Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Lady Bouvier's Lover

Episode Date: July 19, 2017

Marge plays matchmaker with her mother and Abe, while Bart gets into collecting animation (with Homer's credit card).All that, plus we explain hot dog jingles, ancient medicine, and Mary Worth. Download now as our kneecaps fill up with fluid!

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even cynical members of Generation X. I'm your host, Bob Mackie, whose exploits are sad and boring, and this is the Lasertime Podcast Network's chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who else is here with me today? Hey, it's Henry, and whoop-de-doo, Tarantula Town! Chris McGaggy and Tista, also with you. And special guests. I'm Dave, latex condom inhabitant Rudden. Okay, that's awesome. And today's episode is

Lady Bouvier's Lover. What? No! I love that remix. Put that on the soundboard. Put that on the soundboard immediately. One more time. What? No! I love that. That was not in the

fart episode of Laser Tag. Sorry. It's okay. And Lady Bouvier's Lover aired on May 12, 1994. And as always, Chris will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh my God! Bibbidi-bobbidi-boo! Both The Simpsons and Home Improvement receive a beating in the ratings courtesy of the two-part television event Stephen King's The Stand. I watched that.

M-O-N. That spells stand. The finale of Melrose Place almost becomes the first broadcast TV show to pick two gay men kissing, and Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy Onassis is dead at 64. Really? Wow. Holy shit. Within a few

days, yes. Marge's mom's namesake is dead. Marge's mom's namesake. That's amazing timing. I never, I didn't know that at the time. Obviously for our parents the death of Jackie O is a huge deal. I remember it was a huge deal but I didn't make that at the time obviously for our parents the death of jackie oh is a huge deal i remember it was a huge deal but i didn't make the i never heard her called bouvier ever we also having watched this on broadcast television never saw this episode title ever no no not until the internet told us but looking at them together it was very close

it's it's within a week of uh her death is within a week of this episode with her namesake. And the title of this is a reference to a sexy, scandalous book of a long, long time ago. Lady Chatterley's Lover. And it was an even sexier movie in 1981. I don't want to harp on this too much. I had never seen Grey Gardens. And if you haven't, it's great. Oh, it's great. There's a documentary now, Parody, that's also great.

There's a sequel that's also great. But that is Jackie O's Cousins. Right. I didn't know that. They're a lot like Patty and Selma. Spinsters who live alone, except at least Patty and Selma have power. And they don't have a raccoon living in their house. People from former wealth in a giant decaying house who never leave and can't grow hair.

I don't know how much of a connection there is there but gray gardens people well this is a great episode of it is oakley weinstein special of elderly jokes they love the elderly so much yes and according to oakley and weinstein the pilot that they wanted to make but never could was about a bunch of old men in a submarine who all lived in the submarine and thought that world war ii was still happening That is amazing. They never left the war. It should at least be a movie. Also, another pre-production tidbit. This is from Bill Oakley. According to him, one of the ideas in this episode was that Grandpa would get injured

on Mr. Burns' property and get stuck there, just like in the movie Misery. So we could have had concurrent Critic and Simpsons Misery parodies. Well, this Misery parody would have come three months after the Critics, so they'd have looked like they were really ripping it off. Yes. But the script was just too long, so they had to cut it away. And I bet you if we contact Bill Oakley, he can find us those pages and scan them, because they keep everything.

Well, you know, I found a really amazing thing in research for this. On January 31st, 1994, a newspaper article was published about the table reading of this episode a reporter was there for the table read and it is called simpson actors voice their appreciation from reading the article you would think that there is one writer on the simpsons named dave merkin not currently draws at all right and that actors make up everything and that no drawings happen it just magically appears very easy as it's described as like dave merkin takes the writer through how they do a table read and they basically describe the writers as a collective

of dorks who just rewrite something when when it doesn't get a joke and the only real people they talk to in it are the actors but they do it for the first table reading of this and there's some interesting things that are cut from the episode that we only find out from reading in this table reading first off the the writer says maggie says her second word in this episode which is spaghetti so apparently there was a joke that maggie says spaghetti at her birthday party hopefully it's sequel right hopefully it's after hom Homer mispronouncing Paschetti. And also that Dan Castellaneta was testing out a Ross Perot impersonation, which Ross Perot will be mentioned later in here in the episode, but he doesn't appear on screen. And then lastly, it really shows you Harry Shearer. Even back then, he's like, you know, they really lost track of the characters at the

start of the season, but it's gotten a lot better now. Wow, he's like you know they really lost track of the characters at the start of this season but it's gotten a lot better now so wow he's on on tape saying that he's quoted in that in this table read in the middle of c at the end of season five i think he liked working with bill oakley and josh weinstein more than david merkin uh he thanked them when they left and apparently he doesn't do that a lot well they didn't say names but they i think they really implied that in the george bush episode that day that oakley weinstein did that harry shearer was the one who's just like this isn't political commentary like he was mad at what they say that one cast member was mad it wasn't as political as it had to be here sure i feel being apolitical anyway yeah this episode

is about old people but it starts with the youngest character on The Simpsons having a birthday. It's a nice contrast. A strong episode opening is monkeys tearing apart Sideshow Mel. One's really going for his throat. It feels very realistic of like when you read about ape attacks at zoos, you're like, they go for your throat or your genitals. They just go straight for it. But Mel had it coming. He poked that monkey in the head.

That's true. I was looking down, and it just, why is Homer being attacked by, oh. It sounds so much like Homer being attacked. It's the screaming,

even with a great voice actor like Dan Castellaneta, screaming is hard to do in character. Yeah, it is. And that's also when I learned the word credenza. We had an interview with Paul Credenza, didn't we?

It's a rare visit to the rumpus room yeah they oh i felt like the last time we saw that was when lightning strikes yes and comment three minute comic book or it's re well actually it's reused in uh the big brother episode i meant to i meant to keep track of every time the rumpus is it just because of the credenza in there oh that it's the it's just the other room they can have tv if they don't want the characters in the living room they got to be there but it exists? Oh, that it's just the other room they can have TV. If they don't want the characters in the living room, they've got to be there. But it exists in subspace, right? It just materializes and there's a portal you walk into to get to it.

I've seen architectural layouts. It's there canonically, I believe. There's almost no reason for anybody to be in there because it means one person is watching TV. Well, in our Patreon-exclusive interview with Paul Provenzano, he talks about how they had to make a layout for all that stuff including the house for virtual Springfield but I just love this I love this line so much. Homer you didn't do a very good job frosting Maggie's birthday cake.

What? It's not McGaggy's birthday? Oh. Hey hey hey hey stop it I made a special cake for you to ruin It's over there I love the cake because it really looks like a pair of jams I had in the 80s

The only part of the cake that Homer really wants Is the letters He just wants to eat the letters off of it And Marge has gotten to the point where she knows Homer will destroy everything So I just have to give him a different thing to destroy I am that person though because if I'm eating stuff off of the cake I'm not technically

eating the cake so I will pick at it and get away with not eating I didn't eat the cake at all my little brother famously in our family he did that when he was like five he had his birthday cake but like he can't have it yet and so he just like licked off a lot of the icing or

well not licked like put his tongue on the, but just scooped it off and ate it. That's better. When my parents discovered it, they asked him, did you eat the icing off this? He's like, no, bad guys did it. That was a saying in the family for a while of bad guys did it. Did you submit that to Bill Keene for the family circus? It sounds like a perfect one of those. Well, it would have been a good nobody. Nobody did it it was not me that's the joke oh

god the ghost of his grandfather who did it he wants him every day that grandfather ghost man that was creepy i felt like i was definitely keen thinking about his own mortality quite a lot in the when when it was so much more pointed at the elderly and family circus in the like 20 years i read it with i didn't want to read it but it was a comic strip section i love read it i love that comic bought a bunch of books of it god those billy mays uh ones are amazing don't don't deny it so julie cavner really gets a workout in this oh yeah so this is the most when the doorbell rings and marge lets in Patty and Selma. Oh, man. It has to be the only time ever that Julie Kavner voices four characters in the same breath.

I'm like, no other character interrupts of Marge to Patty to Jacqueline to Selma. Maybe the Thanksgiving episode, but that's it. Maybe. And so Jacqueline Bouvier is Marge's mom. She appears in the Thanksgiving episode and in this episode. And then not for, what, another 20 years or something like that? Yeah, really. Is there a reason for that?

Did they kill her? I thought so. No, she never died. I know they bring her back when they explain how her father died, how Marge's dad died. And you see her more in flashbacks. I think they just don't get a lot out of her. And it hurts Julie's voice. And she's not very interesting in here in this episode they dropped the thing they gave her in thanksgiving

which was that she judges everything marge does and nothing satisfies and she's incredibly dour and in this episode i'm gonna say she's not really even a character she's just there for people to react to her and just to be placed in situations for other characters to perform that's true her drive that she's given the lightest of character motivations she's just even well because they can't make her senile like abe is just mr senile so she just has to be at best desperate for attention before we get into the uh maggie's ailments thing we do see another appearance of gerald so bill oakley and josh weinstein's episodes are sort of pushed to the end of this season, so you see a lot of the same characters and jokes

like back to back. So we see another appearance of Gerald. Maggie doesn't get along with the other babies. There are no other babies. Yes, that's such a weird delivery by Ridley Smith. Maggie doesn't get along with any of the babies. It's clearly Lisa is worried, but yeah, saying

the other babies twice is creepier. It's not the baby with one eyebrow's first appearance. No. It's the first and only appearance by the burly black neighbor. Yes, which was so weird that someone lives adjacent to the Simpsons, never interacts with them,

kind of looked like a black version of the main Shelbyville dad. Yes, isn't it? Shake her to boy! Like the same overalls and big round head. In two years, they would knock that house down and build the Bush Mansion.

So we'll see that soon. I love that. Happy birthday. It's one of my favorite birthday clips to see on someone's Facebook. Yeah, but from across the street that you hear it too. And that he's mixing up

a giant black man with a little yellow baby. Yeah, I think they made that guy black on purpose. You're right there. I was just like, that wasn't a random choice. And that he's mixing up a giant black man with a little yellow baby. Yeah, I think they made that guy black on purpose. You're right there. That wasn't a random choice. And then you just get a lot of cute observational stuff of what it's like to attend a baby's birthday party

because the baby doesn't care. It likely doesn't know it's at a first birthday party. Very David Silverman-y drawings of people with cameras looking like cyclopses. The camera monsters was great and it was so, yes, you're right, it was very much the Silverman-y drawings of people with cameras looking like Cyclops The camera monsters was great and it was so, yes you're right, it was very much the Silverman curve on people

It is one of those things I'm glad I moved away from my hometown because I don't have to go to baby's first birthday parties and I see pictures of it and videos of it now and I'm like this is humiliating On the rare occasion I do, it's like a friend so it's like a bunch of friends, some of them who have kids, some of them who don't, and we just drink.

And somehow that's allowed around kids. I've just seen videos of people dancing and singing happy birthday to a thing with no brain. Yeah. Maybe it's because we live in the magical land where... Children aren't allowed. Well, our one friend who does have two children now, he told me the thing he likes about birthday parties is it's just the excuse to hang out with other parents that's really what it is yeah one thing about the two cakes i just remembered is that i know people with children not in the city because

they're banned from the city of course but like homer and marge they bake the baby like a smash cake is what it's called they put the cake down in front of the baby for the baby to smash and ruin. Then they eat a separate cake. We love wasting food in America. It's fun. And then we get into another Oakley Weinstein thing which is like, these are all fake. I looked them up. They made them up, but they all sound

very real. Put some Lister's Carbolic Unguent on a wad of cotton. Put the cotton in your ear. That'll stop them shakes. No, no. What she needs is a balsam specific. Balsam specific? While we're burning money, why don't we give her a curative galvanic pill, too? Don't forget to give her schmeckler's powder.

Don't make fun. So, Henry, these are all fake things, but they all have roots in real treatments. Oh, really? So, Lister's carbolic Unguint. Carbolic acid is an antiseptic. You can buy carbolic soap, and unguent just means like a lotion or a cream or an ointment. Balsam-specific, so

the word specific in this case means a remedy for a specific ailment. Balsam is tree sap, so it's like a remedy made of tree sap, and the curative galvanic belt did exist. It was an old-timey treatment like an electric belt you wore under your clothing that would give you shocks throughout the day to give you more energy of course it didn't work so these are all is there anything it can't do these are

all real real things i'm sure bill oakley and josh weinstein had some ancient almanac i want that glossary of old people terms so bad that's beautiful man well thank you bob you you you beat me in the research round this time. Research wars will never end. That was a common, don't forget Smechler's powder. It was always like at GamePro's common line when like two people were talking about like an ancient TV show or something like. I like how even in the animation, Bart kind of lifts his lip up to look more old.

And I kind of like that scene too it even though he's yelling at her but it shows an early connection between the two of them that like abe never has anybody he can talk who talks his language of old things he just mentions stuff no one's ever heard of and they ignore him it's kind of like a screwball comedy where he's arguing with the woman he will fall in love with so it's all timey in that way with it's quite a meet cute and then comes a commercial so maggie goes to bed and it's actually i love they brought back the cutaway through the floor gag i haven't seen one of those in a long time and then they talk about other cute things that bart and lisa did and them being forced to entertain at a party that's another like very kid party thing i'm just

especially when the parents are drunk we saw that in the war the simpsons like do that cute thing you do i think you know go to bed yes now it's time to hear about hot dogs yeah hot dogs armor hot dogs sing it like you mean it what kinds of kids eat armor hot dogs? Fat kids. Skinny kids. Kids who climb on rocks. Tough kids. Dizzy kids. Even kids with chicken pox. Love hot dogs. Armor hot dogs. Hot dogs. Kids love to fight. Doesn't this family know any songs that aren't commercials? I feel like chicken tonight Like chicken tonight Like chicken tonight

I love hearing Grandpa's pain singing Chicken tonight I love that one of the most dated aspects of the Simpsons Are when they quote contemporary commercial jingles Some movies will be relevant forever But Chicken Tonight, I don't even think is a product in America. But I remember at that time,

Chicken Tonight was huge. It was huge. There's a semi-funny Australian clip of a product called Dickhead Tonight because everybody gets up and dances like a chicken. Well, let's tackle these ads in order. Oh, please. So the Armor Hot Dog commercial ad

came out in the 60s, and it was funny. It's something I call the Wiener Wars in that they both had catchy jingles. I wish I were an Oscar Mayer wiener. And this was the other competing catchy jingle. So let's hear it. It's identical, but this is the 60s version. Hot dogs.

Armor hot dogs. What kind of kids eat armor hot dogs? Bad kids. Skinny kids. Can't you find my house? Wait a second. Cut. Because I got another commercial for this. Oh. And it makes me laugh so much because it's just a style of music that existed all over the place in the late 70s into the mid 80s. It's the Armor Hot Dog song, but it's just, it's a style of music you never hear, and it just constantly makes me giggle. Just like the voice of the bill on Capitol Hill.

I don't know what style that is, but we have not heard anybody do that in years. It was only recently I heard that. It's like Taz's dad. Oh, yeah. Well, you see, son, you got to eat the hot dogs. I've been closed. I don't really have any. I'm a hot dog.

If you look up that clip on YouTube, that is like a kid all-star commercial. It really is. You got boys who have a penis, girls who have a vagina, and the girl that was on Growing Pains. Oh, wow. The younger Growing Pains girl, right? It girls who have a vagina, and the girl that was on Growing Pains. Oh, wow. The younger Growing Pains girl, right? It's the one I remember, and I just love that song. So the one thing I learned recently is that the term sissy is kind of a gay slur. I don't know if you guys have heard this before.

Oh, certainly. Have you heard it, Henry? Imagine, I mean, we use this word all the time, but only later in life. It's like, oh, I guess, I mean, it's sort of like just saying faggy. So imagine if this was like tough kids, faggy kids. Like, would that seem shocking? It is pretty shocking, yes. That word was defanged in our generation.

It means a somewhat fake kid, which obviously should be judged because gender roles are specific. Yeah, I think that's why they didn't. Sissy Kids wasn't in that other one right the um i don't think they have sissy kids in that one no no they didn't they changed it up a little bit yeah it was i just wanted to hear that guy's voice i love it makes me laugh so much i went above and beyond because i'm obsessed with old foods no it's great and chicken tonight of course is a kind of sauce you cook chicken in by the Ragu Company. I was so disappointed to find out it's just a sauce you make with chicken. It's a marinade. Ragu introduces Chicken Tonight simmer sauces, and suddenly everybody's saying,

I feel like chicken tonight, like chicken tonight. People dancing like chickens. Choose from four new sauces. Each one's made. Four sauces, everybody. Four flavors. 90s. If someone really savvy out there will do it,

just put in like Job's chicken dance noise to these people dancing like chickens for chicken tonight. I checked. It's still a popular brand in the UK. I had to go all out with Armor Hot Dogs because basically it's the story of America. I couldn't believe they're still around in the 90s. Yeah, that's what I remember coming out.

I thought it died in the 60s. You can buy armor hot dogs right now. You can buy armor hot dogs right now, but the amount of times it's changed hands is the story of corporate America. Oh, really? Yes. They even donated a bunch of hot dogs.

What is this? Spanish-American Civil War. Whoa. Which then, half a million hot dogs, which then poisoned thousands of soldiers Oh boy Biological warfare? The armor hot dog division also created

Dial soap Which ended up surpassing the popularity Of the hot dogs They created dial soap In the mid 20th century And then were sold to the Greyhound Bus Corporation What? And then to Revlon and then a German company

who sold off the non-Dial food assets where Dial is now its own company to Pinnacle Foods and they still, Armor Hot Dogs are apparently still around. I've never seen them and they might be most famous for the non-lunchable lunchmaker upstart that tries to challenge the Oscar Mayer Lunchable with stacking crackers with cheese and ham.

Well, when I was a kid i there was a period where i'd have hot dogs like every other day for for lunch but it wouldn't be with it would be without the bun because i told my mom i really liked out in old cartoons so in old in old cartoons when you see a hobo yeah with a hot dog on the stick i'd be like i want to eat like that so i'd get that with a fork maybe the first food i could make so many memories of eating an armor hot dog while watching gumby cartoons we should have rescued you cosplaying as a poor person and i guess though my preferred hot dog brand now is uh hebrew national or Athens those are my two favorites it's got to be all beef because i want the parts of the brains and feet to get mashed together in a hot dog it

better be from a cat i'm an oscar meyer wiener kid and it's because of those white spots in it i will eat a hot dog from a cart just anything before that process i find repulsive and disgusting like it's ay, cold pink. It's awful. I'm fine getting it in a cart though. I love hot dogs. But chicken night, can't you just put seasoning on your chicken? You have to drown it.

I made sure to look stupidly closely at the brand. It's just dressings and salsa. It's like Hamburger Helper where it's like, this isn't actually the thing. I think it's if you want to make chicken parmesan and you eat it with pasta. It's basically Alfredo sauce and salsa. It's like Hamburger Helper where it's like, this isn't actually the thing. I think it's if you want to make chicken parmesan and you eat it with pasta. It's basically Alfredo sauce or salsa. I like the name of it. Honey mustard.

I think that's maybe why it's less popular in America now, that it implies the family would cook together and like, I'm making chicken tonight. Well, not just to harp too much on it. It's just a product that's available everywhere else under different names. It's just sauces, but they're marketing it as for your chicken. It's smart a product that's available everywhere else Under different names It's just sauces but they're marketing it as for your chicken It's smart ragu So Matlock is going to be on And the Matlock trains are coming

And they've got to get on it I never heard the line Each Matlock could be our last And I think Matlock was cancelled at this point I booked it up Matlock that would be their last Would air on May 7th 1995 So a year from this episode.

The last episode. Because they had a ton of TV movies. Oh, yeah. This was the last episode. So then they probably had TV movies. But it's called The Scam, Part 1 and 2, aired on May 7th, 1995. And I like that Miss Bouvier, she enjoys Matlock, too. Because in Springfield, every old person loves Matlock.

We love you, Matlock. And I also like Homer's... The cruelty implied of Homer's like, more Christmas. He was like, please don't come. You don't have to come for Thanksgiving. It was a nice reference to how that's the last time we saw her, too.

She wasn't at a Thanksgiving episode. Did they show Miss Boobie's retirement home? Yes. We'll get to that in a second. I thought it was weird that Patty and Selma drove to the Simpsons house in a Jeep. Yeah, that car there. Not just a Jeep. The Jeep Hanson is driving in the Mbop video.

It's not quite a Humvee. It's so strangely specific, and we've never seen it go. You've never seen it go. I feel like I've never seen them drive a car before. Oakley and Weinstein really like the idea of surplus army Jeeps, and Patty and Selma are cheap, obviously. It's not just a lesbian thing. We can hear the story of those surplus army jeeps in that Bill Oakley interview.

Go back through the archives, folks. I don't know if it was for the three frames of Jacqueline Bouvier's hair going backwards as they speed away. Maybe that's it. We don't want to draw her hair getting smashed down. We want to make a Kennedy assassination reference.

Also, I was wrong. She did appear in Selma's Choice at the Aunt Gladys funeral. I like that Marge is so pro this from the beginning. It gives Marge something to do in an interesting character trait that she wants to set up her mom with. Abe Simpson, of all people, I really wouldn't do that. Homie, you know it's funny. Both my mother and your father seem

pretty lonely. That is funny. Yeah. Anyway, maybe they could go to a matinee together, or shopping, or to that room in the library that's always full of old people. Periodicals, that's it. Marge, please. Old people don't need companionship.

They need to be isolated and studied so it can be determined what nutrients they have that might be extracted for a personal use. Homer, would you please stop reading that Ross Perot pamphlet? Oh! I love that line where he looks, no! So what was this joke? I mean, it's a funny joke, but was it referencing anything specific, any specific Ross Perot plans? I don't remember enough about him, but he was an independent candidate candidate but probably would have been the republican candidate had that been open to me

i think it was just he was viewed as a kook and this could be another kooky idea he had i just don't remember those types of idea for not like fierce libertarian utilitarian use for old people i was like why would ross perot write that when he's old well ross perot's well because he's a rich old guy you don't do that to him, but I think that the, I think it came from just the root of like, Ross Perot in 92 was a big ass deal and people wondered if he'd run again in 96. He did.

But in 94 he was kind of in the middle and he was, people were used to him just coming out of left field with plans because he didn't have to talk to the Republican committee or the Democrat committee. So he's just like, well, here's my crazy plan.

I worked in my own business. And so everyone has one gay experience. So you can extrapolate harvesting the organs of old people as well. And Homer just laughing that it is funny. It is funny. But I liked periodical sections. It was a fun way at the library to read every magazine for free. The newspapers had those awesome wooden swords attached to them.

Oh, yeah. A fucking kendo stick and wrestling with the newspaper stuck in it. I have done the Homer thing where someone says, and it's funny that this is happening or this is whatever, and I'm like, yeah, that is funny. It is funny. When people really mean interesting, they don't mean literally funny. Yes.

Now I don't think – I haven't been to a library too often. I don't think I see old people specifically in the periodicals anymore. I mean this is different. We just see homeless people in libraries. Well, libraries, it's what I love on Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. They really understand that the library is where you go to the internet when you don't have a computer. And it's where homeless people store pornography. I go pretty frequently because my girlfriend doesn't like to buy books but reads constantly.

Smart. It's beautiful, but just everywhere around you. Like, I never knew I could recognize a recently released prisoner just on site. But this is a guy whose clothes are, like, 12 years old. They've got stripes on them. He's holding a number in front of him. He's got a cannonball chain to his leg. No, but you'll see people who are clearly like trying to get their lives together.

Nothing like crazy or anything like that, but their clothes are too old and they're trying to get... Old Korean women watching soap operas and homeless as far as the eye can see.

Which, hey, I mean, that's fine. Libraries should be supporting. Fuck yeah. They need a bathroom. Dude, they have free DVDs, video games, comic books. I go there too.

It's down right on the road. You pay a lot of taxes for it, so jump on board. People in the city complain that, oh, this street smells like urine. Well, if they had free bathrooms everywhere, then it wouldn't smell that way. But you wouldn't want tax dollars paying for that. That bathroom is a nightmare. I dare you. Oh, I would never.

I wouldn't. But I hate all public bathrooms, as I've said earlier. I don't like using it. Then we go to the other retirement home in Springfield. It's actually, I think it's like Independent Living or something like that, or like Assisted Living. I don't think it's a retirement home. They're apartments. That's true.

It's not as bad as Retirement Castle. I wanted to dig into the reference. Oh, yeah. The Hal Roach Retirement Home. And I don't really get it still I mean it's just an old timey reference Because Hal Roach of course is the producer of Argang Yes

Little Rascals and Laurel and Hardy shorts He's the producer of like mainly Argang Yeah But like one of the things I did read about him He lived almost to be 101 Yeah So perhaps it's a reference to how long he He not only like outlived three of his children who died of old age.

Wow. He outlived almost every single little rascal. That's incredible. The children he produced and things. So maybe it was there to be like, yeah, Hal Roach. But he had just died at the time they were producing this episode. In 92, yeah. But I wonder if he stayed in touch with Moe.

I would think he excommunicated him after he murdered one of the original little rascals we get a very very sad this is my favorite sad joke in the whole series so that's not my mother i'll be back in a jiffy can i come too they're politely ignoring her her design is great too that she looks like abe uh as someone has addled today as abe could mistake her for bouvier yeah but that she's so sad you're like can i come too it does combine two of my favorite kind of substance jokes which is an old person being sad and a person who looks just like another character and And just their lack of eye contact as they roll up a window. It's just so like...

It's a great drawing. Yeah, it's nice cruelty. Like, it's just like, well, this is polite cruelty. Has it been established in a previous episode that they have the rolly windows and not the...

It does go back and forth. Yeah. I think the rolly window, I mean, I think the power windows underline the joke. That sound of like... It sounds better. I believe it was a power window when they get attacked by the lions at the...

Discount line safari. Discount line safari. Boy, that word was just not coming to my head there. But that was another joke that I would make at work at GamePro. Back in the day when I hear two cubicle mates saying like, oh, let's go to the bar after work, I would just instant message them with that clip. So next we go to P. Piggly Hogswine Super S'more.

I love that. I love that, too. P. Piggly Hogswine. I'm from the south. Obviously, we had Piggly Wigglies. That was the grocery chain. But I think it was very local. We had an upstart group of gas stations called the Hogley Wogley.

I've never seen another outside of Florida in my life, so I don't think they were all over the place. I only heard of Piggly Wigglies. I live in Ohio. It was because it was an easy, funny name for a store that people could use in sitcoms. Like, I'm going to go down to the Piggly Wiggly. Come and eat my guts.

I'm a pig. Well, that pig face is funny, which the hog swine's face is kind of the piggly wiggly face. And it's great that he's serving another pig to you to eat. Serving up himself. And it is a perfect old folks meal place to do. Like, well, let's just go to a cafeteria slash style buffet place. And eat dinner at 2 p.m.

Yes. We talked about that somewhere else, but that is a restaurant style. I do remember the cafeteria style. It was not always drive-through and sit-down. That's an old aristocratic thing. Yeah. You had cafeterias everywhere. Before I was 10, we had one left, Morrison's.

There was a chain called Morrison's where you'd bring a tray down, select what you want, and pay for what you get. And we only have one kind of restaurant now yeah well i think the cafeteria just graduated into the buffet which is a similar setup of like you pick what you want but in a buffet it's like you just never stop yeah it's all you know we have one here joe's original in san francisco across the street from the theater where you go and you just tell the i don't want to call him a barbarian but the guy different people cut different meats and you ask for those cuts like a badgeian, but the guy, different people cut different meats and he asked for those cuts.

He's got like a badge too. He does. I'm the meat officer. I only cut pork. Well, Smorgasbords, I remember we went to that Hofbrau every now and then for work lunch back at our old job. And I just liked that. It was like, here, just pick your meal and we're going to cut up the meat right here.

And you'd always think like, well, that's all the meat they're giving me. And then they would give you like double that. Yeah, more pig. But both Grandpa and Jackie fell for the telemarketing scam. Yes. And they both didn't mind, although Grandpa thinks it's not a scam. He thought it was just lucky. He was just like, you win

a prize. Then came a scene that when I first saw it, I thought was a Betty and June parody. Me too. But it is. No, it's's all I knew it from. But it is. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Yes. It is because that was a very popular scene

in Benny and June. It's more of a Benny and June reference than a Charlie Chaplin reference because the joke is that, like, you stole this, Johnny Depp. Yes, but in a job, well, and in it, he was doing it to entertain a girl who was sad.

So the reason for doing it is similar to Benny and June, not to the chaplain original but burns's lawyer mentions the charlie chaplin he does because but that's why i think it's so funny it's both and i think fresh in your mind was this scene in benny and june which is in every commercial and trailer i mean we are bearing the lead here this is from the 1925 uh movie the gold rush with charlie chaplin i didn't get a really good one because it's a silent movie and uh yeah you're not gonna get anything out of that. And I like how the hired

goons, who are the goons who work for Mr. Burns as well, bend the fork and stomp on the potato. It's just, I think... It's like Crusher and Loblo or something. Due to us arguing over the reference, that's why I love it so much, because it's making fun of Benny and June. I know Benny and

June brought it into the zeitgeist, but throughout this whole episode, Grandpa is stealing bits from, like, turn-of-the-century comedians. I have a theory about why they keep doing this. I think it was, this episode is really good, but it is a late-season episode and it feels like we need five minutes

of references. So it has a lot that are kind of tacked on. And I feel like moments like that is Dave Merkin punishing the writers of just saying, you know what, you can't just make a reference. The reference police will show up

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Even though she subscribed to your podcast? Yes, look, I realized how stupid it was, okay i i was the coward my mom was visiting and i didn't tell her basically i ran the idea by her and i was like if i quit my job to do podcasting what would you think and she says i think you could make smart decisions and i trust you to do that and i was like okay i still won't tell you but you'll find out later when you're not here i guess my parents just don't ask me questions they don't understand what writing about video games is they don't understand what writing about video games is.

They don't understand what podcasting is. They just understand I can make a living off of it somehow. I haven't asked my parents for money in years, and I told them what it was, and they've never asked again. My parents are still asking the same two questions every time they call. How is your job going? And as long as I say okay and I don't need money, then they're fine. And what time is it over there?

Oh, my God, Dave. I was thinking that exactly still three hours ahead whenever my mom calls me I've been living here for six years what time is it there they're just so like amazed by the time difference it's great minus two three we're on the metric time system now

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So Jackie is saying she drove all of her friends crazy and she names three names. And I'm like, oh, those are all authors, and they're all so old. The joke is she knew a lot of other old people. That's what I thought, too. But it turns out, knowing who these people are now, they all had serious mental illness problems that led to their deaths in many cases. So Zelda Fitzgerald, F. Scott's wife, a writer of her own right, Frances Farmer, an actress and TV host. She also had some mental problems. They were both institutionalized.

And Sylvia Plath killed herself with an oven, with the gas from an oven. She was the writer of the Bell Jar. That's true. With a sign on her back that said, no funeral. As a very uncultured kid, when I first saw this scene at 13 or 14 years old, I was like,

those are funny old lady names. They still are. There's thousands of things that go over your head in this episode. I think potentially Sylvia Plath could have been Jackie's friend, but Zelda Fitzgerald and Frances Farmer were both born in the early 1900s, so they would have been much older than Jackie. That's true. By the time Jackie would have met them,

they would have, like, F. Scott Fitzgerald and Zelda would have been hanging out with Ernest Hemingway at that point and the but it's it's a great use of oldie time names I Francis Farmer was the one I had to look of this time I forgot her but that Zelda by the way guys you read her work because she's the inspiration for the Legend of Zelda I'm trying to get people to read in Japan Zelda Fitzgerald's name is Doki Doki Panic so look that one up it was a really cool article i read about how i didn't know that the great gatsby was a big hit in japan like it well it really came over there and uh haruki murakami who is popular over here uh he is a japanese

novelist who he is one of the people who localized great gatsby for his generation because he loves the great gatsby that much. So it's not surprising that if he's trying to find a name for a princess, Shigeru Miyamoto would pick Princess Zelda. Makes sense. Then Abe is really, he has some interesting feelings that he can't figure out. You're so sweet. I feel all funny. I'm in love.

No, wait. It's a stroke. No, wait. It is love. I'm in love. I love this. This is going into commercial, but I love this. This shot is awesome because Abe merges correctly.

He gets right on the freeway. They don't stop the ambulance to let him out either. According to the commentary, this scene went on for a lot longer with Grandpa ending up in a lot of things before he realized he was in love. Like, I'm in Texas. I'm in blank. I'm in love. Yeah.

That's cute. But I just like the ambulance guys tossing him out. And it's a nice callback to so many previous Simpsons. Smash cut to ambulance jokes. They love that. In Act 2, we finally get the B story of this episode. ambulance guys tossing him out and it's a nice callback to so many previous simpsons smash cut to ambulance jokes they they love that in act two we finally get the b story of this episode yeah and i forgot we have another uh another roger myers jr not voiced by alex rocco it is just one line so i get whether they can get alex rocco but it's it annoys me hearing hank azaria hello i'm troy mcclure you might remember me from such films as The Boat Jacking of Super Ship 79 and Hydro, The Man with the Hydraulic Arms.

Coming up this hour on the Impulse Buying Network, your chance to own a piece of itchy and scratchy. The Toontown twosome beloved by everyone, even cynical members of Generation X. Yeah. Groovy. I love that they stick with the Gen X. Yeah. Groovy. I love that they stick with the Gen X. That's their first swing at what will be the plot of Homer Palooza. That is the Homer Palooza kid. Somebody came up with a name for us.

We're Zillennial. I saw that. How do you say it? Zillennial. I've only seen it written two. Generation X with Millennials. X-E-N-N-E-N-I-L. I wanted a classification yeah it is the people

stuck in between gen x and millennial if you were born in between 80 and 85 i think is a classification i like the mtv generation i like that label yeah at least it was on there but so i love the image of bart in bed with the mini tv right next to him i did that a bunch of times like it was a great and just him staying up late to watch TV. My grandfather had a black and white projection-based Sony Watchman which I thought was the greatest invention ever because I could watch things in my hands.

Doesn't he have a TV on the counter in his room where he watched Tuesday Night Live with Christy? He did, yes. But that might be the rumpus room TV. Was that when he was sick? When he was brought upstairs? And then this is kind of a parody of selling Simpsons cells at High Markup, which was even a thing in 94. Yeah, and people who didn't know how animation worked would be like, oh, a cell. I'll get a nice drawing of Homer, but it'll just be like his muzzle or something like that, you know?

Yeah, and I'm not going to do it anymore, but I had a great time in my spare time recently trying to find animation sales on eBay. And it's really fun because you have to find the difference between the enormously expensive ones and the cheap ones. And part of that is there are thousands, thousands of animation sales for the worst show. But they're mostly an arm or they're a character looking away off screen or walking out of of door and it's half their body yeah you can get all that shit for like two dollars i i love the attainability of most cells yeah like you probably watched one saturday morning cartoon you liked as a kid that nobody gives a shit about and you can own one twenty and fourth of a second of it for under ten dollars yeah i. I was collecting them like this, this,

this show sucks. The fantastic four, but this painting of the thing rules. Now, if you want one from a classic Disney thing, you're paying $5,000. Unless you get one of like them exiting a room or something in between where they're just moving an arm. Well,

getting the background makes a big difference too. And I like that Russ Meyer shows the, uh, he, he shows, uh, the cell you think you're gonna get of like oh both characters in a key pose like and no it's something that would have one arm would just be that on the static background is itchy or scratchy not moving and so they can run different cell layer yeah exactly so and there have been tons of people who've probably been bought fake simpson cells or at a high markup or yeah there's a lot of stolen ones and they talk about on the commentary too that yeah there were tons stolen that mac raining was trying to tell them like watch these

cells are going to get taken and fox like who cares yeah as a little animation nerd it always annoyed me when people would buy cells or collect them. And then I'd look at them like, this is not a cell used in animation. This is a reproduction. It's like one of 1,000 identical things they made to give to you. But if you go to a Disney, I remember you would go to a Disney store and it's like, look, here's a cell of Bambi. Yeah. And there were tons of them. And like, none of those are real.

No, they're not real. They had only sold official real cells in Disneyland for a little bit and then stopped. I don't think they do it anymore. There was a story I heard like Kurt Russell as a kid. He just took home giant piles of cells and was like skating on them in his garage. I was like, this is fun. The story art. Yes.

I mean, you can't get Simpsons cells, but cells barely exist anymore anyway because the visual has taken over. Thanks to Keith. If you listened to the Rosebud episode, I said I was going to bid on a cell. I sent in a... I tried to lowball him. He said, fuck you, and didn't do it,

and then I didn't buy it. I'm just like, fuck it. I'm not going to pay for it. So our buddy Keith lowballed him even worse when the auction was ending, bought that cell for me, but because he's a patron, I'm like, I'm not taking any more money.

But he got a much better deal. So someday that cell is going to show up in our house. No pressure. It's got to be right there. Yeah, we got to stare at it. And so, yeah, then Bart steals Homer's credit card to order it. That is too much, by the way. I have never, ever paid the Simpson cell from Rosebud.

It was, I think, $200 at the most. And at $1994, $350 was really like $700 today. And there were like three characters in that cell, so that's pretty good for that much action in a cell. And then the joke of Homer and Bart stealing each other's things with a bump. That was just a sequel of the Boy Who Knew too much joke of them passing by each other. Yeah, expect them to have a fake mustache on. And just to rattle this off real quick, I'm going to go out of my way from here on out,

because this is when it starts, of Troy McClure calling in his movie title, seeing if I can find their reference material. The hydraulic arms guy, that's just a thing. Stop their octopus from the space. It's none of the boat jacking of Super Boat Whatever. Super Ship 79. As both entitle a parody of the hijacking of the Achille Laro. Wow.

And the final film in the airport series, the Concorde Ellipses, Airport 79. The finale of the dumbass airport movies. I really want to put a year on your movie title. It should be there forever. You can tell it's a 1970 in my movie. It has ellipses in it. You Europeans will know it as Airport 80 because you did not see it until a year later.

This is the first time I've seen Troy on the show since I've seen Doug McClure films and I never watched a whole one of them before but two of them are in this season of Mystery Science Theater 3000 in the new season and when I see him I'm like you are Troy McClure, Doug McClure. You are exactly

him. I had the exact same reaction as you henry like wow this is troy mcclure i'm watching a troy mcclure movie this is great and then doug mcclure both both the movies no matter what are the setting he's like i should be wearing a turtleneck maybe he was a little worried about it where his neck fat was and he's like no no i wear a turtleneck and uh yeah so yeah bart Homer's visor. Yeah, all those cards for Homer, it's something I get slightly sensitive about. I don't like when Homer's written as too sexual. Like that he's like bawdy or that he's...

Really into boobs. Yeah, that he's too horny. I don't like the horny. What was it, a federal breast inspector card? And what else was there? The federal breast inspector. Damn it, I should have written it down. I thought he was a butt guy

because he compliments Marge on her butt that won't quit. $5. Get out of here. You want to look it up? No, forget it. So yeah, he pays $350 for it. Meanwhile, Marge is trying to set up

a date and I... You know, Abe had a very nice time with you last Sunday. And meanwhile, Marge is trying to set up a date, and I – well, that's it. You know, Abe had a very nice time with you last Sunday. Hello, I love her. Grandpa, shh. I know my mother. If you come on too strong, she's going to get scared away.

I love you. What? I love you, Mom. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you, Mom.

Got to go. But with the way phones work, if Marge hangs up, Abe will still be on the phone. True. Because the line is still active. You should have called this clip, Chris tries to get a girlfriend. I love you. I love you. I love you.

I love you already. Come on, too strong. And, oh, yeah, right before that was the great, I love that drawing of the Simpsons in human style. It's almost King of the Hill. It really is. It's very close. And I like that Homer thinks they will be retroactively inbred. That should be the album picture.

I love that photo. It will be. I mean, okay, A, retroactively inbred. B, Abe and Jackie are not related to each other. So it's like I like the two levels it works on. And the damn, damn, damn opposed. I would wager to bet one of the first jokes about inbreeding on a network television show. It's true.

That is absolutely going to be the art that I like finally seeing. Like, where would the hairline be on Bart and Lisa? They look horrible as little pink realistic children. It is a mild depiction of what could have been with too much studio tailoring. And Marge and Abe are a great combo who barely work together much. It's something I liked in the Simpsons movie of her and Abe kind of have like a back and forth about the EPA thing. You're right. Yeah.

The EPA. Got to do that commentary, people, this month. We're hitting the 10-year anniversary. I think we have already done it. And the oh yeah so this is a long clip but I love all of this. One of my favorite

gags ever. Is this line in the show? It would be for me. I mean they punch a child in the face three times so. That's the joke. It's going to play it twice.

I'm looking for something else. Yeah, hi. I got a special delivery for Homer Simpson. That's me. Don't write no more letters to Mr. Sinatra. I've got a special delivery for Homer Simpson. That's me. Stop stealing golf balls from the driving range.

Homer Simpson, I've got a special delivery for you. Go away. Do not open the door, Mr. Simpson. I cannot give you your special delivery. Here's your special delivery. Thanks. That's for keeping me waiting. I was mad it wasn't the Bronson guy.

It's close enough. If you don't open the door, I cannot give you. It's such a good read. I'm going to pause it at your special delivery. It's so ominous, too, for no reason. It's my favorite bit from this episode. I just love that. And that they were clearly...

Don't write any more letters to Mr. Sinatra. Still alive. Sinatra would send a goon to your house, though. I like the Italian accent on that guy, too, to imply mafia. And they were so secure in the address of the house that it is 742 on the envelope. It also says do not roll. And as someone who has a few animation cells, it is infuriating.

I bought a DuckTales cell a couple years ago. That's probably the one I paid $70. I haggled with a dude at Comic-Con. It's bubbling. They're very sensitive pieces of material. It infuriates me that somebody rolled a cell, even if it was just an arm. I've shipped so many things in eBay that they make it, no matter how clear you make it, of like, do not ban, fragile.

They don't care. No one cares. Your postman does not care. I'm sorry. Ace Ventura, that shit down the road. When I taped this episode, I ended up doing it off of syndication, not first run. And I remember this entire sequence was cut out. And it's kind of for good reason.

Like, a boy getting punched three times in the face by adults. I think it's the longest gag you can remove without affecting any of the plot. Oh, yeah, because it just starts with, like, I got the cell now. It's like, if Bart has a cell, we understand that he got it in the mail. We don't need that being explained to us. And I like the opening of the tube from the inside and I know that excitement followed by disappointment

of buying something in the mail and it finally coming over a month later that you can't track online. You just ship it and hope it appears. Six to eight weeks from now. So yeah, the cell has 1F21, which is this episode's production number. Oh, that's fucking awesome.

And then Lisa judges it as not worth $350, which then leads to my favorite ha-ha ever. Yeesh, how much was it? $350. Ooh. Oh my

God, this boy is having an out-of-body experience. This is very bad for business. Nelson sensed that Bart needed to get owned across town. He left his body to do it. He went into a coma to get Bart dunked. The squishy was so powerful, he is astral projecting into Bart. And Apu is not concerned for his safety.

He's like, this is very bad for business. And then the description of a mule eating an apple. Like, ugh. Of Kiss. Kiss like a mule eating an apple. I do love the Play It Cool song, though. Just like, what you wanna do? I know.

It doesn't. But it has no direct connection to any one song. It's just something you'd see in. Well, in that film that was like a parody of old sex romps of the 50s. Down With Love, they basically have songs like this. And I love how Homer acts like demure, like hee hee hee hee hee

when Abe puts his arm around him. Yeah. It's really cute. I love them interacting like that. And why don't we go out on a break here with that song? Okay. And they really predict the revival of Swing with that, don't they?

Yep, all the cherry-popping daddies, the squirrel nut zippers. Timeless. And then it's a very weird transition from a nighttime date of Abe to Android's dungeon, clearly in the daytime. Yeah. androids dungeon clearly in the daytime yeah but it is this is one of the most accurate comic book guys ever because the job of a comic book shop clerk in pre-ebay days yeah was to tell you that something you had was worth nothing and that you thought like well it says collectible is like this is worth nothing i wouldn't pay a dollar for this i gotta get this just play that clip for me please okay is this cell worth anything?

Let me show you something. This. This is a snagglepuss drawn by Hick Heisler. It is worth something. This. This is an arm drawn by nobody. It is worth nothing. Can't you give me anything for it?

I can give you this telephone. It is shaped like Mary Worth. No groaning in my store. Please, give me the floor for just a minute. Okay. Because I went fucking crazy. Obviously, you know what we do. We look up every... One, that's a great appraisal of animation sales.

Like, that was a really good one. Totally. If the character's looking at the camera, it's like something you'd buy in stores, but it was actually a hand-drawn animation sale worth a lot of money. Snagglepuss, drawn by Hig Heisler. Of course, I'm going to look

this up and i do there is no google listing other than this joke some people say that's a real person other people say it's not i can't find a listing for any hold on i got it i have to sleep in you bob okay uh i i have i'm looking all over for this answer i dig out old animation books and look up into the appendices of books about hannah barbara to see if i can find this person i cannot some people again some people online say he's a real person some people say he's not i went in snagglepuss debuted in a yogi bear show i went and looked in the credits for mr higg heisler i found a hicks loki and a harvey eisenberg who did story, but no Higg Heisler. Several people said it's not a real person.

It's a name they made up. I found one conclusive confirmation proof that Higg Heisler exists. According to a post made on the No Homer site January 20, 2005, by a young man named Bob Servo, there's no joke. Higg Heisler was a cartoonist that worked for Hanna-Barbera. We're eating ourselves, Bobby! Oh, I was stupid then. On the commentary, Bill Oakley says that's a name we made up.

Yes. It just sounds like they're perfect for finding... Because of your... You threw me into more of a cycle by confirming... You're my research. I know so much more now. I can't go back and delete that post. But yeah, I mean... Bob, 12 years ago...

This took hours. I'm going through Yogi. I can't go back and delete that post. But yeah, I mean, this took hours. I'm going through Yogi Bear credits, people. Hick Heisler existed in a world where you could be named Isador or Ub and be an animator. It's like the perfect old-timey animator name. I love a good one-syllable old-timey name, a good Rex. Hick Heisler. It's a great Oakley Weinstein name they would make up. And it's from...

It's just that they don't do that normally in that case. It would have been a real person, according to my understanding of modern Simpsons references. Yes, they do that more now. It's kind of just Frizz Freeling, I think. Yeah, Keisler and Frizz Freeling. They sound very similar, yeah. I cannot... But you are the third or fourth Google result for that.

20 pages into a form thread. I have a lot of cranky, decade-old No Homers Club posts, so don't look at any of those. It's over a decade old under your same Twitter handle. I've had the same online handle for like 25 years now, so you can find me anywhere.

Did you know that's where I was going with this? No. Did you try and Google this? No, because I listened to the commentary, and they were like, oh, we made that name up.

God damn it. But that was a great search, Chris, that you found. It took you to Bob thank you Leonard Maltin for bothering to write about cartoons in the early 80s with Jerry Beck I mean it that's proof I've been a Simpsons nerd for this long

online being cranky well I was sad that was a really good delivery by a comic book guy but he didn't say dollars which is my favorite thing says I I love his new greeting image stew and a dump I love comic strips. That was my gateway into comic books. And my city had the awful ones.

I asked my grandparents to save it because they had other fun stuff that we didn't. But because they lived in an old folks village, they also had the Merry Words and Prince Valiance. Rex Morgan, M.D. Rex Morgan, M.D. Brenda Starr. And the Merry Worth phone, though, it has to be worth something to somebody. It's got to be worth more than that cell. But yeah, Meriworth.

It's a really good joke. It's literally a functional phone. It has some worth. It's in 1994. But Meriworth is the longest running soap opera comic. It started in 1938. It's still being made. Somebody out there is still reading Meriworth.

If so, God help you. See? Now you don't feel stupid about starting a Simpsons podcast. Someone's writing Meriworth. Someone's reading Meriworth. It's even worse. I like to think we're the Leonard feel stupid about starting a Simpsons podcast. Someone's writing Mary Worth. Someone's reading Mary Worth. It's even worse. I like to think we're the Leonard Maltons of our generation with this podcast. I shouldn't overshadow that.

He is one of the first people to write in depth and do a shitload of research, and I love that his young child assistant is Jerry Beck, arguably one of the leading. The guy's like 60, Chris. This book is from like 81. You're right. In like 81 in the 70s, Leonard Moulton was the only guy to like bring that shit together

with the help of Jerry Beck. He's not even credited on the cover. Look up cartoonresearch.com. Yes, it's amazing. It's the newest, best, fuck animation, whatever it's called. Cartoon Brew? Cartoon Brew, yeah.

Fuck that stuff. Go to Cartoon Research. No, it sucks. The guy who runs it's an idiot. Then we cut to basically a Glenn Miller-style band playing Jacqueline Bouvier's favorite song, which is also the Glenn Miller's big hit, Moonlight Serenade. Let's hear it.

You gotta watch it. It's very weird. When I looked up this clip, I just comments of oh bioshock for some people their only frame of reference for glenn miller and arty shaw is bioshock it is a it is a beautiful old song i love it i get you gotta dance with your best gal to this i got satellite radio like 10 years ago and i put on this station when my grandfather was still alive and he was just kind of losing it and he just started bawling so like so like when you get nostalgic he's like no one's played this music for me for fucking 50 years on a less touching

note just imagine how many of your grandmother's asses were grabbed how many boobs were groped to this song just think about it your grandma A lot of furious petting happening in between shore leave outfits. This was popularized in 1939. Now, in my research, though, I came across, I did not know there was a lyric version of this. What? But there is. And let me. You can't do that, Ella Fitzgerald.

So here's the lyrical version, one of my favorite versions I found, sang by the immeasurable Ella Fitzgerald. A moonlight serenade. The stars are aglow. I don't know. That's just pretty. Very pretty. I guess it's not that weird. We do have people like Brental Floss just coming up with original lyrics,

as long as it has existed for years. Now, that's Ella Fitzgerald, not Jacqueline Bouvier's friend, Zelda Fitzgerald. Zelda Fitzgerald. And the band playing is Red Breen and his band of some esteem, a parody of Les Brown and his band of renown, a famous band leader. Whoa. And get this.

Les Brown's grandson is Jeff Swampy Marsh, creator of whatever that cartoon is I just forgot the name of with the platypus and the two kids with the triangle heads on Disney Channel, help me out here there you go and he also wrote A Rocker's Modern Life and Spongebob so Jeff Swampy Marsh is Les Brown's grandson

I had no clue, well another animation connection there and then Abe's about to make his move and then burns with more energy than he's ever had i think he got one of those revitalization treatments from the springfield files it just happened to him he just got out of the woods and dressed up and put into this place but i'm mainlining viagra though they they later imply that like wait burns can't have any woman he wants. Why would he be with an old woman or go after an old woman?

Even a weird joke later on that acknowledges this. Yeah, I know. I mean, this is the one bit of this episode I don't like. I felt like this should have been introduced earlier, like in Act 1, where Burns is like, Smithers, I want to find a woman or something like that. And it sets up that Smithers is mad at him for doing this. But he just appears in Act 2, and this just starts. Well, you've got to be shocked by Burns' arrival,

him horning in there. And I liked him saying, like, Blue and Gasket Charlie. And that his dance animation is great, but it completely breaks the rules of how good the energy level of Burns, but that is the joke that Burns is going to answer. Yeah, he's acting very unusual.

And the song is Sing, Sing, Sing with a Swing, made in 1936 by Louis Prima, but it's mostly known for the Benny Goodman instrumental version, and there is a clip of that. How is it below this one? I thought I had a clip of it. Maybe I don't.

I don't think you do. I mean, we don't need it. me give it to you let's grow up all the way actually no i guess not never mind i mean fake put it in you can plug it yeah i'll just plug it okay just assume we came back from that song i i like that abe i liked abe's frowning reaction that that's how he's trying to do it, and then his reaction to it failing, too. The frowning of a lifetime. That is the reaction of many wallflowers, of just like, oh, I'm just going to frown at this person.

That'll do it. They'll stop dancing and acknowledge me. They'll stop having fun and acknowledge how unhappy I am. And that's when Burns reveals that he is literally Satan. I swear, Monty, you are the devil himself. Who told you? Yes,

I'd say you're an angel, but angels don't dance like that. That would have been my runner-up for line of the show. But Mr. Burns credits his long life to Satan. He couldn't be Satan. Who told you? It implies it's an accusation he's so used to hearing, and maybe he's used all of his money to scrub out the perception of Satan.

That's true. I like that reading of it, Chris. I love that line reading so much. And it's nice. They don't do enough with it in this episode, but the nice line reading of Smith is going, just that he doesn't like, he's clearly seen multiple women

enter Burns' life and he hates it. I wish they would have done more with that. Yeah, that he's mad jealous of a 90-year-old woman. Just like, and that him later seeing him and marge united and not liking it is is a really it's a cute moment and uh then comes another great moment a much more audio friendly moment of copyright infringement good night moubier, wherever you are. Mr. Simpson, I represent the estate of Jimmy Durante.

I have a court order demanding an immediate halt to this unauthorized imitation. Boys! Well, would it be all right with you if I just laid down in the street and died? Yes, that would be acceptable. So before you explain the reference, can you play the Jimmy Durante clip? And now, folks, that's it for Broadway.

Good night to all of you. And good night, Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are. It's the same spotlights and everything. Yeah, and he was wearing the same clothing as Jimmy Durante, the fedora and the trench coat. And it just goes

over his head. Loud clapping. So yeah, that was, Mrs. Calabash was the nickname for Jimmy Durante's late wife. And he would sign off by saying, you know, goodbye to you wherever you are and he called her that because uh her last her last days were spent in calabasas california so that was that was his

way of being a manly man but still a code to like here's my dead wife shout out to dead wives everywhere i got how would oakley and weinstein have seen this show i mean this this is a reference that people knew about it would 1958 i guess, short-lived television show from former movie star Jimmy Durante. I mean, this actually started on the radio, and he would sign off on the radio, and then it turned into the TV show. So this visual reference was in their heads. I never knew this until you just played it. Yeah, I mean, I knew it was Jimmy Durante because of what they say. I didn't know where it came from, but there's your answer.

Those guys loved television history. And also, I mean, they lived in L.A. They could go to the literal museum of television history and watch those clips i'm sure they went there a lot in this era it's got to feel weird for abe to lose his girlfriend to his old subordinate from the flying hellfish yes we don't know that yet which he forgets i mean we don't remember that yet they're there that should be in the back of his mind the whole time like boy that taunting man I gotta This is gonna get in the way of it

Just like in Mars Gets a Job Burns is reinvigorated by being in love And this scene reminds me a lot of that I like this scene a lot more though I love the way he dances in place Is so funny Oh yeah Smithers guess what happened to me last night I don't know sir

You had sex with that old woman She said no to me Do you know how many women have said happened to me last night? I don't know, sir. You had sex with that old woman. She said no to me. Do you know how many women have said no to me? 130, but only one since I've become a billionaire. And she's the one for me. I'm in love. Whoop-de-doo, sir. Yes, whoop-de-doo.

Whoop-de-doo to the world. Whoop-de-doo, Mr. Florist. Whoop-de-doo, Mr. Physical Trainer. Whoop-de-doo, Mr. President. I'm happy you finally found love. Whoop-de-doo, Tarantula Town. Whoop-de-doo Mr. Physical Trainer Whoop-de-doo Mr. President I'm happy you finally found love Whoop-de-doo Tarantula Town Whoop-de-doo

Employees Everyone who's found true love May leave early today That one guy Can't even lie to himself Just go home early Pretend you found true love Go to a bar and drink alone

I was disappointed Looking into my favorite line From that That there is no such thing as Tarantula Town. I wanted there to be an awful toy play set. Tarantula Town. Tarantula Town. I love this detail.

It's a one-second joke that would be so easy to cut, but I love it if just that... When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. We care about you.

Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Care, care. Did I mention that we care? Burns owns pet tarantulas that he keeps. He also owns Bill Clinton.

Yes, but he could have, with his money, he could have a giant tarantula thing. It's a child's tarantula. I still want the scariest pet in the entire world, and I want to confine them to the smallest thing possible. Give them a little city to live in. It's so great that he loves it and it's just such a great one-off. Then he wants to write a mash note, which

is slang for a love letter from the late 1800s. It's a mash note. Smithers' sadness and Burns' complete ignorance to it is beautiful too. He's just like, hmm. As Smithers is bawling his eyes out and has to leave the room, he's like, hmm. He's too in love, and he also doesn't care about Smithers.

Yes, and then this feels like a real Oakley Weinstein callback to classic things. They remember Smithers tells Burns who the Simpsons are, but then this time Smithers tells him the wrong thing. But you need to note, it's a funny joke either way, but to note that history makes this even better. Dad says this new guy is a repulsive, obnoxious old billionaire. So let's all be extra nice to him. Ah! You know, fly, it's, it's, uh, oh, it's it's uh oh it's uh why it's fred flintstone and his lovely wife wilma oh and this must be little pebbles

mind if i come in i brought chocolates so doing this episode, sorry, doing this series now, I realize just two episodes ago, Burns was in their house and Bart was his heir. And for some reason as a kid and even as an adult watching this, I never question it.

Like, why doesn't Burns know who they are? They don't call attention to the show themselves and the show itself. The same way I didn't ask why Elmer Fudd, you know that rabbit is going to slap you and kick you in the dick for seven minutes. But it's just so great they can get away with it without having to explain it. It still gets to operate on cartoon logic.

The weirder thing about that is that he gives the chocolates to the family of the person he's dating and not the person he's dating. I guess, you know, it's an old-timey thing. But it's a heart. Why would you give that to... I love you, family. Yeah, well, it seems strange that he'd even spend... Burns would even spend money or care to. Like, he's a bit of a skinflint. I like that Marge immediately hates Burns,

and as she should. He's an awful, awful, awful man. I guess if he makes Mom happy, that's all that really matters. That's right, money. Your money's happiness is all that money. Once again, Homer wants all of Mr. Burns'

money, just like in Burns' air. But he won't get it anyway. But then Burns shares a lengthy scene with Bart where it never comes up that two episodes ago he adopted Bart, and then Bart almost killed him it never comes up that two episodes ago he adopted Bart. And then Bart almost killed him. Yeah.

Never comes up. And it's just a cute Mexican standoff with the water guns filled with mustard and ketchup. I like when Marge comes in the room. They have the guns at each other's heads. It's a really cool pose. Otherwise known as chicken tonight. That's what's in it. And I like the bit of Burns calling his bluff.

And then Bart's like, okay. With the mustard. Then he gives him the money. That seems what's in the book. And that I like the bit of Burns calling his bluff and then Bart's like, okay. With the mustard. Then he gives him the money? That seems a little bit off. Well, he'll get shot more if he doesn't. Yeah, you gotta hit him with the ketchup first. He's already got a big yellow streak on it. You can explain the smell of ketchup. Mustard is something you can't be explained away.

And it's a very quick Oh yeah, then there's a quick bit about them hiring a stripper and a cake, which I had never heard of before as a kid. I mean, very soon I'd see Under Siege and understand the idea of a stripper and a cake. Yeah, as a kid, even then, I didn't realize the cake they jumped out of wasn't real. So I was like, how do they get into a cake? I don't understand. But it's like, no, it's just a cardboard thing shaped like a cake.

Pre-puberty, why ruin all that cake with a naked lady? Well, it does seem like bullshit. It's just like, okay, you're popping out of a fake cake. Like, I want a real cake with a stripper in it. It's disappointing otherwise. And then there's a Luigi joke, which, again,

shows they were writing this, like, right after Sweet Seed War. Yeah, I have to apologize. I thought Luigi appeared twice with the same joke. It's actually three times in this series and this one's not even tip yeah it's not even the best joke that luigi's ever had she calls he calls jackie a dried up zombie yes he's captured it's super insulting yeah i love it not one of those wet zombies and uh yeah then bart they finally finish the storyline of Bart giving back the money to Homer, which Homer did not miss and will immediately

waste. Yeah. Dad, I'm really sorry, but I charged $350 on your credit card. What? Don't worry, here's the cash. Woohoo! $350! Now I can buy 70 transcripts of Nightline! Oh well. He's happy. I'm gonna keep this Mary Worth phone right here. Now I can buy 70 transcripts of Nightline. The dad.

Oh, well. He's happy. I'm going to keep this Mary Worth phone right here. Her stern but sensible face will remind me never to do anything so stupid again. Hey, Bart. You want to go play with that x-ray machine in the abandoned hospital? Sure. That's great.

I like how the A plot resolves the B plot. It's very clean that way. Those are the best episodes of The Simpsons where the A plot and B plot can intermingle and solve one another and do it very quickly, too, with the cell.

Bart's rid of the cell. The Meriworth phone comes back. Yeah. It all ties together. It's really good. I just remember as a case of emergency break-up in class,

it might have been this episode that I always had the ability to steal my parents credit card and do something like this i couldn't believe it when i saw it because like i always knew i could have done that but i would never dare do it and then bar paid him back i don't know i'm i like seeing that now i do remember even before this episode like i don't know why i would watch things like nightline or like what choice did you have yeah well I'd watch 2020 because TGIF would go straight into it. And they would always say at the end to get a transcript of this program, send money to the network. They still do that, by the way. I looked this up.

On CNN.com, you can look up transcripts of all of their news shows. I don't know why you wouldn't – For free or for money? For free. Well, I think they used – it's one of those things to weed out people who aren't serious. And also the same way, like, we were talking about paying for Carson clips. That's how Johnny Carson's estate makes money, by charging for archival footage. But, like, yeah.

I guess if you're going to quote this Anderson Cooper 360 report, it's right here. Yeah, it's right here. Yeah. And I do remember this in all PBS stuff. For a lot of money too Did we do the math on this? Well that's $5 a thing 70 Nightline transcripts for $350

What we're all missing is How can Nightline exist in the world with Smartline in it? Come on people I like that even more That would mean that Kent Brockman Brazenly stole the name of Nightline Also I like to think that Milhouse Inviting Bart to go play with an x-ray machine Rockman brazenly stole the name of Nightline. Also, I like to think that Milhouse inviting Bart to go play with an X-ray machine is a it's calling ahead to Fallout Boy.

Oh, right. Yes, yeah. That is the origin of Fallout Boy. Though actually not the origin of Fallout Boy in the Simpsons comics, which I'll get to that someday, perhaps. But yeah, then Mrs. Bouvier Burns asks her to marry him and she swallows a diamond

I did want to look this up like in 60% of the cases of swallowing a diamond there is no real damage to you but you have a 40% chance that it will cause internal bleeding and maybe even kill you remember a couple things happened my dog loved to chew the backs of earrings.

And several times I had to go to the hospital for internal bleeding. Because it's swallowing a jagged thing. Yes, yeah. You swallow jagged metal and see how much you don't bleed in your stomach. This might actually be my favorite joke, but it's not a line. It's just the unacknowledged crack of the knee. It is so fucking funny. Immediately after dancing, Burns has to stick his hand in a boiling

chafing dish just to dig the other ring out. He's like, well, there must be other rings. I bought more than one diamond ring. That was a really big diamond that Jacqueline drinks to. She chokes on it. If it's that big to choke on it, her throat is bleeding.

She's definitely bleeding. That's going to hurt come winter. Asking to marry her. My darling, since my kneecaps are filling with fluid as we speak, I'll be brief. Will you marry me? No. Mom, you can't marry Mr. Burns. He's an evil man.

Evil schmivel march. Monty can provide for me. Besides, he's a evil man. Evil shmevo march. Not he can provide for me. Besides, he's a great kisser. Yuck! What about Abe Simpson? Don't you have any feelings for him? Oh, he's a dear, but he's too much of an old fusspot. We're all aware of Grandpa's problems,

but compared to Mr. Burns, he's Judge freaking Reinhold. I don't know who that is. All right, let's get into this joke. I believe Henry explained this to me earlier. We talk a lot about The Simpsons in our regular lives, and we were talking about this joke one day at our old job, and I think Henry, I was like, what does this joke mean? I never knew what it meant outside of Jackie didn't know who the person was. And I think, Henry, you said this is a joke that would be on a sitcom.

But the joke is, like, instead of laughing or there being laughter, Jackie's just like, I don't know what you're talking about. Like, what is that? What do you think it is? No, I totally think that's it. I mean, this would have been on Seinfeld.

It would have been on any number of cheers. Like, compared to him, he's Hillary Clinton. It's probably a gag on like that's a very old timey sitcom line and by the time you would hear it in reruns it wouldn't make any sense to you and judge reinhold is i don't think it's a slam on him no i mean he's pretty popular it's just like any name judge reinhold was not known for being a nice boyfriend or a bad boyfriend exactly like he was just like i don't i mean it's just a random name they pull out as a topical reference i think it's a clever skewing skewering of that type of joke on a sitcom i think the later better joke is like

those writers make me madder than a yak and heat well the it also feels like reference punishment just like the other two jokes i'm just like he's better than that like well this old woman wouldn't know who you're talking about i want our commenters to tell us, what do you think this joke means? We get a lot of great interpretations. I always thought it was like Grandpa's a stud. Like he's a handsome guy like Judge Reinhold is, right? I mean, according to your perception, Dave, and I don't want to change that at all. You keep loving Judge Reinhold. He was slanted and vice versa.

He was sexy as shit and vice versa. Yeah. And I love that smash cut to marge saying no it's so good when she'd be saying yes that kind of pacing is so outlandish for television at this point like i can't stop i can't stop being in awe of it in 1993 and a condom joke is very it's a little weak but i it is funny how abe says it the latex condo again i'm 14 years old when this episode's out like i don't really know what a condom is it would have been the first time I saw a condom or the first time I saw a bong on The Simpsons. Well, they wouldn't air.

I remember there was a sitcom on TV where they talked about condoms and they didn't air it on network. It was like, no, no, no. This is too... It was that show where characters from the 1950s lived next door to people in the now and the 90s. Is that I, Honey, Am Home? Yes. I brushed right over it. Melrose Place was ending and it was

supposed to be the first gay kiss on television and they bowed to advertiser and affiliate pressure and fade to black before it happens. Or cut to a reaction from somebody looking at them in the window. This is our lifetime. We won't stand by

and let this run on Kentucky Fox. It'll destroy America. In Jacksonville, Florida, they wouldn't air NYPD Blue for three seasons because, like, this is too dirty. And then they finally did, like, an apology video of, like, well, not an apology, but saying, we don't like that we're showing this, but we're finally doing it. Fine. Here it is. But don't let kids watch this. Finally see Dennis Franz's ass.

I know you've been waiting for this. And then I love the sign gag of private wedding. Please worship elsewhere. No, it's weird that Barney, what's Barney doing at that wedding? I don't know. I guess, well, as a seat filler is what his job is. Free booze. Yeah, reception.

He's there for the reception. Free booze. I think it's homer probably got like two or three pity invites like okay you can bring people so you don't mess up the rest of the as far as the show the chronology the show goes grandpa barney might be the the person barney's on the longest considering how long him and homer have been friends that's true yeah friends for 20 years at this point didn't uh abe serve with... Actually, they both served with him. Ah, so there we go.

It's the Hellfish connection. I mean, the writers didn't know that yet. It's wrapped up in a tiny little package. And yeah, then Burns... When Burns should be on his best behavior, he is the worst groom ever. Right at the finish line. And to Hazar on the occasion of their matrimony,

much in the same... We've heard enough about Blizz Blazz and him matrimony. Much in the same... We've heard enough about Blizz Blazz and him-him already. Get to the bloody point. Do you, Charles Montgomery Burns, take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife? I do. The ring, you little imbecile. Before I really lose my temper.

Oh! I know, I know. I requested no romantic music. Just that kick in Bart's butt. I'm just like, that's so mean. Yes, it was. In this scene is where Lovejoy says, Jacqueline Abouvie.

And the Bible quote is not real, but it's convincing enough that it sounds like an Old Testament story. I remember it from Virtual Springfield. The Lovejoy joke with his voice is that he endlessly says, blank, begat, blank, begat, blank, begat, blank, which is, I believe, how the New Testament starts just to show Jesus' connection to Abraham, I believe it is. But just that it's

an odd thing that Lovejoy is really into the lineage, or like who married who, or who met who, but all that please, blaze, and he, him. And yes, then we get to the ending, which is very

out of nowhere. I mean, The Graduate is sort of timeless in its own way. I don't think people will forget about it. Within two or three years of this, Wayne's World 2, yeah. Do you, Jacqueline Bouvier, take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband?

Oh, not my favorite song. I specifically requested no romantic music. What? Mrs. Boomy Eye! Mrs. Boomy Eye! Mrs. Boomy Eye!

Honey, are you sure you want to be Mrs. Montgomery Burns? Wouldn't you rather be Mrs. Abraham J. Simpson? No. No. I don't want to be Mrs. Abraham J. Simpson. No. I don't want to be either. Hatsikitydam! That's good enough for me! Abel settled for that. And I have a clip of the actual graduate clip that they're parodying.

The very famous clip. Elon! Elon! Who's that guy? What's he doing? We're good. Take care of him. He's too late. Somebody check. Is that stuff okay?

I feel like I don't see him anymore. I'm worried about him. You have that theory about a lot of people. Some people just don't want to be in the public spotlight anymore. I looked him up. He's still acting. He's still in a couple things a year. But growing up, he was like...

He was fucking Bette Midler in one of the Fokker movies. That was 10 years ago. That was 10 years ago. But he was one of the biggest stars ever, Dustin Hoffman. He'll be in Dirty Grandpa 2. Don't worry. Maybe he's just going to the stage. But it's been a long time since I've seen The Graduate.

I only watched it because every goddamn thing referenced it in the 90s. Like this show, Wayne's World 2, and also the Gary Shandling show they had on Anne Bancroft. And Lisa Substitute with Dustin Hoffman in it. Mrs. Krabappel, you're trying to seduce me. I mean, I watched it about 10 years ago just to get all the references I'd seen before. It's a great film. It's great, but I don't know if anyone identifies with Benjamin, the main character, anymore because he sucks. Halfway through the movie, he just becomes a crazy stalker.

This is true, but I think that is revealed in the ending. His reality unfolds before the audience in the ending that is also parodied here. But, I mean, I think people identify with him uh a lot that character that's why they like the movie but i don't know if you can watch that movie like that anymore i will say the movie defends itself by showing that ending as they both come to the realization of what they've done this grand romantic gesture brought upon by lust and uh young testosterone like oh fuck we actually have to do this sound of silence it was they play the sound of silence yeah but they play the sound of silence yeah but it's like what what the director intends for the audience to get what the audience actually

gets is a different story which is why racists like the movie american history x yeah yeah the most racist kids in my high school love that movie but i i think the ending is really bold in the graduate that it is saying that like all this was for nothing and you you don't have the burden of watching these people as they try and make it work right yeah it was mike nichols directed it and it was the he was showing like if i had cut 30 seconds earlier you'd just have created a happy ending but to show this uncomfortableness of them dealing with their decision to have a hollywood ending yeah you're then like oh this is weird i think it's technically crazy like that he did that no it's a great it was a landmark comedy film which is why so many sitcom writers

of the 90s and 80s did a ton of jokes yeah and to both the bob and like the parodies of the graduate graduate usually come from someone interrupting the wedding successfully yeah not and only the simpsons i'd seen like did the long unflinching look of the what do we do now also that fall should have killed Grandpa. It lands on broken glass. It's a very rubber band reality of this episode where Mr. Burns can both dance like a maniac and have his knee hurt for just kneeling for five seconds.

That Abe can fall that much and not die. I really like the animation of Way's face splats on the ground. It's three seconds of creativity. And because of how much I watch this in Wayne's World 2, it creates the constant confusion of what... I get confused about where Simpsons jokes appear, but I like, did Wayne

Campbell fall out of the window? I think Grandpa was the only one who fell out of the window. I know, but I can build that in my mind. I'm not sure which joke is which. Because in Wayne's World 2, he goes to the wrong church, interrupts the wrong wedding. That's why you don't see plexiglass in front of the organs anymore. It's what I loved in the

It's Gary Shandling Show parody of it that he meets the guy who is, who for one brief scene in The Graduate is the landlord for Dustin Hoffman but he was more famous as the replacement for Mr.

pre-Mr. Furley on three's company. So when he's in Gary Shambling show, he actually was like, well, I don't really want to make it three's company reference. Like, no, no,

no. I was in the graduate watch. I'm in one scene. I'm in the movie. Is that Norman fell? Yes. Norman fell as Zeus. And yeah,

then we go out the show and this episode go out on a sound of silence parody. I love it. The sound of grandpa second parody by kip lennon and the third covers i guess you go the third cover song with that and raindrops from dufflis oh yeah that's true yeah he did the cheers parody i was and i had written down and the softball parody i forgot that was the artist they the simpsons did the artist to cover his own song for that episode getting kip lennon is so great that he was hired as Michael Jackson's guy,

and then they just kept calling him when they needed a song. He's a good singer. A song from a Dustin Hoffman movie, and Dustin Hoffman was with Michael Jackson in Itchy and Scratchy. Whoa. It's all connected. What a connection. We just red-pilled the shit of this entire program.

Now I hate women. And Oakley and Weinstein said that this song is like an ASCAP song that they wrote, so they've gotten like loudly pennies off of this song. And no one at all can stand the sound of Grandpa. And hopefully you can stand the sound of us. We're Talking Simpsons, everybody. Thanks for listening. Yes. I have been your host.

Before I talk about that, what do we think about this episode? I'm sorry I cut us off too fast you found a good segue into the outro it's bizarrely except for the next episode really one of the more cartoony and outlandish Simpsons episodes that there have been so far yeah I like this one a lot

it is a funny story of old people falling in love but the biggest knock I'll give against it for being an all time great is that it is kind of there's filler reference jokes. They're funny, but they're still like, well, this is just filler. This is just to kill time. You're just saying that because you're doing The Critic now and you know how much they do movie references.

And the animation cell of B-Story was a really good B-Story. One of my favorites in the series. Yeah, I think the B-Story stuff really raised this episode for me because I remember as a kid like this is just a story of old people and like I don't really know my grandparents all that well because they all

lived in Ireland so it's just like well I'm just old people I just enjoyed the animation so I just enjoyed jokes about the expensive old people yes in hindsight I enjoyed that a lot but

I think I probably was turned off by it as a young kid yeah didn't get half of the references in this episode oh wait we explained them of the references in this episode. We explained them all to you on this episode of Talking Simplified. Thanks for listening, everybody.

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on every week and we also do have tons of movie commentaries there probably nothing as old as The Graduate but we will at this point is the 10th anniversary of The Simpsons I want it

because we're recording a little advance I want to make sure we fucking do that oh we will so much fun I love I think the movie is fantastic I will read my original review. I think the movie is fantastic. I will read my

original review of it on the air. I wrote for a college newspaper. A Kent Stater IPA in the movie. And if you're craving more margin aid

since an interaction, it's in that movie. So, as I mentioned before. It really is. Thank you for listening. We'll be back next week with Secrets of a

Successful Marriage. See you then. Wow. Infotainment.