Tangle - Kennedy and Trump claim that Tylenol is linked to autism, ADHD.

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

On Monday, President Donald Trump, Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and other Trump administration officials announced a pair of actions the Foo...d and Drug Administration (FDA) will take to address the increase in autism spectrum disorder (ASD) in children. First, the FDA will update the warning labels for acetaminophen — the active ingredient in pain relievers like Tylenol — to note a potential association between the ingredient and neurological conditions — such as ASD and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) — in children (though it also emphasized that no causal link has been established). Second, the agency has initiated the approval of leucovorin calcium tablets for patients with cerebral folate deficiency (CFD). Ad-free podcasts are here!To listen to this podcast ad-free, and to enjoy our subscriber only premium content, go to ReadTangle.com to sign up!You can read today's podcast⁠ ⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠, our “Under the Radar” story ⁠here and today’s “Have a nice day” story ⁠here⁠.You can subscribe to Tangle by clicking here or drop something in our tip jar by clicking here. Take the survey: What do you think about the HHS announcement, autism, and Tylenol? Let us know.Disagree? That's okay. My opinion is just one of many. Write in and let us know why, and we'll consider publishing your feedback.Our Executive Editor and Founder is Isaac Saul. Our Executive Producer is Jon Lall.This podcast was written by Ari Weitzman and edited and engineered by Dewey Thomas. Music for the podcast was produced by Diet 75.Our newsletter is edited by Managing Editor Ari Weitzman, Senior Editor Will Kaback, Lindsey Knuth, Kendall White, Bailey Saul, and Audrey Moorehead. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 Tangle. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening, and welcome to the Tangle podcast. I'm your host for today, Tangle Managing Editor Ari Whiteman. I'm filling in for our executive editor, Isaac Saul. It is Wednesday, September 24th, and we are covering President Trump and RFK Junior's press conference on Tynol and its link with autism and ADHD. I'm going to send it over to John for today's main topic, and then you're going to spend a lot of time with me today. I'll be back for my take, which I wrote, and for your questions answered.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Thanks, Ari, and welcome, everybody. Here are your quick hits for today. First up, in a speech to the United Nations General Assembly, President Donald Trump criticized the organization and its European member states for their handling of immigration issues and international conflicts, saying the UN was failing to live up to its potential and creating new problems for America. Separately, Trump met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at an event, after which he said he believes Ukraine can win back all territory lost to Russia with support from the European Union.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Number two, a Florida federal jury convicted a man of attempting to assassinate President Trump in September of 2024, finding him guilty on five criminal counts. The man reportedly tried to stab himself in the neck with a pen as the verdict was read. He faces a potential life sentence in prison. Number three, Adelita Grihalva, a county supervisor, won the special election in Arizona's 7th Congressional District to fill the seat previously held by her father, Representative Raul Griehalva, who died in office in March. Grihalva's victory narrows Republicans' house majority to 219 to 2.14.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Number four, Jimmy Kimmel returned to his late-night comedy show, telling his audience that he had not intended to suggest that the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination, was a Trump supporter. Kimmel also criticized the president for purportedly trying to silence him and thanked several conservatives for defending him. At number five, President Trump signed an executive order designating the anti-fascist movement Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, giving federal agencies a mandate to investigate the group and its members. President Trump issuing a strong warning to pregnant women. Taking Tylenol is not good.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Suggesting without evidence, the number of children born with autism would decrease if expectant moms stopped using acetaminopin. On Monday, President Donald Trump, Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and other Trump administration officials, announced a pair of actions the Food and Drug Administration will take to address the increase in autism spectrum disorder in children. First, the FDA will update the warning labels of acetaminophen, the active ingredient in pain relievers like Tylenol, to note a potential association between the ingredient and neurological conditions such as ASD and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder in children, though it also emphasized that no causal link has been established. Second, the agency has initiated the approval of leucorverin calcium tablets for patients with cerebral foliate deficiency.
Starting point is 00:04:58 As the FDA noted in its announcement, acetaminephin is the only over-the-counter drug approved for use to treat fevers during pregnancy, which can pose a risk to fetuses. While some studies have found an association between acetaminopin during pregnancy and a subsequent ASD diagnosis, a causal link has not been proven. Separately, leukovarin is a modified version of vitamin B-9 that helps the body make red blood cells and support cell growth. it is especially vital in early pregnancy. Small studies have suggested that a significant percentage of people with autism
Starting point is 00:05:31 have antibodies that interfere with how folate is transported within the body. In a press release, HHS noted the conflicting literature and lack of clear causal evidence on the causes of ASD, but said these actions were intended to encourage clinicians to exercise their best judgment in use of acetaminopin for fevers and pain in pregnancy by prescribing the lowest effective dose for the shortest duration when treatment is required. President Trump was more direct in his remarks saying, Don't take Tylenol, don't take it, fight like hell not to take it, and encouraging pregnant women to tough it out except in extreme circumstances.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Although the FDA announcements did not mention vaccines, Trump also warned against giving children too many vaccines at once, saying, don't let them pump your baby with the largest pile of stuff you've ever seen in your life. Many medical researchers and physicians criticize the announcement and Trump's comments. It is clear the Tylenol-autism link is not a new question. It has been looked at many times and in many different studies, autism researcher Dr. Diana Shendell said. Without showing any evidence to back them up, the announcements become reckless and potentially harmful. A co-author of a report on Tylenol and autism, cited by the Trump administration,
Starting point is 00:06:45 also said she still considers acetaminopin an option for pregnant women with medical guidance. guidance and supervision. Separately, other doctors suggested they would not recommend Lukovrin to treat ASD until the results of large, randomized trials were available. Today, we'll share arguments from the right and left on the FDA's announcements and President Trump's comments. Then, managing editor Ari Weitzman will give his take. We'll be right back after this quick break. Too many students are packed into overcrowded classrooms in Ontario schools, and it's hurting their ability to learn.
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Starting point is 00:08:35 The right is mixed on the announcement, but many say the Trump administration is pursuing. answers to many parents' questions. Some cast doubt on the veracity of studies linking acetaminophen to autism. Others say the FDA is giving parents' options, not taking them away. In Red's Day, Eli Shepard criticized experts panic at questions they don't want asked. I'm not here to prove or disprove whether prenatal Tylenol use could contribute to autism. That's not the point. The point is the reflexive, knee-jerk hostility toward even asking the question. When did science become less about discovery and more about protecting reputation, Shepard wrote. Medical history is one long cautionary tale of settled science gone wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Doctors once told women that smoking during pregnancy was safe. They prescribed thalidomide to expectant mothers, only to discover later that it caused birth defects. The arrogance is the problem. Too many in medicine and public health are more worried about being right than being honest. They confuse protecting their brand with protecting people. And when you put brand management over patient safety, you stop being. scientists and start being bureaucrat, Shepard said.
Starting point is 00:09:42 If future studies confirm there is no link between Tylenol and autism, great, parents deserve to know that too, but why the sheer panic at the possibility? Why the immediate press campaigns? Why the defensive posturing designed to shut down the conversation before it starts? In unheard, Kremi Uriya argued RFK's autism report twists correlation into causation. The HHS's rationale for the new Tylenol warning is based on a systemic review led by Harvard Dean of Public Health, Andrea Bacarelli. Dr. Bacarelli's review contends that there is a strong consistent association between prenatal acetaminopin exposure
Starting point is 00:10:20 and ADHD, ASD, and other NDDSs. The review emphasized that this result was exceptionally robust, that it stood strong in studies controlling for bundles of different confounders, with negative control exposure periods, and with propensity score matching, Ruchai wrote. The only problem is that none of these methods are reliable, and the authors actually ignored some good evidence that contradicts their conclusion. The main failing point of the review is that its authors knew about good evidence in the form of sibling control studies, studies where scientists compare a sibling who is exposed to Tylenol in utero to a sibling who wasn't exposed to it, and they ignored these results. But those studies were the strongest. It just happens to be the case that those studies
Starting point is 00:11:03 didn't find anything alarming, Krukai has said. To me, that seems like the correct explanation for why the authors were so gung-ho to attack them on spurious grounds. In Politico, Dr. J. Badacharya, Dr. Marni McCary, and Dr. Mehmet Oz described the Trump administration's new steps to tackle autism. While the pathophysiology of autism is still being understood, one potential area of interest is the folate transportation system in the central nervous system. A relatively inexpensive, generic prescription drug called lucovarin can help some children to heal by bypassing the transportation blockage. peer-reviewed publications and randomized clinical trials have documented that up to 60% of folate-deficient children with ASD can have improved verbal communication if given Lukeover, and the authors wrote.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Americans are tired of waiting, so we are cutting regulatory red tape to enable families to pursue treatment now as directed by their physician. Observational evidence has suggested that when moms take acetymenifin during pregnancy, especially close to delivery, it is correlated with subsequent diagnosis. of conditions like autism and ADHD in their children, the authors said. At the same time, we also recognize the literature continues to evolve and evidence from family control studies have failed to find a correlation. What should parents do? In light of this evidence and lack of clear alternatives, we believe acetaminopin should be used judiciously in pregnancy and under medical supervision of an obstetrician as a practical, prudent medical approach that balances risks and benefits. All right, that is it for what the right is saying, which brings us to what the
Starting point is 00:12:50 left is saying. The left is critical of the announcement and calls Trump's and Kennedy's remarks meritless and dangerous. Some say the policy changes will create more suffering for pregnant women. Others question the administration's framing of autism as a crisis. The Washington Post editorial board said, this shoddy autism science helps no one. The Much-Bally Hood News Conference made clear that the administration intends to march headlong into its anti-vaccine delusions. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced that his department will investigate vaccines as potential causes of autism, promising no areas of taboo, even though realms of studies have already relentlessly debunked the association, the board wrote. The administration's
Starting point is 00:13:34 claims about acetaminophen are weak too. Though studies have found an association between prenatal use of the drug and autism, that link disappears when scientists account for other factors. At best, Trump's rant on Monday merely undermines the government's credibility. Many Americans understand autism's complexity and will find the administration's pronouncement to be further evidence of its untrustworthiness. At worst, it could do serious damage. The president's comments about vaccines are likely to turn more people against immunization,
Starting point is 00:14:04 making society more vulnerable to disease outbreaks, the board said. The acetaminophen finding might also scare women away from treating their own pain based on flimsy data while discouraging more plausible areas of study. In The Guardian, Moira Donigan suggested Trump's claims will heighten the suffering of pregnant women in the U.S. Pregnant women do not lack for judgmental, frightening, and dubiously factual instructions about their health. Everywhere, they are told that they risk the health of their fetus. by partaking in a series of banal everyday activities, be it jogging or having coffee or eating a certain cheese,
Starting point is 00:14:41 that they are told will lead by obscure mechanisms that are never quite explained to impossible and devastating health outcomes for their children to be, Donigan wrote. Now this cynical exploitation of pregnant women's fears deployed to them at a time when they are most vulnerable is coming from no less a place of authority than the White House itself.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Trump advised pregnant women to simply endure their suffering. A mother will have to tough it out, he told them. Readers will forgive me if I posit that perhaps pregnant women in the U.S. are already suffering enough, Donagin said. But pregnant women are not a punchline. Their hopes for their families, their fears for their bodies, their health, their comfort, their dignity. All of these are things Trump is willing to sacrifice at the altar of his own ego. In the New York Times, Maya Zalovitz wrote about what the government autism announcement got so wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Experts disagree on the causes of that increase in autism rates, but for President Trump and Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., it's a clear sign that autism has become a crisis that must be eradicated, Salavitt said. The Trump administration seems to see autistic people as a burden on society that should be eliminated, not as citizens who are valuable. Mr. Kennedy has said that autism destroys families and called it cataclysmic during the press conference. But there is much more to autism than this bleak view suggests. Like many brain differences, autism isn't just an affliction. As many autistic people do, I tend to seek escape in systems, which are more predictable to us than people. I sometimes think we can fall in love with them the way that you would
Starting point is 00:16:16 with another person. Science, of course, is the system to understand all systems, and so to see it under attack in the name of fixing us, of all things, is brutal, Zalovitz wrote. Moreover, autistic folks tend to love stability and routine and struggle mightily with chaos. To see the nation's scientific agencies following Mr. Kennedy's lead and promoting pseudoscience is shattering. All right, let's head over to Ari for his take. Monday's joint press conference with Trump and Kennedy was just the last stage of a game of telephone that started with a few papers suggesting
Starting point is 00:17:02 a causal link between acetamapin and neurologic disorders, and that ended with President Trump saying, don't take Tylenol to pregnant women. So let's follow that chain from the start. In 2017, a few studies drew media attention to the claim that taking acetamapin or Tylenol during pregnancy increased the risk for autism or ADHD and babies. In its recent press release, the FDA cited two other studies from 2019 and 2020, further proof of this link. However, larger and more robust studies contradict their core findings. In particular, a study released this month, September 2025, examined over 200,000 children, and also set up controls for siblings, and that study found no causal link between
Starting point is 00:17:46 acetaminophen and autism. Also, in 2024, a study published in the journal of the American Medical Association, or JAMA, showed a moderate, increased relative risk of ASD, or autism spectrum, disorder and ADHD from taking acetamine. However, those increased relative risks are very small, from 1.33% risk of autism to 1.53% and even smaller for other neurological developmental disorders. The authors attributed the increased risk to correlate with not the drug itself, but with the symptoms of developmental disorders pregnant women were taking Tylenol to treat, like headaches and fevers. The study concluded bluntly that acinamenefin use during pregnancy was not associated with children's risk of autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability. All of this begs the question,
Starting point is 00:18:40 why would the FDA ignore those findings and cherry-pick their chosen studies? Why not highlight other more elevated relative risk factors for autism and ADHD like smoking during pregnancy or advanced paternal age or air pollution? Why make such a sweeping proclamation at all? So I'm just speculating here, but maybe Secretary Kennedy, who was shown a tendency to blame at Big Pharma for all of society's ills, felt somewhat predisposed to find a causal link with Tylenol, since Tylenol causes autism has become a recent companion to the vaccines cause autism mantra, and many of his friends in law happen to be suing Tylenol in court right now. Perhaps, and perhaps after he promised in April to find a cause of autism by this September,
Starting point is 00:19:26 he felt pressured to latch on to a recent Harvard study showing a tenuous link between autism and Tylenol before this self-imposed deadline. Even though that study's author said further study was needed, maybe. I'm just noticing trends here. But no matter his motivation, Kennedy announced this link with President Trump,
Starting point is 00:19:46 who decided to blast the message that autism, quote, may be entirely preventable and use his megaphone to advise pregnant women not to take Tylenol full stop. Members of the White House are reportedly concerned and frustrated that President Trump's comments went too far, and he certainly seemed to leave prudence behind when making his remarks. Let's remember, acinamenefin is the only pain relief option the FDA has approved to treat a range of ailments during pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And if women can't take Tylenol for a fever or for pain, their alternatives, like ibuprofen or just nothing at all, could result in very serious and immediate harm. So for the president of the United States to say, don't take Tylenov, he better have a serious, compelling, and definitive body of scientific evidence behind him. He does not. Not everyone has the time or expertise to parse through scientific studies. So we need reliable direction from people in positions of authority. On one hand, we have the president, who is not a scientist and could not pronounce the name
Starting point is 00:20:47 of the drug he told pregnant women not to take. On the other hand, our non-governmental health groups, which are staffed and run by scientists. Every one of those organizations that I've seen make a statement in the last 48 hours has said that Tylenol is safe to take during pregnancy. I'm certainly not suggesting that you blindly, quote, trust the experts, but I know which argument to me seems more convincing. Science is complicated, it's nuanced, and it's ever evolving. But blasting a dictum based on marginal findings will only deliver division
Starting point is 00:21:19 and confusion. And that division regarding autism isn't new. If you go to Google and you search autism rates increasing, your first hit, probably like mine, is an article from Johns Hopkins that says profound autism has not increased over the past 10 years. If you're someone with a child who has profound autism and you struggle to find support for that child and you worry about what will happen to your child if you die, you will probably leave that article with some cognitive dissonance. So you go back and you look at the search results and you see the number two hit, which is from an April 2025 press release from Health and Human Services that says, quote, autism epidemic runs rampant. So your options are either A, it's not a problem, or B, don't take Tylenol or vaccines. As has become common with Kennedy, he's identified a real issue here.
Starting point is 00:22:12 The increase in autism rates is real and it is a problem. I know that many people disagree, and I'm aware of the several rebuttals to this stance, but I don't think they're convincing, and I can explain why. Most people will say that the increased incidence of autism, including profound autism, is 100% attributable to increases in diagnostic standards. Very few people will dispute the CDC's finding that one out of every 31 children in the United States, aged 3 to 17, is currently diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder. nor is there much disagreement that this incident rate has been on the rise, up from one out of
Starting point is 00:22:52 36 in 2020, one out of 68 in 2010, and one out of 150 in 2000. But what many will say is that these figures don't represent an epidemic. They represent only a change in how we detect ASD. And this stance is fairly mainstream. Epidemiologist Suzanne or Sond, Sullivan recently appeared on Derek Thompson's plain English podcast to explain how we're living in an age of diagnosis that affects not just autism, but ADHD, PTSD, and a host of other psychiatric disorders. In that episode, O'Sullivan claimed explicitly that, quote, all of the diagnostic inflation of autism happens at the mild end of the spectrum, end quote, and that there is no evidence that cases of severe autism have increased. But there is evidence of this.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Here's some of that evidence. Social Security insurance support for people with ASD, which is reserved for the most profoundly impacted. Those are the cases with severe verbal deficits who require routine assistance has increased by over 300% from 2005 to 2015. Enrollments in special education programs have exploded in California, Massachusetts, and Minnesota, where researchers said diagnostic methods do not, quote, largely explain the increasing trends. Researchers who have explicitly studied whether autism has increased over time have concluded that it has, and they have said that the increase cannot be attributed to diagnostics alone. Lastly, a 2023 public health report study found that incidents of both non-profound
Starting point is 00:24:28 and profound autism have increased from 2000 to 2016, from 3.9 to 14.3 non-profound cases, and from 2.7 to 4.6 profound cases in every 1,000 people. The evidence is not just real. It's convincing. These numbers provide good reason for Kennedy to direct a $500 million initiative to fund studies investigating this increase in the prevalence of autism, with a few caveats. First, none of this research should be directed towards exploring a causal link between autism and childhood vaccination. Kennedy in the past has claimed that there could be or even is a link between autism and vaccinating children, which is arguably the one thing we can most confidently say does not cause autism, nor should discussing the existence of an autism
Starting point is 00:25:20 epidemic in and of itself imply that those with ASD are lesser people or that we should try to prevent people with that diagnosis from being born at all. Unlike the majority of ASD diagnoses, the autism cases that Kennedy is focused on are most commonly referred to as level three autism or profound autism. That's a term that was defined by the medical journal the Lancet in 2021 to describe people, quote, who are unable to advocate for themselves and are likely to need 24-hour support throughout their lives. Simply put, there is a chasm between the mainstream, there is actually not a problem stance, and the actual data here. And now Secretary Kennedy is filling that void with absolute junk. Obviously, Kennedy
Starting point is 00:26:06 deserves ample criticism for supplying all the junk. But our inability to agree on the basic facts is providing the chasm. And if that chasm widens, more drug will follow. We'll be right back after this quick break. Too many students are packed into overcrowded classrooms in Ontario schools, and it's hurting their ability to learn. But instead of helping our kids,
Starting point is 00:26:39 the Ford government is playing politics, taking over school boards and silencing local voices. It shouldn't be this way. Tell the Ford government to get serious about tackling over crowded classrooms because smaller classes would make a big difference for our kids. Go to Building Better Schools.ca. A message from the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. Not a billionaire, not a problem.
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Starting point is 00:27:32 So we're going to head over to your questions answered. Today's question comes from Margaret from Winchester, Virginia, who asks, Are you all going to look into the two hangings in the south? Yes, we are. So first, some context. Last Monday, two men were found dead hours apart in Mississippi. 21-year-old college student, DeMarctrievon, Trey Reed, was discovered hanging from a tree on the campus of Delta State University in Cleveland, Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And Corey Zichitis, 36, was found in the same manner near a casino in Vicksburg, Mississippi. The similarity in time, location, and method of the deaths immediately sparked questions. about whether they could be connected in some way. We still don't have much information on Tacitus, besides that he was described as homeless by the county coroner and that an autopsy has yet to be completed. The day after he died, images spread in news reports and on social media incorrectly identifying Tacitus,
Starting point is 00:28:28 a white man, as Gavin Fortenberry, a black 17-year-old killed by gun violence in August. Reed, who was a black student at DSU, a campus roughly 50 miles from the site of Emmett. Hills, 1955 lynching. A preliminary investigation conducted by the Boulevard County Coroner's office ruled Reed's death, a suicide. And the formal autopsy conducted days later confirmed these findings. However, the NAACP raised doubts over the coroner's suicide determination, and Reed's parents have also expressed suspicion about their son's cause of
Starting point is 00:29:03 of death amid social media posts alleging further injuries on Reed's body, which the police have denied. Reed's family has obtained a civil rights attorney to pursue for their investigation. Meanwhile, Colin Kaepernick's organization, Know Your Rights Camp, has stepped forward to pay for a second autopsy for Reed. With the evidence we have so far, it seems unlikely that the two deaths are connected in any way. But we'll continue to keep an eye on developments as the investigations continue. Thanks, Ari. Here's your under the radar story for today, folks. On Tuesday, the secret Service announced that it had discovered, seized and dismantled a network of electronic devices
Starting point is 00:29:42 located throughout the New York Tri-State area capable of conducting telecommunications attacks ahead of the United Nations General Assembly meeting in New York. Officials said the network included roughly 100,000 SIM cards and 300 servers, and it could anonymously send 30 million text messages per minute. The Secret Service said the network had already been used to threaten senior U.S. government officials. This network had the potential to disable cell phone towers and essentially shut down the cellular network, Matt McCool, the top agent at the Secret Services
Starting point is 00:30:14 New York field office, said. The New York Times has this story, and there's a link in today's episode description. All right, next up is our numbers section. Acetaminophen was first synthesized in 1878. Acetamine was first used to treat pain and fevers in 1893. Tylenol was introduced by McNeil Laboratories
Starting point is 00:30:39 as an aspirin-free pain reliever and fever reducer in 1955. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, approximately 3.2% of 8-year-old children were identified with autism spectrum disorder in 2022. Approximately 1.5% of 8-year-old children were identified with ASD in 2012. Approximately 0.7% of 8-year-old children were identified with ASD in 2020.
Starting point is 00:31:04 According to the CDC, the approximate proportion of boys in the U.S. with autism in 2020 was 4 in 100, and the approximate proportion of girls in the U.S. with autism in 2020 was 1 in 100. And last but not least, our have-nice day story. In June, Autumn Buck got a call from her brother-in-law. A bird's nest had fallen from a tall tree in his yard, killing one small crow and leaving another injured and immobile. Buck and her husband attempted to nurse the injured crow back to health, and they received assistance from an unlikely source, their dog Miko.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Miko stayed close to the crow, chasing cats and other potential predators from the yard. The crow, now named Russell, recovered, and has become close companions with Miko. The two run and fly around together, play fetch, and take naps side by side. The Washington Post has this story, and there's a link in today's episode description. All right, everybody. As always, if you'd like to support our work, please go to reetangle.com, where you can sign up for a newsletter membership, podcast membership, or a bundled membership that gets you a discount on both. We'll be right back here tomorrow. For Isaac and the rest of the crew, this is John Law signing off.
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Starting point is 00:33:30 Tell the Ford government to get serious about tackling overcrowded classrooms, because smaller classes would make a big difference for our kids. Go to Building Better Schools.ca.a. A message from the Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. What's better than a well-marbled ribby sizzling on the barbecue? A well-marbled ribby sizzling on the barbecue that was carefully selected by an Instacart shopper and delivered to your door. A well-marbled ribby you ordered without even leaving the kitty pool. Whatever groceries your summer calls for, Instacart has you covered. Download the Instacart app and enjoy zero-dollar delivery fees on your first three orders.
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