Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - The Wandering Juvie With Bryan Quinby

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

"All these years, I watched you turn our son into a time bomb, and yet I did nothing. So, in a way, I, too, am a victim... of you." - Homer Simpson A prank gone awry lands Bart in juvenile hall, where he becomes an unwitting escapee thanks to a new prison pal. Will he survive life as a fugitive? And, more importantly, is 2004 too late to parody The Defiant Ones? Our guest: Bryan Quinby from the Guys podcast Support this podcast and get over 200 ad-free bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod, not to mention Bluesky and Instagram!

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where we blame the Strangler. I'm one of your hosts, the Institute of Shut Your Fat Face graduate Bob Mackie, and this is our Chronological Exploration of the Simpsons. Who is here with me today as always? Henry Gilbert and I whittle what I seize. And who was our special guest on the line? I'm Brian and I have a bunch of monsters in my skin. And this week's episode is The Wandering Juvie. One slingshot, one pack of cards, baseball, one doodle, fartzilla, one harmonica.

Perfect mood-setter for the end of your freedom. This episode originally aired on March 28, 2004, and as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh my god! Oh boy, Bobby! The Republic of Ireland becomes the first country to ban tobacco smoking in all enclosed workspaces. The 13th and final episode of Strip-a-rella airs, and Scooby-Doo 2 Monsters Unleashed tops the box office. Fitting because this guest star on this episode

is in that movie. Was this viral marketing for Scooby-Doo 2 Monsters Unleashed this episode? I wonder if they were in the ear of it, though that was a Warner release and this is Fox, so it's not vertical integration, but perhaps it was time for the release of this. Yes. I can guarantee you. I was very mad about the indoor smoking vans happening. Like now

I get it back then. It was like, no, no, this is supposed to be a free country. You were all in on that South park episode about hating it being bad, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. I was so mad about it. I remember being like, oh, you can't tell a bartender like some kind of Republican, like you can't tell no bartender how to run his business. And now I'm like, oh, it's kinda nice not to have a bunch of smoking.

For some reason they're really furious at Rob Reiner for reasons I don't remember. General hate of a Hollywood liberal for sure. I mean, for the past 25 years worth of movies, you can hate Rob Reiner for reasons I don't remember. General hate of a Hollywood liberal for sure. I mean, for the past 25 years worth of movies, you can hate Rob Reiner. Maybe a 30, let's start at North and work our way from there. Yeah, Ireland had this ban first,

but it soon spread to other, at least white majority nations. This was Wikipedia that said the first country to do it. Maybe it is true, but I also bring it up because it is a plot point in the 2009 Simpsons episode in the name of the grandfather where Homer and Abe go to Ireland and learn you can't smoke in pubs anymore. Oh, so it might not have happened here until then. Ireland beat us to it in that regard.

For us, I think it was a state by state thing because I know in California it happened in the mid 90s, which is why John Swartzwater stopped writing in the Simpsons offices one of the main reasons I think it was like 94 and then in Ohio I believe it was 2006 because I do remember voting for that I remember being so mad that I actually know 2006 I had probably quit smoking and didn't care as much. I mean I probably was one of those guys That's like look. I don't smoke but I think people should be. So I'm sure that happened. But yeah, I mean, it is like jarring to go to places where you can smoke inside. Now it's crazy. I went

to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and I went to a bar and they let you smoke in there. Vegas, obviously. Oh, it makes you really want to smoke. That's the thing it gets to me. Now, I'm not a smoker, but I grew up with nothing but smokers. Every adult and authority figure in my life smoked. I don't know why I didn't end up smoking. So I'm kind of glad that it's gone. But when I've gone to Japan, where smoking is allowed in some spaces, you go to a tiny bar and the bartender is smoking and the scent is just very nostalgic and comforting to me just because it reminds me of being young and everyone just smoking like chimneys and dying before the age of 70.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I miss it. You know, the last times I've been to Tokyo, I've noticed that even they have cut down on like there have been new laws about fewer areas allowing smoking. There's more dedicated like smoking boxes in on the public streets instead of just everybody smoking. But that went to the second last time I was in Tokyo. One of the themes of this place in, in a Shinjuku, which used to be where everybody smoked. It's like the nightclub district. It was like, this is a Kaya where it's still allowed to smoke.

And I hated it. I was like, I couldn't be there for more than 40 minutes anymore. I was like, I can't breathe. I have to go. Yeah. I mean, I still smoked when I was in vague. I had picked smoking back. I quit smoking in 2006 and then picked it back up again in like 2016. I think so. Like I still smoked when I went to Vegas and I was like, this is so cool. Just sitting in a room gambling and smoking. It was so relaxing to me. Well not relaxing You know when you're gambling is less than relaxing, but yeah, I loved it, but I don't think I'm gonna do it ever again I think I'm out on smoking and Stan Lee created strip Arella the Pam Anderson animated series and its end marks the end also of spike TVs

Attempts to have an adult swim Mercy killing of that programming block. Now, Henry, did your love of Stan Lee cause you to tune in? And also, I have never watched this. Is there Stan Lee narration that kicks things off? Yes to both of those. I only watched the first episode though. This was, I mean, Stan Lee for the last 30 years of his life kind of did nothing and

also kind of got scammed himself, but was part of scams of selling things as like, Stan Lee creates whatever. But yeah, Strip-a-rella and now, you know, everybody loves Pam Anderson and people view her, I think, in a better light. But yeah, the Strip-a-rella, I watched that first night of it just to see, oh, this is the Adult Swim answer. Also, back then, I was excited to see the idea of more Ren and Stimpy with John Crickfelluzzi back in charge. Of course, that was horrible. It was a terrible show and created by a horrible man. I'm trying to find the programming block. So, Strip-a-rella, Ren and Stimpy.

And we cannot forget Gary the Rat, the Kelsey Grammar vehicle. It's a Franz Kafka's Metamorphosis style tale in which a lawyer wakes up as a rat. Maybe I'm just making it more interesting. Maybe he always was a rat, but I like my idea better. Gary the Rat. I don't remember that at all. The only thing I really remember from Spike is Mansers, which I think is just because it's a funny name.

I don't think I ever even watched Mansers, but the name is so funny You must have followed raw to spike TV though, right? Oh, I was out on wrestling actually I did watch a little bit of TNA on spike TV because It was when Kevin Nash and all those guys were there So I did watch a little bit of that most of my spike watching I would think The only thing you really remember is that show where they would put two people up against each other in battle

you know what I mean like I can't remember but they'd be like who would win the Roman oh right the Spartans are like the Green Berets or something like that and you'd be like oh I'm curious about that I remember the name of the show you know I never look much in the strip-a-rella, and maybe we'll cover it on What a Cartoon, but I see that they got some top-tier talent. Some episodes are directed by Kevin Altieri from Batman the Animated Series,

so they were spending money on this. They were not treating this like a Gary the Rat project. It's the closest to a real show they did. They spent real money on it. It has overseas production. It's not done in flash and I think too is as I recall they made it to be sold in an unrated edition so you did actually get to see boobies if you purchase the DVD in it like they don't just tease it and it was 2004 so you were saying the word boobies. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh God, we just had a, we just did milk guys and the word boobies came up so many times. It's a crazy word for adults to say now. But I mean, back then, you know, people were saying boobies all the time. Yeah, Scooby-Doo 2 Monsters Unleashed starring Sarah Michelle Gellar along with others. Her husband, Freddie Prince Jr., plays Freddie in it.

But of course, most importantly, it's where Matthew Lillard became Shaggy, and he has been Shaggy to this day. He's pretty much Shaggy in the majority of Scooby-Doo productions. And so this- Wait, was he not Shaggy in the first movie? No, he was too, I'm saying, sorry.

He's continuing, yes. Okay, but I became, I'm not sure if you meant he started the role or he truly embodied the role. I think this is when it set up that like, no, Matthew Lillard is shaggy. This is when he truly became shaggy. But this beat lady killers at the box office, the Cohen brothers, the lesser, lesser Cohen brothers films starring Tom Hanks. And yet I still kind of like it because I always like seeing their group of regulars be idiots in their films.

Can I say that like, I saw Scooby-Doo one in the theaters on opening day at fucking noon. I couldn't even wait for the nighttime. I needed to see Scooby. Because I, growing up and my friends make fun of me, I think it's because they're a little younger than me, but I loved like Hannah Barbera stuff that was like the animation that like grabbed me and, and

what I love, they were all like, Oh, well, you don't like X-Men and stuff like that. And I'm like, no, I didn't. I like Scooby-Doo. He was cool. I remember seeing that had a lunch with my friend at Johnny Rockets and then walked over to the Linux and saw The first showing of scooby-doo on opening day and loved it by the way was just raving about it I did not see two though. So I don't know what happened. I had a kid in 2004, but I don't know

Between there, you know what? I guess I know I know people like these movies and I'm sure they're fun, but I never saw them because by the time the first one came out, I felt like I had seen everyone's Scooby-Doo parody already. Where can we innovate in the Scooby-Doo parody space? I'm not seeing it. I was so online, like a lot less at this time. Well, I was on forums, but there were like Opie and Anthony forums and like Howard Stern forums and Deaf Tones like tower stern forums and, uh, death tones and corn forum. So like those were the only places I was at and those

were not. So I just grew up watching Scooby-Doo. So there were two types of Scooby-Doo. I'm telling you guys like, like I'm telling you something new. There was Scooby-Doo with celebrities and then Scooby-Doo without celebrities. And I don't remember, but as a kid, I always knew if it was the Scooby-Doo with celebrities, and I loved it. So much more than Scooby-Doo without celebrities. I don't know the difference though. Like Dick Cavett would be on them and stuff like that. Don Knotts, Mamba Cass, Sandy Dunst, Batman and Robin.

Now, Henry can verify, were these the new Scooby-Doo movies and were they an hour long? Yes, I believe that was pitch of like, they had to put new in the titles after like six years of Scooby-Doo because they were rerunning old Scooby-Doo so much that they would put new in the title to be like, it was same with like the new Batman adventures

were around the same time. Well, growing up in Ohio, if you're my age, you have like a connection also to the Hannah Barbera stuff because Kings Island is an amusement park in Cincinnati. And at that time, it was all decked out in Hanna Barbera more than anything else. Like, you know, the roller coaster, the kiddie roller coaster was a Hanna Barbera theme. It tricked me into going on it getting very scared as a kid. But yeah. And I think that's the other thing too, is just like, you know, winning of Fred Flintstone plush was just the most incredible thing to me when I was.

Seven years old, but Fred Flintstone's so cool. Like, like I said, my friends treated it. Listen, I'll just say it. My friend treated it like I was gay that I watched Hannah Barbera cartoons. That's the way they pushed me And I was like whatever dude But I love them. I love wacky races because i'm a sucker That's why the marvel cinematic universe has me ensnared and it's all the crossover

Yeah, I love crossovers and I know they're not even rare anymore I kind of stomach kind of our bar bar cartoons But I got really invested in laugh olympics because in my kid brain it felt like this was not a predetermined event It could go any way. Yeah I love that stuff the laugh Olympics killed me. I just recently started searching for USA cartoon Express, which was like Just such an important thing to me When I was a kid to see if there were like any YouTube

Documentaries about her and there's not really there's one guy that kind of did one that it's just a guy reading a Wikipedia page I want to learn more about the USA Cartoon Express because that is where like so much of my animation stuff came from was you know the hair bear bunch and and stuff came from was, you know, the hair bear bunch and and jabber jaws and stuff. I do have a small bit of history on that. I remember from doing previous research on this that like that USA had all the Hanna-Barbera stuff and they were this close to buying the Hanna-Barbera library to have it forever on the Cartoon Express but then they got outbid by Ted Turner and once they lost Hanna-Barbera to Ted Turner and they go to Cartoon Network, the Cartoon Express starts slowing down and they can't rebuild without all of

the Hanna Barbera characters. Well, they're putting a bunch of crap on it. Like not crap, but like, you know, they're just putting stuff like that was on another channel already. You know, that was the good thing about the documentary was the guy explaining like, well, then they started putting like, you know, I don't remember what the cartoon, but cartoons that were from the network Saturday morning blocks. So they'd already been out and then you would watch them later. But I was just like, I was so into like Saturday morning cartoons. Again, the Hannah Barbera stuff that like like, for me, like I don't like the action cartoons. Like I'd never watch them. I never watched like Johnny Quest. I never watched like the X-Men or,

I didn't even like Transformers, you know? I liked GoBots though. That's what happened this week, this episode of The Simpsons aired. And you couldn't stomach all of this anti-action cartoon blasphemy. Yeah, yeah, I'm evil. I am just no action cartoon Brian, ever. Yeah, yeah, I'm evil. I am just no action

cartoon Brian ever. That's why I don't want to end me. And joining us this week. Now we have to continue this conversation. But let's put a bookmark in that interest of the guest here. Joining us this week is Brian Quimby from the podcast guys. Welcome back to the show Brian. Brian was last here for season thirteen is the old man and the key and then before that the Christian or Maude Flanders is right Christian right. I'm going to praise

land. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that one more than other one and this one I never saw 2004. I would have been watching two episodes of the Simpsons a day at 5 PM on the Fox affiliate and then not watching the new stuff ever. Well, you just mentioned, Brian, you were either a new father

or on your way towards being a new father. There's no time for season 15 of The Simpsons. My wife was pregnant at this time. She had informed me that she was pregnant. Baby was born in October. I guess that she hadn't informed me. She probably informed me in January, I would guess. I don't know.

But yeah, I was having a baby. And also a political awakening where I was like, oh, this is John Kerry, he's a great guy. So I was on that road too. Hey, I think we all had that bumper sticker. Yeah. Around this time. Oh yeah, my Kerry Edwards one deeply embedded

on my bumper sticker in Florida too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I have a picture of my daughter when she was born with a Carrie Edwards sticker on her Like laying down like like that's one of the first things I thought Gotta get her into the Democrats. You know that all turned out great. Yeah Well, I thought this episode would be a good fit for you Brian Even though you haven't seen it because this is about juvenile delinquency and you've, you've had some fun stories you share. One, I've never been to jail, which that is like not something I should have to ever say, but I often have to say I've never been to jail because I think many people believe I've been to

jail at least for a day. And I did give a jail advice because I knew a guy that would go to jail because I think many people believe I've been to jail at least for a day. And I did give a jail advice because I knew a guy that would go to jail all the time and the advice is bring Kool-Aid. Just bring Kool-Aid and magazine and you'll get through it. You know? Yeah. My brother would get thrown in jail. He would get some like the suspended sentence the sentence where it's like, Oh, you can go home and, you know, do your fucking thing and then come to jail. You know what I mean? Which is a crazy thing. I don't know how that works, but he would go and he would just get us packets of Kool-Aid and a bunch of like magazines and just, he's like, you just sit there and read and give people Kool-Aid. It's not that bad. But yeah, I never went and I wasn't in a violence gang either. My co-host says that and it's a lie. And I wasn't in a violence gang either. My co-host says that, and it's a lie. Now, you see, I've actually been to juvenile hall,

not as an offender. I've heard these stories where people say, oh, on my class trip, we went to Disneyland, or we went to Paris, or we visited the Smithsonian. My class went to juvenile hall because the idea was, what's to be done with the MTV generation? They were so worried about us. And I think it was active. This juvenile hall was an active juvenile hall. We didn't see any offenders or anybody who

had been in prison, any child, but it was really like a scared straight thing. And what I remember most is it didn't work on us. And on the bus ride back, we were all making jokes about everything we saw there. And the teacher cried. Oh, I mean, you're not mature enough to understand how serious. Yeah. Juvenile. And I did have a lot of friends that, I had a guy named Jeremy that went all the fucking time.

He went to jail probably six times. Hey, he's just a troubled kid, you know, weird dad and stuff like that. But like, yeah, I was a bad kid. I would probably have categorized myself as a bad kid. I don't think there's any question because I loved doing bad things. Like I just thought it was the best thing in the world to be bad. Like from day one, like from day one of school, I saw a kid get in trouble. I was like, there's

a freedom in that. You know what I mean? That's how I think I looked at it was like, if I don't give a shit about the grades and I don't care about getting in school suspension, what are you going to do? I really envy the bad kids and their freedom because I just had too much anxiety to even flirt with the idea of being bad. But the other juvenile hall story I remember is there were two like classic bad kids from my high school. And they surprised me because I guess in order to win over the popular kids, they went to the rival school and they surprised me because I guess in order to win over the popular kids they went to the rival school and vandalized a certain portion of it I forget what it was and because of that they were expelled and they went to juvenile hall and I do remember this very distinctly I saw

them in the mall one day and it was a very awkward encounter because I was like oh hey guys so where are you going to school now and the response was we don't go to school. Yeah. So it was delivered in the butthead voice by the way. I went to a school that I have since found out was not normal. The popular kids were the bad kids. I think that's a sort of thing that happens because like, again, you see these people with this freedom, this fucking, I don't even come to school sometimes. Sometimes I don't even go, I just fucking skip it and go do something else with my girlfriend or whatever. And people are like, wow, that are, you know, my big thing was smoking in the bathroom. We love smoking in the bathroom. It just was, I know we were addicted to cigarettes

at the time. I'm not saying that, but I think we were more addicted to the smoking at school. You know what I mean? The thrill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I did a lot of like time and in school suspension. There was like a process. There was like a cycle where it's like, okay, you just got caught smoking. You get in school suspension for three days. You get caught again. You get suspended for three days. You get caught again. You get suspended for 10 and it's like suspension was just my parents would

get real mad if I got suspended. So I only got suspended a few times, but the kids that were just like, I'm always suspended. I was just like, you're so fucking lucky. But later on in life, you see those kids. There's a kid that we grew up with. I talk about him sometimes on guys and he dropped out of school in the 10th grade and he sat in his bedroom and he smoked weed all day. That's all he did. He just smoked weed and smoked cigarettes. There was nothing else going on in that room. He was watching TV, a lot of Simpsons. I watched a lot of Simpsons, a lot of wrestling over at his house and his parents would just get him weed and give it to him and he would just sit in his room.

It was just like a shut in. And I remember we would always sit around and talk and be like, Jared's the smartest guy we know. And he dropped out of school. You don't even fucking need school. You know what I mean? And then we're hanging out one night sitting on his water bed smoking weed. And he just says like two or three things where I'm like, Jared's a moron. He's an incredibly stupid man. And it was just like that's when you start to figure out like,

oh shit, I'm kind of stupid. There are people who figure out they're kind of stupid and then there are people that never do and we basically live in a country of A bunch of people who never figure that out and never try to learn anything, you know Yeah, we have to fear the confident stupid person now Henry I know you were not in a violence game, but it sounds like you're in a mischief group after high school I was the meek nerd of the mischief is boys group Yeah, I see like jackass guys who like the guys Brian is talking

about remind me of a couple guys I could name too, but they were guys who also grew up to be like bad deadbeat dads, like shitty people. And that, that was like the slow revelation for me of like the cool kids did turn out to, or at least the ones who are like, oh, the bad boys. Bart gets to live forever as a 10 year old. They, he doesn't grow up to like graduate from a weed user to weed seller to hard drug seller to multiple time incarcerated guy. That doesn't happen to Bart. He's living the Grove port lifestyle though. I will say that that's where I grew up. And what I mean by that is like he's bad. He's always getting in trouble. First of all, the beginning of this episode, I know I probably talked about it. It feels incongruous because like I've seen Bart Simpson do way worse things

than like set up a wedding registry. You know what I mean? And that's the thing that he like, he ends up getting in trouble for. It's funny. I actually found this episode to be, I laughed out loud a few times, which never happened. There's some good jokes. And it's interesting that with as bad as Bart is, they did not come up with the idea of him going to juvenile hall until season 15, which I think that's why the prank is kind of lackluster because they've done 15 years worth of big pranks with Bart. So they have to figure out the one that will get him in juvie. And it can't possibly be bigger than some of the things he's done in the past. And Groveport connection is he hooks up with a girl in juvie that's also bad.

And it's like, oh, it just, it read like my first girlfriend. I was just like over the moon with that. It really was like a nostalgia thing with me and my first girlfriend just standing in the back of the parking lot at school smoking cigarettes. Bobby right. They had threatened to Bart with juvenile hall many times in the series, but this was the time they finally did it. This was pitched by the guys who wrote it, the late Don Payne and also John Frank. I said that I've already, it'll sound like they're both dead. John Frank and the late Don Payne. And this was their last one written together

because pain would leave to go over to they would still work separately but also Don Payne wrote a lot of movies after this too. Yeah yeah their partnership ended it sounded amicably I mean based on how you get paid on a show like this it sounds like you make more money when you're not part of a team. Yeah team split paycheck so honestly this amicable splitting is basically both of them like getting a raise. Like it's like, Hey, can you guys break up as writers so you can both get paid double maybe that's smart though. That's what me and John, my cohost

on the pod cast are always like these guys and slipknot are idiots. There's nine of them. They have to split nine ways. All of the money plus probably other that money probably get split like 15 ways Is my I mean look at Arcade fire. It's like a traveling circus Yeah, that's what you don't see the polyphonic spree touring anymore Don Payne would go on to write my super ex-girlfriend and rise of the silver surfer to crummy movies no offense to the late Well, unfortunately, he didn't live long enough to write good movies. He probably would have at some point.

He would have probably written the new woke Fantastic Four with the female silver surfer, which I follow a guy. I don't know if you've ever heard of him, these big news guys, his name's Mike Zero. Oh, I know. He's very unhappy with the female surfer. So Mel Gibson, he said Mel Gibson just went off on her. I mean, even if you hate the idea, isn't that just hotter to look at? Listen, I'm with you. I look at a hot silver surfer lady. I'm totally

fine with that. But Mel Gibson's not. and neither is Tom Cruise. According to my only entertainment news source, Mike, who is a huge liar, but my favorite liar. I will say like, that's another kind of bad kid. I really like is the competent liar. I was too trusting of those. My mom would tell me those were bad kids of like, no, this kid is lying. He's not going to pay you back. If you let him borrow this, he'll never bring it back. I was like, mom, it's my friend. He wouldn't lie. They always lied. My mom was right. I've apologized to her many times for trusting bad kids. She told me we're bad. I think my favorite lie ever was this guy, Mark. He used to lie all the time. He lied about everything. He told us he's adopted, which was very clearly not true. He looked exactly like his dad. Like he was probably the worst

person in the whole world to say he's adopted because of like, I could say it. I don't look a lot like my dad. I could probably get away with it. But yeah, he said, but one day he was like, he wanted to be a bad kid so bad, but he didn't have it in him. He didn't have the like drive to be bad so he would lie about bad things he did and he was like me and my friends we broke into Buster Douglas's car and we stole his ring for beating Mike Tyson and two thousand dollars and I never thought about it until later like why would Buster Douglas have that in his car? But he chose him because he's a Columbus guy. So, you know, Oh, what's a guy that lives in Columbus that we can rob that everybody knows? And then that he told the story. I thought it

was cool for like one day and then I was like, Hmm, I think he's lying. It was Al Jean's pitch that this would then turn into a Defiant Ones parody, which he was a little, he was worried that was overdone like everybody has done, which is two prisoners chained together and they have to figure out how to get along. I would bet it had been done before in some other thing, but the early sixties film, The Defiant Ones is kind of what made it famous. Tony Curtis and Sydney Poitier? Poitier. Poitier. And I hadn't seen it. I'd only seen the references. I decided I pulled

it up on good old Tooby and watched it recently. It is a good movie. I think for its time, especially. It is a very obvious race metaphor about race in America, but you know what? It's the early 60s kind of need to be pretty obvious, I think. Yeah. I guess if you wait 50 years to do your parody, the source material just kind of lost the time and the idea just becomes just a very basic public domain idea. Yeah. You can name like eight other movies that are like this off the top of your head. Well, the first one I think of is the Adam Sandler, Damon Wayans movie, the bulletproof bulletproof. Yes

I love that one. I didn't watch the run. Oh midnight run. Yeah Yeah, and I didn't watch the fine ones Henry Did they go over a waterfall in that movie? They walk through a river and get separated and it really does seem rough for the actors Like it has to kind of be a real change So they actually are when they're having to like pull themselves out of a muddy hole It really seems like boy this is gonna like rip their shoulder out It has to look kind of real if you like good acting and I was actually thinking of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

I'm sorry. Oh, right. They weren't that good. That's why it's a joke in the episode that there's a million like it But sadly missing from the commentary is Laura McMullen, though, you know, he's very, El Jean, always very complimentary of her. Don Payne also not there, likely perhaps because he's struggling with the health issues that he'll pass away from in March of 2013. Like this is within about 18 months of his death, I think is when they would have been recording it.

And this commentary is really just a memorial for Charles Napier, who, he died in October of of 2011 so I guess he just recently passed when they recorded this and he plays the warden we've heard him before as another warden with the same design and also he was Duke Phillips on the critic. He's the best on that the Ted Turner man on it oh and if you have your DVDs you can pull out the animatic for act 3 though there really aren't any major differences. I'll mention the like two that are there, but there's pretty, pretty low on changes from this one. So we start with a couch gag of the Polaroid, which, you know, the Polaroid company had

already gone bankrupted in 2001, so Polaroid was on its way out. Actually, I don't think I asked you this on the other thing. What is the process? How do they just have a list of couch gags that they just are constantly adding to? Cause I'll say this. I have a list of episodes of guys to do. I have a list of guys and I've run through like, I mean I've run through 123 of them and I still have, you know, I'm still coming up with ideas all the time, but like how close do they, I guess, how close do they get to being done and not having an

idea I guess is my question. And how often do they repeat? Because I feel like they have to sort of repeat, like there has to be another kind of Polaroid or picture-taking gag. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think traditionally they've done, so there are 22 episodes in the season, they'll do 11 or 12 couch gags. And now for the past decade, they've often offloaded those onto other creators

to make viral videos. So it's like, hey, John Chris Felucci, can you make two couch gags? Or Bill Plimpton or Eric Goldberg, all of these animation folks. Banksy did one. So I feel like now this is a place where viral content can be fostered

instead of them having to think of new ideas. But yeah, I'm sorry. Cause I was like, like in my mind, I was like, they haven't done the Polaroid gag 15 seasons in. Like the thing about it is I am always afraid of running out of ideas. Like it's like one of my worst fears that one day I'm just gonna wake up and like I don't have any more ideas. So the the couch gag works on that kind of anxiety with me where it's like

who knows but I guess if they're outsourcing them then that's kind of cool. Well we have noticed Brian they have not stopped the couch gags but for the past three or four seasons they are mostly done with the blackboard gags. I think they're like, there's nothing more to be done here. We've kind of done everything and now like there are tweets and blue sky posts and other people can do this kind of short form sentence long humor a lot better than having Bart write something. That's actually really good point, actually. At this time on the show in season 15 that I think they just would batch

them all together at once. They never even thought of like the couch gags would also be a different length. So I think they just plugged in like this episode has time for a 10 second couch gag. This one has only time for a three second one, you know? Oh yeah. I never even think I always just assume that they were all the same length, but you're right. They're like totally different. I don't't know I like the blackboard one does seem I mean it's such an amount of ideas like the ep even just the idea of them they're in like their 30 something is season we just ended 36 we're about to roll into 37 like in October or something they're not ending it ever. No, no, they renewed up to 40, so get working on those couch gags, guys.

That's my worry. I'm worried for them. You know, like, hey, you're gonna run out. That's a lot of effort. Well, now they can just recreate old ones in HD. Yeah. That's true. Do they still do the same amount of episodes? Like, are they still doing,

or have they done what everybody does and be like, oh, we're doing 12 this year? I think they're down to 18 and now the newer seasons will have is it 15 Henry? Yeah, you know, it was, I think the production for 33 was still like the 22 number, but then they aired fewer ones. That's why they had Disney plus originals. And now I think they've just, yes, for the next four seasons, they've only renewed for 15 episodes per season. So they have cut back Simpsons. Well, and one of the things that I've learned over the past two years because of my show is that like South Park fans are furious at the amount of South Park are like truly out of their mind angry about the amount of South Park. And I wonder if that's happening

because I'm personally like annoyed with the short season stuff. You know, like the short season that takes three years to come out. I don't know. I don't remember anything. Everybody's like, and or is really great. I don't remember the first season at all. Like, I don't know who anybody is except for the main guy in that show. The Andor is very helpful with its previously odds. I think I'm going to do that because I thought it would open with one of those. And I'd be like, Oh, okay. I remember this lady and that guy or whatever, whatever's going on. There's like a big wedding happening.

And I'm like, I didn't even know anybody was getting married. You know, with, with South park, I think they have been doing very few. They maybe are going to start ramping up again because very soon it's not going to be on HBO Max slash Max anymore. Jesus Christ. It was a five year window they had and that de incentivize them for making new ones because Paramount was telling him, no, no, if you make them, then it's, it doesn't help Paramount. It helps HBO. So don't do that. So, uh, soon that's gonna. Yeah. Cause I did notice they're on Paramount and HBO for some reason. And it just feels like when I read the forum posts and stuff like that, it's like, Oh, so they're not going

to do any more episodes. They're just going to do one of these stupid fuck it. They're mad cause they make these movies now on one of the other things like these hour fuck it. They're mad because they make these movies now. I'm one of the other things like these hour long episodes and then they don't get half hour episodes. So I just had wondered like, is there any talk in the Simpsons universe of, Hey, why aren't they making 23 episodes anymore? But I think all the people watching, I will say this because I think a lot of the people still watching it are like super fans in the way that like my niece has seen every episode. I wonder if the audience is just everything is so niche now and like it's a lot of super

fans watching that they're just like, I'll take what I can get. Yeah, I think it's once you make almost 800 episodes, that's basically an infinite amount of episodes. Your brain cannot contain all that information. So eventually they will be new again if you watch them all. True. I love those ones I used to watch after work. I just, I'll never forget. I'm gonna never forget the one with the factory where they play gonna make you sweat at the end of the episode. I laughed at that so hard for years and it would cycle back on to the syndication. And every time I'd be like, Katie, it's the factory.

Come and watch it with me. Stay tuned everybody. 2028. We will cover it again. The episode begins with the Simpsons go to a slightly fancier department store. We also start with a vision of a hobo with season 15 loves hobos. They really, they have so many like drunk, unhoused people. And they got me laughing and made me laugh though.

Bart not upset by someone stealing his sign gag, but he appreciates it. I love his over-laugh because it's them kind of making fun of like, this took too much work and is it that funny? No, but Bart laughs too much at it. Homer is stepped on and says, damn, this resilient economy. This is a real post 9-11 joke here, I suppose. Yeah. We have a quick joke about Lisa being grossed out by how little girls dress to grown up,

which they did that in Lard of the Dance. And then mentioning South Park, this reminded me that like later in 2004 is the episode quote, stupid spoiled whore video playset, which is the, the Paris Hilton episode with Mr. Slave. If I, and Lemmy wings, if you remember. I was actually, yeah, I was thinking about this the other day that like in the early two thousands of place open in Columbus called Mikey's late night slice. It's a pizza shop. And one of their sauces had Paris Hilton on the bottle and it was called slut sauce. God damn.

And then like three years later, they were like, maybe this will be called unicorn sauce. And they changed the name. But I just remember like five years being like going up there, hey, can I get some sauce too? Now, yeah, we covered Lard of the Dance in 2000, oh, sorry, it's a 98 episode, right, Henry? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Was that the official beginning of parents being worried about how girls were dressing? At least that was my experience. And then I feel like every five years, there's a new shock, like, can you believe what they're wearing? Yes. Well, and that was also the really bad time

where guys would count down the ages of young actresses and stuff, you know what I mean? That was also part of that too. Oh yeah, we mentioned that a few episodes ago, the Olsen twins countdown clock thing that was so big back in the early aughts, yes. I mean that sassy bitch tee, I wonder, are the youngsters wearing sassy bitch te's as much these days. Brian, you've

my daughter is very modest and she is not wearing a sassy bitch. I guess I don't know because my daughter and her boyfriend have a dirtier sense of humor, but that also might be because I have a dirtier sense of humor. You know what I mean? Like they're just in this house where say stuff like sucking and fucking and stuff like that It seems like they're exposed to more stuff That's that better taste of music young people have the greatest taste in music fully Understand that you can like all kinds of different music unlike when I was growing up. You could not like all kinds of different We had our silos

There's a very funny scene. I love Marge going to the beauty counter. I think it's very, the way she's being upsold, all of the, like, it contains over 60 ingredients. Ooh! Yes, yes, I love that one. The 60 ingredients was, it's so good. And it's a nice Simpsons touch that there is a monster in her face and she's concerned about its children when it's drowned in lotion.

Yeah. Also like, he's eating my beauty. It is set up like an infomercial where Marge is immediately too invested in the item. A real monster. It's not just a commercial. It's like, no, if you could zoom in on your face as much, you would see this sci-fi monster lives in your face. In a lower moment in the show, uh, talk about dirty jokes. Homer shits in the dressing room. Like there's no other way to read this. That is true.

Yeah. Yeah. He's not whacking off in there. He's definitely shitting. It's one of the weaker character confuses another room for a bathroom joke. So the Simpsons has done four or five to date. Yeah. This elevator only goes to the basement and someone made an awful mess down there.

Ha ha ha. Homer hosing off the tool shed after Abe says it's an outhouse. This is where in our first clip, we also get a check in on a running story arc from season 15, the impending nuptials of Edna and Seymour. Edna, we don't need wedding china. The dish is mother one on Let's Make a Deal or Her Holding holding up nicely. Seymour, if we register for these dishes, our wedding guests will buy them for us. And I suppose those wedding guests will also

pay for dishwashing liquid, heated water, and two-sided sponges? Silent anger, the cornerstone of a successful marriage. Obviously that is not a good marriage. No, we get blamed for crediting too many jokes to Dana Gould even when the commentary does that to back us up, but this does have the fumes of a Dana Gould joke. Yes, silent anger, the cornerstone of a successful marriage, a great line,, enjoy this folks, because next episode is the end of Edna and Seymour. So this is the last one

of them. Yeah, a terrible choice. I can't wait to scream about it next time. And then Skinner, they're a good couple. I'm sad to see this is the, but the jokes like this are the point of like, if they actually got married, it would be bad. Like this joke is the argument against them being married. I do like that they did some serialized. They were starting in 2004 to be like, maybe we can tell longer stories sometimes.

I don't know how often they do it, but having something that happened that affects another thing is really that's cool. That's like 2004, 2005, 2006 is when I started being like, I want every show to be serialized. I don't want to watch anything that isn't like leading into the next week. You know what I mean?

Now it's a curse. We can't escape serialization. I know. And it's crazy because you look at a show like poker face and how successful that fucking show is. And you're like see People you can do it you can and the only episodes. I don't like a poker face are the ones that are about

The Benjamin Brack character and all that stuff like those are the only episodes I don't like it's a serialized one around this time I was way into rest of development and I would try to get friends into it But my argument would be if you saw the other 30 episodes, you will be cracking up at this. Yes, you'd be losing your mind. Do you want the DVDs? I have the DVDs and just like shoving them in their faces. This it really is pre this is like the very end of of like everything having to feed into like it was so rare to have crossovers before the MCU started it started doing it all the time and like 2012 Avengers comes out in like

2012 and I think once that comes out, it's just like now everything's got to tie into everything else. But this is like that early time where it's still like really special when you have somebody from one show show up on another show. Like when I was really little, they used to trick me into watching like golden girls and empty nest because they fed it. Like one of the guys from empty nest was going to be on golden girls. I was like, damn, that's yeah. Or, or like Chandler is going to appear on the single guy or Caroline in the city. So I watched one of those. Urkel's going to fly to every TGIF show on a jet pack.

Yeah, I loved that. And now I'm like, yeah, you can just make them. But you just make a movie, just make one movie that doesn't have a sequel and doesn't feed into like another universe. Has like a post credit scene where they like wink at you and say, you might see the GoBots next month. And it's like, what the fuck? The last few Marvel films basically have ended now for me

with like, well, this is the movie you want to see, isn't it? They should just end with a QR code where you scan it to buy your ticket to the next movie. Just be honest about it. Yeah, sell you like a package where that's like way too expensive, where you get to see all the next 25 movies.

I do think that stuff's coming close to being like a little less. Like I think it's becoming a little less. I think that some people are starting to go to the theater for standalone movies that aren't based on some kind of IP. We were celebrating it for Sinners this year. That was a rarity. It was still made by a Marvel guy. Well, I don't think Ryan Coogler would like being called a Marvel guy. He isn't, but he's famous to most people for, if not for Marvel films, then for Creed. Like that's

his two things. I saw friendship. I ruled. I love friendship. It's so funny. And the theater was packed and everybody was laughing. My husband and I now do say like, we got to go see the new Marvel. It's supposed to be insane. Yes. Yeah. But I think that's like a good sign. Sinners and that just make like three or four things and people will be like, oh, okay And then you can start making movies again instead of crossover events, which aren't special anymore at all This is where Bart figures out his wedding registry scam, which this feels more like writers writing about expensive Hollywood weddings I don't know. I guess people were regular people were doing wedding registry stuff like this man

I had a wedding registry, but it wasn't I mean the modern version is you make an Amazon wishlist 2004 version is you register with a store and then your friends go to that store and the store has registry so you can see What has been purchased what has been purchased? See Henry you failed by not milking all of your friends for all they were worth Henry we got fucked. I'll tell you that right now for all they were worth. Henry, we got fucked. I'll tell you that right now.

I need to do a renew the vows thing to try and cash in. Both got fucked. I didn't have a big wedding either. You know, I had it in my living room. My brother is a lawyer, so he was able to ordain it. Oh, nice. That was it. No sort of like no party, no nothing.

Like we had our family come over to the house. We didn't get any money, we didn't get anything, we ate Baja Fresh and then moved on. I feel like I wanna do a renew my vows. Like I've been with my wife for like 20 years. We had a COVID wedding with the legal maximum amount of witnesses on hand, so we got lots of pity gifts. I'll say this, I love the Amazon thing.

I think that to me is like, I think people get more gifts from me now because I can just open up Amazon and be like, well, I got that and that, you know? Although crossing the border is, like I had to get Chris one, a baby shower gift, and it was nearly impossible to do on Amazon to send something on Amazon from the US to Canada is not easy.

As Bart learns his scam, this is where we get another season 15 regular thing, which is the algae music montage this time to Billy Idol's white wedding, which I'm still testing. Is this too obvious or is the point of it that it's obvious to use White Wedding? Like it's more clever than I think. I think it's a little calm, a little calm B. It is an obvious choice, but I think they're kind of winking at you. Like, can you believe we use this song for this montage? But ultimately I wish they would have, you know, been a little more creative.

But this era is all about what's the most obvious song we can use. And you're going to laugh when you hear it. I really love the slow-mo animation on Bart with the double gun like Matrix style. Like that was cool, the animators had fun there. Yeah, I liked that too. Bart and Milhouse celebrate that they're gonna collect a bunch of store credit and Lenny also gets a lot

in this first act too. Lenny is already going in on a spoon with Bernsy. I also love, speaking of new lows, like I said with Homer said with Homer mayor Quinn B is I wrote Quinn B in my notes not him be sorry Brian Oh, I you've probably heard me complain about this when I did stand-up comedy Fucking every time I got introduced. They'd be like vote Quinn B Before this podcast I was writing the patreon post for this and I did write Quimby and then immediately corrected myself. I felt terrible.

I'm very weird about like I've done podcasts where they got my first name wrong and I'm like, you know what, don't worry about it. We're all good. I write the descriptions now and I just Google everybody that I'm writing because I need to know I need to get it right. But yeah, people get my name wrong all the time. I'm too awkward to tell them that. Now you see, Brian, when I get your name wrong, I replace the M with an N.

But with some of our friends of the show, like Eric Siska, that's a name you gotta Google every time. I still have not run my mind around the consonants in that one, sorry, Eric. I know he's been living with that his whole life. And this is where Mayor Quimby hits a new low that he is accidentally dating his niece. Like he knows the joke has gone too far. He has to just stop and reflect. Like I'm a monster. Though it's impressive Bart got Mayor Quimby to come to his fake wedding. Like he aimed high on this fake wedding registry. As I was watching, I was like, all of these things are not good gifts, but also he's

trying to get store credit, which I found to be like such a funny gag because nobody likes store credit. Everybody hates store credit. It makes everybody mad. I was just thinking about this prank. I wish it would have been a little more elevated because it's Bart's name on the invitation. This is just getting too nitpicky, but everybody here knows who Bart is.

So I feel like Bart should have put like, oh, Wayland Smithers is getting married. And everyone's like, wow, he's finally getting married. It's been so long. There should have been some other element to it because I feel like these people have all met and interact with Bart and they know he's a child. That's the only way they can explain

that Wiggum figured this out because it was too obvious that even an idiot like chief wigam can figure out it was like a little bit like Why was he trying to suffocate the whole time like I guess his carelessness, but it's just an odd It is like it heightens to the point where like he's gonna kill some people Yes, I think he just wanted to incapacitate them so he could escape, but this is the one time Wiggum is one step ahead. I love Willy sucking the air out of Moe, like violently like kissing him, but not actually. Just that Willy forcing his lips upon Moe is very funny drawing. Very good. We learned that what

does the Springfield badge say? Cash bribes only, which Wiggum says out loud to make it easy for us non-readers out there. Like Homer's illiterate in this episode we later learned. ["The Simpsons Theme Song"] The Simpsons will be right back. ["The Simpsons Theme Song"] LOL Sunday continues with another Simpson. If you want to feel more connected to humanity, and a little less alone, listen to Beautiful Anonymous.

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So Bart doesn't get away with it, and this is where we get the return to the court in the return of Judge Constance Harm. Bart, the record of your mischief is staggering. Just look at this file. That doesn't look so big. These are directions to the facility where Bart's criminal record occupies three full storage lockers. Six feet by eight? Six by fourteen.

Ooh! Bart Simpson, I hereby sentence you to six months at the Springfield Juvenile Correctional Facility. Juvie? Please, Judge, you can't. I'll do anything. I'll squeal on my dad. He's been up to bad things.

Crap you've never even thought of. We've already got an informer working deep cover on your dad, one he'll never suspect. Is it Lenny? Dammit. I mean, no. Ah! Now take that kid away. No, you're not going to take my baby to jail

All right boys, she's not letting go make the switch Your eyes need diapers your eyes need that's good Ralphie Sorry, oh that Hank is area this whole season keeps commenting on jokes in character Yeah, it's it does feel very meta that they're evaluating like is this a good Ralph line, but yeah sure Let's go with this one because there's a line between is this monkey cheese random or is it actually funny? And this one's not that great But I like wig I'm kind of half-heartedly accepting. Well, this is our act break. That's all we got And speaking of season 15 runners for the third episode in a row a

Simpson is taken to jail like this is three. It's not just that they all go to jail this season three episodes in a row It's a lot. It's not just that they all go to jail this season three episodes in a row. It's a lot. It's a lot The jail joke is just too much. It is funny that he gets six months for I mean again He tried to kill those people in my mind or was careless this I don't know Six months seems like a short amount of time for especially when one is the mayor. Yeah acted by Yes, but also I will say this. Juvie sentences tend to be shorter than adult. Like I said, I know a lot of guys that went to jail all the time.

I just know that they tend to be a little bit shorter. And this is the return of Jane Casmeric as Constance Harme appears a lot. She just returned to the series in season 16, The Flandersheies of Inner Simpson. I'm happy to report that they just finished filming the Malcolm in the Middle reboot film special whatever here in Vancouver. So the entire crew sans Dewey. They're all here doing that recently. Why's Dewey not there? The kid just retired from acting and didn't want to

come back. So I think he's just living a quiet peaceful life. And I think being Dewey was basically all he did. So he escaped the nightmare of being a child actor. Yeah I respect the hell out of that Dewey you got my respect. I hope it's good Malcolm in the middle was a good show up to the very end I don't think they ever had a jump to shark or anything. Yeah I loved it the whole way through. I remember liking it a lot I don't know why this is but I think it'll be weird to see Bryan Cranston in that character after all the years

All these intense criminals. He's played now. Sorry, right? Yeah, and it's funny You're gonna see him play the character that we were all like, I don't think he can You know what? He can't he could never play a criminal. You know what? I mean, like he's the Malcolm in the middle Dan I don't think that's what he does. So like he spent the whole first part of his career. Well, that whole part of his career with us saying like he'll never have another job better than Malcolm in the middle's dad. And now we're like, I don't know if he can do Malcolm in the middle's dad.

This like it's very strange to see him. So I like that. We're all doubting him. The reason I was a Breaking Bad day one viewer is the promo image was Hal from Malcolm in the middle in his underwear with a mustache and a gun. And you just think, well, what is this? Where is this going to go? I was a day one guy, but then stop like three episodes in. I was like, I don't like it for me. And then like I came back.

I am the classic guy. When they got it on Netflix, I was like, Oh, check into it again. Me and my wife are like, let's just check into it again. And then we loved it. Like we bought completely in. I think it's because we're bingers in this house. We love binging. We hate waiting week to week. I don't even like waiting for the intro to be done. I almost skipped intro on the Simpson, which is probably not the, but like, I think like having a bunch of episodes to watch in a row is better for us than the week by week. I understand. Like there are a lot of people that like the week by week release. I hear that from people whenever I complain, they're like, I kind of like it, you know,

I'm like, I'm not a community. It just became too daunting for me. If it was a new season, like here's 10 hours right now. Like obviously I can watch you whatever pace I want. Yes. And you should. I know. Hey, I logically understand these things.

My mental pressure is like you're already behind your ten hours behind Everybody's watching it. You're not gonna talk about like that's the pressure. I put on myself Henry He's not going to sweep the watching TV Awards this year This is why I see the Marvel movies Early, I'm like, I don't want to get spoiled on it But the thing is I don't give a shit in the end like I'm like, I don't even fucking care and no But I'm like next movie comes up. I care. And but I'm like, next movie comes up. I got to get there.

I got to see it right away. I actually got mad that they pushed the two Avengers movies back a year. I was like, damn, we got to wait another year. And I have no connection to this stuff. Like I watch it and I'm like, OK, somebody brings up the Incredible Hulk around me. I'll know what's going on with the Incredible Hulk. Like I'm obsessed with like Incredible Hulk around me. I'll know what's going on with the Incredible Hulk. I'm obsessed with knowing what's happening next,

even though, again, I don't care about the movie. I've also been really obsessively searching the He-Man movie constantly, looking for fucking any indication of what it's gonna look like and what it's gonna be. I do get to a good indication of what it's going to look like and what it's going to be like. I do get to a point where like I care maybe more about the movie before it comes out than after it comes out, you know,

like I'm like, oh, I need to know everything about the G.I. Joe Transformers crossover. I guarantee when it comes out, I probably see in a movie theater. I can guarantee fucking do it. And the he man thinks the same thing that I would never give a Marvel movie more than like three stars. You know, I don't, I think that's their ceiling with me, but I see them all every one of them, except for her tunnels in my defense. I think I've gotten better at, well, it's been nice. There's been a lot more weekly shows that just happen. Like the more things are getting weekly. But on a Netflix show that is a big drop, I do try to take my time and talk myself through

it and comfort myself. Just like, it's okay, it's okay, just watch it when you feel like it. It's not a race. Now, to provide an example, I waited until Better Call Saul was over. I think a few years after it was over. And then I watched one episode with Dinner every night for like four months and I had a wonderful time. There was nothing to keep up with.

There were no discourses surrounding me, no articles or anything. It just me and the show having fun every day. I, Bob, I will tell you this right now. I started watching Lost on the day of the last episode. Like, so the finale's airing. I watched episode one that night and I finished that show. Am I that's the best show I've ever seen. Like I absolutely love lost. I've watched it all the way

through to time and I think it's because I wasn't waiting week to week and then being let down. You know what I mean? Like it was two months. I feel like with that distance, it could be a fun show because Henry can relate to this. We've talked about this, Henry, where in the early days of podcasts, non-loss podcasts would be bogged down

with lost conversations. Every week people would wanna talk about loss. I'm like, I don't care. I don't care. And they went through the arc of like, oh man, what's gonna happen next to, I hate the show, I hate the show, I don't care. I don't care about. And they went through the arc of like, Oh man, what's going to happen next to you? I hate the show. I hate the show. I hate this show. Yeah. I just thought lost is like one of my favorite shows of all time. Same thing with the shield. I watched the shield in like three weeks and it's just like,

what a fucking or like two months. I'm like, what a fucking show. This is the best show I've ever seen in my life. And everybody's like, well, it kind of with loss, they'll always say, well, it kind of gets bad. And like season six, the shield was like the last show that I did the DVD version of that of just like, wait till it comes out on DVD. Even the last season, I recall getting like guys, I didn't watch it on live TV. I didn't have cable at the time. And so like my coworkers, I was like, guys, I finally got in last disc for the shield final season from Netflix back when it did that Let's all watch the finale together

I also understand the philosophy of releasing them every week because you want discourse around your show But for me, it's like I forget I'm watching stuff like I'm watching Duster now, by the way great show Everybody watch Duster. I love the way. Great show. Everybody watched Duster. I love it. I hope there's a season two. It's also got a lost connection. JJ Abrams and Sawyer are in it. I have to wait every week and I'm like, I don't remember what happened last week. I'm an idiot. Every time I'm like, I don't know what happened. What happened last week? But that shows a little easier to kind of, he's just driving a car real fast, so. Well, okay, so we get back from the commercial break

and Elf Clawson takes out of his storage the Cool Hand Luke musical style theme that they first did for the sideshow Bob prison scenes from Black Widower back in season three. I guess the Defiant Ones doesn't have a iconic soundtrack. Defiant Ones, I suppose this is more Cool Hand Luke in Act Two, Act Three, or the end of Act Two and Act Three,

that's really the Defiant Ones. You only see the guys, and that's also what I loved when I watched the Defiant Ones. I'm so used to movies having so much set up now. Like by 30 seconds into the movie Both guys have escaped and are on the run like you're instantly in the like these two guys on the chain gang They're on the run. Let's watch. Well, I'm not watching unless I find out how they became defiant

I Didn't notice that until people started saying it now. I'm like, oh my god every movie does exposition I'll look over at my wife or at the theater and just kind of laugh. You know, when it happened, that's fucking 90 minutes of that new mission impossible before you finally get to good stunts. It's so much. I reviewed that movie on my letter, but I'm reviewing all my movies this year, but only because I had a severe misunderstanding of what letterbox is. So, cause I thought it would suggest movies for me. I thought that was the point of doing it, but it turns out that's not the point of doing it.

The point of doing it is so people can see what movies you watched and how you felt about them. I almost, and I love the Mission Impossible movies. I almost gave that one a two star because I didn't think there was so much more in rooms talking than any of the other old ones, you know? Yeah. At least the sub stuff in the biplane were cool. That was so cool.

They were so cool. Telling my wife, like, look at his hair when he's on the biplane and his hair looks funny. I was like, that's the hair. His face flapping around like all this. Yeah. Bart though brought in there now accepting criminal midgets and is where we run into Charles Napier for that opening clip of him collecting his stuff when he gets checked in.

And we love the late Charles Napier. Every voice he nearing a recurring voice actor on Simpsons in this season. Yeah, they're trying to bring him back as much as they can. And again, passes away in 2011. A late great performance is Squid Billy season one. They somehow were able to scrape together Charles Napier money for an adult swim show. He's very funny as the sheriff.

That's right. And then when in season two, they just found a guy who like really sounds like him. A near identical match. I'd be surprised if he is still alive because it's hard to sound like Charles Napier and live very long. These voices don't exist anymore.

It's really great. He's on several of the critic DVD commentaries. And one of my favorite is, I think it's Steve Levitan, but they're talking about Roger Ebert with Charles Napier present. And then I think Steve Levitan is the one who says, yeah, wait, didn't Ebert write one of those Russ Meyer movies? Everybody else is silent because Charles Napier

has to go like, yeah, the movie I'm in, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, where I became good friends with Roger Ebert, that movie. You're right, Bob. This is the return of the warden design from Pokey Mom, where he also played the warden of the jail where Michael Keaton's character was staying. Now he's covering for children. He's been busted down to juvenile hall as the mean warden and Bart's in trouble. I really love chalking up to Laura McMullen being a great director. The ambitiousness of like, they zoom out

from Marge's tearing eyes to start her like big crying scene. I really like it. That's pretty ambitious for just a scene transition. We see who is to blame for this. My baby boy is in jail. I'm the worst mom in the world. It's not all your fault. All these years I watched you turn our son into a time bomb and yet I did nothing.

So in a way, I too am a victim of you. You're a great, Mom. You were always there for Bart with love and support. His acting out was probably caused by negative reinforcement. Oh, I get it. Blame the Strangler. They just had that was the same sound every time. Yeah. It's good. Homer soundboard.

Save money. Yeah blame the strangler. I mean that's great that Homer is telling Marge I'm a victim of you too. It is all Homer's fault. Like great. Just blame the strangler making it so much funnier. This is one week after he frames her for a DUI so Homer not looking great. That, that's true. In May of, or April of 2004, whatever this month happened. And after Homer is offended, there's the first of two deleted scenes on the DVD. This is where we get to see Bart's arrival, like, you know, the new guy coming through, holding your blankets and everything.

Oh yeah, I didn't see that. And this is where Bart, in this quick deleted scene, he meets his cellmate, who we see in no other part of the episode. Yeah, the first night's the toughest. You miss your family, you got no friends, you're afraid your cellmate's gonna chew your eyes out while you sleep.

Well, good night. Lights out! Yep, good night. Lights out! Yep, good night. And it's him staring at his eyes in the dark. Yeah. Are any of these male characters given a name in this? No, the animators are doing their best, but how do you design bullies that don't just look like your four bully archetypes you already have in the show, you know, of all the other bad kids you already have. I'd wondered why they didn't have any of the other bullies in the jail, but I don't know all the bullies.

I just know the, the ha ha guy. Yeah, I feel like they could've stuck another, one of these guys, a known bully in, because otherwise Bart's just like milling around with random kids until he meets Gina, Kind of too late in this episode. Yeah. In Bart's vision of Juvenile Hall in the Christmas episode, Mart's Be Not Proud, he imagines being in there with Jimbo and Nelson. But in this, it's all just guys who also, you know, Pamela Hayden and Nancy Carrwright, they're great, but they only have so many tough kid voices.

You hear voices that are like, oh, that's Jimbo, or this is the Nelson voice, except they're coming out of new guys. It looks like they made facsimiles almost. Yeah, like when I was looking down and taking notes, I was hearing characters that already have been established. I look up and was like, oh, do they shape Jimbo's head or something?

It just. Yeah. This is where Bart then gets a tour of what jobs he can get. And I really do love that Krusty not only wants to take advantage of his fast food empire, the recently released, but also is there in person to taunt them in a glass box. Like that's part of the thrill for Krusty. Was the glass box like a joke from an earlier episode or just?

I think it's new to me, but I definitely see, they like glass box comedy. Yeah, it feels like a loose Pope Mobile style gag. Ah. Oh yeah. I was like, did something happen before where he's a germaphobe, but then there are holes in it, but I mean, it's a cartoon

So they're allowed to be holes in it, but I just was confused at why he was in a class box I mean, it's a great way of crusty taunting of of just like, you know I'm not only just here this could have been crusty in a video But he appears in a glass box to be untouchable and taught the kids like yeah, come on And I didn't have any fast food work experience. I did work at closest was a movie theater concession area. And I think I recall a couple of people who were recently released. I think it wasn't too many.

I don't know how many recently released people you worked with in your jobs. Guys. I got robbed working at McDonald's by one of my coworkers. Damn. Nothing really you could do about it. I was taking a piss at the urinal, and he started reaching it. He came in and started pulling stuff out of my pocket.

And I was like, if it happened now, I'd just piss on him. You know what I mean? But at the time, I was just so timid and scared. And then also, he asked me, and I don't know why I did this, this is an idiotic thing for me. He's like, can you get me weed? And I'm like, sure, it'll be $50 a quarter.

I went and got him his weed. He was like, let's go out in the car. We can, okay. And they pulled a fucking gun out. It was like, just give me the weed. And I was like, oh, you robbed me, damn it. Yeah, he's the guy that worked with me. I worked at Taco Bell for a few months and then I got a job at a grocery store.

Taco bell is like mostly kids like me. And then the grocery store, everybody that working there was over the age of 70. I worked there with old ladies named Millie and Norma and Debbie and Sandy. All of their crimes were in the past. I take it. I did the same thing. I worked at Kroger for like eight months and then ended up. I got fired because I threatened to fight the general manager,

but it was like, I was never going to fight him. You know what I mean? He would probably kicked my ass. He's a big dude. They were just like, you can't be doing that. But most of the people that work at the grocery store, it's a different vibe because it is a kind of job that you can do as a career for the rest. You know what I mean? Like the people in the bakery can work in the bakery forever and get raises and do okay. So like, I think it's just a totally different vibe at the grocery store

than it is like at fast food. It's just like, we're all just here to make some money and we're not getting very much. And the manager's constantly yelling at you. It's a more rowdy job site. Like Taco Bell or McDonald's. Completely, yeah. The grocery store, I think it's more laid back because the deal is we'll sell you the food. We're not making it.

That's on you. But that part of the burden is off of us. They also have a clear kind of cash system at a lot of them. Oh, yeah, where it's like bagger cashier stock and then the different departments and like, so, you know, kind of where you stand the whole time you're there because I did get a raise. I did get a promotion when I worked there to

something called perimeter and it was basically you walked around the store and on the end caps, you made sure everything was forward and like all organized and stuff. Now I didn't do any of that. They gave me the job. And then I went and hung out outside and smoked cigarettes, but they demoted me and they put me in produce for a period of time. And the guy running produce didn't like me either probably because I wasn't working so they moved me back to bagger and like that was when I knew this isn't gonna be my career I think I've been bumped down to the lowest position so I like went to call in to work went to call off to go to Lollapalooza 97 maybe and the guy was yeah corn was there and snoop dog was there that was i don't know it might have been 98 but like i called in and i was hung over like this is my argument when people are like oh you got i was hung over and i called and i said i'm sick i can't come in today

and my manager is like you need to get your butt in here. We don't have anybody to cover you and all this stuff. And I was like, pissed off for the whole day. I didn't go in, but I was pissed off for the whole day at the way he said, get your butt in here. And he literally said, but he didn't say ass. He said, get your butt in here. And then I like called and I was like, I'm gonna get my butt in here and I'm gonna fuck you up, dude. Like just started yelling at him. And I assume he had to work in the produce department and I ended up

getting fired. But I always when people were like, you get I mean, that's your fault that you got fired. I'm like, it wasn't my fault that I got fired because I was hungover. So I sounded really sick. He should have believed you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm sick as hell. At my grocery store job, I challenged gender roles because all of the cashiers were women, mostly old women. And they're like, Bob, you can count. Do you want to be a cashier? I mulled it over. It's like, okay, no longer have to go outside to get carts. No longer have to do all the cleanups. Yes. But then all the other beggars were like, you

won't catch me doing that. Like they were offended that a man would have, would even think about handling money and scanning items. And, but they were all suffering. I made it out. Brutal. Yeah. Like I would have taken any job over bagger because the carts was just such a brutal It was like the worst. I think it's like the hardest job you can have as a 1617 I was on carts for like a year before I got a cashier job Yeah, cuz they're not gonna hire you at a warehouse or a factory or something like no So like the only real outdoor job you can get is bagger at the grocery store so like I would you and you got to

do the carts like I don't remember what it was. It was like a half hour at a time. Like it rotated through a group of people. I just remember like being out there when it was snowing and just saying like we should just close the fucking store at this point because so hard to push the carts in the snow and stuff like that. And they were just like, you're gonna do carts. Like there's no world in which we're gonna say it's too cold.

You have to do it, which is weird because now I feel like I could handle carts cause of the corrals. You know what I mean? Yeah, there were no corrals. That was a newer idea. They weren't around when I was doing carts. You brought them into the lobby. There were no corrals. That was a newer idea. They weren't around when I was doing cars You brought them into the lobby. There were no little stations had to walk them all the way there. Damn Well, you gotta go to each place. There's like a cart at each

Parking spot basically depending on how busy you are. You just leave your car in between the four cars So when I was doing it, they were like you're not allowed to grab more than 10 at a time. You had to push it because now they also like a target. They have a little like a little motorized guy, like the motorized gimmick where they can like put the hook on it. And then they just drive it into the place. I'm like, Oh, what I wouldn't have done for that. I might still be working at Kroger if they had their place child labor. It took 25 years.

And it is there's two jobs you can get when you're 15. One grocery store bagger, two dairy queen. Those are the only two jobs that are and paper route. Those were it. That's it. That's the only jobs you can have. And they're not hiring kids to do paper routes anymore. I my brother was there for the end of that or they were just like The kids are always fucking it up

Yeah, I mean I'm not going to unlock about this but I think by the late 90s the paper route was now the guy Driving his car around Yeah neighborhood If a child actually on a bike did it would you be like wow I teleport back to the 50s like well Yeah, I mean here at least all you just had to be 12. To do it for that period of time, I mean, brutal fucking job, no days off. You never get one day off. The paper has to be delivered every day and you're out in the weather.

We really, I can't tell you how bad we were at the, my friend, I had paper out and we'd go do it with them and not a good job. We're out in the weather. There's breakdancers on the sidewalk. People are carrying a big pane of glass back and forth. Death comes after you at a certain point. So the next scene, you know, here we mentioned cool hand Luke, we're going to get the defiant ones, but there's one other prison movie being referenced here or a prison ending to a movie, which is the classic Sullivan's Travels

Ends with the main character watching his film in prison like he writes a movie and then he sees it Screened in prison and this was the al Jean already did this in a season one episode of the critic where LAJ Where they screen his film while he is in prison as well. That episode ends with a prison sexual assault joke because it was a style at the time. Right, right. Yeah. In this case though, they are watching America's only native art form. I don't count you as cause it sucks says part animation and they put on it and scratchy and a real thing cut for content all violent content taken out of it. I want to mention recently I I've helped out a tiny bit at the Books to Prisoners charity that's in Seattle.

It's a really great charity people can give to, and they help people incarcerated in the US with their constitutional right to receive free books in the mail. And you learn a lot of these bullshit legal hoops that are different per state. Some are like, you can't send a used book to people sometimes like this has to be new no used book like and also another one is content rules they like people ask for comic books and they have very strict rules of like I know this person asked for a comic book we have gone through all of these to make sure there's no nudity or blood and even then if you send them like a Justice League comic

some asshole screw might say no I think this has too much violent no free comic for you they just destroy it crazy I do remember when I was doing Street Fight I did stuff like that it was always just like these guys are in jail they're all adults you know what I mean they can like what do they think is going to happen if they read a book with some violence in it? Get them going. You know, another one was like, people ask for life drawing books and there's a collection of like, okay, if they, if this person asks for life drawing, it

has to be this specific, like they have 20 of them because it gets requested a bit. It's called like a life drawing book for children, as in it's the one you give to kids the light, so there's no explicit nudity or anatomically correct things to I've requested a bit. It's called like a life drawing book for children, as in it's the one you give to kids, so there's no explicit nudity or anatomically correct things to draw on it. And it is again, to not have nudity in it. I suspect a reason we get requests for Wiccan related stuff is because it is religious and can have nudity in it

as part of a religious rite. And they're trying to curse the guards actively. Yeah. And best of luck to them. Yeah, yeah. Curse them all. This one in Seattle mails them out all over the US. You get to read the letters sent in by the people,

and the people in the South definitely seem to be in the worst spot than others. It's rough. You get to help people who are in a really bad way. And it's a very good journey. I've seen our listeners say that this is something I say too much, but seriously, the poor animators were told to animate hundreds of ice and cats

running at each other in a giant battle. Thankfully that censorship saved them some time. And then it ends with very, very cheap animation of the Cossack dancing. I love that. Then Bart is walking around trying to avoid being beaten up by these prisoners. very cheap animation of the Cossack dancing. I love that. Then Bart is walking around trying to avoid being beaten up by these prisoners. We had a slide joke that involves a reference to flash mountain.

I did a whole history on that on Simpson's tall tales, but if this confused you, it was a new internet phenomenon that people who would go on splash mountain in Disney would then pop the top Girls Gone Wild style for the photograph. Why don't we meet the guest star of the episode, Buffy herself, Sarah Michelle Gellar. I'm Gina. You touch my fence again and your puberty is gonna be very boring. I hate this place. It's nothing like the brochure. You can tell she's doing like a tough girl voice. They didn't just have her do her voice. I like there's a layer of acting there. I had my wife watch it with me and she is like an expert at knowing who people are,

right? And like, so like a voice should be like, oh, that's who that is. Like I don't know how she does it. It's incredible. But like I can't do it. I was like, you know who that is. And she did not get Sarah Michelle Geller this is the first time in a long time She's gotten it wrong. This is kind of the end of her period of relevance

I mean she went on to do a lot of stuff, but I feel like she's in scream I know she's in scream too. It's basically I know what you did last summer to scooby-doo to that is the galar bubble We were all living in from like 97 to oh for Not bad, not a bad run. And she's still doing stuff but that's when we were all fascinated with her. Buffy just ended in 2003. She's also in the American, well I was gonna say remake but it's more of a sequel to The Grudge, the 2004 Grudge. She's also in that. The movie I know her the most from, this might surprise people, is Cruel Intentions. from this might surprise people is cruel intentions. Ooh, mama Mia. Oh yeah.

I love that movie when it came out. 1999, so I would have been like a teenager still. If you told today's kids of like how shocking it was for two girls kissing each other in a movie and that was like so scandalous to us, I think the kids today would find that crazy. And it was crazy. I still like Ryan Philippi from that. from that movie. I still like when I see

him, I'm like, I like that guy. You know, I don't know why that's the one like I know what you did last summer also kind of grabbed me up. Of course I watch I'm gonna see the sequel for sure. And she's she's in the sequel, I think too, right? Oh, Sarah Michelle Geller. Well, she'd photograph appears in it. But not to spoil. I know what you did last summer, but she didn't make it. Oh, I didn't. I don't remember that movie from so long. It's so like them making a new one is so

weird. But I guess scream work, making the new screams work. My niece who was like 13 loves the scream movies. Oh, I love the screams. Those are two things. Yeah. I think with, I know what you did last summer, it was a case of viewers shoving away the bigger goat to see the smaller goat.

In this case, the smaller cuter goat was Jennifer Love Hewitt. Yeah, yeah. It was really a very horny time we were living in at that time. Like now it's so much less horny, but like, I think it's just quietly horny, but yeah, you would just, everybody would just be like, Oh hello. Yes. You know, like, I mean, friends and I, we, we, we watched, I know what you did last summer in the theater just to see Jennifer love Hewitt. That was it. We knew there would

be no nudity. We're like two for the breast, please. And then yeah, it's. Well, swordfish. Yeah. I always think about how like that movie came out and it was like John Travolta is in it. And so are Halle Berry's titties. That was like the big selling point Halle Berry's titties. Thank gosh. You got a ton of money for that, but it's just, it's not an

essential part of that scene from what I remember. It's like, what if my boobs are not sexual? Yeah, it's not sexual at all. It is her sitting, I think sunny. She's like laying in the sun and pulls a, like she's reading a book or something. She pulls it down and there's her titties for like two seconds.

But like you would have thought the same thing. There's another one that is a little less popular, but there was a movie called striprip Tease with Demi Moore, and all of the marketing of that was like, hey, Demi Moore's gonna be naked. Yeah, during puberty, it was showgirls and then strip tees. It was tormenting me, these R-rated films. Yes, yes.

I mean, as you can tell from me talking about growing up, they didn't pay much attention to me, so I did see, my brother worked at, at like second time recently, I brought this up. He worked at the dollar 50 movie theater, which I don't think they exist anymore. But they were like theaters that ran movies that had been out for like a few weeks. And you go see it. My brother worked there and we just, we would go and we just see all the movies in the theater because it's so cheap and shit. And that's where I saw like Cruel Intentions and I know what you did last summer and all of that stuff. I remember seeing those in the theater and then going home and being like, we're going to run

Cruel Intentions. Trying to get the movie in the house. We had the Dollar Theater too and it made me feel like a millionaire because you know normally, normally to go to the movies, I have to ask my parents for money this time. Hey, it's on me. I have four quarters. We're seeing the mask. Loved that theater. It's almost sad to me that that's gone now. You know, the discourse on nudity in films these days, I feel like is informed by back then. This was right at the start of the Internet with pornography. Like now I do feel like the younger people who get dunked on on social media who go like, oh, why does this need a sex scene or blah, blah, blah, all of that.

It does feel like them implicit in their saying it is the internet is full of naked people. If I wanted to see one, I'll find it online. I don't need to see Florence Pugh nude in Oppenheimer. Why is this happening? Well, as a shock jock fan growing up, like I was introduced to Mr. Skin in like 1996 through Howard Stern, you know, and like, I remember just going to that website and just scrolling through hornily all the time. And then like I checked recently to see if it still exists. Cause I was thinking about doing Mr. Skin guys.

And when you know it, it's still exist and they have a male version of it. Now it's gone woke really. That surprised me because I used to listen to the Gilbert Gottfried podcast when he was alive. And one of his guests one week was Mr. Skin. And I thought, thought wow he's around His website is around. He's not been imprisoned yet. So hey, he figured it out

It's crazy that he's still doing it $5 a month just like us Hey, he seems like a better guy than his girls gone wild like compatriot around the same time that guy Horrible person but Mr. Skin. Yeah. I think this guy is like a weirdly horny old guy. He's probably in his fifties. Like it was so neat to see famous people naked. So I remember him. I never was able to look at the site. You know what I mean? Like because I didn't pay for it, but I'm looking at it now and it is very funny. They give movies stars, but based on how naked they are and how much they do.

Yes, I see. Well, you know, Sarah Michelle Geller, I don't think she's ever done a nude scene in a movie. So I bet she doesn't have a, well, I guess, if you're on the page now, maybe check. Does she have a mystery scene? I'll take a look. Just give me a second here and I'll know.

She is softly half retired, I think. After the birth of her kids, who are now probably in college, she has done a lot less work. It seems like her and her still husband, Freddie Prince Jr., they kind of don't work too much. She does a lot of voice roles lately. She was on the, speaking of He-Man,

she was in the Kevin Smith He-Man show for the first season, but not the second one. You know, Henry, you would know this. Freddie Prinze Jr. is busy launching his wrestling promotion. Yes. His wrestling promotion that has a union. Bob, Freddie Prinze Jr., big time wrestling guy, a writer for WWE at one time.

Well, I'm glad he's not acting anymore. That's all I'll say. I think his skills lie elsewhere. The funny thing is, it's probably like six years. It's like, I'm starting this new wrestling promotion with a union. That's like, no, you're not. It's it's fucking not going to happen. Wrestlers aren't ready for a union. They will never be. They don't get it. Last thing on that. I do remember when Freddie Prince Jr. was, he was in the audience at an AEW show and MJF was cutting a promo.

He's like, Oh, Freddie Prince Jr. is here. Everybody here remember him and I know what you did last summer. Yeah. And he's like, not me because I wasn't born yet. Boom. Calling us all old. Yes. That was a good one.

They said Sarah Michelle Gellar was a great guest that she brought her because there's a reference to do the Bartman in this episode she brought her copy of Simpson sings the blues with her they said which was pretty cool and she would return as Gina Vendetti in season 24's moonshine river where Bart goes back to a bunch of his crushes in the show. Brian you mentioned it before but did you guys how many bad girls like Gina were in your lives? I knew a few in high school. They were the cool girls who had good taste in music that I would try to steal. Every single girlfriend I ever had was even my wife. Now, I mean, she's reformed, but you know, we were, we went a little

crazy in the early days. I think like we were sort of siloed off the way that they, it's not a segregation thing, but it's like at lunch, there's a table that all the bad kids, regardless of sec or gender. And we all sat there and that was our dating pool was like the girls at that table is the best I can describe it. So yeah, my first three girlfriends were, we kind of like bonded and met getting drunk and smoking cigarettes outside of school. So I mean, there were some incredible bad girls in Groveport. I'll just say that like they could hold their own with any dudes in causing trouble. Well, you know, 26 years have passed. I think the statute of limitations is up on this, but major crush on a bad girl, a senior year of high school, started hanging out with her, had a lot of fun, but then soon realized I was a pawn in a game of chess against her boyfriend.

Oh no. The gist of it was, he'll get so mad if I hang out with you, so I'm trying to make my boyfriend jealous, was the game there. But hey, I'm along for the ride, I'm having fun. You're getting used, just like Bart. I've told the story, but yeah, I had a girlfriend that was like, I think I was revenge on a cheating boyfriend, but I was like, you know what, I'll take it.

So Bart is not enjoying this being slashed at by Gina, and then he's telling Marge about it. They kind of lightly rip off themselves with, now sweetie, you shouldn't hang out with people who beat you. They're not good friends, which is basically, Marge says similar to Bart and Lisa the Greek of like, anybody who beat you up for wearing clothes is not your friend.

This is where we get a very brief subplot of Homer gets a new job. They tease for a minute that this is the episode where Homer becomes a prison guard, and that's the rest of the plot. I'd love that he just applies for a job. It's two seconds of the whole show. He applies for a job and then leaves. It's pretty funny. I mean bringing a lollipop to his son, it's a very sweet thing to do. When he gets the job interview the warden's office is meant to look like the warden's office from Shaw's Shank Redemption. So we got another

reference here. It's even got the saying on the wall from Shaw's Shank as well. Also the implied beatings during Homer's interview is pretty funny too in this little clip. So why do you want to be a guard here? I believe that children are the future unless we stop them now. Welcome aboard. This ends for beaten. This ends for holding. When does training start? It just finished.

That's my favorite Simpsons sort of thing. This ends for beaten. This ends for holding. Like they do a lot of jokes that have that like cadence and like every time they make me laugh. That's what I think the Simpsons are great at is like just coming up with a funny sentence or verbal take, I guess. It reminds me of another, my favorite, like cop violence joke is can I hold your club? It's a baton son. What do you do? I club people with it.

This is where there's another deleted scene where after he is hired, Homer gets a quick tour of the cafeteria with the warden. We serve the lowest grade meat, milk from God knows what and vegetables carved out of dog food. Do guards get free? You're my kind of prison guard. Cheap and ugly. Thank you. Whoa. That's so good. Every Charles Napier reading is a gift now that he's gone.

He's been gone for 15 years, but that's a great scene. It feels like Homer becoming a guard thing was occupying a lot of Act Two. Yeah. Vegetables carved out of dog food is such a great line. I of Act Two. Yeah, vegetables carved out of dog food is such a great line. I love that especially. Also Homer can't read as established in this one, but he saves Bart.

He also has a gun which Homer just points a gun at children just instantly. I like that. The kid who says his dad's a screw, like he looks like he's a member of the Little Rascals. He's very silly. He's got the jug hat hat and everything. And using the language of like the,

hey, you're a screw over there. And then Bart is of course instantly abandoned for Martin Luther King Day weekend. Like once they find out he's got a guy on the inside, Bart gets horribly beaten, seemingly nearly killed off screen as well. And this is where it's a time for a dance where the warden who normally seems to be very hateful

actually cares about recidivism and making them dance to like improve and then sublimate their violence. And this is where they get chained together and Bart has a cute little dance that then turns into an escape. They're escaping, Seal the perimeter! I'm on it.

Can't you go any faster? Well, I can close it faster. Or I can close it right. Can't you do both? Talk to the Union. Getting out two weeks, why would I want to break out with you? Well, you do look pretty in the moonlight. Hey, Dor! Help! Help!

Hey, you guys, the teachers here. Guess where the next one's going. Up my butt? Probably the only act break that ends with the term up my butt. Yeah, on the Simpsons. I liked that he said it. I'm like a big fan of like just saying the thing. You know? Like, you can't do it every time but it is funny to say up my butt. And so audibly too, like on the first thing she says that as Nancy plays it with her mouthful,

like she is like, but this one is just up my butt. Like you can tell every word of it. Yeah. So yeah, Bart runs off with her and it's confusing things for Bart. Bart is attracted to her but doesn't know he's attracted because he is 10. They're writing him as 10, not as like a fully grown up. It's clever. But I think that do you want to do the Bart man? That might be a little too far. I don't like the Bart's aware of sex. Right. That was shocking to me. I actually was shocked by that one. I don't know if I've said this

on the show before, but I was a big Bartman guy. Like my first Simpson shirt was a Bartman shirt. Oh, I love the character of Bartman. I just got a new Bartman hoodie. Actually, I had the shirt. Like now I think about it. I should have gotten a more like my brother had the good one. I didn't do it. nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything. That's the one he had. So I had to pick the different one. I got the Bartman shirt. I love the crossed arm Bartman, right?

That's the one. Yeah, and you would just like at the time, the show was so popular that like most stores had a Simpson setting. Just go in there and pick one of their so many shirts. They merchandise the hell out of it. It's like actually kind of admirable. I've almost bought the Simpson's house Lego set. Oh, I should ask Brian. Are you aware that the Simpson's Legos are coming back? You're a Lego guy. I'm getting rid of the Legos. Everybody I'm

moving. So to a smaller place, like to an apartment in a building. So I just, the amount of Legos I have is too much. And like, so we're getting rid of- Make sure you have room for the new Krusty Burger set that's coming out. Actually, I really liked the Simpsons house. Oh, I do too. The look of it, it's just $600.

So it's like- The Krusty Burger one is only $209. That's not too bad though for Lego. They're so expensive. And that's one of the things like, I think maybe my finances are better now because I'm not buying Legos every time I get paid. Everything seems like it's going a little better.

So I'm still gonna do them. I'm gonna like sell them and stuff once I'm done and while they're on the run This is where yeah the do the Bart man Which is just a reference to the song which I do think knowing the Michael Jackson history I feel like he intended that with do the Bart man Like I think he was meaning that in a sexual that was his letter to the police bragging about his crimes I think he was meaning that in a sexual. That was his letter to the police bragging about his crimes Totally he was just like the snowman killer who gave them all the clues I do like Bart saying but I have to whizzle like it's cute

I'm less so into the joke about women are perfect liars who can destroy men with their deceptions like I never loved those Yeah, I won't credit Dana Gould for that. That was a room Yes, yeah. No Marge minifig, by the way, in the new Simpsons. What the heck? No Marge. Everybody but Marge. They save money on the plastic for her bigger hair.

That's true. There was a Marge, though, I think, in that other set. But yeah, it's Lisa Bart, Sideshow Bob, Homer, Krusty, one of the cops, and then a nerdy teen with a mop. Well, you gotta have squeaky voice teen. Yeah, yeah. I might buy this.

I'm not gonna buy this. See, I sold you on it. I didn't mean to. Yeah. I'd rather be mad at you now. Use our offer code, right? Talking Simpsons? We should be on that.

You know, we don't have an Associates page on Amazon yet. So while Bart is on the run, we then see the family learn about it. I am not chipping in on a birthday cake for that jackass Arnie Pie. Let him eat. This is Kent Brockman live at Springfield Juvenile Hall. The scene of a daring escape by inmates Bart Simpson and Gina Vendetti. To understand the mindset of the escapees, we've brought in an expert, former underage defender Snake. If they're smart, Kent, they'll stay off the main roads. It's all here in my book,

Ten Habits of Highly Successful Criminals. All right, I plug your book, and I'll put down the gun. Tell them I'll be on Conan Thursday with Heather Locklear and Third Eye Blind. Why would Bart escape if he's gonna be released in two weeks? You just don't understand, boys. He's stupid! They've learned that they can do cutaways again this season, because Enhomer has a very season three cutaway of imagining Bart being kidnapped by space aliens, who also happen to be country bumpkins like little Abner's girlfriend Daisy Mae. It's an alien shotgun wedding. Yeah.

And that's when it gets Homer into action. But they're bringing back lots of things. We got the thought balloon gag. We've got Kent Brockman hating Arnie Pie. Then we've got Snake, called Snake here, pointing a gun, and a Conan reference too, which we just had on the series. That's how long Conan's been on,

10 years apart in the episodes we're doing. We have the start of Conan, and now Snake's saying he's gonna be on Conan this week with Heather Locklear and Third Eye Blind. That's a good 04 mix for Conan. Yeah, Heather Locklear, her in position one, I don't know, that's a little strong for 04. I mean, but yeah. The star was fading, the star was fading, I think.

Well, she was in some stuff though at that time. I thought at 04, Heather Locklear, I guess that would have been earlier that she was having like a renaissance. She had like a little renaissance in like the 90s or early 2000s. Oh yeah. You know, he just talked about her 03 film appearance in Looney Tunes back in action as Dusty Trails.

Remember that, Bob? Yes, maybe, actually the star had faded if she's in that movie. Yes. Two and a half men, there we go. There we go, men, men, men. I always think about the person who finds that funny, like the theme song for it. I'm like what I

Forgot that it's like they're just the three stars going man at the start. Yeah Not for me never got into that. I'd like I like I already I'm like really polite To my family like cuz they all like the Big Bang Theory except for me. So I'm always politely like oh I think the intent of that theme song is the creator saying, you'll watch anything. Look at you. You'll sit through this. About Big Bang Theory, I had just learned from our pals on the Podcasts of Ride Show

that the opening thing of Big Bang Theory helped to break up the band who sang it. The, oh God, why can't I remember their name? The Big Bangers. No, the Canadian band. One week. The Bare Naked Ladies. Bare Naked Ladies. Yeah. Wait, Bare Naked Ladies did that song? I believe they did and then like arguing over who has the rights to, who gets all the money from the Big Bang Theory theme is broken them up. Yes. That's crazy. Mike Carlson talked all about it, I recently one about how it's like the Bare Naked Ladies

have broken up. One guy of the main singers is no longer with the group. If you see them live, he's not there anymore. And part of the breakup was them disagreeing about who gets all the money from that theme song. Interesting. They might be

giants. The theme song for Malcolm in the middle still together. Better show. Mm hmm. Hey, I'm seeing them pretty soon until I was just reading online about how they respect their aging audience. And when they say they started eight eight they started eight and they're

done at ten. That's beautiful I love that. I just saw Metallica recently and they started 20 minutes late and then they also play it's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll in its entirety and then they play Ecstasy of the Gold from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly and then walk out on the stage like basically 40 minutes into their set time and then play four songs and take a break. I've never seen anything like it. It was one of the worst shows I've ever been to. This is where we have the scene that's the most, other than they're running, this scene is the one that's the most like the Defiant Ones because in the Defiant Ones they have several scenes where

Tony Curtis and Sidney Poitier are hanging out together and trying to sleep and they're talking about like their you know lives and Tony Curtis is like one of his first lines in the movie is the n-word to show you the Lessons he is going to learn in this story. In this case, it's Bart instead of saying why he does not like black people like Tony Curtis's character does, Bart comes clean about his dislike of girls. So why'd they send you to juvie? Shoplift or scrunchie?

Get bent. I pushed Snow White over the parapet at Disneyland. Oh man. Did she live? Yeah, but it's not a good life. Ha ha ha. Gina, before we get any closer, there's something you need to know about me.

I think girls are icky pants. Took a lot of courage to say that. Courage? I'm gonna pinch out of you. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ah! ha! Ha ha ha! Say, Cletus, have you seen a couple of kids go by? I don't have such good memory since I drank my thermometer. But I whittles what I seize.

Is this them? It sure is. We're on the right track. Hey, what are you making now? Sometimes I whittle the future. ["The you're wearing a shirt with the Disney property on it. Did Gina Vendetti paralyze what's known as a face actor at the parks? You're right, yes, she did. That is the term for the lucky ones

of the performers of Disneyland who get to not have to wear a mask and get to walk around. But they are hit on by the most fathers, so. With the camera on, like I also, like the most recent time I went to Disney. That is when I saw, and Brian, you're, you're a father of a daughter and there's so many girl dad things at Disney parks. Like guys, they do have shirts that say like princess security, or I'm here with the princess like these.

It's a lot of like begrudging dad anger in a t-shirt. Sometimes when I take a walk, I walk through the convention center. There will be like a cheerleading competition or a volleyball thing. And like they do that all the time there. And it's all girl dads. It's all girl dads and guys wearing pants from the buckle. Those are the two things you see. I'm used to seeing less the girl that stuff more the I hate my wife matching shirts or the wife love a shirt that says I'm here to have fun. And the dad is wearing the shirt says I'm here

because she made me pay for it. Yes. Yeah, that is falling out of favor quickly though. Cause like one of the things I search when I'm prepping guys is wife in the subreddit. I just searched and less and less people are saying like, my bitch wife won't let me buy more guitars. Like you don't see it as that.

They're facing out family annihilator section at the gift shops. Yeah, and when you see it, when you see somebody say it, people are like, oh, they make fun of them for them. So I was like, oh man, things are changing. Bullying works a lot of the time. Yes. Bob, you made me. So I was like, oh man, things are changing bullying works a lot of time Yes, Bob. You made me aware of the groom cakes which also have a similar

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I also love Gina's satisfaction of just like, it's not a good life. Yeah. She wanted to kill her. So I think girls are icky pants. Like took a lot of guts to say that. Like that's a great line too, but yes, Cletus is mercury poisoning, leading to prophecies. So this is the biggest change from the animatic and storyboard for Act 3 that's on the DVD,

which is, well, one, when they show the picture of the Disney headline for Disneyland, there's no detail on the guy in the photo, which makes me think it must be some staff member who they drew in there very specifically with their kid. Yeah, it's like a distractingly foregrounded couple. And secondly, the bear attack is not in there. It was a later addition. And the callback to it, which is even more perfect, is not there in the animatic.

So they discovered late what a good joke it was, but I'm glad they did. So we head back to Bart and Gina, and they find the sign for the blacksmith, as you wouldn't find in real life like Is great and I was waiting for something more elevated here because I guess it's just funny that they find a blacksmith and instead Of using his tools to break their cuffs He just forges a key, but I wanted there to be a lot more going on with this guy

The way he's animated is so specific to like I felt like it's like is this from I wish Laura MacMillan was on the commentary Because she loves to reference Like golden age cartoons. I feel like it's something from like a disney cartoon, but I could not find it out there, please Cartoon historians who watched this episode that i'm talking to you. Does this reference any specific? classic like 30s or 40s cartoon because the huge buff Bearded guy who's the blacksmith seems so specific and the angle seems so specific, it feels like a reference to me.

The joke on the nose though is like the lineup of all of the other people who are trapped in Defiant Ones parodies, including like Laurel and Hardy and what seems to be a sex worker and a nun. I don't know, Futurama had a better joke when all of the groups that were against each other are embracing after the world is saved and a nun hugs a clown. I feel like that's a better joke. That was a good one. So they get freed. It happens around at this point in the story and the defiant ones too. They get unshackled. It did feel like another bit there where she kisses him and then punches him and the blacksmith just says, take it from a blacksmith. That girl's trouble. Like I felt like there should be one extra layer to it. I don't know.

Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, I wanted there to be something more going on here. This world weary blacksmith. It's great that he's just there, but I kind of wanted something else happening. And as Bart runs after Gina, we see the prophecy is fulfilled as wigum recovers pretty quickly from this bear attack. Just wigum rolling around helplessly is always funny.

So yes, this is where Bart is very slow to understand why Gina is upset. What's up? Don't you want to get back to that awesome family of yours? What are you crying about? How cool they are? No! Oh, I know you're sad now, but surely your incredible family will cheer you up.

Wait. Do you even have a family? No, I don't! They're imaginary, like your brain. I understand. You don't understand anything. Ah! Whoa! You're such a psycho. Mama's boy.

Future skank! Family guy! Well, well, well. If it isn't Punch and Juvie. Ha. Plant the evidence on them, boys. Uh, Chief, we don't have isn't punchin' juvie. Heh, plant the evidence on him, boys. Uh, Chief, we don't have to. These ones are actually guilty.

Super, makes our job that much easier. So Family Guy timeline, when this episode airs, it is two months before Family Guy is renewed on Fox, and Fox orders 35 episodes. I believe they start airing in May of 2005. I'm waiting for North by North Kohog. I'm calling it now. I want it to be another Talking Simpsons episode

of Family Guy when we get to that in the timeline. Is it renewed as in they brought it back or is it just a new season after being brought back? Because I remember feeling so good when they brought it back. That is the official beginning of season four of Family Guy. It's the return, yes. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's awesome. I love that.

I watched that show for like years after that. Eight or nine months after this is when Stewie Griffin, The Untold Story comes out. Yeah, I think it's that summer. They didn't do the movie first. They did the movie between seasons four and five, I think. A Family Guy. Forget it, it's been a very long time.

Family Guy is, I feel like it's 500 episodes. I feel like it's nearing that. If not more, if not more. Now I'm gonna look. But Family Guy never gets to feel old because it's 10 years younger than The Simpsons. So it never feels like an old TV show. And hey, the next episode to air is called Cool Hand Lois.

So all these years later, we can still do Cool Hand Loot parodies. That's crazy. I feel like you get one episode every eight years where a character goes to prison. You can't keep sending them to prison for an easy story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bart also, I mean, this is like calling this girl's a psycho and a future skank. Like, you know, I like her design that she has purple eyelashes too.

Like you get the color in it as well And I skipped it earlier when Bart says but State Farm took my money Like he's upset at the scam of the cootie insurance is so good It's funny that he has State Farm for some reason like just having a specific place seems funny We're still like what five six years away from Simpsons having to drop the Family Guy grudge and admit that it's not going away And do the crossover episode right 2012 yeah, so yeah, not too long less than a decade I was out on both when that happened already. Oh and what next season is gonna be Maybe the meanest joke they did where it's the it's in the Italian Bob episode where it's plagiarism is the charge for family and then plagiarism of plagiarism for American dead the knives routes

double for family guy which I'll defend American 8 438 episodes of family guy also in its new renewal that was about as long as the Simpsons that maybe that gets it to 500 yeah yeah probably how. Yeah. People still love it. So yes, we also see that the bear is in handcuffs in the next scene. So they arrested the pair too, which is great. Not in the animatic, a great, great, good work off screen. And part of that work is planting evidence that they admit out loud and do. Yeah. I like the dirty cops in Simpsons. They never like close the copaganda in a time where they could just do that if they wanted to.

And maybe it's because everyone is going to jail this season, but there's been so much Wiggum, and I've been really enjoying it in season 15. Wiggum and Lou, they have so many scenes together, especially Eddie actually gets to talk in this scene, which he's been kind of silent. He talks a lot less these, uh, man, you know what? Now they talk about like three episodes in a row with an arrest.

Lisa isn't arrested, but the cops are also searching for her in the four episodes ago when Lisa runs away and smart and smarter. Yeah. Yeah. Man, that's a lot of wig them hunting for the kids in a row. And so with Bart arrested, it's time for the family to say goodbye again. And the wig him lets him know that he's going to come out a like stone cold, like psycho and just a ruined child. Every part of him just gone. Just how happily he admits the

like, yeah, that's what this system is for to destroy children. We'll come out with a great looking body and cool tattoos. When did you guys learn about tear drop tattoos or what they're supposed to? I mean, I hate to say it was pro wrestling. I think when all the jokes came out about the tear duct tattoos and then I think later I learned about the spider web elbow tattoos. Yeah, just friends of mine have brought it up when I was I was really young when because I remember in high school drawing tearardrops on me so that I had

a teardrop, like as a joke, but like I remember doing it. There were a few times where I like tried to pretend I was in a gang. I recall the undertaker has a teardrop tattoo among his many tattoos. I think. Does he still have it or is it a fake? I want, well, I bet he hasn't killed. I bet the undertaker would tell you like oh, this is for real. Don't ask me like I prefer the story I have heard this quick wrestling story. I prefer the story of the wrestler known as the godfather in most cases that performer He has a great story that he he has a Nazi knife like a neo-nazi knife And he says he carries it around to remember the Nazi he took it from and what happened to that guy wink wink he implies

the godfather is a black wrestler in case you don't know this is and he took it from the under because the undertaker I believe has some pretty brutal tattoos if I'm not mistaken you know I didn't know that I'm glad you pointed out because he said the godfather I was imagining an Italian gentleman. Oh yes, no, no, no. It's not, yes. Is a black performer who is very proud of the neo-Nazi he beat at the very least horribly to install his knife as a memento.

So Bart is gonna be taken away and this is where Gina has pangs of guilt. Oh Bart, my troubled little lamb. You'll be in jail for so long. But I'll keep your room just the way it was. A pigsty. Son, I want you to know no matter what anyone says, there's no shame in being caught alive.

Take a good long look at the innocent love in your son's eyes, because when he gets out of prison, it'll be gone forever. We'll have a great bod, though, and a couple of those teardrop tattoos. Those are cool. There's something I have to tell you guys. All right, look, my fly is down because it's broken, OK? No.

It's something else. Bart, she took all the responsibility for the escape. You're free to go. But the kid's still got time in his sentence, chief. Look, if you all want to squeeze into the back seat, fine, with my box kite. Oh, forget it. Like, that Bart also gets to be let out early,

Gina really does him a favor here. Yeah. This could have been the ending, but I kind of like that they go in a sweeter and then also sillier direction, too. Yeah, yeah could have been the ending, but I kinda like that they go in a sweeter and then also sillier direction too. Yeah, yeah, I like the joke this goes out on, but they wrap things up very neatly. Yeah, the last joke in the episode is so good.

It is nice to like, she gets to have a family. It's very nice. Well, first it lets you see that Gina's not a bad, like she does, despite, you know, this is the tragedy of the real bad kids who are like Gina like quote-unquote bad kids that you you know These I look back on my friends like that and I can see like boy There was a moment where it's like they turned from a bad kid into like an actual like problem This gives you the hope that Gina won't end up that way

Yeah, you either go to decent or prison. Those are the two choices. We follow her to her new cell. We get a sweet ending of her finally getting the family she wanted. I'm saying it's the nicest homers been in like any of the episodes I've watched. I think he's just here for the free tacos and he's not even aware of what the story is at this point. He's like, you taught us the meaning of Christmas or something? Oh, that's true. So ignorance is what he's riding on right now. Yeah.

Also, I'm assuming because he's drinking while saying this, he is drunk, like that's a margarita he's drinking out of that or something, or just straight tequila, honestly. You know what, no, it can't be straight tequila because he promised Marge he would no longer have clear alcohol in the previous episode. Let's learn the true meaning of Christmas in this last clip here.

Welcome back Gina. I got a few new cellmates for you. That's cool. I wouldn't feel right going to the bathroom with no one watching. I thought you might want to have a nice family dinner. We're having make your own taco night. Gina, thanks for showing us the meaning of Christmas. And thanks for showing my brother that girls can be cool. Who is this nerd? Taco, please.

Well, my shift's over. I guess it's back to my bachelor apartment. Make a tuna sandwich, turn on Will and Grace, and cry myself to sleep. Would you like to join us? Didn't you hear me? I've got an evening planned. Ha ha ha ha.

That's great, he wasn't looking for pity. He was crying as he told them his real plans and didn't wanna change them. I'm not gonna do that. That's great. He wasn't looking for pity. He was crying as he told them his real plans and didn't wanna change him. He sounds like me. Like all my favorite plans are like being alone.

Staring at something. Have a good cry. Yeah, it's it's great when Marge's affection is just swatted down. Yeah. I also it's you know what? I will play the jingle here, actually. It's been a while since I played this jingle. Take that, Lisa's beliefs. Yeah, Lisa's beliefs are swatted down, too. And what I believe is Lisa's second line in this episode. Maybe there's more, but I just remember her saying,

oh, Bart must get it from negative reinforcement, and then this. Yeah. I think Lisa gets five seconds of lines each act, I think. She gets to complain about the sassy bitch shirt. She then will mention Bart going to prison in The Strangler and then this. I think that's kind of it. Actually in the animatic, it's Lisa that says a line to Bart that convinces him to give

Gina the chance, but instead you see Bart reacts to her being driven away. You can assume it's Bart's idea. That's probably better. And yeah, then Lisa has like a feminist kind of message and instantly Gina's like, shut up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

And Gina's like kind of seems like a feminist character, but then turns. I love that. It's just kind of everyone's turn to say something and everybody just fails at whatever point they're trying to make. True, true, yes. It is sweet they get to have a plain old taco night. My family, we did not do taco nights.

We also- We do ethnic. We didn't eat together much. For the Gilberts. Yeah, we did weird. We'd have a taco bell stop, sure, but taco night of making your own, no. We did it all the time. That was an easy dinner.

It's mostly just laying stuff out. It's just like your mom cooks a pound of seasoned ground chuck and there are various parts you can later assemble. I would guess like the prefab hard taco shells. They explode after one bite. Yeah, I don't eat hard tacos at all anymore because of that. I can't believe that's what we were dealing with back then instead of the wonderful soft corn tortilla. The first time I saw soft tacos, I was impressed by them and then mocked. Obviously you only eat Taco Bell I was told. Yes, because I thought that was the regular taco was the soft of these tacos. It was so cheap to get a hard taco. It's probably still is crazy cheap. I don't even know if

they sell them at Taco Bell anymore. I felt like it was like three for 50 cents or something in my memory of childhood of how cheap they were. I'm seeing if they have it on the menu. I don't think they have hard tacos. They got to at least have the Doritos style. That's it. They do only have the dollar seventy nine. He was everybody.

That was the life. You could see a movie at the Dollar Theater and then by dinner at Taco Bell for five dollars. Yeah, I have in my mind a commercial from Taco Bell that never goes away where they were saying 59.79 99 are the prices on the menu. So 59.79 cents and 99. It was little Richard singing that. Yes, probably. That is so embedded in my brain. See, a pain of aging is remembering what things used to cost. And it's just, it turns into the old man mental block of like, wait, a Domino's pizza should not be over $20. It just breaks my brain when

I like look at it in an app. I'm like what? How is this over $20 in my day? I wiggle my finger as I say it. Yeah, it's crazy because they were 59 cents and now they're $1.79. That's wild. Well, don't worry. Minimum wage has risen to a comedy for that. Yes. Everything is fine. Yes, yes, absolutely. Yes, a happy prison ending in our third prison episode in a row of The Simpsons.

Oh, there'll be another one waiting till the Bart Mangold banner hits later this summer. Yeah, that's where everyone's in prison. No one has to visit each other in prison because they're all in prison in that episode. Nobody has to get a job at the prison.'re all in prison in that episode. Right. Nobody has to get a job at the prison. You know this episode is a way to explore bad kids and is an excuse to finally watch

the defiant ones. I had fun with this silly little episode. I never really love a Bart's girlfriend episode. I don't like when they have to, but this one doesn't write Bart outside of his age bracket. It doesn't turn it into like a teen story with a 10 year old. So that's one of the more positives of this to me, but it's all right. I'd say.

Yeah. I mean, I love the episode Bart's girlfriend. It's so good. It's a great expression of Bart, you know, potentially having a crush on a girl and the girl character is very interesting and well developed. That's not really happening here because I think Gina comes in way too late to do anything with her, but there's enough funny jokes And I it's just like one solid story throughout to keep me on board and Cletus whittling the future is a very good joke

Very very inspired so I'm on board Yeah I don't know how to compare it because I haven't seen like a lot of the episodes around it But it did get like a few laughs out of me which that's a good review because that doesn't happen very often. It's gotta be funny for you to watch a new where Simpsons to you. That's as old as your daughter or just a, yes, that is when we found out it was 2004. I was like, that is a crazy. That's season 15. That's like a late,

well, I would consider that a late season episode. I didn't know they were in the thirties. Unfortunately, once we hit 40, the twenties are going to be a golden era. Classic Simpsons. This one wasn't bad. I didn't think this was a bad episode of the Simpsons at all. I thought it was pretty fun. Awesome.

Well, thanks again for joining us, Brian. Please tell us more about guys, the podcast and where to find you online. We just talk about guys guys different kind of guy every week recently did milk guys we did a reptile guys we've done lost prevention guys you just do a different type of guy every week and on the patreon it's patreon.com slash guys podcast we do a show called guys plus where we talk about we can only talk about the people before that we've covered before. So we kind of check back in with some of the guys we've covered and it's a fun show, I think. And people seem to like it.

We were on to talk about guys who we secretly are, Simpsons guys. Yes. We got, we got you on Simpsons guys and South Park guys. Not Seth McFarland guys. You did not get to do Seth McFarland guys, but we did do that one. If you're into that, you just did a check-in on the rock and roll hall of fame one with talking Simpson's multiple time guests, uh, Chris Wade, which was a really good one. I enjoyed it's a very good time. I love Chris and we do it every year when a rock and roll hall of fame inductees get announced, we do it every year. When Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Duckies get announced, we do it every year. Rock and Roll guys are a wonderful specific niche of racist aging man. Like, yeah. And also like, I think it's the most broad type that we do classic rock guys. Cause just,

I mean, everybody's got a little bit of it in them, you know? Yeah. I mean, to age is to care about classic rock, but then it's the measure of like, do you hate that a black person is getting it or not? Is the question usually. Yes, you always have to check yourself and say, listen, I don't care about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You have to like always say it

because sometimes you'll find yourself being like, hey, why is it this bad in there? It's like, who fucking cares? Don't care about that, it's silly. But thank you so much, Brian. It was great having you back. Yeah, thanks, Brian. Thank you for having me.

It was a lot of fun. It gave me an excuse to watch The Simpsons again. Thanks again to Brian for being on the show. Please check out his podcast, Guys, but ask for us if you want to check out more of what we do and get all of our episodes ad free and also one week ahead of time. And on of that a ton of bonus stuff head on over to patreon.com slash talking Simpsons and sign up at the $5 level when you do once again

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Well, it's the What a Cartoon and Movie podcast that Bob is referring to, where we for nearly seven years now have been covering an animated feature film as in depth as we do in episode of The Simpsons, which is basically you get triple podcast. You get a triple length podcast, sometimes five or six hours long. This summer, we are in the aughts of Disney films. We first started with an extremely goofy movie. Then this month we are covering Lilo and Stitch, the 2002 classic, and we go super in depth into the very interesting production and creation of that original film And that's just the most recent ones. We've covered all of the 90s Disney films. We've covered all of the Toy Story films We've covered a ton of anime. We've covered a ton of Batman

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