Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Trash of The Titans With Matt Christman And Virgil Texas

Episode Date: June 19, 2019

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Welcome to Talking Simpsons, the most whacked, tripped-out podcast ever. I'm your host, trash-eating stinkbag Bob Mackie, and this is our chronological exploration of The Simpsons, who is here with me today. Henry Gilbert, and tell the fat cats upstairs that things are going to change in this town. And who do we have on the line? Hey, it's Virgil Texas. Oh, Matt Chrisman. Woo! And today's episode is Trash of the Titans.

The 200th episode. Hey everybody, vote for my dad, Homer Simpson. If you don't, he'll beat us. Why you, son! No one's going to beat you, son. You're gonna get such a beating. Today's episode aired on April 26, 1998.

As always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real-world history. Oh my God! Oh boy, Bobby, Mark Wahlberg's The Big Hit is a big hit at the box office. Canada's Prime Minister makes a trip to Cuba, no doubt inspired by Homer's then-recent trip there as well. And one week earlier, Linda McCartney passed away, which is why this week's episode is dedicated to her on The Simpsons. It was a weird image to see after this show about trash, to see a cartoon of Linda McCartney's face saying, Oh yeah, by the way, she's gone now. She went into the big dumps in the sky.

I'm curious, have there been any guests on the show who died and were not memorialized like that? You know, I think there's a number of them, actually. I don't know if they did a Gary Coleman memorial. I highly doubt that. No. Well, that's me then.

Lawrence Tierney.anny no definitely not no no they want to forget about tyranny so they're like they're sitting around like they're like i don't know maybe the writer's room is sitting around deliberating you know gary coleman uh i do actually think gary coleman did get one yeah i would i would actually stake money on that i can't wait till it's uh time for them to end an episode by flashing a memorial image of Dan Castellaneta. Harry Shearer. But they're still making the episodes.

The show keeps going on and just the deaths accelerate and episodes just start having like, here's five prior guest stars who have died this week. The show becomes a memento mori. We do have a death jingle We played it a number of times

Whenever a guest has died We play the jingle Fortunately nobody on this one We will not be playing that death jingle today What about U2's manager? Old Hattie McDougal I don't know what his name is Paul McGinnis?

I'm glad they included him This is the 200th episode of The Simpsons And it's the 200th episode of our show yes so we have two very special that checks out that makes sense we've done a lot more than that though but our two special guests today are virgil texas and matt crispin of the chapo trap house podcast thanks for coming back to the show thanks for having us we are three department members of the three-timer club now of remote guests i think you broken the record of three timers i think okay so does that mean we get some sort of gift basket or perhaps uh monogrammed smoking jackets who's been on the

show more than we have oh i mean we have friends who are like kind of local gets that that do more like our friend kat bailey she's been on more than you guys all right well then we have to take her out yeah what's her record oh no please don't don't hurt Kat. No, I think it means we're entitled to at least 5% of your Patreon money. Check the fine print in the TOS. Damn those mods. You're breaking up? What? I can't hear you.

But, yeah, hey, we are super honored to have the Chapo guys back on again, especially you guys are in the middle of a world tour not unlike you two indeed we are uh as we're talking to you about to travel to the enchanted land of europe to watch fascism be reborn did you hire a potato man yeah he'll be following behind us at all times we've talked to you guys before about your uh love of the simpsons and connection to it though do you recall watching this episode and being there for the milestone to oh yes absolutely i watched this one i was this was probably at the peak of my like childhood tv obsession was yeah when this episode aired and i as a side note i want to say the simpsons have been to all the countries that we're visiting

except for germany they've never been to Germany? Have they? I mean, I don't know all these later seasons. Well, I know Grandpa Simpson sure has. Oh, yeah. That's an edge case. Sorry. In his fantasy, Homer visited the land of chocolate,

which is kind of Germany. They went to Ireland. They went to the UK with the Tony Blair episode. Terrible episode. And I don't know. We're visiting amsterdam we're not doing a show there i wonder if i i want to say they've done amsterdam done a lot of great visual gags in that one you can imagine everyone wearing the clogs you know i think it was

when they went to switzerland was the gag about the nude woman who was the crossing guard i think that was sweden that was sweden all right when they went it was it's a it was a trios of horror yeah they go to sweden to get the nobel prize with later jerry lewis that's right okay that that was the closest my brain could get to them going to amsterdam in later seasons that's a very late season thing to do hey let's just meet the celebrity that this character is based on for some reason. Oh, God, I'm glad Edward G. Robinson is dead. I mean, I'm sure they loved hanging out with Jerry Lewis that day.

I bet he told them they weren't very funny. I'm sure he was a little late. What do you got all these broads in here? What do they do? Get the coffee? Jerry Lewis probably told them, this is the best work you've ever done. This is like season 18 is the golden era.

Having me go spokish in my spokings. When I was looking up stuff for this, there wasn't, Fox didn't celebrate this as much as they celebrated the 100th. Like the 100th, they got every celebrity they could on camera to wish them a happy 100th episode. Mostly Fox celebrities. Yeah, pretty much.

But they didn't do that with 200th. It was weird. Which was the 100th episode? Oh, yeah pretty much but they they didn't do that with 200th it was weird which was the 100th episode oh sweet seymour skinner's badass song oh that's a really good one that's way better than this one i mean like this one's still pretty good but it's not nearly as good as that one that is one of the best episodes period yeah if you're a skinner fan oh absolutely my theory is they made this they say on the commentary that they knew this was the 200th when they did the table read of it so i i think they chose this mainly on star power that's that's my oh god no i remember the ads for this and i remember how hard they were hitting you too steve martin 200th simpsons and one of you two guys girlfriends it's a scene what were some of the other ones this season?

Trouble with Trillions, I think, which you did with Amber. That's right, yeah. I'm trying to think. Nothing else. I mean, this was still a pretty good season. I guess this does feel like the 200th episode. I mean, it has a song in it. This song's worth it, not alone.

And shockingly, though, this isn't even a third of the way through simpsons now are they at 700 oh god are we at 700 how shitty are they now seriously uh so the next treehouse of horror will be the 666 okay wow and so they just got renewed for two more seasons which will definitely get them over 700. Well, this is a very political episode of The Simpsons 2, relatively. Yeah, you could make some direct comparisons to real life events. Yeah, you could maybe argue that Homer uses certain tactics in his race for trash commissioner that might echo certain events of contemporary american politics oh also this episode in england speaking of the jolly old uk was a controversial one because of the use of wanker twice two wankers in this episode they wanked it twice and it hey they're just lucky

that there wasn't a fucking car bomb again that that one they just cut out right but this one yeah and actually when they replayed it 10 years later april 15th of 2008 they aired it before 9 p.m and uh it offended a number of british people hearing wanker at that early of an hour wow see i just thought that all all european television is just nude people at all hours of the day uh well as long as they're not wanking or if they don't call it wanking while they do it European television is just nude people at all hours of the day. Well, as long as they're not wanking. Or if they don't call it wanking while they do it, maybe that's fine. The UK, I'm pretty sure the C word is on the national seal.

National C word. Well, this episode also is partially inspired by Mike Scully's own father constantly running for local elections and losing. Never winning. That's a fun hobby. Yeah. I would love to be a local eccentric in a small town where I just ran for shit. You kind of are. You get to go out there, like, meet the community, hang out.

It'd be fun. Matt kind of is a local eccentric. Yeah, but it's like, I don't have that, you know, I don't have that aura. I really do need to move to a small town and just run for cop troller every year i don't know i i i think that you know everyone comes to new york to to you know be a be in a big pond and uh you know try to make a name for yourself i think you could be a local crank visible local crank who's constantly running for mortician uh like the brooklyn uh uh the the ceremonial brooklyn mayor's post i would run for brooklyn mayor that looks like a fun gig you would get you just you're going to cookouts and barbecues and walking in parade scully went on to write

for parks and rec so i wonder if that uh you know local election kind of stuff inspired him and that he's one of he's one of the if you see on parks and rec the local cranks that appear and say silly things at meetings he played one of those guys pretty regularly oh was he the one who is who said uh i don't actually i don't have to pay taxes i've never paid taxes and it's like that's illegal and he goes well you don't know my name or where i live yes yeah that's that is that was him yeah i thought so this episode though starts with a real commentary on corporations which uh i always love i always with the money the finger thing means the corporations uh i mean these this meeting at costington's really was how

as a teen i imagined business meetings went and and now i know they're much less productive double what do we hear from old Costingtons? Gentlemen, I'm pleased to report strong holiday sales from the Christmas Hanukwanza spend phase, and things look good for the mom-dad-grad-gift corridor. Then we'll have the usual summer lull, but hey, we're making enough money, right? Hey, hey, hey, hey Okay, people We need to cook up a new holiday for the summer Something with gifts, cards, assorted gougables

How about something religious? We had great penetration last spring with Christmas, too Oh, I know, spend over, like Passover But less talk, more presents No, no, No no no it's gotta be warm and fuzzy something like love day but not so lame. Happy Love Day everyone! Come on mom the store's just invented this holiday to make money. Lisa don't you ruin another love day. For you, homie. I'm Sir Loves-a-Lot, the bear who loves to love.

They didn't have Lord Hoggington? It's the same basic bear, homie. I guess. This is the first appearance of Costingtons, right? It is, yes. A hundred years without a slogan. I think that's the slogan. I love that slogan.

Yeah, I think Costingtons, you know, it's more funny than uh what try and save i think they needed a bigger branding company i would think costingtons is long gone now in in this corporation much like gimbals yeah and dress barn all the dress barns just shut down they did they did r.i.p i can't believe the store that implicitly compared women to farm animals went out of business, by the way. Love Day is a good game. Love Day is one of those things that you can just show someone a still with Love Day in it. And they're like, oh, I get what this refers to. I know what that means. And I don't know if you were going to play, but the part where Homer has to step on the doll.

Oh, yeah. He loves it as he's crushing it remorselessly that's just a perfect summation of so much you know corporate powered phony sentiment and how little it actually has purchased in our in our minds but we still go with go along with it once once you've hugged it once you've loved it enough and now it's time to throw it away i mean the smash cut to love day is great like that's hilarious i excited marches uh yeah she i enjoy the phrase gougeables yeah yeah they that should have caught on in the gift corridor the gifting corridor that's great you know they still haven't figured out how to properly monetize the summer yet you know you

know what really feels like love day is all the all the corporate brand twitter accounts oh you could just reply to any one of them with just a picture of love day on well i wish the show had told us what day is love day then we could celebrate it oh we could have ironic appreciation of it that in the mr burns a post-electric play universe becomes a real holiday that people celebrate you know they never really tell you when festivus is do they they just say it's around christmas Yeah, well, it's around Christmas. Actually, no, I guess it's supposed to be a replacement for Christmas. Yeah.

I was just given a Love Day card for Valentine's Day, and I don't think the card company knew they were referencing the Simpsons. They were just like, what's another fun way to say Valentine's? Oh, Love Day. Nobody wants to get gifts in the summer. They're too sweaty. And they're usually barely clothed. I think they need to find a way to give gifts on the 4th

of july like that just tie it into that give the gift of freedom baby uh also the way the guy says like we're making enough money right and then seemingly dragged away to be killed i i think of that often i i love that like there's no such thing as that and that's true that's a core capitalist concept is that profit must be maximized it's always with the capitalism that was my mistake in meetings uh when we worked at websites i was like sustainability is cool right like that's hilarious they dragged me away with their eyes i wasn't physically dragged away there's a little bit more of the the the healthy contempt that the really healthy relatable contempt that the writers have for suits in this that you see in the itchy and scratchy Poochie episode.

Yeah, especially the guy just pronouncing that it should be Love Day. But it's actually kind of a very Poochie moment of like, call it love, something not so lame. The irony of it is the people this is making fun of will never ever understand it or watch it or realize that it's about them it's uh i mean or they they'll laugh along with it and appear in the show like rupert murdoch did yeah i think now uh if you're on twitter there's no shortage of holidays because every day it's a new hashtag it's like it's national crouton day yep go and eat croutons yeah i always make it a point not to eat the thing that it's the National Day of. If I was planning to, I switch my menu.

Yeah, that's right. We subscribe to AdBusters. Though I don't think this show could have imagined things like the Burger King unhappy meal stuff. The pissed meal. Still the most amazing thing I've ever seen. That would have been a lazy joke. I don't like the fact i'm personally i think it's a little concerning that the blue meal that they sell the unhappy

meal the sad one the prize is a laundry bag and a fucking rubber band i think that's not good i love loves a lot i it homer's reaction to it reminds me of when i was a kid and my mom would get like the wrong Batman figure. She had the reaction of like, it's the same basic Batman. She, she was right. She was right to say that. I prefer the kiss. Kisses make me boogie-o-lantern.

Yes. Yeah. Kiss it and make it boogie. I think your mom was wrong. And if the alt-right had existed, then you would have joined it because of that incident. I mean, I was online enough i i feel i feel for the children today who are as online as i was then but have more nazis in their face incorrect toy purchases are that's the origin story of 70 of the all right uh but the yeah

the kisses made me boogie o'lantern i love that gag because clearly they just took their jack o'lanterns out of storage and put lips on it. Hilarious wax lips. Such a great gag. Using replacement for your own lips. And Homer's dance to the jack-o'-lantern is quite good, too. I want that on a gift loop. As Love Day ends, it's time to clean up the Love Day garbage. What the hell is this?

It's a kisses make me boogie-o'-lantern. Kiss it and make it boogie You kids take care of the wrapping paper I'm going to dismantle Loveland Oh, what a terrible waste. Yes, but the memories will last a lifetime. It's full, Dad. That means you have to take out the trash. Yep, that's the rule. He who tops it off, drops it off.

Nuh-uh. It isn't filled until it's spilled. I love you. drops it off. Uh-uh. It isn't filled until it's spilled. Yoink! Yoink! Yoink! I love you. I love you. They cut off his voice perfectly. Yeah.

It's almost like he gained sentience. Yeah. He just long enough to feel love and then betrayal and then death. And I think Marge spent thousands of dollars on

loveland she loves love day she loves it it says she only has so many outlets in her life marge does so she has to put it all in the loveland the uh the the battle over who takes out trash continues to this day in my house it's still i gotta say that that's that plant that uh rule that's just begging for disaster because everyone is going to be incentivized to push the limit on what constitutes full, which means it's always going to be just disgusting and falling over. That is honestly, that's something that haunts my dreams, the idea of a trash can with a rickety mound atop it of trash that could be falling off the sides,

and then having to bag that up, and then not knowing if you got crappy bodega trash bags or hefty. Yeah, you just got to go alternate. That's the easiest way. Why do they even sell the bad trash bags? They don't work. They don't do the job. I guess there's still a market for the cheapest trash bags still.

That don't work. That don't do the job of a trash bag. It's literally a market for the cheapest trash bags still That don't work That don't do the job of a trash bag It's literally a product that does not work Well, in this show, they don't even have the twisty thing When they say you have to tie it off yourself Like, I long ago started just using the ones that have the tie off The drawstring on them? Yeah, the drawstring

Who would get it any other way? That's crazy to me We live in the future Maybe it was different in 1998 i don't know but well this battle over who takes it out though i mean if you've had male roommates i feel like i've had these battles of whose job it is to take it out same same with dishes as well what is the rule around the chapo offices with trash guys yeah just keep your piles of it uh away from sources of potable water the rule is everyone follows felix around like baby birds picking up his detritus uh you remember where marge goes to

prison and there's all the trash in the house so they just kind of put a rug over it and it's just undulating with mounds of garbage that's what our office is like well this uh i i think this gave too many people good rules on like tops it off drops it off filled till spilled i'm a big uh lid garbage can guy as i get older and more boring i've been investing in better garbage cans i've got a real doozy at home it's uh when you have multiple garbage cans too like separate things for it and everything i separate things again very boring fancy pants with a separate garbage they're expensive i find they're expensive if you want a nice one that's not just like a rubbermaid thing you want one that's steel and has the two compartments one for your recyclables one for your non-recyclable

refuse that adds up that's a lot of money you want one that talks to you uh you know plays silo or just tells me the current fullness level and like with a stinkometer on there or something the battle of the trash can begins in the simpsons house bart staples a uh banana peel to it rather than take out the trash then homer gets his big breakfast log which that's i wonder what that is. I feel like it's just a pile of processed meats. Some sort of sausage he's just eating raw. I guess so. Yeah, it's just a

raw sausage. This sounds like the sort of product that Matt would talk about wistfully that you could get in the Midwest but not here. And be just confounded that nobody else knows what it is except for Amber. I'd probably try it. Like a Bob Evans tube of meat products? Yeah, I'd probably give it a shot.

Well, it reminds me of a giant-sized version of the Jimmy Dean sausage logs you're supposed to cut up and cook, which I've never purchased. Not that I don't eat garbage, but I've never eaten that specific garbage. On a side note, that choppa you guys did with bill oakley of the simpsons about food was such such a great one talking simpsons listeners if you haven't heard that one give that one a listen that's great yeah no he was delightful and uh we were of two we're of one mind on a lot of the same in terms of our preferences our love of arby's for example if you recall correctly he came in to judge our food quandaries, and he ruled one in my favor and one in Matt's favor.

So that was a tie. Yep. That's one all. Next time he's on, you need the tiebreaker on that. Yes, correct. Well, I'm sure that more greater food controversies will emerge. Oh, it's inevitable. I look forward to when food controversies will come up on Chapo from British food or whatever you eat in Germany.

Oh, man, I cannot wait to go to Tesco's. I'm going to go ham at the Tesco's. come up on choppo from like british food or whatever you eat in germany oh man i cannot wait to go to tesco's i'm gonna go ham at the tesco's i'm gonna go rock bloody mental with tesco mate i'm gonna get digestive biscuits i'm gonna get a bloody plowman sandwich yeah we'll need a british fast food comedy guy like chris morris or something gonna go cheeky nando's uh well i am looking forward to Nando's. They have it in a few cities in America. And our brilliant manager slash producer, Chris, has got Buckfast on our rider in Glasgow.

So hopefully we can drink that and then stab each other with the bottle. I've always wanted to try a Cornish Pasti. Oh, those are good. Gregg's. That's sort of the McDonald's of pasties. They're good. Oh, I'm going to go to Gregg's. I'm, those are good. Gregg's. That's sort of the McDonald's of pasties. They're good. Oh, I'm going to go to Gregg's. I'm going to go ham at Gregg's, too.

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He knocks over all the garbage. Marge enforces the rules on him that he heads off to drop off the trash. And he has this speech to himself, which I think I've given to myself during walks to the garbage can. It's a pre-spree speech. But things don't go so well for Homer and the garbage men in this next clip. Ow, ow, stupid, trash, rotten, stinky, hate world. Revenge soon. Take out on everyone. Garbage water!

You're pushing me, baby! Hey, wait! Stop! I have garbage! You guys are the lousiest garbage men ever! Yeah, I'm talking to you! You trash-eating stinkbags! Uh-oh.

What did you call us? I don't know. A lot of people were yelling stuff. Yeah, you called us trash-eating stinkbags. Didn't you learn anything from Love Day? That was yesterday, moron. Good news, everyone. I got in a fight with the garbage men, and they're cutting off our service. Oh, Lord. Now what are we going to do?

Just let the trash pile up? Hey, I'd rather live in a dump than in a world run by snooty garbage men. Dad, is this another one of those situations that could be solved by a simple apology? I never apologize, Lisa. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am. I think this is the first show to really just talk about the horrors of garbage water. Yeah. It's a constant fear of mine taking out the garbage.

Like, what is the water? What's it made out of? Oh, God. They really captured just the anxiety of taking out trash just perfect yeah there's so many disgusting things in this episode but i think just the garbage water is the grossest there must be one writer who has such a specific vendetta uh i guess having to take out the trash well i love in the garbage water drawing too like you see such sponge, you see the sponginess of his slippers,

soaked it up. So he has to like squeeze it to get some out of it. Like it's, God, not very appetizing. This is, this is not the best time to eat. We're post togey now.

It's like a very understated joke, but they do show that Ned's trash is just this little cube, which I guess that's just showing that he's more responsible with his trash and whatnot and uh yeah there's a great like i love how quickly the garbage truck backs up towards homer after he's he's threatened these uh these big scary garbage men when i was a kid i'm sure uh they're paid well but it was sort of an urban legend that uh garbage men are actually paid handsomely and like you can make so much money. And it was like the rumor growing up. I think they do okay.

I don't know. I watched Rock and it revealed the real life of a garbage man. And Charles Dutton killed a man. He did. It's on the records. You know, I feel like I'd read stories, those wonderful, awful stories about like, this trash man makes $100,000 a year. Isn't that awful? Type news stories.

Oh, yeah. There was one of those for like a sanitation worker on BART. Yeah. That's our train system here. It's like he made six figures because he had been a sanitation worker for like 35 years or something. And it was a shock and horror story. How dare he? He's been picking up your shit for 30 years. deserves more than that yeah honestly it's a dangerous job too

way more so than fucking cop yeah a lot of sanitation workers die on the job yeah they are the real i i respect them far more yeah they are the real truths imagine a day without a fucking garbage man holy shit society would break Yeah. I would immediately just settle all of my scores. Like, that's it. Oh, we don't live in a functioning society. Got it. Time to begin the cleansing. The thing is, like, it's because of all the stopping and driving and stuff, all the traffic stuff.

And they don't have, like, those little stop signs on the sides of their trucks like school buses have so people don't know what to do and they just you know run into or run over people oh that's horrible yeah no it's terrible of course you deserve that much money to freaking pick up the society's trash are in there often sanitation strikes in new york or is this why i've just heard about the big new time new york well there was a big one in the 70s yeah a huge long protracted one and that was just yeah that was society breaking down in new york uh and i don't believe we've had one since the last strike was i think this illegal strike that the mta did a few years back maybe it was like 10 years ago by now i i can't remember all too well but that only lasted like a week otherwise you know people know to keep the peace with the

sanitation workers and we do get those articles too all the freaking time and you know like oh there's 10 sanitation workers making six figures well homer's very like kind of weaselly a lot of people said a lot of things yeah that's a useful phrase but then then he gets gutsy he's like hey i was yesterday buddy like that's so such a fun turn from homer there and great design on him covered in trash like they clearly stuffed all of his pants with trash it's a good reveal and i like how it's good news yes yeah i'm curious yeah it makes you really wish you had seen exactly how they humiliated him i think at the i i bet their last touch was putting that grapefruit on

his head i think that was like the cherry on top and the uh i also like homers he apologizes that he does not apologize that's that's that's that's oh that's a wonderful line my dad i don't think ever apologized my entire life i can't hard to think of any time. It's, it feels like a very old dad style there. That's a good way to be. No apologies. There's a Mitt Romney way. Uh, I think the best I ever got was like an,

I'm sorry you took that the wrong way. Yeah. Yeah. That classic. I'm sorry. So trash is over Bart and Homer. Instead of like being sad about it, they get really into it and just start throwing shit out the window,

which if you're going to live in garbage, you may as well enjoy it that's that's that's a good way to think i bet the writers were upset they used their trash angel joke uh last year yeah they couldn't make trash angels and uh they say no room for you jello reference to the old ad campaign and uh no room for you jello reference to the post uh in a post cosby world i don't know what their slogan is we have distanced ourselves from bill cosbyby world i don't know what their slogan is we have distanced ourselves from bill cosby though apparently i didn't know that jello along with the dreamworks television animation did like a 2018 cartoon series starring jello people were they jigglers because i don't understand that you know i don't think i think jigglers are over i don't think they

they've been over but just like i don't want to touch the know, I don't think, I think Jigglers are over. I don't think they've been over, but just like, I don't want to touch the Jell-O. It's disgusting. I've never heard of this. The character, this was a full series? I believe it's on Amazon Prime.

Let me, let me look this up real quick. And the characters are Jell- I think they're piles of Jell-O, I think. Are they in the shape of like a Jell-O mold or are they more like if a person was built out of Jell-O, I think. Are they in the shape of like a Jell-O mold, or are they more like if a person was built out of Jell-O? I should not have opened this door. It's made from hooves, you know. It's not vegetarian.

This sounds disturbingly horny. I'm a little worried that this is horny. Is this what's polluting the next generation's minds? So in August 2018, Jell-O released an animated series on YouTube and Amazon titled Jell-O Wobbs. What? That sounds like a British slur of some kind. Yeah.

The Wobbs are at it again. Bring about the Maxim gun, Chauncey. Oh, I guess they're all just like generic jello mold shapes. Yeah, I see it now. Yeah, they're different wiggly parts. It just looks like your typical So they're just shapes? Yes, yeah, they're just shapes.

Generic shapes. They're not shaped like anything. That sounds boring. What do they do? Do they have eyes? Do they have a face? Yes, eyes and a face. I have one of these open on YouTube now, and it has 1.8 million views. So the Wobbs are taking off. They're more popular than us.

What is the show about? What's the plot? It looks like they live in some sort of refrigerator town. I think they live in the fridge. Oh, my God. You didn't tell me it was Wobbs with a Z Oh, okay, yeah Okay, yes

They're Blobs with faces Yeah, but what do they do? Do they have psychosexual dramas? They spread jello awareness That's not a plot There needs to be conflict So it's Jellos versus ignorance of jello

that classic archetype of a myth yeah it's a man versus man man versus jello jello versus ignorance i can i can read it straight from the press release here if you guys want to hear it. Oh, hit me. The Jell-O Wobbs is comprised of six episodes that follow the Wobbs, a group of lovable Jell-O characters cast from humble kitchen objects

in their adventures through a fantastical kitchen world. Sounds like Marge's favorite show. The show's protagonist, Bucket, is accidentally brought to life when Jell-O powder gets knocked into a bucket and mixes with a variety of leftover kitchen junk. Well, when we stop this podcast, we can start that one. Yes, no, we're going to do the Wobbs episode. Oh, yeah, I know. You got to.

Apparently, it's in line with a recent uh toy line that jello made called jello play uh designed to engage families and uh free play or something and fun so the way they came to life uh by accidentally being mixed with some chemicals under your sink yeah that's that feels bad to tell children like you're you're asking for poisoning children now at this point okay fine they came to life and now what do they do uh well they make a band in one episode and they create a clubhouse okay that's pretty sick looks like a general general sitcom hanging out type stuff all right well probably doesn't you know they probably have like this 10 season arc planned out and you got to get to... It becomes like Game of Thrones by season four.

So anyway, they start throwing shit out the window. Then Homer's joy... Ned comes over to ask them to clean up a little bit. And Homer... Me and Bob were talking before this. Homer is so mean in this episode. Meaner than he is in Grimes, the last episode we did with you guys. Yeah, he's mean in that episode like meaner than he is in grimes the last episode we did with

you guys yeah he's uh he's mean in that episode but in a sort of oblivious way in this one he's just like openly cruel he dumps garbage on dad knowingly so like he just happily does it and then we get to also see diaper hill which is yeah that is the grossest thing in the episode yeah wait till the sun hits Diaper Mountain. Disgusting. I said it before. Matt Groening's busy with Futurama. They're getting away with stuff he would have killed in the writer's room. On the mountain of shit.

We also get to see Farmer Dan's bacon used to distract a bunch of rats, which I wonder if that's from the same company as the breakfast log. It could be. It's Big John's breakfast log and Farmer Dan's bacon. But I bet it's the same Oscar Mayer company. It wasn't really a joke, though. A lot of brands in this first act. Yeah, I think the animation on the rats eating the bacon is funny, though. I do like that.

It's horrifying. And then Homer doesn't. He just says, well, the rats seem happy. Marge gets it really bad in this episode. like they they love torturing her in the this season like marge gets it pretty bad all season nine this is the first uh i guess reference to the cat lady but not the first appearance because presumably that is the crazy lady that's living in the trash pile that attacked marge you know the cat lady first appeared last episode that's right the edition we're recording these out of order, I'm sorry.

But, I mean, it could be a different crazy lady. It could be Mrs. McPherson's trash heap, as Birch Barlow brought up. That's right. Homer can't stand the idea of apologizing. Homer, that crazy lady who lives in our

trash pile attacked me again. That's not the way she tells it. And the school nurse says Bart has the plague It's like the measles, good to get it out of the way Homer, this has gone far enough Will you please just apologize to the garbage men? Yeah, Dad, you're always telling me and Bart to apologize Yeah, but I'm always secretly disappointed when you do Anyway, I think those garbage men are starting to crack.

I think you're starting to crack. Apologize for that remark. No way. Atta boy. I love that run. So I was consulting production codes just to see if I was correct. And this episode is the ninth production episode. And Girlie Edition is the 15th.

So I think this put the crazy cat lady in their minds. Wow, they must have sat on this then in air order just to get it to 200 quite a while then. I mean, of everything else in season nine to make it the 200th, I think I'd go with this one. I think this is at least like the most bombastic. Yeah, this is the most stars, like you said, are the biggest stars. Bigger than Ernest. Oh, I forgot to mention too too they said on the commentary that it was like four years separated the airing of this in the hundredth episode like almost perfectly

one day four years in one day and during the recording of the commentary they were doing the table read or something for the 400th episode ha yeah i laughed at that they're like oh we we hit the halfway point like haha you if you fools on this commentary only knew what i know like homer doesn't even believe that marge was attacked by this crazy lady who he met and talked to he trusts her more again homer's not a great guy in this one yeah no not not so great so the next morning homer is i like he's kind of excited to look at his mountain of trash in the morning. Also, somehow he slept through everyone removing his that's like a days long process

of removing all that trash, but whatever, the trash fairies took it away. I mean, that shows you how good the sanitation department is, that they could do that silently in the night. Yeah, Steve Martin runs a tight ship. That's what they did in the first place. It's not their job to take this idiot's trash he should have to bring it to the dump himself side show mel's right late when later in this episode he says it's excellent because

you're only supposed to just pick up like i can't just leave whatever trash i want on the street and the garbageman will pick it up yeah you can't leave an engine block or something you can't just put it on your lawn and expect them to haul it away. You have to hire someone to do that. I learned that the hard way in my last move. I put a mattress in the dumpster at my new place. My mistake was not putting it in the dumpster in my old place and leaving.

At the new place, you can't put a mattress there. I paid a guy to take it away, but I should have contemplated doing the putting it in the middle of the street and then calling the garbage man and saying like well somebody left it there you guys got to take it away yeah how would they know or write uh your enemy's name on it he's so proud of this garbage he put his name on it uh why couldn't he why

couldn't you put in your dumpster? They said it was too big. They said they don't take it away. My super could have been lying to me on that, but that was his opinion. Also, I found out that they have cameras on the garbage can all the time, and they knew it was me that put it there. Oh, man.

They're always watching in this apartment complex. Panopticon. Homer, though, seems to think that his uh his garbage strike works this is a very very proud day for us especially me your father me beat city hall it's just like david and goliath only this time david won i know i heard it too. Here's some music. And I think you wanted me to crawl, Marge. Well, this man doesn't crawl. He stands tall.

That rhymes, Marge, and you know it rhymes. Admit it. Homer, you didn't beat City Hall. They picked up our trash because I wrote a letter of apology to the sanitation commissioner and signed your name. Period. You signed my name? i feel so violated you've signed my name lots of times but this isn't like a loan application or a will you signed away my dignity and i'm going to get it back lisa do i have my pants on? Yes. Perfect. I like Homer's just happiness. He's so proud of himself there.

And then just seeing Marge next to him getting madder and madder, that's just so funny. Marge should have just let it go. Yeah, well. Would have been the easier way. She can't let classical music play in her head like Lisa. Yeah, has not learned that trick yet. Lisa talking to herself there.isa's lisa's stream of consciousness that's basically how i feel eight hours a day just reading online i know i saw it too i i need to be telling myself that

more when i reply to say joe biden fans on Twitter or people who share Bill Maher videos. I should just tell myself, listen to classical music in my head. I kind of like that Lisa also didn't become an um-actually person there, though, as well. Yeah. I mean, that's zen. We all need that. And I love that it's what pushed marge over the line was him insisting that that rhymes and you know it rhymes like he thinks that marge is not backing him up on him accidentally rhyming something now another great joke about

homer being cruel that he's forged marge's name regularly on her will on her will but homer like can't also that's a weird it's a really weird drawing when lisa tells homer that he's wearing pants like she has like this odd smile on her face i don't really understand what they're doing with that uh but so homer heads off and this is where we enter to the local politics of the episode and our big well one of our big guests on it uh i mean do you guys you guys are our politics heads uh but like how important is a sanitation commissioner like how much power do the do you think they wield i've never heard of a sanitation commissioner that wasn't a a thing in

any place that i always assume that on the east coast out where we live that they're all mafia affiliated criminals and their job is to decide which criminal italian uh mob family will be in charge of the sanitation let me clarify here i mean an elected sanitation person yeah you know i wonder if that's much an electable gig though when you mention the mafia and all that i am kind of surprised if fat tony didn't appear in this episode right yeah what the hell no i think a lot in a lot of cities the sanitation commissioner is appointed right which should tell you that uh that springfield is a weak mayor system which means quimby's position is largely ceremonial they most likely have a manager city manager city council uh form of government which

means with a lot of uh elected uh positions that would otherwise be appointed by a mayor who was in a strong mayor system well also uh ray patterson says that he's been elected 16 years in a row which is a lot like is there an annual sanitation commission election like i've heard of some uh offices like that going every two years but every year is a little unusual i could go every five years i mean it's it's a patchwork of laws in this great nation of ours but otherwise i always you know even as an adult it still sounds like one of those archaic local things like electing judges like the county judges or recorder of deeds uh corner i love recorder of deeds you is this just the guy you come in say here's a deed and

you're like all right i got you like you hand the back you hand him the receipt why would you have to have that elected what what's your position i'm gonna do a really good job recording those deeds i'm like this asshole well you know i suck so you know like i'm sure 80 of the elected recorders of deeds are just all like tea party trump people now also what the fuck with electing coroners what where where is that elected official i swear i'm gonna do a really good job carving up your grandma no they all run on ms-13 and abortion now and like and like ending creationism i think it should be pretty suspect if someone wants to be the coroner. I think we should not trust that. Especially if one of their promises is to not have sex with the corpses.

Why did you even bring that up? Nobody was asking you that. But yes, why don't we hear our comedy legend, Steve Martin, here as Ray Patterson. Here's your apology back, Mr. Simpson, and I'm sorry we couldn't work this out. Don't come off all high and mighty with me, Patterson. Here's your apology back, Mr. Simpson, and I'm sorry we couldn't work this out. Don't come off all high and mighty with me, Patterson. You can't scare me with your office and your desk and your lamp. I'm not trying to scare you. I'm trying to get my work done. Oh, I did it. Put on a big show for the cameras. What cameras? Why are you still here? I came to fight City Hall. I want to shake things up, Patterson. Stir up some controversy. Rattle a few

cages. Hey, stop that. Y'all never silence me. I'm the last angry man, Patterson. A crusader for the little guy. Leave the bird alone. Never. Look, Samson, I've been elected by the voters of this city 16 years in a row, so they must think I'm doing a damn good job. You want to know what I think? No. Nobody wants to hear the nonsensical ravings of a loudmouth malcontent. Well, we'll see about that. Aye! No cutting.

I want to register to run for sanitation commissioner and tell the fat cats upstairs things are going to change in this town. town okay but this is where you register as a sex offender ah jesus that was a line i love that joke so uh patty and salma are in the line uh jimmy the scumbag and also freddie quimby are in the sex offender line good picks for sex offenders of springfield especially freddie quimby i think uh though i mean the kennedy type dudes like him they do not register as sex offenders it's it's just shenanigans the

uh i apologize to listeners i had previously said mo was a registered sex offender clearly he is not a registered sex offender until this episode so i'm very sorry i had misstated yeah i explained the toilet flush in the design of ray patterson it yeah well it feels like from the same places you know jack lemon rodney dangerfield and helen hunt that they designed the character to kind of look like them but not entirely i mean it looks like a caricature of him in my opinion it feels like he's he's playing a role in the show i guess so yeah but he was at a very uh high point in his career at this point i mean now uh nobody cares we're post return of the pink panther returns or whatever god with those movies but uh he was doing things like bowfinger

be next year um and then cheaper by the dozen in those movies he was like a huge star around this time father the bride yeah yeah but uh no not so much i remember a uh like an av club story from a decade ago or something where Steve Martin was trying to pivot to something else because nobody wanted to see his bad movies anymore. Oh, no. And he did this public appearance, and people were upset because he only wanted to talk about art collecting,

which, to be fair, is very boring. The 92nd Street, why? They had to give people their money back because they thought he was going to do comedy and instead he was just talking about art. You wanted to hear about comedy? He's also an accomplished banjo player. That's true.

He plays a rare form of banjo playing. I mean, still for a whole generation, he's the guy who puts an arrow in his head. He never became a different thing than that to people. The last time I heard about Steve Martin, I think, was when he put out his uh his memoir that born standing up like that's uh that's when he did his wtf and everything good book i recommend it he also got on this group for anyone else he published a book of his tweets oh did he oh wow yeah this was back in like 2011 when i guess that was still a novelty the the writers on the show probably cast for steve because i mean they were all comedy nerds who grew up during his biggest time as as a star

yeah oh yeah well he was you know he was on um he was on snl so much he posted the first episode of snl that was george carlin oh well he he posted like this third then or something like that. He posted a ton. I think he was the first five-timer, I think. I believe he was, yes. And he's seemingly ageless because his hair has been white since he was 20. See, that's the Paul Rudd strategy. Look old when you're young, and then you'll never look old. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs.

Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? I think Frank Conniff on MST3K has that same thing. TV's Frank. You know, I also remember I really liked him in his guest appearance on 30 Rock. Oh, yeah. Gavin Velour.

Yeah, because he's like a Steve Jobs type and he's playing a very muted Steve Martin at the start, like in his first episode. But by his final appearance, he goes like Steve Martin crazy, and he's playing him as big as he's ever played anybody. You got like both flavors of Steve Martin. I miscounted the men, Liz. Oh, you know what? The last time I saw him in something was when he did the King Tut song on the 40th anniversary of SNL.

Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. I remember that. Oh, no. That was something. Well, he was a pioneer of that kind of smart, absurdist comedy that's still very relatable. Yeah, I think he was smarter than uh than a lot of people gave him credit for when he first appeared i think too yeah right but it's

just not as uh it's not as as polemical or or even observational it's just it's weird and i i you know bob and i disagree with this but i think it's unprofessional to keep a bird in your office i think i think homer homer's not right to abuse that bird no that's fine it's unprofessional to keep a bird in your office. I think Homer's not right to abuse that bird. No, that's fine. It's a small enough bird. Which one of you is pro-bird? Bob is a pro-bird person. It's a pro-bird podcast.

You're anti-bird? It's fine. It's cute. I mean, Bob, you probably had some issues with the bird abuse here. But birds are the one animal it's okay to abuse because everybody hates birds. I wonder if when the idea of sex offender as a joke and things started, it feels like a very late 90s thing of somebody just stating, I'm a registered sex offender. Yeah.

I feel like the joke five years before would be a joke about stalking because that was a fun... I mean, they did it on The Simpsons. I'm going outside to stalk yes letty and carl i feel like the first time i saw a joke about a registered sex offender would have been well probably either this or big lebowski i i don't actually know the legal history of my suspicion is that the the kind of tough on crime panic is what led to the this massive sex offender registry so it just wasn't a thing before that yes the specific legislation is but no i think it was created by the crime bill it might have been honestly i think it's the

crime i think the requiring states to have a register of sex offenders i think was in the crime bill so we can thank joe biden for this joke it says uh yeah megan's law is what started this oh okay sex offender registry in 1994 okay Okay. Yep. Same time frame. Although I might have been wheeled in, rolled into the crime bill. It's riding on the same wave that, that uncle Joe surfed into a mass incarceration. So Homer announces he's going to run for sanitation commission. The,

the headline subhead of local nut at it again. I love that joke. Yeah. I hope that's what I want one day for me to have. I mean, by this point, Homer and the Simpsons should be so famous to Springfield, he should either easily get elected on just fame or never elected because everyone knows him. I would guess the other side. I mean, he was a famous musician 10 years ago, right?

That's true. He's a platinum-selling recording artist. And that's when Homer's driving around with bart that's when we get the the opening line of of homer threatening to beat bart he's going to give him such a beating like homer you know pounding the pavement it's kind of fun in like an old school way to see this this old style of electioneering of driving around with the speakers on your car and shaking hands at the local uh plant. He's putting in the work. But then after that starts to fail, he kind of takes the modern Democrat turn of like, he needs celebrity, not pounding the pavement. Oh, well, actually, here's some of Homer's

electioneering here. Hey, vote Simpson. Hi, nice to see you. Thanks for coming out. You're putting on weight, huh? Lenny, my man. So, Homer, if we vote for you, what are you going to do different? What am I, the answer man? Just vote for me. You know, I don't know Ray Patterson, but he's no Ray Patterson. Yeah, Homer's a great nuclear safety inspector, but I don't know if I trust him with my garbage. You know, that's a peace of mind issue, you know? You little geezers just don't get it.

It's time to rock the boat! That's Hillary's campaign in a nutshell. Yep, yeah. I mean, he's very... Homer is Hillary-style offended at being asked for platforms. That's for sure. So, ladies and gentlemen, Beyoncé. Or like Mayor Pete.

Very, very anti-platforms in Homer's case. Well, yeah. So, yeah, he goes for a celebrity instead but they you know they didn't have beyonce then so instead he turns to you too for it which i think that's a good choice because you know bono was very much like a rocker who cared type yeah yeah i mean he did like you know charity and whatnot, AIDS crises. Not as explicitly political as, say, I don't know, Jello Biafra, I guess. But he was a political rock star. And this whole scene is meant to depict their Pop Mart tour.

Yes, yeah. Down to just the way they perform, what they dressed in, the TVs behind them and everything. I don't know if anyone has been to this. Maybe you can let us know in the audience if this is accurate or not. But, yeah. They had to be rich to attend that then. Yeah, not our listeners. I remember that being a big deal because it was an incredibly

involved and expensive stage show. Yeah, well they did that one they did like a TV based one right before it and then this one. Was that the lemon one first? Yeah, with Evan the Giant Lemon. Yeah, yeah, with them and the giant lemon. Yeah, and then they did the Pop Mart,

and it was in conjunction with Kmart or something? Yeah. And it was like, oh, we're doing the first culprit rock crossover, but it's also very self-aware. Oh, yes, we're selling out in quotation marks. I was talking with Henry before the show, and U2 is one of the biggest rock bands that ever existed, but until he jogged my memory,

the only song I can think of is the one on the Batman Forever soundtrack, and that's because Weird Al does a parody of it. Or he kissed me through, maybe. Kill me, also. The only song I really know is Sunday Bloody Sunday. I know that Uno, Dos, Tres, Quator Totes song. Oh, yeah. It's amazing.

This time, they were the biggest band in the world. They were the biggest touring band in the world. And then, like 10 years later, they've tried to put a YouTube album on people's iPhones, and they lost their shit. Remember that? It came preloaded, and they're like, get the fuck off of my fucking phone. I don't know what the U2 constituency is. I've never met anyone who has spoken positively

about older x generation xers i would say yeah i mean henry was playing a few songs for me after i was like i can't think of any songs and i was like oh i didn't know that was a u2 song because whenever the radio is playing u2 i'm like the radio is making noise again i don't think of you too well scott scott huckerman and uh adam scott had that you talking you too to me podcast i think those guys that they're speaking to the demographic that is youtube fans and still cares to this day yeah i guess we're 10 years too young for i mean i know knew their song their their last big hit was was that uh uno dos traits well or their song beautiful day that's like feels like a very right before night beautiful day i think was their last Was that Uno Dos Traits? Or their song Beautiful Day?

It feels like a very right before night. Beautiful Day, I think, was their last big hit single, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm looking at my iTunes right now. Songs of Innocence is on there as one of the albums I've, quote, unquote, purchased. Hey, this is producer Chris in the room with Matt and Virgil. I just want to say that the song you're thinking of is Vertigo.

That was probably their last big hit. But I also want to say that the song you're thinking of is Vertigo. That was probably their last big hit. But I also want to say, if anybody has any questions, I've been to a U2 concert in the last calendar year. Okay. What's the demographic? I mean, yeah, older boomers. Okay. Or older X-Gen. Or older X-Gen.

But, you know, they were the most popular band in the world for a solid decade. Yeah. So you're going to retain some constituency there no matter no matter what even if you fade out of the what's uh what's hip and young wasn't that an adorable time when there was such a thing as a huge rock band yeah well there still are i mean you know no no rock is dead look if you two toured again they could probably play uh oh yeah with the with the old audience what i'm saying is like with a younger contemporary audience there's no big rock band yeah well there's no emergent rock band that is giant and hugely popular with young people.

I don't want to super get into this, but I'm sure something like Imagine Dragons is going to sell major tickets at this point. Imagine Dragons is the closest thing. I put it to you, sir, that they're a fraction of the youtube popularity just to give a little glimpse into where youtube's politics are now the one of the most memorable moments of that song or of that concert is when they're doing their current version of sunday bloody sunday they have this huge screen that runs the entire length of their arena and uh they're showing images from the troubles and they're both basically just showing this montage of like kind of cartoon political drawings from the time and basically doing violence on both sides for the troubles it's like uh like the atrocities on either side

well just like well come on bono remember bono is a filthy prot he famously in the 90s early 90s he was in san francisco for a concert and someone was waving a flag that said sf and he thought it was for shin fein and he started yelling at them for trivializing the violence and it's like no you're in san francisco is he a dup guy i think he's he's a both sides guy do people insist on sitting in their chairs like auto does at the at this u2 show you went to we were all standing we were in the back back uh i believe we got we actually if i remember correctly it was this show that I was at where some guys behind us were like hey you're blocking our view

we paid good money to be so yes I think that they basically did the same thing and got mad at us for standing during the rock concert in front of them which is perhaps one of my least favorite concert behaviors you know I was trying to see where rock is at right now with

the young people at coachella like it's pretty rare that the headliner is a rock band and when it is it's like radiohead or arcade fire which have just been like they're not new you know or guns and roses what the fuck yeah arcade fire is not huge they won a grammy but there it was still like a big thing that they're an indie act even at their biggest height they were never anywhere near the u2 level there's that doesn't exist that tier has been eliminated yeah i gotta say i agree with because rock is dead baby rock is turning into jazz it's a niche genre for certain types of people but the broad pop milieu is all it's all rb and uh pop ladies and such and apparently 50 000 korean guys i agree we all look identical they don't look identical that's literally racist

no no they no they give them surgery to make them look that way okay okay okay grandpa got into the horseradish again uh let's go back to the simpsons uh they also spent a lot of money to get pride on stage too like they paid for that song like that's uh maybe that was why they got you too because they're like we'll pay for the music licensing rights to get that song and the woman in one of the scenes with homer who also kojak yes uh that was the uh i believe uh a record executive that later would date uh one of them yeah and they were dating at the. I could not find one picture of her with a shaved head. So it feels like they froze her in like one specific point in time in her life, like one haircut.

And then that was it. Like sort of how Billy Corgan has hair on The Simpsons. Oh, yeah. It's like, oh, he had hair once. That's right. Oh, God. What if you, you know, you go in and they're like, okay, we're going to make you into a Simpsons character.

And you have to be like, I don't normally look like this. Please don't draw up. No, this is just for today oh now they can just pull up an old picture but then i guess they didn't have one available with them but well i mean they have like promotional headshots but i guess the manager wouldn't yeah well yeah so that's uh that's principal manager paul mcmaginnis as the the bald guy rejecting the potato man. And they have Susie Smith. That's Kojak there. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Can I help you? Potato man. Where the hell have you been? Okay, camera two. Excuse me. This is a restricted area. Take a hike, Kojak. One man, he will exist.

Hello, Springfield. It's me, Homer. What the bloody hell? Quiet, you. I know you youngsters want to see these rockin' rockers, but I also know you care about the race for sanitation commissioner so let me give you the 9-1-1 and uh and they got all of you too except for larry mellon jr the drummer he was not present so that's why he doesn't say anything and why like in the last scene the episode he's asleep and uh well the insistence having paul mcginnis there too reminds me of when aerosmith's manager was just hanging around in Flamingo. Oh, right.

Yeah. Yeah, just like it's weird that we meet their two of their friends first. Yeah. And then you two. You know, the Irish jokes of the potato man, it does remind me that our previous Irish guests, they were totally cool. They love all the Irish stereotype jokes in there. And they speak for Ireland. But yeah, so Homer comes on stage,

he just jumps onto the stage, takes over the video monitors too, in a very like powerful move. And, uh, and when Bono tells him, gives him the chance to give a speech, not only to Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen leave with the edge to not have to hear Bono give a bullshit speech again, then, uh, then Homer has nothing to present other than dancing which did really remind me of hillary clinton on ellen i have to say the crowd did not like the monkey no he should have dabbed obama did some dances on the ellen show and he won so you know not a bad strategy hold on people the man's talking about waste management. That affects the whole damn planet. Oh, here we go. What do you say we slip out to Moe's for a pint?

Can I come? No. Wankers. Now, Homer, I hear Ray Patterson is a fine public servant. Why should the people of Springfield... Why should they vote for you? That's a good question, Bono. Because I'd be the most whack, tripped-out sanitation commissioner ever!

Can you dig it? Wow, look at him go you're the real lord of the duns homer oh help me don't worry folks he'll get the help he needs. So Homer gets escorted off stage and beaten as well to the music. Getting all the help he needs. That's a great, I love that. That's a great visual. I love that. I was sad when they went to the next scene, he wasn't horribly beaten. But in the next scene, though, Homer comes across a slogan with Mo.

I just love in this video, Homer is all over the place as he's coming up with his slogan. My campaign is a disaster, Mo. I hate the public so much. If only they'd elect me, I'd make them pay. How do I make them like me? Gee, you're kind of all over the place there, Homer. You need to focus here. You got to think hard and come up with a slogan

that appeals to all the lazy slobs out there. Oh, well, can't someone else do it? Can't someone else do it? That's perfect. It is? Yeah. Now get out there and spread that message to the people. Woo-hoo! Whoa, hey, you didn't pay for the beer. Can't someone else do it?

Very good. Seriously, give me the money. They do the cute sitcom scene and then Bo pulls a shotgun on him. That's very, I got very Joe Biden talking to his advisors vibes from that scene. He wants them to like him. I mean, Joeiden seems all over the place so homer's platform i mean i the hack thing to do is point out that this is similar to make america great again but there were a million i mean in 2016 2015 there were a million news

stories on like the simpsons predict the trump campaign so this is not a new thought i mean his populist message through a very clear slogan like it's easy it's easy to make the maga comparison for sure yeah but homer is also uh promoting socialized garbage care yeah yeah that's true he wants he wants bigger government like that that way it kind of reminds me of bernie because they're both the same you know they're two sides the same coin trump and bernie i have always thought well you know the right leveled that charge against obama too that he you know he's just a slogan so not that not that common well and also that like like homer obama promised free stuff people just want stuff and he promises it to you as as bill o'reilly like racistly said one time oh george f will

probably had a field day with this episode i wonder yeah i really actually wonder if a conservative commentator i'm sure at least one did wrote a hand-wringing essay about this you know i'm what in 98 i wonder if those guys were as invested in the culture war like that to comment on every thing like they do now i wonder there's nothing else going on it was the end of history yeah they know a lot of them were just watching tv and getting mad at it uh and so homer is yeah can't someone else do a thing catches on big time the guy with a snotty tissue and his giant nose like that i love that guy's design he will never come back the closest to like trump's racism is him saying that's not even mexico as uh using this is a good speech you have that clip of just that's

that yeah let's hear that one but aren't you tired of waking up early and dragging the garbage to the curb annoying in the morning aren't you tired of having to peel that last naughty kleenex from the bottom of your wastebasket? I'll say. Well then, can't someone else do it? And can't someone else scoop out that nasty kitty litter? Well, Ray Patterson thinks you should do it. Animals are crapping in our houses and we're picking it up. Did we lose a war? That's not America. that's not even mexico

don't you deserve better than the best who should handle all your dirty jobs second time we've heard the chant someone else oh yeah i'm someone else he's right deferring responsibility like that's very popular in Springfield. I borrow the slogan, did we lose a war whenever there's a minor injustice in my life? Yeah. No, that's a good pitch. I relate to it. And the answer is yes.

Like seven of them. In a row. I heard mission accomplished on all those wars. I think we did it. I think it worked. Yeah. Then Homer, Homer has got a populist, like groundswell of support here, which he, he takes straight into the debates, uh, with Ray Patterson, which like everyone's laughing at, like this did

remind me a lot of Trump versus like Rubio and jab. It really did. I'm sorry. My opponent didn't think enough of you to show up for this debate. I'm sure he had more important things to do. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Sorry I'm late, everyone. Somebody tampered with my brakes. Well, then you should have been early. I got you there, Ray.

Oh, come on, people. This man has promised round-the-clock trash pickup. That's impossible. Not if we hire more men. And my men will do all your messy jobs. They'll wash your car, scrub your shower, air out your stinkables.

Especially, I mean, Homer's bullying of Ray Patterson here in the second part of the debate. I'll play the clip real quick. It's very similar. I can't believe what I'm hearing. Well, then you better turn up your hearing aid, pops. Pops? I'm only two years older than you. Do we want old man Patterson here With his finger on the button

What button What the hell are you talking about Which button where am I Who took my false teeth Alright fine If you want an experienced Public servant vote for me But if you want to believe

A bunch of crazy promises about garbage men cleaning your gutters and waxing your car then by all means vote for this sleazy lunatic woohoo aren't you gonna buy it dad 50 cents not likely I mean that totally reminded me of when Trump told Rubio he was like flop sweat and shaking all the water around all that shit and he was right it's a good pitch

Ray's pitch was very similar to the Hillary pitch of just like I'm the most experienced don't you want that come on it turns out you need to be the most likable. Homer was winning on likability there. I mean, Ray Patterson does come off as kind of a scold.

I'd have voted for, honestly, Homer's crazy promises would have gotten me to vote for him too. It sounded pretty cool. Even though he's right, he's kind of a jerk. Yeah. Well, like most people, none of us know what the sanitation commissioner does. So yeah, what the hell? How bad could it go? Homer talked me into the ballot booth for that,

which I wouldn't even like have gone to for sanitation commissioner. I feel like for all the people who said this predicted the election, like when they were writing it before 2016, then they really shouldn't have been as surprised when Trump won since this episode presages that too. But yeah, so Homer's now actually has to be in office.

This is where that i think the comparison breaks down because they predict he'll crash and burn very quickly which uh still waiting on that one and also though homer then tries to befriend ray patterson as well he's just like ah come on we're friends yeah homer is civil as a politician as well what more do you want people it was that great line from the debate where Patterson says, you cut my brake lines. And then Homer says, well, shouldn't you have been early? And Wiggum just goes, yeah, he's got you there.

But then we get that parody of the Candyman, which I've never seen Willy Wonka all the way through. Really? And I forgot that like 45 minutes of the movie, they're not at the factory. And so I watched this song for the first time as it is in the movie. It's boring and kind of creepy. It's just like a shot of a guy

singing to kids. And I think the movie, the purpose of the song in the movie is to let the viewers know children like candy. Candy is sweet and children like it. Wait, I don't remember that from the movie either. That's at the beginning. The guy I don't remember that from the movie either. That's at the beginning. The guy's singing to the kids at the candy store.

Wait, he's singing the Candyman song. Yeah. I thought that was an old standard. No, it was invented for Willy Wonka. Really? And then it became a staple of Sammy Davis Jr.'s stage show. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah, that was, that started in 72. 71 was when the movie came out, and 72 was when Sammy Davis Jr., who, even he admitted the song's like cheesy and bullshit, but it was his only number one hit, Sammy Davis. Oh, coming from him, though.

John Paul! The Garbage Man Can. John Paul The Garbage Man Can Who can take your trash out Stomp it down for you Shake the plastic bag And do the twisty thingy too The Garbage Man Oh, the Garbage Man!

Oh, the Garbage Man can. The Garbage Man can. And he does it with a smile and never judges you. Who can take the sniper? I don't mind at all. Who can clean me up before the big policeman's ball? The garbage man Yes, the garbage man can The sanitation folks

Are jolly friendly blokes Courteous and easy going They mop up when you're overflowing. And tell you when your ass is showing. Who can? Who can? Who can? Who can?

The Garbage Man can. Cause he's Homer Simpson, man. He cleans the world for you I did enjoy Krusty's box of used porno. Used porno. Makes you think, what does used mean? And why did he label that box? I think you know what it means.

I like the Oscar the grouch that's a great visual gag and it's and he does it on the fourth joke instead of third third is usually the rule on that but I like the um I I think that was the last like great song they did in the series yeah it might be it might be I think uh well they this was written by Ian Maxton Graham the writer of the episode though I mean mean, it's a parody. Yeah, you don't get the ASCAP money for it. It's pointed out in the commentary. I also love the animation on the joy on Wiggum's face

when he's cleaned off by them. He's like childish laughter. They're not even just taking out your garbage. They're cleaning your body. Yeah, it will soap you down. It's a wonderful vision of america uh i mean that's uh if elizabeth warren really wants to catch on she needs to pitch that not the not the college dip thing uh i also it's really cool that when they have musical guests

they don't always get them to sing but in this all three of the guys sing even though only one is a singer but that is true. I mean, Edge sounds fine. I don't think we mentioned this, but you two requested to be on the show. They wanted to be on The Simpsons, and they found an episode for them to be in. And yeah, they sang the whole thing. If you want to search on YouTube, you can find an MTV News about them recording this. And they're all in the same room, and they recorded for a few hours that day requested a beer yes yeah they're like oh we got a method this have actual beer when we're drinking beer at moe's uh bono really gets into singing about his arse too i like that a lot when

they cut back to homer mum humming the song i assume that means that it was all just a fantasy of homers no that happened that's canon well you do see the guys in those outfits later so maybe uh and yes that's when homer is alerted that he has spent through his entire budget in a month which we find out that is 4.6 million dollars which this is 98 money but uh in like in 2012 new york city's budget for sanitation was two billion so it's a smaller city. I don't know. Springfield's pretty big. It's got like a gorge and a mountain. What garbage is accumulating at the gorge?

Come on. You know, they should have put it in the gorge instead of that mine. I mean, it must have fallen out of the gorge too at some point. Yeah, that solid waste that saved Homer. Oh, yeah. It's already there.

You're right. He can't put it there. But yes, Homer has run out of money he's by signing checks with a stamp like that's how it just he flew right through it jim shane you idiot you spent your entire year's budget in a month your department's broke oh no wait i think I've got the perfect solution. You'd better, because those garbage men won't work for free. Oh, Pattinson was right. I'm crashing and burning, crashing and burning. How could you spend $4.6 million in a month? They let me sign checks with a stamp, Marge. A stamp. You know, Dad, there's a lesson in all this.

Many cities have problems with garbage disposal, and it's time we realized you can't just... Wait, shut up! I just thought of something. Morning, boys! Where's our paychecks, bum my man ain't working another minute till we get paid will cash be okay will it did i hear a briefcase opening clearly though they should just increase taxes on mr burns and pay for the new sanitation pay for it i mean everyone is so happy with this

system uh even though it's expensive. I mean, surely all the grifters in office want to, you know, keep everyone happy. There's less money for graft going around then, I guess is the case. I mean, Quimby has like a spider sense for graft. There's so much of that. You can hear a briefcase opening.

I love that. Also that Homer's learning the lesson of the power of unions because the trash collectors union won't do it for free, which that that's a pretty great that that's his plan. I, there's also a little moment of Lisa kind of leading the viewers to thinking this will have Homer learn his lesson.

And instead he just tells her to shut up and that he are, he came up with something else. It just runs away. Homer somehow gets money. He opens up the briefcase, pays off all the union guys. How does he do it though? shut up, and then he came up with something else and just runs away. Homer somehow gets money. He opens up the briefcase, pays off all the union guys. How does he do it, though? The family has their own guesses here.

When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? Okay, before I show you, who wants to guess how I got the money?

Dealing drugs? Drugs. I'll have to say drugs, too. Close, but you're way off. Look at that beautiful garbage. Other cities don't want it, so they pay me to dump it in this old abandoned mine. That's awful.

I almost wish it were drugs. Some of it is. Good God, Homer. You're turning our wonderful little town into America's trash hole. Marge, it's me on the ash hole the ash hole tray but dad you can't cram garbage under springfield forever sure i can honey kitten they really got away with the line ash hole yeah and that's also when we get the vision of loves a lot covered in hypodermic

needles yeah just being pushed to the camera a A lot of little callbacks. Yeah, by the time you see Love's a Lot in this, I had forgotten this all started on Love Day. Yeah. When this does really happen, cities ship their garbage all around. I think they do it more to China now. Homer's using a real SimCity strategy on this. You buy garbage from other towns.

Oh. Yeah, yeah. This is a very real statement, though. Homer's using a real SimCity strategy on this You buy garbage from other towns Oh Yeah This is a very real statement though I guess you know Clearly everything's fine Because we just did it And there's no problems Like I never have to hear about them

So Springfield is now on a raft of garbage Which reminded me of when I worked at an office complex In South San Francisco That didn't exist until years ago When they just built it on piles of trash. Garbage Island. It is a garbage island.

And so Homer is celebrating with Quimby, and that's when the garbage just starts popping out of the ground. I like the sound effect on the lump of garbage popping out of the golf course. It's so good. It brings the Flanders rabbit back to life, seemingly. Oh, my God. That's one of the gross course is so good. It brings the Flanders rabbit back to life, seemingly. Oh, my God. That's one of the grossest things, too. That dead bunny popping out of the ground. Although we are treated to the term stink bone.

Yes. Cletus thinks he broke his stink bone. The garbage pops him out of his outhouse, and it says, I'm guessing that means his anus is stink. Yeah, yeah. Sure. and it says i'm guessing that means his anus is uh yeah yeah sure and also the the bit of quimby looking at all the garbage and then turning around and homer's driven away is so goddamn funny too just the the beat of that like the the beat to that scene uh but so everything's

the the entire town is just full of garbage they they have a a town meeting to decide what they're gonna do and here this is these are where the parallels to trump ends yes yeah this whole third act is like no there's no again this uh the show imagines a lot of like fictional uh checks and balances that don't exist though then again homer isn't they say they're gonna horse whip him in this scene but he is never horsed whipping he doesn't i guess he loses it'll be after they move the town i think sure sure and all those opposed to horse whipping homer simpson me and now all in favor of reinstating ray patterson Oh, gosh. You know, I'm not much on speeches,

but it's so gratifying to leave you wallowing in the mess you've made. You're screwed. Thank you. Bye. He's right. He ain't much on speeches. No, people. We are far from screwed. And the garbage explodes out of the podium, which is really great. So that's like the 17th time

they've done that Red Fox joke on the show. I think it's maybe the second this season, but this is the most specific to that event where Red Fox is playing in Vegas or something. They play him in with the Sanford and Son theme. He sees the audience. He's like, I'm not playing for this shit because there's nobody in the audience.

And then they play him off with the same thing because they had no idea what to do. It's like, I'll play him off, I guess. So he was on stage for a total of like five minutes. He's like, I'm not doing this shit. Like five seconds, actually. Red Fox should have standards. He should.

I agree with Red Fox. Oh, absolutely. Also, a great callback for this being the 200th episode he's played on by the larry davis experience oh yeah the uh the season really like season one and through five band kind of from uh some enchanted evening so like the first production yeah they go all the way back to the first production episode the babysitter bandit episode they're the ones playing the mambo as homer and marge are dancing uh it's also a great gag of just cutting into i and then you you find out

what everyone was voting on yeah yeah yeah i like the way that's constructed but uh i think i feel like hillary imagined she's going to give that speech someday that uh that ray patterson gave hopefully i mean if things you, start to go south. I mean, it's only a few days we got to wait for the Supreme Court to install her as president. I'm sure that's going to happen. So after the explosion of garbage, Quimby is kind of left with like clownish makeup on his face of like green lipstick almost around him

as he then presents plan B, which this is our final clip here of what Plan B entails. The time for panic has come. We must move forward and turn to the town's all-purpose contingency plan. You mean Plan B? Yes, B.

I can't believe it's come to this. Come to what? Moving the whole town five miles down the road. It's crazy. Yeah, it's tempting, all right. So we transplant the town. We're just going to trash the new Springfield, too. Yeah, but what are you going to do?

If you need me, I'll be at Moe's. Hi, Moe. Hiya, Homer. me i'll be at modes do yourself a favor don't turn around i told you not to turn around. There you have it, though. Very typical late season ending. I wonder if Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos had an inspiration watching this and thinking, Ah, now I know what we're going to do. Let's get those Mars colonies going, folks.

Let's move to a planet five miles over. I think they partially made this ending so implausible to just annoy nerds on the internet because it did annoy me. I was like, well, if they're five miles down the road, none of this makes sense anymore. But they're not. It's fine.

I mean, for Super Simpsons nerds, this is kind of a marker of, well, real Springfield is officially dead now. Every story that takes place is not in real Springfield after this one. That's all under a pile of garbage in the middle of nowhere. They do get a good callback to this joke in, I think, a couple seasons when they blow up Monty Burns' casino. Oh, yeah. And then Homer, they say, well, why did we move it five miles down the road anyway?

And then Homer goes, well, I got a funny story about that. And then they're interrupted. Though I did, when I was a kid even watching this, I knew a crying Indian gag was stale. Like I was like, oh, God. Yeah, we're reaching the end of that shelf life for that. And then we get a rare gag over the credits, too, of just a few more minutes with the U2 guys and their spoon collections. Look, guys. I got a Springfield spoon for my spoon collection.

Oh, here we go. How many spoons have you got now, Adam? Nine. If I didn't have my spoons, I'd go insane. Can I see it? My spoon. Winkers. A rare Mr. Burns, you two interaction.

Yes, yeah. That could have been any character, I think. Is the joke that they're like on the Concord together and only Burns could afford it? Maybe. Yeah, that makes sense. I don't think it's a Concord from the external shot, though. Not that I recall. Yeah, it's true. I don't think it's a concord from the uh the external shot though not that i recall yeah it's true i i don't think so i though i mean will this inspire you guys to collect spoons all around europe i have never collected a spoon i don't understand what that's

about i always just think of that s that kids in the hall sketch about the aliens collect spoons and how it's evidence that they're boring so that always made me think of spoon collection as lame so no thank you who's going to wait there are spoons for various municipalities well yeah i've been to like you know the stuckies type thing and they have like a spoon but it's a it's not a plain spoon like adam clayton has here it's like a a spoon with a little medallion in the middle that's like St. Louis, the spoon. Or the handle you painted with a scene on it or something. Do you put them in your drawer and use them for spooning up stuff?

I think you hang them up somewhere. What? No, they should be a useful object. You buy a key chain, key ring, you put your keys on it. But then you worry you're going to destroy it uh well but then you're worried you're going to destroy it through use so then you've lost your your keepsake uh not if it's well constructed i don't know i'm getting getting getting real aggravated now well fortunately we're at the end of the episode so uh oh geez we got a lot to think about here uh you know this

was a really fun 200th episode i uh this was better than i remember i just wish homer wasn't such an asshole in it yeah yeah this is definitely jerk ass homer in full effect i kind of like him when he's a jerk it was the the jokes mostly landed of him being a jerk when he's rattling the birdcage that's great uh why any last thoughts on the episode i guess you know maybe if he's going to be such a jerk, then the third act should have his downfall be even bigger than that. But, you know, despite the late season type, you know, screw it. We'll press a button instead of writing an ending.

You know, it's still a good episode. If only we'd seen Homer whipped, then that should be the ending. Just his whipping. Getting whipped over the credits. Just whipping over the end credits. That little button with Mr. Burns, I don't know, that's just nice. It's nice comedy for the nice folks. That offended all those starched shirts in England when they played.

They couldn't take it. Yeah, I wonder what's been going on over there in the past few years that might point to some decline in incivility that they can point to this episode as being responsible for. Everyone who heard Wanker in 1998 as a kid is now a follower of Tommy Robinson. Yeah.

It could be true. I guess you guys, we'll do our plugs off the air with this, but did you want to have anything in particular to plug european tour well when's this coming out a few weeks mid-june mid-june too late too late yeah we don't have anything i just want to plug having fun with your friends all summer long yeah that's fun everyone do it what i mean they could read you know what's really fun in the summer is to read the Chapo Guide to Revolution. That's true. Oh, that is a good book, a hardcover book that's available at fine booksellers and fine libraries nationwide.

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