Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - The Canine Mutiny With Imran Khan

Episode Date: December 5, 2018

The perfect dog has arrived for this week's podcast, and our special guest Imran Khan from Game Informer talks all about the crossover between dog ownership and medicinal marijuana. Not to mention we cover the shaky production of this episode, what got cut, and how there are still some great jokes alongside the weaker plotting. We hope you like jammin' too, as this week's podcast is full of it! Support this podcast and get dozens of bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! This podcast is brought to you by the streaming network VRV: home to cartoons, anime, and so much more! Visit VRV.co/WAC to sign up for your FREE 30-day trial and kick a little money back to your friends at the Talking Simpsons Network!

hey everybody right before the show wanted to let you know we have an update to our patreon a brand new monthly movie podcast is available now for ten dollar and up patrons at patreon.com slash talking simpsons you want to hear me and bob talk all about mask of the phantasm the best batman movie of all time you can hear all about that in our long almost three hours long podcast patreon.com slash talking simpsons where we try to try i'm your host truth-telling contest winner bob mackie and this is our chronological exploration of the simpsons who else is here with me today i'm henry Henry Gilbert, and I hope you like jamming too. And who is our new guest? I'm Imran Khan, and I'm here because I worked on a ship shoveling dogs for several years. I've done it too. And today's episode is The Canine Mutiny.

Time for a walk. Oh, again? We gotta find out where he's keeping these. I'd take them, but those cards are non-transferable. Today's episode aired on April 13th, 1997. And as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh my God! Oh boy, Bobby! Tiger Woods defeats previous Simpsons guest Tom Kite to win his first Masters tournament at the age of 21,

making him the youngest and first non-white golfer to win that tournament. Meanwhile, Mario Lemieux plays his final NHL hockey game and, gross point blank, struts its stuff in the movie theaters this week. So too many of these are sports related for me. Sorry, it was two major sport things both happened this day. Did Tiger Woods use an open place club sandwich? No, I think Tom Kite depended on that too much.

I see. Tom Kite, not the best performance on the simpsons in terms of sports guest stars locker tiger woods never appeared on the show though i don't think i'm sure they referenced him at some point oh for sure i don't think he himself has been on there now i've seen tiger woods trying to i feel like a few years ago they tried to like last year they tried to have the tiger woods comeback tour after all the unpleasantness that happened with him. But now that's not happening, I don't think. I mean, his problem was he got old.

And by aging, he wasn't as good at golf anymore. But he was forged in golf as a baby. Yes, forced to by his father. Mario Lemieux, I only know him as a person who messes up my ebay searches for mario merchandise i i think he was on the cover of some video game which is why i know him some nes game probably one of the nhl hits games oh yeah looking down the list just word searching for mario and it's like i don't want what's it hockey i don't want hockey yeah i know i i'm okay a mario t-shirt no it's a jersey this hockey guy and uh yeah. And yeah, Gross Point Blank was really,

it was one of the earliest movies to mine 80s nostalgia, I think, in the 90s. Wasn't it one of maybe 10,000 movies in the 90s about a hitman, though? Yeah, it was. Aren't hitmen different? I mean, it's the type of movie that Hollywood was ready to make after Pulp Fiction. They're like, hitmen lead such interesting lives while they murder people. Let's keep making this. And they made the interesting decision

to have Dan Aykroyd be the main villain in that movie as well. Probably his last good performance, I'm guessing. I mean, come on, Blues Brothers 2000. What are you talking about, Bob?

Actually, his best performance was in Nothing But Trouble. But Gross Point Blank for me was when I first heard the song Blister in the sun it they made a whole they made a new music video for you you know in the 90s when an old song would get put on a soundtrack they'd sometimes make a new music video for it that have like older versions of the singers lip-syncing their song from 15 years before intercut with scenes from the movie

like they did with this one. That's a karaoke favorite of mine. It's always fun. And everybody wants to sing along with you. And then you want to wait to see like, who's going to be the first person to say this song's about masturbation? I don't all know that. So this episode, it's all about Santa's Little Helper. And I think it's the first Santa's Little Helper episode since A Dozen and One Greyhound, since season six. Yeah, yeah. And it's another lost dog story. But why don't we get to know our guest, though?

Oh, that's right. That's right. Yes, we have a new guest. I'm sorry for burying the lead or burying the guest. So Imran Khan is one of our new guests. He contacted me via DM. He wanted to be on the show. And I say more people should do it, but you should also be semi-famous at least, like all of us in this room. I'm pleased to know that I'm semi-famous. Yes, we have dubbed you semi-famous. But Imran, tell us where you come from and your relationship with The Simpsons. I am the news editor for Game Informer,

and I am the only remote employee. So I live in San Francisco, two towns over. And basically, I've been a huge fan of the show for a really long time. So I was like, I harassed Bob until he let me on. Yes, I was cyber-stalked. And I was bio-t bio tortured. And that's why he's here today. As for how I love The Simpsons, I remember Simpsons being simply a thing that my

parents did not let me watch. Oh, you're one of those. Yeah. So I got very good at being able to quickly hit the channel recall button and then hit down so they couldn't recall back to know I was watching The Simpsons. That is the trick of it. That last channel button saves so many kids. Yeah, but you then have to double back so they can't hit last channel on another thing. It's like, okay, you got a last channel, but then also make the old last channel a news channel so my dad will think he was watching this channel

after he watched the news. That won't work in digital cable because channels take time to load now, you know? So if your mom walks in and it's black screen loading like Comedy Central, like, wait a minute, what were were you watching what was on cinemax it just happens to be a coincidence every time you walk in the room it's fine but uh i watched a lot of my simpsons on syndication i remember specifically it was like a i think 5 p.m 6 p.m upn block of like two episodes so that was where i caught up a lot of it and i started watching it live once my parents

stopped paying attention i guess but simpsons was when I was growing up it was the way my brother and I bonded oh me too like during the awkward years it was basically how we communicated was Simpsons quotes because you basically hate each other in your team years except for those any shared interests you could have with a brother before you could like say oh my God, really loud. And then tremopoline, trebapoline. Yeah, actually, meeting more guests like you makes me feel more lucky as a kid because my parents just let me watch whatever. My parents are too busy to monitor my TV watching. But we've now met a number of guests who are just like, well, no, my parents would never let me watch this.

And that also precluded a lot of people from watching it when the episodes were new. They could only do it in the afternoon times before parents got home, right? Well, yeah. In retrospect, like, I don't even know what my parents, they let me watch like Seinfeld and Friends and stuff like that growing up. And those shows were much worse about that. I assume the things they were afraid of, of like sex jokes and things like that. The only thing i could think of is maybe they were afraid of the actual reputation bart has as a bad boy that could have been it i mean seinfeld uh some of the gender politics are kind of dated in fact really dated but friends i think it's actually harmful these days for people again ross should be in prison he's a bad man yes and like there's friends are just full of gay jokes that are just

those didn't age yeah i think the b-plot of every friends is like they think i'm gay at least for matthew perry's character yes uh and yeah i think we've also heard like parents thought it because like church elders or other other parents told them this is not uh this is bad for kids well there was like a famous george bush quote that was i want the i want american families to be more like what was it the waltons the waltons it's timeless yeah timeless reference yeah also this is the age test when did you how much younger than me and bob are you and when did you start watching the the simpsons i am 32 which puts me just slightly

over the age of when so i've grown up with The Simpsons as a parallel. We don't feel bad now. If you're under 30, then it's like, oh, you make me feel too old. I don't like you. If you're under 30, get out. Get out. The no under 30s part.

Stop listening right now. Don't stop listening, please. But this episode, so thank you, Amroth, for coming down and being a guest on the show. But yeah, this is the first Santa's Little Helper episode since A Dozen Among Greyhounds. And I think it's the worst Santa's Little Helper episode so far. And I've got some theories I'll get into maybe later. I can tell you about them up top if you want.

I would like to hear that. I have a couple theories too. I think Dog of Death is the best Santa's Little Helper episode because he almost dies. And there's a lot of sympathy for the dog. I think in this episode, Santa's Little Helper is too stupid. And you don't get enough time with him for you to care about him being gone. Well, the emotional cord with Dog of Death is like, it's a double one. It's not just like, I lost my dog or my dog is sick.

It's both of them. I lost my sick dog. So you're pulling at every dog or pet owner's heartstrings with that kind of thing. And this one doesn't really do that. I think also because they wanted to keep emotions at a distance with playing Santa. Santa's a little helper and is never sad in this ever. Yeah.

There should have been a moment of dog emotion, but it's like it's in this episode, it's clear that he doesn't care where he is. He's just confused. He's got an adventure. He likes being around bart that is established he's he's he's either happy or emotionless that's really what it sprinkles feelings are so i feel like this is a bad size little helper episode because it's not really a little helper episode it's a part episode and it's one of the few episodes especially in those

early seasons where they play bart as a child. And that's something that doesn't really happen that often. He's very often the, I don't want to say adult in the room, but you never see a sense of childlike vulnerability from him. Yeah. And this is a more realistic prank, this credit card fraud. I'm not being sarcastic. This is something you could conceivably do in 1997. A little harder now, I think.

Way, yeah, way harder. I think they want your social security number and stuff like that. Well, Bart does give them a social security number, which they just accept. That's right. I paused that. We'll get to that when we get there. But I paused it. There's some information on there.

But it's interesting. His social security number is 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9. So it's on the credit card company, really. If they accepted that, then maybe that's someone's real social security number. It could be. I guess, I mean, mean mathematically speaking it's possible maybe they outlawed that one because it was too easy to rip off and guess but yeah i don't think it's a bad episode i just think there's not enough time with santa's little helper i do enjoy laddie a lot but if you listen

to the commentary this episode had a lot of production problems every step of the way in production uh when you want to do rewrites it's more expensive so there's writing the episode there's the table read there's story storyboard, there's animatic, and there's full color animation. And a lot of this episode was redone in the animatic stage, which is very expensive. And harsh on the animators, real tough for them. I felt so bad for Dominic Pulcino on the commentary.

He's just like, yep, yeah, I had to redraw that too. And there was going to be a cut B story that we see slivers of, of Lisa being hooked on pet pills. And in the commentary by the end, they're like, boy, we could have used less dog stuff in this episode. They really should have kept the pet pills. Just like two minutes of pet pills would have been, just hearing pet pills is funny. I know, Lisa on pet pills is really hilarious.

And you know this episode is troubled for an Oakley and Weinstein era episode because it uses the full opening, the full length length opening which they rarely if ever use when i see it on a gina reese episode i'm like i have par for the course that's fine i'm more forgiving but and it'll be like the full like uh circus opening that'll kill 20 more seconds but when it's bill and josh it does feel like an admission of defeat of like we actually ran out of jokes we liked in this one and so we need to fill it with more with more intro you know i'm kind of i'm with you on why this one doesn't work i also think though too it kind of reminds me of the stories they told a production on mountain of madness which was that i think they're getting a little more tired later in the season and in their second

season and they're kind of doubting their instincts they're just like was this good should we redo it and then they're just all they are full of is regret they don't seem to know what they wanted the episode to be but they they were more they knew what they didn't want the episode to be and i really like the ending but i feel like the emotional story would have had a better ending if the last scene was with bard and santa's little helper i mean this ending is so funny and it's so great and there's nothing else like it really on the show. But I think like they don't really sell the Santa's Little Helper story as well as they could have. I think this episode is very funny. I love the laddie stuff, but they're very honest about it on the commentary about how this is a troubled episode for them. I think in the pitching too, it feels like in the pitch

meetings, you think like we haven't done a Santa's Little Helper episode in a while. Maybe I could pitch a new one. And it's just like, if you're not doing a lost dog, what do you do with him? But if you do lost dog, they've done that twice already, you know. And even Bart's dog gets an F is also almost lost dog. It's like, I'm going to lose my dog. Well, I mean, it's a very weird lost dog episode because it's not really about the lost dog. It's about Bart realizing he loves his dog but it's the scene where he realizes it is like one scene yeah one piece of dialogue and then that's

it there's no real redemptive arc to a actually really shitty thing bart did yeah i guess that's too is why if they have the if they set aside the time to let santa's little helper forgive him that's just more time out of the episode and it's easier to just have santa's little helper not care so he doesn't have to forgive him i think they also have to navigate though the graining rule of animals act like animals so you can't put too much emotionality on santa's little helper or acting if that is your rule from and i think it's a good rule from graining he doesn't want it to feel like a cartoon world where animals act in a cartoonish fashion yeah and despite being a super dog laddie is drawn much more realistically than senna's little helper with his giant like simpsons eyes giant human simpsons eyes no slh when i see him in this episode multiple times i'm like boy you've you can see how much bart has changed from season one

but you're basically the same with his like basically waxing moon type nose and just his few details which fits fits in a klasky chupo era less so in season eight like he does look like he would win one of those ugliest dog contests really well those eyes are enormous and yeah since this is a dog focused episode uh it's frank welker slimer himself that's doing the voices of both laddie and santa's little helper and they bring him in it's usually dan doing the voice of both Laddie and Santa's Little Helper. And they bring him in. It's usually Dan doing the voice of Santa's Little Helper, but when it's a dog-focused episode, they will bring in Frank Welker. Well, because most episodes, all they need out of SLH is to go, and so they do like that a little bit.

If they even remember The Simpsons Have Pets. But in this case, they need a lot more range of acting that I'm sure Dan Kessel andad would do a fine job with. He's great at Santa's Little Helper. But Frank Welker is, I mean, the famous story is he can do a dog and cat fighting at the same time. And he's just the dog guy. Like, that's just who he is. And he's still at it.

You know, they've replaced a lot of people on Scooby-Doo, but he's still doing it. And he's the lesser Garfield. The way lesser Garfield. I guess there is a lesser, lesser Garfield when Frank Welker's too expensive or too busy. I honestly think that other guy might be better. He could be, yeah. Welker, hey, listen to our Garfield Halloween podcast if you want to hear more of our Garfield thoughts. But so this opening bit here, though, I do really like them. This kind of reminds me of the kids bathroom stuff it is them mining the domesticity of the simpsons of like well what is it like in the simpsons house when this

normal thing that happens in any house happens like what's it like to brush your teeth before bed if you're simpson what's it like to go to the grocery store if you're simpson what's it like to get the mail? Bills, bills Ooh, a free sample of gasoline A note from Publisher's Clearinghouse saying we're out of the running Look, Lisa, you got something Oh, Foreign Language Institute Oh, my German verb wheel Ich esse, er ist, wir essen Wenn, wenn, ich bin hungrig Homer, this is yours Oh, I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm hungry.

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I'm hungry. I'm hungry. I'm sorry, honey. Here, you can have the junk mail. Gas your termites. Freeze your termites. Zap your termites. Save the termites. Hello?

So. Cartoons. Cartoons. I've been teasing this for a long time now. Number one, I want to tell all you kids listening out there, Daddy works hard for you. And I think I spent a good 40 minutes reading about the Cartoons magazine. That is the Talking Simpsons difference. No other podcast is going to do cartoons research except for us and because of our patrons who make this our full-time job.

But yes, cartoons. See, when I saw this originally and all the times up until now, I'm like, yes, that is a parody of an Ed Roth drawing. He did the Ratfink character. You see monsters and crazy hot rods. It's either him or someone doing his style. He's dead now. He's been dead for like 17 years. So I was like, yeah, that is an Ed Roth cartoon.

Presumably cartoons is the Simpsons magazine in which would feature just drawings like that. That is what I always, until now now always thought that joke was i thought the joke was homer gets a i didn't read it as cartoons or it was just cartoons oh homer gets a magazine each month called cartoons which is just just a uh an open-ended thing of like it's just cartoons what just read them you have a You get a big magazine of them every month. But that is not the case. So Imran, were you aware of cartoons? Just before I launch into this.

The first time I saw the episode, I was not. If it were not for Homer's delivery of it, of emphasizing cartoons, I would not even get the pun. But after that, I think I was at a Walden Books or something, and I saw the actual magazine. And I was like, I don't remember in what context or if I even bothered to flip through it. But I was like, oh, there's a substance reference I recognize.

Yes, cartoons is real. And when I watch this, I heard cartoons. Like, oh yeah, that's the pun and this is the fake magazine. No, it's real. Cartoons was real and it is real. So believe it or not, in an age where everyone just read magazines all the time, this was sort of the car-focused version of Mad Magazine.

Not affiliated with Mad, but it's like, do you like cars and funny drawings well buddy we got a magazine for you that is insane like mad magazine has trouble sometimes getting good content with no direction where it's just like well we can be whatever we want it to be in mad magazine but to make it that it has to be about cars yeah that's crazy and i mean i think i never actually paged through a real issue of cartoons that i was reading about it there's like real car facts and information in there too if you're a real is it if you're a gearhead are you a carhead okay yeah i don't watch top gear or whatever so i'm sorry but so cartoons ran from 59 to 91 so apparently homer was subscribing to it when it was no longer in circulation but don't worry everybody because it came back in 2016 and it's been a bi-monthly

publication since then there is a market for cartoons that's still easy to me now they're clicking clacker retired you have to get back into that car comedy business yes somebody needs to do it i thought and i think uh car talk is still like number one on podcasts on itunes even though they're dead and it's out. I think it's now done, right? I think it's reruns of Car Talk. Car Talk. At least one of them is dead.

I think maybe both are. But you should really look up Ed Big Daddy Roth. His art is really cool. And also he has got a crazy life. He like did a surf rock album about monsters in the 60s and he built cars. It's nuts. He's dead now. now but i mean his life is really interesting and that surf rock album about monsters is on youtube in full and i was listening to it i just knew him as the ratfink guy because i'd see i would see ratfink like posters at comic shops and i like it looks fine whatever and i never felt compelled to learn more

about ratfink well now you all know about it. I'm sorry. What is the joke Homer says that he's laughing at? Who pumped ethyl? I think, well, ethyl is a kind of gasoline and I think it's also like sort of a sex joke in the magazine, but it's also incredibly lame in the style of Mad Magazine, like just a rancid pun. I love that they're taking shots at cartoons too.

Just like, these are not funny and only a person with no good Just like, these are not funny. And only a person with no good taste like Homer would like this thing. That's why I love Oakley and Weinstein because they are big fans of, you know, Mad and Cracked, but I've been following them for a long time on Twitter. They're revealing like lesser Mads and Cracks of the world. I think like Bill Oakley was showing off like all of the Alfred E. Newman style mascots and one was for something I've never even heard of. Wow, man.

They out nerd us at every turn. I hope to get old the way that those guys do. We'll be telling kids about old websites, not old magazines. When I was your age, I read Sean, baby. This fat guy named Harry told me about movies. You don't want to know what happened to him. Zombo.com was real, I tell you, real you don't want to know what happened to him zombow.com was real i tell you real don't go to style project oh boy i was there a whole lot now all my mail is junk

mail but now i've never not about termites though mostly it's uh well it's either a mailer about a it was just voting season oh god i got a lot of of those. Yeah, when I was a kid that was Bart's age, before I had the internet, I loved getting mail. So I had a lot of game magazines at the back. You'd be like, send me information from all these companies. So I would just check all of them. And I would get all of their newsletters in the mail, all of their company newsletters. Add me to your Alfred E. Chicken list. I want that bumper sticker.

I valued those newsletters so much when I couldn't just go online and read all the news I wanted from them. Like the MST3K, the one you'd get in the mail that was like half catalog and half update. I loved that so much. It felt so special to get that in the mail. I got the American Sammy newsletter in the mail. Wow. They were barely a publisher in America, but I got their newsletter in the mail. Like their three employees photocopied it and mailed it to you.

I'm sure. Yeah, it was one of them. But I don't even I can't even tell you one game they published. Maybe Amagon. I don't remember. Though I as a kid did like when I didn't get mail for me of just going through the rest of the mail, especially in the summer when it could be my responsibility to get the mail because it would be delivered while my parents were away. So I could just be like, oh, the mail's here. What's here? And it's just bills

and junk or things I bought on eBay or Amazon as well. I'm not resentful when I have to actually mail something because that means I have to buy stamps to mail the one thing I mail every month, which is my rent. I still can't get auto withdrawal or whatever on my rent. So I have to write a check and put it in a box every month. I'm like, I have to buy stamps just for this. I'm 30 something. I still don't know that I understand stamps. Like, oh, I got to buy that. Do I have to buy a civic kind? You have to buy the forever stamps. You're good. I've got some forever stamps in my closet right now that I use. So I don't mail any bills because it's all electronic for me in or my for the last uh 12 years that i've lived in an apartment my landlord has been literally a block

within a block of me so i just put it in an envelope and put it through their mail slot myself i become that's fraud henry you can't do that it's illegal that free sample of gasoline that's a cute joke i like the tiny gas can. I mean, I remember that age of when you would get laundry detergent in the mail. And I would always insist to my mom, like, hey, we got this for free. We should use it. I'm like, we don't even use it.

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theft or fraud i guess he it had been established in previous ones that he can just steal homer's credit card whenever he wants to yeah and the idea of dogs being issued major credit cards was brought up on i believe it was sideshow bob's last gleaming right when ken brockman shuts down the station it's like this these stories have brought us all closer together and that was one of them but i looked it up there is no one specific incident this happened a lot and it still does happen i just looked up animals being issued credit cards there are new stories about my cat got a credit card in the mail. My dog got a credit card in the mail, things like that. Can you just spend that and never pay it? I know that Jack Allison, who's a podcast friend, he talked about how like, yeah, I charge my credit card up to

10,000 bucks and then I never pay it. And then after a couple of years, they negotiated down to $5,000 and I just pay it. And he says that he has gone on that cycle like twice now and is working on his third time. Might affect your credit score. And what's he care? I guess that seems to be his feeling. That's real life clouds. I think my credit score isn't great right now. I wish I didn't have credit cards, really. I mean, this is like, I mean, this episode and like growing up with my parents, that was kind of scared me out getting credit cards for years. Like, I don't think I was, I think I was like 29 when I got my first one. Because I remember specifically walking into my family, like bedroom and seeing my mom cut up credit cards.

Oh, wow. And like that combined with this, like this is a very jaunty kind of fairy tale version of, oh, you can just get a credit card and fuck up and then it'll be fine. They'll repossess it and there's never talk of it again. There's no problem if they just take the things back. Yeah, companies don't have the resources to send people to your house to take your things. They'll just get some phone bank in some other country

to harass you until the end of time, basically. Well, they just sell your credit to another person, really. I mean, I have student loan debt and every six months it's like, meet your new bank. They have your debt now. It's like, oh, really. I mean, I have student loan debt. And every six months, it's like, meet your new bank. They have your debt now. It's like, oh, great. I need another login. But Bart doesn't know these realities of adulthood.

It's just the fun idea of having your own credit card. And I think Money Bank is a low-key great name for a credit card. That is good. Yeah. Money Bank. This is like three banking crises ago, this type of credit card so when bart fills it out like i said he has a fake social security number but his phone number is five five five three a number two six now it looks like the other number could be a two or it could be a one

his handwriting is kind of messy i think it's a two just because that would make it klondike five three two two six mr plow's number which is their they would do that they would do that 100 i'm hoping they did that yeah yeah oh and in the scene where bart is filling out the credit card application it's pointed out on the commentary and i've heard the commentary bunch but only now that i just see senna's little helper is shitting on the carpet in the background it is that is the most i think it is the most uh vulgar joke on the show so far just he's trying to but then doesn't actually do anything and just walks away when the scene cuts i think like that is when the the poop should be falling out of him because he's like crossing his eyes and his eyes are squinting but he's in the he's in the squatting position for like the last five seconds of that scene it's shocking they got away with that i it feels like the simpsons doesn't really go for scatological that much i mean we had the uh

two-story outhouse joke recently but we don't actually see someone in the pooping position i think james l brooks was out of town that day he's too busy on like as good as it gets or something oh probably yeah check in on getting that oscar goal they got through some effort to actually show Sazlo Helper being a bad dog in this episode. Yeah. Clearly, he has unlearned everything he learned and Bart's dog gets an F.

Back to as bad as he was in that episode. Maybe he misses casual sex again. Well, he's not getting offered it like Laddie is later in this episode. Where is she's the fastest? Yeah, she's dead, I guess. I don't know. Bart sends away his, like, obviously written by a child application for a credit card.

And six to eight weeks later, we get our second mail call. Bills, bills. Oh, a rejection letter from the New Yorker subscription department. Hmm. Who or what is Santos L. Halper? Wow, my own credit card! Thanks, Santos. A quarter?

Well, you're just the dog that keeps on giving, aren't ya? And Zebra Girl, and Zillionaire, and Zoidzilla. And will there be any more splurging today? Oh, my, yes. I'll take that hardbound Radioactive Man collection. Ah, a superb choice. In Volume 2, Radioactive Man travels through time to defeat Jesse Owens at the 1936 Olympic Games.

Put it all on my credit card, my good man. Oh, pardon me, Santos, if that is your real name, Bart Simpson, but your phony credit card, my good man. Oh, pardon me, Santos, if that is your real name, Bart Simpson, but your phony credit card is no good here. Now make like my pants and split. It's good that he actually recognizes him by now, by name. Yeah. He should. At this point, he really should. I just

love that he said, oh, if that is your real name, Bart Simpson. And I'm sure he's had enough credit card fraud in his past and he's not gonna fall for that the jesse owens joke is very dark yes yes i tried to look up and see if there was any like superman comics that typically tried to do that or like going back in time and like it's all like nazi punching stuff like that yeah it was not anything quite as trying to defeat the first uh radioactive man is going back in time to prove the nazis right he's winning for the nazi well so i think the closest turn to that is there's a million comics like that that though usually

not in the to the right direction usually more to the left of going back in time and teaming up with somebody or meeting real life sports figures this one to me reminds me most of superman boxing muhammad ali oh in the but and what though it was one superman took a dive for two he got depowered for the boxing match which i think they were doing for space aliens i think look at the cover to that because neil adams the artist drew in every famous person of the 70s because he's like they'd all want to be at this boxing match they'd go to ollie frazier ollie superman would get them too wait which superheroes met uh david letterman that would be the avengers they were on david the west coast avengers the goofy but he was on the east coast oh wait no all right it was the regular okay not west coast they also

went on saturday night live they were on both of those shows. Wow. So there is a secret Futurama reference in this little scene here. Oh my. Zoidzilla. So David X. Cohen, Futurama writer and developer. In college, he developed a game called Zoid for Apple II. He unsuccessfully submitted it to Broderbund. It never was published or made outside of his Apple II computer. And he took the name Zoid and carried it with him. So there's a Zoid reference here. And that's why Zoidberg is named Zoidberg. So this has to be David X. the name Zoid and carried it with him so there's a Zoid reference here and that's why Zoidberg is named Zoidberg so this has to be David X. Cohen

putting Zoid in something because why else would it be Zoidzilla yeah that's so specific he is a writer on this staff right now so this could be the first use of Zoid

in a David X. Cohen associated production that's a good catch again the talking Simpsons difference people I can't stress that enough I do like the in media res part of that scene of like the last three things are like Zebra whatever That's a good catch. Again, the talking Simpsons difference, people. I can't stress that enough.

I do like the in-media res part of that scene of the last three things are like Zebra or whatever and Zoidzilla. So he's been going down the alphabet, choosing comics, just saying like, okay, now we're at the very end. As a child, that was my dream at the comic shop to just go on the new rack, not any of the old stuff,

and just go, they are alphabetically, they usually are just in alphabetical order sometimes they put it of like by publisher and then alphabetical within that but usually it's just a wall in alphabetical order and when you're 10 you're like if i could just buy all of these and i could buy all of them now i mean i'm not it would be a lot of money but i still be like oh 300 bucks i guess i'll pay. But now I would want the time. My fantasy is the time to read all those comics. Oh, yeah. When we went to DC Comics, I did walk away with a stack about that big of free comics from that

place. And I have yet to read like more than one of those because it's just like, I don't have time to read this. Bart has kid time though. Though what Bart wants to buy that Radioactive Man hardcover collection, that is how I mainly buy American comics these days because I don't want just even a regular trade paperback. I want a big ass omnibus that's like going to break my shelves. It's hard to read. They did break your shelves. They did break my shelves. Yes. Yeah. You got the billies though. They can withstand anything.

Yeah. Before I had, I did not have a Billy. Now I'm up to the Billy. And also of Ikea style. Billy bookcase. Mine's been lasting eight years. Santos El Halper. That's quite a name.

I like that name quite a lot. And the Omar should really know a credit card is in there. As an adult holding, you know when an envelope has a credit card. Usually you can feel it. There's like a little indentation or outdentation and they'd also have like a thing on the back that says do not open the secured mail or whatever to let you know how important it is but just let's partake it which i mean that should send out a red flag right there they're way too trusting about that you know that's another hole in this episode like emotionally they are all far too trusting of bart

and none of them might get mad at him for any of his things he does in this like he feels bad but his family doesn't they don't care like there's multiple scenes where homer's like yeah okay they don't care about the fact that he gave away the dog except that uh you know how homer feels about giving this straight up a line marge says of whatever you think is best which is like why would you ever say that to bart they make light of that on the commentary. Like, can you imagine an adult mother telling her 10-year-old son that? And it's a weird front-facing Bart when she moves down the envelope, too. I've seen him drawn better in front-facing.

Bart then finds one of those classic 90s catalogs of... The Covet House. The Covet House. I love that. It's like a Jay peterman or the uh the what's the one you always see on airplay sharper image yeah this is a mix of uh sharper image and lillian vernon those are both still catalogs oh i never had a lillian vernon i had llb i've never seen the lillian vernon but apparently it is those sort of like uh you can

get you know the best jams ever made and they all have the old titles like the best soup you've ever tasted things like that i only knew the Peterman ones because that was also on Seinfeld. That's where Elaine worked. I never received those either. That felt like too fancy. We weren't on the list for that. They took you off the list. But yeah, when Bart's flipping through that catalog, there are like impractical items like a lava lamp, but there's also a nose hair trimmer. I want to think that they were newer in 1997 because i think every guy should have one they're really cheap and there's some forests growing out of people's noses when i talk to them sometimes i'm like dude there's you got problems you gotta cut that stuff back i bought one at your suggestion i did uh well i wasn't pointing

out you didn't tell me no sorry that made it sound bad but you're insistent bob insisted that i'd buy one i will not even look at you again henry uh But no, the last time Bob was on his nose clipper soapbox, it did make me go like, I should just buy one. Why not? And I'm a convert too, because also it doesn't hurt or anything either. It's just it clips it out. Because if I'm talking to somebody and they've got a nose hair hanging out of their nose, it's so distracting.

It's just like, I can't look at anything else. But catalog shopping in the 90s, do kind of miss that though actually i just got a catalog in the mail yesterday was it the right stuff anime catalog you got one too i got one too high five yeah we're living 1997 right now yeah well because i did love those right stuff anime catalogs in the 90s because again pre-internet yeah i didn't know what all the anime titles were and not only and like the right stuff ones were catalogs like they were giant phone book size and they even started with basically a 10 000 word history of anime in it too which was very pointed to what right stuff thinks was the best anime and not completely full it turns out it's the things they licensed that's the most important stuff but yeah

i i love getting that catalog at the same time i was like don't waste your money on this you're an anime company these is mailing just the price on mailing those out let alone printing them i used to love those like little those import sheets at the back of gaming magazines. What the hell is Zelda at Densetsu? I'd love to order that. $80 is a lot for a video game. There'd be these games you'd never heard of and sequels to games that you knew about. Like, wait, there's a This 4?

We're on This 3. And you had to take a $90 chance on it even being a real game. Or even getting it because you were sending money through the mail to a person and you did have to wait six to eight weeks if you were lucky. That's one of the things that got me about this episode is it feels quaint even 20 years later of, oh, you have to wait more than a week for stuff?

If I don't get something from Amazon in five days, I am furious. Kid time was a lot more time. In six to eight weeks that was like a huge chunk of your lifetime now like i'll give to a kickstarter four years ago and the game will come up like oh yeah i gave money for this and now it's here i guess i have ages defender now well or the cosmic star heroine yeah i haven't touched i've owned that for a while and have not touched it. La Milana 2 snuck up on me. So Bart gets to ordering, and this is when he shows off all of the stuff he got for his family.

Mom, this is for you. 15 pounds of Vancouver smoked salmon. Here, smell it. Oh, Bart, you didn't have to do that. And for Homer. Wow, a golf shirt. With my corporate logo on it. Oh Bart, you didn't have to do that. And for Homer... Wow, a golf shirt with my corporate logo on it. It smells like salmon too, that boy. And for the college bound, 500 stay alert capsules.

Wow, trucker's choice. That is so sweet. Bart, where did you get all this stuff let me answer that question with cookware a frying pan radio wow i really love how they get that out of the way in the story. I'll answer that question with cookware and she doesn't question it after that. Like how does Bart have access to all of these cool things? There's no possible way. And they should check that a giant box was sent to Santos L Halper, not Bart.

But the family has to be so uninterested in knowledge in this episode for this to work too that's another weakness plot wise in this one i have to say and also i think she comes up on every podcast now but our friend nina matsumoto when she visited us to record with us she is from vancouver and she brought us uh she brought us smoked salmon and she said at the time sorry i couldn't bring you 15 pounds we didn't realize she was referencing the simpsons with her amazing gift of delicious smoked salmon. So when I was watching this, I DM'd her. I was like, were you making a Simpsons reference with your gift? And she's like, yes. And I was like, oh my God, I think I was just, I was too much like Marge. Like, oh, I want to smell the salmon. I don't care about this reference. Thank you so much. No, I thought it was just a nice gift,

but I knew Vancouver was a city, but when I heard that the quote of this being Vancouver smoked salmon was completely lost on me as a kid. But I would guess if you lived in Vancouver, I knew Vancouver was a city, but when I heard that the quote of this being Vancouver smoked salmon was completely lost on me as a kid. But I would guess if you lived in Vancouver, it's very memorable when the Simpsons say the name of your city in it. Yeah. So please bring me fish no matter where you're from. It's a good gift. Make sure it's cured in some way. Nevada smoked salmon. Yeah. And we'll have that salmon sealed too, not just loose in the box.

That's a value add for the shirt that was that was very that was very nice for though i you know i know it's not a reference on the simpsons but maple candy is pretty tasty too it is now i'm just uh i know nina's listening to this so now i'm just listening like hey give me this gift but actually bob you're about to go there bring me maple i'll bring you back all the poutine I can put in my pockets. No, I can buy poutine down the street. That's right. There's a poutinery here. There's no maple candy factory down the street?

I mean, it's Vermont maple. I want Canadian maple. That's true. You know, that golf shirt Homer gets also reminds me of, like, I think the only gift that I got my dad ever that he liked was I picked out just, like, a normal a normal ass golf shirt and he wore it all the time i've seen my dad my dad is terrible shopping for clothes i've gone with him on clothes shopping trips and i want to be done buying clothes immediately like there i bought here's the five things let's get out of here i am my dad tries on shirts all fucking day, like for two hours, and then doesn't buy anything.

Drives me crazy. I think that's just a dad thing. Because my brother and my sister-in-law got my father a monogram shirt that just had his initials on it. Every time I go over to their house, which is two or three times a year, he will show me that shirt. He's like, hey, did you see this? Your brother got this for me. He's like, yes, dad. It has your initials.

That's cool. That's who I am. It tells me that is the perfect Father's Day gift, that monogrammed t-shirts, that it impresses all dads. And then Homer's corporate logo is H-I, which I guess is Homer Industries. It's just him saying hi. That's what I always thought.

I took it to be the initials of Homer Industries. But yeah, you're right. It's in quotes. It's just him saying hi. And the kink song, they celebrate it on the commentary. It's the first time the kinks were ever on the show. They had to pay a lot of money to get this frying pan radio joke. It could play any old song.

Get a cheaper oldie if you're worried about your budget. But it's a great song to hear and then march just is like light bobbing overhead is so funny to me she forgot about all the mail front i like the idea that you need a radio on the frying pan itself it can't just be on the side well like like her pal says taking is it known actually that's what homer said taking existing product to put a radio in it that That's exactly, oh my God. During her pal's pitch. Yeah, it's connected. It's always funny when you can see, especially a season three joke like that one

or coming back to life in a Bill and Josh episode, that it does seem very cumbersome. The long antenna that sticks out of it, just like, it seems like it would really get in the way of cooking. And the pet pills he gets Lisa, which was going to be the b plot of the episode the logo is great it's great it really does look like the thing you see at a truck stop by the cash register all the like fda unapproved pills what i always

see are like the aphrodisiac it's like a weird cgi a thing of chun li getting fucked yeah i or i missed the like 99 cent cassettes those were those were fun you get your ray stevens there as many as you want or now if you also remember the truck stop favorites of like the five pills it's like it's just a bunch of pills that look different yeah what will they do what won't they do yeah What won't they do? Yeah, I really wish they did have a little bit more of Lisa with her pet pill anxiety, as we'll see in this next scene. Bradley Smith is so great here. Halogen lamps? Kill him, Ruggs. You can't afford this.

How can you afford this? Ah, you've been all edgy and suspicious ever since I gave you those pet pills. What are you talking about? I don't need pet pills to be suspicious. If I want to comment on it, I'll comment on it. Who's going to stop me? You pet pill boy? Pet boys, pills, Beverly Sills. Oh boy.

Oh boy. Oh boy. Uh oh. Uh oh. Oh boy. I gotta take those pills again. You think you're so great. Whoa. The crowning achievement of the dog maker's art. This limited edition collie comes fully trained by Major Jonas Fong, A-L-B-D-A.

Only 800 will be bred. Quite possibly the world's best dog. 1,200 bucks? I better just get one. It's a great joke. So Collies and Lassie, like I just don't give a shit about lassie we we have covered this before but lassie was when i knew nickelodeon had become bad in the afternoon i was like well i gotta do something else as a kid because lassie's on and i can't watch that

at least give me dennis the menace there's something there but yeah imran you were talking about uh you did some lassie research before the podcast. I think we talked a bit about it. It has as many episodes as One Piece. There's 20 years of Lassie. It was from 1954 to, I think, 1979. It lasted a long time. I was surprised because I didn't realize it started as a short story.

Then there was a movie, and the TV show was based on that movie. Yes, I think there were a series of movies. In fact, one of them, The Painted Hills, is a Mystery Science Theater episode. That's right. Yes. And it might have been originally based on a book, too, but I think the movies came first. Laddie is such a fun, lazy adaptation of Lassie, too. I really like that.

They never did the whistling opening parody. I'm kind of glad they didn't. I think that was a little played out by them. The ben stiller show did that in like 1992 with manson yeah carl's manson that was great and so now it was five years after that as we found out from our podcast with bill oakley our live show they were hesitant to do something like that's a played out joke everybody's made that joke kind of thing like they did with rectal probing yeah the only show to compare rectal probing to lassie there aren't oh sorry i was gonna say i think it's actually really appropriate that lassie is such a boring show and a boring dog yeah the perfect dog because that's kind of what gets bart's goat in this episode yeah too boring and

perfect that's true and there's no real lassie parody here they don't do the lassie jokes at all there are no lassie you know stuck in a well when there's a boy those things kind of a thing with baby gerald later but yeah but also they rob you the chance of seeing what actually happened i mean laddie did some cool stuff but i think lassie is more like dependable and honest and reliable but laddie is like this amazing super genius seeing how good yardley was in this scene too if they had expanded this on a b plot it had really given uh lisa some memorable lines to say and being like crazy all over the place like she the only other time she got to get fucked up within the show and be crazy was when she drank the water in uh it's a small

world and was saying i am the lizard queen but in this case we only get a small taste of it from yardley which i now that i am getting to know yardley smith's like personal life a little bit more because she has her own podcast now too as as must all humans she start your own today but don't compete with us don't you dare i feel bad when she doesn't get to like flex her muscles and she just has one line in the episode. Why would you do that, Bart? Like she needs to be given more than that. I was kind of curious.

I forgot to look it up. But how many years after the famous Saved by the Bell episode of Jesse getting hooked on like pet pills? Probably a good six years, six or seven years. That was like an early early early 90s one there i mean that show in its form that we all know it as was like three or four years okay like 80 episodes like way longer to yeah and it was it was reran as much as the simpsons like i like there were like five channels that played it every afternoon and it wasn't a first season saved by the bell one either because i don't recall in that episode Zach talking to camera.

If he isn't talking to camera, then you know it's a lesser episode. Well, you looking it up? And where was Miss Bliss? Oh, Zach. Oh, Zach. That pachinko machine, too. I'm kind of glad they went with that over a video game, because that's just obvious. All kids play video games. But what's really expensive is your own smaller but functioning pachinko machine well

we did get a racist a racist impression yeah i didn't play that for that reason yeah yeah well i mean you want to talk about it i mean it's i when watching that i started thinking about like how much did simpsons contribute to that idea of the exotic kind of goofy japanese yeah especially in the early 2000s of like the English.com sort of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think based on the commentary, they were really drawing from their own childhoods in that I guess pachinko machines were starting to become a fun home novelty in America in the 60s and 70s. And like George Myers family had one and Josh Weinstein's family had one. It was like you would pick a foosball table or a pachinko machine that was

the thing you'd buy in the 70s there's always been a like for the last 50 post-war there's been a different toy you import from japan and that's the cool thing to import and so i guess pachinko machines was that for the 70s it's just uh it makes me cringe just like when we did the twisted world of marge simpson hearing one of the white guys on the cast doing a japanese accent yeah it just makes me cringe and i again i don't i don't see a racist intent to or or negative intent to it but it's just like ignorance at worst yeah and particular machines if you see modern ones they're just like so complicated there's like mini games and slot machines and so many things baked into them just like systems yeah and uh though i mean now in 2018 if i still see people do like this is so wacky in japan types news stories i'm like come on japan's at it again

come on guys yeah every time i do that i'm like oh i want that thing yeah not because it's wacky because it looks cool and i am guilty of in the past writing you know the wacky japan stuff but i think like people are still unwilling to admit that japanese people can write things that are funny and know they're funny it's like can you believe it there's not intentionality to this humor it's just weird because they think it's normal like no no no like i saw i forget what site i probably wouldn't name it if i remembered but it was the thing of you know, those Kirby plushes that you can like put your head into. Yeah. Like those were big on Twitter.

Like, oh, Japan is so crazy. It's like, they know what they're doing. They know it looks weird, but that's the point of it. It's a funny toy and you laugh that you have it. Like they don't think it's normal. They think it's a fun novelty to have. That's like saying likeicans think this fake vomit is real vomit why it well and they put their keys in fake dog poop what nutty people well actually i

was thinking of this too because uh defunct land one of my favorite youtube series they did one about a closed ride that's in tokyo disney and he played archival in the video of it they played archival footage from a an american news story about tokyo disneyland opening in the 90s yeah and every fuck like the guy did four different jokes of like they might be stealing our cars but they also want to steal our disney it's like you won't be too short for any ride here at tokyo disneyland and that's what i liked about defunct Land. They're like, boy, that was racist. Anyway, I'm glad he called that out on it.

So that was just, in the 90s, normal. I mean, not good, but normalized for sure. It's the kids of people in the 90s that realized Japan was superior and better and should not be mocked in any way. Better animation, better food. The greatest. And Bart's whole room reminds me of Big, too. The scene in Big animation better food the greatest and bart's whole room reminds me of big too the scene in big when he gets the money and it's just all the junk a kid

would buy all the southwestern style things that were taking off in the 90s too those carpets and everything i really like those those were a nice touch and his jukebox like i think they'd stopped on the jukebox longer you'd see that it was one of those jukeboxes with liquid in it, too, like the bubbly liquid. The bubbles, yeah. Yeah. I miss jukebox. I guess I could buy one myself. That would take up a lot of space.

Or the jukeboxes of our generation are buying old arcade machines and putting them in your house and then never touching it. A friend of mine, he bought a Neo Geo 1 arcade machine off of another pal, and I then every time I visit him, I'd be like, oh, that's interesting in your kitchen. Walk away. We never ever played it. We don't plug it in anymore. I think he eventually sold it to, and he moved to another person who would not play it.

The cursed arcade machine. Yes, yeah. They did a really good job on writing accurate text of selling the perfect dog to people in those magazines. Like that's really well observed and good writing in this episode. And I again, I only knew about the Peterman style catalog text entries because that's what Elaine would write on Seinfeld. They would have like short stories attached to them about like how the person found the garment or what they were doing when they were wearing it. Though the price on Lattiedie i did look this one up okay price is right time guys what do

you think is the going rate for a purebred collie these days well i have an exotic pet and i got my african gray parrot in 2002 and he was a thousand dollars so i would say a purebred dog like an ultra purebred dog of this variety um maybe like i'm gonna go over and say 3 000 okay i'll say 3 500 all right well it is 1800 to 10 000 that's a giant range well if you'd said 10 000 then uh that that okay fine sorry that was a bad game i mean i it was an evil game i i think uh i've got i've got two friends that with shibas and i think they're really pricey too i i like the cosmetics and the fashionableness of a cute dog and a cute dog breed but also i am more i am more of the feeling of adopt don't shop when it comes to pets i said don't shop i mean don't

chop your dogs but no i don't mean that you mean, don't chop your dogs, but no, I don't mean that. You know, there's lots of dogs who aren't a specific pure breed who they have all the love they want to give you too. I actually, we didn't talk about our feelings about dogs and if we've had dogs yet on the show, at least in this episode, I'm curious as to what everybody thinks. I've never had a dog. I've only owned weird animals. Wow. Like my sister was allergic to basically everything like air, grass, love, love everything so we never had animals growing up it was only until we got older than my mom i think we got rabbits first and then cats and then like bearded dragons and all this weird shit like birds but um i think my family was just they they were just working class

people who work too much they're like i gotta take a dog for a walk and i gotta clean up their shit i don't want to do any of this stuff let's have a nice inside pet they can poop in a box it'll be fine and i've never had a dog but i love dogs and i love having friends with dogs because i can just go and do all the dog interaction stuff and none of the cleanup that's that's uh that's also like visiting friends with the kids as well yeah except i don't like that at all i didn't start liking dogs until actually a couple of years ago. Like when I was very young, maybe like two, three years old, I was outside with my dad and he was like watering the plants or whatever.

And one of the neighbor's dogs was a giant Doberman. I don't think he meant any ill will, but kind of just jumped on me. And as a freaking out three-year-old, I was like, oh no, oh no. And that caused the dog to bark in my face, which kind of like traumatized me for a number of years of like being afraid of dogs. And like when I started to get older, I was dogs just want to have fun and like jump in your face and like love you. They don't want to actually like freak you out or anything. Within recent years, I've sort of been like, okay, I would actually really like a dog. Wow. That's a nice, well, it's nice that you can overcome your fear too there i like that i actually had

a bad episode with a dog as a kid too though that didn't prevent my parents from owning dogs i had keep you in line henry until i was five we had two dogs a beagle who literally bit my face when i was two and they just kept that dog like it and i'll grow back yeah no i i had a tiny scar over my right eyebrow for a long time but then as i grew the scar went away like child scars go away faster as long as i've got a coffee table scar like right here oh man geez uh well i guess i'm the lucky one then but the 80s coffee tables were sharp they can cut you in half but but so we had those two dogs they both died when i was like five and i think when this the the good dog the dalmatian we had died i was so heartbroken by it i think my parents just didn't want to get another dog because it was just too i got too sad uh and then we got cats when i was

like 13 and fortunately i moved away before those cats passed away so i didn't have to deal with that grief too close and since then I haven't really had any pets. And now I just feel like as a person who lives in an apartment, how could I ever have a dog? Like that would never, I would want the dog. My apartment's big enough for a cat to have a fine time. Though then that in both cases, they destroy all my toys. I'm looking at my Mario stuffed guys down there.

They tear them apart. Dog would just think it's fine. I feel that way about dogs and children. Hands off my toys. These are my toys. I worked hard to buy these toys. I have some affection for dogs, and I like when my friends have dogs. I can hang out with them. But pretty much that's it.

I wonder if there are any collie owners out here who could tell us that. Are they the perfect dog? Are they a good dog breed who follows orders? I want all you pit bull weirdos to stay out of the comments. Bob, you leave pit bulls alone. They've suffered enough. I think they're fine. I love pit bulls. They're very nice.

But whenever I see them smiling, I just think of that mouth around my neck. They just want to love you, Bob. They look like the high school bullies of dogs. Yeah, yeah. Laddie arrives and is pretty awesome. Gets its own fruit to give to everybody. This was the time I noticed that Bart is wearing a monogrammed robe as well.

Just another of the things he bought on credit. But now we get to see how much everyone loves Laddie. Do a backfl everyone loves Laddie. a church carnival two towns over. In a truth-telling contest, right, Bart? Uh, to the best of my recollection, yes. Wow. I gotta start going to church. What do you got for me, boy? Hey, this says we should feed him lots of eggs and olive oil to ensure a glossy coat.

Oh, yeah. A dog like this you have to feed every day. He's trained to do all sorts of stuff. He can herd sheep and perform CPR. Some call it the dog that never sleeps, though it actually does, while jogging. That dog has more education than I do. He's some kind of super dog. Hey, where'd he go?

So, I don't think at this point I was watching The Simpsons with my parents as often, but that line from Homer, this is a dog you have to feed every day. I remember my mom really laughing at that joke for some reason. The implication that Homer abuses their current dog without even knowing he does it is pretty great. And yet he says hi to say hello before he says hi to the kids. Yeah. I was listening and this guy says like, hi, kid. I think he stopped himself. I think he meant to say hello but before he's assigned to the kids yeah all right he said i was listening in this time he says like hi kid i think i think he stopped himself i think he might say kids

okay but i like it better to think that he just sees bart or lisa and just calls them hi kid they're one monolithic entity it's funny that after things like my sister my sitter that lisa is not trying to bust bart she knows he's lying but she's not really intervening in this at all you know i i don't know why lisa maybe that maybe that was part of the b plot maybe they would like intersect like lisa and pep pills would be focused on trying to bust bart for this and or losing her mind bart could blackmail her back and say like well you're addicted to these pep pills so you're on the hook too. No, again, the family has to act very uninterested in reality for this plot to work. I think every time Marge asks a question, he should give her new cookware.

There should be a new scene every act. Like, how about this, mom? A new something radio. I love Marge reading brochures. Like, it's always funny to me when she reads brochures. While jogging! Watch it. The backflip animation on the

dog is pretty good it's a realistic dog backflip and all the noises he's making frank welker does a good job he was assigned to do what a dog sounds like who's the good dog and what the bad dog sounds like too it's pretty and they are distinct dog noises and the two towns over thing is a pretty funny uh it comes up again also a truth telling contest at a church like how do you lose like god that's like damn i lied i guess there was that game show to tell the truth i don't remember what the hell you did that one i don't i think uh there were three panelists and one of them was the real person you had to guess which one was the real person that's right yeah's right. Seems like everything's going pretty good for him until he gets a phone call.

Hello? Hello, Mr. Helper. I'm calling from Money Bank Credit Services Department. I was wondering if you had a chance to read the threatening letter we sent you. Nah. Because you sound like a mature, responsible person who wouldn't want an unpaid credit card bill to spoil all his hopes and dreams for the future. Dreams such as home ownership, boat ownership, and event attendance.

Now, when can I tell my supervisor, Mr. Robinson, to expect payment? Good dog. I really love being personable and threatening. And also, I like inferring Mr. Robinson is a big deal. Mr. Robinson. You know about him. Yeah. Then he kind of straightens up like, Mr. Robinson. You know about him. Yeah. Then he like kind of straightens up like Mr. Robinson.

I also heard him at him trying to say like, I don't like my boss, Mr. Robinson. Or maybe Mr. I mean all of those calls are monitored as they tell you before they start. So Mr. Robinson is listening and he's got to suck up a little bit. I was like, you don't want this to go to Mr. Robinson, do you?

A great Harry Shearer voice here of the threatening phone call. And event attendance. I like the escalation of homeownership, boat ownership, and event attendance. That's the ultimate there. Attending events. And his... I have gotten phone calls like these

when I've been late on credit card bills, or I think I got them too when I had... I owed like a hundred bucks to blockbuster video it's like hey fuck you guys but i didn't see in hell blockbuster i didn't really get any of the phone calls until they sold it off to another company that then they call me for it but uh i'm not bragging or anything anybody i have a lot of student loan debt but i have i have good credit and i think credit ratings are evil yes they're evil and i

hate when we write stories about other countries like china has a social credit system and if you're good they let you do certain things but if you're bad they don't let you do certain things that happens here it's called a credit rating yeah it controls everything well that's that's also when we talk about human rights violations in other countries you know how many people are in prison in america right it's like you know do you you know that stuff yeah well the credit rating system it it's pretty evil yes and uh very punitive about for people who are outside of uh the mainstream i would say too yeah like my credit is good i still owe about 40 to 50 000 in student loan debt and that is about half of what it used to be 15 years ago or 10 years ago.

So don't go to college. It's a big scam. Those phone calls, too. My tip when you get the creditor phone calls is never identify yourself. Say, oh, who are you calling for? They say your name again. And you're like, hmm, and who can I say is calling? And if at that point you hear it's a credit service or even just like ally, blah, blah, blah, blah, you're like, and hang up.

I say I'm driving right now, so can I call you back? My philosophy is never answer the phone. Never take any phone calls. But what if it's from the same area code as a parent? And it could. Is that why they do that? Oh, exactly. Yeah.

You think it's the hospital. If it's your hometown area code and you think it's the hospital or something, and then I guess they think you'll want to buy the thing when you hear them on the other end instead of being furious that they just made you think a horrible thing happened. The hospital can leave a message. Yeah. Yeah. If someone is going to call me on my phone, their number will be in my phone.

And if not, if it's important, they will leave a voicemail. If I get no voicemail, it's like, oh like oh yeah that was spam like i have nothing to worry about and i wonder how much harder it is for these companies to exist in an era and that we all kind of have caller id built in to all of our devices millennials were killing the collection yeah the the scam industry it does feel like a weakness in this episode that santa's little helper never feels bad like when bart takes laddie walking instead of him but i kind of i get the joke but i feel like they need to anthropomorphize him a little bit they don't want to make i think it was that they didn't want to make the audience feel too sad like they they don't want you to hate bart too much if bart is seeing that santa's little

helper is crying from inattention and just be all depressed, then you really hate Bart for it because he is, in a way, abusing a dog. I think we should hate Bart because he really sucks in this episode and he's being mean to an animal, which I've got a real problem with. I don't think they want you to hate Bart. Yeah, that's my problem. But I do like that Santa's little helper is portrayed as too stupid to have feelings. I do like that. It's a little darker, but yeah. So Bart heads off and buries his credit card. Instead of cutting it up, buries it whole in the ground next to the corpse of some mafia enemy, I guess. I was sad that Pat Tony didn't talk there. That's money.

They actually mess up the voices on that scene, too, if I recall correctly. Oh, yeah. Louie sounds like, I think Louie and Legs' voice are switched around there. And it's again, and this feels like one of the ones they're not trying as hard maybe. It's also expensive to fix. Yes, yeah. Which it's like,

eh, who cares if it's Louie or Legs. Bart gets home. And I have to say that this actually is one of the biggest continuity problems I have with this. It's just like, Homer and Marge going for a walk with the Flanders? That would never happen.

Ever. It's so conspicuous that I think just don't even give a reason why they're gone. Yeah. They went grocerying. Why not just say that? They went to the grocery store. They went to the food jobber. Or have a funny line to say why they're gone.

Dad got his head stuck in blank, whatever. Yes, yeah. So it feels like it doesn't come back. You don't see them on a walk with the Flanders. Maybe that was something that was cut out, like a callback to that was cut out later in the B plot. I have to take this dog for a walk. That's way better than walking Ned or whatever.

It feels like there could have been a Family Guy-style cutaway to them walking at home or not wanting to talk to Ned or something silly happens. Instead, there's just nothing. And it's weird.'s it also just feels i'm disappointed when the simpsons ever misses an opportunity to cram another joke in there's potential there like homer doesn't clearly is not on board with any part of this plan and instead it's just an easy line of like oh why are the uh why are mom and dad here they went on the walk with the flanders anyway and this and this act is super super long yeah it's like a

nine minute long act i think yeah because uh it ends at like 1005 in the file and the opening is like a minute 12 so it's almost nine minutes it's basically a nine minute first act which is about as long as a first act gets on the Simpsons. You know, that's another thing that kind of hurts this episode too, that end of act one, oh, I'm sad my dog is gone. End of act two, I'm sad my dog is gone. Like, you don't even get variety with the act break. What is the act break on act two? I totally forget. I'm sure I'll remember when we get to it. Him deciding to go get the dog. Okay, yeah.

After not making his tears smell like dog food. That's right. Oh, yeah, that's a great act break. But first, in this act break, Bart has to give away Santos El Halper. Mom and Dad aren't home, are they? No, they went for a walk

with the Flanders. Bart, what's going on? Why are those repo guys taking all your stuff? The dog and I got a credit card and... Credit card? Oh, I knew you're up to no good.

Okay, so I committed a little mail fraud. Haven't I been punished enough? Oh, I knew you're up to no good. Okay, so I committed a little mail fraud. Haven't I been punished enough? Hey, stop! You can take back the bassinet, but the baby's ours! And the last item is one $1,200 dog. Is that him? Well, is he the dog or isn't he yeah that's him all right

sorry boy i didn't plan this it just sort of happened oh man i i now i'm thinking like why didn't lisa bust bart for any of this yeah like clearly the parents will know the parents homer and march will notice my frying pan is missing half of my salmon is gone my shirt is gone what happened bar what happened to all this stuff why is your room different now it actually just occurred to me why didn't lisa like i guess her chasing after maggie was why she didn't notice the dog thing happening. Yeah. But she could have pieced two and two together pretty easily there. Pretty quickly. She's kind of surprised by it too.

I feel like that B plot was going to connect all these pieces. Those pet pills would have been the distraction to explain why she doesn't care. When you take that B plot out, you lose a part of it. I do like, though, the callback to Repo Depot. The last scene in season three when they it's the hardest part of my job and they repossessed a crib in that one too that's right uh i left us all hanging by the way the pep pill episode of saved by the bell was it from 1990 okay ah okay classic she's so excited and so scared yeah but i feel that when i drink too much coffee which is

always are you feeling that right now yes i, I'm terrified, but also happy. Also, I got to put some of the guilt on Laddie because he lets another dog go in his stead. That's like Jean Valjean allowing that person to go to jail for him. Had he done so. Laddie's paws are dirty. Also, this is the only time Laddie does not listen to directions because Bart tells him to go hide. Then the next scene, when Bart- He's paws are dirty. Also, this is the only time Letty does not listen to directions because Bart tells him to go hide.

Then the next scene, like when Bart... He's watering the lawn. He's watering the lawn, like right in front of the refo man. Oh, man. He's trying to sell out SLH. Make Bart have that hard decision to make. I got to make sure Bart sees me so he knows to keep me instead of Santa's little helper.

They complain on the commentary too of like, that's an unwieldy name, Santa's little helper, but we're just stuck with it. That's another of those season one jokes. it's funny if they have to say this like snowball too and then you know eight years later they're like we hate making this joke every time we're saying slh so many times yes he's tearing apart the family album which is like that's what he did in bart's dog it's an f he has completely regressed to season two slh uh and bart just watches him driven away which somehow lisa doesn't notice i i do like bart's very like realistic crappy explanation

like look i didn't plan this it just kind of happened you understand that i'm giving you away got me a break here that's that's a good bad guilty acting on his it's not my fault if consequences happen by someone else's actions. Exactly. You can't blame me. That's also his great line where he says, like, haven't I been punished enough? It's like, nothing happened to you.

People are taking away the things you stole, basically, and that's it. And your parents never find out. And this is after Bart already didn't get caught for a similar scam of renting a car. That's right. All those phone calls. Which led to nothing. So when we come back, everybody is still loving Laddie and not even missing Santa's little helper.

Mom, can I feed Laddie the table? It's against the house rule. Oh, I guess just this once. I don't know about this dog. He's kind of snooty. Homer, are you wearing a tie to impress Laddie? Do you think he noticed? Where's Santa's little helper?

Who? Um, I took him to a kennel. Two towns over, just till the new dog gets settled. Well, we wrecked the first dog. We've got to treat this one right. Bart, why don't you take Laddie for another walk? No, Bart had his turn. Let me.

I can't resist his charms. Let's all walk, Laddie. They're all in love. Like, Marge puts on makeup For the dog They are romantically attracted to him I think it's weird But not questioning how Bart had the money To put a dog in a kennel

Two towns over Too far to investigate They're all so accepting of it I guess they're too enchanted by Laddie to ask questions But they also keep putting food In SLH's bowl, thinking something's going to happen. They only now get the information from Bart that he's missing.

I like the fact that Tomer is like Sundare in love with Laddie. He's so snooty. I also love the way they draw Laddie back when he says snooty, that Laddie just looks at him like a dog, like just blank, like. So they head out to the dog park, which they never go to. So it's fun to see the Springfield Dog Park, a new part of Springfield.

And dog parks are fun, though I only ever just walk by them occasionally because I don't have a dog, so. They're fun to look at dogs if you don't have one. They could have worked in Lovejoy's dog here. Do your dirty business. I guess I had to save lovejoy for a little bit later in this episode but all the folks who love laddie here is so funny and i think at the end here's my line of the episode that's the joke hey that is one fine looking animal you got there. Wow, TV's Kent Brockman.

Hey, this fella's not available to stud, is he? You want some puppies, eh, Mr. Brockman? No, no, Jessica's been fixed. She just needs a little attention. Why, that canine is the proud bearing and glossy fur coat of a Yale man. Hello, little fella. Smithers, I believe this dog was in skull and bones. Whoa, cool dog.

Can he catch a frisbee? Boy, Bart, Laddie's the best dog in the world. He's nothing like your old dog. Santa's a little helper? Guess I was the only one who loved him. You got that right. Remember the time you ate my goldfish and you lied to me and said I never had any goldfish? But why'd I have the ball, Bart?

Why did I have the ball? Yeah. He was a great dog. Bart's pulling the wrong information out of that conversation That is probably, I think, one of the best Milhouse lines, period I love that Yeah, just the fact that Bart gaslit Milhouse Thinking he never had goldfish

You can tell that at some point Milhouse realized it And had this line prepared For how to confront Bart about it He's like, I'm finally going to tell Bart off about this If it ever comes up again. And Bart isn't listening. He's like, yeah, he was a pretty great dog. And the bowl is a smoking gun.

Like, aha, that proves I had goldfish. Let me know your memory does, the fact that you remember having goldfish. And then he just walks away from Bart angry. And then still Bart is like, yeah, he was a was a pretty good I feel like he walked away like confident like yeah I showed him I got it finally oh it's off my chest like I've unburned myself of the

lies my friend had told me but yeah he's just like why did I have the bull like god so funny good animation on him too and the yeah Kent Brockman trying to hire a sex worker for his dog because that's uh very weird and uh and burns the they love a good yale joke i think this is their first

skull and bones yale now we know all about skull and bones having had a skull and bones president more than a couple supreme court justice yeah what's the deal you jerk off in a coffin while your dad is there how's that work on the bones of a native american as well this this is all true how much of a checks out the joshua jackson film the skulls is anything to go by i think us non-yalies are not supposed to know what happens there so glad he played the devil's triangle which is a game of catch yes i heard it's a game of tiddlywinks fucking yalies now more on the side of harvard than yale i haven't seen any i mean harvard only educated all the other war criminals yeah that actually reminds me there's a harvard joke that we missed earlier on oh yes yeah the albda which is a harvard extension school degree oh i didn't i looked

it up and i couldn't find out what that was wow okay so the dog the guy who trained the dog was a harvard graduate okay wow yeah and there's a lampoon joke coming up or lampoon reference coming up a little later too but the the yale i mean this is all harvard writers making fun of yale so i like that and uh it was uh one of the fun respites from the uh horribleness of the brett kavanaugh trial was seeing bill oakley make some funny yale joke during that yeah all the simpsons writers were baring their teeth at yalies they're like finally i'm free to do so now that skull and bones thing that really takes me back to 2004 in the fahrenheit 9-11 era because i remember seeing fahrenheit 9-11 and leaving and then seeing basically proto-InfoWar guys,

like guys who didn't have InfoWars yet to talk on. But they were just like, well, you guys going to vote for Kerry? He's a skull and bones too. It's all the same secret society, man. And now I think about it, it's just like, well, yeah, they were all in the same secret society, but they're also in the larger secret society of being rich. Yes, exactly. That's not secret.

They don't need a club or a secret handshake to decide they're going to help each other and enrich one another with cronyism and friendliness. They all just agree to that by being wealthy.

And they do it publicly, too. Yeah, there's no secret to it. But isn't that boring, though? You want a conspiracy in a secret society that's running it all. I know all the evil is out of the shadows now. It's not even fun anymore to have conspiracy theories now it's just web

message boards yeah exactly that's that's why people have to try to find like oh no the real evil is still secretly hiding it's from all the secret sgws and trans groups they're really hiding the real secrets and the reverse vampires They're all working together As of this recording, the press secretary is using a gif from Infowars To prove that a reporter Assaulted a White House intern Like a sped up karate chop Yes

Pretty great Should put some anime speed lines in there too Like he puts the arm down and the GTO theme starts playing It was very much like the It was very much like the mr simpson no yes i made a gift of that by the way so when bart walks away from the dog park i think they should have lingered on the shot a little longer because it's a cool shot of everyone has a dog and is hanging out with it except for bart yeah you're walking away from it if they spent just a little bit longer there i think it would have more revealed the emotional thrust of this episode being bart at least really missing his dog which is not because they did that with bart's soul like they did a very deep

dive into his emotional state in that episode and here they just kind of don't focus on it that much yeah uh in and in that wide shot this was the first time i caught that like when millhouse walked away he went back to his little doggie that we last seen oh yeah density the unnamed dog bart meanwhile is so scared for santa's little helper oh santa's little helper i was crazy to give you up for another dog what have i done to you captain can't we go any faster? I greatly fear we shan't be in Wimbledon by noonfall. No worries, madam.

Lumley, shovel on more dogs, won't you? Aye, aye. More dogs! More dogs! In we go! Nah, that's not too likely. But still, you're gone. Where are you, boy?

Noon fall is a great made-up word. And also, Yardley Smith gets to do another voice. That is kind of distracting. I like when they give her another thing to do. Yeah, I know. You know it's her, but I mean, come on they give her another thing to do yeah i know you know it's her but i mean come on give her something else she's really good in it i and it's not like you're not thinking that's lisa in disguise but i guess it is a weird it's just a choice they made after like season two or three where nancy nancy julieardley, they feel are too distracting playing a woman. So they kind of rarely do. Nancy does it more often playing a one-off woman character than Yardley or,

or Julie does. But it's especially weird with Yardley though. It, she does such a good job with that voice. And all the dogs in the shovel just look so happy. They're like looking around like what's happening, what's happening. And they're just all like happily sit like they were told like sit and they are not they're not resisting in any way it's never really called out but i've noticed a couple of times bart has a weird cultural fascination with like middle english like a victorian english yeah it really fits with his rudiger replied ad helga his his nickname of rudiger also his uh and i'll be uh i'll be a shot in your boots governor that's that's that is a lot of what bart is into i think it's more of what john schwartzwalder is into or uh bill oakley and josh weinstein also i wonder if that

boat seems rather similar to the boat of the damned from uh that homer hides on in kidney trouble oh yeah boy they didn't like that boat on that commentary. Actually, they cut out someone saying in the sense, more dogs. Which is good, because I like the idea that Bart's dream is not a real thing that happens, that steamships are fueled by dogs. Hearing the foghorn

is funny enough. Bart shouldn't hear that sitting at home in Springfield. There you go uh so meanwhile bart is just getting annoyed by how much laddie how overly helpful laddie is that's why we had the funny uh opening line there of the uh the the card that's being told to walk him that feels like a very john swartzwaldery idea the fact that the dog has these cards drops off like where is he keeping them bart can't find them and they somehow know they're non-transferable and that they're obligated to follow the rules of the car like well you gotta do it he gave you a card

so bart takes him out for a walk and he's forced to save him from an off-screen fire and this is when we finally get a name for one of bill and josh's greatest creations in simpson's history joe laddie thank you for your heroic rescue and baby gerald we can't help but wonder what mischief you'll get into next now can we go home lad Laddie saved the day, Simpson. Boy, we sure could use a dog like that on the forest. Why don't you guys take him? I thought he was the right dog for me, but I guess I made a mistake. Really? No fooling?

Aw, gee, thanks, mister. We'll take real good care of him, and we'll play with him every day. Honest. And we are kind of screwed out of seeing what actually happened, you know, the scene. But yeah, Baby Gerald, first scene in, I believe, Lady Bouvier's Lover Season 5. There aren't any other babies. Maggie doesn't like the other babies. There's actually a really nice piece of animation with Baby Gerald where, like, his eyes blink kind of independently.

So he looks a lot stranger. Okay. Weird. I totally missed that. That's awesome. And he arches his eyebrows being like, he is an evil baby. Lisa is right to be angry and scared of baby Gerald. What I like about this, like it's the same day.

They're having that same like thing. Cause Bart's still tired. He's like, I want to go home. So like he saved the baby and then they immediately just go to the mayor's office to- He has to attend the ceremony. Yeah. It's been within the hour. But I mean, getting rid of Laddie does not really solve his problem. No.

And him choosing to give him away. I mean, it's nice to give him to Wiggum. And this is one of the better plotting bits in the episode. Because this will come back for the ending. And I love Wiggum's childish reaction. Like, oh, really, mister? Will, this is one of the better plotting bits in the episode because this will come back for the ending. Yeah. And I love Wiggum's childish reaction. Like, oh, really, mister? Like, he's calling Bart mister.

Yeah. And he's just sad. I'll take care of him every day, I swear. When Letty is licking him, it's satisfying. Like, meh. I just love a Wiggum noise. It's always funny. It does show how exhausting it would be to have a hero pet.

Yeah. It's like, I just want to go home, but you have to save the baby. Yeah. So Bart gives away one of his dogs. And I also, again, cutting out what the family would feel, they should be very angry that Bart gave away the perfect dog. They all love Laddie so much. He's not Bart's dog.

He's a family dog. That's like, I couldn't give away one of my cats, even if it was technically of the cats I had as a kid. We had two that were the family cat. One my brother picked and one I picked. And I love, I would never give away Jack. I loved him, but I couldn't give him away too. And just like, well, yeah, he's my cat.

I can just give him away. Get out of here, Jack. Like you don't get to do that, but the family is very fine with that here. Laddie's not coming. I gave him away. What's the matter, Bart? Weren't you happy with him?

No, he just wasn't the right dog for me. I'm sure he'll be happy as a police dog. You better know how to keep his mouth shut. Well, if that's what you think is best, let's just go down to the kennel and get Santa's little helper back. Uh, we can't. He's not in a kennel.

I gave him away, too, and I don't know where he is. You gave both dogs away? You know how I feel about giving? I'm sorry. I know it's wrong. I messed everything up, and now I don't have any dogs at all.

Zare, Zare, shut up, boy. We'll just get you a new dog. I don't want a new dog. I want Santa's little helper. Well, crying isn't going to bring him back unless your tears smell like dog food. So you can either sit there crying and eating can after can of dog food until your tears smell enough like dog food to make your dog come back. Wait and go out there and find your dog. You're right. I'll do it. Rats.

You almost had him eating dog food. Okay. I mean, I think the weakness of this plot point is overwritten by just three really good Homer jokes. But I really like at the end, he's not invested in making Bart feel better or helping Bart with his problem. He's just, oh, this is the perfect plan to get Bart to eat dog food. I can make him eat dog food.

It's going to be so funny. He doesn't want SLH back. He wants to make Bart eat dog food. But yeah, Marge is like, this is not the Marge we know. It's like, oh, honey, what's the problem? Oh, you gave away the dog we all love. Well, if that's what you thought was best. Yeah.

It's something that they have to just sort of get away from for any of this to work but i feel like this is late in the season they're very tired and they just need to put this episode out you know so i'm not gonna hold trying their best yeah but it does feel if you analyze the plot from a just a pure plotting standpoint it is much weaker than the very very high standard they've said it's only because they've set a very high standard that this feels a little weird we wouldn't be this judgmental if this was a like a merkin episode or a gene and reese episode where there were plotting problems but they were so funny you didn't really care you know yeah and this still

has really good funny bits in it yeah like three great homer jokes he better keep his mouth shut the dog food one and there was one other one you know how how I feel about giving. Three really, really good Homer jokes. I actually want to call out, there, there, shut up, boy. That too. Four, four, yeah. There was a point in high school where a friend of mine was having a bad day,

one of those teenager feeling days, and she was crying. And at a time where I knew more Simpsons quotes than social skills, I went, there, there, shut up, boy, and just immediately sobbing. And I was like, okay, I shouldn't do that anymore. It's a good line, but never again.

She was too sad to get your reference. I don't appreciate my reference. That shut up, boy. Yeah, so like four really, really funny Homer lines. Maybe they knew this scene is weak, so we need to make it as funny as possible so people don't realize it doesn't make any sense. The family is not reacting in the way they should. Where's Lisa to be like, I knew it.

Yeah, you can depend on Homer to distract with a good Homer line, at least. I think Lisa was off in her B plot in this scene. They took out the B plot. It's like, where is Lisa? Why isn't she here and commenting? Secretly, she's struggling with pep pills the entire time, I guess. I will say Bart's voice acting is actually really good. Oh, yeah.

Nancy is so good at being convincingly sad and pitiful. And isn't there a scene where he almost cries in this? Yeah, no, this is him laboring to cry. And then he also pretends to cry too. He's really good at that.

It's good fake crying too from Bart. But Nancy, yeah, Nancy gets to really show off. It's good when Cartwright can show off her range as an actress as well in Bart. But then Bart just gets to really show off it's good when cartwright can show off her range as an actress as well in in bart but then bart just gets to run off and homer is just sad he's not gonna the bart has to run off twice because he runs off again to go look for the dog that is another underrated

homer line in this one that i really like which is when he comes back, like, I'm going to have to get the dog. The bad dog or the good dog? The bad one. Good. It's a fun... Bad good wordplay there. And it's a nice way, if somebody just came in at the commercial break, to be like, what's this episode about? And Homer just has to lazily say, like, what are you doing? Getting the good dog? No,

the bad dog. So Bart begins his search for Santos El Helper. You gotta give me back my floor my customers are walking around in the pipes hey next time pay your bills but i don't want to excuse me sir did you repossess his dog from a guy named santos l helper yeah yeah i remember this mutt we uh sold him to some guy wearing a dress no No, I didn't buy your dog. I gotta go keep an eye on Selma. She thinks she swallowed

a band-aid. Yeah, I bought your mutt and I ate him. I ate his little face. I ate his guts and I ate the way he's always barking. So I gave him to the church.

Oh, I see. You hate him, so you gave him to the church. Aye, I also ate the mess he left on me rug. Ya heard me? Ya heard me. God, the B story could have been Patty choking on a band-aid. Can I say how

disgusting that sounds? In the background. Yeah, I love Patty and Selma so much. Only Band-Aid. Can you see how disgusting that sounds? In the background. Yeah, I love Patty. It's almost so much. Only for half a second do you have to listen to that sound. But yeah, like, ugh, so gross. But it's a fun smash cut to Patty's legs. Not a fan of the, you know, oh, these masculine women are men.

But it was of the time. Yeah. The next scene, I do like the churchy wordplay we get from lovejoy oh wait before that though the mo's reaction like i don't want to and the idea that his floor was repossessed like just one big chunk yeah not like separately and that building has a high ceiling so they keep mo's entire floor just propped against the wall that you just look at and then they were able to just like lift up as one and take out like slide under the how they do it it's that's what's so great about it like on my way over here on my block there is a house that is now on giants like like stilts up in the air and i'm like is this really worth it what are you doing just build a new house what

are you doing in this house could Could have sentimental value, the house. I guess. It's just like, I don't even know how. I know it's possible, but how do you even do that? No, that happened actually right before I moved into this place at my old place. Next door in the vacant lot, an entire house was moved onto that spot too. And again, I was just like, what? But they tore down a house to put an old house there.

Just build a new one. But I like the vision of Barney and the barflies walking on pipes. Walking carefully so they don't fall into the basement. Which is probably full of pandas and killing animals. Those ain't your rats, Bon. Shot rats. The Bart search sadly doesn't bring him to the Spirograph factory but it does

Dr. S could have helped him It does take him to the Church thrift shop which I don't think We've seen since They should have sent more stuff in that church thrift shop Now we did get some good Agnes in here though Oh yeah Yes I remember Satan's little helper

Littering the rectory with his dirt, biting me in the abs. He unholied the holy water. That's him, all right. I'll be happy to take him off your hands. Oh, I'm afraid that's impossible, Bart. He's no longer among us. You didn't crucify him.

No, he's safely with one of our parishioners. I'll give you his address if you like. And then buy something or get out, angel. Buddy me in the apse is good. An apse is a part of a church. That's where the altar is usually. Usually it's like a separate area with a higher ceiling to make the priest feel more important. Okay.

Yeah. That's fancy. I didn't know the specific name of it, but I knew that had to be just some church thing. And unholing the holy water reminds me of Sweet Seymour Skinner's badass song, where he talks about all the things Sandals Little Helper has done.

He went to the church and drank all the holy water. That's right. So he's had a few adventures in churches before. Stuck under the house and ran out covered in ticks and drank all the holy water. And yeah, and Agnes yelling at Bart. I feel like in two seasons, Agnes wouldn't even care if she looked bad in front of Timothy.

I wonder how Agnes, does Agnes run the church thrift shop? Is that her job? It's like a volunteer position. If so, it's weird to take a dog in the church thrift shop. Yeah, you don't see in most thrift shops living things. Yeah, I mean, they're not for sale. Anyways, they're just crawling around the ground. I didn't really notice it before, but I love how long Reverend Lovejoy takes to react to the crucifixion joke.

Yes. Just like laughing for a good three minutes. Oh, no. No. That crucifixion joke, too, I love because it shows that Bart does not pay attention at all in church and thinks that- The church crucifies people. Yes. Just like, well, just as you crucify Jesus, you crucify. Like, no,

that's not why we have a crucifix. And Lovejoy takes it in stride of it. See, that's why the Lovejoy is a bad preacher. That's a teachable moment for him that he could have instructed Bart on what crucifixion actually is. I think he knows how stupid Bart is by now. Yeah, you know, it's kind of a loss. Yeah. Bart heads to SLH's new home. Yes. My name is Bart Simpson. I have to talk to you about your dog. Give me one minute. Okay. Showtime. Please, mister. No, let me do that again. Please, mister. Please.

Hi there. How can I help you? You're the guy who owns the dog? Yep. His name's Sprinkles. Sprinkles? Yeah, he's my best buddy, huh? Especially since my parrot decided to stop talking.

Polly? Polly, want to say hi to our guest? Huh? Fine, be that way. Now, what can I do for you, son? Nothing. Forget it. So one thing I can tell about this episode being at the end of a season made by very tired people is that this character does not have a name and uh oakley and weinstein in their eras they would stay up

till three in the morning finding a funny but also a low-key funny name for a character and it's it's not great when a character his identity is his disability yeah and he does not have a name like we we gave algae to mike reese crap because there's a in their series and shows there's a lot of times where they just have a female character who is unnamed it's like you're the lady what's her name it doesn't matter i feel like you're a sex hole a character needs the respect of at least a name no matter what they are if they're going to be this pivotal in an episode just like name him steve or something i don't know they just call him the blind man a blind man like they what is he in the wiki he's got to be just blind i believe it's mr miller actually mr. Miller actually I think that was

The information that popped up on Simpsons World Maybe he was named in the script But there was no character to say his name Well it's just a boring name Mr. Miller And that he's voiced by Dan Castellaneta which feels like Kind of a missed opportunity for a celebrity

But they Again there's just not a lot of effort Less effort put into this one which feels like kind of a missed opportunity for a celebrity. But they, again, there's just not a lot of effort, but less effort put into this one. And just so you don't think we are annoying SJWs though, we are, uh, in the,

in the commentary of this, when they're doing their blind person jokes, George Meyer says, we didn't win any, we didn't win any awards for this one. And then Josh Swanson is like, no, see,

it's funny because blind people can be bad people too. See, that's's funny he's like he's kind of sweaty and you know he realizes like this these aren't the best jokes these mr magoo style jokes i mean yeah that's exactly what they are yeah uh well what did you think of the dead parrot joke bob i know you're not a fan of parrot it was funny i mean it was definitely a call back to monty python and it was like not like the pair was killed by any means of cruelty. The bird just died, and he was too blind to notice the bird rotting away. And down to his bow tie. Yeah, and bow tie.

Yeah, birds don't like bow ties in general. The one thing I don't like about that joke is that they just used the filling Santa's little helper bowl with food. Yeah. So they just did it again for the bird. Boy, boy, you're making me hate this episode more now but i like i guess it's a funny episode it's a funny episode but i think it's like they're doing straight up mr magoo jokes without a ironic twist on them or a commentary on them yeah and like then later they just sort of don't do any like when he comes down the stairs he just

breaks his own things it's not funny yeah it's not like a creative blind person joke and though i do i think my favorite joke with him is that he would name him as crappy a name as sprinkles yeah bart's just reaction like sprinkles sprinkles that's another creativity of santa's little helper though he even gets a monogrammed sprinkles doormat doormat for the for his side of the yard like that's that is a man who cares about his dog honestly this has been like a day since this has happened yeah he's he's really happy about it well maybe it could have been like a week ago he got it we're not giving a real good timeline here yeah things just i mean who knows how long bart's search lasted as well which uh which they joke about on the commentary they're like not

i like ironically this is a real shaggy dog story here let me search for it oh i do like bart pretending and he kind of is almost like nancy herself probably in the vo booth like oh no wait i can do that again just like immediately oh, no, wait, I can do that again. Just like immediately saying it like, no, wait, let me do that line again. I could see that like as an actor preparing. She's very much used to doing other line readings. Especially the way Bart puts up his finger of like,

oh, no, it's like pause, which it's like, who are you doing that for? Who am I talking to? It kind of sounds like Bart also learned zero lessons from this so far is that his immediate reaction was fraud. Yeah, time to defraud someone else. And if fraud doesn't work, then why not just steal him?

So, that's my plan. I'm going to break into the blind man's yard and swipe the dog. Bart, that is a new low. Hey, I'm not saying it's going to be a dance around the maypole. Well, I won't tell Mom and Dad, but only because I want the dog back. Just try not to freak out the blind man. I can't promise I'll try, but I'll try to try. So I didn't know where that line came from.

I'll try to try because it's kind of buried in this episode, but it's been on a trash can in my bathroom for 17 years. It's my bathroom trash can. It's got a bunch of Simpsons quotes on it, but Bart's been on a trash can in my bathroom for 17 years it's my bathroom trash can it's got a bunch of simpsons quotes on it but bart's quote is him saying that i love that lie i'll try to try which is that's a lie yeah it's the excuse thing i say whenever i don't really want to do something yeah when if somebody asks you like could you please do this like i'll try and in your head you're saying i'm not doing that. I just have the cover of, I said I'd try. And then when I don't do it, you'll just say, you can just say later, oh, I tried.

I tried. Lisa is, I guess she has to be on board with this. But I think in a realistic, more realistic world, getting Homer and Marge involved, they could possibly go to the man's house, explain like our son gave away this dog. It's actually our dog. And we can help you get a new dog, not like just steal the dog back and have like a uh stolen possession in your home like this man now owns this dog in a uh breaking bad style dramedy this would lead to the blind man dying and yeah it's getting only worse and again i hope our listeners aren't too annoyed with us trying to

think of like this story's got some real problems in this her moral compass just like completely fails here which is probably the most un-lisa like thing in the episode and she wants a dog back which why who gives a fuck you don't even consider it your dog like you don't care and i wonder in the original story was this when she solved her pet pill problem and maybe coming down i think uh yeah i think that could be it and i think hen was right. I think maybe there was a sort of blackmail involved in the B story in that, like, Lisa couldn't tell on Bart because Bart would talk about her substance abuse problems to Homer and Marge. You know, there was one other touching line I liked in this that Marge talks about how

Bart is like, oh, we didn't walk the dog here that much. Yeah, and he just likes hanging around the house with Bart anyway. Like, it was interesting to see how they considered bart they consider santa's little helper to be bart's dog yeah and that they are good buddies not the family dog but bart's dog like that's sweet i like that but i guess bart in that first episode the christmas special bart has to convince homer to take the dog like this is the miracle that we see on tv all the time this is our miracle that we're getting that's true yeah yeah uh okay so bart bart does try to try but instead gets caught and uh there's a cute sequence of him

walking in and getting his hands wet in the water in the food dish and then uh yeah sprinkles is happy to see him and meanwhile it alerts uh it alerts the blind, as he's constantly called. And Bart tries to get away. I may be blind, but you just ran into a closet. Don't! Hey, burglar. I hope you're having a good time in there, because the police will be here any minute. No, mister.

Please, I'm just a kid. I only came to get my dog back your dog and i miss him so much and i know you like him but i like him too and he was mine first and i know i don't deserve him but so what this comes down to is you want a blind man to give up his only companion? Yes, please. Tell you what. Why don't we let the dog decide? So he had stuff with the bolt cutters, too.

George Meyer has a funny line on the commentary saying, like, kids, you can get a lot of fun with those. They work pretty well. Which bolt cutters are actually, I just went to MST3K Live. I'm wearing the t-shirt. But in the movie they did on my show, bolt cutters have an important plot point in that movie as well. So I was like, wow, this is so weird that I've seen two bolt cutter things in a row today. They can get you anywhere. They cut through anything. And they're a great plot device.

They're not illegal. You can just buy them in any Ace hardware. I do like him putting it into words like, so you just want me to illegal like you can just buy them in a any ace hardware i i do like him putting it into words like so you just want me to give up my dog huh you're not even accepting that this is his new home it's i gotta give up a dog huh great okay and there's a contest sort of to see who will who stands will help or decide upon and there's not i think there could have been a better joke than him chasing his own tail for a second and then going to bard but i don't know.

The ending for this episode makes up for the weakness in the third act, I think. Give me a kiss. Oh, yeah. Sounds like you won. Congratulations. Oh, jeez. I'm sorry. Wish there was some way we could both have a dog. Hello? Hello?

Police! Oh, man, if this one's not the right house, I quit. It's okay, officer. False alarm. Hey, who's that? Oh, I like you too. Well, looks like somebody's made a new best friend. Okay, boy, that's enough. That's not for doggies.

Don't. Oh, jeez. Marijuana. Well, I guess he didn't like you after all. You just smelled your narcotics. Buck them, boys. Book him, boys. Hold on, Chief. It might be medicinal.

Oh, yeah, medicinal. Without it, I could go even blinder. Right? This might take a while, kid. Why don't you and your buddy run along? Bye, laddie. Come on, boy. Let's go home and have some fun, huh? That cat's been

strutting around like she owns the place. Yeah. So real cops aren't that cool. No. They'll take your drugs. Yeah, they take your drugs and beat you up and then put you in jail. They need an arrest to make their record look better. I really like

the fake sitcom ending. Somebody's got a new best friend. It's like, Bart gets his dog back. The blind guy gets a new dog. It really like the fake sitcom ending like somebody's got a new best friend it's like bark gets his dog back the blind guy gets a new dog with it it's like the immediate subversion it's like no the dog just smelled drugs on you you're going to jail that's great i yeah it that is a fun that is a very fun subversion i like too that he's kind of that he's a musician that kind of implies he frequents in the world of pot smoking musicians sure that makes sense and there was a medical marijuana joke in this episode because this was a period in which there was a huge upswing in the amount of states that were legalizing it

between 96 and 99 it was really coming into fashion you see a lot of medical marijuana jokes in this era like Mr. Show had a sketch yeah oh yeah that's right and well now soon that will give way to Viagra jokes when that becomes legal. But those jokes are funnier.

I mean, what's funnier than a boner? A few things. But no, the pot joke now it's even weirder because at least for us Americans in our state and increasingly in more American states, marijuana is becoming fully decriminalized. You can just go to the weed store and fill up your cart. It's kind of boring now, honestly. And actually have it delivered. Don't even go to the store.

No way. There's a lot of friendships you no longer have to deal with. Thank God. I've never walked through a beaded curtain, and I never will again. No, I'm just not much of a pot user myself i i have had it delivered a couple times but every time i get high of the like under 10 times i've done it i'm just like i need to lay down oh i don't like this but i guess that's because i prefer edibles to uh yeah man you gotta smoke that stuff bro smoke up Henry At least vape it

Vape some CBDs bro I gotta get a wand and deal with that shit You can fill the air with disgusting cotton candy fog Like every moron Well yes Bob you're a smoke weed everyday I'm high right now Yeah I mean I kind of prefer the old fashioned

My German High quality bong that I use. But yeah, I don't do anything fancy, really. I just use, you know, your standard marijuana that comes in little baby food jars, those kind of little thingies and nothing fancy. I, as an innocent child, I did not, I knew what marijuana was. So when they say out loud marijuana, but I didn't connect. Then playing a Bob Marley song meant they were all getting high together. I didn't make that connection until a few... Even Wiggum singing all fucked up.

Yeah. It took a few years before it really hit me. At this point, I had heard all of my mom's Cheech and Chong records, so I sort of understood what all the drugs were based on context and Dave not being there, but actually he was there. That's why it was funny. Aaron, did you get those jokes? Were you versed in weed culture by that point at least?

Not at all. I got the joke of, oh, drugs are bad. But then like that joke, when I was watching this episode again, that joke was just not shocking at all of like, I see what they were going for. But today it's like, I was literally just before I watched the episode,

I was reading a story about long lines in Canada now now that weed is legal it's like okay it would be like doing a joke during prohibition era of someone having a beer yeah we're gonna laugh we like how we laugh at all the prohibition era stuff now in the future people are going to laugh at like the idea of having to go to some dude's uh studio apartment and listening to like bob marley with him just to get your bag of weed your bag of shitty weed yeah well now is uh well we kind of have it lucky here in california that like in the like these southern states where i grew up they are highly elite like they still treated uh pot users very poorly because because it's an excuse you're you're attacking the people who use pot

and those people are the war on drugs is just racism yeah totally in classism too it's the same thing as racism for the most part it's tied up in the same in the same wonderful web uh yeah no i had a friend who was the pothead in our group and he he drove through, he doesn't, we didn't live in a great County for pot, but then he drove through a really bad County for pot and was going two miles over the speed limit while being a Mexican American lethal injections all around one, but he didn't even have pot in his car, but the,

the was going through a County where paraphernalia was in there. Like, well, this is a pipe for pot. And we found, we and we found we say we found some residue so get in jail buddy i was never put in jail for drugs or anything like that but um when i was in kent ohio living there in grad school we were coming back from a um tim and eric live show in columbus i was driving back with friends and i was stone cold sober i didn't have

anything to drink because i'm responsible damn it and I guess I was going five miles over the speed limit. It was the dead of winter, like 10 degrees, probably colder than that. And the cop was like, can I search your car after he pulled me over for speeding? And I was like, well,

no, you're not going to search my car. I know my rights and nothing gets a cop better than when you know your rights. It's like, well, you just wait here. And then like,

he gets five other cars, a bunch of dogs. It's like, we've got probable cause now we're going to your car and we're all standing out in the cold we have to empty out our pockets and put them on like the hood of his police car and they're like they're tearing my car apart and the guy is like uh listen this will go a lot faster if you tell us where the drugs are i'm like there are no drugs i'm thinking well the drugs are in my apartment i'm gonna smoke them later uh but then yeah like there was no apology there was no uh we made a terrible mistake sir it was like well uh

you can go and like i'm sorry i was standing out in the cold for like 40 minutes while they were like dogs were going through my car they're just and also you know that they're on like a hair trigger to beat your ass yeah second yeah they i mean we were all white so we were kind of safe in that way but i went from that moment in, so we were kind of safe in that way, but I went from that moment in my life to being kind of naive, like, you know,

some cops are good to ACAB. I etched it on every wall I see. But hey, but if those guys had been jamming with you, then you would have changed your opinion.

Yeah, they were not cool. The end song of Wiggum, I guess it's both Hank Azaria's Wiggum and Lou. Going back and forth. Him is like, shut up, man. Shut up. Like, that's very, that sounds like it's all just Hank ad-libbing. It's all very funny. They said it was ad-libbing.

Yeah. So I'm like, shut up. I know this part. I know this part. Like, very, very well-observed stonery acting there. And I wonder what they were on when they wrote that man definitely is one of the better end credits fade-ins yeah and then they play it along again well that's also like the long opening they had a long credits too like i was not sped up

or anything they play yeah yeah and i have to say california we do have the best weed here it's like when i was getting ohio it was like crackling oat bran. It was like brown and dry. Now when you bite here, it's like, it's purple? Purple. It's purple and moist? Like what's happening? There's crystals on it? Red crystals? What's even going on? This was an expensive episode for song licenses to get Bob Marley and the Kinks. Like just Bob Marley by himself, his music cannot be cheap. Even a slightly less famous song like Jammin as opposed to, you know, Redemption Song or I Shot the Sheriff. But this, yeah, we kind of bagged on this episode.

There are funnier, there are some funny lines in here that I remember, but I remember them independent of this episode because it's just kind of a boring plot that needs a lot of excuses to really work. I mean, it genuinely has some classic, like the Milhouse line is one of his best lines, period. Yeah, the dog food bit is really funny,

like just how tortured and overly long it is and how it's all just a plan to get Barty dog food. Shut up, boy, like you pointed out is really funny. But yeah, like if you think we're being hard on this and we are being a bit hard on it, by their own admission, they don't think it's great if you listen to the commentary they're just like there are problems here are the problems we tried our best we're very tired we're at the end of our second season of episodes running the show etc etc so i think we they're in

agreement with us if anything uh any final thoughts anything they owe us any final thoughts on the episode just curious and if you have anything else to think about this the canine mutiny by the way title is based on a book and a movie that nobody cares about about a world war ii mutiny yeah i'm more down on the episode now than i was like years ago that's funny we do that with guests like i like sherry bobbins and then by the end you know what i think i hate sherry bobbins like when you look at the actual construction you can feel how short it is and how simultaneously short and strained it feels. But again, there are so many classic lines

and there are so many absolutely banger jokes that I'm sure I'll still remember this fondly regardless of how I come out of it. Every season eight episode is a good episode in some way. Yeah, there's still happy memories attached to it, yeah. But we can't, just because we love this era of the simpsons doesn't mean we can't we can let go our duty of judging this in a retrospective way that is fair i agree so imran you're a special guest can you tell our friends listening where to

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I love this song. Shut up. I love this song. Oh, yeah. Shut up, boo. I want to jam it with you. I'm jamming, jamming, and I hope you like jamming, too. Yeah.

When the rules ain't about, we can do it anyhow. I and I will see you through. See you through, bitch. Because every day we pay the price With the thing we sacrifice Charmin' to the Charmin' tool Charmin' to the Charmin' tool I can't really remember that

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