Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Skinner's Sense of Snow With Eric Syzska

Episode Date: June 9, 2021

We celebrate the holidays in the summer with returning pal Eric Szyszka from the We Hate Movies podcast! The kids are trapped in the school, Ned and Homer brave a blizzard, and somehow that leads to jokes about camels and ball sacks. We sort through the weirdest Xmas episode ever on this week's podcast, so listen before it's on your permanent record! Support this podcast and get dozens of bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the new official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

attention talking simpsons listeners we have a new podcast miniseries exclusively on patreon right now for five dollar and up subscribers at patreon.com slash talking simpsons you get talk king of the hill season two part one that's right we're returning to king of the hill once again putting out 11 new episodes covering the first half of the show's second season. Again, that is patreon.com slash TalkingSimpsons. Be there or be not right. I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, hoy, everybody, and welcome to Talking Simpsons, where we all die caked in something. I'm one of your hosts, Johnny Cumnotley, Bob Mackie, and this is our chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who is here with me today? Hey, it's Henry Gilbert, and I am but a simple merchant from this town.

And who is our special guest that we have on the line? I'm Eric Siska and uh that's football right and today's episode is skinner's sense of snow enjoy the show but one day we shall die today's episode aired on december 17th 2000 and as always henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh, my God. Merry Christmas 2000, Bobby. C-Lab and The Barack Show both debut secretly as Cartoon Network airs a preview of Adult Swim at 4 in the morning. The Mel Gibson Helen Hunt vehicle, What Women Want, debuts number one at the box office and apparently the razor scooter is the top toy for kids this holiday season top entry for children razor scooter

injuries yes yeah scooter related mishaps i think this was the first christmas where i was old enough to you know i was 18 and just going like well that's what the kids are what it's not tamagotchis i have to believe razor scooters were that big because there were several razor scooter video games the next year or playstation and yeah and what women want a fantastic we hate movies episode i must recommend it i've never seen the film uh the famous mel gibson film but it sounds atrocious and in light of recent events uh very problematic oh yeah yeah that's one of those weird movies where he's like reading minds and stuff it's like uh he's got it's like a sex criminal with magic powers that's right is he given uh psychic powers through electricity

or something i know i totally forgot like um that was one of the funny uh we hate movies episodes i'm not on that one because I lost power that day, and I'm just like, I didn't get to see it. So I haven't revisited it since a few years back, but I remember it being very iffy. I think it's a coconut on the head scenario. And also I think he wears leggings in the movie too, or nylons to really understand women.

I recall that being a trailer gag. Yes, yeah. And so, Sea Lab and the Brack Show, their stealth premiere. So, all of the Adult Swim shows that would launch in the fall of 2001 had stealth premieres at maybe 3 a.m. in December of 2000. Probably for some contractual thing, I'm guessing. Yeah, it's so weird that they were just dumped there and only the pilots and then it would be nine months until adult swim itself premiered but it was uh it took a while but but those i mean but yeah the sea lab 2021 now we're living in the year of sea lab at 2021 aren't we true that will be true and it feels like my house is going to explode so that

makes sense we've all become captain murphy uh i was trying to look so yes there was a what men want movie that there was a female remake of it back in 2019 that uh started uh taraji p henson she gets the ability to read men's minds and Tracy Morgan's in it and directed by Adam Shankman. I was like, wait, wasn't there a gender flip of it? It took until 2019 almost 20 years to do

the gender flip on it. I did not even see that one, but I remember that coming out. There was also like Overboat got a gender flip like way too late as well. Yes, you're late as well yes you're right and oh you're right yeah yeah when that came out i remember that chapelle show did that as a sketch of like a two-minute version of a woman being able to read the minds of every man in the elevator she got into and all of them had the most disgusting thoughts and she instantly like

went insane from having to hear them which i doubt the film goes that far well the uh the what men want movie was also an all-black cast right i believe so okay the only other example of that i can think of is uh who's your caddy is the all-black uh caddyyshack well i mean there was uh jeffrey jones yeah no he was in that right he played a villain long after yeah he's a white sex criminal just want to mention yeah he played a villain in that long after his villainous reveal in real life uh i was i was thinking the honeymoon there was that yeah yeah there's been a few of those but anyway yes that was what was happening this uh holiday season in the year 2000 our last holidays before uh the world changed in another way we're counting down in the simpsons timeline we've got nine months left oh nice you guys could have a big celebration on that

what episode aired that week i guess i should just let you guys build up to that instead of asking i actually already know this i i looked ahead that they don't air an episode until the first week of November tree house of horror. That's when they, that's their first post nine 11 episodes. I had to go to my job. Everyone was like, like,

is it okay to laugh? It was. And then Rudy Giuliani on SNL told us it was. John Stewart signed an affidavit saying it was okay to laugh it was and then rudy giuliani on snl told us it was john stewart signed an affidavit saying it was okay to laugh tough time that's and that's just a preview of the like two years worth of 9-11 uh contextual comedy right here from us on this podcast uh this episode though skinner's sense of snow uh named after but has nothing to do with the 1997 film Smilla's Sense of Snow, based on a novel. So they have fun, similar titles, and that's it. But yeah, also, sorry, welcome to our big guest, Eric Sizga from We Hate Movies.

Hey, guys. Thanks for having me. I'm just really glad we got to do some little 9-11 riffs right before. Before we get into the holiday spirit yeah uh but but eric you know you're you're here uh right before well if folks are on the patreon right before your big live uh streaming event you're you're a part of yeah this is a frequency uh one uh this is a frequency festival that Chris Wade of Chapo and some other people put together.

And it's very exciting. And it's going to be our first time as we ate movies reuniting on stage. It's a live virtual show. Anyone can watch it in the world, but you have to watch it live as it's happening. And we'll be not in those little windows

on like a Zoom type of style stuff. We're actually going gonna be on a stage and there's gonna be people filming it which is it's a whole new ball game in terms of virtual events so i'm very excited about it you guys can hug in person again finally yes i can't remember the last one you were on but it was i think it was in c uh the last season of simpsons we did but that uh we hate movie still still going strong even as the uh you guys are finally being able to start recording in person again yeah yeah i should mention that's june 5th is that festival and you can get tickets at whmpodcast.com and it's on the tour tab and

we're also we announced we're going back on the road in october november hopefully hopefully i always feel like the rug's gonna be pulled out from under us later it's like here's another covid covid 2020 whatever but wow that's that is exciting i'm so happy you guys are uh it does feel like things you know are opening back up again it's it's a nice it's a nice feeling as you know listeners though we're recording is like two months before you hear it so, so don't laugh at us too much if tragedy has struck and it's all been taken away. And this is also weeks before our notoriously successful appearance

on We Hit Movies. Oh, yes, yeah. Yes, yeah. We have a recording. Yeah, hopefully that all comes out well. Hopefully you can hear this episode in the future in June when you're listening to it, because we don't know.

There could be a nuclear holocaust of some kind. Well, I can correctly predict that me and Bob, I'm sure we're very funny on the movies we haven't recorded yet. We're hilarious. We're great. Thank you for coming on that show. It was wonderful. And Eric, how do you feel about Christmas episodes of The Simpsons? You know, yeah um i really like the one where uh well i like some of them i like you know i guess the what was the intro to santa's little helper was that that was a christmas one where homer was dressed as santa right and then there was uh the tree melting was pretty fun and was bone storm around christmas oh yeah just okay

so those those are some solid entries. This one, not so much. And I feel like season 12 still gets me here and there, but I feel like the writing is starting, like the foundation of the house has gotten some termites in it a little bit. I like this one for being a stealth Christmas episode because in recent memory, they've been doing too many Christmas episodes. I think there were, what, three this year?

At least two? I believe in the broadcast season 32, there are three. Well, okay, the season finale of broadcast 31 was a Christmas, and then they've done two Christmases not during the Christmas. Well, one aired in December,

but yeah, it's just it's a lot it's a bit much and I love Skinner and I think he's very in character in this episode and there's a lot of very great Skinner stuff in this episode so I'm a big fan of this episode I think this has some funny stuff in it but and I like it more than the I think the Christmas one before this or the I definitely like this more than the Richard Gere Christmas one after this uh she of little faith uh but and I think you know christmas is so important to the simpsons but yeah in i'd say the last couple decades i think they have leaned on it so much to be like well how do we get some extra emotion out of this well what if it was christmas during this scene like the

the best one they did of all the of the three recent christmases they did the best one was the one about filming a hallmark christmas movie in the summertime in springfield i that that at least is a comedic concept i enjoy and you know nick weiger was on our show some months ago he was not a fan of the chew through my ball sack joke watching it this time i laughed i have to say it's a lowbrow joke but hearing skinner say chew through my ball sack gotta laugh out of me yeah i i do like that and i do like the skinner stuff i i'm a skinner fan but uh you know the the continuity gets lost on me because i'm like wait what because there's references and flashbacks to his vietnam past but i guess the armin tanzarian

thing that doesn't count anymore well armin also was in vietnam so while the armin tanzarian thing that doesn't count anymore well armin also was in vietnam so while the armin tanzarian episode doesn't not say he was a prisoner of war it's implied the real the real skinner definitely was a prisoner of war but in other episodes so was armin tanzarian but that doesn't really fit in the armin tanzzerian timeline put in the episode that he was a prisoner for that long. I mean, already the time, even in the year 2000, the timeline does not make sense because it said that Skinner is 40. He would have been born in 1960. If he was in Vietnam, he'd be a child soldier. It already doesn't make sense.

He could be convincingly in 1990, a 40-year-old Vietnam vet. It doesn't make sense in 2000. In 2021, he can't even be a gulf war vet really are they ever gonna retcon that because like they do stuff right now correct me if i'm wrong you guys have been keeping up with the simpsons way more than i have they started to do stuff where it's like marge and homer are now like millennials or gen x or something they update it right yeah controversially again this year they did and uh the there it was two episodes back to back one of them being the 700th episode which was also a christmas episode

uh and in that one it's like oh this was six years ago and so when they just say they don't say a year then but when they say six years ago then they're like well six years from ago from now somebody could ride in an uber so homer and marge ride in an Uber, even though like Lisa's one years old. And by the time people listen to this, I will be 39, which is Homer's age, which means Homer was born in 1982 and graduated high school in either 2000 or 2001. Yes. So it's frightening. And voiced by a man in his 60s. Yeah.

I don't I'm not going gonna like being older than homer in the near future it's not fun if uh no i uh but this one it's one of the last times i think they do a real vietnam it feels retro in season 12 to be like oh and you know what skinner was in vietnam like i i think you've said it before about burns but i do think the scully years have less of a handle on skinner in a similar way like because david merkin skinner is this like brutal authoritarian who you know uh outlaws uh free thought with a free thought alarm and the colors yeah and uh and then meanwhile bill and josh's skinner is you know this pitiful creature you're just like what a loser i i can't even be that threatened by him sending me to detention he's he what a loser i i can't even be that threatened by

him sending me to detention he's he's just so sad he can't even buy a new pair of underwear but i think uh scully wasn't too into either of those versions and he's more of just like sometimes he's a loser if a joke needs it but he's also less aware of his loserdom too like like in this episode and yeah this episode is written by canadian tim long about his snowy childhoods uh trapped in blizzard yeah apparently uh this is all about him in his childhood when every school was closed but his so he ended up being snowed in at the school and for uh whatever i think he said legal reasons they could not leave the premises so the dads were bringing out food to the kids who were snowed in.

Yeah, it's it's not a rough. It's also funny to hear that he first brought it up in his like job interview with Scully. And he's like, oh, what's the you know, the best Simpsons episodes? Many of them are plumbed from the real life histories of the writers. And so I think Scully was like, oh, hey oh hey well tell me a thing about your youth we've used every childhood story of ours so let's use yours uh and i also like on the commentary that matt selman brings up that like he's like oh hey hey tim long who pitched this uh opening sketch to you it was me it was me it's all about hollywood writers who are men who are angry that

their wives dragged them to something they didn't like yes that's what i read in this uh in this joke uh yeah i know yeah by the way the whole like snowed in thing it read this episode kind of resonates with me because i grew up in the catskill mountains and i used to be so dependent on the local radio stations trying to hear if school was closed or not and there were instances where mine wasn't and others were were closed i never got trapped there thankfully but uh this this this episode i when i started to re-watch it today for this i was like i remember this episode is like i'm i have it like memorized in my head for some reason i wonder you know i wonder now with this after this year of homeschooling if uh parents are going to be more

ready to just say like you're not going to school it's slightly snowing i'm not i'm not going to drive you there and it's already been established that you can learn at home so let's just do that yeah uh but yes bob you're right this opening is very much the spirit of a hollywood husband mad he has to do anything on his weekend other than watch football this is better than a movie how yes yes there's so much of that energy this season of just angry husbands and boyfriends being sent to things that are not made specifically for them i have never seen cirque du soleil oh i have i i've seen i've seen it i've only once the actually the one that dave merkin says he was at the debut of uh in vegas the love the beatles love i didn't know love my god i actually went to the beatles love experience uh like last year we were just

uh me and my wife happened to be in vegas and i i really detest uh las vegas i just i just did not get the vibe i thought it was just all bad. It's just like a mall as a city. But the show was pretty cool because we had some edibles. Oh, that's perfect. Well, and it's legal there. So you're not breaking any laws. It is legal there. Yeah, we went to the dispensary.

We went to Love. And once they start putting the tarps over you and all the music's kicking and it's just like, I'm not even a big Beatles guy, but I understand. I see the artistry there of how they're dancing around and, you know, doing their acrobatics. Yeah, I really enjoyed love, especially for like all the, you know, Beatles jokes in there. And it's also just nice to hear like, hey, Beatles music is play. This is nice. These are my songs but uh as far as performances i don't remember anything too spectacular except for like there's a big spinning wheel like kind of centrifuge thing and a guy stands on top of it and he like keeps balance as it flies in the air like a clock like that was

pretty impressive but but yeah the the general vibe of Cirque du Soleil is that it is you know like horny French Canadians bending around and being both like sexual and when like childlike whimsy mixed with like we have perfect bodies and we can like shove our genitals towards each other all the time that's good I also have like the equation what's taken out of the equation is the animal abuse yes that's taken out of the circus equation which makes it more palatable for me oh yeah you don't you can just watch you know people who are good at moving things you know moving their own bodies not not elephants in pain yeah i but imagine imagine if those great you know acrobatic guys would would torture animals think about the ways they could do it you know there's so

there's so much more pliable flexible well now they can do it you know there's so there's so much more pliable flexible well now they can do it as a hobby and not their job yeah they can go home and torture animals uh i i looked at yeah for a time in vegas uh circus la just took over vegas you know it started with one show and then basically everything on the strip each casino had to have their own circusque du Soleil performance. And so, like, you know, it started with, I forget which one was the first one, but then there was like, oh, the water one. And then there was Love, the Beatles one. And then Zoo Manatee, the 18 plus one for sexy times and fluid sexuality, all that.

I went to the wrong one yeah you i will say the reason i've never gone to zoomanity was because it's like oh but it's also like sexual humor and i'm like i do not want to watch french canadians do sexy jokes of like hey my boobs just popped out funny right you could interrupt the performance by screaming oh the, the Zumanity. And everyone would love you. Does anyone in the audience remember Ligio Suit Larry? Three hands go up. But there's no more tickets on sale at the time of this recording. So they haven't opened back up any of them.

I know Vegas is reopened to a degree in mid-April when we're recording this. But I would think Cirque du Soleil will be back soon enough. But I guess in the late 90s, by 2000, I looked it up, the first show had opened in Vegas, but it hadn't fully taken over Vegas. So it was more of a touring thing. I think they do still tour, but their real money is Vegas. That's where they make literally a billion dollars. But I guess before we get to that, though,

I do want to talk about NFL Fox Sunday or Fox NFL Sunday. That's the word. I wasn't quite sure. I thought it was a SportsCenter parody, but it's not. Well, it's so very – I think it is definitely the Fox Sunday one because it's the spirit of James Brown, not either of the James Browns you're thinking of but the the the host of Fox NFL Sunday Chris Collinsworth and Terry Bradshaw

when I saw the bald guy in the plaid shirt I'm like that's Terry Bradshaw I I think it was mainly mocking of of Fox NFL Sunday which if hey if you want to hear some of their patented zingers, I've got some queued up right here from 1998. It took us a while, but we finally got back at you Steelers for that immaculate reception. What? We? What? We? You got a mouse in your pocket? What are you talking about? That's right. Conspiracy theory. That's right. You backdoored in there on that one off the head, you know. Partner, do you realize that that was drawn up?

That was drawn up and deliberately. You know what? You weren't even involved in that. Why do you care that that was drawn up? That was drawn up and deliberately. You know what? You weren't even involved in that. Why do you care? You know what? I know we pushed the edge a little bit, but what are you saying, Howie, with a mouse in his pocket? Even he's like, what does mouse in your pocket mean?

What are you saying there, Terry Bradshaw? And hey, if you know what the immaculate reception is in the history of the Steelers, you are too much of a jock to listen to this show. All right. But please stay subscribed to the Patreon. Please. Yes. Yeah. But yes, in this case, Homer is loving the comedy. Welcome back to Pigskin Preview.

Denver, Green Bay, who do you like? That's football, right? Well, I'm going to take the Broncos in this game because the Packers will be blinded by Jerry's tie. Tremendous. I'm more worried about Al's jacket. How many stations can you get on that thing? All right, listen. I am sick of your jokes about the wardrobe.

You people can dress yourselves. Well, folks, he's got a point. With all our unscripted horseplay, we sometimes don't think about... Lenny, are you watching this? Yeah, they really hurt that guy's feelings. I know. Ready for the circus, Homer? Circus?

The Cirque de Purée. We've had tickets since September. But I want to watch Brett Favre. Come on, Homer. They're only in town for eight months. Then they're gone. Oh, I missed one of Jerry Zinger's. I'll never catch up.

We've had a lot of pennants so far in the past couple of years, and now it's extended to the point where Homer has a pennant caddy next to him. We can change out pennants as well. So he has a TV sports pennant and then a french circus not only like it'd be funny enough if it said circus but that he has one for french circus i love that like uh and but yeah bob this is like this is mike scully saying to his daughters like don't make me miss football i want to watch football okay it's also a daughters drag you to things story yes yeah the joke is that no man cares

that on watch they probably the no man watching nfl gives a crap about a person's feeling being hurt but i love that lenny cares that much like yeah they've really hurt that guy's feelings lenny lenny's reaction saves that whole segment for me yeah i mean it's a very broad gay stereotype which is like you guys can dress yourselves Lenny's been injured a lot lately, so I think he's just becoming more sensitive all around. He's gone through so much pain and injury. He has so much more empathy for the pain of others. And then Homer calls Lenny to let him know

that they hurt a guy's feelings and they feel bad for him. The Simpsons will be right back. So, Homer, what do you do for a living? I work for a vicious evil skinflint who exposes me to nuclear radiation 40 hours a week. Well, I worked for Jerry Jones. I can only imagine your pain. Howie, you mind if I say hello to my friends and family? I can't see the harm.

Hi, Mom, Lise, Maggie, and a special hello to my good friend, I.P. Daly. Why, you little... Go for it, man. Man, Homer, I really envy that hairline of yours. How do you keep from losing those top two hairs? Superglue. Enough of this garbage. I want football.

Cowabunga, Barton Homer. You're on my my turf now So plant your butts on the couch Cause it's the NFL on Fox Part Go When you really care about someone You shout it from the mountaintops So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level To tell our clients that we really care about you

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at patreon.com slash Talking Simpsons today to see all of it! But yeah, so they're're gonna head off to the french canadian cirque du purée and uh you know i will say of the stuff i saw in vegas i much preferred blue man group and evil dead musical like if uh i had more fun the blue man group is more like uh i don't know that the whimsy of it is just so much it's just so much like forced whimsy upon you of like don't you feel like i blue man group is very much more like the the point is their faces do not move they are interchangeable just blue dots and they do like weird stuff like oh look at science experiment stuff like they're throwing

streamers at you i it lacks the whimsy it has the more american like utilitarianness of it i like that i'm resentful that they bought the old nickelodeon studios in florida to use as storage oh yes yeah they they did remove the nickelodeon hey you know viacom didn't want it anymore that's i saw the blue man group one time in 2002 and it was part of like a festival and they were like the the first openers at like 3 p.m leading up to one of the headliners was david bowie so it was a it was a good day for that but i thought the blue man group was was pretty good with uh their on stage antics the the love i didn't get any of the performers interacting with the crowd thing they they

complain about it on the commentary like it happens to the writers of the show when they've gone to it. But I never like when that happens in any events. I think I could get behind like if it's part of the show and there's some genitals floating around. I think I can handle it. Yeah, I think. Well, I bet, you know, Matt Groening's probably got like front row seats. So if if they're also bothering the people who are rich enough to buy a front row seat i don't feel as bad and i have to say

the animators are always the unsung heroes on these shows and especially with this episode because oh my gosh director lance kramer make uh make a cirque du soleil parody make a bunch of people turn into a living elephant make a bunch of people turn into a living elephant. Make a bunch of people turn into a kite. Capture the magic, but in a funny way. Yeah. And he does a great job. Yeah, you're right. They have to do, like, every character design of a Cirque du Soleil character is so, like, detail heavy about these specifics of, like, well, it's the one who's dressed like an ostrich. Or it's the one with, like, a big pole out of their back and a bird's floating on

the end of it like yeah they they have to so much design for just an opening gag and then have to like the physicality of acting out a kite of a human kite that flies away and into a tree later oh man that was a great visual gag seeing them all like fall apart into the tree. And, you know, Canadians way in here, but I think some of this comedy here is based on Tim Long, who is from Ontario, which is British Canada, mocking French Canadians, which is Cirque du Soleil. Yeah, the Québécois. I like how that guy even says, like, wait in French Canadian as well.

But, yes, the circus wait in French-Canadian as well. Attendez, attendez. But yes, the circus begins in our next clip. Stop, wait, wait, attendez. I cannot get the lid off my jar of rainbows. Who will help me? You, sir. But I cannot help you. I am just a local merchant from this town just smash it open

oh you can do it if your heart is pure or pure oh that wink my child of rainbows it's great the the proud of itself wink i think especially the way homer gets mad that is like bored writer in the audience who's just like i know how this is gonna go speed up these sketches i want this to be over with they always pick the guy with the wires i love that uh marge being so jealous they'd never pick her that's so great and yeah the the the obviousness of the local merchant and when the storm comes doesn't like home even though homer doesn't want to be there and wants it to be over he's like i paid full price for this freak

show you're right he comes out the other side already of just like uh hey no don't end this early even if he hates it he paid for it uh yeah he seems so unpredictable in this episode i don't know if that's a more of a newer trend in season 12 or whatever but like he like just takes the opposite side to anything i think later what explains is the carbon monoxide poisoning but at this point no i'm not really sure yeah no the we've homer's an ancillary character to an episode he has even wilder mood swings to have a more extreme joke like when we talked about the the lisa the tree hugger one homer is insane in that one like he does the hand knife thing from aliens because he's just bored that he's not in the main plot of the episode i really do like lots of shows are doing their

parodies at this time because all every they must have toured la and every hollywood guy went to it and then wrote a sitcom sketch about it but i really like the capturing of marge seeing all this like dumb looking whimsical crap in front of her and then meanwhile homer has a large bulge uh on a clown shaking in his face and i was like these are the two extremes of cirque de soleil i agree uh oh and then they have a really dirty joke of Marge being inspired by the positions the women are getting in. I love that. It just shows the extent of Marge's imagination where it's like, I could just use all those for cleaning in more exotic ways.

But it's a good turn. You know, they've done that joke like so many times of Homer, like, you know, two wives can be pretty good. And it's chop, chop, dig, dig. But finally Marge gets to fake being horny for the setup a little snm scrubbing and mopping uh and this is where there is a hidden deleted scene on the dvd in this episode so when the storm blows in the first person uh from the performers blown into the audience lands on comic book guy and he ruins his super-sized

creme brulee so i can see why they cut that joke it's you know it's kind of funny but uh then they cut to mel saying he feels it in his bone yeah the storm just blows everything away homer he wants to be nourishing the child within but there's no no time for it. Then everybody's being blown away. They're blown into a tree as a kind of human people. And then we hear that a storm has taken over the town and it'll turn into a nor'eastern meets a south eastern and then into the sleet and then snow and then thaw in the summer. Like it's only a year.

Hard to peg what time of year this episode starts in, isn't it? You wouldn't think this episode begins in December, but also that's his Walter Brandon impersonation, right? That's who he's doing. Or just like a guy from Maine talking about the weather. Ah, yeah, yeah. Like Herman Munster. Sure.

Like that guy, yeah. I think he was only from Maine and Pet Sematary. That's right but what if herman munster did talk with a heavy maine accent on top of doing a frankenstein voice that'd be funny uh also there's another deleted scene here i think a better joke so the joke in the episode is that mccallister is tied to a tree but not by himself by teenage pirates in the cut joke it's captain mccallister he's tied to his own drive-thru at his frying dutchman oh okay and then he's wall tied there he's saying like hey come in it's it's great food and then somebody steals his vespo while he's tied

up they actually brought back the uh his restaurant which is uh after that infomercial he was on for the sea shanties that was his true debut yeah yeah i i miss the i miss him being a restaurateur they they brought it back for when he teams up uh in the food review episode with the other right guys to kill homer but pretty much they they leave that alone and he's just he's popeye like that's who he is most of the time and then we have the excitement of waiting for your school to be closed and I'm sure Eric can reflect upon this as well but it was I mean it for me in the in the early 90s through the late 90s it was waiting by the radio but also having the joy of having an overprotective mother who also gave you no boundaries if the weather was bad she would say you're not going to school because in in her in her defense she did

not trust a bus driver to keep me safe she doesn't know this person oh yeah your mother was right yeah i my my parents wanted me out of the house ah that's they wanted me out of the house immediately and my my school well first of all it was my high it was for my high school which was really far away it was like an hour or maybe more on the bus because you're making stops and it was from my high school, which was really far away. It was like an hour or maybe more on the bus because you're making stops. And it was from 7th through 12th grade all in one building. So it felt like going to a penal colony. And it was utterly hell. And I was always looking for ways to get out of it.

And my mother knew that. So as much as she could could she would force me to go oh man i i couldn't imagine it was bad enough doing middle school and high school but to have it all be the same building for the the entirety like that that sounds awful uh yeah it's it's it's so jarring to get it like i just graduated sixth grade and then there's a guy walking by, you know, what, 1920s. Some of these kids are failures, maybe 25. I don't know. It was just very weird. Opening and closing a switchblade. Yeah. We had some Jimbo's and some.

The Kearney's definitely. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I think there were, I think I was going to school with people who were, their parents were also in the school well i you know i grew up one year i didn't go to school for snow that's when i lived in in arkansas which is close it's the south but it's closer to the midwest so you could get big snow storms 30 years ago now they just like it didn't get it as bad as texas but like last year uh arkansas or early this year arkansas got a shitload of snow like they were buried in it but uh so that was the only time i ever got snow days after that and when i lived in florida growing up we never got snow days occasionally a couple hurricane days but i will say the snow days in arkansas they didn't pay off because they

made us like do saturday school like four times which i i just think i got back on that of like who cares like what oh kids a sit an eight-year-old didn't get four days of second grade who gives a shit you know yeah i think there was a time when maybe one or two winters where we the school used too many snow days so they started taking away from like spring break or summer or something. Cruel, cruel. It's just, well, that is how it, again, it's like prison. It's like you didn't do your time.

It's not learning things that you didn't do every day you're supposed to. Yeah, I didn't learn a goddamn thing. The school of hard knocks, baby. That's where we learn. I really love the writing on this radio joke, though. It's very, very clever. Yes, yeah. Here, I got the whole clip here.

The following schools are closed today. Shelbyville, Ogdenville, Ogdenville Tech, and Springfield Elementary. My Dear Watson Detective School. No. And lastly, Springfield Elementary School. Yay! Is open. No.

And it's open season on savings at springfield menswear which is closed oh stop your father and i don't get the day off lindy says we've got the day off i love homie's little childish yippee that's great yeah the i will say uh that we just four months ago did bart gets an f and i am thinking about there's several jokes that are the same joke here but did did homer go to springfield elementary my dear watson detective school when he opened his detective agency until marge laughed at his hat in season seven you know if he didn't then that's why it failed really he should have learned more at that detective school.

I would bet, though, yeah, he probably went to that detective school and they bought him that hat as part of the Ike year onboarding and then he thought he was a detective. But yeah, in Bart Gets an F, same gags about waiting for the call of your place being closed. Same gags of Bart being sad and seeing a long pan of jokes of springfieldians right no stuff no in that case the school was closed but bart wasn't able to enjoy it because he had to study and it also had a right your name in the snow joke in that but this was a more crass version of a of a write your name in snow joke this is just a pretty extreme joke for

them to do i i forgot that uh oh boy i i really there's some dirty jokes in this one that i do like just because of how uh artfully they're done uh not only does it look like he's pissing in the snow he asks lou to shake seemingly his penis shake the drops out of his penis yeah i love how agreeable like when you take it as actually him peeing how agreeable lou is like okay i'm just gonna he's gonna grab his penis one-handed and just shake it free shake the last drops out for it and uh the final line is like seems like a waste of coffee though yeah it's just them admitting this was just a big setup for why he's doing this makes no sense other than to mislead you into thinking he's piss pissing and we know from uh bill oakley the only reason we could have that pissing noise is because he

wasn't actually pissing oh right because they wanted pissing noises for homer uh peeing in the new york episode but they weren't allowed to have pissing noises right that was that was the too far line for the censors oh god like also the the sad status it makes even less sense which makes it even better wigum has the satisfaction of urinating as he's pouring out coffee like oh yeah like he's oh it got the the other jokes that pans across are okay but the piss is the the fake piss is the best when when i pour out coffee you know if i don't finish the pot when i make it in the morning in the afternoon or evening if i'm pouring out the coffee, it's always just like, oh, yeah. I've been holding it in that pot all day long.

You shake your hips some while you do it, too. Like, yeah, that feels good. Also, apparently Homer was cursed by God at some point that his angels only turn into snow devils. That was a pretty funny bit there. And, yeah, we hear a Bing Crosby ass let it snow. cursed by god at some point that his angels only turn into snow devils so that's pretty fun pretty funny bit there and uh yeah we hear a bing crosby s let it snow i don't think it's the real version maybe it is but they there's some expensive song usage in this episode that i'm pretty shocked at this feels like a cover i did not investigate though i guess you know they spent it they spent it all really on the uh the bad company full music rights to the original.

No, this has a lot of callbacks to Old Simpsons. There's Mr. Plow. There's the underachiever and proud of it. There was the fast food restaurant that was in the cut scene. Another callback to Old Simpsons is how unions are powerful. Yes. And get away with everything. I got to give it to that teacher's union, man.

I wish if I was part of a union that they use their power to be like oh uh you know what we have a meeting we have to do sorry and also yes uh speaking of more sports skinner also references cal ripken's uh record streak playing games and uh that had been set in late 1998 at 632 games so uh it was in the news at the time i've done that many podcasts without quitting yeah uh you you don't get to take all the credit calories we all work hard but yeah so the six minute mark this episode in the next clip becomes a christmas episode oh yeah i can't, spell your name. Hey, Lou, could you shake out the last few drops for me?

Yeah, no problem, Chief. Seems like a waste of coffee, though. Children, I'm proud of you. Most of our students didn't bother to show up on this last day before Christmas break, but you've kept intact my Cal Ripken-like streak of school openage. Hey, where are the teachers? Eh, their union is called an emergency caucus. Caucus, caucus, caucus!

Caucus, caucus, caucus! But we'll have the last laugh on those Johnny Comnopleys. We're gonna watch my favorite movie about a grinchy little character who tries to steal Christmas. Oh, yeah! Grinchy little character who tries to steal Christmas. What's that, Blitzen? Why, yes, it is Christmassy. I'm happy.

I had to get in that I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. I love the title of that movie, christmas that almost wasn't but then was which could be the name of every single christmas movie just rename them all to that they've done so many great parodies of christmas specials up to this point you know starting from the beginning with the happy little elves or also the multiple crusty holiday specials but this is the one they had not touched on before the very specificness of like a 1930s bad movie like a variety type film yeah it's not a direct parody of anything that i can think of but it just reminds me of all of the really bad christmas

movies that i'm only aware of through like mystery science theater it's it feels like a 30s version of santa claus conquers the martians or something but it does feel like a 1930s movie in that there is a song in it for no reason yeah yeah oh god and all the all like the the 800 versions it felt like there were of like oh it's the babes in toyland like there was i felt like every major studio did a babes in toyland and then they had to do a short cartoon of it which we had to watch in like the worst versions of looney tunes blocks of like oh boy it's their 1938 babes in toyland starring no looney tune at all and what's also funny about this movie is there it's the christmas hobgoblins i guess instead of elves or grinches yeah i guess those are the grinchy characters that he's talking about. The kids are so excited about the Grinch, and this was the holiday of the Jim Carrey Grinch, too, right?

That's right, yes. Oh, wow. I'm happy you brought that up, Bob, because I just learned some shocking news. What, that's a classic now and people love it? No, no, but so you may recall, me and you uh i don't know eric if you've ever ridden it at argon to universal hollywood but universal hollywood uh you do the tram tour they take you through all these places including a incredibly like sun bleached and destroyed whoville set covered in bird shit yes it's gone thank god They tore it down during the COVID stuff.

And now that it's reopened, Universal Hollywood, the first people to ride those rides are like, oh, the Whoville's gone. It's dead now. It's a parking lot. It's nothing. So I might have even said this on an earlier episode of your guy's show. But I've been to, I think, like Great Escape and Six Flags, or maybe that was the same place. I've been to like a theme park once or twice,

and that's just like a roller coaster place. I've never been to any Disney or Universal or any of the fancy ones. Maybe one day I'll get inappropriately drunk at one. You know, hey, you guys hate the movies. You can ride to the movies at Universal Studios. I mean, you can drink at Disneyland now. By the time you go, Eric, there could be a dispensary there. Oh, that'd be wonderful.

Goofy's Goofballs. I bet Universal will have a dispensary first. I bet you they'll. But yeah, I was so sad to hear that Whoville. I loved seeing that hideous Whoville on that tram ride. And now no more. The Whoville's gone. Is the Viva Rock Vegas set still alive?

That I don't know about. And I think the plane from the Spielberg movie with Tom Cruise. War of the Worlds? War of the Worlds. Cast away. Invasion USA. Yeah, the War of the Worlds plane is, I think that is still there, and we still have to drive through.

Iconic, probably the least watched Tom Cruise movie. The War of the Worlds plane is, I think that is still there. And we still have to drive through. Wow, iconic. Probably the least watched Tom Cruise movie. It is impressive to see a completely destroyed plane just sitting around. Like, oh, that's cool. But it's more impressive than when they take you like, hey, everybody, we all know it. 10 Wisteria Lane from Desperate Housewives, remember? They still said that on our last tour, what, three years ago. This whole thing, it reminds me a bit of santa claus conquers the martians so that was like a 60s film not not 30s like this one uh and also bobby yeah you you're used to it johnny come not lees that uh feels dirtier than it did in the first time i heard it i'm like oh i get this

now i get jokes also this song this uh i'll play the clip but that reminds me so many times of when i was uh worked in a video store i would put on marx brothers movies oh yeah definitely and and i love marx brothers movies but uh for the three main marx brothers and then each movie like in coconuts it's like okay now it's 10 minutes of a duet between people there'd be an attractive male lead an attractive female lead and then the marks brothers having fun around them right yes yeah yeah which i mean hey i'd rather that than having uh i think it's in horse feathers that groucho actually like has a real love interest and he feels guilty about lying to her or something

i'm like that's not groucho to me. He should lie to everyone and steal their money. The classic mirth making, they reference one singer specifically for this. And it's an early film singer named Nelson Eddy. And I looked up one of his songs. It is quite similar here. Let's give a listen to old Nelson Eddy. Both sides. Sorry, your grandma got down to that. know I love you. It is very clear you can't hear. Yeah, there you go. Both sides. Your grandma got down to that.

It is, and how inane the lyrics are, and it's like, I am me and you are you, or whatever. They're just so inane and bad. It's good. And when you're a kid, that singing can sound like it lasts two hours. But yes, the kids find out they are not free of this

movie even when the film burns i will always be true spend my days pitching to you oh he's been singing for two hours. This couldn't have less to do with Christmas. And I think that's a stagehand. And I love you too. I am you and you are you. Oh, you and me together you can see. Ha ha! This time get a DVD. This is a DVD.

Well, you won't get to see Santa's big sing-off, but seeing as we're close to the usual dismissal time... Two, one... There it is. Take off and have a frank and productive holiday. Yay! Oh, dear God! Principal Skinner!

We're snowed in. We're dropped in the school. We're going to miss Christmas. I fixed the DVD. Now, we heard that thing shatter, so he's got to back up. Yeah. I love that it's like clearly a film projector and then it's on fire and it spits out a dvd you even hear the steps on you even hear the broken film like thwapping against

the reel after it breaks it's a great uh screw you joke just like yeah it's a dvd that's uh man that it's i want a dvd player that looks like an old film projector that projects it oh and so that just the the thing like this is a dvd like makes no sense it looked like a film projector the whole time there's no reason it would be on a dvd instead of an old film strip like ah it's just beautiful i love it it's also 2000 you said like that's also like dvd is like the new hot thing yeah yeah they actually just two episodes earlier they did a joke about like ah miller saying uh weekday dad wanted a dvd player right yeah and we're uh one season away from shrek being one of the best-selling dvds of all time that's right yeah is it still like oh go ahead you guys were talking about building up to like 9-11 and that's when the world changes. I think Shrek kind of trumps 9-11 in terms of world changing event.

It definitely sent ripples through the animation industry. Oh, yeah. I just don't know how we're still, we're still Shrek people. There's people loving Shrek out there. It's only bigger than ever with the 20th anniversary. Even though there's no like Shrek 5 still to be made. It hasn't happened yet i mean puss in boots still keeps going so if shrek comes back mike myers will

resurrect it to sell uh like blue chew or something like that if wayne and garth are coming back for uber eats or doordash uh shrek has to come back to debase himself even further well absolutely the beauty of shrek is he doesn't look old in his i give it shrek showed up he doesn't look old in a wig i don't know mike myers looks like a cgi monster to me you should just do it live action at this point have a few you know uh uh canadian donuts is that a thing and uh bulk up uh have you seen pictures of the the live action the man who dressed as shrek for the uh shrek musical that oh i should look that up now that poor that poor man he was he worked hard i feel bad i just i only saw like uh like second clips of the of that and like some photos and boy is it

disturbing yeah oh whoa yeah i know right you can see why the shrek musical didn't last on on broadway uh though even though the guy doing farquaad does it uh does it dorf style the whole time walking on his knees man the guy playing donkey is just wearing donkey ears and his job is done it's just like uh this is way off topic but i saw the uh this disney channel or sorry disney plus had their little mermaid like concert or whatever or quote unquote live action littleermaid it wasn't that yeah it wasn't that at all but uh I forget who it was I think it was Shaggy playing Sebastian and he just like wore a red shirt he did yes yeah that was basically like yeah I was gonna wear claws but that's stupid uh at least John Stamos like put on a chef outfit to do the song about how much he loves killing fish and the the young lady who was

ariel she had to like fly in the air and stuff and queen latifah tried okay again way off topic but that was the biggest ripoff in that they would play full length clips of the movie and then when there would be a song in the movie they would cut to their concert in which the song was performed what a bait and switch uh i mean you know if you're queen latifah you don't want to learn like you learn one song you're not going to learn every line ursula has you know this is why we need to go back to those songs like the the clip you played like you and me and i you know yeah simple and you know as plotting goes i like that they the reason they are surprised closed in is because they were watching a mind numbing movie while all the blinds were down yeah it's good it's it's good plotting yeah but yeah so

we come back for the second uh for the first commercial into the second act uh we get a warning that by albinos are virtually invisible in the snowstorm i really love the exchange of him saying like a class three killstorm i don't like the sound of that class three regular killstorm fine just you know close the shutters and uh and yes here's another simpsons predicted in moment i don't know if you guys knew this i i wrote it down but uh i don't want to steal your fire henry well uh this is only for the gamers out there who've heard of the video game rocket league which uh is still pretty popular it's fun yeah which is basically the video game is you play soccer with cars that bounce the ball around

and so yeah the earliest i could find was somebody in 2016 taking the scene of mr burns doing that with all the plows he purchased and saying, Simpsons predicted Rocket League. Wow. That's another for the Simpsons predicted it kind of thing. Though this lacks all the power-ups and rockets involved in Rocket League. So I'd say it's hardly exact, this prediction. That'll get you a $15 BuzzFeed list. Oh, yes, if you're lucky.

Let's just say a wizard did it. I don't know if Buzzfeed is still i mean they must publish things but i feel like most of the people i knew who worked there like stopped working there a long time i don't think listicles exist anymore yeah well that's what videos are for you know yeah i uh but yes homer also being very drunk and uninterested i i do feel like there's a missing beat here where Homer is told he has to do it. Or like there should be. And it's not in the deleted scenes that are on the DVD. But like I feel like Ned should come into the house like, come on, we got to go save our kids or something.

I guess the next time we see Homer, he's already sawed part of Ned's roof off of his house. And they're in the car. In his car. In his G.O.? Yeah, it is the G.O. Yeah, his little red geo just sawing part of your neighbor's roof off and attaching it to his car his car as a plow it's i mean it's getting a little much simpsons i no longer believe that this is a real world uh i like homer says i don't know

internet that's good but uh uh but then we get get a joke that a future guest of our podcast said is his favorite joke in Simpsons history. Or one of his favorites. It seems the phone lines are down, so I'm afraid we're stuck here for the duration. But it's my kid's birthday. I'm doing a puzzle with Grandmama, and she'll finish without me. Yes, yes, yes. We all had plans. Except for me, ironically. I'm right where I want to be., and she'll finish without me. Yes, yes, yes. We all had plans. Except for me, ironically. I'm right where I want to be.

I ain't gonna drill through the snow. I'm part Eskimo. I don't care if you're Christy Yamaguchi. No one leaves the building. This stinks. We'll miss the Itchy and Scratchy where they finally kiss. I don't care if they're kissing Christy Yamaguchi. You're not going home. That's so unfair. Oh, just close. Skinner's a real cringe. Well, I'm all for rescuing the kids,

but I wish you hadn't sawed off my roof. My car, your roof. It's only fair. But it's my car. Well, yeah. Hey, whatever happened to that plow from your old snowplow business? I never had a snowplow business. Sure you did, Mr. Hey, whatever happened to that plow from your old snow plow business? I never had a snow plow business.

Sure you did, Mr. Plow. You're wearing the jacket right now. I think I know my own life, Ned. Oh, Mr. Plow, that's my name. That game again is Mr. Plow. Wow. But, well, first off, the Christy Yamaguchi line, that's what a future guest of ours says is one of his favorites.

They dissected it well. You'll hear it in the future. First off, the Christy Yamaguchi line, that's what a future guest of ours says is one of his favorites. They dissected it well. You'll hear it in the future. But I love Skinner being very proud of himself with his topical humor, but then carrying it forward to the point where it doesn't make sense anymore. Yes. Well, I guess if you don't know, Christy Yamaguchi was a gold medalist in 1992, the year everybody was talking about, you knowanya harding and nancy kerrigan uh it was nancy kerrigan got the bronze and it was christy yamaguchi who for america that's right won the gold uh but uh that so her being an ice skater i guess is like oh well you couldn't get even christy yamaguchi couldn't get through all of this snow with her ice skating ability but then to just

have the extra turn of like he just calls it back to there's she has there's nothing about kissing her that is is topical at all uh and where did the mr plow plow go i assume homer sold it after godmethal the snow at the end of that episode ah well no i i double check this uh it was kumatsu motors was already uh calling him for a delinquent account and of course homer is distracted by a call from the repo depot and they take it while he's gone so i'd say ned actually is misremembering this and thinking homer lost i failed you as a host i'm sorry i had to double check it i i didn't remember perfectly there but but they should be calling the plow king there's no reason barney doesn't have the plow king actually yeah the last time it snowed in an episode homer speeds past barney and his plow king uh plow so that's still around call

barney ned i love i love that the alternate world there there that uh i guess not alternate but like barney having a job that's kind of interesting and they've done so many episodes of this show i don't know maybe it's time to go back to the plow king and show how he makes a sweet nest egg over winter that he could get drunk all summer off of at this point in the show barney is sober so he's a more efficient plow king at this point yeah yeah he must be doing even better now and if you're wondering what's going on with homer's gloves on the commentary they point out there was a scene in which he didn't have gloves so he's got two hats on his hands and and that's why his gloves look so weird, where there's palms on the end of his fingers in his gloves. Yeah.

Or mittens around. Yeah, mittens. They say it's a deleted scene, but it's not on the DVD deleted scenes, even hidden. I guess it didn't make it to color animation, then. Yeah. And yeah, they credit the Christy Yamaguchi line either to George Meyer or Dana Gould. It sounds like either of theirs. It's in their style so do you guys think homer is so brain damaged that he remembers the mr plow song but

not that he was mr plow or do you think that he's fucking with ned and lying to his face that he doesn't remember i think it's just the numerous blows to the head because uh not in their timeline but in our timeline that was eight years ago. And I'm sure a lot has happened to Homer, a lot of drunken nights, a lot of, he had a brief boxing career, of course. Oh, yes. But even in the commentary, they don't know what Homer is doing.

They're like, what is the joke here? Is Homer messing with Ned? And there's no answer. No, I just also think it's probably all the booze and the head trauma. But as we all know, Homer did keep around that plow king jacket for special nights uh with with marge that's right it's a sex jacket now yeah that's

funny too he's like time to put on my sex jacket to go save the kids they could uh flexibly clean while wearing that jacket oh man that must that must have a lot of odors to it, I would guess. Definitely. I think everything he wears, probably there's some odor present. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops.

So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? Oh, you know, they've dropped the joke, but they did many jokes that Homer was the smelliest man in the world, too. Like, stinkier than a hog rendering farm.

This bike joke coming up is great, I have to say. And on the commentary, they point out that George Meyer, one of the writers, wanted it to go on for a minute. Just going up and down the stairs and just panic in the school of this out-of-control bike. I love it as it is, but it would have been better if it had went on longer if the scene as it is continued with skinner saying all his lines and telling the kids to eat their relish but a bike was bouncing around the whole time that had been even funnier it's uh this is a rare commentary where dave merkin is on it and it's an episode he had nothing to do with and it sounds like he hadn't seen it yes yeah and that's why i love like merkin gets into his um

very opinionated showrunner mode but he says like it should have gone longer like he agrees he's like i would if i was in charge of basically what he's saying is if i was in charge of this episode it had gone on twice as long and uh one thing i thought of that they probably wouldn't go to these lengths and storytelling uh later is that there's a reason for these kids in different grades to be gathered into one classroom yeah yeah otherwise it wouldn't make sense you're right they're the only kids who are there and also it explains why later like they're all kept in the cafeteria that's why they can't they have to pee in a bucket and not go to a bathroom because they can't leave the cafeteria but oh no that seems a bit extreme to uh i mean school's got numerous bathrooms and just

i guess because they could get into delinquency in there so you have to piss in a bucket in front of everyone also at the fucking handful of like you get one apple and a handful of relish and then you're not letting me go to the bathroom after i'm eating relish for dinner uh that uh rarely has relish looked more disgusting like i it's cafeteria grade relish too yuck the way it splats on the wall though i like how skinner pops into frame after oh i rewound a few times how did he get into frame like that he just kind of rises out of his grave almost he just rises up like a vampire it's great. As Skinner is losing control of the place, he first looks to Superintendent Chalmers and then into his own past.

Sarge, let's make a break for it while the guards are partying with Jane Fonda. Nope, too dangerous. We're all going to sit tight and reminisce about candy bars. Well, one time I'm eating a candy bar at the beach and a girl starts taking off her bathing suit. Get back to the candy bar. The hell with this. I'm getting out of here. No, you fool.

That elephant ate my entire platoon. Well, I'm not going to let it happen again. Children, stand down. I said stand down. I said stand down. I'm not joking, people. From now on, there will be no talking out of turn or leaving this room. Willie? Aye, sir.

This sucks. Are you questioning my authority? Willie. Ow! My vest! Don't just stand there. Fight fight back there aren't enough code hooks to hold all of us actually there are 5 10 15 20 uh can you two share a hook yes sir we're fine then oh god i love skinner so much and this flashback i got excited when i remembered an elephant ate his uh whole platoon yes uh that's a great fate for all of them because when you're dealing with non

flashbacks you have to make them funny in some way by making them absurd and I do love that anyone could have escaped at any time but there is a vicious man eating elephant on the other side of that wall yeah and then also Jane Fonda is there at the prison partying with the guards

fighting for the Viet Cong a very old joke about uh jay lots of people still don't forgive her for that but uh i you know she i who cares that's yeah yeah but just the the image of that she would actually go and anyway it's it the point the the like it's a dumb old joke for sure but to take it to that extent kind of brings it back around to funny to me yeah i i think if if the joke was like he got shot by a vietnamese like soldier that's not funny it's just you know sad and then on top of that it's like how are they going to like you know the portrayal of a vietnamese soldier it's uh it's darker too yeah meanwhile if you have a an elephant uh wearing a you know rice picker hat eating a man that's that's at least you get a good laugh out of it yeah the hat

man come on uh they uh they credit the this turning into deer hunter stuff to al jean uh on the commentary which definitely makes sense because like his episodes had a lot of deer hunter stuff in it uh which episode was when uh there was a game of rush roulette happening at moe's and it was another deer hunter parody oh yeah one of his yes that actually it's like one of the most one of his it's the the naval reserve episode okay uh where he's like you know one of the six main writers on it and really the main writer on it. And that has one of the clunkiest ones ever, I have to say. I don't want to insult the writing of it too much. But it's the one where Homer and all of his friends at the bar,

they're like, oh, we're all going to join the Naval Reserves. And then Homer says, this is just like the deer hunter. And then Mo goes, deer hunter, let me go away real quick. And he walks into a room and realizes that the Russian roulette game from deer hunter is just happening in his back room. I forgot the setup for that was so clunky. It's like, we get it, guys. We get it. It is like, say deer hunter a third time.

Then maybe everyone will get it. Has anybody watched the deer hunter in a while? No, but I watched the clip of that famous scene and nobody's, I think, I don't think DD Mao has said, I just hear the word Mao. Yeah. Yeah.

I, it's on YouTube. The clip of it is like on the movie clips account. So this might be like a Luke, I am your father type of misremembering. Well, so there is another, you know,

I should have pulled him up. There's, was this the final one that it's him in a theater, or is this them in the prison? They're in the prison. So there's two scenes, I guess, then. Yeah, when he goes back to try to save Christopher Walken's character, it's in a more, you know, it's not in a prison,

but they're also playing it again. And maybe they say it there, though. I looked it up, too, and this is just Wiktionary. I could be wrong. But D.D. Mao means, like, get out of here. It doesn't. But it's like D means to go,

and Mao means quickly. But if somebody were to say D.D. Mao, it doesn't mean hurry up. It means get lost. That's according to say D.D. Mao, it doesn't mean hurry up. It means get get lost. That's that's according to Wiktionary. I if I'm if I'm wrong about that, please, please correct me. Vietnamese speakers out there. But yeah, I'm sorry, Eric.

Have you seen the deer hunter? Oh, not not for a long time. I think my last snow day in high school made it. I honestly I barely remember the film i've been meaning actually to go back to it and all the simpsons references might actually get me to do it that's why i finally watched it because i it was probably right after that naval reserve one i was like i just got to see this movie and it seemed fine to me as like a teen but then in my like late 20s i watched it after reading a review about how it's like

this needs to be left in the past because it is a super racist movie to the vietnamese like it's it's one of those films about like the vietnam war is a thing that happened to our soldiers not not to where we went and i mean the the most famous scene of the russian roulette is uh there is there's not one compassionate vietnamese person in it they are all uh basically like the devilish tormentors of of american prisoners who again they invaded their country yeah yeah yeah i mean the the post vietnam like not only filmmaking but like cultural malaise was very interesting like the whole like you know those like prisoners of war flags like in my little suburban new york town they still fly them and it just makes me think of like there's also movies i think chuck norris had one where it's like like there are still prisoners of war over there and

we're gonna go fucking save them from those monsters well it was the third or second rambo that's about winning the vietnam war finally like it that's the second one and the third one is where he trains Osama bin Laden that's right good man that's the 80s were about like we didn't lose the war these fictional characters won up okay

exactly also I have to credit friend of the show Nina Matsumoto for an amazing that's my wife you're talking of the show, Nina Matsumoto, for an amazing... Hey, that's my wife you're talking about. Bob's wife, Nina Matsumoto, had an amazing tweet about this reminiscing candy bar scene. Their observation was that this is podcasts in quarantine. Oh, yeah.

These guys stuck together like, let's just reminisce about candy bars until it's over. That was so funny. Skinner is so sexless that he doesn't want to hear a sexy story. He wants to hear about specifically the candy bar he was eating. But yes, it seems like Skinner's lesson he learned is that he needs to be a brutal imprisoner of people, not an army sergeant. He was too soft. He learned something from the Vietnamese. so there's that at least.

Then meanwhile, Homer, there's a lot of cross-cutting to Homer and Ned. It happens so often. It's like 30 seconds of school, 30 seconds of them in the car. This made me laugh a lot, where Ned says, I think you hit something, and Homer says, I hope it's Flanders. Forgetting that Ned is next to him in the car. And then he gives something like a don rickle style hey you're all right you're all right i love that yeah the little arm punch on the shoulder and yes as they the kids are put to bed that's when he's told that they

have to have a bucket next to bart's head which again i guess it's that skinner doesn't want him to leave the cafeteria it's not that there aren't bathrooms it's that they can't leave to go to the bathroom uh but yes then we get homer taking credit for a bad company classic in this brief clip i feel like making love making love to you did it did it did kanji song all right you really wrote it yeah as a tribute to princess die and dodie because these days princesses that's great you know what uh we forget about dodie who also died yeah i did some dodie research if anyone cares dodie was the i guess boyfriend of princess die what a weird story behind this guy because he's the son of an egyptian billionaire just like this international playboy who right before he dated princess di like a few months before he bought a

house for a supermodel that he was i think engaged to and left her for princess di and they were dating for maybe three months before they were killed in the same car crash uh and i have to think he's probably a huge scumbag yeah i mean egyptian billionaire perhaps yeah our son of an egyptian billionaire but hey if princess di liked it maybe it was okay there's no verse about him and candle of the wind yes candle in the wind i'm sorry uh if he's a rich guy he's probably a scumbag yeah but i i i in my light research i did did see the wiki page says that his billionaire father blames MI6 and says it was a setup. Which, you know, I'm not, he could be right, you know? You're right, you know, because it's like the royal family put a hit on Princess Di.

I think we could say that now. Now that Prince Philip's dead, it's safe to say. Even if you're a member of royalty, you got to wear your seatbelt. That's all i'm saying and that and had that not happened we wouldn't have had the we would have had a better ride in california adventure of the superstar limo they they had to slow down the superstar limo ride because they're like if it's about a fast race away from paparazzi that's brings people down homer acting like he wrote it like Candle in the Wind like Elton John, but apparently they wanted it to be the Kiss song,

rock and roll all night and party every day, but Kiss wanted too much money, and I definitely believe that's true because that's all it's about for Gene Simmons. He probably never watched The Simpsons in his life, I bet. I feel like Making Love is a worse song, which makes it a better choice. Yeah. I do feel like they were going for a dumb song there,

and they went with the Bad Company song, which I like enough Bad Company. You put one of their albums on, you get some stale beer and some cigarettes going, you feel like you're there. It's some real car wash in music. Yeah. Exactly. And I love that he does it to the two like, and some cigarettes going you feel like you're there it's some real car washing music yeah and i love that he does it to the two like didn't crash did it that he's also happily like driving into things to crash into in ned's car it's not his car and it's not his roof yeah which again taking your roof down in a snowstorm, not a good idea.

Also, credit to Lance Kramer and his animators that, like, what a challenge that is. To hit a fire, like, draw a car hitting a fire hydrant and it flash freezes water over it. Like, it's very well done for what they're asked to do. Also, I mean, just in general, to draw a blizzard, not easy. That's why there's seldomly snow on The Simpspsons because it just adds so much more detail to everything and even the characters having to like change their costumes that's as the night wears on bart tries to tunnel out and escape uh as ralph uh rubs his face with a scouring pad i love this this moment where where lisa tries to tell him not to do it because there's probably rescue workers digging them out. And then we get that joke with the wolves talking to each other, saying they smell human meat and start digging into the snow.

I wish those wolves had come back. That's the only. Those wolves could have waited for nibbles to roll out. Yeah. At the ending of the episode, they should all get attacked by wolves. You know, maybe that was their original ending before they're like no this camel is the way to go the wolf should have been hiding in the car when they go back to it yeah but uh but yes so bart uh is stopped in the middle of his digging

and skinner tells him he must quit willing destroy it. He did do a bunny job, sir. Defying orders, eh? Well, I see you Scotsmen are thrifty with courage, too. Okay, Skinner. That's the last time you'll slap your Willie around. I quit. Fine. I'll do the job myself. Help! It's caving in! do the job myself what's the problem Seymour stuck that's precisely the problem and you know

it now get me out of here what's that you want the pee bucket on your head no you're twisting my words come on we're taking over the school it's not part of the clip but i love the line between bart and skinner where skinner is telling him he basically dug a snow casket and bart says i was gonna put buttresses in and he goes gonna wanna shunna that is great yeah i should have got that it's okay it's a personal favorite of mine uh this uh gonna wanna shunna that's so great i and also it's weird to hear uh in america scottish rate the racism towards the scots uh don't you don't hear it as much and uh this is a lot of dirty jokes this episode i do like slap your willy around and there is precedent set for willy uh being a synonym for a penis in the halloween episode do not touch willy

good advice that's right yeah so two dick touching jokes in the same episode yeah man hands are on privates a lot in this episode now they really skirt over how they get skinner out of that hole and into a dodgeball bag that part is not addressed because conceivably a grown man could just burst out of this ball sack at any point i'd be well i will be calling it that for the rest of the episode ball sack uh you know i i have to assume in between the breaks jimbo kearney and willie teamed up to manhandle him into that dodgeball sack i can see willie being a threat yeah i i well and also you know okay skinner is i you know i do think when i first watched i thought skinner was just gonna have his head in that hole the entire time. Me too.

But maybe he froze so much while he was in there that he couldn't move his limbs for a time. So like he was half frozen. Like an ice, he's just in an ice block or something. Yeah. And here's another deleted scene for what would have been the act break. After putting the pee bucket on Skinner's head, I kind of wish they kept it because it's such a lame joke but it's that skinner asked willie for help and willie said willie would rather rock and then he pulls up a a mop and this starts pretending to strum it like a guitar with no music behind and the kids are

like yay willie rock music willie could have had a moment. At some point in the commentary, Matt Groening said there was a Skinner toupee joke in this one, but he vetoed it. He has been a protector of Skinner in terms of giving him toupee jokes. Because if you look at the character, he is wearing a toupee. Yeah. But Groening believes the show was above a toupee joke.

I mean, it's such a 80s high school film of like the principal's toupee flies off kind of gag yeah i guess it might have just they probably saw too much but apparently they haven't seen enough dick touching jokes uh yeah i think that i bet you in season one when they first drew his character model they're like in three episodes we're gonna have his toupee fly off and that'll be a good into a punch bowl perhaps right uh but they they never did it and uh only i showed you bob though the one time in the in issue two of simpsons comics they did a toupee joke and they confirmed it was a toupee but the canonicity of the comics is not equal to a television mac rating had that artist killed uh but uh they well also

they mentioned too uh speaking of like the work of the artists because they're going to do the ball sack joke later it always says dodgeballs on the sack he's in and that adds more line density to it but they're like well if we're going to say ball sack later we need to have it say dodgeballs the entire episode they made those artists work to get away with their ball sack joke yeah that is smart, though. They thought ahead about the ball sack, and I appreciate that. You know, you write with a goal in mind. That's a writing tip. And if the goal is a ball sack joke.

Also, talking about episodes, this reminds me of, this does remind me of when Bart took over Camp Krusty, I have to say. Yeah, totally. And the pandemonium that follows the drinking the relish out of a trophy is particularly disgusting yeah it's just the gruel that's like when they all ate the gruel in it well now the kids like the relish yeah i think there's also some line to skinner about how your reign of fussiness is over yes yeah so enjoyed uh i love i love how skinner is so bad at setting,

or he's good at setting up jokes to a bad degree. He's like, but where are the dodgeballs? Like, you're just asking if I like, let me have it. Yeah. It's a real Punch and Judy style set up. And there's an okay joke about the mustaches on presidents. And, you know, that's, I always think of like, oh, it's the Harvard guys doing their president jokes.

They've, they memorized every president. They're going to do a joke about it. But yeah, it's the Harvard guys doing their president jokes. They've memorized every president. They're going to do a joke about it. But yeah, Nelson loves the relish now. He's pouring it like straight from a last place cup into his mouth. It's disgusting. Meanwhile, Homer and Ned, they're not doing so hot. Stupid ice. I always knew I would die caked in something.

Better turn off that engine before those fumes put us in tombs. Wait, let's just leave it on till we forget our troubles. Sounds like a plan. I can't write this. It's a grammatical nightmare. Mao! Diddy Mao! I'm getting a cramp in my wrist. Oh, boo-hoo. After all the times I've done it my wrist sounds like a cement mixer. Ow! Come on Seymour! Mal! Diddy Mal! Ow! I told you

no one can climb a rope. It's physically impossible. What part of diddy mal don't you understand uh yeah again it's uh get lost is apparently what diddy mal really means but i love that uh flanders you know he's usually a stuffed shirt but here he's totally okay getting high off of cars that could be the exhaust talking yeah like you're like you know you're making you're making sense let's uh i love the rhyming of like these fumes but it's in tubes that's good too skinner is right it is physically impossible to climb a rope i've tried it man not in 20 years but still yeah i can co-sign that i never had to do it in any gym class it's pretty nice no rope i think definitely i there was like a place where a rope could be hung in the in my

very tall gym in uh middle school and high school but never i i never was witness to it even a rope ladder is kind of iffy you know those carnival games you have to climb the rope ladder to get the stuffed animals i'm not setting foot on that oh yeah i tried it once in like three steps upside down and humiliate i'm like i will never try that again nearly hung yourself i'm pretty sure my my school did have a rope and i think it was i either blocked all the memory or they finally just stopped doing it because no one could really reach the top we had the uh the expert rope which is just a regular rope hanging from the top of the ceiling and also the baby rope which was a rope with like these these beads these giant beads to keep yourself stable knots yeah yeah i could do neither one yeah i mean

hey pull-ups were enough for me i that i couldn't do like does everyone have to watch me for this but that's what these jokes are from of just like it's it's all the nerds getting back at their gym teachers of like it sucks though skinner should not agree to put his arms back in the ball sack after he they let him free for the climbing i think willie has a gun on him or something off screen willie has a gun trained on skinner at all times i believe that i i also carpal tunnel jokes were all the rage in the year 2000. We were finally, the idea of your wrist being destroyed like that was becoming a known thing. The sound of it, especially isolated like that, like, oh boy. And yes, now the kids are torturing him and it's time for them to read their permanent records.

Nothing like permanent record comedy. Also, I really love, it's so brief, but the wild shot of Skinner when he's spinning around, that's a really great drawing. It's a real Looney Tunes style drawing, and I was happy to learn that he did win a Princey Award. Oh, yeah, he finally got it. Yeah, he'd been wanting that for so long. Principal Kohotek was beating him to all these things.

Him, that little boy of his. But yes, the kids view their permanent records. We can finally see our permanent records. No, you can't go in there. Yay! Hooray! Underachiever and proud of it. How old is this thing?

Lisa is an outstanding student with a slight tendency toward know-it-allism. That's not even a word. Then we'll get rid of the record permanently i i like uh mara lisa complaining that know-it-allism isn't a word being thus being more of a know-it-all that that is the scullier lisa though for sure the the and i appreciate the permanent records reconstituting like t-1000 and going back into the drawer. I feel like that was a real boomer or Gen Xer fear. Now that we've lived in a surveillance state for 20 years, I just assume like, oh, the permanent record is in the cloud and I can never access it.

And several agencies have data on me. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, they're so deep into the commentaries at the time they make that one. They're like, oh, yeah, we were just thinking about Underachiever and Proud of It. Let's have a reference there. That had mattered since 1991. It was a decade-old reference then.

And yes, then comes a joke about how much money people make, which I like on the commentary that Matt Selman talks about how kind of gross it is that these millionaire Hollywood writers are like, can you imagine making $25,000 a year? I love the little kid economy because when you're a little kid uh especially back then if you got a 20 bill you're like well i could just do anything the world is my oyster and you oh i heard the garbage man makes 10 bucks an hour can you imagine oh yeah what you do with that 10 bucks every hour i don't know if you you guys had this but as a kid it was we all believed that garbage men were secretly millionaires like that's actually the highest paying job you can get

oh man no i don't remember the the garbage uh there was no like uh i don't remember people clamoring to be garbage men when i when i was growing up i don't remember much of anything about that time now that i reckon too many fumes yeah too many there's been a lot of during this pandemic i've just been running on pure fumes uh that uh by so skinner makes 25,000 a year uh in 2,000 money according to inflationcalculator.com that's equal to 38,000 a year today that's a starting price for a games journalist yeah i'm living proof oh yeah no ah man i think my first year was maybe 30 and then by the second year i got up to like 35 it's oh and that's like 2008 money i should say too and um in uh in 2006 i was

hired for my first full-time job in the television industry. I'd interned in before and I was, I ended up staying in the TV industry behind the scenes doing like broadcast operation stuff until like 2019 or late 2018. But anyway, 2006, New York City, starting salary, it was 27K. Oh my God. Man. Yeah. 27k oh my god yeah i went into debt while i was living it uh i was living at a foreign exchange student's living room oh my god i would pay him rent and uh yeah so 26k and i went into debt despite living in someone else's living room jesus i i was making 30 i think it was 38k

maybe less than that in San Francisco. And I couldn't afford to live in the city, obviously. I could afford to rent a room in Berkeley, but I was also going into debt from my first job out here. And I was in Queens for my entire duration in New York, my nine and a half years or so. It's having to live there it's the even if in other parts of the u.s like 30k a year goes a little farther though hardly i'd even i still wouldn't call that like too livable but that would that would have gone much farther in uh in most states but if you're in you're in the big city that comes with big city prices and they are astounded that he is uh debasing himself

in the summers by painting houses on top of his full-time job oh yeah or no i guess he isn't working he paints houses so i think it means that like he's a hitman for the mafia that's right yes he's he's the guy who killed jimmy hoffa yeah yeah uh but but yes skinner i also love in this clip that Skinner is, again, setting himself up for jokes without realizing it. Hey, look how much Skinner makes. $25,000 a year. Wow. Let's see.

He's 40 years old times 25 grand. Whoa, he's a millionaire. Wow. I wasn't a principal when I was one. Plus, in the summer, he paints houses. He's a billionaire if i were a billionaire why would i be living with my mother they're just not responding to logic anymore

i had also forgotten there's a 2004 episode of king of the hill that starts with this similar thing oh yeah misunderstanding how much hank is actually making yeah yeah that bobby i i like that one that uh con jr connie she connects it to a real life you know miserly woman who made a ton of money but secretly lived like a pauper's life just to keep it secret they think that hank is that way too but it's just it's uh it's one of those great adult jokes of like kids don't understand how little of your paycheck is kept all the time yeah just just to exist but yeah that skinner is like they're just not listening to logic anymore uh then we get a dramatic zoom in on nibbles who will be the savior of this episode he must have replaced super dude the late super dude r.i.p to a real one i

also again compliment the animation as skinner navigates nibbles into the hamster ball while having like his hands in a bag and putting it out through the window like it's really it's it's all very well executed please enter his hands are in a ball sack ball sack went over this ball i have to say ball sack every team's really manipulating that ball sack oh you know not everybody can get around imagine your testicles at hand just grab it at stuff from the inside i think that's on shutter oh yes yeah that sounds like a trauma movie right oh for sure what was that yeah no they did have a trauma movie that was like the evil penis movie i forget this time your balls grab you yeah uh but wsa skinner sends him out and uh he really should

write more on it than send help he should maybe say where to send help but whatever and the instant drop of the hamster into the snow is hilarious uh but he must he kept digging that it's one really strong hamster instead of freezing to death as most would expect from falling or suffocating yes yeah uh and then there's a funny little exchange of net of nelson catching him and skinner saying like uh you know there's a there's a hall monitor job in here for you and he's like like, I spit on your hall monitors. I know, that's why the position's available. But I'm, that's a funny exchange.

I also love the ADR of Bart saying, I'm throwing papers. Like that's so. His mouth isn't moving, but he is throwing papers, so. So noticeable. But yes, Homer and Ned, they're in dreamland. Marvelous, marvelous. Enough. I grow weary of your sexually suggestive dancing. dreamland. Marvelous! Marvelous! Enough!

I grow weary of your sexually suggestive dancing. Bring me my ranch dressing hose! Homer! Homer! Homer, wake up! The car's filling with... I know! Ranch dressing. A hamster ball. Just like the one that saved Ezekiel.

We're free. And we've got something to eat. So I rewound this part a billion times to figure out what the logic was behind the scene because, well, Nibbles breaks through the window, obviously is weird hampshire cannot be that strong but in trying to kill nibbles with an ice scraper homer sticks his hand through the windshield hole we don't see what he hits but that is what breaks the car free yeah yeah i i'm glad you say it because i also i went back twice or i was like wait how does because the car just becomes free it's like homer makes a grunt sound and then it moves down and like the ice chips away but

there's there's no real reasoning i thought it was like oh homer reaches the ice scraper out and then it hits some ice but it doesn't show it hitting ice and loosening it yeah i just feel like it was probably like a script thing that was easy to write but hard to convey visually but yeah this is the first time i actually noticed that there's no real logic to how they're free but it's supposed to be homer breaking something through the windshield hole yeah i think the uh then now we got something to eat joke is pretty sharp but uh i kind of don't like the the camel and and harem fantasies in this because it not only is like this is this is why we got 9-11 is stuff like this and then also it's it's almost veers towards like simpsons pornography especially towards the end of

the episode when homer's trying to make out with bart yeah bart with like breasts the the callback to uh making it that homer is molesting his son in a fume haze, that makes it even worse, I'd say. I mean, we'll get there, but I'm glad you brought that up, Eric, because the final joke in the show is the father figure of the show attempting to make love to his son while driving home. Yes. And then Lisa saying Merry Christmas. And Bart saying no, and Homer saying, oh, don't like that. Homer not taking no for an answer either. I hope that net intervenes after the credits come up uh at the very least the car must crash and prevent something from happening but yeah but you're also yes this uh this harem

this arabian nights harem fantasy thing it is you know a classic stereotype of the middle eastern world and also the the animators were having a lot of fun with that sexually suggestive dancing too i think it's based on you know bob hope and min crosby movies this kind of thing oh yes yeah yeah i mean the way to make it like a little like not you know i guess make it not racist make it like greco-roman or something sure they had multiple lives, too. There's lots of places you can have, you know, the implied sexual slavery of women in a harem. Yeah, and older men with younger boys.

Greek, obviously. Oh, God. Also, I was trying to think, like, wouldn't Homer have, like, a hose of beer or a hose of, like, I don't know, pretzels or whatever? I feel like the choice of a hose of white fluid blasting into Homer pretzels or whatever i feel like the choice of choice of a hose of white fluid blasting into homer's mouth that's why they chose what ranch dressing of all things uh and like what you know semiotically what is happening to homer when the ranch dressing explodes in his dreams oh my god i also have that question for you it feels like around this time we in america we're just getting around to understand like oh right ranch dressing is just you putting mayonnaise on your salad that's not good for you

yeah this episode i do think is a little too horny you know in retrospect you know the the the the juggler's dick and homer's face and uh everything else the ball sack leading up in the harem it's yeah it's a lot and uh we'll get to it very soon but the shot of the silo coming down the hill is very phallic yeah you're right and then white material exploding out of the tip wow yeah yeah man geez you're right now i'm sorry eric go ahead no no you're right he's just he's gonna impregnate that uh elementary school as we all know springfield is just downhill from a cracker factory that's where melis's dad works the elementary school always and all know springfield is just downhill from a cracker factory that's where melis's dad works the elementary school always and both it and the prison are visible from

marge's window we all know this the cracker security guard is pretty good i love that yeah the my horoscope was right that's a good horoscope joe yeah he really interpreted that very broad horoscope as a man in his car will crash into the salt silo. What is it like? You will face challenges. Yeah. And I also like the camel sounds from Ned. They're funny.

Not as good as Yardley's camel sounds later. But yes, so they start driving away. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? They head towards the Cracker Factory.

Then we cut to the kids burning books, including a book Bart used to love. Johnny Deformed. Yeah. So long, Johnny Tremaine. Your Newbery Award won't save you now. Not Huck Finn. I spent hours crossing out the sass back. We're going to crash.

Do you have airbags? No. The church opposes them for some reason. This is a timely joke as of this recording because we have that cruise control joke where Homer says, School, please. And that's how they end up on this collision course with wackiness. I mean, this happens a lot but just now one of those self-driving teslas just imploded and exploded and burned people alive on the inside yeah and apparently those those batteries burn hotter than the sun so there are now like special

instructions for how to put out a tesla battery jesus christ and it's wonderful uh so a self-driving tesla finally killed someone even that's I mean, it's happened before. Oh, that's right. And when that happens, you get all of the Elon Musk stans in the comments saying, well, this will provide valuable data for the future. Their lives were not lost in vain. Think of the death data. I just watched a funny video collection of Elon Musk. The secret of Elon Musk is that he constantly says, oh, we're like a year away from a self-driving car or some other lie. That gooses the stock price.

So that's why you constantly say, oh, I bet we're a year away from it. And this video at a collection of those many times he said for the last six years, we're like a year away, self-driving car. Better buy your Tesla now. It's future proof for it and then it's in the video it is followed by clip after clip of tesla owners and fans who want to love it and they're like i just installed the self-driving car and okay it wants to turn into the other traffic i better put my hands on the wheel again okay no it's doing it again all right well uh you know i think they're working the king set but oh nope it almost drove me in that wall, you need to be if you want to activate that mode, you need to be behind the wheel. Yes.

You can't just climb into your back seats. I think it's meant to crash and it's meant to burn people so they could be his servants in hell. And his endgame with SpaceX, et cetera, is to initiate some type of event horizon scenario where we expose hell and space and the demons can come down to Earth. I have to read this news story, just a clip of it, is that it's about that crash. So it required 32,000 gallons of water to extinguish this battery. At one point, responding deputies had to call Tesla to ask them how to put out the fire which kept reigniting so the tesla battery is like those trick birthday candles jesus that so they're even they're far more dangerous than it immediately it originally seemed even jesus christ oh man uh yeah and uh also uh current at the time and i guess it still comes around every you know nobody talks nobody talks as much about like, oh, they're canceling Mark Twain books now when people pretend to be mad about cancel culture.

But, you know, when people were just recently saying like, oh, Dr. Seuss is canceled. They didn't bring up Huck Finn again, but that was the one for the longest time, which Huck Finn has a character whose name is the n-word and uh but uh mark twain was from that time when he and he was no fan of slavery uh the the word but the word is used as a contemporary word then but it also is like i mean i've i didn't read that book but i read mark twain in high school i was like these are good books uh they're they are pretty timeless but also like i don't know maybe maybe it's a time to not make a 12 year old read a thing that has like a bunch of uses of the n-word in it you know that's that's all uh and and johnny tremaine was indeed a newberry award winner in 1944 uh but bart now hates that book now he he loved it in whacking day another season four callback interesting okay i think i

think it's uh usually i blame those on or not blame them i credit them to george meyer because like george meyer is having more and more power there and i think he doesn't remember like did i already talk about johnny tremaine for an episode in season four ah forget it let's just do johnny tremaine again it's funny that's true i mean you could draw from only so much in your mind right there's only so much shit in there i mean mine is almost empty but uh but yes the lisa recognizes she knows the sound of a silo tipping over it smashes into the school and uh martin figures it out and is instantly punished for it for being the nerd the savage beating on like just nelson's hair trigger is hilarious uh i love that that then i love good friends sodium chloride uh that just that it's just straight beating and then like you cut away

and that's it he just got straight beaten and then nelson doesn't say like shut up smarty pants or whatever he's just like no just beat like you know why this is happening you dare to be the know-it-all who explains in a dorky way why the they were saved uh but yes the the kids get outside homer is almost dead uh and we get to hear an immortal line in this uh final lengthy clip you did it nibbles now chew through my ball sack oh superintendent chalmers what are you doing in that ridiculous duffel seymour and is that burning literature i smell uh well sir I... There'd better be a good explanation for this.

There is, sir. Ah, then I'm happy. Bart, if there's one thing I'm good at, it's pretending things didn't happen. And I think this is one of those. One of which? Exactly. No, seriously, I wasn't listening. One of those situations where...

Gotcha! Come on, kids. Let's leave this awful place and never come back. Boy, that salt really ate through the car. And the exhaust pipe is leaking. What? And furthermore... Ignore her, Effendimore we have each other no use struggling my beloved chalamala Merry Christmas from the Simpsons

I guess they do crash yeah that's okay I didn't hear it until there. Yeah, I think this is how a lot of writers on the show at this time see Lisa, as a bleeding camel. Yes, yeah. That's why she goes, and furthermore. And furthermore. The Yardley does a great job with that sound. But I can see why on the commentary. Okay, when I first watched this as 18, I actually didn't like that ball sack joke and thought

it was too far, which is funny because Futurama did basically the same joke about ball sacks in the same year. This is not a productive area of discussion. On the commentary, Grady is most bothered by the wild take that Nibbles makes because he does not like when animals do comic reactions. He really hates it i like that chalmers of an earlier season simpsons episode would have had bart make up something and chalmers accept it but now they're so tired of that they're like chalmers just here oh there

is okay good he leaves like they're not even gonna waste time with an explanation and i guess it's because that bart was going to take the blame that Skinner is cool with him now. I guess. It just didn't matter because Chalmers didn't care. Yeah. It was funny to see that like, oh, Bart and Skinner, they make up. I'm surprised they cared enough about that because they really should just go like, it doesn't matter. Who cares? Like the episode's over.

And it's funny that Homer says we'll never come back to this place again. It's a horrible place. But yes, Eric, as you said it is very weird that the episode ends with homer trying to make out with bart and go farther than that even uh that that is pretty disturbing yes yeah not and not to mention seeing his vision of sexy bart as well uh a bit much yeah yeah i did not need sexy bart working in a harem that is is gonna drench us all with ranch dressing uh but i wonder if that was a late retake that after they did it the first time and saw how funny it was hearing yardley go oh we need to do that two

more times and she needs to say merry christmas the end. Are the other honks over the credits? Yes. Okay, probably. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there are some weird and very like lowbrow jokes in this, but I think they're executed well. And I love Skinner. There's not enough of him in the Scully seasons. And this is the Skinner I like to see. He's very in character. I like that there's a lot of Simpsons lore in this, not just flashbacks to Skinner's past, but also references to past episodes. So I do like this one a lot and I was excited to finally get to it when i first saw it at 18 i think i probably didn't like the ball sack jokes and also i didn't like when episodes ended it really pissed me off and the thing that pushed me away in season 12 as uh in a originally was

seeing so many episodes and this one i think counts too of just character shrugging like yeah whatever the plot didn't matter like that bugged me but now i as a person who just is like i'm trying to enjoy funny jokes to their fullest watching these these episodes i'm like this had funny jokes and and i i liked it you know the funzo one was a pretty good christmas episode though too this might uh this is second to that in a in the scully christmas years i'll say yeah um you know i i do i do skip what you guys are saying i i think i tend to prefer the more plotty episodes of the simpsons or if there's like a moral or or something i guess those earlier seasons it feels like there's more

meat on the bone with the jokes supporting that and this is just the jokes and there's some great ones here and i do like skinner episodes but some of it's a little scattershot and obviously some of it goes a little too far i do like the ball sack and i do like a lot i do like a lot about it i just the harem stuff is just a titch much yes yeah i i think it was intentionally retro even then they're like i remember in the old movies we saw growing up the jokes about the harems and the many wives like it uh part part of the fun in the scully years for them was uh i mean it was like ironic racism was the style at the time for sure like no no we know it's racist that's why we're joking about it it's just fun to see these stereotypes right

aren't stereotypes just fun like yeah uh you know we've changed we've changed since then well somehow but but uh yeah thank you eric for joining us once again obviously we hate movies a great podcast we love it i'm personally enjoying The Grand Return of Melrose 210, which is your 90210 and Melrose Place podcast. It's a great exploration of those cheesy classic series. But what's going on with We Hate Movies in the month of June? And where can we find you online and support you? Well, yeah, you can find out pretty much everything at whmpodcast.com.

Oh, follow us on Twitter at whmpodcast follow me on twitter i'm trying to get to that 10k club um but uh in june we've got uh you know a lot going on we'll have our second episode of our um of our once in a lifetime our new podcast where we explore lifetime movies in april we covered stalked by my doctor which is a barn burner of a movie so that's on our patreon as well as melro 210 as bob referenced we've got just a lot of content out there we we have a star trek podcast that we cover tos and tng also on the patreon we love movies episodes where we talk about movies we actually like. Main feed, mostly we hate movies, which is, you know, cheesier movies or movies that we just kind of take the piss out of.

And I love the Gleep glossary as well, going into the Star Wars history. You put so much of your heart on your sleeve in that, and I appreciate that. Yeah, I really, I let my freak flag fly when i read uh that's a that's a series where i read uh entries from the essential guide to characters for star wars and we kind of just have a lot of fun and riff on uh the star wars universe uh it's so that takes me back to like a totally different era of jokes about star wars like i think about like well what did our just knowledge of star wars a decade ago it's just so different now like now uh there's there's about to be some that uh star wars detours thing is finally coming out and i was just thinking like it was all written before disney bought it and like every joke is going to be sold now it's like remember when we joked about shooting first

it's like every joke is now a prestige series on Disney Plus. But thank you so much, Eric. It's always awesome to have you back. Oh, thank you for having me. And thank you for coming on We Hate Movies recently. If people haven't listened to that, check that out. So thanks again to Eric Siska for being on the show. Please check out We Hate Movies.

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