Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Radio Bart With Matt McMuscles
Episode Date: November 9, 2022Once more we're joined by the amazing Matt McMuscles (check out his YouTube channel and his Patreon!), this time for a tale of fraud and '90s birthdays. After Bart has a disappointing birthday party, ...he decides to fool the town in a lengthy parody to a Billy Wilder classic. We dig deep into all the timely references, the gameplay of Larry The Looter, the charm of local animatronics, the dangers of Mr. Microphone, if you can freeze a child in a well, and so much more in this week's Lincoln Squirrel of a podcast! Support this podcast and get dozens of bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!
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Ahoy, ahoy, everybody, and welcome to Talking Simpsons, the podcast that will be back to pick you up later.
I'm your host, Senor Beaverati Stan Bob Mackie, and this is our chronological exploration
of The Simpsons, who is here with me today, as always.
Why, it's an old-fashioned podcast!
My car, it's been a while.
And I'm Henry Gilbert.
And who do we have on the line?
I am the content creator that is not slender enough to fit down a well, Matt McMuscles.
And this week's episode is Radio Bart.
That's very righteous.
Funky C, Funky D will be back to lip sync another one of their hits right after this.
This week's episode originally aired on January 9th, 1992.
And as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history.
Oh my god!
Happy 1992, Bobby!
George H.W. Bush vomits into the lap of Prime Minister Kichimi Yazawa in Japan.
Hand That Rocks the Cradle is number one in the box office.
And in a real sea change in American music scene, Nirvana's Nevermind is number one on the Billboard charts.
Wow, the 90s have arrived.
The grunge era is here.
You know, we went, everybody went, i've said this 800 times on the podcast but
i must say it again they went into christmas time thinking that the big record was going to be
michael jackson's black or white the that album dangerous but the story is that the kids got that
for christmas then they traded it in at the at the record store on jan the start first week of
january and they got nevermind instead and it rocketed to the store on the first week of January.
And they got Nevermind instead.
And it rocketed to the top of the box of the Billboard charts.
And Sting's days are numbered, you know.
It wouldn't be soon before people just knew how he had sex.
They wouldn't know about any of his movies or anything or his music.
Just like, oh, yeah, it's a guy who has sex for a long period of time, right? He mainstreamed the idea of tantric sex.
Yeah, that's all he was known for then, yeah.
When I was a kid, I was so confused
between Sting the wrestler and Sting the singer,
I thought he was moonlighting both jobs.
Yeah, I knew Sting the wrestler far better
than I knew Sting the singer.
I think this was how I became,
this episode is how I became aware of Sting the singer.
Me too.
We did not really have memes in 1992 as we know them now we had snl
sketches but i just could imagine all of the vomiting bush memes we would have today it would
be a golden era man like biden's just tripping downstairs he's not puking into people's laps
yeah same you know trump will struggle like he'll shake on it he'll shake on the stairs or he'll
joke like i can lift a glass of water see but yeah we just don't get puke you know like literally puking on screen
on an on the prime minister of japan of all people too not just anybody i believe it's because it was
the 90s puke was in it was it was the slime decade ralphing. Puke is a form of slime, and 90s were the slime decade.
Yeah, I believe the story was that Bush was, he had a cold, but he refused to not go to state dinner in Japan while visiting there.
And as part of his cold, he passed out and puked on the prime minister.
And man, that has to be the worst projectile ever appointed at a Japanese prime minister, right?
Oh, no. Topical.
Sorry, that's dark.
This is going live in three months. I think the world will have moved on.
And yeah, Hand That Rocks the Cradle, the sexy nanny wants to kill the mom movie that the Simpsons would then parody a decade later.
Right. It was as timely as their Indecent Proposal parody.
That's right.
Yes.
Quite a start to the year of 1992 as this, the first Simpsons of 1992 aired.
And joining us again is Matt McMuscles.
I believe Matt was last here with us for Behind the Laughter.
Is that correct?
Yes.
Though you were on a lot of cartoon about the horrible Mortal Kombat cartoon.
And Beavis and Butthead not too long ago as well.
Yeah, I'll write for notes about Beavis and Butthead.
That's right.
Oh, yeah.
Slightly different.
Frequent guest Matt McMuscles is back.
No one can hear me, but I'm kissing my muscles and everyone's booing me as I do it.
Boo, look at him kissing his muscles.
Thinks he's so big uh you know of course we we all know you're
your simpsons bona fides but do you recall watching this one back in the day not like
how how close to 10 years old were you when bart turned 10 officially in the show in this episode i was two years off i think i was 10 in 1990 so um somewhere around there uh this
episode i i have pretty distinct memories of and one or two bits like i still from this episode in
particular i still quote today i think i was playing a game not too long ago where you're
literally on a convoy and i and i just start going into the song about
convoys so um this and just you know everything in season three is has a lot more like real world
like you know not consequences i say but the story is a little bit more grounded in families
dealing with issues and stuff and this is one of those like bart's gone too far with like not like
a crazy
dumb fantasy escapade or something over the top it's like something that could very well happen
a hoax about a child down the well but but i'm sure we'll get into it but this is one of those
ones that taught me as a kid like don't do this stuff you're gonna the the entire town is gonna
want to cut you up with rusty razors so watch out out. Yeah, I mean, I was going into my 10th year on this planet.
I would turn 10 that May,
and I had been to Chuck E. Cheese-style birthday parties,
so a lot of this episode spoke to me.
And I remember as a kid watching it and thinking,
okay, how can I help get Bart out of trouble?
I can think of, like, three solutions to get Bart out of this mess.
And I'm still thinking of those to this very day, 30 years later.
Me too.
You know, and every day now,
we talk into our own superstar celebrity microphone
via podcasts or videos.
Yes.
We use it to liven up parties, harass women on the streets.
It's many uses.
Fire people at board meetings.
Yeah.
No, watching this episode, I was was gonna turn 10 nine months afterwards and i
was like oh is this what my 10th birthday is gonna be like oh boy like it it really excited me and to
know that i was gonna turn 10 the same year bart was turning 10 though of course bart had been 10
every episode before this one yeah it's it's a real cheat in the in the show here. Well, and yes, we all we all enjoyed a pizza party at an arcade at one time or another, whether it was our pizza party or a friend's.
I think this is much deeper influences than just than just Chuck E. Cheese or showbiz pizza.
It has some pretty highfalutin influences because this is kind of based on the 1951 movie
ace in the hole starring chester j lampwick himself kirk douglas yeah billy wilder movie
he made it the year after sunset boulevard and it's even darker which is why it was a major flop
and even critics didn't like it but now it's a classic it's still kind of obscure but it has
been preserved by our government because it's that important.
To hear John Vitti, the writer of the episode, tell it on the commentary, it's that this was a pitch by Matt Groening, which I think is why it's like rooted in just Bart playing a prank.
Like it does feel like the seed of a classic kind of season one or shorts kind of story.
But then Vitti brought in more of, I think, the media commentary that's in this. this but yeah but it was graining is like graining told him based on ace in the hole and vd said
he hadn't seen the movie before and it was actually in hollywood difficult to rent it
like he had to like really search around for a copy of it because it was not widely available
now you can just get a criterion version of it pretty easily you can just get a Criterion version of it pretty easily. You can easily get a streaming version of it too.
Yeah, yeah.
You can watch it on Pluto TV with commercials.
But I really recommend it.
It's great.
I watched it maybe in 2007 because of this episode.
And I think this episode really made it more known to the public.
I think it's just like, oh, this is the one Radio Bart's based off of.
But it's so good.
And I really loved it this time because I've lived a lot more of my life since the last time I saw it.
And it's this great movie about like how capitalism is this corrupting force.
And the main character is the conduit through which it flows.
And any truly good person is either corrupted or just railroaded.
And what it has to do in common with this episode is that there is a man stuck in a cave.
And it's all about the media circus.
And it becomes like a literal carnival
around this event and how everyone is trying to become a celebrity and make money based on this
tragedy and how one man the main character is trying to prolong it for his own means so it's
really good and it has like some of the best stylized dialogue i've ever heard like everyone
talks like they're out of a like a pulp fiction novel like a detective novel like kirk douglas
there are people who are like come on we're in the same boat and he goes i'm in the boat you're
in the water now let's see you swim henry you stomped on my quote i wanted to say the whole
thing i'm sorry i was laughing already at it it was just so fun i remembered the line it was so
good sorry it's okay please hold your laughter until my quote is over no i yeah i i hadn't watched it in full in so long
bob watching it led me to uh watch it as well it's really good yeah it's so good i saw the
criterion edition uh has a essay in it called noir in the daylight uh and it really is like
it's mainly the movie is set in daytime and outdoors too and in this giant you know spectacle of a carnival like it's not
cheap either and yeah and douglas is just so like i'll tell you what like you give me i'm a 250
dollar a day guy and you give me for 50 uh you know what i give it to you for 40 yeah he's this
is my way back on top i i just love i i and the way he plays himself like getting worse and worse but also knowing he's
evil and feeling guilty about it like yeah yeah i guess the one non-cynical thing about the movie
is that the the main character has some shred of decency and i feel like a lot of people wouldn't
in that situation i think we've seen that quite a lot yes yeah but yeah please watch it you don't
need to see it to understand radio bart or its influences
because again it's very very loosely based on that movie but i think it's a great movie more
people should see and it's very it's still relevant today i think you know i when i watched
with my husband he then pulled up the wiki page on it and he's like one of the main things mentioned
on its wiki page is that it influenced this episode of simpsons like that yes that's uh the
ace of all's main thing yeah uh so another
notable thing about this episode is that it was nominated for an emmy but lost and they're very
bitter about it because it lost to a claymation easter uh which is a will vinton special that no
one ever talks about people really know the christmas special they know the creepy uh mark
twain special with the devil in it they They don't really talk about this one.
But the other nominees were The Ren and Stimpy Show.
No specific episode, just the show.
I think that should have won, honestly, as much as I love Radio Bart.
Very influential show.
The other nominees were Shelley Duvall's Bedtime Stories.
Just the series, not one episode.
This is not Shelley Duvall's Fairytale Theater, but she does go, hi, I'm Shelley Duvall.
So you can find that super cut online.
But yeah, that lasted 12 episodes.
I don't know why it was nominated.
Not notable at all.
But for some reason, Claymation Easter was the winner.
I agree with David Silverman's guess is that Ren and Stimpy and Simpson split the vote
between the cool crowd.
And then everybody else was like i don't
know i know claymation i guess that guy should be the claymation easter let's just give it to that
i feel like all the voters are also over 60 like easter sounds wholesome i'm like that filth simpsons
and ren and stimpy though it's it's funny on this commentary that was probably recorded like oh two
uh they're all still bitter a decade later about not winning one Emmy when they'd won the previous two years, by the way, too.
And they said they were very loud, poor losers at the events as well.
It was funny to me, though, looking at the history to come of like they wouldn't even be nominated the next two years.
Then they'd win with Lisa's wedding and then they'd win with lisa's wedding and
then they'd win every other year so there was about a decade where it was like either them or
south park pretty much won it all i feel like they were so bitter after this they didn't submit the
next two years like we've got our emmys though honestly then when i think about them winning
and are not winning and thinking they they should have it makes me think
of like they had episodes that beat other things that i was like well wait a minute like for
example three gays of the condo which is a funny episode i i disagree it's not good but uh i'm
trying to be nice listen to the gayest episode ever about it they're not very happy with it okay it's not a good
episode there you go thank you but uh and and it beat jurassic bark uh from futurama and the
spongebob episode about clam fishing where it was like jaws on the water like a a classic uh early
era spongebob then later the simpsons episode eternal moonshine of the simpson mind that's
one where homer wants to
kill himself and jumps into like a boat jumps off a bridge and lands on a boat that'd be king of the
hills death picks cotton the yeah but the one that really bugs me is the one from just a few years
ago where mad about the toy which is the one where we find out about abe's possible gay affair in world war ii it
defeated the friggin adventure time series finale right and the bojack episode free churro which is
like the most like give me an emmy episode bojack ever made they wanted it too much which one is
that oh sorry free churro was the one where bojack gives a eulogy
and it's only him for the entire episode oh okay wow yeah that is that is definitely emmy bait right
there yeah and a good episode but absolutely there give us an award episode for sure yeah
and this is one of the rare episodes that has the storyboards on the disc. And you can see a few cut scenes.
I guess, do you want to talk about them now?
They're just very brief.
I'm not going to like, it's very, very hard to make out the dialogue because the storyboards
don't even take up the full screen and the DVDs are built for like your 480i SDTV.
So they're really doing us a disservice, but I'm glad they're available.
So some deleted scenes that didn't make it to the final cut are after the scene where
homer tries out the mr microphone for marge she says there's a lot of feedback he calls the
customer service number and it basically connects to a payphone in the desert and a drifter picks up
the phone and that's that's the joke of that one i think he goes i just fell off a turnip truck or
something like that and so that's why homer is sad yes another deleted scene is during the montage
of people explaining their hypotheses for how to
free bart one of them is an old-timey rainmaker who shows up in a covered wagon very john
swartzwelder joke and character and they say uh won't that just drown the boy and he leaves he
passes another rainmaker on the way in and they say you know they're not biting today man that's
i wish they kept that in that rainmaker also looks so funny. Yes. And Matt's storyboard notes, which are all over the storyboard, say, I bet we'll cut this.
And that was true.
And then before the itchy and scratchy cartoon, we see that Bart has Skinner read Timmy bedtime stories.
And that's what is able to sell the idea that Timmy is being quiet now so Bart can go on with his life.
So they're building in,
I mean, there's a lot in the final episode,
but they build in a lot of justifications
for how this could work.
I really noticed it this time,
and that's one of them.
And the last deleted bit from the storyboards
is Lovejoy shows up to perform church services for Bart.
He throws a hymnal down the well
and leads him in song,
and then he lowers the collection plate down.
And Bart puts money on it
and he's like yeah he takes it back yeah because in another deleted part uh homer throws down
bart's coin collection and that's where bart gets the quarter from to put in the in the dish
you know at least legible was mac gratings like big red marks on it and i love i love his note of one word simplify like he he was really on that and
and also it's helpful to know the dates of it like that these full storyboards were uh dated
july 20th 1991 just to give you a time frame of when all this was made and there's one very funny
note on the storyboards where this is the time when your storyboards did not have to be as finished
as they do today because there was an entire layout stage that was a lot more that would
finalize the artwork a lot more so some of the some of the designs are not finished the sting
design is very funny he's got like a bowl cut does that look like sting at all yes yeah but uh
they did not really design any of senor bivarati's band and there's a note from the storyboard artist
i think steven dean moore and it says uh we need designs for these. If you want to submit them, let the designers and
directors know. Matt just has rights. Call me, Matt. So Matt is like, I will design the Chuck E.
Cheese band for you. He wanted to do it. So maybe the entire band was designed by Matt. Who knows?
But it shows you how hands-on he was. A lot of people think he really wasn't in these early stages no i wish the
i wish more of his his noted versions of the storyboards were included on on every episode
really i feel like it's the only ones that it's only on the ones that like i think it's all from
david silverman's collection to be honest i think that's that's where they're all dug out from but
uh but all right why don't we get the episode proper? So we start with Lisa inventing twerking on TV in a classic meme.
In the very memed, I've seen that meme every now and then.
It's like a celebratory meme.
Like waving her fingers in the air and dancing?
Yeah.
But of course, Homer is quite offended by that until he sees the sexy ladies dancing on TV in a Soul Train parody.
The hip shake on the girl and homer's
eyes and drool i was like wow that really just is twerky she's just jamming her ass right in
the camera lens yeah and and homer becomes like sexual harassment like venus de milo homer here
just for like one second it's pretty creepy behavior from him all of a sudden this this
is not the soul mass transit system which would be in Rosebud.
They didn't name this parody yet.
But it is pretty fun.
I wish we got to hear more about Funky C, Funky Do.
I wish they were a regular appear in The Simpsons.
That's a great band parody name, Funky C, Funky Do.
And yeah, this is a parody of Soul Train, which you probably don't know about.
I assume a lot of people don't.
It started in 71, ended in 2006.
And the guy they're parodying here, Don Cornelius, hosted until 1993.
He's the show's creator.
So he hosted it for over 20 years, and he was the host at this time.
I love he's like right after this.
Like he really holds on that S at the end of the day.
He's a very, very low energyenergy host, Don Cornelius.
That's because he's so cool.
He's not all in your face like Casey Kasem.
Or that awful Dick Clark.
Yeah.
And then we also get one of the first gags about Homer just handing a nondescript pile of money to his children.
Like, it's the start of, I need $900.
Okay, wait.
What's it for?
You know, on the commentary
they bring up a good point uh he gives lisa over 110 we don't see her presence that's true i think
the bigger crime is lisa stealing from her father in this episode you know lisa told him do a good
thing for my birthday and he did like a day later and actually ruined her birthday with the michael
jackson thing so if she's doing it to get revenge and just pocketed all the money for herself i
think i'm gonna say turnabout's fair play i guess we do have two child birthdays in this
not production season but air season i agree but uh but yes that leads to one of the funniest
commercial parodies in the series history and i i got it all right here it's the superstar celebrity microphone hey kids why sit in front of the tv when you can be on the
radio we're gonna roll this truck in convoy cross the usa convoy that could be burned throw away
your bulky transmitters and broadcasting towers.
The superstar celebrity microphone lets you hear your voice through any AM radio.
Hey, good-looking, we'll be back to pick you up later.
He's in for some lovin'.
It's the perfect gift for birthdays, graduations, board meetings.
You're fired.
Mmm, Bart's birthday's coming up.
But order now, Supply is limited.
Limited!
Do you have any of those microphones left?
Yeah, a couple.
You know, Marge, Bart's really gonna like my birthday present this year.
It won't be like those shoe trees I got him last year.
Or the shelf paper I bought him for Christmas.
I'll buy his love yet.
That sequence there is...
They just reused animation from Saturdayurdays of thunder yeah i thought so it's one of the like let's check in in the bedroom and
see what the what the story is yeah yeah it's like slightly the lip sync is slightly off to them a
little bit i find but i do love that he bought bart shelf paper for christmas yeah that's that's
a great what a great horrible gift but yes uh mr microphone this
is what the parody is uh before our time 1978 i was thinking yeah this is 14 years before this
episode so it would be like if they made a new episode now where homer buys bart like a slap
chop or something or like flex seal or something something from the late aughts so oxy clean
original version yeah but uh yeah this
basically turned any fm radio to like a shitty pa system uh within a very limited range because
you can't break fcc rules so bart cannot broadcast from home no that's that's one of the biggest
cheats of this but yes yeah and and now i was thinking you know this was sold to kids back
then with like the dream of i can be my own radio disc jockey i can thinking you know this was sold to kids back then with like the dream of
i can be my own radio disc jockey i can finally have all this power and like now the kids are
living that dream they really can just broadcast like if you are a child with even just a phone
you can even just stream of game to your to youtube off of your phone now now every kid
is mr microphone and they're all a competition they are
yeah we gotta stamp them out i was at a family function there's like two like i don't know 10
year olds 11 year olds and they're just like you have a youtube channel and i was like yeah and
they're like wow and it's the the kids are in on and they're like i want a youtube channel too and
i was like you can't have one i have it yeah that's i'm the only one here that's allowed to have one sort of but you know they're
they're in on it and they know the power that that can potentially wield with this type of technology
yeah it's now any kid can broadcast but it's just uh how do you i guess how does any kid like
get out of the the find the forest for the trees of thing? Like how do you get to be famous when literally every kid can stream something?
You have to be part of a prank family.
You have to be actively being abused.
The horrible prank families will bring you up.
Yeah.
But yes, I do have the original commercial here that this almost like moment for moment parody is.
This Christmas party is getting a little too
quiet i think it's time we liven it up with my favorite christmas gift mr microphone hey what's
that well you set the dial on your fm radio and testing testing
these kids are having a fabulous time with mr microphone the cordless microphone that actually
puts your voice on the radio there are no attaching
wires so you're free to move around broadcast over any fm car radio hey good looking we'll be back to
pick you up later yes and that was the line that was cemented in all of these boomers heads because
they were all like in their teenage years and saw it on TV a ton. And Al Jean questions, why would this make a woman attracted to you?
Like, wow, he could talk through his radio.
It's just a perfect line of like, hey, good looking.
We'll be back to pick you up later.
Like, yeah, it's just cemented in the brains of Gen X comedy writers forever.
And I'm so thankful that the real one was uploaded.
Because, yeah, as a a kid this made no sense
to me i was like yeah mr microphone like it sounds cool though it's also great like you can hear it
in that commercial too when they say kids will love the this commercial too is said like hey kids
and the great joke is that homer instantly loves it he's like wow wow like homer this children's
commercial has already pulled homer in to purchase this thing and the voice you hear in the commercial is ron popeil uh who would later
be a guest star on futurama that's right and who recently passed away that's right yeah man that's
it's a ronco thing so ronco's doing his own thing yeah and also yeah the song convoy first time i
ever heard it it prepared me to hear it in that uh futurama episode uh the
oh yeah sights lost speaking if you yeah it was good they wanted it to be the wreck of the edmund
fitzgerald if you look at the storyboards that's what uh they're singing in the commercial that's
what homer sings to marge but apparently the uh the rights of that song go to like the family of
the victims and it's hard to clear so that's why no one's ever heard of that song if that song had
appeared in the Simpsons,
people would know about the wreck of the engine in Fitzgerald
for decades to come, but instead it's a forgotten song.
Gordon Lightfoot was too generous.
It's also funny.
They drew Quimby into that board meeting.
Like, boy, it's not his voice, but that's Quimby firing the guy.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And I love the intensity of Homer's phone call.
Like, limited!
Like, every trick works on
homer perfectly we cut to it's uh now bart's birthday he's wearing a kiss me it's my birthday
crusty button which is adorable as is him being measured each year by his height by the spikes on
his head i i like that too and he and he grows like two feet in like three years. It's amazing.
Kids have growth spurts, I guess, pretty quick.
I mean, it would stop here.
Yes, yeah, he'll never grow taller.
But even though it'll, and that lack of growth will cost him the part of Fall Out Boy, unfortunately.
But yes, we get a quick shot of Krusty torturing Sideshow Mel,
which is even funnier that, you know, in of crusty gets busted he almost kills sideshow bob to celebrate a girl's birthday but
this is even funnier like that mel drops the cake but he doesn't pratfall into the cake and he just
smiles of like okay and that's what crusty's like nope i got it he kicks his butt right into the cake and then he has to clean up yeah i
love that line like while sideshow mel cleans up like he's just on fire just a classic gag exactly
and i also love uh the posing when uh crusty goes crusty's birthday pals for today
this reminds me of whenever anyone has to show their kickstarter backers though friends which i've had to do yes yeah now you know you're all loved i i think our our mutual
pal uh super eyepatch wolf does a great job of that when it's when you get to the end of an
eyepatch wolf video and he goes friends and it's like all right now it's time when he says friends
it's time for the patreon credits roll this is the first time i looked at these names too of crusty's birthday pals and i want to assume they're all
from like the harvard yearbook because the only ones i recognized were uh ken keeler future
simpsons writer and patrick ferone future futurama writer who went to harvard they're both harvard
boys and i googled a bunch at random they were none of them had imDb credits. I assume they could have been Harvard classmates or just random names.
But Ken Keeler, yeah, three years from now he'll be writing on the show.
Stars Burns will be his first one, yeah.
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I can see a fish.
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at patreon.com slash Talking Simpsons. so then bart decides uh after that that he's he's to go get all of his birthday freebies
and also ignore Grandpa's phone call, which is a great joke, too.
A boy would rather get a greeting on TV very quickly than talk to his grandpa on the phone.
I would have done the same thing.
If the TV wished me a happy birthday, I wouldn't give a shit about my grandpa on the phone.
Same.
But, yes, first Bart gets his free birthday sunday at
phineas q butterfats which i love the posing of that giant birthday sunday poster in the
background little thimble of ice cream in front we're not doing these birthday uh treats anymore
for uh businesses i find that that has disappeared maybe it's just for children but uh i feel like
you can't really get any good deals on your birthday you'll get an embarrassing song that's it oh yeah basically you can you can also humiliate the
staff by making them sing to you that's true yeah that's true yeah you know i'm trying to think of
like anything that offers me a birthday thing i think as a nintendo online member and they know
your birthday they give you like a hundred platinum points or some
crap i think they give you something like that 10 off but it has to be physical merchandise you buy
have shipped to you no thanks but yeah i mean everybody can just fake their birthday in games
you know in though animal crossing i don't fake it and i feel like every time i've gotten an animal
crossing game well except for the pandemic one, was usually my of a September birthday
and then I get the game in like November
and then I'm like, well, I'm going to be playing this game
for another 11 months to finally
get my birthday present in this game.
I had a very sad first pandemic birthday
in Animal Crossing.
My sad animal party.
Then Bart gets his free birthday shave
where he complains about digital audio tapes replacing CDs. And, you know, I could go for his free birthday shave where he complains about digital audio tapes replacing
cds and uh you know i could go for a free birthday shave i'd uh i'd take up a fancy shave on that day
and then then bart gets his free uh tango lesson with rosarita and then i feel like the anime has
really got away with something here his face is at an interesting level i i'm like i have i watched
every single later uh season episode of the
simpsons now but of all the ones i've seen all the ones i remember this has to be the sexiest
character that's ever been drawn on the simpsons like there's been lots of bikini babes and like
girls and like ion springfield but rosarita i was i was fanning myself
well you just wait until earlene lumpkin shows up yeah okay okay the rosarita, I was fanning myself. Well, you just wait until Lurleen Lumpkin shows up.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, okay.
Rosarita, yeah, she has a lot of leg,
and yeah, the part, it's just so crazy.
I love how they draw Bart just his,
the weird look on his face where his head is
when she's doing some of her moves there.
He doesn't understand.
He's befuddled.
All right, now it's time for uh chucky cheese birthday memories any anybody got ones of going to them i mean i went to them
and i feel like this this really captures chucky cheese at a transition point where this is the end
of the child bar era of chucky cheese where it was dark inside and the mascots were kind of seedy
uh it would later turn into like a kind of a discovery zone. Cheese where it was dark inside and the mascots were kind of seedy. It would later turn into like a kind of a discovery
zone style experience where it was more
about like moving around and climbing
and going down slides and it was bright inside
and when I saw that in my like early teen years
I was like Chuck E. Cheese has changed.
It's not about the darkness anymore.
It's not dark.
Well yeah man in your neck of the woods did they
have Chuck E. Cheese's? Chuck E. Cheese
was not a thing.
There wasn't even like, you know, a Canadian parallel like Quebec McBeaver or something, you know.
So the closest thing we had is just, you know, we had Pizza Hut.
So Pizza Hut would, you know, have the ice cream bar and all of that.
And you can go get your maybe go in for your X-Men 92 animated videotape if you took your comic book cutout for the free one.
So we would have a few birthday parties there at McDonald's, but we did not have an actual Chuck E. Cheese, at least in Quebec.
But I don't think there were any in like Ontario or Toronto either.
So it was a pleasure.
I was kind of mystified at whenever Simpsons or other shows referenced.
I was like, what is this?
Why is there so many weird, like, electronic animals wishing children happy birthdays?
It was a foreign thing to me.
I feel like writers were going to the birthday parties of their friends' new children or something like that around this time, which is why this is so true to life especially the robot band the few memories i have of this era of chucky cheese are of the robots being creepy which is
what five nights at freddy's captures perfectly where they were creepy when they were playing
music but then chucky cheese goes we gotta take a break now kids we'll be back in 20 minutes and
then the robots just shut their eyes and the lights kind of turn off there's no curtain that
closes or anything it's just like you're looking at dead robots in front of you and there was a separate room with a singular robot performance i think
it was like an elvis impersonator um kind of like panther or some kind of large cat and that's the
uh what the uh the guy who bart is talking to the robot bart is uh talking back to later in this
episode i feel like they're they're parodying that you know chucky cheese back then it was the treat of like you know you can't even if you you know
have an upper middle class family you can't just go to disneyland or disney world or even six flags
whenever you feel like it and or on a birthday trip and see you know the animatronic country
bears for example but in your neighborhood you probably could go to
or at least in your like county you could go to a chuck e cheese and see some of those animatronics
performing in a similar enough style and uh but i will say you know i it's a regional thing for me
because i grew up in the south and that had showbiz pizza not chucky cheese your chucky cheese have confederate flags
inside no no i think they all did up to a point actually yes you're right they did actually until
someone had to point out to the creator you know what this means and he's like oh god get him out
of here but so but showbiz pizza was the competitor of chucky cheese it had you know the bear the
showbiz bear i think that's the thing they ripped off the
most for five nights at freddy's because it was also inspired by the rock and fire explosion
documentary which was the band of that movie i was so sad when chucky cheese took over and of course
i was like 11 by that time when chucky cheese took bought all the showbiz's and re-skinned the showbiz characters with the Chuck E. Cheese and his munch friends.
Like on the showbiz Rockafire documentary, you can see the training videos of like, here's how you skin the Rockafire explosion and turn them into the munch band and put munch skin on them.
It's sickened me to see.
I wish they wouldn't scream like that. I mostly know the showbiz pizza bear from the Dick the Birthday Boy photo of young Rich Evans.
That's right.
That's the only time I've seen in my life.
Red Letter Media's own Rich Evans and Dick the Birthday Boy, yes.
It's the same.
Look, was it the same shitty pizza and the same games and all the same soda?
Yes, but technically the robots were different,
and I have a childhood
affection for those different robots than the chuck e cheese i think my dad brought me there
because he could drink ah yes yeah uh that's and i guess the the wally the weasel stuff is an adult's
vision of children this children thing like if you're an adult who doesn't care about the games
or the ball pit and everything you just see like the disgusting sadness of it all and the creepiness of it.
And Wally Weasel sadly never really returned in the show.
It does appear in the video game Hit and Run though.
I was, I was just going to say.
Cause Matt, you've done many, many a video about Hit and Run.
Uh, yeah.
Still haven't completed the game and completed that series yet.
It's coming any year now. I'll finish it. But yeah, it was just as you said this while wally weasel doesn't come
back i was like but i swear i've seen it before so i'm like yeah that then you filled in the blank
so so hit and run what a pull since hit and run was like 2003 2004 so they reached back into any
you know viable like locations that you could visit in the game yeah they were really
smart with uh the hit and run i i said it before but i guess i guess road rage really the one right
before it was you'd say is the first but that real start of the era of simpsons games being
made by simpsons fans not just like work a day programmer shoving out a game a game that stars
bart yeah there was one other big change here in the from the storyboards is that it showed Lisa
like riding a pony at Wally's but they they cut that out I think because they realized like Wally
weasels is too cheap to have pony rides I think it was like a mechanical pony because she was like
vibrating on it or something like that okay and one one new joke that I noticed in this uh in this
watch through it's very subtle but when Wally comes out with the pizza, he gets swarmed by kids
and they walk past the Whack-A-Weasel game
and it's like the kids are being trained
to attack Wally.
Oh, yeah.
The joke is like they're being trained
from a young age.
When you see the weasel,
you go for him.
I love the guy's reaction.
I'll do something later.
Go bug your parents.
Maybe later, okay okay they're more excited
over him than uh coco beanie himself that's right yeah and bob you also spotted the miscolored sherry
and or terry in this yes uh a rare appearance of black sherry slash terry so uh they changed
her race briefly and then comes a true classic of video game moments in The Simpsons here with Bart playing Larry the Looter, which, you know, pretty much is Grand Theft Auto.
And it's satire just got passed by Grand Theft Auto, I'd say, just 10 years later.
I think a decade later would be State of Emergency, that bad game.
Oh, yeah.
That was trying to cash in on the GTA fame.
Yeah.
State of Emergency was technically a rock star game.
Yeah.
Like, it's Rockstar.
They paid to publish it. State of
Emergency was made by the developers of Earthworm
Gym 3D.
So yeah, that kind of explains some things.
Oof. I forgot about that. And some
Tom and Jerry game, I think? I think
so. Maybe? Okay, sorry. All of
that's in one of Matt's many very
well-researched
and great What Happened videos you can find on the Flophouse.
Yeah, I guess if you are younger, the joke here is like, wouldn't it be funny if a game was this violent and antisocial?
Yes.
And now this is like in a decade, it would be like every Flash game on Newgrounds, Larry the Looter.
Pretty much.
I guess at first I thought it was kind of just like a slightly meaner double dragon or
final fight i mean technically if you you know if you were just an adult who never played those
games and you saw a kid playing double dragon where you like smash a trash can and eat a
eat a chicken out of it like you might think like oh i see so that's what games are like now
i was gonna say that there was this game that briefly existed on steam for like a week and it's from the developers of sleeping dogs it was called smash and grab
and it was you you and a gang just smash windows to get um loot and that powers up your gang so
that you can fight the other gang and that's the culmination of a round of play so it's like loot
everything get powerful then fight and yeah that was like their last ditch we
got to release something before we close hopefully this will be a hit and it wasn't so then they they
they closed their doors like a week after the game got released oh that's sad i i remember that from
from your sleeping dogs what happened as well i've learned so much in those videos thank you i'm not
i'm not just saying that just because you're here, Matt. I love too when Bart is smashing the windows.
He says, ha ha, stick it to the man.
That's such a great line.
I think instead of, in the storyboards I remember, instead of being shot by the storekeeper,
which reminds me of Spelunky, by the way, he is eaten alive by dogs, like wild dogs.
Which is certainly funny yeah yeah but though you know that ending is more like uh in
donkey kong 3 when stanley the bug man gets hit by bugs just the bugs cover him and all that's left
is his uh is his spray bottle gruesome the way that shotgun blasts his head off is like it's
great it's great so yes then we get another like truly classic uh simpsons moment here i got the clip
if a friend's birthday goes by this is one of there's only like five different birthday videos
you share with a friend on social media and this is one of them hey there i hear it's your birthday
how old are you well that's great would you like us to sing you a special song? Hell no. You got it. Ready, Signor Biberati?
I'm a ready and a one and a two.
You're the birthday, you're the birthday, you're the birthday boy or girl.
Oh, love that. I love that.
Bart's hell no is this great surly childhood reply like i
know you're not listening the illusion is shattered for bart the second he gets interrupted well
that's great so now he's just getting surly with hell though and the cheapness of birthday boy or
girl they won't they won't even have two versions of it that they could play and have to input they're just like nope it is just the one you press it's birthday play this one we see
senor b verati's real fire hazard too yes and also the the crap they they make a great point
on the commentary that kind of crappy animation for bad animatronics is harder to animate because
uh their overseas production company in this case acom the uh the
studio in seoul korea you know they're told all the time get the lip sync better the lip sync needs
to you know they get dot they get you know uh charged extra money or they it costs them more
if they get the lip sync wrong but in this case the lip sync has to be wrong for it to be crappy
animatronics so they said they had to be overly
emphatic to a com of like no guys this one you to do it wrong is to do it right and i think it took
took them a lot of tries it's supposed to be bad yes yeah but uh man i wish be variety and wally
weasel i wish i wish they appeared more i feel like just a few years later they would have done
it just be the itchy and scratchy place done it just be the itchy and scratchy
place like it would just be itchy and scratchy ones though uh though actually uh just a couple
years ago on the simpsons they did a uh homer at a chucky cheese style place but they just made up
like new bears and stuff for it it was not it was not wally not the grand return because i mean
chucky cheese is still out there doing it yeah Yeah, yeah. Our friends at Podcast Ride, they just went to a concert for children, they called it,
where just people in Chuck E. Cheese costumes
danced to lip synced things about like,
it's summertime, yay!
Chuck E. Cheese is now a streamer.
I'm sad he's not a VTuber though.
I really want the VTuber version of Chuck E. Cheese.
You know, I feel like that'd be cheaper
than having just a puppet play a game.
Just yeah, VTube. It's's apparently according to our podcast right pals they define it as full
munch meaning the entire band uh of animatronics getting rarer and rarer you go to a chuck e cheese
just because you go to your lucky local chuck e cheese doesn't mean you get the full band or even
one animatronic they're they're getting phased out
i mean they are expensive and hard to maintain so i i understand it uh all right so then after
after a fire is put out by wally weasel in a costume uh we get to the present time uh i really
love that cheese stretch on homer with the pizza that's good that's good delicious that's one of
the one time i mean if you look at the storyboard on the on the DVD,
there's a lot of macaroning notes. They don't listen
to him all the time. That big pan across the
table. He just like scribbles over in
red marker like we don't need this cut this
but they still keep the long pan across the table.
So I'm glad they didn't listen to him that
time. It's much better. Yeah.
And so Bart is given a
bunch of crappy gifts.
What? It's a label maker. We have one at And so Bart is given a bunch of crappy gifts. What the?
It's a label maker.
Mm-hmm.
We have one at home.
Before we got it, I was always finding Patty's stubble in my leg razor.
Ew.
Bart, I'll bet you think nothing's going to top that cactus.
Well, check out my present.
Next.
Bart, be polite.
Next, please.
Bart, I've noticed your birthday presents are a poor crop at best.
I hope this turns the tide.
Oh, just gorgeous. now we can be twins i love i love that patty and selma love that
that outfit that the barn god and also i mean i uh in in childhood i can i can identify a little
with martin wanting to buy matching clothes for a male friend and not realizing how gay that is.
It's like, no, we're twins.
Hey, we're dressed the same.
Pretty nice.
I will say when I watched this episode for the first time, it did blow my mind because unasked for, I did get a label maker for that Christmas.
And I enjoyed my label maker.
As a very fastidious kid, I enjoyed labeling the outside of all of my Nintendo cartridge cases
so I can see them on the shelf. I can one out at will i was labeling everything it was a good time to be
alive and uh christmas of 91 it was good for me no i think uh after this episode i wanted a label
maker the one i got was just like bart has a ka-chunk ka-chunk ka-chunk ka-chunk i mean it's
a set it's a real satisfying ka-chunk too now i've got a fancy one i think i've used it maybe
three times the one that like actually prints out like laser prints out that's not as fun as the kachunk and
you're shoving a letter through plastic i keep noting more times where jokes are meaner to patty
or selma than i understood them is the joke okay obviously it could just be the joke is selma
saying that patty stubble like they just both have the same leg razor but is the joke that patty shaves her face and it's her facial stubble stubble and selma is using that
because they already did the gag that patty has like mustache facial hair uh i don't think so i
think the joke is she's particular and she can actually identify her sister stubble as opposed
to her own stubble i see she knows her that well it's like this this is your stubble it's not mine yeah i got it to be that like uh she's just reaching for any razor and
she just she just picks out her sisters so she just uses it and doesn't really care which no
i've been i've been kind of accused of doing that with with my wife's razor i'll just be like oh
this one's good and then i'll get yelled at as i should be you should be careful
it's pink for god's sake i should know the difference yeah i mean it's it's a it's a weird
joke to be grossed out at women's leg hair because like well no they're shaving their legs isn't that
what you want yeah yeah i guess you you should do it but not tell people about yeah i don't want to
see it and and i also love homer's like nothing's gonna top that cactus like
over thinks the cactus was great but his is even better this did teach me a lesson as a kid because
i i was a greedy little kid who just wanted all his presents but when i saw homer's sadness there
i was like oh presents are from people like you'll hurt a person's feelings if you don't like a
present or whatever like and it you feel
bad for homer there homer actually i mean homer actually tried to buy something he thought bart
would want like this is not a normal thing for homer to do it's a rare instance of good parenting
misguided maybe to think bart would be into this but uh still good parenting i think but in the
next scene bart is already loving his label maker, putting it on everything.
And Homer is just upset that Bart isn't enjoying his present.
He's just using it to prop up his window.
Is this the rumpus room?
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
Yeah, this is when Homer tries to show Bart how good the microphone could be.
Oh, there's only one can of beer left and it's Bart's.
Hey, boy, how's the microphone working?
Fine.
Bart! I would love to get a present like that!
Here you go. Enjoy!
Listen boy, this is a great invention! Watch!
We got a great big convoy, rocking through the night!
We got a great big convoy. Ain't she a beautiful sight?
Convoy.
Come on, Ben.
Hey, good looking.
We'll be back for some dinner later.
What did you say?
I can't understand you with all that distortion.
Oh.
And she is right.
He is talking too loud, which is why it's coming back in through the microphone.
But it's great that Homer imitates exactly what he saw in the commercial yeah it's so great he has no new bits to do
and just him screaming convoy into it that's that's so great and that
and and great sound design on that distortion too like it's a very good realistic uh sound
distortion but this is when marge feels sorry for homer and and convinces bart to give
it a try which i also just love marge's reaction to hearing her own voice like do i sound like that
like uh great great guy as people who are on videos and podcasts we have gotten used to that
when i first started editing myself that's when i was like oh i guess that's what i sound like i
better better get used to it yeah podcast doing the podcast. Yeah. Yep.
But you know what?
Eventually you can just pay some other people to edit things for you.
You don't have to hear yourself as much.
I mean, you still have to.
But so next, this is when Bart actually sees that there is some quality to this microphone.
You know, Bart, I don't think this is such a bad present.
Maybe you just shouldn't talk into it as loud as your father does. Testing. quality to this microphone. Hmm. Mmm, chocolate. Oh! Mmm, chocolate.
Oh!
Marge, we need some more vanilla chocolate and strawberry ice cream.
I'll get some at the store tomorrow, Homer.
Mmm, chocolate.
People of Earth, this is Bartron, commander of the Martian invasion force.
Your planet is in our hands.
Resistance is useless.
We have captured your president.
He was delicious.
Why, you little...
Wait a minute.
Does this mean you like my present?
Uh-huh.
Oh.
Just promise me you won't play
any more practical jokes.
I promise.
The strangled,
uh-huh, uh-huh.
Yeah, see,
Homer won't stop
strangling him to ask.
He has to know,
like, wait a minute,
does this mean you liked it?
I was going to ask,
are we still buying
ice cream like this?
The last time I saw
Neapolitan ice cream
in this form
was at my grandma's house 20 years ago and everyone favored every flavor but strawberry uh vanilla and chocolate
were the first to go and you said like gross freezer burn strawberry until that i mean it
was done strawberry is the crappiest of them all and then of the three i would say but it also gets
worse over time with this freezer i normally I normally like strawberry ice cream, but not like that.
I've seen flavors like Neapolitan flavors
in other products.
Like there's Neapolitan Oreos, for example,
like a few years ago.
And I can't remember the last time
I've actually seen one in a freezer.
I think we as a society have all moved on.
That's good because I think as a dessert,
you're supposed to be served a small square of it
with all three flavors present. It's not supposed
to be you get a giant bucket of it
and choose which one you want to scoop out.
And now I think we all just
do like the little pints because I was
looking through my, there's like one
drawer in my kitchen with implements
I never use so they're put in there. I was like, oh I do have
an ice cream scoop. When was the last time I ever
scooped ice cream with this? Yeah.
Because I just eat out of a pint thing and then put it back in the freezer when i'm done yeah well and also
like who who gets ice cream that's one flavor or even just a stripe of three flavors like every
ice cream i mean if i were to get a ben and jerry's like or i would get a ben and jerry's or a haagen
dazs that is a flavor that's a mix of things not just like vanilla or chocolate i like halo top
sure sure hey if we're counting
our calories halo tops the best and they have some good flavors that's just one flavor yeah
okay well i still would get like mint chocolate chip or something i want to mix it yeah me too
i'm a simple man now i associate that neapolitan ice cream with i feel like if you went to a
grocery outlet and you were like say say you were chaperoning like a class
you're a teacher chaperoning a class for the day you're like i need a giant bucket of ice cream
that i can just give to all the kids i think you will get a five dollar bucket in neapolitan yeah
yeah you will it's good in bulk i guess yeah yeah uh such a brilliant joke that homer just only is
a chocolate out of it won't buy chocolate ice cream
and just has two empty boxes and will soon have a third empty box in there like that's such a great
joke and that it was in the bergstrom episode originally and they cut it and they actually
kept it and brought it back it's a good time eater a lot of repeated lines and also homer
new level of stupidity that he instantly believes aliens have invaded and grabs a shotgun and is just going to run off into the night with it.
I guess the original joke, it's not in the storyboards either, I think it was just in the initial draft, is that Homer was mixing like strychnine and flavor aid like Jim Jones.
Right, right.
So he was going to make his family drink poison because of the invading aliens.
That's darker darker that's even
darker than him strangling his son until bart says he likes it uh and uh and if you pull out your dvds
during the bart strangling scene if you press enter you will see the uh original david silverman
layout drawing of the strangulation and it looks great oh nice this is when they should have taken
that uh microphone
away from bart because what's worse than bart not liking it is him liking it and using it for
mischief first he pranks marge that maggie's talked which i think it's great to do that one
first because since it's at the start of the act like you might forget that bart was pulling
pranks so just for a second the viewer might actually think oh my god maggie's first word right here i love bart's reply like sorry lady show's over we get the return of
non-threatening boys magazine as lisa is talking with janie about cory and her love of cory
three corys and a rare keifer are on the cover of this by 92 keifer was aging out of the boy
of the the boy craze scene, I think.
I guess he had recently been a lost boy, but that was five years ago, I think, at this point.
Plus, the scariest bully in Stand By Me.
Oh, right.
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Bart uses it for a fart joke, which I have the clip here.
I love that he uses a fart joke, and then he gets high-minded compliments from Nelson for it.
And then it leads to one of the funniest scenes.
Again, another like true classic scene here.
This is Krabappel.
That was uncalled for.
Bravo.
Well done, old man.
Hmm.
Rod, Todd, this is God. Done, old man. Hmm. Rod.
Todd.
This is God.
How did you get on the radio?
What do you mean, how did I get on the radio?
I created the universe, stupid kids.
Forgive my brother.
Will you believe you?
Talk is cheap.
Perhaps a test of thy faith.
Walk through the wall.
I will remove it for you.
Later. What do you want from us? I will remove it for you. Later.
What do you want from us?
I got a job for thee.
Bring forth all the cookies from your kitchen and leave them on the Simpsons porch.
But those cookies belong to our parents.
Look, do you want a happy God or a vengeful God?
Happy God.
Then quit flapping your lip and make with the cookies.
Yes, sir.
Boy, yeah, amazing. boy uh yeah amazing and they really figure out rod and todd because before they were just normal
good kids now they are just like cowardly pious weirdos who are easily misled because they're so
sheltered and this is where they figure out rod and todd it's great yes yeah you're right this
the comedy with them is that they are such true believers that they can be fooled with any
silly thing and and honestly tortured to an extent uh but but they're so innocent that you
they don't even get mad at bart and they don't ever believe it's not god they're like well it
must be god we have to do it though they're they're also such good boys that they even disagree with
god for a second because they know it's stealing from their parents and they have to bart has to tell them like i'm god i say it's okay you do what i tell
you piss me off happy god happy that's such a great line but i also love bart getting all those
these and those in there like uh thou shall bring me these that's good i have a job for thee and then and uh cartwright's on the commentary to
nancy cartwright and she mentions that this is one of her favorites to like perform live at you know
if she's uh giving a speech somewhere she loves to if james lipton is talking to her yes yeah
this is when bart decides he's going to take it to another level this is after playing god bart
bart's hubris reaches a whole new level you know i think in the storyboards it's more clear that
the old well is on school property yeah it's supposed to be near the elementary and on the
storyboards like matt graining drew like a little roof over the well that they don't end up actually
putting in the show so i think he wanted like a traditional well with like the bucket and everything it'd be harder to animate around
that roof i think they were right to not keep it in there i think but but yes this is when bart
lowers his uh radio and he sees how far down it goes which uh is a warning for later for him
he tricks groundskeeper willie just for a second uh that's uh willie's like i'll get you in trouble
and the fact that he like has to take a long sip from his flask for a second uh that's uh willie's like i'll get you in trouble and the fact that
he like has to take a long sip from his flask for a nip of courage a wee nip wee nip yeah uh i mean
john vd very smartly he's building in all of these like justifications and mechanics to the prank
where well bart was going to lower the radio and he wasn't just going to drop it and he was going
to lower it in and he doesn't bring enough rope so he can't get it back right so that's why it's
still functioning but also uh he cannot obtain it again and then later we find out oh it's actually too dark to
see the bottom which is why that could that could never happen honestly in real life but they build
that justification in like why can't they see timmy it's too dark yeah we have to believe what
timmy says timmy says he has no parents so we can't find his parents to ask them like yeah
bart is pretty good at working on the fly with that stuff too this is when they jasper it's so perfect that jasper is like the honestly
like a character out of ace in the hole the old man going like bygar well i'll say bygar later
he was like some boy fell down the well like that's a perfect line for jasper to say and uh
right at the well we see uh dave shutton is there which i think him being the closest to the
well and one of the first asking questions that feels like a reference to ace in the holes chuck
tatum yeah that's right and uh this is his real last big appearance before lg brings him back once
and i think season 14 oh you know what no his oh why is it part two of uh who shot mr burton yeah
do your job shutton or whatever
kent says to him no yeah yeah he says like who are you what are you doing here do you do your
research oh do your research but his hair isn't blue at this point we have to talk about uh little
baby jessica all right let's do it uh because part of this is also based on that real life event
which at this time was maybe not even five years old so this 18 month old baby fell into a
well in her aunt's backyard in october of 87 it was a huge media event they rescued her after 56
hours i think they had to amputate a toe and she got like a scar on her head otherwise she was fine
and it was i was uh barely five at the time it was the first like current news event i remember
like the first like big news event that was being covered and family members were talking about it.
It was only two or three days.
But yeah, it was a big deal in 1987.
And there were lots of parodies and it was still fresh in the cultural memory.
And this is what is the episode drawing on that as well.
Yeah. And in 1989, they did a TV movie of it.
Like it was a huge.
I remember it being a huge event too on the first things like you turn on tv and and my exposure to 24-hour news media coverage of something i'm just like well we're
gonna stick with this thing like it's yeah i i don't know did did the baby jessica news uh get
up to your side of the border matt it did and i remember the tv movie like you know i have vague
memories of of watching it or my parents watching it so i think
at the time this episode uh aired or around then i was like oh yeah there's some some baby jennifer
you know i couldn't remember the exact uh lady girl j name but i was like oh yeah there's this
baby that fell down a well that's that's what this is like lampooning at the time so um the the the
other source you were
saying the uh the older movie i was like i had no idea about that but this was all baby jessica's
show to me yeah and uh people getting stuck in things is always big news this is mentioned in
ace in the hole the story of floyd collins in 1925 he got stuck in a cave and it was because
the radio was new it was one of the first big worldwide news events
that could be covered live
he was not rescued in time
and of course this is new since we last covered
the episode there was a northern Thailand
incident in which like a football
team got caught into
a cave system and of course
that's where we all learned about Elon Musk was
truly about calling heroes pedophiles
and I read he actually won the defamation case he's like oh pedo That's where we all learned what Elon Musk was truly about, calling him pedophiles.
He actually won the defamation case.
He's like, oh, pedo guy is just a slang in South Africa.
Don't worry about it.
I wasn't calling him a pedophile.
But yeah, all 12 boys and their coach survived.
I believe a rescue worker did drown in that attempt.
But it was big news.
People like hearing about people stuck in things.
Remember Balloon Boy?
The hoax?
Yeah, the hoax got us all. That was Timmy O'toole that was the truly timmy o'toole yeah that's you know an ace
in the hole yeah he explains that factory's like a thousand people who cares nobody the more the
bigger the group of people people don't care but if it's one person it's a human interest story and
i love that his in ace in the hole his boss the editor-in-chief who's
supposed to be the good journalist like he's the moral compass he's like i hate that style of
journalism like it's not really you know it's it's just tugging on heartstrings for attention
like it's not real journalism well i don't want to spoil ace in the hole but yeah in the real world
the jessica uh story like at least it had a happy ending and
they and they got her out pretty quick actually when they explain how the how they discover later
in the episode they say like oh we found this machine that'll do this thing from what i read
like jessica was saved uh so fast by a water jet system that was relatively new for cutting into
the ground faster they were like we'll save her using technology yes and she she had to meet hw the vice president at the time she didn't even get
to meet reagan which i if i were her parents i'd be like hey come on what a give us reagan
and uh i i read a 2017 to 30 years later story with her where she is you know like in her early
30s then i guess she'd be in her mid-30s now uh that who she lives still in the same town i'd have moved out of that town if i was her but
and and then everybody knows her as baby jessica like oh it's baby jessica but she's you know
married and all that but the saddest part of the story from 2017 was that so a bunch of people gave
donations and money to her which was put into a trust fund so
her family couldn't get it and when she uh turned i believe 25 the trust fund unlocked and it was
1.2 million which pretty good though you know not truly rich but unfortunately well she says a good
chunk of that she did buy a house in texas with it but she said a good chunk of that uh went away in the 2008
recession thanks to the the market crash she lost a lot of it i thought she tripped and it fell down
a well she apparently lives within like two miles of that well still like they could strike again i
would not go near that thing you know if she honestly i think though the ted turner cnn at
the very least should have just paid her $5 million for all the programming her whale falling into gave them.
Like, $1.2 million, that's low.
Think of all the Noid commercials that aired during that event.
Yeah, so you're right, Bob.
It is also a parody of that.
Though there wasn't a recent hoax. The Balloon Boy was, like it is also a parody of that but though there wasn't a a recent hoax
the balloon boy was like the biggest hoax of that nature we hear why they as the town meets timmy
we hear why he can't so easily be saved my name is timmy o'toole i just turned 10 years old
tell me why are your parents uh i have family. I tried to enroll in school,
but your principal Skinner turned me away
because of my shabby clothes.
Diesel wire!
The circumference of the well is 34 inches,
so unfortunately, not one member of our city's police force
is slender enough to rescue the boy.
By God, man, you're a bunch of marshmallows.
Why don't you go, Chief?
Well, I'm too important.
Although the well is too dark to see the boy,
Timmy has told us his foot is trapped under a rock.
Thus, any attempt to pull him up would snap him like a twig.
In desperation, the city is considering
more unorthodox solutions.
Grasping the child firmly in his talons,
Socrates here will fly him to safety.
Just watch.
I don't think he's coming back.
With this hook and this hunk of chocolate,
I'll land your boy,
and I'll clean him for free.
Although we can't reach the boy,
we can freeze him with liquid nitrogen
so that future generations can
rescue him. Yeah, Frank
replaced the Rainmaker guy. I love
the, it's like a plunger pulls
him out there. That pulls out the little
toy boy. I don't
think he's coming back. That's such
a great delivery. I enjoy how sedate
he is. Credit to Dan Castaneda for making
up that weird voice for
this falconer you would figure a falconer is probably a weird guy who speaks also very quietly
to his falcon that's i i would bet that and also yeah wiggum's got black hair this entire episode
it's a little distracting i love that bart one of bart's first moves is to like use it to attack
skinner like the whole town turns on skinner. Yeah, like I said, we see more Skinner torture
in the storyboard, in the first draft of the episode.
I love that Skinner's move is the worst.
Already Bart gets them to turn on him,
and then he makes the worst choice of saying,
he's a liar, calling the boy every person in town loves a liar.
But Skinner is later a big part of the rescue efforts, which surprised me.
He's like, I must save Bart.
And, oh yeah, also distracting in the scene on top of Wiggum's black hair.
Normally Kent Brockman is front facing, but in this one they have his lip turned to the side a little bit in his front facing.
It's not typical.
They get it a little wrong.
And of course the guy saying, I'll catch boy that is a jaws reference he's he's even wearing the cable knit sweater that uh went went thank you bob yeah quince it wears
famous mallrats character oh that's right uh and uh so then uh after all all this uh we get another very deep reference uh which uh it's it's not just a we
are the world parody oh this yeah this goes extremely uh deep so we're on to we're sending
our love down the well which yes it is uh a parody of the usa for africa song we are the world
especially certain segments of the song but more specifically it is based
on Voices That Care
which I assume no one has ever heard
of. This was a pro
troop song by a super group
of the same name. So Voices That Care, bye
Voices That Care. It was for
the Gulf War. So
this was a very embarrassing thing
because the Fox special
airing the making of the song and the song aired on February 28th, 1991.
And that was the day President Bush announced the ceasefire declaring Kuwait free and Iraqi forces defeated.
And the single did not release until March 13th.
And you can watch this online.
And it is very embarrassing because celebrities are very
proud of themselves for we all got together on a Sunday can you believe it all of us we cleared
we cleared our schedules and we all came together to tell the troops come home safely
and if you look I mean yes there was loss of life in the Gulf War but compared to other life in the gulf war but compared to other uh wars in the middle east especially later ones
that we would uh you know be responsible for uh like 96 people died i think in combat yeah yeah
i mean it's certainly people were well i it was just celebrities trying to say voices that care
is such a great name for it because they're like yes we care it's about them yeah it's about them
we the voices that care it's like we are the world
as a message is just like hey we're all together so let's feed these people who are starving in
another country because we are the world but instead in this one it's like you guys are doing
what you're doing over there and we're the voices that care like the voices that care does center
the song on them it's not not about you yeah it's
not as good as we are the world and even though mcbain or rainier wolf castle is in we're sending
our love down the well arnold schwarzenegger is conspicuously absent from voices that care
my theory is he was on the brink of getting into politics and he did not want to seem anti-war
for being a Republican candidate.
I think you're onto something.
I agree.
But Voices That Care, I will give them credit.
They have a bigger selection of superstars than We Are The World.
The chorus has like John Lovitz, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, Meryl Streep, Kevin Costner, and like 50 other people, the most famous people in 1991,
are part of the chorus of Voices That Care.
And, you know, despite the, you know, Operation Desert Storm being mainly an American operation, the song also does bring in a lot of like some Canadian stars.
Celine Dion sings in this.
And, you know, man, this is 1991 when Celine Dion was, I mean, she was known on american airwaves but she was not yet
i'd say famous in the u.s uh compared to uh canada she's not at titanic uh levels yet i was i was
just talking about this with my wife we're just talking about uh celine dion because we're
watching something i think buffy an episode of buffy where they they drop a celine dion reference
and uh we were just saying like was she really big at that point i was like well i i think in america she only really blew up like after titanic so yeah she
was known but like she wasn't like a mega star yet i don't think she was not on the beauty and
the beast soundtrack yet right yes that was later that year that was her yeah yeah you're right yeah
i and so the fact that the simpsons are so savage to voices that care is also because it aired the same night as simpsons
that february 28th 1991 when it aired it was right after a repeat of bart to the daredevil so
the simpsons fox got the deal to show it and well there's little bits missing from it uh from the
upload but basically the entire special uh promoting it uh that aired on fox is on youtube
and you can watch it it's it's hosted by james woods what a great great thing to see proud
american i i have a i have a quick clip here of uh this is kenny rogers meryl streep and jane
seymour in order talking about uh in the special why they're doing voices that care i had a brother
that was in vietnam and i know
what happens after the war if you don't feel the public support because in effect they're fighting
our war for us and if we don't appreciate it it doesn't make risking their lives worthwhile
well i'm here because steve's there and i want to send him our love and tell him we're thinking
about him every day and i'm hoping i can find the kids to send you their love too.
Uncle Steve, he's somewhere near Riyadh.
They're doing a great job for our country, for the world.
And we're standing there behind them, and I personally am.
I think they're very brave, and I'm thankful to them for what they're doing.
Yeah, the phrase sending our love happens a lot.
That's no coincidence.
And one last thing, there's a very funny bit with one of Caitlyn Jenner's former wives
where she says, oh, I see the soldiers on TV, and then I look at my kids' faces,
and I think that could be them over there in a few years.
It's like, A, no, B, look how rich you are.
That's not going to happen.
It will never happen. Yeah, and also the war's over yeah i yes it's also great like kenny g plays like a great sax solo into the chorus of singers and like uh and i wanted to play that
one too because it's an interesting dichotomy you have kenny rogers who explains why a lot of
the celebs are doing it is because they feel guilty that they
in their youths weren't positive enough about vietnam which is like come on you guys didn't
need to be nice about that we shouldn't have been there but then meryl streep i think she actually
is good because she's like i'm not just doing this because of any rando like he she says steve
she has a brother-in-law who actually is there like she says is in riyadh in
in a station in riyadh in saudi arabia then at least she actually has like skin in the game too
but uh but yeah this entire well song it's so them attacking the stupid thing of just celebrities
making it all about them or oh no wait sorry i have one last thought about voices of care
which was maybe the tackiest thing they did at it because they filmed all the celebrities as a group singing together they
filmed it on the warner brothers lot they make it very clear like oh we're at the warner lot
we're the warner lock is definitely it felt like warner brothers wanted to make clear like that's
right we support the troops warner brothers made this happen And the tackiest thing that some Warner PR person did was there is a full mascot costume of Bugs Bunny standing there with the other people.
I must have missed that.
Yeah.
That's pretty embarrassing.
But yeah, I think the first time we did this, they were like, yeah, we are the world.
Yeah, we know.
But it's like, no, it's actually voices that care.
Yes.
Something that no one actually cares about.
Though, of course, the way Kr crusty sings in it is directly mocking
bruce springsteen's way of singing we are the world who they wanted for this episode and they
still have never gotten bruce on the show yes yeah this this is already matt this is already
our second story uh this season about they tried to get bruce springsteen and he wouldn't do it
like because the aerosmith in flaming mose they wanted that to be bruce he said no and they even say they like they send him expensive gift baskets
and he's like hey thanks guys see you later is there is there is there any like like reason
cromulent reason why he he doesn't bruce has ever given as to why he doesn't want to be on the show
or i think he only does other media projects with former presidents yeah he really he's just very choosy he just doesn't do he doesn't do comedy
appearances of himself that much i think it's really just that it also sounds like uh their
second choice was stevie wonder to the point where one of the lines thing says sounds like it was
written for stevie wonder because sting says you know for Krusty in 69 as I recall he fired me well Sting was 18 years old in 69 he might be playing music as an
amateur he wasn't opening for clowns no and Stevie Wonder had a number one song in 1963 so I feel
like they forgot to change it or they didn't care enough to change it if they just changed it to 79
the joke would work fine or yeah just 85 but as a kid i did actually know the police song i'll be
watching you i didn't know that song but it was later in life i may put it together that sting
was that guy from the police but uh yeah i i appreciate that on the commentary cartwright
calls out they call sting the second choice and then she's like but wait i've got my original
script here and stevie wonders in it and now she goes um he was a middle choice uh yeah he's also in we are the world i think they didn't want to
do it because they're like you're making fun of what we did uh in the 80s right i would think at
least stevie wonder turned that down for that reason yeah i and uh and john vini went to new
york to record with sting and i think sting's funny he's i mean he doesn't have to do too much but he's he's all right and he actually does sing uh and i like that sting is the only
other celebrity there that was real it's all just springfieldians uh around him at that and a
capital city the weather lady yeah the capital city goofball sing along and yeah bob that's the
first visible appearance of stephanie the weather lady yeah oh oh and it's the first time sideshow mel talks just for that joke so that has to be his voice
for the rest of the show just for that one joke of him being a great singer they're like well i
guess this is just how sideshow mel sounds from now on and there's a big note in the storyboard
it's like make sure rainier has like one uh hand up to the to the headphones or whatever just that's
what they were doing on We Are
the World. And I'll just drop in
the full Well song right here.
When you really care about
someone, you shout it from the
mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins
Insurance, I'm standing 20,000
feet above sea level to tell our clients
that we really care about you.
Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs.
Weird, I don't remember saying that part.
Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care.
Did I mention that we care?
There's a hole in my heart as deep as the well For that poor little boy
Who's stuck halfway to hell
Though we can't get him out
We'll do the next best thing
We'll go on TV and sing
Sing, sing
And we're sending our love down the well
All the way down
We're sending our love down the well. All the way down. We're sending our love
down the well.
Down that well.
Grusty, what are your plans for the royalties?
Well, we gotta pay for promotion,
shipping, distribution.
You know, those limos out back,
they aren't free.
Whatever's left, we throw down the well.
But I also love that the it also
works as a great parody of voices that care because the way they say it is like so we're
sending our love down the well and we can't get them out we'll do the next next best thing we'll
get on tv and sing sing sing which is like that is not the next best thing it is actually incredibly
useless and is just to show off that you care and also that crusty even reveals
on tv that it's just like a giant uh money laundering scheme pretty much he's like yeah
you know this limo is out back they ain't free they just throw the rest of the money into the
well yeah this big shot of the carnival around it like that's the closest to the ace in the hole
parody like i think the big rise up shot is pretty much just straight from the movie and ace in the hole is pre uh we are the world obviously but the the victim in that
movie does get a song written about him that plays like incessantly in the back half of the movie
because there's just like a big band constantly playing it good old leo yeah he's my favorite
shots in the movie some of them are when they they keep bringing leo cigars to show him how much they
love him and then you see him later and he's just covered in these cigars he's not smoking because he's like
can you just save me i don't want any more cigars i love i love bags of timmy o'toole baby teeth and
i survived timmy o'toole getting trapped in a well shirt that's so great this is when they
started moving comic book guy out of the comic book store and he's like well i guess he sells
bootleg t-shirts at like the spinal tap concert and at timmy o'toole events he had he had more hustle back in those days to
sell bootleg t-shirts now you can't get comic book guy to leave his stool for much i think it was
because matt grating was just amused at all the simpsons bootlegs like he collected them when they
were a big deal uh when they were more popular simpsons bootleg merchandise so i think he just
wanted to work that into the show. Yeah, I bet.
Yeah, yeah.
You're right.
You're right.
We then see a itchy and scratchy cartoon, which is great.
Just like old cartoons, there's a lot of suicide jokes in it.
And the gator chewing on Scratchy and then sucking his tail down like a noodle.
Like, that's some great animation.
That was a Matt Groening note.
Suck his tail in like spaghetti.
Oh, that's awesome great animation that was a matt graining note uh suck his tail in like spaghetti oh that's awesome yeah yeah i i remember that the bullet hole in crust in
scratchy's head is also was a graining note which is so much funnier in this in the storyboard it's
just that scratchy like he explodes like a bomb is handed to his his ghost and the ghost explodes
it's way funnier to shoot a bullet through the head of a ghost that leaves the hole
and the tribute to timmy o'toole at the end even touches lisa there's a yellow ribbon yes just like
voices of care yeah yeah and uh then uh frank welker earned some money here as uh he does i i
didn't check that he's in the credits or not he's not credited i think it could be dan doing this i
don't know these growls and the howls well well why don't we give a listen it's very simple cat the child is reverting to a feral
or wolf-like state here's an honest conception
i was trying to gnaw my foot off, but I couldn't get through my sock.
Good night, everybody.
Bart Simpson, the thought of a boy trapped in a well
brought out the kindness and love of the entire community.
When they find out you've been fooling them,
they're going to want to cut you up with rusty razors.
Oh, yeah? How are they going to find out?
The police will catch you sooner
or later. The police?
They couldn't catch a cold. Maybe not.
But I bet you're stupid enough to have left
a property of Bart Simpson label on that
radio.
That's a great super pan there.
So at the start of that, that snarling really sounds like
welker to me i think you're right uh i just don't think he's credited they probably had him there
for other things they're like can you growl a few times you know this would be a few years maybe it
took a few more years for welker to put his foot down like you got to give me credit guys i need
yeah i need some simpsons credits on my resume i mean he doesn't need them but he should want them
and another storyboard
thing i remembered is on the storyboards for the pan into the well the note is like oh just like
in birth the murderer when when they pan across town to uh see that the the permission slip is
still on the bed oh that's great yeah wow i you know uh well this also knowing the storyboards
and how they cut that skinner reading the book scene. This is where I realized the shot of live from the well,
they must have animated that Skinner scene,
but they just don't have the deleted scenes out there.
Yeah, it's weird because this is maybe too in detail for our show.
So please, my apologies.
But the establishing shot is daytime.
And then when there's the shot of people looking at the well at the snarling boy,
they have these weird outlines around them.
That's because it was a night scene that they digitally colored blue around them
and they couldn't get all the lines very tight but then in the same scene behind the tv it's night
outside so they forgot about like with it within the same scene you can see outside in its nighttime
so yes very weird it's very chopped up and everybody's wearing well hats which are not
invisible in any other shots at the well like a hat with a well on top of it so yeah they it's very chopped up and everybody's wearing well hats which are not invisible in any other shots at
the well like a hat with a well on top of it so yeah they it's just too bad everything from season
four on where they're able to dig up their actual animation they did of deleted scenes but for one
through three on the dvds there's very rare actual deleted animation that they uh that they bring
back out but uh yeah i i also just love
marvin monroe is right there to be like well clearly he's turned into a wolf boy and he's
got a drawing right there for it that's so great he's ready for this my favorite uh and and also
this is the first time i caught that uh lisa's lisa it's another joke where she says this brought
out the kindness and love of the town and once they learn the truth
they'll cut you up with rusty razors like that shows the kindness of the town is so shallow
they're gonna rip a boy to shreds when they find out who he is you know this feels like a better
version of telltale head or like a version made by a staff that really knows what they're doing now
oh yeah yeah you're right this is very similar to Telltale Head, except better. And they know what they're doing.
Yeah.
Bart realizes he's got to get that radio back or else he's going to get caught eventually,
even by cops as stupid as the ones in Springfield, which is great.
I love that it's about cops are stupid.
And also, most of them are too fat to do anything, too.
It's just...
Eddie and Lou may be too cowardly.
I think Lou might be able
to slip down there but 34 inches that's not a big circumference for a well no way yeah i think
it's also cute that of all the things they the cops could be reading to timmy o'toole it's
cinderella and describing petticoats to the boy out of all things as they walk away this is when
bart uh travels down the well we get to hear the
for the first time their axle f parody theme the uh from beverly hills cop that's the it's called
the theme from afro steam for axle f that's the name of the song uh bart unfortunately he gets
trapped down in the well because his rope is just kicked off by the cops he goes like oh what's this
yeah and kicks it away and for some reason uh he's trapped under a rock just like the guy in ace in
the hole even though it's like well how did that happen he just fell down a well yeah well and also
it's exactly how bart described timmy as oh yeah yeah so that makes it even funnier that bart says
like what did i do to deserve you deserve this his what did i do to deserve this? What did I do to deserve this? The perfect poetic justice.
But this is when Bart
is forced to come clean.
What did I do to deserve this?
Help! Help!
I fell down the well!
Tell us something we don't know.
No! My name is
Bart Simpson!
What are you doing down there?
Look, I'll level with you.
There is no Timmy O'Toole.
It was just a prank I was playing on everybody.
Well, you sure fooled us, kid.
Hey, I got an idea for a prank.
Let's go home and go to sleep.
Good one, Eddie.
Great joke guys guys yeah love when i love when that wolf howl comes in
bart i like how that he uh prefaces with i'll level with you guys because bart is deciding i guess truth is his better gamble here because he could just keep
pretending like uh yeah that's right i am timmy o'toole better save me but he decides to try the
truth with the cops he's like you know at all level with you guys and and they reuse animation
to show the cops didn't go home they use a scene from bart versus thanksgiving to uh have like a
eddie and lou talking to homer and marge situation which is not obviously not in the
storyboards because it's an additional scene from uh season two but that tells me i would bet that
it was james l brooks that said you need to see homer and marge learn about it like you can't
just have homer and marge show up at the next day i i do love his reply of like you must think we're
the worst appearances in the world yeah it's pretty much feeling down the station yeah uh but the carnival is already over as uh well how is it
the kirk douglas puts his like this cut this circus is over but every everybody's gone home
uh and that uh homer i love that homer still gets so pissed at Bart that he's like, I like to see a fit.
Yeah.
Homer's squeezing and like trying to shove his way down the well.
He's basically arrested for this.
Yes.
The other storyboard thing I remember is Homer, like he tosses more things down to Bart, including the aquarium that he's holding.
And Matt Groening is like, no, no, he's not tossing an aquarium down into the well.
Crosses that out. I bet it was Matt didn't want to see uh the fish die yeah I think so it's funny enough just to see Homer holding a bag with his goldfish in it to be like Homer intends to kill
these fish but he doesn't get away with it also noticeable in the background is Wes Archer's
caricature he's raking leaves in the background. Very, very obvious.
The man with the beret.
Yes, yeah.
Big hair and a beret, which is not how Wes Archer dresses these days.
No.
Or probably ever.
Yes, Marge is very distraught asking for help from Wiggum, but the town has turned on Bart.
I brought you your crusty dough.
Ow!
Knock it off, you bald boob!
Hey! Don't make me come down there!
I'd like to see you fit.
Why you let him!
Put a mane on him.
I like the other boy. So polite.
What are you doing to save my baby boy?
Well, ma'am, we've located a piece of machinery in Shreveport, Louisiana that could pop him out lickety-split.
Well, why don't you get it?
Well, I'm afraid we've got a budget problem, Mrs. Simpson.
Your boy picked a bad time to fall down a well.
Had he done it at the start of the fiscal year, no problemo.
You're telling me that the city won't pay to get a boy out of a well?
Well, they would have for Timmy.
People love that little guy.
But your son, well, he kind of played us off for a bunch of saps.
So it seems we've all been the victims of a cruel hoax perpetrated by a ten-year-old hooligan.
The time has come for finger-pointing, and most of them are squarely aimed at the boy's parents.
It's not our fault. We didn't want the boy. He was an accident.
Homer!
Uh, could you edit that last part out?
Mr. Simpson, we're live coast to coast
and uh you know if you watch just the uh episode before this one i'm mary marge that's how you
learn how bart was an accident so it's canon yeah but then when he says it's cute right yes yeah
so matt i also could not think of uh your wall hopping videos hearing the fiscal year joke
because it's that fiscal year has damned many a release that can't miss a fiscal year deadline
it really has i've like it's not an ironclad rule but if any game is trying to release
in the last few weeks of march like just be just be a little bit more wary about its quality because
most likely it's being shoved out the door to to make that fiscal year oh i was shoved out the door to meet a fiscal year
i think you were too henry yes yeah oh yeah yeah that wasn't a fiscal year yeah
the bloodbath start in february folks no i yeah with the game the most recent uh time i noticed
that was the strangers uh strangers the Night Final Fantasy game or
Strangers of Paradise, not Strangers.
Strangers on the Train.
But in that one it was like, it comes out
weeks after Elden Ring,
which is terrible timing for a Souls-like
game to come out, but I
was certain of it. I got some off-the-record
confirmation of that of just
like, yeah, it literally, it has to
come out in March. Square Enix will not release it outside of the fiscal year it's got to be before march 31st that sounds
about right which uh you know hey uh the reviews were good for that game i think it did all right
uh but i i still haven't touched it because you know after 120 hours elden ring i i'm i'm good
on souls for a little it'll be'll be $20 this Christmas, folks.
Or maybe even just shove down to Game Pass, you know.
You Game Pass elitist.
Hey, Game Pass is great, Bob.
It's the way of the future.
Way of the future.
Too much content.
Give me fewer games, I say.
Fewer.
I also love that Kent, as the media, says, like,
and it's time for finger pointing and of course the
media takes no blame themselves in in failing to catch that this was a hoax and just puts it all
on their parents like that's such a great gag too it again reminds me of i brought it up before but
that that britney spears doc uh about save britney that the new york times did uh for hulu it's about
how like oh we were so the
tabloid media was so cruel to britney back when she was you know a teenager we we really regret
that and it's like oh great you know 20 years later the media finds themselves you know now
not guilty of being horrible they're just like oh in the past we were pretty bad to start with
certainly not now no no no i also just love i do believe we're naked by
funky see funky do like that's such a great delivery and it's like a mix of kid and play
and vanilla ice these two guys yeah yeah oh and i meant a little millie vanillie oh sure sure yeah
oh did i say vanilla ice i meant millie vanillie oh yeah yes too many vanilla based rap groups
and also just drop it all the way down to number 97 like that's such
a great delivery too and i also love quimby just being forthright of like so i am flip-flopping
like everybody loves it he officially says he's flip-flopping as a as a uh political as a
politician i i think that would be refreshing if politicians just announce it like it's coming
and like any second now i am flip-flopping if you
just say that you are you don't have to be caught out for it later yeah get in front of it yeah
yeah exactly you know it's a good strategy yeah like so i yes the next time some senator or
governor just needs to say like so i am flip-flopping though and talk about also perfect
parody of the media there would be newspaper opinion
pieces now says that's a town too well boy no more free food like it's just it's such a great
like uh parody of like just the cruelty of just like you know what fuck this guy fuck this kid
you know no more free food for you but this is when bart finally learns his lesson and Homer, well, he can't stands no more.
Bart, honey, I made you an extra warm sweater you can wear while you're down in the well.
Mom, it's too big.
Don't worry, you'll grow into it.
Homer!
You know, I've done a lot of bad stuff through the years.
I guess now I'm paying the price.
But there's so many things I'll never get a chance to do.
Smoke a cigarette. use a fake id shave a swear word in my hair that's all i can stands i can't stands no more i'm gonna get you out of there myself
uh so i like the popeye reference it's clearly an adr line uh i like the Popeye reference. It's clearly an ADR line.
I like the original line in the storyboards where Bart says all the things he wishes he could have done.
And they're all like bad kid things.
And Homer's response is, son, you're going to do all those things and more.
That is a great line.
It's funny to hear Homer say Popeye stuff, but that actually is a pretty great line.
Yeah.
Though, you know what?
It would be Milhouse who shaves a swear word in his hair what is it with you children in that word
and there's some great animation on Homer digging while Marge then instantly brings up a wheelbarrow
off screen to tell some random man just shows up I love that he just has a pixar pickaxe in his
hand and stands there but of course you know we already talked about that we get the big reveal that sideshow mel that's what his voice sounds like here's another detail
that they stuck with from then on groundskeeper willie is like cut he is uh a hot he has a sexy
beach bod it's all that groundskeeping yeah it works and they admit he they draw him with a
punch when he has clothes on when his clothes come come off, he is Mr. Olympia.
It's just like Ned Flanders would be next year.
I just love it.
Just the clothes fly off.
I mean, they up it even better when he's the Grease Scotsman.
That's even better.
And we learn his shovel's name is Agnes, not to be confused with his tractor, which is
named Duchess.
Yes, the digging begins.
And what a great misdirect that it cuts to kent
brockman and you think he's about to say the hole is digging at the well this is kent brockman with
a special bulletin the lincoln squirrel has been assassinated we'll stay with the story all night
we have to
what's going on it's an old-fashioned hole digging by gar it's been a while
by gar what a great jasper's there to announce whatever the mob is doing next
stage the same way too it's great yeah it's just just like an ace in the hole i feel like there's
multiple old men in the movie who kirk doug what's going on? Like, why is this happening, sir?
It's over there.
Lots more.
There were many more coots back then, I think.
Including, we said this on a different podcast, but the shop owner from Green Acres is one of the lead coots who's using it himself to sell his insurance policy.
Mr. Verderber.
Yes.
His claim to fame is like actually
i was the first tourist here we like acing the whole folks it's great uh but uh there's a cute
gag that they're digging misses a ton of valuable stuff which including an alien spacecraft and the
skeleton and it looks like a kodos and kang style alien too so we can't get mad they made the aliens
real and canon it It's true.
That is a canonical alien right there.
Yeah.
Here I've been complaining about canonical Kang and Kodos for so long,
and yet here's the proof right in my face.
It was always there.
There's a quick little gag with a canary,
which I guess because it dies for natural causes,
I can't play the bird violence jingle then.
It's great how they run screaming out of the hole, and then violence jingle then uh it's great how they run
screaming out of the hole and then when they find out it's okay they run screaming back into it back
in the hole and by the way the police have a song called canary in a coal mine oh wow i think it's
a coincidence and i was also looking this up the reason sting did this episode i'm gonna guess is
because in 10 days his new album would be out the soul cages there you go yeah there you go he
just wants to sell his record man it's just like the the aerosmith same deal they had their ep they
had a greatest hits album coming out if you uh within a month of their episode of flaming mo it
doesn't sound fun i was looking it up and apparently it's a concept album about the death
of his father you just grown to concept album all right yes concept album about the death of his father. You just groaned a concept album. All right.
Yes.
Concept album.
I mean, come on.
Once you're doing the concept album, you've put out too many albums.
Entertainment Weekly says, see, you're dead, dead boring.
Get back to me when your mom croaks.
Come on, Sting.
Get some real material.
Yeah.
Boo-hoo.
But yes, in our final clip here,
we do get to hear a little more Sting,
which this is a great joke here.
It is.
Sting, you look tired.
Maybe you should take a rest.
Not while one of my fans needs me.
Actually, I don't know if I've ever heard
Bart play one of your albums.
Shh.
Marge, he's a good digger.
Thanks, Mom! Dad!
Bart, I've missed you so much!
Man, I was so scared.
Don't worry, son. They're gonna make sure no one ever falls down this well again.
That should do it.
Bart, a very impressed thing, is rescuing him.
But he's just shoved out of the way in like two frames.
I just, just, just, Bart, she's a good digger yes yeah like don't stop him i don't want to dig anymore he's good at it and i know
why he goes by sting uh his real name is gordon ah man and he but he's not from canada right
despite his name being gordon uh no he's from he's from england okay yeah yeah not all gordon's from canada i mean
he's got a great body in this go to uh david lynch's dune and look at look at stinging that
oh my god yes yeah he it seemed like he he had the perfect body a human could have pretty much
yes yeah it's uh it's quite impressive in that speedo there which uh but i like to think that
marge is right that she never knew bart did any uh listen to any of his albums and that he only knows him because of him being
in the crusty music video earlier that bart saw well we all know bart is a big michael jackson fan
number one in his heart loves him so much loves them yeah i you know that gordon thing it clicked
a thing for me i uh this is something i will get to the bottom of later but this episode is one of three episodes
this season that had a production company i did not recognize it's gordon stanfield animation
uh and they apparently did they assisted with character layout and gordon stanfield his company
he is a canadian and it's based in Vancouver.
Interesting. So I was like, yep, okay, another Canadian Gordon right there.
Is that in the credits?
Yes, Gordon Stanfield Animation.
Unfortunately, though, maybe I'm going to have to look up Gordon Stanfield in Vancouver
and just randomly call him because just a bunch of dead websites.
The Gordon Stanfield Animation Company, no real footprint online.
Just call random numbers and say did you draw sting 31 years
ago what did you draw on radio bar they they worked on a lot of other more important stuff
or well they worked more on other stuff but simpsons is probably their biggest credit but
i don't know if uh i don't know if they really worked out well for simpsons because it seems
like they only were used on three episodes in season three and then not again but uh but yeah see uh so when we were talking about gordon's and canada i was like
oh wait a minute yeah gordon in canada did lay out on this thing it's so homer violently shoving
sting out of the way uh probably hurting sting somewhat like so funny but it's also so sweet
how marge like hugs bard and he's just like i was so
scared that triumphant music over a tiny sign that says caution well what a great joke great ending
and i can see i mean season three is so good and i looked at the list of episodes just really
quickly and i was like well there are lots of other episodes that are very good but i can't
decide like which one would be the best one to submit for an emmy it's a shame this didn't win but i mean they won two years in a row but this
is so this one's so good and i understand why they uh they submitted it the one thing i think
it's missing is there's no mr burns that's true not one mr burns but hey i'll take it it's fine
but uh maybe maybe like bart the lover or like um homer alone maybe yeah bart the lover gets a
little more more emotional yeah but uh yeah take that i hate
you uh claymation easter still haven't seen you maybe i saw it when i was a kid i really don't
think so but i want when i pulled up clips of it i was like no i don't remember this at all it's
like it's about pigs trying to steal easter from rabbits and a pig pretends to be the easter bunny
it's it's very complicated and it doesn't feature the california raisins which was my main drawing point for watching the claymation christmas special which is much better and
memorable i i know my final thoughts on this is it's it has also just some great animation all
over the place and this is the the two sides of simpsons which you know by season four they get
more and more away from the family aspect and the, you know, real
childhood kind of memories.
But this is great because it's got you've got Bart turning 10 and it's just observations
about having like a lackluster birthday when you're super excited for your birthday.
And then it also is a long film parody that also is kind of a satire of the media as a
whole.
So it's got small ideas and big ideas.
It's a really really
great episode yeah one big solid story any final thoughts on this one matt like you guys said it's
it's a nice mix of like the heavier like season one and season two family aspects and you know
lampooning other things obviously so uh it's one that stands out as as in season three for me
specifically and like i said i still I still have that long sustained convoy
I'll use every so often. So, uh, for that, it lives in my heart for a long while still. So
yeah, it's, um, you can't fault almost anything in season three. So always glad to go back to
this particular era. Yeah. Well, thanks for joining us once again, Matt, please let us
know where to find you online and what you're up to lately. You can find me online in almost any platform except for like TikTok and Instagram and all the kid ones.
So, yeah, you can find me on YouTube and Twitter at Matt McMuscles.
Just type that in. You'll find me.
And right now, by the time November rolls around, I'm probably going to be playing sonic frontiers and see how bad that that that
that really is uh because unless unless they delay it unless they delay it from between now
in august to november it's possible i should be playing that on my gameplay channel flop house
plays with my friend liam and overall matman muscles i'll probably still be continuing a mix
of what happened videos on on video games and movies and the trouble productions
and probably a mix of uh the mediocre spider-man where i view spider-man games and the worst
fighting game where i see if i can find something that's worse than the playstation's criticom
i don't think i will you know when we were listing other things we've done with you i forgot to
mention the great your spider-man one reminded me me and you uh had like oh we have to talk about no way home right now and we just recorded an hour-long
chat about it right after we saw the movie and that was that was also a ton of fun yeah just any
any spider-man stuff specifically 90s spider-man so when people tell me like oh this has been
happening lately i'm like i can't i'm old i can't i can't keep up with with everything especially
not in comics because everything moves at like a breakneck pace. So yeah, like, you know, I love this sort of thing we're getting into. I hope there's a Spider-Man equivalent of this, but that new X-Men 92 show that's coming to Disney Plus that's just like, no, it's just X-Men from the 90s. Like, I want that for Spider-Man so bad. I want something dumb and simple again, you know?
Christopher Daniel Barnes, I'm sure would be up for it.'s still still at it still he'll be spidey uh sorry last
compliment i want to say on the on the podcast studio matt that your use of shocker over and
over is so good i couldn't even do that half as crazy as christopher still hurt me yeah sorry yeah
i saw my waveforms on there it's like like, oh, I think I got too hard for
shocker there. Leave it to the pros.
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall
for that particular reading of that
line and be like, no, bigger, bigger,
angrier. It's the subiote, man.
And he just goes nuts. What a
national treasure he is.
The way he said, I'll chase you to the
ends of the earth with such intensity.
Yes, yeah. But yes.
No, thank you so much, Matt.
This was so much fun.
Thank you, Matt.
Thanks so much for having me, guys.
Always a pleasure.
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We'll catch you on the flip-flop.
There's a rubber duck on the side, so I'm down and out.
Here we go. Bye-bye.
Sorry, Rosarita. I gotta get to my birthday party.
Farewell, Senor Bart.