Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace With Chris Cabin

Episode Date: July 24, 2019

This week we're facing Homer's midlife crisis and Chris Cabin of the podcast We Hate Movies joins us for the occasion! Homer learns he's actually 39 and he searches for meaning in what years he has left, finding inspiration in the life of Thomas Edison. But when that fails, things really fall off the rails with scary inventions, running over ghosts, and toilet chairs! Listen now to learn all about Homer's search for meaning! Support this podcast and get hundreds of ad-free bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron!

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It's real easy, man. I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, hoy, everybody, and welcome to Talking Simpsons, where we omit no detail, no matter how small or filthy. I'm your host, President Lenny Voter Bob Mackey, and this is our chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who is here with me today? Henry Gilbert, and all I can think of now is Edison. And who do we have on the line? Chris Cabin, a real sack of crap. And today's episode is The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace.

You started smoking, Dad? Yes, Thomas Edison smoked several cigars a day. Yeah, he invented stuff too. Shut up. Today's episode aired on September 20th, 1998, and as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real-world history. Oh, my God! Oh, boy, Bobby! Will and Grace in King of Queens debut on television, a new era of TV. Jackie Chan reaches new levels of fame in America with the release of Rush Hour, and everyone is talking about the Star Report being released.

Okay. So this is Lewinsky Gate is happening. Oh, we're deep into it. I mean, that's why the opening gag in this episode, too, is about it. I don't know. The Star Report is at least more fun than the Mueller Report. Yeah. You can buy both of them, right?

Oh, of course you can. And though celebrities never thought to than the Mueller Report. Yeah, you can buy both of them, right? Oh, of course you can. And though celebrities never thought to record the Star Report, I mean, we know why. Yeah, I want to hear Alec Baldwin read me the Star Report. Will and Grace, you know, there's some parts of it that are still corny, but it did, I think, at least for a lot of America, mainstream gayness in a way that uh hadn't been done before in television wasn't jack on that show the true king of queens no respect to gay people no disrespect to gay

yeah yeah no yeah freudian slip there but and king of queens was the show that like it just had eight million episodes it was hugely successful with me barely watching i think it sure did exist yeah it was like sitcom loaf. It was just like TV content that would just pour out into the floor. I just knew it as a show of like, oh, Patton Oswalt's getting paid. Like, that's how I knew it. And I remember like in 04, Patton was very open of like, if you just know me from King of Queens, you do not want to go to my comedy show.

I will be making fun of the president, and you won't like it. I was very surprised by that, because that's where I knew him from, was King of Queens, because I'd watched, like, I don't know, two episodes. And then all of a sudden I heard Patton. I'm like, oh my god, Patton also looks awesome. Yeah, I

think, you know, Patton's hiring on there was so the old school way of helping comedian friends when you get your own sitcom. You just hire your old comedian buddies and give Fred Stoller a constant recurring character appearances on Everybody Loves Raymond. Oh, I love Fred Stoller. Or same with Kindler, like all these guys. But they had basically Frank Costanza on the show, right? Yeah, they just had him do the same character.

Except he sat down a little more. Yeah, he was mostly sitting on King of Queens. It was a nice chair, though. I think Will and Grace's comeback season was actually one of those successful comeback seasons, and they're doing another one of those. I've heard through the Star Snoop lately that Debra Messing is a real prima donna, super hard to work with. Oh, wow.

I can tell that from her tweets. She's a big believer in Russiagate and a big hater of Bernie. And Susan Sarandon, she really doesn't like Susan Sarandon. Well, and then she even, though, promoted Will & Grace on the frickin' Megyn Kelly show, which I was just like, what are you doing? Oh, right. That happened, too. I didn't like that somebody who was shitting all over Susan Sarandon would then be like,

but I am going to talk to Megyn Kelly. It was before some of her things, but we all knew who Megyn Kelly was. We were made to feel sorry for her for about three seconds. Yeah. And then that was it. If that. This episode, though. Oh, wait.

Rush Hour, though. Rush Hour. I didn't want to talk about that. Rush Hour. Go for it. I was there in the theaters day one because I was whatever the weeb equivalent is for Hong Kong cinema as well. I was a huge Jackie Chan fanboy ever since, like, I guess three years earlier when Rumble in the Bronx debuted in America. Then I got to be, like, the elitist at Rush Hour of, like, you guys don't know how good Jackie Chan is. You're just laughing at this culture clash stuff for this you know 48 hours kind of uh i've seen shanghai

noon i know how good he is uh what's his way that's after that shanghai noon is just like an old-timey ripoff of rush hour like i was i was an obnoxious snob when it came to jackie chan like a surprise surprise but i had seen like Rumble in the Bronx like four times in the theaters wow and then Rush Hour came out I was like no no no that's too this is for the populists I don't want this I can't uh I can't argue with the reaction of the theater like I remember my theater like people were laughing so hard at it they loved it it was a huge hit and they sold out theater in Orange Park Florida I I think it made me sad at the they loved it it was a huge hit in the sold-out theater in orange park florida i i think it made me sad at the end of it like oh jackie chan's not mine anymore now he's he's

real famous he belongs to the world which like i was just being a snob with that shit anyway but also i guess it also made me sad because it was kind of he doesn't do any really he does like one cool stunt in it maybe two but it was just was just admitting like Jackie Chan's old now. And also he's working in the more regulated American cinema. So he can't just do all of these crazy stunts all the time. Someone is insuring him so he can't do crazy things anymore. Chris Tucker is doing some weird stuff with his mouth in that one. That's what we really have to focus on.

It's all his dialogue. Chris Tucker is a really interesting case too like he's pretty much just stopped doing movies once he got rich enough which i mean hollywood sucks so i don't blame him but then he the only thing he came back for was like a fourth rush hour for a gigantic pile of money what was that it's like in the last decade okay it was there were three before that yeah about that totally wasn't there a rush hour four i feel pretty sure perhaps you dreamed it i don't think so actually i think the third one is i mean should be locked and evolved because uh roman polanski is like a main character in it oh yeah that's right uh not filmed in america strangely enough no but

he i think he was he's in a Silver Linings playbook yes he is in that yeah he's their wacky black friend in that yes oh well okay so I was confused because back in April there was news that four was in the works but three was his big return Chris Tucker's big return for that baby yeah no I I totally forgot about him as the wacky insane asylum friend of Bradley Cooper in that movie. That movie is so weird. That is a really weird movie. Everybody's a wacky character in that movie. I just think that that's what the descriptor was when they first pitched it.

He's wacky. It all tries to get to the darkness of the soul at some points, but then at the end it's like, no, it's a big happy ending. They won the dance competition, and they're not crazy anymore. Everything's fine. It's all mental, in a sense. A dance-off? If they could all just win dance competitions, the asylums of America would be empty.

Yes. But today's special guest is Chris Cabin, one of the four members of We Hate Movies, the podcast, and now we have, I've gotten all four on the podcast. The ritual is complete. So far, Andrew Jupin, Steve Sadek, Eric Siska, now Chris Cabin is finally on our show. Hello.

Hi there. Yeah, I'm the rare card in the deck. You have to buy a couple packs before you find me. You're the chase card. He's the draw four. Well, Chris, I mean, you must have been a Simpsons fan from similar uh backgrounds as the rest of the guys right oh yeah i actually similarly not it wasn't my only reason for uh

quitting the boy scouts but it was up there with eric like there were i was looking for reasons to get out of there because i was tired of making i don't know wooden cars to race down hills. Yeah, I was obsessed with this. I watched it devotedly, and then I watched reruns, and it was what kept me alive during most of high school. Yeah, it was a useful crutch, for sure. We didn't have dance competitions to save

our depression. It sounds like the Boy Scouts were offering counter-programming to the Simpsons. Instead of watching this bad boy, you can learn about, let's say, knots. Different kinds of knots. Did you remember seeing this episode when it was live then? Yeah, this is just when I start remembering

it. As far as my first go-arounds, reruns, of course, you see them a hundred times. But this was one where this season, in general, is where I think I started remembering, watching each one. And this one specifically, I remember because I kind of threw a tantrum at my mom because we were out of Doritos. I was like an awful fat kid for like a little bit there. But like, I was the one where it really sticks in your brain. And I feel like I should really like

apologize to my mother monthly for this. Well, I mean, Simpsons and Doritos is like cheese and wine. They pair so nicely together. I didn't have a Dorito until like in the last decade. Really? You don't care for foreign foods? Yeah, I guess so. If people just told me it was like powder on nachos, I'd be like, well, because I ate tortilla chips all the time.

But something about the brand of Doritos made me think it was something I wouldn't like. I don't know why. It's crazy. I ate all the time but something about the brand of doritos made me think it was something i wouldn't like i don't know why it's crazy i ate all the corn chips i wanted but maybe it was the branding of it also being like the gamer snack that people made fun of i was like i'm not i'm no stereotype well i mean they are just corn chips that are crop dusted with chemicals to make them taste like stuff and they're delicious and they're wonderful we were a fritos household for uh most of my life i had to really petition to get doritos i mean a doritos are they are chemically

manufactured to be the crunchiest tastiest thing like that they they are a trick to you but uh oh you know this uh episode two it's it's sort of about your neck of the woods as well right Chris uh yeah I mean it's I am from Albany like Andrew but also my dad grew up in uh not grew up he lived in uh Precipiti New Jersey so this had a real uh soft spot for me and and well to get it out of the way now have you ever been to the Edison Museum in museum? I have not. I was not a big museum kid. My mom and dad were more like, oh, museums. Yeah, we should bring him to one of those. In theory,

it's a good idea, but look at the time. In theory. There's movies out there, you know, and there's concerts and stuff. You can learn about life through movies, right? I have a weird memory of this episode where it's a season premiere, and there's concerts and stuff. You can learn about life through movies, right? Yeah. I have a weird memory of this episode where it's a season premiere. And I remember going to one of the only

non-high school football games I've ever been to. I went to an Ohio State playing Notre Dame game with my stepdad on the night this aired because I remember driving back home and worrying about missing this episode because as we're coming on the radio, the Invite Yourself to Muddy Pants line was playing on the radio.

Oh, as you're feverishly driving home. Yeah, like, we gotta get home. I went to see a football game with you. I participated in this. You didn't know it would be at the cost of Simpsons, perhaps. Yeah, we are in season 10 officially. This is a production season 9, the last one produced for season 9. And it is so funny.

I'm a huge fan of this episode. It's so, so funny. This is not the first one of season 10. Oh, you're right. It's broadcast season 10. I guess the official fall season. You're right. Yeah, well, it's so complicated, the season 10 air order, because last week's episode,

Lard of the Dance, that premiered in August with the 70s show. And then they sat on this episode for like four weeks. And then after this, there will be the World Series. So there won't be another Simpsons until the Treehouse on October 25th. So this is also the era of the Simpsons we're entering into of Sunday night football and baseball destroying the schedule. I guess in my mind, Lard of the Dance is season nine because not until the DVDs came out was it classified as season 10. It's on season 10 DVDs. So therefore, it is season nine because not until the DVDs came out was it classified as season 10. It's on season 10 DVDs, so therefore it is season 10. I remember seeing the special when they put Lord of the Dance up with the 70s show and thinking, you know, I had no idea what the

schedule was like at that time. Like I didn't really follow that stuff. So I was like, oh, Simpsons is just starting now. And then had to wait yeah it it just activated your brain of like oh well now new episodes will keep coming for at least two months and instead you just get nothing yeah like back in season two or three they tried doing a summer episode was it like blood feud or something that aired during the summer yeah blood feud and then also the next summer they did return of uncle unky herb unky her yeah they did that one spare two dimes yeah they did that one in the summer too it was weird fox likes some surprise summer programming like august releases of things to confuse people i guess i guess it's not important but i think internally they consider

the season's tens premiere because they had the uh the party at a museum and this was the episode they played at the party okay Was it the Edison Museum? Somewhere in L.A. Yeah, no, not the... And they tell a funny story about Ed Begley Jr. attending the museum in the premiere and not being able to charge his electric car, and him saying, but it's a science museum! So that's why in Homer to the Max, he's in that episode arriving in his electric car. That's right, yeah. I think they just were borrowing from real life.

But speaking of borrowing from real life so this episode is uh the the brainchild of dan grainy who we interviewed uh earlier was it last year yeah yeah i think it's uh about a year ago now yes check out the patreon we interviewed him dan is great we also talked to dan mcgrath the two dans of the simpsons but uh this episode came from dan grainy where he said that uh he has this recurring thing in his life where he becomes obsessed with a transcendent experience or an idea that he has and he proceeds to browbeat and bore people with it until they are just repulsed by him and essentially this episode is about driving everyone around you crazy with the things you love and it was assigned to john schwartzwelder but a lot of the stuff in this script is like dan grainy is basically homer i remember wanting to be john swartz welder for most of my college uh days just to be the top simpsons writer and just writing you know to be the guy but this also

does feel like an outline of grainy's that then is filled with wacky insanity by swartz welder like and there are so many just good jokes and gags and lines in this one. I really love it. But that obsession thing, I mean, that's why we do this podcast and have this career. That is us. I mean, when I was a kid, I could recognize myself in this show when I saw it in 98, because this was me as a kid. When I would read a new book or become obsessed with some new thing,

I would tell people about it all the time. I remember it finally hit me that this could be annoying to people when I was I think my mom was driving us either to or from the mall and I just got the newest issue of Savage Dragon and I was basically telling my mom each page of Savage Dragon in order and then telling her things that were talked about in the letters page. I think she said something like, please, Max, I gotta focus on driving. Like, please. It finally hit me like, oh, this could be very annoying

to people to constantly hear this inundation of information. I have to fight that urge, especially when someone else purports to be a Simpsons fan. And I'm thinking, like, you're not a biggest fan as me. And I hear things that make my blood boil like the show got bad when Conan O'Brien stopped writing for it I was like no no you're so

wrong but I'm fine now I'm sure no we're fine I just scream internally but it's my own mania it's my own obsession that's why we do this for a living and we try to be kind to people we try well this also is an interesting episode just about Thomas Edison and I think to reflect on him, the way he is portrayed now or viewed in popular culture

is very different than when this episode came out in 98. Back then, this comes from like how the Harvard Nerd writers saw him as this, you know, American God, the wizard of Memlo Park who invented all these things and basically created modern society with his inventions and it turns out he was a symbol of america because he stole everything and was a cruel capitalist yeah and just hateful and had like really hard to be around miserable bigot is where i go to usually with him that's a good description so in that way he killed that elephant that elephant was happy it didn't want to be electrocuted well that movie the elephant did kill someone first though that is a hey you know what i don't care either like look

it's a wild animal what are you gonna blame it for doing that you're living in the elephant's world buddy that's all i gotta say he also was a bit of a trumpy and that like i always heard he really loved suing people oh i mean he used lawsuits to protect his patents all the time. He was an incredibly underhanded businessman, which again, is very American for sure. Yeah, and I mean, Hollywood exists where it does to get away from Thomas Edison. Like, he will not find out what we're doing here

if we move to California. Because the motion picture industry used to be in New Jersey. And I thought there was one in Chicago too. But yeah, that was the story I heard. I just had started asking before doing this this episode i started asking my friends like do you have any good edison stories and they told me about him being an asshole essentially created hollywood yeah yeah yeah i when this episode came out i had been very much indoctrinated into the

world of thomas edison hearing about how he had the record for the most patents ever which apparently is not true now in the 21st century. But for the 20th century, he still does have the record that he made the first light bulb, which is kind of true. There were light bulbs before, but he made the only one that could actually be practically useful. Creative movies, phonographs, wax paper, all the things listed in this episode. And as a kid, he was definitely, I see now it was taught to me as a kind of you know conservative myth of like can do stick-to-itiveness bootstrap pulling of like this guy became a a legend because of how creative he was and all you need to do is be creative it's like edison was surrounded by creative people who you've never heard of because

he just bought their ideas and bought out their patents. He buried their memories. But yeah, we're canceling him. He's canceled. Yeah, canceled Thomas Edison. To tell you how stupid I was at this age, for a moment when he says the line about being able to talk to the dead through the phone, the corpse phone or whatever,

I was like, can you really do that? Still not yet. Though that Michael Keaton movie seemed to say you could. What was it? I forget. Beetlejuice. Right?

No, the one about like frequencies. Like pulse? Yeah. White noise, right? Is it white noise? White noise. Yeah. That's right.

Well, yeah. So the turn in at least American public perception of Edison, I think, can be largely credited to the Oatmeal webcomic, actually. Like, it wasn't really publicly talked about all that much online until about 2012 or 13, where the webcomic The Oatmeal, which I'm sure lots of folks have heard of, had this very popular comic. How awesome Nikola Tesla was and how he got completely fucked over by edison he's like edison is told douchebag that he these were quotes from the thing that edison wasn't an inventor he was a ceo who posed as an inventor which again a very american thing to do and so since then people have turned on edison though then i found in searching for this that that also like forbes and Wall Street Journal and other conservative

publications have now created counter listicles of like, actually, no, Tesla and Edison weren't enemies. He's not as bad as you say, all these things. There's a real battle over the soul of Edison. And then also, yes, the Topsy, the elephant story has become more publicly known, which Edison in 1903 wanted everybody to know he electrocuted Topsy. He filmed it and showed it to the world. But it kind of got lost to time and then re-dug up in the YouTube generation. And there's an entire episode of Bob's Burger

is all about it, a musical about Topsy. It's one of their best episodes. He is in hell, and Topsy gores him every day. And that's what happens down there. He's in hell with a T-shirt that says, I electrocute elephants. And that's hardly the only animal he electrocuted either. I know.

What a madman. He electrocuted tons of animals as proof of the power of his wonderful electric chair. Also, the cruelty and barbarity of the electric chair. I mean, I'm against the death penalty, really. But the use of the electric chair is particularly cruel. Thomas Edison worked incredibly hard to make sure people died in his electric chair. There's a lot of dark stuff about Edison. I mean, sometimes you've got to self-promote.

Yes, yeah. He was all over the place. Like, when does he have time to invent shit? It's just like Elon Musk. He just makes appearances like, oh, I invented this thing from the sky when I told him to make an electric car. Oh, yeah. You called Tesla a pedophile once over the telegraph. Well, though, I will say, though, my last story about my personal experience with Edison is, as a child, I participated in elementary school musical about Thomas Edison. Oh my God. Was this videotaped? Our performance was not, thank God. But it was called The Electric Sunshine Man, which is about- About how he killed criminals with electric

sunshine? No, I mean, it's just about thomas edison is and how he was the greatest american who invented everything and it's just it's all edison propaganda uh i remember the chorus of the title song is the electric sunshine man doing the best that he can i saw that coming yeah it's uh i mean it's paying for children bob it's we we can only remember some of the words. Play enjoyed by none. I remember, too, I campaigned very hard to play a small but specific role I really liked in reading it, which was the patent administrator who got to wear a green little visor, like one of those clear green visors, and basically just says, wow, Thomas, I'm going to have to run out of patents for you these days. You're doing so many of them. I just loved his accent.

I wanted to do it. They gave you an accent? I got to perform it with an accent. I said, well, so we listened to a recorded version of it first by professionals, and then we basically imitated it. And I was like, I loved how the guy played the patent guy on it. So I was like, I have to do it. And this was done in many elementary schools in the

80s and 90s if you want to have a deep deep cringe you can find some videos of the performances on youtube i could only watch about five minutes one before i just like wanted to crawl inside of myself through like associative cringe at these poor kids having to have these performances filmed i was indoctrinated into the cult of edison at a young age there i remember my uh good friend eric lebarski he played edison himself he was the star of the play the worst i ever got with the high school musicals was i had to be in a production of the little mermaid where i played the seagull and they just told me to like hey could you can you squawk I'm like yeah I could try and like essentially it came out I was like they were asking you to live up to

Buddy Hackett's performance in that movie that's a lot to put on a kid you know now I feel for those elementary school casting directors that they just they got to get every kid something to do or else you're being like mean to them but uh well then again like maybe they should just go like who cares if i put the most talented in the role it doesn't matter like this is not like we're not doing this for the reviews uh now when i watch this episode i don't think about my childhood but my own mortality yeah and we're quickly approaching homer's age here yeah yeah i was happy he wasn't actually 38.1 and he was 39 like two more years two more years me and bob will be that age but it's uh not fun not fun i remember this being one of the first times i knew homer's age oh well

homer's age is a controversial topic yeah so uh the last time mean, okay, so the first time it was literally named out loud, his age was in Homer the Vigilante. Yes. 35 or was it 36? 36. 36 years ago, a woman gave birth to, oh, oh my God, underage kids drinking beer without a permit. That's right. That's right. And now he's officially 39. I think Bill and Josh aged him up when they became showrunners because they was like they were like oh we're we're approaching homer's age he's too young to be a man with uh you know a triple bypass surgery and all of these other things that are happening in his life so the history as i see it is that mars in season one on her birthday it's her 35th birthday in the second season it's said that they're in the same

year of high school so you should assume homer is 35 or 36 too they name him as 36 and homer the vigilante it is i i did a little digging but it was homer they fall where they announce him as a 38 year old man in his boxing match there this ages him up to 39 and apparently it is season 18's springfield up there one about the Up documentary series, they refer to Homer as 40. He officially becomes 40 in that episode. I mean, this was the one because this was the first time where I was like, oh, existential dread. Great.

And when I was a kid, I saw this and I thought, oh, is this how my parents feel? I think my mother was Homer's age when this episode aired or close to it, I think. Oh, no, wait. No, actually, she's 10 years older. I shouldn't say my mom's age on the air. Forget I said that. What's her social security number? The Sentence will be right back.

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but the triumphant return of Bill and Marty. They haven't been, according to the wiki, they haven't been seen on camera since the bark gets an elephant. Really? On camera? Wow. And it's apparently just been four seasons since you heard their voices on the radio. I think they just haven't had... When they play the radio, it's some other joke. It's not Bill and Marty.

But now they're back with a vengeance, and they'll be sticking around a lot in the Scully years. I always like this joke because I had a very boring... I used to listen to Stern, but the main local guy was unbelievably boring and would like refuse to do bits. Like his name was like Todd Rucker or something like that. And he's like,

Hey, it's a, well, it's the morning. Well, here's your songs. Nobody, uh,

they didn't carry Stern where I was. My uncle would bring back like tapes of Stern Stern he recorded on the road or whatever. Or his friends would give him. That's how I heard Stern. But there were so many Stern ripoffs. Like, the one in my town, especially around this time, was the Bob and Tom show. And it was just as vile as Stern, but not as funny. The shock jock in our area was the Grease Man.

That was in my my part he's uh the most racist i think he wins like he out racists bubba the love sponge even oh wow like actually bob and tom were not a lesser stern they were a lesser opie and anthony ah okay that's the kind of baseline they were reaching for unfamous guys in my area there were a couple djs who were the bill and marty type c the bill marty guys, which is what I love in this writing of the scene here in the clip I'll play in a sec, is that they have to follow a certain line because you can't be as dirty as Stern. They don't want to be that controversial, but they need a little bite, but they also need to not really say anything. So they let the sound effects do the talking for them instead of doing something incredibly obscene on the air or shocking.

It is a mix of the 90s shock jock and the 80s annoying disc jock. Yeah. Well, these guys are still the same. Like these jokes don't age because I feel like radio DJs now when I've heard them on like a shuttle or something, they're still just this. It's just, well, what's else in the news today? Well, it's not as much sound effects though i think i'm glad they didn't like reference a sibian or anything oh god hey springfield if you're driving you may want to sit down because it's time for bill and marty's five o'clock news flush

our topless story president cl Clinton has launched a new website. Uh-oh, wait, let me guess. W-W-W dot dot. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

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76.2, but I'm already 38.1. I've wasted half my life. Half my life gone, and I'm only guaranteed 38 more years. Marge, I've wasted half my life. Sir, do you need a tow truck? What are you talking about, Marge? I don't need a... Okay, send a truck. So Bill and Marty did not riff on that news story at all.

They just let that fact sit with their audience for like 30 seconds of silence. Well, Homer turned off his car, I would assume. We heard, oh, yeah. Oh, that's true. Oh, you're right. They just said it. They had no joke. I also am impressed that Bill and Marty, just like us, they play their own clips.

They don't count on some producer to do it. They have the buttons right in front of them. I especially love that I think it's Marty. He just has two buttons in front of him, the whistle button and the boing button. That's all you need. Yeah, that was how we started on We Hate Movies. Just the boing noise. I love, too, what dates this as not just the Clinton joke, but also the concept of a website.

Just like, aha, he built a website. Somebody could do that. I mean, there was a joke in the season eight episode of Hank Scorpio. The joke was the school has a website of just like aha he built a website somebody could do that i mean there was a joke in the uh season eight episode thanks scorpio the joke was the school has a website yeah that's a joke was something has a website and that's it that's uh that was modern comedy back then you just say you say bill clinton and you say website and you go to the bank and dennis leary be like www.fuckyou.com i'll smoke where i want to on the internet the frappuccino crappuccino like that whole thing shockingly this number is still pretty accurate of american life expectancy i thought the number would go down um it's gone down by 0.1 in years at least according to a 2016

governmental study that uh pegged life expectancy for u.s men at 76.1 years. That.1 is not your best time to be alive. And apparently, I was hoping it would be higher now, but it was 76.4 in 2012. It went down by.3 for men, and the government suggests that it's partially the increased opioid overdoses happening in America. So that's fine. It's bringing down the average.

Also, it does make my blood run cold thinking like, oh, I am middle-aged. It's halfway over. This sucks. One hell of a toboggan ride. Well, hey, honestly, if the world as it exists now can still have a civilization in 38 years, I'll be surprised honestly i'll be yeah i'll say that when as of the last couple years in this country i've definitely also been like all right so i'm halfway done okay i'm close almost there almost there almost out of here

thank god for that i love homer's march through traffic too is he saying like i've only assured 38 more years every car perfectly misses him this is a new low for his intelligence that he just like blindly walks through traffic not even scared he's getting hit by almost hit by multiple cars and then he picks up the phone thinking that marge must be on the other end of a phone he picks up and then when he hears it's not great logic he hears another woman and he's still like what are are you talking about, Marge? Though his car recovers pretty fast from getting totaled there. Or they just bought a new car very quickly. It looks exactly the same.

Yeah, I was expecting a Good Son style pileup in the background. Oh, yeah. Sadly not. Homer didn't cause that much death. Yeah, normally Homer causes death to other people. This next scene starts with Homer in bed. He is sadly sadly blankly eating flour out of a bag not a sugar bag like normal he doesn't deserve a sugar bag he's not

good enough for it you'd have trouble swallowing after like the first handful of flour i would think but homer i guess there's a lot of practice at eating bags of flour i tried that once i don't know if it was because of this episode. I was like, how bad could it really be? And I was sick for about a week. Wow. That is pure uncut bread. People can't handle it.

I've never, you know, talking about this makes me want to shove a spoonful of Bisquick in my mouth to see what it's like. But the closest I ever did to this was the stupid teenage kid cinnamon challenge. I'm sure. Did we all try the cinnamon challenge? I avoided it. I ever did to this was the stupid teenage kid cinnamon challenge. I'm sure. Did we all try the cinnamon challenge? I avoided it. I avoided it. I did stick a battery to my tongue. One of those nine volt batteries. Lots of fun.

Everyone out there, try it. We're just telling everybody imitatable acts now. Yeah. I love the design of Homer in his like gray tank top, just blankly, covered in flour. It's so good. And Marge is talking to him later. He's so pitiful there. But he then describes his funeral out loud,

which is a very Futurama scene in this next clip. Oh, God, yeah. No, Homer wasn't a great man, or even an adequate man. And he certainly never accomplished anything. President Lenny, you have anything to say? Nah. All right, fair enough. Toss him in the hole, boys. I love that.

There goes a real sack of crap. Indubitably, old chum. Oh. Marge, no matter what happens in the future, promise me you won't vote for Lenny. Glee-o-chum? Oh. Marge, no matter what happens in the future, promise me you won't vote for Lenny. Okay, but you've accomplished a lot. You've made me very happy.

Oh, yeah, they'll put me on a stamp for that. I've wasted half my life, Marge. You know how many memories I have? Three. Standing in line for a movie, having a key made, and sitting here talking to you 38 years and that's all I have to show for it you're 39 so yeah heckle and jekyll they just put them in the script and realized like oh we never got permission so I guess later uh paramount contacted them and they were happy about it but they still gave them a little bit of money but um i watched a few heckle and jekyll cartoons i knew i had seen a few as a kid but they're so

bad i never watched them because they just look like shit i mean it's just they're just smart mouth birds they're called heckle and jekyll the talking magpies and one's a real tough guy like this and the other guys look a very in a fetish british person and that's how it works and they have uh capers yeah yeah adventures they trick dogs they trick a lot of dogs so many trick dogs i just never knew that they even had names i i only knew them from like clips in movies occasionally but even by by 98 heckle and jekyll were completely forgotten the the terry tunes did not get a lot of play when i was a kid mighty mouse was the best you'd get and even then he's not that famous like well in his old i it hit me as a kid how many of

them were just like operas like they they didn't give you the mighty mouse action you wanted and then i was too young to appreciate the uh post-modernism of the second uh of the new adventures that mighty mouse had in in the 80s. I looked up Heckle and Jekyll as well. They haven't been in a new cartoon really since 1966. Wow. They did make an appearance in something in 79 where they were voiced, I think, both by Frank Welker. And then, actually, you could look this up.

I watched about a minute of it. There is a lost pilot for a heckle and jekyll reboot for nickelodeon in 1999 where they host like a talk show it's called curbside they could have been on the cusp of a heckle and jekyll research with this joke and uh and they were cast really well too it was uh bobcat goldthwait oh wow the tough guy and uh and Toby Huss as the fancy lad. I had no idea. Wow. So it was them doing like Space Coast, Coast to Coast.

Yeah, though it's fuller animation. Like it was actually animated. I mean, not amazingly so, but you can look up the curbside pilot on YouTube for yourselves. It's freely available. Terry Toons does not care if it's found or not. That really dates Homer's imagination, too, that he thinks of Eklund Jekyll and the robot from Lost in Space, which that's his name.

He doesn't have a name beyond the robot. And we do see a reference to Skinner as Tamzarian. He's dead. Oh, yeah. They pan past the Tamzarian grave. I missed that one. Oh, that's so good. I always get hung up on Barney and his Oscars.

Oh, you're right, yeah. I always think about that because, well, now, I mean, at the time, I was just like, oh, man, think of all of them. But now, having watched thousands of movies, I think about Barney in Manchester by the Sea. Oh, that's true. I think about him in Get Out or Get Shorty. In Homer's imagination, he resumed the film career he hinted at in a star's burn a star's burn he made puca hauntus the greatly titled puca hauntus title and he went on to be a great filmmaker it does suck it's bad it's sub mad magazine though it's weird in homer's

imagination nobody aged but him yeah yeah yeah this is the perfect just uh unceremoniously dumping of him into an open grave and his feet are sticking out of it. I love his cloven foot sticking out of it. And yeah, Ned is like Archbishop and Lenny is President. I love that he came to the funeral but refuses to say anything. And the way Homer reacts to it, it's like instead of him describing it, it's like he reacts to it being played for him he's like oh like that that seems to be a dissociative disorder homer has there

he's just watching his own uh imagination flashback or flash forward though also not remembering all but three things is another sign of severe mental issues on home and this conversation is the last thing he remembers i like to the march just rolls with it with it like, yes, I won't vote for Lenny, I promise. And just moves on to the next thing. I think I've had that reaction too or just imitated it from this episode of saying, I think something is bad and somebody says like, actually it's worse

than that. Oh no. And then just for a fetal position. It's the perfect reaction to finding out things are even worse than you thought. That could became a go-to joke whenever my wife would come in and I was was up watching movie or something on the bed and she would just say anything like remotely problematic for me or even like like oh you know we have to buy toothpaste tomorrow and i would just do it like just get into the fetal position like oh no it just keeps getting worse and worse. Homer's in a terrible state after this.

He's going to work without, like, shoes or a shirt. And unshaven, too. And parking on the lawn. And that it was cold at work today. Yeah, that was work. He's just cold. I mean, I'm shocked that he even needed to quit his job later in the episode because this is kind of, well, the play it puts up with a lot of stuff from Homer.

This is hardly his worst uh days but yeah that he just goes to work shirtless and barefoot that's pretty extreme and that he just parks on the lawn too because he just like doesn't care anymore uh and though i like that lisa when she summons him she's like let's put on your best shirt uh but yes the family tries to improve homer's mood with a classic this This Is Your Life. Have you guys ever witnessed or been to one of these? No, no, no. I mean, normally they would bring people

out, not show you clips of past episodes. I'm at home once. Like, my dad had gone to one of these. Oh! And he only recently talked about it because it was for his brother and like it wasn't exactly like it was kind of like they didn't want to do like a full what would we call

it like when someone's uh needs to go into aa oh intervention yeah yeah they didn't want to do that so they did try to do something like this oh wow oh geez it's a disaster oh god i i would be so pissed if i got a fake this is your life and then it's an intervention. Wow. That's such a trick. I guess an intervention is a this is your life because people read statements about how you've affected them. That's true. But in negative ways.

That's true. Yeah. The key to it is you fly in somebody you don't expect to see. I think these have just been replaced with the viral videos of like the son came to the dad's birthday party as a surprise oh yeah and i think that uh mike scully said he was worried people would think this was a setup for a clip show because it seems like it could be yeah totally it's like there is one clip yeah yeah but like it clearly isn't it i don't think i thought that because they start with the new footage no i didn't either though this is i

mean at this minute in an episode is when a clip show would begin yeah it's like we've made three minutes of new animation time to roll out the classics we hooked you in you can't leave now i just like the fact that he's shirtless throughout this most people are like uh yeah uh finally home i get to take off the pants and do the belt and just fucking hang out. But I've always been a shirt-off guy. Most people are pants-off guys. Yeah, I'm more pants than shirt.

No. But, yeah, so I cut up the This Is Your Life into two clips. Here's the first half of it. Surprise! Oh, I see you're having a party. I'll come back later. You can't come back

later because... Homer Simpson, welcome to your life! The kids and I want to show you all the great things you've done. Oh, alright. Maybe I can pinpoint where my life went wrong. Quiet, Dad. We'll have to throw you out of here.

The pictures! They're coming alive! There you are in outer space. That's pretty impressive. All we did was grow some space tomatoes and sabotage Mir. Remember when you almost became heavyweight champ? No. Finish him! Finish him! Well, there's certainly no greater accomplishment than fathering three beautiful children. Yeah, that's the one clip is the boxing thing,

but this totally is another production season nine thing of them just feeling the weight of the show. Yeah, I mean, we had a reference to Tam Zarian. Previously, we had things like, you know, finding Frank Grimes' funeral program in his jackets. Yeah. Though this gag does highlight a thing. If the episodes of Homer's life were actually remembered by people all the time he has lived an incredible life that no regular man has ever met like every celebrity had every adventure went to space yeah they didn't even mention that he's a gold record selling uh barbershop singer

yeah a grammy award they all forgot about that uh but then i i also do love the gag that homer homer getting punched he's like i don't remember that like that is completely gone from his memory yeah this is before the age of cte it was just a funny joke that somebody could be bashed in the head and forget punchy yeah don't worry about it uh and then they then cut to some schmaltzy stuff like homer being the least mean he's ever been with just a cute football tackle, which they immediately undercut with. Looking at it as if it's a real game. I should have punted.

And but yeah, I mean, the space Homer in space will always haunt the show of just like that was too great. That was too far to take. That's why they still keep referring to it. It's just like, can you believe you went in the space? That's crazy. I think it is referenced the most. Yeah. Like internally on the show.

I think that comes up a lot. I always feel like the musical career comes up often. I think the space one gets referenced a lot too, because it was a very internally controversial episode too. Like many of the writers did not want to do it because they felt it was too zany for the show, especially Bill and Josh were not fans of it. As,

as I recall. I mean, I love that one. Uh, and I, I like when this show gets as zany as possible. I it's, it's a really fun episode though.

It's not my, it's not my preferred type of Simpsons flavor though. There's tons of room for all simpsons flavor but i do think it is the best of the zany ass episodes for sure it's a really great one i didn't think twice about it when i was a kid because it seemed like it made sense like yeah homers in space because they wanted to find the most average man yeah and that's it uh but later i found out it's like yeah i guess that was a kind of a huge move for this you can't go back from going to space and sober barney is like one of my favorite things ever oh yeah yeah and also it's like it'd be good like there's

there's eight million great jokes in that one homer then reflects on the rest of his life in this next clip hang on dad this next part will definitely make you feel better about yourself. Hello, Homer. It's me, Kit, from TV's Knight Rider. Your family has asked me to take time out from my busy schedule to invite you to a very special... Stupid movie. Who invented these dumb things anyway? Was it you, Bart?

It was Thomas Edison, Dad. I thought he invented the light bulb. That, too. He also invented the photograph, the microphone, and the electric car. No one man can do all that. You're a liar, honey. A dirty, rotten liar. Finish her! Finish her! It's true. I read it on a placemat at a restaurant. Really? A restaurant? Well, now I don't know what to think.

It's so funny that clearly Homer has been set up to meet Kit the car from Knight Rider. Yeah. But nothing ever comes of that. It's like, I've taken time out of my busy schedule to invite you to, Homer. Just because it didn't play doesn't mean the meetup doesn't exist. The family should know about it. The whole thing with this is I really love thinking about process So I get obsessed with the idea

Of them having to call up William Daniels And be like, hey Could you do this thing? What was the production budget on this little thing? Yeah, yeah, it's like would Homer Just drive around in the Knight Rider card William Daniels would call in through speakerphone Or whatever, and by the way, still alive

Knocking on wood For safety's sake, let's play the talking simpsons anti-death jingle so yes he did play kit in night rider but i think millennials know him best as mr feeney yes from boy meets world and was he on uh the weird like streaming sequel girl meets world i think he was. Okay. I mean, I would assume it's limited appearances because he is 92 years young right now. Like Jerry Stiller, I bet there was a lot of sitting. I mean, I'd feel bad if he was standing in the show.

I'd be like, let the man sit. Oh, yeah. He's Dustin Hoffman's father in The Graduate. Oh, you're right. Yeah. That's how goddamn old he is. But Dustin Hoffman was also 30 in The Graduate. Oh, you're right. Yeah, that's how goddamn old he is. But Dustin Hoffman was also 30 in that movie. Yeah, that's true.

But he had quite boyish looks back then. Though I think this kid gag's all right, but I do think it's a little family guy to have Homer be a big fan of Knight Rider. It especially feels like a family guy gag of like, hey, kid rider you remember that right here he is talking like i wish it had been night boat because then that would have fit into simpson's continuity instead of death's then be like hey it's kid it's kid from night rider but march thinks night boat is a bad influence on the children but homer loves him yeah it was it was impressive they got William Daniels. According to Wikipedia, this and the 2000 Knight Rider TV movie were the only times he has resumed the voice of Kit, apparently.

He was not the Kit in that failed season-long, one-season reboot of the show that happened. Oh, that's right. That was in recent memory. Every single thing has been rebooted once now. I think it's more about waiting for the Like third reboot of things What about there's been no Buckaroo Bonsai reboots You know I think they've been joking about it for a long time But it's just it's not going to happen

I feel like it's one of those things that will get a comic book sequel Or something like that I'm sure they'll do I mean like you know They did the heckle and jekyll thing in 99 I think they'll bring it back in like two years they'll just remake everything eventually yeah every single i mean that is that's what we're in the summer of reboots like that's all this summer is there's not one new thing like aladdin toy story child's play men in black spider-man spider-man no new

ideas the lion king the, Charlie's Angels. A little over a decade ago or something like that. I would think for some people watching, finally they're rebooting that movie from 1999 and only that film. McG's masterpiece will finally get a new chance. I forget if he came back for Full Throttle or not. I think he did. That's a real trash fire. I'm just glad that Irish directors

are getting a chance in Hollywood. I mean, I would have rather have seen McG's Superman movie than Bryan Singer's Superman movie. At least, you know, McG hasn't been canceled yet, as far as I know. Though the Kip thing, though,

did remind me of things that happen now. You can very easily pay a celebrity to record a brief message for you, for many celebrities. I kind of want, okay, he's got to come up on this podcast every time, but I want Gilbert Godfrey to do an ad for Talking Simpsons, just to record one privately for like $100. That's very affordable. I think we could do it.

Yeah. I just want to hear him screaming our names. You kind of said that Don Rickles passed before this thing started. He'd be the number one. He'd be the like, Godfrey kind of gets all of his runoff, I feel, for this thing. But like, I think he would have really done the good stuff. He would have. Actually, Chris, you met Gilbert Godfrey.

You guys podcasted with him, right? That was when I wasn't here. I was okay yes i know uh that was kind of a fun and also kind of a strange uh pairing he seemed to not know what the podcast was but the gilbert goffrey is kind of like in his own little world in his podcast too yes yeah well i learned of this service not just for like b-list celebrities but for my favorite pro wrestlers of childhood, the ones that are still alive. A lot of them are on services like that where you can just pay them 50 bucks and they'll say happy birthday, whoever. Or they'll just recite some of their most famous lines, but like call you a pencil neck geek or whatever. I got a weird request like that from a fan at a convention where I talked to a guy after a convention and just you know a fan meet and greet or whatever and he's like oh can you tell my friend

brian fuck you and i'll record you doing it and i did and i don't know i don't know what he did hey brian fuck you so uh brian i didn't mean it your friend set you up and me too i've never had anything that bad i'm waiting for the first time I get to do one of these. But I did have a fan come up to me after a show. He's like, oh, my parents love the show. Could you just say hi to them? And I looked at them and I was like, oh, hi, hello. And it was like the top of their heads.

And they were like not speaking or laughing at all. Oh, weird. The weirdest thing I've ever been through. Can you FaceTime my parents? What a weird request. So Homer is now incredibly excited to learn about Thomas Edison. And of course he goes to a child's library

because it's too many dark things that happened at the regular library last for Homer. Unpleasant things. Yes. I really love the joke about the smugglers in the Arnie Morris books. They're all the smugglers and uh books they're all about smugglers this one's about pirates uh yes and homer uh i i have the clip all that i i did want to shout out a joke i only got this time the books homer is re are reading one of them is so

old that it says edison our greatest living inventor. Oh, okay. Wow. I never got that joke until now. I didn't get that either. And the other one called A Child's Garden of Edison. It's a parody on the Robert Louis Stevenson poetry book A Child's Garden of Verses. Okay. That's two ones I never knew before. But yes,

Homer is learning quite a lot about Thomas Alva Edison. Dad, what are you doing here? Reading about this Edison character. They won't let me in the big people library downtown. There was some unpleasantness. I can never go back. Look at all the inventions Edison came up with.

The stock ticker. The storage battery. Even wax paper. And look at him dance that's great dad and these hardy boys books are great too this one's about smugglers they're all about smugglers oh not this one the smugglers of pirate cove by pirates excuse me are you a student at this school? I think it's pretty obvious that I am. Go school! I love that school pennant.

Love that. We're in the era of Homer pennant jokes. There's going to be a lot coming up. I think this is the first pennant joke. Yeah, this could be the inaugural pennant. I love that Hardy Boys exchange, too, because the way he says it is like, this one's about smugglers.

Bart says, they're all about smugglers. Bart says, they're all about smugglers. Homer says, not this one. It's more complicated than I thought it was. Homer just said they are about smugglers. And if you want a really funny cartoon roasting Hardy Boys books, friends of the show, the Craig of the Creek cartoon, they did an episode about the library called The Final Book. It's a really, in general, that show is just a great show.

It's for kids and adults alike. Great show. But in the episode called The Final Book, the lead character, Craig, he's reading a Hardy Boys type book. And all he does is roast it the whole time about these totally unrelatable rich kid characters it's all about. And then they also said the key to every hardy boys book is that the culprit is the first person they meet uh i never read those as a kid because even then they seemed old and stuffy and now all i read are old and stuffy detective novels from the 30s so but yours have like sex and guns yeah you can't have in hardy boys that's why they

fought all those smugglers they couldn't be fighting like in opium dens or whatever that's true yeah smuggling and like diamond thieves those are all safe kid book crimes have you guys ever read any of the hardy like not not myself i i was more of an encyclopedia brown kid yeah me too actually and i say like i always like i i tried to pick it up once because uh i think partially because there are weirdly a lot of references like South Park did a weird reference to it as well and I like this is when I was like 24 and I

picked it up and somebody literally like looked at me and was like you know those are for younger people and I was so ashamed that I just stopped reading it oh that's sad yeah I remember the South Park joke is that they were just like very gay versions of Beavis and Butthead. Like, I found a clue.

They were always talking about their raging clues. Rock hard clues, yeah. And spilling clue juice everywhere. That's around the time I stopped watching the show. I remember watching that one with my parents on a trip to Reno, a family trip to Reno. I was 20. That's where you shot a man, at the Interrupting South Park.

The Gilberts are going to Reno. A side about my dad is that he loves gambling, but he actually doesn't like Vegas because there's too many things that get in the way of gambling and smoking there. All this entertainment and fancy food. Reno takes out all of the fancy things of Vegas, which there's not a lot of that. It removes those, squishes it down to like four city blocks, and that's it.

It's just a concrete building with the word gambling written on it. It's a seedy and gross town. I don't need my machines to be themed, thank you. I need my cherries, my gold bars, and my sevens. Just the guy in the in the corner hitting a blackjack against his palm uh i mean you could probably spend a week in reno for what two nights in vegas will cost you but i mean uh if that's if that's your bag baby i remember reno from um is isn't that where in the wizard fred savage is the wizard i think that's

where the uh nintendo like where they premiere super mario brothers 3 and for the longest time i thought like reno was the video game capital of the world i have to offer a small correction to the amazing plot of the wizard they stop in reno i think and they visit like a child casino which is full of like arcade machines machines and child cigarette girls essentially walking around. Oh, God, yeah. But I think they're making their way to Universal Studios Florida. Is that where it happens? It's an ad for Universal Studios Florida when it was new.

This is where we did an episode on that movie, and I wasn't on it. And now I'm really pissed that I can't remember. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the end of the movie is an ad for universal studios i forget which one but i'm pretty sure it's florida i mean orlando no it's california because the little hollywood the little uh autistic kid in the movie is like california and that's that's how you know yeah all right by the way it's not a very flattering

portrayal of autism or realistic i mean they're going off tommy which wasn't all that sensitive like so let me figure this out i'm like we brainstormed the ending to the wizard together uh but that librarian she never returned uh into the show i but i do love that delivery had been done on the simpsons before but i just love like i think it's pretty obvious i am not like but instead this time he says am yeah like that actually this will be resumed and out of the mods death episode there'll be a pretty similar line like do you even go to work anymore now oh yeah i think it's pretty obvious i don't i love his go school like that he can't even name the school he's like of course i do go school so homer has been just learning so

so much about edison that he even takes it to his local bar so this broad stands up in the ocean and this big wave knocks a bathing suit off yeah and then what happened omit no detail however small or filthy so anyway and this is the part you'll remember for the rest of your lives. Yeah, yeah, yeah, great story, Lenny. But here's one that's even more spellbinding. Once upon a time, there was a man named Thomas Edison. And he invented the dictating machine and the fluoroscope and the repeating telegraph. And he was a firm believer in Fletcherism,

and he played the organ, and his favorite flower was the heliotrope. Oh, and his middle name was Elva. And he never, ever, ever wore pajamas. Okay, I think we've been polite long enough here. Lenny, what happened with the dame in the bathing suit? Huh? Oh. Uh, how nuts.

I forgot. All I can think of now is Edison. I can't even remember where I work. Well, I remember where Edison worked. It was Menlo Park. That's where he came up with the tassimeter, the ore separator, and... James Watt invented the steam engine. That's boring.

You're boring, everybody. Quit boring everyone. So I wanted to find Fletcherism for everybody. Oh, yeah. Because according to wikipedia horace fletcher was an american food fattest who earned the nickname the great masticator that's masticator everybody by arguing that food should be chewed thoroughly until liquefied before swallowing and the quote was nature will castigate those who don't masticate he made elaborate

justifications for his claim so edison did a lot of chewing that's interesting i i figured it would have been a church centered around chevy chase's character i think this is a very accurate representation of people steamrolling conversations in real life yeah i have been guilty of this i am trying to be better i know i still do it but people need to know all about the new spider-Man movie I just saw, guys. It's great. You only told me about the most important parts. I did, yes.

And I'm not going to see it. Well, I might see it, but I'll forget that by the time I see it. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care?

I'm trying to hold back because we're probably going to do an episode on it i i just saw it yesterday but i i'm not going to talk too much about it yet it's pretty good uh yeah it's full of commercials for uh european countries that's for sure like literal commercials like the the london one i think is the most aggressive yeah i think so and there's also a weird dr pepper and so much dr pepper yeah very strange well and there's a giant dr pepper like billboard in in in later in the movie too but the the one at the start of the movie it's only at the time people are hearing this it's all it's been out for a few weeks so this isn't super spoilery but guys there's dr pepper ads in the movie Is that the villain in the movie, Dr. Pepper?

That's the secret identity of Mysterio is Dr. Pepper. But the film, I didn't like it as much as Homecoming. I did like Homecoming a little more. Oh yeah, I agree with that. I think what works in this one is just Jake Gyllenhaal is amazing. He fucking rules, man.

He's so good. Marvel finally has good villains. They've been on a streak of actual good villains for for a while about a couple years now finally well i think that was what was good i mean this is getting back to the ramey spider-man's like boring bob with spot of marvel talking a little bit you're we're boring people quit boring me no no but the ramey spider-man i'm sorry chris i know like the the villains were always like even at the end like sandman and venom are to me much more interesting than either the lizard uh or the electro they do in the in the amazing

ones oh yeah yeah as of this recording you guys just did an episode about The Amazing Spider-Man, which was very funny. We did, and it's, man, that movie. Not so amazing, I would say. No. I actually haven't listened to that one yet. I'm going to have to do that after this. Yeah, see? What we just did there is what Homer did with Thomas Edison. But to our listeners.

Yeah. I love, too, that that also happens in real life with these types of conversations where somebody tries to join in and you just go like pause like you interrupted my monologue of facts like I don't want a conversation. It's very important to me. You'll get one of those. Oh, that's cool. Anyway. Yeah. I've been anyway before and it just makes me feel like scum.

I hate that. Yeah. It's like anyway. What was that? Fred Stoller had a just makes me feel like scum. I hate that. Yeah, it's like... Anyway. What was that? Fred Stoller had that joke, like, anyway, go to hell, hope you die. I like that Moe just says a lot of, like, okay, I think we've been polite long enough. I wonder what the end of that sexy joke was.

It's seemingly the most exciting part Lenny told, her top came off. Yeah. How can it get more sexy after that? We'll never know. Well, this kind of spellbinding story of lenny's is why he'll be president it's true he's a real slick willy uh but yes then we come back to homer also annoying his spouse which again is is uh recognizable to any nerd with a romantic partner the party talks about the telephone talking to the dead i don't

know if this is entirely related to it but there's i had heard on npr a long time ago that stuck with me that like this old wives tale maybe but that when the rca's voice recorder ad came out of the dog listening to the phonograph you know the thing was that it could record your voice that's what they were trying to say and that the dog would hear voice yeah but apparently in the original this was was NPR told me this, so they could be lying, but in the original ad, it was the dog was on top of a coffin that had his dead master in it, and so it was the dog listening to the voice of his dead master.

It's quite a morbid ad. And so it made people think that if you bought it, it would play the voices of the dead, not the voices of somebody who was recorded before who might be dead i'm just thinking that like when we die uh it's going to be soon but there are thousands of hours of our voices recorded forever and that's for the future to forever yeah yeah we are the most like cataloged generation and then the people after us will be no second of your life will not be known

on some level i couldn't start cataloging my opinions online until i was like 14 kids are doing that from birth now i feel for those children i mean yeah i'm good with all the talk being left over i'm glad i'm not part of the video generation where it's all my entire life is on video oh me too digital videos to stream god yes yeah i every time i see i just saw one now where a parent shared this video of their daughter basically pulling their their like daughter five or under has long hair she pulls out the one of her bangs all the way and then picks up scissors and cuts her hair off and the mom like comments like i just let her do it she wanted to do it and i did i let her do it and it's the video is the girl happily cutting it off and

then when she realizes that her hair doesn't instantly grow back or what she just did then she starts crying and it has like a it was like a huge number of views i was like this this poor little girl she didn't ask for this shit i i hope the mom at least made a few bucks off of that video yeah i get kind of creeped out when parents post pictures or videos of their kids crying on facebook yeah don't share this with me yeah that kid's growing up someday i'm leaving for a trip my kid is very sad here she is crying like don't do that that stuff works with pets i just don't feel the same with kid stuff though i that stuff really needs somebody needs to put a collar on that.

Because I had a friend from high school who started posting, like, I'm not kidding you, like, the changing rooms in bathrooms. Oh! His way too old to be wearing diapers on, which maybe has an issue or something. He would, like, post videos of him changing the kit. Oh, jeez. maybe has an issue or something he would like post videos of him changing the kit oh geez like and like i don't comment on facebook posts ever but this was when i was like yeah pat you probably shouldn't be doing this yeah oh my god like to what end like what purpose does that serve yeah what is the audience for to mock your child that's all i guess so yeah jesus no that's that

that's wrong that i i feel i feel safe in saying that's wrong i think he should just stop i mean 50 uh what 20 years from now the hot takes on the internet are all going to be from the kids who grew up to be like my fucking parents filmed this or i was the kid you saw on that video you what you didn't know is my dad was x y or z like oh god i'm not looking forward to that i think the most accurate version of that is uh like as far as like seeing what it's going to be like in like say 20 30 years is uh have you guys seen strange days oh yeah that oh man that i a million years ago but yeah me too that like pov video like being able to like record your entire life from your point of view like that seems to me where it's all going to go.

And I'm really glad I'm going to probably be in the ground by the time that happens. They won't insert the things in my eyeballs to film that stuff. No, thank you. No, no, no. But yes, Homer is regaling Marge with some tales, and Marge has had enough. And then he worked on a machine to communicate with the dead. is regaling Marge with some tales, and Marge. He was a shameless self-promoter. Well, you're not Thomas Edison. Marge, that's it. That's why I haven't done anything with my life.

I need to be more like Thomas Edison. Whatever. And I'm starting right now. No more lousy pajamas. From this day forward, I am an inventor. Do us a favor., invent yourselves some underpants

I like the logic where Marge is like, Homer, you're not this That's it, I'll become that I think my line in the show is Homer's correction of like, that's where you're wrong He was a shameless self-promoter Just ignoring the fact that he is really annoying her He thinks she's having a conversation with him about edison it takes until the end of the next act before homer finally hears what marge is saying uh but the i also like the visual gag of homer you don't see anything below the belt when you're seeing him facing out but when the camera goes behind him

the window sill has gone down so you can assume that his genitals are exposed that dom deluise character really wants him to admit that guy uh that was bronson voice but he's put on a few pounds like this bronson voice has yeah that was one of the first simpson voices i started doing as a joke voice like i don't think i ever tried to do the major characters uh right off the bat at least but that one i remember distinctly trying to get that tone down. Well, now you know all the art of Charles Bronson so well. That's true. Yeah, that's true.

The hell of Death Wish. The incredible, like, fever dreams of racists. Those Death Wish films. Or even the wonderful assassination where he starts to talk about women's orgasms halfway through it oh god that one i have not seen yeah i missed it homer is so struck with his idea of becoming the new edison that after he puts clothes back on he he goes to work and quits well i quit my job just like you said to i didn't tell you to quit your job yes you did i remember your exact words you said i should quit my job and become an inventor or you torch

the house that doesn't sound like me well i suppose if this doesn't work out you can always go back to the plant that's the way i quit i do like the things left unsaid about Homer's life Like the unpleasantness at the adult library And not the way I quit There are lots of things that are implicated But not actually spelled out literally You just have to imagine that he somehow quit In a worse way than when he burned the bridge

And quitted the Maggie birth episode And played Burns' head like a bongo But this is also a standard thing of the Scully years and quitted the Maggie birth episode. And played Burns' head like a bongo. But this is also a standard thing of the Scully years of not caring that Homer has a job or that he ever gets it back. Of just like, I guess he quit. I guess he'll have a job in the next episode. Whatever.

They don't really do a lot of power plant stuff until Al Jean comes back because I think Mike Scully's like, we ran out of jokes for power plant. They kind of have done everything there. think the last time actually they never explained how he got his job back after he lost his job and joined the navy they didn't cover that yeah so we're already like two for oh for two of explaining homer getting his job back at the end of an episode but homer they really love jokes about homer lying to marge and tricking her like

this one especially i'm saying like you told me you torched the house if i didn't quit my job and marge just says she disregards that as it doesn't sound like me instead of calling him a liar skeptical yeah she wants to believe homer yeah i always felt bad about that one like she actually thinks she might have said something like that she would torch the house no they're so mean to mark like these these are mean seasons to marge like she gets uh they they they find a lot of humor in that which is like you know there is funniness in the cruelty but at a certain point i'm like could you give marge a break please or could she like punch back once on homer with these things the joke's just always on her there's like another one of those in this episode too actually there's like four

more of those in this episode yeah those come up there's like four more of those in this episode. Yeah, those come up a lot. I thought in this season specifically, I think I remember there being a lot of these. I just think back to Dumbbell Indemnity too, where like Marge, Homer leaves her with a flooded house and then goes to jail and won't tell her

why he's in jail and then creates Moe's bar in the, in their kitchen. And he throws a dart at her face she's really really dumped on in that episode it's uh you know they they get into comedy joke writing ruts and this is one of them just like they are just on a run with these bad things happen to marge jokes also there's good little uh animation like comedy there that's not in any of the lines of marge has a full spoon of food and maggie just keeps looking i'm like please like she's a hungry baby it's a nice little background detail yeah uh though it's hard not to identify a little bit with homer quitting his job

to work from home and live his dream like that that is what i do and and i think sometimes it can feel like uh you're justifying your job at home to a loved one, perhaps. I like just how with Marcy's like, so what are you doing exactly? And Homer just shits on her. It's just like, oh, no, you're not creative like me. It's sad that I feel that I never have been able to quit a job. I've always been laid off or fired and i always kind of felt like especially with the the the playing his head like the bongos in the maggie

episode i was like i was like i wanted to write a like a mean email or something i just never got to do it and now like you i get to do what i like for a living me and bob have told the story a million times but we did we did get one satisfying thing where we quit together and told our boss off. Not in a swearing kind of way, but it was like you are bad at your job. And you lied to me, sir. It did

feel pretty awesome. I don't think so. I won't lie. And we laughed all the way to the money bank. And I don't regret it at all. Because if we'd stayed there, within a year, we'd have just been in the mass layoff when they sold off the place, as we all felt was going to happen. I would be feeling the Homer existential dread,

like who is going to hire the video game writer in his 40s? Yes. Oh, yeah. But yeah, Homer, again, just like super negative to Marge, telling her, like, you don't have a creative mind like me. think of all create sorts of creative things here but not a table he doesn't name a single creative thing he thinks of he just knows he definitely has more ideas than marge and then when he realizes that that is not a table it's the dryer i love his reaction like ah my files so he put his files in there and turned it on yes do you think they would sort them or something

is that what he thinks a desk does? Is you turn on the desk after you file something away in a drawer? My favorite thing about that whole sequence Is him running up for the ideas When he can't think Because I think of just like all the weird things I've done To like try to get my brain going Like I've like jumped on my couch just randomly to try to think like maybe

this will get it going. Yeah. I mean, we've all done a lot of writing on this podcast and I, I didn't run at the, uh, the keyboard like Homer runs at the notepad, but I do get up and like pace sometimes if I'm writing something like,

God, what, what is the sentence I need to figure out? See, I never, I never learned any of those tricks because i really just i go with the tactic in writing that i learned in elementary school of the pressure of a deadline makes me just spit out words and i i hope they're good i anytime i have a lot of extra time to do writing

i usually do anything else until i run out of time again. Like that's, that's why I am kind of happy to be out of the professional writing field, that it was just a lot of pressure and a lot of last minute stuff. I don't, I don't do that with podcasts. I actually stay pretty good on the ball with it, but, uh, yeah, the, the running at the notepad to like, uh, get an idea that is so funny. This, this all feels veryed from the writers of the show's experience like especially homer homer's scene with marge definitely feels like a and the one with the kids in the clip i'll play in a sec it does feel like a simpsons writer at home saying like yeah you have ideas what do you think i should write this one about yeah i mean like uh

i feel a bit of homer's insecurity around mar march because homer is clearly doing a bad job and not knowing what he's doing but it's the insecurity of having a job that people don't understand like what are you doing like what is this like that's a that's real you do that so you make video games no i write about yeah so you write the stories no chris do you explain to people what podcasts are a lot or how you make that into a job? Do they have a lot of questions for you normally? My family still does not understand it fully. They kind of have come around. They know what the daily is or something. But mostly my mom, for a long time, she kind of referred to me as a radio personality.

I was like, no, it's a little different. It's better. as like a radio personality i was like no it's a little different uh but yeah trying to explain it to people especially the making money part of it oh yeah is always a trouble yeah i get like uh the statement and people give you money yep they just like can't fathom no my dad has given me a few times the whole i don't get it but i guess hey if you're making money like well i mean to even explain the idea of a say patreon like that doesn't make sense to people yeah i will go into conversations with friends or husbands and wives of friends or partners of friends and they will ask me about the money i don't want to talk about it but they'll ask me and i'll give them a vague number and they're like oh that's as much i make and i'm an engineer and then silence and i'm just like oh god i don't know what to do here uh yeah like i feel like uh i mean people often mean well when they

say this i don't know if they realize what they're saying but when i talk about you know i do a podcast and this is what we do and this is you know the patreon they they go yeah, I do a podcast, and this is what we do, and this is the Patreon. They go, yeah, I could do a podcast. I'm pretty sure I could do one. I feel like they're undercutting you. I could do that. I could talk. My friends are funny. Get out of here, you, with your millions of dollars. Well, that's like when you meet somebody who published a book.

You say, you know, I always thought I could write a book. It's like, well, you would have if you did. Where's your book? You have complete disrespect for how fucking lots of people have ideas for books writing i've never written a book like it's it seems really hard i don't think i want to i have to write a book and i don't want to no with the patreon thing i do to i just don't say the name of the service anymore i just say people subscribe and people understand of a certain age they at least understand the concept of a subscriber they get that yeah that's that's been where i go to these days but they still just don't quite like when i explain to them the idea of the show which is not like there's a couple

versions of the show we do out there uh and they're just like people like that i'm like yeah i guess so you wouldn't say that to that person job like oh, people like that? I'm like, yeah, I guess so. You wouldn't say that to that person, John. Like, oh, so people like teaching children? Really? That's pretty crazy to me. They pay you for that. People don't understand the pains of professional podcasting. I know.

They just don't. They don't appreciate that. This is for the 1% of our audience who podcasts. But yes, as Homer is trying to find ideas, he's pushing himself for whatever he can. He then turns to tobacco and his children. As long as you're here annoying me, let's have a brainstorming session. And here's how it works.

Lisa, you say one thing. Then Bart, you say another. Just toss out things and I'll use my inventive mind to combine them into a brilliant original idea. Okay. Um, automatic idea. Okay, um... Automatic... Butt. Okay...

Fluorescent... Booger! Mm-hmm. Wait a minute, these aren't exciting new products! You're not even trying! Okay, that's it! Both of you, go to your rooms and spank yourselves! Lazy father. Can't even spank his own kids. Homer, you can't punish

the children just because you can't come up with an idea. I don't see why not. They're my kids. I own them. Okay, we own them. I brought you a tuna sandwich. They say it's brain food I guess because there's so much dolphin in it And you know how smart they are It's no use I can't work like this Cut off from the scientific community You stay here and guard my sandwich I never hear the fish is brain food thing anymore

Oh yeah Nobody says that Well I think that dolphin gag, I hope tuna nets aren't killing as many dolphins as they used to. I think things have gotten better. I hope. I don't know. Honestly, it's hard to imagine things being better now, right?

In any way, it's true. But yeah, Marge just laughing off like, well, yeah, it's full of dolphins. You know how smart they are. I love that. I love that little line. Marge grumbles so much in this episode. I feel like most clips with her have that grumble in it. I remember thinking

Fluorescent Booger would be a great band name. Somebody should rip that off. It was like a ska. A ska genre. Yes, exactly. It feels the flavor of ska. Me and Bob joke a lot about Matt Groening clearly wasn't around things. And in this episode, Bart says booger and poop.

And boobs. And boobs, too, which I'll feel like... Bart doesn't say those kind of scatological words normally. I feel like Groening steers them away from his butt. He's real busy with Futurama. So, you know, there's the... Roosters out of the hen house, I guess, is the saying I'm looking for there. I also, Homer is smoking cigars, trying to think.

And this was around when my dad started smoking cigars, too. He gave up chewing tobacco for cigars, which if I had to pick one thing he did, then I guess that. If he has to have tobacco in some way, cigar. I guess the mid to late 90s was the era of the fashionable uh celebrity smoking cigars actually i just was listening to that we hate movies episode and i think on the episode it was eric who played a clip of arnold talking about uh smoking his stogies that's right yeah stogies yeah because i'm a stud because i'm a stud that i get to do the stogies i mean it was the era of cigar aficionado

yeah arnie was one of the big cigar celebrities like arnie and bruce willis like it was a macho thing to do to suck on a tubular thing on your mouth it's still kind of that like pierce morgan has a shit it does it in his abbey yeah and i'm like well that's just that's just holding up a red sign saying i'm an asshole yeah our universal reaction to the name pierce morgan was uh at the same time actually i guess this is just a couple years this episode after a fish called selma where tory mcclure is smoking his cigars to announce that it's a cool celebrity thing to smoke cigars now while cigarettes are boring and pedestrian for the for the poors out there

i mean i came from a household where both my parents like smoked like crazy but i actually never saw my dad smoke a cigar once no you know my my dad stopped smoking around when i was born took up chewing tobacco and then pick up cigars and he still was like puffing on a cigar. I think, as he puts it, he has a few puffs a day type thing. We're pretty strange now. I don't know how much he smokes cigars. I can't imagine he smokes them less now. I think around this time, my stepdad had a little

humidor, like a little baby humidor. All the parents were smoking cigars. A little rich boy. It was a little humidor. Not a walking humidor like the smashing pumpkins have i also though like the kids are the kids are mad they're not spanked like they're just spank them they have to spank themselves disappointed in their dad's laziness uh and though i think i was savvy enough of a viewer in 98 that when homer fell out of his chair and there

was no other comment about it i was like this has to that has to come back or something nobody said anything and it's not really a joke it's oh yeah i thought it was going to be a setup like he was going to do that at the end like at some big meeting or something yeah yeah i definitely didn't think it was just to set up that homer because it's not a new thing for homer to lean over in a chair and fall out of it he's done that before too i think the plotting in this episode is very clever and it's not there's no for Homer to lean over in a chair and fall out of it. He's done that before, too. I think the plotting in this episode is very clever, and there's no B story to distract from the plotting, which I like. But yeah, so Homer heads to the scientific community just for a cute scene with old Frank. And these should give you the grounding you'll need

in thermodynamics, hypermathematics, and, of course, microcalifragilistics. Look, I just want to know how to invent things. Tell me. All you have to do is think of things that people need but which don't exist yet. You mean like an electric blanket mobile? Well, possibly. Or you could take something that already exists and find a new use for it.

Like hamburger earmuffs. Well, I suppose that would qualify. Thanks, sucker! Alright, just stay calm, Frankie. These babies will be in the stores while he's still grappling with the

pickle matrix. Lots of fun Frankisms in that one. Pickle Matrix kills me. Micro-kelofragilistics. I like that too, yeah. Though this also, speaking of the era of the pen, this is also when animation-wise they were indulging more with Azaria's Gleigen, Gleigen. Like, I think in previous Frank scenes,

they wouldn't have extended it by two seconds for his full act out of Gleiven, Gleiven. It's more like a kind of like a Tourette's syndrome he's developing in the show. Yes. I do. I prefer the nonsense he has. Like, he kind of like blecks. Placid blech.

Yeah, placid blech. That's great. And then Homer just shouts sucker in his face and just drops all the books. That was great. It seems like he can't figure out the pickle matrix because he does not present the hamburger earmuffs to his family. He doesn't go anywhere with that. What do you do with hamburger

earmuffs? Are those literally like a cooked hamburger that then gets put on earmuffs? I mean, are those literally like a cooked hamburger that then gets put on earmuffs? Like, how does it stay together? You can just later eat them. I mean, I am confused to this prospect of a hamburger earmuff, for sure. Pasa bleck kind of ruined me.

Because now I almost never say possibly, at least like maybe when I'm recording or something, I focus more and I will say that. But in real life, I always say Pasa Black. Pasa Black. Pasa Black. It's funny, though, that Frank isn't even the most extreme version of that.

Like, Paul Rugg on Animaniacs, and Frank is like, that's the most extreme. Glagen, blagen. An entire scene will just be those kind of fake Yiddish noises. I like the montage coming up next where it feels very Schwarzwaldian

where the one problem in his diagram is the giant stick of dynamite. It's not a line but that is my joke of the episode. And those are all

real equations that were drawn by or just given to an animator by David S. Cohen who has a PhD in computer science. Is that right?

Yes. Yeah, I think heid cohen these are the kind of science jokes that leave like it's probably the last one in the show because he's not on season 10 yeah i guess uh is bart the mother his last script i believe so yeah yeah and so uh this uh say goodbye to these equations folks you'll only be seeing them in every single episode of Futurama from now on. But yes, it's funny that it's a equation-y joke for Cohen, but then it comes in with a Schwarzwelder-y joke that Homer wrote an equation, but then drew in a stick of dynamite. And that explosion is so extreme, way bigger than the explosions for the-

Kablemo! Yes, yeah. And so then Homer, though, finally finishes his inventions. The presentation of them actually feels very laid out, similar to Brother, Can You Spare Two Dimes and the debut of the baby translator. You're right. That's what I was thinking. Thank you, because it was killing me the whole time. I was like, what is, I remember something exactly like this.

I mean, even with the same, it's the same room with a white linen over it, too. But no one looked at it when he was in the john. They didn't do that, yeah. This was animated by Mark Kirkland, who was on the show at the time they did that episode, so it could even just be intentional, you know? But yes, this series of invention Homer displays,

I get a real feel of an MST3K invention exchange. Me too. It's also like the perfect comedy sketch in terms of its form, because it's like him presenting three ideas, and each one is more of an escalation. It's very well done. Homer becomes a prop comic here.

That's what happened to the Thomas Edison's of our generation. They all became prop comics like Joel Hodgson. The of homer's inventions is basically just a jackhammer like a handheld jackhammer which does exist very cool animation of the thing like out of control in his hand and hitting him in the head and dragging him across the floor it's super well done it's amazing yeah it's it's one of those things that you almost can't appreciate the artistry of it because you're just like yeah that's how it would work it's just natural like it's that's a problem with too naturalistic animation that it distracts you from that somebody had to work really hard to make it look natural

and uh also uh you better believe at least one nerd on youtube did build a replica of this specific electric hammer uh but yes let's hear homer oh well so then after that is one i will not hurt the audience wondering about that not gonna hear it on here at first you think it's kind of like a lame kind of opposite day sort of joke where it the alarm the everything's okay alarm will play when everything is okay which is you know like uh opposite day kind of humor which is kind of lame but then it's like it can't be turned off that's the joke and i have a pair by the way and during that scene he was like oh loud beeping now it's like, it can't be turned off. That's the joke. And I have a parrot, by the way. And during that scene,

he was like, oh, loud beeping. Now it's my time to shine. So he was trying to imitate the everything's okay alarm. Briefly, he stopped, but he's like, oh, I love loud beeping. Sign me up. That's kind of my favorite joke of the episode. Yeah, it's a really great one.

I just, the listeners can't hear that right now. It's too harsh. Hearing it again, just the listeners can't hear that right now it's it's too harsh but yeah i uh hearing it again though you can even hear the whistle great foley on the whistle dying out as it breaks i love that and just the yeah it can't i just love his scream of can't over the sound he's saying it as if it's like a quality of the uh like a positive quality of the device like oh it can't be turned off. But then Homer turns to his most feminine of inventions.

Oh, man. Now this next one's for the ladies. How many times have you gals been late for a high-powered business meeting only to realize

you're not wearing makeup? That's every woman's nightmare. That's why I invented this revolutionary makeup gun. It's for the woman who only has four-fifths of a second to get ready.

Close your eyes, Marge. And now you're ready for a night on the town. Homer, you've got it set on whore. Uh, oop. Okay, this time try to keep your nostrils closed. Oh, look what you did. Now I have to go get my cold cream gun. Dad, women won't like being shot in the face.

Women will like what I tell them to like. Now here's something for everyone. In the olden times, if you were watching TV and nature called, you'd have to get up and walk to the bathroom. It was the hardest thing in the world to do. But now, with a lazy man reclining toilet chair, you can just lean back and let her rip. You expect people to go to the bathroom in their living rooms? Sure. Believe me, every man in America will want to have one.

So the shotgun. Yes. Homer shooting Marge in the face with a gun. That's pretty funny. It's super extreme, but it's also very, very funny. Funny image of Homer holding a shotgun up to Marge's face and firing.

And that doesn't freak her out. Only when she sees her face does it freak her out. That would blind someone, first off, being blasted in the face. This is a very good point. Women won't like being shot in the face. In general, no.

And Homer's line of like, women will like what i tell them to like and also you had it set to whore is another classic line though another word that i'm like i feel like matt graining wouldn't let him have that one i think you're right yeah uh but i mean also the visual not just the visual of marge caked in makeup but also the like clown painting on the wall when homer points it uh the clown painting on the wall when Homer gets it pointed toward the wall. And a great sound effect, too.

Yeah. Oh, God. Such a great sound effect. And then the idea that Homer also invented a cold cream gun, too. I love that. And look, I guess definitely in a man's life, they do have the thought of I want to keep watching this thing or playing this video game. I do not want to go to the the bathroom but i still never wished for a toilet in the living room

no that's why you need tactical gaming diapers uh you know david sedaris had a great essay about wearing like a a business catheter it was called of just it was like uh It was made for people to be like, you don't want to miss the big game while you're using the bathroom. Is that just like a stadium pal? Yeah, yeah, stadium pal. That was the name. Yeah, sort of like that. So you can have a bag of warm urine against your leg?

Against your thigh, and you just walk around with it, which he says it's pretty horrible. And he said the worst part of it was trying to remove it at the end of the day from your penis. Not very fun. Well, Tim and Eric had the D-pants. Free to have diarrhea in. Oh, they also had your personal toilet thing that you hook up

to a faucet, right? Right, yeah. I mean, I think if MCU movies and Star Wars movies keep on getting longer and longer, they're going to have to start putting these actually in theaters. Get rid of the reclining thing and everything. Just have a shitter

in the seat. Now the seats, they vibrate, they recline, they heat up. I thought there was something wrong. My seat is so old. I turned the heater on on this seat. I didn't want this. That happened to me and I thought I was dying.

I'm so hot. I mean, the shaking chairs are definitely shaking things up in the old bathroom area that only make you go more. I mean... I think they shake because they don't want you to die of a blood clot during the movie, during this five-hour movie.

Anyway, yes, Homer just cut... When he flushes the chair i'm like so did he build plumbing from the chair yeah i thought there was going to be a joke about that like where does the water go uh actually you know what the it was going around the simpsons writers room in production season nine the laziness of you wanting to not use the bathroom or not have to leave the living room because homer also used his teleporter in treehouse to pee or he was going to pee into the teleporter it was a great nightmare in the 90s that like you had to go to the bathroom you have to get up like there was

all those get up and get the remote jokes oh yeah yeah that were proliferating at the time i was like looking back i'm like jesus christ well now we just all have our TVs in our hands, and we never let go of them. We take our TVs to the bathroom. Yes, yeah. I have trouble. I mean, I guess that's what I had magazines for. That's all I can.

It's foggy to remember a pre-phone bathroom age, but I guess it was magazines for me. I mean, you read the back of the air freshener. You read the shampoo bottle. That's where Dr. Bronner's comes in handy. Like all these crazy rantings. That's what I think got me into movies originally was that my mom would just have

entertainment weeklies in the bathroom. Like that was the reading material in the bathroom and I would just pour over those things. Homer likes his inventions. Bart does too. He both wants to buy the hammer and take a poop right then. There are two act breaks

in this episode that end with someone shitting in the toilet chair. That's really weird. The episode goes out with Homer. But actually, Dan Graney points out that he's shitting his pants

because his pants are still on while he's in the toilet chair. Yeah, yeah. That's actually extra weird, isn't it? Homer's pretty proud of it, but Marge has some bad news. Homer, all these inventions, they're...

Yes? They're not very... Yes, yes, yes. They're terrible. What? I'm not saying you're a bad inventor. I'm just saying these particular inventions are awful. And no one in their right mind would buy them

or accept them as gifts. But this is the best I could do. I guess I'm no better at being Thomas Edison than I was at being Homer Simpson. Oh, dear. I hope I wasn't too rough on him. Somebody had to tell him, Mom. In the long run, it's much kinder to...

Do you mind? Taking a shit. Two shit jokes this episode. Graining was sleep at the switch. But that also is a very well-observed thing of, like, that you... People saying they want to hear what people really think of something they made

and then just wanting to hear, like, well, they're not very, yes. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. We care about you.

Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? It's hard to take criticism from loved ones. It's not fair to, I try to not put loved ones in that situation of like so what did you really think of this tell me honestly because uh it just leads to hurt feelings it better to get your criticism from people online you say the meanest thing they can to you i mean i only fish where the compliments are biting so that's my strategy i did the smart thing and i just assumed that anytime anybody's saying something positive about me or the show, they're just lying to me.

That's good, too. That's a good way of thinking. Well, now that we live in the future, you could just read entire threads online about you and your personality and what you're doing wrong and the iTunes network exists to point out which person on your podcast is the bad one. I'm the one in our group.

I worked as a film critic for a couple years and I learned not to read the comments. On that level, I'm fine. The other boys have a little bit of trouble with it. But yeah, I just never, never look. I mean, I fought in the posting wars. I'm immune to comments now. Comments at first hurt my feelings now i see like most websites i think they even just don't

do comments anymore because social media just is the comment section it's kind of superfluous to have like an internal comment section we're all living in a comment section now it's a comment section that is the world we live in we this is what we have wrought with comments now i mean uh well sometimes i can resist it and other times i think to myself of like you know how you always wondered what's the worst thing people think about you you could find it out right now you could do it i wrote a negative review of man of steel so i know oh i already know the words they think of me you don't like killer superman and his death machine not a big fan not a big one oh yeah that might be one of the most

controversial moments i had i think those dc fans have finally given up i think they've moved on with their lives to you know probably join the mega crew honestly but uh but anyway yeah so homer is is despondent at this new reality it turns out he actually did invent something without even realizing it when he leans back and stops his fall, he reveals he put extra legs on his chair that catch it, which I don't know how well those would work. I'm not totally sure. I mean, would gravity really lock them into place as you fall back? Yeah, it would have to be very exact. And also, that seems like very weight dependent. Yeah. Yeah, I think you'd want them just to be locked in place as they are instead of flopping around on hinges.

Like, what was this? Was it the idea Dan Graney actually had? He's like, no, this would be great to have. They were brainstorming on what Homer's adventure could be, and he literally fell out of his chair thinking. And they decided that could be it. This is a weird observation, I think. I could be crazy, but I a weird observation, I think. I could be crazy, but I don't see regular chairs anymore. Everywhere I go, every chair is an office chair because I think we're just programmed to believe if you're sitting down, you got to be working. You got to

be working on something. Don't just sit there. You could be making money. My swively office chair I'm in right now can lean back as far as I want. And well, I don't want to push it too far but i bet it can take it i actually do not have one i used to i broke the three i had before um and i the thing i don't know i don't see wooden chairs like this at like in many houses these days i have some old ones that i bought like when i in my first apartment i bought you know the 50 ikea chairs and they were wooden to put it like the dining table the dining table me and my roommate both never used because we just ate in front of our computers or on the couch but when we bought the chairs we're like oh we're gonna use these a lot so i still have them i basically never sit in them i think one's actually just outside on the deck

so yeah but i do have a deck are you jealous much i don't see those much those chairs as much in people's houses too when i visit other people's houses and they offer an extra chair it usually is a office style swively chair or a folding chair yeah yeah i think uh the i mean the swively chairs too maybe they're more around because like the price point has gone down it's like they're you can get an all right one. Like the one, Bob, you're sitting in right now. It was like 50 bucks. That was not a bad chair.

It's comfy. But yes, as Homer realizes he's invented something, Marge even tells him that she'd buy one when Bart says that lamos would love this kind of thing. They love safety. I love that Marge is like, I'm a lame-o and I'd buy one. But then Homer is ready to tell his god about his invention. Look, Mr. Edison, I did it! I'm an inventor, and I owe it all to you! See? It's just a regular chair.

But I attached a couple of extra legs to the back. Kind of like the ones in the back of your... Ah! Damn it! Hey, Dad, heard you swearing. Mind if I join in? Crap, boobs, crap. I thought I had a great idea, but I must have seen it on this poster.

If Edison thought of that chair, how come it's not on this chart? It's not? Maybe he never told anyone about it. that chair might be the only one he made so so we got to go to the edison museum and smash it then i'll be an inventor but i thought you loved edison oh to hell with him yeah hell fart. I love this twist where now Edison is his rival and he has to destroy one of his inventions. It's a

very Edison way of thinking, though. Edison would destroy his enemy and then steal his invention. Yes, he has fully become Edison now. But though Bart in this act a couple times represents the audience saying, like, well, wait, isn't this a this a bad like didn't you used to

feel this other way the hell with him and i love his childish excitement at crap boobs crap like though it does uh feel similar to a gag earlier in production nine of um hell damn hell damn ass kings and so then homer decides he's gonna drive to new jersey out of nowhere and uh and this this also feels like that it's somewhat reachable in a day that it fits more with scully's view of springfield being in massachusetts where he grew up yeah i mean there's a there's a funny joke that i thought was just a it's it's a where springfield joke where the exit on the freeway is to New Jersey, Michigan, Oregon, and Texas.

But there is an Edison Museum in all of those states. Oh, I didn't know that. So I looked it up, but they obviously go to the New Jersey one. Yes, yeah. It's the big square building. I looked up a picture of it. Homer leaves and not only

does he steal Marge's wallet in his exit and tell her that he's just basically kidnapped Bart. Uh, but then Marge reflects on like, she just mopped the driveway, which like, it's a very Scully era thing that the jokes are about how Marge loves cleaning and just doing homemaker things.

Uh, they really shove her into a corner as a character yeah i just this is another part where i just feel sad i'm like oh man marge marge just doesn't get to have any fun it uh i mean the peak sadness of the last year for her was her just looking at that painting she did and just like had a lot of talent once baby yeah and it led to nothing she just walked away i think that's what's so uh like refreshing about the thelma and louise episode that's when she really breaks out like that i i that's like probably top 10 for me yeah they they should do they don't do enough with marge comes alive kind of episodes like she's she's just written is so boring she's either a

nag or boring which is pretty much all her in this episode i guess uh the season nine finale was a rare like yeah but it's her having sexy fun like it's just what's about the rebirth of her sexuality which still feels like a very male gaze thing of like i wish my wife still likes sex and it does involve Homer. Yes, yeah. It's more about Homer getting his rocks off with Marge. But yes, on Homer's drive, the ghost of Edison confronts him. I love this. The whole section,

it's all pretty visual, so I don't really have a clue. Yeah, I mean, not only is he not afraid of the ghost, but he tries to run the ghost down and does. And then the ghost taunts him or screams at him, and then Homer turns around to run the ghost over again and Edison hides. I love the pitifulness of his

crawling. Oh no. And he's crawling behind it. Cheering out from behind the bushes. He's hoping like he doesn't see me behind the bush. Does he like it? So silly that also that the ghost when he does hit him has physical consistent like he bounces off the car in a real way, too.

It's so silly. The logic of the scene is great. All these new rules about ghosts. You can run them down. They're afraid of pain and cars. They're scared of being run over again. This was a very Schwarzwelder-y moment to me, too. Ghost jokes always really brighten me up.

I don't know why. But this one and uh colonel the colonel clink uh yeah yeah those two are like ones i really like honed on to and will reference all the time the the ghostly powers playing around with what a ghost can do it all it all feels like playing off of just like you know dickensian stylestyle Christmas ghosts. And just as a nerdy kid asking yourself questions like, what's the rules with these ghosts? What can a ghost do? What can't it do?

I guess in Dumbbell Indemnity, which was pretty recently, we had Homer like, you killed me! He's like, no I didn't. And you're not even dead. Homer also compares Bart to Thomas Edison Jr., which I looked up that guy. Yeah, Henry's putting him on blast this morning.

Well, there's a whole article about Thomas Edison Jr. was a shame to his family, I think is the headline. I mean, who isn't? I mean, how can you compare to Edison? I think Thomas Edison Jr. was just, you know, your typical fail son before we had the term for it. He's just a rich guy's fail son. So what happened with Thomas Edison Jr. is that he would sell, he was not an inventor,

he would sell his name to back of magazine ads for things like magnet vitalizers, the Magno Vitalizer that would help rearrange your humors, your bodily humors to improve your life. And it was just like, even then, it was pretty much known as bullshit. And like Thomas Edison Sr. was very ashamed of his son using his name to sell shit. But really, that is getting into the family business, using his name to fleece people for money. Yeah, I thought that would make the Thomas Edison Sr. proud. I think he was mad that his son was devaluing his brand.

I think that's really what it was. That's probably what it was. I mean, as a junior, and Henry is a third, by the way, I think we have lapped our fathers. I think so, yes. But my dad, he was just a systems analyst, whatever the fuck that is.

He really was. That joke in The Simpsons was how I learned that that was my dad's job. When Martin is going, systems analyst, systems analyst. That's how I found out my dad's title was that. The few things I know about my dad. Number one, just really bad at paying child support. Never happened once. I'll take that money now if I can retroactively get that money. You won't even ask for interest on it. Just like straight payment.

My 1987 child support. I want it right now. The only thing with my dad, well, my dad has probably more notoriety in that he was a good dad, but because of some trouble that I won't go into the whole story about, there is such a thing printed in the New York Times as the Cabin Affair. Oh, wow.

If you want to go search for it, go search for it. It's quite the story. Wow. You're going to have to have a couple of fares to get above your father in that notoriety. You're going to have to deal with that, yeah. Then they arrive early in the, or late in the evening at Memlo Park

to see the Edison Museum. I also was kind of shocked. The dad actually hits his son when they arrive. He's like, why can't you be that excited? It's a very mean-spirited slap. Yes. Though, I mean, kids don't care about museums. They don't.

They're boring. Unless they're a fun museum. I think they're overestimating the popularity of this museum. People are lined up in the morning before it opens to go on a tour. Well, and of course, as nerdy kids of the 90s, we all know about the Edison Museum first from the classic They Might Be Giants B-side that I burned onto at least two CD-Rs to listen to before they finally released it officially on their No set. But yes, the song, The Edison Museum. Edison Museum. Not open to the public. Its haunted towers rise into the clouds above it. Folks drive in from out of town to gaze in amazement when they see it.

It's a fun little song. Yeah. They wrote it in 1991 for the wfmu uh giveaway that year which i think wfmu is still around i i will admit i don't really listen to it anymore ever since tom sharpling left it and took his uh the best show with it yeah that's when i stopped too which uh was wfmu's fear at the I remember, and I think it has been proven out. I really like the No record. I don't know.

Like, I'm not a huge They Might Be Giants fan, but that's one I really, really go back to a lot. You know, I think I fell off around No, actually. I did too, yeah. Okay. Sorry. Yeah, I think Factory Showroom and then was maybe the last one

I really obsessively listened to. And then it was just a bunch of B-sides into the 99 or so. If they came to town again, I'd probably buy a ticket for sure. I saw them live in Berkeley. Oh, really? Really good. How long ago was that? Maybe a year and a half ago, two years ago.

And they played for like four hours. It was crazy. Boy, I don't know if I want that. They missed a lot. It was like an octuple encore, almost. Everyone was screaming. It was great. But yes, as they finally entered the cursed Edison

Museum, as described by They Might Be Giants, we get to meet a fun little docent. Hey, folks, do you like riddles? Okay, then. How many geniuses does it take to invent a light bulb? Just one.

Thomas Edison. Oh! That's very good. And that's true, too. Funny and true. Now, behind that door is Edison's actual preserved brain. Ordinarily, folks, tour groups are not allowed to see it. And, of course, today will be no exception.

Now, no tour would be complete without a visit to Edison's Boyhood Gift Shop. So, apparently, that joke about not letting people into the workshop or whatever, George Meyer got that from a very old TV special that was a tour of Graceland. And it was Priscilla Presley giving the tour. And it's like, of course, we normally don't let people to the second floor. And we won't be doing that this time either. And it was the biggest letdown. He remembered it for like 30 years.

That's such a great troll line there by priscilla presley i just love like uh god that they i mean you uh dream of being told like you know we don't normally do this but like it makes you feel so special to so to then get the punch of like and it's not happening today either you're not special uh though the preserved edison's brain thing i don't think that's uh you know it's not happening today either you're not special uh though the preserved edison's brain thing i don't think that's uh you know it's more of a walt disney thing i i don't know if that rumor existed before the simpsons but there is a similar thing to that actually out there and you can see it it's not edison's brain but it's his last breath. At the Henry Ford Museum, actually, not at the Edison Museum, they have a little clear vial that apparently somebody was sitting next to Edison on his deathbed,

and he's like, I want to collect your last breath and then cork it up. And so it apparently is in this vial under glass. You can take a look. Edison's final breath. That's the Henry Ford Museum and Adolf hitler memorial the same building you have to if you give a little wink to one of the docents they'll take you to some special rooms there i i just don't believe that somebody farted in that no no no no no no i would assume henry Henry Ford breathed that breath in to steal his power or something, or it was part of some ritual. That's the story, anyway, that that is like the closest things to saving Edison's brain is the saving of his breath.

I would believe that Henry Ford is a modern day Shang Tsung who can just suck your soul. Yes, as Homer and Bart are sneaking around off of the touring group, which I think that's probably pretty hard to do in most touring areas. Yeah, there are cameras. There are people watching you so you don't touch and steal things. They probably don't want you to leave tour groups. But apparently the animators or the director, somebody went up to New Jersey and took a ton of pictures of the interior.

So it's all basically the same. So if you go there now, and if you're listening, let us know, like, have you been there? Does it still look like this? What's going on there? I'm sure somebody out there listening has been there before. I did read on Wikipedia there was a 2009 redesign of it or they kind of spruced it up or something. So it

could look very different now just because of it. But yeah, I would love to hear from any tri-state area folks who have been to that Edison Museum. Me and Bob, we're not from that area. We don't know it. But yes, Homer is about to destroy Edison's legacy so he can finally have invented something. I think too, this was one of the first times when I was watching an episode live that I can remember thinking, they don't have much time left. They get into the Edison Museum with like 90 seconds left in the episode.

It's a pretty speedy ending there. But yes, Homer comes to another revelation. Out of the way. This is one invention you're not getting credit for, you inspiration hog. Your electric hammer, maestro. Invent your way out of this, Edison. There's one invention you're not getting credit for, you inspiration hog! Your electric hammer, maestro? Invent your way out of this, Edison! Look, son. Edison was just like me! You mean the wild mood swings?

No! We both lived in another man's shadow. This old-timey nerd and I have suffered the same frustration and heartache. We're not rivals. We're just a couple of dreamers who set the bar a little too high. I can't destroy your work, my friend. Can I? No, but we'll stop off at the Da Vinci Museum on the way home.

Uh, I think that's in Italy, Dad. Oh, well then we'll take it on an Eli Whitney. Yeah. Should Bart know that fact? It seems like a Lisa thing. Yeah. Why would Bart know where the Da Vinci Museum is? Maybe he's just assuming.

I mean, it's a pretty good guess that it would be in italy somewhere right i would part even know his leonardo knowledge would be of the ninja turtles that's true yeah i guess well but if lisa came with him she wouldn't let him destroy stuff but yeah lisa would not be a party to this thing well you know actually in in construction of the plot of this it's funny that they completely forget Lisa in it. Homer only begins his obsession with the Edison because Lisa knows facts that Homer will later learn of how much he invented. Lisa gets no credit for this. And then, yeah, and he could reconnect with her of just like, wow, we both love Edison.

Let's work together. But instead, Lisa just gets forgotten. John Schwarzwalder's script. we both love Edison. Let's work together. But instead, Lisa just gets forgotten. It's, I mean, it's a, John Schwarzwalder script. Yeah. Schwarzwalder, uh, as Mike Reese said in his book,

Schwarzwalder often would write scripts and just forget to write lines for Lisa or Marge. The mother character. What's her name again? Midge? Uh, but Homer, I like Homer messing around with the Edison dummy and, uh,

like threatening it. And yes, Bart also is being very self-aware of just like, so another violent mood swing, Hobb, just like pointing out that for plot purposes, Homer just turns on a dime. That's what he did with Edison too. Yeah. Yeah. He does have violent mood swings. Homer sets down his hammer and walks away.

And we think it's just a happy ending But they have to really rub it in on Homer In the end of this episode Authorities say the phony Pope Can be recognized by his high-top sneakers And incredibly foul mouth In other news, Thomas Edison The greatest inventor of all time

Is apparently still inventing Despite the notable handicap of being dead. That's my tummy! Two new Edison creations have just been discovered in his museum. A six-legged chair that won't tip over. And even more astounding, an electric hammer. That was your idea. This brilliant innovation is expected to generate millions for Edison's already wealthy heirs. Dad, those should be your millions.

I gotta admit, Homer, you're taking this pretty well. Let's just say I'm sitting in the right chair. So if you watch that scene very closely, up until Marge says, that was your idea, Homer is on the couch. So between that Homer saying that and the next talking about the errors, he goes to the toilet chair.

One very clever thing I noticed just this time watching, I've seen this episode a lot, is that the reason they discover the legs on the chair is that Homer, he grabs the chair and shoves the dummy out of it. I think in doing that, it extends the legs of the chair. Oh, yeah. Because when they put him back in the chair, the legs on the chair are out.

That made people finally look at it and notice it. Homer really screwed himself over there. It also does feel like punishment for Marge for saying that no one would want those things. Then the TV is like, these are actually worth millions. You're wrong.

And the reenactment of the relatives smelling and kissing the money. I love that gag so much. Yeah, it's really good. The reenactment of them. They're already rich. I like, too, that they rub it in like, oh, they're already quite rich,

but now they'll have even more money. And the episode ends with Homer shitting his pants in front of his family. As you would watch it yeah i uh honestly did not expect a joke about a violent shit happening at the end of a simpsons episode also that i had completely forgotten the uh the fake pope joke was in this episode too high top sneakers and violent uh but yeah it was, it was a rollercoaster crazy episode. But coming from a real place of like obsession turned to anger.

And I just love, I love mean jokes at old timey guys like Edison too. Like it's a great old timey place to find comedy in. I mean, despite being just jam-packed with jokes and having a kind of a loose plot, it's a very clever plot, the way Homer discovers, you know, Edison invented the thing he invented, and then the fact

that Edison kind of reclaims Homer's inventions at the end is very clever. And, like, lots of laugh-out-loud stuff. My favorite part of this episode is, like, the sketch in the middle with the three inventions. It's very, very well done. And it's a great way to start off season 10. I mean, this is kind of unofficially the first episode of season 10. A lot of the dance is weird.

It's in this weird limbo area. But yeah, well, I mean, in the next episode, it won't be for a month later, too, with Treehouse of Horror. So season 10 is just off to an odd start. I remember season 10 because I don't know how you guys, when you started getting the DVDs, but I remember this was the first season where I was like, do I want to go to the Walmart at midnight to make sure I can get this one? I don't know.

I think I was Amazon pre-ordering them at this point because I was so obsessed. But this was the last head box. So this one is the Bart head. Boo head boxes. I think I just did it out of, you know, just how I had done all the other ones. I was like, well, of course I want season 10. I don't think it was like until season 13 where I was like,

I really have to think if I want to spend this money. By season 15, I think that's when I didn't watch the DVDs the day I bought them. Yeah. I would eventually. At a certain point, I was buying them for like, they were essentially podcasts for me. Like I want to hear funny writers

talk about funny things. Yeah. But any final thoughts about this episode, Chris, before we let you go? I mean, I, this is an episode that like the little jokes were the one,

like I remember the, the everything's okay alarm is definitely my favorite joke. But like the little drama, like the fact that I remember the everything's okay alarm is definitely my favorite joke. But the little drama, the fact that the money rubbing is a dramatization, the phony pope thing, and like I said about process stuff, I got hung up on the idea of Homer having to go to some craftsman to have them make the little invention ticker thing with him on a horse and like Edison on his, on his like bicycle or a horse or whatever.

It's very well made. Yeah. And I, I just like think about those little details and like love thinking about the story behind them as well. Yeah. I think it was, I hadn't quite turned my nose behind them as well um yeah i think it was i hadn't quite turned my nose to them yet i don't think i think like 2000 is when i'm not so much

watching weekly you know they're actually there was one last uh theme i liked and that i wanted to touch on was just that you know if you're you comparing yourself to your heroes can be a very disillusioning thing too like homer uh you know we all look up to people but then if you want to try to get into the same business as them you might end up talking yourself out of trying at all because you're just like i'll never be as successful as stephen king or rembrandt or whoever so why even bother kind of that it at least that way of thinking so i do like that homer at least uh briefly learns the good lesson of well edison constantly compared himself to somebody else too

like you're never the best like even or even if you are that famous you're still never satisfied but if you're out there listening don't start a simpsons podcast nope don't that's our bits we own it stop right there buddy uh but ch, you're part of We Hate Movies, a fantastic podcast. You've got a lot going on, live shows, a Patreon, so much stuff. Please promote your podcast. Where can we find it?

How can we support the show? We're We Hate Movies. We're a bad movie podcast from New York City. And we can be found on iTunes. And we have a Patreon, patreon.com slash wehatemovies. We're going to do a West Coast, I think Andrew talked about this. We're going to be doing a West Coast tour in November. Oh, yeah.

I'll be there. We're going to look forward to see you guys there. I think almost every, you know, I'm not good about like Stitcher or things, but I know you can find them there. And I'm really looking forward to your Patreon episode this month as of this recording. It's going to be Forrest Gump, and I'm waiting for you guys to sink your teeth into that movie. God, I hate that movie. So thanks again to Chris Cabin. Make sure

to check out We Hate Movies. We heartily endorse the podcast, and they have so many funny, hilarious episodes, and their Patreon is great too. But as for us, we also have a Patreon. And if you go to patreon.com slash TalkingSimpsons and subscribe at the $5 level, that's five measly bucks a month, you'll get access to all of our paywalled content, including all of our exclusive miniseries, the most recent one being Talking of the Hill, our first season exploration of King of the Hill. And with that $5 a month subscription, you also get every episode of this podcast. And what a cartoon.

One week at a time and ad free. You'll have the advantage. You can spoil all of our jokes and observations for all of your friends who won't pay up. And we also have a newish $10 level that includes our extra, extra long podcast, one per month. What is that, Henry? What's going on there? That is the What a Cartoon Movie podcast. Me and Bob each month for our $10 and up patrons talk about a different animated feature film

for up to four hours. We go deep into the story of a certain animated film. It's like our What a Cartoon podcast series, but twice as long and about a movie. You will love it. If you sign up at the $10 level, you'll be able to hear all of our previous ones, more than 24 hours of podcasts right there.

And you'll get to hear this month's, if you sign up now, once it goes live, Beavis and Butthead do America. I can't wait to do that film. And you'll only be able to hear it one more time. Patreon.com slash Talking Simpsons. I've been one of your hosts, Bob Mackie. Find me on Twitter as Bob Servo. My other podcast is Retronauts. Every Monday, occasionally on Friday,

go to retronauts.com or look for Retronauts in your podcast device. You'll find it on there. Click like and subscribe. I think you'll like it if you like video games. Henry, how about you? You can find me on Twitter at H-E-N-E-R-E-Y-G. When new things go live on the Patreon or the free feeds,

I am sure to tweet about it, as well as many of my thoughts on movies, film, politics, all those things. You'll learn so much if you follow me on Twitter once more. H-E-N-E-R-E-Y-G. Thanks for joining us, folks. We'll see you next week for Bart the Mother, and we'll see you next week for Bart the Mother and we'll see you then stop by smashing my chair you're only Who? Stop, Albert!

By smashing my chair, you're only hurting yourself. You! I'll get you, you fat lunatic! Uh-oh.