Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Large Marge
Episode Date: August 9, 2023This week's well-endowed episode sees us exploring one of the horniest episodes of Simpsons ever with Large Marge. After accidentally getting cosmetic surgery, Marge has a chest expansion that gets a ...lot of attention. After the show finds every possible joke they can about Marge's honkers, we then learn there are downsides to it, plus the confusing return of Stampy and Adam West to the show, some Hollywood lore on Burt Ward, and lots of immature giggling on this chesty podcast! Support this podcast and get over 150 bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!
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tons more. I heartily endorse this event or product. chronological exploration of the Simpsons, who is here with me today as always. It's Henry Gilbert, also known as El Homo.
And this week's episode is Large Marge.
My surgery was botched.
Botched? What is that, the word of the day?
You had no right to make my bosom this ample.
This episode originally aired on November 24th, 2002, just in time for Thanksgiving.
And as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history.
Oh my God!
Oh boy, Bobby!
President Bush signs the Homeland Security Act into law.
Courage the Cowardly Dog airs its final episode.
And this very horny day, the terrible video game BMx triple x is released oh dear oh dear yeah it's
one of the worst games released by a major studio maybe ever it's except the guy game one which
actually included underage girls topless that's true yes which they didn't intentionally do that
but it totally fits for this era of the simpsons this is them sort of
engaging with girls gone wild style content here at least with marge flashing her mcgumbos
everybody vmx triple x in case you don't know it was originally supposed to be dave mira triple x
and they were going to adapt the dave mira extreme bike game into being horny but instead they decided we'll take his name off
it and it'll be filled with topless bicyclists and a bunch of very ribald jokes and of course
tons of pimps jokes as well because it's 2002 and if you did really good at it you might get to watch
10 seconds of strippers performing in front of the camera you know i was working in
video game retail at this time and nobody at least when i was there ever souped to purchase this game
i think they were too ashamed to bring something with three x's to the counter this type of game
came too early for it being able to be sold online so people can have their anonymous perversity if
this had been a digital only release maybe they would have sold a few more.
There have been far dirtier games
since it released online, for sure.
But I also recall one of the strangest things was that,
at least based on reviews at the time,
that the Nintendo GameCube version
was the dirtiest version of it.
Like, it had the most nudity in it.
It was on the GameCube?
It was released on the GameCube, yeah. Friends rented it for a laugh, it it was on the gamecube it was released on the game yeah friends
rented it for a laugh but it was quite quite shitty apparently there was nipples were less
censored on the gamecube version but the mix of horny and funny as seen this episode it makes me
uncomfortable yeah homeland security act that's where we get the terror alert levels which is
forever you know frozen in amber in every episode of american dad it's still
on it to this day obviously we heard about it a lot the joke in american dad was that it never
goes down you're never going to be told to relax about terrorism it's just about always being
always being scared and of course the expansion of a police state for sure and things that don't
make you safer but do make you more miserable like there's
obviously a homeland security act isn't going to stop you from the thing that kills you all the
time in america which is mass shootings of course not gonna help there i mean not even considering
what this does for the rest of the world this combined with the patriot act made all of our
lives i would say at least 48 more annoying yeah in terms of, you need this special sticker on your ID, you need
to fill out these three extra forms whenever you do
anything, you need three forms of ID
to do this one thing. I feel like it just made
everything more miserable for all of us.
And then, thinking about then, you know,
other countries and what we did to them based on
these things, well, that's off the table for now.
How does this annoy me is what I'm thinking of.
How does it impact my life? Yeah.
I had to spend a whole day.
The amount of money you need to get the known traveler number to fly without having to take off your shoes and belt.
It's hard to go back after you.
Because of all things in America, if you're white at least, you can buy your way out of this and not actually have to do TSA torture.
Surely someone who paid $80 would not blow up a plane.
That's all you have to do.
And Courage the Cowardly Dog, it actually did have an intentional final episode that did
kind of like wrap up things in a
happy way or happier way.
It's actually a very dark show. We talked a good deal
about that on our What a Cartoon episode
about Courage the Cowardly Dog. And didn't you team up
with Scooby-Doo 20 years later? Don't you have
a DVD on your shelf behind me here?
I think I bought it for like $5 of Scoobyoby-doo meets the courage the cowardly dog right if not is that
over there is that i'm getting it i'm getting it i've got it in my hands uh henry has not watched
it yet still in the shrink wrap yes yeah straight out of nowhere scooby-doo meets courage the
cowardly dog i mean i was happy to see that courage got to come back and they hired the creator of courage to work on it i think it's insane that they had that a crossover original
movie of scooby-doo and courage and sold but then again scooby-doo has quite a direct to dvd life
he's they're hanging out with wrestlers right the pro wrestlers yeah they solved a mystery with them
they also well so the pro wrestlers got to meet the characters from Surf's Up, which made no sense.
Ten years after Surf's Up, Surf's Up 2 is them meeting all the pro wrestlers.
And Surf's Up is not Happy Feet, just so you know.
It's not.
It's a different Penguin movie.
And they're not the Penguins from Madagascar either.
God, there's too many.
All thanks to that March of the Penguins documentary.
But that's what happened when this dirty, dirty episode that we would not make a guest watch
happened this week.
Our special guest today is no one because you probably heard us talk about this.
Henry and I are moving to different locations.
And because of that, we're banking a lot of episodes.
And it goes a little faster if we don't have to find a guest.
And that's why we chose Large Marge to be a guestless episode.
It's also very filthy.
We don't want to talk about boobies
shamefully with a guest to make them have to say hey what do you think of marge's rack in this
episode my first question watching it was just like where was matt craning where was he to stop
this from happening well i heard the commentary before i came over here and they were concerned
that james l brooks wouldn't like this but it passed his
approval at least i guess it was fine it was fine by him so it went yeah on the air i mean when i
was trying to chart like what was the previous like marge episode like she had not had a dedicated
one like i guess technically you could count half decent proposal as a marge episode because it is about she's
having trouble sleeping and then she's gonna go on a date with arty to get money for surgery for
homer and all that compared to that one that it is will marge be unfaithful this one is like how
does marge deal with having big boobs i don't know it makes me actually prefer later in this season
the other body transformation, that
at least it seems to come from a better place of Marge.
It's not an accident that it happens.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This also, we've talked about it on season 14, especially.
We're seeing the effect of Al Jean having watched these episodes again, the early episodes,
doing commentary.
So that's why we're getting the return to Adam West.
We're getting, oh, right.
We used to write songs.
Let's write a new song.
There are several jokes in this that feel like him trying to bring back the type of jokes that he used to do.
Like he's rediscovering how their old, like, recipes are like, oh, wait, you know what? We used to bake a cake like this.
Let's add this back again.
I mean, on the horny level, this is horny, though.
We are doing season four Futurama right now, which is hornier than this.
But this is pretty horny for Simpsons.
And Groening is not on the commentary.
We've heard him on many commentaries say he does not like big boob jokes.
Silverman, I think he talks about on the commentary that they're usually given the notes of tone
down the boobs because the comment usually
is animators love drawing big boobs on the characters and they're told not to you know
it's hard to tell if this is supposed to be titillating because it's not really working on
me because the rest of marge is so bizarre and cartoonish that when you put giant realistic
breasts on her i'm not sure what i'm supposed to be feeling here now with amy and lila they're more
attractive characters in a traditional sense so i can see like i can see somebody
finding it sexy to see them like uh wrestling in their battle bikinis or whatever but here it's
like well you have giant breasts but you also have march simpson's head on them it's the hair
is so big yeah you even even with her magumbos you can't look that close at it and this is an
ian maxto gram one which i believe
is another reason when i learned his name as a writer why i thought he was the guy who ruined
the simpsons just seeing this on a list he already wrote alone again natural diddly which is death
penalty to me as far as a simpsons fan was back then parody parody joking but then to see this
as well as like oh and he wrote the episode
about marge having large breasts like this guy sucks he's apparently been very active in the
simpsons picket lines at the time as the very tall man easy to point out i saw that he donated
some vintage cells to an auction on behalf of the wga so i don't want to be too negative about old ian he also is the guy
who in that interview said that you don't necessarily need women in a writer's room
back then that's what he said then but he didn't say it's on the record well i do want to say that
he has written a few good episodes burns baby burns the city of new york versus homer simpson
the trouble with trillions lisa gets an a and then the beavis and butthead movie i forgot the
recent one it was based off an initial idea he had that's right it's him and his brother yeah i think
so yeah i don't want to be too mean he was public enemy number one for simpsons fans at a certain
time after mike scully left the show all the targets landed on ian well obviously we weren't
mad at the time that in that interview he said, you know, do we need women in the writer's room?
We were mad that he said, I believe he said these beetle-browed men at home complaining about Simpsons.
Yeah.
His explanation for coming up with the episode is just that he's like, well, you know, in Hollywood, women get breast augmentation all the time.
And so we thought it'd be funny if it happened to Mars.
It'd be funny if men told you how they would feel about this.
Their idea of how a woman would react to it is just like well it would make her husband happy
and she'd be appealing to men this is entirely about how men react to marge's adjusted breasts
i feel like they got one note from somebody of like hey i've heard that big boobs actually are
physically uncomfortable for some women to have i feel that mar would choose to wear different
clothing also if if uh she does she's got these breast implants by accident she doesn't want
people to see them i would take off the sleeveless dress yes yeah once she has d cup boobs like she
should not be wearing her standard dress all the time i agree and yeah i think oh it's funny too
that reardon this was my other last like pre-show note was that reardon isn't on the commentary because he's working on
a thing they can't name which is wreck it ralph oh it's wreck it ralph okay because this would
be 2010 so he's off of newt and wreck it ralph comes out in late 2012 i was just thinking that
recently because that was the last time i went to and
it wasn't a real viewing in san francisco there's the walt disney family museum bob's actually been
to it i've not been to it it was where they hosted the mixer after the press screening for wrecking
ralph in our area that i got to go to and i was just thinking like that was 11 years ago now wait so you went to the
screening of the movie but not the mixer afterwards no I went to the mixer afterwards but it was just
in one specific room I didn't explore the rest of the museum were you allowed to you know a couple
people did I did want to I got to interview Rich Moore so I didn't make the time this was also
before I was a Disneyland aficionado okay like. But that was a fun night because they also had a real fake but real arcade cabinet of Fix-It Felix Jr. there too that you could play.
Well, in order for you to have an authentic opinion about that movie, you needed to go to that mixer and get treated like a king and get to explore a museum for free.
That's the only way you could have an unbiased opinion on Wreck-It Ralph.
We gave it a big high opinion, though. I did ask the annoying question of like, but Zangief's in the villain group and Zangief's
not a villain.
And the screenwriter was like, I know.
Everybody tells me he's not a bad guy.
It should have been M. Bison.
Rich Moore appreciated it that I recognized Jim Reardon's name in the credits.
But anyway, so he's working on it.
And I also, for the first time, I retweeted it recently when we're recording this.
Jim Reardon's other student short got posted on Twitter.
It's called Ouchless.
And it's not as memorable as Bring Me the Head of Charlie Brown.
Yeah, I watched it.
I watched it.
It was fun.
For a college student-made video in 1986 in 1986 in cal arts i think it looks pretty
good if you want to hear andrew stanton screaming yes there's a lot of it in that short it's funny
yeah andrew stanton's the screaming and rich moore gets a thank you on it so he must have helped in
some way but i also saw is it tony fuchile or fusile in the credits oh yeah he was there too
yeah and i believe like sarge norton or morton from the simpsons is also in the credits i hear
his name come up on commentaries because his name is sarge it's easy to understand that's right
yeah i missed that if i have a complaint about this episode which isn't the animation or i think
it's the plotting that i would swap positions i think bart's story is strong enough to be the a
story and marge's story can be the b story. Yeah, I totally agree with you because there's only so many big booby jokes they can do.
One of my favorite jokes in this episode is about how many jokes they write around saying
you have a large chest, Marge.
This is really an episode about pitching jokes.
What more jokes can be made about having large boobs?
Was this the era where breasts peaked?
No pun intended.
Because soon after it'd be all about butts are we still talking about breasts i mean i think people like breasts
just fine i still feel like we're in the ass era for sure yeah well i mean the jokes are about
eating ass not um titty fucking sorry dear lord things here sorry i heard children fall asleep to this podcast but yes butt stuff are the
jokes of the day i feel in horniness i don't feel like the youth i mean i'm sure the youth on twitter
the the people in their 20s they appreciate large boobs as much as anyone but it doesn't feel the
same i don't think no yeah i think everyone getting horny over Christina Hendricks on Mad Men, they were
in their 30s.
They were behind the curve or whatever you want to call it.
Yeah, was that the last large chested celebrity that people really got into in a sexy manner?
I really think so.
I'm sure people in the comments will let us know, but I feel like she was the last actress
mostly known for that, which did annoy her.
Yeah, yeah.
I comedically va- va boomed at her
name when we talked about in toy story 4 but yes i feel bad for the good actress who happened to
get large breasts i thought of one more i got my finger on the tip of the breast news here
it took me a while to put that together but sydney sweeney has gigantic breasts and she's known for
them she's from that euphoria show and she's a big
star okay now i remember hearing i'm just google her safe search not not my type by the way uh yeah
well she is definitely not she's playing a high schooler she is not a high schooler doing nude
scenes but like for me at my age when i see attractive men or even somebody's told me,
oh, don't you think this guy's hot?
If they're under 30, I do feel like, eh, I don't know.
They look like a child to me.
It feels weird.
Well, now we're just talking about women's bodies.
But I'm also thinking like, oh, yeah, wasn't Scarlett Johansson known?
Like, oh, she's got big boobs.
But I feel like that really gets downplayed lately.
At least those aren't the kind of roles she's in anymore.
But I feel like she was like a chesty star of this era oh sure 20 years ago i think 15 years
ago even i mean when she first played black widow that's why i think she was cast in the part but
now black widow is dead and she doesn't do that type of thing anymore i mean yeah i'm trying to
think of the ladies that get cast in marvel shows or the current crop of Marvel women.
Not to say they aren't attractive.
They are very beautiful women, but I don't think they are picked for their voluptuous figure or their outfits, too, are not designed to accentuate the curves necessarily.
But it also is about, you know, not objectifying women and having female stars of
tea i mean definitely in the marvel world it's about objectifying men like there was a time i
don't think they do it as much anymore but every thor movie has to have at least one beefcake shot
of chris hemsworth oh absolutely yeah i can tell you how we progress as a society because if you look at
this time period you will see who is going to play laura croft well the biggest slaminist knockers in
town angelina jolie that's who's going to play laura croft who is playing her in the 2010s alicia
vikander her breasts are much smaller than that i i feel like that's the direction we're going and i
feel gross saying this but it's true she she has a more lithe uh body yes exactly there you go she's part of the itty bitty titty
committee as they would say this is a filthy episode guys we just talked for two hours before
this podcast about something much worse so we're really wound up on this podcast here yeah yeah but
you're right as far as mainstream american beauty standards go this is today doesn't feel as breast driven as it did back then which i well because this episode ends with a
flashing this is the girls gone wild era which was entirely about yeah show me where babies feed
to quote the wonderful doug stanhope uh yeah i guess the one way people are into large breasts these days are
the concept of MILFs.
There's no non-voluptuous
MILFs out there in terms of how
certain women are categorized.
Jennifer Coolidge, the queen
of the MILFs, she is in the
Marge territory, I would say.
Have we lost everyone?
I apologize
deeply, but I mean, yes, this kind of body type uh is in fashion in 2002
i think is what we're saying yeah i think it's what we're saying yeah no i mean it is the girls
gone wild era stuff and it's all about boobs back then i think things have changed a little bit from
now i mean you know there's also like i think of back then. This is one last thing I'm trying to think about, like the hot ladies I was aware of back then and how things have changed.
Like She-Hulk's one of my favorite Marvel characters.
And she's often used as like one of the sexiest Marvel characters.
When she did a sexy thing in the new She-Hulk MCU show, it is her twerking.
And the joke is like She-Hulk twerking with Megan Thee Stallion?
That's crazy
but her twerking i was like okay that is just driving home more butt stuff and also giant woman
stuff step on me mommy type thing all right that's where we are in mainstream american sexuality i
think these days well we just saw who framed roger rabbit and by the way i think this episode has a
reference to it we'll get to it though.
And Jessica Rabbit is mostly breasts.
We're not really looking at her butt.
I only noticed in that camping short they did,
she's walking away in a sexy way in little shorts.
It's like, oh, that's the one time you're like,
oh, she's got a butt too.
Finally, they're objectifying her butt as well as her chest.
Come on guys, what are you doing?
You're wasting half of your screen here
without objectifying her behind
that's i guess that's what we're saying is like now we can objectify every part of the woman
yes it's not wasted effort here it's a more holistic vision of objectifying women than just
objectifying just their chest we're two guys talking about how women are objectified one of us
is straight so well hey i'd love to see some comments on this
about how they feel about this era of female objectification what marge represents in it in
in this episode so we begin with an etch a sketch couch gag except that's called sketch
sketch etched legally distinct and but speaking of things that are actually the correct logo
when they're watching the history channel that's just the history channel logo like they called somebody and got permission for that
this was the era in which actual history was on the history channel though but i'm surprised they
didn't make it into like oh it's all about hitler on this channel that's was the standard joke back
then and this uh around the same time uh to let you know that History Channel meant regular dad viewing. It was
the recurring thing on Sopranos that when Tony Soprano would relax at night, he'd put on the
History Channel, though it usually was World War II stuff. This is World War II adjacent with
Truman. This is about the 1948 election. And now I'm looking at the schedule for the History Channel and it's mostly Pawn Stars.
Oh boy.
And Pawn Stars spinoffs.
I guess all the people who cared about watching World War II stuff, they're dead now or out
of the demographic.
Like now you want to watch Pawn Stars.
Oh, sorry.
I was misreading the titles as different shows.
It's all Pawn Stars.
Oh, so it's just Pawn Stars with like different episode titles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cable is truly dying.
Every cable channel is one TV show now.
If you stay up late enough, you can watch episodes of a different show about Skinwalker Ranch,
but you have to first absorb 18 hours of Pawn Stars.
Did everybody make fun of their Aliens or Reels shows so much that they stopped doing them?
Is that what happened to the History Channel?
Maybe, maybe.
As they're watching the History Channel, this is when they're talking about one of the most famous things in american presidential history dewey defeats truman which was printed
as the headline by the chicago daily tribune about the very tight race they of course were a
favorable to the republicans newspaper at the time and they were predicting that truman would not only lose but he'd also lose his uh the houses too the democrats
would lose the congress i think i saw i mean you see parodies of this a lot but especially in 2016
when hillary clinton lost to donald trump i think i saw a lot of political cartoons it was like a
free political cartoon of the day we jumped on on that pretty quickly, which is also funny, too, because then the next election after that is an entire week of, I think, Biden won.
Do you think?
I don't know.
It was on the Krusty Gets Busted episode where that day we learned that Biden actually won when we recorded that.
Yeah, I forgot that it was the word contested i want to
use or yeah well i mean it was a very slow count back then in 2020 but yeah so everybody thought
that truman who was somewhat unpopular would lose to dewey uh who was the governor of new york and
the quote or the wiki page for this truman as it turned out won the electoral vote 303 to 189 to 39 because he was also up against
the Dixie Crab Party and Strom Thurmond who got the 39 votes and though swings this is funny it
actually was closer than that sounds swings of less than one percent of the popular vote in Ohio
Illinois and California would have produced a Dewey victory. So despite the headline making it look like, oh, Dewey blew it,
it sounds like it was actually extremely close in.
We're not used to California being a battleground state,
but 80 years ago it was.
Dewey lost, and he is the second most losing
major party presidential candidate.
Williams Jenning Bryan is the first most,
who was just talked about in the previous
episode of the series that we did yeah yeah and you know what they even in the accuracy of the
simpsons they get the sub headline right too which uh i did see that yeah i just i'm impressed by the
authenticity there i'll tell you what i don't like homer saying who's your daddy like even with the
joke of he's the father and he's saying it and doesn't realize
that that's a gross thing to say to your own daughter is i still don't like any time hearing
who's your daddy like no yeah homer thinks he can go back in time to stop the inauguration
i love that like oh but if i could stop it but this is when homer learns once again he has to
do something for his daughter which is horrendous he'd never want, he has to do something for his daughter, which is horrendous.
He'd never want to do this.
To do anything Lisa wants to do, awful.
We just talked about this about a month ago in How I Spent My Stormer Vacation,
where Lisa's like, you do lots of things for me, Dad, and you deserve a big, nice vacation away from us.
Instead, in this case, she has to win a bet against Homer to then force him to do it,
which is to do homes for the homeless or domiciles for the destitute.
They use both of their different phrasing to mean habitat for humanity.
It's funny.
I think different sitcoms are landing on this around the same time because the previous
holiday season, King of the Hill did the episode, I think it's called The Father, the Son, and
JC, in which Hank Hill takes part in one of these programs and jimmy carter is there and it
feels like they wrote the episode for jimmy carter to be on it but it ends up being dave herman doing
the voice i do like that jimmy carter gives up and he's like well i can't even help this guy but
yeah hated a baby it must be that these news stories about jimmy carter you know helping in habitat for
humanity which he was doing up until he got rather sick where this is two months early we're recording
this guys so look we don't know where who's to say even bill clinton is still alive when this
episode comes out one of the funniest political pictures ever is when biden got his picture taken
with jimmy carter and his wife and because of the perspective he looks like he's 35 feet tall because he's standing next to
two little shriveled old people in giant chairs and he's just huge he's a young man of like 80
compared to them isn't it crazy how close he is in age to the guy who was president like before we
were born yes it shouldn't be that way like are also that trump and
biden are both older than george w bush now or he currently is not when he became president but
right now he would be a younger president than either of those guys when gen xers are 80 we're
going to get our first gen xer president and by the way it is donald trump's birthday today he's 77
what a birthday oh i did everything right
and they gave me a birthday party sorry but you know where we are in time maybe he's in jail now
maybe he's in jail and bill clinton not who knows i firmly have the belief that most presidents
should be in jail if people want to complain like hey joe biden did all these things put him in jail
too let's let's just go for it
put well if you put obama in jail we're gonna miss out on all those great documentaries he's making
oh sure we can't have that and podcasts i need to know what he thinks of meeting the common man
and meeting a highly paid executive at a bank we're all the same aren't we in a way it's all
purple america really it's just america whether you're okay but anyway so homer
they then cut to them at domiciles for the destitute speaking of all these ex-presidents
we have a joke that now they're all getting in on it and i think this is adr where she
it should be self-evident we're looking at hw and clinton but she says and look there's bush
senior and bill clinton and Bill Clinton and even Jimmy Carter himself
which is just like we know this we we can see it and she just said Jimmy Carter they chose the
perfect living presidents to be these characters because I guess the joke is that when Bush senior
gets whacked his hair flies forward which makes him look like Moe and that's what starts the
entire thing and then Clinton is curly and then then jimmy carter is larry
which they give him red hair i love it at first i thought it was they were off model but it really
was jim reardon who is a supervising director so he must really like this episode to pick this to
be the one he does the season apparently he was a big fan of the three stooges and this is well
done a three stooges stick with characters who done a three stooges shtick with characters who are altered
just about five to ten percent from their usual look in the simpsons to match with their analogs
in the three stooges the way bill clinton curly goes like yeah with his hand just uh why like
basically it talked to the hand he also does a thing where he like rubs his face like in anger like it's both really good then we get i don't dislike this joke because of the word homo in it what i dislike is
homer shouldn't know that bart is el barto yeah yeah and i also feel like homer shouldn't
understand what he wrote he should be like thank you so much sir and then they go to a new scene
the fact that he realizes what he put on the house
i think that's a bad move for this joke yeah it's funnier it's at the very least if you're
gonna go with el homo and have a very effeminate man say if only i had your courage senor to then
have homer reactive like gay panic like obvious gay panic that's not as funny as him going like see lisa he understands like
instead it's him painting it out but i guess if he didn't feverishly paint it out then paint
wouldn't fall on his wedding band it's very important that paint it's plot relevant and
homer is wearing his workout clothes which is his like jay leno denim outfit really this is when we
enter cougar town this is an important moment for the show, I didn't realize,
because it's not her first appearance,
but this is the new era of Cookie Quan in the show.
Are you sure we'll find husbands here?
Absolutely.
These volunteer events are crawling with the successful single men we deserve.
And how.
Let's see what we've got.
Well, he's not much to look at.
But he is a good father.
Hello! Wedding ring tan line.
He's new on the market.
Can I help you?
Maybe. I'm Lindsay Nagel,
and I don't want to spend another fiscal year alone.
Cookie Kwan, realtor.
Number one on the west side.
I could move you into a beautiful new home.
Mine.
Sign here, sign here, kiss me here, initial there.
Yeah, I was looking this up, Henry.
But actually, I don't want to steal your fire.
So why is this important for Cookie Kwan this episode?
Well, because this is her second real appearance since Realty Bites.
But this is the first time she has partnered with Lindsay Nagle and that they are
written as desperate professional single women in the need for love yeah and I'm looking at her
appearances she's in so many episodes after this in a spoken role and yes she is the only real
Asian female representation in the show and I don't think she's been recast yet I don't think
she's been given need to speak i will
say when i heard her talk here i was like they turned down her accent five percent from realty
bites i think but obviously it's not good that tress mcneil's voicing her it was a different
time blah blah blah but it's not good i'm glad i hope if cookie kwan ever talks again that she is
recast yeah and it's odd that realty bites is such a weirdly important
episode we get gill and cookie kwan from that episode yeah isn't that nuts it's like gill comes
back pretty fast but they leave cookie alone for so long and she's not used as a dating prospect
before either but i think they realize like they've already had lindsey nagle up here a few
times as like she's somebody's date on a first date of like oh this date's going poorly or whatever and it's because
she's too professional these women too professional but she needs a wingman it's fun to have her work
off of cookie kwan as they're both desperate single woman looking for available men they make
it clear they are not physically attracted to homer but he seems to
be a hard-working professional who does take care of his daughter which is an in for them yeah he's
a family man and he but it's cougars looking for a single man she also seems to really cookie seems
to injure nagel once he tosses her out of the way we got to another thing that aljean loves dunking
on his favorite employer disney you mean the show's never been better under Disney, right?
It's now better than ever.
This is when it was bad.
And yeah, of course, if you don't know what Radio Disney was, it was the bottom basement of kid-friendly radio.
And it only existed thanks to the monolithic Disney Corporation buying ABC and ending up with a radio network in the 90s.
And this really feels like parents who had to listen to this crap grinding their axes.
The Disney Channel Radio, sorry, Radio Disney started in 96. It only just recently shut down
on April 14th, 2021, because radio is that dead that Disney won't even bother with it.
Even they're like, eh, this doesn't make it. I mean, children, I would doubt,
listen to Radio Disney anymore. They might listen to a Disney playlist on Spotify.
I saw that the news story on it shutting down was,
we're going to focus on Disney Plus.
And two years after that, they're pulling back everything from Disney Plus.
They just shot Willow behind the barn.
Contractually, Willow did not exist.
He no longer exists.
Tell the tax people Willow died on his way home.
This is another very funny bit once you listen to the commentary.
You're listening to Radio Disney.
The songs you love rewritten for babies.
Who let the milk out?
Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.
Dad let the milk out.
Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.
That's good satire.
It doesn't hurt anyone.
What do you think, Maggie? Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. That's good satire. It doesn't hurt anyone. What do you think, Maggie?
Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.
Look, there's your father.
Oh.
Yeah.
Well, I've read enough articles about flirting to know it when I see it.
What is this commentary thing well i miss it doesn't he seem
a little bashful about getting the actual baja men to cover this song like i say hey g l isn't
this the baja man he's like uh uh yeah yes it is like that's funny because they come back in season
15 to sing who wants a haircut i don't know why
he doesn't tell the story of how it happened like i wanted to hear i assume that they wrote a parody
of who let the dogs out which is very corny to do in 2002 but that when they went to license it from
the baja men that i would assume then the baja men or their manager said hey can we just be in the
simpsons these guys would love to be in the
simpsons so they agree to it but al like just kind of giggles of like uh yeah maybe in 2011
or whatever he's kind of ashamed of having worked with the baja men i mean look it's incredibly
corny to have the baja men on here i like that they agreed to be in on the joke of making fun
of their song i guess then over the
credits they sing marge let her jugs out yeah don't don't don't don't you know i could not
fucking believe they were over the credit some bahaman info for you guys out there they've been
around in some form since 1977 and then their bout with popularity happened with their grammy
award-winning cover of who let the dogs out that's right it's a cover
of the 1998 song doggy by the trinidadian artist anselm douglas and according to him the song has
a feminist theme that's cool i would have guessed before that the dogs might be referring to women
but the dogs are referring to men who are poorly behaved at parties yes according
to the original song people are having fun at a club and then the guys start dissing the women
the women respond who let the dogs out and they're referring to the men that's great yeah i'm glad to
have that recontextualization i was so sick of this song and even a joke about it i was sick of
this song by late 2002 it became one of those trailer songs too
right in every trailer and i still feel like i hear it in every trailer this is a slight
complaint thing here but there's a new ryan reynolds movie about talking dogs or some
bullshit oh boy and it's every obvious joke you can see and they say the f word like a talking
dog squares like and i swear who let the dogs
out is in that trailer.
And now there's going to be an R rated Genndy Tartakovsky dirty dog movie as well called
Fixed that just got announced.
I've had enough of these dirty dog movies.
I'll give Fixed a shot because it's Genndy.
But still, that's crazy.
The Genndy movie looks like it might be 2D based on the one image I've seen.
It does at least look like that
but even the cast is like adam divine interselba katherine hahn this is the cast who stars in
movies like this now but i gotta look up the name of that other dog movie i'm gonna tell you right
now ryan reynolds is not in it okay we looked it up the name of the movie strays and bob was right
that it's not right i think i was getting confused with Will Ferrell is the main dog in it, Reggie.
You want to know how outrageous this movie is?
The official trailer is called Strays.
Official fucking trailer.
Whoa.
But the F word is start out because they can't actually put that on YouTube and it would
affect SEO, you see.
So, yeah.
I saw the filthy trailer in theater.
Again, it's a good cast. got will ferrell yeah will forte i like him i like harvey guillen but i do feel like
you don't need josh gad in these movies anymore why is he in this or rob wriggle like what what
is this a movie from 2013 with josh gad and rob wriggle i'm seeing brett gellman i do love brett
gellman i'm glad i've
now watched all stranger things because it's nutty to me that brett gellman my beloved alternative
comedy figure is now very famous as the funny bald guy in stranger things good for him he came
a long way from eagle heart to doing a podcast where he pretends to be james gandolfini to
stranger things he can do whatever he wants now after that.
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That's my main point.
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at patreon.com slash talking simpsons. but i also like that for the voice of radio disney it's tres mcneil just doing what she
does when she's hired for disney to do ads like that one it just sounds like babs bunny to me
oh yes yeah it does sound like that oh and magg, like Marge thinks this is good satire.
Even Maggie hates the song coming out of it.
I also like when Marge makes the mistake of thinking it's flirting.
She only thinks that's because she's read articles, not that she knows flirting.
And it turns out the Homer is just showing the women how Marge gave birth to Bart,
which involves a lot of flexing.
That's kind of funny. The fact that Lindsay and Cookie are happy about it they're like oh all right like
that makes it extra funny though of course in continuity we know that Homer barely made it in
time for Bart's birth and didn't see any of this kind of stuff he was too busy getting hired at
the power plant in that episode this is when marge
confronts homer this also feels very much husband written comedy here are you as attracted to me as
you were when we first met sure why not oh boy yeah and i like the instruction that homer says
why have purino when i have fancy feast at home he really should say sir lloyd or something better
he's just like no you're just another type of cat food to me homer clearly prefers one type of cat
food yes but to him all women are cat food and then also marge is trying to get homer to have
sex with her but he falls asleep as usual i do kind of like though it's at least a novel change
that marge could confront homer with i saw you flirting with these women and I'm
mad but they just instead have it slightly more realistic that Marge just kind of buries it and
turns it into self-hatred and being disappointed in herself I mean if you even overlook the whole
booby angle of this episode I feel like it's so cruel to Marge that it makes her so self-conscious
that she has to get surgery.
And then she has to humiliate herself publicly.
It feels like this episode is so mean to Marge.
Yes.
Even when she enjoys having large breasts, they have to immediately torture her for that.
And then the lesson learned at the end is like Homer is still as attracted to her as she was before her bigger boobs.
Like being in things that feels like them relearning stuff yeah yeah we go through the floorboards to this bottom floor of the house and there's little
dinosaur eggs hatching which is cute again i think it's aljean remembering that oh we used to do that
when we made transitions to another room we used to actually go through the floor and show you stuff
it feels entirely intentional from doing commentaries. It's like, wait, wait, we should do this again.
And this next scene, the way it starts, I think Milhouse could be about to reveal any
type of dark truth or traumatic thing in it, though.
And our friend Drew Mackey's video recounting every LGBTQ scene in The Simpsons, that this
is included because it does feel like Milhouse is trying to come out to bart and bart
refuses it he's like oh what's on tv and they do it again after this too i mean i think it's a funny
straight guy construction that like bart is the straight friend who's like i don't want to hear
that you're gay millhouse like don't tell me this i need to i put a sock in it i think he's heard
enough dark confessions from millhouse yeah there's non gay reasons millhouse would be crying at school all of which bart as a 10 year old boy would not
want to interact with so the next bit this was a clever idea i feel could have been a whole episode
of they do their spin on jackass except instead of making it a jackass type show they connected
to the stuff of their childhood which was batman the adam west series
from 1966 yeah i totally forgot about the jackass element until i watched this episode but it really
does place it in time written in late 2001 jackass still on tv so yeah and everybody is troubled by
i mean i can attest me and my rowdy pals were jackass viewers and did imitate things from jackass because they're extremely imitatable.
Like the show should be called Monkey See, Monkey Do.
I mean, I removed myself from a friend group because they became jackasses.
They were trying to pull you into the jackass world, Bob.
You're right to refuse.
I would not be there, Steve-O.
Well, because everybody's like
come on we're all just having fun here almost die that's not how i broke my arm but it was with that
same group of people that my arm broke as well but they were also imitating things on tv uh yes
ultimate fighting championship instead in that case hey my left arm better than ever right now
but anyway yes they much like us though in our childhood the kids discover the batman
but remember when i was crying at recess i think i'm finally ready to tell you why
let's see what's on tv i stick my neck out for no one frankenstein no one Mmm! Oh, cool! The old Batman show!
Struggling in vain?
Gather your wits, old chum.
We seem to have fallen prey to that painted Pagliacci of perfidy.
You mean clown face?
None other.
Well, if it isn't Batmensch and the Goy Wonder.
Sweet Valley High!
Krusty played a Batman
villain? Well, sure.
He was also Uncle Velderschmoyk on Bewitched.
I want to see that
Bewitched parody too.
We say it a lot, but Dana Gould.
He's in there, yes. We could even
just make that assumption but also
selman tells the story on a commentary about a running gag dana gould would do with a writer's
room yeah and apparently he knew adam west i'm not surprised at all no hey if i was dana gould
i'd befriend adam west too but it's fun to hear this because we just covered look well about a
month ago and he's back 10 years later and making fun of his old role.
So hey, good for him.
Yeah, it's fun that they have Adam West back for a second time.
But this is their first with Burt Ward.
So several things are interesting to me about this.
One, they did not make this a parody of Batman.
This is them just writing a scene of Batman.
Like this is more fan fiction except official.
And they get Burt Ward and adam west to reprise their
characters and they get to use all the official music because aljean has said in the past not on
this commentary that fox tells them use the batman theme because we own it so it's technically free
to put in the show so they include it for free in this now this is interesting time in the relationship of burt
ward and adam west oh really because they would appear separately at stuff at some signings and
they recorded this separately but there was a bit of a burt ward adam west feud going on now let me
guess is it because he wrote that memoir it's bur Burt Ward's memoir. Okay. Yes, yes. So Ward and West, they have an on-again, off-again friendship for years.
In the 90s, as the series is getting a new lease on life,
thanks part to the Michael Keaton Batman show making the reruns more popular again,
that's why we as kids got to watch it,
Burt Ward writes a tell-all that's full of, you know,
dirty secrets from the filming of the thing.
And also it's like, if you think Adam West didn't have a big career after Batman, Burt Ward, even less so.
And so Burt Ward tells multiple stories in his 95 autobiography that are complaining about Adam West or making fun of him.
One of his stories is that when Burt Ward gets married he wants Adam West to be there and he says that
Adam West like charges him an appearance fee and leaves early and shows up late and says that he's
a jerk and Adam West hated that book said it was full of lies and for years would not even make
appearances and things if someplace got Burt Ward Adam West wasn't going to be there and eventually
I remember this because in the aughts somebody said like wow they're't going to be there and eventually i remember this because
in the aughts somebody said like wow they're both going to be at a signing together i thought they
hated each other and then the person who was telling the story revealed oh they had a giant
wall between them and two separate lines basically though then funny enough after adam west passes
away who's the first guy doing interviews about his wonderful
friendship with adam west and what great pals they were why it's burt ward burt ward i recommend you
look up his dog food in the packaging it will give you a headache oh i haven't seen this it's
a visual nightmare it looks like you're looking at a regular bag of dog food except you've had
three tabs of acid well that sounds like a fun bag of dog it's
not it starts talking to you also it's funny i learned about how much the batman show influenced
simpsons writers and we talked about it a bit in look well i recently read a 2009 interview with
george meyer and he mentions that one of his first things in moving to hollywood was he was honored
to get to meet and interview or to chat with Lorenzo Semple Jr.,
who was a key writer on the Batman series.
He wrote like the first four episodes and said he was like how we would be talking to George Meyer.
He made it sound like he was that kind of super fan talking to Lorenzo Semple Jr.
That guy also wrote Three Days of the Condor and Pretty Poison.
Oh, cool.
Yeah. There's some great stories on the
commentary where aljean talks about being in on the ground floor when batman started airing he
said it started airing when he was in kindergarten and it was every kid was obsessed with it that is
the perfect i am jealous he ought to be there when the spider-man was brand new and when the batman
series just debuted i just saw al jean well again to date this legendary
spider-man artist john ramita just passed away jazzy john first reply i see to the official
news about that from his son john ramita jr is al jean replying saying like your father was one of
the greatest and a great guy like l he's a real comic nerd i'll always appreciate that about l as far
as a parody goes like i guess technically clown face seems like an extra parody of like on batman
there'd be silly villains played by guest stars but they would not be explicitly jewish like how
crusty is in this i suppose it's also funny that batman has the joker but there's also a guy named
clown face yeah that is a good joke.
He says, what in the name of the Hunter Brinkley Report, which was a news show on at the time.
No one remembers Huntley Brinkley compared to Walter Cronkite.
Here I just trashed Burt Ward a ton, but I'll give him credit.
He does a good job of sounding like himself from 35 years earlier.
Another negative I'll say on this episode though
is this is the last production season 13 when they're airing that means i think aljean had way
too much time to reconsider dialogue too much bad adr in this one yeah i noticed that it's over
so they get strapped to this carousel right and then it starts spinning and then there's a shot
of crusty like dancing with glee as the thing is spinning he's like boy this is taking a long time right
yeah it feels like it's adr because they realize like oh the shot goes on for a while i feel like
they should have done a parody of will the caped crusader be spun to death like next time they did
not do the same bad time same bad channel thing they then could have cut like oh man we'll
have to wait till part two oh it's on right now like there's a joke you could do but instead we
get to hear just a little bit more of uh weston ward as well as dan castellaneta doing a great
chief o'hara holy g-force batman the blood's rushing to my head that That's right, my panicky chum. In a few moments, you and I will literally blush ourselves to death.
Oh, my.
This is taking a long time.
Cool.
We should try that at school.
Hey, yeah.
You can try it on me.
Batman got out of it okay.
Faith and Bagura, Batman.
How did you ever escape?
Fortunately, I always carry my carousel reversal spray.
What don't you have in that belt?
Patience.
For harlequin hoodlums like yourself.
Truer words were never spoken, Crusader.
If they wanted to razz Batman, they'd say, what don't you have in that belt?
But did they let Batman get the last line with a classic
batmanism like that that shows you they love batman and they're not making fun of it yeah i
wish there was more of this in the show it's just so fun and he wouldn't do this again now there are
two animated movies where adam west and burt ward and several other actors come back to voice it for
you know in the last years of their life i've been meaning to watch it especially to see
the two-face one where william shatner plays two-face as he would have done in the 60s if he
had been given the chance carousel reversal spray that's basically the bat shark repellent joke
there and they decide they're going to imitate it now though it's time to cut to manjula the
hateful wife like like you said her character has completely changed yes boy this
stinks because it's jan hook's last appearance as manjula no explanation why i think they're
even surprised on the commentary like oh is that jan hooks and i was like oh yeah it's her last
appearance i feel like there's something being unsaid there but also manjula has a right to be
upset with apu but they got over it but yes now on, she is defined as the hateful wife.
But then she's like, oh, Apu cheated on me because of me.
I was getting fat and ugly.
You're right.
So if you don't want to be a fat, ugly bitch, Marge, go get surgery.
It's ugly.
It's hateful.
I don't like this part at all.
And again, it's Jan Hook's last appearance as his character.
It's her telling Marge, you're a fucking fat, ugly lady.
It's also funny to hear that they're shocked at Jan Hooks
because we still have the central Jan Hooks mystery
of the Apu cheating episode,
which is the deleted scenes have Jan Hooks in it.
So for some reason she was re-recorded.
Oh yeah, that's right.
The sweetest Apu, right?
Yeah.
She voiced Mandrulaula but she's not
in the finished episode it's tress it makes me think that perhaps there was some day where she
just said i quit this show i'm out of here and it just feels like something about it got deleted
with malice i don't know like everybody loves jan hooks i don't want to make assumptions of
that they had a bad time with a woman who's no longer with us like that'd be depressing but
i would just like some answers aljean like just tell us it's just ugly i'm sure you have a clip but she's like look
how fat you are and she's marge is not she's drawn to be a very slim character but they find a way
for manjula to grab a ton of fat on her stomach and shake it it's awful no it is truly awful but
yes i have a little bit of manjula the hateful wife as i call this clip
manjula remember when apu cheated on you yes thank you i'm worried homer might do the same
thing what would make a husband lose interest like that what i do now i do is your dearest friend
look at this fab look at it oh my god is that me? Most assuredly, yes.
Faced with a problem like this,
I wonder, what would Oprah do?
An Oprah gaining weight joke.
I feel like Algeena had that one left over from Alf.
Yeah.
Though it lets them do a joke about the Staples Center.
They go to the stomach Staples Center.
The only funny part of that awful, ugly scene is marge looking down at manjula grabbing
her fat and her saying is that me and manjula says most assuredly yes the exchange is fun i agree and
so would you believe it this scene in the deleted scenes is worse actually oh dear so there's no
oprah joke but basically manjula says it's not Marge's idea to get help.
It is Manjula's idea.
She says we need to take a more enlightened approach.
She then does the namaste hand motion and then it cuts to what looks to be a Hindu temple.
And then it zooms out to show like, no, theu temple is behind the stomach staple center instead okay so
the implication was you think minjool is going to take her to do yoga but actually she's taking her
to get cosmetic surgery i see and i was also thinking that what would oprah do it's a a joke
about oprah's fluctuating weight and b it's a what would jesus do joke as well yeah it's also that it's bad for two reasons
but i do like stomach staple center is that the crypto.com yeah at least we were recording that
yeah this yes yeah the crypto.com arena which i've been inside the staple center twice i've been
outside of it a few times three times for wrestling but we've walked by it a million times when we worked at e3 yeah or covered the video game convention oh we worked at it yes oh did we ever god oh yeah there was one
other deleted joke from that too that in the line of people they had one of agnes is at the front of
the line and she says she wants her scowl lines to be deeper she says i'm still too approachable
one other thing i noticed and it's in your clip henry
they use the ben casey music again from dog of death well it's from ben casey but they reused
that sound yeah after the ben casey when i think it became maybe this is also algae noticing like
hey that was fun when we would use that as like the establishing sting for any hospital and did
you notice also i mean joan rivers is there ha ha ha so funny but behind
joan rivers is a man with four arms i missed that yes that's okay it's very distracting and no one
acknowledges it even on the commentary it's odd i caught that diabetes was in the line i missed
the four-armed man or maybe two then i see the superman costume i'm like oh comic book thing and my eyes
are immediately drawn to it but it's funny a comic book guy wants to fit into a normal man
superman costume for a funeral of all things but yes marge wants lipo suction as julie cavner
pronounces it this is one joke where i'm like this seems at least a little more fair to the
expectations of women that marge holds up a photo of homer to say i need to lose enough weight to be attractive to a man
who looks like this which is like yeah wait marge why are you holding yourself to such a
impossible standard when you're married to homer and then when she's being put under she's asking
like what if i just do aerobics and and he just shoves the mask over her so she's also pointing
out that like oh if i want
to feel better about myself and get a better shape i don't need something this drastic and invasive i
can actually have a lifestyle change maybe but she doesn't need one no because margie looks great you
know family guy has a better i hate that feels crazy to say a family guy approaches this a little
better in their episode where lois gains some weight and Peter is judging her for it.
And he's making fat jokes at her expense.
And she's like, you're fatter than me.
Yeah.
And then he says, Lois, men can't be fat.
Only fat women are fat.
That's a good joke about the double standard in American way of viewing fat people.
Obviously, as a heavier man myself myself i know that you are judged for
being a fat man as well but it's worse for women oh absolutely yeah were you annoyed like me that
it's not dr nick yeah a little bit i mean this guy's funny it's also hank azaria doing a fun
accent but this is just some guy from pygmalion yeah it's a more specific attack they can do on Dr. 90210 types, I suppose.
Yeah, he feels like more specifically an LA area immigrant who got a lot of money being a surgeon.
I mean, he even references a Romanian dictator.
Ceausescu, yeah.
Oh yeah, this guy is Dr. Vela Mirovic, and he's named after Max Pross's wife.
I see.
Yeah.
It's just like how they only know Indian classmates for Indian names.
So they're like, what Romanian names do we know?
Well, Max Pross's wife is one of those weirdo names.
Yeah, he is very much the parody of professional plastic surgeons, in quotes, back then, who were these bronzed gods who also had Eastern European accents, making him seem a little skeezy.
They had more of the obvious jokes in the Pygmalion one of him,
drawing on him with a marker or that kind of bit here.
But obviously he gets mixed up because he accidentally gives her big boobs.
And, you know, I haven't played this bit in a while, but I think it deserves it.
I bet you didn't see that coming.
I didn't.
So after all of the stuff about Marge feeling her body issues or worried that Homer might leave her,
all of a sudden she wakes up with gigantic boobs, which were meant to be given to the assistant of Mayor Quimby.
That's funny.
I don't feel sucked out.
Doctor, my assistant is as flat as ever.
Where are the new knockers the taxpayers paid for?
You're right.
That's like Flatsville.
Then where did I put those implants?
What on earth have you done?
My McGuppies became bazongas.
Great Ceausescu's ghost.
Are those real?
Oh, all right.
That's not bad.
No, that's not bad.
I'm finding laughs where I can.
Speaking of cruelty to women, making Julie Kavner say these things feels awful, but it's also very funny.
It is funny.
For Marcia to say bazongas.
Bazongas.
Or also, I don't feel sucked out sucked out yeah they're having some fun with it
yes that it was free boob job done to her by a very uncaring guy who messes it up and yes that
he doesn't know that they're fake until and fake isn't like yeah that many comedians had a lot of
fun with the idea of like uh they're not fake you you can touch them yeah they're not fake boobs it also feels just like so gross that marge accidentally was operated
on in the incorrect way this can cause scarring and other complications i mean it's a cartoon of
course but that's such a sensitive area it feels so wrong and they're not acknowledging they really
want to say like oh we really want to see what it was like for a woman to get breast implants or cosmetic surgery.
When you get that, there's weeks of healing.
Yes, that actually is a huge difference here.
They're like, wait, either breast augmentation or reduction or all that stuff. We are much more aware.
And by we, I mean men who realize they're like, oh, this boob job isn't a magic wand that makes you have bigger boobs.
Like it is a major surgery that can have
dangerous complications in some cases like marge will be left with scars from this this basically
treats it like the boob fairy showed up and just granted her new boobs and when they go away
everything's fine too and there's no difference she visited unnecessary surgery land
and now when she puts on her strapless dress her boobs are much more
pronounced now than they were before oh i should mention too it's funny on the commentary that
they actually do have nancy cartwright for this one of all ones she says at one point i feel like
i'm in a high school locker room i think is what she says to kind of make everyone uncomfortable
she was like i was breastfeeding when i started working on the simpsons because she had just had a kid that's right to a child who was like then 21 when
they were recording it meaning her kid is now in her early 30s the one she was breastfeeding
you know it's probably best she was on this commentary how much worse behaved would they
have been on this commentary if it was just dudes on it it gets pretty lewd even with her there the joke they say about adam west
acting out the bit that dana ghoul did is that batman is trying to get to use the bathroom at
a friendlies which is a la based we had them in ohio oh they were okay i never had a friendlies
like it's sort of like shonies one of those i had shonies yeah so of course if i didn't know
friendlies i didn't know what a fribble was either which is a milkshake i guess right yeah yeah friendlies also had famous for their smiley
face cookies oh yeah that's fun but the bit is that dana gould is acting out being adam west
batman trying to get to use the bathroom at a friendlies while almost crapping his pants the
entire time i'm looking up a fribble and it says this isn't your average
milkshake our famous friendlies fribble milkshakes are the creamiest tastiest milkshakes ever and
it's one of those ones i'm almost positive where they give you the milkshake and then they give
you the little like tin cup with the remaining milkshake remnants in it i love getting that tin
cup of milkshake milkshake doesn't taste right to me unless i'm tasting metal as well drinking it hurting your teeth i mean you know you're already in teeth hurt town with a milkshake now i'm i'm
fine with milkshakes also to set this in time we get a lot of men are pigs jokes where marge is
complaining that my husband's gonna beat you up and the doctor reminding her like oh yeah i'm sure
he'll be really mad at me for giving you large boobs oh yeah and then she has trouble keeping
her balance while she's walking out of the room.
Reardon and his team do good animation in this,
for sure.
And so yes, Marge,
before she had half decent proposal,
and then what was the other dedicated Marge episode
before that?
It's sweets and sour Marge,
which is just her being a huge nag,
taking away anything fun.
A real Aaron Choco snitch.
Right, right.
She is Aaron Choco snitch. right she is aaron choco snitch
so yes then we see some very imitatable acts for children of millhouse being tied to the spinning
carousel-y type thing you have in most now this is a merry-go-round toy story 4 pointed this out
what a carousel is and what a merry-go-round is oh you're right okay and i remember you know when
you're a kid and you're looking for any
kind of thrill you don't know about getting high and you can't get high you can't get drunk either
what you do every recess is try to push the merry-go-round to the limits and that's what we
did for a few years on the playground at recess to the point where okay it's my turn to be the
victim on the merry-go-round and they're going to push it as fast as possible for as long as
possible to the point where you're like stop it please just stop and then they just laugh harder when
you're saying stop you're bringing back memories for me here too on this i think we were both more
the millhouse on these than the barts hey speak for yourself okay well i mean i also had a change
purse as a child too oh my lord we were participating as a group in this we're like okay we take turns
seeing who can push it to the limits because we thought if you go fast enough, something really cool might happen.
Okay.
I probably spun it a few times too.
Who gave you this change purse?
Didn't they know?
Or that it was a feminine item perhaps?
I think my mom gave me change in a little Ziploc baggie.
So I believe it was that we went to, you go to the bank with mommy when she's running errands and
i believe i was given like a free pen there sometimes and it's the bank's logo on a change
purse and i was like oh this is fun and i can put all my quarters in here your mom was like one
purse for my son please i did not consider it a dorky thing it's a coin pouch if this joke had
happened in like season two i would have felt felt extreme shame. Now, this is probably how I learned that like, wait, were people judging me for my change
first?
Speaking of great animation too, it's funny, like the way he spins, like the blur on it,
really, really good.
Cut to another moment that feels like them rediscovering like, oh yeah, wait, when was
the last time we did a Chalmers Skinner scene?
Feels like it's been a little while in the series.
Yeah, we start with a close-up of him going, Skinner!
I've had such a good time today, or something like that.
Right, yes.
It turns out they're showing around the veterans of Iwo Jima, the guys who lifted up the flag,
and we're recording this on Flag Day, believe it or not.
Really?
No, it's Donald Trump's birthday.
It could be two things.
Yeah.
Hey, isn't
there a whole movie about how that was staged this whole scene yeah yeah it was part of the two flags
of our fathers it was the double shot of iwo jima films that the clint eastwood did that was the one
i didn't watch though i heard it was good i watched letters from iwo jima okay that's another one yeah
there were two of them okay it was clint wanted to do the American side and the Japanese side.
And I'd like to rewatch it, but he did want it to be as in all the Japanese people in it who are the main characters all speak Japanese to each other.
Though, doesn't it sound crazy to say Clint Eastwood directed a Japanese language movie?
Sure. Yeah, I guess there are some Americans speaking English in it, though, right?
A couple. Yeah. sure yeah i guess like there are some americans speaking english in it though right a couple yeah then they are interrupted by millhouse flying in and they definitely wrote this after 9-11 and
they're doing a throwing up on the flag joke after 9-11 but here's the thing we can't even hear the
throw up it's really weird because we just did that episode that has a scene with tom brokaw
repeatedly throwing up in a garbage pail you don't see it they can't do that but you at least hear it here it just goes going and you don't even hear
like the splatter of puke on a flag where's the splat i feel like will that be crossing the line
we're at war they can have the splat in a garbage can but they can't have the splat on the flag yeah
and doesn't this also all of this flag disrespecting feel like them getting the idea for the Bart Mangled Banner episode in season 15?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The one where Bart moons the flag?
And we're not too far away from the Futurama episode A Taste of Freedom, which just aired
in, I think, November of 2002.
Though that was written pre-9-11 about flag stuff.
We have a whole lot about the flag in that one.
But yes, this is when millhouse almost gets in trouble
until they realize there's somebody else to blame my god this youngster befouled the flag wait this
just doesn't add up millhouse has never been anything but a comic foil hey what's going on
here something crazy there's your queen bee explain yourself sim I saw Krusty do it on TV. Then Krusty will feel my wrath.
The spritz has hit the fan.
You won't hurt Krusty, will you?
He's all we got.
Shut your puke, old punk.
Sir, yes, sir.
The spritz has hit the fan again.
Looked very ADR to me.
Like, doesn't really fit.
Yeah, they're going to cancel Krusty again.
They could say we watched Batman, but no, it's that they watched Krusty again they could say we watched Batman but no it's that they watched
Krusty on Batman they should be blaming Batman then they could get in trouble the entire Warner
business the Batman writers also I'm reading now an update to my incorrect comment the Iwo Jima
flag image video whatever film is not posed oh okay as of 2015 it was decided that the allegations
were baseless baseless wow all right
i really want to watch that fake movie no he went back in time oh right yeah well i mean once you
live long enough you get those powers he was a spry like 17 when that happened or something
speaking of age that's something else i like too that they can't do now back then it was possible to assume crusty was old enough to have been a guest star on the
1966 batman show because if he was 35 years ago then then crusty could be a 65 year old clown on
tv that's fine i mean we saw how long the original bozo was on tv and cookie and cookie cookie that's those crusty voices from by the way or well from
anybody it's cookie the clown then we have a bunch of chesty funnies here with with marge you know
marge just go the other side of the cabin yes yes my note on this is at home marge's huge boobs
prevent her from opening the cupboards in a very specific way i know it reminded me of
one of the funniest the most i've laughed at one thing he said on something was describing
a character in one of the evangelion movies that she's just talking about how big her boobs are
getting away oh mari yes yeah it reminded me of your feelings on mari the character like oh my
my huge titties are getting in the way.
She gives huge titties a bad name.
Well, speaking of her huge titties, this is where there's a secret deleted scene on the DVD, on the DVD menu.
Oh, boy.
You showed this to me when I showed up here.
It had to be seen to be believed.
So in the regular version, Maggie's chasing in Snowball, falls down.
Marge tries to comfort her, but can't get maggie up to her
face because she keeps hitting her boo i that's again just move her around your boobs and like
your arms can do more than just like lifting you're not like a robot or a little toy or something
marge doesn't know what to do and maggie is just confused by these huge knockers she's getting
smacked with the huge hooters and this though is when marge says she's
going to try to hide it from the whole family the deleted scene is bart comes into the room and says
he wants cookies the way marge hides her boobs is first she bends over the sink like she's washing
stuff but because if you know the simpsons have two sinks that her boobs are split one boob in
each sink so there's like cleavage separation it is a lot
of boob movement that seems very fetishy and her boobs are looking more realistic you know
take a next level of fetishism if she got stuck in the dryer with her new boobs oh yeah but in
this case yes the contours of her breast in that shot i can see why it got deleted and the sensors
might have been like guys this is too much boob
movement you you've crossed the line here but then she then has to get him the cookies she uses both
her hands to cover her boobs with two giant pans and then uses her hair to knock over a bag of
cookies for bart her boobs there's no consistency with her boobs they get bigger every scene i feel
like it's however that horny the
animator is working on it it changes from animator to animator then to make this really feel like
2002 jokes about the segway i guess those still exist right people still use them i only see them
when i'm visiting a new place and i'll still see segway tours but that's about it. I think in life around here in the Bay Area, I see way more
people on hoverboards or just motorized skateboards. Scooters too, the scooters. Oh, the scooters. I
swear I've seen at least three people with, I guess you'd call them like a powered unicycle,
but it's basically like one big wheel in the middle of a skateboard. I don't mind those. The
scooters, I'm nearly hit by one about every three weeks it's like i have about three seconds to notice oh a scooter's coming at me
which direction do i go i blame the children who now are freshmen in college now just zipping
around on them which i get there's a lot of hills if you're going up to the berkeley college and if
you're on your way to class i get the you're like i'll just get a scooter and zip up the hills not
get all tired but obviously when i hear a joke like Kent Brockman has about accidents on segways that kill people
I can't not think of the 2010 death of Jimmy Hesselden who was the owner of the segway company
who died in 2010 from falling off a cliff in a segway he was not the inventor of the segway
people think the inventor died this way but no it was the guy who bought the company and he was already a very old man he lived in yorkshire
england and fell off of a cliff it said i didn't look at the distance of the cliff he apparently
was like on a walk backed out of the way for somebody to walk by and backed up too much and
fell off a cliff but he died doing what he loved plummeting bashing his head into rocks he loves
that it was like the homer from barth the daredevil but real what happened to him and
condolences to his family he was rich it's fine also there's i mean it's not like technically
that offensive but shocked to hear the word flag hags were insulted yes when they describe all this but they make it clear everybody's upset
about this they even have a sign of them marking out beavis and butthead and they marked out jackass
and now all the parents are mad about crusty in puke parents united against crusty's evil
the a is silent and puke this is where crusty refuses this definitely also feels like the
algin era of like political correctness has gone
a little too far kind of thing.
I mean, Krusty is right to be defensive about this.
They didn't even imitate something that was on his TV show.
This is, again, very noticeable where Helen Lovejoy is not Maggie Roswell.
It's Mitzman once more.
We're still in production season 13.
So don't worry maggie will be back
very soon i noticed i forgot to say this on the treehouse she reappeared on she is a guest star
in that one which makes me think that that's why it's the next season where they finally negotiate
a regular appearance thing for her instead of uh it was a one-off in that episode comparatively
yeah you know honestly thinking
about the jan hooks thing a little more it feels more like fox said why do we need to pay jan hooks
to do this tress does it and no one can tell the difference so who cares i think you're right i
think they wanted to or they at the very least told jan hooks we can't pay you what we were paying
you in season 11 to be this recurring character and she maybe she said uh well that doesn't work for
me i'm not taking a pay cut to play an indian woman who hates her husband yeah they get so mad
they even knock over crusty's trailer and he gets stuck in a trash can bart does the neck pull as
well then we have a very silly joke about homer somehow not recognizing marge's boobs first that
he just needs her to label which is
dinner and breakfast of the meal she made secretly but it also feels like they remember like oh yeah
didn't we do jokes about characters in the dark with only their eyeballs like it feels like forever
since they did one of these jokes yeah it feels like it's been a very long time it's a funny joke
that homer doesn't realize he's touching a boob until he feels both of them for a while as well he's like
what's this there's two of them i mean it is homer and i don't expect more of him but it would have
been a funny choice if homer didn't really care you know with what they do the marge they should
have some more emotionality in the story i feel like it's all gags but they're all at her expense
and this is also gross because marge is like don't worry they're going out tomorrow though i'm getting rid of the implants tomorrow and homer's like yeah he truly
is a monster this doctor yeah he has to be a pig who just loves it there is a better version of
this a few years earlier on that king of the hill we did where peggy gets the beauty queen makeover
hank hates it yeah because she looks unrecognizable to him i guess that's the difference between
writing a
character who loves his wife in one where they admit the like hey doesn't everybody hate their
wife eventually you'd love her if she had giant fake tits but yes homer again his delivery of
yeah he truly is a monster hey let's go to that feels very danigul to me also and now the breasts
are people to him he's like uh just you you, me, the kids, and the twins.
The twins.
I feel, too, when they're in their post-coital embrace,
they're drawing Homer's chest slightly bigger than usual, too.
This is when the whole family reacts to Marge's new boobs.
Homer, let me explain something.
Explainator.
Homer.
Ooh, ooh, homie.
Hey, what happened?
I fell off.
Now don't get too used to these.
That awful doctor said he'd take them out in a couple of days.
Yeah, he truly is a monster.
Hey, let's go out to dinner tomorrow.
Just you, me, the kids, and the twins.
What do you say?
They do make my neck look thinner.
Oh, all right. Let's do it.
Mom, Lisa pushed me in the laundry basket.
Whatever Bart is saying is a lie.
Mom, what happened?
Your endowment's bigger than Harvard's.
Well, that cinches it.
Lisa gets the prize for the best off-the-cuff response. Actually, I
saw them earlier and I was working on it in the hall.
I think that might
be my favorite joke in the episode because it's
a joke about writing jokes. Yeah, yeah, I do like
that. Everybody has so many one-liners
about Marge's boob that it's like,
wait, this is too writerly. They have to then
say, actually, Lisa's been
writing jokes to be
prepared for what she's gonna say when she reacts to Marge's boobs yeah I don't know if I'm a prude
or anything I don't know if I like the idea of a scene where the premise is well in this scene
we'll turn the lights off and then Homer squeezes both of Marge's tits and you hear her react
yeah no I I know they're a married couple and there's been scenes of them getting frisky before
but it's just so weirdly specific that it kind of creeps me out.
You know, it's meant to create a mental picture.
Yes, I did like the way they giggle together after he fell off.
Like, that's cute.
That is cute.
Yeah, that feels nice.
It's a nice palate cleanser.
You know what?
I like the reversal that it's Lisa who bullied Bart and Bart's coming into the room to complain, not the other way around.
Harvard has large endowments,
so we get also a joke about Harvard.
Lisa, now that Al Jean's back in charge,
Lisa now makes more jokes about Ivy League schools.
Then they decide it's time for jokes
about how Italians are the horny guys here.
So they go to Luigi's.
Also feels like they'd be like,
oh yeah, Luigi's, that's a bad restaurant they can go to.
Talk about Adiardo.
I fucking hate agnes's
it's as cold as my love for you yeah this what was the first joke i want to hear that first joke i
really want to know too also it's weird that the lobsters are staring at her chest that also feels
strange we meet angelo who does appear one other time in the series in production season 15 all's fair in oven war which they hire contractors to rebuild
their kitchen and homer says that like oh i bet you're gonna ogle my wife and then the contractor
says i'm actually gay but we have a guy who ogles for me and then angelo shows up and basically does
again the i like it to look uh that's like a chew. That does feel like a Dana Gould thing.
Hey, if you're annoyed by us saying this,
it's because we know Dana Gould too well.
We pay attention to his stand-up too much.
I love a large-jawed, bashful Italian man
rubbing his hands like, I like it to chew.
And also hearing Italian-American Dan Castellaneta do it.
It's a tribute to his culture of a corny Italian man.
Lisa, of course, has to have a problem
with it and must be proven wrong in
song. Though I guess Lisa's proven
right in the end that it's wrong, that Marge
being objectified is a bad thing.
So this song is called, because
it's credited on Testify,
the album Testify, the song's
official name is You're a Bunch of Stuff.
Yeah, in fact, that's actually what you see in the credits. Oh, I missed that. you're a bunch of stuff yeah in fact that's
actually what you see in the credits oh it says you're a bunch of stuff lyrics by ian max jones
graham music by alf clausen okay cool all right i mean it's a good name for a song that is just
a list of things to compare march's boobs to starting with a big spaghetti dinner smothered
in whipped cream and yeah i like how lisa is grossed out by
that lyric yes yeah it is disgusting the joke is how her breast surgery was unnecessary and actually
kind of gross but it made it even better yeah it's an unnatural thing that turns everybody on
here i'll drop in the song mom doesn't it bother you that they're giving you all this attention just because of those?
That's not true, Lisa.
There are a lot of complicated issues here that can only be explained through song.
You took a 20-carat diamond and made it gleam
Like a big spaghetti dinner
Smothered in whipped cream
You're like X-Men number three
In a Mylar bag
You're a brand new muscle car
And all the wheels are mag
You make me feel as young
As the blood I get from sheep
You're like Jacqueline Bessette in me favorite film, The Deep.
You're sexy and exotic like a hooker from Belize.
Or a patient with insurance who's crawling with disease.
You're a sundae underneath two great big cherries.
Keep in mind they're only temporary.
Still me glad to say that we are very, very
Glad to see you
And I decree you
The hardest thing to hit this city
Since the fire that killed Eleven
Dangerous criminals
Hooray!
And they're all mine
Homer, how come you never sang a song like that to me before?
I was getting around to it.
So just to let you guys know, X-Men number three in a Mylar bag,
and he certainly means the 1963 issue of X-Men number three.
That's worth about a thousand a
good quality one on ebay will go for a thousand bucks right does anything important happen in
that it is the first appearance i don't know how intentional this is that it's the comic book the
comic book guy brings up it's the first appearance of the blob okay yeah which you played the x-men
arcade game everybody knows that nothing moves the blob.
Nothing moves that.
They do say their own little catchphrases often.
Now, for the first time in my life, I looked up The Deep, the movie The Deep.
The sea captain says, you're like Jacqueline Bessette in my favorite film, The Deep.
So I looked it up.
I typed in Jacqueline Bessette, The Deep.
The first thing you see is the scene that everyone remembers from this movie that no one remembers.
Jacqueline Bessette, a very chesty woman going diving in the world's thinnest white T-shirt. And that is the first three pages of the Google image results for The Deep.
With nothing underneath that T-shirt.
Yes, obviously.
It's insane to me that when I looked it up that the movie is pg it's a 1977 pg movie when she is basically
wearing a transparent shirt and tiny pants too or tiny bikini bod for a movie to get an r in 77
there needed to be cum shots it's like texas chainsaw massacre rated pg i learned all the
facts about this from a decider headline which is called the deep features the wettest wet t-shirt scene in movie
history dear lord yeah and i was looking more into the deep it's based on a book written by the guy
who wrote jaws and it was acquired before the book was even finished because jaws was such a big hit
wow so peter benchley that's why the poster this was in that decider article too they talk about
how even though it's the first
10 minutes of the movie and she doesn't look like that the rest of the movie that that's the poster
image too is her swimming upward though it also does feel a little like jaws coming up from the
water it's her except it's Jacqueline Bissett's ample bosom as as Marge would put I'm looking at
it now yeah I swear to god this is all the images you'll see of this movie if you search for it. And I'm sure when it was harder to see breasts in things,
you would turn to movies like The Deep and say, well, I know there are boobs in the first 10
minutes, so let's go. This is before even HBO or Cinemax existed for you. So yeah. Meanwhile,
you're getting to see a PG movie in 1977 and you're getting to see a boobs like this if al jean was in kindergarten in 1966 then
by 1977 he's the exact age to appreciate the deep absolutely yeah the one thing about this scene i
think the song is very catchy when they're seated at the table they're seated by the lobsters and
they're all leering at marge and because of that there has to be constant animation of a lobster
tank behind the Simpsons,
and it's very distracting.
Oh, yeah, that is.
They have to then kind of move the table away from it
a little more to get everybody to get behind her
during the song, too.
I like, too, that when Byrne sings his song,
you see Smithers very bored, and he's the one,
look at his homo.
He doesn't care about how big her boobs are.
I don't agree with that, his.
And then Quimby comes out and unrolls a proclamation like he's in he doesn't care about how bigger boobs are i don't great that is and then quimby
comes out and unrolls a proclamation like he's in the wizard of oz and i like his delivery too
like the hottest thing to hit this city since that fire that killed 11 dangerous criminals
hooray that's a good end to the song oh wait no homer has to remind us that marge is his property
i forgot that yeah the song i mean it's not the best song, but I thought the most clever rhyme is cherries with temporaries. Oh, that. Yeah,
that is a good one. Yeah. That's where Nancy talks about how we've heard before, but that in this
song, I think it's very funny. But yeah, the Cavner is a little embarrassed about her singing
voices, Marge, that there is no room to sing in that style of voice.
Yeah.
And I wanted to ask you this, Henry.
When was the last time there was a Simpsons song that was a performance by the characters
like this?
Because I think that's something Al Jean is also bringing back.
The last time I can remember is in Wild Barts Can't Be Broken.
They do that musical number that is a parody of the song Kids from Bye Bye Birdie.
Yeah, I think that was the
last one until now they do songs all the time in current simpsons but i think it has been a little
while maybe it was because they did the clip show that was all songs that they like pulled back from
it or something but yeah i'm having trouble thinking of original songs in between these
seasons yeah well barts can't be broken to season 10 yeah i realized
that there have been parodies of songs in the simpsons like marge letter jugs out but when was
the last time there was a performance in a scene by characters a musical moment like who needs the
quickie mart or the monorail song and so on and so on so i was looking at the track listing for Simpsons Testify, which this song is also on.
And actual songs sung by characters.
Bart does sing the song Testify in Fade Off.
There's that one.
I guess that does count.
Sure.
Yeah.
But Ode to Branson, that's not the characters singing a song.
It's a song that's on stage.
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this list here like they'll never stop the simpsons that's not a song sung by the characters
everybody hates ned flanders medley from dude where's my ranch like yeah it's still pretty
rare in this time where the characters break into song like it is a, not a diegetic musical like Ode to Branson.
Yeah, I guess Testified does count, but it's also Bart is on stage and he is being a preacher instead of having a musical moment when people are breaking into song for no reason.
So actually it doesn't count then.
Yeah, it's not magical singing.
It's a performance on stage.
You're right.
I think this also counts in the Al Jean jeans rediscovering stuff as which i think is
good i think they got away with that stuff because they just were tired of doing it but i think it's
a good time to bring some stuff back i think in the next season we get their evita parody with
lisa and they parody a ton of music from the musical yeah yeah i think that was maybe a too
far that one and i grew up listening to the evita soundtrack all the time as a kid i'm gonna have to when we do that one i'm gonna have to re well i'm not gonna watch the madonna
movie because it's made to be movie length i need to watch a film performance of the original
broadway version homer says they're all mine which again a woman is a man's property of course as we
know but then it also is fun all the characters walk away and they're kind of like with bored
looks on their face like well songs over here and this is where roger realized like homer's never
sung a song for me before this is when out of nowhere comes the act three turn as for no good
reason a woman is like hey i like your style let's make you a model and i'm gonna say it again but
this also sounds very dana gould the hom reaction to, wait for what, confirmation of my attitude?
That, again, feels like a Dana Gould comeback.
I thought you were going to say the sci-fi plot that he thinks is what she's up to.
Actually, you're right.
That also is a very Dana Gould thing, to reference a movie about stealing a brain.
But this is where Bart realizes his story is less important.
Kiki Highsmith, Highsmith Modeling.
Honey, I like your look.
Forget it, Kiki.
You're not putting your brain into her body.
That's not why I'm here.
I can offer your wife a lot of modeling work.
Trade shows to start.
Then who knows?
No dice.
Take your fun and adventure outside.
Now wait, Homer.
Wait for what?
Confirmation of my attitude?
Homie, I could use
a little more excitement
in my life.
Ah!
Hmm, maybe I'll just keep these.
That's great, Mom,
but don't forget,
I got Krusty in hot water.
Now I've got to help him out.
Dun, dun, dun.
Shut up, boy.
Oh, I don't get a song.
Mom got a song.
With the economy the way it is,
you're lucky you get soup.
Oh.
He's even doing the James Cagney dance from Yikidoodle Dandy.
Yeah, he's doing the little March thing.
It's really good.
Bart learns that his story isn't important enough to get its own song,
and then Homer just shuts it down.
I like that.
That's a good line.
Yeah, this Kiki, they don't do enough with her.
There's just one joke about her being like a hateful cruel woman but otherwise again that homer wants to prevent marge from having any fun and
adventure is again like oh yeah homer's an asshole like this is bad husband homer era but yeah that
confirmation of my attitude so we go to commercial break and this episode that at first was marge gets new boobs now becomes marge gets a
new job episode two just for the next seven minutes and barely it's just to get her in place
to flash her bazongas this is where i also wrote down the name jessica rabbit if this is where you
were thinking jessica rabbit in the episode bob yeah well first i want to say that act three starts
at the oven mitt convention and the slogan
is if the mitt don't fit we will remit and then i wrote grown we are 2002 we are seven years out
from this folks we gotta move on so old like yeah and actually i forget i'm looking this up now it
was 1995 now i was trying to remember if johnny cochran was still alive then he died sooner than
i thought uh 2005 so he's still
alive when they're doing this joke but still yeah that's so old i mean i know it's very memorable
but a dated thing i like is that marge is called like the rookie of 2003 i like they put a time
stamp on it okay yeah the jessica rabbit thing it feels like a slightly botched visual gag is that
the word of the day or something botched Where the oven mitts come through the curtains first, making it look like her breasts are
coming out first.
And then we just saw Who Framed Roger Rabbit in theaters.
And when I saw that happen in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, I'm like, oh, was Large Marge referencing
that scene in Roger Rabbit?
And I think it was.
I think you're right.
Now that you put it like that, yeah.
In Roger Rabbit, since we just watched watched it the joke is she enters boobs first
or i think it's legs and then boobs pop out yeah from behind the curtain not only is she dressed
like jessica rabbit but she also walks down her walkway and they even do like a camera turn all
around her yeah i think you're totally right this is staged to be a jessica rabbit parody not just
in her outfit and she even has her hair is like teased out on the side too.
Like they kept her bouffant very high, but she still has her hair teased out.
Yeah, I was only thinking of the gloves coming out from behind the curtain first.
She is wearing a Jessica Rabbit costume.
And I'm only realizing this now.
And I mean, you know, if you're going to reference chesty cartoon characters, Jessica Rabbit's
up there i also do i did laugh pretty good at marge pulling it out and then saying like this sure
beats slaving over a hot stove which she's in front of a stove it's funny ambitious camera
move of her lifting the roast out of the oven the camera pivots around her this is the last
aired ink and paint right i think no next week is helter shelter right and that is worse
than this one boy i think it i honestly think it is i think you're right i think we'll see we'll
see i also did chuckle that this is oven mit con but the woman says when introducing marge
of mit con which that's a great gag about needlessly shortening something. Ofmitcon, not ovenmitcon. Like E3.
Like E3.
Or ComicCon instead of Comic Convention.
They then cut to Marge being introduced at Moe's,
which honestly, this is the last place she should be.
She should not be at Moe's.
Homer just wants to show her off, though.
This also feels like Lenny and Carl have gotten so gay
that this is the longest Carl's ever not looked at Lennyny i take that to mean they're gay friends at this point we also learned that the peanuts are
spitbacks which is also disgusting i'm glad mo was only disgusting in that way or also that he's a
shoe collector as well those are the two bits i was like okay mo could get a lot more disgusting
with marge with her big boobs that i'm glad they didn't go and he has no clean glasses for her yes yeah that's going too far so then we see crusty's show has been
changed for the pc era it's been pussified to talk about another 80 hour line that thing like
teletubbies get away with more than this i'm like what was the old line for this i don't like a
teletubby joke yeah it also feels off for millhouse millhouse should be a fan of the teletubbies like doesn't he have teletubby
underwear and everything there's a few jokes about how he watches teletubbies around this time
he should not be making a joke that says that he doesn't like the teletubbies it's off character
for millhouse it just feels like they didn't like what his old line was and they're like
oh let's change it to teletubbies that's a fun word and we get a little prop in the background
that's showing march's rise to fame over the course of five minutes where it's a magazine
cover with her modeling and the headline is house frow wows dog chow pow wow that's a good headline
yeah it can only be appreciated in hd they show that mel got injured directly looking at an
eclipse then we find out that they got rid of mr teeny and put him back into the wild it's very
close to a prison rape joke it's definitely a new meat in prison joke of the way his cigarette gets
slapped out of his hand it's also like a very tired environmentalist joke it's like oh they
release the captive animal and then it gets eaten immediately those stupid environmentalists i'm sick of it yeah i mean it's more punching an
environmentalist for caring but releasing a captive animals shouldn't happen but if one exists
releasing it into the wild often can do more harm than good i mean it's for the sake of a joke but
because it's such a tired way of punching down at people that care about animals i'm sick of it because environmentalists realize oh this animal
cannot be released in the wild and we have to keep it in captivity forever i just can't survive yeah
it's a joke i know i know but instead it's about uh these dumb environmentalists yes it's annoying
they try to think of how to help him this is where they talk about kirk cutting his foot off
to get attention at some point it
must have been reattached i you know we're doing so much editing on this episode in terms of you
know figuring out what joke should be i really think it should have stopped at oh maybe if we
cut his foot off people will feel sorry for him and not even mention the fact about his dad
where it's just like it's just a weird idea millhouse has i think it's funnier if it's a
weird idea instead of just an attack on Kurt.
Marge enters the frame.
She's talking about her back pain, which is like one of the few facts men know about why women get breast reduction surgery.
It's like, oh, it hurts to have a bad back.
And she's grateful that men are pinching her ass.
That is also, yeah, if men didn't keep pinching my tush, I'd never stand up straight.
It's a sad joke about sexual harassment.
Also with this back problem thing, I'm reminded of future Simpsons guest and funny comedy
musician lady, Rachel Bloom, creator of the and star of the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Show.
She had a song about heavy boobs because she has large breasts and makes fun jokes about
them.
And the song Heavy Boobs is about the pain of like,
a guy compliments her boobs and she's like,
no, I have heavy boobs and describes all the sweaty back pain things involved in it.
She liked her boobs, but apparently after she had a kid,
her boobs got even bigger and she actually did get breast reduction
to get it down to where they were,
because it got even farther from the heavy boobs that originally ailed her.
When I was thinking of back pain from boobs,
Rachel Bloom's recent journey through it was my first thought.
I mean, breasts are complicated.
And then I like that it's Surly Duff and Bill Clinton are among the men
who are ogling her from the window, like you are up against the window.
Surly Duff especially.
And Clinton is there.
I feel like they told Harry to do the sound of Bill Clinton ogling.
Like, ooh.
We didn't cut to the Friars Club.
This scene gave me a good chuckle.
Hey, Krusty.
How'd you get in here?
The doorman died.
Oh, no.
He was my agent.
Listen, I have a plan that will make the world fall in love with Krusty the Clown again.
It's too late.
I've given up.
The Krusty I know didn't get where he is by giving up.
Oh, I got where I am by naming names in the 50s.
Okay.
What's your plan?
It's simple.
We just have to cause a riot at the Springfield Shoe Expo.
I like.
I like.
Everything in that scene is great and crazy.
Yeah.
The doorman died.
That's how Mark got in.
And it turns out it was Krusty's agent as well.
And that hearing that they're going to cause a riot, that's what Krusty likes.
He doesn't need to hear more of the plot.
He's just like, I like, I like.
And apparently Krusty named names during the mccarthy yeah he was he was pro
hearing yeah and we then cut to the shoe con which is woodstock for mo which i feel it was a
relatively new joke then that sickos like mo collected women's shoes it's weird that they
didn't go for a joke it just says shoe expo yeah i think there should be one more joke plugged in
there actually you're right or just like shoe Shoe Expo, colon, joke.
Joke goes here.
The last time we counted on them for that, they did a Johnny Cochran reference, so maybe
we're better off not having that.
Yeah, you're right.
I should stop asking.
I mean, also talk about jokes that don't totally land with me.
Shoes for Jesus, something, you know, it doesn't seem like something Ned would even sell.
And then I think, remember when dreddrick tatum appeared at
the basketball game and he's gonna hunt men for sport and yes they revealed that that was originally
a real celebrity they wrote in but they couldn't get any nba player this feels like they wrote a
scene for a person who in real life would endorse shoes and they couldn't get any of them and so
they're like dreddrick traded him again just making him in the scene i like is very eloquent my forthrightness is my undoing that's
a good line and they are ugly shoes i read that mike tyson never endorsed shoes when he was an
athlete oh really yeah i would have figured he did that was the biggest money in the late 80s
when he was doing it so i think it's because we just did a botox joke in a
futurama the one where they're trying to get farnsworth to be less old but in that one they
say botox in this one i looked at the lip flaps on kiki i think they chose to not have her say
they call it smile serum but i think she said Botox originally.
Were they worried like, oh, it was Botox, copyrighted term maybe?
Especially because she says technically it's a toxin, which that feels more like a punchline to Botox than anything else.
But yeah, maybe calling it a poison or a toxin would get them in trouble.
But I love how after Kiki says technically it's a toxin marge with a rictus grin
she seems to approve like like she's like oh okay technically it's a toxin oh by the way i found a
quote from mike tyson explaining why he never did a sneaker deal he stated quote if they did approach
me for a deal i wasn't interested i was interested in making my own sneaker. Some people wanted me to have my own sneaker, but I was moving too fast.
I couldn't take care of that stuff.
I had my money.
I didn't need no deals.
So I want to see the sneaker designed by Mike Tyson himself.
You're right.
It has to be the Homer car version of sneakers.
Yeah.
But he does own a cannabis company.
Don't worry.
No, like everybody does now.
I'd rather every celebrity own a cannabis company than an NFT company, though.
I feel like I'd be wrong to assume that Mike Tyson doesn't own NFTs.
I feel like he probably does.
I'm sure he was tricked into that.
And don't worry, you can buy ear gummies from the cannabis company that Mike Tyson runs.
Clever, clever, because he put in a ear once.
It's funny when these guys are like i'm a living joke
i'll keep doing this till i'm dead yeah point and laugh as long as you give me the money
this is also when speaking of returns we get a big return in this next clip
kiki i'm tired of trade show modeling my back really hurts you unhappy, so I'm going to inject this smile solution into your jaw.
Did you just drug me?
What the?
Technically, it's a toxin.
Hmm.
Okay, here's the drill.
A rogue elephant, played by my old friend Stampy, is about to crush sweet young Milhouse.
Then you run up and save the day by saying Stampy's safety word,
Magumbo.
Whoa, he's as big as Brando, but he takes direction.
89% of Americans would rather have a shoehorn than a computer.
I'd like to 89 you.
I've heard about you vendors.
That's great.
I've heard about you vendors. That's great. I've heard about you vendors.
So yeah, the return of Stampy, unnecessary.
This feels like the kind of pandering to old fans they're really doing a lot of now. It feels like they're doing a better job now.
Here it's just Stampy for no reason.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
That like, it seems like it's meant to service us as fans, but it's so surface level.
Like they wrote a scene for an elephant.
They're like, what if it was Stampy?
Even Silverman brings up on the commentary like, yeah, there's no explanation why Stampy's not at the animal preserve anymore or the elephant preserve anymore.
Apparently Stampy is there to sell shoelaces because there's a cutout behind him that says Stampy says don't forget shoelaces.
It's almost like Stampy's a celebrity elephant now.
I thought Brando died earlier than this, but he was still alive when this episode aired.
Al Jean cannot get away from Brando fat jokes.
I feel like there was one every four episodes in The Critic, I think.
Yeah.
Wasn't there an episode recently we covered within the past year where Homer was at an audition and Brando was there?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
And also I was thinking of Brando because freakazoid clip appeared in my twitter and i
forgot that there was a joke of them flying a plane and then he dodges a blimp and then the
next blimp he dodges is a gigantic marlon brando who just goes like man and also yes the other gag
about him is that he could not take direction like pretty much from the godfather onward he never listened to a director and just did what he felt like doing oh yes in sweets and
sour marge brando is there at the guinness book of world records homers thinks he's there to be
called the world's fattest man he's like no i'm here to be called the world's greatest living
actor and we just watched the streetcar named desire he is amazing
and like revelatory for his time he's like an old james franco uh who was a bigger creep on sets
that's for history to decide speaking of creepy things in this episode we're not exactly creepy
but i'd like to 89 you is this the simpsons first 69 joke because i think the joke is the guy's supposed to
say 69 but marge says 89 is the percentile so it messes up his joke or he just rolls it and
like i want to 89 you which i'm sure if i were to google 89 sex position it's probably a sex
position as well the only other number sex position i remember than 69 is because from the pretty fly
for a white guy song like he wanted a uh he wanted his 18 but they drew a 31 which means butt sex
okay you know what i never knew that i never bought looking it up obviously you can see i
would be a little more like oh is that a homophobic joke the joke in the song is the tattoo artist
wanted him to look gay by putting a 31 on him well i'll tell you this the people that think about sex visions are people
that have never had sex everybody who brings up donkey punches are people who have never had yes
exactly yes stampy has come back and there's no reason for him to be here at all yeah i'm not
happy with this no they don't need stampy it doesn't matter also i feel like stampy's going
to be killed after this
if he's a rogue elephant and everybody believes it to be true then he's put down isn't he like
he gets the treatment that thomas edison gives to elephants they at least remember the fact that
stampy puts people in his mouth i wonder did an animator remind them of that or was that actually
in the script but i do like that millhouse is
called an honor student just to make it more intense and also the guy objectifying marge
just says like you're an object yeah i like the way your body looks that's fun yeah it's it's
great everything's going to hell because crusty forgets the word he makes a lot of guesses colombo nintendo and how do you feel about crusty saying
nintendo that's too dated like i don't like it it feels like an old man going like what are kids
playing crazy word like nintendo not by 2002 the nintendo had been around for 15 years in america
like it was a very known thing we all knew what it was stampy not only puts
millhouse in his mouth but also bart again i hate this adr line i hated it that was my least favorite
bits when i watched this one it was new if he bites i'm sunk if he swallows i'm good like i
want to know that original line i feel like it must be better than that yeah and then in a very
realistic thing the cops are ready
to indiscriminately shoot children they they don't negotiate with elephants a very post 9-11 line as
well and of course i feel like do you think they worked backward from this episode ends with marge
flashing her boobs to everybody to save the day and they have to figure out how to do that that's the teaser image like if you go
to the wiki page for this the poster style image they'd redraw from this episode is marge's nude
back facing the audience from the episode yeah i feel like probably was written backwards like we
want marge to flash an entire crowd how do we make that happen okay stampy's here for some reason how do we justify
this thing and so marge's boobs save the day wait wait my son my husband and the van houten boy are
in there sorry ma'am we don't negotiate with elephants ready mom do something! Aim! I've got to stop them from shooting! I... I don't...
Lisa, don't hate me for this.
Continue aiming!
Still aiming!
Hey, cops! Check out this all-points bulletin!
Whoa! Look at those magumbos!
Hey, that's it.
Magumbo.
I came out of the elephant's mouth, right?
Because I already showered once today.
Somehow there was room for Bart Milhouse and Homer in Stampy's mouth.
Stampy's been stretching out that mouth. He's been learning to fit as much in as possible.
One cool thing I saw is that all of this is taking place in front of the assassins booth so those shoes still exist
i missed that yeah i like that now that's a callback that makes more sense than stampy
appearing now you can buy the shoes isn't that great but only on the secondary market because
they sold out that fast and i also wrote that i don't like that mo and just stamp the ticket guy
got to see marge's boobs.
You know, I hadn't considered that.
That is actually really gross to me.
For the rest of time, you can think, well, Moe has seen Marge's naked breasts.
Yuck, man.
And what's he doing with that mental image?
Probably every night.
Now I'm extra disgusted by this episode.
This is not the first time nude photos of marge will appear in the springfield shopper
because her and homer both got photographed when they land in the middle of the football game oh
right right yeah i do like the headline joke though oh which one after the day is saved we
see the headline tv clown saves day but we pull out to see a much bigger headline that says craze
mom goes topless photos pages 3 to 28 yes that's great that nobody actually even cares about Krusty yeah
it's more that they got overshadowed by
it and Marge's naked breasts were on
25 pages in a newspaper
that's a lot of pages dedicated
to Marge's boobs yes so
after all of that we then get a
happy ending with the return of
classic Marge
well you saved Krusty's reputation
and you learned that a woman doesn't need a 48 inch chest to be beautiful of Classic Marge. Well, you saved Krusty's reputation.
And you learned that a woman doesn't need a 48-inch chest
to be beautiful.
That's how I felt all along.
Lisa learned a lesson.
Lisa learned a lesson.
Kids, I'd like to reintroduce you to Classic Marge.
I finally feel like me again.
You're not disappointed, are you?
Not at all, sweetie.
At least one of us should be able to put their arms around the other one. What the hell?
What a weird last line.
Yeah.
Is it just supposed to be that we're to think that homer
is gonna have sex with marge and then he's like oh no i'm not gonna have sex with you we're gonna
go eat fried chicken together i mean the important thing for marge after all this just to show you
that men wrote this when marge is thinking about how she feels about not having large boobs anymore
and having major surgery her first thought is do you still want to have sex with me
like that's her first thought like after all get another woman to look this over please
but a cute thing i love that they credit to jim reardon when bart is singing elisa learned a
lesson maggie's dancing along to it it's adorable i do like. She's getting into it. Yeah. So then we have Baja Man singing Who Let Her Jugs Out.
And I was wondering, Henry, if you found this in your research,
Marsha Wallace is given a credit in this episode in voice acting.
Is there a deleted scene with Edna?
There's only two deleted scenes on the DVD and she doesn't talk in either of them.
And we didn't hear her in the final episode, did we?
No.
The only time she's on screen
that i clocked was her and skinner are holding the protest sign together in front of crusties
so you know we did discover i couldn't find the original script nobody did a script run through
this one like they did with strummer vacation but in strummer vacation she's credited in that
and doesn't appear and there's a cut joke on the
page maybe now with marcia wallace they have to credit her even if they delete something that
doesn't get animated if they record her they have to credit her they've been doing that as early as
flaming mose though not flaming mose uh the softball episode right right she's credited but
they cut the scene out with her and jose canseco they cut her ways too much yeah i assume the line
would have been there but no i'm not sure where marcia got cut in the episode interesting okay
you know what wait now this tells me that they have like a dozen unused lines by the late marcia
wallace if they want to have a flashback where edna says stuff they can reuse those have her
say for no reason whatever line she said in this episode, in the new Simpsons episode.
Yeah, I mean, I think we're coming up on 10 years without Marsha Wallace.
They just, in the last season, they did like a burying the character moment.
Bart having a final memory of her kind of deal.
They did play like one line of archival audio from Edna.
Oh yeah, in October it'll be 10 years.
But yeah yeah we did
watch that one and i thought it was tasteful yeah yeah it was it was nice but less tasteful is who
letter jugs out barge letter jugs out don't don't don't i'll give it to the baja men they showed up
and recorded it but they didn't need this no and i mean we already had them doing who left the milk
out or whatever i feel like this is just really underlining how vulgar this episode was.
It's just kind of rubbing your face in it, isn't it?
Just one more time.
Like Marge, let her jugs out.
Just in one.
Also, like the Baja men are also very like in your face band as well.
So we've rarely had a looter episode of Talking Simpsons.
Yeah.
We mentioned like cum shots and knockers.
And I said itty bitty titty committee.
I apologize for that.
I said titty fucking as well.
We said a lot of words we regret.
Yeah, I deeply apologize.
And I will make up for my actions by making more podcasts.
We're very sorry.
But hey, at least, you know, and in the same episode with El Homo as well.
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Much let her jokes out
Who let her jokes out?
Much let her jokes out No! No! No! No! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Hup! Shh!