Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Sunday Cruddy Sunday With Kat Bailey

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

It's time for the Super Bowl, so we welcome back our football friend/USG Editor-In-Chief Kat Bailey to explain sports to us nerds! The show heads to Super Bowl XXXIII for drinking, arrests, egg magic, controversy, billionaire tyrants, tons of guest stars, and absolutely no football! So listen to this week's podcast now before we have our nephew Jody send it to you!! Support this podcast and get dozens of bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! This podcast is brought to you by the streaming network VRV: home to cartoons, anime, and so much more! Visit VRV.co/WAC to sign up for your FREE 30-day trial and kick a little money back to your friends at the Talking Simpsons Network!

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I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, ahoy, everybody, and welcome to Talking Simpsons, where we paint the town red with savings. I'm your host, President of Dunville, Bob Mackie, and this is our chronological exploration of The Simpsons, who is here with me today. Henry Gilbert, and legally, I can't even let you drive out of here on this podcast. And who else do we have? Cat Bailey and my favorite team is the Minnesota Vikings Excellent and today's episode is Sunday Cruddy Sunday

The road to the Super Bowl is long and pointless I mean what do you think about it? It's true and today's episode aired on January 31st 1999 The same day as Super Bowl whatever. And as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh, my God. Oh, boy, Bobby. The Atlanta Falcons lose to the Denver Broncos in Super Bowl 33.

That's it. Silent Hill debuts on the PlayStation. And She's All That is number one at the box office. Proof that if you're a girl wearing glasses and you just take them off, you're, like, now hot. You're a different person. It's the Clark Kent syndrome, right? Well, it's also you got to take your hair out of a ponytail.

That's the other step. Glasses and ponytails. And then you're just a fucking bet. That's all you are. I love that line. I'm a fucking bet. Did it invent that kind of trope because oh i'm sure it was there before that but she's all that was like the ur example i think like 80s music videos about

that trope like hot for teacher yeah yeah though i think it uh made it famous again for a new generation well i also think because not another teen movie made it so clear that they were making fun of she's all that specifically i think it made it more famous that they were making fun of she's all that specifically i think it made it more famous that they did that see if i take off my glasses i'm like millhouse with the teeny tiny little eyes you're petting a stingray right now uh the how'd they get in here the uh i found out in my research that she's all that is was like ghost written by m night shamalan he did a thing he did a script pass on that was a fairly poor twist as far as his go uh well at the end she was hot the whole time and the anime movie freddie prince jr does like a nude thing not really but was he in

that film yeah he's uh he's actually the above rachel lee cook in the the billing because he's the he's the male lead. He has more scenes. I always think of him as the lead of the Wing Commander film that was extremely bad and completely ruined the film career of the creator of Wing Commander who then subsequently went and made Star Citizen,

which is still in development today and will never exit it. Yeah, but it's a good, it's a pretty good Ponzi scheme. An amazing one. I think he's one of the flattest leading men of all time. Freddie Prinze. Well, that's why he got instead into writing.

He, like, seriously wrote for the WWE television program. Yeah, I thought he had a strange fate. It's pretty weird, yeah. A strange fate. An interesting fate. And he's still married to Sarah Michelle Gillard. That's right. Oh, really?

Yeah. That's funny because we were talking about Buffy earlier. Yeah, and the video games, I mean, Silent Hill, that was quite a game. It's a game I have never played, actually. Really? I played it. I think the series would just be this very small thing.

I mean, it is kind of small now, even, but it wouldn't be until 2, I think, that people started saying, you know, what's going on with this game? Well, when it came out, it was really cool because horror games was still a relatively new and interesting thing on the PlayStation. And, of course, Resident Evil was a big deal as well. It was more atmospheric than Resident Evil where Resident Evil was more blood and guts and that kind of thing. So they played off each other really well. Yeah, Silent Hill with the darkness and the fog.

And the fog. And the radio and red X's on your map. And Pyramid Head. That was in 2. That was 2. Yeah. See, no one remembers. That's because they put Pyramid Head in everything now.

He's lost all meaning. He was in the original film. That's true. He shouldn't have been. And more familiar with the remake of Silent Hill, Shattered Mem Memories that came out on the Wii, which was pretty good. It was pretty good. It's a pretty fun game, except for those parts where you run around and don't know where anything is. Yeah, but that's just because the game shouldn't even have anything like that in it.

But then they're like, well, what about monsters chasing you? Because there's no combat in the game. It's just about shaking your Wii remote and running. It was one of like three games that had you put the Wii remote up to your head like you were making a phone call. I love that. Yeah, not enough. There should have been more phone call-based games.

But the first Silent Hill, I had to play with my friend sitting next to him. We're like, we're going to play this together because we're both too scared to play it alone so you play and then i'll play and also i think it's one of the earliest games i used a game of fact for you kind of need it because it's pretty confusing and there's so many endings and some of them are pretty hard to get but that's silent hill for you but anyway super bowl super bowl the big game we we just talked a little about the big game in our previous episode about, oh, the Family Guy pilot. Good time. But now it's time for the Simpsons side of that Super Bowl coin. How many listeners did we lose?

I mean, can you track that? We didn't win any. Well, we're recording this before it came out. So if everyone hated it, we're safe from that judgment in this recording. We're still alive. But we have our senior sports correspondent, Cat Bailey, back on the show here. What are sports?

Question one, what are sports? Yes, those wonderful episodes when I'm not talking about video games or anime or robots or something. I had a Sony PR person who would always tell me, Cat, I just don't understand you. You're a girl and you like sports and also you like giant robot and JRPGs.

I don't understand. Well, it's almost like I'm a complicated and multilayered person who isn't just defined by one single interest. Exactly. Just like Rachel Leigh Cook. I would have contacted Sony HR. Get him out of there.

You know, video games, Rachel Leigh Cook, she's been Tifa in like five different games oh wow but yes the super bowl uh were you a viewer of super bowl 33 do you remember anything of it oh boy uh super bowl 33 definitely resonates with me in many painful ways because that was the year that i got into football actually actually. Oh, wow. Yes. This is a big one for me. So I think I've relayed this story in previous podcasts, but I got into sports. I was not a sport-o when I was a teenager.

I actually hated sports. Right move, I think. But my parents liked sports. They watched it. It was on the TV in the house. And then I was in marching band, and I was forced to sit and watch football with my eyes peeled open. And at a certain point I was like, huh, I actually understand how this

game is being played and I'm kind of enjoying it. And people are very excited and I'm cheering too. And my favorite local team, the Minnesota Vikings, why they're having quite a good season. A young Randy Moss is catching balls over the top of people and they're winning and they keep winning. They won't stop winning. They're like 15 and one. They're going to go to the Super Bowl and win it all. Oh my God, there's Gary Anderson shanking the kick and the Atlanta Falcons are going to the Super Bowl.

History has been denied. If you ever watch, there's an episode of How I Met My Mother with the character Marshall who's a big Minnesota Vikings fan. And they flash back to that moment where the kick goes wide left and he goes, damn it, just pounds his fist around the table, speaking for all Minnesota

fans. So you were watching Super Bowl XXXIII with sadness of wishing it was the Broncos and the Vikings. I don't think I had recovered from that point. And frankly, it's been 20 years and I still haven't recovered. Wow, I didn't know it was so personal for you. It was the single most devastating sports moment in my entire life, right at the very beginning,

because that's the way the Minnesota Vikings work. Every 10 years, they bring in a new group of fans, they entice them in with a very exciting and fun team, and then they break their hearts just in the most earth-shatteringly awful, most horrific way possible. And for me, it was the gary anderson kick so well you know at least the team that beat you guys lost too so no that's the thing though this super bowl should have been the vikings versus the broncos two teams that a they both

lost four super bowls and b the broncos had john elway was very good and a really good running back and then the vikings had the most exciting rookie. Everybody was like, should have been Vikings versus Broncos. The Falcons were a mistake. They got completely rolled. They denied us an amazing Super Bowl, in which the Vikings would have assuredly have lost. I hope. They would have lost horribly, but it doesn't matter.

We can all look at that and go, what could have been? So the only thing I know about football is based on video games, so I was happy to see video game celebrity John Madden in this episode. I bet a lot of kids don't even know who John Madden is anymore. They just think, oh, Madden's a weird thing to call this franchise. Why don't you call that the football game Madden?

There was a PR event a long time ago, like maybe five years ago, where I theoretically could have gone over because he lives in Oakland, you know. Yeah, yeah. I could have gone over because he lives in oakland you know yeah yeah i could have gone over to his house and watched football with him and he could have talked about strategy and maybe madden with me or something i don't know i would ask him about tenactin boom tough acting tenactin i remember it was like eight madden's ago or six to eight Madden games ago where John Madden is like an Obi-Wan Kenobi ghost explaining football to you. Like that was.

Oh, yeah. That was like Madden 09 or something. Madden 08. Yeah. That was the only Madden previews I ever took. And they were like, well, OK, you don't like football. So here's the John Madden ghost section that tells you. Does he taunt you?

No, he's a very. Listen, nerd. He's a very friendly blue ghost who tells you about. He's still with us. I like John Madden. I think he's a great commentator. He was a lot of fun. Yeah, Pat Summerall is not only with us, but John Madden is hanging in there.

Still going somehow. 83, like he's a giant man and also an athlete. I don't know how he's hanging in there, but he is. I'm going to warn listeners. There will be a lot of playing of the anti-death jingle on this episode because uh i'm very worried of the ages of a lot of the guest stars in this one oh god yeah uh but uh yeah the super bowl you mentioned john elway he was the mvp of it this was his homer's joke at the end of the episode is about john elway that this is, this could be his last chance to win it. And he did retire after this season. This was his last game of football.

Homer must have been thrilled to see his beloved Denver Broncos winning the Super Bowl. He owns them. Yeah. Maybe that's how they got their rings. Oh, my God. You're right. While they were in there, they're like, oh, yeah, Homer, you own us. Remember?

You're the team owner. Yeah. I was like, oh, wait, I could have just sat in the owner suite this entire time. Dope. Yeah, what, did John Elway's big play in that was an 80-yard touchdown pass? I mean, it's pretty good for, it doesn't happen in Super Bowls much. And here's the funny thing. It was over a guy named Eugene Robinson who got busted for soliciting a prostitute in Miami and thus

had an extremely horrible game and everybody blamed him for the Denver Broncos loss. But that's what everybody remembers the Falcons for in that game, which was him soliciting a prostitute. And then subsequently, 28-3. I apologize to any Falcons fans who feel very triggered. I'm going to say you're a football player

making that big money. Call a high-pric priced escort service. Don't solicit people on the street. That's the thing is that a lot of people are like, what are you even doing? Why are you soliciting a prostitute in Miami where there's undercover cops everywhere? Also, keep it in your pants until

after the big game. Then you got to keep all that energy inside of you before the big game. it's better than in like 1989 where a bangles player just got completely high out of his mind on cocaine right before the game so wow yeah there's a lot of good stories about athletes right before the big game uh also a funny stat i saw was that john elway was the oldest Super Bowl MVP until Tom Brady got it for also beating the Atlanta Falcons. Well, John Elway only got the MVP trophy out of pity.

It really should have gone to Terrell Davis. I mean, he was the old man who was going to retire. You got to give it to him then. Yes. Yeah, Tom Brady, fuck him, man. I hate that guy. He's getting weirder every year. I mean mean that thing

of him kissing his son that was pretty weird like he was seemed like a relatively normal person i don't know if it's like the repeated blows to the head but he's becoming like a i don't even know like children of the corn kind of guy weird he's hanging out with papa john schrader too much oh you don't want that oh but seriously bob have you seen the video of him kissing his son on the mouth uh you know what i might have seen like a still live it on twitter or something somebody But seriously, Bob, have you seen the video of him kissing his son on the mouth? You know what? I might have seen a still of it on Twitter or something. Somebody making fun of it.

But I don't know if I want to watch the entire video of this. I've just seen shots of it. It just makes me think of Team America where the little Matt Damon doll is going, Matt Damon! That's Tom Brady in my mind. And the halftime of the event was a celebration of soul, salsa, and swing. It featured the Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Stevie Wonder, and Gloria Estefan, because it was in Miami. Wow, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy had a Super Bowl halftime show? Yeah, yeah.

They were still kind of low rent at this point, right? 99, I think they were about at their peak. Okay, it wasn't quite like hooray for everything. No. Up with people. Yeah. The 90s was full of people like the Simpsons making fun of halftime shows. So like, well, was it a few years before this?

They had Michael Jackson, right? Well, in 1992, the Super Bowl was hosted in Minnesota for some reason. And it had a very bad halftime show. I watched it. The marching band was in it. I was in the marching band, actually. Not that particular marching band. Yeah, and it was really, really cringeworthy.

Everybody would just stop watching and go away. And I think the NFL kind of went, we can't do this anymore. So the next year in the Rose Bowl, they had Michael Jackson, who put on one of the great performances ever in a Super Bowl. And from that point on, it became a thing. But I remember in 1999, I didn't watch that halftime show because of halftime counter-programming by the WWF. The USA Network, they did Halftime Heat. I'm going to say we were too late for the Butt Bowl, which I always enjoyed. Was the Puppy Bowl a thing? Oh, the Beavis and

Butt Head butt bowl, yeah. Puppy Bowl, I don't think that was happening in 99. But the butt bowl definitely was. The butt bowl, but not the butt bowl. Well, the Halftime Heat, it was a match between Mankind and The Rock, and Mankind defeated The Rock for the WWF Championship. It was one of the

rare, like, it was a not live match and in a empty arena so they could film it and cut it to the exact length of the halftime show so they could make sure to let people viewing know that like the halftime show is still going after i'm just still going you're not missing anything now i don't feel like people really try to counter program the halftime show anymore there's a good episode of all real monsters thinking about that yeah yeah or everybody's flushing the toilets and so they go surfing the big race yeah the top ads of that super bowl included

another appearance by the budweiser frogs the one of the old cartoon characters using mastercard to buy things if you remember that where uh olive is buying a Wonder Bra, among other jokes. Was Jerry Seinfeld hanging out with Superman yet? That one wasn't there yet. And for, I think, a real first for the Super Bowl, there were commercials from websites. Websites. Like buy.com and monster.com. But not pets.com.

No, not pets.com. I think that was a year later. Go Daddy really.com but not pets.com no no not pets.com that was a year later go daddy really took over super bowl ads at a certain point i bought a lot of things from buy.com really yeah i was it was either ebay or early amazon for me if i was buying stuff in the in 1999 on the information super highway but yes the sim, The Simpsons got the big spot right behind the bigger spot of Family Guy, but of the post-show entertainment. As joked about in the Lisa the Greek episode, it actually can be a curse to have a show

that's after the Super Bowl. Family Guy was no Handle With Care, which was Troy McClure's sitcom. A retired criminal? Is that what it was? Yes, Jack Handy is living with a retired... We're the original odd couple. But yeah, The Simpsons aired right after The Family Guy. Mike Scully, we just talked to him in a brand new interview everybody should listen to on the Patreon.

And he talked about how heavily they pushed with Fox to get to be after the Super Bowl and to do a Super Bowl episode. And so once they found out they were getting the spot in Fox's, I don't believe it was Fox's first Super Bowl, or maybe it was. It couldn't have been because they started in like 94. Well, yeah, though, I mean, the Super Bowl kind of like goes, what, from channel to channel each year? Yeah, it rotates. But maybe it was.

I mean, it sounds like it was a momentous event for the simpsons certainly yeah they uh they pushed real real hard for this and i think they they even called it a few favors to get on you know man and summer all but meanwhile throwing futurama under the bus oh yeah yeah yeah we yeah poor uh poor futurama thought it was talked about this like a million times but painful well you know, they really liked Family Guy more than Futurama at the Fox executive. I have a confession. I liked Family Guy better than Futurama at the time as well. What?

Wow. Yeah, I mean, I was a stupid high schooler. I didn't know any better. I watched Family Guy. It had zany humor. I thought it was hilarious. And Futurama kind of washed over me because it was going to be a... You're a Star Trek fan.

It was a little too sophisticated for me at the time. Yeah, wait. Didn't your Star Trek jeans make you a lot of fun? It didn't really have Star Trek stuff in there except for Leonard Nimoy

in the head jar. Leonard Nimoy's in the first episode! He welcomes you into the world. Their doors sound like the Enterprise doors. If they showed me the Star Trek episode of Futurama, then I would have fallen in.

Oh, you have to wait four seasons for that to happen. Yeah, exactly. But it's a good one. So I guess we could talk about, there's a new writer on the show, if we're done with the preamble. Oh, yes. So the new writer is Tom Martin, no relation to Jeff Martin, previous writer on the show, who we also interviewed. So a real brief bio on him. His first role as a writer was on the 1993 TV special.

It's called Tom Arnold, colon the naked truth three and this is uh not what you think it is it's a reverse expose in which before being interviewed by lisa gibbons roseanne and tom arnold interview other people and it must have been on like comedy central or something like that i remember this and like judd apatow's a writer on it like people you know have written on this well apatow worked a lot for Roseanne in his early days. That's right, yeah. So he wrote a few sketches for SNL. He worked a bit on Great Cunears later. Are we familiar with that?

If you stayed up past Conan, you could often watch later before it was Carson Daly's show. Yeah, I watched later a couple times, maybe, and just was like, oh, the TalkSoup guy. Yeah, he left TalkSoup to get a show at 1.30 a.m. on NBC. He wrote this special called the naked truth 3 and then he went on to write for the sitcom the naked truth and just

shoot me and then he went to the simpsons he wrote he wrote uh this the grift of the magi and pokemon that's all three episodes i think he just co-wrote this with like 50 people yeah yeah this is the one of the longest list of writers for a non-Halloween episode they ever did. Did you say Pokemom? Pokemom. So basically the spinoff about Ash Ketchum's mom. Not that interesting. Her Adventures with Mr. Mime.

Yes. No, it's about Marge befriending a convict played by Michael Douglas. No, no, sorry, Michael Keaton. Yes. Oh, that has a good... I haven't watched that one in a long time, but I remember it had a really good joke

about Marge seeing different things outside of the kitchen window twice. That is good. That was a good joke. And so after The Simpsons, he would go on to write a few episodes of Nicky, the Nicky Cox sitcom, and also two episodes of Clone High.

So he wrote 20% of Clone High, basically. Or like 15% of Clone High. So now he mostly seems to do kid stuff. He also wrote a few made for tv muppet movies like a very it's called it's a very very muppets christmas movie and the muppets wizard of oz so you might think there are only like only six muppet movies but there's actually like 43 and there's like 30 just made for tv that you probably haven't watched that wizard of oz one was fun they should have just done more of those. A famous public domain

thing starring the Muppets. Treasure Island was great. Muppet Treasure Island was the best. It wasn't just great. The best of the Muppets? The best. If you said it was the best post-Henson thing, then I'd agree with that. I have a soft spot for

Christmas Carol. Me too. Because my family liked it. I do like Christmas Carol a lot too, but too but man tim curry i mean michael caine's really great too boy it's hard to i mean i think the reason i have a soft spot for treasure island was that it was just on loop on tv it felt like it was just always on just through familiarity yes i guess to this episode it starts out with a reference we need uh to explain, the Dirty Bird. Oh, Christ, yeah. What the hell? It's a dance made famous by running back Jamal Anderson on the Atlanta Falcons, right? Yes, the Atlanta Falcons had a very good season that year.

Remarkably, they would become very bad right after that. But in the process of that happening, they invented an end zone dance called the Dirty Bird, which I guess people from Atlanta felt was very much of the Atlanta culture or something to that effect. Yeah, like I didn't get it at the time. I remember seeing it during that game and going, what the hell is this?

But yes, it is probably the last remnant of that particular team. People call them the Dirty Bird Atlanta Falcons. Is it like an obscene dance or something? No, it's just a dance. Kind of like a chicken dance or something. I hear the Dirty Bird, I think, of things. Well, that's why it's a fun name.

Didn't the NFL, don't they normally hate end zone dances or something? They clamped down a lot after that because they got to a point where somebody kept a Sharpie in their sock or something and were signing autographs. And there was that one point where they hit a cell phone and pretended to take a phone call. And the NFL was like, stop that. Stop having fun. No props. No fun league. That's how it is.

The only thing worse than dancing is kneeling if you're in the NFL. Well, hopefully the XFL will have more dancing and no kneeling. Mandatory kneeling. Are you all in on the xfl henry oh certainly not no honestly i hope that it drives uh vincent man into retirement because he'll be stretched too thin that's what i hope he i mean he's only doing it because people made fun of him for the xfl being a failure like there was that the espn documentary was all about how the xfl sucked and it was a giant failure and that made him so mad even though he was involved in it he was like i'll do the xfl again and it'll be a success and then no one can call it a failure so he's spending like a hundred

million more than a hundred million of his own money on it okay i'm all in on the xfl now if it gets vince mcmahon to waste his money that great. It is nice to see that. He's making jobs. Though that's the thing with the XFL. It's just you won't get good football. The best players will just sign up for the NFL. Only people who can't get into the NFL would go there. And if you actually then were like the best player on your team, you would very likely just be picked up by the NFL the next season, I would think, if you proved yourself that good i'm pretty sure the xfl debuted like a year after this episode it wasn't long afterward oh yeah it was a big deal too people were treating it as a thing they announced the xfl yeah it started right after this your governor was an announcer on the x yeah

in fact my governor had just been sworn in at that time and like man what a weird time the vikings were probably going to the super bowl and jesse ventura was our governor and it was well it was heady time that was once the weirdest thing to happen now we've moved past that yeah it's so weird that that weird stuff doesn't feel like anything now it's like no we didn't know weird i didn't vote for him wasn't old enough probably would have voted for him i mean he uh if you were like 18 and he's telling you all this like you know yeah change and third party stuff you're like yeah fuck no people voted for him because he had this action figure commercial oh okay yeah they just took his commercial his action figure put him in a little suit

put him behind the the wheel of a bus and we're like, Jesse Ventura, he doesn't take any special interest money. And he's going to body slam like politicians. And like as a 17 year old, I'm like, hell yeah, I want that guy. It worked on me, political advertising. That's why 18 year olds shouldn't vote. The Simpsons will be right back. guest be sure to check out all of our stuff at us gamer and if you'd like to support me and bob doing this full time so we can give you all the football stats you love you need to be supporting us at patreon.com slash talking simpsons and thanks to supporters on there that me and bob can do this five dollars a month gets you access to every episode of talking simpsons a week ahead

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Mike Scully said part of the joke of this show is that it takes them so long to get there, they never see the game. So there's like a set piece about post office, a set piece about getting your car fixed, and a set piece about doing a craft kit at home. And then there's like eight minutes of Super Bowl stuff somewhere in there. The trick, Henry, is there is no connective tissue because they just kind of threw a bunch of stuff in. They will admit that. They said so in the commentary. Well, I think it can be extra wonky too

because when you've got four credited writers on it, it's going to be all over the place. In other words, they went full Shrek on this script. Well, so this begins with a visit to the post office. Now, who's ever wondered to the post office. Now, who's ever wondered how the post office works? No one? I did until we came here last year. Ah, yes, last year.

Anyway, look, here comes our guide for the day, Postmaster Bill. Howdy, partners. Welcome to your post office. Wow, it's ours? Be with you in a minute. This is the lobby, where customers come for all their postalistic needs.

Legends of comedy, my tookus. What has Fatty Arbuckle done that I haven't done? This machine reads zip codes. These five digits tell us where to direct your mail. But it's nine digits now. What's the point of these other four numbers? Those are citizen relocation codes. With any luck, we'll never need them.

She's on to us. Should I flood the chamber? Not yet. Let's get some lunch. Well, children, any questions for Postmaster Bill? You ever gone on a killing spree? Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. No, no.

The day of the gun-toting disgruntled postman shooting up the place went out with the Macarena. Well, I'm just glad I work at an elementary school. Oh. Right? Wow, that's... That's about four months before Columbine. School shootings are already in the air there. Columbine would have been the biggest.

That's right. People forget about Jonesboro. Fuck. It's like the Velvet Underground of the year. Boy, that joke. The joke is supposed to make you go, oh yeah, shootings happen everywhere, don't they?

Now, tons of different professions for angry white men are features of gun massacres, not just postal service. Oh, the Krusty joke is good, though, because I didn't read that as – because I didn't really – I don't think I knew who Fatty Arbuckle was in the 90s. But, you know, the story goes like, oh, he was framed for murder or whatever. Sorry, framed for sexual assault. I recommend you go out and listen to the You Must Remember This podcast about him, which kind of changed my mind. I was like, I think he did it. And if he didn't, he's a disgusting creep. And so when Krusty says he's done everything, implying that he's done everything that Fatty Arbuckle has done, that's a very dark thing that he's saying there.

The fact that Fatty Arbuckle got drum. That's a very dark thing that he's saying there. The fact that Fanny Arbuckle got drummed out of comedy, and meanwhile he's on this Legends of Comedy Yeah, that also doesn't really fit. It's funny. The cancel culture happening in the 30s, everybody. It wasn't just invented. The last four digits of a

nine-digit zip code represents the specific delivery route within the overall delivery system i don't know mine and i hate when they ask me for it i have to look at an existing piece of mail yeah i don't know it either maybe i should grab some nearby mail let's see oh that's not mail oh well anyway yeah i uh actually i shouldn't i'd be doxing myself out here if i read if they figure out the first five and they know your general zip code i think that was also really in the air in 99 of like this conspiracy theory that the government had these plans of like if we have to you know round up all people or do something

the fema camps yeah it was uh it comes from the same place as alec jones's fema camps i think this was around the time that they also changed the area codes, much to everybody's consternation. Oh yeah, there'll be an episode about that too, coming up soon. Oh yeah, yeah. In about three years of the show. I like my area code here. I hope I never lose the Oakland area code. I don't know what mine is. Well, because you still have your old phone. I still have my Ohio.

I'm 3304life, yeah. Kept my phone number. 510-NICKELDIME, that's my number, baby. 952-4LIFE life or something i don't know and uh thanks to pro wrestling and i know that the san diego zip code or area code is 619 because that's where ray mysterio's uh moves are called i think they're making a statement with that post office joke where they're saying uh you know post office rampage jokes are hack oh yeah so i love that we're not going to do that kind of a joke

because it's 1999. I'm really glad they made that joke about how like, all right, we brought the kids to the post office. Where's the going postal joke already? And instead the joke is that that is a hack thing to say. It's as musty as a mockery to joke.

Yeah. Like five years ago was Homer Loves Flanders and there's that fantasy where Flanders is shooting people from the bell tower and a mailman pulls out a gun and starts firing back at him. That was five years ago in the show's history, so that's how old the postman going postal.

That's how old that joke is. So this is a perfectly acceptable and enjoyable opening to the show, but I think the police station bit from the beginning of where Lisa goes into the military, I think the police station bit uh from the beginning of where lisa goes into the military i think that one's slightly better this is a very similar joke isn't it yeah kids touring stuff they needed to do more kids tour thing yeah the way they get to the football game is like an adventure game puzzle where bart gives homer the coupon book and then homer gives the

coupon book to the the card card dealership or whatever. It's weird. So they go to the dead letter office. Well, first there's a joke about postman stealing your money, which I like that, though. It's all right. But then they go to the dead letter office, which, again, now as a grown-up, I get the joke about pots being shipped in a box.

But there's a really... An actually really good Ralph joke, by the way. Yeah. A solid Ralph joke. I love that he says, mine's dog food. shipped in a box but there's a really actually really good ralph joke by the way yeah solid ralph joke i love he says uh mine's dog food that's such a funny funny reaction he could have said out of all the non-sequiturs he could have said that that was a really fun one millhouse gets back his letter to santa which but then there's such a weird cut to the like bart instantly has out the coupon book he goes like a coupon book

like he there's really something missing there i double checked the deleted scenes on the dvd like nothing's there uh there are deleted scenes for this episode but not there so it does feel like something got cut out of bart taking out the thing from the collection of dead yeah it seemed a little awkward to me but uh but yes the value coupon book i i had one of these i bought through my high school the value book or e-value i forget what they called it but uh the main thing i used it for actually was pizza like in homer's pizza coupons there was a papa john's deal to talk more about the nfl's favorite pizza uh the papa john's one, it was buy one, get one free. I could just say over the phone, I have this coupon.

The delivery person would never ask for it. And then I just use it over and over and over again. In theory, a coupon exists. I'll take my word for it. I mean, what does that delivery person care? But yeah, I enjoyed my coupon book, though not as much as Homer does. A coupon book? What am I going to doer does a coupon book what am i gonna do with

this piece of junk happy birthday dad wow a value called coupon book let's see 10 off carpet cleaning 10 two pizzas for the price of one at doughy's doughy's has terrible pizza. Yeah, but there's two. Ooh, free foot pain analysis. Oh, Marge, that's just a trick to get you in there so they can cure your foot pain. I guess. See you, kids. Me and my value-quad book are going to paint the town red with savings. I'll start with a couple of pizzas, then a complimentary tango lesson, and I'll cap it off with a smooth, refreshing

colonic. Um, Dad? Do you like pina colonics? And getting caught in the rain, passing out in the ocean. There was a lot of hype behind colonics at this time, too. Yeah, they were the new hip thing to clean you out.

And that was funny yeah i'm getting things squirted into your butt soapy water shot up into somebody's butt and then sucked back out that's that is a funny idea yes a good song too oh yeah hearing the pina colada song i mean that's genius to bring to combine the pina colada song with the colonic homer's just excited for his colonic which also for his personal health i think he could use one anyway yeah i don't know i think they could be pseudoscience who knows i mean they're gonna clean some stuff out of there but it's got to be a better way there's got to be a better way i mean bran that's the way fiber high fiber diet leafy greens so for 20 years that march foot champagne joke has made me so sad's such a sad joke just goes i guess it limps away it's tough

for march it's a tough couple seasons i gotta say this is such a mean joke they're only trying to cure your foot pain you idiots yeah well i mean i did hear these kinds of exchange exchanges with my parents like my my dad would always say to my mom they saw you coming they saw you coming and so he often took the pose of i am the smart person preventing you from being scammed because a simple woman uh and so homer's kind of taking that stance too just like oh it's just a trick you to fix something but it's it's for your foot paid all that they agree that marge obviously has foot paint everybody knows this but the way marge just accepts like you're right.

Like just pained steps. She's a tool of the doghouse makers, that Marge. Is this the most protastic episode of The Simpsons ever? Because it's all the dudes just really duding out all the time. And Marge and Lisa are basically left

to mess around with a craft kit. And also Marge complains about her foot paint at one point. At least they have a plot and lines. They could easily just be not in this episode. I was actually kind of surprised that they remembered very, very, very briefly, but I guess we'll get to that.

John Madden remembered. Yeah, they do appear in all three acts at least. I think there might be bro-ier episodes where they don't. Though, yeah, I mean, it's about a bro's trip. It's about how certainly no woman would want to go to the Super Bowl later either. No way. But yes, then Homer goes to... High pressure tire sales.

That's great. Yeah. And boy, this took me back to 2005 where a friend's dad or former friend's dad... This is what broke it. Did this to me. Like he really did like we were about to go on a cross-country road trip and we're like well probably need like some breaks changed out or whatever just a little tune-up before a big long cross-country drive from

florida to california and then he told me like you know you really need three new tires i just don't know i don't think you really need to go i think you and my son shouldn't be driving across country if you don't buy these tires if the situation was reversed and it was his son's car no way would he have told his son oh yeah but it really pissed me off because i like so trusted him and his dad that i begged my parents to loan me the extra money to pay for three goddamn new tires and i just uh boy i that guy. You survived the trip out here. What a fucking scam artist, though. I can't.

You didn't sleep well at night, though, knowing that you had those tires. I guess so, yeah. But, man, yeah, my friend was taking his dad's side. Of course, he's like, well, my dad does know mechanics. He's been a mechanic all this time. I'm just happy I don't have a car anymore, so I don't have to deal with that when I get my oil changed

or anything like that. Whenever I would take my oil to get changed, I'd be like, oh, you should do this, this, and this, and I'd be like, I have no money. I don't want to do this. I just want to pay for an oil change. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, the high pressure is once they get you in there, they need to find something wrong to get more

money out of you. They can tell I know nothing about cars. Now they have cars where they just plug in the little diagnostic computer and it just tells you exactly what's wrong with it oh yeah so it makes it a little harder to get away with things but it also makes you dread those dashboard lights all the more because you know that there is legitimately something wrong check engine i'll get around to it that actually happened to me it was going on and off for quite a while and finally they were, you got to get this one part done. And I'm like, damn it. Everything should last forever.

The masking tape should have just stayed on so you should forget about it. Cars are just giant money pits. Oh, man. I haven't owned a car in 13 years. So this scene made me feel good at not owning a car. We somehow own three. I don't even know why. Wow.

These game journalists fat cats. Taking pay. car we somehow own three i don't even know why wow these game journalists fat cats taking pay but yes homer he got more than he bargained for at the tire shop now this wheel balancing is free right oh you bet you absolutely oh oh oh wait a minute these tires won't take a balance. They won't? Nah, nah, no. You hear that clunk? No. That tells me you need four new tires. Really? Yeah. Legally, I can't even let you drive out of here on these. Oh, please. Can't you let me slide this time?

Gee, I'd really like to, but if my boss found out, I'd... All right, what's going on over here? Were you going to let this man drive out of here on unsafe tires? No, boss, I swear. Ah, that's it! You're fired! No, wait! This is all my fault! Oh, if I could only turn back the clock and buy

four new tires. I love when Homer is the perfect patsy for anything. God, that he's saying exactly what they want to hear from a guy they've tricked. I like their very rehearsed play, this clerk and manager uh homer thinks he likes stars in an after-school special about buying tires he's like if only i could turn back time and the charles bronson guy is basically

the used car sales or the car sales mechanic guy he's kind of the uh like his son. He's not exactly... He's like Bronson's son. Homer then gets just completely bamboozled, sent to sit in the very realistic... This is where the waiting room I had for my friend's dad fixing my tires. The waiting rooms are a lot better now. I was just in one at the dentist today, and I was like, do people actually read these magazines? We all have our phones.

Everyone in the waiting room was playing with their phone so waiting rooms are just like oh twitter time this is what's truly killing the magazine industry yeah that uh nobody even in the waiting room i used to be my doctor visit waiting room would be uh i would read the new yorker i'd be like time to catch up on the new yorker because i'm smart. And then I just read the cartoon. Oh, Howard Hughes. And unlike Angry Beavers, they actually pay for the real Herb Alpert song with Tijuana Grass Plant. On our What a Cartoon podcast, we did the show Angry Beavers,

where they had an egregious sound for Spanish Flea. There was enough notes that were different that they got away with it. Homer should, you can tell Homer's not happy because he's not singing along to Spanish Flea like he was in Spinal Tap. It's normally one of his favorite songs, actually. That's how unhappy he is, because he knows how he got taken.

And as he's moping about his situation, he meets this episode's first of many guest stars. Ooh, I know that look. You came in for the free wheel balance and now it's costing you 500 simoleons. Six with a tip. Hey, you got off easy. I just came in to use the phone and they got me for the whole Road King package. Alignment shocks, armor all, stem lube.

Stem lube. Even I didn't fall for that. Although winter is coming. Man, we are a couple of grade A suckers. Wally Kogan. Hey, I know you. We were in the same pyramid scheme. Oh, don't remind me.

Friends helping friends my ass. Say, you want to grab a beer while we're waiting? Yeah. I'm getting tired of them pointing and laughing at us one of those guys is really colored like mario yeah it's old man mario homer still tipped after being ripped off yeah six instead of five at a hundred dollar tip that's pretty crazy uh like a 20 tip yeah uh well i guess that's, I don't know how much you're supposed to tip. I don't think I ever tipped at the mechanics, but I'm learning there's a lot of things I've forgotten to tip at that I should have. Homer's saying winter is coming before Game of Thrones.

Winter is coming. Somebody pointed this out, and this is really pedantic, so you'll like this, Henry. Oh, boy. Hey, wait a minute. The Super Bowl takes place in February. That's well after the winter has started. Yeah, you know what? They go out for a beer, and then they're being told the bye week is there,

so it has to be like January 20th or whatever. Well, you know, in Springfield, they're famous for their late winters that don't come until the end of January. Maybe Springfield's actually in the Southern Hemisphere in this episode. Well, but then, no no they drive to miami they can take a bus to miami so clearly they're not in the southern people writing in la forget about weather yes yeah yeah but that is fred willard the inimitable irreplaceable fred willard let's uh let's play that anti-death death jingle for this 80-year-old comedy legend. He's playing Wally Kogan,

named after Wally Wolodarski and Jay Kogan, two of the oldest writers, or earliest writers, rather. They left the show in season four. Not in age, perhaps, but yeah, they were core writers to the show there. Wally and Jay's leaving in season four

opened up the spots for Bill and Josh to get hired. That's right, yeah. And I think they were two of the football maniacs on the staff. The gamblers. Yeah, the gamblers who love their... Like, yeah, you like sports, but you're not into sports gaming, right? Not really. It means gambling.

Yes. I tried it once, and I didn't particularly enjoy it because, I mean, I did okay, but I was starting to lose money, and I hate losing money. Yeah, that's not so fun. But winning, that's pretty nice, though. Winning's fun, and it makes you feel smart. Yeah, I guess that shows you the different writers in the room for this episode because no one is gambling on these games. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, their most focused football episode before this was Lisa the Greek, their previous Super Bowl episode, which showed just as much football in it.

Does the Pop Warner episode not count? Well, okay, yes. They're degenerates who will totally bet on Pop Warner football. I'm sure there is. I should have said this is the most NFL episode since that one. Oh, but yeah, Fred Willard, he was a comic actor in tons of things. They just had on his partner in comedy for many years, Martin Mull, in a few episodes ago. He's one of the hippies from The Commune.

Seth and Munchie. Yes. One of the two. And Fred Willard, though, my favorite thing he ever did is the... Public masturbation. No. Okay. He's an old man

he didn't know you could he doesn't know how to masturbate using the internet okay he got it was a peewee herman type thing yeah in a porn in a designated masturbation spot exactly who can i mean look yes if he was jerking off on the street yeah then yes arrest him sure but leave this poor old man in his porno theater alone i think it's sweet but no what i was talking about was his uh manager character in mighty wind he is his what happened guy like he is the funniest that movie is full of hilarious stuff and he's the funniest part of it if you ask me like he's so so great is there this failed charles nelson riley type guy who now for some reason manages a the new main street singers and he's constantly thinking anybody remembers his one season long 70s sitcom it's

it's such a funny character i love all those films, A Mighty Wind and Best in Show and all of that. But I didn't realize that he was the CEO in WALL-E. Oh, yeah. Like the live action CEO? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, weird. It's a weird choice. At the time, I really was thrown off by that.

But now I really like that as a flourish. It really kind of gives WALL-E its own character. And he does a great job as that particular character. It helps the allegory of Wally being about our doomed future because it's like, this future used to be live action and now everybody has inflated

to cartoonish sizes since then. It makes it more real, though. Then, you know, we all go to Target and buy our Wally toys. That's true. And then throw them in the gutter. So, yeah, he normally plays like a baddie character, but here he's just kind of like a straight man, like a put-upon straight man.

He's kind of playing a Gil type character? A little bit, yeah. There's a little bit of desperation to him, although they never sell him out that he's like a bad travel agent. He's like a nice, helpful travel agent. He's not trying to rip off Homer. He just is gullible enough to buy

tickets printed on graham crackers. They could have done a little more with him i think yeah but i also think in a meaner episode they would have had him cheat homer too but instead he's there with them to the happy ending like actually the show has a quite a happy ending for such a cynical era of the simpsons then uh we get the only football footage in the episode which is reused from previous episodes from saturdays of thunder the uh greatest football injuries the neck break yes okay which six years removed for that episode that animation is even more insane like you'd never matt graining would never let that kind of it really stands out yeah uh though also from homer and flanders too oh yeah that's right okay the uh the the player in white is dan the boy taylor

that's uh throwing the ball so that's where they pulled out a couple of their old football things so is that where they had the isotope on the the football helmet yes yeah that was really throwing me off it's distracting i was like okay this is a show that's ostensibly set in the nfl and yet we have this isotope helmet okay maybe they're the like arena football or something yeah sure but i do want cat to tell us about one of minnesota's finest athletes bronco nagurski oh okay well there's because it's a weird reference that mo says he's from my alma mater actually really yeah he went to university of minnesota legend of minnesota football but apparently he was discovered he was like plowing a field and and the manager was just, or the coach of the football team was like,

wow, you're gigantic. You want to play football or something? And your name is Nagurski. Your name is Bronco. I think you'll do okay. And he basically dragged people into the end zone because he was twice their size. Then he played for the Chicago Bears,

and he was also a legend there. Wow. But you didn't know that he was also a pro wrestling legend. What? Yeah. I actually knew that. Okay. An NWA champion, which was like the most famous belt in the 40s and 50s.

He beat Lou Thez, who was like the National Wrestling Alliance champion. And it's a funny thing that in the 50s and 40s and even into the 60s, football wasn't like a full-time job. You didn't make enough money to just live off it. So in the off season, when Bronco was free, he was like, well, I'll be a pro wrestler too. And it gave him tons of cred as a pro wrestler. Like this can't be fake.

The toughest guy in the NFL is wrestling here. My body isn't taking enough punishment. I think I need to add to it. Well, there is a war happening. I'll go do that for a while and see what's happening when I get back. And he lived to 81. Yeah. I can't believe it. Moe was inferring that because he didn't get bi-weeks, he died some tragic early fate, but he did fine.

He died in 1990, I think. Yeah, yeah. He lived quite a long time. This episode also taught me what bye weeks are which really yeah i didn't know about that i still don't know it's the break week for a team okay because they only play like what 30 some games uh season they play about 16 16 wow so less than 30 there's 17 weeks uh every team gets a break because oh my god you gotta have a break sometime during the season to recuperate a little bit and that that's just one week? It's just one week. Okay. There should probably be two,

actually. And then once the playoffs are won, then the two teams take a week off after that, too. Actually, what happens is if you're one of the best records, you get to take a break while everybody else is playing. So that's like a huge reward. And then you get to play at home. And often teams that get to have that. That was the thing with the Vikings was they had home field advantage. They had the break. Everything was looking good.

They're going to totally take on these Atlanta Falcons. They didn't lose at home. Are you kidding me? They totally lost at home. But yes, now the Super Bowl is coming and Wally's got some plans. We've got a charter bus going down to the game. You help us fill it.

You can ride for free. Homer Simpson at the Super Bowl? Dang, that was my last quarterback. Now what am I going to do? You. Me? Yeah, you. Get your hand off my wife's leg.

Sorry. It's a deal. Hey, Mo, you want to come with me and Wally to the Super Bowl? Oh, absolutely. My favorite team's in it. The Atlanta Falcons. Yeah, ever since I was a boy, I've always loved the Atlanta Falcons. Yeah, they're good, but I wouldn't count out the Denver Broncos. Yeah, I hear that President Clinton is going to be wadzing with his wife, Hillary.

That's the line of the episode. A lot could have changed. Who knows? That's the joke. Yes, so that's an impeachment joke, right? Yeah. And an infidelity joke. Yeah, that's a nice extra, right? Yeah. And an infidelity joke. Yeah.

That's a nice extra thing they tacked on there. I forgot that that is the third thing in that joke, and that really makes it. The fact that they're admitting to the production schedule is very funny, but then the idea of them recognizing that the president could be changed and no longer have the same wife that we know him to have. Or at the very least, yeah, they're like, well, let's keep it in there in case Clinton still has a wife. Or if it's Gore by that point, then you can just put in Tipper. That's all you got to do. But yeah, that was such a funny joke.

Like the way they all perfectly cover their mouths while they talk. All with the same, they pointed out in the commentary, I never noticed until that, that they all do it with the same mug. don't pull up their own mugs oh they have one they pass around that is like the communal your mouth communal lip sync mug uh and it's the delivery too that like you know as a viewer that they could have if they wanted to hide it they could have tried harder to make it sound like it was recorded on the same day but instead mo gives the like flattest line delivery he ever has and homer even worse it's like denver broncos the self-awareness this is a self-awareness period of the simpsons and in fact much later in

the episode they basically have john madden going none of this makes any dang sense which is my kind of least favorite type of lampooning yourself but this is a good example of self-awareness yeah they're just kind of going they know the audience is in on the joke and that's okay it works at this point they're not locked into the idea that the show will go on forever and they're just dealing with 10 years of baggage like what do we do what stories can we tell we're suffering under all this continuity uh and uh Mike scully in our new interview he's mentioned that they got hank and danda just recorded the week before and they

they stuck it in there though they could have recorded them saying every team in the afl and the other one the nfl the other one the nfc i guess AFC, NFC. They could have had them say all those lines and then plugged it in later, but they just waited until the last minute to just do the winners. But this is much funnier. It is. It is, yeah. It's also funny to me to think that Moe Sislak always loved the Atlanta Falcons since he was a kid.

Yeah, and he would have said, my favorite team, the Minnesota Vikings. He would have. Moe could have said the Minnesota Vikings. And then I could have claimed him. Okay, I don't actually want to claim Moe, have said, my favorite team, the Minnesota Vikings. He would have. Moe could have said the Minnesota Vikings. And then I could have claimed him. Okay, I don't actually want to claim Moe, but whatever. But Homer's fantasy is to go to the Super Bowl, watch one team's players all get injured, and then get yelled at for putting his hand on the coach's wife's thigh.

Also, it's Tom Landry down there. Oh, yeah. It's a Tom Landry type. Yeah. Because Homer's always fantasizing about Tom Landry for some reason. He really wanted to wear that hat because he dreamed of having sex with his wife. Like, that's the secret.

His football dream. I mean, the gag is that you're supposed to think Homer's fantasy is he's going to play in the game, which actually he already dreamed of being John Elway. That's the fantasy I thought was coming. You had that fantasy.

It was the greatest moment of your life, Homer. I like how his fantasies are getting more surreal, like the chop-chop-dig-dig one and now this one. Which, you know, the chop-chop-dig-dig, that was like unsexual, and this is unneededly sexual. They're not intentionally making Wally cogan seem like more of a loser but him being a travel agent now makes him seem also like a loser i'm like that's that's not

a job anymore people just buy their own plane tickets you know i don't know my mom still books through a travel agent but i think because she's old oh sure i don't know if i could tell her just go on to like uh priceline or whatever and find plane tickets. I see travel little agencies around the city. Really? There's nobody ever in them, so I often wonder if they're actually being used. I went to one for the first time to get my passport photo taken. I think they're like a mafia front. I think they're fronts for some.

It seemed really sketchy in there. When I walked in, like, oh, this is a real business. Yeah, I work here. The only travel agency I used was a Japanese one because it was, at the time, the only way for a Westerner to get tickets to the Ghibli Museum. They had an exclusive deal with this company. I have a travel agency horror story. Oh?

When I was in college, I went to Europe for the first time, and because it was the year 2004, I booked through a travel agency because whatever. And they totally put me in, suffice it to say, they put me in a hotel that was way too far away from the train station. So we had to go to a different hotel. And then subsequently, when I was on my long train from Amsterdam to Prague, one of the connections didn't exist because it was a Sunday. Whoa. Just disappeared.

So we arrived in Nuremberg, and they were like, oh, yeah, no, that's not how it was. So we ended up in this tiny Czech village called Cheb, and don't go to Cheb. Cheb is a very terrifying border town. We're losing all the Cheb listeners. Poor Cheb. Well, you made it out safe. Somehow. But literally, like, i'm sitting on the final train to the czech republic i'm sitting on a freaking like box car with like a door that wasn't shut

all the way it was just going and i'm like i'm gonna die i'm gonna die where their goats so if i said to say i was not super happy with that travel agent. Are they still in business? No, that travel agency is long gone. That's good. As a kid, these jokes about like, oh, you could go to the Super Bowl, that seemed crazy to me. But now as a dink, a dual income, no kids, I enjoy lots of trips like this. So just $300 to even for a bus, $300 plus Super Bowl ticket. That's crazy.

Okay, so I'm never going to go to the Super Bowl. Even if my team makes it to the Super Bowl, I cannot spend like $2,000. And that's probably on the conservative end. Yeah, that's like a bad seat. Yeah. A, football games are not that fun to sit in. And you're going to have a bad seat. There are going to be all these commercials and everything.

There is a non-zero chance your team will lose and you will have spent thousands of dollars to be completely miserable. You're going to be much happier just watching on the freaking TV. I mean, no. Never go into the Super Bowl. Ever. I've only been to like two regular football games.

They're not that fun. No, they're kind of boring. So much downtime. I feel like i just have to squint so much at all the play i'm not good at keeping track of the players either probably you're sitting in a spot where the the other the the actions on the other side and you just see some people run over and then fall over and you're like okay something happened though i i also went to one football game with my dad and and he got mad at me for watching the big screen instead of looking at the game.

I'm like, but you can see what's going on on the big screen. But he's like, I didn't pay for these tickets to have you watch the TV. Tyrannovision will tell you what to watch. My dad gave me guilt trips about a lot of things for not doing it the right way. I once stood on the sidelines of a Minnesota Vikings game, actually, and I could not see a freaking thing. So I just watched the jumbotron the entire time. But i do spend a lot of money on her trips for pro wrestling bob is true bob said to hear me tell him like i think i told you again like well this week in november we can't do something because uh then you're like it's wrestling is it is it a fun live event i've

never been to one tons of fun i've been to one live wrestling show there there are lots of fun there and they're happening more and more all the time the next the next big one in san francisco i mean uh well you don't want to spend 80 on a ticket but there's there's a japanese one coming to town real soon or yeah it's the new japan pro wrestling the best uh in-ring action in the world i dare say and so that's what i spend the money on though i did get the super bowl ish experience by going to two different wrestlemanias in football stadiums like that's the most recent time i've been in football stadiums i went to the uh santa clara one for the 49ers which is like so fancy stadium in the entire league in my mind it's a real fancy stadium it's just a giant shopping mall it's like

oh yeah it's if you go to Japan and you look up in, say, Shibuya, and you see those giant malls that are like monoliths, that's basically what that stadium is. And actually, I've been in the Luxury Box and watched a game from it. Which is basically how that stadium is built. It's meant

for the Luxury Box people. Everybody else is just a peasant, and I have no idea why they're there. Well, isn't that San Francisco in a nutshell, really? Yeah, but they really ruined the 49ers when they moved them and I'm sad. Well, hey, they're better off than the Raiders, but we'll get to them in a sec. Oh, yeah, we will.

So Homer is going to go to the Super Bowl, though, if he can get a bunch of his friends to fill up the bus. I've been on a party charter bus. It sucks. Sounds awful. Yeah, and this was just for an hour to drive party charter bus yeah this this was to go to that santa clara wrestlemania it was uh well because uh this was 2014 none of us had cars so it's like well this bar in san francisco is doing a drinking bus that'll drive you there and back to santa clara uh so we all

were like yeah let's do that and uh the bus was over an hour late they had no answers for us uh us in all of our wrestling attire got to just stand out on the curb in san francisco with a bunch of drunks coming out of the bar going like wait what you doing well well wrestling was this including like this one like this irishman came out of the bar unintelligible like a face of gin blossoms just all say like that was more of a scottish accent but believe me he was an unintelligible irishman watch out hunter he's irish. And yeah, that party bus sucked, sucked, sucked, sucked. But it was nice to just know I could get on the

bus and that takes me back home. Like, that was okay. But anyway, Homer is able to convince his friends, including Lenny, to sign up for it through some aggressive tactic. Come on, Lenny, I need four more guys to fill my Super Bowl bus. What do you say? Meh. Come on. Meh. Come on, Lenny. I need four more guys to fill my Super Bowl bust. What do you say? Meh.

Come on! Meh. Come on! Meh. Oh, come on! Meh. Yes! Now that Lenny's in, Carl will fall like a domino.

I'm so happy you're going to the big game. My dream has always been to see the Bolshoi Ballet. Yeah, yeah. Do we have any pencils that work? Wow, you've signed up quite a few people, Dad. The Sea Captain, Bumblebee Man, Comic Book Guy, the Squeaky Voice Teen. Yeah, it's a good group. I gotta hand it to you, Homer. It's really a good group.

Yeah, not a dame insight. Oh, thank God. Now we can stop holding it in. Oh. All aboard for Miami. No, I don't know if I can last that long. Super Bowl, please, and step on it. Hey, wait up. Ah, crap.

It's that pipsqueak Rudy. What is it, Rudy? Can I come too? Forget it, kid. You're too small to go to the Super Bowl. But what I like in size, I make up for in obnoxiousness. Go! Boy, I really liked Rudy Slam.

Yeah, they've been sitting on that one for a while. Someone hated Rudy. That was a Notre Dame fight song, I think. Yeah, I think so. But yeah, I mean, Rudy sucks. I don't like that movie. I never saw it, but it was a joke at our school when I was in grade school to go, Rudy, Rudy.

Because I assume they did that in the movie. Yes. Yeah. The whole thing is that he comes in. People are chanting his name, and they finally buckle and say, all right, you can go play your freaking one down or whatever. Exactly. So they let him win because they felt bad for him. Is that the story?

Yeah, totally. So you've got the shrimpy but lovable Sean Astin. He's one of the best players in his high school but even when he leaves his high school his coach is like you're never nothing's gonna happen for you you are too small you just can't do it and he goes to

Notre Dame to play the football everybody's telling him you can't do it you're just gonna be warming the bench all that stuff then he can he also there's a weird scene with the the rock or the charles dutton uh he rock he plays we know him as rock in this house roc he plays this uh this character who tells him like well i made it to the nfl but then i was too full of myself and i didn't learn my lesson which feels like they're giving him the character of like a disrespectful black soup uh football player which I don't like that character either.

Yeah, by the end of the film, he convinces everybody but the coach that he should get to play. The quarterback best friend of his gets Rudy a chance to play one down in the last game of the year because the quarterback scores another touchdown that makes it impossible that they could lose in the last down and so like fine rudy can play and he does one tackle and that's the end of the movie and that's it he's carried away they should just call it perseverance porn the movie oh totally what it is that's why they play it in school to make you uh to learn your lesson because he doesn't even get accepted into Notre Dame. He's like working in a steel mill. That's right.

And then he goes to, I think, Holy Cross or something, and he's just applying over and over and over again. He sounds like a creep. I don't like him. Riley lets him in. Now, I'm glad that now Sean Astin is more famous for Samwise, that he's not Mr. Rudy any longer. What's funny is that I watched Rudy

for the first time on a bus. Are you remembering Rudy getting kicked off this bus when you were on that bus? No. I like that the door even squishes his mouth. That's extra cruel to him. But Rudy was like a 1992 movie or something like that. It was seven years ago at that point.

Yeah, it's a real old joke. Honestly, it's a family guy joke. Like it totally is. Oh, it totally is. Having a character from a movie or a critic joke. Or a Gene and Reese joke. Yeah. True.

But I like on the commentary that they goof on what a weird line it is for Marge to say, I'm so happy you're going to the big game. Like, well, what does she she care like it's just a weird support uh overly supportive wife line it's a weird setup to just have her dreams crushed again yep yeah which they already gave us that with her with her foot pain that was something too mike scully noted in our interview is that like how he remembers they really got away with something with how much they say super bowl in this yeah if, if you go back to our episode about Lisa the Greek, I think they just say the big game over and over.

They never say Super Bowl. But maybe because Fox had it, they were allowed to say it. Maybe they figured because it was after the Super Bowl they forgot to say it. They don't use any NFL licensing. You never see the logo. They have the wrong uniform. I mean, granted, they had to just kind of predict

who would be in the winning locker room. You know, the Falcons have a red uniform. They were wearing black at the time. Okay. And they play at a generically named stadium, like the Pro Play Stadium. No, that's the real stadium. Is that the real stadium?

It's the pro players. Okay, I thought that was a joke about how they couldn't make anything up, so they just made a generic thing. I was surprised to find out it was the real location of super bowl so they knew like nine months before where the location would be oh yeah they you know where the super bowl is going to be at least a year ahead of time years before interesting okay yeah that's uh i again i only know this because wrestlemania tries to do the same thing of announcing where they're going to be over a year ahead of time and uh multiple times a wrestlemania will be at a stadium like

if there's a new stadium that wants to practice having a big event they'll welcome a wrestlemania the year before they get super bowl is like super bowl practice basically that's what uh the 49er stadium did like they did uh wrestlemania one year and the next year was the super bowl and i think i think the jerry dome was the same deal, the Cowboys' monster stadium. That has to be the most expensive stadium in America, right? One of them. And the Viking Stadium's up there, too. It was over a billion dollars, and all it does is kill birds.

The important thing is that it's tax-free. Taxpayers at least partially paid for it, and they can then pay some more with the high ticket prices. I'm a sports fan, but I have real moral issues with that. Eh, you know. Yeah, I know. Hey, look, I stopped watching WWE once their politics just became unbearable. I simply just, behind the scenes, like, not on screen,

but more that linda trump was working in the white house uh they keep going to saudi arabia all these uh wonderful things that the wwe does unfortunately every sports league is reprehensible in its own special and unique way man it's almost like money corrupts all these things uh it is uh this was the first time i think they've ever said out loud that character's name Is Squeaky Voice Teen Yeah I think you're right I think this is the first time They said it

This is them just revealing What the writers Call all these characters Though Captain McAllister Is his name He's not Sea Captain They forgot that

Yeah George Meyer was there He should have told them He just became the Sea Captain I know But like that's That's even sadder They took away his name.

He had a name. I was surprised that comic book man was there. Comic book guy. Sorry, comic book guy. Yeah, he doesn't fit in this jock party. Well, that's funny because I knew kind of a real life comic book guy. Rest in peace. And yeah, he was uber nerdy.

He was one of the nerdiest dudes I've ever met. And yet, and yet, he was a giant sports fan. Maybe even bigger than I was. That's crazy. He doesn't get any lines, though. Oh, comic book comic? Yeah. He's just there.

They're just going into the character pack. It's like every dude in Springfield, just put him on the bus. We don't care. Dr. Nick is there. Dr. Hibbert. Blue-haired lawyer. Yeah, blue-haired lawyer. I mean, there's only like 12 of them, but there's some odd picks.

Ned's there. Ned. On the deleted scenes, there's an actual joke with Hibbert and Skinner. Oh, okay. Yeah, there's a gag. Well, there's a gag that if it had stayed in and been canon, it would have asked a lot of questions about Hibbert. he played in the nfl and that he's one of the guys who uh after joe namath's injury he was a person who jumped on him after his injury which would mean that like that would put hibbert in a specific time frame as a football player like that is such a weird background to give him i'm

kind of glad they they cut that joke yeah it's an odd choice. Yeah, that's almost like how I'm thankful that they cut that joke that Apu wears a wig. Yeah. That was such an odd gag. Somebody pointed out that when everybody lets their stomach out, you can see Ned letting his stomach out, even though he's like kind of got the Adonis physique and everything. He's 60 now. He let himself go.

That Vegas trip really didn't do it for him. It's even impressive that guys like Wiggum and Barney have a gut to let out. Yeah, Wiggum has a gut and he lets out more guts. And that sound, you can hear it in the clip, the sound effect of like a reverse air letting out of a balloon as they all suck their guts back in. I really like that sound.

And so we come back from a commercial break with Mike Scully's favorite band, NRBQ. Yeah, I've come around on them. suck their guts back in i really like that sound and so we come back from a commercial break with mike scully's favorite band nrbq yeah i've come around on them i think i like them now wild weekend's a nice song well you know i think we've aged into the demographic of liking it liking dad music is that how it works uh i mean you're not even if you're not you don't have children you if you get dad age you can like dad rock dad rock. I think that's the rules. This is season 10 quite a lot, and they've really embraced party animal Homer on the bus.

He's drunker than anybody else. It's weird they get incredibly drunk, and then they all are just not drunk. I mean, it's a cartoon, and they don't need to be drunk anymore, but man, I feel like I can't hold my alcohol as much since I've gotten older. I could not get this drunk and then go to a football game.

I'd be asleep in the bus. Wait, there was a time lapse, right? I mean, it was a multi-hour bus trip. They probably ran out of beer. That's true. But then there's more beer. And then they were super hungover when they got to the Super Bowl. Wiggum has the last of the beer in the next seat.

He lifts up 96 cans with one arm. That's amazing. He's so strong. But before we get to that, we get the first of a very light Marge and Lisa story. It's so nice to have a peaceful weekend together. Yeah, I'm bored too.

Mm-hmm. Hey, why don't we do one of those craft kits Aunt Patty always gives us? Ooh! How about paint by numbers? It's so rigid and uncreative. Okay. Oh, leather craft. Oh, those poor helpless cows.

What about clay? You got any problem with clay? Hey, what's this? Vincent Price's egg magic. Wow, what are we waiting for? So yeah, this is a parody of a real thing. So there were celebrity-branded craft kits. I looked this up.

In 1975, there was an item called the Vincent Price Shrunken Head Apple Sculpture. Whoa! In which you would make little fake shrunken heads, basically dried apple doll versions of them. And you would carve an apple, you would dry it on this cone that would sit above a light in your house. Any light, usually and then uh you would make it into a shrunken head

that's awesome and he's on he's on the box that is great that is so cool that that is a way to make your own like horror prop with something as easy to get as a stupid apple it's funny though because the quote on the box of vincent price just very matter-of-fact. It's not like, these things are amazing. It's like, with this, you can make a shrunken head. And that's basically it. That's all you get out of me. I can confirm that this is a shrunken head. This is what you're buying.

Apparently, they put Vincent Price on there, though, because they liked Homer's Vincent Price impression. Dan does a really good one. I mean, I think that's why he has so many lines in this episode. Well, they also, they already brought up Vincent Price Hawkins stuff in Last Temptation of Crust. That was part of Crusty's stand-up. Oh, you're right, yeah.

I was just complaining about commercials. Yeah, the only commercial clip I could find is Vincent Price for Tylex. Is scrubbing mildew making your shower a chamber of horrors? Spray on Tylex instant mildew stain remover and mildew stains vanish with no scrubbing. Try Tylex and escape the torture of scrubbing. Wow, I like it. He sold me on Tylex. I'm going to get some Tylex now.

Man, I love his voice and that was in 1989 so not too much uh time left for old vincent price god what a wonderful voice and i think it was uh what his daughter or something confirmed he was uh by in the in recent years does it feel like the simpsons are gaslighting its audience because people didn't have wikipedia easily available at the time yeah they're kind of like he's dead isn't he isn't he dead i don't know i think i'd ask my parents well you couldn't wikipedia it then i guess you could well you'd altavista it you wouldn't google it that's true i guess that would only take you to the vincent price like web page like fan page like yes vincent did die i mean it's so easy now with wikipedia you search for the name then you see

blank either is or was so based on the second word you can know if someone is alive or dead and it happens like the minute they're confirmed like someone edits those articles the minute someone dies it's really impressive how fast people are with uh updating those things barge getting mad at lisa there really it uh that feels like the sjws are offended by everything kind of gag there i I have to say. What's funny is that she was upset about the animal products, but then they play an egg game. Lisa is a hypocrite when it comes to dairy products. Yeah, eggs and dairy.

So am I. We saw that Apu thinks she's a monster for eating cheese. Yes, I do. I also like it's fitting that the craft kits are from Aunt Patty, that they don't buy them, that they're useless craft kit junk that they'd never touch unless they're the most bored they've ever been. It's a fun joke about how those characters are boring. But I also think you can't be bored anymore. Now, there are too many things to do at any given time. So the search for something to do is now just not going to happen anymore.

Lisa is not a boring character. She is anti-boring to me. Yeah. But I guess they were trying to pick the most boring activity that they possibly could for them.

Like, I think they said as much. It was like the most exciting, like, oh, Super Bowl, all these exciting guest stars, then also Lisa and Marge doing a boring craft at home. Also the juxtaposition. Yeah.

And one of the pieces is missing and it's never resolved. And also, Vincent Price did play Egghead on Batman 66. the juxtaposition yeah and one of the pieces is missing it's never resolved uh and also vincent price did play egghead on batman 66 what was his story what uh who is egghead is that like an original creation or i think no i think he was in the comics first but like he's basically never used he's just he's he as far as i recall he's a bald supervillain he's just like the irregular crime lord he didn't have much theming to him unlike say mr freeze or even king tut that guy had more stuff yeah but that i mean when batman 66 was big it was like the simpsons in that every big time guest star they

wanted to be cool and be on the coolest show on tv and so that's how they got all these famous people to be one-off guest stars and vincent price is one of the most famous uh one-off villains they had on the show i think uh but yes we come back to the party bus we've got wigum uh threatening to kill people over the 96 beer cans uh and the great joke that lovejoy's collar is like the holding up all of his clothes. Try it. And then they arrive at the very realistically designed pro player stadium. It looks just like it. They could have gotten more jokes out of that bus driver.

I like her design. It looks like she's an attractive lady who's seen some shit. On that bus. Yeah. I can't have too much screen time for women in this episode. Well, Act 3 opens with a lot of women. Yeah, yeah. We can't have too much screen time for women in this episode. Well, Act 3 opens with a lot of women. Oh, yeah. But I do like the gag that they apparently were just going in a corner in the back of the bus.

What bathroom? And they just leave her with it, too. Ew, God. Yes. So we get our string of NFL guest stars as they arrive at Super Bowl City. Okay, fellas, enjoy the pregame fun. I don't want to be a panicky Pete, but it's Sunday and I haven't been to church yet. No problem.

The NFL's got you covered. And that the wandering Oakland Raiders may someday find a home. Lord, hear our prayer. Can I get an amen to that? Amen. Cool, the NFL's oldest surviving player. I'm 53 years young. Hey, Troy Aikman.

So, Ned, you like dune buggies? Well, not my cup of... Sure you do. Everyone likes dune buggies. That's a good joke. I have to give Troy Aikman one of football's famous red cards as a penalty because this is the same joke as everyone loves roller skating from Lisa the Beauty Queen. Oh, yeah, it's the same joke.

You like roller skating, little girl? No, everyone loves roller skating and he draws a roller skating. Sounds like George Meyer, somebody else pitched you a joke that he pitched in season four and forgot about it. Maybe he forgot. I would say George Meyer. Let's blame him. Well, he's one of the few guys in the writer's room who were both those years. But Rosie Greer has a very interesting life. Oh, wait, I gotta

play the anti-death team. Oh, okay. He's 87. Yipes. 87 still with us. James Butcher, I ain't dead yet. I didn't know he was present for the assassination of bobby kennedy and tackled sirhan sirhan a little too late rosie but yeah what kind of penalty would that be in football not not tackling it makes sense wasn't that in la where it happened rosie greer played for the nla team i think the rams i believe it was yeah he's well

and that is why he was uh as an la player he guest starred in a hundred television shows in the 70s like his he's got to be one of the only people who guest starred on the simpsons and kojak whoa yeah he was on that he was on quincy he was onat. He was on all of these shows in the 70s. Sounds like a regular O.J. Simpson. Just as lovable. His career was becoming a Protestant minister, though, instead of a killer. Is that really a career? You know, O.J. made a killing off of it.

Oh, God, sorry. It was more of an odd job than a career for him. But yeah, Rosie Greer still with us at 87, which that's also funny that they do a joke that a football player, the oldest one, would be 53 because Rosie was 67 when that joke happened. That's weird. But we all knew, but it just goes to show

that even in 1999, when we didn't really care about concussions, we all knew what football was actually doing to people oh yeah let them have sex workers they're not gonna live long that joke about the raiders is more uh true today than ever like he's he's joking about the la raiders era and then moving back up to oakland by 99 i would assume and now they're really going through something a cat i will spare a kind word for the Oakland Raiders. First of all, their stadium is one of the last that is A, affordable and has an actual atmosphere,

and B, they're owned by an actual family. And he is a weird, weird... Mark Davis is one of the weirdest motherfuckers. Oh, that guy. Connor Lestoka told us to look him up. He's like such a bail son it's hilarious oh boy but he's by far the quote-unquote poorest owner it's just the raiders are just a family business right yeah well and they're moving to vegas they're going to the perfect place for him

it's uh it's crazy there's never been a vegas nfl team until now most most cities are like kind of mad when their team left like if the vikings left i think that minnesota would burn down but everybody's kind of be glad kind of glad to be right rid of the raiders at this point yeah the well what the raiders haven't won a super bowl since man's day right oh since the 1980s yeah okay they were in the super bowl in 2002 and famously that was the one where john gruden went from the raiders over to the Buccaneers. So it was the Pirate Bowl. That's right.

They didn't bother to change their playbook, so John Gruden knew every single one of the plays. So the Raiders just got completely destroyed. He had the cheat codes for that game. Yeah, Vegas is building a new stadium for them there, too. Publicly financed stadium. Well done, too. Publicly financed stadium. Well done, Mark Davis. You got your stadium. Was he holding out for Oakland to buy him a new stadium?

No, he was trying to move down to L.A. again, which is where the Raiders are actually the most popular. L.A. likes the Raiders better than the Rams or the Chargers. But he got totally frozen out. Oh, damn. And the Chargers ended up going instead. And so he ended up moving to Las Vegas. And frankly, I think he's getting a better deal

because he would have just been the Rams' tenant. Well, yeah, what? He would have been trading days with or trading... They would have shared the same stadium. Yeah. So it would have been the Jets-Giants kind of situation. Yeah, that's lame. I mean, that's lame enough with the Jets and the Giants.

Yeah. And meanwhile, the LA Chargers, quote-unquote, are playing in a freaking soccer stadium right now and are just basically humiliating every single game. It's hilarious. The Raiders, yeah, they have such a history with LA because NWA and the cool gangsta culture of the time, that was the coolest the Raiders

ever were. Yeah, everybody still loves the Raiders down there. Now they're Vegas' problem. They will be in 2020. That's Arby's problem now. I am sad for Oakland losing. They are losing the Warriors, and then they're losing

the Raiders too. That is sad, but what they really need is an MLS team. Oakland Roots, let's go. Is that a team? They just started. Oh, well, hey. They have some of the best merch. You should go check it out. I love the Oakland Roots stuff. Alright, I can get on the ground floor of this fandom here. There you go. It's important to be

first. That's all that matters. Their numbers are rainbow. It's very nice. Oh, that is nice. I like that. Troy Aikman and Dan marino both in jokes here they they were still active players i think their last season was too or they ended in 2000 the next year so yeah dan marino had a pretty bad end actually because he played in a playoff game the following year and just got annihilated it was like 50 to 3 or something and that that was the game that sent him into

retirement and they were making the joke about how tamarino's arm is like needing to be iced yeah he was at that point oh yeah why it's all satchel mill's fault i love the joke that they are making these top of the line like the most famous quarterbacks who there are like you you can't be throwing passes all day because you fuck up your arm. That's why pitchers don't pitch all day in baseball. Like, yeah, and of course, comedy nerds will know Dan Marino for his turn in the hilariously transphobic Ace Ventura. We need a new ending. Yeah, just film a new ending.

Yeah, just make a CGI ending of it. That's all you need. But yes, Dan Marino gets to meet uh homer and bartz man that hurts excuse me coming through friends of dan marino okay dan fire away i'm dan's manager this is dan go long son yes sir Yes, sir. I'm catching a pass from Dan Marino. This is the greatest moment of my life. Homer Simpson with a pick.

Hey, Bubba, Hacksaw, get that moron. Uh-oh. Lateral to bark. My spine. Despite being so out of shape, Homer can teleport in front of Bart to intercept that pass. It's like a Dragon Ball Z move. Yeah, wow. I can't see him anymore. Oh, my gosh.

He was pretty fast there. Yeah, you're right. I missed that. I love the design on those tackle guys, whatever position that would be. The tacklers. That ball had a lot of hang time, so even somebody as slow as Homer could probably get in front of it.

It's a rare time in this episode, especially Homer is mean to a family member and then he is punished for it instead of his usual just cruelty that then nobody comments on. That My Spine thing, it feels like it was added. Oh, yeah.

Homer wasn't hurt enough. Let's paralyze Homer. So they just replayed the bit of his legs moving when they fell play it a second time and it's uh his his spine severing seemingly and but but he's okay in the next scene folks he's okay uh and so yes we head back home uh for Marge and Lisa. They are building their eggs. Their egg magic is happening, making some cute eggs. But they come to a shocking realization. Lisa, I don't want to alarm you, but I'm not finding any. But it clearly says feet included. They have to be here.

No, nothing. I can't believe Vincent Price would lend his name to such a shoddy product. Now what do we do? Let's call the company. Mom, this was made in 1967. They're probably out of business. Well, we'll just see. Murray Hill, 5-9-2-3-2.

Hello, this is Vincent Price. It's Vincent Price. I thought he was dead. You should know the grave could never tame me. Mr. Price, I loved you in the Abominable Dock. If you are calling about the missing feet, leave your address, and the replacement feet will be rushed to you by my grandson, Jody. And now I must return to the sweet embrace of the crypt.

But I'll be back. So is he alive or not? 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield, Ohio, Maude. Come on in. I love that. Springfield, Ohio, Maude. Great. They are still playing around

with the fake out of where Springfield is. And Maude is so close to death. She doesn't even know it. This poor fool Maude making her cupcakes, bringing them over. I like that they're keeping all the ladies together, though. Maude. They're being segregated. But yes, I know the pain of finding no feet. The equivalent of a no feet in a thing you purchase of like a delivery from Uber Eats or whatever.

And like, hey, the fries are not here or something like that. I think of that as my egg feet being missing. Yeah, like you've said before, Bob, Lisa in these years, her job is to point out when things don't make sense. Yeah, to question the plot and then to be told to shut up. Yeah in this case she's like so is he dead or what yeah like where's this plot going it's a very similar moment to uh in the two mystos and pima pedalons when she's like does she live here or what yeah that's uh i mean at least it gives lisa more to do than just be a nag like in other scenes she usually, it's her and Marge are like nag and nag junior

is basically the rule of roles. But yeah, that's Dan Castellaneta's imitation is really good. I also like that Marge has a favorite Vincent Price film. Yeah,

that's more to her character. Is it the abominable Dr. Fibes? I think that's what she was saying. I've never seen that one. I haven't either. But his house

on Haunted Hill, he's really good in that i though i've only seen the riff tracks version same here but he's good in it oh he's great uh so uh we head back to miami they're trying to get in and they uh they spot a scalper on their way into the big game who needs tickets tickets right here how about you slick scalpy tickets to the Super Bowl. Have you no shame, sir? I should give you a royal caning. Yeah, yeah, China, we're good. Hey, I'm just trying to make an honest buck.

Oh, get lost, you blood-sucking parasite. Wally and I have all the tickets we need. Uh, sorry, fellas, but these tickets are counterfeit. What? Counterfeit? Yeah, see, the hologram's missing, and there's no such team as the Spungos, and finally, these seem to be printed on some sort of cracker. Stop eating our tickets! Oh, how could I fall for fake tickets? Gee, the fellas are gonna be crestfallen. Yes, if by crestfallen you mean kill us. Listen, let me talk to them.

Maybe I can smooth this over. My friends. They don't have the ticket! Kill them! My friends! Ow! All right, I'll get you into the game! They're drunk and angry.

Yeah. That's what you get for buying your tickets on Craigslist. See, again, Wally really fails him there. That's a real Gil move. He's not as desperate or as stupid as Gil, though. But, I mean... Apparently, he does other things very well, just not this.

He bought crackers instead of tickets. Yeah. He seems more confident than that, though. I love Homer. Stop eating our tickets. I think he's just too trustworthy. It's established in the first scene that he was talked into getting this full package just after asking to use the phone at the car place.

That's true. Maybe he's just too trusting of people. Scalping was seen as a real shady thing in the late 90s, but now you just have entire giant companies as a secondary market. Seat Geek and StubHub and such like that. It was a real throwback to go to PAX West this year and see regular scalpers offering to buy and sell things. If you go to an actual game,

you'll always see the person with the sign saying, Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. I see those around wrestling events too, which I'd never call them bloodsuckers. They're just trying to make it buck just like the rest of us that's that's all i say i mean especially like i've sold uh things at a profit on those secondary market apps and whatnot uh this episode the most egregious adr of this episode is his is the the flungos or whatever oh no i was gonna say the what do you call the fake team again? The Spungos.

Spungos, yeah. I almost said Spumco. Yeah, I was thinking Spumco. But no, I was thinking the ADR where the scalper says, you'll just hurt me like all the others. Like what Homer before that says, have I told you lately that I love you? All the mouth stuff is just awful.

Yeah, you're right about that. I wonder what the original thing was too. It also really stands out because I think the scalpers voice changed. I think by the time they did the ADR, Hank was kind of out of where he was before with the voice. But they can't get the tickets. They then devise a clever scheme with the halftime show uniforms, which is- I love that. Use them to slam into the security guards and run past them.

I love that use them to slam into the security guards to run past them i love that it's uh also of a piece with in viva ned flanders the uh the janitors they tried to knock out and failed to do so just there's some i love all of the jokes about escaping or infiltrating that are subverted uh it goes all the way back to bart jumping into the laundry uh cart at the crusty lou studios and then immediately jumping back out or the box factory jumping back out and then walking out the door. All those jokes. And in the future, the one where Homer is hiding in the costume shop to buy a costume and get out.

But they try to get tickets. They fail. And we get another quick little clip here that the real comedy is in the editing, I think. We can still make the kickoff! Here comes the kick!

Ow! As a doctor, I'd say he's had enough. But as a football fan... See, Homer should have gone into the loading dock. Because there's actually a really good video of people sneaking into the Super Bowl in the Superdome when it was in New Orleans. Oh, really? In the loading area? It's totally a thing that you can do. You just have to look really confident and just go in through one of the loading areas.

Just look like you belong there. You can totally make it all the way through. Especially if you're a white guy. You just go like, I'm supposed to be here. People just let you walk right in there. Football inspector. But yeah, the cut from them thinking they were going to get in there and then saying they were seeing the kickoff and it's really them kicking Homer in the junk.

And then, man, the cut on Homer screaming the second kick, that's a really good editing gag. There's a Twitter account I see reposted all the time called Perfectly Timed Screams, and it always cuts when the scream is in mid-scream or just about to start, like this cut. It's a good cut. Yeah, yeah.

When I saw them in the little detention cell, I always think about people who are dumb enough to actually get thrown into one of those things. Apparently in the old Philadelphia Eagles stadium they actually had a judge there who was just on site. A football judge? Yeah, because everybody was drunk and rowdy and always getting into fights. In Philly?

Yeah, so they always had to bring them in front of the judge right there. There's like a legal system in the basement of the stadium. Man, you know that's an 80s sitcom. Night Court, but for football. Oh, man. There's only so many Hooligan stories that you can

tell, though. I think you get at least three seasons out of that, I think. That would be okay if it were in England, and then you just made it a Hooligan show. And then you would have a magistrate. And you'd only need to make six episodes a season, too.

Or a series, I should say. I think Bull should be the judge on this show. It's Bull's spin-off. Yeah. Bull finally becomes the judge he always wanted. He comes back from his home planet and then becomes a sports judge. I forgot.

I forgot that was Bulls. Talking about the Nyquist grade. So we come back from the break and we get one of the sexiest moments in Simpsons history and one of the most controversial as well. As Mike Scully and Vision did, it's a joke about how commercials during the Super Bowl are so weird and then at the end

you go like what was this an ad for like all these very strange commercials and there were there was a doritos commercial with ali landry in this in 1999 that was very actually kind of similar to this just like a bunch of sex and it's like a product here you go and so those the 3d doritos uh yes yeah the sean hayes was in the commercial of as well yeah the classic classic commercial where they're at the laundromat those did not catch on those aren't the clear pepsi of 99 what's funny is i don't think of super bowl commercials as sexy usually i think of them as really awkward and kind of cringy they don't sex it up as much these days i I mean, Go Daddy, those were the sexy ones. They're all just there trying to get a laugh out of you.

Or get you nostalgic. One of those two. Yeah, it's funny. The Budweiser ones, they come in so many different flavors. Because they want the Bud Light ones to be gross and funny. But then the classic Clydesdale ones, they want you to like be like in griefful sadness like they they had one set to landslide which I was like why is why is Budweiser trying to make me cry I see like the prototypical Super Bowl commercial is that Budweiser commercial from

last year where all of a sudden they're in Game of Thrones and they're also advertising the new Game of Thrones season that was the weirdest fucking ad. You know, they take a normal ad and then they just keep expanding and expanding and expanding it. Or like that old

Lipton Ice Tea one where the puppets all of a sudden start rebelling and killing everybody. Oh, yeah. That's right. I think other than

that Budweiser one, I don't, that Game of Thrones one, I don't remember anyone from going viral from this year. It's the product of a bunch of people sitting in a room going,

okay, this company spent $2 million for this spot, and we have a $30 million budget. What are we going to do with all this money? To spend on 30 seconds. And you have to think of how to counter-program

what everybody else is going to do, though, too, so you stand out. So, yeah. That's why, I mean mean the budweiser frogs just frogs saying budweiser like that that was very eye-catching when all these other uh companies were having like giant things where uh michael jordan was doing a basically a game of horse with larry bird remember those ones yeah it's non-sportos do you actually watch the commercials or do you

just avoid the super bowl entirely i don't watch anything for, do you actually watch the commercials, or do you just avoid the Super Bowl entirely? I don't watch anything. For a time, I would watch the commercials just to be—I'd watch the game to be part of the conversation. But since I cut the cord, I'm like, I don't even care to do this. See, I prefer that people like you guys just go away. I'm watching my damn game. Don't tell me about how you only like the commercials. It's not to entertain me. Well, tell me about how you only like the commercials it's not to entertain me well i mean i don't like the commercials i mean the but i liked being part

of the office conversation but now i don't have an office anymore uh see bob he doesn't even think that he has an office anymore well what's this water cooler for then uh that's a refrigerator okay that's what you call it uh but yes the the commercial we're talking about in the simpsons though is uh for the catholic church we've made a few changes uh which is like one of the sexiest commercial sexiest scenes i've ever done the simpsons you don't need to tell animators twice to be horny uh and so yeah they uh with the most in you went to my favorite is the the third girl who like moves like waggles her eyebrows a couple times like yeah when she puts the uh gas thing in the in the car yeah gas pump yeah gas pump the zoom in on the cleavage that reveals

the crucifix like that that is a great gag and it's uh it's all set to zz tops legs it's like 30 catholic church scandals ago though yeah yeah well so uh what happened was this aired and uh the catholic league who mainly get mad at things that can get them publicity they also got mad at like no one's going catholic yep that was that was their preamble to their real rage over this uh but also the catholic league is just, it's a group of people who are Catholic. It is not affiliated with the church, even. Like, it's just, and again, these Catholics had a lot more things they should have been worried about. Yeah.

Than what the Simpsons did. There's a very funny but mean comment on the commentary where they say, like, they're trying to get the priest to watch this commercial now oh god that's right but yeah that's matt selman probably oh that sounds like a selman comment yeah fox got a bunch of negative complaints about it and uh much to mike scully's chagrin he didn't want to cut anything and he was very angry about it at the time and ultimately they didn't change it to it they thought of changing it to a different church. Fox had suggested that because it was just the Catholics that were banned. So if it was the Presbyterian Church, fine or whatever. But he wouldn't do that.

So instead, they just edit out the word Catholic and just like the church. Yeah. And on the recording of the commentary, they're not sure if that line would make it onto the dvd because mike scully was like the version i watched last night did not have catholic in it but on the dvd it does say the catholic church i'm really glad that you know if it was scully pushing them to make sure it was that version on the dvds i'm glad he did uh but yeah that was uh it's quite a scene in simpsons history that one and uh shockingly one of their most like the things they got letters for more than most. And they said that, like,

they got people writing in these things that definitely felt like a form of just, like, my family loves The Simpsons. And much to my surprise, I sat down and saw it that night, and there was this blasphemous joke. I mean, think about all the people who were watching right after the Super Bowl.

Yeah, yeah. They probably had their best ratings in years. And so it was lots of people going, oh, I am scandalized. Simpsons, eh? And then after that sexy fun, we then get two more guest stars, which it's time for a double jingle. Oh, boy. First, the anti-death jingle for the still-with-us John Madden. Jim Pudgert, I ain't dead yet!

And the death jingle for Pat Summerall. Death stalks you at every turn! There it is! Death! Who were both in the previous Family Guy episode, but not as their own voices. Yes, yeah. It hurt that Family Guy episode even more that they had John Madden and Pat Summerall doing similar jokes to what they're doing in this, but it's not them. Yeah, but hearing them talk about their telestrator and that it was the most exciting quarter they've ever seen, which that was not how it was in real life for Super Bowl XXXIII, was it?

No, it was a total blowout that's why like their ratings probably would have been a lot better if it hadn't been a blowout like people do tune out of the super bowl if it's uh if the ending is very clear but yes they were able to get pat and uh man who i believe were still doing the they hosted the super bowl that year they were doing the super bowl for several more years. Yeah. They're commentating anyway. I mean, they still have Howie Long and James Brown, the football James Brown. What I can't believe is they've had the same freaking studio crew for 20 years. Wow.

Terry Bradshaw was around when I started watching football. He's still there. It's pretty amazing. He's getting decrepit, though. I mean, yeah, I'm surprised he's still on there because he's been like decrepit though i mean he's uh yeah i was i'm surprised he's still on there because he's been he's been open about his mental health struggles oh that's right wow okay he's gone through a lot of depression which i'm certain you know uh is is many concussions he suffered in his career don't help with uh so then we cut from the commentary on the game but no gameplay being shown back to their cell and that's where Wiggum cracks his skull on the bars.

That's a funny, you know where it's going, but I like how long they make you wait for it. Apparently there's like a phony bar in each of his jail cells. Yes, yeah. And just, well, by process of elimination, it must be this one, and I'm not going to test it. One so is All Hope Seems Lost. They have an arrival of a living angel, who I'm also going to play the anti-death jingle for. I ain't dead yet! The amazing, the spectacular, the wonderful Dolly Parton.

Cleaning lady, would you let us out of here? Me? I'm Dolly Parton. I didn't ask would you let us out of here? Me? I'm Dolly Parton. I didn't ask for your life story. Just give me the key. Young man, where I come from, the South, folks say please. And besides, I gotta go sing a medley with Rob Lowe and Stump. Dolly, wait! Wally? You know Dolly Parton?

Yeah, I book a lot of package tours to Dollywood and Euro Dollywood. That's in Alabama. Wally Cogan, what are you doing in Super Bowl Jail? Ask her if she'll go out with me. We had a little ticket snafu. Do you think you can bust old Wally and his pals out of the pokey? Well, I do have some of my extra strength makeup remover. Shield your eyes. Thanks, Miss Parton. Oh, way to go, darling. Thanks, baby. You go out with me?

Oh, look at the time. I better scoot to that halftime show. See ya! That's the best part. She puts on the Snoopy head. Man, it's gonna be some show. Who's ready for some football? Football! Football!

So she's playing Snoopy with a jetpack. Before or after? Is the reveal she takes off the Snoopy head and it's Dolly underneath? I guess so, yeah. That has to be it. I mean, it'd be even funnier that the NFL would hire Dolly Parton to play Snoopy and not be herself. Though it still bugs me that Snoopy colors are off on that. I think they're legally off.

Yeah, that makes sense. I guess Dolly didn't go to the Krusty Comeback special. No, no. And she has not performed at a Super Bowl yet, right? I checked. Okay. Nothing came up. No, I believe that.

That's surprising, though. She seems perfect for a halftime show. In the last 50 years, it's shocking she not once did one. I feel like this year's Super Bowl is really lame. I forget exactly who it was, but they're usually lame. Mumford and his sons. Well, nobody's a famous star anymore. There's not rock stars anymore.

They had Beyonce one year. Doing her famous anti-cop dance. I've seen it. Yeah, she was telling people to rise up against cops through that dancing. I feel like the entire internet stopped for that half-time show, so. Yeah, it's true. And people really like the Lady Gaga one. Oh, you know, next year it is J-Lo and Shakira.

So just digging up 90 stars? I take it all back shakira's amazing uh hey j-lo's pretty great too you know sure oh yeah maroon five not mumford and sus just as boring and they were joined by uh rappers big boy and travis scott as guests no opinion that doesn't compare to miss dolly pardon that got Euro Dollywood, I love that joke. That's an Alabama. And also the great gag about her makeup remover. And I think there's some cleverness

to her line, too, like, where I come from, the South, just in case you didn't know. We reward courage. And then we have the Blur's song number two, just to let us know it's 1999. That's a great gag of an overused song use very much stadium rock yeah yeah which uh that i i think the i saw a very clever joke uh with an overused song recently where they they used the fight song the this is my

fight song oh yeah it was used in a very clever way in the show berry it was very funny and they they paid for the real song which we even made it better uh but yes they uh the guys then just kind of run in circles as that's a great gag too that you're getting this fun edited together running sequence to blur but it's actually to nowhere but they've been running for an hour missing all of the game that is why the game is over once they get downstairs like the game i mean how long does a football game normally run like two three hours like four or five hours it's crazy and then like three hours of pre-game show as well all right uh but the uh homer and the gang they head upstairs to a suite that is full of amazing stuff i mean i've uh you

you mentioned you got to go to one of those suites i i i have as well yeah i i have as well for wrestling uh events for wrestling video games i've gotten to do it at the both of you paid and bought and sold uh no but yeah i got to do it at the staple center in manson square garden and something about being in one of the skyboxes makes those hot dogs taste better i'm like oh man free hot dogs because you're eating them with the mouth of a rich person they just give you the crappiest stadium food i went i was in the press or not the press box the luxury box in the target field the minnesota twin stadium and i actually went out into the concourse and got the food there because it was the local you know delis and everything versus whatever the crap they had in there just like drinking stella

stella artois yeah away with the swill uh that's uh that's budweiser's brand uh that makes you think it's fancy uh though i mean it's uh it's light enough for me i'm not i the lighter the beer the better i i don't my least favorite thing about beer is how much it tastes like beer there is good tasting beer. It's not called Stella, though. I do feel like a real rube of like, Gorsh, look at that, the TV and everything. Yeah, well, that's all the guys start pigging out. I wonder, too, if that's based on the writers going to any Fox event

and just going straight for all the food and ignoring everything. Then the beer copter arrives. I think I didn't do it because i felt it would be too rude to do a hope for death pro death jingle but uh yes we have rupert murdoch who sadly is still with us at 88 years old uh the the owner of news corp who this was as the fox news behemoth was rising though he was not known not known for that as much. And this was before the phone hacking thing. It was just a couple of years before Fox News. It just started a couple of years before.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it wasn't. I mean, it was 9-11 that made Fox News really what it was. It wasn't telling President Grandpa what to do yet. Well, he paid cable providers to put Fox News on. I mean, it was a loss leader for the Republican Party. That's what it is like and shocking to me that fox news just gets to exist after it was like shown that almost countless sexual assaults happen there like it is a is a crime scene that's it's not a it's not a

news organization or a propaganda wing well if you have enough money you can get away with i know but it's like i'm waiting for that margot robbie movie about it i mean he should be in jail for the phone hacking thing yeah too yeah yeah i mean soon he'll be in jail underground in a coffin i wish you know the at least roger ailes see he got a quick death well not a quick death but quick after he got exposed but yeah it's just it's crazy that fox news just got to keep being a thing and that and in fact is more of a thing than ever like this joke about rupert murdoch as the owner of homer and him meeting homer it doesn't work anymore he doesn't own homer the murdoch family divested themselves of all of 20th century fox and all their fiction stuff they just want fox to be about news and sports now and

that's that's all they're about and previously we we've seen Rupert in Jail with Sideshow Bob. Yes, yeah. In Last Gleaming. Yeah, yeah. Though not voiced by Rupert Murdoch. Yeah, it was Dan. And he'll also appear in the Jeebus episode in the future. Though, again, not voiced by Murdoch.

So they actually got Murdoch to do this role. Mm-hmm. And have himself call himself a tyrant. Yes, yeah. Scully told us all about him coming in to record. Scully said he was 10 minutes late, and then he joked with him that, man, I give you five more minutes, and then I'm walking, pal. And then Rupert did not laugh. I'm not used to being joked at.

I'm used to being feared. But yes, Rupert does come off as uh a good sport or whatever but again like i mean he's he's a fucking billionaire what's he care you know yes why don't we hear from that billionaire tyrant what the bloody hell hit the road grams this is a private skybox i'm river murdoch the billionaire tyrant and this is my skybox if you're rupert Murdoch, the billionaire tyrant, and this is my skybox. If you're Rupert Murdoch, prove it. I'm Rupert! Uh-oh.

Well, I'm convinced. Tell you what, Mr. Murdoch, let's just split the difference. The boys and I will just crouch here quietly and take it easy on the snares. Silence! Seize them. So he came all the way out there to record like eight words. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Including the great reading, what the bloody hell.

Didn't it include the oi, oi, oi, oi, oi? No, I thought it was funny enough to end with the, like there's the runaway oh yeah yeah classic shep noise scooby-doo ripped it off from shep uh they but they if this was a cartoonier episode they would have shown their legs uh bongoing in place but yeah the cops the cops look drawn to be american cops but then when they do all the ois are they supposed to be australian cops then that's weird yeah because well the way they're hitting their clubs together it feels more like a the stereotype of a british uh police officer but they're not wearing those stupid

dome hats that british uh the bobbies so i don't know aussies could you weigh in do those look like australian cops there uh but yes they they uh run away once more they miss all the game uh and but they think they've almost made it to the playing field but then the game's over and uh the denver broncos in red they run out and uh and push them all to the that's nice they barely even see the field what's funny is that the broncos were wearing blue at the time oh yes yeah i mean that's the they just guessed they're like the team will wear. Yes, yeah. I mean, that's the, they just guessed. They were like, ah, the team will wear red. Just draw it.

It was red with the blood of the opposing team. And so I got to say that one, the flattest joke in this episode is a makes me look fat joke. Yeah, it's a hack line. It's like a taste like chicken joke. Exactly, yeah, yeah. And that's the one gag you have,

just a reporter saying, does this make me look fat? It just feels kind of empty. chicken joke exactly yeah yeah and that's that's the one gag you have just reported saying does this make me look fat it just feels kind of empty but yes the the winning team is very accepting accepting of strangers in their locker room though as you pointed out cat it's because he's the owner of the denver broncos they recognize homer uh but yes the team and the springfieldians celebrate i can't believe it we're actually in the winning locker room! Woo! I'm going to Disneyland! Really? Because I'm a travel agent and I've heard nothing but

bad things. Ah! Ah! Ah! Hello? Hello, this is President Clinton. Hey, how you doing? You know, your determination and grit under extreme pressure are an inspiration.

The whole country is proud of you. Well, it's about time. And on behalf of America, I'd like to... Ow! All right, Lovejoy. You're going to get it. Hello? Hello?

I command you to answer me. Hello? Oh, Al, do you have to do that right now? So that would have been Phil Hartman, I'm guessing. Oh, shit, you're right. That's Harry Shearer, right? I believe that is, yeah. Which is, he's good at it, but yes, boy.

He did, yeah, Bill was last seen in the Treehouse of Horror where he gets kidnapped in 1996. I can't believe The Simpsons predicted Al Gore being elected in 2000. It's a very animated Al Gore. He's got that big smile. Nothing like the celebrate Al Gore. I will. Yeah, it was quite assumptive.

I mean, the joke could be read is that he thinks he's about to be impeached and he'll be president for that reason. But also, yes, he knows he's running for president soon. I think we have the same brain sickness that we had with Obama. It's like, oh yeah, Democrats are going to run the country forever.

This is how it works now. Just how it is. Nothing could ever change that. I make no more assumptions anymore. Yeah. But apparently it started as a tradition in the 1970s that the president calls the winning football team oh i didn't know this was a real thing i don't know if it is still

consistent to this day but i mean it's not just that the president like receives the winning team or whatever at the white house but also you you get a call from the president too that's because i mean the nfl it's america's game that's it's the most american of sports also that uh i love the i'm going to disneyland joke especially like homer nods in agreement that it's a bad that disneyland is awful which is only funnier now that he's a disney character so wally's a bad travel agent yes yeah although those trips to dollywood were uh dolly parton stands behind them he's a good friend of dolly Parton. You know, maybe he's doing that only to send people to Dollywood. He's like, no, no, it's bad.

You got to go to Dollywood. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Though the real line is not I'm going to Disneyland. It's I'm going to Disney World. The MVP has been going to Disney World since 1987.

Disney spends a shitload of money. As soon as the, I believe it usually of money as soon as the i believe it usually goes as soon as the mvp is named disney gets a camera up in that motherfucker's face say it and it's like say it right now and then they cut if they put it in a commercial like instantly he's like okay he recorded he said okay put it in the commercial i'm going to disneyland when you wish upon a star and then he'll'll host... But it's Disney World. Disney World. I even missaid it there. But yes, he goes to world.

I'd go to land. And it can result in hilarious photographs subsequently. Giant men being handed cotton candy by Goofy. Well, Eli Manning went one year, and Eli Manning is hilarious anyway, because he just looks like a complete dork. There's a great photo of him standing on the beach looking like a total schlub holding a tiny little bucket and i

have no idea why so so it's seeing him do a little vacation photographs in disney world is pretty great i know when i go to disneyland though we know scary football players there you could push me around they're all the way in or. Yeah. So they stay far away. We come to the end of the episode. First off, we have the characters all reflecting on their Super Bowl success, including getting Super Bowl rings. Were they stolen?

I guess so. Yeah. But so they now all have, just imagine every person who's on that bus has a Super Bowl 33 ring, championship ring. All of them have it now. I just want to point out that you don't get the damn Super Bowl ring until the following season. Oh, they make you wait that long?

They have to smelt them. Well, first of all, they have to design them because you don't know. You're not going to just commission a ring before. The owner commissions the ring. You're not going to commission commission a ring before, like, the owner commissions the ring. You're not going to commission it not knowing whether or not you win. They have to measure your mangled football fingers. And then after that, they have a big ceremony at the beginning of the season where they do the banner and they hand out the ring and everything. They're wed to the football, the giant football.

Oh, man, remember the Super Bowl ring story in the King of the Hill? Yeah. That was a good episode. Became evidence. But, yes, let's hear everybody's celebration after the Super Bowl. What are you going to do with your Super Bowl ring, Carl? I'll probably give it to my wife. It's our anniversary today.

Dad, that doesn't belong to you. But this might be my last chance to win one. Well, we sure put together a heck of a trip, Homer. Ever thought about being a travel agent? Wally, I'd be lying if I said I hadn't. Because you can really go places in the travel business. Feel free to use that one. Wet one.

I heard Gil totally doing the... Yeah. That is very Gil, too. He's like a low energy, like a lower desperation Gil, Wally. Maybe they originally wrote this for Gil, and then like, if we can get a celebrity, we'll make it another guy. That could have even just been the ending anyway of just like a cheesy one-liner that Homer wants to be a travel agent. This is going to give him his next job. Cut to black.

Also, Carl is married? I guess so. Or, well, maybe not anymore after this. When he got home, he's told that she wants a divorce. I mean, that is a great line that he reveals. He's there on their anniversary, and everybody thinks that's so cute that he's going to give it to her. And, yeah, that's the Elway reference where he says,

it might be my last chance to win one while holding the Super Bowl trophy. Which, I mean, that doesn't go to the player. It goes to the owner, right? Well, the player gets to hold it at some point. Sure, sure. Though it's still, I mean, it's still crazy to me to see it at the end of every Super Bowl.

They're like, now for an old man in a suit to come out and hold this championship. It's mine. It's presented to the owner. Like the players don't even really get to, ultimately it goes to the owner. Hey, they paid for it.

And isn't that more important than being a good football player? But yes, the true ending of the episode comes with our guests, John and Pat. Well, John, what did you think

of tonight's episode? I loved it. The last-minute addition of Wally Cogan to the lineup was a bit of a gamble, but it really paid off. Marge and Lisa painting eggs? Did that work for you? Oh, big time. They came off the bench with a huge effort

that allowed Homer and Bart to make some significant gains. Did it strike you as odd that in a Super Bowl show with Dolly Parton we didn't see any football or singing? I hadn't thought about it, Pat, but in retrospect, it was kind of a rip-off. What a way to treat the loyal fans who've put up with so much nonsense

from this franchise. Any final thoughts? Nah, I'm too mad. Let's get the heck out of here. Call aboard, boys. I've been waiting for you. i'll tell you that doesn't make a lick of sense i know just get on the bus where's that infernal clutch wait wait i'll get it give it some gas grandpa oh quiet jody you're not helping. Yay. So Vincent Price is alive,

and he's here to abduct Madden and Pat Summerall. Driving them off to, I would guess, Springfield to make his delivery of feet. The fake feet delivery. Pat Summerall looks like he's having no fun. John Madden is. Yeah. Pat Summerall is just like that.

I know. I like his Marge and Lisaisa painting eggs he's quite old i miss that type of broadcaster honestly the the one who comes from kind of the radio age i suppose i guess classically trained is the color commentator right yes boom yeah boom baby tough basically he basically invented the color commentator as we know them today. And the word boom. I mean. I love his delivery on, that don't make a lick of sense. He did a great job.

He did an awesome job. Yeah, man. Men should be acting in more stuff. Just a regular character. He's retired. He's fine. Yeah. No, enjoy your golden years there but the uh i think you

hinted at it earlier in the episode podcast though cat that's a dangerous road pointing out that episodes could be seen as ripoffs to fans you know you don't i think they've done it before and i think they think they're heading off at the past criticism but i think it instead works out as they're telling viewers what to be critical of, you know? I think they were also feeling a little sensitive about the internet at that point. So they were making multiple cracks about that. So I think they were just kind of having some fun with it. But yeah, you're right. It's kind of a dangerous road. I really don't like making fun of yourself so other people can't. It's really just showing your shortcomings up front

and giving people more things to complain about. So I'm not a fan of that. It reminded me that actually the egg thing had happened and I was like, what the heck happened? What? Marge and Lisa painting eggs. I mean, that is very funny in its own right. They made an old man say that.

They should have said Vincent Price. I wonder, in John Madden's life, was he ever in the same room as Vincent Price? Oh, I'm sure. Had to have been. Hello, John. But, you know, as an event episode built around being a television event, I think that was a fun, silly episode. It's like Krusty Gets Cancelled, where it's just a bunch of stuff that happened and a bunch of guest stars. I don't get a lot out of it because I don't know who any of these people are outside of John Madden.

So it doesn't really work that well on me. I mean, they really overstuffed it with celebrities. I mean, putting Doy parton in there for some reason yes yeah she's there okay well whatever and it feels like that character could have been any characters just who said yes it's it's not as directed as the uh the classic softball episode where it's all they picked nine baseball players they didn't get other famous people on top of that it's just the nine really famous at the time baseball players but in this they they really only have uh they had two then

currently playing people acheman and marino and then rosie greer uh who was retired and those and i guess john mann was a player too but those are the only like former or current pros pat summerall was a player too oh okay i didn't know former or current pros. Pat Summerall was a player too. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. So five. Compare that to nine softball players. I'd like to see that. Seems very unlikely.

The thing is, that episode was a celebration of baseball and in this episode, the Super Bowl is weirdly sidelined. No one has seen playing football. Well, I mean, is that a statement about the Super Bowl? That football is the least important thing at the super bowl i mean yeah potentially i i like your reading of this i do too it's very smart yeah but as i mean they're uh in by now in the last 20 years i've seen a number of shows built around being the super bowl show the big show for the super bowl like this this is

supposed to be a more mainstream episode that's uh supposed to be seen by the most people ever so that an episode like that could still have a weird post office thing an egg magic yeah it's a price i like that they were weird instead of going more mainstream like they could i was happy knowing a new audience saw that bits of price stuff and didn't know what to think about it. So thanks again for listening to Talking Simpsons. Before we tell you about us, let's hear about our special guest, Cat Bailey. Cat, where can we find you, and what are you doing right now?

Hi, I'm on this show a lot, so you probably know where to find me. But you should go on Twitter at the underscore Catbot. You should go listen to my podcast. It's called Axel the Blood God. It's pretty good. It's about RPGs. Right now we're doing a thing called the Console RPGpg quest where we're going through all of the different consoles and their rpg legacies we just did the super nintendo as of the recording of this episode i like that it's a big one so the next one we're gonna do is the jaguar question mark what yeah

it's gonna be fun we're gonna see if that one has any RPGs whatsoever. Man, the Super NES is king of RPGs for me. Like, it is all... The most of my favorite RPGs are on the Super NES. Or failing that Super Famicom, because Dragon Quest V is one of my all-time favorites, but it wasn't on the Super NES. I'm not going to deny that, but I'm actually really looking forward to getting to the PS2,

because I think you might be surprised by how rich that legacy is. You might have the most RPGs that and the DS but yeah that sounds great I just went from talking all about football to talking about the JRPG legacy of the PS2 A rich tapestry that Cat Bailey

Did you review Madden this year? I sure did not That's your editor-in-chief. You don't got it. No, I took it, and I started playing, and I was like, this game is not good this year. And so I did a whole article about how I was really sick of all the problems that Madden had, and that's why I wasn't reviewing it, because I was saying the same damn crap every year.

US Gamer is about to go into the holiday season, so a bunch of hot reviews coming soon. September was hot. Oh man, I want to see what's going on with that game. That Church's song that just dropped was bomb. I love that. Anyway, enough video game talk to all of our jocks out there. But yes, as for us, we've been

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