Tangle - Biden's new asylum rules.

Starting point is 00:00:00 From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we're going to be talking about Biden's newest border policy, and I'm going to share some of my opinions about it. He issued a new executive order that could have some impact, but as I think you'll see, maybe isn't going to withstand legal scrutiny. Before we jump in, I want to give you a heads up that tomorrow in our Subscribers Only Friday edition, I'm going to be talking about three things I was wrong about. We promised this piece

Starting point is 00:00:57 last week, but we ended up pushing it out after the Trump verdict came down. So tomorrow, I'm going to reflect a bit on three my take sections that I think I was wrong about. In the piece, I'm going to be revisiting my take on Biden's interview with Robert Herr, Mike Johnson as speaker, and the Samuel Alito controversy. And a quick reminder that Friday editions in the newsletter are for Tangle members only. We'll send a free preview of tomorrow's edition to everyone, but if you want to read the whole thing, you'll have to become a TanglePang member. Tangle members get Friday and Sunday editions of the newsletter, as well as ad-free newsletters and access to our entire archive of over a thousand articles. I am going to see if I can get a podcast version of that up,

Starting point is 00:01:40 but no promises. We've got a crazy week this week, and this is one that's just really important to be written and put out there and referencing some past newsletters. So become a member. You'll get the newsletter in your inbox, and if not, we'll see you on Sunday. All right, with that, I'm going to pass it off to John for today's main story, and I'll be back for my take and our reader question. Thanks, Isaac, and welcome, everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, a gunman was arrested after opening fire on the U.S. Embassy in Beirut. Five others were also taken into custody. Number two, New York Governor Kathy Hochul indefinitely paused New York City's congestion pricing plan just weeks before it was set to go into effect. Number three, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg argued former President Trump's gag order should stay in effect through his sentencing in a letter made public on Wednesday.

Starting point is 00:02:39 Number four, Israel began an intense military operation in central Gaza where dozens of Palestinians were reportedly killed during clashes with military combatants. Separately, more than a dozen pro-Palestinian protesters were arrested after barricading the Stanford University president's office. And number five, the Georgia Court of Appeals paused further proceedings related to the 2020 election interference case against former President Trump until it hears the case to disqualify Fannie Willis in October. We want to start, though, with this news. President Biden taking executive action this afternoon that will restrict asylum processing along the U.S.-Mexico border. The action will allow officials to turn away migrants that enter the U.S. illegally without hearing their asylum claims.

Starting point is 00:03:34 President Biden is facing backlash after announcing a new immigration policy. His order authorizes U.S. immigration officials at the southern border to deport large numbers of migrants without processing their asylum claims. The new policy went into effect yesterday morning and is leading to some confusion, especially among migrants. We don't 100% understand it. How could they possibly understand what's going on? They probably haven't even heard of it. You know, there's not like there's radio or TV out

Starting point is 00:04:06 here. And the way they've been traveling, they're not going to know. On Tuesday, President Joe Biden issued an executive order to temporarily shut down all asylum requests at the U.S. southern border when the seven-day average of daily encounters at official ports of entry tops 2,500 per day. The measure grants authorities the power to quickly deport migrants caught crossing illegally or turn them back to Mexico, with exceptions for unaccompanied children, people who face serious medical or safety threats, and victims of trafficking, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security said.

Starting point is 00:04:41 Since that threshold has already been met, the shutdown went into effect at 12.01 a.m. on Wednesday and won't lift until encounters fall below a daily average of 1,500. The order leverages presidential authority under the Immigration and Nationality Act sections 212F and 215A, suspending entry of non-citizens who cross the southern border into the United States unlawfully. In 2018, the Trump administration tried to enact a restriction based on the same text, but was blocked by the courts. Biden's executive action now faces similar legal challenges. At a press conference, President Biden

Starting point is 00:05:15 said the move was motivated by a neat act contrasting his motivations to those of former President Donald Trump. This action will help us to gain control of our border, restore order to the process, Biden said. I will never demonize immigrants. I will never refer to immigrants as poisoning the blood of a country. And further, I'll never separate children from their families at the border. The move comes at a time when President Biden

Starting point is 00:05:38 trails former President Trump at the polls, with border security a main criticism of Biden's administration and immigration a top issue among voters. As a result, many conservatives are skeptical of Biden's decision, believing it to be a cynical attempt to appear to address the issue. If it's in line with the way he's acted before, it's going to be too little too late, said Representative Juan Sisco-Mani, Republican from Arizona. Some Democrats defended the action, pointing the finger at Republicans for failing to accept a bipartisan border bill in February and requiring the president to act unilaterally. President Biden has been clear from the beginning he prefers legislation,

Starting point is 00:06:15 but given how obstinate Republicans have become, turning down any real opportunity for strong border legislation, the president is left with little choice but to act on his own, said Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. Other Democrats reacted differently. Members of the party's progressive wing criticized the move, with Representative Pramila Jayapal, the Democrat from Minnesota, chair of the Progressive Caucus, saying she was profoundly, profoundly disappointed in the executive order, calling it a step in the wrong direction. Today, we're going to take a look at what the right and the left have to say about the executive order, and then Isaac's take.

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Starting point is 00:09:40 I've done all I can do, just give me the power, he then claimed, while trying to get Congress to sign a bill that would further entrench the disorder and abuse asylum claims his policies initiated, the editors wrote. It turns out there's something more Joe Biden can do. He can blow smoke through the use of executive orders in a desperate attempt to hide the mess his administration created. created. The claim is that the new executive order will impel administration officials to close the border once the seven-day average of illegal entries hits 2,500 per day. But there are many loopholes that allow the administration to avoid this and continue to admit bogus asylum seekers at a rate of over 1 million per year. The executive order would not address the 1,500 migrants per day who use the CBP1 app at ports of entry. It doesn't affect the tens of thousands of migrants a month who fly directly to the United

Starting point is 00:10:31 States and are paroled into the country, the editor said. What the Biden administration has done consistently is propose rules that allow them to waive in more immigrants but advertise new guidelines as border control measures. In town hall, Guy Benson called the order an insulting sham. Biden and his team manifestly do not care about the crisis itself, as evidenced by their policies and behavior over the last three-plus years. And a wide swath of polling demonstrates that immigration and the border is both a top concern for voters and a very bad issue set for the incumbent, Benson said. When attacking Republicans didn't do the trick, Biden and

Starting point is 00:11:10 company magically rediscovered power levers they'd frequently told Americans he couldn't access. Because the administration is setting a border shutdown threshold, at least on paper, they're not conceding that the border can be shut down. They have the ability to do it. They're just not, Benson added. After 10 million illegal crossings, 2 million known gotaways, numerous deaths and other serious crimes, untold human misery, billions flowing into the cartel's coffers, and hundreds of suspected terrorists getting caught at the border, it's unknowable how many highly dangerous illegal immigrants were among the population of gotaways, this president has absolutely no regrets about his decisions to reflexively cancel successful immigration policies because they were associated with his predecessor. In the Washington Post, George F. Will wrote,

Starting point is 00:11:59 The too-little-too-late president strikes again. Regarding border security, as when combating inflation or aiding Ukraine, Biden is a too little too late president. Presidents from both parties have become geysers of executive orders, imposing tariffs, essentially banning internal combustion vehicles, forgiving student debts, altering the legal status of millions of immigrants, etc. What fun, Will said. Until it isn't. Until the public, taught by presidential high-handedness that presidents can do whatever they please, blames them for whatever problems persist. This is both unfair and richly deserved.

Starting point is 00:12:37 Today's Congress, which has been well described as cable television's largest green room, escapes blame from the immigration disaster because the public, fixated on the presidency, knows that, for Congress, governance is a spectator sport, Will wrote. In five months, Biden, who is too busy saving democracy to attend the mundane matters of public order, might find that immigration inundation is the most politically lethal of his multiplying failures. All right, that's it for what the right is saying, which brings us to what the left is saying. The left is also critical of the order, arguing that Biden's administration priorities are misguided. Some note that many of Biden's border policies now mirror Trump's. Others say that Biden is doing what he can on an issue that can't be

Starting point is 00:13:30 solved alone. In the New York Times, Andrea A. Flores said, to win on immigration, Biden must move the debate beyond the border. Mr. Biden may think that shutting the border to asylum seekers will improve his standing with voters, but he is falling into the trap of believing that the only way to counter Republican criticism and appeal to voters for whom immigration is a top concern is to restrict asylum even further, Flores wrote. Though there's little to be done about this now-recycled immigration policy, Mr. Biden has a moral obligation to use his legal authority to protect the communities he promised to defend four years ago while on the campaign trail. That would be a smart political move. Our nation's immigration challenges transcend the border.

Starting point is 00:14:14 The president can set himself apart by taking a more holistic approach. To do so, he can enact policies that benefit immigrants and Americans alike, Flores said. Biden could use his executive power to shield immigrants from deportation and allow them to work legally. Even temporary protections of this kind could have a profound effect on people's lives. Biden could also extend temporary protected status to more people, which he has already done for some immigrants to great success. Under the law, Mr. Biden has the discretion and power to give

Starting point is 00:14:45 temporary legal status to people fleeing their homes because of natural disasters and conflict. In CNN, Raul Reyes wrote, Biden is taking a page out of Trump's immigration playbook. It's easy to see why the president felt he needed to act. Biden has faced intense pressure from conservative Republicans, as well as some moderate Democrats, to take action on immigration, Reyes said. But make no mistake, this executive order is a step backwards. The plan is unlikely to have much of an impact solving our border crisis and runs the risk of alienating some of Biden's political allies. It's ironic that Biden, who once denounced many of Trump's immigration measures, now embraces them.

Starting point is 00:15:30 With his new executive order, Biden is again contradicting his stated principles. In 2019, Biden said, The idea that a country of 330 million people cannot absorb people who are in desperate need and who are justifiably fleeing oppression is absolutely bizarre, Reyes wrote. How unfortunate that the same president who championed the rights of asylum seekers seems to be willing to toss aside their legal and human rights so easily. On a broader level, Biden's action is disappointing because it plays to misguided fears that asylum seekers and migrants are a threat to the most powerful nation in the world. In New York Magazine, Ed Kilgore asked,

Starting point is 00:16:10 Is Biden's border crackdown too much too late? Despite significant recent drops in border crossings, the cap is below what we've seen lately, about 3,700 per day. But the reaction to this new policy indicates that Biden may be in danger of falling between two stools, as has arguably been the case with his policies towards Israel's war in Gaza, Kilgore said. So is Biden's action simultaneously draconian but too tardy to matter? Is it too much too late? That's hard to say. It's unlikely that voters for whom immigration is a decisive issue are going to be satisfied with a cap on migrant border crossings, unaccompanied by more general restrictions on immigration and or deportation of undocumented people. No matter what Biden does, he will never be able to compete with Trump as a professed border guardian unless he's willing to take

Starting point is 00:16:55 steps that really would create a revolt among Democrats. But what this step and others might do is reduce the salience of the border crossing and thus allow voters to focus on subjects more congenial to the president, Kilgore wrote. Making the best of a bad situation may be the most Democrats can hope for on immigration, an issue that in living memory used to help them more than it hurt them. All right, let's head on over to Isaac for his take. All right, that is it for what the left and the right are saying, which brings us to my take. So first, let's just stipulate, because somehow this is still necessary, that we are in fact seeing an unprecedented level of migration and border encounters. There's a chart that I tweeted out from the Wall Street Journal showing numbers

Starting point is 00:17:50 from the last three administrations. You can see that under former presidents Trump and Obama, the numbers were almost always just under 500,000 per year or right at 500,000 per year. And the next highest in that time span was actually Trump's third year in office in 2019. In 2021, 2022, and 2023, these numbers have exploded, and 2024's numbers are on track to be even higher. We're in a really bizarre situation here. Biden just spent months telling voters that without an immigration bill voted down in the House earlier this year, or without Congress more broadly, there was nothing more he could do to address the migrant crisis at the border. Now, his administration is championing precisely the kind of action he could have taken a year or two ago to address the border crisis, proving that

Starting point is 00:18:40 there were things he could do to address the border. But also, and this is where it gets a little bizarre, this action is probably going to be struck down by the courts, which will prove Biden's original point, that he needs Congress to do anything really meaningful on the border. In addressing the problem, I think this executive order is going to do more good than bad, but it isn't exactly good. It's likely going to get struck down by the courts, it has come too late, and it is transparently Biden responding to voters being upset about

Starting point is 00:19:10 immigration, not him leading on the issue. Some elements of this crisis I don't blame exclusively on Biden. President Trump didn't face this kind of crisis. I'm positive that his policies served as a deterrent to would-be migrants, but he also served mostly in a pre-COVID era, and the global rebound from COVID has created a different and unique migration situation. For instance, the economies of the U.S. and other Western countries have recovered from COVID comparatively well when contrasted with the global South, and that imbalance almost always induces high levels of migration North. To me, this executive order reveals what really should be a debate about our broken asylum system. More than

Starting point is 00:19:51 anything else, we have an incentive problem. If you cross the border illegally, promptly turn yourself in, and then request asylum, you won't be turned away because you have not broken any asylum laws. Instead, you'll get into the U.S. faster than you would have if you went to a legal port of entry and requested asylum, which is exactly why so many migrants cross illegally. The other problem with our system is that the people who cross illegally to request asylum effectively get what they want, at least temporarily. They often get to stay in the U.S., they can seek out work, and the simple fact of being here offers a modicum of safety to those with genuine asylum claims. Of course, most of the people claiming asylum don't actually get it once their cases are heard. Once their hearings come around, often after months or years, asylum

Starting point is 00:20:35 seekers don't qualify and they get deported after all. Some skip those hearings or simply work here for a couple of years and quietly return home after. There are a few ways to solve this problem. The first option is the piecemeal way Biden is going about it, acting through small-scale executive orders to address the issue in aggregate. This recent executive order provides one more piece. Use executive authority to reduce the number of people who can cross illegally per day, then start deporting or rejecting people even if they are making asylum claims. The cap is simple, applying to all people regardless of their need, inevitably turning away a bunch of people who have legitimate asylum claims. That is an obvious issue, but a cap would help because it reduces the inflow, allows the system to catch up,

Starting point is 00:21:19 and reduces the strain on our resources to manage migrants. Biden has added some other small pieces too, like rolling out the CBP1 app to try to funnel migrants through legal immigration channels and requiring more migrants to show proof they applied for asylum in the countries they pass through. However, those actions have not done nearly enough to resolve the backlog of several million asylum cases we currently have. In fact, CBP1 users are exempt from this most recent order. Here's option two. Make the system for taking in migrants more robust, adding more personnel to quickly and efficiently suss out who is abusing the system and who has a genuine asylum claim. This is my solution, and one favored by many organizations who take a more

Starting point is 00:22:03 restrictive stance on immigration. This approach could involve deputizing the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the USCIS Asylum Corps officers, to act as the immigration court, then beefing up the number of those officers and their training. It would also mean increasing staffing for the actual immigration courts to more quickly reject or deport those without legitimate claims and welcome legitimate asylum seekers. In other words, we could get a grip on our immigration system while also upholding an altruistic vision of our country as a refuge for those seeking a better

Starting point is 00:22:34 life, all while creating a deterrent for anyone thinking about abusing the system. Option three is to amend U.S. asylum law. Like the second option, this requires Congress, but the idea is just as simple. We could disallow asylum applications if someone crosses the border illegally and make sure anyone here illegally can't apply for status to withhold their deportation once they get here, which is another loophole in the system. This could be done without the asylum cap in Biden's executive order and as a piece of legislation could survive court challenges and new administrations. The major downside is it would be a violation of the UN's 1951 convention relating to the status of refugees and international law protecting asylum seekers who cross illegally that we have long adhered to. I prefer the second

Starting point is 00:23:20 option because it can work while upholding some of our higher values, but I also like the third option because it would substantially relieve some of the pressure on our overly strained system. Right now, we're getting the first option. That may help temporarily, but it's not a real long-term solution. It's come too late, and it's probably illegal, which, for what it's worth, is basically a description of all of our immigration reform efforts, or lack thereof, for the last 20 years. Based on Charles Yu's award-winning book, Interior Chinatown follows the story of Willis Wu, a background character trapped in a police procedural who dreams about a world beyond

Starting point is 00:24:04 Chinatown. When he inadvertently becomes a witness to a crime, Willis begins to unravel a criminal web, his family's buried history, and what it feels like to be in the spotlight. Interior Chinatown is streaming November 19th, only on Disney+. The flu remains a serious disease. Last season, over 102,000 influenza cases have been reported across Canada, which is nearly double the historic average of 52,000 cases. What can you do this flu season? Talk to your pharmacist or doctor about getting a flu shot. Consider FluCellVax Quad and help protect yourself from the flu. It's the first cell-based flu vaccine authorized in Canada for ages 6 months and older,

Starting point is 00:24:40 and it may be available for free in your province. Side effects and allergic reactions can occur, and 100% protection is not guaranteed. Learn more at flucellvax.ca. All right, that is it for my take, which brings us to your questions answered. This one's from Doug in Wichita, Kansas. Doug said, regarding the wars in Ukraine and in Israel, why does Russia get a free pass committing genocide and Israel not? Russia has been bombing hospitals, theaters, shopping centers, apartment complexes, etc. from the beginning, before Israel was even attacked. I see no logic or rationale. If genocide is against the rules, it should especially apply

Starting point is 00:25:25 to Russia as the aggressor. So this is an interesting question to me, but probably not for the reason you'd think. I was recently invited to give a TED Talk, and we hope we'll have some video of that soon, about bias in media. I decided to focus on language choices and how the words that we choose often do more to signal our membership in a political tribe than to communicate an idea to another person. One of my recommendations to improve our political communication was to make sure we agree on the definition of the terms we use. I don't think there is a term used in the political debate today that has a less agreed upon definition than genocide. So, before answering your question, I think there are other questions we have to answer, starting with what do we mean by genocide? And that's where I thought

Starting point is 00:26:09 this question was really interesting, because it looks like you're using it to mean the killing of a large number of civilians. This is clarifying for me because I think other people have been using genocide this way too. But that's not what the word means, and I don't want to excuse or dismiss the killing of innocent civilians as morally acceptable. In fact, I've been very insistent and entangled that civilian deaths in Gaza and in Ukraine and wherever else they occur are unacceptable tragedies, completely terrible. Just because some actions are one terrible thing doesn't make them another terrible thing. Genocide, since the term's creation in 1948, is defined as the targeted killing, in whole or in part, of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. In World War II, the killing of 6 million Jews by the Germans fell under that

Starting point is 00:26:54 definition. However, Germany killed over 13 million Russians during World War II, and we don't call that a genocide. We usually say those civilian deaths and others from the last two world wars were part of total war and would now call bombings of civilian centers war crimes. To me, some of what we're seeing from Russians or Israelis constitute war crimes, but I wouldn't call either genocidal. Some experts agree with me on that, but others disagree, and for what it's worth, Russia is formally being accused of genocide. The kernel of disagreement is over the efforts Israel is or isn't taking to prevent civilian deaths and the focus on the statement of intent by some members of Israeli government as genocidal intent. I would say that those kinds of statements are absent in Russian leadership who have also been saying, problematically

Starting point is 00:27:39 for different reasons, that Ukrainians are ethnic Russians, making genocide pretty tough to argue. All right, that is it for today's reader question. I'm going to send it back to John for the rest of the pod, and I'll see you guys on Sunday. Thanks, Isaac. And here's your Under the Radar story for today, folks. In recent months, President Biden has struggled to remember key details in meetings, raising concerns his mental acuity is slipping, according to a new report from the Wall Street Journal. The journal interviewed 45 people over several months who either participated in meetings with Biden or were briefed on them. Most who questioned Biden's performance were Republicans, but some Democrats also expressed concerns. Examples include meetings

Starting point is 00:28:25 where Biden spoke so softly that it was difficult to hear him, extended pauses in the middle of discussions, and instances where he forgot key details about his own policies. After the article was published, several Democrats who went on record for the story said they were not quoted and their perspectives were not represented in the piece, accusing the journal of presenting a skewed impression of Biden's mental state. The journal's piece and a summary of pushback from Democrats can be found in links in today's episode description. All right, next up is our numbers section.

Starting point is 00:29:00 The U.S. Border Patrol's total encounters with people unlawfully attempting to enter the U.S. in fiscal year 2020 was 405,036. The U.S. Border Patrol's total encounters in fiscal year 2021 was 1,662,167. Recidivism rate, the percentage of individuals apprehended more than one time by the Border Patrol within a fiscal year, in the fiscal year 2020, was 26%, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection. The recidivism rate in fiscal year 2021 is 27%. The percentage decrease in apprehensions at the border between December 2023 and May 2024 is 54%, according to CBS News. The percentage of likely voters who say immigration will affect how they vote is 68%, according to a May 2024 poll by the University of South Florida. The percentage of likely voters who support increasing the number of Border Patrol agents on the U.S. southern border is 77%. The percentage of U.S. voters who say they trust Donald Trump and Joe Biden, respectively, on handling immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border is 47% and 30%,

Starting point is 00:30:13 according to a May 2024 poll by ABC News Ipsos. And the percentage of U.S. voters who say undocumented immigration is a problem in their community is 46%. All right, and last but not least, our Have a Nice Day story. In honor of the 80th anniversary of the Allied Forces landing on the beaches in Normandy, France is paying respects to the few living veterans of the Western Allied Forces in a week-long commemoration that started on Monday. Among those honored was Jake Larson, a 101-year-old American best known on social media under the name Papa Jake. I'm lucky to be alive, more than lucky. I had planned D-Day, and everybody else that was there with me is gone, said Larson, who now lives in Lafayette, California. Here I am, 101, without

Starting point is 00:31:03 an ache or a pain in my body. How is that possible? Somebody up there likes me. Spectrum News has this story, and you can also find Papa Jake's Instagram page in links in today's episode description. All right, everybody, that is it for today's episode. As always, if you'd like to support our work, please go to readtangle.com and sign up for a membership. As a paid member, you get access to Friday our work, please go to readtangle.com and sign up for a membership. As a paid member, you get access to Friday and Sunday newsletters. And going forward in the future, there is going to be even more content that we are currently releasing as free that will eventually be behind the paywall. So it's a good time to check out that content and see all the benefits you'll get by becoming a member.

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