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Starting point is 00:04:40 for today. First up, the Georgia Supreme Court reinstated the state's six-week abortion ban, overruling a decision from a trial court judge last week that found the law to be unconstitutional. Number two, the Supreme Court will hear a challenge to the Biden administration's 2022 regulation on untraceable firearms or ghost guns. Number three, New York City Deputy Mayor Philip Banks and two other aides to Mayor Eric Adams resigned on Monday. Banks is the sixth senior official to leave the Adams administration in the past month as the mayor faces a five-count federal corruption indictment. Number four, the Biden administration imposed sanctions on members of an international

Starting point is 00:05:18 fundraising network that it says is playing a key role in funding Hamas. And number five, Ukraine's military says it struck a large oil terminal used to support the Russian army. In a sweeping new court filing, the special counsel is shedding new light on his 2020 election interference case against Donald Trump, arguing the former president is not immune from prosecution because when he sought to overturn his 2020 loss, he was fundamentally acting as a private candidate and resorted to crimes to try to stay in office. One hundred and sixty five page report is split into four parts.

Starting point is 00:06:03 The 165-page report is split into four parts. The evidence against Trump, the legal issues with presidential immunity, how Smith's evidence is not protected by immunity, and what the government is asking the court to do. On Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan unsealed Special Counsel Jack Smith's latest filing in United States v. Donald Trump concerning alleged criminal allegations committed by the former president following his defeat in the 2020 presidential election. In the filing, Smith argues that Trump resorted to crimes to remain in power

Starting point is 00:06:34 and was acting outside the scope of his official duties as president when he pressured state officials and then-Vice President Mike Pence to overturn his 2020 election laws. Pretrial hearings for the case have been scheduled up until October 29th, pushing off a trial until after Election Day and likely making the 165-page filing the Justice Department's last chance to detail their case against Trump to the public before November 5th. The filing itself was controversial as prosecutors typically withhold their evidence before trial. However, Judge Chuckkin allowed Smith to submit a lengthy filing laying out his case, even after calling it procedurally irregular. Earlier this year, the Supreme Court ruled that presidents have

Starting point is 00:07:14 broad immunity for official acts as one of their core constitutional powers. You can read our coverage of the case's progression with a link in today's episode description. In the new filing, Smith's team argues that Trump's scheme was fundamentally a link in today's episode description. In the new filing, Smith's team argues that Trump's scheme was fundamentally a private one, making it eligible for prosecution. The brief was primarily composed of previously reported conduct made public through news articles and a congressional investigation into January 6th. However, the special counsel's filing contained some new details. In one passage, prosecutors allege that Trump responded to a White House aide telling him that Vice President Mike Pence had been taken to a secure location during the Capitol

Starting point is 00:07:48 riots with, so what? Additionally, the brief details of White House staffer hearing Trump tell family members on board Air Force One that it doesn't matter if you won or lost the election, you still have to fight like hell. Prosecutors also allege that a private political advisor, whose name is redacted in the files, told a gathering of supporters before the election that Trump was planning to declare victory before the night was over. Separately, Trump personally hounded Pence to reject the certification of the election, allegedly telling him when there's fraud, the rules get changed, and encouraging Pence to be bold. Finally, Smith and his team said they

Starting point is 00:08:23 unearthed emails showing campaign staffers acknowledging the team was spreading falsehoods about the election. When our research and campaign legal team can't back up any of the claims made by our elite strike force legal team, you can see why we're 0-32 on our cases, one campaign advisor said in an email, according to Smith. I'll obviously hustle to help out on all fronts, but it's tough to own any of this when it's all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership. Stephen Chung, Trump's spokesperson, called the entire case a partisan, unconstitutional witch hunt that should be dismissed entirely, together with all the remaining Democrat hoaxes, adding that the latest filing was riddled with falsehoods. Today, we're going to break down some of the views from the right and the left about the new filing, and then Isaac's take. We'll be right back after this quick break.

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Starting point is 00:10:18 Learn more at Canada.ca slash ItPaysToKnow. A message from the Government of Canada. All right, first up, let's start with what the right is saying. The right suggests the filing is legally flawed and politically motivated. Some criticize the media's approach to covering the case. Others say Smith's revised indictment is appropriate in light of the Supreme Court's immunity ruling. In National Review, Andrew C. McCarthy wrote about Jack Smith's damning, political, and legally flawed J6 filing against Trump. The submission is thorough and damning. No surprise there. Smith's indictment of Trump in the so-called January 6th case was thorough and damning. A prosecutor's case, like a football team's game plan, never looks better than it does on paper

Starting point is 00:11:09 before it experiences first contact with the opposing team, McCarthy said. If Smith's proffer were a real legal exercise, Judge Tanya Chutkin might well have kept the evidence sealed. Chutkin has not appended Smith's submission with any of those fundamental due process protections. She's just released it to the press. the opposite of what a judge concerned about the jury pool and the defendant's fair trial rights would do. The point of Smith's tome, and the publication of it by the Obama-appointed Chutkin, is to get the J6 evidence, chapter and verse, into the hands of the media Democrat complex and the Harris campaign. Waiting was not an option. Smith's original plan, with

Starting point is 00:11:45 Chutkin's cooperation on timing, was to gift Democrats with a trial and conviction in the campaign's stretch run. That became impossible, so the proffer is the best he can do. In the Federalist, M.D. Kittle argued the filing is solely designated to generate headlines before the election. As October surprises go, Wednesday's redacted release wasn't much of a surprise. Smith's brief asserting that Trump as president was not entitled to immunity and basic constitutional rights was highly anticipated by the vultures in corporate media and is, as expected, loaded with dubious legal claims, Kittle said. But making it public on October 2nd, as absentee ballots go out

Starting point is 00:12:25 across the country, was designed to maximize political damage to a Republican presidential candidate who has survived everything, including a bullet, that the left has fired at him. As expected, the accomplice media gobbled up Smith's motion for immunity determinations, dutifully pushing the Democratic National Committee's talking points that Trump is a threat to democracy, Kittle wrote. By releasing the political prosecution docs now, Democrats and their friends in corporate media will have the next few weeks to further paint their anti-democracy narrative that the Republican Party's presidential candidate should be in prison, not on the ballot. In The Hill, Alan Charles Rawls said, Jack Smith is prosecuting candidate Trump, not President Trump.

Starting point is 00:13:06 In the case of the president, it can be challenging to draw the distinction because most of his or her activity will be mixed. There will be a combination of official and political motives, Rall wrote. The political category applies precisely to Trump's January 6th efforts to overturn the election. The facts allege that the special counsel's superseding indictment concerned the former president's campaign to have himself deemed the country's re-elected president by hook or crook. It was all quintessentially political because the goal of the activity was to be declared the winner of an election. Judge Chutkin now, like the Supreme Court in the census case, need not be naive. While the court's near-blanket immunity for presidents was improvidently granted,

Starting point is 00:13:45 Jack Smith's indictment concerns entirely political conduct. It should easily pass muster under the narrow legal accountability the court preserved for presidents, Raul said. When a Chuckkin decision against Trump is ultimately appealed to the court, one hopes the justices may avail themselves of the opportunity to rein in immunity and assure a sterner dose of constitutional checks and balances to the most powerful person in the world, the U.S. president. All right, that is it for what the right is saying, which brings us to what the left is saying. The left mostly views the new filing as further proof of Trump's election interference. Some push back on the right's claim that the indictment is a political maneuver.

Starting point is 00:14:32 Others say the timing of the filing's release is inappropriate. The Washington Post editorial board said, Jack Smith has dubious timing, but a good case. The curious timing is yet another reminder that little about this case has been typical. The charges, the defendant, the stakes for the country. Mr. Trump is unique among defendants in that he could soon have the power to end his own prosecution by winning the White House and ordering the Justice Department to terminate it, the board wrote. True, Judge Chutkin had asked both Mr. Smith and Mr. Trump to submit arguments about the case's future

Starting point is 00:15:03 in light of the Supreme Court's ruling. Yet Mr. Smith's action also ensured Americans have more case materials available to them shortly before they vote, a questionable call for a prosecutor to make, even considering the case's unusual character. The record is more appalling than ever, but because of the Supreme Court's ruling, Mr. Smith must argue that Mr. Trump took his actions on or around January 6th in his personal capacity as a citizen and a candidate, not in his public capacity as president. The new brief suggests Mr. Smith can do so, the board said. Voters will have to confront the unpleasant yet undeniable truths about Mr. Trump's record and character, revealed once again in black and white. In MSNBC, Hayes Brown suggested Jack Smith's immunity filing is no Comey letter. In October 2016, FBI Director James Comey threw a political

Starting point is 00:15:53 bombshell into the presidential election. When confronted with his own wrongdoing, Trump instinctively attempts to claim that he is the victim of an identical transgression. But it's still worth unpacking the ways Smith's 167-page filing differs from Comey's one-page missive and the wildly different circumstances surrounding the two, Brown wrote. Comey's letter was, at best, meant to protect him from scrutiny. He previously testified that an investigation into Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server while she was Secretary of State had been closed. Smith, whose filing is in part an ongoing criminal case that is making its way to trial, had no control over the timing

Starting point is 00:16:30 of his decision to make his document public. That was Chutkin's choice, and the judges made it clear that the election is of little concern to her as she attempts to get the case back on track after months of delay, Brown said. Finally, we must all keep in mind that the timing of this is as we're only this close to election day because of Trump's motions that delay things. If Smith had his druthers, he'd have presented this case to a jury more than six months ago. In New York Magazine, Eli Honig called the filing an October cheap shot. Judge Tanya Chutkin, who suddenly claims not to care about the impending election despite her earlier efforts to expedite the case to get it in before the very same election, which got her reversed and chastised by the Supreme Court,

Starting point is 00:17:11 duly complied with Smith's wishes, Honig wrote. There are two headlines here. The immediate takeaway lies in the revelations contained in Smith's oversized brief. The larger, if less obvious, headline is that Smith has essentially abandoned any pretense. He'll bend any rule, switch up on any practice, so long as he gets to chip away at Trump's electoral prospects. The way motions work, under the federal rules and consistent with common sense, is that the prosecutor files an indictment, the defense makes motions.

Starting point is 00:17:39 Not here. Not when there's an election right around the corner and dwindling opportunity to make a dent. So Smith turned the well-established, thoroughly uncontroversial rules of criminal procedure on their head and asked Judge Chutkin for permission to file first, Honig said. It's ironic. Smith has complained throughout the case that Trump's words might taint the jury pool. Smith now uses grand jury testimony, which ordinarily remains secret at this stage, and drafts up a tidy 165-page document

Starting point is 00:18:05 that contains all manner of damaging statements about a criminal defendant. All right, let's head over to Isaac for his take. All right, that is it for it with the left and the right are saying, which brings us to my take. So the last thing that you're going to find me doing is defending Donald Trump for his attempts to overturn the 2020 election and his actions on January 6th. In my eyes, despite all the good and bad from his presidency, those actions will always mark Trump with a scarlet letter in the history books. Even worse, he has convinced two-thirds of Republicans that the election was stolen too, and some of those people are my readers and supporters whom I'm constantly trying to convince are being misled. The election was not stolen, it was not rigged, it was not fundamentally unfair, and all the claims of election fraud that I've investigated have turned out to be total bunk. And yes, that includes Dinesh D'Souza's cash grab at 2,000 mules,

Starting point is 00:19:12 which we did a very deep dive on a couple years ago. Worse still, Trump is once again preemptively claiming this year's election is being stolen or is otherwise fraudulent. I think we can and should expect him to refuse to concede if he loses again, which is a mind-boggling and infuriating prospect that will only further divide the country. I've also made it clear that I think the Supreme Court erred in ruling that presidents have criminal immunity for all official acts, and I, along with a majority of Americans, would have liked to see this case go to trial, so he could have gotten more information about what Trump did and didn't do, as well as a definitive ruling on the legality of his actions.

Starting point is 00:19:51 All that said, it is also imperative to call out the dishonorable nature of what Jack Smith, the special counsel, is doing right now. In 2016, many political and legal pundits rightly called out FBI Director James Comey for inserting himself into the election with an unusual announcement that an investigation into Hillary Clinton had been reopened, only to attempt to clear her of criminal wrongdoing days later. Some forecasters still believe Comey's actions cost Clinton the election, and the story exemplified every political party's dreaded October surprise. Now, Smith is trying to foist his own October surprise onto the country. I'm going to quote heavily from Eli Honig here, cited under what the left is saying, because he's a former federal

Starting point is 00:20:36 prosecutor who made a name for himself as a pundit regularly excoriating Trump's former Attorney General Bill Barr. He wrote a whole book arguing that Barr abused his power. Although we quoted Honig above, I want to give him more space here because it is important for people with liberal biases to hear this from a well-credentialed pundit on the left. The larger, if less obvious, headline is that Smith has essentially abandoned any pretense. He'll bend any rule, switch up on any practice, so long as he gets to chip away at Trump's electoral prospects. At this point, there's simply no defending Smith's conduct on any sort of principled or institutional basis. But we need to know this stuff before we

Starting point is 00:21:16 vote is a nice bumper sticker, but it's neither a response to nor an excuse for Smith's unprincipled, norm-breaking practice. It also overlooks the fact that the Justice Department bears responsibility for taking two and a half years to indict in the first place. End quote. This is a damning passage in Honig's entire piece where he lays out how unusual and unethical what Smith has done is worth reading. And I think it's all exactly right. Smith is now walking proof of the worst suspicions conservative voters have about Biden's Justice Department and Judge Chutkan, who allowed Smith to file a 180-page public brief almost four times longer than the normal maximum

Starting point is 00:21:56 and has damaged her own reputation in the name of landing a few punches weeks before an election. She appears to be the liberal version of Judge Eileen Cannon, the Trump-appointed judge overseeing his classified documents case in Florida. The entire affair is a troubling portrait of Smith and Chutkin, two people with immense power who are playing pure political games. Of course, all of this is made worse by the fact that Smith's and Chutkin's actions are distracting from what should be the story, which is Trump's behavior in the wake of the 2020 election. His disregard for the safety of his vice president, his plans to claim he won on the night of the election before the race had been called, his clear understanding that legal advisors like Sidney Powell were pushing crazy conspiracies, the fact his advisors knew he was spreading nonsense but tried to publicly defend it anyway,

Starting point is 00:22:43 Advisors knew he was spreading nonsense but tried to publicly defend it anyway. This is all worth rehashing, even four years later. A former president attempted to use his power and office to pressure state and federal politicians to keep him in office after he lost an election. Plenty of people on the left will note that we're only getting these details through this unusual brief instead of through trial proceedings because the Supreme Court threw this case back to Chutkin by granting Trump partial immunity. However, whether you like it or not, that's how the court ruled. If Smith wanted to mitigate that risk, he could have brought these charges three years ago. With this filing, Smith has reminded us that Trump is not the only one whose character is in question

Starting point is 00:23:19 here. Smith and the DOJ have made enough mistakes that they are now stooping to the very thing they have promised over and over to avoid, which is old-fashioned politicking. The special counsel wants his filing to be the final thing we remember about Trump before Election Day, but it could also be the final thing we remember about how he handled one of the most sensitive cases in U.S. history, and it does not reflect well on his record. not reflect well on his record. We'll be right back after this quick break. Colombia, we believe that they can. Dr. Johanna Sam and her team are researching how both Indigenous and non-Indigenous youth cope with cyber aggression, working to bridge the diversity gap in child psychology research. At UBC, our researchers are answering today's most pressing questions. To learn how we're moving the world forward, visit ubc.ca forward happens here. Whether renting, renewing a mortgage, or considering buying a home, everybody has housing costs on their minds.

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Starting point is 00:24:55 history, and what it feels like to be in the spotlight. Interior Chinatown is streaming November 19th, only on Disney+. All right, that is it for my take, which brings us to your questions answered. This one's from Andrew in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Andrew says, your editorial about misinformation being spread during the Helene disaster proves that you are no neutral party or moderate

Starting point is 00:25:24 that you always claim to be. You insult conservatives and conservative publications while praising the current administration and incompetent FEMA for doing a good job, which is untrue, of course. Plus, you also allowed a ridiculous claim about climate change being involved in this mess to be perpetuated. How do you respond to this, and are you honest enough to admit that you're no moderate or neutral party? That was from Andrew in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. So listen, thanks for the question. I mean, since our edition on the hurricane disaster relief came out, I've been getting a version of this a lot, either through social media replies, direct emails, or our question form. So I appreciate the direct challenge and for giving me the opportunity to talk about my perspective a little bit more. First of all, I don't

Starting point is 00:26:10 play for a team in politics, and my whole role in the media ecosystem is to thoroughly read up on one topic a day, present all the best arguments I can find, and then let you know what I think just as one more voice. Sometimes that means I see merits in both sides, like today. Sometimes I think they're both getting it wrong, like on the no tax on tips policy. And other times I'm strongly opinionated about an issue, like the Hurricane Helene response. I'm not promising to be neutral or opinionated. I'm promising to be transparent and honest about my opinions as a political moderate. I get accused of being left or right literally every single day, almost always by people accusing me of being the opposite of

Starting point is 00:26:49 whatever they are. Second, I don't think it's fair or accurate to say I was insulting conservatives and praising the current administration. I pointed out that there were conservative pundits who were spreading misinformation and lies, and I think I made that case pretty well. I told you exactly what they were saying, and then I told you exactly how I knew they were wrong. If any of my criticisms were unfair or inaccurate, I'm still waiting for a single person to tell me that. But if you want to jump to their defense just because they're conservatives, maybe that doesn't say a whole lot about me. Interestingly, and I really can't emphasize this enough, the overwhelming response I got from readers in North Carolina was thank you. Don't their voices matter more than online pundits? And what about local North Carolina Republicans who are pleading with people to stop spreading

Starting point is 00:27:36 lies? How does my writing insult those conservatives? Third, I actually didn't mention anything about climate change in my take, so this is just wrong. We included that from left-leaning authors, but that's part of what we do every day. That being said, it is certainly not a ridiculous thing to say. Warming oceans and coastal erosion can create more destructive storms. This isn't something that is really up for dispute, and if you want to read more about climate change, we wrote a big piece explaining the theory in a past edition that I'll link to in today's episode description. Finally, and as I wrote, I'm not passing judgment on FEMA yet. My point was that FEMA was getting criticized before they even had a chance to respond, especially considering local and state agencies are always

Starting point is 00:28:19 first on the scene in disasters. I'm all but certain FEMA could have done better, and we'll learn details about the federal response over time, but it's worth noting southern state governors, including yours, are saying they've gotten everything they asked for from the Biden administration. There are a lot of people in North Carolina still without food and water or help, and I've heard from friends in Asheville who are very upset with the relief response. I'm not denying that. My frustration was with preemptive claims that the federal government wasn't doing anything or didn't care if Republicans died, because that is simply nonsense. All right, that is it for your questions answered.

Starting point is 00:28:57 I'm going to send it back to John for the rest of the pod, and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Have a good one. Thanks, Isaac. Here's your under the radar story for today, folks. Victor Bout, the convicted Russian arms dealer who was returned to Russia in a 2022 prisoner swap for American basketball player Brittany Grinner, is back in the weapons trade, according to a report from the Wall Street Journal. Since returning to Russia, Bout has joined a pro Kremlin far-right party and won a seat at a local assembly. Then, in August, he reportedly met with members of Yemen's Iran-backed Houthi militant group

Starting point is 00:29:32 to broker the sale of $10 million worth of automatic weapons. Bout denies that he helped facilitate the deal, but a European security official and other knowledgeable sources told the Journal that Bout met with two Houthi emissaries in Moscow and arranged at least two shipments of AK-74 rifles to the U.S.-designated terrorist group. The Wall Street Journal has this story, and there's a link in today's episode description. All right, next up is our numbers section. The number of days since Special Counsel Jack Smith's original indictment of former

Starting point is 00:30:06 President Donald Trump in the 2020 election interference case is 434. The number of days until the election is 27. The number of times the word private appears in Smith's revised indictment is 18. The number of times the word official appears in Smith's revised indictment is 59. The percentage of Americans who say they are confident that the votes for president will be accurately cast and counted in this year's election is 57%, according to a September 2024 Gallup poll. The percentage of Americans who said they were confident that the votes for president

Starting point is 00:30:38 would be accurately cast and counted ahead of the 2016 election was 66%. The percentage of Democrats who say they are confident that the votes for president will be accurately cast and counted in the 2024 election is 84%. And the percentage of Republicans who say they are confident that the votes for president will be accurately cast and counted in the 2024 election is 28%. All right, and last but not least, our Have a Nice Day story. All right, and last but not least, our have a nice day story. Levi, a student at Englehart Elementary School in Kentucky,

Starting point is 00:31:12 usually has a big smile on his face when he gets on the school bus each morning. But one morning, as he sat on the ground with a jacket on his head, his bright demeanor was dimmed. Larry Farsh Jr., Levi's bus driver, learned that it was pajama day at school, but Levi didn't have pajamas to wear. After finishing his route, Farsh Jr. purchased pajamas for Levi and brought them to the school. When he got me the pajamas, I did a happy cry, Levi said. Today has this story, and there's a link in today's episode description.

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