Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Homer Vs Patty And Selma

Episode Date: November 22, 2017

After blowing all his money on pumpkins, Homer is in desperate need to save his family and dear Rat Boy. So he turns to Patty and Selma for help, which somehow also involves Mel Brooks. Meanwhile, Bart does ballet in a plot that's wholly separate from Homer's problems, but is fun all the same on this week's podcast!

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chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who else is here with me today? Henry Gilbert, and I'm both a fairy and a queen. Oh. And who else? Senior Wentz's reference, Chris Antisto. Oh, it's all right. It's all right.

Took my Rat Boy. And today's episode is Homer versus Patty and Selma. And who could forget dear Rat Boy? And today's episode aired on February 26, 1995. And as always, Chris will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh my God! Stop a glass, Bobby, because it's time to wish congratulations to Motley Crue drummer Tommy Lee and Baywatch star Pamela Anderson, who have just tied the knot and are meant to be.

The What a Cartoon Show launches on Cartoon Network with a short pilot for what would eventually become Dexter's Laboratory. It's first spinoff. And Toshiba, Time Warner, Sony, and Philips and all the giant media companies have settled on the preferred nomenclature for their super-density multimedia compact disc, the DVD. Oh, wow. The digital versatile disc. Digitally versatile disc. I forgot the DVD consortium. I forgot that. The digital versatile disc. I forgot the DVD consortium. That was a great

name there. Multiple corporate giants trying to come up with a CD that played movies and they had to settle on a name in early 1995. Why would the DVD consortium lie to us? But good old Tommy Lee and Pam Anderson within days of this I saw a video of the wedding. They're going to make a video.

They're going to make quite a famous video. Like, his cock is crazy. It's all right. It's all right. No, come on. That's like at least 10 inches. It's insanity, bro. And I remember he has, he's transfixed by it.

He has mayhem right above on his stomach. So if you were to, say, be like you're you're seeing mayhem yeah it looks like a mission test it looks like a like a mexican mural eulogy every time you're getting blown and itself it's it's also we're going to talk a lot about mr show this episode actually but yeah we are the mr show show me your weenus joke that was a parody of their sex look at my heart which people talked about the joke was if was, even though it is a man and a woman, it sounds like two gay guys talking about it. That's right. They show me your weenies.

And wait, what was the middle one on that news thing between DVD and the Tommy Lee? Cartoon Network. So what a cartoon show. If you want to hear us talk about Dexter and Genny Tartakovsky, we talk a bit with Ian Jones-Courtey in our interview. It's bizarre to think about that. I don't think it's the first original Cartoon Network show. Two Stupid Dogs, sort of. Yeah, but it was aired on TNT as well.

But this is essentially a pilot program. It really was. It was secretly a pilot program. And Dexter was a great... That should have been the first one. Powerpuff Girls, maybe. Before that short aired, they knew Dexter's laboratory would be their first oh yeah it was easily the strongest of them and ian jones courtier interview made a great point about he called he had a term for it

he called it hannah barb anime which he said it was like you get the action and fluid movement of anime but with the flat character designs of Hanna-Barbera, and they somehow work together. And Seth MacFarlane's sort of prototype for Family Guy aired on the What a Cartoon Show. I forget what it's called, but it's basically Peter and Ryan. It's a regular schlub and a talking dog. Yes, and one is really stupid, and one is very smart. And they have a Star Wars reference,

and a woman gets beat up. It's all the funny things. So, when I say Mr. Show, that's because this episode is the first episode by Brent Forrester. Yes. Who would go on to be a writer for Mr. Show and also the American Office. Arrested Development. And Arrested Development.

But his most famous scripts from the show, which some he did with Dino Stamatopoulos, were The Audition and Pre-Taped College. Can I use this chair, Henry? Can I use this chair? No, seriously. Can I use this chair, Henry? Can I use this chair? No, seriously. Can I use this chair? Yes. Oh, come on. Wonderful.

A pre-taped call-in show is one I... It's on our YouTube channel for some reason. The audition one, which we were pretending to do, is very funny as well. They're both very funny. But this does have the feel, this episode has the feel of a first-time writer to The Simpsons. It's kind of a stock episode writer to the simpsons it's kind of a kind of a stock episode it feels a little half-baked and after an episode where the simpsons were the entire town of springfield is about to go up in smoke then there's an episode

where homer and crusty become cartoon clowns together and then they fly to australia this very domestic episode where they barely go anywhere and it's just about not liking your sisters-in-law. It's very small. Yeah, and I feel like the Simpsons writing process is they would go on a retreat every year, come up with strong ideas, and then put them all on a big board. I have a feeling these are the remaining ideas on a board at some point. Okay, Homer vs. Paddy and Selma, Bart, ballet, and also Mo Brooks. Yeah, and also, as Oakley has told us, the new writers

get the Marge episodes. This isn't exactly a Marge episode, but Patty and Selma are Marge-adjacents. That is my takeaway. One, I think the Simpsons have the worst episode titles

in the universe, so please, just stick with Simpsons vs. plot. Yeah, I agree. And Julie Kavner doesn't have a time to comedically shine

very well unless an episode is focused on Patty and Selma. Yeah. She is great and hilarious. I love these two characters. Me too. They get less use in the Mercan era, and they're not really used as much as I want them to be in this episode, but I love them in these plots. Yeah.

Although I think Dan feels a little less to me in this episode. I don't know. It didn't sound like he was trying this hard also a thing i noticed this episode directed by mark kirkland the animation also feels like the b team as well like it's lesser animation it's not not as fluid and there's a little dancing stuff is very very good that was very good yeah but and there's a little thing that i couldn't not notice afterwards of like their lips there's like a weird curve on the lips every time they talk they're like it's not in the stock animation for other ones i'll have to go back to that i wonder if this was given to a b team there or not which uh i but i was just thinking of animation b teams

because i read the hollywood reporter of this amazing oral history of the x-men cartoon show which basically pointed out like the reason it looked like dog shit is because saban entertainment didn't want to spend an extra penny on it that they had to we actually have an article in laser time podcast.com that shows you the original pilot how awful it looked and they had to redo it for syndication even though they didn't even want to spend that much money on it there's also a story in there that the show was a huge success immediately, and then Haim Saban immediately cut $500 off the pay of every writer. Wow. Because he said, hey, if it's a big hit, you get all the name recognition from working on a hit, so I'll just pay you less.

Man, what a slime. Yeah. So I like a lot of jokes in this episode, but I feel like what hurts it is that it uses a stock sitcom plot without subverting it in any way. The whole, you're going to be my slave, you know, plot use my but exactly i mean they were calling attention how hoary and awful that is and uh they don't really do much with it and also the b plot is a real stock plot too of like character discovers talent they never had before or after the payoff is very simpsonsy though that is simpsony that is a subversion of a plot. They wouldn't end an episode of Home Improvement with one of the kids being beaten. That wouldn't happen.

But the Homer thing is kind of a subversion. It isn't subverted all that much. Not really. The only subversion is that Homer learns nothing. I guess that is a subversion. This is unprecedented, but I think the opening pumpkin scene should get the line of the show. I think it's kind of the best.

I like it a lot. That's the joke. Hey, Homer, how come you got money to burn? Or singe, anyway. Yeah, Homer, what's your secret investment? Take a guess. Uh, pumpkins? Yeah, that's right, Barney.

This year I invested in pumpkins. They've been going up the whole month of October. And I got a feeling they're going to peak right around January. And bang, that's when I'll cash in. To Homer and to Sergeant Pepper, who is growing out of the middle of your back. Uh, Barney, you've got to unwrap the plastic before you smoke these. You're a homie. Hey, Mama.

Homie, you knucklebeak. I told you a hundred times you gotta sell your pumpkin futures before Halloween. Before. All right, let's not panic. I'll make the money back by selling one of my livers.

I can get by with one. It makes sense this episode aired in February because that's when he would be selling his pumpkin futures true yeah but the i just love like right around january when you see the happy halloween sign which was fun i watched this episode on halloween so me too me too it's funny when homer is mad that barney accurately guesses the surprise yeah no it's very obvious. Like, yeah, you're right. And I'll give credit to the animators for they drew the plastic over his cigar the entire scene.

So that he's kind of huffing plastic fumes that Barney has gone from drinking to huffing paint. Whatever gets you there. Money to singe is a great way to talk talk about moderate wealth yeah i'm a little i got some money homer very carefully puts out that one dollar bill when they like to cigar with and puts it back in his wad of one dollar bill yeah and yeah i like uh homer's got a different stock broker now i'm guessing a previous one from the germans episode died he was a very sickly man i just i needed a accountant so bad, but I'm not sure I can afford one.

Yet, apparently, I make more money than Homer in 1995. He has a stockbroker and an accountant? It's easier to own homes back then. What the hell? So, you know, the housing market. I want a home. I think old Grimey would have the same complaints. No, I wish that liver joke,

I wish he'd said, I can get by with two or whatever the the joke that homer thinks he has you don't have more than one you have one liver i think it would have been a funnier joke if he thought he had three livers or four if he said like i can get by with three that's funnier than i can get by with one it's still kind of like a too easy stupid joke no there's like five jokes in this episode i'll get to them each at a time like you could have done it's sort of a what's the number for 9-1-1 joke a very stock idiot joke you can write in about a second yeah and also we learned that apparently homer eats lipstick yes which i love the squeaky sound of the teeth being cleaned we had a deal your sisters don't come

here after six and i stop eating your lipstick this is a special occasion patty and someone just got promoted at the dmv yeah homer let your wife have a glimpse of success for once all right that's the last straw time to take out the trash but first i'm going to have to ask you to leave a great line a great line and the animation of him throwing out the couch with them on it and then pulling it back in but again that's a very like sitcomy thing only homer's like oafishness and super strength is what makes it uh makes it a heightened thing and i also do love him wrong smash yes uh also the great lines like when you have to plant the seeds you throw away the envelope talking about how hom gave Marge kids.

That's his only use. They got the three kids. I think that will eventually be a domestic structure. Looking forward to it. Femdom will go that far. I'm a giant liability for my girlfriend and I don't want her to catch on. But only dogs. Did you have dogs that ate lipstick?

No. I thought that was a reference to Homer being dog-like. That totally makes sense. I could see. Man. I think it started with our dogs with my sister's scented whatever. And then they just ate all lipsticks if they could get to them. I didn't really have a dog.

I didn't have a dog until after I was six. So I never experienced a dog eating lipstick. I did. And her name was McGaggy. McGaggy. But that makes it even. That does make it even a better joke, not just that Homer is a weirdo who eats flowers and lipstick and soap. And the back of those fancy soaps. Yeah, but that he does it in a dog way.

I do like that. But then Homer, I do love Homer's stress dream, actually. Oh, this is a great, great bit. This is so great. Congratulations, Mr. Simpson. love homer's stress dream actually oh this is a great great bit great congratulations mr simpson this invention of yours has made us all rich especially you it's simple yet ingenious and it fits right in the palm of your hand every person in america now owns one of these and in many cases three or four uh could i just get a look at that oh now why would you need to see it you're the genius who invented the product

in question. But could I just... Don't worry. You'll get to see it just as soon as we unveil our new ad campaign. Let me see. Let me see. Out of the way. Homer. Homer, wake up. There's still a few minutes till our usual bedtime. No, my invention.

I love how his dream is trying to screw him out of knowing anything the product question my dreams do that all the time yeah either i've written something or i came up with something that did well and i could never know quite what it was so i've had those dreams where like i wake up i'm like that's the perfect idea for and then as i investigating the thought well no i'm like yeah when i do that oh no that's a dumb idea. Why would I do that? It sounds like they're describing only, I can only think of the iPhone. It feels like an iPhone thing.

It does. It would fit in the palm of your hand. It looks like an IED from like Iraq. Yeah, yeah. Actually, what it looks like to me is a fidget cube. Are the cooler kids today with their fidget spinners? They need to get on the fidget cube. It looks like the Phantasm ball, actually. like a bop it with no speaker yeah yeah that i the function of it definitely sounds like an iphone though in in function ways and they changed everything some

americans own three or four and then marge is that that is a joke too she's her concern is that homer fell asleep a few minutes before their normal bedtime. Straight into that, we have Homer's fantasy about his entire family, which I do love. Oh, my money problems could have... Money problems? Homer, are we in some sort of fiduciary trouble? Oh, Marge, my loyal wife. Of course not. And Lisa, my little princess.

And who could forget dear Rat Boy? Rat Boy, I resent that. Bart, I told you before, stop gnawing on the drywall. It's weird that that might be the most notable joke in this episode. Yeah? I love dear Rat Boy. And they put a lot of... Out of nowhere.

They put a lot of funny words in Marge's mouth in this episode. I love fiduciary trouble. Yeah, they give her silly things to say. But the... My line of the show might be later. It's a very, very weird Marge line. Yeah, but the Rat Boy thing actually is funny to me, too, for a personal reason. I tried to Talking Simpsons...

Before we had it, long before podcasts, I had a report on Romeo and Juliet that I had to do for a junior high class. And I wanted it to be an audio-only project, which I could only do with a digital recorder. And I wanted needle drops of cutaways to things from other stuff. And one of them was, dear rat boy. And so I had to put in my vhs tape of the show get it to that exact moment hit record and just there was no editing software either so i just had to record in order i remember that and my teacher did not get it and gave me like a who in romeo and julia was dear rat boy ty? Okay. The dude, the guy who gets killed in the middle who loved his sister or something.

I only remember the plot of it as regards to Tromeo and Juliet. I prefer Romeo plus Juliet. But in Tromeo and Juliet, they normalize incest. Oh, you're right. Is that Guardians of the Galaxy's James Gunn? I think so. He wrote it. Yep, yeah.

Good times. That was one of their last really legit movies, I think. Legit is in quotes. Then they go straight to, it's something I don't like when they do the editing where they cut from Bart to Bart. But I guess it's really the only way to work. The ballet thing is completely and wholly separate from this. They never intersect at all. But I do like him saying like you're right

millhouse fun is fun and millhouse screaming truant but uh then we get a rare appearance of richard and lewis part season one friends who now are nobody and say nothing they get about one line every five years i i checked the wiki each have had four different voice actors because they just don't they don't keep them but i wonder if it was named after richard lewis i bet it is this gets uglier every year any sign of barton millhouse no and if they don't get here soon it'll be ts for them i don't feel right did that, Bart? That was a tardy bell. Truant! Truant!

Truant! They'll all say, I'm the reason. I can have fun all by myself. So night! So night! So night! So night!

So night! So night! God, Bart loves that Senior Wintus bit. He loves it. So yeah, you want to talk about Senior Wintus? Sure. He was a very, very famous puppeteer. I think made most famous by the Ed Sullivan Show.

But he existed up until the 80s, I believe. But it was a bit with a little boy named Johnny. But Johnny was his talking hand. He put a wig and two googly eyes on. So it would be a lot of rapid fire back and forth patter between the two. And I had to research this with Henry. Two years ago, we did the definitive guide to Robin Williams' genie impressions. Oh, yes.

Yeah, he does that too. And I just want to mention that yes is an obvious plug for that article. But I just looked at it. I was going to share it. I can't believe how many YouTube videos got flagged from that article. Like, who is copywriting senior Wintzes and Walter Brennan footage? There's not a lot of Wintzes online, actually. There are very few clips.

But it's funny. As you go forward in time, he's sort of an old man in the 60s. When he's doing the stuff in the 80s, it's like a withered old man. Hello, my name is Johnny! And it's like just a liver-spotted old man. The saddest clips of senior Wintus are in color. Let's see your song.

No, Johnny, no. No, no. Why? Why? It is very difficult. Easy. Easy? Yes. No. No. No, no, no. Very confusing music. Difficult. I say difficult. Easy. Easy? Yes. No? No. No, no, no, no. Very confusing music. Difficult. I say difficult. Yes. Yes.

Very easy. I say very difficult, Gianni. Yes. Yes. Easy. I say difficult. Difficult. Yes. Yes.

Say difficult. Diffic Yes. Say difficult. Difficult. Louder. Difficult. Louder. Difficult. Louder. Difficult.

Louder. Difficult. Good. Very difficult. For you. For me, very easy. Whoa! Listen, we were all scarred by a war, people.

That was very funny. I got a genuine laugh from being one of those guys. Yeah, it's cute. I find that puppet just grotesque, though. I like how he hides his mouth moving. That's why The Simpsons were so important, not just comedy writing, but that was the first animated character on television. Not really.

And obviously South Park fans will know that as like Jennifer Holpe. Oh, you're right. She's exactly that. Tackle somebody. Love you. But this was the first time ever, this episode, Oh, you're right. He's exactly that. But this was the first time ever, this episode, I never got the joke of TS for them. It's the second TS reference. I only got it as that's TS for them, meaning tough shit.

But the joke is it'll be TS for them cut to tethered swimming t s yes they are saying it'll be ts for them meaning they'll be stuck with tethered swimming oh that's the joke you just got that i never got well because you talk about when homer mentioned said ts i thought they were just saying tough shit me intellectual realized that as a I never, this is when it clicked for me. I never got that. By the way, is how when we're texting one another,

how we refer to this show. But it wasn't a saying where I was from. It wasn't, yeah. I think I asked my parents. But yeah, tethered swimming is real and it's actually called that.

It's not a sport. It's more for strength training. You wrap bands around yourself and you swim. It's mainly to punish servants. Pretty much. But now they have those endless pools where you just swim against the current that's true yeah that sounds like i mean that sounds like something crossfit people do but yeah yeah

it was just this moment like that's why they cut to tethered swimming i just what do you think it meant what i just thought they were saying tough shit and then they cut i didn't get tough shit until just now because it's a it was referenced in a preview well i think less of all of my co-hosts it wasn't the same let's move on let's yeah the sentence will be right back is this projection accurate is talking simpsons getting a live show yes the answer is yes everybody talking simpsons is getting a very own live podcast recording where at san francisco sketch fest in good old san francisco when january 28th 5 30 how much are tickets they're free you just gotta claim yours first if you're going to be going interested parties only it's going to be at the piano fight bar in san francisco

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Hey, this is Sideshow Luke Perry. You're listening to Talking Simpsons on Lazer Time. This week on Lazer Time, the Internet's seventh leading pop culture podcast, the gang is tackling a brand new topic. I tried to find a negative review of Citizen Kane. One star, it had no color. It was utterly depressing. The camera angles were okay, but the acting really wasn't too good. All the actors were always interrupting themselves or each other,

and it just didn't flow well in my mind. And this is my favorite line of all time. It's just like the Blair Witch Project. I mean, he's right. It's just like the Blair Witch Project. A lot of people watch Citizen Kane because of the hype and find themselves disappointed. It's sad but true.

Citizen Kane was a real disappointment. Totally unoriginal plot. Bad lighting! Cheesy sets! Boring too! And gosh what is this rosebud thing? That was freaky. Whoa dude! Anyway, this movie was whack and mad boring. It was a bummer too that it was all black

and white and all the guys looked the same because they all wore suits. That's Laser Time. New every Monday on LasertimePodcast.com itunes or wherever you get your podcast so mo wants to immediately break homer's legs as collateral, which I love that. It's a new level of darkness to Mo, but he'll get darker. One of my favorite dark Mo jokes, which they said was Hank Azaria doing a ad-lib, but of him just pointing a shotgun at Homer and saying, like, that's right, I rob people now.

But then Homer goes, oh, also that they show Lisa in her hockey uniform when she signed up for it. So I think that I wonder if that is supposed to be continued continuity from Lisa on ice. Actually, there's one thing I want to talk about. It's a very weird line from Skinner that is clearly ADR. And it's not funny. It's him saying, well, you should have gotten here earlier, Bart. There's no joke, but they clearly had rewritten what he was saying. Yeah, to make it just a statement of fact instead of, I feel like the joke could have been something like.

A Vietnam reference. Yeah, or him saying, I took ballet all the time and I loved it. Billy showed up late to the banks of Da Nang. Yeah, instead it was like, not a joke. I was like, this, I don't know. Yeah, and in a very flat line, so it made me wonder. For ADR especially, you're just like, why would you do that? I just, yeah.

And though I do like Milhouse getting kicked by Nelson and his type. Type one Joe. And we talked, I don't know. We've talked before about like, I don't know. When April Richard was on laser time, I talked about how I was so afraid of growing up and going into high school. And part of that was the idea of having to pick your own class. Like, I don't want to fucking be here anyway. Quit making me do research and deciding what I want to do.

And it's just a little early for elementary school kids, too. You had no choice at this age what classes you took. It was like all-purpose gym, basically. Yeah, like, it's just gym. Yeah, but they can't. That's the thing. They're stuck with the age groups. They have to give junior high and high school things to Bart and Lisa because they'll never be in junior high or high school.

This is a weak episode, but I have to say this act break might be one of my favorites. I forgot how long it goes on. First off, I do like Homer's threatening bank guy. I'm just like, well, I'm sorry I've been pre-declined for all these credit cards. But he's kind of like a tough guy. Like, we'll go to the house next time for no numbers. Yeah. And Homer pushed the dog around like a vacuum.

It's on his permanent record. This season, in the Merkin years, they did so many jokes of Homer laughs too long at something. But this is the ultimate version of it. You're my last, last chance. Bottom of the barrel, Hail Mary Longshot. Wish you would do it, but probably won't. Final resort to lend me money. We'll take care of you.

Yes. Care. cut him a check and get him the hell out of here i forgot how long it went on for a second i thought it cut after he starts laughing along with them but no they say get him out of here and he still keeps laughing. Just cut him a check and get him the hell out of here. I forgot he even keeps laughing. What they're giving him can't be a small amount of money, like a mortgage payment. I wish I'd looked

in this way. In the Midwest, knowing what a mortgage payment is compared to my rent here is just like, well, that's three times less. I would have owned a house by now. I had one in Florida, and it was $750 a month. Wow. I could absolutely afford that. I should buy a house by now, probably. I had one in Florida, and it was $750 a month. Wow, I could absolutely afford that. I should buy a house and not here.

This is back when that could ruin the Simpsons family, though. One missed mortgage payment, and the house belongs to the bank. Remember that plot on Roseanne one year where they took out a second mortgage on their house to pay for his motorcycle shop? That's right, yeah. Every failed business that Dan had. Every season he'd have a new one. on their house to pay for something to pay for his uh motorcycle that's right yeah and every failed business that dan has uh every season he'd have a new one so then they come back i like homer's satisfiedness of like i'm going to tilt my chair like that slanty and those those stakes are the stakes are some pretty stakes but yeah then patty and selma come over and they they let homer know that they own him.

And this euphemism doesn't work. I always thought that Siegfried and Roy have a very equal partnership. But it's a funny guy. This has been such a nice, peaceful dinner. It calls for a celebration. I'm going to make the most international coffee in the house. Montreal Morn. All right,

you had your fun. Now get lost. Our fun hasn't begun yet. Huh? We know something you don't want Marge to know. Now we own you. Like Siegfried owns Roy. I'm sorry. All we have

is Nescafe. I'm very, very sorry. Oh, Marge, Marge, you're just in time. Homer's getting ready to give us a foot rub. You are? No! I... I'm giving him a foot massage. At least

let me have that. You can start with the corns. Then you can move on to bunion country. A lot of jokes about Patty and Selma's feet. I would think in another episode they'd be disgusted at the idea of Homer touching their feet. They wouldn't want him. But I guess humiliating him is more interesting to them than not. They enjoy Homer's obsequiousness.

We'll hear that word later. I do love the jokes about bad instant coffee that was sort of a craze in the early 90s international coffees were just like crappy flavored coffees but they weren't actual you know brewing coffees there's like powder you mix into hot water yeah i didn't find any reference to this because it was my girlfriend made a simpsons reference the other night which is rare the secret ingredient is salt. The continued joke at Marge is this, like, the most basic bitch cook in the universe. Yeah, yeah. Oregano.

I love that the most international is French-Canadian. Montreal Mourne. But there were those commercials in the 90s where it's, like, two women chatting over coffee. Like, what was that waiter's name? John Luke. Oh, my God. Yes. Exactly.

I wish I'd pulled up that commercial. I forgot that but i don't think anyone drinks that crap anymore yeah that's right john luke that that was the gray of coffees that cafe rich creamy tasting coffee with a hint of vanilla flavor french vanilla cafe i love this coffee from general foods international coffees i loved that waiter sean luke is nescafe really bad i'm not a coffee drinker it's uh i mean i don't drink any instant coffee because it's all shit but it is like the low tier lowest tier instant coffee it's just like yeah just love marches very very sorry i also love on the commentary, they bring up that Brad Bird loved the drawing of Homer

with his glued-on smile. That's a great expression. It is so great that he's just trying to put on a brave face. And then we get our first of two guest stars on this, the better guest star who's actually playing a character, Susan Sarandon. Okay, steady, Bart. Taking ballet doesn't make you any

less of a man. All right, girls. Today we learn the dance of the fairy queens. You can either be a fairy or a queen. It's wide open. Ah, and what have we here? A young man, maybe, who thinks he can be the next Baryshnikov? I don't want to be the next anything.

I'm only taking this stupid class because they made me. So, he has fire in the belly. But it will take more than belly fire to be the next Baryshnikov. Look, Boris, I think ballet is for sissies. Ballet is for the strong, the fierce, the determined, but for the sissies, never. Now, put on this fousey attire. You are a fairy. That's great.

You are a fairy. This is Susan Sarandon, right? Yes. She had done voice acting before, I believe, with James and the Giant Peach, the Henry Selleck live action slash stop motion. That is way better than Nightmare Before Christmas. James and the Giant Peach is so good. I don't think so, but I also think it's very good.

Let's have this argument. It's also very good. It's a very stock character of the Russian ballet teacher. But I just wanted to ask, what the fuck is going on with Susan Sarandon? So right as of this recording, she's the guest star in the best episode of Rick and Morty. And I just saw her on Conan. Oh, wait. Who is she in Rick and Morty?

She's the therapist who teaches people how to eat poop in Pickle Rick. Okay, okay. She has the best lines of the season that ruin the show because a feminist wrote it. While it is kind of embarrassing to be a Rick and Morty fan, I love that show and that's a great episode. And she makes it even better. And I also love Nathan for you. Nathan Fielder was just on Conan and his agreement with Conan

was like, if I run out of interesting stuff to say, I brought in a backup guest. And then Susan Sarandon walks out and says nothing for seven minutes and sits next to him just in case. Well, Nathan,

no, don't talk to her. I'm trying to be the most interesting person. Is Susan Sarandon on the, she's an Oscar winner. Yeah. Susan Sarandon. Well, she's an Oscar winner. Yeah. Susan Sarandon. She's just having fun. Is she on the cusp

of good comedy? I think she is just, she's having fun right now. She's famous. Like, a lot of Hillary voters hate her and like, blame her for

Hillary losing, which is like, yeah, she was a Bernie supporter, but she's pretty down to earth. I don't think steel mill workers in Detroit are listening

to Susan Sarandon's opinion on who to vote for oscar winning it just does all this good yeah is willing to do doesn't get to star in much stuff these days because she's still hot as fuck i i agree actually i just saw on its premiere day which i didn't intend to yesterday uh this recording i hung out with my mom and she's like well let's see a movie well what movie um bad mom's christmas wait what's that one about well so it's the sequel to bad mom where i see that's my line of the show is a bad mom in the first one she's a bad mom who then meets uh kristenbelly katherine han and katherine is, she's a bad mom and she don't care. She's a single mom who fucks when she wants to

and she's crazy and gets drunk and has fun. And then Mila Kunis learns to wind down and be cool like Katherine Hahn. Now those same characters are at Christmas time. And that's the joke. I see. It is certainly a film. But the thing that's supposed to really

sell you on is that you get to meet the moms of the moms uh the mother of mila kunis is uh christine baranski then you have the mom of kristin bell is larry david's wife cheryl hines she's the funniest person in it and katherine hans mom is susan sarandon and she's great that she is uh this old roadie who never loved her child at all and just abandoned her and only wants gambling money i just i am so in love with susan sarandon right now for some reason from rocky whore picture show dead man walking she's great in cloud atlas yeah i said it she is velma and louise i just saw it for the first time a few years ago. Oh, it's great.

The Simpsons episode that it referenced. It's fucking awesome. I love her. And also that she would return 11 years later on The Simpsons to voice Phemac, the female Macintosh computer, the computer for women. In Dana Gould's season 17 written episode, Bart two mommies which is i'm sure i've seen that it's actually not yeah i think of it as one of the better new episodes and by new i mean a decade old marge starts taking care of rod and todd and there and she thinks that i have seen

this they need to loosen up and that flanders is too protective of them meanwhile bart gets kidnapped by a gorilla which would then happen like a year later in an American Dad episode, too. And there must have been something ripped from the headlines. In the news or something, yeah. It ends with Bart telling Rod that gay means a good thing. And then Rod says, Daddy, Daddy, Mrs. Simpsons made me gay. Oh, yes.

That's the end of the episode. I do remember this. And so, yeah, Susan Sarandon has doubled up as voices on The Simpsons. Yes, Lenny and Carl are going to go out and get a Zima, and I love this quietly funny line, stop wallowing in your self-pity, pull yourself together and come get

drunk with us. In case you don't know what Zima is, it's seriously delicious. So this guy sits down and he goes, nice bottle. Very, uh, what is it? Zima. Beer?

No, something different. Wine cooler. Not so sweet. Try a zip. Zip? What's in it? Yes, it's a pitanga. Am I right?

No! Okay. Enough of that Zima. It's Sprite with a little bit of alcohol in it. To quote Kevin Nealon, tastes like zit. That's from the weekend update from like 1993. I watched the clip about Zima from We Love the 90s. The thing that made me laugh out loud because of how fucking mean it is,

Patrice O'Neill in the middle of it goes, Zima's gay. And then just like smacks. That sounds like him. Zima's gay. Zima's gay. I love like smacked it's just funny that sounds like him Zima's gay Zima's gay I love Patrice it was a difference between

but then they cut to Christopher Lowell a gay comedian and he goes like I didn't get Zima's I didn't like Zima's I'm pretty sure I still see Zima

it's still around and I'm like oh I drank a bunch of it in Japan it's still that is the history of Zima Zima which is from Coors by the way

it was them it was Coors trying to get into the wine cooler market. The upscale customers. Yes. So they invented it. They stopped production of it in 2008 in America, but it was still on sale in Japan. I went to bars when I'd been in Japan. I'm like, Zima?

What the fuck? And then I was like, oh, I actually kind of like Zima. I would drink Zima before most beers. Henry doesn't like beer. I would not. it's basically smeared off ice though yeah yeah but then last or this year it got a limited re-release in america because they'll make more of anything from the 90s to sell it to us so they remade a crystal pepsi too right and yeah i'm still not happy oh. He's in this room somewhere. Oh, God. And apparently the Zima re-release sold so well that they're going to make more Zima

in a bigger reason. That's how you should interpret that. Yes. Idiocy. So that's what Zima is, guys. But they get to make fun of two effeminate drinks in here. Zima and Tab will both get shots in here that also lets you know how dated this episode is like they're drinking zima and it was new

oh i love this line it's too clever by half but i just i love how clever it is and that homer it flies right over his head but yeah oh sorry i also did love that sarandon's character couldn't think of another superhero after batman so he says magellan yeah actually maybe this should be line of the show am i wrong or did it just get fatter in here request permission to slink by permission pending first light our cigarettes but you're already smoking sick you're really pushing it come on homer you can't spell obsequious without i o u i'll have to trust you on that well marge was always a good speller let's ask her no don't tell much i'll be good i'll be good it's almost too smart of homer to think to burn the i o u while

he's lighting your cigarettes but obsequies does need the iou in it to be spelled and it means like overly servile ah it's beautiful that's what homer is being to patty and somi's being obsequious it's so great that homer's like you know take your word on that that leads straight into homer becoming a hannah barbara dog does this have the great march line at the end? Okay. Just for that, you have to crawl around on the floor like the dog you are. Yes, ma'am.

Now say, I am Homer Simpson, the lowly dog. In a dog voice. I am Homer Simpson. Well, good. Jump, Homer. Jump. What's going on in here? What's that paper what paper homer is this projection accurate did you borrow money for my sisters i don't know marge i can't

be expected to keep track of all my wheelings and dealings he blew all your savings on jack-o'-lanterns. Duke Toads! Yeah, so, is this projection accurate is my line of the show. It is so purposely clumsy. Go for it. Please. Sorry, I had to

pull rank on that. Mine is raps and boot-re-ruffing-wise. Same clip. Same scene. But it is a cheat. Like, the lamp has to turn into

a rear projection machine and the piece of paper has to become transparent. And fall upside down. Yeah. But it's beautiful. Like, it's a great line. And Marge, it would have functioned just the same if Marge said, is this true? Yeah. But instead, is this projection accurate?

And there is a weird kind of dance they're doing in which it is kind of uncomfortable to see Homer manhandle adult women. So you don't actually see the tossing happen. They're very careful with that, I noticed. And the joke that he threw Marge out and then immediately like, I'm sorry, Marge, kiss. And there's a great foley too where he's running back and forth. But I do think they didn't show the actual tossing.

You just see their bodies fly out of the house. You need a little separation for that. And I also love that Homer's version of being sad about it is just like you can sleep on the couch and okay do make me breakfast but I'll eat it under the table yes I love Marge's

line about how things are going not so good frankly he's under the table and meanwhile Bart has a very realistic idea of what will happen to little gay boys. Super true. Bravissimo, Bart! Next week, class gives its first recital,

and you, you will dance the mayor lid. Dance in front of my whole school? What is it with you and ballet? I know you have great conflict, Bart. You love ballet. Yet, you fear the boys will laugh at you. No? No, I fear the girls will laugh at me. I fear the boys will beat the living snot It's a very, very honest fear. And Bart really does do a demi-entreshant in it.

I looked it up. So in ballet terminology, putting demi at the front means a smaller, lesser version of something. So a demi whatever. And so an entreshant is, as defined by Wikipedia, a step of beating in which the dancer jumps into the air and rapidly crosses the legs before and behind. I did watch YouTube videos of that. Is this the clip where he drinks a tab after the line? Yeah, he drinks a tab, yeah.

So now that I'm into that. Was that a gay reference? It was seen as a girly drink for sure. Drinking a diet soda in a pink can was not the most masculine thing Bart could do. I've ordered a tab specifically, but never outside of a skating rink. It's been a long time. Tab is beautiful. I love the Sarah Silverman episode with the tab.

The battle of the tab between the gay guys. Homer tries to order a tab in the next season through his computer. Where's my tab? Where's my tab uh and then we this is i think the best joke in the episode about the mocking the edif the artifice of sitcoms the classy joe's commercial uh yeah hey dad what you doing daddy has very important work to do he's looking through the one heads to find a part-time job. Dad, that's a gag paper we got at the carnival. Oh, no wonder I didn't hear about

Bart being elected world's greatest sex machine. Oh, I'll never pay off that debt. Need money fast? Got no experience? Step up to elegance. Become a limo driver at Classy Joe's. That's it. I'll make money with a chauffeur job. Good thing you turned on that TV,

Lisa. I didn't turn it on. I thought you turned it on. No. Well, anyway, turn it off. It is off. That is great. The joke is that in every sitcom, the TV will tell you the next plot point. You're like, what am I going to do?

And then TV has a commercial that tells you the next thing you're going to do. I mean, I don't like what I would consider a C-plot in this episode that should have been brought in earlier because they could have had a lot of fun with Homer being a chauffeur, maybe move the Bart ballet stuff to another episode, but there's just too much going on. Yeah, it's a little busy. The ballet thing could have all gotten more time.

It's just like, save the ballet. Yeah, and the chauffeur thing is basically one bit, and that's it. It has one reason bit it has one scene yes but but first bart impresses the kids with his spiky haired masked dancing that spiky haired mask dancer is really something i wonder who he is he's graceful yet masculine so it's okay for me to enjoy this this reminds me of the movie fame and to a lesser extent the tv series which was also called fame i don't even know exactly why i love that joke but i just love that he sounds like something i would say he makes that personal distinction out loud yeah instead he could have

just said this reminds me of fame but he has to make sure you know it reminds him of both the movie and the tv as a pop culture pun and like fame's resonance is almost gone pretty much by this time yeah no i mean nelson should not know about fame it went six seasons or andy williams wait the show apparently yeah it was like 83 to 90 or something shocking i've never seen it i don't know what anything about it and i have no idea why nelson would remember it but apparently it like only just one year but around the time nelson's making this right well i bet it's full of licensed music which is why we don't never saw it in syndication i would bet yeah the fame the movie is much better

than fame the tv show not that any of the song from fame has lasted longer than the movies that's true fame i'm gonna live forever all right and now we get sued okay so this is i love mel brooks me too this is a moment where the show crosses a line and really doesn't try hard with it this is the first time this is a muppet show moment really honestly like ouch which they literally did do on the muppet show with mel brooks i'm like mel brooks brooks so here it is here oh wow i can't believe my very first passenger is comedy legend mal brooks i love that movie young frankenstein scared the hell out of me um thanks hey let's do that two thousand pound man thing i'll be that carl reiner guy and you'll be watch his face homer it's not that. It takes the genius of Carl Reiner and the rhythm and timing.

Then only he and I... Sir, today every country has a national anthem. Did they have national anthems 2,000 years ago? Sure. Sure we had. Of course, we've had caves. But every cave had a national anthem. I'll never forget my cave's national anthem.

What was that national anthem? Let him all go to hell except cave 76. What's with the siren? I'd love that last part, though. Yes, I do like him saying it in his old man voice. No, I mean, what's with the siren? And as a kid, I did not get this. No, I'd never heard of the 2,000-year-old man.

First, let's hear the original 2,000-year-old man. First, let's hear the original 2,000-year-old man. Yeah, we should point out, I think, Henry and I were talking, it's like an improv bit. They just sort of go back and forth with each other, and no recording of it's the same. Yes. They have some similar components. It's just Carl Reiner as the straight man soliciting old man memories

from the 2,000-year-old man, and they were very popular bits they they do on they do on shows they do on albums this is from an animated version of it that they made in the 70s is it true that you are 2000 years old oh boy yes you are too it's hard to believe sir because in the history of man nobody's ever lived more than 167 years as the man from Peru would claim to be. But you claim to be 2000. Yes, I'll be. I'm not yet. I'll be

2000, October 16th. Wow. Yes, Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks are still hanging in there. I believe Mel's in better shape, from what I hear. He's crossing our fingers. I believe Mel's in better shape from what I see. He's the only person from his era

who's still funny. His Marc Maron interview is an amazing one. Give it a listen from a couple years ago. He talks about how Carl Reiner's at about 80%. He makes fun of his best friend

for being... He's still kind of there, right? Well, because in both their cases, both their wives have passed away, so they're just kind of hanging out all the time. I thought Rob Reiner said they hang out every night. They eat dinner together all the time watch every all their

television shows and movies together it's really cute mel's keeping him active like which is real nice and yeah that mel and young frankenstein i love it i could look it's it's it's a good joke but you could be scared by young frankenstein i like young frankenstein it is not as funny as everyone seems to think it is but it is hyper authentic to the Universal Monster movies that it's sending up it's beautiful I think it's shot beautifully it could be his most like pretty movie

and it came out the same year as Blazing Saddles it's not as laugh a minute as Blazing Saddles that's the funniest Mel Brooks thing ever but craft wise it's a better made film that has a better ending. Like, Blazing Saddles intentionally falls apart into a flaming wreckage at the end on purpose. And it's great.

But as a story told and also as a parody of a thing, one is a parody of a Western, one is a parody of horror. It works better as a parody, too. And Gene Wilder is better in Young Frankenstein. Oh, for sure. My grandfather's ideas were doo-doo! I remember watching it as a kid, and it's dark, spooky, and Gene Wilder is constantly screaming. He's always screaming. I didn't read it as a comedy as a little kid. My dad did.

We should say that Mel Brooks is on this episode because he went to the recording with Anne Bancroft, who played Lowenstein in, no, sorry, Wise. Why? That sounds like something I would do. Hey, while you're here. Anyway, his late wife, then alive, played Marge's therapist in Fear of Flying. They're like, okay, Mel Brooks is here. Let's talk to him about getting him on the show. So this entire subplot is just built for Mel Brooks to, like, land in it for 30 seconds.

So I do like a little bit, I think that felt like real dan castellaneta as homer improvising yeah it sounded like it and the 2000 year the 2000 pound old man thing oh man would then be a joke on on mr show brett forrester's next job before we start before we start i'm sorry to interrupt you but i know from listening to the mr show commentaries which are great they hate this sketch so much it's one of the sketches they hate. It's so stupid. At worst, it's bad improv. I love it because it's so dumb.

The idea is so dumb. Listening to the Mr. Show commentaries are the only reason I know what The Simpsons was talking about. It took years. I just love the chickens. Delicious chickens. That's the name of the episode, right?

The joke is that a man crashed on an airplane and ate the entire airplane over a weekend. hub has all you need to know about smart meter plans ev tariffs solar panels and much more making your usage clearer your trips greener your home cozier and your world brighter find our net zero hub at electricireland.ie but then that turns out to be so funny of the interviewer talking to the fat guy that then it becomes the 2,000 pound old man sketch which I just love this line so who was the first caveman

Murray did you eat him eat him I'm not that old I'm only 2,000 pounds it doesn't make any sense I'm not that old i'm only two thousand pounds jesus i love you mr show oh god i love that uh two thousand pounds and i also think the joke is that homer gives him a terrible setup like all these countries have national

anthem these days like no they don't it's not a new thing to have a national anthem. So then we get to Mel Brooks Part 2 where Homer gets caught without a chauffeur's license, which in today's day and age of Uber and Lyft is such a... It's one of the most dated

things in this episode. It's almost cruel we force immigrants to get a chauffeur's license before they can get an iPhone. Now chauffeurs rule the world as TV's Frank once predicted. Chauffeur's license, eh?

Mel, buckle your bush belt! Since you're trying to make a getaway in park, I'm guessing you don't have a license. Better head down to the DMV. These two broads will help you out. Wow. Officer, this man is making me a little edgy. Could you please give me a ride to the airport?

Hey, hey, you're Mel Brooks. Sure, I'll give you a ride. Thank you. On the way, we can do that $2,000 man thing. You be Carl Reiner, and I'll be Police Chief Wiggum. Listen, why don't you play Carl Reiner and let me play Police Chief Wiggum? I hate Carl Reiner. That's a cute joke.

Obviously, he loves Carl Reiner. That's a cute joke. Obviously he loves Carl Reiner. This was hearing it in audio is when I got the, like, Homer is continually screaming throughout the rest of that exchange. It actually reminds me of a future episode, The Blunder Years, in which Homer remembers a horrifying event from his childhood, and he spends, like, the entire day screaming

just like in that clip. That was funny, but that whole episode is like, oh, that Burns only employs Smithers because his father died while working for him. In his corp shoot, just like in that clip. That was funny, but that whole episode is like, oh, that... Burns. Burns. His only employee is Smithers because his father died while working for him. In his corpse chute. No, no, Innocence Tube.

That was a good line. That's true. It's a funny episode. It was really a Stephen King parody. It really was. Yeah, so then Bart's skill as a dancer, which was never returned again,

impresses everybody, and then he gives the end of a sitcom speech, but reality sets in go ahead and laugh but i took a chance and did something i wanted to do and if that makes me a sissy well then i guess i'm a sissy he's a sissy let's rush him uh-oh use the ballet leap leap like you've never leapt before

looks like you took a pretty bad spill well as long as he's hurt. Bart, I am so proud of you. You've shown a sensitive side of yourself that can never be erased. From this day forward, we are kindred spirits. Why'd you just leave me here when I clearly need medical attention? Reminds me a lot of the Marge speech from the last episode Where a character gives a speech with swelling music And is immediately shot down right afterwards Well I like the

Why would a bully learn a lesson Where they're like Then if I'm gay I guess I'm gay He's gay beat him up As long as he's hurt Our town had the luxury of having Lead singer punk rock band tattoos Earrings out the ass

And I found out my sister goes to ballet Taught by his mother town had the luxury of having lead singer punk rock band tattoos earrings out the ass and i found out my sister goes to ballet taught by his mother where it turns out this punk rock chain smoking druggie tattooed is a fantastic ballet dancer and has been doing it closeted this whole time and we all got that wonderful moment and nobody got beat up but uh that's nice it did happen but poor yeah poor barth that they all just dances like girls and a second subversion of sitcom moment is that you think it's a sweet moment of lisa appreciating him he's like i'm in pain i'm really yeah and lastly though i think it was a little beneath simpsons to do such a big star wars reference that was a bit lame yeah like use the force use use the ballet.

I was like, eh. I totally didn't really like that, actually. They did that in season one, the family jewels, son. Go for the family jewels. No, that's true. It's the same joke, even with the same insert of the thought balloon. Yeah, that's true. Well, speaking of the same joke, Homer puts on his sarcastic voice again, just as he did

in Happy Land. I feel this is like an animator doing a silverman impression it's not quite silverman but it's doing his same sort of poses i don't want to insult mark kirkland i just think that kirkland he's been there since the beginning he's the most prolific simpsons director ever he's directed more episodes than anyone but i think it's really that like he's he's a b-level guy like he's the best of the B-level guys, but he doesn't get the fanciest episodes. And he's not as... He'll never be a guest now.

Mark Kirkland is great. I love Mark Kirkland. All right, but let's hear this scene. Stupid driving test at the stupid DMV where stupid Patty and stupid Selma work. Sometimes I think God is teasing me. Just like he teased Moses in the desert. Test it, Homer. God test it, Moses.

And try to be nice to my sisters. Very hard on me to have you fighting all the time. Oh, okay, Marge. I'll get along with them. Then I will hug some snakes. Yes, I will hug and kiss some poisonous snakes. Now that's sarcasm. I like that little tag.

I like that he's proud of it. Yeah. That's sarcasm. They have a fun battle of the points in the car. You jerk, minus a million points. Minus a million points for you. I think Homer in general is so... They didn't even need to weigh against him.

He's like, he's going to fail. Homer sucks at everything. Yeah, he's not going to pass the test. Especially when he's angry. Yes, an angry Homer doing a written test for something. He's going to fail. They didn't they didn't need to say like oh we only filled it in a bubble half the way they could uh though

when they smoke in celebration there shouldn't be an ashtray in the dmv if it's illegal to smoke it's their personal ashtray they break it out i'd like to imagine they bring it with them yeah i was just reminded because we did a Halloween viewing of Chopping Mall and it's just like just like my mall it's 1987 there's ashtrays bolted to every wall

every space there's ashtrays. Oh yeah. Like a cigarette machine. Our mall on the second floor didn't have ashtrays bolted to the walls. The rail overlooking the first story

was a trough. One long trough of cigarette ash and butts. It's just it's astonishing. i don't know cigarettes were banned from i have to imagine before i was born that happened it took a long time my parents both work for the state i don't remember seeing anyone smoking in those offices

but you could smoke pretty much anywhere i worked at a state college campus in the dean's office where all the furniture was from the 70s and every piece of furniture had a eight ashtray size hole drilled into it so it's like if you're piece of furniture had an ashtray-sized hole drilled into it. So it's like, if you're gonna smoke, there's an ashtray literally on every armchair. You can find some arcade cabinets that just have ashtray holders built inside of them. It's funny, that same Halloween party at our friend's house, they

bought a McDonald's-branded ashtray from, like, the 70s, and it's beautiful. It's a beautiful glass ashtray. I think they're using it for jazz. When I worked there at this exact time, our McDonald's had smoking sections. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, my grandma smoked.

We were always in the smoking section. Well, so that's why I think this, I love this joke, but one, their boss is such a stock, butch, mean lady character. Like, they do nothing with her. The sanctimoniousness

against cigarette smokers in this feels like written by cigarette smokers in the 90s who's like they say i can't smoke anywhere i'm an oppressed person i interpret it as like la was on the forefront of like fuck cigarettes and people my order to zima not emphysema that's exactly what i was like the funny thing is they're smoking because the stamping fail in the test gives them orgasms they're like orgasmically saying oh oh, and they need to smoke afterwards. This is great by Julie. Ladies, please don't tell me you're smoking in a government building. Because that is precisely the kind of infraction that can cost a couple of sisters their promotion.

Ha ha. Wow. What? Ha ha. What are you talking about? She. Who's? What?

She is. What? This? Ha ha. Ha ha. What are you talking about? She. Who's? What? She is. What? This? What? What? What? I'll never forgive myself for this. Wait a minute.

Those are yours, sir? Yes. I am in flavor country. Both of them? It's a big country ladies i apologize and you sir are worse than hitler i love uh dan's non-committed reading of those lines it's a big country are those yours yes and but that ending that ending is that would have been in home improvement or everybody loves raymond Like the moment of saving. It's just a little drama type thing at the end.

But I do love that for 10 seconds, Julie Kavner as two different characters has to like hem and hobble. Like, oh, what the hell? What is this? Hershey? Huh? What? That joke would have worked the same in five seconds. But then they doubled it up like, oh, it's so beautiful.

Yeah, I love the Patty and Selmama voices they're great yes yeah but homer saves them and that's when they get to see the great homer that they never see and they they then learn their lesson and it's also i gotta point out because as a at this time i'm smoking mobber borough cigarettes flavor country is a 30-year marketing campaign that this is the one thing we're too young to remember, because that's what the commercial said. Like, welcome to Flavor Country. I'm familiar with Alive with Pleasure, Newport. I'd walk a mile for a camo.

Anything slim for me. That's my... But yes, it's a reference to Marlboro Cigarettes marketing campaign. Which was just... That was illegal at this point. Do you think cigarettes will end in our lifetime? Yes, I think so. As he takes a long draw from his candy-flavored vape.

No, everybody's going to have their magic wand for their vaping. It's fine. I see Patty and Selma as more like Virginia Slim's ladies. There's going to be Patty and Selma vape plot on an episode of Simpsons. There's got to be, yeah. Eventually. Free idea, Simpsons writers, if you're listening. This tastes like cotton candy. I bet Al Jean would love that. It's ripped from the headline. There's eventually. Yeah. Free idea, Simpsons writers, if you're listening. This tastes like cotton candy.

I bet Al Jean would love that. It's ripped from the headline. Yep. There's a potty in my mouth and everyone's invited. But yeah, this, I do like this ending just that it reminds me of Homie the Clown. They're just like, we got 20 seconds. Like, it's the speed that's at the end. Like, they literally speed away from the ending.

And I love the shot of Pat and Summer just standing there, just like kind of flummoxed. Like, okay. I do love that. I'm speechless. You just saved our hides. Please, on top of everything else, don't make me picture your hides. That's a wonderful thing you did for my sisters. I didn't do it for them.

I did it for you, Marge. I'd kill for you. Please ask me to kill for you. No, homie. You see? This is the stuff I've been telling you about that you never see sorry if there's anything we can do to make it up call off the debt or say we could let you pass your driver's test call off the debt uh well that's off. Let's go, Marge. Woo-hoo! The look on their faces,

which that cost them at least a thousand bucks, I bet. They still wanted him to pay them back. No, you're supposed to pay me back. My adult brain was just swimming in this. Did he just agree to not pay them up to a thousand dollars? However, a promotion is worth that over time yeah in the end and i guess the slavery was uh came at a cost too yeah so he gotta let them keep their promotions

and so they made more money than that so that's fine but i just love that he takes well that's over let's go he takes their brief consideration as you know uh like the go flag like yes it's on it's on because It's on. Because it had to end at that point. Marge would have intervened. But Homer, save. We're saved from all that. And we got a joke instead.

Yeah, you get a joke instead, which is good. There should have been more. This episode just has like five or six moments where like, you guys could have wrote something better. Like, I'm used to you guys trying harder. Like that, I didn't mention before, but the ballet side of like the tea is silent like you guys get out of yeah there are better simpson signs but for as weak as this episode is how structurally uneven it is there are some like amazing jokes that come out of it just because you can't avoid having those in this era of the simpsons so the whole plot is the plot as a whole does not hold together i wish it would have been like a and b or just maybe a but it's like a b and c yeah and then also the most tacked on like the beginning of they'd had

guest stars play themselves in a similar fashion like tony bennett but that was good to see you the joke was he was there yeah but meanwhile in this it's like wow i can't believe mel brooks is in springfield it's named like whoa lady gaga It's always, she's my immediate one. Linda Ronstadt. It's a Muppet Show moment, which I say this as a huge nerd for the Muppet Show. I love the Muppet Show. Wow, Bernadette Peters, are you going to help me with my problems? Those moments are great, but you think The Simpsons is better than that. They are usually better than that with finding a funny thing to do with a guest voice.

Yeah. And they did with Susan Sarandon. Yeah, so I think we said our piece on this episode. Thanks for listening, everybody. I've been your host, Bob Mackie. You can find me on Twitter as Bob Servo. My other podcast is Retronauts. Every Monday, it's a classic gaming podcast. Look for it at retronauts.com or search for retronauts in your podcast

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