Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Homer Loves Flanders

Episode Date: June 14, 2017

We back right into this episode where Homer shockingly befriends Flanders after trying to bash his head in with a pipe. We dig deep into the episode’s many subtle references, all while laughing at q...uotes in this week’s podcast!

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Starting point is 00:00:36 geekfuel.com slash laser time and get a free bonus star wars item worth $20. I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, hoy, everybody, and welcome to Talking Simpsons, now approved by the Fruit Punch Advisory Board. I'm your host, the very, very annoying Bob Mackie, and this is the Laser Time Podcast Network's chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who else is here with me today? Goofballs enthusiast, Henry Gilbert. Who else is here? The sacrilegious Chris Anteasden.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And special guest? I'm Dave Rudden, but you can call me Stitch Face. And this episode we're doing today is Homer Loves Flanders. What did he say? I don't know. Something about being gay. Yeah, burn on you, Bob. Jeez. And today's episode aired on March 17, 1994.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And as always, Chris will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh, my God. Glory be Bobby. Comedies like the Piano, Philadelphia, and Schindler's List sweep the Oscars. Every rate in the world sees the sign from Ace of Base and Woody Woodpecker's creator, Walter Lance, is dead at 94. He got the last laugh. So, you know, Ace of Base, I'm not going to dig into all of it here, but Cracked has an article that pretty handily unlocks that that was written by white supremacists.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And that it's the sign is finding the sign of white supremacy and white power. We're starting in this quickly, huh? They found the background of the lead singer, the writer of those songs. He was a member of these Eastern European white supremacist movements. Their other single was originally called It's a Beautiful White Life. And All That She Wants is Another White Baby. This all makes sense now. The next track was Subscribe to InfoWars.
Starting point is 00:02:39 If you've seen the All That She Wants video, which, by the way, is about a welfare queen, that song. But All That She Wants is another baby. He's gone tomorrow. And they then show in the music video, she has a Star of David necklace on. So, I don't know. Look it up, folks. But anyway. Just trying to beat the record for comments in this episode right at the very top?
Starting point is 00:03:02 I listened to I Saw the Sign 8 million times when it was new. It was huge. I loved it so much. One of my sister's birthday parties, she had an Ace of Ace CD, but it was only a single. So we heard I Saw the Sign and All That She Wants over and over for like 90 minutes.
Starting point is 00:03:19 The final key change in that song is amazing. But we have to move on to Homer Loves Flanders. This was the last idea for an episode bestowed upon The Simpsons by Conan O'Brien. That is true. And this is actually written by, this is one of their freelance scripts by David Richardson. So I don't know who that is, but he got around a bunch. I looked up pretty much just as a lifelong writer of comedy scripts. He never really created his own show or headed it up.
Starting point is 00:03:43 The longest he seemed to stay on any place was nine episodes of the john loriket show i cannot wait for talking loriket yeah that show is so dark and weird i watched all of it at age 12 yeah it was fascinating the first time i heard bobcat goldthwait's real voice i would have assumed that this was written by one of the regulars because it is i would probably put this in my top 15 episodes and there is a reason because this and Lemon of Troy, two seasons later, are both episodes that I missed the original time they aired. Then I think I missed the rerun, because I think they're both pretty late in the season. And then the rerun would be late in the summer.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Missed it. My brother had to tell me about both of them, and they both sounded so outlandish. Like, no, that's not an episode. They go to Shelbyville. Homer becomes friends with Flanders. I don't't believe it they do disrupt the status quo in ways that bart and lisa are uncomfortable with yes i also heard that dave richardson on there he mentions that he or he was dating an actress at the time of writing this script and he was writing it in a hotel room while she was filming a movie and i was like man i wonder i guess they're not
Starting point is 00:04:43 dating anymore else he would have said my wife kathy griffin well they they joke about it on the commentary like dave dave merkin's like and her name is oh yeah the show opens with the return of ion springfield we haven't seen it in one of my favorite jokes and i always forget which episode this comes from i love this joke very much just miles from your doorstep hundreds of men are given weapons and trained to kill the government calls it the army but a more alarmist name would be the killbot factory yes i love the font like the computer font that says the killbot and i i was watching this with my girlfriend who doesn't always laugh out loud i saw this joke coming a mile away and she lost it. Like, yes. I mean, that is
Starting point is 00:05:26 cable news now. No matter your political stance, that's just the same kind of news scare tactic. You've got to break away from the MSM, man. It is weird that it's under the Ion Springfield banner. I always assume that with celebrity news.
Starting point is 00:05:42 That's true. You're right, Dave. Actually, I was thinking that while watching. Ion Springfield is normally about fluff pieces. This is investigative journalism. It should be whatever. Local field pieces. What, like Kent Bites Back or whatever? The one with the barking dog?
Starting point is 00:05:57 Well, though, also, Ion Springfield wouldn't normally cover a sports event. That would be in the sports section of the show. All of this is framing this season. I've got to say, after five seasons, I thought they would have this nailed down. Come on, guys. I might give, if we do a wrap-up, usually, framing this season I thought they would have this nailed down I might give If we do a wrap up usually for this season Ken Brockman We're learning a lot of weird things About his personality and ideology
Starting point is 00:06:14 So it looks like he's just found out About the army That's a great read on that Ken Brockman Might be our season MVP Our season MVP He is slowly losing his mind Throughout season 5 It is the easiest
Starting point is 00:06:28 I know we're on the air And I don't care If this episode If any episode is about Some event happening in Springfield Like It seems like the most natural way To introduce it is
Starting point is 00:06:35 Like the news is talking about it And here it is Well and So then he talks about The big Pigskin classic is coming up And He introduces the Springfield atoms which did
Starting point is 00:06:46 not appear in another episode until 2011 not to be confused with the topes are the baseball team but they're both owned by mr burns but this is the only one that implies that that yeah burns owns all the teams in town i mean just by the nuclear motif you could assume that anyway but the atoms weren't used again until 2011 i think is this because if they wanted to do a football joke like say homer owns the denver broncos they just name an nfl team yeah you know but in this case it is they make up uh shelbyville sharks yeah um and i think these are considered minor league teams in this universe correct these are not major league uh n. That's an NFL type. Those are grown men. They are not college level teams. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It's a big place. It's not arena football. I try not to think about it too much because, remember, the local clown show host is a billionaire. Yeah, that's true. A worldwide sensation. And this is a world where there are major league baseball players who play for those teams, and then there's also the capital city. Well, the capital city is the majors.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah, but are they playing the LA Dodgers? Are they playing the New York Mets? As of this recording, Homer has been inducted in the baseball hall of fame. Oh, yeah. It's getting even more confusing. I just know it's not the mayor's fault the stadium collapsed. You know, since you mentioned that, I'll bring it up. A fan of the show went to that.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Oh, shit. And told me that Al Jean was there and that he said hello to Al Jean and told him about our show. Oh God, don't do this. And he says that those guys sound like crazy, but in a good way. So thank you, Al Jean. And I will never appear on their show. I mean, he's still making the show. I think we could get other people who are a little less busy.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Yeah, the episodes they don't like, that's what I'm working on. But the Pixien Classic is also the first true introduction of the Shelbyville-Springfield rivalry. Yes. I feel like it is. Oh, really? Previously, the town was mentioned, but they did not have this rivalry with Springfield.
Starting point is 00:08:34 This introduces that to the show. In Monorail, it's more of a Shelbyville. Yeah. They definitely felt competition with Shelbyville, but it wasn't so close and then the other time shelbyville had been there just like that homer went looking for herb's birth certificate at shelbyville or right you're right yeah but this is very clear there is a rivalry they there are multiple jokes on and this is the first real introduction of it and the oakley and weinstein episodes would actually go to shelbyville go more into shelbyville the culture and the people and what it's like it's bizarro Springfield
Starting point is 00:09:05 for the most part. Yeah, well, that is the season six one, though. That's not an Oakley and Weinstein one. That's true. So everybody wants a ticket to the big game and Homer more so than anyone.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Those aren't tickets to the game, Homer. What do you mean? It says right here, free wig with every purchase of large wig. Downtown wig center. Why, you little...
Starting point is 00:09:23 Hmm, free wig. I, you little... Hmm. Free wig. I love you, homie. I don't need her at all anymore. I love that final line. I was going to originally question why Bart would have a coupon for the wig place, but then we know two years later he goes to the wig sphere, so he obviously
Starting point is 00:09:44 enjoys them. He to the wig sphere so he obviously enjoys them he follows the wig community that joke my girlfriend did not like well first off i like the implication that homer must have eaten tickets at some point because of the because of me they have a warning and then bart tricks homer out of 50 bucks easily without even saying these are tickets he's like i give you these for 50 bucks. Sold! We're lucky Homer didn't eat the tickets as he did before. Homer is so jerk-ass Homer in this one. He's gotta be. People talk about how Scully
Starting point is 00:10:11 the season 9 onward is really jerk-ass Homer, but no. He is so jerk-ass here. He is so mean to everyone, cruel to everybody, and heartless. I think they try to get away with it in a sense in that Homer, for the most part, he is not, there's no malicious intent. He's just like ignorant to the
Starting point is 00:10:27 feelings of people around him. He's like, I'll just come in and eat your dinner. Like there's no like, I can't wait to do this. Except in a few instances where he wants to murder someone and almost does. But I like, I love the joke. I don't eat her at all anymore. The intention of that is very cruel. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:10:44 It doesn't imply that he needs sex or food or laundry just so into her hair that's the and and also when he uh when they break up and i forget which episode that is that he replaces her with a big shrub that has secrets of a successful man this season's finale and yeah but then homer i i also love any excuse for another actor on the show to imitate Julie Cabney. And I think they all pitch Marge lines as Marge in the writer's room. That is very true. So Homer is desperate to get tickets.
Starting point is 00:11:12 He is second in line. I did it. Second in line. And all I had to do was miss eight days of work. With the money you would have made working, you could have bought tickets from a scalper. In theory, yes. Jerk. That's just it.
Starting point is 00:11:24 The ticket guy. It's just the ticket guy making a season five appearance phased out pretty soon right yeah well i feel like by this even by season five bronson voice would be cast in those roles more so than just a ticket guy yeah this is neither here nor there but i talked about i'd never seen dirty dozen before and i get a of, a couple more Simpsons reference. And we talked about it with the Borg 9 episode. But that fucking, Bronson is exactly the one being imitated by Hank Azaria. Oh, for sure. From that movie.
Starting point is 00:11:58 When I think of people waiting in line for something like that, or when I see people standing in line to get a video game console at day one, I just think of this scene just like, money you made working. It's just like, I don't know, this time you spent waiting in line here. We make fun of it. Someday I'm going to have a stupid stand-up bit
Starting point is 00:12:15 for that fucking brief period I was doing that shit about the awful line culture in this city. And I do a ton of shit from the Itchy and Scratchy episode and this that I think of every single time. There's a new iPhone or a pizza or a croissant that's been baked differently.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I have literally gone to the avocado toast. You millennials and your avocados. We live in a world now where you can get the best tickets for anything just by being online when they go on sale.
Starting point is 00:12:43 1993, you had to wait. Maybe you could call for a ticket, but that's a gambit. You might just get a busy signal and be like, shit, out of luck. I remember in the late 90s, waiting in line for wrestling tickets. At the stadium?
Starting point is 00:12:59 Sitting outside of NASA Coliseum the night before, camping out, and then I get four throw seats for Raw or whatever. I did that one time with REM tickets on the fucking Monster Tour, inarguably REM's greatest out. Oh, sure. With the frequency, Kenneth. And a hurricane blew the roof off and I never went.
Starting point is 00:13:14 So I never waited in line for tickets again. Wow. Well, though I'm going to poke holes in Justin Therese's logic. With the money he made working, that assumes Homer's job is hourly. But I think his job is salaried. So, you know. He has insurance. This also could be a Monday morning. He could have been waiting outside for the weekend.
Starting point is 00:13:34 The next joke is a total, I think it comes from the mind of David Merkin. One guy buys the tickets with giving them $10 up front and Billy's just like, ah, sure. Then he walks away. Takes all $19,000. $30 30 000 yeah and that's not what 30 000 tickets looks like which that implies that everyone you see in the stadium later in the show all bought it from that guy or like one of his many subordinates i i feel like this is a ring of some sort tickets to a
Starting point is 00:13:59 quote-unquote professional football game or like the fucking chucky g style like in a big round thing that's why i feel like this is a minor league team yeah maybe so but there i mean arena football couldn't sell 30 000 tickets it's either college ball or or pro but that guy i think also just cut in line in front of homer like because he couldn't have actually been waiting next to homer the entire time he's just standing there with a hat on. He's such a sneaky guy. I think he probably cut in front of Homer. And Homer's so stupid, he would have missed that.
Starting point is 00:14:29 He would forget he was first in line. And Homer is just screwed. And then comes a joke that, honestly, I have in there. There's a joke about Don't Worry, Be Happy, which feels like the oldest hack-ass joke ever in 94. I cringed, yeah. I just love it because it's such a weird song let's listen to the comparison here i actually have both songs together thank you that was bobby mcfarran's new one i'm worried. Need money. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It's one of the first songs I remember liking as a kid. I am. As a kid? As a little comedy nerd. As a little comedy nerd. Like Robin Williams, Chevy Chase, and who was it? Martin Short? I don't know. I forget.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Billy Crystal, maybe? Yeah, it's just a bunch of comedians that are in my wheelhouse in the late 80s. They're dancing around having some dad fun, you know. Yeah, with Bobby and Farron in his one-hit wonder. It was also one of the most prominent one-hit wonders that I was aware of. It was heard everywhere all the time. And kids could sing it.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It was a very kid-friendly song. It was close to a children's song. And the rest of his music is unlistenable. Yes. Well, I mean, he got super into it. He's a jazz dude. Yeah, jazz dude. Skip, skip, skip.
Starting point is 00:15:45 The only thing I've ever heard that I liked is the Pink Panther theme. Wait a minute. The Pink Panther. Is Hakuna Matata a ripoff of this song? Oh, my God. It means no worries. Oh, my God. But yeah, the Don't Worry, Be Happy was, it was a stale-ass joke to do.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It was. I'm worried you need money. If you had a hit single in the fucking 80s, you're set for life. Yeah. Yeah, but I did. I want to replay it one more time here i'm certain this is dan castellaneta doing it and i feel like he was just goofing around to fill time but i want to give him he's like clapping or like hand boning or something you can hear him like listen in here
Starting point is 00:16:19 i heard it. That was Bobby McFerrin's new one, I'm Worried. Need money. It's kind of haunting. It's a terrible reference, but it sounds like one of the bosses in Nights into Dreams. What I love is it doesn't even sound like it's the end of a song. It sounds like the whole song. It sounds like a fucking Walgreens Halloween party. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:46 There's better jokes. It sticks out as a very odd joke, I think. But that's when Homer finds out that he could call in and win some tickets. That's how I learned about severe tire damage at age 11. I never knew that's what those reversed things were for. I would see jokes about those 20 years before I'd ever experienced them in real life because no one wants those in the book. But Homer's doze when he
Starting point is 00:17:09 rolls over it, which sounds like shaving a haircut, but with doze. I wish I'd captured that. Well, it's just in tune with this Tyrus one. Though Homer has a watch on that scene for no reason. It's a weird time of seeing him with the watch on design.
Starting point is 00:17:26 But he finds out Ned wins it instead of him. And then it cuts to an Eddie Money song, which feels like that is an expensive joke. They thought of that joke before animation. Homer is accurately air guitaring to it in time. Excellent guitar riff.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I feel like that was one of the things cut for syndication. It totally was. Because the first time I ever saw this episode was in Syndication, because I missed it the two times it aired. And I thought, watching this, I'm like, this is long and really not that funny, so I'm kind of glad it didn't make it.
Starting point is 00:17:58 It's an easy joke to cut. I can tell you about the other cut later on, and it's a way worse cut, but this one was fine with me. I mean, I like that scene just because it goes from him being sad he didn't get two tickets to getting two tickets to paradise yeah like i think i've probably only seen it on dv this episode on dvd once or twice so i thought for a second like they were doing like the they're playing two tickets to paradise and he starts like he his lip quivers i thought this is going to be another one of those like when you call like the uh child hotline and they play uh cats in the cradle and people start crying homer starts crying it's
Starting point is 00:18:29 like oh this is a homer's crying because he doesn't have to be in paradise but he turns it around yeah you know what that did feel like more of a season two two or three joke of instead homer just stops caring he just gets in the song which they didn't do with those ones before so then they go to like homer worried he's a loser and then bart kind of like it's it's kind of like them talking about the dumbening episode before and the the failure of a male simpson passed on from air to air bart goes you were a loser your father was a loser it's genetic man the dough really seals the deal and this is when lisa perfectly describes what the Shelbyville rivalry is. What's so special about this game anyway?
Starting point is 00:19:10 It's just another chapter in the pointless rivalry between Springfield and Shelbyville. They built a mini mall, so we built a bigger mini mall. They made the world's largest pizza, so we burned down their city hall. Yeah, they swore they'd get us back by spiking our water supply. But they didn't have the guts. The walls are melting again. So this is the, I think this is the third drug trip at this point. So Lisa drank the water at the Duff Gardens.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Bart drank the squishy. And so now Marge is going on a drug trip here. But this is with an actual drug, not bad water or sugar. This is some fast-acting LSD. She's instantly tripping. As an aspiring druggie in the 90s, we kept very careful track of how many...
Starting point is 00:20:03 Before it hit 10 seasons, every single Simpsons family member had tripped balls. Even Maggie? Even Maggie, yeah. Homer's a couple seasons away from his Quetzal Sacatonango pepper. But yeah, that was spiking the water supply and burning it out
Starting point is 00:20:19 sitting all like that. Those are criminal offenses the National Guard would be called. That's like Alabama-Auburn rivalries. That ESPN 30 for 30 about the rivalry is so amazing. War Eagle. I'm going to poison your fucking tree. How about that? This really happens.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So then Homer prays for ticket. God, if you really are God, you'll get me tickets to that game. Hi-de-lee-ho, neighbor. Want to go to the game with me? I got two tickets. Why do you mock me, oh Lord? Oh, that's not God. That's just a waffle that Bart tossed up there.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I know I shouldn't eat thee, but... Sacrilege. There's so much going on with that joke that I just love. It's the best. There's one that God apparently listens to his prayers and gives him the but it's cursed to Flanders and just slamming it in Flanders' face.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And also Homer thinks God is a waffle on his ceiling. Yes, is that what he's always thought of? It is a barrage of jokes yes it's and the sound of the waffle coming off the ceiling and he eats it oh and he eats it so and sacrilegious sacrilegious too and the waffle is an adaptation of a simpsons writer's room joke as well which is that uh in the simpsons writer's room back then there was caramel stuck to the ceiling some writer
Starting point is 00:21:47 stuck a bunch of caramel on the ceiling gross if you look in the itchy and scratchy writers room in the front the caramel is drawn on wow that's that's the way they described that writers room too just like not real food but piles of candy wonka style And so in a 1998 TV Guide celebration of The Simpsons where they were just interviewing writers about a lot of things, they asked Conan about it. And this is what he remembers from the show. Some writer had mashed a big blob of
Starting point is 00:22:16 caramel chews onto the ceiling and others had stuck stuff into it. No one ever bothered to take it down. It may still be there. It's probably now an historic landmark. There's probably a plaque on it. But that waffle is nothing compared to the sandwich
Starting point is 00:22:32 that he ate. Because if you think about it, it's just been on the ceiling, which is probably one of the cleanest places in a house. That's right. Not a lot of dust in the ceiling. And that Homer, Bart must have put it up there that day. Yeah. Marge would have got it already. Yeah, you would think she would. Why would Homer think...
Starting point is 00:22:49 You do need her, Homer. There's a lot... We can do an episode about this joke. Insane amount of jokes. The point is... What did she say? Like she spends 23 hours a day in this house? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:59 The point is that a waffle is better than God. The waffle was better. Comment about that, motherfuckers. So then Homer contemplates murder and is waiting outside of Flanders' house. Like, this is the most evil Homer's been. Yeah. Flanders, I decided I'd like to go to the game with you. Well, get out the Crayolas and color me tickled pink.
Starting point is 00:23:27 What's with the lead pipe? Are you going to give my noggin a flogging? Well, yeah. I just share a laugh over that. He's very okay with the idea that he was almost murdered. At the very least, knocked unconscious. Like, maybe not killed, but cracking your head, that would break his skull
Starting point is 00:23:45 being hit in the head with a lead pipe. I don't know, it always disappears in Final Fight for me. As we'll discover in like a scene Flanders has a friend on the team I'm surprised like no, but neither side reached out and just Ned would never cash in on the Lord's work
Starting point is 00:24:02 It doesn't seem like he's even a football fan in particular. Not really. He wasn't even aware. He's more interested in the tax deduction than the actual ticket. Well, I picked up on this dynamic this time while watching it,
Starting point is 00:24:12 where in the beginning of this episode, you think Flanders is going to be the annoying friend for Homer because he is annoying him in the beginning. He's embarrassed of Flanders, but soon Homer becomes the annoying friend in Flanders' life as opposed to the other way around. It teaches Flanders he should never have wanted to be Homer's friend.
Starting point is 00:24:27 And so they arrive at the game and then it's weird that Homer's worried about being seen with Ned, I guess, because it would be an assumption. There's some stigma on Ned? It's that mustache. People are saying he's hiding something. I feel like because Homer and Ned are both married that being seen together would be right as gay as something. It's a real pen situation. You can only have lunch or dinner with your wife. But meanwhile, Lenny and Carl aren't worried about being seen together.
Starting point is 00:24:55 We spent the past two seasons, Homer's becoming friends with Lenny and Carl more and more and Barney less. You would have think he would have been on their ticket situation. Maybe they only got those tickets through the stone cutters. That's right. I'm creating all this kid canon here. Actually, now we do have American robot cars just as as the Simpsons dreamed of. And they're slightly less dangerous than in this thing, though. Again, continuity error.
Starting point is 00:25:24 If that american robot car did smash into something why when they're leaving the game is the car perfectly fine is this ned's car that he's driving ned's car gets fucked up a million times in this episode well he gets one car and then he gets a new car and then also gets fucked up such a special kind of car i can't wait to get it or i like seeing the burns appearance the setup that he owns a team and that he definitely would cripple a child like just happily this was cut out a syndication and i missed this part because it was really good i love the his hand motion for i crippled it myself like the way his hand came back and forth
Starting point is 00:25:59 and this is a babe ruth reference right like i'm gonna hit like i'm gonna point to the sky so i'm gonna hit the ball for the little kid in the hospital. And early Milhouse being hurt terribly. It's when they realize that you can do a joke about cruelty to a child if it's Milhouse. As long as it's Milhouse. Milhouse doesn't count. Like, if that joke was even like,
Starting point is 00:26:18 if that joke was like Sherry or Terry or even, even Wendell. Even Uter. Yeah, Uter, like, well, Uter I feel like they could be. Yeah, as we learn later, nobody likes Milhouse. Nobody likes Milhouse. So I feel like it would have been pretty easy
Starting point is 00:26:33 for Quimby to find out who ate his food. Here's the thing. I feel like that joke is missing another segment because find out who did this, nobody does this to Quimby. They all stand up and then nothing happens. I feel like there should have been a beating or something happened to Homer. Or Homer should have pointed at somebody else and sold somebody else out.
Starting point is 00:26:50 It's like a setup with no punchline. I mean, it's funny that he's eating the food, but there's no follow-up to it. And I do hate beach balls at events, but they're distracting from stuff. I'm trying to enjoy this. I don't want to see you dumb people. In a sports game where there's practically nothing happening ever? It was like, so they, after WrestleMania. In a sports game, my bad.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I sound like a real fan. Our sport, wrestling. Sports entertainments. Yeah, like after WrestleMania this year, people were throwing beach balls around, and it was distracting from the matches, and it's like, these people are hurting their, putting irreparable damage on their bodies.
Starting point is 00:27:24 They're shirtless men dancing. And you're throwing a fucking beach ball around. I love the wave. I love beach balls. Look, waves are fine, or the Mexican wave, as it's called, outside of America. I've watched so many. They talk about people doing the wave at wrestling events on wrestling podcasts I listen to. Two of my favorites are, one is OSW Review.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Shout out to the boys in Ireland. And another is Botchamania. But both of those, they're also huge Simpsons fans, all those guys. So maybe they're even listening to this right now. But anyway, they on the show will call it the Mexican Wave. And they're all doing the Mexican Wave. I was like, oh, I guess
Starting point is 00:28:01 outside of the United States. Friendly wave at your... I wonder if it's a soccer thing. Like, they didn't see it until a soccer game in Mexico or something. And maybe that's what popularized it outside of the U.S. But so, anyway. Speaking of Mexico. I love how Homer says, here comes fun.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And then... Speaking of Mexico, one of their most well-known imports to America, I think. Ooh, you brought me a nacho hat! Thanks, Ned. Nacho, nacho man. I want to be a nacho man. God damn it. I had not attended a lot of sports games at this point in my life.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I assumed the nacho hat was real, but a few years later, I was like, this is so impractical. No one could wear this. You could not really eat out of it while it's on your head. I did the stupidest amount of research on the nacho hat. Yeah. Because it's not focused on enough to be just something they – for me, it doesn't – they don't focus on it long enough for it to be something they made up. It seems like this is something you all know exists, right? That's why the song is funny.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I think it's definitely – I believe it's a joke about just the escalation of specialty foods that are. Yeah. That doesn't happen. It's the most basic comic book cartoon food you can imagine. Wieners, burgers, chicken fingers. On a previous episode, like in season two, there was a joke about Homer getting something with triple chocolate when that's a real thing. I feel like they're like, isn't this ridiculous? He's wearing a nacho hat.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I've never seen a nacho hat in real life. I'm sure they made it up. But if you Google it now, a lot of other people have recreated the nacho hat. They're not meant to be worn. You put it on the table and they're like, hey, look, it's a nacho hat. The fries are very hot.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I saw a lovely woman named Kota Froise made her own specialty one, but the difference in hers was it was like salsa in there which clearly in the animation you can see it is cheese. It seems to only be cheese or at the very least it is a very cheesy salsa.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I would not put hot cheese in my head. I'm just trying to picture I would love it if Reddit did the science on this but like any hat made like that where the liquid is in the center, wouldn't it eventually just sag down and go through? And it's like, then the nacho hat's ruined.
Starting point is 00:30:13 And let alone the baking of the chip itself. I don't know what kind of obit that could be. Maybe if you made the inside of the hat out of a tortilla. I'm no queso scientist, but I must say. The real answer is it's a cartoon. Well, Ned is also very nice because you would think with stadium prices, especially if this is an NFL game, something like the nacho hat would cost $75. It would be a big investment.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And at this point, he is still really tolerating Homer. He's not showing the cracks in his friendly facade yet. Well, and then Homer, they also then will have a joke about the giant pile of garbage in front of Homer while he's eating, which that is thousands of dollars of food. It's a fat guy joke, but Ned must be spending that money or something. I don't ever go to popular music or sporting events. I went to WrestleMania and drank my ass off and didn't care about how much I spent.
Starting point is 00:31:00 But as a lark, I went with a friend to a Dolly Parton show. And a bottle of Lagunitas. IPA. $22. Oh my gosh. It was $22 for a five-ounce bottle. I hope you butt-chugged that. That's the best way to get at that alcohol.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Oh, you butt-chugged that shit. You got my support. I did love how Homer had rhythm to his break off, dunk dunk and eat the nacho yeah to the village people yes he is clearly eating out of a nacho hat before and i also like how he holds his tummy while he too like it's very jolly pose i don't know if they were trying to emphasize that but an extravagant gift from his friend nick flanders that was that was probably 50 94 1994 for the food now a compliment i'll give to the animators is that when they have the chant of
Starting point is 00:31:47 Stan, Stan, he's our boy, that the audience is all saying it at the same time. They're like drawing 50 different faces saying it. And when they all take the pause together to think of the next word, I feel like you can see thought in their faces. I mean, they're all moving around and not in unison they're like looking at one another.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I think Merkin tend to punish the animators with lots of crowd scenes and this one I was like just I was feeling for the animators there were so many people moving at once and lots of like great football animation too. Yes. Like very realistic. Having watched Duckman before where you can see the difference between it was nice to be able to
Starting point is 00:32:24 juxtapose 1990s traditional hand-drawn animation cable and network yeah because that whole sequence is something duckman never could have no no i feel like even the name would dan the boy taylor is a joke about sports nicknames yeah because it should be the man stan there's a baseball player stan the man marsh oh i forget the last name and someone correct me whatever you're gonna say i'm Stan the Man. There's a baseball player, Stan the Man Marshall. I forget the last name, and someone correct me. Whatever you're going to say, I'm going to believe you. So then they win. The Adams win. And then Homer lays a big kiss on Ned, which I think is when the cracks start to show right then.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Losers! Losers! Kiss my big Springfield behind Shelbyville I am invincible Invincible Was that the keg? Homer's dead I like how Homer goes Why would they let you bring a keg into a sports game?
Starting point is 00:33:22 I believe that's against regulations Maybe it was one of the concession guys Maybe it was that He the concession guys. Ah, okay. Maybe it was that. He took it off of his back and then threw it. I retract my question. Were they sitting on the visitor's side or something? They were in the front row.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I mean, boy, it didn't say where the stadium was. I thought it was Springfield. I would like to say if you're one of those people who is fortunate enough to meet me in public, this is exactly what happens. I'm Homer to Ned here. I don't ever meet anybody that I like, and I'll talk to you for too long, and I'm way too affectionate.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But Homer even gets the ball of the game ball because Ned is friends with the now-born-again Stan, the boy. I'm led to believe this is important. He's always wanting more. Yeah. That he has been born again and found religion and gives Homer the ball. I think they say they changed the Stitch Face line or it had originally been like ball-y or something.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I like Stitch Face. Stitch Face is great, yeah. It sounds like a mad ball. I'm surprised he correctly counted the number of kids he had. Me too. He always forgets about Maggie. It's just like, we have three children, Homer. All right, the baby and uh the dogs uh then homer is proud to be friends with ned and that's where that's where the opening line of this episode i used what do you say
Starting point is 00:34:37 i don't know something about being gay i just like that that's great uh but so then homer is so ready to ditch his entire family for Ned. He's all aboard the Flanders train, and he even goes to Flanders' house, where Ned has things much better than Homer. Yes. Well, we return to the Ned rumpus room. Yeah. And we get to see it's something that's always made me worry about when playing pool.
Starting point is 00:35:03 It's like, am I leaning over too hard? I don't know. You got to use the bridge, dog. Come on. You don't know your billiards. I don't. I don't. Oh, but also another continuity error.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Uh-oh. When Homer takes down their wedding photo of Marge and Homer, that's not how their wedding was when they got married. Exactly. They weren't dressed that way. They didn't have a big wedding cake, but they just wanted it's funny that homer removes the way we're not shotgun peets come on exactly i did like as someone who grew up in a catholic school going to catholic school i did like the bad uh animation on the very christian cartoon because um i was not on board the catholicism train i was sort of just an agnostic kid and the school was better than
Starting point is 00:35:42 the public schools but i was pushing. But whenever you would see Christian entertainment, there was something off about it. This is a little cheaper. This is a little too preachy. With the exception of McGee and Me. Slight shout out to McGee and Me and, of course, Superbook and Flying House, Japan's Contribution and Christian propaganda. Those don't count. The animation of Davy and Goliath did not stand
Starting point is 00:35:59 up to Gumby. This is how I grew up. My grandmother would buy me all this Christian entertainment. I couldn't... I grew up. My grandmother would buy me all this Christian entertainment and I couldn't... I feel like there was a show about sheep. I couldn't find it.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I tried. Well, the voice is more... David Goliath. Yeah. But I like how... The sin of envy. I like how they're very clearly told the animators in Korea
Starting point is 00:36:19 like, do this bad. That's all well and good for sheep. What are we to do? Only have one mouth movement open and have no in-between when his head goes up and down. And yeah, that Rod and Todd are better than the sheep.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I could do a really fun article about 1990s Christian entertainment and it is way more high budget than you would think. Bible Man? If you've ever heard of the singer Carmen? No, nobody has. But've ever heard of the singer Carmen. No. Nobody has. But he was one of the prominent religious
Starting point is 00:36:47 singers of the 90s. Yeah I know totally about that. The music videos are insane. The Witch's House and stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Devil bought Satan bought the dust. Oh man Carmen's fantastic. Please look up Carmen. It's some of the most insane production values the world doesn't even
Starting point is 00:37:00 know about because they're giving money for people for beliefs. People are willing to fund these things insanely. Wow. I have never of i love superbook and flying house my grandmother bought that superbook i knew yeah i love jesus anime but this is not working audio but i love the smash cut from like you need to meet my family ned and the door to moses slams open also all the jokes about the locked out channels. He's still paying
Starting point is 00:37:26 for them, too. David Merkin is so obsessed with the locking out of TV channels. He got really mad about the V-chip. That was still kind of common in some of the households I was in. Because you couldn't get some of the Christian stations on your regular cable. You needed a satellite dish. That's what I figured.
Starting point is 00:37:41 He had to get that satellite dish to get channel 300, which was the... TBN. Yeah, TBN or whatever. TBN, baby. I just remember, well, it was a couple years after this episode, but we got a special cable box with magical powers. And my parents locked out
Starting point is 00:37:57 Playboy and Spice, but I realized if you unplugged and then plugged back in, I could make... Life hack. I could lock those channels, but I knew the password. Man, you were smart. You were ready for that soft core action. Yeah, non-penetrative sexiness.
Starting point is 00:38:13 That was around the time when Spice was changing their ways. Oh, was it? Did they show the money shot? They never did. Okay, they never did. I'm embarrassed by how much I masturbated to Playboy videos. It seems ridiculous. You had no other options. They're video game loading screens with the occasional tit. What else were you going to watch? E's Wild On?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Yeah, sometimes. Commercials for Girls Gone Wild. The Brook era, not the Tara Reader. But yeah, about the pool table part, when Homer breaks it and says, now you got a lawsuit on your hands. That was a, when I worked at GamePro, anytime we knocked over something or something broke, we would just go, now you've got a lawsuit on your hands.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Would you say the just kidding afterwards? No. Just kidding. I'm shocked Homer did. He must have really liked Flanders. He's trying to be a little nicer. Also, seeing Maude in this episode makes me sad. I'm just like, man, I wish you weren't dead. It's the one episode where I think she's utilized very well.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Because she's not normally. Well, they killed her off partially because they're like, you don't do anything. She's kind of like a skull. They are continuing on the less Tomer has for her from the... Yeah, I love that line about her, but we'll get to it later. But it is, yeah, I think they felt like, well, we've got Maude and
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Starting point is 00:41:58 Here's a taste of what you've been missing. I have never seen it at an Airbnb where you knock on the door and it's just an old couple living here. They will be here the whole time. Wait a minute. Who else is coming here? You've got some bikers coming in tomorrow. Bikers are staying in your son's room. We're staying in your old daughter's room. You'll be here
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Starting point is 00:42:28 You guys feel free to get in the jacuzzi anytime you want. We bought a jacuzzi just for you. Slap your wieners out. No bathing suit required. Get in. We like a nice human lather going. They never said that. I walk in and I had the swinger thought in the back of my mind.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And I just turn and look at the television and It's just like nothing but nudity on the television. Oh my god I went I like sort of like a hustle back to the room Faint slapping in the other room it wasn't because they both cuz they both like I can see the TV in the backs of their heads and they both sort of turn around smile Hello, and I'm looking like nudity great out of here. Don't even look. And I told my girlfriend about it. I don't know if you should go out there. I think they want to do it with us. I have to go to the
Starting point is 00:43:09 fucking bathroom, which I'm sharing with bikers in like hippy-dippy suburbia. And I go back out there and I'm like, yes, that was nudity, but that's just one of those, I've never seen it before, Discovery Channel naked and nude and survival shows. and that's why
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Starting point is 00:43:46 five bucks. You'll help us live, and we'll do our best to help you never be bored again. Laser! Bob mentioned that they headed over to Moe's where Ned sees a familiar face. Hey, everyone. Hi.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I'd like to introduce Ned Flanders, my best friend. Hey, I don't want no people in here with their evils of alcohol rap. Wait a second. You're the man at the hospital who reads to sick children. And truly, she was my friend, Flicka. I hope every book he reads does end with a title. He has a titular line of everything he's reading. We truly were Moby Dick. So in the animation, you can clearly see Moe is saying muffled by your own ass.
Starting point is 00:44:46 He's mouthing ass. And I think they had to pull back on the swearing after a certain point. They had to be selective. But I like this joke. I like the jokes of Moe being secretly nice more so than Moe secretly like has someone imprisoned beneath him. It's clever. Yes. Because we've already seen the surly side of moe
Starting point is 00:45:05 and so why not make him a secret a closeted nice person yes that he loves reading books to people he just can't not and i also love the barney the bar like that's the most low energy barney he represented everyone by the way no one else said shit but so my friend flickicka, it was a 1941 book then made into a 1943 film. In 16 Hallmark movies. Which was about a young boy who he wanted to get into horse raising, but his father, his strict father, felt he wasn't ready for it yet. Stugation. And so there was a wild horse that he wanted to raise,
Starting point is 00:45:43 and he's like, that horse is too wild. And the kid is like, no, I can help him, father, I can. And so they made it into, the 1943 film was the big hit, and the star of it was a young Roddy McDowell. Whoa! Good morning, Flickr. Now listen, Flickr, Dad's coming down to look at you, so be a good girl and don't run away, will you? Well, she does look good. Fine, then. Yes, sir. Cuts are all healed up, except for the one on the right front leg.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Young Cornelius slash Caesar? I know, isn't he? I can't think of him as a child actor. I love that all the times the title is written in that, it's all in caps, so it looks like it says, My Friend Fucka. Damn it. You're right. But the Flicka, they remade it in a gender bent version starring a woman in the lead role right a girl was gonna see the movie well yeah i mean it surprised me when i looked this up i had always just knowing the title of my friend
Starting point is 00:46:36 flicka and thinking like okay it's a horse story these are four girls and it is so clearly it must star a girl in the lead so when you find out like, like, no, it's a boy who wants to raise a horse. I'm actually shocked to know. What a boy. What kind of a name is Flicka anyways? Well, and they got somebody as manly as Roddy McDowell to play him, too. A manly young boy. That's right.
Starting point is 00:46:57 I'm Walker Flicka Flames. In case you ever wonder what my Finn Flicka was, I wish it was public domain because I wanted to see what the last line of the book is, if it is the one Mo said. But I was like, I am not buying a copy. I'm not kindling this. Even for a dollar, I'm not going to do it. Then Homer gets home. I like where he says, like, later sex.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Later sex. And he goes into Ned's house and just steals their food and just gently nibbles. He climbs in the window. It is so rude. This is jerk-ass Homer. First saying, later sex. Just completely ignoring Marge. He's jerk-ass to Marge, but I think he's like,
Starting point is 00:47:34 oh, we're friends. I can just come over. His intent is not to be a jerk with Ned. Climbs in the window. Takes food off of people's plates. He nibbles it like he does on the raft in Boy Scouts in the Hood. Take tiny bites. I also like Homer's reaction to charity.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Homer, I'd love to chitty chat, but tonight's the night I do my charity work. Oh, yeah. Just made me do that once, too. Stupid lack of public urinals. Hey, just so you don't have to suffer alone, I'm coming with you. Oh, well, that sounds super duper. Oh, poor Ned. That music, only hearing it in audio is finally like, oh, that music cue is very important there.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Yeah, it lets you know what Ned is feeling. This is not a good time for him. Also that he's saying just super duper, not like super diddly-duper. Oh, that's true. Yeah, there's no diddly-uper. Oh, that's true. There's no diddly there. And then Homer would think the only reason someone would do charity is if a judge forced them to do it.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It's kind of why I have so much community service experience. So we're going to get to the scene at the Homer shelter, but there's a cut scene that popped up when I was watching this. I saw that too. We do a season end special at the end of every season for Patreon people only. And I think for this one, I want to make it happen, and I will.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I want to go through all the cut scenes in season five, because this is when they start putting the cut scenes on the DVD, every single one. They kept them from season five onward. And there's one great scene in this homeless shelter where Principal Skinner is there for some reason. He's really good. And he's talking about how his mother has a date. And then he's like, what could they be doing at 8pm? Harry Shearer goes hard
Starting point is 00:49:10 on it too. Yes, and he is screaming at the top of his lungs as Skinner. It's great. And I want to revisit all of these cutscenes in our end of the season special. Yeah, and it's great on the DVD you can turn on the deleted scenes and then just the image will appear in the bottom right hand corner and if you press enter or whatever it'll start playing and we in the time it would have appeared
Starting point is 00:49:29 in the episode we did miss one with mr burns in which uh they're dumping champagne on him he's talking about how he's it's getting into his eczema cracks in his skin yeah it's a little gross homer can't take it and he is overdoing it in the charity and throwing out soup everywhere so he's dressed worse and smells worse than the homeless person. Yes. That's a very good weekend about the smell. And Homer is happy to take free clothes from a homeless shelter, which is like that stealing.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I would say like his outfit. That's a pretty cool outfit. I would wear that shirt. I like that seersucker, like crazy loud seersucker outfit too. That's such a great scene. It's my favorite. It's not a good line, but like, let's get you changed.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And puts him in an awful suit in one second. So good. And then there's a paparazzo there. What a scoop. What a scoop. It's like, oh, this is front page material. A big fat man has big fat heart. I love that headline.
Starting point is 00:50:22 That's like the best sub headline ever in one of the Simpsons newspapers, in my opinion. Little thin man accused of murder? Robbery. They didn't go dark as murder. Murder's too harsh. Then Homer is ready for the whole family to hang out. Don't you think you're spending
Starting point is 00:50:39 too much time with Ned? Your family needs you too. Oh, of course you'd say something like that, Marge. You've hated Ned for years. In fact, you wanted to bash his head in with a pipe. I love that line. for me, but she hides it behind a mask of low-key hostility. But we've got to give this thing a chance. I want the two families to take a trip together this weekend. No way, Jose. Yes way. Don't worry, Bart. It seems like every week something odd happens to the Simpsons. My advice
Starting point is 00:51:16 is to ride it out, make an occasional smart-aleck quip, and by next week we'll be back to where we started from, ready for another wacky adventure. Ay caramba! That's the spirit. That's great. So good. I think that's my line of the show. Her explaining the entire meta idea of the show.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah. That's the joke. The sitcom status quo is in jeopardy here, and they're worried. I sitcom people. Ready for another wacky adventure. I carumba 80% of the time is tossed out to just make a joke out of Simpsons Mania. That they used to, he'll say I, Karamba, to be like, I used to say this, remember?
Starting point is 00:51:50 When I was a cool thing. But yeah, Homer's belief that Maude has a crush on him, like that's kind of gross, but in with Homer's inflated sense of self. She hides behind a mask of low-key hostility. I love that line so much. And that Homer's still calling them the Flanderizzes. The Flanderizzes are not geeks.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And it is also Homer, like, borderline cruel, but also just stupid of, like, remembering that Marge tried to kill Ned, not him. Which is, it's like, no, that was you. Love, Marge. Not HST. So he forces him on a trip, and that's when we get another of my favorite lines of this episode. Don't worry. I brought my rep and Ronnie Reagan tape. It always makes the trip go faster.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well. I was so disappointed this didn't have a basis in anything. I looked it up, too. I thought, like, this has to be real. There sort of was a thing. Yeah. I mean, it's based on a semi-real thing. Well, a real thing.
Starting point is 00:53:00 So I did get the clip the gary trudeau of dunesbury fame he did some tv specials in the 80s of political commentary and comedy 88 uh so he did one that he made a rapping a rap master ronnie thing which this is the closest thing to it but he does they don't do the well thing so this but uh here's a little bit of rap master ron. He be trying to make the big box beat. Trying to get those voters on their feet. Get their consent. All I need is 10%. Say we want the guys' pure sex.
Starting point is 00:53:41 He's the man who signs your monthly welfare check. Wow. I listened to that whole thing, and there's a joke like, my son grew up wearing tights, implying that Ron Jr. is gay. There was a lot of Ron Jr.'s gay jokes back then. But he's not gay, right? He is married to a woman. I mean, it doesn't mean he's not gay, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:58 He worked for Playboy. Holy straight men work for Playboy. I gave you a different clip. This is why i believed that someone would have made a novelty record featuring ronald reagan well i do want to say that that he just needs 10 that is a very specific ronald reagan joke that you wouldn't hear now because it was a joke about the 84 election it was about his re-election and how he said like if he could just get 10 of the minority vote vote, he would definitely win, which was much lower.
Starting point is 00:54:27 That's a much higher percent than Donald Trump got. That's why we have the electoral college. Make sure the white Wyoming vote trumps all of ours. Thank God. But, okay, Dave, what is this clip? This is from Back to the Future Part II, and this is Ronald Reagan being done in Max Headroom style, which just I always think of as synonymous.
Starting point is 00:54:43 It was a reference to it. Yeah. Welcome to the Cafe 80s, where it's always morning in America, even in the afternoon and noon. Our special today is mesquite-grilled sushi. You must have the authentic special. You must have the authentic special.
Starting point is 00:55:01 You must have the authentic special. Mesquite-gr grilled sushi. I want an 80s cafe. Why has nobody made that? Because you haven't done it yet. You have to bulldoze George Lucas' Mel's Diners, which are all around the goddamn city. If I was planning a San Diego Comic-Con thing for the next anniversary back in the future,
Starting point is 00:55:22 I would build a pop-up of that. I'd be like, guys, we'd be the biggest hit of Comic-Con if we built that up. I have to mention this and throw everyone under the bus. Oh, no. Another evidence how Simpsons has ruined our lives. I've done a billion podcasts, and whenever we mention Ronald Reagan,
Starting point is 00:55:37 both Dave and Brett, the guy was president for eight years. He did a lot of things. He's the closest thing Republicans have to an icon, and this is all you know about him. I also know Mother. It's the fake Simpsons rap album. Well, I know him for Bedtime for Bonzo.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Of course you do. Well, no, it's actually a very sweet story. When I was born, my mom remembers not a ton of it, but she does remember she was in in bed uh in the hospital watching bedtime for bonzo on tv which is just like ronnie reagan made in the 50s where he befriends a monkey and so whenever when i was a little kid and she'd be like it's instead of saying it's time to go to bed to be like bedtime for bonzo come on my mom says that to this day to me, the dogs. Deeply insulting. I'm a human, mom.
Starting point is 00:56:27 You made me feel special. I related to no A. But I want to point out that Harry Shearer played Reagan on SNL. Oh, all right. This seems sort of based on the whole rap novelty album thing, like Rappin' Rodney and the Where's the Beef rap. Everything had a rap. Laser Time just put up a bad rap song. Duel episode.
Starting point is 00:56:48 When comedians recognize what sampling could do for them. Hey, yo, I'm rappin' here today. And, yeah, something that rhymes with yay. I mean, Rappin' Rodney, he doesn't even rap. He just does comedy bits and then people sing in between that. Did we explore that in two later time episodes i think so yeah though when you hear that reagan thing there you're like wow he sounds a lot like burns like burns his voice that's true and when i think i'm making bad commentary on why
Starting point is 00:57:16 something's funny i'll say he did say well a lot like that that's the most homer that's the biggest amount of satire homer gets from from that. Look at all those idiots. I thought of this rap in Ronnie Reagan tape whenever people were making Breaking Bad memes with the word bitch in it with Jesse Pink. I was like, he did say bitch a lot. I don't think Jesse said bitch. He didn't actually say bitch that much. I feel like in the first season he said it a bit. And as he got more mature in the show and more destroyed by Walter, he played Rage with a light gun.
Starting point is 00:57:49 You can't do that. So, Ned, did you guys catch the name on Ned's boat? Yes. It's very funny. For the first time, thanks for the boat, Lord, too. And I think the joke is one of his boats was destroyed, but he's still thankful. Like, thanks for the other boat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:03 It's Ned's second boat. It's true. All right. He reinforced his boat, and that's still thankful. Like, thanks for the other boat. It's Ned's second boat. That's true. All right. And he reinforced this boat, and that's why it survived that landfall. And he's, yeah, God, the twitch on his face. If I get a boat, it's going to be called Rappin' Ronnie. Rappin' Ronnie Reagan. The twitch on his face when Homer scratches his boat like that.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Just like, oh, God. Like, just, he can't take it anymore. And then I like that they at least came up with a good reason for Marge and Lisa to also be mad at the Flanders. I hope the children enjoy my special fruit punch. We got the recipe from the fruit punch advisory board. Oh, gosh, I'm sorry. Our boys don't eat sugar. But why would the advisory board give us bad advice?
Starting point is 00:58:40 No sugar. Thank you, but we're not allowed. Aw, it's okay. There's no sugar in pixie sticks. Trust me. Okay. Don't hug it off, smelly head. Go to hell, sick face.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Give me that sugar cane. Give me that. So I hate to be the spoil sport here, but sugar actually doesn't make kids go crazy. No, it doesn't. In fact, there's... It makes them fatter, I'd say. In one of the many Cornholio episodes of Beavis and Butthead, they make a comment, like, their hippie teacher's like, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I just read a study that says sugar doesn't cause hyperactivity in people. Like, they comment on it because a lot of people were probably writing them letters. That's right. It doesn't? No, it doesn't. Caffeine? I mean, sugar alone doesn't make kids freak out it helps it i mean i'm sure it gives them more energy to continue being active but
Starting point is 00:59:31 it's not like they're snorting cocaine as we're seeing here this is another drug reference i think given that their diet is exclusively cucumbers with cream cheese on it like i think any foreign object would probably get them is there some joke I'm missing about the Fruit Punch Advisory Board? Because I love it, and I'm not sure why. It's like a self-serving thing made to sell fruit punch to people. Oh, like the NRA. Yes. Well, I think of that as a very Oakley and Weinstein type joke.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I just like the idea that Marge is so boring that she's like, well, how would I know how to make this recipe? I would bet the Pork Council has some ideas. Miss Kool-Aid Man told me. It's like when you buy a box of Rice Krispies and the recipe's right on there. Exactly. Or like a box of Triscuits. I'm just going to eat the Triscuits themselves. I'm not going to
Starting point is 01:00:16 make these mini pizzas. Come on. These Ritz crackers are nice enough on their own. I don't need it. I had to double check this, but they really like... I'm going to replay this again. Let me get to the clip here. They sound like Huey, Dewey, and Louie. Now you know why.
Starting point is 01:00:32 If only it was Roosie Taylor doing their voices and not Nancy Cartwright. No, so yeah, Rod and Todd are Nancy and Pamela Hayden. That's right. And Pamela Hayden is not, hasn't done duck voices. Roosie Taylor, though, was all three of them on DuckTales. Just that that was so the DuckTales voice of them. I wonder, Bob, if there might be some secret ADR in there by Lucy Taylor instead of Pamela Hayden. They sound expensive.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Or if Pamela Hayden doing just anybody who's doing a kid's voice that then has to get growling. Like a strained kid's voice. Yeah, maybe that's just her duck voice if she has to get like a strained kid's voice yeah maybe that's just her duck voice if she were to be asked to do it i don't know not anymore you got to be an snl or community alum to do that when they do the throwing of the the food fight i i like that the flanders just like they're not fighting back they're like they're just confused they turn the other cheek yeah physically though i when i originally saw this way back in the day i thought like are rod and todd still not on their sugar high like wouldn't they want to do that like they're physically hurt. When I originally saw this way back in the day, I thought, are Rod and Todd still not on their sugar high? Wouldn't they want to do that?
Starting point is 01:01:29 They came down. Just go to hell's a case. That's true. I guess they must have come down, but that's true. But Homer destroying Ned's car and his boat, presumably. I'm watching a lot of these with nice headphones on, and you really hear how destroyed his car gets. And his car is just obliterated. His car's totaled.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And what did Homer jump off of to land the car in the middle of the boat? Sorry, land the boat on top of the car in the middle of the lot like that. Yeah, and that Homer could have killed someone easily, killed Ned easily. A foot of difference, he would have crushed Ned, not his car. Or Rotter Todd. If only it had landed on Dr. Hibbert's car he wouldn't have to worry about that rusty tailgate anymore. I do love that
Starting point is 01:02:07 throw of the cheers to this rusty tailgate. It's a TV Guide thing. And Homer doesn't even apologize. Okay cheers and cheers I want to get into this. At one point before again, before the internet even before the TV Guide channel
Starting point is 01:02:24 that would tell you when things would be on next, if you weren't obsessive about television and what episodes are going to air when, you read TV Guide. And I did, and I loved the Cheers and Jeers section. Me too. The weekly section of saying, cheers, this thing in the TV was good this week. Cheers to this thing wasn't good this week. Cheers to that Empty Nest spinoff. As a fake Simpsons fan who didn't start taping the show until, like, season four, to get those, like, first three seasons worth of episodes,
Starting point is 01:02:51 I would have to check TV Guide and find my local syndication listings. Is this an episode that I've seen before or that I have on tape? No, I've got to stay home and tape it. We use the free TV Guide in the newspaper. Yeah, me too. And according to an the free TV Guide in the newspaper. Yeah, me too. I lied. And according to an article from TV Guide, the first ever mention of The Simpsons in TV Guide was in Cheers and Jeers.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Oh, wow. Did it get a cheer or a cheer? July 10th, 1989. Cheers to The Simpsons, the cartoon clan on Fox's Tracy Ullman show. Oddball syndicated cartoonist Matt, life and hell grating, has created a very striking turbulent sitcom family in the animated vignettes that air between
Starting point is 01:03:31 Ullman's skits. The war amongst the Simpsons will be expanding as Fox is planning on spinning off Grating's cartoon into a series of its own. That's a top drawer idea. Wow. Are we hot? We are not. We are not.
Starting point is 01:03:45 We are not. So there you go. That is Cheers and Jeers' connection to The Simpsons there. Then let's go to the dark side of public massacres. I have a lot to say about this. I do, too. That track is insane. Bob, what did you... Okay, so Ned has a dream where he's killing people and shooting at them from a bell tower.
Starting point is 01:04:08 That's Homer. That's also Homer. But first it starts off with the same Vertigo parody from the Skinner Selma episode. Principal Charming, yeah. Yeah, the going up the stairs is very Vertigo-y. And he's whistling Bringing in the Sheaves, a Christian song. But it's very chilling in how specific it is of shooting from a bell tower down at people in like a park and there's a reason for that right yes so I listened to an entire
Starting point is 01:04:28 podcast about this because I'm a creep this was the first really notable spree killing in American history was a 1966 University of Texas tower shooting so this dude named Charles Whitman no this is in Austin in 1966 not a lot of people died in the Kent State shootings
Starting point is 01:04:44 I think that was it but I'll go on come on I mean Yeah, this is in Austin in 1966. Not a lot of people died in the Kent State shootings. Three. I think that was it, but I'll go on. Yeah, come on. I mean, so Charles Whitman is the guy who killed people. He was fresh out of the Killbot factory. He was a Marine sharpshooter. To go to the end of the story, there was a tumor in his brain that made him insane. Oh.
Starting point is 01:05:01 But he was seeing counselors. I have these violent impulses. I don't know what to do. And one day he's like, well, I have to and i'm gonna kill my mother and my wife because they can't live with the shame of me killing people and there was no like we see a lot of agendas with spree killers like you were mean to me or this is for the white race he was just like no i have to kill people it's what i have to do and then i'm going to die so he basically goes up to the observation deck of the main tower in the university of tex, and he's murdering people from like a quarter of a mile away. With a sniper rifle as he was trained to do.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So no one can see where it's coming from. Yes, and it's basically like one hit. It's like I shoot people once and they fall and then I move on to the next person. So by the end of his spree, he hurts 31 people, kills 15. The police storm the tower and eventually kill him. But he was killing people on the way up the tower. And again, this guy was just a guy who had a tumor in his brain. And just one day he was like, I have to kill people.
Starting point is 01:05:50 This is my mission in life. And I'm going to eventually die doing this. And it was back when it was surprising to hear about a massacre. Yeah. Your heart, like this was a shock to the nation. And it inspired so much in pop culture. And actually, a shorter version of the story of Charles Whitman is in full metal jacket.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I knew I recognized it. Do any of you people know who Charles Whitman was? None of you dumbasses know. Private Cowboy. Sir, he was that guy who shot all those people from that tower in Austin, Texas, sir. That's affirmative. Charles Whitman killed 12 people from a 28 story observation tower at the university of texas from distances
Starting point is 01:06:31 of up to 400 yards wow yeah love you sergeant hartman never die early army the joke that ends this uh this dream that that has is a postal worker fires back at net with a gun and i want to talk about that because that That's an equally dated thing. I'm watching it with my girlfriend, the daughter of a only ever been postal worker. Part of the postal worker community, and they hate that shit. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:06:57 There's a documentary about the postal worker spree killings. And what happened was, at some point in history, around the late 70s, early 80s, the post office as a company became much more corporate. It's just like, we need to treat our workers like trash. We need to be profitable. I don't think the post office should be profitable. It's a miracle
Starting point is 01:07:14 that we have a postal system that works. It's one of the two businesses owned by the United States government. Yeah, and it's like, they basically were turning people into computers. It's like, all you're going to do is look at a machine all day, and it spits out numbers, and you pull a lever, you push a button. That's all you do.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And it was making people insane. And that's what happened. I mean, this is what drove a lot of people to kill their coworkers at the post office. We talked about it in the strike episode that Nixon had to – he passed something that allowed postal workers to demonstrate for better conditions. I feel like the postal service workers who did these killings, they're not the mail delivery guys. Those guys have it nice.
Starting point is 01:07:49 They get to walk outside all day, wear shorts every day of the year. That's my girlfriend's dad's job to walk around the richest neighborhood ever. He loves his life. That's how he survived the 90s, man. It takes me 10 minutes
Starting point is 01:08:00 to get to every one of these rich assholes' doorsteps. It's awesome. Don't dogs bite their butts every day? If you watch the documentary, I think it's called Going Postal or Postal or something like that. You can find it on YouTube. It's a UABO film. It's great.
Starting point is 01:08:10 But that's the thing. It was a much more innocent time where two or three shootings involving postal people. Inspired a million jokes. But it created a verb. Postal. Going Postal. Going Postal. It created a game series and a UABO movie. But now we have three shootings a verb. Yeah. Postal. Going postal, yeah. Going postal. It created a game series and a Super Bowl movie
Starting point is 01:08:25 and like, but now we have three shootings a day. Yeah, we, it's just, there's so many things like, oh, more than four people died.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Should be called. Yeah, it's like if you look at Sandy Hook or the Pulse nightclub. It's Pulse Flex. Pulse Flex. Yeah, those never happened. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:38 It's an excuse to take our guns away. Am I right? Yeah, but. Comment away, fuck faces. I like in the, I like in the dream that ned doesn't kill anybody too it would have been a dark that's a little too much it's still really dark oh it is
Starting point is 01:08:51 it's a fantasy sequence about a real mass shooting yeah and that which by the way should just be called going american yeah i mean charles whitman too he brought several guns like food and water and supplies he's like i'm staying up here until someone kills me i'm gonna kill as many people as possible yeah well it's pretty similar but and i like the idea of two different two different parodies of mass murderers fighting each other in his dream like who will win the postal service guy versus the sniper i'm back around and that uh also there was if you want to look it, there was a 1975 TV movie adaptation of this starring Kurt Russell in the role of Whitman, except they call him Ramirez to get around any legal trouble.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And Ned Beatty is one of the cops trying to stop him. Kurt Russell's playing an Hispanic man? Is that what you're saying? So it was in 1975. It definitely feels like one of those things where Kurt Russell's like, I'm not Disney anymore. I'm a murderer. I'm going to play the most cold-blooded murderer in American history.
Starting point is 01:09:47 A sniper wore tennis shoes. If he were to die tomorrow, he'd be bookended by Disney. And there's also a 2016 documentary. I think it's just called Tower. And they talk with the survivors. I hear it's very moving and good. So I need to watch that. But this is a very notable one of the first major American spree killings before they happened weekly.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And it's funny that they would make this crazy post office joke. And then five years later, the Simpsons will have a joke. Or six years later, Simpsons will have a joke that the crazy postman went out with the Macarena. So even they think it's a lame old joke by then. Then Homer dreams he hates Ted Koppel. Ted Koppel is informative and witty. I like him too. Never experienced him. Though later, Rock Bottom
Starting point is 01:10:32 will reveal that Ted Koppel is a robot. If you've never heard of Ted Koppel, you were probably born during the reign of Kimmel. That's true. Jimmy Kimmel. Kimmel replaced him. Alright, then we get the creation of one of the best memes on the internet. Off the rim!
Starting point is 01:10:48 Oh, almost! Boy, that was close. Hey, what's up for today, Nettie? Ah, Homer, we're going to visit the boy's grandmother. Family only, you know? Right, no reporters. No, I mean just the Flanders family. Oh,
Starting point is 01:11:06 okay. Oh, boy! Grandma! We're not going anywhere. But you said... Sometimes to keep from hurting someone's feelings, we have to say things that aren't exactly... Lies make baby Jesus cry.
Starting point is 01:11:23 That's so cute. They cut him off. Between that uh good night uncle homer like rod and todd are kind of adorable they're pretty cute but then homer so homer coming out of and then going back into the hedge is so creepy a terminator 2 parody right well no no the terminator 2 parody is the next i thought this was a terminator 2 parody, right? No, no. The Terminator 2 parody is the next. I thought this was a Terminator 2 parody as well. I mean, it could also be. Okay, it is like coming through stuff. You're right. You're right. He is T-1000 in both these scenes back to back.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I mean, what else could it be? But just the animation of him, his nose. Nose coming in last. It's so great. I don't love a lot of Simpsons shirts, but the stark green one just with Homer's face emerging from a hedge. Yeah, I mean, when he goes to the hedge, his are like dead he just like blank stare okay become a meme i remember when i first saw it working at capcom box copy of street fighter cross tech and homer backing it is homer
Starting point is 01:12:17 backing into things is the is the meme now i'm just saying like this new game came out this new movie came out i bought a bunch of donuts all these things it's just backing into it just like you're being consumed by it i've seen it used mostly like i'm stepping out of this conversation or i want nothing to do with this well if you don't change the grass into something else then yes it's really just like literally green screen yeah and uh this it was the big hot meme before spongebob positioned like a chicken yeah spongebob caveman but then i didn't get the sound for it because it's it's mostly just a sell an action visual scene but the chase the t2 chase is amazing very well done yeah but for it to
Starting point is 01:13:00 work homer has to be holding this so stupid he like, he is trying to kill the people in this car who are driving away from him. Running with the golf clubs is so great, yeah. And that Homer, who is completely out of shape, is able to just run as fast as a car with no exertion on his face at all. And he falls off the car without getting hurt. He really wants to play the picture. But like the T-1000, he rolls over. I've seen that movie so many times at this point. But I love that this is one of those, I didn't get the Vertigo reference watching this on TV for the first time.
Starting point is 01:13:29 But I fucking got the T-2 reference. It was one I got as a kid, too. So what happens to Ned's car? I confuse this with Garbage Island a lot. That's Homer escaping from Ned. Yeah, that's Homer escaping from Ned. That Homer crashes his car into the garbage dump. And that Ned just stops stops short of it.
Starting point is 01:13:45 So his car was fine there. I just watch this, but I always forget what happens in Ned's car. No, I mean, it's a Gio. That's always made me think like, oh, I guess Gio's a crappy car. I suppose they're still around. Wow. I thought they died in the mid 90s with Saturn. Well, I remember in seasons to come, I forget.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I'm so sad I forget the episode. I think it's Viva Ned Flanders. He's driving still in the GEO. They basically have him make a wind-up car noise when he's driving around. They do sound hilarious. My friend had one. They're very much into making fun of American craftsmanship in this episode and throughout the season, I think. One of those American robot cars.
Starting point is 01:14:22 It was an American car meant to look like a foreign car. Like a Fiat. A Chevrolet making a smaller car. You wouldn't betray your country by buying a foreign car. Your country will betray you by moving the factory out of the country. Also in my memories, I think of Homer smashing out the back window, but that's just because it's in Terminator 2. It's such a good sequence.
Starting point is 01:14:45 At the end of the movie, rules. But when Ned gets pulled over, the putters are stuck in his car, which they shouldn't be because Homer rolls away with them. So another glaring issue of the animation here. That Wes Archer, he messed it up, his director. But then comes a great scene of
Starting point is 01:15:02 Wiggum being the total horrible cop he always is i told you officer i'm not hepped up on goofballs yeah right ned flanders i never would have imagined it's a church bus Isaac Hyde, everybody! Goofballs! Goofballs! Where's your Messiah now, Flanders? The second outright acknowledgement of the basis of Wiggum.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Edward G. Robinson, but this confused the shitter to me for years. I saw you found the same thing I did. I only learned the truth of this yesterday. Yeah, me too. But, well, first off, that goofballs thing. I just love how cruel Wiggum is. Like, Isaac Hyde, everybody. Goofballs. Shame the addict.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Shame him. You've got to imagine he's arrested dozens of people thinking they're on goofballs when he arrests no one for drunk driving ever. That's a nice drunk driving, Mr. B. Two quick asides about this. One, that Ned wouldn't know that there's a church trip that he's not invited to. That's a nice record to try, Mr. B. Two quick asides about this. One, that Ned wouldn't know that there's a church trip that he's not invited to. That's true. And two, I could have sworn that Superintendent Chalmers is one of the people on that bus.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I think he is. That looks just like him. No, it's a bald guy. I've seen him in the stock characters, but he's not exactly Super Nintendo. What an odd remark. But okay, so that line, Edward G. Robinson. It's confusing. It makes you think that Edward G. Robinson is in the film The Ten Commandments.
Starting point is 01:16:30 He does not say that line in it, though. I've never seen the movie that Edward G. Robinson coined that voice. I think we played it a while back when Quimby first acknowledged the basis of his character. But Soylent Green is the one I've seen over and over again. He doesn't sound anything like that. But Edward G. Robson was a fish-faced dude. He was. He played authority figures.
Starting point is 01:16:50 He's great. I thought it was from the SNL sketch when the early 90s, when fucking Charlton Heston for some reason hosted SNL. I don't think he was promoting anything. How we use electricity can be smarter, cleaner and greener. At Electric Ireland, we can help guide you there. You see, our new Net Zero Hub has all you need to know about smart meter plans, EV tariffs, solar panels and much more. Making your usage clearer, your trips greener, your home cozier, and your world brighter.
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Starting point is 01:18:01 Ten Commandments sketch, Rob Schneider played Edward G. Robinson's character and played it full on. Yeah, Moses, amen. I think, I don't know, like, the intent of this, is this Mandela effect where it's like, oh, yeah, he did say that. Are they referencing a comedy bit? No, no, it is a comedy bit. I know, but my question is, are they thinking he actually said that in the movie because they don't have the ability to pull it up on the internet instantly? I think then it could have been a Mandela effect thing. It could have even been. It doesn't make sense as a simpsons joke it really
Starting point is 01:18:27 doesn't i wouldn't be shocked if hank azaria just made it up in the booth as an ad lib yeah it could it does seem like that it even has a little beat in between well especially because hank azaria is such i have this on vinyl behind you wow get a gift for grim that he rejected uh uh one of those things really kind of that's funny I'm not taking this one. But so, yes, this specific line, where's your Messiah now, see, that is from the 1985 Billy Crystal stand-up album, Marvelous.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Yeah, it's actually, it is here, Chris. I just saw it, yeah. I have it run vinyl, Billy Crystal and Blackface. It was a different time in 1985. It's never not funny, man. You have the wrestling album and other weird things, but you won't put the Billy Crystal album amongst your
Starting point is 01:19:11 records. Grimm's supposed to take it. I'll never be hearing it again. Okay, so here's the original bit they're referencing. Oh, it's a biblical spectacular, but it's funny because there were actors in that movie who should never do biblical films. Edward G. Robinson? Where's your Messiah now? Yeah, where's the Moses now, Shane?
Starting point is 01:19:32 Let my people go now. Which he doesn't do in the film, and I remember my dad having to explain why he was losing his shit at Rob Schneider in the SNL sketch. I would guess that the Simpsons writers are big enough nerds that they would pay homage to Billy Crystal by doing this.
Starting point is 01:19:49 I just think they haven't really referenced other jokes from other comedians. Yeah, that's what makes me wonder if they thought that was the line. Yeah, I like the Mandela effect. But we'll never know, so there's no point in just endlessly... It could be Mandela effect, or it could be Hank Azaria just goofed around In the thing and they kept it I think it's just so hard for us to believe That someone is a sincere fan of Billy Crystal That's true
Starting point is 01:20:10 I'd more believe the Mandela effect So now Ned is shamed He goes to the church What Ned did I love that I love the He must have been the Ben he's the one who rode Homer all over the bathroom I love the, he must have been the, no wait, how'd it go?
Starting point is 01:20:28 Ben, he's the one who rode Homer all over the bathroom. It's so quiet and it's so fast. But it implies so much history in there. Just the acoustics of the church with the hushed like, I found one. But it's weird that they've all embraced Homer so much, they just completely forgot it. Even when he screams kick ass in the in the place some kick ass seats yeah and uh but it's when ned has finally been pushed too far before i get started on today's sermon entitled what ned did i'd like to publicly congratulate homer simpson on his recent charity work look look I live to give.
Starting point is 01:21:07 That's beautiful. We appreciate the kisses. Now let us bow our heads in a silent prayer of thanksgiving. stop it breathe through your damn mouth oh can't you see this man isn't a hero he's annoying he's very very annoying we'd see a lot more of this out of ned and hurricane netty season eight i wonder if this inspired Hurricane Neddy. Yeah. They saw how fun it was for Ned to
Starting point is 01:21:48 finally break and tell off somebody. They then make a whole episode about that. The sequence of the close-up on the nose is one of the most beautifully orchestrated His nose just vibrating. Well, then it only goes inclined up when he's breathing in, and then when breathing out then his nose wiggles up and down.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And that noise is Harry She shearer's nose like his whistling nose is revealed on the comment it's how i sound when i'm sleeping like tony soprano so the one the one thing i missed in this in this episode until now because i think it's not communicated that well visually is when when abe says let's sacrifice him to our god um revel in Lovejoy is coming up behind Ned with his arms out. Ned is about to die, and no one has to stop them. I read that as he's going to escort Ned out. I feel like they're listening to Grant, because they are a crazy mob who will turn on a dime at any suggestion of violence. It seems like they're out to kill him. And then we get basically a minute straight of just like treacly, or like, treacly, that's too, that's a little mean, but just, it's just all very heartfelt.
Starting point is 01:22:49 It is Homer saving Ned and them becoming friends again. I mean, there's a little bit of a sentence in Baked In. It was like, sure, I've gotten mad at Ned, you know. You wanted to lash out at him. Maybe even as good as me. But my line of the show is not actually captured. It's, hey, that guy's right. He's talking about Reppling Lovejoy. It's, hey, that guy's right. He's talking about Reverend Lovejoy.
Starting point is 01:23:07 It's such an unneeded, they need somebody to say they were convinced by Homer. No, he's talking about Reverend Lovejoy. Oh, that's right. Then he goes, Reverend Lovejoy, that guy. That guy's right. That guy had it written down as Reverend James Helter. Oh, right. Helter Shelter.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Sorry, yes. That was a good bit. So, it seems that it's the end of their wacky adventures. I don't get it, Lise. You said everything would be back to normal, but Homer and Flanders are still friends. Yeah, maybe this means the end of our wacky adventures. Guess what, everyone? My great-uncle Boris died and left us his old country house
Starting point is 01:23:48 There's only one catch They say it's haunted But I'm sure we can prove him wrong by spending the weekend there Hi, diddly-ho, neighbor Get lost, Flanders Okaleedokalee See, I told you there's nothing to worry about this place isn't it's it's weird because that was very close to being a biting joke given when this aired
Starting point is 01:24:20 because that was still a pretty traditional plot and while i can't pinpoint it to anything in particular, it goes to Mr. Chicken. Well, I mean, I feel like you wouldn't see that. You'd maybe see that plot on TGIF, but it wasn't seen in a good plot. No, no, it wasn't. But you wouldn't see that plot now,
Starting point is 01:24:36 but in the current state of television in 1994. It was shitting on a common premise happening at the time. The idea of being forced to stay in a haunted mansion, you would see it now as a parody of it, or like Rick and Morty would do it, I'm sure, but it would be with a ton of winking or recognizing like, yeah, this is dumb, this has been in everything. And in season 7's Bart the
Starting point is 01:24:56 Fink, the episode would open with them spending the night in a haunted house, although it was perfectly fine, they slept very well. And they each got $100 for it. Yeah, and the guy was fucking with them the entire time. The water tastes better here than in our house. I do love when the closing note of a Simpsons episode is completely opposite of what the entire episode was. I forget which episode it is, but where Jasper wants to date Abe at the end and the heart comes in at the end.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Yeah, and that they also have the time zone. It'll be Thursday at 8. It was the exact time slot. Thursday at 8 was so important to me at the time. But the history of The Simpsons is such a short-lived time slot. It's like three or four years on Thursday. But that was another middle finger to continuity of just like, look, it will revert. And we won't explain it, but it's just going to be back to normal. It's the rules of TV.
Starting point is 01:25:43 We have to follow them. It probably is the last year there, Thursday, because we're just bumping in on must-see TV with Friends and Seinfeld. Do you want to get away from that, Jogger Nut? I don't know. I think it's like season seven when they go to Sunday. Usually the 8 p.m. slot is not. You know what? No, season six is definitely Sunday.
Starting point is 01:26:02 I remember watching Who Shot Mr. Burns on a Sunday. It was the friend slot. It might have been friends that finally killed it, but Seinfeld wasn't helping. They moved to Thursday to destroy Cosby, and they did. And they did. Thank God. Somebody finally took him down. No, he's still out there.
Starting point is 01:26:19 He's still prowling. You better catch me! He's annoying. He's very, very annoying. I have other jokes I could say now, but I'm not going to. Put in your face in the room. I don't like his shirts. His sweaters are tacky. His sweaters are tacky.
Starting point is 01:26:33 But I like his sweaters. But anyway, I like that episode. You wouldn't think it was written by a freelancer also because they heavily rewrite those. Yeah, yeah. But it is a very great episode. It's amazing it's a great episode i wish homer wasn't so mean jerk ass homer is not my favorite yeah but it's it's odd to think about the obsession because it's not like he wants to be friend he's obsessed with
Starting point is 01:26:54 flanders yes yeah he's possessed with flanders doesn't care that he destroys ned's life like not even a little but good cartoon logic i. I love it. Yeah, like, this and the episode previous, both of them, like, stretch the continuity and the believability of the Simpsons universe in crazy ways. Like, he goes to space one week, doesn't come up again, he becomes friends with Flanders,
Starting point is 01:27:19 and they even say, we're going to disregard this next week. I can see why some people, like, were starting to be like, I'm kind of getting angry at this it's real captain i can't imagine this like juxtapose those two weeks together like you go to space and then like and then he makes a friend yeah they had some reruns in between it was like almost a month between episodes uh between the last one and this one so uh happy saint patrick's day by the time to calm down but yeah i mean i feel like when Flanders failed
Starting point is 01:27:45 was the last Flanders focused episode of The Simpsons almost two and a half years before this and he would show up but this was like an episode about Flanders his name is in the title and I like the focus on Flanders it's about time damn it this was a really good episode so thank you so much for listening
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Starting point is 01:29:40 whenever we see something negative about when someone yells at us on Talking Simpsons about how dare you politically blah blah blah i'm like the only thing we own that you might not own are the simpsons dvds there's nothing stopping you from doing this research and doing this show on your own the only thing that makes it interesting is who we are and i take that attitude over to 30 2010 we're talking about 30 20 and 10 years ago in the past, so it's our experiences. You will have had different experiences, and I love having a show that's all about
Starting point is 01:30:09 everybody else's unique experience that I couldn't possibly have had. I love seeing that in the comments on Talking Simpsons 2, people talking about where they were when that episode aired. In the first show, there's a mind-blowing Chipmunk Adventure trivia tease that I had no idea happened. People will talk about working at a movie theater
Starting point is 01:30:27 when Austin Powers opens and being forced to dress like him. Oh, my Lord. Yes, it's a fun, fun show. Patreon.com slash LazerTime. Anything else there, Dave? Yeah, we have at least two movie commentaries every month. I believe we're probably here a hundred at this point. We'll have done Spaceballs this month
Starting point is 01:30:42 and A Choice by the Community, which is looking a lot like Batman and Robin. Very excited. And yeah, we also have lots of cartoon commentaries there. I believe we did Darky Wink Duck a couple weeks ago. Wrestling commentaries where we'll be talking about Christopher. There's the
Starting point is 01:30:58 Mothership, Laser Time itself. We just did an episode about farts, which you know, maybe you might not be a fan of. There's some Simpsons talking. There is one. And I think upcoming we have an episode about sketch comedy, but I don't think anyone who listens to the show will care about that. They don't like comedy. Thanks for listening. We'll be back next week with
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