Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Marge On The Lam

Episode Date: March 22, 2017

Marge finally gets a friend of her own in this homage to Thelma & Louise, as well as the introduction to ballet, invisible soda, and the introduction of Miguel Sanchez, all in this week’s podcast…...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 this episode of talking simpsons is brought to you by audible and you listeners can go to audibletrial.com slash laser time and get started with a free 30-day trial and get a free audiobook i heartily endorse this event or product. Bob Mackie, and this is the Lazer Time Podcast Network's chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who else is here with me today? Henry Gilbert, and can I throw up in your bathroom? I'll buy something. Sure, and who else? Chris Antista, otherwise known as the better half of the waffle. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And today's episode is Marge on the Lamb. Sorry, line of the show, getting it up there already. That was a great, that was one of our favorite clips of Bird here. And today's episode aired on November 4th, 1993, and Chris will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real life history. Jesus Christ! Oh my God! You know what?
Starting point is 00:01:17 Polish up those belt buckles, goth kids, because Nightmare Before Christmas is now in theaters. Gasp. I was there. Warner Brothers announces a new network to compete with the Big Four, and legendary Italian filmmaker Federico Fellini, actor River Phoenix, and Joan Rivers' syndicated talk show are all dead this week. Oh, Federico Fellini is, I know I'm going to sound just like a snob,
Starting point is 00:01:37 but his films were amazing. I heard he's pretty good. If you're not, at least watch Eight and a Half or Dolce Vita. Both of those are masterpieces. What about Lestrade? Come on. The coffee shop I go to almost every morning is named after him, Cate Fellini.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Oh, wow. I didn't know that. I love Fellini films. And, yeah, I saw it in theaters Nightmare Before Christmas. I was there day one. Still don't like it. I was there day one in Not a Goth, yes, forever. I loved it as a musical.
Starting point is 00:02:05 And when it becomes less of a musical in the second half, I was like, what happened to music? I just loved it as a fan of animation and Tim Burton especially at the time. I mean, Oogie Boogie, especially Unmasked, is a triumph of stop-motion animation. And that puppet is the size of a toddler. Like a fat toddler. He looks better in Kingdom Hearts. And none of that credit goes to kingdom hearts and none of that credit goes to tim burton none of it he it's henry selleck's yeah night before christmas it's so
Starting point is 00:02:30 wrong that he gets the credit for that everybody thinks he directed they just tore a few pages out of a disney sketchbook and then they made a movie out of it yeah it's smart of that guy to just divorce from him like no i'm just gonna make coralline and be famous on my own yeah yeah i am awesome was he the guy behind Kubo? Yeah. Kubo, Paranorman, and Coraline. Three fucking fantastic movies if you're an animation fan. And this episode is the exciting return of Ruth Powers.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And I wanted to point out one thing. Stupid irony. I let my girlfriend pick the film that we watched one time this weekend. And it just happened to be Thelma and Louise. I'd never seen it before. Oh, it's fantastic. It's fucking awesome. So Ridley Scott makes one good movie per decade.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Is it Ridley or Tony? It's Ridley Scott. Okay. And I think you said this before, Chris. He makes the movies that nobody watches. He makes the movies that come out in between good ones. Okay, there you go. They're neither bad nor great.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I haven't seen a good year. I have a Cinderella. No, that's didn't do Cinderella, man. That's Prometheus and the Martian which are just so like this would have been so much better if any matchstick
Starting point is 00:03:29 men. Blah. Robin Hood. Robin Hood. Blah. So I want to make a little note about the writer of this
Starting point is 00:03:34 episode. He was only on The Simpsons for one season, Bill Canterbury. He would go on to he wrote this episode he would go on to be on Duckman for
Starting point is 00:03:41 the rest of its run after season five of The Simpsons. Yes. He was a major key player in Duckman who I think poached a few of The Simpsons writers. Because it was a Klasky Chupo production. Yeah. It is my hope that when we get to more of the Simpsons spinoffs-ish type things like
Starting point is 00:04:00 Duckman and The Critic, that we'll do an episode of those each time it premieres. I would love to do that. I have to find a way to work Duckman into most of the things I do. I'm the one person who remembers it and that's my goal. I'd never heard of Canterbury before. He's never on the commentary so it makes him hard to
Starting point is 00:04:20 remember. He probably just moved out of LA and isn't on TV anymore. He did write the vampire segment in the last Treehouse of Horror episode. So that was him. And yeah, Thelma and Louise. So Cape Fear was not a timely parody and neither is this. That movie premiered two plus years before
Starting point is 00:04:35 this episode aired. It was May 24th, 1991. But at this time in our world, VHS tapes of movies would take forever to actually hit stores. So maybe it was a fresh VHS release and that's why they were able to make an episode. The rental units cost like $200. There'd be three per store.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You'd have to wait to watch the movie. Holy shit. The only thing that's wrong with Thelma and Louise now that makes it feel dated is just like, well, they should just fuck. Yeah. They go all the way with it and it's just like they should just have sex. all the sequences this is parodying for the most part are some of the most beautifully shot practical effects sequences i have oh yeah it's a very well shot movie like a
Starting point is 00:05:14 giant car chase in the desert uh it looks so good there's a helicopter flying in a canyon to hide themselves from two women why is is, this looks gorgeous. Like, this looks insane. But this starts with a joke my mom didn't particularly like. I know Chris can explain it. I can. Well, Sarah, there's been an uneventful week in Badger Falls where the women are robust,
Starting point is 00:05:42 the men are pink-cheeked, and the children are pink-cheeked and robust. What the hell is so funny? I love how they captured the sound of him breathing, because I did not discover Garrison Keillor until I was in college, started listening to the AM radio, NPR, and he would have that poetry corner,
Starting point is 00:06:03 and it always made me want to drive off the road into a tree because it was just like. Have you heard the one of him describing a car very sexually? No. Look it up, guys. Garrison Keillor car poem. It's great. It's Harry Shearer, fellow NPR alum. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Making fun of Garrison Keillor, the host of Prairie Home Companion. I find myself in this position a lot. My smart, progressive, art-loving friends really hate Prairie Home Companion. I find myself in this position a lot. My smart, progressive, art-loving friends really hate Prairie Home Companion, and I sort of understand why. Here's a clip of what exactly that clip is parodying. It doesn't matter if you've been a bad dad, she thought. It just doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Winter simplifies everything. It comes down to either in here or out there. Someday he'll be out there. Right now he's in here. Take care of him. That's the news from Lake Wobegon. All the women are strong. All the men are good looking.
Starting point is 00:06:57 All the children are above that. You know what? I'm Midwestern as fuck. I spent 28 years in Ohio. I feel like I should be more connected to this, but it just doesn't hit me. The only defense I have for it, and I do unabashedly love Prairie Home Companion and Garrison Keillor. I was raised on Lake Wobegon Tapes. That is the fake town he writes whimsical tales from with made-up characters, ends it with that sequence.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Comedic short stories. But very, like, you could call them bland but like bland slices of life but what prayer home companion is is the same way i don't know the way like maybe you or i would like get into grindhouse films we weren't around for that era so prayer home companion is my father's nostalgia so he loves this show because he grew up with one foot in the variety show homespun folksy let's do monologues, comedy sketches, and musical performances on the radio. It does feel immediately post-war, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah. He grew up with that, and it's his nostalgia. So I think when our generation and generations younger hear it, they just get infuriated because there's no nostalgia for it. I love that there's nothing else like it. I wish there were those shows on radio. And I guess that's maybe a thing that I don't like about Garrison Kier. It's like, you're my only choice for this type of thing.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I wish. I'd like to see how someone else would handle it. Though now he's just been on his retirement death march. I was happy. I was on the. I was there live in Chicago to watch the third to last Prairie Home Companion ever. Oh, wow. That's the kind of fan I am. Stayed up till 4am to get tickets for me and my lady
Starting point is 00:08:29 friend who I've seen the show live twice. David Merkin showrunner does not like Garrison Keillor and he pointed out that Garrison Keillor moved to Paris after this episode aired so he thinks this is what did it. And unfortunately he moved back so he said they need to start making fun of him some more so he can move away once again.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Meanwhile, Matt Groening was like, oh, but I like your show. Yeah, he was like, hey. I just hung out with Garrison Keillor in liberal function. He was on his retirement tour. I was just like, I didn't know you could care that much about this because it's very easily avoidable to avoid a folksy two-hour radio show. But my liberal friends fucking hate it because they listen to NPR, and I guess you're trapped. There's not a lot of other two-hour programs.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's just really the sound of his inner mouth flaps that I hear. That Harry Sheer nailed the wind. Yeah. This is the ASMR podcast now. I also didn't like in the Prairie Home Companion film by Robert Altman that Meryl Streep, a woman played by Meryl Streep would have ever
Starting point is 00:09:28 had sex with him. I'm like, no. And then also that Lindsay Lohan plays his daughter, too. I forgot she was in that. The final Altman film, also. Final Altman film. It's weird. Woody Harrelson's pretty funny. It's a good film. They had in the contract. Kevin Kline plays
Starting point is 00:09:43 Guy Threepwood. Guy Thre Kevin Kline plays Guy Threepwood. Guy Threepwood? No. Guy... That's Guy vs. Threepwood from Monkey Island. Yeah, I know. Guy Noir, private. Guy Noir, there you go. But as a real detective researching it, it's a fun movie. Last Garrison Keillor clip,
Starting point is 00:09:59 because it comes into a character we all can agree is amazing. Spain Inquist studied the menu, and finally he ordered the same thing he has every day. Maybe it's the TV. Be more funny! That's great. That was my line of the show, but the cutaway
Starting point is 00:10:19 to the self-satisfied white laughter in the audience is so astute. I think your clip is more accurate, Chris, though. It's more like polite applause, like, yes, that was good. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:30 No, again, been to a live show. People guffaw and double over. And again, I've never been to a live event with so many people that old. Like, the moment it's over, there's a mad dash of walkers and canes to get to the parking lot first. Oh. Like, you don't even, this is like the third to last show, and you're leaving 10 minutes ahead of time The moment it's over, there's a mad dash of walkers and canes to get to the parking lot first.
Starting point is 00:10:50 This is like the third to last show, and you're leaving ten minutes ahead of time so you can get out earlier. There's Metamucil litter all over the floor. But I like it. Sorry, this is the one where finally this Garrison character. Well, sir, I think it is time to turn this pledge. Drive over to Troy McClure. I can't keep up this pace forever. Hi, I'm Troy McClure.
Starting point is 00:11:16 You might remember me from such telethons as Out With Gout 88 and Let's Save Tony Orlando's House. Folks, do you realize without your support, public television can't afford to bring you such award-winning shows as Edward the Penitent? I love this. I'm really, really, really sorry. I'm afraid sorry doesn't cut it with this pope. I love this. I love that. I'd like to pledge $30. Oh, thank you. Oh, Arge, it's public TV. They never have anything good. Where are the Geraldos? Where are the Eubankses?
Starting point is 00:11:51 They need our support. Besides, they gave me two tickets to the ballet. The ballet? Woo-hoo! I really love Edward the Penitent. It's the most perfect, boring PBS show, a period drama about a historical figure you know nothing about and don't care about. Yes, and it's cheap filler from the BBC. I don't know if it's a joke.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Then, like, where are the Geraldos? I don't know who the fuck the Eubanks are. Kevin Eubanks. Right? Jay Leno. Yeah. It's like, is he intentionally making fun of, like, lame shit that's not on public television? Because all that shit is now more lame than what's on public television.
Starting point is 00:12:20 No, Homer is saying it's lame. Like, he likes the lames thing. He wants the safe lameness of broadcast TV. Hey, public television is Sherlock, one of the best fucking shows the last 10 years. But this was 1993 PBS. But also, I, as a kid, totally got this. My dad would never do anything ever in charity. Every single coffee mug in our house is the local public radio station in my parents' house.
Starting point is 00:12:43 That is so the opposite of my family. We would never, never. My mom would want to, but I feel like my dad would just There's a mug they have in our house that is Mr. Rogers and Big Bird shaking hands, a picture that I have never been able to find on the internet. So it's like Rumsfeld and Saddam Hussein.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Elvis and Nixon. So that, I want to bring up Let's Save Tony Orlando orlando's house which tony orlando's a very funny joke and also a song that is a very good song so the uh the kipster band yola tango oh yeah it was great they did a song called let's save tony orlando's house Let's give that a listen. What? So is this like a deliberate Yola Tango Simpsons reference? Yeah, they named it after it, and they do sing about, let's say, Tony Orlando. And it's like, watch it burn collectively.
Starting point is 00:13:55 It's a beautiful song. It's a great song. I also heard them do it acoustic before. Like, you're not too cool for Yola Tango, guys. They're really good. Yola Tango's amazing. I agree. They're great. And if that is your first song,
Starting point is 00:14:06 that's a great first song to start with them. So it was just so cool as a hipster discovering them myself, like to find songs named after things like a obscure Simpsons line. I was like,
Starting point is 00:14:19 oh, this is a band for me. Oh, God. Fall Out Boy's been around so long, it's like, I don't feel like making fun of them anymore. No. They're still doing all right. Homer is so dumb and giggly in this one. He's really stupid. Well, they explain how that came to be with the army experiments.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That's true. It gave him, what, loss of equilibrium, giddiness, high hair loss, I think. Yes, yeah, those three things. One of the first misappropriated Simpsons shitposting I saw was from my friend Tyler Nagata. He's been on our show before. Great man.
Starting point is 00:14:50 But he says he had a... Back when we shared image macros via fucking Outlook and email at our old job, it was just like that time again
Starting point is 00:14:59 and it was just ah, E3 and the bear driving in a circle and it still makes me laugh just thinking about it. It works in games, i i loved uh the in joke we had that if anybody tweet if anybody shared something in an email that somebody else had heard of they would reply with a picture of statler and waldorf that said old old like you would be punished for saying like hey look at
Starting point is 00:15:22 this cool thing everybody's like like, I saw it before. You suck. So we do have the return of Ruth Powers. After Homer is fantasizing about the circus and still singing, Ruth comes to the door, asks for a belt sander. You come back to Homer using the belt sander. He got the belt sander out and started using it within seconds for no reason. Yeah, we didn't get to see Sarah Gilbert's character in this. She's mentioned.
Starting point is 00:15:45 But it's nice that that character left something behind i really do like both sarah gilbert's character laura and ruth powers i like the world weariness of ruth powers and they wanted to give they created her to give marge a friend because she didn't have one and and this is like her last appearance for a very long time. Season 14, I believe. It could be called either. It's either Large Marge or something else. Whatever episode Marge gets buff in that season. Also, the episode I always think Marge and Chains is.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Oh, yeah. This is what I thought I was watching. This is better than Marge and Chains. It's way better. Yeah. And then we also get another thing to date this. Yes. It's great. Hey, Homer, you want to get a beer on the way home?
Starting point is 00:16:24 I can't. I got to take my wife to the ballet. Got to go's great. Hey, Homer, you want to get a beer on the way home? I can't. I gotta take my wife to the ballet. Gotta go see the bear in the little car, huh? Hmm? Invisible cola. Time to stick it to the man. Hey, careful there, Homer. I heard
Starting point is 00:16:39 somebody lost an arm in there once. That's just an old wife's tale. Got it. I'm stuck. Help me. He's done for. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah. That's the same way the kids abandoned Bart in Bart the Daredevil. It really is, yeah. It's the same joke. I love that joke, though. All over Invisible Cola. Crystal Pepsi. Crystal Pep, which I think that was, though. All over Invisible Cola. Crystal Pepsi. Crystal Pep, which I think that was just one of the first big marketing things that I noticed as a kid.
Starting point is 00:17:10 They rolled it out as if Jesus had come back to life. I think they licensed a current song in the top 20, which no commercial had really done yet. It's Van Halen's Right Now. It's the only reason I didn't get a clip, because it's just right now in text about Crystal Pepsi. I mean, I prefer SNL's parody, Crystal Gravy. Can they ever show that sketch again? Kevin Nealon biting into just soap. Yeah, is that soap, or is it like some kind of
Starting point is 00:17:33 syrup or something? It is gross. It's a beautiful thing, but the Crystal Pepsi, which premiered lightly in 92, but really got big in 93. And then disappeared forever until it came back, I don't know, 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:17:47 It was one of many ways that soda companies want to sell diet sodas to men because the idea, at least in America, is diet soda, that's for chicks. I won't buy this. What is it, Dr. Pepper 10 or something like that? Yeah, Dr. Pepper 10. They have literal manly commercials
Starting point is 00:18:02 to sell men's sugar-free soda. This is for men. I only drink gendered sodas, all right? I'm that secure in my masculinity. Which is so stupid, but that's what Crystal Pepsi was, too. It was very long calories. You know what? I never realized that, but that's totally right.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's caffeine-free. They didn't want you to because then you wouldn't buy it because it's for girls. It's caffeine-free and zero calories, and it's marketing it as like it's the clear soda. Everybody's heard of Sprite and 7-Up. You make 7-Up. And it tasted nothing like Pepsi. It didn't taste like Pepsi. Though I had a real thing.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It was a prank my brother pulled on me that really upset me at the time. It was, I hate soda, and I don't drink it. And I mainly drink water. I had my glass, and he must have changed it out while I was turned away or left the room. And I pulled my glass to drink it and it's soda and it just breaks it's crystal pepsi and it just breaks my brain like what what did you do that's a killer prank you it it made me so mad i should have i should have taken it with gentle good humor i thought you're gonna say you only drink milk out of mountain dew
Starting point is 00:19:00 bottles like a birthday boy sketch please look it up look up commercial i just ended up on that video with 15 million views of the guy drinking a 1992 Crystal Pepsi and projectile vomiting everywhere. We'll never see that success, Chris. I'm sorry. All I have to do is vomit, which I'm willing to do. Henry will never do it. So in 2015, they did bring it back, and you can still kind of buy it now and then.
Starting point is 00:19:22 They lightly make it. They learned the power of nostalgic sodas. It's why you can still kind of buy it now and then. They lightly make it. They learned the power of nostalgic sodas. It's why you can still get Surge. 90s sodas are coming back to be sold to 30-year-olds who still drink soda. I bet it's huge in some weird market, like it's big in Dubai or something. It's like that's all they drink in Dubai. They called it Pepsi Clear in other places. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:43 It's a great name, though, Crystal Pepsi. Yeah. You can snort it. Clear in other places. Okay. It's a great name, though, Crystal Pepsi. Yeah. You can snort it. You can smoke it. It was always my fear as a kid to get my arm stuck in something. So Homer getting his arm stuck really scared me. Because I did, at this point in my life, I was stealing from vending machines. I knew the right, oh, I can steal from that one.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Great. Anything on the bottom row is mine. We also mentioned Duckman. It had one of my favorite jokes about stealing a soda because Duckman steals a soda successfully. He doesn't get his arms caught. And then pulls it out. He's like, hmm, I bet a child could recreate this thing I just did and steal soda themselves. Do it.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Stick it to the man, kids. And then Corn Fed is handed a piece of paper like, but that would be wrong. I love Duckman. That show is, yeah, it's amazing. Oh, yes, finally, here's our introduction to Ruth. Hello? Marge, this may be hard to believe, but I'm trapped inside two vending machines.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Sure, Homer, trapped in vending machines. Okay. Would you two like to go to the ballet? That's girl stuff. Thanks, Marge. Would you two like to go to the ballet? That's girl stuff. Thanks, Marge. When my husband left, he took all our power tools, along with the car, my youth, my faith in mankind.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Well, see ya. Hey, wait! I really think Ruth Powers and Enda Krabappel have a lot in common. They should really hang out. They should have. They have a lot of stories to that. Terrible men. As in men, right? Yeah. And they both smoke cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:21:10 They're both jaded. Happy retroactive women. Yeah. I like when they go to the ballet together that Marge gets to like ogle the ballet guy with her. And it's like Marge doesn't get to be free like this. It's good acting on Julie Kavner's part of giggling along like, ooh, I shouldn't laugh at this. It's a dirty joke about looking at his dick through his tights.
Starting point is 00:21:30 It's the only way that makes ballet make sense. I don't mean to slam. It's really about women staring at beautiful bodies of men. It's so boring. Like almost all of the time. Like I would rather watch street performers dance. What bothers me as a pro wrestling fan is when pro wrestlers say, this ain't ballet. But it is.
Starting point is 00:21:49 You get hurt in this. It's just like, no, it is ballet. It is literally ballet. That's, again, more gendered shit. You're telling a story with dance. Yeah. You are performers in peak physical condition, and ballet performers get hurt all the fucking time.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And it is a staged performance like they it is ballet and it's it's a real disrespect to the ballet when you use that term it's a ballet this has been among the many things we've adopted in simpson's vernacular holding onto the can yeah it is absolutely one of them homer this is never easy to say. I'm gonna have to saw your arms off. They'll grow back, right? Oh, yeah. Homer, are you just holding onto the can? Your point being? I fucking love him dejectedly walking
Starting point is 00:22:39 out rubbing his arms. I love the joke. They're not gonna anesthetize him in any way. They're just gonna saw his arm off. They have time to saw him off. That definitely made me gasp as a kid and for sure, oh my god, they're going to saw his arm off. And it's just like literally a table saw, not a surgical saw. And that they need only
Starting point is 00:22:55 they were about to saw his arms off just as they find like, oh, we're looking in here. You're holding the can. Homer, again, the stupidest he's ever been in this episode i do love his fantasy about how the vending machines will make him more popular and he'll have like a function at weddings stocked and he can yeah command the food at will and that maggie even as an adult getting married has a pacifier yeah speak and it's by the way it's a little easy of
Starting point is 00:23:21 a gay joke to say that smithers wishes there was more mincing yeah i was watching this with my girlfriend she's like these jokes haven't aged very well have they these smithers jokes there's a few like that i'm just like yeah he's gay he wants mincing like he's gay but we can't say it and that's the joke uh but i this is one of my favorite clips of the whole show if in case you didn't listen to patreon episode the season 3 wrap up I gave Barney the MVP line the MVP of season 3 and I can't do that for 4 but he's back with great Barney appearance
Starting point is 00:23:52 one of the best Barney lines thank you why if you ever met my ex-husband you'd understand all he ever did was eat sleep and drink beer and to top it off he's been stiffing me on child support for the last 4 months You'd understand. All he ever did was eat, sleep, and drink beer. Your point being? And to top it off, he's been stiffing me on child support for the last four months.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Well, you were unlucky. But there are a lot of good men out there. Hey! Can I throw up in your bathroom? I'll buy something! Ruth Powers' Shudder is so well animated. They just immediately cut. I believe that came from Susie Dieter. They said it was Susie Dieter, the one girl on the team, as Bill Oakley said about the Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Who acted it out. Did you notice that I think it was intentional that Marge says your point being right after Homer says it. I think that shows that they're kind of taking from each other. Who says it and who got it from the other? It was just a cute little thing and yeah, Barney is that disgusting. This almost got line of the show.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I like how Homer is hurt that Marge has a friend because he doesn't really have the equivalent of Ruth. This note is the funniest to me. Marge, I know you didn't believe me about the vending machines. That's why I had the fireman write me a note. Mrs. Simpson, while we were rescuing your husband, a lumberyard burned down.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Don't! Lumber has a million uses. I'm disappointed in you, but it turns out I had a wonderful time with Ruth Powers. Ooh, we're going to get contention. Homer, yes, again, gets a little jealous. So, a little jealous weird can't go out on saturday that's our special night what's so special about it what the oh i don't know a little show called dr quinn medicine woman dr quinn has anybody ever seen dr quinn uh i avoided it but i looked this up and it apparently premiered january of 93 so as they were writing this, it was probably a new show. It was mad
Starting point is 00:25:48 hyped. It was also aired on Saturday, which I didn't have a life at this point, but this is when we rented games and movies, so we didn't watch television on Saturday. I wouldn't watch that on Saturday. A CBS period drama about the Old West doctor. Well, I think it was a big deal
Starting point is 00:26:03 at the time of Jane jane seymour yeah it was not a mega star but had been in films her doing a tv show back then of like no movie actors do movies tv actors do tv they were very rarely you know crossover nowadays it's like oh you can't star in the biggest films ever anymore than star in a tv show you'll be on netflix you'll be keifer sutherland like that it's the key for it's the keifer route it calls it basically the last successful western on television wow more successful than briscoe county jr uh or deadwood or amc's hell on wheels the answer is yes i love dead yes so much and so homer's jealousy it's a little weird well it's both it's both familiar to
Starting point is 00:26:46 me and weird it's it's familiar in that that my dad was not a fan of my mom going out and doing things without him either but that was it's really a control thing and it's a bad look on homer it is but it also the way homer is jealous is honestly in kind of like a sexual way or he's like jealous that she's going on a date with someone who isn't him yeah it's telling he goes to their makeout points or whatever when while her and ruth are on their other adventure and marge and ruth go there separately oh you're right so yeah and i think too i i don't want to speak for any listeners out there if of the eight women listeners out there i kid i think think the appearance of Ruth on their date
Starting point is 00:27:26 in her like jeans and leather jacket and white shirt, like that is a very like classically butch lesbian look. And I feel like it was, but not in a joke way of like, it was, it was more sexual than, than jokey, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So I wonder if it was kind of like an awakening moment for some viewers, young ladies watching. It was just like, oh, I like this. That would be insane if Ruth Powers had an activation. Yeah, I mean, well, Thelma and Louise had gay subtext to their relationship, which is why they had to die. You can't have a positive lesbian relationship in the 90s. They both have to die.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Hey, she also cheated on her husband. True, true. You can't live after that. And they kiss each other before they die so i remember in the celluloid closet the documentary about gay films the only problem with it now is like it's it's the history of gay films up to philadelphia not everything after and so they talked to susan sarandon about who's nude in that movie and they talked to susan sarandon about them and louise and she thinks the kiss wasn't far enough and she's also just like yeah they kiss they're about to die together and she's like she says at the end of butch and sundance those two should like
Starting point is 00:28:35 whip their dicks out and they're about to die why not like who cares exactly i like them you're about to die suck somebodyuck somebody's dick. Please. And Homer's man's best friend was a... Is that your final line of the show? No. How can you do this, Marge? How can you desert your children? Have a blast, Mom.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Rock the Casbah. Man's best friend indeed. And then we have the Tonight's All About and the song switch up. Yes. Sunshine, Lollipops, and Rainbows, a one-hit wonder by Leslie Gore in 1965. And then she cuts to the other song, and it's like one of the most current songs that Simpsons had ever used to that point. It was only a few years old, I think.
Starting point is 00:29:18 1987, a GNR classic. A bit older. Welcome to the Jungle. Welcome to the Jungle off of Appetite for Destruction. Yeah, Appetite for Destruction, then Use Your Illusion 1 and 2, and that's it. You kids out there will know it as the trailer music from Grand Theft for Destruction. Yeah, Appetite for Destruction. Then use your illusion one and two, and that's it. You kids out there will know it as the trailer music from Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. Oh, you're right. That's exactly it. GNR is as crazy and chunky as Axl Rose gets there.
Starting point is 00:29:34 But hey, he's coming out hard against Trump, so I'm pro-Axl these days. Oh, reappearance of Lionel Hutz as the babysitter. This is the greatest Lionel. This is my favorite Lionel ever. Mr. Simpson, I was just going through your garbage, and I couldn't help overhearing that you need a babysitter. Of course, being a highly skilled attorney, my fee is $175 an hour. We pay $8 for the night, and you can take two popsicles out of the freezer.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Three. Two. Okay, two. And I get to keep this old birdcage. Done. That's a great exchange. I think they were running out of things for him to do in court so they're exploring his life outside of court
Starting point is 00:30:13 which we learn is very bad. Very bad. This isn't the YMCA. Though we skip over a couple really funny things of Homer trying to call his friends and that Lenny, like this Lenny even isn't that sad that he's like shaving his girlfriend's legs or whatever like shave up stupid soon soon enough well not soon enough season nine yeah you'll see the inside of lenny's house like please don't tell but burns with this like lying on his stomach on a on a rug
Starting point is 00:30:42 with his legs up in the air like a teen date. A Valentine's Day box of candy. Wait, who is this? And then Ned getting hung up on like, hello-ly-o-ly. But he doesn't call Barney. No, well, because he knows where to find him. Yeah, I guess so. And he goes there. And then Homer, I like Homer's little green jacket that's like a nice touch.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And the card with Bart, I love that so much. Like blast that infernal card. The card says, do everything the opposite. And Homer's just smart enough to not to give him the card. Like, here you go. It's so great.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah, I should have got that. I think that's from, I think that was the inspiration for Memento. I mean, just in terms of behind the scenes of how I capture clips, it's sort of like funny moments that work well in audio. And for some reason, this episode had more than most.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Oh, wow. I love the polite hick. Hey, baby. Feel like getting lucky? I am lucky. I have a husband and three wonderful children. Thank you very much. Listen, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I always get what I want. I said no. Oh, did you? Oh, I completely misunderstood. Please accept our apologies. That's the inverse of the Thelma and Louise scene, where I believe they blow up that guy's truck after he comes on way too strong in a very rapey way.
Starting point is 00:31:55 They murder him. Oh, they murder him. They deserve it. It's been a few years. Did they blow up his truck? They blew up the... For some reason, they end up passing the same semi on the highway like 18 times. That scene is so fucking outlandish and amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:10 It looks incredible. Incredible. You've got to watch this again. That joke takes Simpsons dangerously close to a very dark place, and then it walks away from it. Yeah, because that's one of... It's not a rape sequence per se, but it's like... It's uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It's very uncomfortable. And to see that happening to Marge, you're just se, but it's like... Uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable. And to see that happening to Marge, you're just like, ooh, this is... Because, again, I just watched the movie and like, okay, they can't... I know they don't do this, but you can't even walk up that close to the line. And this character on the show is based on David Merkin in appearance. Not the guy who talked. The guy behind him is drawing. And yes, he really does look like that.
Starting point is 00:32:42 He's a bald guy with long hair and a big bushy mustache. Yeah, and this was the first time ever I noticed that the place they went to, Shot Kickers. I had that written down to be my name. That is the joke, I guess, where it's not what you think it's going to be called. It's definitely Shit Kickers. Well, it's them getting away with doing the joke of Shit Kickers. Then Marge says, oh, I've never been to Shot Kickers. They literally conjured the word shit in everybody's head yeah exactly what saying the word shit does well that
Starting point is 00:33:10 they could just blank it out with something that could easily have the space of an eye i'm surprised those i mean that's a very murky thing we got away with it we got away with it i need to listen to this again because people were calling us out on uh apparently we were wrong about what was the music theme we thought was the cape fear theme yeah did they get the la law theme oh sure like lawyers working big skyscrapers and have secretaries and look at him he's wearing a belt that's hollywood for you it sounds like it is it why why are we looking up there's not enough of it to really know though you know it could be a sound alike that just grabs uh just enough but oh by the way la law would be off in 1993 it was its final season this aired during the final season of la law so it still worked but it makes it feel so dated it's
Starting point is 00:33:58 just like uh they're watching night court on tv yeah what in prime time la law is it's like one of the last times i like tried to avoid live action shows. That was the era when L.A. Law was on. It almost made a star out of Cormac Bernson. Almost. Hey, he had a star turn in the Major League films. I should have looked up more about L.A. Law. I mean, I'm mostly familiar with this through the Animaniacs parody,
Starting point is 00:34:22 where they do extremely photo, like not photo realistic, but extremely good caricatures of the LA Law cast, animated by TMS, the greatest Japanese animators of all time. It just says, like, oh, you spent so much money on this, and I have no idea what you're referencing. The Simpsons will be right back. How we use electricity can be smarter, cleaner and greener. At Electric Ireland, we can help guide you there.
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Starting point is 00:36:02 So once again, that's Audible, people, and you can go to audibletrial.com slash lasertime and get a free audiobook and a free 30-day trial of the service. Are you already tired of 2017? Jump into the past with 302010, a weekly look back at what happened 30 years ago, 20 years ago, and 10 years ago. Here's something you may remember from 1987. Over the top with Sly Stallone golan and globus but it is directed by golan wow and if you've seen the movie the documentary electric boogaloo like they were making a bunch of theatrical garbage and this
Starting point is 00:36:36 was their stab at triple a garbage i think stallone got a huge payday biggest thing i'm bummed out of this is a movie about underground arm wrestling. And called over the top, even though Stallone has a movie called Fist. It's unfair. You don't make a fist when you're arm wrestling. You grab arms. You go over the top, baby. The plot here, he wants to have custody of his son.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And he is a truck driver who is also semi-pro arm wrestler. He's a strange son. I think he runs away because the mom is sick. The mom is sick. He's a stuffy military academy guy who has to hang out with his truck-driving dad in the underground world of over-the-top arm wrestling. The big arm wrestling
Starting point is 00:37:17 championship, and it's double elimination. Which means... Both arms? That would be so great if he did both arms at the same time. Wow. Oh, my God. If that's not a sport... He's arm wrestling four people at once.
Starting point is 00:37:30 A giant Ouroboros of arm wrestling in a circle. How do I know who's winning? They call him Vishnu. That's 302010, a weekly look back at what happened in music, movies, TV, and games every Thursday right here on the Lazer Time Network. And then when Homer goes to Moe's, Moe's has never looked worse. Never. Where everybody knows your name.
Starting point is 00:38:06 They're just like silent. Homer even wants to play a game. He's like, people drink less when they're having fun. Yeah, we phased out dots. Oh, so depressing. And then meanwhile, speaking of music, when they went to the rave club, I swear that sounded like the Mortal Kombat thing. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I mean, there's a lot of rave songs that sound like that from the early 90s. Yeah. Do you think your hair's a bit much? Hey, Mrs. Simpson, you should try one of these smart drinks. Oh, wow. I wasted my life. This is the most dated joke I've ever heard about a fad that doesn't barely exist. I mean, you're supposed to have that instead of alcohol while you're tripping or rolling or whatever
Starting point is 00:38:53 to replenish your body with vitamins and liquids and whatnot. Why'd you know this part? Well, I don't know, but it was around this time. You want to go robo-tripping together? No, no, no, no. That's ecstasy and robotussing. Oh, Jesus. Both?
Starting point is 00:39:07 Yes, it's the same. Well, I think it was around this time people were just starting to find out about raves. And like 2020 was like, your kids could be raving. What happens at raves? They'll have illicit sex. Yeah. This is bad things that can happen to white children. No.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah. I was told my white children were safe. And that, yeah, the smart drinks were the cool thing. I think it's- I've never heard of this. the smart drinks were the cool thing. I think it's... I've never heard of this. I had heard of them too. I looked up it now. They were big in the early 90s, but they were just another way of selling nootropics.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah, nootropics. Which are now how they're being sold through Gorilla Mind pills, which don't take those... Gorilla Minds. Yes. Jesus Christ. Bars that would serve non-alcoholic beverages with vitamins and other purported minerals. Or things that, like, no alcohol in it, but would enhance your intelligence. Seemingly.
Starting point is 00:39:52 They were just smart drugs. Otherwise known as think drinks. And I tried to look up everything I could on this, because this is a very short-lived fad. This article, and I'd only recommend it to you guys, it's from Discover Magazine. It just reminds you how far editorialization has come, because this woman has no fucking respect for my time. It does not get to the point about this at all.
Starting point is 00:40:12 But all of it takes place at DNA Lounge, which again, this is a reference for three people. It's like two blocks from here. That's where it all takes place. Which is now one of the only bars I've ever heard of with a Patreon. Yeah, they need it. And then Homer goes for a search of something.
Starting point is 00:40:29 He still can't find stuff. I like that Bleeding Gums Murphy is on the cover of Jet. And Homer's very excited to read Jet. It's Garrett Morris' birthday. Ooh, Jet. Woo-hoo! It's Garrett Morris' birthday! He gets kicked out of the Quickie Mart and the library.
Starting point is 00:40:46 As a suburban white kid, this was my introduction to Jet Magazine. I've never heard of it before. There's Jet and Ebony, right? It's like the male and female versions of that magazine. Yeah, there were advertisements on TV for them all the time when I was a kid. Yeah, I never saw them. I was a very sheltered white child. But Homer getting that excited for Jet Magazine,
Starting point is 00:41:05 which is an African-American culture-focused magazine. So the joke is, why would Homer breathe that as a white man? He's so excited about Garrett Morris' birthday. Woo-hoo! Me too. Garrett Morris rules. He's a treasure. I'm giving line to the show for reasons I will soon explain.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Oh, sure, yeah. That's the joke. What was it you wanted to show me? This. You're not going to hunt me for sport, are you? Oh, relax, Marge. I'd never turn a gun on a human being. My husband, on the other hand.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Come on, you try it. No, I couldn't. Yeah, just breathe slowly and squeeze the... I hit it! I hit it! My cans! My precious antique cans! Oh, look what you've done to them.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Dan Castaneda's Walter Brennan. We heard him before. I got fired with old Chomper. He faced a galloping horse. Robin Williams is doing an Aladdin Walter Brennan. Holy shit. Whenever you see a clip of him, like, that was a real person? Yeah. Who talked is doing an Aladdin, Walter Brennan. Holy shit. Whenever you see a clip of him, like, that was a real person? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Who talked like that? He really talked like that. And sang songs? It is so specific. It has to be an imitation of someone, you know? I think Al Jean. I say that line twice this week before I watch this episode. Just like, oh, my precious switch.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Would you have done it? I think Al Jean said that Dan Castellaneta was known for his wide range of impressions, including Edward Albee, the playwright. That's right. He would do so many weird impressions, which is one of the reasons why they chose him to do voices on The Simpsons. Like, well, just use him. He does these great voices.
Starting point is 00:42:37 It's perfect. It's funny that he's become one of the best voice actors of his generation when at first he was just like, I'm a sketch performer. I'm from Second City and I'll just do sketching with Tracy Ullman. They'll pull you in and I'll talk like this. But his problem is that he's a bald man so he'll only be a character actor.
Starting point is 00:42:54 He's a scrawny bald man. It's a pretty good deal for him then. When they go up to the make-out point, the Springfield Hollywood sign. I love that Homer gets so boned up by smashing a weather station. It reminds me of the few times I was able to successfully hook up with a woman
Starting point is 00:43:11 in high school. It always followed like mailbox baseball and like, let me put my hand down your pants. Just an immediate turn of like primal pubescence. It's the two modes of the teenage male really that's what it felt like violence and sex like how did I how did I do
Starting point is 00:43:28 how did I break into a church and then finger somebody like like the police don't want to know but okay that's the debut of the Springfield sign I think so yes
Starting point is 00:43:41 okay I wasn't used to come up here on dates Homer stop that it's just a weather station I think so. Yes. Okay, I wasn't sure. Homer and I used to come up here on dates. Homer, stop that. It's just a weather station. Come on, Marge. It's fun to smash things.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I smashed it good. You got real pretty hair. It does turn on a dime. Just like violence. I can just remember me being like this in a couple instances. I like those designs are them right before Bart is born. Yeah. It's a good pull of the old designs.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And then we're up to Wiggum, which again, as stupid as Homer is in this episode, Wiggum is actually stupider. I love them teamed up. It's great. They're such a great pair. So Wiggum had sex with a male blow-up doll? Make sure it's a woman, though, because it's also making a legal moonshine. We have a first appearance. It's the first appearance of Miguel Sanchez. Oh.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Mr. Hutz, why are you burning all your personal papers? As of this moment, Lionel Hutz no longer exists. Say hello to Miguel Sanchez. A dumb story, but if my buddy Melendez is listening, I just saw this episode in syndication, and he got a dog, and he's Hispanic, and I'm like, you should name your dog Sanchez. I'm like, I'm not naming my fucking dog Sanchez.
Starting point is 00:44:59 That's, shut up. Shut the fuck up. It sounds like a dirty Sanchez joke. And he brought it, because that's what I thought it was. And it was just because I just heard Lionel Hutz say that. Miguel Sanchez. And he passively mentioned it to his father,
Starting point is 00:45:13 Luis, and he's like, yeah, the dog's being called Sanchez. So for 16, that's the only Simpsons reference that resulted in a 16-year name of a dog. And there's another dog named Sanchez. And I did it, and it all came from Lionel Hutz And there's another dog named Sanchez. And I did it.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And it all came from Lionel Hutz right here. So is Miguel Sanchez sort of the Mexican take on John Doe? It's just like two very common names. Well, it's funny that he's a lot of Simpsons jokes go back to, we're going to run away to Mexico. That's there out for most people like, well,
Starting point is 00:45:41 I screwed up my life. Time to run to Mexico. Yeah. We saw Willie and Skinner propose that. And Krusty takes him there. Yeah. for most people like well i screwed up my life time to run to mexico yeah we saw willie and skinner propose that and uh crusty takes in there yeah but i now when i hear miguel sanchez i think of anthony wiener's carlos danger oh oh carlos danger jesus christ look anthony wiener i've heard the joke before of like if the clintons actually secretly murdered people anthony wiener would have died a
Starting point is 00:46:05 decade ago yeah dead like that guy's the worst strangled by his own boner homer gets picked up by mitt wiggum they start driving and see the car and it's a beautiful scene we're in pursuit of two female suspects one is wearing a green dress pearls and has a lot of blue hair. A lot of blue hair. What a freak. It's Marge. She's become a crazed criminal just because I didn't take her to the ballet. That's exactly how Dillinger got started. Really?
Starting point is 00:46:40 I don't want to be a wet blanket, but maybe you should give yourself up. Marge, it's a matter of principle. I just can't let that deadbeat win again. You're with me, aren't you? I should say something reassuring yet noncommittal. Look, Marge, there's no reason for you to get dragged into this. Once we lose the cops, I'll let you out. Well, I don't think they're going to be that easy to lose.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I mean, these are professional lawmen and... Oh, my God. It just disappeared. It's a ghost car. There are ghost cars all over these highways, you know. Hold me. Only if you hold me. God, they're so stupid.
Starting point is 00:47:21 So Wiggum wanted to pull them over because one taillight was smaller than the other. It looked smaller than the other. And previously, Ruth Power says she wants to get home before that naked talk show comes on. That was a real thing. It originated in Seattle. It's called the Robin Bird Show. Robin Bird. 1977 to today.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And it was popular enough. Public access. Yeah, it was popular enough for SNL to do a sketch on it in 1997. Sherry O'Terry played Robin Bird. And this is real. I knew it had to come from somewhere, but that's it. Yeah, it was popular enough for SNL to do a sketch on it in 1997. Sherry O'Terry played Robin Byrd. And this is real. I knew it had to come from somewhere, but that's it. I meant to get confirmation of that,
Starting point is 00:47:54 because I know I had Triumph the Insult Dogs album, and he just has a line like, fuck anybody who has shit to say about Robin Byrd. Oh, really? Okay. And I only knew her from the Sherry O'Terry sketch, because obviously they weren't airing that shit in Florida. And now there are several naked like naked dating and i'm sure yeah that's right they're dating naked i forget what it is naked i remember there was a uh they accidentally failed to censor one woman like in in this one shot of like it was naked wrestling and it was almost like they chose the the most
Starting point is 00:48:23 humiliating thing like boy your your taint has never looked uglier than in this one second of rolling around with this guy. Like presenting full beef on the ground. I mean, just everything. Like, it was like, yeah, it was everything. I was disgusted. I took offense. But, oh, I did love that Wiggum loves... He played Sunshine Lollipops and loved it. That was a great how both acts end with the same song,
Starting point is 00:48:48 but it's a different take. Yes. Sunshine lollipops and rainbows. Everything that's wonderful is what I feel when we're together. Brighter than a lucky penny. When you're near that ring disappeared homer is sad in the back seat and then he's like he gets into it he's like yeah
Starting point is 00:49:11 fun song man i feel happy just playing that and that's what that's his chase music again because wigum is that stupid yeah and it's like they're having they're just being fucking morons whereas mar Marge is having pivotal moments. She wants to walk away from the situation and stay out of trouble. And I love the coffee house scene. At the Seething Sisters diner. Seething Sisters. This cross-country flight from the law would be hell if we didn't stick together. Hey, friends stick together.
Starting point is 00:49:40 It's amazing how through all this adversity we managed to stick together. If there's one thing decent folk do, it's stick together. I hate it when the waffles stick together. Sticking together is what good waffles do. Sticking together is what good waffles do. Love Harry's take there. Yeah, oh man, whenever I eat a waffle, I think of that line and I say it out loud to my weary girlfriends. Before you eat every waffle, you say that line and I say it out loud to my weary girlfriends. Before you eat every waffle, you say that line.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And I gotta give it to the animators for really good amount of variations on the Thelma and Louise design. There were three different ones. There were several Thelma and Louise's having heart to hearts. Distinct from each other.
Starting point is 00:50:21 All these non-lesbians hanging out on their run from the law See you later loser That's great I love that But when the guy comes out and says hey you kid That was exactly like the hey you kid Guy in the flower Candy Moe's Dandy
Starting point is 00:50:37 Mr. Dandy Hey you kids I think it felt intentional It was so similar to from the Telltale Head. Yeah. Which you can only hear on Patreon.com. Yeah. The running gag of, because we have some friends in police dispatch,
Starting point is 00:50:54 and I love the running gag of Wiggum being terrible at calling an AP police. Oh, yeah. Dispatch, this is Chief Wiggum, back in pursuit of the rebelling women. All right, your current location? Oh, I'm on a road. Looks to be asphalt. Oh, jeez. Trees, shrubs.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I'm directly under the earth, son. Now. Suspect is hatless. I repeat, hatless. And also, when they're cooking the eggs on the thing, he's like, if we can keep these down, we'll be sitting pretty. Why do you have to eat these? Just stop at a diner.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Where do the eggs come from? Why are you carrying unrefrigerated eggs? I mean, you know, hey, pasteurization is a big lie. You can refrigerate eggs. This Kent Brockman joke. I love this. It has so much new meaning now that we're in a different age of the internet and we speak publicly. This would be a legitimate editorial on some cable stations.
Starting point is 00:51:50 For real. Have been identified as Ruth Powers and Marge Simpson of Springfield. Cool. I always knew someday mom would violently rise up and cast off the shackles of our male oppressors. Eh, shut your yap. At the risk of editorializing, these women are guilty. It must be dealt with in a harsh and brutal fashion. Otherwise, their behavior could incite other women,
Starting point is 00:52:13 leading to anarchy of biblical proportions. It's in Revelations, people! The idea that they have that standby screen ready. It's one of my favorite still images of The Simpsons. We get one of our many technical difficulty screens. And when they pause for a beat, it cuts to Bart and Lisa like he's looking at them through the TV. Yeah. But he can't be actually reacting to them.
Starting point is 00:52:38 But that's another Merkin thing, too, that the TV just talks to you. And Kim Rockman is speaking to The Simpsons in that room. But that is just tv now it is that's that was just like that was relaxed if that was alex joe yeah the guy who is giving tips to our president sandy hook was a false flag what am i doing anyway there's a here's the thelma louise moment they drive towards the chasm and again never heard of the Springfield's Grand Chasm? Why didn't they use the Springfield Gorge? It existed. Yeah, I think Merkin didn't know
Starting point is 00:53:11 about that history there. They made a new gorge. Well, they've been driving for almost two days, so I just assumed they weren't there. I guess they're crossing state lines, so it wouldn't be the Springfield Gorge. That's true. They must have already passed Capital City. Oh. 4th Street and D? And again, if all you watch, and I think Thelma and Louise is on Amazon Prime right now,
Starting point is 00:53:28 is the ending. It is so beautiful. It's also one of the Wayne's World endings. Yes, it is. Oh, my God. The Thelma and Louise ending. Wayne's World 2, right? Not the Wayne's World 1.
Starting point is 00:53:36 I thought it was Wayne's World 1. Oh, yeah. I like the, I don't know, not wish fulfillment, but when Marge went away to Rancho Relaxo. You're right. That was always, I'd never seen Thelma and Rancho Relaxo, you're right. That was, that was always, I'd never seen Thelma and Louise. So whenever I,
Starting point is 00:53:48 someone said, I'm like, okay, Louise, that's yeah. Yeah. And that was two seasons ago and they're finally doing their full scale Thelma and Louise parody. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:56 But here's the, I love the chasm confrontation. We really are going to make it now. Oh no, they're headed right for the grand ch now. Oh, no! They're headed right for the Grand Chasm! Oh, my God! They're gonna drive right into it just to teach us mental lesson! And it's all my fault!
Starting point is 00:54:16 Marge! Marge! Homer? Look, Marge, I'm sorry I haven't been a better husband. I'm sorry about the time I tried to make gravy in the bathtub. I'm sorry I used your wedding dress to wax the car. And I'm sorry I haven't been a better husband. I'm sorry about the time I tried to make gravy in the bathtub. I'm sorry I used your wedding dress to wax the car. And I'm sorry, oh well, let's just say I'm sorry for the whole marriage up to this point. You're right.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I am lucky to have him. But please, March, don't drive into that chasm! Chasm? They didn't see the chasm. Yeah, I mean, the joke is that Thelma and Louise were going to kill themselves on purpose, and they didn't know they were headed towards a castle. I knew the ending of the film, but it's still, like, for a mainstream Hollywood movie, so pretty bizarre. It really is, yeah. Both characters punch their own ticket, and there's no resolution.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And the, oh, sorry. What happened to Michael Madsen? Did he ever find anybody? I was right. It was Wayne's World 2, the Thelma and Louise ending. Okay, I'm sorry. Wayne's World 2 at the Thelma and, solar panels, and much more. Making your usage clearer,
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Starting point is 00:55:39 Happy ending. Yeah. So Thelma and Louise was the next one. I didn't have the budget in Wayne's World 1 to do a Thelma and Louise ending. And I love the garbage sequence. Ha!
Starting point is 00:55:50 And to think, those idiot environmentalists were protesting this landfill. Solid waste. I could kiss you. Yeah. Ooh. Ooh. Ah. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I think this was pizza. We're so close to pizza. Oh, God, I can't wait. Yeah, I mean, so when Wiggum and Homer go over the cliff, it freezes and it fades to white just like in Thumb on the Wheels. Is that how the movie ends conclusively? It's that and it's over? Yeah, you don't see the car land.
Starting point is 00:56:18 You just see it fly over the cliff. I wasn't sure if there was a scene of men shaking their heads or something. To be honest, the car dips to the right in kind of the same way okay it does in the film yeah and and then of course wiggum's car screams right past it yeah it's beautiful and yeah the good job mark kirkland the idea that they were saved by by disgusting waste yeah in a land like a cat a beautiful chasm being turned into a landfill saves their lives that feels very mur Mercany. That pollution saved them. And how do we go into the next reference? Because if you don't know this, this is such a long joke.
Starting point is 00:56:51 You've got to play that death jingle, Chris, because this man is dead. That's right. 20 years ago, he died. Death stalks you at every turn. There it is, death. So this is George Fenneman, who was the narrator on Dragnet. If you look him up, he had a long and storied career over TV and radio and everything else. But he's the guy who says the story you're about to see is true.
Starting point is 00:57:13 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. That's what you hear when Dragnet starts. So if you don't know what Dragnet was, it was an early police procedural in the 50s first. And starring Jack Webb. Dude, it was on radio. It was on radio. It started on radio. It's one of the few shows that have success in both of those mediums. And speaking of Duckman, Corn Fed is based on Jack Webb.
Starting point is 00:57:34 That's the show. Just the facts, man. And Jack Webb was the most boring, straight-laced man there ever was in the 50s. He was pure 50s. And so on the 50s show, it was a more simple show, especially for the time. I remember seeing it as an example of just having the one shot of a guy's face and the other guy's face is because TV screens were eight inches. And you could only really show faces. And then in the late 60s, early 70s, Jack Webb's like, we got to set these hippies straight and make a show for now and
Starting point is 00:58:06 of new drag those episodes are fucking hilarious rob reiner plays a hippie on one of those right yeah i remember boy blue that was uh one of my all-time favorite bad so bad it's good and so that's when i saw dragnet was in the reruns on nicky knight that were of the 70s one that were made to make or 60s one made to make fun of Dragnet. It's just like, yeah, it's so bad, it's good, it's Dragnet, it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:58:29 It was a popular radio show. It has a popular black and white version. It has a popular color version. It has a rap with Dan Aykroyd and Tom Hanks. Chris, you are including that in your upcoming episode, are you? Oh, yes. Okay, thank God.
Starting point is 00:58:40 It's out by now, laser time. Yes. Do you want to hear Tom Hanks' rap? I do. Yeah, it's exactly how you want to hear Tom Hanks rap? I do. Yeah. It's exactly how you think it would sound. It's idiot crime. We got to stop those pagans from running.
Starting point is 00:58:51 But just like, I'm only bummed out that... That ain't nice. Because I know Dragnet pretty okay. I haven't seen a ton of episodes or anything. But there's still... Clips still emerge online because occasionally like Joe Friday and his partner will just give the business to hippies. You think you're the first one to have problems son yeah and i mean the dragnet characters would appear in uh mother simpson yeah to help with the investigation like just right out of
Starting point is 00:59:13 the show was dead yeah it's a cultural touchstone that's stretched across mediums and generations and i feel like there hasn't i know they tried to remake dragnet again i don't really see how you do that it was funny they. They actually had... I remember seeing a clip of it recently pulled up because of how timely it is now. It's like, hey, freedom of speech does mean you can say anything you want, but you need to really think about that. You need to deal with the consequences of that, son.
Starting point is 00:59:36 And think about the freedom, the people who gave their lives to give you that freedom to do that. Think about that. But yeah, George Fenneman, they got him to do it. Let's hear that ending. Ruth Powers was tried in Springfield Superior Court. The judge dismissed her ex-husband's
Starting point is 00:59:51 auto theft charges and forced him to pay all back child support. That would have never happened. Mr. Powers blamed the outcome on his lawyer, one Lionel Hutz. Lionel Hutz, a.k.a. Miguel Sanchez, a.k.a. Dr. Nguyen Van Thock, was paid $8 for his 32 hours of babysitting. He was glad to get it.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Marge Simpson was charged with a violation of Penal Code Section 618A, wanton destruction of precious antique cans. She was ordered to pay 50 cents to replace the cans and $2,000 in punitive damages and mental anguish. Homer Simpson was remanded to the custody of the United States Army Neurochemical Research Center at Fort Meade, Maryland for extensive testing. The Simpsons are going to
Starting point is 01:00:38 Fort Meade. Even that jingle, it's like I instantly understand what that is. It's about Tums, right? They're selling Tums. Oh, my God, Bob. I forgot about that. March smoking is even like that's what the ex-cons would do in the line
Starting point is 01:00:52 because they would show each person in that sentencing. Also, just so you knew, crime doesn't pay. That was the message of it. I forgot that Lionel Hutz was Ruth's husband's lawyer, which is why she got justice. That's how he failed. So that's the only way a woman would get justice like that. I know the writers had to have been big Dragnet fans. This is a huge
Starting point is 01:01:12 deal for them, but again, it's a two-minute parody that I don't think reads now at all. I tried my best to find George Fennerman specifically because Dragnet had numerous announcers. If this is correct, this is a much younger version of him. Ladies and gentlemen, the story you are about to see is true.
Starting point is 01:01:35 The names have been changed to protect the innocent. Oh, God, the cops are here. I think that's why the show is sort of beloved because it's so fucking earnest and sincere all the time. It's right in your face. And I think it also works if you're somebody who likes seeing cops beat up hippies, and if you're somebody who would identify with the hippies and are laughing at the show made to make you feel guilty about hippies. That was from the black and white original version.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Yeah, I mean, that show was for all the war veteran dads with a haircut you could set your watch to. And I found a great clip of... It's amazing. This is just an amazing video to me. It is every ending to Dragnet, but just the audio, none of the video of it.
Starting point is 01:02:21 So you can listen to 40 minutes to hear every outcome of a dragnet episode but here's a little taste the suspect was found guilty on four counts of bank robbery bank robbery is a federal offense which is punishable by imprisonment for not more than 25 years so don't do it that was george. And again, 47 minutes long against a black screen. Bank robbery is a crime. It has more views than anything on our YouTube channel.
Starting point is 01:02:51 That was a fun ending to the episode. In my memory, I thought of it as more of a direct Thelma and Louise parody, but it's really like four minutes. In almost everything, all my recollections of The Simpsons, it's never really a direct parody. Unless it's Cape Fear. Unless it's really like seven like four minutes and almost everything all my recollections of the simpsons it's never really a direct parody i think unless it's cape fear unless it's cape fear yeah that's why that was so shocking closest i mean there would be the mad mad mad mad world parody but again it's just sort of half that yeah ending it's not that until until he said i buried
Starting point is 01:03:21 that yeah yeah and i mean in later seasons you would get the one that was like the debarted, which just has the departed, a very lengthy one. And 24 minutes, the 24, yeah, who cares. Boo. But this was a really fun episode that I liked that Marge got to do stuff in an episode not written by David M. Stern. Yeah, we'll see a lot more of Marge, the exploration of Marge, I think, with Merkin and Bill Oakley and Joshua Einstein, I think. I think they do a little more with her. I do wish Marge and Ruth had kissed, though. I was looking forward to that.
Starting point is 01:03:52 That's what I love when Homer sees the two of them together and goes like, young love. Does Homer know they're two women? They're gay married in my headcanon. This lesbian bar doesn't have a fire exit what's her problem yes that was talking simpsons thank you so much for listening
Starting point is 01:04:11 i have been your host bob mackie you can find me on twitter as bob servo i also write for fandom.com every goddamn day about video games kids love those damn video games and i write for somethingawful.com every other thursday a new comedy article go to somethingawful.com my other podcast is retronauts it's a classic gaming podcast every monday at retronauts.com or search for retronauts in your podcast machine the best episode to get into if you're a fan of talking simpsons is our bart versus the space mutants episode it is just like an episode of this but we're making fun of something bad instead of treasuring something good so So please listen to that. Just look for it on RetroNuts.
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Starting point is 01:05:50 access to a live commentary video commentary sunk in everything of the first episode of power rangers in honor of the new movie and revisiting that that was hilarious episode right uh no that's that's the one i remember the most i remember remember watching that one first, but I guess that's not the first one. They sort of fight Goldar. Goldar. It was a ton of fun to revisit that show, and I only needed to do it in one episode once. Maybe the Green Ranger Saga.
Starting point is 01:06:15 The Green Ranger Saga is a great five-part thing of a children's cartoon. If you like these dumb podcasts, you might like Laser Time. Laser Time is topic-based, and recent episodes include uh something with with in honor of king kong i think we're gonna try we've tried to measure every movie monster and see who's the tallest uh as well as the worst raps in history where you will hear tom hanks um and bar simpson wrapped together excellent the worst duet of all time because i'm gonna have
Starting point is 01:06:40 to put it together myself uh but that in 302010, if you like the beginning news segments, then it's a show sort of like what happened 30 years ago, 20 years ago, and 10 years ago in history. We talk lightly about a couple of Simpsons episodes because we just met Cecil. We met Hank Scorpio. Oh, Chris, really? Oh, Chris, yes. Yes, it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:07:00 We just met John Waters' character 20 years ago. My goodness. It's pretty nuts what's happening with The Simpsons 20 years ago. I guess we'll get there eventually. Soon enough. Yes. So thank you so much for listening. We'll be back next week with Bart's inner child.
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