Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Lisa's First Word

Episode Date: November 9, 2016

We travel back to 1984 to learn all the kids’ first words, burgers won at Olympics, and tons more facts! Listen to this podcast or a clown might eat you…

this week's talking simpsons is brought to you by casper mattresses talking simpsons listeners can go to caspertrial.com slash laser time and get 50 towards any new mattress i heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, ahoy, everybody. Welcome to Talking Simpsons, where we're recording live from the rat's nest. I am your host, Bob Mackie, the handsomest boy in albany new york and this is the laser time podcast network's chronological exploration of the simpsons who else is here with me today uh joe piscopo lover henry gilbert uh oh doctor chris antistim and today's episode is lisa's first word can't sleep clown will eat me which aired on december 3rd 1992 and chris will tell us what

happened on this mythical day in simpsons history certainly hope so hold on oh my god oh dr babby jerry rice has caught his 100 touchdown fans may now purchase star trek the screensaver for the low low cost of $39.95 and Home Alone 2 Lost in New York drives a nail through the foot of the US box office. So instead of paying $40 I could just turn my

monitor off right. That's also an option. I would try to get sound I'm like oh yeah these don't have sound. These are just they're like a hundred minutes of sprite based Star Trek

animations that you pay $40 for. That's back when you could sell screensavers. I remember in the After Dark series. I remember in 1997, 1998, I was so impressed that through United Artists, no, not United Artists, King Feature Syndicate or whatever, they were like, hey, download this free Garfield screensaver. I was like, oh boy, Garfield, he's walking to the fridge and he opens it and it lit up.

Wow. And this was like the After Dark series, so it didn't even start itself. You had to open the program and execute the screensaver before you left. You had to load the flying toasters at EXE. And that's really what it was, just Spock flying toasters. I was so excited for Home Alone 2 when it came out, but I think I was old enough then to realize, like, this is just the movie again. I loved it. You just did it again.

It is the exact same movie with the exact same characters, give or take a Donald Trump and a Rob Schneider. An even more unbelievable premise. Yeah, that is way more far-fetched. You can't, well, maybe it's just the post-9-11 world. You can't get on the wrong flight somewhere. I don't care how many ticket ladies you knock over. It is a very pre-9-11 movie, I think. And this time, instead of his house,

he has like a triple the size abandoned hotel. To show how wealthy the McAllisters are. We just have a house we don't use in New York. We have a $25 million brownstone in the middle of Manhattan. I want Kevin to die, actually. So, this episode, before it starts, actually, we have one landmark

thing that happens. It's the first of the uh famous circus couch gag one of the longest couch guys before they all became viral videos that are like three minutes long uh and this is basically used to eat up time when an episode is too short and this episode i think that why they've used it more than once pretty much gene and mike reese are very open about it they're not they're not ashamed but like our episodes were always short so we used this like five times. This episode has the full opening, this couch gag, and a lot of rock and roll animation

and a lot of clearly just treading water. I think there's like 17 minutes of actual content in this episode, which is really good, but it's funny. You couldn't have just written more jokes, guys? There's a number of lines where like, and then let's run it in reverse and say a new joke. Yeah. The infamous floating heads that repeat themselves, which we have just written more jokes guys there's a number of lines where like and then let's turn let's run it in reverse and say a new joke yeah and the the infamous floating heads that repeat themselves

which we see quite a few times i love those floating heads though joe that goes on excruciatingly long for a scene i was looking forward to yeah yeah so the ads the ads ahead of time i remember that they were really hitting hard like maggie's gonna say her first word this is one of those things like you've waited forever you're gonna see it maggie's gonna say a word like i was super duper jazzed for the ads got me really hyped up we've waited you've waited so long one ninth of the simpsons lifespan it's funny yeah the episode is called lisa's first word but it's actually about maggie's first word and we hear about bart's first word immediately in the episode yes and that's that's crazy because it's just him what seeing his

parents just how rivaled the simpsons is for this era did this concept get you guys to ask your parents like what your first word was when the episode did i feel like i must have asked i think so i think it was just like dada or whatever mine was i recall i was told it was Dada as well because my mom was like, oh, you didn't say mama. That was Reaganomics. Apparently Dada is easier for babies to say than mama. Yeah. So that's why it's usually their first. It rolls off a tiny tongue. And this is another Jeff Martin written episode.

It's the second in his flashback trilogy. He first did the Homer Gets a Job job one but bart's birth now he's doing lisa's birth yeah he won't write maggie's birth his next his the final one is the b sharps yeah like i married marge was very specifically laser focused 1980 nostalgia this is very specifically focused 1983 84 nostalgia that's what makes these episodes great it's about like very key moments in these one or two years yeah and it almost matches up with the original chronology of the Simpsons children's ages. Yeah, a bit, a bit. I mean, Bart was born in 81 and Lisa's born in 84, so it's a little shaky at this point.

The year is already floated, yes. But still, it's pretty close. And their designs fit up really well, too. You get to see, well, so it starts off with them trying to make Maggie say a word. Why are they so interested this week and then no other week? I don't know why. Maggie, can you say baba? Can you say mama?

Can you say get bent? Bart? Mr. Rogers says it all the time. He does not. Maggie, can you say daddy? Daddy? Kitty. Rogers says it all the time. He does not. Maggie, can you say daddy? Daddy? Kitty. Kitty.

Bebop. Bebop. Shove it. Shove it. Did you hear that? She said burlap. I don't think so. Oh, Maggie.

When are you going to talk? Well I don't think so. Oh, Maggie. When are you going to talk? Well, don't push her. Remember, it is better to remain silent and be thoughtful than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. What does that mean? You better say something or they'll think you're stupid. Takes one to know one. Swish. Sorry, I love that joke.

Bart really should have kept his vulgar keychain to teach Maggie. Go to hell! Go to hell! Kiss my butt. That reference to Mr. Rogers implies Mr. Rogers was alive when this aired. Yeah, aw. He was just a sweet man. He's one of the best...

He's the best we can do as human beings, I think, Mr. Rogers. This episode, Marge also reads from Fretful Mother magazine, and this reminded me that this episode has a runner that was so, like uh kind of forgotten even by the writers halfway through the season that marge gets so much information from magazines like she is reading his very specific magazine and then we'll say well this magazine says which now you just say this this article that was shared with me on twitter says she'd be reading mommy blogs and i think a lot of them are just written to troll people like we had a Moonrise Kingdom party for our one-year-old.

Like, what? This is just for you. Oh, God. That's a real article, by the way. Please look it up. I feel like there must have been a recent episode where Marge starts a mommy blog. I mean, it feels like such an obvious idea. If it's so obvious, they must have done it. This is our third flashback episode?

Yes. I married Marge. I structure the news segments the same Well, obviously, they must have done it. Well, this is our third flashback episode? Yes. Yeah. Maybe it was. I Marry Marge. Again, I structure the news segments the same way Homer introduces flashbacks, makes a minor joke about something real, and I like that Marge gets to do it this time for 1984. The story of Lisa's first word is very cute. Tell it, Mom.

Tell it, Mom. Yeah, tell it, Mom. Well, this story begins in that unforgettable spring of 1983. Ms. Pac-Man struck a blow for women's rights. A young Joe Piscopo taught us how to laugh. Before Lisa was born, we lived in a tiny apartment on the Lower East Side of Springfield. Chip which for sale? Chocolate chip or oatmeal raisin? Chip which for sale Chocolate chip or oatmeal raisin

Chipwich for sale What am I not getting? What is this supposed to be? It is I feel it's like Conan O'Brien In love with old timey stuff So it's like an anachronism That Simpsons live in old timey New York

Like Godfather 2 era Like Godfather 2 or Once Upon a Time in America Yeah, exactly Turn of the Century, Lower East Side, Manhattan I get that. Even the Italian guy. But the Chipwitch. Is that just something

that was out in 84? Instead of selling like, what would a vendor be selling? Like peanuts or something? Like a Chipwitch is a... Penicillin? Or like the Fishmonger, perhaps? Sweet Bass.

The good old Fishmonger as made famous in Barton Fink. I want to think chipwitches were around since like the 40s or 30s or something. It doesn't seem like a new invention. You would be surprised. We did all this research. We should have looked up what chipwitches were. But it always amazes me it took ketchup that long to build itself in an upside down bottle.

That's a recent invention for a fucking hundred year old problem. We failed as humans. Exactly. So it could have taken a while to put ice cream in between two cookies. Someone had to do it. It was delicious when it finally happened. Wait, let's be honest. Marge in whatever period this is supposed to be

looks hot as fuck. The director points out she's dressed like a 50s housewife even with the spandex pants and the bandana. She's with vague ethnic stereotypes. This is also a double episode of Yardley Smith playing not lisa she

is she is both really boils my potato that's her and hello joe is her is it really yeah we'll listen to it that i swear that's her i don't uh chip which though while ice cream sandwiches have been sold in new york city since the 1890s richard lamotta created chip which in 1981 holy wow cool i was very discovery i i didn't give it credit for trying to root it in some kind of time period but i guess so jesus christ i i'm learning stuff and i do love in the b sharps episode that they bring back up joe piscopo that he had gone on to conquer hollywood shortly after joe piscopo's meets data on star trek you're talking about New Jersey's next governor, so you watch your mouth.

Oh, my God, no. Don't insult Frank Sinatra around him. As retro gamers, did you guys enjoy the joke about ancient arcade games? Yes, I want to see what Kick the Can looks like, the arcade version. This is not too dissimilar from the Atari's first three years of games.

Oh, exactly. I always think of those i always think of those super simple arcade games when we go to california extreme i think oh is this stickball like this game's basically stickball they also had mumbledy peg and i i only recently learned what that is it's like a knife throwing game and you would hear about all the time like kids playing mumbledy peg but it's actually like kind of like jarts but with throwing knives i'm almost positive this is going to be this this episode is gonna be ripe with this kind of shit i'm so prepared for trivia brace yourselves everyone well that reference to the final episode of mash

as well like really dates it and i all now i can only think of the final episode of mash because it's referenced all the time on the comedy bang Bang TV show. Like they say, time for me to watch my favorite TV show, The Final Episode of MASH. Or saying that your ratings are lower than even the greatest TV show ever, The Final Episode of MASH. I did not know that. It's famously one of the most watched non-Super Bowl things on American television. So actually that dates this specifically. If they had watched it last night, the final episode of MASH, when this episode

opens, then it is March 1st, 1983. People did... There's a lot of things with the specific dates and events in this episode. You know Lisa's birthday if you watch it, if you dig, and we'll get to that. Technically. But one of the things I really love about this,

and I know it's maybe kind of lazy, there's just so much TV watching in this. That is like another Algie and Mike Reese staple, I think, towards these later episodes of their run. They do a lot of parodies. So are they the guys who work for Carson? What's that? Are they the guys who work for Carson?

Oh, yeah, yeah. And they were not really happy with their time there. They barely even talked to him. They're months away from Carson being on their show. Yeah. I thought this was like them just trying to, I don't know, just show Carson real quick. But the more I look at these jokes they keep showing with Carson, they're intentionally terrible. Yeah.

It's like I think they said they wrote the ultimate Johnny Carson joke. Yeah. And they put it in the show. The Coast Guard arrested Boy George for scraping the barnacles off his dinghy. Oh! Hiya! Hiya! I like how Bart tries to say hi.

I love cute little Bart Middle East. You should really listen to the Gilbert Godfrey podcast with Mike Reese. He talks about his time on that show and how he basically had one meeting with Johnny Carson. You go into his office, and it's like you're on his talk show. You kind of sit in the same places, and apparently he was not a fun guy to work

with. You sit in a love seat next to him. I feel like I gotta listen to that just because Mike Reese and Gilbert Godfrey seem like brothers. They're very similar dudes. So in 1992 I guess 80s nostalgia felt fresher then.

We've now lived through 20 years of 80s nostalgia felt fresher then like we've now lived through 20 years of 80s nostalgia after this it's never gone away this is that awesome period I like to call it feels more 70s nostalgia just because I was there I didn't get any of these fucking jokes

I don't remember who ran for what office or what the commercials were well this was news to me as a kid because I was 2 in 84 so I didn't remember any of these things I had no clue what the commercials were. Well, this was news to me as a kid because I was two in 84, so I didn't remember any of these things. I had no clue what the final episode of M.A.S.H. was or Chip Witches or any of that stuff. Like I married Marge,

it was a fun window into a world I never got to experience, really. My brain was not formed enough in 83. Sometimes I worry when we do our show looking back on things like, oh, people aren't going to understand this. I didn't understand any of this shit or half the stuff that came out of

the mouths of the robots in Mystery Science Theater 2000, but it always made me more curious. Yeah, yeah. I would ask parents or, like, go on USA and try to watch the movies. Also, Bart's barely two, maybe two, and Homer strangles him. Yeah. That has to be the youngest it's ever been. Oh, and I did like at the very beginning, Homer's asking Maggie to say daddy. So it's a through line the entire episode.

That's good to story tell. It's pretty great. And I just love young Bart so much. Got your nose. Got your wallet. No! Bart, don't you ever do that again. Understand?

Beep. Guess what, homie? There's going to be twice as much love in this house as there is now. We're going to start doing it in the morning? No. Oh. We're going to have another baby. Marge, that's...

Bye-bye, keys. Bow! Get another bow! Do we have a name for that yet? I always call it Bow whoa geez the first the first dough kind of yeah it was first heard again in the first episode but it's sometimes easy to forget because homer is hitting his head on metal as he's doing it after santa's little helper loses so bad i mean this episode is really packed with a lot of things but it's it's kind of weird that homer

is not concerned about another child as he was concerned about having a barge it's like oh relaxed and it felt like one of those moments where they just say like hey look everybody knows lisa's going to be born that's the reason they're telling the story so let's not introduce tension there like marge just shows up like yeah we're having lisa that's why it's much more interesting with maggie they get actual tension out of it i'm saying like we really don't need a third kid just watching this again homer seems like just happy with his life at this point which is strange we don't actually see him in the plan or anything like that in this episode i mean the more children he has the worse uh money issues happen and the more stressed out he gets children are the cause of problems yes sorry mom uh in this episode this the scene has like one of

another i like to point these out even though no one probably cares, another super 80-yard conversation between Marge and Homer. Oh my god, yeah. The mother shaboo-boo joke, which I think is stupid. Yeah. And it's just like, it's cute. I'm afraid we're going to need a bigger place. No we won't.

I've got it all figured out. The baby can have Bart's crib, and Bart can sleep with us until he's 21. Won't that warp him? My cousin Frank did it. You don't have a cousin, Frank. He became Francine back in 76. Then he joined that cult.

I think his name is Mother Shabubu now. That scene is just the same for eight seconds twice. I guess they didn't really sell it for me. I think Shabubu is just like, you couldn't have tried harder? It seems like a joke from another show. It does, yeah. It really reminded me of how they did it this year's, this season, season four's, Treehouse of

Horror, of just like that was a real vaudeville kind of set up, like, you don't have a brother you don't have a cousin Frank. Well, it's just now, it reminded me of the Froggert thing back and forth. There's one that's even more like that in the next episode for sure. I didn't research this.

I meant to. I've always, ever since I heard Bart sing Itsy Bitsy Spider, I tried to sing it like that. Is that a real medley that exists, this thing? Hey, Bart. Want a dollar? Uh-uh-uh. You know what I want to hear?

I'm a little teapot, short and stout. This is my handle, this is my spout. Itsy bitsy spider went up the water spout. Oh yeah. Love that spout medley. I think it's just Bart vamping. I think it is too. They gave Bart a weird sort of Bobby Hill-ish zest for entertainment in these episodes.

I like how he does Cockney accents and things like that. I feel like that's just an extension of Bart being weird. And again, this whole show is revelatory. I mean, Talking Simpsons is a podcast. I love comparing how I was to Bart because I felt rejected by a lot of people. I felt like a lot of people didn't like me. And it's really interesting to go back and like, I was really annoying it wasn't just you chris it was every little boy who was too i think because like just this is this is this this is who i was i am so great i am so great

everybody loves me i am so great honey everybody honey could you please be quiet? Quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet. Bar, get out! I love banging pots and pans together. I turned everything into a song. Give me this, give me that. Jesus. I mean, when I'm around kids that are this age, I feel like a good majority of them are like this.

Are they? Yeah, I mean, public places. I don't know too many good kids. Yeah, city kids, I think, are quieter. Chris always says that he identifies with bart on this show this is one of the episodes as a kid i most identified with bart because the sibling yeah i had bart's two years older than his little sibling i'm three years older than my brother but it was the same deal like you're you're smart enough to you're

conscious enough to be like i'm getting, I'm losing attention to this kid. But you aren't old enough to know that this is a person you'll be with for the rest of your life. You don't know it's important. You're just like, I don't like this new thing. I can say it now because I always like, no, I'm not jealous. I totally was. And I never got over it. I always resented my sister. I'm the bastard who got all the attention. I still do.. I totally was. And I never got over it. I always resented my sister.

I'm the bastard who got all the attention, and I still do. Take that, sister. She was three years younger, an emotional little girl, and you don't pick me up. I remember feeling like, you don't pick me up anymore. Fuck her. I don't get the crib anymore. And also, I was losing attention to him because he was a sick baby. And as a kid, I didn't know that was something I should feel empathy for.

I was just like, you're clearly not paying attention to me. I don't care how much he has an ear infection every week. And also, we were sharing a room at that point, so he never slept. He was always crying, which was really sucky for them involved. But as a three-year-old, I was just like, this is the worst what a bad let's take him back i just remember it's like a four-year-old him still having it and watching the uh the monkey detective show on nick at night uh lancelot link lancelot link it's on hulu it is it you want to make your show hold up have it star only monkeys i was gonna say it's great can you feel the animal abuse coming through the airways because i haven't watched that show in 25 years probably there's not a lot of like

physical stuff though it's just that thing where they're off screen if you've ever seen behind the scenes and those monkey stuff they just yell and use open their hands talk talk talk talk talk and like it sounds really annoying but that's how they train knowing how vicious chimpanzees are i wonder how many people are maul on that set. Oh, my God. They can't start with people. Having their faces ripped off. Bart's dropped off with Patty and Selma so they can go house hunting, which leads to a really fun just series of visits to houses. And first off, Stinky Fish Realty is a funny name.

It's an underrated joke name. With a name this bad, we have to be good. Is that what it is? Yeah. Which is great. And this is one of my favorite. I would give this line of the? Yeah. Which is great. And this is one of my favorite. I would give this line of the show, but it's the visual gag that's one of my favorite jokes. Once you get used to the smell of melted hog fat, you'll wonder how you ever did without it.

Mmm, hog fat. That quick cutaway to him at the hog plant factory. You smell that, and it just pans to Homer. For some reason homer uh smells worse than a rendering rendering plant in a rendering plant mainly turn left at the rendering plant the the commentaries are even kind of bashful about it like we made him stupid we made him fat but we also had to make him smell the worst his hygiene has been questioned for a long time they kind of did that with jay sherman a little too like he would become the stinkiest

man ever or the sweatiest or the fattest man. I mean, he was just a disgusting creature by the end of it on that show. That's why they had to walk it back some in the season two premiere of, like, we have to make him thinner, funnier, less horrid. Bigger eyes. I know how it feels, just those few times I've gone to Japan in the summer. Oh, wow, I'm the fattest, stinkiest, most disgusting person here. Sweatiest, too.

I'm gross. Well, that's a warning if you ever go to Japan and you're a white person, I'll just say, because you better pack deodorant because Japanese deodorant is not strong enough for you, at least not the stuff you can buy in a convenience store. Also, a three-peat sea captain is back! Three episodes in a row this dude yeah

and this is the closest he's been to actually being on the sea in these three episodes first he runs a dog you can eat fish place then he's selling his cheese this time he's selling a house boat but technically it is chronologically his first appearance because it's 1984 c or 83 sea captain wow showing it so they should have recognized him as like wasn't that the guy it is chronologically his first appearance because it's 1984 or 83 Sea Captain showing it. So they should have recognized him. Wasn't that the guy who tried to sell us a houseboat and then was killed by a shark? Yeah. I thought about him only because... That's right, I never

thought of that. Yeah. Recently voted for the first time living in San Francisco for 10 years. We had to vote for the Harbormaster. What the fuck is that? I've always heard... Captain McAllister? That's like when you fill out your taxes. Like, how many bulldozers do you own?

It's like, why is this here? The Simpsons will be right back. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care.

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Not a good job there, Stinky Fish Realty. Then we get to see Abe is less old, though he looks more old with the gray hair, I'd say. This is one of my favorite scenes in the whole episode. They can't afford the Simpsons house, the 742 Evergreen Terrace, even though that's called another house next episode. So triple bypass 742 Evergreen Terrace is where Snake is hiding out. Yeah, but this is the Simpsons house, and they can't afford it, so Homer's got to come to Grandpa for the money.

Dad, I have a problem. Why'd you come to me I don't know nothing I used to get by on my looks now they're gone withered away like an old piece of fruit are you done no not yet I was voted the handsomest boy in Albany, New York. Dad, I don't need advice. I need $15,000 to buy a home. Oh, well, all I own is this house that I built with my own two hands. You didn't build this house.

You won it on a crooked 50s game show. I ran it on everybody and got off scot-free. Ha-ha! High five. All right, son. I'll sell this dump and write you a check. Dad, first you gave me life. Now you've given me a home for my family.

I'd be honored if you came to live with us. Thank you. So how long before you ship Grandpa off to the old folks' home? About three weeks. That's a good act break. We should really talk about... Such a mean act break. We laughed for so long. That Grandpa's pain and loneliness.

We should really talk about the Quiz Show scandal, which became a movie two years later, right? It did. I just watched it. I've never seen it. It's really good. I watched it because it was the first year... I thought it was 96. I read 94. Okay. Well, it was the first year I watched every Oscar-nom the first year. I thought it was 96. I read 94. Okay.

Well, it was the first year I watched every Oscar-nominated film, which I did for about 15 years straight. Or every Best Picture nominee. You're going to do it this year? It's 10 movies. It's so hard, man. I'll just steal more this time. There you go. So I knew about this after the episode, but but i never heard of the quiz show scandal and how it killed quiz shows on like game shows on tv for like 20 years yeah yeah but bob what's the short

for apparently so there were two 64 000 game shows on the air in the early 50s one was called the 64 000 question one was called 21 21 was in the top 10 but they wanted to be as popular as the other 64 000,000 game show. I don't know why they chose $64,000. It's a weird amount to land on. Like the most money anyone could imagine. But it's still referenced. I guess maybe my parents.

That's the $64,000 question. I hear that a lot. So this 21 game show wanted to be number one. And they landed upon a guy who could be the face of their show like a very charismatic esteemed professor they kicked off john totoro oh is that who he played no john totoro was the guy he he ratted everybody out okay because he said he said like how do you know they're feeding people the answers like because they gave me all the answers yeah the loser is the one who ratted the people out and you know disgraced He was ugly. If the quiz show is

exactly true, he was their first chosen winner, then they made him take a dive because they found a more handsome and great finds waspy a-hole. Voldemort at his prettiest. And there was another quiz show scandal with a future guest, Dr. Joyce Brothers, who they tried to stop

her from winning by choosing questions outside of her field of knowledge but she still won the $64,000 question so this happened more than once and like you said Henry this killed the format for about 15 years until it came back again. I mean we still don't have a trivia I mean just Jeopardy that's it. Well Jeopardy is like a

70s or 80s thing. It comes in and out because you know it was pretty dead after the scandal but then the 70s they really came back. And one of my favorite things to do when I had time to waste was watching old 70s things on a game show network where they'd win like, you won $300. Congrats.

It's like a Double Dare prize. If you're my age, it is very easy to disappear into Double Dare. You know all the questions, and you love all the products. Then in the 80s, Merv Griffin started things like Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy. And then, of course, in the 90s, we had Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? And that caused a mega boom of non-syndicated network game shows. Weakest Link. 21 actually came back, hosted by Connie Chung's husband.

Maury Povich. Maury Povich, yeah. But it's like now every reality game show has to be rigged, right? I mean, like, this feels like a more innocent time

with like, TV lied to me, oh God. I think people, I only remember, this wasn't even recently, the last comic standing. Like, some of the comics

who went on, like, I thought I was voting for the comedian I thought was the best. went on like i thought i was voting for the comedian i thought was the best and like no the producers have an idea of yeah who's gonna we want this guy you want this guy and it's it's still on the air and i think people know that and just don't care well and also a lot of the people on are like managed by the same person it's ultimately a show it's a joke factory that's what it's supposed to be yeah i mean doug benson when he was on it joked about how like oh yeah it what it's supposed to be. Yeah, they just watch comedy. I mean, Doug Benson, when he was on it, joked about how, like, oh, yeah, it's stupid.

Like, I'm kind of famous and I'm on the show. So when they come back from the break, Homer misremembers a Lucy episode, which I got that joke because I was watching old I Love Lucy's on there. Though I missed, I, as a kid, watching them all at the same time. I preferred the Ricky episodes when she divorced Ricky and was just hanging out with Mr. Moody. Like, Mr. Moody's fun, but it's just not as, I don't know, him as a foil for her is just not as fun. Yeah, and we hear another Lucy show reference when Oyster Lucy pops up in the next season. Another Jeff Martin episode. Yeah, okay.

This guy loves his Lucy. I like that they referenced the more obscure Lucy sitcom. Not I love Lucy, but of course her voice is a lot funnier on the Lucy show. And Mr. Mooney later just becomes a character on The Simpsons. Oh yeah, you're right.

I'm literally stalling before we can get to this part because this is so big. Oh wait, we do get to see the first time Homerer met ned and the thing with the tv tray was great that homer immediately just steals his tv tray and then bart i am sure i was bart and todd in different scenarios where a new kid was friendly to me i'm like me or i'm trying to be friendly to a new kid and i get shoved i'm sure it was both of those i love that homer that's establish establishes Homer still driving around in his car from high school.

Oh yeah. I forgot. That's right. Yeah. I thought he saw that. And it is weird continuity because Rod and Todd and Bart and Lisa are roughly the same age. Always have been,

but Lisa is not born and Rod and Todd are fully grown. And they exist. Yeah. That's weird. And Todd is the same age as Bart, me and Rod is older. So it's more like 12, it's weird. And Todd is the same age as Bart. Me and Rod is older. So it's more like 12, 10, 8. I'm just proud that somebody here knew the difference.

Way to go, Hank. They don't know the difference. They tried to make the Flanders as corny as possible. They come into the house singing a Wizard of Oz song. And Flanders has an I Love Webster t-shirt. I'm sure that shirt never existed. He probably had it made at the mall. So kids, what do you want to play?

Good Samaritan! I get to clothe the leper! Lucky! Supper time, boys! Oh boy, liver! Iron helps us play! That's my quote of the show. Is it?

Iron helps us play! I skipped my... I've got the joy, joy, joy, joy down in my heart. Where? Down in my heart to stay. Ow. It's hard to listen to. And if the devil doesn't like it, he can sit on a tack.

Ouch. Sit on a tack. Ouch. Jeff Martin claims that is a real song from summer Bible camp that he went to. Yeah, I went to summer Bible camp. And the amount of songs I could rattle off for you. Joshua fought the battle of Jericho. I've heard of that one, yeah. But, I went to Suburb Bible Camp and the amount of songs I could rattle off for you. Joshua fought the battle of Jericho.

I've heard of that one, yeah. But that's what we did. We sang these all the time. It's a real song. I think Pop-O-Matic should have become the standard for games. Like, you don't have

to lose dice. They're right there. It's easy. See what I'm saying? Chipwitch, yeah. So we have to get to the Olympics. I mean, it is like

the D story. It's like we get two scenes of it, really. Maybe three. And they, it is like the D story. It's like we get two scenes of it, really. Maybe three. And they're my favorite, as you'll see. It's great. But this is Krusty announcing a contest involving the 1984 Olympics. Yeah, Homer's just watching Krusty.

Not with Bart. I feel like it's Bart's first time he got to see Krusty. And so they don't even spotlight it. But it is Bart falling in love with Krusty and making Krusty his hero. But Homer is just watching Krusty on his own. He's like, yeah, I have time off. I'm drinking a beer watching. We are watching Bart discover Krusty.

Yeah. It's in the clip. Hey, kids. Summer's just around the corner, and Krusty Burger is the official meat-flavored sandwich of the 1984 Olympics. Krusty funny is the official meat-flavored sandwich of the 1984 Olympics. Krusty funny. Duh. It's all part of our Krusty Burger Olympic sweepstakes. Just scratch off the name of the Olympic event on your game card,

and if America wins a gold medal, you win a free Krusty Burger. And cut. I almost swallowed some of the juice. Oh. I'll be tasting that for weeks. Great spot, Casey. Put a sock in it, Preppy. How much are these free burgers going to cost me?

Not to worry, Mr. K. We rigged the cards. They're all in events that communists never lose. I like. I like. You just came over the ys big k uh-huh soviet boycott u.s unopposed in most events how does this affect our giveaway let's see you personally stand to lose 44 million dollars how is crusty reading from that paper? He can't read.

That's my big one. In 1984, he's reading from that paper. $44 million in 1984 is $93 million in 2016. And there's a lot to unpack here. There is the Olympics boycott, and there's the actual promotion. This is parodying. Where do we want to start with this? I don't know because this is sort of talking about, I think, three Olympics.

No, no. Maybe two. America sat out the 1980 Olympics. And in response, America and 64 countries sat out the 80 Olympics. And then Russia sat out the USSR sat out 84.

Yeah, that really did happen. No, they sat out 80 USSR 84 yeah that really did happen no no they sat out 80 because it was in Moscow yeah we sat out 80 and 64 countries and America hated Jimmy Carter for doing that among many other things yeah in 84 Russia cited security concerns and quote unquote chauvinistic sentiments

and an anti-Soviet hysteria being whipped up in the United States so 13 countries joined them in the boycott in 84. You're completely wrong. We considered it revenge for 80 because we would not go there and a bunch of people joined us. And like I said, 13 countries joined the Soviet Union. And it was really just like a pissing contest between capitalism and communism, I think.

But I'm just pointing this out now. Shun Fujimoto, who finished the pommel horse with a broken leg in the rings, that happened in 1976. But it's clearly parodied in the 1984 Olympics. And they say he's Korean in this, too. They obviously are not getting everything right. Dude, he won the team of gold with a broken leg. He didn't tell anybody.

I remember watching so many documentaries about Olympians who, when they talk about the 81, it's just this sad thing of like, I could have had five gold medals, but Jimmy Carter stole one from me. Dude, I don't know how economically being an Olympian makes sense. You try your best for four years. Maybe you make it. Is there any money in it? The hope is you'll get endorsements the rest of your life.

Or you'll be a coach or talk to high school kids or something like that. Talk to high school kids or something like that. Talk to high school kids. Well, that's also why this really was seen in the 2016 Olympics. It's in every Olympics. These people have worked their entire life to get gold. Silver is junk to them.

And there were ones like you saw in the wrestling. I forget what country they were from. I believe Mongolia. They lost by like a point by the judges. And the wrestler was so angry,

he stripped down to his underwear and yelled at the judges. And his coach did as well. Just like, fuck you. You cheated us. The promotion Krusty is referencing, you brought up medals and I had to research which medal got you what.

This is a very real McDonald's promotion. Yeah. And they got happened to them. They got screwed. Like Krusty Burger got screwed. There was the Russians. I think one, a majority of the gold medals,

the previous Olympics and everybody just assumed they'd be back. And if you've seen Rocky four, you understand what they were afraid of. Well, it was always America versus Russia. And they, they, it was a place of

war on that like that's why russian basketball teams they so i watched this whole documentary about uh team foxcatcher which they made the korea uh karel karel movie uh but documentary is way better in the documentary it's amazing and they talk about how american amateur wrestling could not touch communist amateur wrestling because the communists would just find kids in school and just like, okay, your job is wrestler now. We pay you to do this. We grow you to do this.

And while meanwhile in America, in a capitalist society, there's no money in being an amateur wrestler. So everybody who could be a gold medal winner is just like, well, what? I'm going to be poor and gold medal winner, is just like, well, I'm going to be poor and a gold medal winner. So that guy, the DuPont, he's heir to the DuPont fortune, just financed for years American Olympic wrestlers until he went schizophrenic

and shot them. And also doing cocaine all the time. It was drug schizophrenia. That documentary is real weird because he's filming himself talking about this. Was it a triathlon? Because that would have been

an appropriate film. I'm sorry. And also buried homosexuality too there's a lot watch the team fox fox but this is a very real mcdonald's promotion they uh it's gonna blow your minds if yeah here you go feel like you're part of the olympic action play mcdonald's when the u.s wins you win olympic games your event here boxing when the u.S. wins, you win Olympic games. What's your event here? Boxing. When the U.S. wins, I win. When the U.S. wins a middle in the event on your game card, you win a Big Mac.

Or regular fries. Or regular Coca-Cola. Or win up to $10,000 instantly. So go to McDonald's and collect your game cards, because when the U.S. wins, hey, you win. I'm in training. Wow. So the rumor goes that McDonald's really was taken aback by this,

and I don't know if I'd necessarily buy it that there were Big Mac shortages. If the U.S. won gold in the event on your card, you got a Big Mac. If they won silver, you got a small fries. And if they got bronze, you got a medium Coke. This is not that big an expense. And so in terms of what a promotion is, do you go into McDonald's to get a drink? You're probably going to end up buying a burger with a nice little markup from McDonald's. You don't just get fries either. Yeah, but they might just get a big mark.

But the promotion was not supposed to go this way. And people have reported it as one of the biggest marketing disasters ever. I would say this is exactly what they wanted. A huge swath of people going into McDonald's to get one product. You don't need one product at McDonald's, I wonder. Yeah, but I mean, they didn't want to give stuff away for free. This is why you don't see companies do things based on something they can't control like they can't control sports though well i say that though

they they do that in pizza i think it's papa john's does it of if this team get if every time there's no hitter we give away free pizza for like two hours i i've seen that no it's domino's did that because it's buy one sub get get one free at Subway day today. I don't want to alarm anybody. You want to cut this out early? I don't want a disgusting sandwich. You sure? You don't want that cold cut trio? 16 flavors of bologna? Well, there's free pancake day at IHOP every year

too, which like, oh boy, I can stand in line for two hours to get $8 of pancakes for free. There were reports of Big Mac shortages because there were too many US Golds ones. That's how Jeff Martin reported it too. In my Twitter research of reading what Jeff Martin tweeted

about this episode, he said there were Big Mac bun shortages. They were giving away too many. That's how he recalled it. That sweet, sweet middle bun. It's the hardest to find. I wish the woman who told Krusty the bad news is like this came out of the wire case uh big k that should have been miss penny i agree they dropped the

ball there but i love that he's called both casey and big k like fucking it was cute but one last thing about this commercial there's there's something about the sincerity and warmth of 80s commercials that make mcdonald's seem like a nice place to go i want to go to mcdonald's an article for halloween about the top five McDonald's Halloween promotions because national annual traditions, there are few Halloween national annual traditions outside of Great Pumpkin and McDonald's, a fucking haunted McNugget commercial.

Oh, yeah, I've seen that. It's been aired for 10 years. Oh, no wonder I remember it. Yeah, Happy Meal Pails. And I realized I hate McDonald's. It has a very horrible effect. I'm ethically and biologically opposed to McDonald's. If I eat it, I get hurt.

But I have so many pleasant memories associated with not only their characters and their food and their play places and their toys, but their commercials, their marketing as well. Yeah, no, their gauzy storytelling. And if you hadn't seen these commercials, they're all like chubby adults acting like Olympic athletes. They're shot very comedically and just nice, pleasant, very pleasant.

The mom was knocking out a boxer. Yep. But yeah, I found them pleasant. They made me want to open up a styrofoam container and eat McDonald's. Yeah. A big row of M's.

Oh, man. So this leads to what, it's my favorite line of the show, but I finally got to the bottom of something. Oh, cool. I've been dying. So I'm just going to give this the one of M's. Oh, man. So this leads to what... It's my favorite line of the show, but I finally got to the bottom of something. Oh, cool. I've been dying. So I'm just going to give this the line of the show. That's the joke. Oh, doctor, we are seconds away from the 100-meter butterfly.

And with the East German women shaving their backs 9,000 miles away, the Americans are heavy favorites. Patience, my pet. And the Americans jump out to an early lead. Although we should point out that many of the other women represent countries that don't have swimming pools.

Boo hoo. You're breaking my heart. So the real winner of the 100 meter butterfly in 1984 was a gold won by America. Mary Terstegi-Mager won it with a time of

59 seconds. 59.26 seconds. And she was at the time a record holder in the women's 100 meter. That's the fact there uh oh also we we did skip past we heard it earlier the clown bed yeah it's one of the most beautiful moments in the series that i feel like our generation all joked about scary clowns i felt like it started

with this like can't sleep clown leet me i was i was always afraid of clowns like by yeah Mike Reese it's based on my Greece's dad building him a clown bed that terrified him as a child too but we are entering in that weird era of shitty baby boomers who are buying our kids things

that we like I think we are we are to April Fool think geek April Fool's days away from this crib being for sale I mean oh god you're right generation of kids they could grow up in like 20 years, they'll say,

remember when Dad dressed me up in a fucking Tauntaun costume? I was forged in irony. Mike Reese's saying about clowns was kids are scared of them and adults think they're stupid, so what the hell good are they? Yeah, I agree. There's some things, this is all personal

bluster. Harry Shearer as the the commentator he makes me laugh so much yes boohoo you're breaking my heart uh but not just that i read we recently did an episode on the olympics one of the tragedies involving the 1980 olympics uh steve the guy who created tron created a little movie called animal olympics that me and my friends loved growing up. And they made it in the late 70s to premiere for the 1980 Olympics because they cancelled the Summer Olympics. No one got to see the second half of Animal Olympics

until it finally made the rounds to HBO. Independent people helped finance it. But it's this lost movie just owned by no one. It's free. Free to watch on YouTube. But what it contains here is one of my favorite finds uh harry shearer was just an actor uh and he but in animal olympics in all creatures great and small there resides the spirit of athletic competition.

From the heights of Mount Animalimpus, the flame begins its journey through the four corners of the animal kingdom, bringing with it drama, joy, and sorrow. The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat. And now, live via satellite Animal Olympics Love that music I don't know if it's Keith Jackson

Keith Jackson Or Vince Scully Impression I got to the bottom of it Ooh okay So that's why I feel Thank you for indulging me For Animal Olympics

I think it's great You can watch it anytime On YouTube I wrote a big article on it During the Olympics Animal Olympics The forgotten cartoon About animals in the Olympics. It was really fun to write.

But yeah, if it wasn't for Animal Olympics and the Olympics, Harry Shearer as a voice actor might not have happened. Wow. And so that's the opening of the film, narrated by Harry Shearer and his Kent Brockman newscaster announced her voice. So I finally want to get to the bottom of that. Jesus Christ, I'm plugging too much stuff.

We had a trailer for our Fantasy Fight series, Season 2 we called it, that goes up every Sunday on youtube.com slash lasertime, where we pit different IP against each other within the engine and custom character creation of WWE 2K17. We used the Animal Olympics song. That's beautiful.

But I use an announcer voice the entire time and always open up with O Doctor. And so I have Googled this for years. Thank God Google has gotten better because I've never been able to find anything. I finally did. It's a shitty clip, but it is Red Barber.

Red Barber. A man named Red Barber, a famous announcer, and this is a clip, and I cannot believe this exists, from the 1947 World Series. Joe DiMaggio hits the ball almost out of the park. barely hear it it's a long one deep in the left center back for jean-pito back back back back back back he makes a one-handed catch against the bullpen

that oh doctor originates in 1947 by a man named Red Barber. He's a very famous baseball announcer. I don't think the writers know that. They keep citing Keith Jackson. Maybe Carrie Shearer knows it, but I don't think they do. O Doctor, I did my best to get to the bottom of it. His wiki page now attributes it to Red Barber. Red Barber, not Barker. That's amazing.

And I'm retiring from the show. Thank you very much. Oh, we're going to, yeah, we're digging so deep. Now, they worked hard to get things accurate to 1984, but an hour-long episodes of Mama's Family would not have aired in the summer of 1984 because the show ran for two seasons from 82 to 84, canceled in 84, April was its last episode in 84,

and was renewed in first run syndication in 86 with basically only three of the actors brought back. I don't know why. I love this show. I've watched the entire run probably six or seven times as a kid. And like we just bought an over the air antenna. Had no idea in San Francisco I was going to get 70 channels.

Mama's Family is on pretty frequently and there is not a moment that I flip through and yes it must have been the cheapest show ever now here's the thing though my question is Homer has to go take Marge to the hospital he's happy that an hour long Mama's Family is going to be on is he happy he's going to miss it

or does he think he's going to watch it let's listen to it I think the baby's coming wow a baby and a free burger could this be the best day of my life coming up next an hour-long episode of mama's family yes i think homer would enjoy mama's family no that i'm fine with you want to know the real anachronism here what's that we watched i bought the over-the-air antenna jesus for the olympics because my girlfriend wanted to watch it I also have sling the Olympics was

covered on NBC NBC Sports fucking Bravo so like I went and tried to research how did one channel air the Olympics when all these events are happening simultaneously live and it wasn't you wouldn't break the Olympics for any episode a double episode of Mama's family yeah that would never

happen yes i'm just saying in 2016 it took at least five channels to cover most of the olympics well the reason that mama's family joke is in there is is because it felt like just time filler didn't like another joke they had yeah because they only mouth them going yes homer's mouth movement of is this the greatest day of my life, seemed off too. Yeah, I didn't catch that. And him saying hour-long episode of Mama's Family is reused animation from later in the episode

when he talks about boxing. It's just a Frankenstein together scene. I'd love to know what the original joke was in that place. I mean, it's funny to make fun of someone would be excited about Mama's Family, a show which no one had any, probably any happy feelings about in 92. It's like...

I think I loved it immediately because it's a woman who's clearly not an old lady. Yes. Yeah. And it's very broad. And she's the star. She was the original Madea. Yeah. The white Madea.

Except not in drag. I mean, she was like, it was like a woman in drag. It was a drag performance. Vicki Lawrence. Vicki Lawrence doing her kind of Carol Burnett-ish impersonation. Oh. And it actually came from a very depressing made-for-TV movie, like an extremely dark comedy. I think it was named after the family.

If you look it up, you'll find it. But you can watch it all on YouTube. It's like a very dark and sad comedy. I think it was named after the family. If you look it up, you'll find it. But you can watch it all on YouTube. It's like a very dark and sad comedy. But they lightened it up as the seasons went on. Here we go. But Lisa is born. It's another really old reference that I never got until I bothered to look into it.

Little Lisa, I've already started you a college fund at Lincoln Savings and Loan. According to this magazine, Bart might be jealous of her. Yeah, well, Bart can kiss my hairy yellow butt. That's a little extreme. I think you mentioned that

the Simpsons acknowledging their skin color to our eyes, yellow butt. But Savings and Loans, that joke had to be explained to me in 1992. I had to ask my dad, because I have somewhat recently, in the last few years, fallen in love with watching It's a Wonderful Life at least three times over

the holidays. And savings and loans are good. In the movie, the savings and loan is the hero. It's the bank that's awful. I'm like, holy shit. There was a difference? And my dad had to explain it to me. There's a lot of nuance that we're missing now. But the savings and loan were essentially ruined by Lincoln's savings and loan

because the government... It was central to the Keating Five, which defrauded hundreds of millions of dollars, which compared to the big short is nothing. It's just like, oh, hundreds of millions of dollars? In 1983 money. Yeah. Sorry, this all went bust, went tits up in 89. So that's the joke, is that Homer invested all of his money in a place that is going to go bankrupt. The government is going to have to bail out this is referencing homer at the bat the signs in the stadium some of them say uh springfield savings and loans scandal free since

91 or since like 90 or something like that so they like this joke and i also i think it was somewhat uncomfortable for me to ask about it in 92 because my dad had worked i would later find out my dad had worked at a savings and loan in the 80s doing the that probably was engaged in some of these practices yeah it was a savings and loan that was uh i think bought out eventually by a construction agency so the very place it's supposed to provide homes for people is bought by the i don't know exactly what happened but it says it went bankrupt in 1989 more than 21 000 mostly elderly investors lost their life savings the total came to about $285 million,

largely because investors held securities backed by the parent company. I learned about it some in the mid-2000s because a Bush family member was a major part of it. I forget which one, and people brought up how, wait, a Bush family member was responsible for this horrible thing, and he got a slap on the wrist while his dad was vice president or whatever. Everything Hillary is being accused of doing with her emails, George W. Bush did. And everything Martha Stewart went to jail for, George W. Bush did.

That never happened, Chris. My bad, my bad. Eight years, never happens. My bad. We can't count it anymore. They choose to forget it, too. Yeah. Republicans would prefer to not mention him, but now their current candidate may be there.

It's going to be over by the time this airs. Oh, God. I hope so. Yeah, this will be a happy election night gift. But, you know what? If you want to talk to me about emails, please speculate what you think is in them first. Because if it's just that they're emails, and every president did it after Clinton did it, it doesn't really... When you really care about someone,

you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care?

What am I talking about? Speaking of politics. Uh-oh. Here we go. Mondale to heart. I was hoping, I knew, I had faith one of you guys would get this. I got it. I saved this newspaper from the day Lisa was born.

Mondale to heart. Where's the beef? Where's the beef? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Where's the beef? No wonder he won Minnesota. I was like Bart in this of like, I don't know these names of people. I knew Reagan had been president. I was aware Bart in this of like, I don't know these names of people.

I knew Reagan had been president. I was aware of that. But how would you know the person who was historically lost really badly to him? Mondale and Hart? Mondale was the one who ended up with it. He ended up being the Democratic nominee. So this moment they're talking about, which I actually was shocked to find out was a real thing that happened. It wasn't a joke. It wasn't a reference to a Wendy's commercial. It still is. It was a real thing that happened it wasn't a joke it wasn't a reference

to a wendy's commercial it still is it was a reference to sorry but the simpsons joke wasn't just a reference no no it was in in uh the democratic primary they had uh you know a debate between all of them even back in 1984 they did that except they're all sitting down and it's a lot it's a little more relaxed like a a Dick Cavett show, just smoking cigarettes, answering questions. They might as well be, yeah. And as I recall the story, Gary Hart was actually the early favorite until he was in a boating sex scandal, which makes grabbing by the pussies, look, it's nothing compared to grabbing by the pussies. But why have a boat?

He just had a mistress. Yeah, I was like, oh, a consensual mistress. Cool. But anyway, so that tanked his thing and it ended up with Mondale in charge. But so this was March 11th, 1984. During the debate,

there's this moment. When I hear your new ideas, I'm reminded of that ad. Where's the beef? Let's keep going. You know? He was so proud of himself over that awful joke. He got a huge laugh at a debate.

He just, like, smiled to himself immediately after that. I cut it because I started it earlier. There was, like, five seconds of him stammering to say, you know this, you know that, you know, like, because he's got that in the pocket the whole time. He's this, you know that, you know, like, because he's got that in the pocket the whole time. He's like, when Gary Hart mentions this plan, I'm going to ask him where's the beef and it'll be huge.

Homer chuckles about where's the beef when he gets the honor roll sticker when he goes to the PTA. And like, we should explain what that is. It's a Wendy's commercial from the early 80s. The Simpsons is referencing a reference. Yeah. An old woman demands to know where the beef is when she gets a l's commercial from the early 80s. The Simpsons is referencing a reference. Yeah. An old woman demands to know where the beef is

when she gets a lousy burger at a different burger chain. Because Wendy's will have more meat on their burgers where you will get more meat on a burger at Wendy's compared to McDonald's.

Anybody wants to know, I worked at both. So yes, you absolutely, I was not skilled enough to work at Wendy's because of how hard it was to make their burgers.

They're square, what do I do? I love them square burgers. You think they're square because they come out of a factory assembly line. No, you have to physically make it square and keep it square. And so if that was the newspaper on Lisa's birthday, that was

on March 11th, but at night. So that would have been printed in the next day's paper. So Lisa's birthday, by my deduction, is March 12th, 1984. But if it happens coinciding with the Olympics, it's in July or August. Unfortunately, Lisa is still eight years old, so under this metric. Well, maybe the Springfield.

Then again, if I was to make this up, the Springfield Gazette misprinted that in July for some reason. They would have just had a line where Homer said, I can't believe they reprinted thated that in July for some reason. They would have just had Lineware Homer said, I can't believe they reprinted that old newspaper in July. Lisa's reaction to getting kissed by Patty, just the one eye

can't open, it's sealed shut by the lipstick. I hope that's the album, Mark. Okay, you asked for it. And I did love the repetition of phrases. They shouldn't have done it twice, but I think it's overshadowed because monorail in two episodes or three episodes will do that better, you know, the repetition of old lines.

And, oh, I love Krusty's on-air response to people using his promotions. Welcome back to the final day of this, the 23rd Olympiad, brought to you by Krusty Burger. You people are pigs. I personally am going to spit in every 50th burger. I like those odds. Homer's on board. Eating clown spit.

A couple more Olympic facts here. Drederick Tatum wins the gold in this but in reality the american that won the heavyweight boxing gold was henry tillman he did not have a very good professional career after that but olympic boxing is bullshit anyway why well this happened in 2016 as well there's this amazing footage look it up of irish fighter clearly won, but the Russian judge was like, no, no, or just people who were friendly to the other nation voted, judged them as the winner, and he just immediately threw off his shirt, gave the double bird to the judges, and was just on the mic in an interview going like, I'm swearing I don't fucking care, but this is all fucking bullshit.

It's all fucking rigged, and I'm going to have an awesome career anyway so fuck the olympics wow like we're about to leave the olympics behind uh watching this again i was a little uh concerned like can they say the olympics this much they never showed the rings but i wonder if they were not as litigious back then yeah are they now oh yeah yeah yeah big time they why would you want to keep people from talking i never understand you know how much i mean of course you know chris they just destroy whatever city Oh, yeah. Big time. Why would you want to keep people from talking? I never understand that. The Olympics, do you know how much, I mean, of course you know, Chris. They just destroy whatever city they go to. It's like a horrible organization.

A really slow Godzilla. I mean, this year you saw people get their Twitter account suspended because they- Oh, for GIFs. Like, just GIFs. Like, you stole this GIF. I thought that was NBC, though. It could have been NBC, but they're doing that as part of the olympics i'm sure the olympic committee is enforcing it and i love the jokes in this episode of the official blank of

the olympics the official by which is still a thing now absolutely a thing yeah also in the 84 olympics in boxing evander holyfield was supposed to get the silver but got screwed by a shitty judge again and he ended up with bronze. Real deal with the bronze? I don't accept that shit. And also the line, Carl Lewis, I could kiss you. That is a reference to, in 1984, Carl Lewis, the most golds won ever by an American in running. And he did it.

He tied it, but it didn't get him a ton of money. He he had to do it again in 88 to become is that the record usain bolt just beat i think so i think so but that's also watch the 30 for 30 9.79 asterix because it it shows you that carl lewis is a piece of shit because he uh the short version of it is in the 88 olymp Carl Lewis was definitely going to win. He's like, this is my year. I'm getting it. And he tried to undermine his competing runners as much as he could, including ratting out another runner for using steroids, which he was. But the secret was that everybody was using steroids and they would be sued if they said it outright in the film.

But they all but say Carl Lewis was absolutely doing human growth hormones and steroids doing it. They just can't prove it. And he's a fucking liar who's killed some other guy's chances. Look at him run. And also that he's like a closet case. That also is the closest thing they say. So I don't have much respect for Carl Lewis anymore. So Wiggin could kiss him, conceivably.

Yeah. He'd like it. Wow, I cannot believe we got an hour to this. Bart looks so sinister when he's pulling out those shears, the clippers. Yeah, a lot of great visual gags that don't work in audio form, but I love his relationship with Lisa. Oh, it's so sweet. We get rid of her.

Him just throwing her out in not a cartoon, year old throwing out a two month old into the street or into a mailbox into a mailbox that's a tragedy it suggests one of the most white trash shitty parents I can possibly imagine they should be in jail that's two two toddlers like unattended Marge is the stay at home mom too

what are you doing Marge? your failure as a mother Marge but this is still a wonderfully sweet scene I liked it when it was me mom and Homer you wrecked everything Yeah, your failure as a mother, Marge. But this is still a wonderfully sweet scene. I liked it when it was me, Mom, and Homer. You wrecked everything. I'm leaving. Goodbye.

Bart. What did you say? Bart? Submarine Succotash, you can talk. Mom, Dad, she can talk. Say it again, Lise. Bart. Bart, Bart, Bart, Bart, Bart. I'm her, Lisa. Bite. Bite, bite, bite, bite, bite.

I'm her first word. Well, I'm not surprised. Lisa's crazy about you. She thinks you hung the moon. Wow. Lisa, can you say mommy? Mommy. Can you say David Hasselhoff?

David Hasselhoff. Can you say daddy? Homer. No, sweetie. Daddy. Homer. No! Love Lisa's expression.

The quizzical expression when she asked him to say daddy. Yeah, Yardley's baby voice is so great. It's really cute. It is a heartwarming moment to see that Lisa liked Bart and they had a friendship at that point. And also, Jeff Martin had this to say about the David Hasselhoff line. Jeff Martin tweeted this. I met

David Hasselhoff a couple of years ago. When he found out I wrote this one, he hugged me. And yes, he smelled good. I bet he would. I guess we missed the through line of this episode is that Bart would not call Homer daddy. Lisa will not call Homer daddy. So, I mean, we've been explaining a lot of references

I think need to be explained. Yeah, daddy is not her word anyway and she should not try to take it from the marginalized group. That's a reference to... I have no idea what you're talking about. Daddy is problematic. Yeah, but fuck it, forget it. That's our word.

So, Elizabeth Taylor. Yeah. But fuck it. Forget it. That's our word. So Elizabeth Taylor. Yeah. How did this happen? I mean, was she in? They wanted a famous person to be the voice of it. Just say one word. Just say one word. And there was the reaction of like, that's it?

Like, what did they think she would say? It was really sweet. Because the Bart not saying that, like calling Homer Homer, was already established, right? Yeah. He'd been calling him Homer the whole time. But in another episode. In other episodes, yeah. Homer, homeboy.

So his children have not called him daddy ever. So it's a really good payoff if you think of it like that. I mean, Lisa calls him dad more often. But daddy. No one will call him dad. And it was never a first word. And it's something he's been denied his whole life. And still is being denied.

Because I believe Maggie has spoken on several occasions. Yeah. But this is the first time. This is the first time, but nobody was around to hear it. If a tree falls in the woods, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to say screw the movie for recording this. The first observed word is sequel. Yeah.

I hate that joke. It happened before that and multiple other episodes. Yeah, but they were dream sequences, right? I don't think so. I mean, they go into like a 10-year span of The Simpsons that I have not seen. I'm talking about before this, though. Before this, this was her first said word out loud. But what I didn't know until doing the research of this was the trouble of getting her to say daddy.

Had you heard this before, Bob? Well, the commentary says it's like she was too sexy saying daddy. Because it's like one of the world's most beautiful women. Elizabeth Taylor, we said that? Elizabeth Taylor, yeah. And she had to re-record it many times. And so I'm just going to read straight from the wiki here. Several sources, including John Ortveds, the Simpsons history article in Vanity Fair, have reported that Taylor had been made to repeatedly record the line. She said, fuck you to series creator Matt'Brien and was also quoted by the New York Daily News in 2007 saying,

we did 24 takes, but they were always too sexual. Finally, Liz said, fuck you and walked out. However, Groening later denied the story in the DVD commentary for the episode, Gup Roast, while Gene stated in a piece after Taylor's death that Taylor had said, fuck you in jest and in maggie's voice and did not storm out okay it was a comical fuck you perhaps yes uh but they double dipped with her they're like well if you're saying daddy could you stick around and record like three more lines for our crusty star yeah our starmageddon episode of gabbo yeah i gotta fire that agent i think

is what she says good which those jokes make more sense if you know she had already been on the show yeah yeah that's true this episode is running long but i have a bombshell to draw please be i'm dying right now no i'm just actually sick it's okay but this is a bombshell it's gonna i'm gonna start with a call to action go out edit the wikis edit imdb because i discovered something and i thought i was crazy because i thought i imagined it so if you go back to the Thanksgiving episode, I think I misremembered. It's like, oh, Carol Kane, the actress Carol Kane, she

played Andy Kaufman's girlfriend in Taxi. She played Grandma Ma in the Addams Family movies. I was like, oh yeah, she does the voice of Maggie in the Dream Sequence. It's your fault I can't talk. I watched the episode again. There's no credit. I go to the Google and I type in Carol Kane Simpsons. Nothing comes up. And I'm like, how did I, did I imagine this? I must have just imagined it. Listening to the Google and I type in Carol Kane Simpsons. Nothing comes up. And I'm like, how did I, did I imagine this?

I must have just imagined it. Listening to the commentary, Matt Groening just lets it slip out. All the people who voice Maggie, he's like Elizabeth Taylor, Carol Kane. He's like going through them. This is not documented anywhere. So I command our listeners, go out, populate the internet with this information. Carol Kane voiced Maggie in Bart vs. Thanksgiving. I know it's certain because Matt Groening said so.

That is my bombshell. How would she go uncredited? It's so weird. By the way know it's certain because Matt Groening said so. That is my bombshell. How would she go uncredited? By the way, does not sign a contract or something? Bob, that is one of my favorite parts of my job. If you think the internet has done all the research on things, you are so fucking wrong. Please give us credit, by the way. Digging into stuff like this and finding

something the internet isn't reporting as common knowledge is my favorite part of my job. This was the era of Sam Eddick. This is the era of no Penny Marshall being credited, no Michael Jackson being credited. So it's conceivable Carol Kane might know. Of course she knows Jim Brooks. And Sam. Yeah, and Sam Simon.

Yeah, she worked like she was. I won't say discover, but she her most famous role to that point was on that. Maybe Scrooge now. Great. So what about Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I love her in Scrooge.

She is quite the monkey cheese joke machine. But please go out and tell the world this important fact about The Simpsons. I command you as our listeners. I never knew that either. I didn't either. Why do you think you knew that to begin with? I heard the commentary several times. I just filed it away in my brain, but it never showed up anywhere else.

It just like is mentioned in like one second on a commentary as they're like wrapping up. Yeah. So. Want to be a big expert? Read one book, listen to a commentary. You'll know more. I'll also have no life until you're like 30 like me and then you'll be fine. Hey, this is the life we've chosen.

Yes, it's true. Thank you so much for listening to this. The longest episode of Talking Simpsons to record. I mean, like, we had to explain every reference. I don't think we're going to go on as long after this, so don't worry if you're getting tired of us talking. I mean, I don't think you are. I think it might be longer.

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