it as this man wrote a poem about how much he loves this boy and his excitement uh but it it's it's a tribute to youth while enjoying youth while it lasts i had no idea it was a reference i'll tell you what i only knew it as a kid even because bullwinkle bullwinkle episode boy the announcer says and there were barefoot boys with cheek of tan and i asked my

mom like what's that about she's like that's some old poem so when burn says it i was like oh it's the bullwinkle poem uh it's some old poem uh don't investigate it any further yes yeah uh well fortunately google google now has a fuller answer to it and yeah it's i mean it's a nice poem it continues with uh with thy turned up pantaloons and thy married whistle tunes with thy red lip redder still kissed by strawberries upon the hill. This is a sicko. Are you serious

or are you making this up on the fly? I'm reading the poem from the Poetry Foundation. Why would the Poetry Foundation lie to us? Strawberries kissing boys, that does sound wrong. Maybe it was just of its time you know uh no he's just jealous of this boy i'm not gonna read anymore you're throwing stones

and did john greenleaf whittier here uh he probably died of tuberculosis like most poets even today cuts to homer trying to use his dollar in the machine it's what a great design on a ravaged dollar bill like it's great yeah i like how uh he's just so outraged even though the dollar bill clearly will never work he says what do they want this is something i haven't had to experience much myself because i come from the land of loonies and toonies oh right and your and your bills are much crisper too that's true especially now that they're plastic it's uh you know we tried dollar coins here but americans just don't uh they never caught into it whether you put an old white slave owner on it or sacagawea either way we still don't buy it we still don't collect uh

dollar it's so much easier for using vending machines and especially like capsule machines you don't have to put in like four quarters to put in a dollar's worth to get like a sticky hand or whatever or a bouncy ball you put in a loony worth to get like a sticky hand or whatever or a bouncy ball. You put in a loonie. We should put minions on them, I think. That would work. Yeah, that'll get the... Well, I guess first the government has to buy illumination animation first, right?

We need some Funko coins. That's the ticket. Yeah, all the precedence has Funkos. So there's a big animation error in this scene that i i really noticed maybe for the first time i don't know if i mentioned it on the last time we did this episode but when uh homer is on the left side of the screen and smith is on the right side of the screen and he says and you know what i bet he wouldn't sell the plant for 100 million and it cuts to homer saying oh that's a lot of money the cut of homer is like

in a different room from a different episode i think it's because they were like they were like smashing together two retakes because there's like a seam running down the middle of the uh the scene and it feels like in video they're kind of layering two scenes on top of each other like but whatever homer was doing was so messed up they had to cut away to a different piece of animation because they couldn't fix it i didn't i noticed the cutaway to old animation but i didn't catch the scene that that totally has to be it it's covering there's there's a few times in this where they cut to like a still image or a retake a replay that probably is just covering for a retake they couldn't do yeah it reminds me of i think in maybe the telltale head when they go into the quickie

mart they like there's like a video freeze on a poo as who is pause yes that's what it feels like with smithers on the right side of the screen and there's like a weird seam that they like with video effects they are trying to mash two retakes together it didn't work out i was just gonna say i never caught that animation error but the the cut into another a whole other episode that always bothered me do you know what episode that's from i can't pinpoint it it was driving me crazy i couldn't i i was searching i was checking on frinky yak all over the place because so it has to be art style looks like late season one or uh mid season two up to mid season two but it has to be one where homer is at the plant wearing the tie at the plant because you can see his tie in it and oh you're right he's not even wearing a tie in the scene at the vending machine that's crazy i

just i just realized that yeah and so isn't he wearing a tie he's not he's not oh okay no he's not now by season three his tie is kind of over or well i bet you see him wear a tie from that now and then but it's not they've definitely broken the rule of homers at work he's still wearing his tie in this episode not at the vending machine i'm looking at frankie act right now but yeah i cannot pay i cannot catch where the uh that one is from where homer says that's a lot of money like yeah it feels like it should be easy to pinpoint because there aren't that many episodes up to this point yeah i well now we have to just watch every one and i know i keep an eye out i i went through Frankie Hack.

I could not find it because it also needs to be... It looks like season one to me as well because the background of Homer is like season one coloring of the break room. It's not like season two coloring of the break room, mostly. Well, you know, we put this on you, the listener. Yeah, listener. Do some work for us for a change. Someone is yelling at us right now as they're driving.

They've already driven through a church. They're so angry. Usually I'm good at identifying where the reused animation comes from, but this one I could not. I have to admit defeat. His hair is so squiggly, too. His side hairs, it's not pointing at all. It's an S.

Wes Archer. I thought I went to the west archer apps i know it looks like the west archer m on his on his hair too that mac rainey hates but these are the important answers our podcast tries to track down we do our best listeners the sentence will be right back. Mr. Burns sells his power plant. Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo! They grudgingly exit.

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he is eating something i think this is the first time i realized that it's Homer's fault all of this happens. Because of him taking this $100 million idea as something literal. Like, I suppose it's just like throwing out a random number as an exaggeration. Like, this huge amount of money Burns wouldn't sell it for. Homer takes that seriously and then tells the Germans that. And that's the reason why it all happens. I don't think I really put it together before. Or maybe I did.

And the Germans take it seriously to make it the offer that Burns does accept. Yeah, you're right. I can see it as the choice that they want Homer to be active. Have a Simpson be active in this story to a large degree. So then Homer gets a call from his gross old broker who is dying as he's talking to him on the phone here. His office is so great. And I love the two windows that just open to a brick wall oh that's great yes yeah though it it feels like so old of a of a joke like if you've seen the movie wolf of wall street it takes place from the late 80s to the mid 90s so in this time frame this is when this type of guy was dying out and

the jordan belforts of the world were coming in and doing these penny stocks and get tricking basically people like homer into investing in the stock market i always wondered why this guy looked like this i just figured it's because homer has like the worst uh hire as a stock stockbroker possible i can see that yeah i well maybe it's like the union appointed stockbroker yeah because he homer doesn't even know he owns stock which they well here i've got the clip homer simpson here homer it's your stockbroker your stock in the power plant just went up for the first time in ten years. I own stock? Yes.

All the employees got some in exchange for waiving certain constitutional rights. So, uh, how much did it go up? Wait a minute. Let's not do that yet. The book says we have to make a little small talk before you get down to business. Everybody alive? Yeah. Like any sports?

Sure. Ever go dancing? Not anymore. We should get together sometime. That'd be great. Hi there. Now we trust each other. Hello.

How are you? Hey! Dead. I'm renewing my notary license on a weekly basis. Uh-huh. So where's my stock up to? Let me punch that up on the computer. 25 cents a share.

What should I do? Well, let me put it this way. You'll get $25 if you sell now. Sell, sell, sell. Woo-hoo. $25. $25 if you sell now. Sell, sell, sell! Woo-hoo! $25. And he imagines some amazing things with that $25, including buying a hammer with no hair

on the side of his head. That's part of his dream. It's not a mistake. That's Homer's fantasy that he doesn't have that side hair on. Well, he just got a haircut in the previous fantasy, right? Yeah, yeah. I have stocks and stuff. I never, like, check up on it or anything um it sounds exhausting it's all just long-term stuff it's all money i imagine is not does not

even exist i guess it's money i don't need i imagine like okay i don't know what stockbroker does do they just like check up on things for you and do all the exhausting like babysitting of like watching the stocks like hour by hour and then telling you about what you should do i i think so but i think it's one of those things now pardon my ignorance i could be wrong about this i think it's one of those things like a travel agent in which we now have the tools that only they used to have so now we can do that stuff ourselves like we can book our own flights we can figure out lodging we can go on we can use an app to look at our stocks constantly yeah i think uh i mean yeah i assume there are still stockbrokers but i assume a lot of their roles have been made redundant by technology so

now all the stockbrokers do look like this guy yes yeah they're desperate you know back then in so many ways technology has demystified a lot of stuff and that includes the stock market where back then it's like oh well this broker he knows what's going on if he tells me to buy or he tells me to sell or says this is the new hot stock or whatever which to find out that homer's homer's stock was worth an eighth of a penny uh beforehand uh and that now it's up to uh well just 25 25 cents yeah yeah that's apparently has 100 shares of stock yes that's so this is how it made sense to me as a kid too finally because so when my dad got marvel stock the thing that interested me about it was that he got a free comic book in the mail that was basically it was like here's the year

report the annual report but in comic book form and i love that i was so excited by that it's like spider-man fighting graphs i actually have it right here i think he does let me just pull it out uh henry's rifling through a bag what's what else is in there some other classic comics of mine but there are classic actuary tables there it is the the of the marvel i'm showing it to them guys the 1991 annual report wow it's uh it's worth i'd say it's worth well if it was in better condition i think it's worth 200 bucks but i I don't want to sell it. It's too many memories. I was going to say, there's far too much artwork in here.

Yes, yeah. The graphs come in the back. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's great. And they're like, yeah, actually, like, Ghost Rider is riding a graph. Yes. Mr. Fantastic Four Man, he's wrapped around a graph. I was making these as jokes.

This is actually happening within this comic book that's awesome uh but i guess homer's failure was he didn't wait until the end of the afternoon he just sold immediately yeah that's well that's what the guy makes the great point to homer homer takes it wrong when he says well if you sell now you get 25 i believe the joke is that as the broker tells that he's's like, and $25 is nothing. So wait to sell. But when Homer hears $25, he's like, sell, sell, sell. Yeah. Sorry, Nina, go ahead. I did not understand any of this when I was younger. And I don't think I fully understood what exactly Homer did that was so bad until well into my adulthood, because I did not care about stocks at all until recent years when I actually bought stocks, I guess. Bob, did you understand any of this?

Absolutely not. And not until, like, I think, I mean, go to that Talking Futurama episode. That's what taught me about stocks. Okay. Everything about stocks. I mean, school didn't teach me about anything financial. I mean, I think it should have. But yeah, like only as an adult when I watch this, I say, okay, I know what stocks are.

And I know the stock marketer was going to say, you could sell it now, but Homer would not let him finish. He's like, sell, sell, sell, because he only wanted the 25 bucks. No, yeah, thanks to my dad's Marvel stocks. That's how I knew this episode, because he owned 100 of Marvel stock, just like Homer owns 100 of this. So that's also how I knew if I was watching my dad watch CNBC and see the stock ticker like you see in this episode. If I saw MRV, which is Marvel, that was the Marvel sign, MRV. And then the number I was like, oh, my dad's stock is worth this much now. And then it's worth that.

But thanks to that whole bubble bursting thing with Marvel stock in, I believe, 96, my dad's stock ended up being worth zero and then when the new company bought it they kind of he eventually just sold it for pennies on the dollar my dad held on to it too long that's a mistake you can make in stocks as well you know i'm not into be careful with gambling like at all that's why all my stocks are in like long-term investment stuff and i was just never interested in it like but yet i still found this stuff funny when i was a kid somehow i just knew homer did something bad with money to make him lose money or not get as much money as he should have gotten that's all i cared about and that's all you need to know really short-sightedness and now of 25 i think kids nowadays will learn about stocks through

animal crossing with the turnips actually I think maybe it was a combination of that Futurama episode and later that fall playing Animal Crossing with the stock markets. That taught me about what stocks were. I was like, oh, it's just gambling. Okay. Yeah, it's all from a pun

because in Japanese, turnip is kabu and kabu also means stocks. So you can buy turnips every, like once a week in Animal Crossing. That is perfect. uh and it's the sow jones market in english because it's the a pigs or sorry a cow sells it to you well sorry it's a boar right so it's out right that's it but uh that's so great that it's like it's a double like that's great english localization too that they make sure it's a pun in english

yeah as the stock market s-t-a-l-k that's so funny it's the one time a pun could be directly translated yeah yeah it's great without any real changes god like just keeping even just keeping track of turnip prices throughout the week was exhausting when i was playing animal crossing because if you don't sell within a week they all rot so you have to sell within the week and you like visit everyone's island people be like oh my turnips are being bought for like 250 bells right now come to the week. And you'll like visit everyone's islands. People will be like, oh, my turnips are being bought for like 250 bells right now. Come to my island quick

or you'll just go to like complete strangers islands to sell them. It was like madness in the early quarantine days in 2020. I remember the first three months, right in the first three months after that game came out, I'll like Twitter every Sunday or whatever,

just like, ah, 238, come here, come here, here's my code. Sell, sell, sell. It was so fun to connect to someone else's island in that game. It wasn't a big pain in the ass at all. It took too long, and it kicked you, and boy. You have to see the same dodos every single time. I love those dodos. They're cute.

I like them. But Homer's limited fantasies of $ of 25 like it truly wasted on a haircut i'd say most of all like that hammer though his satisfaction of holding that hammer up that's that's great so yes homer heads out and i do wonder like how stagnant was just the rumor that burns might sell brought up the stock like quadruple pretty much already like that it must be in the business world burns is seen as like it's a dead business and if burns is leaving like oh wow it's gonna be worth something now invest invest i'd like to think these germans landed like a few weeks ago they've been buying things around the country and they're like oh we want to buy a power plant and

maybe in springfield and that made the stock go up a little tiny bit. Yeah, and Homer exacerbates it more with his passing along the information over drinks. They never even say what their company is, do they? Or are they just like a couple of guys? Oh, their company is written on the check. Oh, I missed that. Yeah, we'll talk about it later. Eagle Eye, Bob Mackie, spotted it. Well, and also this similar thing is is happening now i'm sorry to turn

this to wrestling for just a minute oh no similarly in wrestling there was a whole bunch of new scandals with vince mcmahon the owner of wwe he has resigned from the company and at the time of this recording there is talk that they are going to sell the company and the stock is hitting new and new highs every day because of it so i thought it was going to be about charles montgomery punk no no no i'm at cm punk is well the company cm punk wrestles for is not a public company which neither are we henry and i have stock yep we own all the stock yeah yeah it's literally in a binder in my closet now if you're if you're germans with 100 million million, we will listen.

Yes. But otherwise... Maybe Saudis, too. Hey. Yeah, okay. Sure. There's no limit to how much I'll sell out. What if the Embracer Group offered you $100 million?

Ooh. I'd climb into that hug. Yeah, I'd want that embrace right now. Well, especially, hey, you know, they own all the Saints, Rose, and Darksider games, and I like those. Those are good games. Homer sells off. Meanwhile, we cut to home where Bart is watching Itchy and Scratchy.

I like on the commentary that the writers are like, ah, we were so wasteful. We gave it two names, this cartoon. We should have just saved one for a rainy day. I think they're just being diplomatic because, oh, they're both really good. And there's another weird animation thing. I don't think they would ever do this again in that they distort the image on the TV to make it look like it's like a rounded CRT tube. But they only do it for this itchy and scratchy cartoon and only in this episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're right. Maybe they tried out the video effect and didn't like it. I'm glad they didn't do it anymore. You know, not seeing the nail enter him from the front and instead seeing him come out the back, that's more horrifying, I think, for the damage done to Scratchy in this cartoon. And then Marge tells Bart to switch to the financial channel

and we've got all the stocks flying by. And once again, we're reminded of the Burns Worldwide logo, which is a mushroom bomb going off so funny it's not seen a lot after this era i think it's gone after season three makes me sleepy now because of bob t-shirt that he wears to bed is of this that means it's nappy time t-shirts in the bedroom huh a house of pain a fairly new reference yes yeah you're right that's uh it's a rip from the the billboard charts and uh so they they turned the channel they find out that homer's stock is now going to be worth 5200 in total which according to uh online inflation calculator in 2022 right now is worth $11,300, which that, you know,

I think for, well, for a family their size, I mean, it's a good start to a savings. I'd say it's not going to solve all their problems. I mean, that's a lot of money though. Yeah. I mean, look at what one $1,600 check meant to people. That was life changing for so many people, which is why they're like, no more of that. You don't get any more of that. I the 2000 check the fine printer okay and now go back to work exactly uh i mean for an upper lower middle class family like the simpsons eleven

thousand dollars uh it could be life-changing it's like we can wipe out credit card debt we can get rid of a part of our mortgage we. We could improve the house in certain ways. I feel like that, for the family where they are now, is a big deal. But Bart just sees it as things that can buy him stuff, including we get the return of frosty chocolate milkshakes. I think my favorite is the monster truck. That's the one I'd have wanted most as a kid. The bad boy Bart's monster truck? Which would not be $5,200. You don't want to be inflated?

No, no. That looks too painful. Some people like it. Well, see, that did not activate me as a child watching it. Maybe it did for others. I guess some kids were like, one day I will start a wiki. I will capture every frame of this. I also like in Bart's dream that his friends approve of his sky writing.

They're like, hey, that's good. By Milhouse and Martin. He craves the approval of Milhouse for learning. Putting E-My Shorts in the sky, that's a good branding for him. Yeah. That's his brand. And he spells it so well, too. Which you feel like he'd, you know, you need goggles on flying around like that fast.

You mean there's a flaw in his fantasy yeah he's a little short-sighted yeah we just watched the rocketeer you need an entire helmet yeah yeah that's true and uh so homer heads to mose he buys a 20 beer which uh you know that's happy hour prices in san francisco uh no the price of a pint is around uh nine dollars here i don't think i've spent twenty dollars on a bottle of beer maybe like a special holiday bottle of beer uh i don't think that 20 might have been the max i mean i love beer nina and i do a lot of drinking at breweries and stuff like that but nina have we ever bought a beer around this price i don't think so or whatever like a bottle yeah no not that expensive

was there some kind of trend in releasing fancier versions of cheap beer back then is that what this is you know there was there was like a higher shelf budweiser but usually it's like a different brand this is before though the fake micro brew era of like red dog beer yeah that kind yeah it was a real trash time for beer in america But I guess there were some good beers somewhere. But I was brought to the liquor store a lot as a kid, okay? I know what I'm talking about. The current beer trend is making hard seltzer because something like White Claw was making a lot of money. And now Bud Light has a hard seltzer.

Bud Light also released a zero-carb version of their beer called Bud Light Next. oh yeah i heard about that yeah they get that's what you say after you sip the beer you're like next yeah they all sound awful i would never drink any of these yeah we had a good time drinking some hard seltzer though yeah oh i offered up some hard seltzer to you guys all right recording yeah i'm i'm a white cloth surge man i like the surge brands that's to get two percent more alcohol in there i just would not drink the bud light hard seltzer i don't trust that but this is when homer makes some new friends at the bar for your information i just made a cool 25 dollars playing the markets by no tell hi that my motto. I may just quit my job at the power plant and become a full-time stock market guy. Have it up, boys. Oh, thank you. My English is not perfect,

but I have to tell you, your beer is like sweet to us. Do I have that right? I'm saying that only a swine would drink this beer? Yeah, but thank you anyway. Hey, you guys aren't from around here, are you? Ach, nein. We are from Germany. He is from the East. I am from the West. I had a big company, and he had a big company. Now we have a very big company. We are interested in buying the power plant. You think your owner would ever sell it?

Well, I happen to know that he won't sell it for less than $100 million. A hundred million? Eins, zwei, drei, vier, fünf. Oh, don't worry. that he won't sell it for less than 100 million dollars a hundred million that's fine i feel oh don't worry we'll still have enough left to buy the cleveland browns browns i love how he says that i anticipate him saying that every time i watch this episode you know i looked up why the cleveland browns are called that because i always wondered and they're just named after the co-founder okay i didn't know that. The co-founder is Paul Brown.

That's why they're called the Cleveland Browns. That seems kind of boring. So the S should be possessive then. It's the Cleveland Browns. It's owned by him. Or they're all part of the Paul Brown family, therefore they are the Browns. Maybe that's what they're going for.

Oh, they're all family. Well, Bob, imagine owning the Youngstown Mackeys. Would you want that? Ooh. I could have started my own team called the Youngstown Mackeys. I mean, there was at one point like an elf, Brownie the elf. Okay. And I thought for the longest time, I thought because an old timey term for an elf is a

brownie. Like if you read D&D books or whatever, it it's like there's fairies there's elves there there's like a little sprightly thing not like an elf race of people i'm looking yeah i thought it was like oh he's a little he's a little scamp with a football he's not importantly he's not a caricature of a living race that's yeah like another cleveland team uh though you know the the browns they still haven't won a championship right like ever a bunch of bums yeah well that's what the joke is too the browns they still haven't won a championship right like ever a bunch of bums yeah well that's what the joke is too when they say they still have enough to buy the cleveland browns it means like they're the cheapest team and the easiest to buy oh yeah

they were they were big time losers around this time i i was cleveland adjacent you know what in 2012 in 2012 the browns were purchased for a billion dollars. So they got worth a bit more 20 years after this joke. No football comments, please. Well, the Browns thing reminded me of how recently I found out that Taco Bell is called that because it's also named after its owner, Glenn Bell. Wow. I did not know this. It sounds like a joke, but it's true. It's an American Glenn. Wow.

Imagine if it was called taco glenn i have to give it then to the ad wizards because it makes me feel like yeah it's a bell in like an old mexican church that got turned into a taco restaurant yeah yeah it goes well with the branding it's true but nope it's just glenn bell founded taco bell and you know what i also do like that they ripped it from the headlines that this is about the recent then recent reformation of Germany after the wall fell in 89 and as as we know from the classic cartoon cartoon all-stars to the rescue was broken down by Alf he did it not broken not David Hasselhoff so the formal reunification of uh germany was in october of 1990 the wall fell before then so we are barely uh what is this december of 91 yeah like barely a year since the reunification happened formally i'm gonna credit it to vd maybe somebody else wrote it but it is such a clever

line like they get so many great lines about that seem like they are the start of a joke of like my english is not so good but and then they actually perfectly speak english better than an english speaker but that you think it's a lame joke where he says this is like swill to us where you think that he's mispronouncing swell but he actually is very correct he's like no this is like uh only a swine would drink this this is for pigs right like that's such a great joke they are they are not inelegant and kirkland says that the germans wear gray for the reason you would think because of hogan's heroes that's what those guys wore exactly yeah and uh mike reese let's point

out that uh fritz still looks like one of the japanese characters uh they might have used in the original pitch the east german guy is pretty skinny yes yeah he's uh back to the old inflation calculator 100 million 217 million by today's standard which honestly compared to what i hear about corporate buyouts kind of low these days this is just a local power plant though i guess yeah yeah it's not burns doesn't really seem to own much outside of spring i guess they are buying burns worldwide, though, right? That's true, yeah. Homer tips these guys off to the plants for sale.

We cut back a home, and they're all talking about what they're going to do. Patty and Selma are even there for it. This comes so close after Saturdays of Thunder, where Patty and Selma are also around a bunch to just comment on Homer's failure. Honestly, if we hadn't just done it, when Homer cries in front of the TV, I was thinking Patty and Selma were going to say, you're all so fat. It's staged very similarly. Well, they set up Patty and Selma being here because when Barr is watching it

and Scratchy Marge says, your Aunt Patty says turn on the financial channel. So probably when this news is happening, Patty and Selma came over to watch the excitement. It's the miracle we've been waiting for. What are we going to spend it on? Homer's probably buying some magic beans with it right now. We'll have a savings account. We've never had one. Kids, I think everything is going to be okay from now on.

Hey, hey. Oh, Homer. You heard? We heard. Isn't it wonderful? We have some great plans for that money. Well, I'm afraid I had some great plans, too. What do you mean?

I spent it on beer. Surprise, surprise. You spent $5,200 on beer? $5,200? What are you talking about? What? Oh! I sold it all for $25!

Come on, everybody. It makes you feel better. Why are they, I guess, maybe patty or selma you know with all their free time maybe they they play the market some well we find out was it patty or someone who invested in uh pepper spray before society fell apart right that's the money that bob's gonna get from her at the later in this very season black widower yeah i just checked uh 25 bucks adjusted for inflation that's like 54 and 38 cents today so that's a really expensive beer that homer bought then it really is yeah yeah but still couldn't buy a video game but uh though i guess 25 back

then wouldn't have bought you a video game either it would have been like 70 bucks for a copy of a if he won on a steam sale he could buy tons and tons with that money exactly if you're a sucker who buys games at release i do that sometimes sometimes. Man, 2022, how many copies of LaChuck's Revenge could you get for 25 bucks? Ooh. I bet at least 15 or 10. I'd take 10. It's probably still like $9.99 on Steam. I think so.

If you're getting that special edition version. Oh, sure. Okay, that one. But what about on good old games? Just the old version. I don't think they sell the old version anymore. Okay. I don't think they sell the old version anymore. I don't think so. When Marge says we'll have a savings account, we've never had one before.

That does explain why they are in so much trouble one paycheck off from Homer. Because they have nothing. They really are just paycheck to paycheck. Then Homer coming in and not realizing they're talking about the same thing. Like, saying, like, ah, I spent it on beer and told you. That's a great, great reply. Homer just breaking down and what he realizes he sold it all for 25 bucks. And Bart kicking him and his head hitting the screen when he gets kicked.

That feels like a good act break they didn't use. When Bart says, come on, everybody, it makes you feel better. That feels like a good act break they didn't use. When Bart says, come on, everybody, it makes you feel better. That should have been the act break. It feels like it was intended to be, but then they decided to prolong the act a bit more. Well, I guess they wanted to get it up to when the Germans buy, I suppose.

But yeah, it's better to just end it on make you feel better. Homer then comes back to work and everybody's rich except him. Hey, Alba. Did you buy this car with your stock money? Sure did. Homer then comes back to work and everybody's rich except him. Hey, what do you see, Lenny? He just got back from the plastic surgeon. Geez, Lenny, looks like you got the works. Well, it started out as an eye tuck, but the stock kept going up.

Hey, come here. Mr. Burns is on TV. Mr. Burns! Mr. Burns! Mr. Burns! Mr. Burns! Mr. Burns! Mr. Burns, we've heard that a German consortium has offered to purchase the plant. Any comment? You'll see the Statue of Liberty wearing lederhosen before you see Germans running my plant. Well then, sir, why are you meeting with them? So I can look Uncle Fritz square in the monocle and say,

Nine! You know, even as a kid, my pedantic nature came through and I was thinking, Those cars would cost more than $5,200. Maybe they're leasing them. pedantic nature came through and i was thinking like those cars would cost more than 5200 maybe they're leasing them but that if everybody unless people own more than 100 shares the than like homer does 5200 wouldn't cover like a lot of those cars i was thinking that too i assume they made a big down payment or something sure that'd work that and he could it could afford his uh plastic surgery though oh yeah yeah that started on on that road i'm more bothered by the the guy in the limo with the

homer beer line who the hell is he discount her powell yeah yeah i also think charlie and his classic car i wonder if it's a jay leno joke though jay leno wasn't yet on the tonight show so he wasn't the rich jay leno who owns like a model t and drives around burbank he was making pat morita movie money at that point. Doritos money, though. You know, Doritos money could cover some classic cars. He was making Doritos and Morita money. I'm glad that Lenny was able to afford plastic surgery and to shave.

I guess, you know, you ought to shave before plastic surgery, I would guess. It is weird seeing Lenny without the beard line, but I guess you kind of need that removed for the giant smile. Yeah, maybe they tried adding the beard line on that and it just looked too grotesque. Though then it's distracting that, I'll say it at

the break, but it doesn't last long his rickety grin. This made me want German food and I have a really good German restaurant in my neighborhood I want to go there with you Nina Galbenkitzel That's what it's called

You have to shout it out loud And actually we just watched Inglourious Bastards And the only way I would ever want to emulate a Nazi Is how they drink out of a big beer stein I was like that's the drink for me And you can drink out of a beer stein at that German restaurant. I have not challenged myself to drink an entire liter of beer out of one giant cup.

But I think next time I will. We should do that. Would you want one that shaped like a boot like the one Nazi in the movie? Yes, but Nina has to have a gun aimed at my penis while I drink it. No, Bob, let's not discuss the movie, everybody. On the podcast. TMI. Fine, fine. no no bob let's not just watch the movie everybody on the podcast tmi fine fine oh sorry it was his walls not his penis i apologize movie fans i'm sorry some nights we do balls yes exactly

balls night uh we gotta we to roll the dice on that one. I also love that Burns speaks perfect German. It's an understated joke of like, oh, Burns. You instantly think like, oh, Burns speaking perfect German. He'll say it later. He made the bombs and they worked, darn it. But he did a lot of German business dealings, I think, in the 30s and 40s. Good old Burns. I mean, he fought against the Germans with Abe.

Sure, but only after he made a pass. No, he turned down a probe from J. Edgar Hoover. That's what happened. So he's not fighting the Germans out of any personal dislike of the Germans. But now he's rich as Nazis. Yeah, I want someone who knows German to tell us how good his German is here. I wonder if this was the German that got coached to them by uh phil hartman who they they said spoke german and helped him out with uh some of the speaking phil hartman didn't look at the

episode title though it had to be on like every page of the script at the top or something yeah i tried he thought it wasn't his place i tried teaching myself German once with Duolingo, and it's tough. Like, God, even just learning French, dealing with the gendered words was a pain, like the masculine and feminine. And with German, there's masculine, feminine, and neuter. And it's all so arbitrary, and there's, like, so many different ways to say the, and that it also seems so arbitrary. I just kind of gave up after a while. I'm like, I can't do this anymore. My brain is not soft and malleable enough to teach this myself not a four no no space for a fourth language in there no i'm all full slacker i'm not

like all those genders i'm not like christoph waltz here that guy's amazing yeah he is they you know i had four language teachers they at my high school they really hit the jackpot uh the the school with hiring them it was a husband and wife they taught they knew spanish and french though i believe both of her husband was actually german though and and i believe the spanish he taught was more i believe other the students who spoke spanish were like he's not teaching spanish like is spoken in america it's it's european spanish more more like it but the they also spoke german but they've they actually complained like we never get to actually i want to teach german but no the schools don't want to waste they see it as a waste to teach german in schools we had yeah we had a german teacher who also taught latin

and then we had a bunch of spanish and french teachers and our french teacher taught us the kind of french they speak in canada because they're like you kids are never leaving the country let's face it wouldn't teach you parisian french a after high school it's right the prison for you one of my french teachers told us that quebec french is not real french i think he resented having to teach some of that bern says he's not gonna sell and the the Germans, after complimenting his lick spittle, they then make the offer. I love that the $100 million is written out like German signage style. It's like, oh yeah, a German person would write $100 million like that too.

It's a nice touch. It's a good font. And Burns' celebration animation is great. These Germans are bad businessmen. Like, that really, like, they see the tell on Burns that they are offering too much and they should really bring down their offer. They don't. And this will cause them more trouble as the episode progresses. Burns' great Daffy Duck-style reaction to this snubber is really amazing.

And great Harry Shearer really giving it in this episode. But the animation is good, too. Like, him swinging his arms and then bringing his, like really given in this episode but the animation is good too like him swinging his arms and then bringing his like arms inwards and like just with glee yeah he's about to start like running around the table and like skipping across his pond with it being uh grudgingly accepted we cut to the celebration which uh you know it's probably because i watched cabaret recently but it reminds me of the beer garden scene and that which is a rather dark scene uh tomorrow belongs to me sequence this is all happy with tubas and everything it's the we also watched that recently we've been watching a lot of like things with nazis in it for some reason it feels like everybody speaks german or english

when they need to and would naturally do so like that's something I really like about it and and also I I mean Michael I just think of him as Basil Exposition but uh the the main character in it Michael York he's pretty I think he's cute in it I think he's he's looking good as does I mean I also he's beautiful looks great in it yeah he's as handsome as a British man can be and I say this as being somewhat British myself. He's a bisexual dreamboat in that movie. Austin, I've decided to become bisexual. His voice is amazing, too. Yeah. But yes, the Germans invade the plant here.

I grudgingly accept now don't worry i think you'll find that these two gentlemen are as american as apple pie hunts and fritz well that's just john and frank it being orange frankfielder no they'll bring their own people in oh this ain't good we could all lose our jobs look at all those worried faces except for lenny he looks great this is the worst day of my life why is march that's also a good act break just to say that line I guess except for Lenny he looks great there's like no other wives there I guess Carl could have said it but it's funny to hear I love Marge's delivery of that he looks great and on the check it says their business

name is uh Zweireich Typen Incorporated and I don't know if it's a joke but the translation is Two Row Types Incorporated I don't know if you speak a joke but the translation is two row types incorporated i don't know if you speak german or know more about german let me know but that's the name on the check of their business nowadays they would just try to think of like a funny name for them well they'd be more worried about the legibility like bob bob caught it but on sd nobody would notice what that name is now now in hd i every time i watch a modern day simpsons i'm like man the the design amount they have to do in this now just for hd they're like nope has to be you everybody can read every book title on that shelf it's got to be jokes you need to see every picture

on that shelf and who's in it it's too much detail honestly you don't need that much detail it's distracting i already complained about this in uh road to cincinnati episode because i was like oh yeah the most recent uh simpsons episode we ever covered. And I think I was complaining about how every photo in the background you can see in clear detail what it is. You don't need to go that far. I don't think it's very good design, honestly. Yeah, I think you need some level of extraction when there are things in the background that you're not supposed to be focusing on. Plus, it has to be such an extra amount of work to like i don't know some how many extra hours is designing every photo back there to be legible

in hd you're just in a separate room you farm out just book titles that are on shelves i think they do that now because it's easier to just uh drag and drop pictures into the background in photo frames so that's why it's like way too crisp background artist you can just go like oh let's just add this and this and this but then again too much detail it's not necessary i agree you know some of the best use i've seen of that extra detail in season 33 has uh that i'll compliment is it feels like it's the artist sticking it in there and it's not from the script of like old references to stuff like for example when they're at the comic book store in the most recent season like they have you know posters from old radioactive man movies are like oh that is the radioactive man cover from an old episode they at least stuff it full of of old references at least

that plea that are pleasing to my eye they please the fan brain yeah uh i do like how they are raising the german flag in the background like they've been conquered yes yeah but uh something i didn't get as a kid is uh well i saw it as a kid and probably as like somebody in my 20s without a lot of like work and life experience like oh it's bad this happened and you know it's always bad when there's a buyout especially if it's foreign well this is the opposite of what normally happens where these are like benevolent uh new rulers who will treat their employees much better than burns and they're in fact they're giving them the european employee

treatment like they're going to be treated as well as german employees which is very well and they're going to invest in infrastructure in the place too like they yeah they're going to be great but we but the fear that's hitting them here me and you have been through that many times in our careers i think i'm just like oh is am i i gonna lose my job or we who's gonna lose their job here when these new people take over yeah i mean i've been through at least maybe three of these where it's like new people come in and you hear actually this is the best thing that could happen to us that's from the people who are getting the money from the buyout yes and then you're laid off yeah yeah it's like don't worry my bosses who agreed to the buyout says it's good thing so

that must mean it's true like what are they gonna say they're looking out for me what are they gonna say are they gonna say i've got to be honest with you this is not looking good for you guys but it's good for me so hey i mean uh i'm buying some houses you know i'm glad you asked if there will be layoffs we are thinking of cutting costs and it might happen. So thanks for asking about that. Yeah, they're not going to say that. I know when, I can name names now. When I was at, I was part of 1up.com, it was owned by IGN and they were like,

there was like a revolving door of presence. Nobody wanted to run that company. And then it was bought by this other company called Ziff Davis and so many meetings. And I knew there was trouble when I was like, oh, what's going to happen to 1up? And it's like, oh, we have nothing to say at this point. It's just like, ooh, I just started looking for jobs.

Oh, man. Jesus. Yeah. This is over a decade ago. And also, Quimby's there just to say Ich bin ein. Just to reference Ich bin ein Berliner one more time. He would do this like five more times on the show. Like, Ich bin ein Springfield swap meet patron.

That's the best one. I think that's the best one. You brought up how benevolent these guys are the germans i guess that's um kind of part of the joke because you expect them to go with the obvious joke of they're going to be super strict uh like nazis but no they don't go for that they're just very very friendly yeah like lenny says they made mistakes in the past but that's why pencils have erasers. And, you know, this is, you know, 50 years after the Pearl Harbor, I guess, when the war began for America, when this episode aired. And so it is conceivable that there were, you know, lots of World War vets walking around and who fought on lots of sides. I mean, like, Horst's age, honestly, he could have been a soldier, like, or in some part of the Nazi apparatus. I don't know.

Unless he's 68. What? He could be that. I don't think he looks. He's got white hair. I don't think he's that old. All right. Well, he certainly would have been in the Nazi youth, though.

I don't think he was garroting American soldiers. Well, no, I'm saying he's a clerk. You know, they had a lot of clerks who had to who had to sign the paperwork to murder a bunch of people. Listen, at the time, Nazi youth was like being on Game Pass. Everybody was doing it. Bob Mackie, Nazi youth equal Game Pass. Exactly. I'm sick of all you Game Pass freaks.

By the way, when I said Bob and I have been watching a lot of things with Nazis in it for some reason, it's because we watched Cabaret. That Nazis in it, of course. And it was a very haunting ending doesn't make you feel good especially in current times uh then we watched the rocketeer which has nazi killing in it which is pretty good oh and then we watched um last crusade indiana joseph's last crusade also had nazis in it not enough nazi killing though that's why after all this i was like i want to watch some real nazi killing that's why i showed him inglorious bastards

wow bob you've never seen it before? Never have Oh man it's great it really is I've only seen three Quentin Tarantino movies and that's one of them I'm turning in my straight 40 year old white man card. It's funny because I've seen way more Tarantino movies than Bob has it's like a reversal of typical

roles here. I know Nina's the one going like dude what you never seen this well yeah i have more hetero male taste in films than bob sometimes that's true well yeah like i've i've i'd seen goodfellas a million times you just watched it recently i've seen it twice but it's amazing oh yeah yeah but uh so yes they you know it is distracting that it goes to commercial break on lenny's face. And if you watch it on DVD with no commercials, Lenny gets the very next line in the next scene and his face is back to normal. Like that, it's a little distracting, but I guess they figure, you know, commercials would break it up.

You'd forget about it. He got that cut rate plastic surgery, I guess, because it only brought him so far. It bought him like a day of that. A day of happiness. Eye tuck or whatever he got. Eye tuck and lift. He was like, you know, Botox and fillers these days, they don't last forever either.

But obviously this is before that. I imagine the news made him so depressed that he just lost all of it within hours. He popped his stitches. And I guess, I mean, we don't call it plastic surgery anymore, I guess. I think we just call it cosmetic surgery, but maybe even that's outdated. No, I think cosmetic surgery is still a term that they use. So then they meet the new boss, which Phil Harmon is so great as horse tier.

I love this guy. I like when they brought him in just to play a guy. Like, he will just play a guy in Bart vs. Australia. Yeah. Like, oh, we love Phil. Let's get him in. And he doesn't have to be Troy McClure or Lionel Hutz. He can just be a guy that we can have him voice.

His design is really good, too. I just love the slightly saggy meat around his face. Very observational. It seems like Groening says, like, look at the waddle on that guy. It feels like he doesn't like how big his chin is. It's great, though. Well, I like it. It's also weird to see any character from this show or universe with a chin.

So it does take you out of it for a second. But then you realize, like, okay, he just got a big waddle. And it makes him less intimidating, right? It reminds people of, oh, I'll just play the clip. Guten Morgen. I am Horst. The new owners have elected me to speak with you because I am just play the clip. Guten Morgen. I am Horst. The new owners have elected me to speak with you because I am the most non-threatening. Perhaps I remind you of the lovable Sergeant Schultz on Hogan's Heroes.

Yeah, he does. What is the best way to an efficient plant? Whoa. Ooh. I don't know. Search me. Happy workers who feel secure at their jobs. So let's get to know each other better.

Do we have any alcoholics among us? Uh, me? Right here. I'm drunk right now. You'll be given a six-week treatment at our drying-out facility in Hawaii, after which you'll return at full pay. Oh, great! Okay, maybe I'll marry Elizabeth Taylor.

Lucky drunks. Also, we cannot overemphasize the importance of employee safety. We plan to have some frank discussions with your safety inspector. Yeah, talk it to him, horse. Hey, Homer, aren't you the safety inspector? Don't! Oh, man, that's great. Well, okay, first explanation on maybe i'll marry elizabeth taylor uh which definitely feels like an 80 yard late line so elizabeth taylor she met her seventh

husband larry fortinsky this is why there's the joke in the few at lisa's wedding that like heather locklear fortinsky is still large oh yeah okay it implies that in the future larry fortinsky married heather locklear as well we just saw her in a bad movie last night that's right in return the swamp thing from riff tracks live uh but so when elizabeth taylor went to the betty ford clinic in the late 80s she met larry fortinsky they're a much younger man and uh they started a relationship and were married october 1991 and of course that made a lot of uh tabloid fodder because you know it's her seventh it's her seventh marriage and it's a man who seemingly is in it for the money and is as the

wikipedia pointed out apparently they had a prenup that if he if they divorced before five years he'd get no money and he basically divorced her like five years in one month but he also had a lot of drug relapse issues but uh but what a wedding it had guests like liza minnelli eddie murphy and nancy reagan and macaulay culkin all there one wedding mac himself yeah why was he there well the seventh uh he was he was popular i guess so yeah well you know the seventh marriage is always the hardest so i don't blame them and you know when she died in 2011 he got left 800 000 bucks as well not bad though he only got to uh experience it for just a little while because he died in 2016 so i yeah so but that's so that's why

maybe i'll marry elizabeth taylor it is a a joke about elizabeth taylor marrying someone she met in rehab i've never seen hogan's hero so i had to look up this guy sergeant schultz so horse is just based off of this guy then right yeah and then sergeant schultz will be on the show his actor will be on the show he He plays Homer's guardian angel. No, that's Klink. Oh, that's Colonel Klink, not Sergeant Schultz. Schultz is the sidekick. I'm sorry.

I apologize. He's psychic? I thought I knew Hogan's heroes. Sidekick. Oh, sidekick. I thought there was a sidekick not to be on the show. I mean, if there were more seasons, we could have explored that. It was like, that's a show that can never be shown ever again.

But it was funny, like, by 1990, we were like, that's kind of weird. Yes, yeah. There's a show with, like, fun Nazis. Man, I mean, Cabaret, well, also, like, the Nazi jokes in this hit different now than in 1991, obviously, with creeping fascism more so every day and then on top of that like that's my cabaret like it's just like a put every second i was watching now i was like oh this this feels different than when i first watched it a long time ago uh yeah the abouts like oh well it's time for all the parties and fun and yeah the nazis but they're not that bad or you know they serve a purpose to the rich guys we can control them i imagine if you saw glorious bastards inious Basterds in what, 2009, you're like, oh, finally, Nazis, classic monsters

for movies, they're back. And now you're like, well, now I'm getting something else out of this. But yeah, it's so funny that he's like, I remind you of a Nazi. Doesn't that relax you?

Yeah, it does. Yeah. And when he goes, Uber emphasize, he shakes his fist during Uber. Yeah, yeah. That was a fun little turn there.

I like that. But no, Uber has claimed the term Uber. We no longer associate that with the Uber allies. That's right. Wow, man. And the Ubermensch. Wow. Despite having said, oh, you're going to call an Uber or whatever, I never think of it as the German word.

I just think of it as that the german word i just think of it as like just a name of an app wow you have to hire a car with uber see this is why i use lyft more so uh so then we cut to burns he's signing his big novelty check which that's a great little joke that's one big check and we see sm Smithers training for his new bosses and they've touched on this before. This isn't like a brand new thing for Smithers for this episode, but this I think is an important distinction. They make that Smithers is trying to learn how to suck up to his new bosses,

but it shows that he is more committed to burns than just climbing upwards in his job. Like it's his sucking up is now a thing unto itself it's because he loves burns not because he wants burns to give him good treatment in uh in his career that's true but i don't think uh you look and sharpen today and is real german i i don't think so i wanted to hear the they talk over it I wanted to hear what a gutsy decision is in German I never had to learn those lines in Duolingo yeah I guess that's not very useful and that's not like first or second stage of Duolingo no I just learned how to say the women are reading the newspaper

stupid stuff like that I'll never use it's what they do you know when I when I try to do a lingo for Japanese too they newspaper was right up in there. They loved those newspapers, yeah. It's like, well, it's the newspapers are dying, guys. You shouldn't front load newspaper in the year of foreign language learning. Do you remember how to say newspaper in Japanese? Shimbun? Yeah, there we go.

Shimbun? Shimbun, yeah. Okay. Yay. Yay. Sorry, no bird is going to praise you now but burn says tim smithers come here i want you which it's disputed that is supposed that is what is alexander graham bell says that he said to watson mr watson come here i need you it's i want you in uh oh sorry i want you but in bell's journal apparently he wrote down

mr watson come here i want to see you okay but i prefer i want you you know i was thinking the guy's name was watson but i was like that's a sherlock holmes man it's really he's a real man it's a real man too for for alexander graham bell yeah uh but, this is when Burns announces his plans to retire to Smithers. Smithers, come here. I want you. I wanted to give you something to remember me by. And I know you've always had your eye on this photo of Elvis in me. He was so good to his mother, sir.

Yes, but I couldn't understand a word that man said. Mr. Burns, Darsen, Burmard, and Darsen. How long, dog? Stop it. You're killing me, sir. Oh, sir, what will you do next? Well, first I'll get that new hip I've been hankering for. Then, who knows?

Beekeeping, boxing, bachyball. The world is my oyster smithers. Farewell. He basically dons Uncle Scrooge accessories. Yeah. It's not a doffing of the cap, but it's like a tapping of the top hat playfully. Yeah, it's a great pose. So I want to talk about this photo.

All right. Because I've got the history of this photo. So this photo of Burns and Elvis is based on a very famous photo of President Nixon and Elvis. Now, if you want the full story, there's a biography.com article, and it's called Elvis Presley and Richard Nixon, the story behind their famous handshake photo. It's very long, but it's very, very good. But I'll just give you the gist of it. OK, so this photo was from 1970. The story was Elvis was a collector of police badges and he wanted one from the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. In her memoir, his former wife said,

quote, with the federal narcotics badge, he believed he could legally enter any country both wearing guns and carrying any drugs he wished. So Elvis did not realize this was an honorary title. He could not use this to get through customs instantly in any country because Elvis, we know, he liked

the sauce, he liked the drugs, he liked eating fried foods, he was a man of vices. He's a pill popper. Yes, and a pill popper. But yeah, we know, he liked the sauce. He liked the drugs. He liked eating fried foods. He was a man of vices. Yes, and a pill popper. But yeah, that's why he wrote a four-page letter to Nixon saying how devoted he was to the anti-drug movement. He wasn't. He just wanted that badge so he could take more drugs. And he got it.

And carry around guns wherever he feels like it. Oh, and speaking of guns, when he visited the White House, Elvis gifted President Nixon a a 45 caliber pistol so that just lets you know when you meet the president bring a gun wow he's like here's a gun for you wow thank you and apparently nixon was like oh that's a fine gun i love it so uh yeah like nixon loved the gun so what a freaking weird time that you you can see why the boom uh gen x guys have been obsessed with that photo forever i mean it is it is a crazy photo which completely lost on us as children watching this we're like oh burns man elvis that's weird like we knew i knew who elvis was but i did not get this reference yeah i've never cared about elvis but i'm gonna see that new elvis movie soon

maybe they'll have that in there it's it's on streaming now I've heard it's a good one well you know you mentioned that movie uh when I saw this scene now I felt a tickle in the back of my brain of like wait didn't they do an Elvis Nixon movie recently because I didn't watch it I looked it up and boy this is why it's forgotten 2016 Elvis and Nixon is the name of it elvis played by michael shannon kevin spacey plays nixon oh weird 2016 okay yeah it's also that's bad casting i michael shannon i love it anything so i'm still tempted to watch it but it's like do i want to watch a new thing with kevin spacey in it playing nixon probably doing a terrible uh probably doing a terrible imitation of of uh president nixon probably well after being traumatized by watching moulin rouge for the first time recently i i swore to never watch another baz luhrmann thing but next week the the power of my building is gonna go off for six hours

so i'm like i'm gonna be out of here and that's a good time to watch an almost three hour long movie i want to see i want to know what uh Tom Hanks looks like in those like clump style prosthetics. That makeup looks crazy. I've seen clips now and his makeup, like, it looks like he's melting. When you really care about someone,

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Though, yeah, as a little kid, imitating elvis made me laugh every time like i was laughing as hard as smithers like there's just something and still makes me laugh it's such a cute scene it shows how they get along and i always love when characters in in a comedy make jokes and the other characters react to it by laughing. It's just very, it's charming. It's like a bit of kitsch pop culture, but it's also a touching scene between the two. And I'm thinking of when,

also when Burns imitates Nixon for Smithers, like they'll eat me alive, Monty. He's done both sides. Man, you know, that Elvis-Nixon movie, they should have just got Frank Langella to play Nixon again. So that way it pretty much exists in the Nixon versus universe.

You know, you had Frost versus Nixon, then Elvis and Nixon. Was it really called Frost versus Nixon? Well, it's Frost cross Nixon. It really, I mean, it's not really. I think it's just, are you reading like a Japanese title? Sure. Okay. Yes.

It's Frost Nixon. There you go. I think that's what people call it. I've been playing too many Japanese video games. It's Hunter Hunter. You don't say the cross another marker of smithers being gay is that the thing he loves about elvis is that he treated his mother well which as we know it's a stereotype of gay men that no straight man loves his mother or would care about her but it's true but a gay man they love their mothers also beekeeping boxing bocce ball. Did he just pull up an alphabetical list of things he can do?

Oh, yeah, you're right. He was just going down the list. Now he's onto the bees. I like that we eventually see all of these activities. Yeah, I never noticed that before. He actually says what he's going to do, and we see him do them. I think it's because in syndication, a lot of those were cut out. Yeah, it makes sense.

I can see you don't need to see the bocce ball scene no that was definitely i love it yeah meanwhile uh homer heads home and he's worried he asked lisa his his child his eight-year-old child teaches him where germany is and what its history is which again homer was born in like 56 in this at this time in the show and i just love is like good good, good, I'm learning. When he learns that Germany is in Europe. Yes. That's mind-blowing to him.

Well, and what a libertarian belief it is of just like, oh, because we send them money. Like it's people, it's a dumb conservative canard to say like, we send too much foreign aid. Like we do. No, we do not. No. too much foreign aid like we do no we do not no it's it's actually quite quite small compared to what it's like probably one one hundredth of the uh of our of our military budget i would guess i mean do you consider aids aid weapons because we send a lot of those well sure okay no i mean things that help people like food explode them vaccines yeah yeah but yeah this is where homer is worried

and uh this is where marge is nude and i it reese dunks on kirkland like drawn or naked again kirkland you you horny old dog you i want to hear the stories of you know next time if we ever talk to kirkland i'd i want to hear the stories about his dad uh photographing uh ladies for playboy uh marilyn rowe they call out yeah yeah and another one they joke that he his father shot john lennon with a photograph but then comes a joke that also feels different now because it's about how battlestar galactica is musty and forgotten and nobody would it means it's an old puzzle that has not been opened in a long time yeah it was a one season show at that point mostly famous because a teenager committed

suicide when it was canceled oh man i didn't know that it's not an urban legend it actually happened and actually there's actually at least one joke about it in mystery science theater i think it might be in space mutiny like when one of the ships flies by servo goes i'm gonna kill myself for the one brick by battlestar galactica oh wow man or something like that well because space mutiny uses some battlestar galactica yeah right yeah i think it is in space mutiny but yeah it happened in 1979 a 15 year old boy jumped to his death after battlestar galactica got canceled yeah yeah it's one of those things like the noid event where you think it's just oh that's just an urban legend it was made up no no a guy went that far a child

you know i can see through transference that that story of an obsessed geek committing self-harm led people to think that that happened with like dnd because they heard about it with battlestar galactica they're like oh and when people's dnd character dungeon dragon character dies they kill themselves because they're so distraught by it they're like it maybe it's a transference of urban legends there yeah was there ever a case of someone killing themselves or dnd not that i can recall though i i'm not a super expert on it it was the i think there were maybe things where a troubled youth did take their own life and a parent said they played dnd but they had many other issues than that going on in their life yeah probably though you know and homer stays up all

night uh with a puzzle he doesn't have social media to stare at all night when he can't sleep you know that's he should just be in bed staring at his phone should be listening to some let's plays i love him to sleep uh you know he could watch a let's play of building that battlestar galactica puzzle there have to you know i i'm certain there have to be puzzle let's plays oh yeah yeah and people also just eating all the pieces that's a different channel yeah puzzle mukbang i do watch mukbangs to go to sleep now uh homer probably shouldn't watch that it would give him too many ideas actually eating 64 slices of american cheese that's a mukbang video idea right there holy crap mean you made you've just made a great tiktok oh there you just have have to cut that scene of Homer, crop it portrait style, and say it's a mukbang for Homer, man. I'm submitting my script where Homer becomes a mukbang star.

It's going to be called Kiss Kiss Mukbang Bang. I'll jeans buy that right now. Yeah, immediately. Perfect. Is the title reference old enough, though? Well, you know, that movie was referencing an old saying in like noir books and stuff so it's no it's a pauline kale uh she said it in her reviews and stuff in the 70s so i think that's old enough okay okay yeah well i'm selling it now uh patent pending anina sorry were

you trying to get in oh yeah i just looked up on youtube and uh famous competitive eater matt stoney did a hundred layers of cheese challenge. So that's even more than Homer. Yeah. Making Homer look like a loser by comparison. Did he go blind? Probably. Well, these people train. Homer just was errantly eating cheese. Yeah, that's true.

And after a full day of probably eating a bunch of other stuff too. And while speaking of gross things, the spit on sticking the puzzle to his mouth the puzzle piece as it drops out that is that's so gross but homer's late for work i love the little cut between him confused waking up to then him worried while eating a donut like it's a really good match cut there and uh you know what this next line caused some controversy online that i did not know about until uh till 2020 and some tweets all right yeah which now look i've sometimes over bragged about i heard this correctly what other people i i know i know but i swear i never heard this as anything other than safe in up s-a-f-e-n-u-p up that's i mean that's what the captions which aren't always correct

uh tell me and i mean and that's what i still hear even though i know it's different some some people hear safe enough which would still work as a joke but i prefer homer making up the word safe in yeah yeah which but so i i double check this online. John Vini himself was asked about this. Is it safe-in or is it safe-enough? Safe-enough or safe-enough? And he said, quote, It was so long ago, I'm not totally sure is this a memory or a deduction, but I believe it to be safe-in-up.

It's the kind of stuff we were doing then safe and up safe in up okay well that's what i hear that's what's in the captions yeah yeah no so i'm i'm saying i was always shocked some people thought it was safe enough but oh okay i did hear it as safe in up uh the even back then i mean logically it follows what he tells lenny like hey lenny get safer what does he tell lenny i'm sorry yeah stop being so unsafe right and he's like you safe and up like smitty safe and up yeah so he's like telling people to be more safe yeah not saying smitty you are the correct amount of safe yeah but it this this all apparently happened because uh the simpsons quote of the day twitter account you know tweeted the joke and had safe in up and some people in the replies multiple many people in the replies like i think you mean

safe enough and i was like i don't think so and then eventually it got to the point of adding jay cogan and john v and that's when cogan and v wait weighed in. Those poor guys. I hate whenever a debate breaks up within the replies of that account. They must be so sick of this. You know, I think Twitter, I think Simpsons writers accept that they're on Twitter to be asked questions like this by people like me, even. I totally understand that people mishear lines. They should probably admit to themselves more when they made a mistake. Like the whole infamous viking line people say like well it's it's funnier if it's like a metaphor so therefore

i'm right it's like no no you were wrong just admit it it's fine we can't write this up again yeah yeah i know i know though at least the viking one it's like we all agree what the words are it's just what it means this one yeah it's i just think it's so much funnier hearing homer say just make up a word he's he's trying so hard to be safe uh in front of horse that he makes up the word safe in like yeah it's uh safe enough uh not not as funny but yeah so anyway that's that's what john vd says folks were said in 2020 so uh that's, we're going to go with that. Reliable narrator. And this, oh God, anytime I say the word inelegant,

it's only because I learned it from this episode. I never learned it from like a real book or anything. Did you know the word elegant? Yeah, I knew that. Well, then you can figure it out on your own. Sure, but I mean, it's like, oh, well, unelegant. I mean, at nine.

That's impossible. At nine, I oh well unelegant i i mean it that's impossible at nine i probably thought unelegant was a word you know until until hearing this i love this line i like whenever i stumble my words i always think my english is how you say inelegant he's he put like he really lays into inelegant yeah it's very it's very well spoken hartman is so so dang good at this uh but this leads homer to being invited to a meeting which i've been in the homer position too of like this meeting isn't so friendly i know what this meeting's about like this is not gonna be a nice meeting we were in these meetings about like five uh or so years ago where it's like the boss is like you know what i don't like bullshit i'm a straight shooter but it years ago where it's like the boss is like you know what i don't like

bullshit i'm a straight shooter but it turns out no it's like you just want us to lie to you and not say what's on our minds lies are important here not yes but do you have to talk about what initiatives you spearheaded sometimes yeah yeah actually no i well or or you have to honestly these meetings are not as well run as the germans in this, in my experience, too, in me and Bob's experience. Because I think when our new boss came in in late 2016, it literally was just asking us, so what is a games writer's job? What is that exactly? And you just have to explain your day to the person because they literally don't know. And he was from another country, right?

He was, yes. What was that? Yeah, I think it was. I don't want to say his name. I don't know yeah and he was from another country right he was yes what was that yeah i think it was i don't want to say i don't want to say his name but it i think it was something from the netherlands area yeah yeah it's a if i say his name his name is so specific everyone will know the exact person we're talking about because it's probably the only name of his that comes up on linkedin i would think. He's from West Belgistan. But yes, Homer is called to a meeting. Oh, what am I going to... Hey, you! Stop being so unsafe! Smitty, safe and up.

Homer, could we have a word with you? No. I must have phrased that badly. My English is how you say inelegant. I meant to say, may we have a brief friendly chat? No. Once again, I have failed. We request the pleasure of your company

for a free exchange of ideas. No! You've been safety inspector for two years. What initiatives have you spearheaded in that time? Uh, all of them. I see. Then you must have some good ideas for the future as well. I sure do.

Such as? Well, uh, well, I wish the candy machine wasn't so picky about taking beat up dollar bills. Because a lot of workers really like candy we understand homer after all we are from the land of chocolate the land of chunk yes uh i know this very well because this is on i think the first simpsons album the first like uh songs in the key of springfield this entire bit so uh you've been safety inspector for blank years like that's where the the track starts burned in my brain that line

delivery because of that cd well that is two years that means that the series at this point is happening in real time because he gets the job in homer's odyssey at the start of season one so they're treating it as two years since he got the job which is is pretty funny they actually are counting things in real time though bart will turn 10 in the next episode so not exactly real time it sounds it feels like all of homer's qualms with the plant are vending machine related because we had the no more apples in the vending machine please in uh when flanders failed that's right yeah food food is the really only interface homer has i mean the entire point of this scene is homer is terrible at his job and

should lose it probably like even even the very understanding and friendly germans are like this guy is it's the job for safety we can't keep this guy he's worse than all the alcoholics they sent off to hawaii yes there's never any homer should have raised his hand during that scene honestly you know sorry no there's never any closure to the vending machine problem either no it's just talk about it you know this vending machine this vending machine isn't really homer's problem it's it is more homer's mistake than the vending machine like it's uh though you know what and then tartar sauce is his way to the top as well so really it's only food that gets homer uh any anything at work i always love when the show remembers homer's job as a safety

inspector like if it's not just any random job at the plant uh at the nuclear panner plant it's it's do it's safety inspector uh and so yes this then leads to a very famous scene from the show that it's so great because David Silverman, not the director of it, but is now the supervising director on the series. It got fully storyboarded apparently, and he just thought it needed a little something extra. And so I don't know where the guy found the time, honestly, but he's like, I'm just going to re-storyboard the entire thing myself, do a ton of layout for it, and in some cases fully animate the action. Like Homer Skip, that is, every frame is apparently David Silverman.

Like he's tweeted out, if you search his app on Twitter, Tubatron and Chocolate, and you will see he's tweeted out like the pencil test he did for several moments from this and it's just amazing to look at like these are pure silverman drawings they're they're they're great and it's the first level in the simpsons game yeah yeah at least the xbox 360 won the one i played yeah the animation doesn't get too uh wacky throughout this episode like there aren't too many um like off model drawings except for like that lenny i guess but this sequence alone has like such strong posing and like the breaking of the character model thing that they then apply to more episodes in the future like homer goes to college i think it kind of starts here it drives macraean crazy yeah yeah but it's so great yeah i love it too yeah no the homer and homer goes to college he's pretty much the homer from this uh land of chocolate he's so giddy his mouth gets so wide his fingers do little twiddly things so many twiddles yeah that's a

silverman signature and the music well the temp track for this scene was the overture from the 1988 film tucker the man in his dream the francis ford coppola movie alf clausen wrote a sound alike that is sound alike in the most precise legal terms yeah like I put on the Tucker song and I'm like oh it's the same song oh no it's slightly different yeah

he does this exact same thing with the Cape Fear music where you think it's like oh they just bought the music no Alf Clausen did a tiny tiny adjustment just like

he did with Golden Slumbers yeah later when they have to reuse the Golden Slumber scene like he is so good at making sound alikes that are just legally distinct but barely distinct to your ear worth his weight in gold with that yeah i mean i i have a little clip from the original overture music which

listen to the five percent difference here people Yeah, at times I'm like, no way it's the same. Oh, wait, it's different. Yeah, it's like five notes in a row are the same, but that sixth note, oh, it goes in a different direction. It swerves into the Tucker Lane, then swerves out. Like, oh, we're going to soon. Turn out, turn out. It's Castle Annette on the commentary.

He all but says, like, oh, he ripped it off. He's like, he did an homage to it. Yeah. And, hey, Tucker, good movie, bad movie? I don't know. Me neither. It's a Francis Ford Coppola movie, so probably watchable, I'm guessing. Well, Jeff Bridges stars in it.

He's always good but yes i've never i mean well 88 coppola not always the best i mean he wasn't making jack yet sure that's he's seven years from jacking in uh that should have been the title i mean sorry the tagline jack in this summer it's about a guy who just yeah that would make sense the poster is him in front of a car i i i admit i didn't even read the wiki uh explainer on it i'm just thinking about jack now the boy who couldn't slow down this whole sequence is is great so beautifully animated but the real topper is that it happens in compressed time we find out in in the next clip here mr simpson mr simpson oh oh i'm sorry we were talking about chocolate that was 10 minutes ago

i think i did pretty good in there. Yeah, you know those Germans aren't so bad. Sure, they made mistakes in the past, but that's why pencils have erasers. Attention, workers. We have completed our evaluation of the plan. We regret to announce the following layoffs, which I will read in alphabetical order. Simpson, Homer, that is all.

Yeah, he really, he pushed Horst to the limit. Yeah. Horst sounds alarmed and angry. And I like any joke on any show where we cut away from a daydream to see what was happening while the character was daydreaming. They've done it like ten more times and they find a new twist every time.

But ten, ten minutes Homer was sitting there going with his eyes closed going like they they need to yeah burns did commit him to they they need to do more than just let homer go like yeah this was like it's such a fresh joke back then too like showing what is going on when the person is fantasizing and i reference that was 10 minutes ago like so often like if i got too distracted by something or like a conversation goes on to a tangent for too long well yeah henry you mentioned burns institutionalizing homer i i assume that because they waive constitutional

rights to get the stock that's why burns couldn't have homer committed that's true in the episode that no longer exists right right also also in homer's dream he could eat chocolate everywhere take a bite out of lampposts and dogs but his the crowning bit to it is that chocolate is half price he still has to buy it and buy the chocolate and yet they couldn't get their hershey highway sign gag in the show i'm so happy they didn't get that crappy joke in there like literally crappy joke it's like yuck hey uh a cooler heads prevailed there i like uh also that they have a pedantic argument on the commentary of saying like well it doesn't look like it's all made out of chocolate you know like look at that and it's structurally unsound there's got to be like candy infrastructure right i mean look a candy coated uh chocolate like

a say uh an m&m you would still call that chocolate like uh the like the stone streets that's candy coated it's sugar coated but it still is chocolate also in that scene carl's trying out a new blue shirt for some reason he's like i'm gonna wear a blue shirt for this it's fashionable but yeah to say that's why pencils have erasers as there's a reaction to nazi germany and the history of the third reich like that is uh quite quite a joke so we cut back to home everybody's trying to be cheap starting with carrot cat food that is 80 88 carrot. You know, I'm not a pet owner. My Googling was inconclusive if vegetarian pet food is a good. Some websites said, no, vegetarian cat foods, or for example, cat foods getting better. And then others were saying, do not feed your cats vegetarian food. They need meat.

They're going to die. Like, so. I don't think it's good for them. I couldn't tell. They're carnivores. They need animal protein. That's what I would think too. Now I'm just thinking about, again, we're just talking about the riffraffs we saw last night.

But there was an entire short about the food cats have to eat and that's why their teeth are shaped that way. We learned about teeth shapes. Yeah. This really shows you the writers where they exist economically, where they did these scenes where the family has to adjust their budget. And they went around the writer's room like, does anybody's family, did they ever have a budget growing up and nobody's family did? And I'm like, you all went to Harvard. Yeah, all these Harvard guys.

I remember the family with bills spread out on the table, worrying. Oh, what is that purple sludge they're eating in this scene? I don't know. I like how when Marge comes in with her split hair, Snowball too has clearly abandoned the cat food and is on the table licking out of the cereal bowl. And she just picks her up and then drops her on the ground. Yeah, that is great detail.

And ash content in cat food is a real thing. It just happens to be way too much ash. Seems dangerous for kitties. Or maybe they're not eating enough ash. Who knows? I don't know. Their kidneys get clogged up constantly. I also like lisa anytime

i end up with a a soap bar that gets smaller and smaller i think of i think of lisa's economic use of soap slivers me too you know i'm happy to say that i now make enough money that when the soap bar gets too small to be functional it goes right in the trash daddy warbucks here yeah yeah i remember when uh when bob told me to throw away the the tiny slivers and i was like you can still use it he's like no we can afford new soap we've made it baby expender top of the world you can spend a whole new shiny dollar on a bar soap i just bought a 300 electric razor wow when you see my face touch it oh you're gonna get plenty yes uh well meanwhile bart is doing the economical thing of reading comics and not buying them which

you know what it's rude to do in a comic book store but if you're going to like say a books a million and go to their comic section they want you to just read them all that's why if they didn't want you to they'd seal them in plastic like they would later do with a lot of japanese comics yeah the manga section the manga section is so full of teens just reading without buying them i was going to bring that up uh i i have too much fear of being yelled at to ever have done that in my life so uh when i go to the manga section and i see the teens just hanging out i'm like i envy you is there a term brazen. Is there an English term for doing that? Because there is one in Japanese. It's tachiyomi, which literally means standing and reading,

which makes it easy to make signs like no tachiyomi. But English? No? Nothing? I mean, this is not a library is the sign you'd see. But I can't think of just a word for it. No looky-loos. It's strange how there isn't a term for it.

You'd think there would be by now especially because businesses hate it like yeah well the literacy rate is much smaller in america that's true yeah i think that that was one of the first real generational divides i felt the my a minor one but when uh i worked in a movie theater that was right next to a books of millions it was in an amc theater attached to the mall the orange park mall and there's a book civilian right next to it and a number of times i'd have my lunch break and i would be so uh tired and worn out i'd be like i don't care i'm gonna go to the comic section and just read comics during my lunch break here in full outfit from amc and i would grab you know usually a marvel or also like a vertigo comic something like that read that there

maybe why the last man no i would buy those i would not i would not steal by the last man no i wouldn't do that but anyway i'd be reading those comics there and i'd be like yeah it's time you know it's loser place to read my american comics and then slowly but surely people like five to ten years younger than me were surrounding me reading Japanese comics instead. And I was like, wow, it's really that told me that it was really booming in America that in a suburban Florida books a million, dozens of teens reading Japanese comic books. That's why I realized they had gone mainstream. So then after Marge tells Bart he she wants him to take baths this is when we got to Homer doing a

shockingly imitatable act uh which I'm surprised they they have that in there yeah without getting uh hurt yeah I think they said now they're like oh if we did this now he'd totally get zapped but at the time they were like that's too far yeah you're right yeah the the temperance of mid-season three they won't have Homer be fully electrocuted and screaming yet. He's like seconds away from being zapped back into the prehistoric times. It's true. When I've got to fetch toast out of there, I yank the cord out. Not today, Satan.

We cut to Burns. He's very bad at making friends. He's playing bocce ball in a park he owns which sounds like he you know uh like like rockefeller before him he just started investing in owning owning parks and stuff with his name on it but this shows you that burns gets none of the fulfillment from philanthropy you know he feels nothing for that but he is starting with bocce ball like he said and uh and uh this is one of the last time one of the last seasons where uh harry shearer will scream as mr burns because he plays him older as the seasons go on and he's also

getting older but i loved like him screaming about this is my part get out yeah and aban jasper are there but do you know talk about how things would be different a couple seasons later that would be old jewish man with them now instead it's just like some old guy yeah rando they have more notable old people one day burns could bury an ex-wife in his park there as a tax write-off yeah wouldn't that be the sweetest thing he could do yeah i forgot it's for tax reasons yeah i think it's funny but i also think people have very strange conspiracy theories like he buried them documents in there no i haven't heard that yeah i've heard i've seen like a lot of retweets it's like well very yes very funny joke guys but come on but i'll steal a line from our choppo pals but i

think they joked that it's like now that's winning the divorce in the end you bury her on your property like we cut back to smithers uh i think the germans rightly identify that smithers would be good as a caregiver i think but that i guess it does kind of upset his business climb up the ladder though he's like you know he's probably i'm certain he's paid the same salary if not better by the germans they're so friendly and nice and this is a big deal for workers to have free child care at the office because until your kids are five they're your problem then they're the state's issue yeah once they're at the door this is a good thing to have at the power plant i know it's supposed to emasculate smithers certainly to a degree but it's it's just a good thing like yeah every i'm sure parents in our office can tell and our

audience can tell us like yes child care very expensive uh having one parent not work also expensive and very few businesses actually offer anything like this in america this would have been a good time for a little maggie scene but maybe there was no time for that oh homer's been fired so she wouldn't be staying i guess so yeah it's missing maggie if you know i guess uh we're just a few a few months away from eindrand's uh home for tots school for tots so this is where Burns calls Smithers Smithers actually is like excited to be invited somewhere he's like what I yeah it's probably the first time Burns I mean that shows you how lonely Burns is I think too that he's like oh uh Smithers would hang out with me it's funny earlier in the season uh Smithers

asked for permission like to ask about Burns's weekend, he goes, a bit familiar, but I'll allow it. So it feels like Burns is so needy, he's just calling Smithers at this point to have a drink with him. Before that is a scene where Burns is boxing, which I personally love because Burns boxing is exactly what I look like when I do Muay Thai,

especially when I'm partnered with someone twice my size, which happens sometimes out of necessity. And whenever I'm partnered with someone twice my size which happens sometimes out of necessity and whenever I'm like partnering against a huge guy I always think in my head you're going down my friend because that's how I feel with my skinny little arms. They have to go easy on me like another scene I think of a lot is Burns trying to bunt a baseball and the ball knocking him into the fence because that's what happens to me when when a large and powerful guy does a push kick into me. I just weigh too little. I'm never the guy punching or kicking Nina.

It's important to note that. No, I could easily knock you back. Ooh, okay. No, I mean, you just hit a really cool milestone with your boxing, haven't you? Oh, yeah. I've been doing 10 years of Muay Thai. I think because I had to take breaks during the pandemic for obvious reasons. Like I took an 18 month long break. Then I got

vaccinated and went back to the gym, took little breaks here and there due to Omicron and all that. But yeah, I'm pretty sure I've done it for 10 years now and I'm going to keep going. Muay Thai is so cool. It was one of my favorite things to watch. When I watched UFC or MMA, I should say, not the brand name but the actual name of the sport makes martial arts the the muay thai fighters especially the brazilian muay thai guys i really love their style like especially uh wanderlei silva his uh his knees to the head were ferocious in in the mma fights yeah in case people are wondering the difference between muay thai and kickboxing is you can use your knees

and elbows, which you can't in kickboxing, so it's way more intense. Those elbows can cut, man. Oh, yeah. If you get hit right on the corner. It's dangerous. I can speak from experience. My wife has very sharp elbows. Yeah. They're extra pointy for some reason. We'll get them sanded when we live together. Yeah, I need, like, elbow reduction surgery.

Yes. Yeah, what inspired me to get into Muay Thai is King from King of Fighters. I just wanted to be cool like her. Man. Now, boy, those elbows give you a real advantage in, I would bet, in your Muay Thai classes. Well, when I'm actually sparring, I can't use them. It's too dangerous. I get all the elbows, folks.

This is a cry for help. I'm not kidding. Call the police. I just like to nudge him a lot when we're watching things and i get things when i when i spot my favorite references yeah when we see a movie together i'm like i hope there are no references you've been having a hard time lately uh seemingly burns paid that boxer to get beaten up by him like yes sir mr but uh and so yes then uh we have a quick bit of

the uh increasingly bad problems in the plant it's kind of upping the stuff from uh the blinky episode of burns running for governor it uh no that shouldn't be that shouldn't i say that sometimes i say well that shouldn't be though you know what? It's on the Germans. They offer $100 million before you check out the plant. Like, maybe do a diagnostic on the plant before you pay the $100 million. I mean, when Horst is having the meeting with the employees, there's like a green goo leaking into a pan on the floor. Yes. The warning signs were there immediately. Also, when they see, like, Achtung, Liebe, Raccoons the the raccoon design is great too it's like very

matt graining uh cartoony raccoons yeah they would draw a raccoon with a little bandit eye masks it's super cartoony very cute they're adorable yeah uh and so this is when we see burns with his bees which i guess is how he is channelinging what he used to feel in the plant of controlling people. Let's learn about Burns' bees. That's right. Gather the nectar, my little drones, and make the honey. Honey for your children. Fools! Ready for that drink, sir? Just a a second smithies let me introduce you to the gang that's buzz that's honey and you see that queen over there her name is smithies

that's very flattering sir but we should go several bees are stinging me this is before uh 22 short films when uh you need booze you know allergies can pop up unexpectedly that it doesn't necessarily more so you probably know you have an allergy to bee stings much earlier than this but it could have come up overnight let's say that but yes it actually is non-canon with 22 short films it's true you know i don't think i ever got stung by a bee until uh like a little over a year ago and that's how i i was happy to learn I was not allergic to it. Still haven't. How was it your fault?

I'm going to blame the victim here. I'm blaming the bee here. So what happened was I was actually shopping at the Target near you, Bob. In the bee aisle? In the bee aisle. No, but I. Ooh, fresh honey. On my morning walk, I must have walked by where a bee was.

There's flowers and stuff in the residential areas around there and so basically i am shopping in the uh in the produce section and all of a sudden my arm like my elbow crook really like itches and i'm like what's it that doesn't feel good and then i look down and i'm like ah bee and i like drop the uh i think it was grapes i had in my hand and i was like oh no but uh sadly the poor the poor guy was had already been kind of crushed in between my arms uh i think he got caught in my sleeve and then uh didn't know when he was stinging me in his last ditch attempt to get out of there but sadly our friend buzz didn't make it but he was gonna play anyway

because b's done you get him a favor if anything yeah he'd have swift or death uh it only it only itched a little bit i barely even had a weld i've i have much worse reactions like a mosquito bite or whatever so i that was that was uh i learned recently i actually love bees i'm i'm never afraid of them uh i'm fine with wasps too like i've let wasps just like eat like ice cream out of my hand because they're cute but I was stung by a bee for the first time ever last year I was walking through a park in my sandals and I guess I got too close to a bee and I felt a stinging burning sensation in my foot and I looked down I checked and I thought it was like a dry piece of grass that got stuck in me but no it was like the end of a stinger and I almost I felt betrayed by the bees I'm like hey I like you guys I I uh support you guys why did you do this and I felt bad by the beast. I'm like, hey, I like you guys. I support you guys. Why did you do this?

And I felt bad because that means the body was going to die because of me. I come out of this stingless. Bob has still never felt the sting. Yeah, I'm glad I found out I'm not allergic to them at least. And you know what? It wasn't that bad.

Like you, Henry, like I've had, I felt worse pain. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, the, I think that Burns doesn't know the gay joke he's making by saying the queen is smithers i think he doesn't no i don't think they then uh they head out to go drink we cut to bart making a prank phone call i don't think bo problems that funny it's not uh they're grousing on it on the commentary like that's

not that we could have thought of better it doesn't need to be that funny because the whole point of this fall for it the whole point of this is not like the prank call it's like the fallout of the prank call and what you think is going to happen afterwards and that mo can't read these obviously fake names as a setup for a joke that's true uh but yeah uh the the bo problem thing happens and then marge is like you have to go to mo's to get your father. And this seemed to be a very common experience for this generation of writers, especially Dana Gould, where it's like, your father is drunk. You, the child, must go get him. At a bar.

At a bar, yes. Yeah. I guess to a certain generation of kids with alcoholic fathers, it was like, well, it's just what you do. That's where daddy is. I mean, how many kids in the hall sketches are about an alcoholic father like i'd say half of them well now they bring their kids to the bar so it's better yes and we love it don't we oh yeah just put those strollers wherever i don't have to walk around them or anything this is the this is the hashtag child free podcast i'm kidding you can have fun give the baby some beer try it i'll knock him out for sure yeah i i'm not saying to give

children alcohol i'm saying it oh man when we went to minneapolis uh we were at a brewery once and a whole mommy group came in there were like six to eight women all carrying babies, like gathering around a table. That was when we were about to leave anyway, so not too bad. That's good. Yeah, I mean, party's over when the mommy crew shows up to the brewery. We realize that if anyone needs to get drunk, it's parents, so we don't blame you. Sure. It's understandable.

I agree. And it is hard to get daycare, so. Yeah, yeah. As we mentioned before, yeah. And the state gets mad when you get drunk around your kids at home suddenly it's abuse uh you so when i was a kid and first saw this episode i really did like me and my mom both like gassed like oh my god bart's gonna meet mo is he gonna get caught what happens like this it it doesn't play as this scene now but as the first time of

mo meeting bart it feels like a huge deal in the first viewing. And then you find out they have a rich history together. Yes. And then Mo is so stupid, he can't recognize Bart even then. Here, I got the quick clip. Excuse me, I'm looking for... Wait a minute. I know that voice.

If it isn't little Bart Simpson, I haven't seen you in years. That's right. That's my pup. Oh, Little Bart. We hear all about your monkey shines. Bet you get into all kinds of trouble he don't even know about. Am I right? Huh? Am I right? Yeah, well, I make some prank fun calls. Oh, that's great. Hey, would you sing that old song you used to sing for me? Mo, for you, anything.

Bart's like, oh, you're tricked. You don't recognize me at all. Even telling him, like, I do prank phone calls. Mo just doesn't get it. Yeah, even when Bart is in the clear, he kind of flirts with danger. Like, I make prank phone calls. He's like on you don't you don't recognize this voice yeah it wouldn't be bart if he didn't uh try to fly too close to the sun uh that's this is the best mo has ever been with a child that's true yeah he's uh much uh i guess we'll get to it at the end of the season 13

mo better mo baby blues it's more about how terrible he is with children yeah but he loves bart's uh bits he likes giving him candy adorable yeah it's well now now i fully understand how mo feels of like oh wow i saw my friend's kid when they were a baby and now they're 10 which feels like no time to me but is all the time in the world to the child and they don't remember me like that that kind of exchange like i remember you used to sing the song when you were like three remember that song kid it's alarming how fast children grew up honestly no i uh i just ran into a former co-worker who i worked with in you know 14 years ago and i remember when his daughter was born and i walked by him dropping her off to her

first day of middle school he's like uh and he nor i was like wow she's in middle school now jesus christ it's crazy i have a nephew who is rapidly aging my nephew and i don't see very often because i don't go home very often but i know he likes one piece a lot and so does his 40 year old uncle so that's cool that kid's gonna it's so cute how much he loves you maybe one day he'll make it to berkeley or vancouver and visit us he could be listening right now that's true he sounds like a good kid don't tell people what i say about your mother you know you know what's uh a dark joke here that only registered for me this time homer is passed out at the bar like he's drunk to the point of falling asleep. That's really drunk. He's drunk enough to tell off his old boss.

You know, our pals on the Sloppy Boys, they just did a podcast where they did a ridiculous drink, which was Sidewalk Slammers, which is four loco with a 40, and you mix them together. Could they podcast after that? Barely. And then I'm listening to their Sidewalk Slammers episode. You'll hear the whole story. But they talk about that they poorly planned their day that they do a 90-minute podcast getting super drunk on Sidewalk Slammers. And then they're like, well, time to go out for dinner.

And they go out to a pretty nice place. And part of their story is one of their friends falls asleep at the table. And the maitre d was like is your friend okay sure yeah well he can't sleep here i'm sorry we can't you guys can be pretty drunk but you you can't fall asleep at a table and he had to leave restaurants hate that i hate to be panic about continuity here but didn't bart go to flaming moe's he was wearing that t-shirt he had the shirt he did have the shirt but he wasn't at the place i think it was a 21 and up establishment it had the bouncer and everything but bart did have the shirt it's possible he went there and

bought it or he bought a bootleg it says i got toasted at flaming moe's that's true well let's say he snuck in and stole it sure yeah i think i think moe had like uh given the shirts like target or whatever. He was getting into deep level marketing with the Mo brand. Also, Mo was so busy then. Man, he can't meet every patron of the restaurant, too. Yeah, you can use it. This then cuts to Burns and Smithers pulling up, which Burns is driving himself.

He's a motorist. He just deteriorates uh sort of like certain presidents uh over the years yeah yeah that's true well he he's been learning new skills during his time off here botch a ball and beekeeping and boxing maybe he learned how to drive and then forgot i will say in in in very staged events joe biden does drive a car and talks about how much he loves driving the car apparently in general presidents are not presidents are not allowed to just drive like they shouldn't yeah in general it's very dangerous yeah yeah i mean but also they shouldn't

be riding bikes if they're 78 though he i mean i'll give it to him uh that you know donald trump couldn't ride a bike as good as biden can a bike. Oh, no. Donald Trump has never driven a car. I don't think that's ever happened. Can you imagine that? What was that photo of him in the truck? When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. to tell our clients that we really care about you. We care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs.

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Yeah. And people made like the Simpsons meme out of it. Like the white guy drives like this. Black guy drives like this. That's a good one. I just want to say Burns' outfit here is great. Like the Argyle sweater and the purple ascot and the lavender blazer. It's a really good design.

Yeah. Casual Burns is great. I love his look. He's not right for Moe's though. I want to see that on Steal This Look tweets and learn how to steal it. I want that. He's not dressed for slumming. And so it cuts back to Bart singing Teddy Bear Picnic.

I'm going to say I think Al Jean misremembers this on it. Because the lip sync is Teddy Bear Picnic. Right. My theory is they wanted good chip lollipop but they couldn't clear it so they went with this but then they eventually got good chip lollipop for the next year's trios of horror yeah just 10 months later shirley temple will sing it before being eaten by king homer i love his animation is like really cute his little hopping around while singing it he earned that crusty bar that mo gives him he really he he put a lot into that should have been a butterfinger uh yeah you know i bet fox would

have put the kibosh on that if it's vertical in it'd be too direct an ad what if there was a snickers at that same night that's true which by the way bob and i did try butterfinger because you can buy them in canada they're everywhere in canada yeah do they taste like old butterfingers are they the old recipe i remember what they used to taste like. It tasted fine though. I liked it. I have no point of comparison. It didn't taste that different. Right. It didn't taste that different to me and it was easier to clean out of my teeth. So maybe they improved that aspect of it. I remember liking it way back in the 90s when I first tried it, when it was only in the US. And trying it now, I'm like, it's fine, but I don't it when it was only in the u.s and trying it now i'm like it's fine but

i don't know what it was like before i i haven't dug around much in the candy section but just casually in like grocery stores i i still don't see a butterfinger people have said like do you see a butterfinger anywhere the most reason was since we did our big butterfinger talk episode in the sweets and sour marge i did see there was butterfinger ice cream somewhere recently i was like okay i guess the butterfinger brand is still active with ice cream i think it was the woke moralist who took away the butterfingers as the word bud in it too gross but uh but so yes this is when burns tries to uh buy off homer with some cheap domestic beer and it doesn't go well smith who is this saucy fellow?

Homer Simpson, sir. Sector 7G, recently terminated. That's right, I lost my job so that you could have another hundred million dollars. Let me ask you something. Does your money cheer you up when you're feeling blue? Yes. Okay, bad example.

So let me ask you this. Does your money ever hug you when you come home at night? No. And does it ever say you when you come home at night? Why, no. And does it ever say, I love you? No, it doesn't. Nobody loves you. Nobody loves you. You're old and you're ugly.

Nobody loves you. Good heavens, Smithers. They're not afraid of me anymore. Hey, Mr. Burns, did you get that letter I sent? Letter? I don't recall any letter. That's because I forgot to stamp it. Oh! Oh, that kid slays me.

That was no accident. Let's get out of here. Na, na, na, na. Na, na, na, na. Hey, hey, hey. Goodbye. What good is money if you can't inspire terror in your fellow man i've got to get my plant back oh there's so much i love about that encounter uh i love uh burns just

instant yes yeah it's like does your money ever cheer you up just immediate yes like yeah why would you ask me that of course and then his takeaway is i need to find love that's not his takeaway that's what any other sitcom would do this sitcom is like no i need to make these people afraid of me the issue is they thought they could talk to me like that not that i'm lacking love in my life if i what if you can't inspire terror then it's not worth it yeah it's like it's not that he's lonely it's that he wants people to be too scared to tell him he's lonely. And I do use his quote, that was no accident, a lot in my life. You do, yes. But yeah, I was saying this earlier.

This taught me an instructive lesson, and I'm going back to it now. And I'm like, oh, this is so great because it's like every rich person, you think like Mark Zuckerberg, why don't you just never work again, dress yourself up like a mime, and go windboarding or whatever like you like doing? No, he's got to be having meetings every day. He's worth $11 zillion, but he still has to have people show up to meetings. He still has to have people tell him how nice Metaverse looks because he can't just be happy with himself and his wife and his family. He has to have people groveling under him.

This is why J.K. Rowling can't just leave Twitter. She could be happy with all the Harry Potter riches, riches but she's like no i'm right and you have to listen to me nobody told me i was wrong before twitter happened and it just blew her mind so this this speaks to the mania of all very rich people but notch actually is lonely and eats love he does yeah he's uh he's got his candy house hey he pointed out the candy house came with the house okay i'm not defending notch no uh yeah yeah bob you're so right like what homer is saying homer telling off burns it's the fantasy but thanks to things like social media you actually can just be in someone's replies and say yeah to billionaire, hey, you suck or like nobody loves you or you've been divorced five times or whatever and just hurt them and make them feel bad.

And that's all we've got sometimes. Or like post a picture of them with Jeffrey Epstein. Yes. Yeah. It's very easy to do. But yeah, I think like people like the MySpace guy who I hear, he just has fun everywhere with all of his money. He's not doing startups. He's not a CEO somewhere else.

He's like, I have lots of money. I'm going to have fun because life is finite. But I guess modern billionaires don't think that. It's like, no, I will be uploaded to the metaverse. I will never die. That's true. Nina, go ahead. Bart doing that, did you get my letter thing now, is people asking rich people about BOFA and LIGMA

yes yeah oh yes that's right uh and it burns many rich people have the burns response of like letter I don't know any which by the way I had to teach Bob about that recently I showed amazing restraint I have to say when Bob asked me sincerely what ligma is because he didn't know about it and i did not do the the uh the trolling response i carefully explained to him what it meant and how people use it up dog i've never heard of this up dog please explain that's how i love you bob it's true it's true sweet yeah when when somebody leaves you such an opening to exactly i was up, to be trolled. Exactly. I was like, oh, this is so perfect. He's asking me what Ligaba is. I can't. This is a man I love. I can't troll him.

Who's on first? You know what? I think, too, it's great that this scene, it does bookend well because Homer starts this problem. He convinces the Germans in the bar in Moe's Tavern to buy the company. And now he's in the same place, drunkenly convinced Burns to buy the company back. So he can finally have that power over people once more. Yeah, look how Homer does control the story, even though he doesn't know it. I wasn't attending sports games then. I don't know if it was a thing then yet but the derite this is how i learned about the derisive singing of 1969 hit nana

hey hey kiss him goodbye by steam i never looked up the title of that song like what is the title and it's very stupid yes yeah it's very tough but now when i've been to like i don't know a baseball game and a pitcher has to be replaced or whatever no let's say it's a heated late inning and somebody and a guy gets struck out then you sing na na na na hey hey goodbye and certainly it's been sung at wrestling events i've been to as well see when i first heard this, I only ever knew it as a commercial jingle because there was a local ad where goodbyes was, you know, good B-U-Y-S. And they're like talking about a sale. So I always thought it was an ad song. So when I heard it on this, I was like, wow, it must be a real song then.

Blew my mind. That's like when I hear any Motown song now and I'm like, oh, I heard that in a Burger King ad in the 90s. You hear Love Train and you're like, oh, wait, that in a Burger King ad in the 90s you hear love train and you're like oh wait that's a real song not an ad for a candy bar when I hear tell me something good I see cheese being dropped into a patty from above well of course I think the first example for me you would have been heard it through the grapevine I was like yeah this great the grapes sing this song everybody do the cool whip the cool whip. Yes. Cool whip. It's actually the cool jerk, which is disgusting.

That's gross. We were watching a bunch of Velveeta ads with songs, and is one of those a song parody? I can't remember. I thought those were all original tracks. I have the Velveeta OST on my hard drive. Those are good songs. So Burns is resolved is resolved he's gonna buy back the plant uh we cut to great animation of the guy of a guy falling through the ceiling into the floor

and then uh still eating his donut and uh who'd have thought a nuclear power plant could be such a death trap and these guys are not good negotiators, these Germans. I think they're too nice. Yeah, I know, man. This is when they finally learned their lesson, though, in this. One of the most, man, my mom quoted this scene all the time. If anything German was mentioned, she would bring up this scene. Guten Himmel!

Who'd have thought a nuclear plant could be such a death trap? It'll cost another hundred million just to bring it up this scene. We are desperate to sell. Desperate, eh? Advantage Burns. This is my offer. I think you'll find it's most unfair, but those are the breaks. But, uh, Mr. Burns, this is half of what we paid you. That's my final offer. Take it or leave it.

All right, Mr. Burns. You win, but beware. We Germans aren't all smiles and sunshine. Oh, the Germans are mad at me. I'm so scared. Oh, the Germans. Uh-oh, the Germans are coming to get me. Oh, don't let the Germans come after me. Please stop the pretending you're scared game.

Stop it. No, they're so big and strong. Stop it, Mr. Burns. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.

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Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. stop it. I like a going, stop the pretending you are scared game. That's a great reply. Very dry line. It all feels so loose and improvised. I think it is. I feel like they're all together. Well, also the way it feels improvised too is that the German who's voiced by Harry Shearer doesn't say anything. Also, you don't hear Smithersers laughing but he is cracking up at

this too which is also very sweet yes yeah like burns you might have seen this burns bit before yeah oh god and and he also the darkness on all smiles and the sunshine like that's a great line but it also is a a great dark moral to the story that so burns sells the plant fucks up a lot fucks up homer's life in that way then when he sells back the plant he actually makes 50 million dollars out of it because he sells it back to them at half the price or he buys it back at half the price so burns only got richer from it too and and it will still be a death trap because they're not going to spend any money he cancels all plans for renovations too yeah my mom would act out like oh no the germans any if a german thing was mentioned she would just say like oh no the germans i've also quoted that whole thing

many times i chuckled just like smithers did yeah burns is a lot of fun here i like when he's full of uh pith and vinegar first it was just vinegar we then cut back to burns getting back to his office and this is where we have one more amazing speech by old burnsy here uh apparently also the sleeping girl that's awakened that was a drawing of mark kirkland's then baby daughter who's uh probably like 32 now i think uh but yes this is uh burns deciding how uh he's gonna reset everything for homer once more order sir restore my office cancel all repairs and rehire that chap who sassed me in the bar homer simpson but why smithers i keep my friends close and my enemies even closer he'll slowly regain his confidence as the months and years drift by, blissfully unaware that the sword of Damocles is dangling just above his head.

And then one day, when he least expects it... I got my job back! We've seen that dangerous letter opener a lot already but i like the way he uses as a prop to demonstrate how he will one day destroy homer to stab a pig like that's so great that homer is the pig thing yeah his what a great speech and also that he calls the a daycare a pee we flop house that's also good it's a place of business. But yeah, his Sword of Damocles thing that taught me that saying. And now, for instance, in that great video game Hades,

there's a move in it called Doom where a sword does appear over, you hit a guy, and then it's delayed extra damage and is represented with a Sword of Damocles or a style Sword of Damocles over the enemy's head that then drops down and causes damage so it's edutainment yeah i i was like oh i know what that is from the simpsons

i know what the sort of damage that's that's where it started yeah yeah just like persephone yeah just like some uh some that greek broad is persephone again Burns completely forgets this plan that he's going to destroy Homer's life as as he often does but they this is a great joke too by Viti that it's just him recognizing at the very end there is no reason for Homer to get his job back after telling off Burns that would not happen but Homer has to get back his job at the end of this episode so Burns has to have a speech that makes no sense and Smithers goes but but why why would you do that it's a long con great great great episode i can't say enough great about it like every the land of chocolate is like is such amazing animation but it's the one bit that doesn't have like great written jokes in it so it actually is like the

least sharp of all the scenes so every everything is so full of great lines and great acting and and yeah i just i in the animation perfect yeah yeah they'll admit they were obsessed with burns in this era that's why he's kind of sprinkled into every episode except for a few but i feel like he's really coming into his own as the character will know and love him as uh so it's a great early showing for burns i'm looking at what was the last burns episode we had i think it's been a while yeah it was really uh blood feud was the last burns episode and then they spent half a season without another one and it's like now they're like okay they they were having so much fun that the the first act initially started with

two minutes of burns and smithers when they realized like this is too much for season three of this show I think by season five they would start with two minutes of Burns which I think is what um Burns air starts with right or even Rosebud definitely yeah no this is but back in season three old man Brooks wouldn't let him do a whole five minutes of Mr. Burns to start the show but yeah I love this episode and I'm glad Nina was on Nina any final thoughts yeah it's such an amazing Mr. Burns episode and i'm glad nina was on nina any final thoughts yeah it's such an amazing mr burns episode and it's definitely one of my favorites for sure and this observational humor about company politics feels like the kind of thing john vitti is good at which makes me wish he wrote more episodes for the office because he was a consultant producer on season seven which

bob you have not seen you didn't get that far uh he wrote two episodes of the office viewing party and garage sale both from season season seven i feel like he could have done more um especially if it was brought on earlier in the show when it was a little better it's kind of a shame yeah he was a big part of king of the hill too for the first i think uh five seasons and his episodes are really good and i think he added a lot to that show and like even the workplace politics of uh strickland propane probably yeah yeah no i think he think he brought a ton of great stuff. And as he told us, Greg Daniels, I think he said, was his favorite boss, favorite showrunner he ever worked for

was Greg Daniels. I definitely did watch all of season seven when it aired, but I don't remember those two specific episodes. Now I'm going to give them a watch of VD's episode. That was Steve Carell's last season, which I think you should watch we'll get to it yeah we'll get to it oh and just that jim he really is too much isn't he like yeah like eventually like duner mifflin does get bought by a bigger company and they go through

all of this kind of thing we see in this episode but on a grander scale oh another thing i wanted to bring up the japanese titles i'm not gonna do all season three oh yeah uh but first of all flaming mose was aerosmith appears i just wanted to point that out because it was the last episode i thought it was funny but the episode japanese title for this episode is homer is fired escalation mark oh spoilers it's kind of a broad title though like there's so many episodes that could be titled that i think yeah any other good ones for season three uh you don't do them all i'm just curious like father like clown is crusty's tears crusty's tears i like that yeah stark raving dad is um michael appears or michael has arrived a lot of episodes are just uh the the guy retitling them were just like uh guest appears. That's an easy format.

Yeah, because I'm pretty sure Lisa the Vegetarian is called Paul McCartney appears. They just love advertising the guest star. Yeah. You know, that's how they were marketed. Maybe. Oh, and Black Widower is Detective Bart. Meitante Bato. That's great.

It's like Meitante Kona. Wow. That's, yeah, I was going to say. is Detective Bart. Meitante Bart. Oh, that's great. It's like Meitante Conan. Wow. That's, yeah, I was going to say. That's a word I know, one of the 100 Japanese words I know because it was in anime or video games. But Nina, thank you so much for being on the show. Please let us know what you're up to

or we can find you online. I know you've got a lot going on with Fangamer. There's a new volume of Sparks, your graphic novel that's out. It's been out for a while. What else is going on with you, Nina? You can find me on Twitter at SpaceCoyote. That's's space coyote with an l at the end of 7e you can go to spacecoyote.com to see all my artwork go to fangamer.com and go to collections the collections menu and sort by

artist then click on space coyote to see a ton of video game merchandise i've designed and most recently i've designed stuff for hades and silent hill if you know any young readers in your life get them my children's graphic novel series, Sparks, which is written by my friend and Simpsons Comics writer, Ian Boothby. It's about two cats that pilot a robotic dog suit to save people. And the third book, Future Perfect, came out this year. I love Sparks, and I recommend if you're at the bookstore and you get Sparks, a fun game you can play is, okay, you take Sparks,

and then you also grab all the a fun game you can play is okay you take sparks and then you also grab all the dogman books you can find now what you do with the dogman books is you hide them throughout the store and very hard to find places and that way it's a fun game for the kids they can find dogman in the store uh the direct competitor to sparks not malicious at all that's just my advice nina does not endorse this but that's what i say it's a fun game to play challenge the children to find dog man don't even tell don't even tell the kids dog man's hiding the kids love that's what i have to say the kids love yeah uh dogs that are cops i guess with paw patrol and dog man boo dog man is a dog who's a cop who's also easy to draw and see sparks is a vigilante that's what kids need to have more respect for he plays by his

own rules yeah uh yeah nina i i just got in your uh your dusa figure from hades oh the plush figure as yeah the plush yes it's a talking plush it's great dusa from hades yeah that was a lot of fun for me to design i've been playing that game too and i gotta say i love my the plush i designed but i don't like that character very much i think she's annoying oh talk to her more talk to her more she's just like groveling and like anxious and sweaty and i don't like that i'm sorry no you just you just described me yeah i can't identify that in real life i don't need it. Oh, jeez. Yikes. And also, I knew I could trust you to put a little

X on the behind of Cerberus. Yeah, the Cerberus plush has three heads and one butthole, in case you ever wondered how many buttholes a three-headed dog has. That answers the question. I guess it only has one tail, so it should only have one butthole as well, then. And we'll end this chat with our discussion about buttholes thank you

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