Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Three Men And A Comic Book With Danhausen

Episode Date: February 9, 2022

It's a big geeky week on the podcast as we welcome the wrestling superstar Danhausen to discuss the show's first visit to a comic book convention! After Danhausen explains his very nice, very evil history with the show, we chat about Bart's love for Radioactive Man, the childlike intense need for a valuable comic book, and Treasure of the Sierra Madre, along with so much more. So listen now to attain your Masters in folklore and mythology! Support this podcast and get hundreds of bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

I heartily endorse this event or product. Ahoy, ahoy everybody and welcome to Talking Simpsons, the podcast that smells like your grandpa. I'm your host, the withered old clam, Bob Mackie, and this is our chronological exploration of The Simpsons, who is here with me today. Hey, this is Henry Gilbert, and this is the imaginaryological exploration of the Simpsons who is here with me today. Hey this is Henry Gilbert and this is the imaginary podcast where radioactive man marries larva girl and who do we have on the line our special guest yes hello it is Dan

Housen here very nice very evil very famous you know just doing some Simpsons podcasting Dan Housen listens to you quite often on the road so he's been invited as a guest. That was a terrifying guest. And this week's episode is

Three Men and a Comic Book. You might say I feel like Radiation Man. That's Radioactive Man, jerk! I stand corrected. This week's episode aired on May 9th, 1991, and as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real

world history oh my god oh boy bobby time magazine publishes a tell-all on scientology toy biz releases the first run of x-men action figures and the infinity gauntlet comic event has begun issue number one has just been released so uh normally it's not so comic book focused in our history but this was an interesting week for i was like wow both those things happened like the infinity gauntlet comic was one of my favorite comics growing up like it was the first like big event i got into i was i wasn't old enough for secret wars like secret wars i was like four when that happened. So I saw the toys. And then that Toy Biz line of the X-Men figures in 91,

like, that was really when I was at my action figure collecting peak. And by that, I mean begging my mom to buy me every member of the X-Men because you can't just have Wolverine and Cyclops. You need more. Were they designed to be a possible tie-in to that Pride of the X-Men thing, or is this a separate entity? You know, I bet they thought that Pride of the X-Men would go into a real show,

but then the next year was when the Saban X-Men show launched, and so they then just had full tie-in toys the next year. But these were just straight-up comic book toys, and they were awesome. I loved all of them. And then 91... Oh. Yes, Dan? them. And then 91. Oh, sorry.

Yes. Dan has been interrupting because he had to say, as an avid toy collector since he was a young child, he had all of those as well. Ooh, even the Wolverine pop out clause one was my favorite as a kid. Yes. Also, you brought up Pride of the X-Men. Yes. Yes. What a wonderful cartoon.

Used to have it on VHS. Watch it over and over and over me yes 30 fabulous minutes for 1995 and uh nice intro by stanley yes we did a video commentary on our patreon that's right yeah and and the infinity gauntlet the comic like when i read that in 1991 i had no clue it would become like the biggest film ever like and at least until avatar 2 if through 5 come out which i'm sure will replace it but and this is really when america or i guess uh culture as a whole found out about scientology i guess so yeah time was doing a news story on it it's it's more front page you know i read going clear it was a good book i watched the documentary the documentary does not include anything about Sea Org, which is the craziest part of that entire story.

Yeah, that's the craziest stuff. When they had a ship that would go from dock to dock and no country would accept them, and no one knew how a ship worked on the entire ship. And, of course, all the torture and stuff, too. Oh, sure. But, yeah, read up on that. But, Dan Housen, you have other memories on Infinity Gauntlet, I think?

Well, Dan Housen was a little bit too... What year was this again? 91. other memories on on infinity gauntlet i think uh well dan housing was a little bit too what what year was this again 91 oh yes well dan housing was uh 100 years old only one only have lived once uh so he did not read yet but uh he did was getting toys his father was uh stocking up on them for when he got a little bit older ah i see and yeah the the infinity gauntlet comic itself is uh it's as bad as good as one of those crossovers can be because it's like jim starlin knew how to write it and also like just every character and make it fun and it really was about like it was fun because it was like okay who

would ever win in a fight hulk or the thanos but then also thanos would talk about like how empty success can be and how he yearns for oblivion. And it's like, hey, we've all been there. Yes. Yeah. Every single day. But but yes, that's that's what happened with this episode. But that's that's hardly as important as our big guest. Dan Howzen, the very nice and very evil professional wrestler.

Oh, I thank you. How gracious of you. Hey, everyone. Just wanted to say we recorded this a while ago before Dan Housen's amazing surprise debut in AEW this last week. So we won't be asking him about his exciting new career update. But rest assured, we're all very very very hyped to see him now in all elite wrestling me me and bob are big fans of you as well we uh when i found out you were a listener of our podcast i was like whoa oh my gosh like oh yes i believe it was uh 2019 dan

housing started listening remembers he was driving from driving from Chicago to Milwaukee when he first discovered your podcast. And it's been quite a wonderful trip. Dan Housen subscribed to the What a Cartoon tier and has been going back and listening to the Talking of the Hill and Talking Futuramas and all the other old cartoons that Dan Housen enjoys. Well, since all of our podcasts are three hours long, they're great for road trips. Yeah. Whatever destination you may choose. Great for plane rides and driving and all of the sorts. And yeah, I know you're a big Simpsons fan.

I watched your unboxing of the Vans one was quite a good video on the Love That Danhausen feed. Oh, yes, yes. Those were quite wonderful shoes. Dan hasn't seen them. They keep releasing new shoes, but they're not quite on theme as the others. Now, the Vans really were. There's a new run of Adidas, which I did buy a couple of those, I can't lie. But they don't have the same snap to me as the Vans.

You need a proper shoe tree. We've talked about this. A Christmas tree of shoes in your living room needs to exist, I think. It just doesn't seem as much fun went into the new designs. Well, and also, I mean, your toy your toy all the unboxings you do are great i i also saw like your your your quest for a brack was finally completed recently in a video oh yes that was actually a debacle of some sort because dan hasn't had purchased a brack because he found it for a good price nice bargain and then he got one from a fan housing and unboxing so we sent the other one back but it was fine because it was from a friend

ah that's nice now we're on the quest for the uh toinami futurama series all right yeah i saw you were able to get fry and lila and now it's uh yeah all your videos are great but also you're you're pro wrestling like uh you're in ring of honor you do indie shows all around it wasn't a wrestler i forget sometimes and and i mean i was i was just showing bob one of your uh your match with uh brian johnson or john stone and i i appreciate any wrestler that can get such a deep simpsons reference your wrestler has been crushed into a cube yes yes it's right yes well you know dan housing tries to throw in things uh we'll tell Such a deep Simpsons reference. Your wrestler has been crushed into a cube. Yes. Yes, that's right. Yes, well, you know, Dan Housen tries to throw in things.

We'll tell the story on here real quick, if that's quite all right. Where Dan Housen brought a spruce moose with him to Maine for wrestling for a company called Limitless Wrestling. And before the match began, he told his opponent to hop in. He wanted to see how ridiculous he could get with things. And then the whole crowd of about 300 or 400 people started chanting, hop in. Oh, man, that's beautiful. Well, and I mean, you have been interviewed by Simpsons legend himself, Conan O'Brien. Yeah.

Oh, yes. He was forced to talk to us. Yes. But he voluntarily talked to you. So it was a greater honor for you. Who knows? Maybe he was oh yes he was forced to talk to us yes but he voluntarily talked to you so it was a greater honor for you who knows maybe he was tricked into it and he's quite the wonderful fellow though yes as i've heard you describe yourself you're you're you're if elvira took over the body of conan o'brien and yes you know it's described some sort of uh ways to describe dan housing to people who may not know him uh and and yeah we i mean we appreciate any wrestler who especially a very nice and very

evil one that understands the the qualities of the simpsons that deeply and and gets it on national television as well yes that's what we have to do we get into those little graphics in the corner where they ask dan housing what do you want this to say and once and once you get it on tv then of course then the money you get more famous you get more money you know it all it all flows wonderful learned a lot from mr burn and crusty the clown his marketing marketing and merchandising that's true i never yeah we all learn t-shirts are the sweetest plum, right? That's true. And there are several million wrestling T-shirts out there. Exactly. We have to get, you know, the Dan Housen O's.

We've got Dan Housen coffee in the grocery store already, so get it all going. That's true. Yeah, I guess the T-shirts are the sweetest plum on your prowrestlingtees.com store. Oh, yeah, slash Dan Housen. What a plug uh but uh but yeah i i i got the honor of of of meeting dan hausen in person at at all out uh 2021 in chicago or hoffman estates you know but in and what a greater chicago area let's say i mean that that was an amazing show but the greatest thrill of all was meeting dan hausen in person uh you know brian danielson right below that but then adam cole just below yeah it's just below yes with uh dan hausen was

disguised in his human makeup and he could not tell who anybody was he didn't recognize you at first i had masks on it was good yes yeah it was uh all credit to my husband for recognizing you just by your eyes and going like no that was him i was like oh god there he is and we thought what a perfect episode to have dan hausen on about collecting comics and comic book shops and they're collecting uh just toys because you i've seen you in on your own channel and also on uh on ethan page aka egon's channel uh channel, you enjoy a trip to a collectible store. Oh, yes. It's Dan Howsen's favorite thing to do when he's traveling about the United States.

He tries to find a couple toy stores or comic shops at least and go and film a video to help plug the small business. Yeah, I've seen some great purchases from you all. Boy, just seeing you guys go through loose action figures is just fun on its own. It's a trip down memory lane, truly. This episode, I was curious, Dan Housen, when did you start watching The Simpsons? Since you were one when this aired, apparently. Or 101, I should say. Yes.

Well, you know, Dan Housen remembers, so he bases it off the first episode he remembers quoting, which was Marge versus the monorail, which then links back into the Conan, but he always remembers saying, Batman's a scientist. For no reason, just throughout the day, I'd say Batman's a scientist,

or I call the big one Bitey. Probably about when, but there's no telling. This one is also familiar. And the babysitter bandit. Oh, yeah. That was a favorite of mine as a kid. Because any Bart one that's central to Bart acting like a kid, that was kid me's favorite. This was one I replayed on the VHS'ss is many many times probably my most replayed season two episode because as a little kid i was like i still preferred season three and i i like some

see i still like season two but but i would always bust out the table like i gotta watch like especially just the comic book like first act i was like oh this is uh i i was just getting into comics right when this this aired aired as a youngster myself. Yes, it would still be quite a few years until Dan Housen was able to properly read comic books. But he would start it off with Morbius, he remembers. The old 90s Morbius with vampires on the cover. Who would have thought? Wow, that is perfect Dan Housen reading material.

And then, of course course the bongo comics yes oh that's so funny you mentioned i have my collections i got them out right here actually i was remembers the one that was based off the fantastic four cover oh yes yeah no that's number one actually let me reach a little farther here there it is yep that's it yeah added certainly the cover was probably torn up because he's probably like four or four or something i had the first run of like pretty much every first issue but but i read them so much i really did beat them up too much i lied they destroyed through use i didn't listen to this episode about how the the oils in your fingers can destroy a comic need that mylar bag.

Now, was there, is he misremembering, or was there a Radioactive Man comic as well? Oh, yes. Yeah. Dan, I believe you remember something of sorts. It was Glow in the Dark. It's him being exploded, and you see his, Bartman had the foil cover because. Both of those then. When the magazine Simpsons illustrated ceased publication and basically became bongo comics i received the simpsons one uh itchy and scratchy number one

radioactive man number one and bart man number one yeah as the remainder of my subscription we did not have itchy and scratchy number one but we had the other three it's uh itchy and scratchy was the weakest of the four i think just because they didn't know how to tell an itchy and scratchy story for like 20 pages yeah but it it's still it's well drawn and everything it's just the the radioactive man one dan hausen you have helped me just launch into this because the the radioactive man one especially if you're a hardcore comic book fan i think is the best bongo comic they ever did because it is an in-universe comic so basically it's like if you are reading it, you are reading a comic book Bart Simpson could pick up and read in the world of The Simpsons. So it's like here's an issue that was published in 1972 in The Simpsons, in the world of Simpsons.

And like Marge Simpson at 10 years old did a like fan letter that's published in the book. And they have an ad for like troy mcclure stars in radioactive man 3 as as the villain like all these uh like the uh if i may use a band word kayfabe of it is just amazing that it just builds this whole universe and then on top of that if you're a hardcore comic book fan who gets the references to like oh this is drawn like a kurt swan superman or this is drawn like a Jack Kirby Fantastic Four, or a John Byrne X-Men, then it's even more of a treat if you get that.

Oh, yes. We'll have to go back and recheck it out. Dan Housen has also just started recollecting old Wizard magazines. Oh, that was a favor to me and Bob's too. They convinced me I was rich. I was sitting on a fortune based on those resale prices that were

totally true. I was in front of them on a Facebook marketplace for a fair price. That's good. Yeah, all my old wizards, I was a I think from like issue, probably issue like 15 or 16 onward I was a wizard subscriber as well

until probably 97 or something I would guess. This is that in Toy Fair magazine until probably 97 or something, I would guess. This is that in Toy Fair magazine. Yeah, you know, I loved toys, but I wasn't as hardcore a toy collector as you and Egon are. But I just read Toy Fair because I was like, well, this is like more Wizard. And it's like more of the Wizard writing style and comedy and everything. Oh, yes, exactly. It was quite wonderful.

We looked forward to it every month and now so whenever i see even robot chicken now i'm like boy i was reading those guys 25 years ago in toy fair yes i i am really the odd man out on this podcast about comic books i mean i'm a weirdo it's why i have a podcast but i did not enter the comic book world the same way you two guys did i was more into like mad magazine because money was tight and it's like do i want one story for two dollars or a bunch of stories for two dollars so i chose that route what sent me into comic book shops was the mtv cartoon adaptation of the max ah that's what sent me into comic books and then i would pick up image stuff and then i would eventually drop image stuff and just read manga so that is my weirdo path so i

have no connection to anything i watched the x-men cartoon I like the batman cartoon but that's about all the cape stuff that I was ever into but I will admit I'm a weirdo and everyone tries to get me into marvel movies and it has not worked yet yeah they're not for everyone while also being for everyone yes exactly uh you're the weirdo among the weirdos disney is trying to break me that's why they had to buy the simpsons too like if we can't get him with these cape things Exactly. You're the weirdo among the weirdos. Disney is trying to break me. That's why they had to buy The Simpsons, too. Like, if we can't get him with these cape things, he likes those yellow people. It's like, we're the last straw.

Bob doesn't care as much about Star Wars, either. Yeah. I guess we got to own Simpsons, too. If Disney bought the rights to, like, old detective novels, then they'd have me in the palm of their hands. The dash will ham it first well yeah this i mean to set this episode in time like this is right before the like comics were at a big peak in 91 so in the 80s there was the more serious comics like uh you know the frank miller's batman comics alan moore's many comics especially watchmen uh and then of course in 89, you had Michael Keaton's Batman, which all was leading to these headlines like Biff Wampal comic books, not for kids anymore. And and then by 1990, Todd McFarlane is having this crazy huge run on Amazing Spider-Man launches a second Spider-Man book called actually third because they were spectacular.

Fourth is fourth because there's amazing, spectacular web of. And this was the fourth just Spider-Man. is a second spider-man book called uh no actually third because they were spectacular fourth it's fourth because there's amazing spectacular web of and this was the fourth just spider-man and when he launched that it sold a million copies and people were like wow a comic book can sell a million copies now and then rob leifeld launched x-force that sold even more jim lee launched the x-men that sold even more all these new ones. And then there was news going around of like, hey, you know those musty old comic books you bought in the 60s? Well, they're worth a lot of money now. And that's where this episode kind of springs out of, I think. All those old books are worth $100 now.

$100 whole bucks. Wow. And it's still important to note that, i mean batman 89 was out at this point it was a huge movie batman returns was about to come out everyone was talking about that but comics were still a sub culture uh people who read them were considered you know outcasts and nerds and dorks which is why in this episode you can just name like oh a vulcaneer a phaser and a lightsaber that's a joke the joke is that we're mentioning these things on a popular tv show i remember when uh like in 2007 when the big bang was on TV, when it was a new show,

people were like, he's wearing the Green Lantern shirt. This is an important moment for all of us. Yes. But I mean, that's how out of the regular pop culture this stuff was. But now it is mainstream culture. Oh, yeah. As of like 2008 and onwards, I think, really. And now everyone's a dork. Exactly. You're no better than me. There's a couple old interviews we've done that I want to throw people back to. We interviewed Bill Morrison about all of his work with The Simpsons, and that includes, you know, he worked on some Bartman stuff. He drew most of the original Bongo comics and ran bongo comics for years and uh and i think he's

very attached to the like lore and world of radioactive man that is entirely born out of like two comic pages and like three covers that appear in this episode he built a whole world out of it like there's this punt there's the shot of radioactive man punching dr crab from that bill morrison and steve vance the the two creative heads on the radioactive man comic they're like ah well dr crab is his lex luther and so we got to write a whole thing around that and he and they're like a larva girl's his cat woman so he built a whole story about that and also in february 2019 we interviewed jeff martin and i asked him some very nerdy questions about this episode. And he said like, oh, this was as easy as it is

because they were all comic nerds in the office. And though he said he only went to one Comic-Con in his life before writing this episode. And it was a Texas one in his youth because he was from Houston. And he met Mort Drucker there and he was starstruck meeting the Mort Drucker there and he was starstruck meeting me, Mort Drucker. The Simpsons will be right back.

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at patreon.com slash talking simpsons and radioactive man is really a season one idea that that it was not used as much as they planned on it because the joke was Bart's two heroes were Krusty and Radioactive Man who look just like Homer. And Homer is the Radioactive Man. But Homer is obviously not Bart's hero, even though Marge says that a few times in older episodes. Forget about that. Forget about that. I don't think he'll really be used again until season seven's Radioactive Man, when it's a parody of the making of Waterworld and other famous flops. I think so. Yeah.

It's almost like Radioactive Man is Jingle All the Way. Yes. Yeah. He's right. Jingle All the Way ripped off this Radioactive Man. Yeah. Yeah. Radioactive Man is like it's the scene of it and he's way off model.

But that's because it's the second episode of simpsons everything's off model but in bart the genius bart pulls a comic book down in his new smart class and his smart teachers like oh we've had this for studying remedial reading or something and but that's a radioactive man comic on the cover but everything else of radioactive man from this episode is built out including a very famous sidekick whose name became a popular band's name we'll talk about it yeah and uh and i guess last bit of preamble before we get into the episode is that uh they mentioned that this was the first time they defeated the cosby show in the ratings yes by i looked it up it was 12.9 versus 12.8 and it was a rerun of the cosby show because the season finale of the cosby show was the season finale of the cosby show

was the previous week go back to uh bark gets an a yes and we learned in that episode that they moved the show from sunday to thursday to be the cosby show so it went from being like in the top 10 to being in the 30s just because of that move and that attempt to dethrone cosby it really should just stayed on sunday yeah yeah oh and also funny enough when this episode reran it was the night in 92 when the final episode of the cosby show aired and they recorded like a uh farewell or like like oh hey the show's over kind of thing but you know what i don't want to talk more about that guy anyway um this is also uh directed by wes archer his last one for the season and i we've interviewed him before,

but now my next question to him is, were you told to stop doing twister mouths? And that's why in this episode you did five twister mouths. I think there's four in the first act. And I love it. I love every twister, every single one of them. Every time I say twister mouth, I try to do it with my own head. I know it's impossible.

It doesn't work. You'll kill yourself if you do it. You'll need extensive... Now, what is this twister mouth? try to do it with my own head i know it doesn't work you'll kill yourself if you do it you'll need expensive twister mouth what does this mean oh it's like uh when bart says uh fine establishment like crusty burger and his mouth goes one way and his eyes go the other way yeah i think the jaw stays in one position but the rest of the head turns yes yeah just an easy way of uh animating only the mouth well it's it's a fun little thing of just like an emphasis move. Wes Archer had been doing it since the Simpsons shorts, like his very the second Simpsons short

in 87. He does this twister mouth and Archer's not on the commentary, but the other people are like, boy, that's a lot of twisters, huh? We told him that he was only allowed to do one per episode until we fully phased him out. I actually checked because this episode is so front loaded with Twister mouths.

I was like, who did the storyboards for the first act? And it's not Wes Archer. It's Peter Avanzino. But I bet Wes was adding them in. I bet. Like, make the head twist on this line. Perhaps he knew it was his last one, so he had to get three more in. Yeah, Wes Archer sort of quit the show for a time he quit at the end of season

two and comes back in the back half of season three it uh sounded like he you know was in a better mood than that when he returned i don't think he was having a great time on season two but now i mean and now he's like you know mr rick and morty he's wes archer seriously is one of the greatest directors simpsons ever had he's uh so many great episodes of Simpsons and then left to be the supervising director on King of the Hill and has been like the I think top director one of the top directors on Rick and Morty uh since the beginning of Rick and Morty so Wes Wes Archer's been everywhere quite a resume yeah and one final preamble thing is that this episode's title obviously based on the movie Three Men and a Baby Quite a resume. by Leonard Nimoy. And between 1987 and maybe 1992,

there's about 35 episode titles of all TV named Three Blanks and a Blank. It was just a very easy formula for you to write an episode. Now, and there's three men and a baby. They pay $100 to split a baby? It was the retelling of the story of Solomon, yes.

They all buy a baby together. We can't share. Which is why it's a different baby in the sequel. Oh, okay. And yeah, also, a baby together. We can't share it. Which is why it's a different baby in the sequel. Oh, okay. And yeah, also a funny bit on the commentary for this one. To mark it in time,

they recorded this commentary the same day they did the table read for season 13's Old Man and the Key. Because they mentioned that they're like, oh, this was, there's a Bronson voiced character. And they're like, oh, this is the same day

we did our table read for the episode where they go to Bronson, Missouri, where everybody talks like Charles bronson voiced character and they're like oh this is the same day we did uh recording or our table read for the episode where they go to bronson missouri where everybody talks like charles bronson and that is season 13's old man of the key look forward to that one i would guess next year on talking simpsons coming up coming up right next year right around the corner or i guess no this year yes sorry whoops yeah Yeah. We're recording this in 2022. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Everything is on time. Dan Housen does the same thing with his Patreon shows.

He pretends he films them day of, but films them sometimes month in advance. And, you know, Dan Housen, also as you're a bit of a collector, did you get the Simpsons DVDs? Were you a collector of those as well? Oh, yeah. of a collector did you get the simpsons dvds were you a collector of those as well oh yeah so much so that uh usually during black friday uh dan house would rebuy them because he'd get them ruined from watching them so much wow or he just did not take care of them right away and then decided he had to rebuy them those cases are flimsy sometimes they can get beat up he hated the uh what was it season six with the first bubble case. Oh, yes. Yeah, the worst. That's the only one they had at the time, and it was menacing.

No, well, I'm extra sad that, like, I actually, I had the good case, the one you had to order through the website, and then in my last move, I, like, lost it. It's just gone, and I'm very sad about that. I have to say, even if you dislike the head cases, they are chock full of heady goodness in that they survive maybe between 8 to 10 moves of mine. That's true. They are rock solid. Meanwhile, I have all these sun bleached ones from my old collection of the paper cases.

Yes, paper cases. They get ripped randomly and they just... They arrive ripped. They arrive pre-ripped in the case of my Futurama ones I just ordered. Stan hasn't just got the Futuramas on DVD, and then he found that they're on at least Canadian Disney+. Oh, yeah, they're on Hulu in America still,

but you can't get those DVD commentaries. That's really where it's at. That's why I can't believe they still, you know, the Simpsons had the commentaries on Simpsons World, and then when it went to Disney+, they took the commentaries back away again. Put the commentaries back on or be cursed, Disney. Yes. Yes.

I agree. We'll curse Disney. We'll do that for Bob. Oh, thank you. Thank you. They deserve it anyways. So, yes, we start the episode with the characters. Marge is driving the kids to the comic shop.

And Bart and Lisa. It's something, something too that feels very like old i in the 90s my mom was escorting me around a comic convention they i was not dumped at the front door but like all right it's even three hours walk around a convention but it's now dan housing wow are we getting into the episode just now yes sure so dan housing has a request as to not frighten your long-time listeners, now that they've gotten to know Dan Housen a bit and have vomited in terror. We shall utilize this voice-changing technology if it is okay. Sure. That way Dan Housen can pretend to be human for the rest of, well, he is human,

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But yeah, well, you know, now that we're talking about the conventions, like, do you remember your first as a kid, and now you've done conventions on the other side of the table, and so, like, how has that changed for you yeah it's weird so i don't remember my specific first first convention of like what year it was but it was definitely uh motor city comic-con in detroit um where i'd go to that every

single year uh with my dad and i remember there being like a table of a ton of free stuff and it was like it was like actual good free stuff too it was like keychains and like uh posters and like full-on movie posters and everything nice now when you go they definitely don't have any of that um it's just like little pamphlets probably and business cards yeah i would go to those and just kind of like we didn't really have too much money so i wouldn't necessarily meet celebrities or anything but like i'd get a toy here and there like if somebody was doing free photo ops like i remember meeting mike tv oh that's cool yeah uh he was cool he was eating a sandwich but i remember taking a photo with him but yeah no i don't i don't have any specific year that i can

remember offhand but i just remember going every single year and also pretending that i was seven because i think it was like seven and under was free for a long time. I think I was seven for about three years after I was actually not seven anymore. And I'm a college student. Yeah, I went to a few in my low-rent town. They were

very low-rent affairs. It was basically what you see in this episode, but no one was in costumes. And one of the reasons why I never got into the Marvel and DC stuff is because they would always be number 5 000 number 8 000 i collected image comics because i would start like oh i found this new comic in the 20s i could actually buy the first issue i can find and buy it so i can actually find out what happens this is a pre everything being accounted for on wikis yeah that's my problem with collecting comics now is i'm on the road so much that when i go back to like if I finally see something like, oh, this is interesting.

I'm like, oh, issue one is sold out and I'm not going to be able to find it. So, yeah, no, I understand that that pain to me as a kid. The the way Bart talks about these old comics and says like, oh, this is like blank and blank. Like I loved that I could say, oh, well, hey, that's Venom. But did you know that Venom the costume first appeared in amazing spider-man 252 but of course some people call secret wars number eight the first appearance of the symbiote suit because that's when it first attached to him and having that information cataloged in my brain in a pre-internet time i i enjoyed that and being able to like that when nelson and bart are just saying facts about comic

books to each other like that was my experience like oh this is how i make friends we both say like oh do you know this comic book fact because i know this comic book fact wait i remember when as i got older and i would go by myself to like have a pull box and everything uh i would stay in the comic shop for like two hours and just talk about comics with the guy. Well, now you've done cons now, a handful of cons. Yeah, which is weird to be on the other side. By now, it'll have been done, but I'm doing New York City Comic Con or New York Comic Con. Yeah, NYCC. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I was like, that'll be interesting.

That's the first huge one that I'm doing, or did. Yeah, no, it's been cool to do these comic store appearances, and those are some of my favorite things to do now. Traveling for those and just seeing these shops and just meeting people who have the intersecting interest in wrestling and comics and toys, which has been a big crossover lately. And cosplay, even even now people are

cosplaying as me uh it's uh it's the most sincere form of flattery i think like uh yeah especially knowing how long it takes them to look like me uh hours it uh it's yeah i uh it looks it's quite it's quite a good look for for old dan hausen i know dan hausen always looks that way but yes always takes about 10 minutes to get ready put a sweater on uh but uh but yes the in our first clip here lisa and bart are comparing comics which also this feels like ripped straight from matt graining's childhood i think like i i would guess him and his actual sister lisa had these exact conversations here. Harry, Mom, if we don't get to the convention soon, all the good comics will be gone. Oh, what do you care about good comics?

All you ever buy is Casper the Wimpy Ghost. I think it's sad that you equate friendliness with wimpiness, and I hope it'll keep you from ever achieving true popularity. Well, you know what I think? I think Casper's the ghost of Richie Rich. Hey, they do look alike. I wonder how Richie died. Perhaps he realized how hollow the pursuit of money is and took his own life.

Kids, could you lighten up a little? Now, Radioactive Man, he rules. Never punches a bad guy without saying something cool. He's no wittier than the next superhero. Oh, yeah? Look, he knocks a guy into the sun and says, Hot enough for you? I stand corrected.

I like that for Lisa, hot enough for you is proof like, see, pretty great joke, right? And it really is no. Spider-Man has much better quips than that. Also, Radioactive Man is a murderer. He is, yeah. That's true. That man was not put on trial. He's punching people into the sun yeah it's uh i guess that also shows you that well that's one of the funniest things in the uh the radioactive man comics too is that the the

joke of them is that it's written as a right-wing reactionary comic that instead of like when they do for example in the 70s there was was the Green Lantern, Green Arrow comics, which were the total opposite, which were about like, you know, Green Arrow's like, hey, Green Lantern, you need to care about what's happening in America, man. And it's, you know, it's very left wing for the time. And when they parody it in the comic, it's about how all hippies are evil and it's all like a communist conspiracy. So that's another thing I love about the Radioactive Man comic books. And legally they can get away with showing Casper and Richie Rich

in their original forms because they don't show the full titles of the comics. They're obscured. If you remember when, this is just one example, when comic book guy is showing off the McDonald's coloring book with the Hamburglar, or sorry, I think it's a Hamburglar comic.

Yes. His thumb is covering up the H so it just says Hamburglar right so I guess you can show the character but not show the trademarked logo that's weird yeah I'm sure Anton Klebanau or whatever Anatole Klebanau was looking over that their lawyer yeah

we know the name of their lawyer oh sorry Dan Hasen oh no I was just saying getting ready to sue yes the Harvey people the Harvey they're very litigious I was just saying getting ready to sue. Yes. The Harvey people. The Harvey. They're very litigious. I mean, if they were able to successfully sue Fox, 20th Century Fox, that'd be one of the biggest paychecks the Harvey company ever got. The first twister of the episode is on Bart saying Casper the wimpy ghost. I counted every twister. But this definitely feels like how, you know, little boys would tell their sister that their comics suck because they read the comics about, like, jokes and friends and everything. Not about, you know, guys in costumes punching each other.

Like how, obviously, Bart is wrong to judge comics as crappy because his sister likes them. But it's very accurate to how the little boys back then thought i i would hope little boys are a little more open to not thinking that like just because your sister reads a comic it's a bad comic book i remember these being on like a comic rack specifically like anything like casper anything i just thought of them i didn't think of them as girl comics i just thought of them as like little kid comics yes yeah but also i think the simpsons might have been on that rack so yeah well the niche simpsons found and i wish those existed when i was like seven if there were simpson comics i would have bought them happily like in those the simpson comics despite simpsons as a tv show being for

older like you know people 12 and up i'd say the comics were more written for like uh ages like 8 to 12 yeah that's why when uh i was in my 20s and uh scholastic started reprinting the comic bone i was offended i thought that is not a child's comic i read it when i was 12 but still it's a very mature story and yeah i mean also the joke what a great dark joke to start the episode with at least it is like oh i bet richie rich killed himself after he realized the pursuit of money is empty like oh what a dark i i have used that marge could you lighten up a little a few times i mean i've seen that yeah i've seen it appear in the talking simpsons discord with any when any bit of conversation uh in one of the pages gets a little too dark or depressing yeah i've seen people share like kids could you lighten up a little just drop a quick marge yes yeah so they head off to the convention

uh march just dumps them at the front door again feels very uh 70s to me i think that was a joke i got for the first time where she says we're here and then she drives off it just so fast and on the way i noticed for the first time as well they pass uh Bob's RV Roundup. Oh, I missed that. The RV place from season one. Oh, that's cool. With that freakish character never to be seen again. Yes. Or maybe he was.

The Simpsons' first Bob. Yes. Yeah. They get dropped off. Full price admission is $8. I was just seeing a one-day pass to that New York Comic Con, $60. A little bit different.

A little different, yeah. And I don't think there's a discount if you dress as a cartoon character no because i i feel like that's like half of the people there like that everybody does cosplay now it's way different yeah i i think you know i've seen uh some of my favorite stuff i ever see on twitter shared is like photos from like 80s conventions like wow look at that cosplay in a pre-internet era uh but i don't feel like the first conventions i recall going to in in uh orlando florida they definitely did not uh i don't remember a ton of people dressing up there were some but i not uh hardly that many i think i

remember uh we talked about it a little bit earlier but in wizard didn't they have a section of um and they do contests and i think give away like a statue or a toy or something now the funny thing at conventions is just to find like if you see somebody who's like just the joker or just uh deadpool that's kind of boring like everybody is across is a mashup costume now like like oh i'm deadpool if i was if i was a pro wrestler i'm deadpool but macho man or whatever i did see one that i liked it was um it was galactus but in the morning so he had a robe on and he had coffee oh that's good that's i that's fun because i love galactus so it was a

nice visual i i remember a very brave man uh who you know uh not he didn't have the body of namor but he was wearing Namor's costume, which was just green Speedos and a trident. Oh, good. Sure. Yeah. Well, we have a lot of big debuts in this episode. The most boring debut in this episode is that of the Springfield Convention Center.

Oh, yeah. They do go here all the time. It'll come back like 15 times. That's right. So, yes. Is that where they do the candy convention as well? It is, yeah. Yep, yep, yep.

Yeah, the candy convention, the Bayman Sci-Fi con was there for, for the better. Well, it shows you this, this is something you can see how comic conventions grew just in the nineties, because this joke here is about, I would, they joke on the commentary. They're like, oh, this was easy for us producers to write. Cause we've all been to comic cons and I would bet this is like, oh, this is what, uh, especially cause they're in los angeles i would bet at least one of the producers on this episode had gone to san diego comic con the previous year and san diego you know is the biggest uh well

when it happens again it it was the most giant con i've ever been to but you see pictures from like the 89 one and i mean it's you know it's not like dinky it doesn't look exactly like this does but it was certainly much smaller scale oh yeah yeah everything is way bigger now as far as comic-con goes because like you're saying earlier bob is just like it's it wasn't as popular like you were like you were thought of as actual dorks and yeah like it's everybody is a dork now, and it's cool. And they were about comics. It wasn't like, come to Comic-Con and meet CW stars. Yes, yeah.

It was, no, go here and buy comics, and perhaps meet Stanley or something. Yeah. It was special to me. I wish more wrestlers were showing up at cons when I was a kid. I think it was in the Attitude Era, like 99 or so, when I went to a MegaCon. I was like, oh, hey, hey wow look uh china's here or mankind is here but uh like in my first cons in like 93 i was not seeing you know like the steiner brothers they didn't appear at comic cons no i think i remember uh kmart had bret hart at it

one time so i went and met bret hart at kmart uh bret hart came out that's not i met i think it's supposed to be sting and then he uh got pulled and then bret hart was the replacement so i i met the bushwhackers when we were buying fireworks that's it you can't they were just there independently yes so they were in line with us no no there was a little booth that's and i was afraid they would lick me, so I kept my distance. Danger. You know, you can't do that. They wouldn't do that one now.

You know, Hangman Page was drinking people's beers right up before lockdown, and he had to put out a press release like, I do not drink beers anymore. I will not drink your beer. Yeah. You, meanwhile, like Dan Housen, you feed teeth to people in a very hygienic way this is true it's uh they're all sterilized and clean and uh prepped in a you know sterile jar for each individual opponent uh but yes they they arrive at the convention bart decides he is going to dress up to try to get a discount and he dresses up as bart man, which Bartman, I was already a huge fan.

When I saw Bartman in this episode, I was like, my favorite character, Bartman, yay. Rarely acknowledged by the show, by the way. I think his own, he has like two other appearances. His next one will be 16 years later. Yes. In the episode, Revenge is a Dish Best Served Three Times, a Treehouse of Horror style episode in which it is three stories about revenge.

One of them is a Bartman segment. Ah, right, right, right. But I think that's the only time... Oh, sorry, Dan Hasen. Go ahead. No, I was just saying, I don't know if I've seen that one. What season was that in? That is season... Let's see.

That's season 18. Wow. Okay, yes. I definitely have not seen it. Yeah. So that's the one time the fictional Bartman was portrayed on the show. But in case you're not as old as us, Bartman is a licensing

character uh he looks like he's a bootleg t-shirt but he's not it's officially it's official merchandise because Batman was so big Bat and Bart are similar words so what if uh Bart was a Batman style character and I think it was like Bartman Avenger of Evil and it was him saying watch it dude or something like that yeah I believe watch it dude was his catchphrase and he's you could tell he was for marketing because he had the light blue shirt of a commercial bart instead of uh like he wears in this episode of the orange shirt i was as a little kid even i was like he should be wearing his blue shirt when he comes out of there not the orange shirt yeah i remember being really confused because i saw bartman's stuff everywhere and it was not really ever in the show well and i had uh i i looked this up uh toy wise so definitely the bartman shirts launched in 89 i would guess by fall of 89 in the lead up because

there was a bunch of simpsons merch ready for the premiere of the tv show but then it really started rolling out as 90 continued but so there was there was already the bartman shirt and posters and stuff then in the 1990 mattel line of of simpsons toys there was a bartman figure among those which i loved that bartman figure i played with him all the time and then in the 91 arcade game that we covered bart man is his superhero invincibility like fly-in animation as well and the worst simpsons nes game is uh bart man meets radioactive man which i don't think i played that one oh uh it's awful and i believe it is a reskin swamp thing game they didn't release all right so it's real bad yeah the only one i remember like playing over and over was bart versus the space

mutants i think it was and that one's tough enough as it is or not it's like it's real bad yeah the only one i remember like playing over and over was bart versus the space mutants i think it was and that one's tough enough as it is or not it's like it's already not that great and then each one they made after that they're like let's work a little less hard on these even though i had one for game boy too like a treehouse of horror oh yeah the uh there was the b barton the beanstalk did you have that one no I didn't have that one. I can't remember which one I had. I think it was in a clear black case. Ah, okay. Game Boy Color. If it was GBC, I wasn't playing those as much.

I will say the cover art for all of those first run Bart games by Bill Morrison were great. It includes the amazing cover. I love the cover to Bart Man versus Radioactive Man. Meats. They don't fight. They meet. They meet. Sorry. I would go collect those collect those no problem but i wouldn't play those like they look great uh well now man you talk about you you'd probably have a much cheaper deal buying a bart man mattel toy than trying to buy the nes uh arcade uh classics market has really gone up

over the last even for things no one should ever play again yes yeah yeah i haven't looked those up so i'm not sure i i avoided the uh arcade cabinet i almost bought it uh you know you're talking to a proud owner uh yeah yeah i know i know uh it's it's uh by the time people are listening to this i'm sure it's set up in my house right now or or i'm waiting to just like i'll i'll build it when i move it'll stay in a box in my closet for that you know i'll say right now it is a buyer's market for bartman meets radioactive man for the nes a loose cart is uh 30 bucks around 30 bucks and i mean you know complete in box uh around 150 but still that's kind of on the lower end for a game of that vintage

oh sure complete that's that you know what you're selling me on this but i really hope i'm not no i'm kidding me and dan hausen are gonna go on an ebay like we'll be bidding it up higher and higher on ebay against each other yes that way we both lose uh but uh but yes bart then presents himself as i'm bart man in the same kind of shot as michael keaton saying i'm batman to the thug at the start of that movie uh but the guy doesn't buy it and bart has to pay the full price great design on the like this just small collection of cluttered tables with just like junk everywhere no rhyme or reason to it i i also like lisa's uh very vintage but meta joke too bad we didn't come

dress as popular cartoon characters that's great i i love any jokes about their like brief time their brief time of super popularity i i do like that and and uh yes as they arrive that's when uh old mayor quimby is is greeting everybody and like this this seems you know this is treated as a joke of like oh the mayor cares so much about 300 to the local economy but like the local governments of like anaheim chicago san diego they really do especially like san diego they never want san diego comic-con to leave like they have changed laws they have uh given tax write-offs they want san diego comic-con to stay there forever because uh every time they're about to leave i've seen this happen

like twice in my lifetime where the rumors are like san diego might go to anaheim and anaheim is like rolling out the red carpet saying we built a brand new convention center for you way better than the one in san diego come on down and san diego's like please no don't don't leave us and i would have been that nerdy kid correcting the mayor when he gets that name wrong. Oh, yeah. I wrote down it's very similar to, what is it, Nelson in class during the Radioactive Man episode. Oh, yes. Yeah. Where he's called Nation Man.

Strange. I shouldn't have been able to hear that. Yeah. A better version of that. I was like, this Mayor Quimby joke is a very Principal Skinner-esque. Like, he could have been in there instead. But it had to be Mayor Quimby, but it wouldn't have made sense for Skinner to be the person presenting it. In this case with Quimby, you get a joke about political reprisals.

Like, he's planning something bad to happen to old Jimbo for humiliating him. He's going to put a boot on Jimbo's dad's car or something. Also, since they say it twice in this episode i think this is why even as a kid i said i stand corrected if somebody ever corrected me on something i just say i stand corrected and also a real funny bit here about the shriners like i haven't had cons that have to end early but definitely i in the 90s and even to uh like a month ago when I went to AEW Fan Fest the interesting thing is is that these conventions at convention centers they're so big they have to share space with other cons and so like I remember I've been to a con where there's like a medical equipment expo going

on or a beauty pageant going on or a kid's karate tournament and so here you are you know you dressed in your finest nerdy clothes carrying your bag full of toys oh yeah you're walking by like a family with their kid in a karate uniform and they're it's just so weird the best one for me was i went to a final fantasy 14 convention for my job and it was sharing space with a bridal convention so there are women walking around in these like extravagant gowns while there are cosplayers just surrounding them that's the dream

I'm sure that's exactly what they had envisioned and I think like whenever there's the Portland Retro Gaming Expo which I love and have not been to in like three years they usually share space with a dental convention in the same area so I just love these clashing of cultures and these men, these finely dressed men around all these nerds in like t-shirts and cargo shorts.

Oh, yeah. Now, another one of my favorites was going to the California Extreme Arcade Convention in San Jose. And it was sharing the space at a hotel convention center with what seemed to be just like a very big and expensive wedding. And so it was all these people and they're like you know finest uh outfits for this wedding having to walk around just again guys in their cargo shirts wearing cargo shorts wearing a like a cubert t-shirt drinking a very expensive hotel beer oh uh real quick segue i just got back from the

california universal studios yes and because my wife has never been i've been to the florida one Real quick segue, I just got back from the California Universal Studios. Yes. Because my wife has never been. I've been to the Florida one, which I also didn't realize was way bigger. But the Moe's Tavern, she insisted we get two beers. She's like, you love the Simpsons. She's like, we have to get them. I was like, we really don't.

$45 for two of them. Woo. Yep, yep, yep. And you know what? She decided to get us the souvenir cups. And we're like're like oh that must be why it costs so much nope those are three dollars a piece the beer was what cost so much yeah I have to say that the Moe's disappointed me there

I want it to be adults only I want it to be like the Star Wars canteen I wish whenever they have to make that a Disneyland thing if they ever move it out of Universal you should make Moe's a appointment based exhibit you go to you sit down you can get actual beer out of glasses and the Moe there has to like

insult you and even can like pull out a fake shotgun and point it at you yeah because we did the cantina as well and it was totally different but also they didn't even have a flaming Moe that flaming yeah the Florida flaming Moe it's like it's not purple it's it

isn't on fire it's not alcoholic like there's i've seen so much in uh at universal it's never on the level of the quality of a disney thing but the simpsons one at least takes it like an extra level higher there's that's why i'm like oh you're so close like i saw you you went to the the crusty secret room in the hollywood one one. And that gabbo there is so great. I was like, why can't these gabbos? I want the dedication that's on this gabbo everywhere in the place. Yes. I also want them to just sell me the stuffed animals that they have at the games.

Yeah, yeah. Do I have to try to? I just gave up on one. I was like, I really want this Springfield Isotopes baseball, but just I've spent $10. Can you just give me it? But that's part of me where I do hope Disney gets it because they go like a thousand percent all in on everything where I'm like, if we get the Disney version of the Simpsons land, I think I'll get exactly what I want.

But also it'll probably just take forever. I say Bulldoze Autopia and then put in Simpsons World of disney i agree i agree nothing of value will be lost i would have said toontown but they barely already have plans for toontown uh to destroy it but yes so they have a cute little scene of a lost and found which is just naming dorky things uh then they have a uh portfolio review section very accurate even then to uh was that cons uh jolly jack tate a parody of jolly jack kirby one of jack kirby's if you were a if you were a kid growing up reading jack kirby you knew him as jolly jack kirby for me he was always jack the king kirby like that's what everybody called him then i think i only know of him as the king uh i went to cons when jack kirby was

alive sadly i never got to meet him i did get to meet jubilant john ramita though and he was he was very friendly he's well really steve ditko is the jack kirby of spider-man but john ramita is right after him and he's pretty much the second most important spider-man artist i'd say some some could argue todd mcfarland's the second most important but i i'd say john ramita yeah i think i'd agree with that the spider-man that's in the mcu right now his mask design is the john ramita spider-man face like that's that's it is he was very friendly that john ramita he was not he was not surly like jolly jack tate is here just shaking his head and be like i think his nickname is ironic and boy otto has a flair for

the artistic side doesn't he remember uh in old money when he had his design for what he wanted to turn the bus into yeah his amazing rat fink design and then uh they lost that he loves drawing like stoner art like all this all the art that stoners of the 70s love like otto was super into that they just they kind of dropped that when there's like ah he's he's just a guy who likes being high and uh 80s metal like that's what he likes uh but yeah his his uh design is very much based on frank frisetta and also that was the other reason i had out my simpsons comics here i was showing uh bob earlier but they they did a bus man uh mini comic within it uh in issue four you can actually see what a bus man mini comic within it in issue four.

You can actually see what a bus man comic in the universe would look like. If you pick up Simpsons Comics number four from 1994. Got to promote those new comics coming out. Actually, boy, I think that even the collections are out of print now. So you're going to have to get that on eBay, I think. Bart just flies into frame of comic book style as well which that feels like a real uh uh flourish by the animators not really like something the script said and bart flies into frame like he's batman we hear whooshing sounds a little noise like a swoosh

yes uh and yeah but uh auto they leave him behind because they're going to get to meet fallout boy buddy hodges which uh this also was the you know the thing back then of the low rentness of it like now you know well and by now i mean for the last 20 years it's the big deal of like here's like you know the most famous actor in the world they showed up to comic-con like i uh but back then it's like oh you only get to see uh say you know bob denver in his in his 50s talking wearing the gilligan costume or whatever and this line about him uh possibly being killed in vietnam is a reference to the urban legend about uh jerry mathers who played the beaver on leave it to beaver in which he disappeared from acting and people assume that he had a tragic life,

but he was in the Air Force Reserves. Oh, okay. They wouldn't send him to Vietnam because it would look bad if they killed the beaver, so he was only in the Reserves. I think what happened was, there's lots of apocryphal stories about why people believe this,

but he appeared at an awards ceremony in an Air Force getup with his shaved head, so people thought, oh, he must be in the service he should been out yeah and we didn't hear about him after so he's dead and i think when they would announce like the names of dead soldiers there was there was a jay mathers who was killed and people assumed oh that's jerry mathers and word spread there's lots of different origin stories for this myth but it was believed to the point that when he started showing up and things again in the late 80s and early 90s they would make the joke i know that on married with children when he appeared that was the first joke they made oh that's great yeah oh right i

forgot that yeah he's in the supermarket sweep how could you forget the trivia about leave it to beaver henry what's wrong with you see i have all this comic book trivia in my head it's shoved out the leave it to beaver stuff i don't have space for i yeah oh my comic book and wrestling trivia trivia there's no room for Leave it to Beaver. Which is really the important one. But yes, it is the first appearance of Fallout Boy. Jeff Martin mentioned in our interview that he thinks probably the biggest pop culture impact he's had in his life is coming up with the name of Fallout Boy, which he just tossed off of like, well, who's the Robin to Radioactive Man?

You know, nuclear Fallout. Fallout Boy there. Easy. I have the story behind that, too, if you just tossed off of like, well, who's the Robin to radioactive man? You know, nuclear fallout. Fallout Boy there. Easy. I have the story behind that, too, if you want to hear it. So Fallout Boy spells their name incorrectly. They spell fallout as two words when it's one. They had a list of potential names they wanted to name their band. And friends of theirs voted on Fallout Boy.

But at a show, Pete Wentz introduced the band to something else. They forget what it was, but it was a very long name. And someone in the audience said, fuck that, you're a fallout boy. And that's when it stuck. So this super, super Z-grade character on The Simpsons became one of the most popular bands of the 00s. Yes, it's crazy. Did they ever get in trouble for that or anything happen with it? You know, maybe that space protects them from it.

You're right. You know, growing up, you know, there was the band Green Jelly. Like they were called Green Jello and they had to stop calling themselves that. Like there's, there's been lots of bands were like, no, the Japanese band Puffy AmiYumi. They were called just Puffy in Japan, but they're like, no, there's already, you know, Puff Daddy or Puffy. I saw these names. They can't just be Puffy in america so they had to call themselves puffy emmy umi i don't how we use electricity can be smarter cleaner and greener at electric ireland we can help guide you there you see our new net zero hub has all you need to know about smart meter plans ev tariffs solar panels and much more making your clearer, your trips greener,

your home cozier, and your world brighter. Find our net zero hub at electricireland.ie. I don't know how Fall Out Boy keeps getting away with it. You know, I guess, you know, the Arizona isotopes, they did have to make some deal or handshake deal with Fox about that. So maybe the record executives were able to make some backroom deal. I bet it's the space. I bet that is the legally distinct way that it's different than this character.

That's it. Just one minor difference. Yeah, it's not fallout, boy. It's fallout, boy. And I was just old enough to be out of their demographic when they started hitting it big. So I have no knowledge of the band outside of the guys married to Avril Lavigne, or is that not a thing anymore? Boy, is he?

Is this a star snoop? Oh, it was Ashley Simpson. One of them was married to Ashley. Avril Lavigne was with the Sum 41 guy, right? Right, right, right. Or is? Let us know in the comments. Tell us about Fall Out Boy and how we're wrong we we know pro wrestling and comic books and and leave it to beaver we don't know these like we

don't know 20 year old pop music no no but yes they uh they watch some original fallout boy and uh as and he and out he comes for a q, these Laramie cigarettes give me the steady nerves I need to combat evil. Gee willikers, radioactive man. Wished I was old enough to smoke Laramie's. Sorry, fallout boy. Not until you're 60. Look out! Will radioactive man act in time to save the Earth?

Yay! Well, wasn't that great? You know, kids, I'm sure we'd all like to remember actor Dirk Richter for his portrayal of Radioactive Man and not the sordid details of his final year. So let's keep the questions tasteful, OK? Now, how about a big welcome for Buddy Fall Out Boy Hodges?

Hooray! Any questions? When Radioactive Man got injected with shrinking serum in issue 234, how come his costume shrinks, too? I am sure I don't know. But I did just finish playing Rum Tum Tugger in the Second National Touring Company of Cats. Anybody see it?

Oh, oh, oh, oh, over here. Oh, boy. Oh, oh, me, me, me, me. Yes, you, the masked boy. Do you think the ghost of Dirk Richter haunts the bordello where his bullet-riddled body was found found dirk richter was a beautiful man can't you little vultures leave him alone i think that's the two flavors of q a questions you get it's either yeah an innocuous one no actor would know the information to or an incredibly like hurtful or deeply personal question that's like hey rude one yeah

an incredibly rude one but that this presenter gives kids the ammo he does yeah it's true he you know what he should have just pretended like uh because it's magical serum that touched his suit too like yeah there you go i forgot that this is a parody of the superman 50s show later when they'd show radioactive man they would have like a batman 66 style parody but this is a parody of the superman 50s show later when they'd show radioactive man they would have like a batman 66 style parody but this is a parody of the george reeves show and the the idea of him dying in a very sordid way is also the george reeves story as well yes yeah though though also bob crane a little bit too i think is mixed in there which well watch the film autofocus to learn all about that that's a good movie but i also love his wink to the camera when he says not until you're 16 like that's and also just the great gag that like this should not

be shown to impressionable children in the 90s like this commercial for cigarettes but nobody cares and fallout boy does not say jiminy jillikers he says g willikers so i wish they had figured that out that early if only but and says g willikers so i wish they'd figure that out that early if only but and that g willikers second twister mouth of the episode and uh i was gonna say is it seems like uh there's a few times in this episode where it seems like they revisit it and redo the jokes later on uh like this q a section for the itchy and uh scratchy and poochy episode yes yeah you know i think they'd gone through even more q a's the producers at this time and could plumb the depths even more of awkward questions yeah i feel like

they had probably not done a comic convention at this point the guys but maybe by 97 or 96 they had done a comic-con or something yeah oh sure or or just assigning it like golden apple comics in la and got that kind of thing and i also i love what a great parody of a bad cliffhanger it is. Like, look out. The planet has exploded. Earth is blown up. It's not that he's going to save it in time. It's gone.

Like, it's exploded in half. Busy smoking cigarettes. Yeah. And, of course, back in 1991, not everybody knew about Rum Tum Tug the uh the curious cat of the cat show but of course now that the live action 2019 film was such a hit everybody knows him as the character played by jason derulo so yes it's the pain of being old but uh having lived through a decade of cat's jokes when cats came back and people were acting like it was a new idea i was thinking i guess i guess i just have been alive longer but i remember all of these jokes from the 90s.

Well, you know, the Cats live action movie is bad in ways the original Broadway Cats couldn't be bad because it's film. Technology made it worse. Yes. Like the end of the movie is someone talks, singing a song directly to camera and like for four minutes long it's the weirdest weirdest choice i've ever seen in a in a lot in a uh musical adaptation luckily i avoided this i did not watch this you know if you're looking for a fun uh night with a spouse watching a bad thing

you could you could do worse than watching uh the cats okay well maybe we'll put it on the list uh but i also just love the response of i'm sure i don't know like that that is so perfect and so then we head over to the very realistic comic display case and boy oh boy is this a first one of the most famous characters of simpsons he and he's grown out of like just everybody says they know who this is based on it's like no he's based on just the idea of a comic book guy and here i'll play the clip first of his very first appearance hey radioactive man number 72 it's imaginary tale where radioactive man marries larva girl wow number nine That's before Fall Out Boy became his ward.

Tell you what, I'll show you something very special if you promise to put your grubby little hands behind your back and keep them there. Behold! Wow, Radioactive Man number one. And another. I bet it's worth a million bucks. It is, my lad. But I'll let you have it for a hundred because you remind me of me. Oh, my God is 30.

Then you cannot have it. But I must. Until this moment, I never knew why God put me on this earth. But now I know to buy that comic book. Your emotion is out of place here, son. So, yeah, comic book guy, the debut of comic book guy. And, yes, he's an amalgam of every comic book store owner from this era. George Myers cited one from Los Angeles, this comic book shop called Amok, A-M-O-K. And George Myers says, quote, he often sat on his high stool, kind of lording over the

store with that super silliest attitude and eating behind the counter a big styrofoam container full of fried clams with a lot of tartar sauce. Fried clams. that's so specifically like i know he became like a burrito guy over time and here he seems to be eating nachos fried clams is such a weird specific to eat of all things oh that's crazy i also i like that he's um being so condescending about a hundred dollar comic book. Yes. Which now is like not that expensive for something that's rare. No, no. I love it's perfect.

Comic book guy is exactly himself. Like comic book guy would grow to be a parody of the online complainers about the Simpsons. But even in his first appearance, he's just like he's both trying to show off to the kids but also telling him like keep your stupid mitts behind you like screw like don't you touch this like your greasy little paws off and like he's he's already mad at them but also trying to sell them stuff so i think he's freaking kids yeah his voice isn't quite where it needs to be but it will be there uh when he becomes a more regular character and yes uh he got his first episode all about him in season 12 with the worst episode ever we would find out his

name in season 16's uh homer and ned's hail mary pass he is jeff albertson and uh he has now become a wife and i'm sorry he has now he now has a wife he has not become a wife and in a recent episode in season 32 the show explored his reluctance to become a father. So I can respect him because like me, he married a Japanese manga artist. So we have a lot in common in there. And I do enjoy a burrito from time to time. But that's where it ends. Yeah, he's grown quite a lot over the years, old comic book guy. But here in his first appearance, it's just such a perfect, like everybody knew a comic book guy like this in the 90s uh you know now i

think the uh maybe because of the popularity of this type of guy i think comic book store owners aren't this type of guy as much anymore at least in in my experience dan how's and i know you've gone all around to comic shops like there's there's not as many comic book guy types running comic shops these days no i think everybody as many comic book guy types running comic shops these days no i think everybody realizes that they want to make money while running a comic book store so they're actually helpful and polite yeah they're much more polite they're also like excited to do stuff and like the comic book guy character especially when everybody you know people like say when famous pro wrestlers come to your shop uh film vlogs, you can't be like, get out of here or whatever.

No, but I've heard some places are still like that. You know of some where Ethan Page tried going to that we're not really too excited about him wanting to film. Oh, that's too bad. I'm sure guys still exist here and there. We had one locally to me he was still helpful and nice but he definitely had a bit of the character portions just like the attitude and the the demeanor i well i also think i've seen more comic shops uh well maybe it's just where we live in berkeley california but the local comic shop here like it used to be owned by a comic book guy

type but then like he new management came in and that management like even hired like a lot of women and not any non-binary folks who it was a much more diverse store and also was a much more welcoming store as well to you know that comic book guy is very unwelcoming to uh even his regular customers let alone uh outsiders i think like before online distribution digital comics uh your specialty stores were your go-to places they were the only venue for these products so you would have to interface with these rude jerks otherwise you could not buy the products so they were literal gatekeepers exactly yeah it's it's a lot like the uh in the film high fidelity for record shop owners because they're like we if you're coming

here you're an addict and i can treat you however you want i want because you've got no other choice like i am i'm your i'm your main supplier fortunately i think most comic shops do not operate like that anymore maybe how ubiquitous comic book guy is as a negative stereotype. Maybe it pushed some people to be like, well, I don't want to be like that when I own my own comic shop. Yeah, I mean, hopefully, because it's a good way to just ruin everything for like, especially like kids. Yeah. Coming in and trying to find something new to gravitate towards. And then you have someone like that.

Who just like, who judge your purchases and say like that comic sucks that sucks like yeah it's like well you ordered it it's your store yeah but let's talk about this price a hundred bucks for a radioactive man number one certainly seems low but it's a lot it is uh i'm sure they wrote it to be an attainable price for bart simpson to own oh of course uh but i will say it's not as ridiculous as you might think for 1990. So I actually pulled up the Overstreet Comic Price Guide from the 1989 to 1990 edition. And so if you wanted a good quality of Fantastic Four, which means a Fantastic Four number one, which means a little beat up you know

some creases all that but not like you know half the comic is torn apart it's not like that bad but a good quality one of that in that price guide they say it's 160 dollars wow like if you if you want a 1963s incredible hulk number one that it valued it at 100 so this obviously is a much better condition copy which would not be that would have gone for like three thousand dollars a night according to the over street price guide at the time but a hundred is not a crazy amount for then but then once the buyer's market really increased like after 92 by 93 i would think even those good quality ones are like two 000 bucks yeah so they weren't too far off this was just me nowadays going well you know what amazing fantasy

is worth like 500 000 or something yeah if the highest uh an amazing fantasy 15 has ever gone for was eight million dollars and that's because i'm even way off well this was like perfect mint like that was like as good no better copy exists or ever will exist so that is like uh it's pretty much just name your price like certainly in five years or whatever when whoever bought that will maybe sell it to somebody else i would bet it goes for like 16 million it's just whatever somebody is going to pay for it there's no real price for it you know yeah it's worth what someone's willing to pay these days if uh if you go to ebay and you want or uh a more official auctioneer site like if you want an amazing fantasy 15 that is in not very good condition you're still paying twenty thousand

dollars for it like like oh this is the ugliest amazing fantasy 15 out there twenty thousand bucks uh though i have my very valuable uh spider-man 33 on the wall over there that uh i think i think it was like 400 500 bucks uh my husband got it for me very nice very very nice very that's the most valuable old comic I have. Spider-Man 33, which is, of course, the famous scene of Spider-Man throwing the heavy stuff off of him. One of the most famous Spidey pages ever. Oh, yeah.

Is it like the girders over top? Yes. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. The cover says the final chapter is Bob who's- That's a lie. Yeah. But it's basically like the series finale of the Ditko Stan Lee run

like it was all he did like six more issues but it really is like the wrap-up of that story pretty much but uh but yes anyway like I love how comic book guy even turns him down with like your emotion is out of place here son so the kids get picked up I like uh that lisa is bragging about how many comics she got for a dollar uh though my mom actually so i didn't know what lois lane the comic series lois lane superman's girlfriend i didn't know that when this first aired because it was out of print then in the in the 50s to 70s that was the girl comic that dc sold because it was about you know superman stories but from Lois Lane's perspective, and she'd fight a witch or something.

But it was my mom's favorite comic growing up. And so she was insulted at the joke. Jokingly, she was offended that they made a gag that no one would pay any money for a bunch of Lois Lane comics. Now, of course, for me as a kid the comics that were the cheapest were like the quarter bin of spider-man that was like marvel team up or marvel two and ones like those are the ones that create the store owners like i just had a quarter kid you can have it for me any any spider-man comic was worth its weight and go like

wow more spider-man comics yeah at least i got 47 comics for a dollar pretty good deal yeah yeah i remember the quarter bin being like my go-to uh that's probably where i found all the morbius comics originally older views and then i was probably like oh well i'm caught up on these now i need to get you know the new ones that's true you know morbius not that hot in the 90s you could get those for a song then yeah yeah yeah you can go back and buy them now which i have well you know what those are going to be worth even more soon once that once that jared leto movie comes out of him is morbius it's oh yeah the confusing timeline of that yeah i prefer lesbius and uh then homer then launches into a long rift about how horny he is for Wonder Woman, which I do like that. Marsh has to stop him for getting too horny in front of the family.

It's a very strange scene. So, did you kids have fun? Yeah, Mom. Guess what? For a dollar, a man sold me 35 Caspers and a dozen Lois Lane. I never knew what Superman saw in her. Give me Wonder Woman. And that golden lariatiat she can tie me up

anytime oh oh oh we're just kidding mark uh though that's like i that had to be uh just a conversation in the writer's room of like why why would you go with lois lane over wonder woman me how like though really the this is homer just having an online shipping argument right here, which, you know, now the more popular ship, I think it's because of the Batman animated series or really the Justice League follow-up. It's Wonder Woman and Batman is the combo I hear much more about than Wonder Woman and Superman.

People want to see that. Yeah, because they allude to it a ton in the cartoon. Oh, yeah yeah yeah and i think in the comics they just full-on do it at some point well now so many comics have come out they've all like all the characters have dated at one point or another like that superman and wonder woman dated for a time as well in the in the new in the last oh the new 52 i think it was yes yeah yeah but also it's something i love on twitter i follow uh susan eisenberg the uh the voice actress for wonder woman and like she is a fan of batman wonder woman combos and she's always joking about how like her and kevin conroy flirt of like oh boy look our characters are together it's a cute little actor joke they have then homer offers to take everybody

out to crusty burger that's when we get our third twister of the episode of bart saying a fine restaurant like crusty burger and apparently al jean partially he's inspired by this comic thing because as a kid he asked his dad to buy him a ten dollar comic book his dad said that was too much money for a comic book and that comic book would go on to be worth thousands of dollars later which i've said it before al jean i think he's a real comic collector and i bet he i bet he is one of those guys who owns a good copy of amazing fantasy 15 i feel pretty sure he was denied that comic but he's had a very good job for the last 25 years i think so yeah in the end he won out what comic was he denied i wish he had said it but he didn't say i based on his um other interviews i've seen with him i would bet it's a

60s issue of amazing or of fantastic four those are those are my two guesses based on again if you if you want to hear aljean geek out get up the season 14 or 15 dvds the one with stan lee in the episode where they have stan lee on the commentary al gene is asking him every nerdy question you could possibly ask stan lee and it's wonderful but yes bart isn't allowed to do it homer even tells him ts which like wow i was shocked they got away with that and that that ts don't mean talking simpsons. No, no, but it should. Then on the commentary, they goof on Jeff Martin again because all of his scripts usually had these repetition gags of like, please, dad, please, dad, please, dad. And they go like, oh, you did that for filler.

You knew that filled up your page account. I also like that he's asking for the $100, and he absolutely refuses this. But later on on he has no problem giving him money for a bum yep yeah this this is uh when he when bart needs a nine hundred dollars to buy that scratchy cell that's uh homer's like yeah here you go but very very different time yeah it's repetitive but i direction wise i like the slight push on every please dad to get the camera goes closer and closer with every please dad. And I like that Homer is getting like he's gone through this enough that he can point out, you know, the how a Simpsons script work where he's like, look, I know this always happens where I eventually do it, but we both know I'm not giving you $100.

So are you going to stop? You're going to stop? You're going to stop? I need $100 for a comic book. $100 for a comic book? Who drew it? Michael Melangelo? Oh, please, dad? I need $100 for a comic book. $100 for a comic book? Who drew it? Michael Malangelo? Oh, please, Dad.

I want this more than anything in the world. Well, T.S. Please, Dad. No. Please, Dad. No. Please, Dad. No.

Please, Dad. No. Please, Dad. No. Please, Dad. No. Please, Dad. No.

Please, Dad. No. Please, Dad. No. Please, Dad. No. Please, Dad. No!

Now, look, son. We all know that usually when you bug me like this, I give in. So I'm not mad at you for trying. So you've been paying attention. But we all so i'm not mad at you for trying so you've been paying attention but we all know i'm not gonna give you a hundred dollars now are you gonna stop bugging me are you no are you no are you no are you no no no no no no no okay i win in your face yeah how do you like some apples don't quote homer great animation on his very long like just like in your face boom and like even like he gives part like a very like bullying like sock to the

shoulder like yeah yeah stop floating homer yeah and then and then a fourth twister man uh mouth on bart's okay when he says okay like That's four in the first act, right? Total. So many twisters. I'm going to have to go rewatch and pay attention to these. I watched it twice in the past two days. Now when you go back, I think by season six is the final twister I think they got on the show. And it's shocking to see.

They're still doing this. Wow. So keep an eye out for them if you go back and we've covered it now already again in season two but the bark it hits by a car uh burns does a twister mouth yeah it's like you really need the perfect uh cylinder of bart's head to do it though it just looks weird on everyone else that's true no no i just now i have to keep an eye on those now that i know that they're a thing and uh then marge shares a story about with bart about her own childhood which i love that she does not use the term easy bake oven she says a child-sized light bulb uh child-sized electric

light bulb oven that's what she calls it like marge has a lot of funny turns of phrase here to not say a copywritten term it's just like novelty flying disc yeah it's my novelty flying disc and i love cute little marge in this bat in her like design here they didn't stick with that when they do little marge later they'd give her tall hair but i kind of like this like uh other design for her this this mislead with patty and selma gets me every time because when i hear them talk i think why don't they have their scratchy voices well that's the joke i always forget the same thing it's so their their transformation into their deep voices is so great and i always feel so bad for marge that she turned

herself into like this horrible servant for her awful sisters just to get an easy bake oven and in the end she makes them the treats i know and and of course the background joke is that these two girls are big frankie avalon fans to set them in time as this is coming right after we just watched the season 33 premiere where the timeline just moves ahead and then marge was in high school in uh in 1999 yes and so uh this very very different timeline from being having frankie avalon posters growing up but that's just how decades move forward it's it'd be funnier now if they wrote a scene where marge is like oh yes when i was a little girl in 1954 i don't know if she was ever that old no no no yeah i haven't seen i don't think i've seen any of the like

pushed up future episodes yet. They've happened enough where I just accept it. I'm like, fine, Marge is my age. Yeah, I mean, that 90s show was them saying we have to do something about this. It's true. Like I get it, but also it falls under the category of comics as well, where I'm like, at what point are you going to go back to Batman's origin where he has an iPhone or something? Exactly. to batman's origin where he has an iphone or something exactly yeah you know i've there's i've read some funny spider-man comics where they do a flashback to something that happened in you know amazing fantasy 15 and when they show the characters that were on the panel saying their

same lines they're still dressed like they're from 1962 but then in the new drawing they draw that slightly off panel what you're not seeing is someone holding an iphone and saying like oh hey it's spider-man look at that and yes they they make up frankie avalon films of beach blanket to beethoven and private surfboard and then patty is singing a certain song which i i have the real version of it oh okay there you go that's that's enough of that that's who is the artist behind venus yeah it's it's it's frankie avalon oh that's Okay. So she's even singing a Frankie Avalon song. I have to correct something I got wrong on the last time we covered this episode, in that now I know what dress shields are.

They basically absorb sweat in your armpits, so your dresses don't get pit stains in them. So she's cleaning the gross, sweaty dress shields of Patty and Selma. Hand-washed and drip-dried. Yeah, and again, I always feel so bad that Marge, it shows you, I guess, what a doormat Marge has always been. That like after doing all that, she can finally buy the oven and gives the cookies to her sisters. Or, you know, doormats a little mean. Maybe she's just an incredibly nice person, that Marge.

She's just extra nice. Yeah. courage he's just extra nice yeah and so i love that bart's reaction to hearing that story is marge is offering to get a part-time job to give part a hundred dollars yes she means you stupid and uh and that leads to another uh very current reference of 1991 i want to know what modern day people think of this when they see it having not been there. The big day finally came, and because I'd worked for it, all those light bulb warm treats always tasted extra good. So maybe a part-time

job is the answer. Oh, Mom, I couldn't ask you to do that. You're already taking care of Maggie, and Lisa is such a handful. She means you should get a job, stupid. Me? Get a job? Were they serious? I didn't realize it at the time,

but a little piece of my childhood had slipped away. Forever. Bart, what are you staring at? Uh, nothing. He didn't say it and neither did I, but at that moment, my dad and I were closer than we ever... Bart! Stop it!

Sorry. Do everything... And yes yes that's our classic reference to the wonder years which i was a viewer of at the time so when i watched this episode my first thought was can they do this and yeah very funny joke about a very popular show at the time uh emmy award winning the wonder years started in 1988 i believe uh when this episode was written it was ending its third season and averaging about 19 million viewers every episode and about to enter its fourth season so obviously david m stern is a writer on the show daniel stern is a wet bandit and the narrator of the wonder years so it was easy to get him and apparently david m stern

helped write some of the dialogue because there's a certain way you write the narration in the wonder years it feels perfect for it yeah yeah it's for me as a little kid too because i watched so many simpsons like say in this episode well the reference gone with the wind flies over my head you know just boom but whenever i could recognize something i felt like i was on the level of my parents who laughed knowingly at hitchcock references or whatever that i didn't get and here i was like i get this too mom and dad i get this like surprisingly like i was a huge fan of this show and i don't know why uh the wonder years because i was pretty young i think as it was you know airing i think i was probably watching reruns but yeah i never like i haven't

gone back and watched it as an adult but i remember getting this because i'd watched the show like whenever i first saw this because i'd watched the show like whenever i first saw this episode which obviously wasn't 1991 i don't think but yeah watching through it she's like oh i remember being a huge fan of this show and i literally cannot remember like what got me into it i don't know if it's this episode that got me into what the wonder years was but i'm assuming not because i knew what this reference was i i think my mom was able to get me to start watching the show because it was like it's the kid from princess bride like i was uh i watched princess bride eight million times

as a little kid and so i think just seeing uh the same actor in it got me to watch it for me it was like i was only i don't know uh six or seven when it started and time moves so slow when you're only around for that long and to even imagine things existed before me is a fascinating concept which is why i think i started watching it and uh i like this parody because it makes you think of the reality of how they film those live action scenes in which the actors have to spend a lot of time not saying anything because the narration will come in after the fact so there's a lot of just like quietly eating dinner or like kind of not like zach morris freezing in the middle of the scenes but just like a lot of silence in scenes because daniel stern will come in later and do the narration but because it's

happening in the real world homer is just like what are you looking at well why are you just like what's going on i love that yes and uh i want to talk about the wonder years it's coming back or it has come back oh in that uh so shockingly the original series only took place 20 years before it started airing so it took place in the late 60s to the early 70s this new series which started in 2021 they realized 20 years ago that is a shockingly short amount of time and as we begin to know everything about the world then we have like constant access to all sources of information time compresses so much sure so the new version of the wonder years takes place a little over 30 years ago in the late 80s

oh yeah they're not going back to the mystical year of 2000 to tell these stories weird to have a show set in 2000 now i don't know everything is too up to date at that point yeah yeah i well that's like i was trying to think of what the wonder years is now other than just a remake of the wonder years i was i was thinking like well i guess like stranger things is kind of the one years now but it's also like it's a horror show but it the all the specifics are are very much like no this season is 84 as as opposed to like you know i guess like in the wonder years oh nixon just got elected like that's the happened in this year of the Wonder Years. But also, too, in both cases, they're fighting time of having child actors growing up as they go.

I'm looking forward to that next season of Stranger Things just because I'm like, boy, how old are these kids going to look now? These kids are like they're growing up. They're going to be giants. Turning into Ghostbusters. Yes. Yeah. The wolf kid is now he's been wolf hearts thank you i didn't watch the show i just know he's got a crazy name like ansel elgort i only saw the uh

the first season of the show i started watching the second season and i did not finish it and i did not check out season three i was told uh you know i didn't give it a shot and then uh my husband was like no no no look we'll just we'll watch a season two everybody lots of people bounce off it he's like just watch this explainer of like here's what happened in season two okay now you can watch the much better third season and just go right into it ah so it's one of those scenarios yeah i you know it was it worked out for me i'll just say i i did the season three I was like, oh, that's really good. I like this third season.

So we come back from the break, and Bart is hunting for money. He first just empties a, like, four-liter bottle of cola, it looks like, which to me, I love the hugeness of that design. It's practically empty. And I also, you know, it's a little, this small apu scene here i feel like the joke martin is going with here is that it's against like the you know stereotype of the immigrant 7-eleven shop owner where he is like using very big words of like oh would you like to defray this cost with it uh like that it's it's a funny little bit and also that apu likes that bart is running a

trade he's like yeah because apu is a very hard-working guy he's very industrious yeah i always loved as a little kid the layout of bark going like ching ching ching and just like smashing the thing of coins as he says it the third time the souvenir set from bolivia from patty and salma and and when he takes it to the bank teller, there's still loose glass among the coins. I love that, too. You know what? This is not true, and I'm angry about it because from Japan, I have a loose assortment of coins left that I just want to get rid of. And they won't exchange your money unless you have a certain value.

Yeah, I have that, too. So I just have a stack of coins from Japan and Canada, too. I don't know what to do with these i have a bag of coins from canada but that's fine because i'm here now but you can do i can't do anything with this canadian laundry yeah you know i've uh after the first two times that happened to me in japan the next times i was there i was like well the last day i have to buy i just have to go to a convenience store, like buy a chocolate bar or whatever, and just pay only in like, you know, one yen coins. Though then I found out, I bet it doesn't work anymore. But the last time I came back, my coin operated laundry machine in my apartment complex,

it thought 10 yen coins were quarters. And so I was able to dump them in there. So I don't know, maybe, maybe give a shot to those 10 yen coins in your own laundry machine. I'm afraid, I mean, they're not in good shape. I feel like I will destroy them in my apartment complex. That's part of the risk. That's true. But yeah, Bart gets three lousy cents for it.

And so this is basically just like a series of sketches of how do little kids earn money and then comes the lemonade stand which i love that not only is bart knows that it's like hacky and dumb for a little kid to do a lemonade stand in 1991 like nobody actually is gonna stop and buy lemonade but i also love that lisa kind of like set designs him to look even more sad. I love that. This is so humiliating. I feel like such a geek. How's it going, Bart?

Terrible. Cars slow down to laugh at me, but no one's buying. Maybe you need to play on their sympathies more. Let's see. Ha ha, now you look pathetic. Ha ha, now you look pathetic. Ha ha. So we had a ha ha before in War of the Simpsons, but I think this is really the first true ha ha for Nelson.

I also think so, yes. Because I believe, we have not recorded it yet. You've heard it already, but I believe in War of the Simpsons, it's like ha ha ha. There's like three ha's, but the first ha ha is there. And when they heard Nancy say ha ha, they're like, that's funny. And so the very next episode, they're like, all right, let's just have spontaneously Nelson, who's not in the scene, ride by on a bike and point and laugh at Bart.

And that is, I also agree, it is the first true ha ha as as we know it so uh this this episode is full of firsts here yeah the three ha ha's don't count yeah yeah and he's just laughing at like grandpa's pants falling down and he's and also he's naturally there in the scene like it happens because abe says like you want me to take off my belt he's like sure like well all right this is the first time nelson is summoned because something embarrassing has happened exactly and i love the design of pathetic bart too like with his backwards hat and the misspelled lemonade sign uh and then my mother had to explain to me as a little kid why a kid

couldn't just sell his dad's beer like that but that's uh and it's a great bit like not only is bart serving it to like teens like jimbo is there drinking the beer but then also bart bribes police officers to keep doing it which is just so great and they later litter as they walk away that's also good just throw the cuffs on a crime yes uh just crime everywhere and then when homer pulls up i love his just like my all the posing on it like my beer my beer my beautiful beer the bart somehow just by serving beer all of not just barney but all of the bar flies at mars most bar there barney is so hard up he can't afford nickel beer he's asking to buy it on credit and bart sounds like he's already been burned by him before he's like get out of here uh and so then bart is getting in trouble and this is when

we first hear about another of our original characters this episode mrs glick and uh i will say first off the establishing shot of jake's unisex hair pals i think is a very late edition it's the exact same shot using Simpson and Delilah. And also, like, this is more Marge and Glick, I don't think, would be at Jake's unisex hair pals. I think they'd be at, like, well, what would become Harry Shearer's in the show. Like, the more beauty salon style. Jake's is more of, like, a old school men's barbershop. Yeah, it's a barbershop.

Yeah. But this is the first appearance of mrs glick voiced for the only time by chloris leachman r.i.p she passed away in 2021 at the the great age of 94 like quite a life uh like i mean just a television legend won multiple emmys under jim brooks working on the mary tyler moore show uh so that's how she was another of like those, oh, Jim's Brooks just calls his good friend and says, do the Simpsons. And she had a two season spinoff of her character Phyllis from that show.

Yeah. And some Mrs. Glick trivia for you. So she would not appear again until season four is whacking day. But every time after this, she's voiced by Tress McNeil. She was killed and seen in heaven in season 23's

replaceable you but she has appeared after that so killing mrs glick was just a joke she came back more i didn't know that man hans bullman yeah exactly yes but yeah uh played by tress after this and just uh some fun lines here and there it's a pineapple plenty ripe too yes yeah things like that like when she's trying to sell the uh the candy dish 40 yeah yeah just candy that's good uh yeah she's she's great i love her old lady stuff and and and i mean chloris leachman like her old lady voice she was she just became that in person all the time but you go back to the 70s she played mean old ladies like in as frau brooker in in mel brooks's young frankenstein she's so good as a mean old lady it makes me kind of sad that this vintage of old lady is gone now yeah because i remember uh being

in like the weird apartments of these old people like friends of my grandma or even my great grandma who was born in like the early 20th century you just don't get these old ladies anymore now our parents are the old ladies yeah it's not fun uh and one other bit about chloris leachman that uh sent me down a real rabbit hole on imdb so i saw that chloris leachman she appeared in gun smoke and i was like wow the gun smoke which to simpsons fans they only know gun smoke as the show that had the most TV show episodes ever until Simpsons. How we use electricity can be smarter, cleaner and greener. At Electric Ireland, we can help guide you there.

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tell me actually tom scarrett was on the simpsons one time or whatever but the other three are ed asner leonard nimoy and jody foster okay those are the other the four actors who have been on simpsons and gun smoke and only jody foster still lives of the actors who appeared and that's because she was on gun smoke when she was six. Like that's how long Jodie Foster has been in stuff. If you've seen Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, the little girl actor on the Western in the movie is entirely inspired by Jodie Foster acting on Gunsmoke early in her career.

Yes. But yes, I also like the glick when she's trying to name what comic a little kid would read today nazi smasher is the name of the one which that's great like because actually she could say like oh are they still reading superman comics because those would have been around in her youth but that she names one that would not exist anymore because it was the she's thinking of a 40s comic but yes this uh this entire bit of working for mrs glick plumbed entirely from jeff martin's childhood uh i won't say the name i feel like it maybe it counts as doxing but in our interview with jeff martin he names the name of the woman that he worked for

well at best now you can just vandalize her grave yes yeah she's she's long dead but i guess you could search for this grave in the Houston area, perhaps. But yeah, is him growing up in the 70s. He was paid 50 cents for pulling weeds, though, not for like Bart does this job for a week. Like this is a week of work. He does. This is awful. Like, yeah, no, he he must have got iodine as a kid. Oh, yes.

Yeah. So, yes. Here's here's our first scene of Mrs. Glick, actually. The poor boy is so desperate. He wants to earn money to buy a comic book. A comic book. Oh, my. Boys never change.

Which one is it? Nazi Smasher? I don't think so. Send him over to my house. I got a few chores he could do. He knows how to mix whitewash, don't he? This is good. You must be Bert Simpson.

Well, you look like you got a strong young back. Would you like something to eat? I got dried apricots, almond paste, sauerkraut candy. No, thanks. Sauerkraut. almond paste sauerkraut candy no thanks sauerkraut or the way she like is sauerkraut candy huh like uh love that horrible horrible old people food yes yeah like oh ribbon candy is like i i think it is just like you know sticky sugar which how bad can that be like i'm sure it's a like but that it all like glues together that's perfect of her bowl very accurate yes i think the one old lady candy they are missing are those orange slices like those candy orange wedges the little gooey ones yeah

yeah like those worthers and then those little strawberry candies yeah that's i uh worthers i loved it in our youths werther's proudly was like yeah we're the grandpa candy your grandpa gave it buy some for yourself my remember grandpa my grandma bought into the marketing i think like the bottom layer of her purse was just pure werther's which meant i always had access to them with the loudest those are the best old people candy they were oh yeah yeah i love the you know and they're they can't like for old people if they still have teeth those worthers are going to rip them out they're better for kids with the nice strong teeth you know they didn't even do like uh what the family guy would later start doing a ton of but this just

cutaway gag like i i don't know if this is their first it feels like one of the first i of them just going like oh this is that guy and then it just flashes to his his explosion in world war one uh which would make click even here like 97 or something in 1991 but bart has promised some barley pop uh all these old-timey jokes it's like the other side of the coin of burns and grandpa this is the old lady versions of the old man jokes that they do. And as a little kid, seeing how Bart looks with all his bloody scrapes on him, they made me very uncomfortable as a little kid. I was like, ah! I just looked it up.

The last World War I veteran died in 2009. Wow, man, that guy lived a long time. At age 111. Whoa, wow. And his name was Harry Patch. Harry Patch. That's a real name oh that's perfect you know what he outlived the legacy of his joke name so yes bart does all of his jobs and then we get a

the second appearance in the series of search for the sun the uh recurring i wish that when mo i said it before but when mo got his facelift and worked for a soap opera i wish it was search for the sun i'm so sad they made up it never ends it's also a good name oh sure it's great but i would have preferred they kept to the uh the reality of like well what was the one we used before let's go search for the sun but she's watching her stories and that's when bart comes in she's gonna put iodine in him and get on him again i did not know what this was i i guess as a little kid if i had a scrape or a bruise i didn't know what my mom put on it i was just like it's just the owie medication it was usually but peroxide which even if you're in pain yeah even if you're

in pain it's just fun to watch the bubble sizzle sure yeah also before uh what did she call it she says it like authentically arousing or something like that as her line i can't remember exactly what it was oh uh genuinely arousing filthy but genuinely arousing uh i like that she can say that to herself like you know now that i'm alone i can admit it this is genuinely arousing i like this like well yeah that when glick puts her iodine on him and says they never approved on iodine that is a joke because apparently it started in the 50s that like iodine got improved and wasn't as painful as it was so that implies like glick's bottle of iodine is the oldest bottle

in the world and i would think too iodine probably goes out of date and is spoiled in some respect but bart's screaming in pain it's pretty horrifying actually he goes through so much uh i love him coming into the room with marge later and saying like did you make any money no but at least not yet but at least i'm in a lot of pain and and there's some nice little bits too like marge i really like when they put in little business of like when marge is preparing dinner she puts her hand over the steaming pot for just a second to like feel how hot it is. Like that's, you know, a little detail that doesn't need to be put in, but feels, you know, more realistic. I like that. And we also get to hear about Beulah, which is some old lady thing thing nobody's ever heard of for 50 years no i just love her like no and uh but yes dying her

wedding dress black for wearing it morning it's uh you know that's a real that's a real goth move on old mrs glick it's a money saver too yeah it's a nice another dark uh dark joke yes she's like oh well of course i'll never need to wear my wedding dress again i'm going to so many funerals and then we head over to the real the first appearance of androids dungeon which yes i think that's a good name they seem to think it's like mike reese seems to think it's not as funny as it could be but it's always they've never changed it it's always android stunt i i kept forgetting that it's always been part of the sign but it's the androids dungeon and baseball card shop because a lot of these places didn't just sell comics. The one that I went to sold comics and lottery tickets because they wanted to diversify.

So I don't know if that was just written in because Milhouse had to come in to buy his baseball card. But a lot of these would diversify like you'd have sports memorabilia and comics as well. Yeah, I feel like I remember seeing sports memorabilia and comics as well yeah i feel like i remember seeing a lot of comics and sports cards yeah actually i think the one i went to was called rainbow comics and cards yeah well now if you go to a comic shop and it's not like at least half like toys then you're uh i would do a double take i'm like wait uh what or just or collectibles or um you know busts or statues yes mostly i think everyone at least falls back on the funko's oh sure well i mean you know a we've we've goofed on funko's from time to time

on this podcast but you can't deny that they are keeping a lot of places afloat with their sales like people people love them one train stop away from us there is a mostly abandoned shopping district full of big box stores that have long since been vacated. But there is one freestanding Barnes & Noble. I'm tempted to go in to see what percentage of the store is Funko. I would bet it's all the first floor now. It's got to be a good chunk. You couldn't buy a copy of Tale of Two Cities if you walked in there, but you'd have your choice of Funko.

The books are somewhere in the back but yeah android's dungeon you know you were talking about it uh before dan how's in the that universal i actually think it's a really great front of android's dungeon that they have in there but it should be a store like it absolutely be a store especially now i just don't get it like i mean yes the the obviously the quickie mark should be a shopping place too and you can buy stuff there but there are so many nerdy items of simpsons memorabilia they can sell why wouldn't you have the an android dungeon you can go into and then on top of that you know that then you can have like a person who's like both works the place and is

kind of a performer like they don't have to like fully be dressed as comic book guy but they can at least like have a comic book guy uh style to them as they sell you stuff kind of rudely like they could sell uh simpsons comics or they could have when they were still in publication if disney does take over and make their own land then they can just sell Marvel comics at the Androids Dungeon. Exactly. Yeah. It's just such a missed opportunity that that Androids Dungeon is just like a front. And it's all accurate and it has cool stuff in the displays.

And I like that in the area you can eat right next to it. There's a big billboard of all the Simpsons family in their character, like in their superhero characters. They got the radioactive man on the side of the building it's it's perfect in that detail but i i just can't believe they didn't make it indoors for it it's it's nuts but it's uh maybe someday when disney gets it back they can take it to the next level with that like same with like oh the aztec theater you can go inside and watch the simpsons on tv yeah that'd be great yeah yeah because disney has the mickey mouse theater exactly if they if they've already got the main street cinema then the aztec theater should just be like you if you want to get out of the

heat on in the simpsons zone just go in the aztec theater for like you know 10 minutes and and watch a classic simpson or just a loop of every movie parody they've done yeah yeah well that's the thing that that reddit man can make the tiny tv that this should not be a problem exactly yes yeah also that i love all the clips they show around there in the line for the ride but the tvs should look like the simpsons tvs like it's just it's it's like they're 80 of the way there i just want them to go the the other 20 you know like the harry potter world has the level of detail i want simpsons to have like it's so close to that but not enough yeah because even as i'm not like a huge harry potter

person but like i can appreciate the detail in all of that oh sure the the experience those kids have going into the like the wand shop and having the same experience harry potter has when buying a wand like i want that but for buying a flaming mo yeah me too yeah yeah exactly uh i do like the crusty burger though because it's mediocre yes yeah i do agree with that uh and uh so yes then bart is injured some more scratched up by a cat in silhouette he's given iodine which is a reference to the amputation scene from gone with the wind i tried to find that but that movie is like three hours long and i'm glad i don't have to watch it now yes yeah

it's the one classic movie that's referenced a lot that i still haven't seen but i know i don't really have to it's so long yeah i've never seen it i'm sure i've seen tons of references to it though yeah unlike all the other things in simpsons that they reference a million times, I did not want to watch Gone with the Wind to get them. And yes, then at the end of it all, Bart gets two quarters. I'll wager you've been looking forward to this. Oh, yes, ma'am. Here we are.

Two quarters. Two quarters. You deserve every penny. You know, I've told a lot to my girlfriends about you, and they have chores, too. Two quarters. But you didn't say thank you. Listen, lady, I can leave without screaming,

and I can leave without saying a bad word, but there is no way that I am saying thank you. You're welcome. All right, then, off you go to spend it on penny whistlers and moon you. You're welcome. All right, then. Off you go to spend it on penny whishers and moon pie. Moon pie is my butt. Somebody ought to moon pie her.

What's the problem, boy? I've been busting my hump all week for that withered old clam and all I got was 50 cents. Hey, when I was your age, 50 cents was a lot of money. Really? Nah.

Dad, I've done everything I could, and I've only got 35 bucks. Ugh, I am through with working. Working is for chumps. Son, I'm proud of you. I was twice your age before I figured that out. I hope that taught little me of, like, you know what? Working is for chumps. I shouldn't be doing it.

I like that someone really enjoys moon pies brought up multiple times throughout the years i don't think i've ever had one i know they're still uh they've never gone away i had one for the first time recently and they just taste like plastic oh is there a marshmallow inside of them is that what it's made out of or um it's sort of like a cream like it's definitely a vanilla cream in there yeah and and it's like well i mean if you're gonna eat you know this junk get a twinkie like you're better off with a twinkie i'd say i think moon pies really the last time they were in the news is when like they their twitter account was tweeting funny things of just like you know moon moon pies

hopes you have uh good luck in Health Awareness Month or whatever. Just like, thanks, Moon Pie. I just visited Moon Pie online. That's moonpie.com to confirm it is marshmallow inside, which is why. Keep me away from that. Disgusting. I don't like marshmallow. An anti-man.

What about imitation marshmallows? Maybe. If you smother it in enough hot cocoa, I can deal with it. I mean, yeah, to be told moon pies that's uh you know that's a good old-timey thing but moon pies have the simpsons would make you think that only old people would know about moon pies but they still exist well moonpie.com is telling me they're more popular than ever so why would the moon pie advisory board lie to me uh the moon pie tiktok has got to be pretty on fleek these days i bet i you know jeff martin

on the uh when we interviewed him he actually seemed to think that the act two of this he's like he kind of regretted it he's like i thought act two kind of drags a little bit with all the old lady stuff but you know obviously it's not as fun as jokes about comic books but i i think i think it's a fine act too but once it's over like part just goes like all right enough of this i'm done with this old lady crap i actually i liked i think that might be my favorite part is all the middle old lady stuff like with like lasting quotable jokes oh sure yeah all i i i love her like spend it on penny whistles and moon pies i've certainly felt that when I got my first paycheck,

and I was like, oh, boy, this is Penny Whistle and Moon Pie money here. Yeah. It's anime DVDs and comics. Dan Howzen, when you got your first indie booking and got paid at the pay window, were you thinking of Penny Whistles and Moon Pies? No, I was thinking of the, what does Marge say? She says, did you make any money?

He says, no, but I'm in a lot of pain. That's true. Very accurate to a wrestler starting out. And by the way, Mrs. Glick would return again in Wacking Day for her one line, snake did. Oh, yes. Snake did.

For Lisa asking, who killed all those rats in your basement? That's great, yeah. So she's gone for two years. Boy, poor Bart. I bet he had to deal with a lot of those rats in your basement. That's great. So she's gone for two years. Boy, poor Bart. I bet he had to deal with a lot of those rats in that basement in this time here. But yes, we head back to Android's dungeon. Bart is shocked, shocked to see that somebody seemingly has bought it.

But then he finds out that it's just Martin haggling over it. And also, though, dangerous to keep a valuable comic in the window display like that. It's going to get sun damage, something fierce, man. But yes, the comic book guy, his many reactions to being told like $40, like what? Like no way. And they're like freaking kids. And we learn about his master's degree. So like me, he has a useless master's degree.

So, yes, it all makes sense. Except his is in folklore and mythology mine's only in english literature which is one degree off i figure that folklore mythology is a cover for having lord of the rings or uh or or just regular comic book knowledge he's like yeah i know i know all about thor it's folklore that's what it's but meanwhile millhouse shows up and he doesn't even want the thing he wants to pay 35 bucks for a 30 bucks for a carl ustremsky tops trading card it is if you look up carl ustremsky tops 1973 that is the big sideburns card he's looking for on ebay if you want a quality copy of one not like you can get a beat up one for like two bucks on

ebay but if you want a good one that's like no creases that's 50 bucks so about what millis is paying i bet this episode drove up the price of the carly ostromsky baseball card and this is the first time i heard a comic book guy say i came out he comes out he said i've got your mutton chop yes yes it's the first so the first time i've heard that he you know that's this is first appearance comic book guy he's like folklore and mythology like he's there's a little more slurring of his words together yeah but uh but this is when the boys realize that together they can buy many comics you want can i have it for 35 no no freaking kids i do not need this. I've got a master's degree in folklore and mythology. Excuse me, do you have the Carl Ustremsky baseball card from 1973 when he had big sideburns?

So many $30, because if you ain't got it, I ain't getting off the stool. Okay. Wait a minute, Martin. If you, Milhouse, and I went in together, we could buy a copy of Radioactive Man number one right now. Wow! Here you go, mutton chop, Dad. I don't want it. Freaking kids.

Look, pal, we got a hundred bucks, and we'd like to buy Radioactive Man number one. So why don't you just waddle over there and get it? Yes, sir. Wow. Breathe it in boys oh this is the stuff dreams are made of it smells like my grandpa uh-oh looks like rain we better get this baby home uh-oh looks like you bought more than you bargained for.

What an act break. The most villainous he'd ever be. Yes. He's got a terrifying laugh. I love how Bart insults him, but he's so happy to get a hundred bucks. He's just like, yes, sir. He's like waddle over.

He's like, yes, sir. Give me that a hundred bucks right now. And yes, the storm is coming already as the boys are learning they bought more than their bargain for but but as the as the commentary reveals this third act was certainly not their original plan in the script that's true uh so as it aired and as it was rewritten the original sorry the third act turned into a parody of the treasure of the sierra madre the classic movie that we all know about not needing any freaking badges right that's what it's all about and people going crazy over uh gold uh so the original act three that jeff martin wrote was a parody of the uh stallone movie f-i-s-t fist which is why his original script was called b-a-r-t

bart uh it was a bit so the original movie was based on the Teamsters Union and Jimmy Hoffa, and his third act was BART, Martin, and Milhouse forming a union to control this comic and it breaking apart, as all unions do. Yes, the Simpsons definitely had the idea of, like, if you have a union, it is corrupt. It often goes corrupt very quickly. But that to even know that the original script title was B-A-R-T, like F-I-S-T, that is shocking that they hacked that much out of it.

They're like, no, like 20 pages gone. It seemed like he wasn't very happy with it, too. He doesn't regret losing that. But yeah, it was originally going to be a parody of unions uh but i don't know how that would have functioned and maybe we can get jeff martin to fax us his old scripts i don't know but uh that's just the the story of this episode but it's fine i think the sierra madre thing works if you're gonna parody a movie i think it's better that the boys all go crazy with this treasure they can't share and they all because i mean definitely as a little

kid i could not share anything with my little brother it's like oh well hey this you know this toy is both of yours no it is not it has to be one of ours or it will be destroyed like that uh it was selfish little kids don't understand that idea no not at all i think this one's more relatable that's probably why they went with this, because I think parents probably understood it better. And also like just little kids not sharing. And and also, though, they they mentioned that when they come back from the break, that it was very easy for them to write a parody of a comic book like that. They said it was like falling off a log like that easy. This parody here, they say, you know, Radioactive Man in general.

The name also brings to mind how every Marvel comic hero in the 60s. that easy. This parody here, they say, you know, Radioactive Man in general, the name, also brings to mind how every Marvel comic hero in the 60s... How we use electricity can be smarter, cleaner, and greener. At Electric Ireland, we can help guide you there. You see, our new Net Zero Hub

has all you need to know about smart meter plans, EV tariffs, solar panels, and much more. Making your usage clearer, your trips greener, your home cozier, and your world brighter. Find our Net Zero Hub at electricireland.ie. Got powers through a radioactive something. Cosmic rays hit the Fantastic Four. Spider-Man's bitten by a radioactive something cosmic rays hit the fantastic four spider-man's bitten by a radioactive spider and of course this one though is very much the original hulk origin from 1962 that jack kirby drew like especially he gets his leg caught like and then he's exploded by the bomb

that's almost like uh panel for panel the drawing on incredible hulk number one of his origin so uh yeah it's like i i just love how bart martin just didn't part say whoa i would have thought it would have killed him like well now you know better my pants caught on barbed wire good lord joke an a-bomb becoming radioactive from this day forward i shall call myself radioactive man so that's how it happened i would have thought being hit by an atomic bomb would have killed him. Now you know better. Turn the page, Bart.

And also when you were a little kid, like if you could find a reprint of Amazing Fantasy or something, those were always exciting to me because I was like, oh, you can never read these original. Now it's just online instantly. But as a little kid, finally being able to read Spider-Man's origin, you're like, whoa, so that's how it happened? So that's how the first, that's how the first that's how the fantastic four came to be yeah when i started reading comics they'd be like in the 20s or the 30s and that run an image and i could actually go to these conventions and find out like how spawn started or like how bones started and things like that yeah i think they've tried making it a little bit more easier to go because i i see a lot of these

now where they'll go back and like reprint like watchman number one for a dollar or like whatever issue it is of number one to get people into it for a dollar of like their top comics yeah i've seen too they will you know unlike kindle or comiXology they'll do a thing of like here five cents for the first issue of this if you're finally uh not just even like you know of a 60 year old comic also of recent runs that were like big hits they'll say like here the first issue of this uh you know big wonder woman run you can get it for a dollar now and then hopefully you'll want to read the rest of it and pay the full price yeah that's why uh manga has been kicking western comics ass for a while in terms of you know selling things in print because with uh western comics the question

where do i begin can go in many different directions with manga where do i begin you see the book with a one on it you start with the book with the one on it and then you buy the book with the two on it and so on until there's no more books it's not uh 19 different batman stories going on at once this is like well where do you want to start with batman and your friend who knows will just be like well this writer's run is good so you need to start with volume one of batman uh then colon blankety blank blank but i know it's it's not reader friendly but once you i i swear once you can deconstruct the code and know where to start there are there's good stuff to read there's really good comics out there but yes i i know i know the challenge is for sure

now i get the same way with like new series where i'm like or albums even where they're like hey this band's really good i'm like yeah but they have like 10 albums what am i gonna there's no shame in buying greatest hits no not at all that's now on spotify or whatever i'm using they usually will have a playlist of like this is this person i'm like all right well i'm just gonna listen to those you know uh it used to be like that with pro wrestling too uh in the pre-internet days if somebody was like oh you know i watched wrestling growing up but how do i get into like you know wcw now and you just have to have a friend who says well okay i'll just tell you who's champion or what stories are going on or whatever but but now you know a lot of the

promotions just even put up their own videos of like here's the explainer here's you know the the here's a preview of the storyline and they explain all that stuff no because each time you like you're gonna have a first-time viewer so i think that's smart yeah yeah i think like like for example dan hausen himself has uh has an roh introductory video that I think is very helpful. Yeah, which I think was really smart for them to put out because that's a whole new audience. No, it's been really amazing to see you there. Dan Housen is so true to himself still in Ring of Honor, but he has to navigate Ring of Honor,

which has a lot of, you know, it's built on handshakes and purity of wrestling. And very straightforward wrestling. So it's been fun to try to weave my way through that, but still staying the same. Yeah, it's a great, like, the clash of styles makes it even, like, better, I'd say. But that's what I always think. I always think that, like like rather than two of the same thing have two different things and then it just meld men's uh together way better but uh but yes so the boys they're you know very carefully reading the comic they are sterilizing the tweezers

as they turn each page that that spider-man 33 i have i've read it once just so i could say like i flipped through it and i know it's a complete issue i will never touch this again like that's what i said to myself yeah then the uh the boys try to decide who's going to keep it after uh the the origin section is over and uh they then have an incredibly long explanation of who has it and who owns what that uh another jeff martin time killer and then he and once they can't decide a sleepover is decided upon about sunday well sunday possession will be determined by a random number generator i will take the digits one through three bill house will have four through six and bart will have seven through ninth. Perfect. Wait a minute. What about zero? Yeah, what about zero?

Yeah. Well, in the unlikely event of a zero, possession will be determined by rock, scissors, paper competition. Best three out of five. How's that? This is pretty good. Okay, all right, yeah. Excellent. Well, today being Saturday, gentlemen,

I guess I'll be taking my comic and... Nice try, Martin. It almost worked, but tonight this comic book stays right here. If the comic book stays right here, then so do I. Me too. Fine. We're all going to stay here with the comic book. It'll be like a sleepover.

Yeah. A sleepover. That's what pals do, right? Real friendly like. So I've always considered this. I'll ask you guys this too. So do you think bart is being too um paranoid or do you think martin made up that game and all of the layout of who gets what

each day just so he like well the point of it is that it's saturday today and i'm gonna get it and when martin takes it home he'll they'll never see that comic again and martin's just gonna keep it forever. That was the long con for Martin. And I will say also, oh, sorry, Dan Hasen. Oh, no, I was going to say, I was just laughing. I was going to also say, this is the one time where Milhouse is one step ahead of Bart. And Bart is being influenced by Milhouse.

Because Milhouse is the one who says, what about Sunday? And what about Zero? And then later, Milhouse will go, let's tie him up. That's true. So Bart is under the thrall of Milhouse in this episode. Yeah, no, I was just going to say, I don't know, because has Martin done anything sneaky like that before? Not really, no.

He's been like, you know, when Bart gets an F, Bart has to explain to him how to be a bad boy. Yeah, I feel like Bart is just being the greedy kid. I think Bart's too paranoid, yeah. Perhaps Martin always meant it, and then Bart is just being the greedy kid. I think Bart's too paranoid. Yeah, perhaps Martin always meant it, and then Bart's just like, oh, I see through you. But either way, it works great. And then also you get to see the little detail of the brick holding it down,

like setting it up there. Though for guys who are worried about their comic book staying in good shape, I wouldn't put like a sharp brick on top of it. Yeah. I don't know. Probably instantly ruined. Yeah. shape i wouldn't put like a sharp brick on top of it yeah i don't know probably instantly ruined yeah uh and so yes this is when bart bart's line of like uh real friendly like this this is when he transforms into humphrey bogart in that film which uh i have a clip of that here if you want

to hear humphrey bogart at his most paranoid uh and you can see how what a great job nancy cartwright is doing uh imitating this type of voice wouldn't it be better the way things are to separate tomorrow or even tonight i would suit you fine wouldn't it why me more than you say you could fall on me from behind sneak up and shoot me in the back all right i'll go first and wait for me on the trail ambush me why wouldn't i do it right here and now if I meant to kill you? I'll tell you why. Because you're yellow.

You haven't got nerve enough to pull the trigger while I'm looking you straight in the eye. If you think like that, there's nothing to do but to tie you up every night. I had not seen that clip in a long time bogart really you're not used to seeing bogart as this like uh unshaven like wide-eyed super paranoid guy he's really he's really good at playing against the like you know i'm used to cool guy bogart like oh the coolest guy in the world the the the bar owner the you know detective guy but here he's just like you'd like that wouldn't you but yeah you wouldn't shoot me i prefer humphrey boagart r.i.p r.i.p humphrey boagart but yeah so as the boys start choking each other then the action music comes in and this is when marge appears and marge is a very poor guardian in this episode and then she just, if you walk in on children choking each other,

you don't just go like, hey kids, what's up? She approves of their little tie-up game. Yes. Now Dan has, and I mean, I'm sure this is not the best parenting skills you're seeing on display here by your reckoning.

No, no, not at all. And- Almost Homer level. Yeah. Except it's, yeah, it's Homer level,'s it's homer level except marge is more like homer is actively like eh whatever like marge is just too innocent to think that the boys are trying to kill each other yes but she is letting them outside and

during a storm yes yeah it's uh she should have made them come in at this point honestly but but yes then i also like again it's so cute that Marge. Marge could just say s'mores. She has to say that they're microwaved, making them like crappier s'mores. Like they're not over a flame. Are the imitation marshmallows also in the s'mores is my question too. Yeah, I'd guess. Boy, that's not a gooey marshmallow.

That's even worse s'mores then. Yeah, I'd rather have s'mores Pop-Tarts than that kind of s'mores. And then we have a really ambitious, amazing shot of this long pan across all three boys' faces staring at each other. And their faces change in a shifting angle from three dimensions. It's really good. Then Martin gets up to use the bathroom. Bart pulls, instead of a gun pulled on him like how bogart does in the movie he pulls a slingshot on martin and that's when milhouse instantly goes

like let's tie him up which uh that then leads to uh bart and milhouse seemingly being on the same page but not for long is this how you treat all your guests like piggy will stick an apple in your mouth we can't take any chances We'll have to take turns watching him. Okay. I'll go first. Ah, so that's your little game. Let old Bart get nice and drowsy. Then when his back is turned, wham.

Well, it is not going to happen, see? You're going crazy, Bart. I'm telling your mom. Hey, Martin, tell him what we do with squealers. I don't know. Is it worse than what you do with people that have to go to the bathroom? You can't stop me. The hell I can't.

I love that Martin is so funny in this section, that he's just pointing out all of these plots. He's just checked out on it. He doesn't really care. He's like, I don't know. Is it worse than you? People got to go to the bathroom? I also like that Bart's going to hit him in the face with a rock with a slingshot yeah he's gonna and like he'll fall out of the treehouse like he's

gonna kill him my uh uh bart bar i get bart is fully lost his mind at this point like so night and good fighting animation among the boys and i love the shot of homer from his little beanbag chair looking at them and the lightning strikes the tree in this like in the weird side room right yeah this room that confounds everyone they'd reuse this shot in uh season three or four yes uh it's the coming up next on wings uh who cares yes that joke their attack on the show wings they yeah i uh the the lightning hitting i mean i think i think grading's right that it might be just a different angle on maggie's room like it has a small little tv in there and

there's like a uh blow up crusty in there maybe maybe it's maggie's room or maybe i'm just associating that with on on mcgaggy's birthday when they're watching the uh slopstickle course on the tv that they're in maggie's room there too right right maybe maybe that's why i'm associating the little tv with maggie's room yes the animation on the fight is really well done for the the kids all uh barton millhouse fighting millhouse then falls out of the tree he's hanging and this again is another very specific film reference to Hitchcock's Saboteur, because the final fight on the Statue of Liberty, a guy falls out and the other guy is holding him and not just by the hand, but by his sleeve. And the sleeve is starting to tear just as happens to Milhouse. So it is specifically from H hitchcock's saboteur and as a kid when i heard bart trying to

justify uh what's happening he's like hey you know what the rain did soften it up just let him fall you know that bones bones heal that comic book will never be fixed i don't think whenever i see a treehouse in the wild and it's very rare uh they're no more than like six or eight feet off the ground this treehouse is 20 feet off the ground. It's already a hazard. This is the highest tree house easily. I guess that's also a sign of like Homer's bad parenting that he put a tree house that high in a tree as well. And then I also, again,

I was the Martin among my friends pointing out obvious things unhelpfully in moments like this. Bart, look out! Don't let go of me Bart well it's not that

far to the ground the rain's probably softening up a bit no Bart

no no if you guys hadn't tied me up I could be safety of the comic as we speak

shut up shut up help me Bart I didn't even want the comic i wanted cars you stremski with a big cyborg what uh poor poor millhouse he did it's true he didn't even want that why did he want that baseball card so much i think i think he's just an impressionable kid i guess you know it was the dorky thing to like crawl you stremski of all of all baseball guys

like it's not a current guy he wanted a 73 card i would assume he's very into the baseball cards then or just baseball since he knows this very specific thing but you know when you're a 10 year old if you're super into baseball and then a friend says like no we like comics now you would go like yeah i love comic books baseball cards i threw them all away like no as an impressionable kid definitely at age like eight i started really getting into comics because other kids were bringing their comic books to the schoolyard i was like wow look at that like i i liked a spider-man cartoon on tv a lot and i like the toys but seeing the comics uh at school that was put me into the true

addiction of weekly comic but i swear nobody i grew up with red comics nobody i remember getting made fun of for having spider-man socks at school oh i mean now that's just the thing people like spider you know whatever they like socks yeah kids get bullied for a while who knows where they get bullied i i don't want to know it's probably sad but for their roblox yeah your roblox aren't as cool as my roblox. They see the kid designed like a bad level in Minecraft. And they're like, my Minecraft of SpongeBob is much better than your Minecraft. I like you describing Minecraft things as levels, Grandpa. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You and your Minecraft boards. I'm Mrs. Glick talking about Nazi Smasher here. But yes, Bart chooses to save millhouse instead the comic then flies out hits the ground the oh man the the animation and the lightning strike in that comic and its explosion like wow that's good that's really good animation i sent his little helper appears to destroy it before the lightning does he was waiting and that's when the boys they they are defeated and give up and and marge calls him back inside in this uh this real no lessons learned ending clip here boys you better come in the house you don't want to get the sniffles

come on you can play your little tie-up game inside. I've got some cocoa on the stove. Who wants imitation marshmallows? I do. I'd raise my hand, Mrs. Simpson, if I could. It's no use, fellows. Another comic book has returned to the Earth from whence it came. We worked so hard and now it's all gone. We ended up with nothing because the three of us can't share. What's your point?

Nothing. Just kind of ticks me off. Well, the world is safe again but for how long love that ending bart learned nothing yes yeah that's so great we uh i was talking about this with bob a little beforehand but like there were so many in a row of kind of a touching ending or a real state the moral kind of ending. But in this case, Bart says what the moral of the story is out loud, and all three boys are like, well, why do you even mention that? Who cares? I don't know. I'm just pissed off.

I love that. They all refuse to learn a lesson like that. It feels like they're so close to season three where they just stop giving a crap about like the lesson at the end of the episode. And Milas doesn't know that in six years or so he'll be cast as Fallout boy. That's right. Five years. Yeah. And so I wonder if then he told them about like, you know, I owned a radioactive man.

Number one for a half a day. One time. Oh, yeah. They don't bring that up at all. No, I mean, you know, I really need to. But I'm surprised. I really appreciate that radioactive man episode that they even say the original actor is Dirk Richter and he's dead. They actually keep telling you.

Oh, no. I was just laughing at that. He's dead like he's 85 years old and he's dead and and i also like too that nancy like apparently she had a cold that day the recording so she does bart sounds really stuffed up with all god but it works yeah and also last last compliment i'll say is like there's two really great animation bits here just one more time of like one the seeing from the inside of the car homer walk up to the car and open it like i love like all the motions in it are great and then needlessly but beautifully they have a close-up on the torn up comic book and then it like kind of zooms out or pulls out in in in real time like a real camera move it's again needlessly great and the cup these morning colors are amazing yeah they

look great they don't always do this for morning shots but it looks really nice here it's really good and yet i guess as a little kid it should have taught me that you can't share things it's hard to share things with friends when you're all selfish little boys but it would take me a little more time to learn that lesson but i mean this i think this episode does really perfectly capture how it feels to be a little kid and really really want something like that that's i think why it stuck with me it was one of my most favorites when i was bart's age because i knew what it was like to like if i heard about like something that was say a new optimus prime figure and i was like no mom this is the one thing i ever want i definitely want this you got to get this for me and then if you got you know it then within

a week i'd probably be like no mom i know i said that about optimus prime but that was then this is now this is now yes i definitely did that with a uh one of the wwf video games that was really bad i felt that because i like guilted my mom into getting me it and then i played it once i think and i was like this is horrible oh it's a real lee carvalho you were it was one of the xbox ones so it was a little bit later out but like no i uh yeah i do recall like uh before being able to read a bunch of video game reviews asking for a wrestling video game in particular and realizing oh it's not as good but then oppositely once my friends turn me on to the aki wrestling games like you know no mercy and revenge

i was like oh these are the good wrestling games this is what i want yeah those are great uh man i can't i'm hoping that you know we all dream that aw wrestling game will be they they keep saying like hey if you like no mercy we hired these people who worked on it like it i believe in kenny omega when he says he wants this to be the no mercy of our general of this year yeah he seems like he's probably very hands-on with that video game so hopefully he follows through since he loves him so much yeah uh man and uh yeah you know what i was just remembering too another another pro wrestler that loves comics and works in comic shops pepsi man himself cm punk oh yeah yeah he's uh i wonder how what he's reading these days but but uh but anyway yeah i think this this episode uh was a childhood

favorite of mine i think it is one of the best of season two. Maybe my favorite of season two. I think Blood Feud might be funnier, but this is my favorite of season two just because I watched it eight million times when I was that into comic books. It really captures the childhood love of comics to me. It's a nice break from some

of the downers in the back half of season two and some of the more emotional episodes that don't always work. It's a nice way to wrap up the season yeah there's a lot of those in those first couple seasons yeah they well because they thought it was a regular sitcom they're like oh well let's do a very special episode like yeah by this point they realize like how about we just be like big nerds and talk about how dirty we are yeah like the back half has a few that i'm not a big fan of, like a war of the Simpsons and Bart's dog gets an F and a few other ones.

So it's nice to see a lighter one like this, where the ending is just like, well, the characters learn nothing and it's fine. And, and the, and the creation of comic book guy opened the, the forbidden door as it were to so many more comic book jokes that they would

do from then on. And he would soon be be twisted to mock us. Yes, yes, yes. Me and you specifically. Well, Dan, has any other final thoughts? No, I think this is one of those episodes, though, where I don't realize that it's in such an early season because I remember the idea of it more.

Like, this happens actually often where I'm watching something and I'm like, oh, I thought this happened way later on. This on this one i knew was a little i thought it was like season four or something just because i it's been a while since i've watched seasons one and two um yeah no it's a great episode and it seems like it sets up like the tone of nah they were nothing which is great because that would be followed through so many more times after this uh and a few more i think we'll have the uh it's just an ending. That's it. Yeah, no, that's the next one, Blood Feud.

Yeah, Blood Feud. This is technically the season finale, I guess. I guess, yeah, because this is May, and then they'll hold over for July. And then I, as far as the DVDs count, Blood Feud is a season two episode. But, you know, you flip a coin, it's easy to call Blood Feud the start, the early start of season three instead of the late end of season two. I think post-recent events, we to call Blood Feud the early start of Season 3 instead of the late end of Season 2. I think post-recent events, we should consider Blood Feud the start of Season 3. That's true, yeah.

But that's not how Disney Plus categorizes it. That's true. But man, such a huge thank you to our very nice, very evil guest, Dan Housen, for such. Thanks so much for all of your time on today's episode. Oh, yeah. No, thank you for having me it was a lot of fun uh it was nice going back and watching an old older episode that i haven't watched in a long time i usually fall into that category of like i'll watch season four through

nine or so and just keep re-watching them and you know but it's it's nice to go back and watch older episodes there's good times to be had in season two. It's true. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Danhausen, please let us know where we can find you online and how we can support you. I know you're doing a lot these days, so we really appreciate your time. So Twitter is always the easiest. It's Danhausen80. Same thing with Instagram.

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Yeah, Paul Scheer betrayed us. I know. You can't trust that guy. A wild sentence. Dan Scheer. And then Paul Scheer had to be chased off with a knife, I believe. Yes. Alleycats chased him away with a knife.

Very bizarre. To see you and Ron Funches do the tequila dance, that was amazing. Yeah, it was nice because no one knew that I was booked. It was a nice surprise. It was my first time wrestling in California as well. Wow, really, man. I had pre-pandemic come over to debut, and then it didn't happen. And happen and then obviously i mean the pandemic is still happening at the time of this recording but it's a little bit more under control slightly so well yeah hopefully that's not your last wrestling event in california i i

look forward to seeing you maybe you'll come to our neck of the woods who knows yeah yeah no i i hope to come back it's one of my favorite places i visited so no it sounded i mean you can go to the and you can visit real springfield when you're here for a wrestling event so you can't be beat but thank you so much dan house this was such a treat yes thank you and thank you for changing my voice to not terrify people yes hey this is henry in the future just wanting to say that our pal dan hausen obviously has some more recent things he'd like to promote than when he recorded this with us so don't forget that dan hausen is on cameo dan hausen is on patreon and youtube at love that dan hausen in addition to now being part of aw's wrestling shows on tnt and TBS every week you should also be looking for

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