Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Treehouse of Horror XI With Merritt K

Episode Date: January 27, 2021

For our first season 12 episode, we welcome back Merritt K from Fanbyte to discuss one of the weirdest Halloween eps ever! Homer dies and is trying to get to heaven, Lisa is reading fairy tales, and all humans fight all dolphins in a huge war for the fate of the Earth. Plus a ton of Tress MacNeille screaming! How does the horror hold up? And why did this air after Halloween? Listen to this week's podcast before George Cauldron arrives! Support this podcast and get dozens of bonus episodes by visiting Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons and becoming a patron! And please follow the new official Twitter, @TalkSimpsonsPod!

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and this is our chronological exploration of The Simpsons. Who else is here with me today, as always? Hey, it's Andrew Gilbert, and these podcasts take us away from the harsh realities of peasant life. It's true. And who do we have on the line? Frightened and horny. I'm Merritt Kay. And today's episode is Treehouse of Horror 11. Stupid orange goat.

Stupid flora poop. Today's episode aired on November 1st, 2000, just in time for Halloween. And as always, Henry will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh, my God. Oh, boy, Bobby. Eerie timing for the day that we're recording this because a handful of lucky Americans are getting their hands on a PlayStation 2 the same time that this comes out, as well as playing, I guess, Fantavision or Dynasty Warriors. SSX was the only thing to play in the year 2000. And of course, this week in the year 2000, we're just one week away from the presidential election of Bush versus Gore.

So an exciting week for the simpsons and also this is a i think we'll get into it a little bit but this is a wednesday date i am talking about not a sunday i forgot that it aired at odd time that's right yeah there's there's a lot about simpsons scheduling history for this uh this year's halloween horror but uh treehouse of horror but uh yeah this the playstation 2 i didn't even have one friend who got it in the year 2000 really they were so unavailable okay uh i think we were all just like well okay we were a dream cast house as well so i think losers if we couldn't just walk into a store and buy a PlayStation two, we're like, who needs that?

We've got fantasy star online. Okay. Yes. Yeah. I, I got one because I got like the last reservation at a Funko land, the worst name store in history in June. R.I.P. Yes.

It was part of the giant, like the multi tentacle beast of GameStop and Funko land and EB games and all the things they absorbed. But yeah, that was part of the giant, like, the multi-tentacle beast of GameStop and Funkoland and EB Games and all the things they absorbed. But, yeah, that was fun. Perhaps if you didn't get a PS2, you might have been playing Majora's Mask, which came out that same week. Ah, sorry. So that was a... That's what I was doing. Ooh, it's a great game. Counterprogramming, better than anything on the PS2 that launch.

No, that was such a great, like, weirdo game. Like, I think, folks, i don't think people didn't like majora's mask oh they hated it okay everybody i talked to as someone who loved the game they're like i hate that timer that game sucks people hated the timer and going back now i will say it is a little weird like it's kind of finicky there's a lot of stuff you have to get used to but if you dig deep in there you're gonna you're gonna find some great stuff all the masks that moon really spooky yeah scary that that game actually scared me a lot much like treehouse of horror episodes did when i was a kid and uh i mean they made a zelda game in 18 months what do you want from them that's true and the 3ds one is very good except for a

few things they kind of broke but that is like the preferred way to play the game. And break it, too, I guess. Snap it over your finger. When are they going to dump both of those, the Ocarina 3D and the Majora 3D, just onto the Switch? Just be like, there, you can have it. When they do the Zelda All-Stars 3D collection. Oh, yeah. Available for three weeks in the fiscal year 2023.

For $60. It'll cost $60. They'll both look like shit. They'll have a music player that only works when you turn on your switch and open the game it's great yep but hey welcome back to merit thank you it's so good is this what number three or four i think it's four i think it's four yeah wow the big four oh yeah because uh you did the rodney dangerfield episode the rodney dangerfield episode that's right uh you did natural born kissers and you did uh the jac episode from season one so you will get

your pocket watch in the mail we usually hand them out in person uh and uh yeah what's uh well what's going on with you these days merit everything fun at fanbite yeah you know i'm over at fanbite.com doing a lot of podcasts these days just doing a lot of podcasts i started a new show called the k-hole and uh that's kind of a weird interview show where uh i have people on and we we sort of just start talking and see what happens and yeah i think the third episode will be out by the time this episode is out and uh it's a lot of fun and if you go to podcastnet.work which is a weird url but podcastnet.work that's where all of our shows are but uh yeah i think this is the first time

that i watched a simpsons episode since the last time i was on the show oh wow even in this 2020 times you didn't i know you didn't turn to the simpsons for comfort just turn on the tap the simpsons tap yeah this i think i say this every year for the past four years, but I think this is my favorite Scully-era Halloween one. It's the filthiest and the most violent, and references to glory holes and sugar walls. The sugar walls reference just came out of nowhere for me. Yeah, and there was no cum jokes as far as I could tell,

so they missed one of the targets there. But, well, yeah, I guess I think we all were watching this when it aired live, perhaps. I know I was. Oh, I was. Yeah. I was not, shockingly. I was actually in Berkeley, one of my first trips to California, visiting a friend out here. That was before I lived here, of course.

And I didn't watch the episode. trips to california visiting a friend out here that was before i lived here of course and uh i didn't watch the episode but of course after it aired i used my friend's computer to look up all tv simpsons see what they were talking about and people were shocked at the level of filth this episode stooped to i think this is as far as they go filth well i think the 13 one is the the 12th treehouse i think pulls it back a little bit i think though i remembered enjoying this at the time but also i think i think i do think the scatologicalness maybe i was like boy these getting violenter and violenter every year these treehouses uh the gruesome deaths that like tress mcneil's characters suffer in the middle of this episode just the brutal screaming bloody murder yeah tress really earned her paycheck

this week on the simpsons but we have a bunch of new writers on this episode and so i don't bog down the front of the show with all their bios we're going to focus on rob lezebnik first and then when we get to insane clown posse we're going to talk about john frank and don payne who are writing partners or they were at the time so I want to talk about Rob Lezebnik first and would you believe this is going to be a big shocker he went to Harvard in the mid 80s and yes he wrote for the Harvard Lampoon whoa where did they find this guy yeah he came in the back door on this job and it might be a weird coincidence that's crazy slightly less shocking is that he started on HBO's Not Necessarily the News,

which is where a ton of Simpsons writers came from, like Ian Maxton Graham, Al Jean, Mike Reese, Conan O'Brien, Greg Daniels, and George Meyer. They all wrote for this, so they knew this guy. Wow. I need to watch that show just for Simpsons knowledge aptitude. One of his first sitcom gigs was a very traditional show, but I enjoyed it as a kid. It was Empty Nest, and he wrote 13 episodes between 1988 and 1993. one of his first sitcom gigs was very traditional show but i enjoyed it as a kid it was empty nest and he wrote 13 episodes between 1988 1993 a golden girl sister show not quite as classy

as golden girls but it was of the same old people miami vibe yeah no i like that show and i remember it had man i forget the actor's name but he was the susan harris favorite because he had been burnt on soap as well david leisure or uh yeah the old guy the old guy okay the old guy on the show he's because he was on soap and i love soap empty nest i didn't i didn't watch so much but he was great on soap yeah but it was a good he's a good like it was a great combo show with golden girls you're thinking of richard mulligan thank you richard mulligan thank you so before writing for the simpsons he created uh rob lezebnik he created two tv shows that no one has ever heard of so he created one of the original wb shows called muscle which was a parody of primetime soap operas like melrose place but it took place at a gym so there you have it that was his first

sitcom he created i have never heard of that show. And I was paying attention to the launch of the WB and every garbage show they had. But wow. You could really just write anything in that era. It sounded like they were buying. I'm jealous sometimes. Me too. Like it was a golden age of sitcoms.

People were buying every sitcom because the promise of a syndicated show once you hit 100 was just a payday. And everyone was reaching for that uh but yeah that was like the soft launch of the wb like in the spring of 95 i think the fall of 95 was their big uh proper debut but he created another sitcom in 1996 for abc called common law a uh vehicle for the late greg giraldo and he was a latino lawyer at a mostly white law firm nine episodes were produced but only four aired so there you go boy man i well i can see after those two things why elizabeth went into like staffing up on sitcoms instead of uh after the two i mean honestly

that he got to create two shows is pretty shocking yeah really greg daniels and mike scully are the only people to create uh shows that lasted on outside of the simpsons yeah really i know i know coda no brian yes yeah well i mean i know that's what uh sam simon like crapped all over the right he's like yeah nobody else for the simpsons created stuff it's like i don't think that's true but no i mean it's hard it's hard out there to create a tv show so i'm not sure what rob's uh status on the show was back in this day so he was a co-executive producer since 1999 uh he wrote two episodes in 2000 he wrote a segment of this one and also uh the prank monkey episode oh god i forget what that one's called but we're gonna get to it there you go yeah and then uh like he's been on the show since 99 but in the early

2000s he was also working on other stuff like ellen's second sitcom and also less than perfect so like two abc shows so i assume he still had like an abc deal he needed to get through while working on the simpsons that sounds about right a disney deal he had to work through while still there and we're gonna wrap this up real quick though but uh yeah he's been working on the show since 1999 uh his last episode was frank coin which aired in february of 2020 crypto episode exactly 17 episodes to date and he is one of five founders of the very short-lived icebox.com oh god icebox.com wow and that is why there is an episode based around web cartoons and that bubble bursting in 2001 or 2002 wow he got them the critic deal then i guess because he knew gene and reese or well yeah but i uh there were two other things i did learn

about lezebnik uh one is that he is brother-in-law of uh nell scoville who who we interviewed it's even more incestuous than i thought uh her nell scoville's sister claire scoville lezebnik is a novelist in her own right and so there that's uh that that's that connection and also i found out that lezebnik wrote the 2016 episode where smithers came out to burns okay and uh so smithers is no longer in the closet in case you're uh not still watching this did not know about that and lezebnik said he was inspired by his own son coming out to him and he's and he said that he he ran jokes by his his 21 year old gay son including like hey is this what tinder or sorry is this what grinder is and his his son was like yes that's kind of cute yeah but i mean

hey it's nice you know uh that he was honoring his his gay son that he loves his gay son as as the wonderful saying goes it's just good to see a 60 year old harvard graduate get work these days in this economy so hard he's uh but uh hey he's uh yeah he's a real simpsons lifer i'll just be nice to him in this one because i do think he wrote a good episode or good segment on here i will not be so nice on Homer versus Dignity I don't think but uh well another so another bit of news on this episode was when it aired because you've you've noted this before Bob this is the first of many tree houses to not air in October for about a decade yeah they would always air after um weird and because of baseball correct so weird. And because of baseball, correct?

It is almost always because of baseball, though. And it is for this one, too, but I did a little extra digging to really figure out why it happened. So the World Series that year, as just happened in the year 2020, the World Series also pushed the halloween special into november that was going to happen in october of 2000 but the yankees actually just swept the series in one in four games so had they not there would have been a game on sunday the last sunday of october but there wasn't uh so game four ended on thursday now you think, okay, then they're going to run the Halloween special on the Sunday. They've got the time.

But for some reason they didn't. It was all reruns. It was last year's Treehouse that aired on that Sunday and also Hilloween, they aired that as well. Then I'm like, well, wait, then it aired the next Sunday? No. The Tale of Two Springfields aired the next Sunday. This aired on Wednesdaynesday november 1st and i was like why the hell did that happen and it was because they wanted to

give a book a push to a big premiering show that was coming on their channel uh for the year 2000 uh though wouldn't help it out in the end it was normal ohio the john goodman starring show where he plays butch a gay man moving back in with his family which was created by or co-created by bob cashel a writer on the simpsons who had a bad time oh the fired man the fired bob cashel he went on to great success maren i don't know if you remember that uh that normal ohio show i only watched the first episode uh i will say you know as a uh as i guess i don't like the bear classification but i guess i would say i'm that in the gay community but i at least like that john goodman in the year 2000 you know there's there's all types of discourse about straight people playing gay roles but i did like seeing at the time that you know a non-traditional looking uh man playing a gay role and being about you know hey gay people aren't just this one type of stereotype there are another stereotype

i think most of the american public at that time thought like could you imagine that that was the premise for them like yeah could you think about it even for a second that they didn't take it like that unfortunately that i think is the one-two punch of it is that the world series they were prepared for a world series delay on sunday anyway and then they're like you know what let's just put it with the new john goodman show and maybe it'll boost its leading ratings as a lead in uh but normal Ohio did not last very long but uh so uh and I guess last production note I have on this is that technically this is still a season 11 production so in season 11 they produced two Halloween episodes they did the first episode of production season 11 was the 10th halloween special and one of the last ones i

think the last one is the final is this halloween special so an interesting it usually was that the tree houses came at the start of a production run but i think this started the new trend that it was one of the last things you do and it's a holdover to the next season as as happened in 2020 as well with the episode written by our our good buddy julia prescott just because they take so much longer to produce with everything going on in them they're very dense right right and uh this is our first one of season 12 crack back open those season 12 dvds i think i i had not watched my season 12 dvds in a long time i think they've got really great menus like the uh the comic con style of it

is is really good and it i guess actually made me nostalgic for 2009 when it came out it's funny yeah the commentary for this episode was recorded the day barack obama was elected president the first time it's not wow listening to that commentary as they're joking about like obama's in charge and prop 8 passed i'm like how times have not changed as i'm listening to this commentary in a celebratory mood of of uh trump being defeated but also prop 22 passing in california so bad propositions all around in the state of california uh so yeah it was all it was i'm not used to being nostalgic i on listening to those commentaries now. The Simpsons will be right back.

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monsters missed its chance to have a movie like the monsters was brought back more on television yeah because i think it was like a higher concept, but it never got a proper like ironic remake like The Addams Family did. I always hated the Munsters. I don't know why. I think they were, it was, it was, it would air in the mornings before I would go to school. And I think even then I was like, I just wish I was watching The Addams Family. Like, I hate this. Who are these people?

They just like, why does a Frankenstein and a Dracula make a wolf man? How does that work? Yeah. The Addams Family was the better show. And like the centerpiece of the show was the joke. What if a husband loved his wife and was sexually attracted to her? What if like there was just like a good heterosexual couple who are good parents and still really like into each other? They're freaks.

And yeah, they're freaks. and yeah they're freaks but like it's so good and i mean i'm certainly the tv show the older one had a what's his name as gomez uh john john astin yeah john astin who was great very different kind of portrayal of the role than uh royal julia later on also good yeah it's crazy like both the monsters and the adams family had like 70 episodes each and that's it yeah yeah and premiered the same year i had always thought one was the response to the other but they premiered at the same time but it was just in the the zeitgeist at the time i you know when i i was trying to deconstruct why i like the adams family more than the monsters too i think it is that the adams family are they're not monsters they're just weirdos they are, they're not monsters. They're just weirdos. They're like, they're not classifiable. They're just strange things.

And also, they love being outside society and just being strangers. Yeah, yeah. The monsters, they want to be part of society, especially their goody two-shoes daughter. They're conformists. Yeah, exactly. They're monsters who want to conform instead of enjoying being weirdos. But both have good theme songs. I think the Monsters one is the better one. they're they're monsters who want to conform instead of enjoying being weirdos but uh like both have good theme songs i think the monsters one is the better one this like weird like dick

dale surf rock song which was later used i think in a fallout boy yes so uh like five or six years ago do you know this henry i did okay i'm gonna send you a clip because i was sitting around in a bar probably in 2015 i'm just like i, I don't know, staring at a TV waiting for time to pass by. And I hear like, is that the Munsters theme? And I pull out my phone. I'm like did someone sample? You can't sample the Munsters theme. It's too iconic.

People will just think of a Frankenstein father. But no, Fallout Boy sampled it for the song Uma Thurman. What? Yeah. And I sent a clip for Henry to play Henry you don't know what the kids are listening to or were five years ago

yeah yeah what the hell yeah so like i was sitting in the bar and i was like oh this this pop song is starting whatever then the monsters theme pops in i'm like i just was knocked out of my chair i couldn't believe it i am in shock that that song exists i well i mean i also didn't know i guess i should have known fallout boy was writing the same type of music everyone else does now i'm just like well well good times yeah like i hope etc to be fair that that riff owns oh but it belongs to the monsters and you can't reappropriate that. I'm sorry. I also, it's funny that the Simpsons parody the Munsters shot for shot because the original

Munsters opening was a shot for shot parody of the Donna Reed show opening. Okay, yeah. I was thinking, like, I watched the first opening, and it was just so odd because it's just not Morticia, but Lily greeting people as they leave the house yeah yeah and grandpa almost kills her and and you end with the dad instead of starting with him because that's how it was in the donna reed show but yeah it's uh the first opening's not as funny especially if you don't have the donna reed show memorized which who does but but yeah this this simpsons opening i especially like the little

touches how like homer is like oh no and then just shakes his head like ah never mind and then wobbles his head just just like the the frankenstein man did in monsters i don't want to know their name fred gwynn he was in my cousin vinnie as the judge oh sure yes oh my god he was i just re-watched that movie like a week ago what a great character actor and and also the most main man who ever existed in pet cemetery sometimes dead is better see why didn't the frankenstein father just crush that zombie child yeah with his giant hands well you know the achilles tendon will take out even a frankenstein man as well if you go if you go for that that that scene that was one of like the grossest scenes ever okay this is weird uh fred gwynn went to harvard on the gi bill where he was affiliated with the adams house well honey i like that and

he's another harvard crony all these harvard guys i i guess it's name commemorates the services of the adams family not not the actual adams no no i don't uh well also i guess if president a rule on this talking simpsons too is if we mention the monsters we have to mention that al lewis was a proud socialist as well so good old grandpa grandpa yes oh good for him and and a greeter at his own restaurant of his own name that's right just living on the front just uh uh he was in it once too but it's just a guy who kind of looks like him i forget i wouldn't have been surprised if he was in gremlins 2 but everybody was uh and then i like uh i i do like that the parody ends with everyone being killed by the town and that when you see the corpses of everybody it is accurate how you kill those monsters because

grandpa and marge have stakes in their hearts because they're vampires homers on fire because frankenstein's a fire frankenstein monsters a fire and there's a bear trap on bart which i guess really he should have been shot with a silver bullet. Yeah, that's just hard to convey. But Butch Patrick was just on the show. That's right. Yeah. In the same production season. And also that like Lisa remained untouched, which it's not to say they never killed Lisa on the show.

But I feel like in Treehouse, she was the last to get killed and stuff. Which really, if you watch the most recent Treehouse, it's interesting because they do. It's the complete opposite. They do a Happy Death Day parody with Lisa in the lead. So you watch Lisa die a bunch of times and it was, it's kind of disturbing. And I also like she comes out holding a copyright law book. That's funny too. So we begin our first one with Good, Good, Good, Good Ghost, Da, Da, Da, Da, Dad.

Which obviously is a parody about a movie starring some guy in it it's a parody of that movie but also for the first 90 seconds it's a parody of final destination yeah i i wonder how that it came okay final destination came out six months before this movie this episode came out i wonder if like how if it's a coincidence or not it does it definitely feels like final destination for sure but yes the episode begins with homer reading his horoscope hey who cut out beetle bailey i need my miss buxley fix i don't like you ogling her why don't you be kathy she's hilarious eh too much baggage oh my horoscope torus today you will die what and you may get a compliment from an attractive co-worker. Lenny?

It really says die? That sounds unusually specific for a horoscope. Maybe I better check mine. Today your husband will die. Homer, I'm scared. Scary newspaper. Don't hurt me, horoscope. I'm afraid of...

Ow! Oh, paper cut. Don't hurt me, horoscope. I'm afraid of... Ow! Oh, paper cut! Paper cut! That wrist paper cut is horrifying. So just typing Miss Buxley into Google Image Search, the fourth, I'm sorry, third result is a naked drawing of her drawn by Mort Walker. This is very easy to find.

Apparently he made a print of her. So she's not just naked. She's also giant. And all of the male characters are crawling all over her. And Beetle Bailey is headed towards her private area with a ladder. He's like, I'm climbing in. I'm looking at this right now. And this is from an auction site, apparently.

Man, Moore Walker was ahead of the curve of like, that's what online comic strip artists do now. They're all like, I'll draw any character naked. You don't even have to ask me. I'll just do it. But Mort Walker was like, all right, finally I can sell some of these sexy drawings I've done in Miss Buxley for decades. Mort Walker was one of the hornier artists on the comic strip page in the in the last 50 years for sure and miss and miss buxley was his blonde bombshell of a character who get this she was a

sexy secretary of an old man it's uh it's of the i'm stopping my secretary jokes era and you'd have to use the word stopping uh yeah you couldn't use any other i love uh comic strips like this where like all the guys are drawn like fucking gremlin monsters with like no eyeballs and huge noses and then like you can tell like the women are drawn like they're a different fucking species yes it's like uh like every comic strip like this is the exact same way like i don't know high and lowest or like well i can't think of any of them because they're all pretty terrible hagar hagar every man's hagar i i would have loved to have seen the challenge for mort walker to be like mort here's a thousand dollars draw a sexy man just give it a shot i don't think he could but like i love that homer is he's like the millions of men who were reading

beetle bailey just to see like occasional strip where miss bucksley like bent over or something showed a bit of thigh yeah again people are very horny for miss bucksley he did high and lois as well i didn't realize that oh yeah he occasionally i think he'd do a little bit of horniness with lois as well i i'll admit i read the mort walker like a mort walker book growing up as a kid in the library. And he, as the creator of High and Lowest, makes comic book guy laugh. That's right. Important fact about him. I like that Homer rebuffs the suggestion of reading Kathy because it doesn't make him horny enough.

He needs too much baggage. Yeah. And Homer, looking at his horoscope, says he's a Taurus. That does fit with the Homer driver's license that we saw in Dufflis. It showed that in that his birthday was May 12th. So that would fit with being a Taurus. Just like me. Oh, wow. But not May 12th, May 7th.

You're close. You're close to birthday twins. I don't know astrology, so I don't know what that means. And also I like that Homer doesn't care that he's told he's going to die, but is excited that Lenny might compliment him. I like that Homer kind of is into Lenny and is waiting for Lenny to throw something back at him. Lenny is becoming... Everyone's into Lenny. Yeah, it's true.

Lenny has become like a breakout character in the past two seasons. We're finding so many new angles of Lenny. Yeah, I know later in this episode to have a funny joke with lenny they actually screw up their lenny carl combo for jokes later so they have to uh it's uh but but in this one then it's just a series of jokes of homer almost killing himself a paper cut on his wrist like there's there's worse gross stuff in this episode but that's the one that gives me the the shivers Then they have a joke about Planet Hollywood being torn down, which I feel like is another of their bashing the guys at Planet Hollywood for the people who run it tricked the Simpsons

into writing a spec script because they're like, oh, we'll definitely get you the big stars if you write a Planet Hollywood episode. We'll get you Arnold and Bruce and Stallone. And then they did it and then they're like no no no we're not doing i think they also offered that to duck man because duck man had a thing with those guys in it but it wasn't them yeah that's right yeah so they're just shopping around this idea to every animated sitcom in like 1995 scam wow uh and so yes homer's driving around he almost gets crushed by a great animation on the car

being crushed in half and then the pickaxe smashing into his head uh and his brain damage line that we that we heard at the start that was great and so now homer then heads into the office and that's where he he finally hears he almost hears what he wanted to from lenny homer if i may compliment you yes go on that is one handsome rattlesnake you got biting your arm there yeah almost hears what he wanted to from Lenny. horoscope with baloney nothing happened except for the pickaxe in my head the rattlesnake bite and the testicle thing what's for dessert no dessert until you eat your broccoli oh fine so homer is killed by broccoli uh this this again feels like more of these punishing Marge for if Marge asks Homer to do a good thing, the worst possible outcome happens. It almost feels like, say, writers mad at their wives for telling them to exercise or eat vegetables.

But also I like what you can imagine from the testicle thing. What happened there? But I also really like Dan's delivery on like uh letty complimenting you like yes i guess he choked to death on well from what himbert says it seems that broccoli is like literally poisonous i try to warn people with its terrible taste i think flavor you know i've i've gotten more into broccoli this year i i wasn't a big fan of it i i'm like homer i'm bad at eating

my greens but i i learned that i wasn't like seasoning uh broccoli and putting any other flavors on top you can do that with food i it's this revolutionary thing i've learned recently and uh and of course i love air frying them that's the henry air fryer reference uh for the episode let's see oh yeah so then good gag of uh them joking around homer's corpse in front of the kids i like that they're just the it's easy when they're they're stiff like this and very sad uh so i i watched all the deleted scenes on this one uh and the first one that they made a big cut on is homer flying up to heaven he's almost hit by a plane then he tries to sneak past saint peter uh and he also says something like oh i never told march how much i loved

notting hill then there's a joke that they kind of re-edit into the this but he pretends to be ned flanders and then say peter's like no he's not supposed to die yet he dies next tuesday and then homer's like ah see what that clean living got you Flanders that got cut and they turned it into the joke we do see he's like I beat you to heaven Flanders so that was like the remnant of an of like half of a joke yes yeah I I honestly think all these they they made big cuts there's like a 90 seconds of cuts in here and I think it really was all just to make room for kang and kodos at the end but yes homer arrives in heaven saint peter got to heaven before you flanders i wouldn't celebrate so soon mr simpson i don't see a single good deed next to your name

well the thing about that is... Ow! Homer, settle down. I'll give you a chance to get into heaven. You have 24 hours to go back and do one good deed. I'm sorry, I didn't get the number of hours or good deeds.

Ah! Oh, homie, I still can't believe a piece of broccoli killed you. What the hell was I thinking? I tried the broccoli again. You have 23 hours left. I like the amount of time they waste by Homer's ghost dying. Yes.

And then a ghost flies out of his ghost. That's pretty good. Pretty good. I do like the commentary that Matt Salmon kind of craps on. Then I'm like, oh, boy, a St. Peter joke. Never seen that in a comedy before. He should be grading uh should be greeting ruth bader ginsburg and black panther and alex trebek wouldn't it be fun if they all

play jeopardy in heaven together i bet they don't want to see their loved ones i bet ruth bader ginsburg wants to be 90 in heaven yeah oh yeah she has to be the age she died at for sure we're talking about bad political cartoons by the way yes yeah oh they're all high-fiving john mccain oh yeah they're fist bumping oh my god sorry sorry that's all i can think of when i see saint peter is whenever a celebrity dies it is like you get to just day drink as a political cartoon it's just like my my day is like half over i already got my idea uh you you would have figured that those great gene kelly the kelly comics and onion that did all of those for like the last eight years you'd think that would have taught the actual cartoonist to be like all right i won't do a heaven thing i'm not i'm not gonna do heaven stuff anymore but nope it's it's worse than ever

i'd say oh yeah so there's also another deleted scene right before homer eats the broccoli he gets mad that bart is crying because crusty got preempted not because he's dead and he tries to strangle bart but can't so it's it's all right joke there so here's a big theory i have about this saint peter thing i think homer was always going to fail with it and this is actually the first part of your damnation suffering is they trick you into thinking you get one more shot and you are definitely going to fail and get sent to heaven anyway thus making your suffering even worse but yes homer comes back he greets marge i love his ghost voice to her dead wrong that's so that's okay that he thinks he has

to talk that way as it goes he's seen a lot of movies and also i like that the uh as she suggests like just do chores he says that i'm not trying out for jesus another good line uh so then we come to i think my biggest gut laugh in the episode is him helping agnes i think yeah uh apparently she was supposed to be dropped onto the boy scouts flag and be impaled by it but they thought that was a little too far there are some violence gags they cut out that are deleted scenes in this yeah though that agnes one is not that you don't see the impaling is not on the deleted scenes on the dvd but you can totally see the scout the lead scout has a flagpole with a big point on it so i think they must have animated it does every tress m McNeil voice character get murdered horribly in this episode?

It really feels like it. And then she has to find a new way to scream to her death like four different times in here. But yeah, no, Agnes is, let's hear Agnes' death. Okay, good deed, good deed. Hello. Hey, a chance for a good deed. Oh, she's mine. Oh, my Lord.

What's happening to me? People can see up my bustle. Hey, stop storming. I'm pretty sure she was going to be the next Hitler. Hello? Good deed done oh god her i mean her fault like homer picks her up so high like they're only crossing the street yeah it's uh and then he thinks and then he thinks he can get away but if he says like i think she was gonna be the next hitler so that was actually a good deed I did. Am I?

Is this over? I mean, I think, though, the idea that she offscreen just smashed into, like, two cars and probably killed somebody else. Like, that's also a pretty violent death. This is a horrific episode. Yes. I guess they pick Agnes because it's like she is such an awful person in the show that maybe you don't feel too bad at this innocent woman being murdered by Homer. But God, just the sound, the sound of the squish. Like, God.

So next scene, Homer is drinking a squishy that's dropping through him as he walks, which that's pretty great. It's about like, I think, just paralyzing Edna and Frank. Yes. Yeah. They broke their necks on the on the uh pavement and i don't think that was a marsha wallace scream on edna i do think it's subbed in there uh but uh he then comes upon nelson torturing bart uh with the taunt your dad is dead

mine's just in jail it's a really great joke that homer thinks he can save him and then he just gets noogies as well and and bart just awkwardly runs away like that's really posed really well i love that they they say on the commentary they weren't sure if they wanted it to be that bart could see his dad or not so he just awkwardly walks away he would just save from noogying just don't question it and what i mean all he's seeing is nelson doing that to air right like nelson though has like paranormal powers he can touch the undead that's a different uh trios of horror segment uh so homer almost out of possible good deeds he could do uh he's sitting at the bottom of the stairs we then get a whole badass battleship patimkin thing you know what i was surprised that they didn't take it as far as they uh as they normally would uh because they didn't

kill a baby i mean in terms of the parody like it's barely that like it's not even like a shot for shot thing i was waiting for the iconic shot but i don't think they ever really get to it yeah i think uh they they just kind of speed through it it's more just like a setting and it's like it's also the untouchables theme though of course i didn't know any of these things when i first saw this scene parodied the naked gun i think it was oh you're right three and a third it was the opening gag in that which it was like 17 strollers kept falling down and it's all just in slow motion i like that homer doesn't even do it through wanting to he's just like shut up baby this crap's a stranger's baby yeah and we get to see the mangled stroller burst into flames it's

real this is a real things bursting into flames era of comedy and so homer thinks he saved the day but uh turns out saint peter wasn't watching oh it's a miracle! Thank heavens! Woohoo! Did you see that? I did indeed! Open up! Oh, I'm so sorry. I wasn't looking. Hey, I thought you guys could see everything. No, you're thinking of Santa Claus. Well, I'll be damned.

I'm afraid so, yes. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! I am Homer Simpson Silence sinner Prepare for an eternity Of horrible pain

Oh no Be quiet You'll wake up John Wayne I'm already up That's a great joke to end the act on uh i love it's a great impersonation of john wayne too i like that uh he's a character in his movies with his like old kettle of coffee that he's been drinking just to infer that he's uh in hell it's a fun subversive joke yeah they sort of wink at it on the commentary but the year this commentary was recorded they did tree

house 19 which has a bit about celebrities mad that they're in advertising and it's you see celebrity heaven john wayne is in celebrity heaven there so they i i prefer to think of john wayne in celebrity hell myself it was either uh there was a funny joke on either family guy or american dad i think it was american dad where they inferred that jim henson is in hell oh man it was like he knows why he knows what he did they won't tell you why why he's in hell but he's just there though the devil design you know it's it's not ned but it's also not the one that they introduced in season two like it's this new yeah kind of weird generic buff devil guy i think it's the devil from

whatever that mascot was in the uh the 50 foot eyesores yeah yeah segment i forget whatever he was the like devil ham or something like that but uh it's that guy yeah and i i checked too it's also basically that design on the devil's advocate machine that comes in so that's an insane clown poppy which airs two episodes after this one but actually is produced before this one so i i wonder if they they pulled out the old one from the season eight treehouse and they used it in the design of devil's advocate and they're like you know what let's we got this devil why why are we making two devils also i mean the season two devil doesn't look like a normal character in season 12 no but i love that design that wormy little devil no i guess they do for the thread of this scene you need a big buff devil to

to torture you not uh not a a dorky one who talks about like when the braves are going to win the world series that was a a fun little one about homer being dead also there was they've done multiple ones where a character is dead and has to say do something to get back like there was the 2018 season finale was the one where Bart's in a coma, but he thinks he's dead and he's a ghost who has to do stuff. And that one ended with Maude Flanders' ghost commanding that Bart kill Homer as revenge for Homer killing her. Which, again, it was all non-canonical, though,

because it was a dream. It was a coma dream by Bart. Sure. All right, so. Still very weird. So this next one is the fairy tales one's just a generic collection of fairy tales which uh i think it's fun you know you can't yeah okay there's some good lines yeah just doing one of them wouldn't stretch enough

over a full thing and so uh but they also they got to start with like rocky and bull ankle fractured fairy tales and then up the satire far beyond that, which involves like child murder and the like to really make it work here. So, yeah, we start with the fun, like wood carving image of a fairy tale book and part watching the fire like it's a TV. I think one thing we get for the first time on these Treehouse of Horrors is that the writer of the segment segment their name appears yeah which didn't happen before you should get like just a shotgun blast of names up front you're right yeah normally it is especially when you'd have like five writers because you'd have like two different writing combos it would just flash on screen the entire shot like the the start of treehouse four bright green dripping font uh i think it's better since they're gonna do a title card for each segment anyway just get the writer's name underneath it yeah uh this is

this is don payne and john frank who will again yeah bob said we'll talk more about them and insane clown poppy which also was produced before this one so that's that's a legitimate order yes finally professor frank is writing on the show it's true he really he really is the reason they name that character Frank but anyway yeah so Lisa has the fairy tale book in the world of fairy tales basically a cheat code for the entire segment and uh I do think Bart saying he's gotten the plague and just got over that that hits different in 2020 than it did in the year 2000 Homer comes comes in to announce he's not so happy. He got fired from his oaf job. Who's up for a Mary chick?

Oh, who am I kidding? I'm not Mary. I lost my job as an oaf today. What? Oh, why are the oafs always the first to go? Maybe you could be a dunce, father. Really? Hey!

What do you think? Do you love it? Oh, I'm no dunce. I was born an oaf and I'll die an oaf. But husband, without your weekly pittance, how shall we feed our children? Don't worry. No child will ever starve in my home. So long, kids. Enjoy your new home. Say hi to your other brother and sister.

Other brother and sister? Face it, they're not great parents. I love whenever we see Bart and Lisa's skeletons and the skeleton also has their hair shapes that's great yeah and also that like perfect clones of them were born before they were born which i love too and uh bill oakley a while ago on twitter he determined that oaf is the funniest like comedic insult word yeah it's a great sounding word. It's one syllable. It's got that F sound, which is funny. It's got two vowels in a row. It packs a lot of

funny sounds into one word. It's a good period at the end of an insult that you can go like, you stupid oaf. Just cutting off the air like that. There's a deleted scene there Marge says why is it the

oafs who are the first to go Lisa corrects her and says it's oafs but at least according to Wikipedia both are correct it can be oafs or oafs because it's like loaf

right I guess it follows the same rule an old-timey joke so we're at the launch of the xbox series x on this podcast we're recording as it launches uh an old-timey joke on the internet was you call the plural of xbox is xboxen like oxen oxen i'm explaining to you a joke from the message boards of 2000 and i missed out on that i like that xbox and i xbone i miss talking about the xbone now it's like what do you say this i guess you call it the sex is that what you call it sex bone yeah the xx uh the homer they get away with i like that marge and homer get to be cruel awful parents in this one and it just about how uh you know you live to be cruel awful parents in this one and just about how uh you know you live to be 30 back then and your children are just your you know slaves basically and you throw them out if you can't feed

i was also thinking like this is doing shrek better than shrek did uh like a year before shrek yeah this is uh yeah shrek's may 2001 we're so close to the 20th anniversary. What if a fairy tale was twisted and made fun of Michael Eisner? Yeah, this doesn't grind as many axes with other executives. Not to say they're... Definitely some personal axes were grinded in this segment, though,

as we'd find out from the commentary. So the kids start walking through the forest. They first come upon a troll under a bridge. And I really love Moe as a troll design. Oh, it's so great. I'm so desperately lonely. That's become Moe's catchphrase since the Love Manic Grandpa. Yeah, he gets both his catchphrases in here.

Desperately lonely. And wah. And he's like, yeah, he has the giant troll doll hair. That's great, too. I'm glad he has clothes on and is not nude and genital free like those troll dolls. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. We care about you.

Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? So then we get a riff on the three bears, which I swear is a joke. I've seen there have been a million three bears parodies for like 200 years. But I don't think I've ever seen a joke about combining the hot and cold porridge to make them good. No, yeah. That was an innovating in the bear space, I think.

Yeah, it's really good. It's so clever. Like, oh, yeah, it's hot and cold together make warm. Just do that for your giant pile of porridge. As they're home, though, they realize that the bears are coming back too. Hmm, bowls of porridge. Oh, this seems somehow familiar. Let's see.

Hmm. Oh, whoa, too hot. Hmm, hmm. Oh, too cold. Well, this doesn't take a genius. We're in a three-bear's house! That was close. I wonder where Goldilocks was. Oh, that bed was just right.

Oh, no! Oh, no! Oh, God. It's so grisly. A lot of grisly screams in this one yeah it's uh i the impact is double listening just hearing it instead of seeing it you can just imagine the death blow oh that that i mean the cruelty that bart and lisa trapped her in there too that she probably could have gotten away but it also makes me think this is also a bit inspired by the movie Scream because Lisa knows the rules of fairy tales I think you're right I think you're right yeah she's so she's the Jamie Kennedy of this then far less irritating I I love the design of the bears and they come in like regular cartoon

bears even singing the teddy bear picnic song. But the second they see Goldilocks, they become basically the scary bears that yell at Maggie in the season one camping episode. Oh, yeah. According to the commentary, Scully didn't just like that it was just screaming on the door. He wanted blood to come out from under it too so uh and god the tress she screams when she's pretending to be a little girl and an old lady she screams different like that's just tres mcneil one of the greatest voice actors of her generation like then the witch scream is different than the agnes scream yeah you're right she does like five different shades of old lady that's her skill yeah i mean agnes witches and mom from

futurama entirely different old lady voices oh and then there's night i didn't even name a nice old lady but she's also good at being a nice old lady too i guess that's both types of mom uh nice fake mom on futurama and mean mom in futurama uh but so yeah they abandoned Goldilocks to be killed we then cut to Homer and a real runner in production season 11 is hand dusting off jokes as we recall in the last treehouse when Homer dumps Ned's body that's the end of that chapter walks away dusting his hands and uh and in last Dance in Springfield, Wiggum says, oh, that's the end of the giant rap. He dusts off his hands. They go say, well, wait, are you sure?

What about getting the giant cats back in? He's like, I believe I did. So we're out of the pennant phase into the hand dusting phase of runners. I especially love how Homer puts it as like dumping your kids in the forest. Sure. It makes your hands dusty. But Marge finds out that she's very disappointed, says we could have sold them, which I love that Marge gets to be bad. Yeah, it's great.

And Maggie is currently for sale in the window. Yes. Marge has to be nice sometimes. One of my favorite Scully era tree houses is when Marge is the witch. Julie Kavner gets to cackle and triumphantly murder people. That's fun. What season is the vampire one where they think Mr. Burns is the vampire? Season five.

Yeah. And then Marge is. Yeah. And I do have a life outside of this house you know uh yeah julie needs to get to have more i i think she really enjoys being evil too so and then another like truly disgusting joke of homer saying i know we could make some more kids oh so so gross the kind of stuff they can only get away with in a treehouse uh and so homer walks off into the woods he says i'm ever so sorry and uh he runs into rapunzel and then we get another horrifying joke of homer trying to climb up her hair ripping her ripping her scalp off

which hits the ground with a squish and then he he just pushes it aside under a bush. That's more screaming. I didn't want to play that one. Is that more Tress McNeil? I think it is. You know what? Let's hear it. I think it is more Tress McNeil screaming. I pray you, climb up and rescue me. Ow! No! Wait! Wait! it's even worse when you're yeah it's worse hearing it yeah

we're all on the same page here good sound design on that squish hitting the ground of a that's like a bowl of spaghetti hitting the ground oh god yeah i uh so there is a hidden deleted scene on the dv DVD from this scene as well, where after Homer walks away whistling, the actual knight from the fairy tale shows up. And he's like, Rapunzel, I'm here. And good Christ, that's just wrong. I would bet it got cut because it said good Christ. Probably.

But also it's like, I don't know, that's a hat on a hat. You've already had the Homer cruelty like i don't know that's a hat on a hat you've already had the homer cruelty you don't uh you don't you don't need that reaction slamming the door on that joke is a better way to go the kids then run into a witch and you know what she seems pretty trustable they head inside and that's why it's the one time lisa does not read her book which is pretty great too uh they they then head head in and things aren't going so well for them. Sleep faster. It's almost time for your beating. Oh, this is horrible.

Horribly delicious. You know, she's only fattening you up so she can eat you. What are you going to do? Well, at least stop basting yourself stop your chattering and sleep this house is filthy so what do you care it's not like you have friends I have a boyfriend yeah oh yeah what's his name George. Cauldron. George Cauldron? Maybe he can fix me up with Ed Ladoll. That's it! It's to the upper with you! No!

No! What? Sugar wall. Father, I know you'd rescue us. Who'd rescue you? Stuff myself with candy. It's all good. I don't like that I know George Cau rescue us. I'll rescue you, stuff myself with candy. It's all good. I don't like that I know George

Cauldron is real now because that was an amazing payoff later in this episode. And I have a link to the music video for Sugar Walls by the one and only Sheena Easton. Okay. Let me pull it up here.

Which Sonic level is this? Okay. Oh my god. Sonic has passed sugar wall zone act two and you're telling me that's a euphemism of some kind when she says my sugar walls and i don't see it well i also like that the the next video that youtube suggests when i go to that is raspberry beret which well yeah so they get away like they really got away with something they're using sugar walls to i guess technically they are walls made out of sugar so homer yeah but uh so that george cauldron bit i love that lisa these are kind of jokes lisa never gets to do either of like mocking somebody yeah i like her little i like her little sure yeah uh though uh the george

cauldron is also a brady bunch joke because no way yeah in uh in a season four episode jan lies that she has a boyfriend they're like you don't have a date she's like yeah his name's george george glass because she sees a glass so it's uh it's fully a brady bunch joke as well okay and uh there's also another great joke on the commentary of grading seeing bart eating uh he says like oh that's the writer's room oh jesus christ uh because the writers are famous for uh jeff martin actually just had a great quote recently saying like he remembers being in the writer's room as sitting all day and watching your friends get uh progressively older and fatter i i also like that the homer eats a load-bearing candy cane i like any time a simpsons joke can joke about a load-bearing anything i enjoy that

load-bearing candy cane load-bearing poster these are the classic load-bearing jokes i didn't know things could bear loads and uh in a construction way uh also uh there's a deleted scene where when homer busts through the wall he gets called an oaf by the witch and he goes like oh i'm not uh i'm not there i'm not a clumsy oaf just yet but thanks for the compliments uh it also feels very the year 2000 to hear Homer say, it's all good. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. People don't say that anymore because, I mean, nothing is good, but slang has evolved. Should we try to bring it back?

It's all good. Let's wait for things to be good. At least partially good. Well, that's never going to happen, Bob. Come on. I'll say it ironically when things aren't good. I like the creature that homer gets turned into progressively by the witch when she's casting spells at him and he gets turned into something

that kind of reminds me of like mr sparkle because he has a fish for a head and he's like half chicken and brooms for arms yeah pretty good i think he even speaks like fake japanese when he gets turned into fish head oh Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. I that had to be, I think, at least on the artist side, an intentional reference to the half of Mr. Sparkle. That's the Matsumura Fishworks or whatever. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think he got donkey ears because that's Pinocchio. I think. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a real like duck amok style creation. It's great. Yeah, definitely. Oh, man. It's a real, like, duck-a-muck style creation. It's great. Yeah, definitely.

Oh, man, and the animators, Matt Nastic and his team, the animation on his chicken strut, like, they have to invent... Oh, it's great. They invent this entirely new character for Homer, and then he has to, like, have broom arms that still have to move

like chicken wings as he struts around. And the brooms are like fantasia right yes yeah you're totally right yeah homer's having a final battle with her he gets his head stuck in the oven and he is uh he loves the smell of his own cooking flesh it's a classic like uh bugs bunnies in a pot yeah you're right yeah it's a good variation out of this time man what smells so good doc uh in that one it's like that works on a certain level because it's like oh the the bath is heating up and then but in this case it's like your head is shoved in an oven and you forget that you your head wasn't it wait is there isn't there another

halloween episode where homer's head gets turned into a donut and then he's like eating his own head yes that was the other time he went to hell and in the treehouse four yeah so you're right not only is it a homer likes this taste of his own head but also a homer goes to hell one but he's not picking like fish flesh off of his head and eating it that would be a little too much even for this episode uh it'd be hard to animate that too with his broom arms though picking off pieces of true yeah but we have a have a different self eating joke that comes after that. But but yes, if you guys aren't had your fill yet of hearing Tress McNeil scream in pain, this is the cherry on top.

I think the best one in the fourth time so far. Yes. OK. I you know, I don't think she does it in the third act. So I think this is the last one we're going to hear. Just a minute oh god no let me out I couldn't be in more pain hello I'm George Cauldron. Is Suzanne ready yet?

Almost. Just give her another 20 minutes. But the concert's at 8. Well, we're still poor, but thanks to your father, we'll never go hungry. Speaking of which, how about seconds? Coming up. Get on straight. hungry speaking of which how about seconds coming up you know what i would have ended the act in this segment with but the concert's at eight yeah that's that's a stronger last laugh i guess yeah it's like i guess it's like a little because like you think like oh they're just gonna eat the candy house forever but then like no homers still have chicken i guess i guess they like the shitting out the yeah i mean they just

really loved it yeah i mean dan does a good job of making um pushing sounds with homer and his birth of his eggs but like they they ended act one with like an out of nowhere john wayne joke i like this out of nowhere payoff to george cauldron and like he's a regular guy and the witch's name is suzanne he reminds me of like a huge ass character where the fake name is real and he's just a regular cool guy and i want to hang out with george cauldron you know george is going to blame himself if he ever finds out that ringing the doorbell distracted Suzanne and defeated her. And Suzanne is named after Don Payne's real life sister. So he enjoyed doing that.

I should say the late Don Payne and no longer with us, sadly. But yeah, the reveal of George Cauldron, I especially, I really do love his just very realistic put upon this, like the concert's at 8. We're going to miss the concert. What is a concert in this fable time? So, too, I guess like a... Some sorts of lutes and lyres. Oh, like a bard.

Yeah. A bard, just sort of vibing. Yeah, just flipping out on the lute. Yeah. But at least the wood-carving image homer pooping out an egg is at least it's a funny drawing but the bigger laugh was the concerts at eight yeah you're right uh so then we come to the third segment which i have extra notes on deleted things in this because there's a lot they did picture and picture animatic as well okay on the uh on the commentary

so there's even stuff that got cut the a couple things that got cut or added from storyboard uh that i will remark upon when it comes but uh so now we're on to night of the dolphin the title at least is a parody of day of the dolphin right yeah yeah which it's a pair it's a michael mike nichols buck henry george c scott film about training dolphins to do assassinations and apparently it's not a comedy though it has to if Buck Henry and Mike Nichols doing something it has to be a comedy right but the wiki says not a comedy he just sci-fi this I love the poster for this movie because the tagline sticks on my head it's a picture of like George C. Scott in scuba gear and the tagline is unwittingly

he trained a dolphin to kill the president of the United States ah man I can't believe I did that well 70s that's you know that was like when John C. Lilly was doing all that weird stuff with dolphins and trying to talk to them so dolphins were in the zeitgeist yeah you're right

when they flooded that house and that lady lived with that dolphin and allegedly did stuff with that dolphin oh my dear so uh you could train a dolphin to kill this accident this is the end of dolphin jokes i feel like sea quest was like five years before this and yeah it was also like late 90s like uh sneering at environmentalism like our what if dolphins were bad and we should kill them those sort of wait sorry paul stravino is in the day of the dolphin oh wow that had to be early in his career right yeah yeah 1973 paul sorvino is born in what the okay yeah no he's in his 20s or how handsome is a young paul

sorvino i wonder i wonder bob i think you're right that this comes from the same place as most Lisa episodes in this era, which is to punish Lisa for believing in something. Yeah. In this case, it's like, oh, you wanted to save the dolphins? Well, actually, they're the attackers, and now that justifies us killing dolphins for a bunch of time on this episode uh and just also it's about making lisa say i'm sorry for caring i guess that's also what it's about yeah the episode begins in marine world a i guess a meeting of marine land and sea world uh though i love i love the subtitle of it no longer educational like that that's great and we see snorky riding around in

his hula scoot skirt and lay and uh you got to give it to frank welker in this one he has to play so many dolphins every dolphin there's a couple times where it's just they use the regular dolphin squeak sound that we hear in every cartoon but a lot of times it's just frank welker making the noise that you're like wait this is like frank welker like megatron frank welker that's right yep yeah he's he's a master of animal noises like famous animals he's played are like abu on aladdin like any kind of monkey or cat or dog like if there is a santa's little helper uh focused episode he was curious george he was nibbler nib He was Curious George. He was Nibbler. Nibbler too.

Yeah. Even the speaking voice of Nibbler. Yeah. In a normal episode, if Santa's Little Helper is going to bark like twice, then they just tell Dan Castellanelli to do it. Or say Chewie. Yeah. That's a good one. But otherwise, if there's going to be a lot of barking, you get Frank Welker.

Yeah. Frank Welker, Megatron and Transformers, Freddy Jones and Scooby-Doo. Slimer. Slimer. Slimer, yeah. Slimer comes from the same place as sounds. I've said it before. He's in his 70s. You know, when he, let's just say, retires, it's going to be a tough time for voice acting

because they're going to have to hire like 17 people to do all the animal noises he makes well uh peter cullen who was optimus prime played uh a horse not a talking horse just like a regular horse in uh the cartoon show adaptation of uh what's it called dragon's quest no that f fmv laser oh dragon's la, Dragon's Lair. Dragon's Lair, yeah. I didn't know he was a horse. He was a horse called Bertram. I can assure you that Welker and Culler are probably auditioning for that same role. He out-horsed me! Well, I mean, you brought it up

on the last horse episode at Simpsons, but Welker was busy, and so Jim Cummings did the horse dunk oh god so there are like three existing horse guys you can bring in three horse guys yeah all in their 70s now i think or or pushing it yeah so snorky is performing and everybody rushes into the water to destroy snorky and torture him uh and i will say there is a disgusting deleted scene oh here i miss this scene um they all and when everyone's rushing into their wigum rushes into with ralph

and pushes past everybody and ralph puts his finger in the blowhole of snorky and the joke is that it's gross and that wigum's like we're gonna go wash this hand and i was like i don't like to see ralph put his finger in a blowhole it's kind of disturbing i'm glad that they cut that so but if you have your season 12 dvd break it out and you can give it a watch see many blowholes get a fingered oh god it sounds bad. And I also like the joke too that the marine world calls everybody away to their lobster tank because they kill lobsters every day and feed them

to you. They're warming up the lobster tank so you can pet them before you eat them. But then Lisa gets a moment alone with Snorky and decides it's time to help. Oh, Snorky. Folks, we're heating up the lobster tank tank so hurry on over if you want to pet them before you eat them it's okay they're gone now you could hey where are you going

you want to be with your friends and lisa decides to let it go i i love when the guards show up they're like it's getting away kill it yeah now if i was in the comedy police i would pull these guys over and i would say do you know how old this reference is sir do you realize how old this reference is because the Simpsons already did it and it was better seven years earlier they did yeah and he crushed our boy yeah yeah the free will

came out in 1993 yeah it's so old it's yeah like and it did not have the like cultural staying power like recently we did a South Park episode for what a cartoon like recently we did it we did a south park episode for what a cartoon our other podcast in which they did a lion king parody uh six years after the movie came out but it was a good enough parody of an iconic enough scene that it worked i

don't think this stayed in the cultural memory a memory nearly as long i don't want to blame aljean on every bad movie reference but I do feel like this is his like, well also cause critic did a free Willy joke, like the same year Simpsons did. And it was the same joke. It was the, which is like the joke you would make is, Oh,

it didn't clear the child and hits it. At least in this case, there's at least really good animation on the slow-mo of Lisa being smacked in the face with a wet dolphin tail. But it's, yeah, at the very least on the commentary, Scully recognizes, yeah, we did it in season five. We know. All right. Forget it.

I had a cracked magazine and the cover was feed Willie. And instead of crushing the boy, he eats the boy. Good joke. That's good. That's good. You get you get a title pun as well the the dolphin gets away i love that they have just an incredibly long subtitle dolphin conversation that includes lines like they made me do tricks like a common seal and then

and then they even subtitle inaudible whispers i i love that gag. But they have decided it's time to turn on the world and starting with Lenny in a scene reminiscent of the first scene in Jaws. Alcohol and night swimming. It's a winning combination. Sharks, the assassins of the sea hey you're not sharks you're dolphins the clowns of the sea oh oh hey what's the gag oh just a look into lenny's life he just he goes out alone at night to drink from a flask while swimming i gotta say like a winning combination is one of those lines that i just find myself

using all the time and totally forgot that it came from this episode uh it's it's a winning combination is a great way to present anything it's like it's a winning combination it's a winning combination is a great way to present anything. It's like, it's a winning combination. It's either that or a duet of pleasures. As Martin would say, I just, I also love the idea of like, you just surfaced from the water. Like you're still kind of wet and that you have a, a,

you then drink liquor as you're doing it. And I, and I don't mean it in a sexual way, but I do like to imagine Lenny is naked it's like a skinny dipping tube for extra fun I guess also that's because the girl in the opening of Jaws is skinny dipping

when she's eating so maybe that's why I imagine Lenny naked we all imagine Lenny naked there's no shame in it I would love to see a nude Lenny if we could generate that but it has to be drawn by somebody who worked on the show it can't just be all these fake

I never see a nude Lenny you know in the 90s and 2000s I feel like I don't know if it's still the case but like you'd always get these ads on websites you know websites that were like see Simpsons porn and it was like who is

obsessed with this? Who is the market for this? There's never a nude Lenny. There's never like a Lenny Carl kind of. I bet if we Googled for nude Lenny, he'd be huge. And the other female Simpsons characters will be crawling on him. And Marge will be running at his privates with a ladder.

See, I did just Google nude Lenny. And you do just get a lot of real life women. But then also Lenny Kravitz. Oh, yeah. I figured, yeah. Because his penis exploded out of his pants one time. Nude Lenny Simpsons. Does that do anything?

You get a screen cap of Homer imagining Lenny in the shower. Okay. All right. See, that's legitimate. I was worried. I don't like ironic drawings of Lenny and Carl having sex. I want it with sexual intent. I want it with eroticism.

Yes. Yeah. But here's the danger of doing a great joke with Lenny being murdered. That later in the episode when they need Lenny in a scene for a Lenny and Carl scene, they have to sub in Moe in those moments because they need lenny in the scene for a lenny and carl scene they have to sub in mo in those moments because they kill lenny here and that doesn't like crusty slap carl yeah yeah it's it's a couple things like they ruin their ability to do carl jokes later by killing lenny here it should be lenny clapping for the dolphin uh takeover not carl carl's usually the

one that has the upper hand on lenny right yeah it makes carl too stupid i i don't like that but uh but that's a sacrifice i mean but you have to ask yourself is this funnier with a different character than lenny i think it's funniest seeing lenny die in this way like bludgeoned by bottled noses uh like i mean would it be funnier with moe i don't know or Apu. I think it's funny. I think it's funniest with Lenny. And so it's the next morning in another NA scene out of Jaws. He closes.

Wiggum thinks it is rowdy teens that did it, and he shuts down the prom. And then there's a great gag of the sea captain thinking he's the only one who can save the day, and he is instantly ripped in half by him. I love that. It's so quick but like that makes sense the two dolphins do the dolphin jump and they're going in opposite directions oh if we're as long as though we're referencing simpsons jokes that feels like they already did it before uh remembering season five and boy scouts in the hood where they're just like dolphins they're here to save us. Oh, right. And they laugh and say, you're all going to die. Kind of the same vein as this.

The dolphins didn't like assist in their death, though. Yeah, that's true. Or try to eat them. They just laugh at it. And so here's one thing that changed in the storyboard. There was not a joke that they imitated Sea Captain. That came in post-animatic. It's a cute joke.

It's really great. Like, I'm the Sea Captain. That came in post-animatic. It's a cute joke. It's really great. Like, I'm the Sea Captain. Arr, arr. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care.

Did I mention that we care? But the Dolphin Rampage is only beginning. And I play this one too because you can actually tell Frank Welker, as a dolphin, is saying, do you want fries with that in this bit here? Two crusty shakes, a donut burger with cheese, and a party-sized bucket of flan. Yes, I will have fries with that. Anything to get out of work. Our top story, Killer Dolphins.

Killer Dolphins? The recent wave of murders... Did I say Killer Dolphins? I meant Killer Italians. um did i say killer dolphins i meant killer italians gray bottle-nosed intelligent italians intelligent italians something's wrong we have to stop them if we speak in low frequency voices i don't think they can uh that intelligent italian line is funny something's wrong something's wrong uh but the uh now see it is an extra joke that homer doesn't realize it's a dolphin talking to him because it's a joke that the intercoms sound all squeaky and drive-thrus i i think that's the no no you're right yeah i just i thought it was funny that like the teen's head dropped us to his lap yeah homer thinks he's faking sickness or something yeah yeah i uh that also was added post-animatic to the anything to get out of work

not in the the the severed head is in there but uh man i could go for a party size bucket of flan huh donut burger that one is real that is real anyway the i forgot to mention to the the great animation on the march of the dolphins on to land like they and scully reveals that they may have broken union rules by him and the sound mix team they did the dolphin marching sounds of like and uh like the day before airing so that's uh and then a good little gag on the volleyball net too i like that they then another bit that doesn't make sense to me though uh is right after that that bart's the one who says they should call abe i feel like it should be lisa saying that like bart shouldn't care that much i don't know but uh though i do like that homer thinks it's good

that the phone is off the hook. Everything must be okay. Yeah. And a great drawing of Abe being eaten very slowly, more like a snake would eat something instead of a dolphin would. There's a deleted scene in which he appears again, in which he is rescued from this fate. During the big fight at the end,

they cut a lot of cool action. I think they mostly cut violence towards dolphins. Yes, yeah. And the great horrible violence joke they cut was, Mo fills the blowhole with gasoline, lights it on fire, and it explodes. And after exploding, Abe's body living is there. It's fully intact. Bigger than the dolphin never was and then he

starts doing like basically matrix kung fu fighting in the middle of it it's uh that's the closest to a matrix reference you got in this one that uh wow i guess the only other matrix reference i can recall on simpsons in season 12 is the in sync jump with the character and close with the matrix uh but yes in this one uh abe is just eating and he's gonna do uh some liver punching on his way down and it's time for action by our political leaders in this dangerous time people please we're all frightened and horny but we can't let some killer dolphins keep us from living and scoring willie must you do that now you want streaks because if you interrupt me that's what you'll get and that's supposed to be like a reference to jaws when the meeting is interrupted by

putting his hands on the blackboard oh totally okay oh right yeah uh and great animation of it just smashing through him just impaling everyone's impaling willie yeah really violent everyone's made out of like meringue like mr burns in this episode uh i didn't remember remember that we're all frightened and horny came from this episode because i feel like that's a line that i've seen going around a lot in the past uh you know six to eight months or so yeah that it is a great line for these times isn't it i you know i mentioned of burns uh that i did earlier i made me think like he's not in this episode like they weren't as into burns uh mike skelly's gang he's like in the front row but that's kind of it like he's just among everybody else who's there it feels weird to miss i mean burns being pure evil just to miss a chance to do anything

with him in a halloween episode feels odd to me yeah also there's a moment that i was like oh yeah this is the logic that they kick away the guns instantly and that's when it hit me like well yeah wait i these even a whole bunch of dolphins if they can't carry weapons that i think we've got them you know then another just amazing animation like these these animators have to draw okay realistic dolphin movements in water then what does a realistic army of dolphins marching on their tail look like and oh my god the way snorky slides in and wiggles around to right himself standing up. Like, holy crap, that's good. And then immediately afterwards, all of the birds parody shots they have to do. Oh God.

Drawing hundreds of dolphins. Again, Matt Nastic and his team, so good. But yes, it is time for Snorky to speak. It's approaching the podium. Surely it cannot speak. Sn's approaching the podium. Surely it cannot speak. Snarky talk man.

I'm sorry. Let me start over. Eons ago dolphins lived on the land. Why did he say? He said dolphins used to live on the land. What? Then your ancestors drove us into the sea, where we've suffered for millions of years. But you seemed so happy in the ocean. All that playful leaping.

We were trying to get out. It's cold, it's wet. Every morning I wake up phlegmy. Plus all that sewage we keep dumping. That was you? It was her, all right. Take the one who wronged you. I, King Snorky, hereby banish all humans to the sea. Yeah, again, Carl. Carl shouldn't be cheering, man. That's a Lenny move.

Definitely, yeah. Yeah. Just having Harry Shearer's normal speaking voice coming out of Snorky is pretty cool. I love that Bart and Mel set him up perfectly like he's approaching the podium. It feels so specific the way he goes

Snorky talk man but I couldn't find what exactly it's from. It definitely feels like a Twilight Zone where they go like this animal can't speak and then it starts to speak in a weird voice. I think Bart says he's approaching the podium because they realize like we haven't had any uh bar main characters talk in a while

so let's just give someone a lot like a useless line uh though he's approaching the podium is more of a mel line which makes it even better the then sideshow mel says an even bigger uh setup for it like and yeah the the idea that like oh dolphins hated living on land or hated living in the water and they're gonna cut they're gonna get it uh come back uh is it's an interesting turn here uh it also feels weird to see crusty like slap in the back of carl's head it's like when is there interaction between carl and crusty yeah yeah maybe like uh carl found a friend in crusty after lenny died. He's gotten a little too clingy with Krusty, so

Krusty's sick of him. I like that, yeah. I mean, Carl probably has been lost the last couple days without Lenny in his life. Poor guy. And it also feels like the third treehouse in a row where Homer offers up Lisa to be killed. He definitely did it in the witch one where he's like,

yes, it's her. she's a witch uh and as they are told to leave homer brag tries to get everybody excited again he brags about humanity creating things like the pudding cup in the glory hole which wow shocking to hear the words glory hole on fox i i have a feeling censors didn't know what that meant in the year 2000 i think you're right otherwise i would not fly and uh but yeah homer and also the idea that homer takes pride in the glory hole existing like that it's great uh and homer walks out and they are introduced to an entire birds parody also the second time that parody has happened in the simpsons they they did it babies yeah the baby version of it at the streetcar episode oh yeah uh but i i loved hearing scully's reasoning for it and totally

makes sense to me as a kid too which is like you see the end of birds with all these birds like in this giant threat like oh we have to walk slowly past all these birds but spoilers for the movie the birds they then just leave and nothing happens to them it's it these birds. But spoilers for the movie The Birds. They then just leave and nothing happens to them. It's a big threat, but then the birds don't attack. Scully wanted to finally see the all-out war that would follow the you're surrounded by the animal scene. But the poor animators that had to be like, so you got to top the film of birds on a weekly schedule. I think my favorite drawing is the dolphin flipping the coin next to an old tiny hot rod.

That was great. But yes, the final battle begins. Oh, no, you poor thing. Here. Ow! Son of a... Hey, leave my daughter alone. Come on, humans. We've wiped out entire species before.

We can do it again. Yeah! Help! If I could just... This is really not... You're hurting my... Come on, lads. Let's drive them back to the ocean. They are sent out to sea and yeah like we said earlier all the violence towards dolphins was cut like uh the one exploding there's also a scene of like hibbert fighting them with hypodermic

needles yeah it's like four on one and he's stabbing them with needles the whole time it i i wonder too if that like that's too imitatable an act. Don't show kids stabbing things with needles. And also, comic book guy in the deleted scene, he says, like, worst beating ever when he dies, which, you know, that's not that funny. It's better to hear his neck snap in the door, which his murder is like out of Raging Bull. Oh, you're right yeah also i swear it sounded like they cut i can't believe i would have figured they'd had lisa say bitch like saying son of a bitch but they they cut it off like through editing you son of a i i feel like uh they were like no lisa can't say that word lisa was brought pretty low you know in the past five years i've seen the return of those six-pack rings and

i thought like i thought captain planet wrote a law or something this is captain bob saying you cut those up people you cut them up before you throw them out i thought you had like the cardboard sleeves now just replaced them like that that kept the six together also a big change in the storyboard was bart saves homer by using a slingshot to plug up a blowhole and kill the dolphin in both storyboard and animatic bart pulls out like a bb gun or a cork gun like he's very specifically showed bart holding a gun and then shooting it which um i could see the censors having a note about bart shouldn't hold guns but also it's just a much more natural fit for him to use a slingshot, you know? But yeah, that was, I did also like as the dolphin Apu fight started, he throws dirt in Apu's eye, like he's fighting dirty, this dolphin.

And how long they make you watch Apu get slapped in the face is very strange. Just getting bruised and bloodied too. And yeah, I really think the animators really meant the occasion of being told have a crowd of hundreds of dolphins and humans run at each other like they they did above and beyond on that uh but yes it's a uh there's got to be some adjusting for the characters in this final clip you gotta hand it to those dolphins. They just wanted it more. I kind of wish I hadn't freed their leader and, you know, doomed mankind.

Oh, honey, I wouldn't say doomed. It's going to be an adjustment, no question. Oh. Can you believe it, Kodos? They left us out of the Halloween show. Are you sure the space phone is working? Hang up. They could be trying to call right now.

I knew we should have sent them a muffin basket. Kang and Kodos Productions. Uh-huh. Yes. Just a second. Do we want to do a commercial for something called Old Navy? Hmm? Work is work.

All right. It's a good tentacle foley on the Kang and Kodos there. Again, nothing says 2000 like an Old navy commercials joke those commercials were hot they were yeah and uh when i was like porn in college like eight dollars for jeans yeah that lasts for two months uh-huh uh there's uh another the last of the big changes from the animatic was when it shows them in the water everyone's in the water they aren't sitting on the uh the couch like the opening gag i think it's much better than posed on the couch but i love marge's disgusted kicking away of crusty and also his grease paint is flowing in the water though of course as we all know that's not makeup so that's actually

let's say that's his skin falling off we're're tiptoeing towards undoing that, Lauren. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. No, I also did. It is the hard cut to them having lost is a really good gag. And that they even threw the Jebediah statue in the water, which is pretty great. But yeah, I really did. I think that is actually true what happened i think they did forget to

write king and kodos in it and then did a late retake like i like not that that's you know easy to do and animate late but it's a simple enough like single shot that they've reused many times they don't even have to like design a new background or posing on the character and i think they reuse footage of their ufo from like earlier scenes or earlier episodes it looks a bit different and also the uh the muffin baskets coming back into the simpsons just like the the gersh agency muffin baskets or the chub group the chub yeah uh but uh and i also i do like any joke about two losers in hollywood answering the phone and calling their company Productions. Like, hey, Kodas Productions.

Also, speaking of insidery comedy jokes, I had a good little laugh at Al Jean calling himself Alimony Jean. Alimony Jean. Oh, he's paying that. Yeah. Every alimony joke in The Critic is because Al Jean was divorced. Yep. Mike Reese, still with the same wife decades later. Al Jean is happily married now, too. Theie gillis a simpsons writer that's right yeah i i guess the last note i'll

make historically on this is that in the simpsons video game of 2009 there's a whole section that's just like a mash-up of concepts from uh other tree houses that you then play in video game form but i as i recall the biggest one was fighting all the dolphins yeah like and and matt selman who wrote co-wrote the video game i believe he came up with it because he loved this segment so much he didn't even write it this is carolyn omine one but he was like man it's this is just so funny and it really fits for a video game to fight a i mean, perfect for a video game. You were fighting an army of similar looking enemies. One enemy.

Yeah, one enemy. I should, every time I go back to that game, I'm like, the animation's great. This is a boring-ass EA game to play. It's so boring. It's not bad. It's just incredibly dull. Just play the arcade game.

Oh, sure, yeah. Which got del incredibly dull. Just play the arcade game. Oh, sure. Yeah. Which got delisted. Like, bring those both back. Yeah. I mean, I can't believe... Simpsons still works with EA on that tapped out game. Like, just put out Simpsons Game Remaster. Just do it.

Like, yeah. But consoles are not where Simpsons games are anymore. It's on the money factory of the phone. I think 30 re-release hit and run that too yeah i think like 38 minutes of tapped out uh you know money can pay for a remake of anything yeah for sure absolutely and we're we're in that era now they remade that spongebob game they remade spiros we're we're well into the era of remaking, you know, PS2, GameCube, Xbox games. Yeah, I know. Yeah, which certainly makes me feel old

seeing the nostalgia for the Battle of Bikini Bottom. I'm like, no, you're supposed to be children still if you have nostalgia for that. I'm not old. Well, I believe Hit and Run is now 18 years old. So look out. Good Lord, man. But yeah, this episode was

it was a really good Treehouse I do I think I might have liked the previous years more but the combo of the three is really great the animation again just like fantastic the whole time yeah I think season 12 is getting off to a great start there's a few rough episodes but I feel like it's much better than 11 on the

whole and not just because it doesn't have the Maude Flanders episode I think it is an improvement for sure the spring break episode too yeah even uh is that the one with kid rock oh yep yep he yeah it's uh in the late josey we we had a lot of fun talking about that one but mary and any final thoughts yourself yeah i know this was a fun one definitely one of the Treehouse episodes that I saw when it aired. The Treehouse episodes always used to really scare me as a kid. I was like a very anxious child. So like a lot of television would just freak me out. I couldn't separate, you know, fantasy from reality. The Treehouse episodes like King Kodos, the episode with the haunted house that has portals into like a hell dimension all that stuff used to scare the hell out of me so it was cool to to go back now that i am and not that any of them are particularly scary but i'm really into horror now so it's cool to go back and see uh some of the references yeah it was a fun one you know you got a sheena euston reference you got march being mean you got a lot

of good screams and the first and only reference to glory holes on the entire series i think never return to the glory hole hole. You can't, yeah, they don't let you do that no more. Are you looking forward to next year on Treehouse? They're going to be doing a parasite parody. Oh my God. You know what? I just thought not to talk about glory holes

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