Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Duffless

Episode Date: December 21, 2016

Homer is arrested for a DUI, getting him to rethink his drinking habits. Meanwhile, Lisa experiments on Bart, Bart is electrocuted, and we reexamine the sitcom Herman’s Head in this week’s podcast...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 this episode of talking simpsons is brought to you by casper mattresses and you listeners right now can go to caspertrial.com slash laser time to get 50 towards any new mattress i heartily endorse this event or product product. Ahoy, hoy, everybody, and welcome to Talking Simpsons, where we fill your Q-Zone with pure podcasting goodness. I am your host, Bob Stude-Prunemackie, and this is the Lazer Time Podcast Network's chronological exploration of The Simpsons. And I am Henry Gilbert, and I love tartar control duff.
Starting point is 00:00:48 And I am Chris Rub-a-dub Antiste. Quiet Rub-a-dub. And this episode is Duff-less. Homer, with our help, you'll never touch a beer again. Yes. One of many jumping
Starting point is 00:01:04 out the window at the slightest bad news jokes. This might be the first time. One of the best things about this show is I'm finally clarifying who jumped out the window and when. Yes. We were robbed of that, I think, in I Married Marge. Whatever. So this episode aired on February 18, 1993, and Chris will tell us what happened on this mythical day in history. Oh, boys, this is exciting.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Kenny G's Breathless tops the music charts, while Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You breaks Billboard chart records for remaining at number one for 14 straight weeks and will continue for even longer than that. Groundhog Day debuts at the box office, and Al Qaeda performs its lesser-known bombing of the World Trade Center.
Starting point is 00:01:39 That was the dry run, correct? Oh, boy. It was. It was the scrum. And we never heard from them again. And we never. And that was the last anybody heard of Al-Qaeda and the World Trade Center. Well, from 93 to 2001, you would occasionally get references to, like, they would talk about the World Trade Center bombing, but it would never do anything. Yes, there is the infamous line on A Family Guy when Stewie is saying, let's hope Osama
Starting point is 00:02:03 bin Laden doesn't know show tunes when he's going through the airport security line. And then he's singing I hope I get it, I hope I get it. What's that from? A chorus line. Okay, that's right. Top, Bob. And Seth MacFarlane was almost famously died in the 9-11 tragedy. What a different world it would be if he had died in that.
Starting point is 00:02:19 We just remember Family Guy as the show that the 9-11 victim made. It wasn't appreciated in its own time. But you know, if Marky Mark was on the plane, that never would have happened. Yeah, he would have literally fought them and kicked them out and landed the plane. He said, his quote was basically, I would have taken him out and then I'd tell everybody, he's going to be fine. We got this. I don't know, maybe you shouldn't terrorize, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:41 We're going to land and we're going to have some delicious burgers. Everybody stop what you're doing. So this episode opens with a dream sequence. What a fun dream sequence. Yeah, it's pretty good. With a very, I don't know, kind of an edgier Simpsons joke than I was used to. Well, Edna, for a school with no Asian kids, I think we put on a pretty darn good science fair. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I forgot that line until seeing it this time i like that line technically we can it's not canon because bart thought it's bart's dream that's true skitter didn't say it this is bart's social commentary so bright's dreaming a social commentary into his dream i thought the animators had a good time drawing those silly old dances yeah it's like so uh you know it's we mentioned family guy that's interesting because i think this is maybe last exit to springfield is a little more but this is the family guy-iest episode of the simpsons ever like you were telling me this what what is your uh theory what are your theories you said earlier is that what family guy is drawing from are these
Starting point is 00:03:40 two seasons of the simpsons like that's where yeah i think so yeah cutaway it's thought bubbles it's uh constant cutaways constantly watching tv shows it's also because family guy has no real characters or uh you know emotional attachment to them so they need things to fill out these 22 minutes which dream sequences fantasies references yeah that's why i think this is such a family guy episode you start with a dreams an extended dream sequence full of references there are multiple times where like lisa's like we could do like her tomato dream her dreaming up the hamster and uh bart and the hamster being in it and then also that there's a lengthy movie reference that's just in a scene and then it follows in and that movie reference then follows into singing a famous song. These are all
Starting point is 00:04:28 very things that I would call Family Guy cheap for using in 2008. We're learning the dark truth that maybe season 4 is not as great as we once believed. Even though it's still fantastic. We are seeing the shortcuts. These are all still great episodes but I think we are seeing
Starting point is 00:04:44 what happens when people leave a show, when people are distracted by working on other projects. And we're seeing a lot of these things they probably wouldn't do earlier in the season or in season three. They just need to get through this season. Another Family Guy connection for me. Now that you mention it, the episode is all about Homer going sober. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:00 So Simpsons does and doesn't treat continuity very seriously. This is a Homer- changing event forever yes and they clearly aren't going to stick to it and they usually don't exactly do that when something life-changing in homer's life has happened thus far it does kind of stick yeah it's where how he got his job it's uh in this case they had to just go like put it on ice i will be back for that well we'll talk about that later yeah for the theme though to show that lisa is going to be messing with bart's head later so it's a good early quote about it prize first prize first prize first prize why are you saying that just screwing with your mind i do love that because i i used to have man in high school i would be having these vivid dreams back when I still had them.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And my mother would, every one of my dreams would end with gunshots or the following is because it would be my mother banging on my door. And she would literally ruin my dreams. Like, I can't believe it. They're really dinosaurs. And they're all killed in front of me. And that warps into my mother banging on my door to get up for school. So your mother killed the dinosaurs.
Starting point is 00:06:04 It sucks. I've had that where I listen to either podcasts or music to put me to sleep a lot of the time. And sometimes I'll leave it playing or I'll wake up in the morning when it's still going and as I'm starting to wake up, I'm hearing the conversations in my dreamer characters just start saying it. I'm like, yeah, I agree about that.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Why is Marc Maron in bed with me? What happened? Well, no, I'm in a car. in my dream or characters just start saying it i'm like yeah i agree about that why is mark marion in bed with me what happens well no i'm like in a car like i'm having my adventures in my stamps.com i try to get the commercial free ones i also listen to audiobooks because those well i don't get commercials in my dreams because that would happen too i would get too many commercials my dreams have ad block but yeah again like those cutaways the the more tomato cutaway and also the tomato exploding on skinner's butt that feels like a specific movie scene yeah yeah i can't place it because the blood splattering onto the children i think it has to be very specific to something. The more tomato please cut away seems like one of the bigger whiffs. I'm like, this is just
Starting point is 00:07:08 not really that great. Because you know how we tend to idolize our scientists and elevate them to higher statures. I guess the joke is Lisa helped these poor people but they also worship her. So we see a little bit of Lisa's vanity involved there. We also know how kind
Starting point is 00:07:24 we are to people who work in GMOs. Well, yeah, you're right. Her steroid or anabolic steroid tomatoes were way ahead of the curve there on the manipulation of genes. And, you know, I've forgotten that Asian kids line. I'd also forgotten Homer's just like not sector saying yes syrup is better than jelly stupid in this one he is and this is yet another of the escalating homers brain jokes we just saw one last night yeah and man the cider one has to be the end of it but Homer can just he can live amphibiously
Starting point is 00:07:59 but this one's great and it's my fate this is my favorite homer brain it doesn't play as well in audio but you have to unless you really listen for the echo because that's occurring in Homer's brain
Starting point is 00:08:10 and they miss a step it's rabbit season duck season a little bit you're right you miss one step hmm well time to go to work
Starting point is 00:08:19 little did I know I'm ducking out early to take the Duff Brewery tour rolling at nine punch out at five. That's the plan. They don't suspect a thing.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Well, off to the plant. Then to the Duff Brewery. Uh-oh. Did I say that or just think it? I gotta think of a line fast. Homer, are you going to the Duff Brewery? Ah! He sleeps!
Starting point is 00:08:45 There's not even a flimsy excuse. Last time, he ran up the stairs and went out the window. The joke, I realize, is all in that one false pan. Yeah. It might not work well in audio. I'm bummed by it because I love it. I mean, that's the type of thing Gene and Reese love, too. That it's like, no new animation, just a pit.
Starting point is 00:09:02 But it's so funny. And then the animation of Homer holding his head and screaming. It's great. Homer screaming, tongue waggling. And then that leads to, again, this felt very Family Guy-y because it's just like a mini adventure movie in the episode. It looks like a reference to the 1984 commercial for a little while. But the spider specifically, which I fucking love. I love the giant.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I love the spider. To overcome the spider's curse, simply quote a Bible verse. Thou shalt not go. I love those musical flourishes. But is that just a Two Towers pre-movie reference? Well, I mean, if they read the book, then they would know of Shelob the Spider Queen as well. Is Conan a Lord of the Rings guy? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I thought he was. That's Colbert. Oh, you're right. A huge fan of Tolkien. He's in Desolation of Smaug. Yes, he is. But what a great time to finally be in a Lord of the Rings film. It only takes 16 hours.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Ugh, never. But anyway, I think it was just like a giant spider joke, or maybe something from like, you know, a Jason and the Argonauts type film of the 60s. Yeah, giant spiders aren't exclusive to Tolkien. Yeah, I mean, MST3K did like three giant spider movies, so it could be any,
Starting point is 00:10:23 it could be just that trope. My favorite being the car motor noise in the giant spider invasion. Oh, yeah. It's basically like a parade float attacking people. But if Family Guy did this scene in 2004, or like, say, 2007, it would have just been the scene from The Return of the King where he gets wrapped up by Shelob. And they would have licensed the music to use it and then sheila probably would have had like a gay guy voice and uh like started sipping no one talked to sheila like that and then they'd say shut up bitch and punch her and we just workshopped the family guy a lot of this tastes for family guy i still like the show
Starting point is 00:10:59 so uh bart essentially destroys lisa's science fair project. Okay, so, I'm not mad. Bart doesn't do it to ruin it for her. He just mischief is right in his face and he can't not do it. It's an ideal time. How do you do this to your principal? Like, there's no one else around. That's true. You know, there was no
Starting point is 00:11:20 punishment from Skinner. That's true. He's expelled, like, attacking your principal with a boulder of fruit. Yes. Unless he really didn't know, but he's in such shock after. Well, why don't we hear it? I just went to DC and I had a fantasy of if I meet Trump, I'm going to pretend to sneeze in his face. That's the way I'll get away with it and I'll be murdered by Skinner.
Starting point is 00:11:40 You'd see his real face before he killed you. This is one of my favorite lines of the show for some reason. I say it every time I need to tie my shoes. Oh, Bart, whatever. You'd see his real face before he killed you. This is one of my favorite lines of the show for some reason. I see it every time I need to tie my shoes. Oh, Bart, I forgot my MacBook. Would you hold this for me, please? Sweetly. Shoes untied. Over, under, in and out.
Starting point is 00:11:58 That's what shoe tying's all about. It really is. It really is. They animate his butt quite well. It's so great. It's not a bad butt. It swings like a patri really is. They animate his butt quite well. It's so great. It's not a bad butt. It swings like a patriotic flag at the end of a 1942 movie.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And then after the tomato hits him, I feel like they cut a non-flashback joke because maybe there were too many. We see him cowering, clearly experiencing PTSD or something. It's very clear he's suffering from something from getting hit there. And it does feel like...
Starting point is 00:12:23 You almost feel bad for Skinner. Well, and I thought it could be a joke, the way the blood or the tomatoes getting splashed on the kids in slow motion. Yeah. It's like that's a reference to something. But, I mean, it just felt very Kubrick-y in general. It wasn't in the commentary.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I'll see if the wiki says anything about it. I feel like, yeah, double-check that. I thought I'd look for it. But Bart didn't do it to ruin Lisa's work. He just couldn't resist. Yeah, but I think you could still get mad at someone for the same reasons. Oh, she absolutely should. It is also beautifully, like the whole episode, Bart is all the Three Stooges. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Like, sweet and lean. Oh, yeah. You're right. You're right. And I've seen it. He does it before, but consistently in this episode he is the three stooges maybe to tell you how stupid he is well we're going for low we're not going for high comedy yeah plot at all that's true the difference between this and season six the halloween special in season six is that or no five is that lisa would just call it out like yeah i've seen your curly i've seen your ship too like yeah just so you're clear you have no time for it yeah by
Starting point is 00:13:31 the way uh when homer drops out of the uh window and hits the ground the sound of it sounds like his pine is snapped it's like a horrible cracking sound and they they they work in like a really mean joke about princess die uh It's just a pile of dirty rags. Back when she wasn't a global treasure. You know, I didn't take it as just a mean statement on how she looks. I just took it as like Barney being
Starting point is 00:13:55 Barney not even thinking like the level it goes to like, is that her? Oh no, it's not her. That's a woman. Oh, it's not her. That's a man. Oh, it's not her. It's a dog. And then the next one below that, oh, it's not her that's a that's a woman oh it's not her that's a man oh it's not her it's a dog and then the next one below that oh it's not her it's a pilot yet another joke about barney being unfit to live yeah every part of him is broken so when they get to the duff plant oh so good welcome to the duff brewery now i'm sure all of you have heard the rumors that
Starting point is 00:14:21 a batch of duff was contaminated with strychnine? Strychnine? That's news to me. Are you sure? Everyone's talking about it. It was even on CNN last night. CNN? Why didn't you say that? That's a great ad lib.
Starting point is 00:14:38 You know it was just like, whoa. My memory of this joke was that nobody had ever heard of CNN, because that's how dumb they are. But it doesn't seem... You can hear them on CNN. Wow, that's big. Yeah, but it's not true. It's a much funnier joke. They've never heard of the only...
Starting point is 00:14:54 At that point, the only 24-hour news network. Yeah, that was like the place on cable to get your news. I like when he says... Just the way he says, Strychnine, Strychnine. That's right. I triple checked to see if this was a reference to something. I couldn't figure it out.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Maybe it's not the tomato exploding scene. Because otherwise I wouldn't know McMahon and Tate advertising agency is from Bewitched. Bewitched. That was the name of their advertising agency, right? I was going to get to that later, but yeah, it was the one on it. I wouldn't have that in my notes
Starting point is 00:15:21 had I not gone real deep on this. And they'd already done a McMahon and Tate reference in Mr. Plow. That's the guys who do his ad for the too expensive one. I did love that show, but I never would have got that. And speaking of ads, they watched some classic Duff ads. That's the first one of the Q-Zone. I couldn't think of the specific one, but it reminded me of the Jay Ward animated 60s ones. Like, I need more Maipo.
Starting point is 00:15:47 For sure. Or the Quisp. Or the original Cap'n Crunch. Look, if I may get animation nerdy, it was done in the UPA 1950s style. Yes. And many people copied it because it was cheap. It did. Very cheap.
Starting point is 00:15:59 But still very stylish. We did an episode of Laser Time about official cartoon mascots who have been the mascot of things for too long. Not like the Snap, Crackle, and Pop, but why is Donald Duck, he's had an orange juice for almost 100 years. Weird. Pebbles has never existed without the Flintstones. They hadn't had a show on the air in 30 years. And the weirdest one was that Disney did,
Starting point is 00:16:20 from what I know from working with them, Disney did kind of make a rule. The Disney characters don't exist in our world. They exist in their world. So if their world doesn't have Rice Krispies, they're not going to say the fucking word. You can put them on the box, but that's just a JPEG. It doesn't matter. It doesn't have Mickey's soul trapped inside.
Starting point is 00:16:36 It wasn't the case in the 1950s. And you see these black and white commercials. And it is the worst Mickey and Donald have ever looked. They're all done in that style. The U.KPA style, wow. Well, not necessarily, but really flat, like hyper flat. Hyper limited animation. They used the term limited animation for like Hanna-Barbera cartoons in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And when you have a step below that, that's those commercials. You would not have Rocky and Bullwinkle without General Mills, I believe. They were built to hawk cereal. And that UPA style came back in a big way in the 90s with stuff like Dexter's Lab and Powerpuff Girls, like using those flat kind of cubist characters. Yeah, except they're animated better, but it is like flat, hard lines, small bodies.
Starting point is 00:17:16 There was that meme going around about how, I will never profess the cartoons I grew up with were better, but I do love the Disney afternoon look of things in the Warner Brothers, Tasmania look of things and the warner brothers tasmania batman the animated series and then someone put it up like this is just a flat thing that looks the same at every angle that is what cartoons look like now all of them adventure time uh it's weird like not not articulated or uh at all really because they use those computers and a great button on the q zone clipone clip is, Proud Sponsor of Amos and Andy.
Starting point is 00:17:45 So good. Hello, folks. They just kept it in. Not to be confused with Amos and Andrew, the Nicolas Cage, Sam Jackson comedy of the mid-90s. Sorry I remember that. He did that, and then he did Loaded Weapon. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:18:00 But this one is great because... I would like to take this opportunity to express my fondness for a Duff beer. I'd also like to express my fondness for that particular beer. No man ever drank a Duff in his life. So that was not Quimby. That was John F. Kennedy. There's so many things I like about that clip. One is that people my age and a little younger will know what those presidents sounded like
Starting point is 00:18:28 because they saw them on The Simpsons. And I also love the animation trope of taking an old celebrity impression. And to use the McFarlane thing, that's what McFarlane does. Most of his characters are impressions of celebrities the audience doesn't remember. That Roger is Paul Lynde just completely. And most people don't know who he is. Stewie is Rex Harrison. characters are impressions of celebrities the audience doesn't remember that roger is paul lind like just completely and you most people don't know who he is stewie is rex harrison yeah jinx oh god now neither of us can talk this podcast is over until hank says duff uh yeah but
Starting point is 00:18:56 it also is a direct reference to the 1960s televised debate between John F. Kennedy and Nixon, which that was a very hotly contested election that was decided by several votes in Chicago. It was a very close election, and it was seen as a turning point in the media. It is funny to think about that now that we just had an election that were
Starting point is 00:19:20 American to exist in 20 years. We'll remember it as also a turning point. This is a major, this is a watermark moment. You've got to be television ready to run for office on a national scale. The story was that people who listened to it on the radio, they thought Nixon won. The people who watched it on TV saw Nixon as this sweaty, ugly Quaker that everyone hates. That was the big thing, is that he's ugly and sweaty.
Starting point is 00:19:43 They referenced that in Sideshow Bob Roberts too. Flames added by Channel 6. Meanwhile, Quimby... Even I say Quimby instead of Kennedy. Meanwhile, Kennedy is tan and happy and smiling. And he wins.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And they have him saying like, if you knew the president, you know that was probably a fascist remark. That is from the... That is an actual quote from the Quitches. That is Sandy Van Ocher asked him that question. And the question was, Nixon was vice president to Eisenhower. And Eisenhower was asked, what ways has, or what ideas has Nixon given to you to make your, that you've put into practice?
Starting point is 00:20:23 And Eisenhower said, if you give me a week, I might think of one I don't remember. And that was what Van Ocker was asking. So did I mean that? And Nixon's reply was I was a facetious It's a Futurama take on him. Also a fan of that
Starting point is 00:20:43 particular beard. Charleston Chew. Whose is better, that one, the Harry Shearer one, or the Billy West one? So Billy West, on a commentary, he said that he is basically doing Anthony Hopkins doing Nixon in the movie Nixon. He says he sounds like he's becoming a werewolf. So that's why he went, All right. Well, there's one joke I want to talk about. It's all visual.
Starting point is 00:21:08 You don't have it captured. It's the bottling line. There are things in the different bottles, like syringes in Hitler's head. So this is a reference to a real kind of hoax scare. So in 1990, one clerk in Ontario found a syringe in a bottle of Pepsi, and they tracked it down to a disgruntled bottling factory employee. That was all taken care of.
Starting point is 00:21:31 There was nothing else. In 1993, they had what was called a spontaneous hoax in which people all around the country were claiming to find things in Pepsi, but none of them were substantiated. And I remember around this time getting a Pepsi from my friend's fridge, and it was a bit frozen. And I was like, something's rattling. There could be a syringe in here. Oh, God. This Guinness. There's something rattling in it.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And there's one more story. I wasn't drinking Guinness yet, Chris. There's one more story about the Hitler head. So apparently they're referencing a specific beer company, and they won't say which one on the commentary. So they're referencing a specific beer company. And a rep from that company called Mike Reese, the co-showrunner of the era and they were like the president of our company was considered a war hero in world war two and mike reese's response was by the germans so uh i'm guessing was it budweiser i i don't i don't know what they're making fun of the dirty dirty secret is that the Nazis, or that they had, Coca-Cola had German plants. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And because America forbade that product to be, an American product to be made in Nazi Germany, they turned it into Fanta. Fanta exists because of the Nazis. And then they tried to sell it in America. And then they tried to sell it in America. Dude, Fanta's, it's big in every other. Fanta, Fanta, don't you want to?
Starting point is 00:22:43 You go below Texas, Fanta's huge everywhere. See, I don't drink any sugar water. It hurts to drink fizzy liquor. Or bubbly. Yeah, I don't like those fizzies. So Fanta, man, what will be the Fanta of the people who sell things in Nazi America? If I can be nostalgic, the thing I lament is growing up in the 80s, it was just like, man, if you have a new idea for a candy, just do it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 A new drink, just do it. It's called a Whatchamacallit. We don't know either. Yeah, Whatchamacallit. Just anything you want. And now everything is like, it's Snickers double caramel. That would have been called something completely unique. Yeah, we want to cling to brands.
Starting point is 00:23:19 You're right. M&M's, Mint, Pretzel, Crispy. It just would have been another candy. It's why they don't make new... It's smart. I feel like that's the same reason they don't make new movies anymore. They make just a remake of something but put it in that. Speaking of the labeling of candy, I was just watching...
Starting point is 00:23:36 We're recording this before Christmas. But I was just watching the Muppet Family Christmas. It's on YouTube. But it's the one taped off TV in 1987. Beautiful. You got everything in there. And it has all the commercials. And when I see the M&M's commercial, I completely forgot that M&M bags
Starting point is 00:23:52 when they were the brown ones said plain. Like you'd never see that now. Plain. Plain M&M's. And they're the best. We got two kinds of brown. You get peanut or plain. Because my dad used to bitch about this all the time because it used to be illegal to put that formula M&M's. And they're the best. We got two kinds of brown. You get peanut or plain.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Because my dad used to bitch about this all the time. Because it used to be illegal to put that formula of red dye in your food until the government said it wasn't. And now it's everywhere. I do miss brown and tan. I miss the light tan. I'm glad we're on this kick because I have a lot to say about this stupid clip. Because one, it was one of the first jokes I really fully got. It's the pipes. It's the pipes.
Starting point is 00:24:27 And here we have Duff, Duff Light, and our newest flavor, Duff Dry. Hold that. What does the future hold for Duff? Let's just say we've got a few ideas up our sleeve. Like what? I'd rather not get into it right now.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Why not? Alright, we don't have any ideas for the future. We got nothing. Happy? No. No. I love that now. This hover wasn't challenging.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I'm just genuinely curious. I didn't want to know you had no plans. This was a period where the idea of the dry beer was very popular. I only see that in Japanese beers now when I go out for Japanese food. Extra dry. I'll say dry. Super dry. There's a clothing store called Super Dry from Japan.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And I just, oh, this is so meaningless. I ran away for a long time and stayed in an old, abandoned black nightclub. And I stole a bunch of stuff from there because it was just like walking into a different world of like late 80s Budweiser advertisements, but all black people. So like you never. Because it was, yes. All right. When you people. So like, you never, it was, yes. All right. When you said black nightclub,
Starting point is 00:25:29 you meant one that African American people go to. Yeah. I could have said African American. I just don't care that much. I just didn't want people to think it was a nightclub painted black. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:25:36 But, but it was just like, it was everything like wild, all these like St. Pauly girl ads, but with a black woman, I'm like, I've never seen that before.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And one of them I took up. So I'm the last person alive. I have a giant bud dry tub underneath my parents house there's no basements and floors it's just dirt certainly not but it's it's like a keg holder or something but i thought it was it's giant and red and i thought it was so cool um and i stole it from that abandoned nightclub called fahrenheit whoa next to the toys r us if you can believe it. It was a weird time when there were all those different types of beer flavors, and then it would graduate into the micro
Starting point is 00:26:11 brewery, or the fake micro brewery, like Red Dog. Red Dog and Ice House. Ice House and Zima. Then they were all gone again. As seen later in the Simpsons, Red Tick Beer was its red dog beer. i forgot about that i brought it up because like there's a beer commercial later on that is that is wonderfully sexist
Starting point is 00:26:31 and it doesn't work well in audio but i brought it up because i remember the bud dry commercials and they are from like yeah i love this we feel like we feel like we're so goddamn woke but this the world we grew up in all the bud dry commercials are just like everything you think about women is true don't ask yourself and i got i got one of the commercials because it's just so good almost works in audio why do gentlemen prefer blondes why do women have all the answers why ask one So Bud Dry is, I think, known as one of the bigger marketing failures because it was everywhere. But they couldn't really tell people in commercials what distinguished it from Bud Light or Budweiser.
Starting point is 00:27:23 We should tell this to our listeners. The entire commercial is selling the idea of women. What's their problem? These are all women in scantily clad outfits. This is one of many. Look up any Bud Dry commercial. They're hysterical. They're like, women are either nagging you
Starting point is 00:27:38 or sex objects in a commercial. It makes the joke better when they're like, down with sexism to the sign changing to I am easy. It's part of this marketing campaign. I thought of the amazing SNL joke commercial. A butt gif. Schmitz Gay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 One of my favorite commercials ever. I like it because you can see how uncomfortable Adam Sandler is. Oh, really? Yeah. Chris Farley is just fucking rocking it, dude. He's living it up. The way, just the, my favorite is the flip up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:04 And I like making Adam Sandler uncomfortable. I think at the time you could consider that a bad gay joke, but it's so great. Like just a beer that turns everybody gay. I don't think it's a bad gay joke. I think it's subverting the idea. I think it's a base gay joke at its core when it was written, but you could show it to people now and be like,
Starting point is 00:28:21 wow, that was ahead of its time. And I think it also makes a statement that like, if this commercial was ahead of its time. And I think it also makes a statement that if this commercial was full of naked men or men in thongs, then you would know that this is a bit much. Isn't it?
Starting point is 00:28:34 If you like beer and you're gay, it's gay. I think we're going to like this guy. And by the way, the pipe going to all three different ones, it's a perfect metaphor. I love it. So that was one of the first jokes I got really fast
Starting point is 00:28:50 because I remember reading about The Simpsons, buying books about The Simpsons, and some of them called them VCR jokes, jokes you can't get without a VCR. That was one of them. And I bring it up because it's on my Instagram, which I think I just passed 1,000 posts on Instagram. So thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I'm going to do a victory lap. What do you want, a trophy millennial? I was watching this episode on FXX, and they have widescreened The Simpsons. The joke is gone. It doesn't exist. The joke is cropped out. And so when you watch it,
Starting point is 00:29:22 it pauses for a long time on three tubs, and you can't see the pronged pipe. I'm against that, not just because it destroys the jokes, it ruins the integrity of the decisions made by artists for that frame. It's really stupid. And I've seen when the Simpsons are watching a TV show,
Starting point is 00:29:33 they keep the TV frame and they keep the aspect ratio. Because otherwise there would be two purple lines on the side. And you have to almost double the stretching. So why not this? That's part of the joke. It disgusts me, honestly, because it feels like this monkey's paw wish for me.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Because I was the guy who worked at the video store who told you, no, you want widescreen. You're not losing part of your TV. You're seeing what the artist made, and you're seeing the thing you would have seen in the theater. Look up composition in the dictionary. So I was the person who said that and so now it's backwards where i was mr widescreen and now they're like let's ruin things to make them well henry you told me it was widescreen i genuinely hate it when i post things on the laser time facebook like you're telling me i have to add like bold impact font to the top and bottom of my widescreen video in order for it to exist on facebook suck Suck a dick.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah. I hate that too. Okay, but why don't we talk about Herman's Head? I watched the entire run of Herman's Head. It was ribald enough for me to get into. Plus it had Lisa Simpson and Hank Azaria, which I knew. What's so funny?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Oh, I was just thinking of a joke I saw on Herman's head. I spent all day trying to find... Yearly Smith, voice of Lisa, was on Herman's head. Made a joke on Herman's head about... Because someone criticized her off-camera on the phone. Somebody said you sound like Lisa Simpson. I couldn't find it.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And there's a lot of Herman's head on YouTube. And I don't know what... I had stolen a black and white television from a friend and would watch over the air network stuff. And Fox was so clearly different. I'm sure it was from having the Simpsons. And I did, I did want to, like,
Starting point is 00:31:12 I found it during this episode. There's some guy on YouTube, I'll get his name next episode, who has done nothing but post the commercial breaks from first run Simpsons episodes. So any commercial that aired when the show originally did, you can see it. Right when you're done watching Homer, blah, blah, blah, Al Bundy is in this situation. Like something similar. And like it's transfixing.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I gotta check that out. And Herman's head was, I don't know, I thought it was really funny. Well, I remember like Yearly Smith played an adult virgin, like a kind of mousy adult virgin. Louise Fitzgerald. Oh my God. Okay. Jesus Christ. Did you look this up on IMDb? No. like uh yearly smith played a an adult virgin like a kind of mousy adult virgin and hank is oh my god okay jesus christ did you look this up on imdb no i remember because there's a bunch of jokes about their name in the show okay i remember hank is area because he asked him to spell his name and his name was jay oh no it was alcoholics anonymous and he's like just tell us the first initial of your name oh jay but i remember he was like a womanizing like sort of a dan fielding character so the show was
Starting point is 00:32:10 in case you didn't know it was a high concept show but like it was your classic office sitcom or raunchy 90s office sitcom it was a little more rival than those shows more rival because it was fox but it wasn't that it was an office. But it would constantly cut away to Inside Out, except it was four things. That's what I thought of when I saw the Inside Out trailer. Like, oh, Termin's head, the movie. It was his frat bro, his weenie nerd. The woman. The sensitivity, and then his smarts in his brains.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And so when I re-watched a clip of it, yeah, it was like, oh, Hank Azaria and Yardley Spitt, because I only remembered Yardley on it. Well, she was like unmistakably Lisa on the show. Her voice is just Lisa. Hank Azaria could hide in plain sight. But I did forget that the guy who plays his frat boy in his brain, he's the bus driver on Stranger Candy, who's just so he's so funny even in that bullshit role i only remember watching one
Starting point is 00:33:10 episode of herman's head and it was because i was titillated of the idea that there was an episode where herman was naked in it which was blurred out anyway but if you remember that the episode starts with him the one i vividly remember is like there's an episode where in we said that right they cut back to the voices in his head yeah something will happen and i'll cut back to the voices ahead going like what does this thing mean there's an episode where herman can't sleep and they cut him like what are we supposed to do he won't go to sleep and like well why don't we do that thing it's like what thing are you talking about that thing that puts us to sleep instantly and like didn't we do that earlier today it was the biggest masturbation joke i ever heard. It's like how Seinfeld danced around saying it.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Right when I discovered the art, and it's a slow fade to him with his arms behind his head five minutes later from the alarm clock. And it's like, that always works. I don't know what happened. It was the biggest jerk-off joke I'd ever seen. It was like a 93 Fox to come to me. So it was
Starting point is 00:34:01 on from 91 to 94. It was a contemporary of The Simpsons this is the first time it's ever been referenced on the show uh you cut it out in the clip there but i like that marge goes which is i took that to mean she probably nothing is funny on herman's head and that if lisa is lying to me let's first say i don't want you watching that or something like maybe she makes a comment on it i think no i just heard in it and that feels like her just saying you are lying to me because you would never laugh at something on herman's head yeah there's nothing funny on that show to remember at least it's too smart to watch herman's head and on a season nine episode azaria actually mentions the show on the
Starting point is 00:34:40 commentary he actually mentions it because he says like there's some shows you never want people to bring up to you as their favorite show. He basically says he never wants to hear about Herman's Head. I desperately wanted to find out it was critically revered ahead of its time, and I did not find that at all. Nobody liked it. And later they will do a joke much later.
Starting point is 00:34:59 There's a joke where a comic book guy, voiced by Azaria, is doing a petition to bring back Herman's head. So they come back to it a couple times, but this is the only time when Herman's head is on the air that they reference Herman's head. What a time to be alive. And now to think, it's also funny to think, like, how low were they getting paid on The Simpsons then? They're like, well, I guess I'll be a sitcom regular. I've got to do more work on a different show. show yeah it's like it's not enough to be the most
Starting point is 00:35:26 popular show on the to be on the most popular show on the network I'm gonna go Moonlight and Slum it on her instead I don't want to speak for Yardley Smith or any of the actors but like Yardley Smith and Nancy Cartwright is all over 80s cartoons until The Simpsons and doesn't do anything ever at all
Starting point is 00:35:42 she still gets a bit of work in the 90s I don't think she tries to work I don't think she tries to work. I don't think Yurley Smith and her try to. Why would they? Nancy did, I think she did The Critic. She did Goof Troop. She was Pistol, Pete's daughter. That could have been a deal made in like 90.
Starting point is 00:35:57 You have to think of the deals. 97 I believe was when they had the strike to get the big money. And so you got to think of what they did after 97. think you i well i would recognize her voice in almost anything yeah so i i can understand her it being a little hard to get cast but i'd love like tress mcneil jesus she's like daisy duck and like a preschool series sounds like she's too many characters she sounds like and she sounds like a simpsons character everywhere she goes yeah uh i don't know i love her you hear her mom voice and her Lindsay Nagle voice
Starting point is 00:36:25 almost everywhere. Oh my god, yes. Lindsay Nagle is everywhere. And that's actually Dana Gould's ex-wife. We'll get to that in a few years. Good old Dana Gould. Wait one second. I'm going to Nancy Cartwright's IMDb. Let's see here. She voiced Bart Simpson on an episode of
Starting point is 00:36:41 Portlandia. She was Bart on Family Guy. She was Bart on Family Guy. She was Bart on American Dad. Oh, Jesus. Something called the Zula Patrol of 2012. Never heard of that. She was Bart on The Cleveland Show. It's like archival footage.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Okay, here's something. In 2006, the show, the Disney series, The Replacements. She was Todd Daring and Dobbs Daring, the twins on the show. It ran for 75 episodes. And for 50 episodes of Rugrats All Grown Up, she was Chucky Finster. Yes, that is true. Poor Christine Cavanaugh.
Starting point is 00:37:15 That was 2003 to 08. Oh yeah, Christine Cavanaugh backed out of the whole gig. I'm saying that because I think she's one of the most talented voice actors I have ever seen. Bard is a great, great character. And if she popped up in anything else,
Starting point is 00:37:28 you would know it because she's very distinctive. And I don't think because of the salary they make on The Simpsons, they don't really have to work. And she was trained by famous voice actor Dawes Butler. Really? She's the voice of every Hanna-Barbera character? Pretty much, yeah. And she basically flew out to L.A. to study under him.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I think it was just one of those stories of, I cold-called him, and he's like, I'll teach you how to be a voice actor. I hate a lot of Hanna-Barbera products, and none of it has to do with Dawes Butler. He's great. All their voice actors are great. I love those old voice actors.
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Starting point is 00:40:08 Here's a taste of what you've been missing. So this weekend I watched a bunch of Christmas stuff. And one thing that I had never seen before and didn't expect to like at all was the Nick Cage movie Family Man. Really? Oh, wow. And I thought, he's in a family Christmas movie. He's going to be so watered down that it's not going to be fun at all.
Starting point is 00:40:29 But the first hour of that movie is still really good because there's a lot of Nick Cage still being Nick Cage. I got a few clips of the movie just that show. Oh, you did? This is where he's first learning of what's happened. He's in this alternate timeline. Okay. You mean because you thought I was cocky? I'm now on a permanent acid trip!
Starting point is 00:40:49 Please just tell me what's happening to me in plain English without the mumbo jumbo. Oh, man, this is so cagey. You've heard the word mumbo jumbo before. Mumbo, the contortion of his face. Mumbo jambo. That's why the word mumbo jumbo before. Mumbo. The contortion. Mumbo jambo. That's why we give him the Oscar. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:41:45 I'm a fan of it. It's so funny, and if I can file it away, it's one of those jokes The Simpsons doesn't do anymore. It really lingers on every single joke it makes in animation. Rather than let this slide. Did I miss something? Maybe. Watch it again.
Starting point is 00:41:59 The characters will read the sign jokes to you now and read the menu jokes to you now. It's so short, and I love, it's not just a Hitler head. It's in a jar. Somehow a jar got on the Duff bottle assembly line. Yeah, wait a minute. Yes, a head-sized jar. Heads and jars.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I mean, Greening could have at least liked that part of it. So he talked, he stole it. We talked about this on the Duff Gardens episode, Selma's Choice. But have you guys been to a bottling plant? I've been to the Budweiser one. Oh, no, I've been to a shitload of micro brews. My girl's
Starting point is 00:42:32 from Milwaukee, so it's very possible. When Homer's asking, like, what are your ideas? In those tours, those guys are generally, like, they do other jobs in the factory. One of the guys is a co-founder. So you could ask them, what are your ideas?
Starting point is 00:42:48 There's a lakefront brewery. Yum. And you get free samples, too. I got hammered there twice for like 20 bucks. Yeah, I got hammered on my one beer tour I took in Berkeley. Just like, they keep giving me beer. Man, where was it? What brand was this?
Starting point is 00:43:01 This was Pyramid Brewery, and now they are closed. Now, I went to a bud bottling plant which bud sucks it does but i was also too young to drink then so it's a weird place to take a kid like yeah let's see where let's see where beer is made junior hey it was something to kill time on a vacation i think yeah just like we had a real thing going that day but we're like oh the bud the bud place is right next door but what i did buy there were in their in their store in the company store they had their bud bowl helmets to put on your bottles oh yeah i got one of each i got the bud and and then i told my dad or i got my mom to just buy two bottles of each of those beers that we emptied them out and i just they
Starting point is 00:43:42 were on my like um dresser for like years and years. I've said it a million times. Never been a sports fan. I endured this, still endure the Superbowl to this day. Cause I love the Bud Bowls. I loved it so much. I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:54 this is not a comment on your parents, but I'm sure like modern parents would be aghast at this. Like you bought your son beer bottles to play with. They gave us cheap toys. Like McDonald's exists for the same reason. That is true. I, you know, I mean us cheap toys. Like, McDonald's exists for the same reason. That is true. I mean, cheap toys. They also know, like, I was joking with you guys.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Like, if I drank today, it would be the third day in a row I drink. And I don't do that. Like, I don't normally drink. I mean, I was into the Bud Bowl, too, so don't feel bad. I thought it was cool. I only do it when we record at night, and I've drank every day this week. Gotta build that backlog. But I did go to the Coke Museum in Atlanta as well, which is similar to this, too, with all the free samples.
Starting point is 00:44:32 But they have separate rooms of like, here's all our old ads. I've been to numerous brewery tours. Fine. I've never been so sick. Then after drinking free Coke from around the world. It made me so sick. But it is awesome to like drink. This is China's coke. In India, we have peach coke.
Starting point is 00:44:49 This is delicious. I'm 10. Why don't we have this here? It's like eight Halloweens are happening inside of your body. Oh, it's awful. So we have to get back to the episode, unfortunately. And Homer is pulled over by Wiggum after stealing Barney's keys. And what I think is like they're building up to the rake joke.
Starting point is 00:45:06 We see a few attempts at this kind of a humor, which is, I think, new to television, at least. The Family Guy would do it a lot, Henry, obviously. But just a sustained joke where it's like the same thing happening over and over until it becomes, it goes from unfunny to funny again. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:20 For a second, I heard something else when you said the rake. Oh, the rake. Sorry. The rake joke. The rake joke said the rake. Oh, the rake. Sorry. I heard rape joke. The rape joke. Enunciate. The obvious timeout joke.
Starting point is 00:45:28 But no, yes, the beating Barney takes forever. Ow! Ow! Ow! Like, the homer hitting with a crowbar is pretty harsh. I mean, we have the rake joke here, then we have dental plan next, and then we have, finally, to end the Al Jean and Mike Reese tenure, we have the rake joke. Yes rake joke yes yeah and this is as someone jesus i don't want to get too much i wanted to ask about duis so thank god i know about this because i'm from a land in florida
Starting point is 00:45:55 that's spread out over i think 20 miles no mass transit system and no cabs the bars are open till two and there's nothing else to do in the town. That's not just Florida, Chris. That's like 95% of America. I was talking to my girlfriend's sister and she was disgusted when I'm like, yeah, everybody just drives hammered all the time. Yep, that was the same in Ohio. All the time. And so the difference is that DWI
Starting point is 00:46:18 is, like, that's really drunk. And most people just use DUI to describe drunk driving. But DW i was driving while intoxicated dui is driving under the influence that can go for marijuana it can go for a fucking acid if a cop can figure that out uh but dw is driving while intoxicated and that that does involve a certain alcohol limit so i do like that homer it's not a minor infraction it carries a higher penalty dw i and I also love that he says Dewey.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And Dewey, you can pronounce both Dewey. I swear, I haven't heard DWI in years. But growing up where we had to drunk drive everywhere, like, oh man, just hope you get a DUI instead of a DWI. I just want to tell the audience, you don't have to drink and drive. So literally the only thing that happened that's different there now is fucking Uber. Yeah, Uber is saving lives. If it wasn't for Uber, there'd be no...
Starting point is 00:47:10 Everything is five miles from your house. I mean, that is a price of mass transit not having it either. In Japan, you'll just see, for example, just saying a place with a lot of mass transit, you'll see tons of drunk people on the trains. Walking around on the streets. My first day
Starting point is 00:47:25 I ever visited Japan, I was like, that's just a dude in a suit passed out here, and like, nobody's even acting like it's a weird thing. Like Chris was saying, that was a fact of life in my hometown, and I've done a few things I'm not proud of. I wasn't like blackout drunk, but it's like, I probably shouldn't drive, but I can't get home
Starting point is 00:47:42 any other way. But as I was growing up and entering my mid-twenties, it's's like lots of people i know were getting duis and having their lives fucked up totally they probably deserve it on on some level because that is putting other people's lives in danger but it was like uh okay i know this is bad number one i've always known it was bad but also friends of mine are getting like uh ankle bracelets and having to stay in their house and having to waste weekends going to these classes and it's like two thousand dollars it's it's crazy it would ruin like it ruined 20 year olds that i yeah so it makes me sound shitty but the practical punishment of it is really what led me away and then i was like oh
Starting point is 00:48:13 this was bad the whole time i was just being selfish this is the first year i will depend on uber my dad i couldn't believe the solution because he knew what was going on like i'd have a couple beers with him leave at 10 o'clock, and come home at 4. What do you think is happening? And he's like, I think I'm going to rent you your own car this year because I don't want you taking mine. Why? There was never – oh, you're worried about me trashing your –
Starting point is 00:48:35 you're not worried about me. You're worried about your car. When you die, do it in a rental car. But given the nature of Uber, I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick to that this holiday season. Homer's DUI test was fun. Oh, so good. So do you have the test on there? W-X-Y-N-G.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Now I know my ABCs. Won't you come and play with me? Phelous. We also would have accepted, tell me what you think of me. I guess you're free to. Get him the breathalyzer! You're under arrest. Here's the thing I didn't get.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Are they saying Homer is on this so much he knows how to do the test while drunk, or they're criticizing the false positive you can get with a breathalyzer? No. Okay. Just that Homer beat the thing or seemed like he was. To revert back to bob our hometown roots the dui limit is based on the smallest baby with the lowest alcohol tolerance i mean if you burp you're a toddler they're over the limit i am i am 250 pounds six foot three and a giant man i can
Starting point is 00:49:39 drink many of you listening under the table and i can drive after a lot of drinks totally fine. I'm positive. But if I were to get breathalyzed I would be penalized the same as an anorexic cheerleader as a 250 pound man who's been drinking for a long time. Barney is such a jerk to say give the breathalyzer! But he's also drunk.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I don't know how drunk Homer is in this situation though. I mean it's established Barney is too drunk. No, it seems like a bummer. It seems like what should have happened to me as many times as I've done this. I'm okay to drive, but I am over the limit. Well, and speaking of jokes you get as a kid, I did get that joke of the differences of the regionality of what you say at the end of the ABC song. And this might not be outside of America, but the way we learn our abcs in school is a b c d you can do the whole thing sing song but when you get to the end you say something to complete it because you see and so mine was next time won't you sing with me that's what i was
Starting point is 00:50:41 mine too yeah that was mine but they threw out two things that weren't mine that were tell me what you think of me tell me what you think of me or next time you play with me like both of those so i i like that it was just kind of a regionality observation and my friend uh brian failed that test stone sober and he got that he got the touching the nose he failed my greatest fear was like i have difficulty now saying the alphabet backwards. So I was like, what if that happens and I can't do it? What? Z-Y-X-Y-W-D-U-U-U. Let's not try to do it now.
Starting point is 00:51:15 What? We got plenty of time. Oh, my God. We're going so long. All right. Then the D-O-A-D-U-I mix up is a very mean joke, but I do like it. Oh, God. And then that woman's husband is dead.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Thank God. More Phil Hartman. Don't worry, Homer. I have a foolproof strategy to get you out of here. Surprise witnesses. Each more surprising than the last. I tell you, the judge won't know what hit him. Pipe down in there, Hutts.
Starting point is 00:51:44 It's revealed Lionel Hutts is talking to the adjacent cell. For some reason, I hadn't seen this one in a while. I'm like, does Lionel Hutz help Homer? Or is it like, no, just one scene. That's it. The Simpsons have him on retainer. It's a great escalation joke because you're not seeing him in his office. There's no real, you can see by his outfit.
Starting point is 00:52:01 If this was your first episode, you can see by his outfit that he's a lawyer. But it really depends on you knowing, well, that's Hutz. He's always their lawyer. So this is that story moment. And then Hutz has gone so low that he's also in jail with Homer now. That scene with the judge goes by so fast. And I wonder what the original words were because it seems like all the words were changed. I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Denied! Well, I like that last remark. Stricken for the record no boom but what was i i would love to know what the original line was there i do not know but meanwhile on the b plot lisa is trying to prove what bart is dumber than a hamster yeah he goes back to the same pet shop as in lisa's pony dude also run by bronson if you listen to the show, yes, I love Hank Azaria. Hank Azaria is blue-collar Charles Bronson voice on everybody. And this guy is more sarcastic than ever. I want the most intelligent hamster you've got. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:57 This little guy writes mysteries under the name of J.D. McGregor. How can a hamster write mysteries? Well, he gets the ending first, then he works backwards. Oh, come on. Look, kid, just take him before his mother eats him, all right? And that is the purple hamster from Bart the Genius. The hamsters are still like lavender, purple-y colors. I think they hated that it was so purple.
Starting point is 00:53:18 And that leads to the sequence of tests for Bart, which that was something, too, the producers didn't like. They had to shock the hamster for the story point. At least once, yeah. And to show that once he's shocked once, he learns his lesson and then doesn't touch it again. It's very weird that the hamster is the most expressive character in this whole episode. And then Bart keeps getting zapped over and over again. And also that bookcase fall looked really painful. Yeah, like it should have decapitated Bart
Starting point is 00:53:45 internally or something. He might have killed Bart. To prove a point. But then Homer is forced to ride a bike and I loved how he enjoyed the bell. It's not all bad. And a great ha-ha and it felt like it had been a little while since we had a ha-ha. Doing a really prolonged
Starting point is 00:54:02 wheelie. That is not easy. That looked like a downhill wheelie. Especially a guy that big. This made me not easy. I used to do that. That looked like a downhill wheelie. Especially a guy that big. This made me really happy. I had to go out of my way to figure out what was going on here. I love Phil Hartman. We have to have every one of his voices ever.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And this is another Troy McClure appearance. Every time you see a film reel go off inside of what looks like a classroom, it'll be Phil Hartman. But it's great because he's talking to adults for the first time. Now, if any of you ever think of drinking and driving again, this film will scare the pants off of you.
Starting point is 00:54:32 What a terrible waste. Hi, I'm actor Troy McClure. You might remember me from such driver's ed films as Alice's Adventures Through the Windshield Glass and The Decapitation of Larry Leadfoot. For the next 60 minutes, we'll be seeing actual film of car crash victims. So this panic-crossing audience is a reference to,
Starting point is 00:54:58 is actually a recreation of an Addams Family comic strip. Oh, his famous one, yeah. Yeah, it's the one of everybody else, the entire audience in a horror film being shocked, and then Fester is there loving it. See, I had many takeaways. One, like the light of the film, that they bothered to animate all that.
Starting point is 00:55:18 And it looks like, if you're watching it after we talk about it, it looks like the most Squiggle Vision Dr. Katz thing you've ever seen. And two, I love funny music beds. I've heard that before. I had to go find it. Oh, thank God, Chris.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Rob Asprey's Round the Bend is what that is. And apparently it's from... It doesn't check out time-wise because it's his orchestration. He's credited with it, and it's from a UK television show called ZAP with three capital Z's, lowercase a and p that ran from 1993 to 2001. I don't know why
Starting point is 00:55:54 it would have ended up in The Simpsons. I have to imagine it's a pre-existing song, and they're using his orchestration. I think I've heard it on, it's like a Ren and Stimpy needle drop, too. You hear something like that on it. Yeah, it makes me laugh so much. It's so interesting. I didn't know that. Round the bend.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Now you know. They cut out the bit of them seeing Wiggum's family video, which was one that was the exact same joke. Yes, it was. It's him. From New Kid on the Block, right?
Starting point is 00:56:19 From New Kid on the Block. Well, I gotta tell you that. Wiggum is in a kiddie pool eating a hot dog. And fishing around for one between his legs, right? Yes. I'm watching this on a torrent.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Ah. And I just noticed a TV logo and I read about this while doing research. It's not in the TV version from five years ago, so it's not gonna be in the TV version.
Starting point is 00:56:38 That's the syndicated version. No, yeah. You're not gonna see that scene. That scene is gone. That's why you gotta get those DVDs, folks. I have them. They're right there. It's just a hard capture. On sale in 2004. That scene is gone. That's why you've got to get those DVDs, folks. I have them. They're right there.
Starting point is 00:56:45 On sale in 2004. But it is them ripping themselves off. Somebody had to think the idea of a man fishing a hot dog between his legs in a swimming pool was funny. You just love it. Because he's supposed to pick the wrong hot dog. And he's like, this is a funny prank I play on my wife. That is the first appearance of Sarah Wiggum. She won't
Starting point is 00:57:05 be named sarah until um making babies yeah i saw the baby and the baby looked at me and really really big episodes for the wiggums here yes back to back of the wiggums so though this episode uh this bit here scared me as a kid which one because uh the idea that in your driver's ed class, you're going to have to see a basically like murder porn to scare you into driving better. So when I was going to take my driver's ed class, I'm like, am I going to have to see this? In my class, I watched a video where a police officer
Starting point is 00:57:40 tells a story about how you shouldn't kill yourself driving and you're going to murder people and here's the story of the time I found a dead baby. It's a bad way to commit suicide, Henry. Don't do it. That is basically his voice. He was a southern cop, which what a great southern cop. I watched a lot of those. Finally, that southern cop taught me a lesson. I'm sure he didn't
Starting point is 00:58:00 do anything wrong his entire career. If this has a basis in reality, this film is on YouTube. Yeah, I'm sure. For sure. Like, I've seen this reference. It's scared straight type filming. Yeah. But I never,
Starting point is 00:58:10 I didn't have to see that in my driver's class. Like, I've seen this kind of joke on things like Beavis and Butthead, anything with driver's ed or like, you know, some sort of driving class. Exactly, that's it.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And I want to say it's probably like one of those films with like stage tragedies like Shake Hands with Danger. Shake Hands with Danger. Yeah. Where it's all just like
Starting point is 00:58:25 actors and special effects, but it's just there to scare you. If you've never seen Shake Hands with Danger, it's so great. It's all stuntmen reenacting accidents that can happen on caterpillar construction equipment. Because they're making it for men who work in industry.
Starting point is 00:58:43 You're seeing death. I gotta scare you. Yeah, it's like getting shot eight times every time you don't put the pile on in the Marth lap. There's this undercurrent of, of course we're all drunks. Yeah, sometimes I come to work hungover,
Starting point is 00:58:55 but you've got to pay attention. Every time you come to work drunk, you shake hands with danger. Speaking of DUI people, too, that was the thing I learned when I got into driver's ed class, which was, I don't know if this is in every state, but in Florida at that time, when I was 16, I had to go take a class like this, a three-hour class, and you two or three people who were just in their 30s, 40s, 50s, who clearly had gotten a DUI and were forced. And that's the major humiliation of it, really. That's what it's about.
Starting point is 00:59:36 And then we knew they were there because of a DUI, almost likely, and they knew we knew. Extra shame. And I can tell you exactly what night I saw I was in that class because it was when my mom and brother picked me up. My mom and little brother picked me up. They said,
Starting point is 00:59:54 on Nitro, WCW Nitro, the ultimate warrior came back. Spoilers, mom. Well, they didn't tape it. I saw it. He was in the rafters. That was in August or early September. I can look up the exact date.
Starting point is 01:00:10 But I was, because of this episode, scared I was going to have to look at dead bodies because of this joke. Well, to make a long story short, at this age, I was seeking out things like that and buying them online. You were a real Rotten.com gold card number. I really, really was. It's hard to imagine that. My friends would take me to Rotten.com like, come on, can you take it? I was like, no, I can't. I don't want to see this Russian soldier cut a guy's throat.
Starting point is 01:00:34 You want to see how Chris Farley really died? If this is the only laser time show you listen to and you haven't seen Henry Puke at just songs, you're getting sick just thinking about it. I'm not going to invoke boogers and cum on you. I'm not going to do that. We don't have the line, it's funny because I don't know him. I did, actually.
Starting point is 01:00:50 It's at the end of it. I just wanted to more talk about the song. Here's the thing I thought was weird, though. Because Homer's clearly going to AA. And I forget that that's like a... He's in a church. It's a weird Scientology-like thing. And they can't call it that.
Starting point is 01:01:04 They can't make fun of AA, because people will come at them if they go after an organization. They call it Alkanon? Alkanon. It's not even Al-Anon. Yeah, Al-Anon is one thing. Yeah, Al-Anon and AA are both actual alcoholic organizations. Is Al-Anon for the children and wives and husbands of alcoholics? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Stewart Sage's family is how we're going to go by, which I'm pretty sure you and I have both watched more than most anybody listening. But, I mean, Ned is fingering his chip. He's got his chip. He's got a 4,000-day chip. Which is the AA thing. It's like the 10-year chip.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yes. And we've seen him drink before and after this. Well, I mean, I've heard from people who got sober with AA and then other people who didn't get sober without it. Like, Marc Maron talks about it that he got sober and that he said that even though he's not into the higher power thing that comes into AA he says it's a helpful
Starting point is 01:01:52 system and it does work but God comes in at a certain point in it that is part of the 12 steps. You have to give yourself up to God right? Like I have no power. Higher power. Okay higher power. Pick the one I'm sure we don't have a... I'm sure we won't volunteer a solution.
Starting point is 01:02:07 And it being in a church is another... I feel like it is a specific reference to AA. Fucking... It may be like this... Like, is this Flanders? I know he's a namby-pamby asshole, but I think this is just him desperate to hang out with people. No, I think it's him being such a sober wuss
Starting point is 01:02:24 that just being drunk once was an unforgivable nobody made fun of him for this it's been 4 000 days since my last drink it was my first and last blackberry schnapps the weeniest drink ever we see what happens when he drinks a light wine spritzer today and landers is a boring old bitty. Ned! I was more animal than man. Sorry for interrupting the clip, but we see what happens in Viva Ned Flanders when he drinks a white wine spritzer. Behind the scenes, I'm switching from wine to whiskey because I'm out of alcohol. And yet, he installed a tap in his rumpus room. And he made Planter's Punch in the breakup episode.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Yeah, he has a PhD in mixology. Yeah, college boy. Clearly he makes other people drink, not him. Maybe that's how Ned gets off, watching other people imbibe. It's like, drink it, sinner. I could really go for some Blackberry schnapps right now. That's a Henry drink.
Starting point is 01:03:20 It was one of my first drinks. Actually, the first thing I got drunk on... No, okay. it was either i get it mixed up god you're crazy okay no the first one of henry's famous ether frolics a man's depth of an ether bin the first thing i got drunk on at 20 because a friend told me like look when you're 21 and it's legal you'll regret that you never once illegally drank. So I was like, fine. And so it was a pre-mixed bottle of TGI Friday's Kahlua Mudslide. So in a bottle. I got real drunk off that.
Starting point is 01:03:52 You've got to try Applebee's Mudslide, man. It's way better. So then when I turned 21, we then went to a bowling alley slash bar for me to get drunk on. And that's, I had the ice, the thing you, Smirnoff Ice. I had that, but it was Smirnoff Black. Thank you for never bro-icing us. And I liked it because I don't like the taste of beer.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I don't like the bubbles. For alcohol, for me, it needs to be flavored and sugary to mask the alcohol. Like, you guys were drinking red wine. I like rosé or white wine because it's sweeter. Girl drink drunk. I am a girl drinker. That's a great sketch. Oh, you guys were drinking red wine. I like rosé or white wine because it's sweeter. Girl drink drunk. I am a girl drinker. That's a great sketch. Oh my god. It's one of the greatest sketches ever. All based on Kevin McDonald being a pansy. Pause this slightly
Starting point is 01:04:34 and then go watch that and come back. You'll thank us. Kids in the Hall, girl drink drunk. Also, Hans Wollman is younger than us. As established in Shonda's Choice. Yeah, 31 years old, you say? That's younger than me now. That's very scary. And then Homer jumps out the window, as we heard at the start of the episode.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Indeed. But he has to make a vow to Marge to not just follow through with the legally mandated acts of sobriety, but really live it. So they say I might have a problem. Homie, do you ever drink alone? Does the Lord count as a person? No. Then yes. Do you need a beer to fall asleep? Thank you, that'd be nice.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Do you ever hide beer around the house? Do I ever? Do you ever drink to escape from reality? His pecs are dancing. Homie, I'd like you to do something for me. You name it. I want you to give up beer for a month.
Starting point is 01:05:36 You got it. No deer for a month. But when he went pressed on it, he admits he says deer, which was nice. I feel like Homer in two years would have just kept lying. No, I think that's what makes the good Simpsons the Simpsons, that he actually has to cop. But there is a dark joke where he cracks open a beer after the lights go off, like the drink in bed. Because he said no drinking tomorrow. I remember thinking there'd be a huge stigma to drinking alone.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I do it all the time. Well, so how do you do on that test yourself, guys? I just pulled out whiskey from behind the computer. Oh, so you do it all the time. Well, so how do you do on that test yourself, guys? I just pulled out whiskey from behind the computer. Oh, so you do it. I drink pretty regularly. I don't think to excess, but maybe five years ago, I had to take some medication where it was like, you can't drink for two weeks while you take
Starting point is 01:06:17 this. And I was like, oh, this is going to be interesting. I wonder if my life will be better, if I'll be happier, if I'll be more productive, if I'll feel better about myself. No, none of that happened. I just didn't drink for two weeks, and there was no interesting. I wonder if my life will be better, if I'll be happier, if I'll be more productive, if I'll feel better about myself. No, none of that happened. I just didn't drink for two weeks and there was no changes. I was like, okay, so it's not alcohol.
Starting point is 01:06:30 That's not why I'm sad. As somebody who writes a lot. I was relieved. Editing audio of him singing, I better be drunk. I was telling someone about the weird alcoholism roots of this show. I have to do this after I'm done with everything else,
Starting point is 01:06:48 which is at the earliest 8 p.m. to 9 p.m. to when I watch The Simpsons. So it's like if I'm not drinking, it's not fun. It's not recreational. It's work. We got in trouble at our old job for drinking there. But, you know, obviously I i almost never like i don't buy beer when i go to the grocery store like it's rare i have alcohol in my house i have like one thing of vodka in my fridge that i like drink out of every now and then i'll tell you what though
Starting point is 01:07:17 the election day and the three days following i was like it's the most i need to drink to turn off my brain at least for four hours because like i can't i cannot focus my my duff is the californian beer racer 5 it's my standby on air high five uh racer 5 it's nice and strong yes delicious i love race not too perfumey for an ipa that's great homer's hom was singing, if I may bring it back. It's now known as the Can-Can, almost officially, by Orpheus in the Underworld by Jacques Offenbach. I was looking up around the bend. Is that like a suite from a ballet? It is.
Starting point is 01:07:59 It is, and it's now become synonymous with Can-Canning. So when we come back for a commercial break. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. We care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Did I mention that we care? I think that was the first twister mouth we've seen in a long time. That's right, sweet cakes for all. Sweet cakes for all. Yeah. And so I saw this episode and watched it a million times.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Years later, I saw a certain Stanley Kubrick movie, and yet I never put together until a few years ago when I saw them next to each other. I'm like, this is the boobs from Clockwork Orange. It is fucking brilliant. It's seeking a very dirty thing on television. The two cupcakes together are the breasts from the same angle of Malcolm McDowell's character trying to grab the boobs
Starting point is 01:09:10 and then falling to the ground in the same way with the same sound effect. That was another one where I was like, why are my parents laughing so hard at this? And then much later. A little of the old in-out. The Ludwig van. The Ludwig van.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Fucking love that movie. Andanta's little helper at this point is the only one to see received more of the clockwork orange torture that's true oh yeah it's our second clockwork at least that's the thing like you do not have to have seen that many movies at this point to get every joke on the simpsons well have you seen everything hitchcock has done and everything uh kubrick has done, you are halfway to getting everything in the first five seasons. Watch Citizen Kane, you're up another 20%.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Well, this was back in the monoculture time where there were the 10 classic movies that everybody knew as important movies. Of course you've seen this, yeah. Everyone's seen Doctor Strangelove, right? And Homer just walks right by Bart shivering on the floor like he doesn't even look.
Starting point is 01:10:06 He's got bigger problems. I love this. Homer's musical interlude. And I was 17 I drank some very good beer I drank some very good beer I purchased with a fake ID My name was Brian McKee
Starting point is 01:10:26 I stayed up listening to Queen When I was 17 And I love that it's the second Frank Sinatra parody of the season. Oh yeah, Witchcraft. Witchcraft. That was season three? Sorry, season three. We're doing this all out of order.
Starting point is 01:10:45 But this is Frank Sinatra's It Was a Very Good Year. When I was 17 It was a very good year I don't love a lot of Frank Sinatra, but I do like... This is a personal song that he clearly had a hand in writing i was gonna actually know yeah no he did not i didn't think he made it famous and he made it his own with that instrumentation but like the kingston trio had a hit version of this like a few years
Starting point is 01:11:14 beforehand but he made it a standard like he made it a standard with that rendition that rendition of it yes and if you've seen soprano season two 2, what Homer is singing opens up the entire season. You can see Pauly Walnuts getting his dick on. It's a perfect, it is a great song about nostalgia, which is funny on this show. But he sings about getting older and older. And he sings about getting as old as he is, I guess, currently. I gotta tell you, I read, oh man, I hate reading Simpsons threads. This queen didn't exist.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yes. When Homer was 17? It would have been like 1973 or 74 at this point. Not at the age. It's such bullshit. You know what's happening. And it's so weird. If someone watching this now,
Starting point is 01:12:00 and I love that The Simpsons does kind of stand the test of time. You can watch almost every episode right now. When I was 17, was 20 years younger queen's debut album nope freddie mercury's been dead for more than 20 years yeah yeah well i liked that queen reference as another one i got as a kid because i thanks to wayne's world oh yeah i had gotten into queen and got their greatest hits double album and every song and it is the greatest. It is. My parents were into Queen in the 70s, of course, but when Wayne's World came out,
Starting point is 01:12:29 they just bought all the CDs again and I got into Queen too. Oh, really? Even into their weaker late 80s stuff, it's still like, the Flash theme song is fun. Dude, so good. And I am immortal. I am now king.
Starting point is 01:12:40 What was the one in the grand... One Vision. That song is amazing. And Homer's Brian McGee is the original McLovin. McGee, McLovin, same joke. They stole it, Evan Goldberg. It's very weird. At this point, if you use the word Mick in front of any syllable, you're just American. That's true. You're no longer a filthy Irishman.
Starting point is 01:13:02 That's so weird. You're not just more than half of Kids in the Home. I brought it back. Thank God. Oh, Bart then. I like that Lisa knows exactly what Bart's plan is. He's trying to present it. Lisa found it. But he's doing his Blofeld impression there.
Starting point is 01:13:17 That was really great. I don't know. I only got in a Twitter argument with this year's Simpsons Halloween special. Mofinger. Oh, yeah. And there's like two James Bond references, and I kept telling people, like, this is The Kingsman. And one bummed me out because The Kingsman is amazing. It is a great film.
Starting point is 01:13:38 It's really good. It's an R-rated superhero film from, oh, my God, Mark Millar and Matthew Vaughn. It's amazing, and you should beg for another one. The Simpsons, well, it's a Bond parody. It's not! You're parodying a parody of the Bond films! Sorry, I got really, really mad about that.
Starting point is 01:13:59 So many people haven't seen Kingsman. It is so funny. Look up Kingsman in, what would you call it? Church fight scene where he, like there's a prolonged sequence
Starting point is 01:14:09 where he attacks the Westboro Baptist Church. It's the greatest fight scene on screen in five years. I like this already. When they make Colin Firth a superstar, an action star.
Starting point is 01:14:18 It is amazing. Like Colin Firth is known for the King's Speech and before that BBC costume dramas and Bridget Jones Diaries. So if you watch this year's Simpsons Halloween special and wonder how this James Bond parody went to a prolonged series of fighting and death, it's a fucking Kingsman parody.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And knowing the process of the show bummed me out so much. You weren't confident enough to label this as a Kingsman parody. They didn't trust people enough. Yeah, they didn't trust people enough. you weren't confident enough to label this as a Kingsman parody I get that in a movie in the Simpsons movie they didn't trust the audience as much but like this is the show you didn't trust me to know Hitchcock and Orson Welles and you just let me find it
Starting point is 01:14:55 and there was a joke there that you didn't need to get the reference to understand and you should have been as the Simpsons encouraged people to watch the Kingsman that would be the really cool thing to do but Al Jean's a wuss now man uh so they go to the i see the baseball game no wait i was gonna say the the end to the lisa b plot is unsatisfying go to the science fair first they do a joke with millhouse's slinky which is basically his horsey joke pretty lame mill at least edna like crapped
Starting point is 01:15:24 on him. I know now that would have ruined me for life if a teacher said that to me. And also, I do like the line, I was aiming for his head. And then I forgot that Bart wins. Like, Bart in his dream gets first prize, and then in real life, he's handed the first prize again by Skinner. At the end of the B plot, it's no comeuppance for Lisa. Yeah. This is shades of diorama-rama, it's like they decide it doesn't matter. There are no stakes.
Starting point is 01:15:49 It's just like an arbitrary choice made by authority figures. All my favorites. Yes. They're all here. They're all here. And Homer imagining drinking gasoline was a no-no from the standards and practices, but they let it go. That's what you call an attractive nuisance.
Starting point is 01:16:04 This is my favorite because, again, I hate sports, and Homer has quit drinking and goes to a baseball game. The windup and the 2-2 pitch. Oh, no shit, wait a minute. The banner is calling for time. Looks like he's going and getting himself a new
Starting point is 01:16:20 bat. And now there's a beach ball on the field. And the ball boys are discussing which one of them's gonna go get it. I never realized how boring this game is. Whoa, jeez. Chris liked it so much.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I just went to a minor league baseball game where it's $20 and it's like, admittance, seat, all you can drink. You gotta get through this game, guy. It's without that, all you can drink. And this is unwatchable. You've got to get through this game, guy. It's without that, all you can drink and eat. It was crazy in Milwaukee. Only in the minor leagues.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Yeah. But that's what this is. They establish this as the minor leagues. Springfield doesn't have a major league team. Baseball, yeah, it was the. So boring. Oh, the Springfield. Isotopes.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Isotopes. Yeah. Isotopes lose. Isotopes lose. But I've been to baseball games and I do enjoy them without drinking too much but that's also because I am a cheapskate. It's another reason I don't drink as much because just
Starting point is 01:17:11 the idea of like $7 to not even be drunk yet. That's why the joke worked for me because I went to that minor league game and that's what they are and it includes free, all free drinks from the local brewery which is usually stronger than your buddy. That's very nice.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I like the visual gag of Barney two-fisting beers, too. And Homer's still hanging out with him, even though Barney sold him out to the cops. Yeah. And then we get a nice return of Jub-Jub, Jub-Jub's second name. That's right, at the supperware party. I couldn't believe that was controversial. Someone's like, it's not Jub-Jub, guys.
Starting point is 01:17:42 It's Jud-Jud. No, it isn't. What? It is Jub-Jub. We we're the authority 98 of the time i'm i'm wrong constantly i'll never put that out commenter had me second guessing it and i'll admit to guys i cut i have been cutting out things where i've said it and i was wrong and then kept and i was like well i can just remove this part so when i'm wrong i the editing is also me double-checking on Wikipedia. Please cut out my mistakes, too.
Starting point is 01:18:08 I do it. I'm giving this my line of the show because it's just so fucking funny. That's the joke. Homer going back to Al-Anon, confessing when everything is acceptable here. So, Homer, please feel free to tell us anything. There's no judgment here. The other day I was so desperate for a beer, I snuck into the football stadium and ate the dirt under the bleachers.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I cast thee out! That is the perfect joke in the show. Yeah, it really is like underlying,, religion just wants to judge you. Yeah. It doesn't want to help you. You've sunk too low. But he ate dirt. Reverend Lovejoy's a hypocrite.
Starting point is 01:18:51 All of it is so great. And then the Homer, like, it's mostly animation, but beautiful animation. Just him being chased by Duff everywhere he goes. He's being assaulted by Duff on all fronts. And I would say for an ad campaign, dropping bottles out of a blimp is dangerous and you will get sued. Yeah, like what if a bunch of teenagers came to collect them? Yeah. But like when we talk about like behind the scenes, we talk about we're going to go out tonight and get hammered.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I still use this. Chuggler, chuggler, chuggler, chuggler, chuggler, chuggler, chuggler, chuggler. I love that. I love the chuggler. You can just hum that to yourself. It is good. I like that bit. I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:19:36 I also love his calendar that has the Rockwell Duff picture. It's cute. And just Homer's shaky hand on the 30th day yeah and there's another thing that i wish i knew what the original line is because homer says i'm coming back loaded send the kids home i've come back loaded but the camera moves down to his gut when he says it which makes me think there was another line like a stomach joke or a beer go joke i'm gonna get fatter again here's the line i'm proud of you homie well, I'm going to get fatter again. I'm going to fill this beer. I'm proud of you, homie. Marge, I'm going to Moe's.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Send the kids to the neighbors. I'm coming back loaded. You don't have to start drinking right away. I was thinking we could go for a bike ride. But Marge, the bar flies are expecting me. Moe and Barney and that guy who calls me Bill. But you look better. You don't sweat while you eat anymore.
Starting point is 01:20:28 And look, you've saved more than a hundred dollars. I found it in your pants. I love that guy who calls me Bill. That joke was great. It's a nice little joke. This is the last clip I have. The gang at Moe's.
Starting point is 01:20:43 I think that was the first yoink. I think that was the first yoink. I think that was the first spoken yoink of taking something. I was thinking about that. Was it Lenny getting the diamond taken out of his tooth? Oh, he hasn't got a diamond in his tooth yet. That's in Last Exit to Springfield. Okay, that's right. Like, Lenny, you wouldn't have that diamond in your tooth.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Yoink. I forgot he got the plastic surgery in Burns for Coffin to cough work. So I can see why you got confused. So I do think this is the first yoink. The spoken yoink which is it's a George Meyer favorite but he says he didn't create it that he took it from an Archie comics
Starting point is 01:21:14 page. So it's just a written sound effect. Henry is wearing an Archie shirt right now. I'm wearing a Jughead. You are. I have a dueling origin story Henry. On a commentary I heard that, I don't think he said it, but they said it's the sound that is made on the Flintstones when someone grabs it like that. Yeah, but it's not someone saying yoink.
Starting point is 01:21:31 It's just the vocal. You're talking to a guy who owns the sound effect library. Is there a boink? Yeah. Okay. Dude, yes. Yes. It could be both of those.
Starting point is 01:21:39 But I love this about the gang. It's the life of a post-35-year-old alcoholic. But it stops being your animation. Ironically, in the bar, you're just about the gang. It's the life of a post-35-year-old alcoholic. But it stops being your animation. Ironically, in the bar, you're just in the bar. Larry, who's never been named, he's in all these sequences twice. There are two Larrys in this last scene. They were running out of bar flies. It seems like an animation mistake, but it also punctuates the joke very well.
Starting point is 01:22:06 This is the worst Moe's has ever looked. Well, well, look who it is. Mr. I-Don't-Need-Alcohol-To-Enjoy-Life. We hate him, right, fellas? Moe, give me a beer. Hey, everybody, Homer's back! Describes accurately how i feel life feels about me but then mo slaps barney and like like down rub it up and it holds on it for a second just so you
Starting point is 01:22:36 can feel it with barney's like oh like it's not a it is a joke but it's like hey think of this he slapped barney and it hurt barney yeah you're supposed to think about it but it's like, hey, think of this. He slapped Barney and it hurt Barney. You're supposed to think about it. Then it's a reference to Reefer Madness when he points to the camera. He's like, and you. Yeah, the judge at the end of Reefer Madness, right? Except that it's- Your children and your children and maybe even your children. This is the longest Talking Simpsons ever.
Starting point is 01:22:59 How did this happen with Dufflis? I think we all like alcohol. Well, and then it ends with them riding a bicycle and and the as aljean would say on other things 20 seconds of sweetness makes you forget all the darkness before and henry and i were talking like uh we said we were talking together about this and if this was like a david merkin episode who ran five and six there would be an immediate undercutting of this will all be back to normal next week because he did that a lot like we're gonna give you the cheap uh feel good ending but we're also going to say nope it's going to go
Starting point is 01:23:27 back to normal we're having the button exactly yeah when hi carumba homer and ed became friends and they make it very clear yes they won't be friends in the next episode and there's no explanation like part says oh see i guess it didn't reset next week on the simpsons oh see they're back to hating and but in this time're like, let's pretend that Homer stops drinking for a while. Homer at least says, Homer doesn't say, I'm never coming back to the house. True, true. He says, put it on ice. I'm just going to have a nice time with my wife.
Starting point is 01:23:55 And it might imply he's going to just drink less, just not as often. But it doesn't happen. Homer is a mega drunk. Or at least give Marge the empty gesture of not immediately getting blasted the second his little challenge is over. And that reference is to the lengthy bike riding scene in
Starting point is 01:24:13 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid set to Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head. I've never seen this movie and I feel bad. Can you explain the context of why these two characters are riding a bicycle built for two? This is why I watched the movie because this scene was so extensive of a reference to it.
Starting point is 01:24:29 It was one of my parents' favorite movies. My mom's favorite movie. I watched it. Tyler, my old roommate, Tyler Wilder, used to be on Vigigame Apocalypse every week. It's one of his favorite movies as well. It's a beautiful western. I've never seen it. It's a western made in a then modern... why it was like an anti-western style like it was well so
Starting point is 01:24:51 there's classic john wayne westerns sure and then there were the sergio leone westerns which were kind of like the tarantino westerns of their amplified westerns why are we fucking around with the stuff you don't like here's all of it but meanwhile this one with paul newman and robert redford in the leads this was more like a buddy cop western of relaxed stuff and also saying like the tough guy dreams of the west are bullshit like and there's this great scene where a member of uh butch's gang challenges him to be the leader and challenges him to a fight and then paul newman just kicks like he's getting beat up he's like Redford's like, you're going to lose this fight. And then Paul Newman just kicks him in the balls to win.
Starting point is 01:25:30 And so it's about them being on the run. I'm a hemophiliac. But because, so there's a fun little side moment early in the film where Robert Redford's character is sleeping. And his girlfriend, though, is excited because they just bought this new thing, a bicycle. Who would have thought? So then it's just like kind of a music video of just Paul Newman and this actress riding around on the bicycle and just having fun. And it's also kind of weird that, like, he's friendly with her in a way that, like, you – but it shows Robert Redford doesn't mind. He's like, well, no, you're not dating my girlfriend either.
Starting point is 01:26:08 It's written by Burt Bacharach. Oh. Didn't know that. But this version is sung by our old friend Kip Lennon. He's back. I mean, I thought I was going to surprise you guys. Because I was looking so hard for music credits. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Kip Lennon, the guy who did the Michael Jackson sing-along. He's done a few covers throughout the last few seasons. Yeah. He's really, really good. He's the guy that did all the Michael Jackson singing. He's singing the song that will close us out. But if you want to see a nice little, a nice long, but fun and beautifully shot Western starring Robert Redford and Paul Newman at their hunkiest, it's really good. And it's got great shootouts.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Now, it's not my favorite Western by any stretch. Like, I'd watch The Searchers, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Oh, shit, now I'm so bad with it. Outlaw Josie Wales? No, the one that ends with a giant shootout that Ertus Borgnine, that Sam Peckinpah directed. Magnificent Seven? No, The one that ends with the giant shootout that Erdős Borgnein is, that Sam Peckinpah directed. Magnificent Seven? No, The Wild Bunch.
Starting point is 01:27:10 The Wild Bunch, got it. Wild Bunch, thank you. Everybody's screaming at me. There's tons of, I do love Westerns. I do love Westerns. Actually, I just watched, okay, real quick aside. I have nowhere else to talk about this. We're already 90 minutes into this episode.
Starting point is 01:27:22 This is a good episode for Henry. I'm not on bonus time, so I can't tell this story. So my stepdad, I spent Thanksgiving with my mom and stepdad. He loves old Westerns, and he bought one of those, like, 80 Westerns with John Wayne. They're awful. Most of them are awful. They're all VHS transfers. So he pulled out this one that actually is not a VHS transfer.
Starting point is 01:27:44 It actually filmed very well. It was the top one of the box set. When I looked at it, I was like, it's like Wayne Hopper. And I was like, wow, John Wayne and Dennis Hopper? No. Dennis Hopper and John Wayne's son. So it's them trying to make a John Wayne film And John Wayne's son. Oh. It's them trying to make a John Wayne film around John Wayne's
Starting point is 01:28:08 son and everybody around him is great and John Wayne's son is a terrible, terrible actor. But Dennis Hopper is awesome in it. As is the old man from Robocop slash the Shamrock masks. I got
Starting point is 01:28:24 you. That guy. Perpetual executive. He's the judge in that movie, too. So there's tons of great actors. Yvonne Craig, who is Batgirl, she plays a señorita who, well, of course, they're like,
Starting point is 01:28:37 well, we need a beautiful Mexican woman. Hire a white woman and have her speak. Spray her with Trump tanner. But they're surrounded by real Mexican actors but then of course when they have to have the love interest it's got to be
Starting point is 01:28:48 a white woman it's a real Heston in Touch of Evil move so it was a fun movie to watch I'm a Mexican not a Mexican except that
Starting point is 01:28:58 John Wayne's son is a horrible actor so you heard it from Henry sorry butch casting in Sundance Kid is Henry's
Starting point is 01:29:04 shoe-in of the week. This has been the Lord of the Rings extended edition version of Talking Simpsons. Thanks for sticking with us. I hope this was not going on for too long,
Starting point is 01:29:13 but I think everything we talked about was relevant. You could have watched four Simpsons episodes in the time you took to listen to this. But instead, you listened to us.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Good for you. Good for you. You did it on the train. I think this is our Christmas week episode. It is. Yeah. It's an extended special, so I hope it on the train. I think this is our Christmas week episode. It is. Yeah. It's an extended special, so I hope you guys enjoyed this.
Starting point is 01:29:28 I am hammered, and I didn't start drinking until we started doing the show. I hope you guys at least enjoy this while you're on your family vacation, and you need to hide from your family. Exactly. From the many racist uncles that are infiltrating our society. All my uncles are so nice. I made a racist uncle joke on Facebook. He's like, man, what?
Starting point is 01:29:47 I do have a racist uncle, and it's true. I don't have one. I have racist grandparents. They're all dead. Well, yeah, no. My dad is the racist uncle who upsets my uncles at events. He's the one who will say, well, I don't know why they don't just go to events. Cranberry sauce. We'll end on that note everybody this has been talking simpsons i've been your host bob mackie
Starting point is 01:30:12 you can find me on twitter as bob servo i also write for fandom.com and somethingawful.com you can find my other podcast retronauts every monday at retronauts.com or usgamer.net and retronauts is a classic gaming podcast every week, a new topic about old games. Everybody else. Yeah, we do a show called Laser Time. We've just dropped our Filthiest Christmas Songs, Volume 2, which is songs we found.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Jesus, they're hilarious. I'm on it. All of you are on it. We're both, and with Dave, who was just on a couple episodes ago. And Dave is on it. Dave is the Laser Time staple. Laser Time is the topic-based pop culture show that we do.
Starting point is 01:30:46 I do want to encourage people to listen to 302010. If you liked all the reminiscence in this one, that's all that show is. Kind of what that show is, to look at the world of pop culture 30, 20, and 10 years ago
Starting point is 01:30:57 to that week, what the whole world was like. How do you watch aliens when the Challenger just blew up? That didn't actually happen. But how do you celebrate the bears winning the Super Bowl when the Challenger blows up two days later? That did happen. But it's a scenario that did happen, and we make a bunch of these fun shows for you guys.
Starting point is 01:31:16 And, hey, it's the holidays. You should be bored. Hopefully you're listening this far into the episode. The answer, Henry, is you shuffle your pain away. And I am H-E-N-E-R-E-Y-G on Twitter, and if you're looking for more content, patreon.com slash lasertime has all that you need. For just
Starting point is 01:31:31 $5 a month, you, at least, you will get access to the first season of Talking Simpsons, our special wrap-up episodes, I think 100 bonus times? No, 80 bonus times at this point? Yeah, it's once a week. Movie commentaries, and bonus times at this point. Yeah. It's once a week movie commentaries. And if you pay a little extra $10 a month,
Starting point is 01:31:48 you get access to a bunch of video commentaries on classic things like including some Christmas specials. Uh, yeah. Fraggle rock and Sonic, the hedge guard and the Christmas special barrel. And we also have a 30, 2010 wrap up to wrap up the whole year of 1986, 96, and 06.
Starting point is 01:32:08 And that pays the rent. That pays for the red wine we've been drinking. The majority of you who listen to this aren't... I call it podcasting juice. I'm loving being this poor and doing what I want, but again, it would be very nice if you have any extra Christmas money. Patreon.com slash lasertime. We do monthly commentaries. Semi-weekly...
Starting point is 01:32:29 Jesus, I'm done. We hope you have a very merry whatever you do. Christmas Day or Hanukkah or Kwanzaa or whatever. Or just jerking off in quiet darkness. In memory of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I'm going to lick my second one. Thank you for listening, folks. jerking off in quiet darkness. In memory of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:32:45 So what's next? Thank you for listening, folks. We'll be back next week to decide if Last Exit to Springfield really is the best Simpsons episode, and I don't think it is. We'll see you then. Rain drops are falling on my head And they keep falling But there's one thing I know
Starting point is 01:33:05 The blues they send to greet me won't defeat me It won't be long till happiness steps up to greet me Raindrops keep falling on my head But that doesn't mean my eyes will soon be turning red The cry is not for me Cause I'm never gonna stop the rain by complaining Because I'm free Nothing's worrying me
Starting point is 01:33:57 it won't be long till happiness steps up to greet me. The raindrops keep falling on my head. But that doesn't mean my eyes will soon be turning red. The cry is not for me. Because I'm never gonna stop the rain by complaining. Wow. Infotainment.

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