Talking Simpsons - Talking Simpsons - Who Shot Mr. Burns (Part Two)

Episode Date: January 24, 2018

It's time to find out who pulled the trigger! Oh, you already know? Well, it'll still be fun to go through all the history and references along the way, including some of the funniest gags in Simpsons history, like a revenge mambo, open kilts, and backwards-talking dreams. So put down your Sears catalog and enjoy this week's extra-long podcast!

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You're in Soak Tool Shed, Chris Antista. Oh, my God. Today's episode is Who Shot Mr. Burns Part 2. I've had it up to here with this damn ricket. Yes. Today's episode aired on September 17, 1995. And as always, Chris will tell us what happened on this mythical day in real world history. Oh, my God.

Oh, boy, Bobby. Zero Cool and Angelina Jolie hacked the planet in Hackers. Kids WB debuts, anchored by Animaniacs for a while. But the U.S. is also seeing another animated series premiere, Sailor Moon.

Wow! Right now. That was on Fox Kids, I remember seeing the premiere of Sailor Moon. I was really excited for the beginning of Kids WB. I so was, too. Kids WB... That first year was fucking fantastic. The first year was basically them

taking Warner Brothers, took all of their great programming, mostly from Fox. And gave you a Superman. And gave you a Superman all on that network. But I read the problem was that they got a bunch of 13 year olds and older watching it when what they wanted were children to advertise toys to.

And if you lived in Tallahassee, Florida, you didn't have WB, so all of these cartoons overnight disappeared. That stinks. And then I think it went to Kids WB, so did Pokemon. And then Pokemon. Oh, yes. And then Power Rangers was killing these shows on Fox, but Pokemon killed them on that channel.

Kids WB, and it became almost all anime. Yeah, Kids WB would eventually get Batman, and this first year he wasn't part of it. In fact, there's a joke on Freakazoid about that. They didn't get Batman on Kids WB. Because the Fox deal was still continuing. Fox basically renewed it for like 13 more episodes. No, less than 13. I didn't get to see a beautiful cartoon like Freakazoid until I was in my

mid-20s. That's when you can really appreciate all those F Troop references. I couldn't believe what they were making for children. It is kind of the wrong direction. It was not made for children. It was made for people who grew up in the 60s. Sorry. It was made for Gilbert Godfrey, basically. As we talked about with Reed Harrison in our interview,

he wrote an episode of Pinky and the Brain, and they were in a similar situation wrote an episode of pinky in the brain and they were in a similar situation where like they had pinky in the brain and animaniacs which was skewing older and they tried to make it into simpsons pinky in the brain was aired at night like in in prime time they did that with batman a few times too i think so yeah they they aired the two well at fox they aired the two-parter of Batman the Animated Series that explained the origin of Robin. I think, too, because it was too violent for kids.

But Warner Brothers had some of the best award-winning animation on TV, but it was also not the kind of thing that children, it wasn't Pokemon. Pokemon was really when kids dub-a-dub-a-dub-a-dub-a-dub-a-w-b. Pokemon was cheap compared to full animation, full orchestra, like Hollywood writers. Yes, unions. Unions, too.

This doesn't do unions. They do shit in Canada. It was made internally by that company, meaning it cost them all that money. And if they had a Pokemon, that is something

with a giant merchandise and game division, which none of these things had. They all have pretty terrible games. Yeah, and the Superman, well, Superman had one of the worst games of all time. But Superman, the show, was also hurt.

It had unfortunate production issues. They played the three-parter series premiere, a Toyman episode, and a Metallo episode, and then they repeated the origin for three weeks because, as I would find out on the DVDs, Korea had problems and it took a while longer for new episodes to come back. And so the first season was really hurt by that. And same Animaniacs.

Animaniacs skewed a little older. Then Freakazoid was like, what if Animaniacs was weirder? It was for college kids almost, like dorm room stoners. There's a joke in one of the first episodes of Freakazoid saying, we pitched this to Prime Time, but they had other ideas. We just got back from Christmas as of this recording. Yeah, I did a Christmas blog and go on and on about Christmas episodes. I also have them all on Amazon Digital, so I just watch them at everybody's house. Anybody who's mildly curious

to re-watch something, I'm like, fuck yeah, Christmas specials. And someone asked, why is it so special to you? And I may have had this epiphany on another podcast, on another later time, but that before The Simpsons, Christmas specials were the only time you saw animation at night. That's true, it was very special.

Yeah, to make something like that special, and I always, I think this year was like imagine being a fan of charlie brown and like instead of this bullshit show your parents like for the first time ever it premieres on television for free you can watch charlie brown yeah or it would have blown your fucking mind or i remember thinking like well i watch garfield every morning but that's not my parents don't understand it but if they are watching Garfield's Christmas special at night yeah it's it's more highbrow because I had to read

about kids WB that they like they bother like no the animated special should be important like especially while we don't have a lot of programming so we're gonna elevate some of the stuff into primetime like so fucking pissed I missed it also on kids WB though they had since they were making a lot of shows with the wayans they also made wayne head and which wasn't particularly good and one of the

longest running things on that channel was inexplicably the sylvester and tweety mystery another super high budget show yeah which looked it looked really good but i couldn't with like tms animation i was not into that show at all but they they, I mean, June Foray was on every fucking episode. They got her RIP June Foray. Yeah, so as should be apparent, don't get us started on animation. We'll talk forever. Yeah, this is already going to be a long episode. No, it's fine.

It's fine. So I wanted to go over the contest, if you don't mind. Yeah, please. Just the results of the contest. So. Who shot Mr. Burns? Right. So in the last episode we did of Talking Simpsons,

we talked about the 1-800-COLLECT contest and that if you called someone collect during the certain time period, you and that person would be entered in this contest. And I believe there was some way for you to choose a culprit because they, uh, when Merkin explains this, it's evident that you had to choose someone. And if you're out there listening and you did this, let us know. I don't know if you set it into the phone or you hit a button or whatever i would have gotten in trouble if i called one yeah but there's got to be somebody out there listening that has done this i want to know how it was i i want to imagine like you just said the name because how many

options could they give you with like one touchtone phone like press press star if you think it was smithers for the rules of the contest david merkin went over this with a fine tooth comb to make sure it would be the best Simpsons contest. He was really into making this a great contest. Because of contest rules, they had to look at a random sample of a thousand entries and find someone who picked the right person.

It turns out that in that sample of a thousand, no one picked Maggie. Holy shit. David Merkin was like, let's just choose another sample. And they're like, no, this is a a contest and by the rules of the contest like the federal rules or whatever national rules we don't do

them exactly we have to stick with this 1000 entry sample you must choose one person at random the person that was chosen at random chose Smithers it was just like let's say almost some old woman because I guess

the people who entered this contest weren't necessarily Simpsons watchers. They were called during the show. Did you use 1-800 Collect at this certain time? So instead of animating her into the show, they just stated she just got money. I don't know how much

money. Except the cash prize. I was so looking forward to there being a character buried in a background. A meaningless looking character. Dave Merkin also said she was in Washington D dc yeah the person was located and yeah bill oakley also said she opted for the cash prize instead of being animated the end yes i wonder what the cash prize was but yes a very very disappointing end to this contest and i just i want to know what happened when you call that call number right it's got to be recorded somewhere somebody's got

to have a memory of that i just want to know how you chose. We played that. Somebody recorded all of the Freddy Krueger hotlines, and that was even older. Sin, Sin, Cincinnati. Well, and they had an ad blitz. They had an insane ad blitz for this, not just 1-800-COLLECT, but also Pepsi, United Artists Theaters,

and 7-Eleven all had ads for this. I remember multiple comic books had the ad on the back of it, like not just for Watch Part 1, but also for Watch Part 2, find out who finally did it. And Bill Oakley in the AV Club, you should check out, has an amazing oral history of this. And Bill Oakley talks about how when the episode came out, they had a giant party for it and nobody cared and he's

like you spent all this money all this money to have this giant party at the fox lot and he is surrounded by executives who don't give a shit about the simpsons yes he was thinking he was thinking if i was a teenager this is exactly where i want to be and instead i'm surrounded by all these people who are doing it the party is happening when the episode aired so oakley is so deep into production of c and seven he's he doesn't know what people think of this episode and so he talked about how he was happy that it's so widely remembered now because at the time it came out it felt like nothing he also said if you remember the poochie episode homer, you're missing the jokes. Yes.

Stop talking. That was how he felt at that party. While they were playing it at the party? Yes. Oh, wow. It was playing live at the party, and everybody was talking and stuff like, you're not watching this episode. So this episode, Who Shot Mr. Burns Part 2, one final pre-episode thing is that this episode is so overlong and so packed with information and in like uh

clips and things like that it had to be sped up 10 percent to fit the running time yeah and i can't tell no there i know on the commentary merkin says there's some lines in here that marge says that are hard to hear but i'm like i don't really hear it and it's one of the even at 10 percented i don't know this statistically is absolutely true, but of all the episodes that aired in the half-hour format, this is the longest. This is over 23 minutes long. I could not do that today. We're never going to squeeze in that Z-Man.

Yeah, so it was the longest one ever. Another thing I'd say about this episode is that I wonder what this episode would have been like if Nicole Brown Simpson were alive. Because there are so many simpson dna references in here that was like if the world had not learned what dna was through oj simpson's trial likely what would this episode have been written much long before the murder oh no no way Oh wait wait wait 94 It was early 94 Over a year before this aired That's right So the murders happened then

I don't know at what point In the trial it happened But as we do know In Round Springfield There are direct references to his lawyers So it had to That's right Something had to be happening

With the court case By the time they arrived It taught us all about DNA And also behind the scenes There was a big fight That Oakley Weinstein Really didn't want it to be Maggie They really didn't the court case by the time they were writing. It taught us all about DNA. And also behind the scenes, there was a big fight that Oakley and Weinstein really didn't want it to be Maggie. They really didn't.

That's why in the 138th episode, they say, and then we found out it was a baby. Yeah, I believe Weinstein wanted it to be Barney and that Barney would just leave the show and not come back for a while. No more drunk jokes for Barney.

They're like, the drunk jokes are getting old. Oh, my season three MVP. I mean, Oakley and Weinstein were big into changing. This was the wrap-up episode of the show, right? Yes.

Okay, for patrons. Crown a new victor. So this episode two is that behind the scenes, James L. Brooks, he's like, it has to be a Simpson. This is The Simpsons.

A Simpson has to have done the shooting. And then he suggested the baby. And Dave Merkin thought that was so funny simpsons a simpson has to have done the shooting and then he suggested the baby and dave merkin thought that was so funny that that the baby shot mr burns and when you watch the episode it allows no one to take blame like they're just like well they're not they're not going to convict a baby this doesn't it can just be an accident it they can just forget about it and move on. But Maggie did it on purpose. We know. Okay, personal story time. I don't think I have ever anticipated anything as much as I anticipated this episode of The Simpsons.

I mean, I was waiting, watching. I think I watched that tape over and over again looking for clues. Probably once a week I was watching it. I'm actually the opposite. I was real passive about it. Oh my god, I'm actually the opposite. I was like real passive about it. Oh my god, I can't imagine that. I was just like, more New Simpsons is fine. Whatever it is, I don't care. I needed to know.

I didn't know so bad. I didn't try and figure it out. It drove me crazy all summer long. I was watching it over and over and over. And just even, I remember my excitement the week before they re-air Lemon of Troy and I'm like, next week is the show it's coming back it was two weeks after my birthday i was a 13 year old boy nothing was more exciting

than this ready to solve mysteries exactly it was just i would have been there no matter what episode it was yeah but it was interesting didn't they preempt the episode with like a full so it was the highest rated simpsons in a long time. It was preempted first. So 7 o'clock, the part one, re-air that. 7.30, Springfield's Most Wanted. A blatant advertisement for the episode. They hire the entire America's Most Wanted crew to make an episode, including John Walsh. Who started the show because his son was abducted and decapitated. Murder explo an episode including john walsh john walsh who started the

show because his son was abducted and murdered yes cheap john walsh look he did a lot of good no he did i was just giving him shit so here's one of my favorite clips from it from the sports book the fabulous mirage hotel in las vegas jimmy vaccaro thank you john we're here at the mirage sports book and the board is going wild folks are are betting on who shot Mr. Burns like it was the Super Bowl. Right now, Homer's the odds-on favorite at 2-1. But as we get closer to finding out who shot Mr. Burns, things can change in a hurry. Later in the show, I'll return with my special picks. Back to you, John.

Thanks, Jimmy. Now, hopefully, with the help of our experts, we can shed some light on this mystery. Wow. And there were odds up there. Yeah, they could have just done that on the board for that one shot. I like how it said Snake in parentheses Gilbert. No one says Gilbert.

But as we know, the writers wrote that. People bet on professional wrestling. They bet on everything. A sportsbook will take any money from you. If you're like, well, I've got money, then we've got bets. That's how it is in the sportsbook. Though any money from you. If you're like, well, I've got money, then we've got bets. That's how it is in the sportsbook. Though now, the next time I'm in Vegas, I am putting money down at the Mirage,

now that I know it's really the Simpsons. But that's how big they did. Though there is a moment in Springfield's Most Wanted where John Walsh says, I may be serious for a moment. We do real good work on America's Most Wanted, and I hope you watch it. I wonder if he had that demand of, like, we'll do this giant commercial, but we have to tell people. The ghost of his dead son was approaching the studio. I kid with him, but he was always very serious that he was doing this for good reasons. And I think as a result, it was one of the shows Fox couldn't cancel for a long time.

It was hovering around The Simpsons for way too long. By the way, I was not making light of the fact that his son was murdered, but I was just wondering what is going through his head where it's like, I started this show because my son was murdered, and now I'm doing an episode about a cartoon character being shot. In 2017, even if he was doing that, he would still be required to exist in parody somewhere, to be this character somewhere else. Season 1, they had the show America's Most Armed and Dangerous, was that it? that yeah they saw it on t that was in the what would have been the pilot had not

been terribly animated and and no i was more of a uh mystery unsolved mysteries guy over that show yeah a lot spookier so we're 20 minutes in time to start talking about sorry no one more sorry i have one more personal story of this so i never So I never was more excited for an episode than this. My Uncle Eric, who still lives in Marin County, California, he also was super excited for this. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care?

This is before there's really the internet. Neither of us have it. We're in Florida and have seen the episode. Oh, no. We joke call him with, like, we've seen the episode. We've seen the episode. And then we hang up. We don't say it.

But that was what you could do before the internet. It was the first spoiler I ever cared about and uh it but there was no twitter to spoil it for me so that was that was what my mom was like we got to do it let's do it let's let's call unky eric now let's talk about hooray i think we already put a break in the show by now but yes so uh we open with another reference to the series Dallas so the who shot Mr. Burns thing is obviously who shot JR this is a parody of the opening I believe of the

10th season do do do do do Water for all. Sir, you weren't shot. It was all a dream. That's right. The year is 1965, and you and I are undercover detectives on the hot rod circuit. Now let's burn rubber, baby. Speedway Squad, in color. Wait, that was all a dream.

Oh. Hey, then maybe I haven't become a hideous drunken wreck. Oh. I want to point out that Mr. Burns fires the gun three times. Oh, three. It's not really a clue. It's just a callback to how three is important. To Smithers especially.

So, okay. So apparently in the 80s, Patrick Duffy was a huge star. I only really know him from Step by Step. A sex symbol, man. It was a much hornier version of the Brady Bunch, Step by Step.

But, so Patrick Duffy planned on leaving the show, Dallas, after the 84, 85 season. That was season eight. He is killed off at the end of season eight.

Run over by car. Exactly. Season nine goes by, he's dead. Let's make more episodes. Patrick Duffy's like, I want to come back to season 10 okay season 10 opens with all of season 9 was a dream all 30 episodes were a dream well and his wife finds him in the shower is the first thing that happens how could you ever get away with that now mr robot this oh god really no it's okay this is

not what happened this is the season nine finale. Yeah, season 10 starts with him saying it was all a dream, but this is how... Oh, so season nine ends with that. Season nine ends with this. What an awful way to end a season. God damn it. Morning. And then just freeze on Patrick Duffy. And you're left all summer thinking, wait, how's he alive?

And so then when you start up, I watched the beginning of the season 10 opener. It's just him saying, what's the matter? What's wrong? She's like, what's the matter? It looks like you saw the ghost. I thought I did. I dreamed that you were run over in a car. And I read that the behind the scenes thing was the new executive,

the old executive producer was shoved out in season eight. Season nine was by somebody else. And then when he came back, he's like, you know what? Fuck season nine. Didn't happen. My mom was there. The gas leak season. My mom was there to explain that joke to me because it made no sense to me as a 13-year-old.

And I think Family Guy did a direct reshot. Like with live action. That was with Patrick Duffy and that woman. That was at their Millennium episode that happens. My mom also, she hated that.

That made her stop watching Dallas. To be told, an entire season of a soap opera you were watching never happened. And it went on for like four or five more years after that. Four more years. How? It was a ratings juggernaut. But the pose of Burns, the shower, it is all like shot for shot that Dallas.

But that opening, imagine you've waited all summer and the opening is that Speedway joke. Oh, yeah. It's pretty great. I love we always try to look a little deeper than the wikis, obviously. But I love how the wikis are all like young kids trying. And like, this is probably a parody of Police Squad. No. You poor young man.

I read that, too, and I got mad, Chris. That's the oldest show you've ever seen. Speedway Squad is a parody of a movie that Paul Anka would have starred in or something in the 60s. Yeah, it's a joke about much older shows that it's parodying Police Squad. It's just the first time you saw it. And I always point to, because it's now in Disneyland,

they changed the name of the show in like the 60s to The Wonderful World of Color because like people were, Mad Men has an episode about that. Like CBS, like we're not going color. Refuse. They refused to do color.

So you would have to tell people like, you know this is in color, right? It is. It looks black and white to me. No, it's in color. Buy a new TV. We say it in the opening of the episode. It's just so weird. I don't –

Drag that. In color. Because I think we grew up with like in stereo we're available. Yeah. But nobody has to do that anymore because it's just expected. I think of the old MST3K ref, Rat Patrol in color. I was thinking of MST3K's Turn Down Lights, Where Apple Is. Oh, yeah, that too.

And I thought Dragnet might have done it because it went color. The Andy Griffith show went in color and has to tell you that, no, we spent more money on the show this season. If you buy a new TV, you'll see colors on the show now. I also like that Burns sees nothing sexual with Smithers seeing him in the show. He's like, there's enough hot water for us. That's great. I also, let's burn rubber, baby. But then we get back to reality with a Kent Brockman recap.

Oh, this is another fuck you to the audience. I love it so much. Dozens of people are gunned down each day in Springfield, but until now, none of them was important. I'm Kent Brockman. At 3 p.m. Friday, local autocrat C. Montgomery Burns was shot following a tense confrontation at Town Hall. Burns was rushed to a nearby hospital where he was pronounced dead.

He was then transferred to a better hospital where doctors upgraded his condition to alive. So for five seconds, this episode makes you think the first part was a dream. The second thing is they make you think they actually killed Mr. Burns for like a second. I recall my mom's

gasp. Like she, it got us. It really, it's also a funny joke that if he went to a better hospital they'd figure out he was alive. Yes, yeah, that he was taken. They thought he was dead only because he was in a bad hospital, not because a 104 year old he was taken. They thought he was dead only because he was in a bad hospital, not because a 104-year-old man was shot.

No matter where you shoot a 104-year-old man, they're dead. At least it's over, yeah. They're going to die, no matter how much money they have. And I love that Chief Wiggum then comes on screen, he's eating an ice cream drumstick, which is perfect for him. Oh, those are good. And then in another laying of pipe slash funny joke they're interviewing santa's little helper and maggie which is funny that they're asking questions

of people who can't talk but more importantly it tells you right now maggie and santa's little helper were right there where mr burns was shot so it'll make more sense people heard the season six wrap up yet i would think they have access to it because you mentioned it on their patreon site yeah patreon.com talking simpsons that they what burns calls send us a little helper one simpson mutts sm he makes sure to say that so you can confuse the initials we'll send us a little helper i never understood why he was in this opening shot there's so many i mean mo sislak was just a thing in the background for his bar uh license in part one like there's a ton of sns sideshow mel w see more skinner all the ones that they want to hear what sideshow merrill has to say they worked so hard to trick you into things and

so uh then we also we this this episode handles recaps in a very good way because they realize, like, after this first airing, some people are just going to see this episode without seeing part one. So you need people like Lisa to explain everyone's motives. Everyone in Springfield had a reason to shoot Mr. Burns, even us. Bart, he broke your dog's legs. Grandpa, he destroyed your home. And Dad, well, you kind of went berserk when he couldn't remember your name. Berserk is right!

May I have some iced tea, please? Aren't we forgetting someone? Sister suspect. You know what's just getting to me? Because of Mr. Burns, they canceled my jazz program, and my friend Tito Puente got fired. But I could never shoot someone. Could so, could not, could so, could not, could so, could not, could so, could not. I love how that pays off going to the outhouse. We don't have an outhouse. My tool shed!

Oh, Dan! I love how that pays off later with the visual joke. Yeah, the visual gag of the tool shed being hosed off. It's my favorite thing in the whole episode. It is. Over-angrily hosing out the tool shed. But that was a great sum-up of how you need to know why all the Simpsons could be guilty because you're going to later know it's a Simpson who is involved.

Now I could never think of Smithers without Smingers. Smingers did it. That's right. Smingers did it. I did the Iggy. I did the Iggy. And though this is what scared me as a kid, that at this moment, 13 and first viewing, I was sure it was Smithers. I was like, I figured it out.

It's Smithers. first viewing i was sure it was smithers i was like i figured it out it's smithers but i got the sinking feeling of if they're dealing with smithers as a suspect at the start of this episode yeah he probably isn't the culprit i wasn't that aware yet but i was positive it wasn't one of the simpsons yeah that's the one thing i felt positive sure they wouldn't do now i see the obviousness of like yeah it's one of the simpsons the show's assumptions it should be a simpson not smithers but then there's a uh a good gag of so smithers remembers that he shot somebody and uh i i i really love the muffler man i think he's a funny it's just like sidling up to smithers i like you can see the the scrunching in the costume for when he moves to put it in his pocket like

by the way this animation uh directed by wes and archer one of the we've been doing the shorts me and bob and wes archer is like he's the one of the first animators of the simpsons so it's awesome that he's doing such a major having just sent a me seeks-do gift to a request on text. Director Rick and Morty, right? Yes, supervising director. So, yes, Smithers is pretty sure he killed Burns. I'm the one who shot Mr. Burns. That's all I needed to hear. This thing works great.

A man became consumed by greed. He'd steal from anyone. This isn't a rival company you're battling with. It's a school. People won't stand for it. Pish posh. It would be like taking candy from a baby. See, that sounds like a laugh. And when he tried to steal our sunlight, he'd cross that line between

everyday villainy and cartoonish supervillainy. She was a rank amateur he'd crossed that line between everyday villainy and cartoonish super villainy he was a rank amateur compared to dr colossus when is my lawyer coming dr colossus last seed in lisa versus malibu stacy one of the husbands of stacy lavelle. That's right. Again, they could have made up a new character for this, but they got a classic one because of the film's continuity.

Also, the gag, I didn't grab it, but the... First, the visual gag of Homer having rickets is pretty funny, but it's one of the few jokes in this two-parter that has no logical consistency. Like, Homer's legs are the same or better. Rickets is a reshaping

of your bones. It's a vitamin D deficiency because the sun is being blocked out. I think it's more a problem when you're growing than when you're already old and your bones are formed. This is one of the first things I ever googled. How do you get rickets? But it's funny. I couldn't put it together. It's a funny visual to see Homer walking like that but he's fine

in the next scene. Yeah and they crush shelbyville apparently which that joke feels more cruel after lemon of troy of like no i know the faces of shelby they killed a lot of people well they crushed it down who's to say someone died that's true i wonder if they were trying to get rid of shelby bull forever after this joke like don't talk about shelby have they mentioned that bumblebee man works for k-mex i think that might have been the first time, because previously we saw he was a Channel 5. Channel Ocho. Oh, and Channel Ocho, yeah. K-Max.

Oh, and the St. Patrick's Day parade gag, in case you don't know, gays aren't allowed in many St. Patrick's Day parades. They're like, hey, we're a group of gays, we want to march in the parade. And they're like, no, we believe in a stupid old religion. Get the fuck out of here, gays we want to march in the parade and they're like no we believe in a stupid old religion get the fuck out of here gays and one of the big changes boston is most famous for that boston would never let the gays march 2017 they changed their mind because of a gay veterans group they're like oh shit the their veteran their veteran powers outdo their gay powers. So we have to respect that. I researched this the most just because I found it fascinating.

It started in 93 where they just like, now all gays are banned. All gays. But it was in 93 gay veterans specifically. Oh, so it always had been gay veterans. Yes. And in 1995, they allowed one group to walk. And they were like, well, how was it? And that was like a gauntlet of nightmares. Oh, I bet.

Going through Boston in 95. They're going to make you pay for marching. Jesus Christ. And in 1995, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the parade. They can exclude anyone they want. It's their First Amendment rights. And whatever. It is what it is.

It's their parade. But, yeah, it was 2017 where, like, I think somebody signed in permanently, yes, forever. But up until then, gays had marched in the Boston parade, but only on a case-by-case basis, like being allowed every year.

But 1995 was, that's what Smithers is referencing. Oh, wow. Is the court ruling that said, like, no, you can exclude gays forever I didn't know that was a timely reference

well that's the thing I like pointing out I don't know about this whole season is like so much of it is what happened seven months ago

yeah okay so then we actually get a surprising return of another old character by name Dave Shotton Springfield Deli shopper.

Who are you? Where are you going? Do your research, Shotton. Ken Rockman, Channel 6 News. How does it feel to be accused of the attempted murder of your boss and mentor? Can't I? I feel about as low as Madonna when she found out she missed tail hook.

I'm gonna say, ouch, for Madonna. Hey, that's my Madonna gag. That guy stole my gag. And you stole it from last Friday's episode of Pardon My Zinger. Stole, made up, what's the difference? Mr. Smithers must have seen that program, too. He never misses it. At the town meeting, he mentioned that he watched Comedy Central.

I made sure to note that, as it seemed quite unusual. Ye gods! To the police station, Krusty! Krusty! So that's 47 seconds of the most jam-packed combination of joke and exposition ever, where Smithers has to say his whole thing again, so you get a hack reporter.

It reminds me of that Mr. Show sketch of that reporter who shows up at the other news studio and just holds the microphone sheepishly. What's this about? Who are you and what are you doing? It reminds me of that Mr. Show sketch of that reporter who shows up at the other news studio and just holds the microphone. What's this about? Who are you and what are you doing? And that's Dave Shudden, who before had been a pretty good reporter for covering Blinky. And the Lincoln Squirrel assassination. In those 47 seconds, hack reporter joke, hack joke thief joke. Yes.

And even a Comedy Central slam. But then a bunch of valid information so they're working jokes around the important stuff it's the tailhook scandal not so funny no um man like i don't know the story no i don't at all yeah this comes up in uh simpson tide actually they're going to court-martial homer but all the the military guys are are indicted in the tailhook scandal they all have to leave so homer does not get dishonorably discharged or no he gets dishonorably discharged he can't spell dishonorable without honorable so yeah the tailhook talking about sexual harassment dear fucking god like i was reading about this it's horrifying at the at the tail i'll try to clean this up a bit but the tailhook association

symposium which is a association for the uh aviation military guys. There was a symposium in September of 91 in which 100 aviation officers sexually assaulted 83 women and seven men at all of the parties that were happening. So this was a huge, huge... In 91? Their standards of sexual harassment. That sounds terrible. You can assume this happened most days.

Most times they did this and it was just seen as rowdiness. Don't act like you don't like it. But now this was, it finally came to light and, like, people were fired over that. It was a huge shame to the community. Yeah, and I should say, like, sexual assault and harassment continues to be a huge problem in the military. I was, like, reading statistics, like, tens of thousands of incidents are reported every year in the military. But this was one of the biggest things that came to problem in the military. I was reading statistics. Tens of thousands of incidents are reported every year in the military, but this was one of the biggest things that came to light in the public. Well, Bob, if I—

It's like a job that's also camp. Well, Bob, you know, I heard a certain president say that if you're going to put a bunch of women on a submarine with men, what do you think is going to happen? No man who said that could ever be elected president, Henry. He thinks through everything he says. What president I could be talking about who knows so the joke is madonna was uh sad she missed being sexually assaulted yeah it's a slut-saming madonna joke on top of a

tail hook joke but the the best cover i could be offended by this the best cover for it to not be offensive is that they're making a parody of a bad joke yeah it's like it's like every joke carlos mencia stole yeah you probably thought of but he but he took the verbiage from somebody else so i i really hate madonna jokes now because like i love i love madonna i think she's awesome she there are a lot of bad madonna jokes on the creative is madonna really full of herself and speaks with a fake British accent? Sure. Sure, yes. Make fun of her old lady arms.

Did she just make up Kabbalah? Sure. But I think the real reason she gets made fun of a lot is that she dares to be a woman over 35 who wants to be like, I fuck. And everybody's like, oh, we can't take this. Go away. We don't want to hear about you fucking. She dares to be a sexual being after the age of 40, and people can't take that.

And the shit she did for the gays, more positive than negative on that, I'd say. And what I love in this episode is that at least two different characters have to become detectives briefly. Yeah, Mel would like. Because Wiggum is terrible at his job. I'd show Mel kicks ass. He, like, rushes to action. I love that he immediately, once he picks up that pipe, he is Sherlock Holmes. Yes.

And Krusty happily becomes Dr. Watson. He doesn't even care that he just becomes the sidekick and boss role is completely reversed. It seemed quite unusual. I thought it was weird. He was watching Comedy Central. I ejaculated.

Sorry. It was a reference back home. We were all reading a Sherlock Holmes story in class and he kept saying that whenever he shouted. I read that a lot in old-timey books, and I think of someone coming while they're screaming. I ejaculated in the den. I am Melvin Van Horn,

and this is my associate, Herschel Krastowski. Hey, hey. Officer, you have arrested an innocent man. Really? Oh, jeez. All right, Colossus, you're free to go, but stay away from Death Mountain. All my stuff is there. I was referring to Waylon Smithers.

Mr. Burns was shot Friday at 3 p.m., the very time that Smithers was at home watching Pardon My Zinger. So you see, he couldn't have done it. Yes, you're right. I remember now. I watched that entire show. In fact, I left the town meeting early so I could get home in time.

Well, I gotta run or I'll miss the opening rank out. I better get out of my way. Slow down. The sun walks for regular walking, not for fancy walking. Out of my way. I'm in a hurry. You simmer down. I'll let you go. So, instead of wounding an evil old man, I may have killed an innocent old man.

That's much worse. About 50,000 volts worse, if you know what I mean. Sizzle. Sizzle. Sizzle. That's all really great it did remind me we talked about

Pardon My Zinger being the opening whose luck out well that's what made me let me believe it's whose line well that it might have been MTV Snaps

MTV Snaps was a was a short-lived show where you would insult one another and I think MTV had like a Yo Mama show I remember the Wilder Valverama one but that was years after this there was an HBO show called Snaps where you would insult one another. And I think MTV had like a Yo Mama show. I remember the Wilder Volverama one. Yeah, but there was an HBO show called Snaps.

Interesting. And that's what it was. And there was like a book series too. Weird. Dozens. I prefer snappy answers to stupid questions. Shut up. I prefer cracks rip off shut ups.

They're the worst. I'm so glad you got that. You clod. You clod. Yeah. You do remember Cracked Shut-Ups. It's a shitty rip-off of snappy answers to stupid questions, and all you do is interrupt somebody and say shut up and bold.

Well, Cracked won in the end, guys. Cracked is quite a great website. Well, you never know. Mad Magazine now is going to make a comeback. Bill Morrison, who worked on many classic Simpsons comics, is now their executive editor. I enjoyed their Trump parody, White Hate American Summer. So Jasper getting shot was quite a...

That also made my mom gasp. She's like, oh, Jasper's dead. But by that point, I realized, like, no, I saw the gun go a little lower in that shot. I don't think he was... Initially, I thought that was one of the best animated depictions of drunk vision ever, because when I'm hammered, I watch my feet warm so you don't fall over. I think so. That's how I am drinking.

I do like the drunk acting. It's also Harry Shearer confronting himself. Yeah. Harry Shearer does a lot of talking to himself in this two-parter, though I said it in the part one, but I should have realized that was why he didn't do it. In part one, Doris says, perpetual darkness. That's just great. Smithers is walking behind her.

I thought that was him walking to meet Mr. Burns, wherever Mr. Burns ended up getting shot. But it was him leaving early to get to see, pardon my zinger. Yes, and I guess he was drinking during the town hall meeting because he wasn't that drunk when we see him. Yeah, he definitely had, I think he had the bottle in his hand there. He's been chugging it during the meeting. All I remember is that him coughing up

cigarettes in syndication made me want to have a cigarette so bad. I don't know, I'm sorry. I'm so far away from that now. I like his parched mouth when he wakes up. It's like old man mouth. And his destroyed apartment is pretty good. Pretty good design there. I also like Krusty's act out feels

like a callback to the glug glug vroom vroom thump thump. One of my favorite act outs. So then we give a visit to Jasper because they are still wondering how another old man wasn't reported being shot.

Can we take a look at your leg? Yeah, that's real spruce. I like it. Thank God. Sir, I only hope you can forgive me for shooting your wooden leg. You shot who and what now? Okay, Smithers, you're free to go.

And you, one question. Do you know who shot Mr. Burns? Because we are really up the creek on this one. Wiggum is a terrible cop. Terrible cop. Jasper, by the way, he did not have a fake leg when you're looking at his sandals for a paddling and PT'd his pants. Oh, you're right. It must have been a recent diabetes-related injury.

Could be. Could be. Could be. Though I can't say for sure that he kept a wooden leg in future appearances of Jasper, in all future appearances, because he appears quite a lot. And much like Jasper forgetting the end of the... Just because there's a little snow on the roof, I don't remember. But it's something, too, I caught only in this viewing. In the first act, both Smithers and Wiggum say the title of the episode.

Smithers says, I'm the one who shot Mr. Burns. Oh, wow. And Wiggum just there said, do you know who shot Mr. Burns? Because we are really up a creek here. Wow, I didn't even notice that. So they say the titular line. Titular line, baby. Merrill.

Merrill. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. We care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part. Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on

care. Did I mention that we care? We reference UCP so much on this though, Mike. Does anyone get this? Yeah, I don't think anyone does. It's very good. It's probably on some Comedy Central app somewhere. I have all the DVDs. It's fantastic. We were the losers watching Comedy Central going upright. It was very good. It's probably on some Comedy Central app somewhere. I have all the DVDs. It's fantastic. We were the losers watching Comedy Central.

Yes. It was quite unusual. We talked about that last time, right? We are Comedy Central nerds, the same way other people are like vinyl nerds. Totally. I've watched all of Strip Mall. All right. I have a crush on Julie Brown still.

I'm sorry. I watched several episodes of it. I remember that the woman who played the mother mother on margaret show margaret show so she was a lesbian on right that was a weird i hated that show because it replaced stranger with candy so much so that in the final episode of stranger with the candy their school was literally torn down for a strip mall because they're being replaced by the julie brown did nothing wrong all right fine fine but so the number one suspect is found innocent I love Kent Brockman saying is anyone is bloodthirsty as Waylon Smithers but

and and Lisa saying the true thing about like usually it is the first the original suspect like more often than not statistically and uh then Lisa has to become the she can't be in an act one because they just want to focus on smithers so but for act two and three lisa is the detective and she's the smartest person in springfield she she is well i don't think anyone in this family is capable of attempted murder you never know what you're capable of i I never thought I could shoot down a German plane. But last year, I proved myself wrong. Nancy Drew says that all you need to solve a mystery is an inquisitive temperament and two good friends.

And I've got an inquisitive temperament. Maybe I could help solve this. I think you're a little young to be investigating an attempted murder. Why don't you try to solve the mystery of who put that mud in the freezer? Who wants chocolate ice cream? Me! Me! Me! Me! Homer is a dog. They're like, me! Me! Me! Me! I hope Marge stepped in.

I hope she's eating the mud. That's a wonderful gag. You know what sucks? Whenever a character on The Simpsons quotes somebody, if you want to find out if it's a real quote, when you search that quote on Google, it's just the quote from the episode. That's all you can find, yeah.

So Nancy Drew fans, if that's really a line from Nancy Drew, let me know. I read The Boxcar Children. I didn't read Nancy Drew. I didn't read any of that shit. It's a Hardy Boys man. Or Encyclopedia Brown.

I read a lot of that. Lisa admitting she has no friends is great, too. I do love that. It's like, I have this one thing. But Marge is right. It is weird for an eight-year-old to investigate an attempted murder. So they take the bullet out of Burns, and they, at least if law and order has taught me anything, it's that when you take a bullet out of someone, it is a slug.

It is not a bullet that you put in the gun. The casing shouldn't be there. Yes, but they need it to be the exact bullet because they're going to compare it at the end of this act break. So then Lisa has a chat with the cops. Now, let's discuss the motive. Mr. Burns is the richest man in town. Maybe it's about money. That's some good thinking, Lou. Thanks, Chief.

Hey, I said that. My name is Lisa Simpson, and I made a chart of all the suspects in the Burns case. Look. So the cop, Eddie, never gets any good lines,

but in this episode, he's got two great lines when Lisa's telling him about Barney's motive. You know, he's sucking coins out of the love tester. That's Barney's income,

sucking coins out of the love tester. Eddie's disgusted. He goes, that's a real good way to get sick. It feels like he's warning children watching it. Like, don't try to do that. I just like his disgust. Like, ugh.

Yeah. And when I look back on this, I was just disappointed. Like, is there a deleted scene for Barney's alibi? Or do they just not care? Like, are they like, yeah, we don't need a Barney alibi. I think, I mean, Barney, it wasn't not just the income, it was also going to Moe's bar. It wasn't just like

the money he was sucking out of the love tester. Also, out of all the characters on the show to this point, Barney has definitely shot a gun. He's pointed a gun, that same gun at Homer to get him to give up the bear. The bear, the bear. So yes, Lisa goes over some of the motives. So what about that jazz teacher that got laid off?

You know, Mr. Sambas and your mambo? Tito Puente? Yeah. Well, he did vow revenge. But I can't see him doing something illegal. He's in show business. He's a celebrity. Let's roll, boys.

Revenge? Of course. But why wound his body with bullets when I could set his soul afire with a slanderous mumbo? Listen, if you will, to my revenge. Slanderous mumbo. Slanderous mumbo. That's what my name should have been. Shit.

Shit. So Oakley and Weinstein, they put Tito Puente in it because they knew Matt Groening was a fan and they wrote a song for him to sing because they thought he was a singer. He is not. He plays drums. He doesn't sing. Yes.

So this is officially done by Tito Puente and his Latin Jazz Ensemble. That's the official name of the group. I don't know who the singer is and I cannot fucking find out. It's a studio musician. It's a studio musician, but it's like, shouldn't he be credited? Shouldn't we know the name of the singer?

It's not Hank. It sounds like Hank Azaria, but it is not Hank. It's someone they hired. Actually, the design of the character may look familiar to you from season one. Yes. It is the I Could Love a Million Girls singer, who the wiki calls him Gulliver Dark, which was the name of a Sam McMurray character on Tracy Ullman that was the exact same kind of character.

The same haircut, no mustache, though. Holy shit. Yeah. Tracy Ullman should sue them again. She's got a case here. Son of a bitch. Son of a bitch. But I love the Set Your Burn song so much.

I listen to it so many times on CD, too. A million times, yes. And so I love it so much that I'm going to make the listeners hear the long version with the flute solo in it here. always carry with him. So I'll settle my score on the salsa floor with this vengeful Latin rhythm. Bird

Con el corazón de perro Señor Bird El Diablo Con Dinero It may not Surprise you but all of us Despise you Please die

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Here's a clip from 1987. So this one looking up what Scooby-Doo in the ghoul school is. It's Scooby-Doo ends up at Hogwarts slash Hotel Transylvania. So someone put this up as like the trailer. And it's like, this is clearly the end of the film because they're talking about the outcomes for all the characters. And it's in the form of a fucking rap by fucking Scrappy-Doo. So with the cadets, it was a snap to escape Revolta's trap. Now let's get loose and dance and clap while I lay on my scrappy wrap. Over there is Daddy Drack, who's glad to have his daughter back.

And all the guys from Calloway are here to dance the night away. Man, the science is too tight. Jump into the past with 302010 every Thursday on LasertimePodcast.com or iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Burn Con el corazón de perro And you'll burn El diablo con dinero It may not surprise you

But all of us Despite you Please die And fry In hell You rotten Wrecks Oh wrecks Adiós viejo Red or red

I'm your piano The show is so packed with information, it has to work in an entire song around all of that stuff, which is crazy to me. Like, wow, they... I mean, it's a great song, but it's like you're wasting so much mystery time with this song. You have no time for anything.

Dad, do I like Mambo? No, son. Do you like this song? The Señor Burns song. It is a I like Mambo? No, son. Do you like this song? The Señor Burns song? It is a beautiful song. Not written by Tito. It's written by Alf Clausen and the regular team. And I just love the lyrics.

And it's like, wounds last short, but this song will last forever. And then putting in some wonderful high school spanish that any of us can understand of the the heart of a dog adios old man uh the devil with money that's the that's what they say in spanish you settle your score on the salsa floor settle my score on the salsa floor it's such a great song and it lost the emmy i can't what did it lose to it lose to? Do we have a list? I had a Oh no, it's the Emmys for next year. 96. So it lost in the 1996 Primetime Emmy Awards in the Outstanding Individual Achievement

in Music and Lyrics, which sounds like a Burns Award. It lost to Let's Settle Down from the television remake of Bye Bye Birdie, which is like, that's a musical! A cover song one? Yes! Unbelievable. I hate that. I hate, Senor Burns is such a good song, that's a musical. A cover song one? Yes. Unbelievable. I hate that. I hate,

Senor Burns is such a good song. How dare a, look, Bye Bye Birdie's great. It's fine. I like it. It could have won an award like 40 years before this. So let it have that.

Let Oakley and Weinstein be Emmy Award winning songwriters. Well, I mean, on the bright side, everyone's still talking about the 1995 TV version of Bye Bye Birdie, right? Of course, yeah. But, alright, so,

we've got, it sounds like it's gonna be some exciting alibis coming up here. I love it. Okay, okay, I believe you're innocent. Gee, I hope all those suspects are as much fun. Hmm. Hmm. No.

Let, let me Hmm. No. Let me think. How? I did go to the town meeting with the intention of ambushing Mr. Burns. When it adjourned, I rushed to the lavatory to apply my camouflage makeup. Blast! I took Mother's makeup kit by mistake. Oh, excuse me, ma'am. Superintendent Chalmers.

Oh, my God. Sir, Superintendent Chalmers, can vouch for your whereabouts? Oh, yes. But anything else he tells you is a filthy lie. So right in that scene, Skinner admits he was going to kill Mr. Burns. It was his intention. It's a pretty good alibi. That's an arrestable offense.

I mean, Wiggum's really bad at his job. And Chalmers confuses Skinner in a suit and his normal haircut just with makeup on as a woman. You know, that's very nice of him. He doesn't define women by one look. That's true. I'm the one who's wrong here. Dender's fluid, Seymour. But I just love that that opens with the ticking clock, too, just to let you know, we're wasting this much time.

You're dying as you listen to this. It's just how bored Eddie, Lou, and Wiggum look as they're going. They're so frustrated. But the fact that it took until the final application of makeup to realize Skinner was making himself look like a woman and not a camouflage expert. I'm going to put your camo as red lipstick. Though I knew it wasn't Skinner because his gun had a silencer. That's true. So I re-hurt a gunshot. So it couldn't be him.

That's what blew my mind last time, if I can reiterate that again. They gave people very specific guns and they repeated it in the promo art. So you could have ruled out several suspects because Barney had a shotgun. That was not a shotgun blast. And there was three of them. These are all things that they went out of their way to leave clues for. And in that flashback shot too when he's applying the

makeup, it's still the same gun. They made sure it was the same gun. Willie's alibi, which would also explain, this alibi explains why he has an axe and not a gun in the flashbacks. I'm telling you, I could never have shot Burns. This is your last warning about that. It's impossible for me to fire a pistol.

If you'll check my medical records, you'll see I have a crippling arthritis in my index fingers. Look at them. I got it from Space Invaders in 1977. Oh, yeah. That was a pretty addictive video game. Video game? Space Invaders came out in 1978. All right. Let's have a Retronauts right now battle Space Invaders. One of the most popular

arcade games of all time. One of the earliest arcade hits made by Taito. It was so popular they ran out of 100 yen coins. That could be apocryphal. I don't know. of the arcade games of all time. One of the earliest arcade hits made by Taito. And that's about it. It was so popular they ran out of 100 yen coins. That could be apocryphal. I don't know. Are you fucking nerds trying not to talk about

Sharon Stone's vagina? Well, yes. Who hasn't seen it by now? I'm looking it up now. I bought it on DVD to see this sequence. 4K. No one had seen a vagina before.

Mostly Newman's reaction. Because it's really great that it's just Wayne Knight there in full Newman. First you see a little bit of between her legs and then Newman's face. It's like, even if you were getting turned on by that, you're just bashed in the face by Wayne Knight. When the dick is in your hand, you're going, Newman. Well, I mean, I will say as a 13-year-old discovering his sexuality, I was like, oh, this is good. No, Willie was like oh this is good no Willie

was like this feels interesting to me all right but it's the just these that he keeps doing it to the point that they pull a gun on the like yeah stop showing us your ball another great Eddie line he's in love that line but Space Invaders

though I I really love the DS game version of it the EX I believe it was I have a signed thing from the creator of Space Invaders from that and I believe all of the enemies are like sushi like things that you make into sushi so it had a more Japanese connection

but yes the story was with Space Invaders when it first came out in Japan that it was this is what I read in a video game history book correct me if I'm wrong. They're all wrong. I write them. So the story was that Space Invaders was hugely popular. It was made in response to Pong in Japan

that they would then places would buy multiple machines and keep them there and the Japanese men had to make more 100 yen coins because too many of them were sitting in the arcade cabinets. They didn't make enough coins to have them all be sitting in thousands of arcade cabinets. And the Japanese economy was so booming at the time, people would pay a dollar to play one game of Space Invaders instead of a quarter or like a dime.

Okay, so next. I say this is the line of the show. The line of all time. Oh, yes. That's the joke. Did you hold a grudge against Montgomery Burns? No. All right, maybe I did, but I didn't shoot him.

Checks out. Okay, sir, you're free to go. Good, because I got a hot date tonight. Odd date. Dinner with friends. Dinner alone. Watching TV alone. All right.

I'm going to sit at home and ogle the ladies in the Victoria's Secret catalog. See his catalog. Would you unhook this already, please? I don't deserve this kind of shabby treatment. Even his own body hates him. That's great.

Up There With Steamhams is one of the best condensed bits in The Simpsons, I think. I think it's up there with... It's 27 seconds. It's one of the up there with steam hams is one of the best condensed bits in the Simpsons. I think it's up there with one. It's 27 seconds. Yeah, it's one of the best bits of

all of any show ever. Yes, the escalation or de-escalation rather is great. And Azaria's performance makes it like it's just

like a date dinner, dinner with friends. The lies get less and less severe until he has to tell the truth. And Moe can just leave at any time. He's just like, I'm going to sit in this chair and explain my night to you guys. His defeat of Sears catalog is just so great.

He's a broken man. Yeah, we don't have the Sears catalog to wank to anymore, but it was vital to growing up as a young man. The bra ads in it, I guess. I remember in a gifted program arts and crafts contest, we had just discovered the Sears catalog, and they make a

collage, and we just did a whole poster board size, like a science fair, multiple sided board of just tits from the Sears catalog. It was unbelievable. I can't believe I did that. It's still out there somewhere. My name's on it. That was your official board for this.

It's more of a future serial killer side. I cut their heads off. That makes it better. So the point of those scenes is to deal with the last of the big suspects who aren't Simpsons because it's going to be all Simpsons and suspects from this point on i would

have liked a scene with barney i don't know but i mean nothing would top that mo scene anyway yeah then we cut to abe abe pouring orange juice on what i'm guessing is cereal which is pretty great and him lusting after his gun and then marge's reaction to thinking it was him talking about her she's like yeah so uh he dug up the gun before the town meeting. Yeah. Okay. We saw at the end of part one, we saw that it had been dug up. Right.

Right. It was the Smith and Wesson. Yeah. S and W. But that leads to nothing. But it leads to nothing other than making you think to grandpa did it because it's only because he's crazy. A little column A, a little column B that he acts so guilty.

He acts so guilty that it's really just because he's brained. And as a viewer, you can be like, well, Grandpa could shoot Burns and they would address it by not putting him in jail. He's like a crazy old man. They'll just be like, oh, Grandpa. I love also his list of things.

Who threw the cane at the TV? Yeah. This also taught me what a china hutch is. All right. Hands off my china hutch. Oh, yeah. Wait. Yeah.

Actually, I learned it already from Bart from buying it for a nickel from the Flanders. All right. So we get another very specific reference. It honestly was quite old in 1995. Very memorable. Oh, sure. Oh, sure. Chief, wait up. Don't eat the clues.

This here turns better. Yeah. I'm not following you. Huh? Look at Burns' suit! Yeesh! Ha, ha, ha. I had an idea chief how do we check out that suit burns was wearing when he got shot did you have the same backwards talking to him with the flaming cards i'll drive that's great i don't know what kind of voice harry shearer is doing for eddie it's just like this weird deadpan thing that i i don't remember him having before. No, he said it. Well, I'm used to Lou is just such a oppressive figure of the duo that it's hard to

remember any Eddie lines, really, other than like, that's what they're all saying down at the station. Well, we must be the worst parents of all time. That's what they're saying down at the station. So, Chris, I'd say you're the Twin Peaks expert of the three of us. No, are you kidding? The only reason I know Twin Peaks is because of this show.

My girlfriend and all my friends really like it. I only watched the first season. It's fortuitous that, like, man, Twin Peaks just wrapped up what Matt called in our Best Of show, like, one of the best things of 2017. They let David Lynch do whatever he wanted, and that was clear. It's like you either like it or you don't. Yeah. wanted to know was clear. It's like you either like it or you don't. So this is the red room in the black and white lodge from probably the most famous scene of Twin Peaks.

But I, most of it is silent, but I did get the backwards talk in here. I got good news. Last time you watched, he's dying too. Come back I don't know why I haven't seen this show.

I prefer Deadly Premonition. It's my favorite show at Twin Peaks. Well, the seasons one and two are on the Netflix, so you don't even need show time. No, I know. It's just one of those things like, hey, you got 24 hours? Nope. Well, Bob, that scene's just one of those things like, hey, you got 24 hours? Nope. Well, so, Bob, that scene is one of the most famous in it.

It's he, much like Chief Wiggum, he gets a clue while in the Red Room, does he? Not just having that little guy. Oh, deadly premonition? No, I mean in Twin Peaks. Oh, yes, yes, yes, in Twin Peaks, yes. But it's funny, it's like Lisa delivers the clue mysteriously, and then she shouts it at Wiggum,

and then only when Eddie says it does Wiggum decide to look at the suit. It's like nothing works on Wiggum. Nothing gets through. Even saying, look at Burns' suit, which I like that joke. It's a joke about Twin Peaks, too. As a viewer of Twin Peaks, most viewers probably want to go like, would you just say what you mean? Quit with this mystery.

Want to know who shot Laura Palmer? Or not shot, killed. So this episode, like I said, in a world where Nicole Brown Simpson is alive, would there be DNA, Simpson DNA, being such an important plot point in this episode? I just said she wasn't around to enjoy this. Fine television. Her and Ronald Goldman really should have enjoyed this. What, they got the whole town's DNA on file? If you've ever handled a penny, the government's got

your DNA. Why do you think they're keeping it in circulation? Scan's finished. Now it's going to narrow it down to the family bloodline. Homer Simpson! Bingo. That gunman has a name-o. Chief!

Chief! Chief! It was an odd choice to make Charles Bronson the lab tech. Yes, but I still... They have to bribe. I love few things more than people out of jail being bribed with cigarettes. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

He buys some cigarettes. Fucking wonderful. Just a carton of cigarettes. And him easily throwing out, like, oh, have you ever handled a penny? They've got your DNA. Anyway. And just to root it in like squarely in 1995, we wouldn't have a new Windows yet.

So we have the Windows ta-da noise. 3.1. Oh, I didn't realize that was from Windows. It stood out. Well, we used it on our old podcast. Oh, yes. But yeah, Windows noise. It made it to The Simpsons.

You're famous. In the DNA test, it was. We learned. America learned what DNA was from The Simpson thing. It was because people were like, well, he definitely did it. There's DNA, which DNA evidence is not as completely foolproof. A little less conclusive than we thought. No, I do like that. But still better than fingerprints?

DNA has freed so many people from death row that this is why I'm a staunch anti-death penalty person because even if you do kill the people who are bad, you've killed a lot. You can definitely be sure you've killed... The government has killed some innocent people. The number of innocent people who have been saved from death row thanks to dna test makes you go like gotta be dozens dozens we killed uh we as a government have way way more than that actually

i'm being nice nice to america with that so it's simpson dna and seemingly burns named homer simpson as his shooter it's a great little twist in that Burns can never remember Homer's name, but when he wakes up from his coma, that's all he can say is Homer Simpson. That's all he can say, yes. And that Smithers, now that he's cleaned up his act, he is back to Burns' side. So the SWAT team comes in. Sadly, SWATing was in the news recently. I don't want to get into that.

They're mainly devoted to breaking up the house instead of finding Homer. Yeah, they can't find Homer. They don't ask where Homer is. My favorite is just the insert shot of the guy breaking that lamp for no reason. Helping out the silverware behind them. But they have caught Homer. Hey, Chief Wiggum, what are you doing? What's going on?

I'm sorry, kid. We got Simpson DNA on Burns' clothing, and your father was identified by the old man himself. hey chief wiggum what are you doing what's going on i'm sorry kid we got simpson dna on burns his clothing and your father was identified by the old man himself dna positive id those won't hold up in any court hey ho look what i found under mr simpson's car seat i swear I've never seen that gun before. It didn't wear your fingerprints all over it, sir. Ah! This bullet matches the one we took out of Burns. Homer Simpson, you're under arrest for attempted murder. No! Ah, that's what they all say.

They all say no. I believe that was Nazaria. Yeah. A minor runner-up for line of the show. I think Nazaria added say doe the original line was that's what they all say and then the scene cuts but that's a great addition yep so seemingly they've caught homer and it is this is the one time the springfield police do a good job they accurately fingerprint him they identify the weapon and they find it well wiggum got a lot of help yes everyone did the job for him and they wouldn't it was because everybody else did it for him yeah that's

great and so they put homer in the paddy wagon they're going off and uh they stop for breakfast at the crusty burger and let me tell you as a fan of breakfast biscuits for mcdonald's don't get the pancakes it's so easy to make pancakes and they're just going to be cold little slivers of garbage. Get a breakfast sandwich or a McMuffin. Biscuits are the supreme breakfast item. And you can have it in your hands. What are you going to have?

Styrofoam plates? None of that is true. McMuffins for life. I mean, yes. Oh, for sure. All of those over pancakes. When I see somebody order pancakes at a McDonald's, I'm like, what are you doing? You foolish fool. Those pancakes are nothing. Hope you have fun with a plastic fork.

Jesus Christ. And then I'm glad that in the next time we see Wiggum, he has bandages on him because he should be dead. He is flattened by that car. Yeah. God, I hope he fell back into the window. And then in 1995, it's 1995, and they're doing a fugitive reference. Yeah, again, so Jasper in this episode is like the Judge Dredd

of paved surfaces. He wrestles Smithers for fancy walk-in and he pushes the police car out of the way because it's parked in the drive-thru. Drive-thru's ain't for parking. So he runs off the road and then what's Homer running in front of it is great animation. It's great animation and it is from the harrison ford fugitive when he escapes on the run

and as we found out from josh weinstein oh yeah tweeting it out what josh weinstein tweeting out is that there were extra scenes in the script they had to cut of homer on the run being chased by bloodhounds yeah we never find out how he gets out of his shackles after this. Yeah, it happens. We just see him posing as a doctor trying to kill Mr. Burns. The Fugitive, I watched it recently, really holds up.

Fun fucking movie. But I think The Critic is like 10% Fugitive parodies. It's 10% All Few Good Men parodies. Yeah. Maybe 5% Fugitive parodies. Got him. maybe two five percent uh fugitive parodies got him how surprised when there was a monoculture you could make fun of the same movie for 10 years and it was like oh we all saw this and i think it took so long because we'll see when the simpsons know something's going to be a phenomenon they can write it in the script and make fun of it early

except models inc they fucked that one up but the fugitive that's probably why they didn't want to make the mistake the fugitive i remember my dad that like, who gives a fuck about that show? Well, it's probably one of the most critically rewarded movies based off of a TV show ever. Tommy Lee Jones got his Oscar from it. And then we find out that Burns' positive ID might not be so good after all. Hi, everybody. Ho, me simp, son! Okay, that was a little strange.

Tell me, how are you feeling today? Homer. Simpson, Homer. Simpson. That seems to be all you can say. When you were in that coma, did you feel your brain getting damaged?

So, this is something I noticed this time in Harry Shearer's acting. It's not just that he's saying Homer Simpson. He is saying the responses to people, but you have to transpose them with the words Homer Simpson. It's the way BB-8 talks. So Dr. Nick comes in. Hi, everybody. Hi, Dr. Nick. Homer Simpson.

He's saying, hi, Dr. Nick nick but it's coming out homer simpson same with he's like how are you feeling homer simpson homer and when he's like homer simpson homer simpson he is saying the words which like he didn't have like that's extra great acting there yeah yeah i like it quite a lot sure he's really doing it in that he's but he's supposed to be the better hospital and yet nick riviera is there yeah why why is he doing it in that he's but he's supposed to be the better hospital and yet nick riviera is there yeah why why is he doing rounds in this hospital freelancing or something then lisa starts poking holes in the theory and about how maybe the cops planted the evidence or something no somebody planted the evidence and i also love her reaction to like marge misunderstanding what dna is

and lisa just lets it go the way she goes like marge says i took everything with it including dna which is wrong and lisa just goes sure mom and like strokes her arm like lisa could have an argument about this but that's not important right now she wants to be right about it but it's not important and it's a great bit of homer finding the lollipop and putting it in his pocket, which seems like just a good joke, but it will pay off. And then we get, apparently Homer was a fan of Alexander Haying back in 88, but Smithers knows exactly what Mr. Burns would want. Here is a photo of the fugitive from our files. And now Waylon Smithers, who's been a real good sport about that wrongful arrest thing,

has a statement that he would like to make. Waylon? Thank you. As Montgomery Burns' closest friend, I'm certain that there is nothing he would want more than swift, brutal revenge against Homer Simpson. Therefore, I am offering a $50,000 reward for his capture,

dead or alive. Oh, yeah. Me first. Me first. I am offering a $50,000 reward for his capture. Dead or alive. Me first! Me first! You need Wiggum there to be excited for because that is patently illegal. You can't do that. That's what they did in the Old West. Little or no civilian. Yes.

But obviously Mr. Burns is able to blot out the son if he feels like it. Smithers is not a murderer, but he's willing to pay people to murder for him. I feel like he is in such a low point yeah he's like i betrayed mr burns that now i have to be extra i have to be as evil as he would be if he could be right now there's somebody for 50 grand the government's gonna take like half that yeah that's true i mean wiggum's looking the other way he's not gonna arrest you it's a lot of 50 grand will take you a long way in in uh

if you're uh yeah especially if you're an upper lower middle class that's a lot of 50 grand will take you a long way in in uh springfield if you're uh yeah especially if you're an upper lower middle class that's a lot of hackers tickets so homer in the uh shot the photograph is wearing uh hagan 88 which alexander haig had been a chief of staff for multiple republican administrations he ran in the republican primary in 1988 trying to primary the vice presidential candidate H.W. Bush. I read a major gaffe of his was he was Reagan's secretary of state in his first term, I believe, maybe second term

too, but after Reagan was shot there was a press conference. He's like, I'm in charge now. It's like, wait, that's not how it goes. That's right, he did. It's like vice president, then the head of the Senate, and then there's a chain of command. He's far down the list. Sir, presidents never brag about their powers.

I heard they're fantastic. When you really care about someone, you shout it from the mountaintops. So on behalf of Desjardins Insurance, I'm standing 20,000 feet above sea level to tell our clients that we really care about you. Home and auto insurance personalized to your needs. Weird, I don't remember saying that part.

Visit Desjardins.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? And then meanwhile, Lisa has figured it out. Thanks also to a tip from a pigeon. So the DNA was right. It must have been... Oh, Dad! Intentional units, Homer Simpson has been sighted.

Proceeded once to Marvin Monroe Memorial Hospital. Be careful when we capture him. We cannot claim the reward unless we have 51 percent of the carcass that's right a bird solves the mystery yeah so seeing that clip and first viewing when i was 13 was great confirmation for me was i was like i spotted that he didn't have his gun in his pocket and that's what they show in that slow motion too just to confirm it though it still never hit me w and s or m and s that never i never caught that in my viewings but this is a great final increase of tension that like you know lisa knows but you don't know and you're dying like then tell us

lisa and her reaction to like so that means it must have been, oh, dad, you think, wait, so was it Homer? What? Who did it? It's a good tease. I like the tease. It's great. All right. So in every viewing before seeing the 138th episode of Spectacular, I never noticed that line ever.

The Marvin Monroe Memorial Hospital. All right. Was that the first time? It is. Wow. So in the 138th episode of Spectacular, they ask which two beloved characters died in the last season. I always thought it was the first confirmation that this character is not gone, but deceased. Yes.

Marvin Monroe. Behind the scenes, it was that Harry Shearer didn't like doing the voice, and apparently Matt Groening wasn't a big fan of him either. And he looked very season one-y. He's a very season one-y. Yeah, Simpsons design. Yes. Like two hairs for expressions. So he hadn't seen marvin monroe

in a long time and they then just put in a one-off line that it's a marvin monroe memorial hospital but i never heard that line it wasn't until i think reading the uh reading some fan book on it that's like that's why they say he's dead i watched that part two so many times but i never heard the line that it was the marvin monroe memorial hospital so it just confused me in the 138th episode it's like wait when did marvin monroe die i don't think they ever called it that afterwards the sign is always like springfield general hospital or whatever wherever it works so in a future episode uh when maude dies and they're in the they go through the graveyard and they kind of talk about every

lasting change they made on the show saying like the mill houses broke up apu had a bunch of kids now maude is dead they also go by the marvin monroe gravestone to again mark dead characters on the show same bleeding gums murphy they show his too but in the season 15 episode i know this diatribe of a mad housewife marvin monroe gets marge to sign a book for him and he says i've been oh very sick yeah but he's not dead so marvin has returned since then but at this time he was officially dead so that is the story of marvin he was dead for like a decade on the show everything converges in one spot in the Springfield Hospital this is like the most tension the show has ever had

and I love it but it's still funny yes stop! don't shoot my dad! he's innocent! he wouldn't hurt a fly stop telling him it was me!

I'll kill you for saying it was me what is the meaning of this who is this beast that's shaking me only on this viewing did i hear that instead of a scream it is dough high-pitched dough yeah and like just i i wouldn't be surprised if that was David Silverman when Homer, his hands go back when he screams dough. Like, dough! Yes, actually, Wes Archer and David Silverman animated that themselves because they were the only parts of the team that were allowed to, outside the writers, that were allowed to know that final scene, what happened in it. There are few things I find more beautiful than Homer taking that gun and pointing it at Burns' head.

I love that whole sequence. Quite dark. Quite dark him pointing the gun at him. And also that they animated it. It was animated during the summer, actually, as late as possible. And that Jeffrey Lynch from the previous episode was mad that he's like,

you're asking me to set up this stuff? I don't know the ending. That's right, he didn't know. I wonder if that's why he would quit soon after this episode also uh david merkin throughout the production process tried to leak the fake answer to many outlets but none of them wanted it wow he said it was the one time hollywood was honest he was trying to he he didn't say i'm dave merkin trying to do it either right right i'm an anonymous tipster and i know who the killer is. And that's, well, we're not going to play it in this because it's all in the 138th episode of Spectacular.

But all the fake endings they made were also to fool everybody else of like, well, maybe it could be Smithers. We animate a Smithers ending. They animated one new ending and like eight cut-ins where it's like everybody shooting burns including like a poo shoots him with an automatic gun like some gun sounds that don't make sense and smithers is the only one that is a complete ending that could have been used on the show i'm giving you a 10 pay cuts which there's an interesting bit on the commentary where dave merkin says he wrote that whole thing and he said it was the one time he's made oakley and weinstein laugh which felt like it was him saying these guys don't think i'm very fun and then he's i think he was i think he knows that they didn't like how wacky his seasons got to be and he wanted it to they

wanted it to be more down to earth in the next one but yeah so they had all the fake ones but we know who the real person who shot Mr. Burns was. Say it, Burns! Say I never shot you! Before. Shot? By you, I'm afraid not, my primitive friend. Your kind is neither the cranial capacity nor the opposable digits to operate a firearm. The one who shot me was... Maggie Simpson!

So not only does Mr. Burns not recognize Homer, he thinks he's an ape. Yep. A talking ape. That is quite cruel. Homer's sadness, I like when he kind of looks at his fingers after being told he can't shoot a gun. Also, like, apes can fire guns. Yeah, I dare an ape to shoot a guy i love that trilogy i want to throw a bushel of guns into like a gorilla preserve and see who shoots it first oh coba's faking it oh it's too late uh but that god damn it that so

the explanation when he explains it i will say that seeing what happened in the silhouette, I looked at that silhouette so many times trying to find clues from it. There are no clues in the silhouette. The clue is that it is a silhouette from headlights, not what Burns does. And it just felt so magical in first view to be like, this is what the silhouette was. Oh. So here is Burns explains it all, as I call this file. first viewing to be like, this is what the silhouette was! Oh! So, here's

Burns Explains It All, as I call this file. With the sunblocker in place in the town aghast, I was on top of the world. So I wanted to kick up my heels and indulge my sweet tooth. I feel like celebrating.

Oh, it's you! What are you so happy about? Huh? I see. Yes. That's the one. Smithers had thwarted my earlier attempt to take candy from a baby, but with him out of the picture, I was free to wallow in my own crepulence.

I think you'd better drop it. But the old axiom was misleading. Taking the candy proved exceedingly difficult. They said drop it! Stricken, I lurched forth in search of aid. But finding only slack-jawed cockers, i gave up and collapsed on the sundial then with your last ounce of strength you pointed to w and s or from your point of view m and s maggie simpson what no with my last ounce of strength, I sucked out my cold fillings and swallowed them. Those paramedics

have sticky fingers. The greatest thing is the biggest clue was an accident. It happened completely on accident. He didn't mean to do it at all. But one of the bigger, more subtle clues is the fact that if there was a struggle, everyone but Maggie would instantly overpower Burns. That's true. And that is one of the

main ways you could tell it's Maggie because Burns would lose instantly in a struggle to any adult human. We all knew he was weak. We should have realized that there would have been no struggle against anyone. And it was a bit of a callback to him trying to take back Bobo from her as well. Oh, you're right. Beaten by an infant. Damn you, paparazzo! I played a trivia game with my mom over the Christmas break

and guessing what the singular for paparazzi was one of the questions, and I was the only one that got it, and I said from this episode of the same time... You also know Graffito. Is that real too? I think so. It's graffiti to... Also, that TM saying,

wallowing in my own crapulence. Oakley Weinstein, love that line. As well as, it proved exceedingly difficult. It was not so easy to steal candy from a baby. I do love crappulence. So this is when, now the tension is all gone, and it feels right that Marge is

the one to say, everything goes back to normal. We're fine. Everything's fine. Well, I'm just relieved that Homer's safe and that you've recovered and we, everything goes back to normal. We're fine. Everything's fine. Well, I'm just relieved that Homer's safe and that you've recovered and we can all get back to normal. If Maggie could talk, I'm sure she'd apologize

for shooting you. I'm afraid that's insufficient. Officer, arrest the baby. Yeah, right, Pops. No jury in the world is going to convict a baby. Maybe Texas. Besides, she didn't mean it it was an accident

the shifty eyes yeah it's great actually i was watching uh the season 18 episode recently and had a joke i didn't like in it where uh i forget what the setup is but homer says like the time i shot mr burns and blame maggie or like it looked like maggie did it yeah so they they've made fun of this before in the past well yeah i mean they made fun of this after the fact they also had a future one where burn says uh he says he wanted to see lisa and they think like oh you mean maggie's like the baby that shot me no no, thank you. And Maggie even does like a finger gun at Burner, which is a cute joke. But I wonder, the opening chalkboard gag is, I will not complain about the ending once I know it. And I wonder if that was Oakley Weinstein getting ahead of thinking that the ending sucked or that it made Maggie suck.

It sucked like a pacifier. With the amount of hype in this episode, it was bound to disappoint some people. It was not going to be the perfect ending people wanted. But I was fine with the ending. It didn't make me mad as a kid. I didn't think it was anticlimactic. I think it didn't make me mad.

It just took me years to revisit this as an episode of something special and worth re-watching because I was hinging it all on this cliffhanger, which ultimately doesn't matter that much. They made you think it mattered because they spent a lot of money making you think it mattered. And this is a great episode but I think part one is much better because it's all set up and the payoff

is not as fun and they do a lot of recapping too which he took a lot of time. Can you imagine showing this to someone who's never seen it before? That would be so much fun. Yeah, you're right. They have to spend a ton of time recapping and also set aside almost 90 seconds for a tita puente song that's right a great song a great song this this is fun not as good as part one but this is as a whole they're great they're fine sad watching this because i do think it's all downhill quality wise here

for the simpsons i think this is downhill is me. Every episode that's coming up for the next four years of this podcast, I still think is very good to amazing. It's more of a plateau for me. I guess plateau. I just feel like we've reached the peak. I don't know. The next episode is one of my all-time favorites, too. And the one after that is even better. Thanks for listening, folks. It's been a long episode, but we got to the end of my all-time favorites, too. And the one after that's even better, I think. Yes. So, yes, thanks for listening, folks.

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